builds-discussion

[full girder]

I’m not going weapons platform

[quiet laurel]

Then max range and a decent amount of duration, can tweak efficiency depending on energy economy

[full girder]

Ok cause gauss was better than i thought

[novel bear]

If you’re nuking with thermal sunder you want neutral strength or higher, makes damage scale faster, especially with roar

[sacred sapphire]

where could i slot this? i dont have the incarnon yet to test out :3

[full girder]

What ability should i subsume off his first?

[fervent rapids]

Gauss doesn't really need any

[full girder]

I’m just saying if I were to put roar on

[novel bear]

If you have arcane aegis, it’s currently bugged with gauss to make him immortal, so you can subsume off his 1 or 2

I like his 1 too much to get rid of it personally

[stiff sapphire]

What are archon shards for kullervo

[ornate cosmos]

5 purple Tau shards for melee crit damage

[midnight horizon]

So, this is my current Argo and vel crit build, was wondering if there's anything I might be missing for it, aside from the best tennokai mod...

[timid plover]

Im told not to share my builds with people then I see this

[midnight horizon]

Isn't this the channel to share builds, though?

[timid plover]

Yes

But im getting told not to shere builds because its bad and can do damage but there are people shere there build?

[midnight horizon]

Bad how? If a build works, it works, and if you wanna share it, you're free to do so

[timid plover]

Thay say if I shere my build there going to nerf it

[midnight horizon]

... I think you're thinking of the wrong devs

[ornate cosmos]

Idk
I think he might be onto something

[midnight horizon]

I mean, I think dante got nerfed because of some issues with other warframes' kits

But other than that... builds should be shared... who knows, you might help out a player without knowing it

[blissful knoll]

Ok so i assume it's a 12x combo heavy build with melee vortex for auto grouping, probably want to run weeping wound over one of the crit damage mods

Or just use a separate magnetic primer

[timid plover]

What about a build that makes me for the most part unstoppable

[midnight horizon]

Yup, I have a hound to do that already

[blissful knoll]

Then drop magnetic for range mod

[midnight horizon]

Ah, that makes sense

[midnight horizon]

Everyone has those types of builds...

[blissful knoll]

Also heavy attack wind up speed where

But then again it's tennokai

So it's probably fine

[midnight horizon]

I might go alamgam organ shatter... but I'm currently at 0 forma, so it might have to wait a bit

[timid plover]

It let's me just sit in 1 spot in a survival mission for hours if I wanted and I'd never die or need to go to a life support caps I literally just afk and let the enames come to me

[blissful knoll]

That's most competent steelpath builds

You only need 100 kills per minute to achieve this

That's pretty standard

[timid plover]

Fr then why is my girlfriend her dad and her dad's friends saying not to sho anymore but them

[blissful knoll]

Did i get baited?

[timid plover]

No

Im literally confused rn

[midnight horizon]

Also, I guess while I'm here... is there any good arcanes for Baruuk's desert wind? Specifically the prime... since I'm getting bored of melee influence

[timid plover]

Im just going to go

[blissful knoll]

Influence is the standard, but you also have the option to do smth like gas afflictions

[midnight horizon]

Gas afflictions? I thought blast would've worked better?

[blissful knoll]

Blast is faster in terms of hard clearing but i like how gas lingers

[midnight horizon]

Ah, I'll have to try that later then

[blissful knoll]

If you're looking for a melee to play with, have you tried ruvox

The status vulnerability allows anything to have a chance to proc status, including dots

Which means with some luck you can cause roar to feedback loop infinitely

[midnight horizon]

I have the ruvox... just haven't built it or got all the evolutions

[midnight horizon]

Oh... I might have to try that

[blissful knoll]

Basically you know how roar works with dots right? The hit gets buffed by roar, procs a dot which gets buffed again by roar. Now imagine if the dot can proc status again over and over and over.

It just feeds into itself until the enemy dies

[midnight horizon]

Sounds fun to use against violence

[blissful knoll]

Violence has a status cap so it'll quickly be capped

[midnight horizon]

Damn...

[blissful knoll]

All the acolytes do

Capped at 4 stacks

[midnight horizon]

Violence is the only acolyte I really have trouble with... since I main baruuk, so him appearing usually turns off my main DR sources... along with knocking me out of my 4 if I don't kill him fast enough

[blissful knoll]

Turn off 4 and click a gun on him

[midnight horizon]

Damn... you right...

[blissful knoll]

A ton of guns can kill acolytes very fast, just make sure you use the right tool for the job

Idr if baruuk can just press F and swap weapons while in desert wind

[midnight horizon]

Yeah

[blissful knoll]

Then you don't even need to turn off desert wind

No need to lose combo

Just swap to gun, kill it, swap back

[midnight horizon]

Guess I'll have to work on my guns... I normally go melee because I enjoy it

[blissful knoll]

I mean you would have a fully stacked dexterity arcane on your gun and you can just set up a non galvanized build to one tap the acolyte

[midnight horizon]

Oh... in that case... kuva chakkhurr it is

[blissful knoll]

I mean an actual single target weapon, not an aoe one

But sure i guess

I was thinking more along the lines of an acuity weapon

You have dexterity fully stacked then just swap and headshot once

Dead acolyte

[midnight horizon]

Any weapon recommendations then? I might try them out if the kuva chakkhurr doesn't work

[blissful knoll]

Snipers would be very funny at this for example

Or other big single click damage weapons too

If you're still struggling to deal damage you can always subsume tharros on your baruuk and armor strip the acolyte

[midnight horizon]

Oh, that's no problem, it's violence that's the only one who gives me any trouble

[blissful knoll]

In that case tbh any fast killing weapon will do

Even something like dread will work

Just as long as it's not reliant on stacking tons of status to kill

[midnight horizon]

So, like a daikyu prime... that would work? I've been wanting to use it for a while

[blissful knoll]

Eh, daikyu will work

[tight mountain]

yo is the kuva bramma worth it

[midnight horizon]

Sorta... it's outclassed by a lot of other weapons nowadays, though

[blissful knoll]

It works but has ammo issues

The damage isn't an issue, it's the ammo

[tight mountain]

ye ik

its like 5 i think

[blissful knoll]

With kuva bramma you're basically forced into running smth like energized munitions

Ammo efficiency becomes so important

[tight mountain]

yea

[blissful knoll]

Otherwise it's just too uncomfortable to use

[tight mountain]

i mean it shoot arrows that explodes

i dont think thats uncomfortable

[blissful knoll]

But yea something like a mirage with energized munitions will still clear rooms very easily

[tight mountain]

how do i level up mr

cuz im stuck at 9 and kuva bramma requires mr 15

[blissful knoll]

Build and level new weapons

Or frames or companions

[midnight horizon]

Disregard that, if you kill the lich... you can still claim the weapon, regardless of mr

[tight mountain]

lich?

whats that

[midnight horizon]

It's only the Coda technocyte where the MR matters

[midnight horizon]

You don't have a kuva lich?

[hard dove]

And tenet melee

[tight mountain]

no i think

[midnight horizon]

Did you do the... god what's the name of that quest with the kuva queens?

[tight mountain]

oh yea

i did that quest

[hard dove]

The war within

[midnight horizon]

Then you can get a kuva lich

[tight mountain]

whats a kuva lich

[midnight horizon]

Thx... my goldfish memory is plaguing me today

[midnight horizon]

A sort of advesary you create... you'll know when you see a strange red icon in a any grineer mission with level 20+ enemies

[tight mountain]

kk

[midnight horizon]

Though I wouldn't worry about them for now, unless you really want to open the can of worms that is lich hunting

[tight mountain]

ight

yo i got a build for broken war but it does low damage

[midnight horizon]

Can we see it?

[tight mountain]

what should i change

[midnight horizon]

Hm... maybe add viral instead of corrosive... that'll help boost the damage

[hard dove]

Umbra forma 😭

[tight mountain]

yea man i did that like 2 years ago when i didnt know nothing abt the game😭

[hard dove]

Don't need sac steel and bloodrush at the same time just use bloodrush
Same with pp and CO just use CO

Also there's no status slot weeping wound somewhere in there

Add attack speed as well

[tight mountain]

why? pressure point ads damage and still ads base critical chance

[hard dove]

You don't need 2 mods that does the same thing

Especially when one is vastly inferior

[tight mountain]

is it because of diminishing returns?

[hard dove]

Yes

Also it doesn't add base cc that would be too busted

[tight mountain]

u mean sacr steel?

[hard dove]

Yes

It's additive to base cc but it doesn't actually add the base cc

[tight mountain]

ohh ok

any arcanes?

[hard dove]

Are you anywhere close to or unlocked cavia already

[tight mountain]

ohh the thing from the entrati quest

yea

[hard dove]

Then farm melee influence

And change the build to CRABSWEAT

[tight mountain]

crabsweat?

[hard dove]

(C)ondition Overload
(R)ange (don't use normal reach tho)
(A)ttack speed
(B)loodrush
Galv (S)teel
(W)eeping wounds
(E)lectric
(A)nti faction or just flex
(T) tennokai

The tennokai part is not as important as the others as it's quite the lenghty farm

[tight mountain]

ohh okok

thx

is galv steel a multiplicative mod

?

[hard dove]

To base cc? Yes

[tight mountain]

oh kk

[ornate cosmos]

I hate how peak this is

Though tennokai can be switched to galv reflex in some builds

[hard dove]

RIP COWBARF you'll always have a place in ny heart

[tight mountain]

what cowbarf

[ornate cosmos]

I suppose incarnon melees benefit the most out of it, especially without naramon

[fervent rapids]

Name of old build

[hard dove]

Same thing but for a meta long long ago
Back when slash is the dominant status effect

[hard dove]

Honestly as someone who doesn't have discipline merit yet I'm wondering how good the other tennokai actually is

[ornate cosmos]

I think I hit the efervon tank with Valkyr with 5 tennokai heavies in the span of 3 seconds without discipline's merit

[tight mountain]

how many years ago

[hard dove]

At least 2-3 years ago

I forgot vwhen exactly they change slash

Or rather change the enemies

[ornate cosmos]

With umbra and opportunity's reach, I got staggered, got out of stagger and still managed to hit the tennokai

[tight mountain]

is there a way to see when i started playing the game

[fervent rapids]

Jade Shadows was the Damage and Status rework

[ornate cosmos]

Still hit it after a cast of his 3 and nourish too
You have so much time with oppo reach

[hard dove]

So it's still good
I have a lot of melee exilus not being used ig i should just use the other tennokai for now

[ornate cosmos]

Do use the other tennokai, even if it's just the base one

Faster and free heavy attack is rather good to let it be

(I play Kullervo a lot btw, so take my opinion with a grain of salt given my bias)

I have noticed weird alchemical behaviors with the incarnons
they're very welcome, by the way; just odd

If you try to mix the native inc element with a modded one, sometimes the modded element will proc by itself

Make a corro cold braton and the cold mixes with the inc form's heat for blast, but you still proc cold sometimes
And with my hate influence build, I noticed I proc radiation up close, but electric from far

[rancid wren]

Just to make sure, before I waste Forma, Primary Acuity works well with the Nataruk, right?

[ornate cosmos]

I wouldn't say so

Nataruk's projectile is rather fat and does big damage
You probably will want multishot with it

[rancid wren]

I thought the large hitbox of it prioritizes Weakpoints?

[ornate cosmos]

I don't think it does, which I could be wrong
But I don't think nataruk benefits from it more than, say, galv aptitude and point strike

[sacred sleet]

What're some fun melees to use with voruna?
And also what're some good elements to use in said melee weapon? I'm not looking for builds, nor am I looking for melee influence.
Just to be pointed in a fun direction

[fervent rapids]

you don't want Acuity for Nataruk, or any bow really, since the bow Arcane is so busted and Multishot works great with it

[ornate cosmos]

Longbow sharpshot?

[fervent rapids]

yep

[ornate cosmos]

Agreed

[fervent rapids]

it's multiplicative with damage mods, so it's 300% of your final damage, not a 300% base damage boost

and Multishot obviously makes that just even better

[ornate cosmos]

Oh

I have to slot that on my nataruk stat

[fervent rapids]

it's the best for most any bow tbh

[ornate cosmos]

I was thinking of what to do, since base damage wouldn't do me good and the element ones/crux don't work for me

[reef leaf]

Does anyone have builds for faceoff?

[fathom sky]

I frankly just use Mirage and Magistar since the one mission that can really bottleneck is the one with the jammers and AoE guns don't hit those for some reason

[wicked willow]

Can someone give me some tips on how to improve this build on Nezha?

[mighty flare]

are you using max energy shards, also dont need both energize & equilibrium

[wicked willow]

2 cast speed 2 strength 1 max energy

[reef leaf]

Why Mirage? Extra damage?

[fathom sky]

More AoE

Probably should go Saryn for the Baubau but I never fought one after the damage attenuation rework

[mighty flare]

iirc it was like sevagoth/saryn/mirage/volt for faceoff
then magistar + the loot dog for that one mission

prob matters less now

[severe bough]

I would probably change aura to brespite to be safe (if halo tweaks) and personally drop strech for pflow but thats pers prefer u alread got shards

[wicked willow]

what I can replace energize

[mighty flare]

i like steadfast

[wicked willow]

thanks

[wicked willow]

I'm so poor. I have only standard flow

[velvet pulsar]

I'm liking this combo of max efficiency + Energy Nexus enough to try on more frames.

[mighty flare]

you dont need pflow for nezha if shards anyway

[wicked willow]

ok

[severe bough]

Then just use shards better

[tranquil plover]

rate the build. also using one violet, a orange, two red and yellow.

[coral crest]

What are you using Orange one for specifically?

Asking because

FYI it doesn't work if shields are broken, can't shield gate with it if that's your intent

[tranquil plover]

regen 7.5 sheild when i kill with blast damahe

[coral crest]

Ah, so not gating

[coral crest]

You subsumed over 1, why keep the purple shard?

[tranquil plover]

should i swap em all for the violet

grimoire spam

[near vortex]

why's the purple shard there

[coral crest]

Grimoire spam

[tranquil plover]

use the grim to prime then use the third to boom

[near vortex]

Ig Grimoire can activate it

[tranquil plover]

i really like the third

grim is also more consistent to me

i just need to actually build it lol

[full girder]

Anyone got a good gauss build I can try out

[reef quiver]

Can someone dm me I’m trying to figure out if this riven is a groll

[median heron]

It is not

[fathom sky]

If you have to ask, it's likely not. Can just post it here

[full girder]

How is this gauss build

[versed patrol]

how should i build trinity and what augs to use if any

[dusty turtle]

Anyone have any good yareli builds and a good weapon for her?

I mainly wanna use you surging blades too

[mighty flare]

if this is ability nuking, drop: vitality, growing power, adaptation, blind rage, Molt Augmented OR Ice Storm
slot: fast deflection, arcane aegis, corrrosive projection, archon vitality

[full girder]

I don’t have archon mods

[drifting parrot]

Don't have fort archon stretch or August reach but I have regular stretch

[mighty flare]

still dont slot vitality then, as the archon version is only used for the heat trait

[full girder]

Ok what mod should I slot in

[mighty flare]

utility like rolling guard or parkour velocity

[full girder]

Cause I really don’t wanna farm archon mods cause I don’t understand the missions at all to get them

[mighty flare]

you can build her as a generalist crit weapon platformer with champions blessing
she has lots of utiltiy with her augments abating link for armor strip and vampire leech for free shields

you can also mod her for ability dps with her second ability EV

[mighty flare]

nuker gauss is harder to pull off without archon vitality

[full girder]

Ik but the khal missions ain’t make sense

[mighty flare]

look on the market for it

[full girder]

Is it even tradable

It’s tradable but 1,000,000 credits

[crimson ridge]

does the topaz shards work on jade or is it just a sim bug?

glory dont red cit anymore

[coral crest]

#gameplay-discussion message

This sure will be fun to work around

[full girder]

Ok I got archon vitality and fast deflection and arcane aegis

[full girder]

Do I need to replace everything else you said drop blind rage for what

[blissful knoll]

If this is meant to be a sunder nuke build, generally str would play less role

Even neutral str is fine (40% + molt augmented)

For defensive mods, fast deflection + arcane aegis basically keeps you immortal against everything but toxin

[tepid scaffold]

Remove the 2 for nourish

Shards = mostly duration with 1 strength shard iirc

Arcanes = avenger (combat discipline) and molt augmented

I've taken that build to level cap in cascade nearly a dozen times

[blissful knoll]

Oh interesting no champion blessing?

[tepid scaffold]

Yes. Nearly impossible to maintain or build at level cap

A single hit to health = dead

[blissful knoll]

Is this an mfd build then?

[tepid scaffold]

No

[blissful knoll]

Oh wait nvm

[tepid scaffold]

Nourish wep platform that armor strips everything around you while ensuring no one ever dies

[blissful knoll]

Ok yea that makes sense, it's a cascade build

Don't need the KPM of mfd

[tepid scaffold]

Lol mfd doesn't have high kpm

[blissful knoll]

It's got decent kpm

[tepid scaffold]

It's not even in the top 10 high kpm loadouts for level cap

[tepid scaffold]

Not really

[blissful knoll]

If it hits 100kpm it's enough

[tepid scaffold]

Falls off hard as level scales

[blissful knoll]

As long as it sustains life support

[tepid scaffold]

Compared to actually high kpm level cap builds? It's not even top 10

Sevagoth etc

[blissful knoll]

That's the thing tho, more kpm is wasted

[tepid scaffold]

Not really

Keys in disruption and clearing in cascade

And only weirdos level cap survival

[blissful knoll]

Ok disruption i agree, for cascade do you really need the kpm?

[tepid scaffold]

If you struggle to kill trash, you get swarmed.

If you struggle to kill thrax, you fail the mission

Mfd trinity doesn't even compare to falcor/xoris

It's cute for base sp

But not even considered for lvl cap stuff

[blissful knoll]

Ok but you don't need extreme kpm to kill thrax

You just need damage

[tepid scaffold]

Mfd trinity doesn't have extreme kpm

Mediocre at best

[blissful knoll]

I'm not saying mfd trin has extreme kpm

I'm saying that you don't need that much kpm

For basically any content you'd use trin on

[tepid scaffold]

You implied it did multiple times, then goalposted by saying "well you don't need extra kpm anyway"

If I misunderstood, my bad- but MFD trin is not really that good

[blissful knoll]

Sorry esl

[tepid scaffold]

No worries

[blissful knoll]

But yea I'm not saying it's good

I just meant the kpm metric is unnecessary cos it's cascade

[tepid scaffold]

If you want truly high kpm you should try-

Sevagoth
Cyte
Gara
Volt

Etc

They have WAYYY higher kpm at level cap

[old marsh]

Use reach then. Avoid negative efficiency for this frame. Try to complete quests. U get Umbral intensify from one of the quests

[tepid scaffold]

Even then, falcor/xoris has higher kpm then mfd trinity

[blissful knoll]

If i want kpm I'd play discoball mirage

[coral crest]

Also Garuda if you want KPM(kills per minute) to be as high as KPM(keyboard press per minute)

[tepid scaffold]

Even that cannot compare to the ones I mentioned

Sevagoth for example is just insane

[blissful knoll]

That's cos for seva it's basically half afk

You kill and it seeks more stuff to kill

[tepid scaffold]

Self propagating chain nuke that scales to lvl cap and weakens/debuffs any survivors + allows you to use other weps?? Easily S tier for KPM

Gara is also nuts

Max range + melee influence + spam your 1

[coral crest]

You know what's nuts

[blissful knoll]

Yep influence

I don't like how it's really sensitive to elevation tho

[tepid scaffold]

Meh

Equinox also has high af kpm

[coral crest]

Equinox is the only one who's also a capable kpm leech

[tepid scaffold]

Wukong slam used to be top tier as well

And cyte basically just shoots dual toxo/sobek through walls across the map the entire game

[tepid scaffold]

Nah Garuda cannot compare to the others

[blissful knoll]

Cyte is weird lmao, it clears so hard you end up needing to limit how hard you clear or you have to ruin the spawns to pick up life support

[tepid scaffold]

She nukes, and it scales, but it isn't anything to really compare to the others

[tepid scaffold]

Again, survival is bad.

1hr in survival is meaningless

1hr in disruption/cascade = level cap and a ton of relics/arcanes

[blissful knoll]

Dw survival is fun

Am i insane? Yes

[tepid scaffold]

Debatable. Cascade has unending enemies and better spawns + is actually profitable

Sitting in a mission for 1hr and barely seeing level 400 is just... sad...

[blissful knoll]

That part i do agree with

We need faster ways to scale survival

Idm the bad rewards, it's something to do for fun anyway

[tepid scaffold]

100%

[coral crest]

Cascade took a while to come into existence

Maybe the oh so coveted tau update will give something similar

[tepid scaffold]

Doubt

DE has been stupidly lazy the past few years

[blissful knoll]

That's cos endurance cascade is a significant skillfloor jump when it first came out ngl

[coral crest]

Really

[tepid scaffold]

"Random loadout random debuff on random reused mission type GO!"

[drifting parrot]

I have umbra intensity i completed all quests already but I dont have reach or fort

[tepid scaffold]

See above comment

[blissful knoll]

Let's be honest here, it took a while for the common people of the community to get to the level where longer cascade runs become fairly easy

[tepid scaffold]

DE has been completely unwilling to actually make challenging content or cater to people who want harder content, and instead has devolved to simply rng modifiers/restrictions

[tepid scaffold]

Agreed.

It was mainly the incentive tho

Vosfor = mass arcane farming is excellent

Best arcane farm is cascade

Best cascade farming method is level cap.

Then add omnia fissure cascade as a cherry on top

[full girder]

Ok I have those mods I just don’t know what to replace blind rage with

[tepid scaffold]

Disruption is similar, but there isn't a platinum farm associated with it, so it is far less popular

[blissful knoll]

Also disruption is a lot more... skill gap volatile in terms of how fast you can farm it imo

Cos you really need to understand those demo spawns

So it tires your brain faster

Even though if you play optimally it's not that long to take to levelcap

You tend to just tire yourself along the way and each mistake makes the run slower and slower

[old marsh]

aah. then use umbral instead of regular intesify

[drifting parrot]

Well my unbral isn't better then my regular intensify rn plus I need a orokin reactor so....

[old marsh]

aah. u want a budget one. gotcha. make a balanced build. coz your Shattered Lash will have a catalyst installed. u can install a lot of mods on there. so what u really need on gara is 1 duration mod, 1 strength mod and 2 range mods. thats it. try to get Augur Reach when possible.

and when u get a reactor, install it on Gara. she is phenomenal in cleaving tilesets.

[blissful knoll]

Gara is just really good at a lot of things in general

[old marsh]

also remove that exilus mod. its not helping anyone

[blissful knoll]

Augur reach should be gotten asap regardless

It's a cetus bounty drop

[old marsh]

ye. it was super cheap due to plague star.

[blissful knoll]

Farm it

[drifting parrot]

Can gift orokin reactor? XD

[blissful knoll]

Speaking of which, did anyone ever make an "important things to farm for new players by planet" check list?

I think that'd be useful, and since the mobile beta just came out and you need to start fresh there it's the perfect opportunity

[drifting parrot]

Nah I got orokin reactor now

Got so lucky from daily tribute disnt even expect it

Could've gotten a weapon adaptor or orokin catalyst

[drifting parrot]

What exilus mod

[noble crest]

Hiya does anyone know if combustion beam and primed firestorm will work together?

Or firestorm works too (I would used primed eventually) I’m working on a build for my Ignis Wraith

[hard dove]

Firestorm does not work for ignis since it's a beam and not aoe

[coral crest]

Ignis is a beam with an aoe impact point, so it works with firestorm

Lizzie works the same

[pale raft]

I have been using khora whipclaw with this build any change? I got like 13k with the 12x

And i know its nothing

[hard dove]

This game is stupid lmao

[hard dove]

Accumulating whipclaw missing

[pale raft]

Interesting i Will got it rn something else?

[old marsh]

there is one in Hex calender this week. complete these every week because the rewards are too good. some even have 3 day boosters.

[old marsh]

2nd one at the top row. Thief mod

[pale raft]

Flow is good on this build?

[drifting parrot]

How do I do that

Wait is that on the conputer

[drifting parrot]

Buh..... I like that if loot alot

[fervent rapids]

The POM-2 has the Calendar, yes

[old marsh]

The final quest allows access to Hex syndicate where you do this. U can find it in the POM2 PC on your gear wheel

It is crucial you do this calendar every week. There r 6 rewards. And almost always it’s a worthwhile week. This week we have 3 adapters, 1 reactor/Forma and 3-day booster.

And at each stage u have a choice between 2 rewards. Usually u wanna skip the Kuva and arcane rewards coz those r abysmal.

Really wish DE bumps up the Kuva from 2k/6k to 10k/25k. and make all arcane rewards be a pack of 3

[drifting vault]

Is this any good? i dont have, nor intend on getting zhuge, so i was thinking about dissolving or trying to sell it

[dense wadi]

I've been having fun with Ivara lately. Are there any improvements I could make with my build? (Dread is 1111)

(the electric purple shards are mostly left over from when I was trying to run corrosive on Evensong, haven't really looked to see what I could replace them with yet)

[civic apex]

Are you role playing as a taser with the safety off?

Cause if so that's dope

[dense wadi]

well

I'm kind of looking at throwing eclipse on instead, but then I can't dump duration 🫠

mayyybe range? probably... I like navigator

helminth is getting A LOT of food today 🥲

[tranquil plover]

me need a xaku build for lvl cap

[upper pawn]

Can someone send me a good oraxia prime build

[vague oxide]

Is my Gauss and Acceltra good? Can i handle steel path?

[mighty flare]

viral heat is ran nowadays
ur gauss looks to be made for ability nuking and not weapon platformin which the acceltra would like

[vague oxide]

well thats what my 2nd config is for but i haven't gotten around to building it yet

i just wanted to make sure that Gauss can handle stuff before i start modding again

what should i use in substitute for viral heat?

[spiral chasm]

you need a way to survive

fast deflection + r0 arcane aegis is probably the most lazy option and u can have fun not worrying abt it

[mighty flare]

accelltra

• hunter munitions --> hellfire/wildfire
  gauss
• constitution/augur reach --> fast deflection
• molt eff --> arcane aegis
• energy siphon --> corrosive projection

[vague oxide]

this sounds great! thank you sir/ma'am

[boreal mason]

Guys is my build any good

[sinful jacinth]

Does Caliban need power strength? I kinda feel he might benefit from more range, but I also like blowing up enemy armor with Fusion Strike.

[mighty flare]

str most important stat followed by range & duration

[sinful jacinth]

Ah, it must make the progeny stronger

[stable plover]

does bulding Zepher for max range at the cost of ability str, greatly effect the dmg output of her tornados?

[next dune]

alright. question. what archon shards are people using on lavos commonly? i already have a yellow shard on him cuz i dont like how slow his 4 is but i have no idea for the other 4

and no i dont care enough for a second yellow for cast speed. one is good enough for me

[west grove]

testing out a build where I proc viral then spam heavy attacks for huge slash procs:

[mighty flare]

casting speed
ability duration
parkour velocity
corrosive stacks

[next dune]

corrosive stacks huh... that's interesting

anyone know how hard the shock collar mod is to get? beast claws dual stat electric mod

[odd lodge]

if i have a umbra slot i dont want, and cannot get rid of it cuz no forma, should i do this geniunely

[granite ginkgo]

wadahek

how come u manage to put in exilus

[west grove]

u can swap it to a different slot, if u think u can fit Umbra mods on ur build

[odd lodge]

oki

[vestal sapphire]

umbra forma on aura slot next

[odd lodge]

ok

ill try :3

[prisma rivet]

What are the essential augments for Wisp, Xaku and Oraxia? Trying to not watch 20min guides on each lmao

[fervent rapids]

Oraxia doesn't have any Augments yet IIRC.

[blissful atlas]

Whats the best status combination for shredding overguard? Building Mesa's exalted and the only real problem i have is overguard on the eximus

[celest tendon]

Nope

[lavish orbit]

There's no essential augment on them, they all don't have any that really count to optimize them

[lavish orbit]

Try fortifier has an arcane, magnetic is the only one that do something on overguard iirc, i personaly use a combinaison of magnetic and heat

[blissful atlas]

Will Armor be a problem in the higher levels? Since im probs just gonna get the arcane

[haughty pagoda]

Nah, enemy armour caps out at 2.7k for 90% damage reduction ever since mid 2024, and just shoved up enemy health stats instead
And usually around level 80 it's already at that 2.7k armour

[lavish orbit]

Like Artemis said + heat does shred armor

[blissful atlas]

Damn, i just remembered for some reason that heat does extra damage to health for some reason (Maybe bcs i use viral+heat quite often...)

[severe bough]

What your playing as Element comb on regulators

[near snow]

is this a good riven

[midnight horizon]

@somber island Which one of my baruuk builds you want to see?

I have a general use build, a build for when I want to deal faction damage and a build for wrathful advance

[fresh surge]

it's ok nothing crazy but ok

[near snow]

can rivens go up to like +400% dmg

[fresh surge]

yes but rivens that can are for very weak weapons

and flat dmg isnt that good anyway

[somber island]

General build

Which frame is best for solo eso?

[midnight horizon]

Alrighty

[somber island]

Thanks

[dense meadow]

Mirage and sevagoth work really good

[dense meadow]

Eeehm it necessarily doesn't do extra. Gas is the only status combo that does that cus of the tiks or dots as long as enemies are still in the gas cloud. Heat just makes other statuses kinda hit harder like if u use a frame that can proc heat and u prime enemies with a different elements that goes well with heat like viral gas or radiation u get some nasty damage

[frigid oyster]

hi is that good for the daikyu?

[dense gate]

If I was going to put Dispenser on Khora, which skill would be best to subsume over?

[somber island]

Which frame is most unique?

[analog stirrup]

1: If you are in base path, its fine.
2: IPS mods(impact, puncture, slash) are a newbie trap, do not use them as they provide very little benefit.
3: Crit and crit damage missing.

[frigid oyster]

okey

[analog stirrup]

Venari, her 3

[torpid oar]

could anyone reccomend a good primary weapon and a good secondary weapon for octavia? i want them to be very very strong bcus of when i do sp or level cap

[coral crest]

There are plenty of weirdos

Can't just pinpoint the weirdest one

Only the buggiest ones

[lavish orbit]

Is that really how it works ? Thought heat only has heat inherit as a trait (priming with weapon that have faction mod for example will make every heat dot gets this damage boost if primed again). Viral and Magnetic boost damages on health and Overguard respectively, Gas just does dots that can headshot and radiation confuse enemies...

[analog stirrup]

She does not care about wich weapons you use, her 4 already boosts weapon damage out the wazoo, besides... You dont realy need weapons on her, her abilities already delete everything :>
Just use what you like and mod them accordingly.

[torpid oar]

i want to do so so when i do void cascade or if i encountered violence
if so should i do griimore and torid since im mr 11?

[analog stirrup]

Grimoire is kinda meh but any incarnon will work fine, grab some and try for yourself.

[torpid oar]

alright then for secondary ill do ocucor?

[analog stirrup]

Note occucor need the augment to perform well, without it, its prety bad.

[torpid oar]

what augment?

[analog stirrup]

Its only augment, I forget the name. Came with nightwave once and a couple times after on some events.

[torpid oar]

sentient's surge?

[analog stirrup]

That's it

[torpid oar]

oh dang i dont have it and there's no way to get it

[analog stirrup]

Unless you buy it from other players, no

[torpid oar]

could u tell me a secondary till i reach mr 14? im mr 11 rn

[dense meadow]

Gas is pretty good compared to magnetic is u really want good crowd control and AOE plus is really good in gunco builds. But heat inherit pretty broken i dont use faction mods except on epitaph i just use cyanex to proc gas and tap on novas one and the heat and blasts status just one shots everything

[analog stirrup]

Kompressa, very little investment needed

[dense meadow]

Try cyanex

[torpid oar]

yeah but its mr 13 im mr 11

[torpid oar]

cyanex?

[dense meadow]

Auto homing bullets that ricochets once

[maiden geode]

is neat

[analog stirrup]

Was it? Cant remember the requirements and cant check atm

[torpid oar]

ill look for it

[torpid oar]

yeah its mr 13

[analog stirrup]

Regular one?

[maiden geode]

but Kompressa is indeed easier to mod

there is no other variant of the cyanex

[dense meadow]

Mr 8 weapon and pretty easy to craft its slept on though. I think am the only one who uses it tbh💀

[torpid oar]

mr 8
should i try dual toxocyst?

[maiden geode]

well its nto incredibly great or anything its just neat like pretty much every weapon in the game

[analog stirrup]

If you can get its incarnon, sure

[maiden geode]

you can, anything works, try whatever looks best to you

dont even need incarnon its just a bonus

[torpid oar]

i jsut came back to warframe idk what to do 😭

[analog stirrup]

Makes it a lot more confy

[maiden geode]

pick whatever seems fun and stick with that honestly

[torpid oar]

okay

[maiden geode]

you can make anything work in 2025 so you should focus on finding something thats fun to play and suits your playstyle

[torpid oar]

yeah

[dense meadow]

Word of advice dont rely too much on incarnons if ur new

[analog stirrup]

You can do anything with a mk 1 weapon, its more a case of how much you want to invest on a weapon

[maiden geode]

indeed

[analog stirrup]

When in doubt... Go kitgun :3

Even the worst combination can delete base SP enemies

[maiden geode]

anything can, even the stug can

its more about the build and properly understanding and investing rather than the gun. The gun should just be fun to play

[analog stirrup]

The mighty stug

[torpid oar]

is it okay if i used regular ephitaph till i can get the prime one?

[analog stirrup]

Yes

[maiden geode]

and fun is very subjective, some may prefer classic rifles, others may prefer sniper rifles or shotguns, anything out there really

[torpid oar]

okay the tysm yall

[maiden geode]

yea the stat changes are incredibly insignificant

[analog stirrup]

Prime does get a huge aoe increase but that's it

[maiden geode]

the uncharged fire mode gains a slight crit chance boost i think? which is irrelevant as you use that to prime, the charged mode gains a tiny bit of status chance, which is irrelevant because you dont proc status with that excep the forced impact which is ... well froced

and then there is the 10% increased fire rate which is neat

ig but the regular one does the trick

[analog stirrup]

Either works fine, yes

[torpid oar]

okay and im gonna use it with burston or torid

ill get both and try them

ty yall

[tardy lily]

So I am trying to solve a puzzle I've run across, Felarx vs Strun Prime Incarnon.

• both use a projectile
• Strun Prime has punchthrough but Felarx does not somehow?
• Neither have a bounce mechanic (unlike the Latron, which is the current top contender for weapon)

So why does the Felarx's shots continue to orbit in Mag's bubble while the Strun Prime's do not?

[coral crest]

Strun prime is incarnon mode in this context?

[tardy lily]

aye

[coral crest]

Felarx has infinite body pt, Strun inc is just a bomb with no pt

[tardy lily]

oh
I did not know it had infinite punchthrough. that explains a lot

I've modded the Strun for a bit of punchthrough but for some reason it explodes at the center of the bubble even when the bubble is empty. I'm...not sure why, I've caught it orbiting once but I've not been able to replicate that.

[coral crest]

It's definitely not a good one to be used with Mag's bubble

Since projectile just gets deleted after running out of PT and meeting an impact point

[tardy lily]

Yeah. Which is unfortunate.

The Latron Incarnon and the Felarx have been my top performers so far.

[coral crest]

Never reaching the height of Tenet Arca Plasmor

[tardy lily]

lol aye the TAP is pretty darn good. the aforementioned two are the only ones I have that outperform it.

[coral crest]

Or Penta

[coral crest]

Like a moddable mag shard

[tardy lily]

oh wow

that I did not know 😄

[coral crest]

Penta projectiles have to be manually detonated

Outside of that they just fall and roll around

[tardy lily]

ahh

warframe, never change lmao

[coral crest]

And thanks to that if they get sucked into a bubble

They just become a physics object of doom

[tardy lily]

ahahaha oh no

(I've really been looking for weapons that A: have a good aesthetic, I'm a sucker for the orokin and tenno styles, and B: are more engaging than point-and-delete. tennokai, wanting to activate incarnon mode, acuity, anything that makes me pay attention to the moment-to-moment gameplay)

(I'd love for the Baza Prime to be a projectile weapon, it's so much fun with an acuity build and aesthetically it's perfect, but alas it doesn't use projectiles and thus doesn't play well with Mag's bubble)

[coral crest]

don't have too much mag usage, sadly

Only watched the bible video by Rowan

[tardy lily]

Rowan's video is pretty good! I'm shocked they don't mention the Latron Incarnon, it's hands down one of the best weapons I've seen with her.

I have been playing mag since I started in 2014, and she's my overwhelming favorite. With my setup she can do anything I ask of her.

[coral crest]

I think it was mentioned in a follow-up

[tardy lily]

huh, musta missed that one

[coral crest]

Don't remember though

But yeah garuda video also missed some funky interactions

Can't blame for missing a point or two in a hour long video

[carmine dew]

why not lol

new players aren't gonna have incarnons

[tardy lily]

yeah that sounds about right

[carmine dew]

the earliest ones you even get are the zariman ones which are a bit of a grind too

[spiral chasm]

theres also the kullervo weapon as incarnon no?

unless u cant farm him early

[carmine dew]

what? you mean the rauta?

that is not an incarnon

[spiral chasm]

onos is

[carmine dew]

whats that got to do with kullervo

you mean dante? lol

[spiral chasm]

oh thats dante

nvm

[carmine dew]

yeah onos and ruvox are incarnons

[spiral chasm]

wrong frame

[carmine dew]

the thing is that most incarnons are not very good tbh so like

like sure there are many big time meta kings like dual tox and whatever but most are not that

idgi why anyone would tell a new player not to use them

[spiral chasm]

i think its good if u can acess them fs but u need another better weapon so u can handle the circuit SP. cuz the new players probably think the weapon without the adaptor will perform

without the incarnon stats they weapons are pretty bad. compared to some non incarnon weapons

[coral crest]

Finally, Rauta incarnon

[dense meadow]

Makes them lazy and they never learn about moding

[carmine dew]

what are you talking about lol

1. incarnons are pretty late in the game
2. you still need to mod them

[dense meadow]

i dont think u got the point. i mean once a new player has reached sp and get an incarnon btw a player with like less than 200 hours who speedran the entire thing since thats how its done these days. ive seen alot of players reach sp with no moding knowledge and run everything on requested builds and once they get their hands on something like torid then they arent touching anything else

[carmine dew]

so what

[misty berry]

when is incarnon dual ichor in circuit?

[carmine dew]

knowing absolutely anything about how the game works is optional lmao

the average player here certainly doesnt

[severe bough]

The Problem is most players use yt vids and also most players just play the game on a casual way

[dense meadow]

thats not the point. the thing is nobody learns how to build anymore and makes them completely reliant on other players builds its like playing half the game at this point. like everytime someone crafts something they dont even try the weapon but they already requesting builds

[carmine dew]

"anymore" again how is that a problem

modding is pretty complicated and the game doesn't help you

you have to go to said youtubers to figure out how to do it really

[dense meadow]

still would be great if they try to be more self reliant and trying out stuff and experimenting. like the minute a streamer says this is meta and gets them excited over it they get it copy the build. I dont see the satisfaction in a build if it isnt mine lmao

[dense meadow]

not so sure about that. i tried sp first time and i was dying every 3 seconds. but persistence just made me learn and figure it out from a few pointers from a couple of expericenced friend. just build test repeat until u figure out how building works or u gonna be requesting builds the entire game u can fr reach lr 5 without knwing how to build at this rate

[carmine dew]

yeah and that's the games fault

not the players

the game is dense as hell and doesnt teach you anything about its mechanics that are opaque and sometimes even contradictory

so i cant blame anyone at all for just following a youtuber

[dense meadow]

idk how thats the games fault. warframe is an RPG so u gotta find out stuff for yourself overtime and i believe thats how rpgs should work. u just explore till u understand. think of every run as a learning experience. like my gun isnt doing enough damage how should i fix it kinda thing and u figure it out

[carmine dew]

yeah and the game is supposed to make it easy to find ways to explore

not hide damage behind spreadsheets

[dense meadow]

cant expect the game to spoon fed u lmao or things would be way to easy

[carmine dew]

warframe is no botw, that much is for certain

[dense meadow]

well it works for me cus am a curious player ig

[carmine dew]

for the average gamer the fun is playing the game and not playing trial and error with numbers

like how is the average goober supposed to figure out how progenitors work or which ones are the best

[dense meadow]

well u might be right or just the new generation f gamers lacking that old gamer curiosity

i have around 900 hours ingame runs and spent around 700 just learning stuff. i was getting one shot by level 40 enemies at some point but rn i easily solo sp with no issues while still using the old trial and error and experimenting till i get it right

[severe bough]

Technically i dont have a problem with people who copy i just hate the yt builds where the people praise its the best build but forget about half the things thats important. ( ofc there also good yt vids )
The problem about wf is there is literally nothing explained about all those niche mechs ( in game ) which is kinda bad cuz the first u think is yt to be a good source of Information. For myself i rather use dc to ask look into wiki diff Spreadsheets or take a look at ninjase build copying is bad but most players just dont care

[severe bough]

Everyone has a diff edge in wf most players just doesnt care about modding and rather copy everything and i speak out of experience cuz i also did that but i wouldnt do that anymore

[dense meadow]

the only thing that i hate about yt and streamer builds is that it makes players forget other weapons. theres lots of good weapons out there in th game that arent even touchedsince everyone so inested in meta

cyanex is a good example of a slept on weapon. never seen it even mentioned anywhere except wiki and nobody is gonna use it and some other weapons out there begging to be touched since new players just focus on streamer weapons and builds

[carmine dew]

like not everyone wants to spend 1700 hours on one game lol

[keen wren]

whats a good weaponto use when you start

[carmine dew]

i feel myself mostly grinded out and waiting for the old peace and im only at 750

[carmine dew]

atomos and hek are my go-tos for super new players

[keen wren]

hek

LOL!

[carmine dew]

its a hek of a good shotgun

[keen wren]

dad joke

[carmine dew]

🥁

[keen wren]

I started with volt

Ive made it to jupiter

[severe bough]

I mean ye def it but tbf i stopped to hate incarnons and just accept them even tho the game got really changed through that its not bad

[keen wren]

within 2 days

[dense meadow]

idk lmao. i invest my time and stay in a committed relationships with games that are actually good

[carmine dew]

best starter imo, he's really good for melee weapons if you want to try that

but he's just really versatile in general

[keen wren]

i did I only do melee if I get scared

[dense meadow]

i dont just use incarnons mostly cus i like non incarnons better

[carmine dew]

his speed buff also speeds up melee swing speed

so it makes melees more powerful too

[severe bough]

I got one friend who almost got 90 days more ( he started later then me ) since he played the game just for fun and fashion my purpose was only searching new builds and not really playing till the last 2 months now

[dense meadow]

I explore the entire game. The only thing that should be worked on is the mod rarity and drop chances. Example is archgun mods

[pastel igloo]

trying to build valkyr, is this good?

shieldgate is outsourced

[queen parcel]

anyone got a good build for the tenet glaxion?

[pastel igloo]

id assume aptitude, mutlishot, primed shred, corrosive, blast, bane

[severe bough]

More range

[pastel igloo]

dont have it, but id probably go with that if i did

[queen parcel]

nah i'm using for frost so it needs to keep cold

i...think at least

[pastel igloo]

doesnt frost have an augment that lets you get cold damage? even so non combined cold seems useless on anything other than util/primers

unless you want it to be a primer idk

[queen parcel]

i don't have space for it lol

[pastel igloo]

still, why would you wanna deal cold status anyway

[queen parcel]

but yeah that's fair

[pastel igloo]

frost can do that on his own

with abilities

[queen parcel]

cause frosts passive gives him armor per enemy with cold on them

which makes the augment on his 4 stronger

[pastel igloo]

just use abilities

[queen parcel]

right

either way, i dunno why they made it's augment crit based

seems like a crappy crit weapon, unless i used a damaging status?

[severe bough]

https://overframe.gg/build/668226/tenet-glaxion/tenet-glaxion-viral-electric-heat-with-variants/ its a bit older but should be still working

[queen parcel]

thx

[severe bough]

Just wondering if gappy is working or not i didnt Found it in gunco spreadsheet unless im blind

[undone dust]

pure blast tenet glax is also just hilarious

[severe bough]

True

[severe bough]

Do u know if gappy applys to glaxion?

Only some days till we get the update

Then we can find a way to activated influence on the bayonet primary mode

[undone dust]

im pretty sure its additive

[tardy thicket]

Okay, so, super confused because I made a Cyath/Schtung/Vargeet II Ruhang Zaw, which says it’s a polearm, so I could use boreal’s contempt on it with my Zephyr.

Now I’m trying to mod it, and apparently it’s a miscellaneous and can’t put the boreal mod on it? So what determines if a Zaw is the listed type or a miscellaneous?

This is also furthered by the fact that the Tonkatt and this, which are both miscellaneous according to the inventory sorting, still can both equip tonfa and polearm STANCE mods respectively, so what gives?

[midnight horizon]

There's a table on the wiki for what zaw combinations give what weapon types

[rugged ferry]

any advice to improve Flux Rifle?

want to push it further into steel path, but as with most status weapons, feel like i dropping off

i do got Archon vitality to double the heat status chance

[midnight horizon]

I don't think archon vitality works with weapons

[rugged ferry]

...

damn it...oh well protea uses it anyway for artillery

[tardy thicket]

Doesn’t really help because the wiki also says that Cyath/Schtung SHOULD be a polearm. Is boreal’s contempt just disabled on Zaws?

[mighty flare]

drop flux overdrive and primary merciless for primary crux, more consistent
swap to magnetic progen element

[rugged ferry]

replace flux overdrive with what?

[mighty flare]

could mod for crit with crit delay and vital sense (over serration)
im guessing the riven has fire rate?

[rugged ferry]

na

i working on it still. currently

i like the punc hthrough

[mighty flare]

youd just use primed shred
this would replace thermite rounds

[rugged ferry]

aye. but what should i reroll riven to. crit?

hm..viral magnetic might be fun

[mighty flare]

yes crit roll would fit easy

[wicked scaffold]

yall know any frames i can make crazy with xata's whisper, i feel like using the ability in a build
right now im looking at the nova okina prime build, but im curious about what else there is (other than xata's titania, i know its good but i want big explosion :3)

[tranquil plover]

should i build xaku as a gun platform or ability nuke

or a mix

[jagged hornet]

I have the same question

[tranquil plover]

https://youtu.be/IveP7iMl6mM?si=lIlTu9NQI7RViQhN im planning to use this vid, seems good

[reef leaf]

On Nekros, is one Purple Tau Shard enough to replace Equilibrium, or should I use two?

[coral crest]

kyaii makes 5 million videos that say [warframe] is the most broken warframe

so much slop

[tranquil plover]

yeah but it seems to be the best xaku build i could find

at least the most up to date

[lunar blade]

big explosions.. xata's whisper.. kuva ogris?

[jagged hornet]

Thanks

[median heron]

Jat kittag with nova xata

[frigid crater]

What does voruna even do?

I remember corufell being OP on her
Is that still a thing?

[quiet laurel]

crit dmg buff, automatic bleed procs with attacks, easy priming, invis, infinite energy

and good QoL passives

[frigid crater]

Jack of all trades?

[quiet laurel]

well she is melee centric

there isnt really any benefit to using guns with her

[frigid crater]

Well this stinks

I have almost no melees that are useful
Except for glaives

[quiet laurel]

what you got

[frigid crater]

Glaive prime

Xoris
Falcor
Corufell
Those dual scythes from 1999
Dragon nikana

Skiajati counts?

Maybe try changing streamline for one of volts augments

Like his 4th one

[spiral chasm]

you have no way of surviving rn

[quiet laurel]

falcor and xoris are the 2 best glaives, corufell has multiplicative CO which means huge damage, dual viccis are really nice

[spiral chasm]

capacitance augment is a way u can add more survivability

[frigid crater]

Yeahhh i know but like

[spiral chasm]

if your shield break u need a way of regeneratingthem

[frigid crater]

It gets pretty boring using only glaives

Ita like true melee on terraria yk

[spiral chasm]

slam

[frigid crater]

Sure, glaives are like extremely op, but sometimes true melee with tennokai can be super fun

[frigid crater]

Now im just changing boring to annoying

[spiral chasm]

melee influence tennokai are fun

[frigid crater]

I HATE THE SLAM TECHNIQUE 😠😠💔💔💔

[spiral chasm]

dual ichor, nami solo but they do require incarnon

[frigid crater]

Funny 125M crit that's not gonna reset my combo and transfer the damage to the entire room

[frigid crater]

Yeah im starting to realize that a lot of the best melees are incarnons

[quiet laurel]

which doesnt work cause influence doesnt spread on one hits

[spiral chasm]

a lot of the best weapons in general are incarnons

[frigid crater]

Yapp yapp yapp

[spiral chasm]

before the gas big fix it was funnier

[frigid crater]

If incarnons werent so boring to farm id genuinely farm a lot more of them

[spiral chasm]

boring how?

[quiet laurel]

just play enjoyable plat farms and buy incarnons with plat

[spiral chasm]

dual ichor has fun gas bubbles

[frigid crater]

2 hours doing steelpath circuit is not funny
At all

[spiral chasm]

ooh you meant to farm lol i misread

yeah they are annoying to farm

[frigid crater]

More important things to buy with plat

[spiral chasm]

ive slowly been building my frames to be SP viable

you can also use your 2 to shield gate if u go briefs respite+ cata shields

and if u can farm archon ~~cont ~~ stretch its better so u can proc elec with 2 and regen energy

[quiet laurel]

or do passive gating

archon cont applies corrosive on tox proc

[spiral chasm]

we can dial it back

whats the part ur stuck on?

so whenever ur shield breaks u get a certain amount of dmg immunity

[quiet laurel]

when your shields break you get a short window of immortality based on how many shields you had since your last shield break

[spiral chasm]

that immunity is based on the shields u have before it breaks

[quiet laurel]

you abuse that by regaining shields via augur mod set/brief respite

and in the current meta the mod catalyzing shields is bugged to always give a 1.33 seconds window at any shield level

[spiral chasm]

this mod lowers ur shield amount so u can hit max shields with less ability casts

i didnt know the bug wasnt fixed yet thats funny

[quiet laurel]

so you can either slot catalyzing shields and the 2 shield recharge mods to have easy passive shield gating or have any augur mod/brief respite to do active gating by always pressing an ability whenever your shields run out

[spiral chasm]

thought it wouldve been fixed by now

just to keep it simple shield break gives u immunity

[cerulean rune]

Is Archon Vitality any use of Ember ?

[spiral chasm]

how much per shield number doesnt really matter if u just constantly make sure u have max anyways. and catalyzing shields helps that

[quiet laurel]

ye

gotta help ember quite a lot to make her decent to play

[snow ice]

Same

[quiet laurel]

if you slot catalyzing shields, vigilante vigor and fast deflection you'll have a maximum theoretical 0.8 second window of vulnerability where enemies can damage you, while the practical window is usually smaller than that

sometimes you'll regen back your shields right after shield gate ends, resulting in constant invulnerability at times

tho note that taking dmg during shield gate resets the shield recharge delay, so you cant face tank with this

basically move around and you'll be fine

maybe have some crowd control or evasion and its easy survivability on any frames with shields

what

we are talking about optimal builds here

you can go damage reduction, 4 augment, active gating, passive gating, hell even invisibility for volt as survivability

I mean tbf the build looks like you just threw random things together

warframe difficulty doesnt come from actual difficulty of the content but rather knowledge about how things work

[spiral chasm]

you need 4 more forma fr

[snow ice]

is mine optimal for sp?

[quiet laurel]

no

[snow ice]

Sadness

[quiet laurel]

wasting so many mod slots on survivability

[snow ice]

I don't think that's an issue tbf

[quiet laurel]

its not modding efficient

[snow ice]

Oh?

[quiet laurel]

the slots could go to ability stats or QoL

you are using loval merulina with 100% efficiency

[spiral chasm]

doesnt yareli have OG?

[snow ice]

QoL?

[quiet laurel]

efficiency should be at its cap with loyal merulina

[snow ice]

Wdym?

[quiet laurel]

no

[spiral chasm]

i dont play her much but i think i had some when i did

[quiet laurel]

probs secondary encumber on secondary

[spiral chasm]

hmm something else gave me OG then

[quiet laurel]

This is what I take to lvl cap usually

ignore ready steel

thats a bad aura to use

[snow ice]

We both have completely different ways for sp

[quiet laurel]

and thats fine

but you asked whether your build is efficient which it isnt

or optimal rather

[spiral chasm]

a rank 0 is enough

no need for a rank 5

[quiet laurel]

rank 5 activates the 0 second shield recharge delay

[snow ice]

True 😅 but i dont spam my abilities that much, i rather let my tigris prime and lato vandal do the talking for me

[spiral chasm]

the moment aegis procs its at 0s so theres no need for a r5

you can take rev and be immortal

thats what i did at least

yareli has a 4s invul ability too

gauss doesnt die with full battery with just r0 aegis+fast deflect

his 2nd ability mesmer skin

each stack can take unlimited dmg. and u get 1s invul

with a full str build u get like 20 stacks which is around 30s of invul for free

[quiet laurel]

I could have sworn it was R5 that had the constant recharge

[spiral chasm]

well it lowers ur worry to only weapon for now

with volt u have 2 problems rn. surviving and dmg

with rev u only have dmg to worry for now

[spiral chasm]

nah pretty sure r0 is what ive heard like a year ago and pretty sure its still the same

caliban also has a bug where hes unkillable

i mean i thought the gauss interaction was a bug and hasnt been fixed for what 1.5 years? now

it took them like 5 years to fix the xata bug with zariman incarnons

its worth using til its fixed and you will be upgraded by then

shield gating is a feature

[quiet laurel]

its been a bug since forever, just wasnt popular

[spiral chasm]

rev mesmer skin is an ability that will never get nerfed

[spiral chasm]

aah i see. gauss prime just opened that gate and then also the shield regen buffs

the nice thing abt gauss is that i dont have to worry abt going into a nulli bubble and dying

but i do have toxin to worry abt

[quiet laurel]

inaros

valkyr

tickling enemies with her 4 definitely is an achivement

I think its the highest damaging melee in the game

[spiral chasm]

u need good mods to do proper dmg

viral priming makes ur weapons do 4.25 dmg

if u have viral on a pet and slash enemies with valkyr u will see a lot of dmg improvements

it does suck against corpus but u just go pure toxin and u bypass their shield

dealing with enemies require the right dmg types

especially if u do it through raw dmg

if u just full build valkyr properly you will be more then fine

or any frame + 1 weapon

[quiet laurel]

lemme find the guy who makes good damage guides

[spiral chasm]

modding is a huge part of doing insane dmg

[quiet laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT6DX2Djs-c&t=1029s guns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihO0b4lOLDw&t=847s melee

[spiral chasm]

thats cuz ur trying to sprint to the finish line

[quiet laurel]

warframe on the surface is a cool space ninja game but when you look deeper its actually just a game you can write your masters in mathematics about

[spiral chasm]

unless u have plat to rush stuff u cant do that

i buy forma so i dont have to wait for builds on my end

i farm prime parts > sell > buy forma

just gotta wait 2 years for the next forma grind even lol

[quiet laurel]

at this playtime people usually havent even completed the second dream so you are fine

you are WAY ahead

[spiral chasm]

yeah way ahead in quest etc but it makes u behind on modding

yeah i havent even maxed my prime mods yet

i keep them at r8

so uhm

[quiet laurel]

so one problem here, you cant proc influence

[spiral chasm]

melee influence only works on electric

[deep grotto]

Gang i just spam companion app so i can wait for them while i’m busy

[spiral chasm]

is COWBARFF still the way of melee?

tbh idk the current melee stuff

[quiet laurel]

CRAB SWEAT

[spiral chasm]

crab sweat is the new way holy

condition overload and PP do the same thing

so place fury/berserker fury in that spot

[coral crest]

Why is it called crab sweat again

[spiral chasm]

cuz the letters

[coral crest]

Wait the letters

[quiet laurel]

just to have a word to refer to it

[coral crest]

Okay

[spiral chasm]

factions mods are THE dmg amp

[quiet laurel]

read before judging

[spiral chasm]

probably doesnt matter in ur case of base SP

but it does HUGE dmg

[quiet laurel]

faction mod slot is flex slot

[coral crest]

CORAS/FBRS(G)WWEAF(S)/FT

Better name, yeah

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-cat-shaking-cat-alien-cat-gif-17719290639671130907

[spiral chasm]

say it 5 times quick

[quiet laurel]

say it times 🗣️

its a free heavy attack when you light attack

tennokai has a chance to trigger when you light attack, when it triggers you have a window to heavy attack in which procs a sped up heavy attack that doesnt consume your combo

[coral crest]

And there's a tennokai that just procs every 4 hits

Free heavies

Input with a very lax timing

[quiet laurel]

its a timing thing

[coral crest]

You will get a huge icon during which you have to press

[quiet laurel]

was an attempt of DE to make melee more active

[coral crest]

You are not gonna miss it unless you geniunely try

It covers your aim reticle

[quiet laurel]

its not hard

also do you wanna play the game or nah

[coral crest]

Bah

[fathom gyro]

Skill issue

[spiral chasm]

my heavy is mouse scroll up

jump is scroll down

whats ur melee?

use middle finger for scroll and index for left click

you wouldve hated old melee

unless u like clicking 10cps everytime

[slender vine]

Guys does Taxon works with Hildryn instead of the shield Kubrow?

[tawny nova]

For my Tenet Arca Plasmor should I swap out any mods or keep as is?

[dapper seal]

I don't know a whole lot with builds but I'm looking for help building my kuva quartakk. I like the gun and got a riven mod and after a few rolls i got +165.7% crit dam, and +88% fire rate. Is there anything specific thats best to mod for with this weapon?

[mighty flare]

yes

lose some things to gain other stuff

[mighty flare]

if you wanted to max out electric dps

• use deadhead to drop primed point blank for shotgun elementalist / shotgun barrage / bane
• swap viral mods for 6060 versions

are you using external buffs like tenacious/reinforced bond

[tawny nova]

ah ty!

no externals atm

[mighty flare]

arca plasmor feels a lot better with some fire rate, would reccomend investing in a pet for those mods
its free +60% fire rate and flat +1.2 crit dmg

[mighty flare]

its still usual viral heat, crits, galv chamber, fire rate, and galv aptitude

[dapper seal]

Thank you

[undone dust]

@mighty flare caliban pyro fell flat it's wildly inconsistent

there goes my use for caliban

[mighty flare]

howd you ran it

[undone dust]

wdym, like the ability cycle?

[mighty flare]

yeah and like the complete setup

[dense wadi]

got a lot of tips from an Ivara main and made her better. I guess the only thing I'm not super set on are her shards and the mods on Dread. Does anything look off?

[spiral chasm]

why gas on dread?

[dense wadi]

more aoe for non incarnon (and i just like gas) and it can headshot. I opted for that instead of blast bc I don't think I can build up stacks for it to really make it effective

I forgot too the upgrades for it are 1111

I do wonder if Serration mod + the arcane is too much dmg%

[spiral chasm]

you do have a lot of flat dmg

[dense wadi]

ooh. maybe swap to deadhead and take out serrate..

gonna try hammer shot. that looks good

[mighty flare]

are you sticking to dread cuz of the augmnet? paris would usually be preferred

[dense wadi]

Yea, and I don't have Paris incarnon. The augment is kind of nice if I want to do exterminates or something

I honestly don't know much about Paris anyway, but since you mentioned that I'll check it out

[undone dust]

setup was the one i showed you with razor's aug added, but the cycle was group, wrath, then pyro a couple times but pyro wasnt hitting multiple times like 80% of the time

[mighty flare]

besides the point

• deadhead or sharp shot are better arcanes
• drop vile acceleration for more important mods like elementalist/bane

[mighty flare]

wdym not hitting

[undone dust]

isnt it supposed to hit multiple times on ragdolled/lifted enemies or how does that interaction actually work

[mighty flare]

you ragdoll an enemy and it targets every limb, stacking lots of heat

[undone dust]

so it probably works better with razor and the aug, yuck

[mighty flare]

yes, ragdolling is necessary and/or roar/heat inherit with a bane

[pale zenith]

Would putting Firewalker over Thermal Sunder on Gauss just be memey or would it genuinely have an actual use? I have too little range on my build for thermal sunder to be useful on my Gauss so for my current build I wanna try a subsume over it.

[undone dust]

are there like genuinely any fun frames that have ragdoll abilities that would be good with pyro

[mighty flare]

yareli, nezha, mag, etc

[lost hull]

try the fire walker augment maybe see if the speed dash still acts as pushing the number up

[undone dust]

i assume mag's ragdoll is only with pull

[coral crest]

Vauban can also do it

His 4 is the pull

[undone dust]

i would go into debt buying and crafting him

[coral crest]

Base is currently in the circuit

[undone dust]

i refuse to play a base frame with a prime variant

[mighty flare]

iirc yeah, full list is like banshee, caliban, hydroid, mag, nezha, nidus, rhino, styanax, temple, vauban, yareli, zephyr

[coral crest]

And technically Temple if you put pull or airburst on them

[lusty bramble]

Hello everyone, does anyone have a good build for Vauban prime? Or at least what to build him for. Thank you

[undone dust]

can you add a couple extra circles

[undone dust]

how do tornadoes actually fare with pyro anyway? ive been meaning to try that combo

[whole nimbus]

Does someone have a build for trinity in sp by chance?

[charred gale]

Wheres the red arrows?

[pale zenith]

Very very very good

[coral crest]

Ok you know what? Fair. I haven't slept for 30 hours

[vestal sapphire]

temple ability on mag is fun

[rare elbow]

Is Xaku's Grasp of Lohk ability affected by Arcane Camisado?

[coral crest]

You mean if they count as minions?

[rare elbow]

Yeah

[coral crest]

Nope

[rare elbow]

Thank you

[rugged ferry]

hows this for viper wrath...

mind ya i get like...1 secound of fire per mag

[mighty flare]

works decent enough, but so does lots of thing on zephyr

[signal cloud]

Hi! I used to play a long time ago and now im trying to get back and improve my stuff but honestly im a little bit lost on how things worked, this the character i used, really dont remeber much of builds or progression or use of mods, any tip would be awesome!

[celest tendon]

Play elite sanctuary 20-30 to lvl up your warframe.
Do orokin vaults in deimos exterminate or capture missions find a vault with dragon keys obtained from dojo orokin lab.
Do puzzles from lua any map, they drop mods.
Do nightmare missions they drop mods.
Do assassinations missions they drops warframes,weapons and get blueprints from markets for credits.
Do the cephalon simaris captures for standing to get other warframes and their parts.
Get warframes from the dojo clan volt,wukong etc...

Since dojo lab is very fast to get weapons and warframes .

And for materials purposes always check the drones extraction below right side of monitor whenever you are in navigation mode.

As for builds, I think it would be good to see if there is some builds from other players for loki to be handle in level cap stuff.

As for weapons parts it would be good if you find some weapon with incarnon adapters.
Try to get melee from the stalker a hate weapon it's good, plus do bounty quests, they drop mods for warframes and weapons parts.

[signal cloud]

Thats a lot of names haha, but thanks i really apreaciated! Time to get back in the fight

[celest tendon]

And get a key from cephalon simaris and go to simulracum area to test your weapons and warframes as part of other possibilities for warframe to handle with survivability and defense plus some mods for abbilities to deal a lot of damages, all depends what you want inside a game.

[maiden oracle]

How's this for an emo Excal?

[queen parcel]

what subsume ability would be good on this?

[burnt spindle]

Nourish is good to proc vial and keep up your energy

[queen parcel]

but then what do i put in place of truculence?

also

everything uses norish, can i please have smth that isnt nourish?

[coral crest]

Yes, vial rush

Because it's a funny freeze movement skill

[queen parcel]

oh

yeah good point

gives me a reason to farm base lavos lol

[hearty scarab]

Inaros

Gauss

Arcane aegis + any shield gate build (passive preferably)

[undone dust]

for frost?, breach surge, xatas, thermal sunder is funny (those are the three i use)

[queen parcel]

I was looking and I was thinking about using elemental ward

[undone dust]

cold ward is the only usable one but that would be for fortifier and influence shenanigans

but frost already has overguard gen and influence is just influence

[vapid pivot]

What wud be the best archwing for the hunhulus type boss fights in the upcoming update?

[mighty flare]

amesha

[vapid pivot]

Can u explain why

[mighty flare]

de created all archwings equal, but some are more equal than others

short answer is ur basically invulnerable

[vapid pivot]

I mean i have a fully built itzal, but a lot of people says about amesha

[vapid pivot]

Really?

[mighty flare]

de gave an archwing messmer shield

[vapid pivot]

Dayum 💀

[mighty flare]

then stacked it over twice with aoe slow & healing

[mighty flare]

so yeah
de created all archwings equal, but some are more equal than others

[vapid pivot]

That “some are more equal than others” kinda confused me lol

[mighty flare]

basically claiming equal standing while recieving preferential treatment, de created archwings with specific niches but also created amesha which negates said niches
itzal only retains usefulness in eidolons

[vapid pivot]

Gotcha! Thanks

[hidden pier]

hows this for a kuva grattler build

[mighty flare]

swap to viral heat/magnetic, modding for tox for blight is not worth

[hidden pier]

hm
id like to keep blast because it kills chaff marginally faster than heat but i can give that a shot

[mighty flare]

grattler has innate blast

theres no point in modding for more, esp if you lose viral