builds-discussion

[blissful knoll]

Just make sure to not bring brief respite/augurs on the pillage build

You don't wanna interrupt your long shield gate by gaining unnecessary shield

[elfin geyser]

i tried pillage

dont like it as much

for me its either terrify/no subsume/tempest barrage

[blissful knoll]

Steadfast for energy economy, molt aug + madurai + 3 tau str for 328 str to full strip, probably gonna swap cunning drift for psf once i have access to it, and ofc pillage over 3

14 guns vs 15 guns are not a big deal

[elfin geyser]

i think im gonna go with terrify

frees up a slot that ill use for better energy economy

full armor strip without having to change my build

and bigger range by 25% or so

[blissful knoll]

235 range is 14 guns, 250 range is 15, 267 is 16

It's minor dps increase

[elfin geyser]

no no i meant like actual range for the ability

without relating to the second ability

im talking about ability 3 vs terrify

[blissful knoll]

Ah i still stand on my point, you don't actually need that much range

[elfin geyser]

should i use the last spot for energy nexus or streamline?

[celest tendon]

What is better

[elfin geyser]

i know im doing it for the larger aoe armor strip

less for the guns

[blissful knoll]

Creeping terrify so they don't flee from you

[elfin geyser]

as well as for the untime rift

[elfin geyser]

hmmmm

if my energy ends up not needing anything else

[blissful knoll]

That's the thing with omega range terrify

[elfin geyser]

ill use that

[blissful knoll]

They just flee from you

[tawdry zealot]

do the ability strength and ability damage archon shards stack multiplicitavely? is it worth using both or just the strength increase?

[coral crest]

Ability damage shards are multiplicative with the final damage inflicted.

[tawdry zealot]

thank you

i knew there was something multiplicative

[coral crest]

It's pretty situational when it comes to frames

People like to use it on Qorvex for the radiation shards, but it's not a very good idea

Due to how his 4 works

Can't remember any other frames that people put it on

[tawdry zealot]

I've got it on gyre

[coral crest]

Oh right

For some reason I forgot that one of them is electricity

[tawdry zealot]

lmao yeah

i love electric procs ngl

[coral crest]

So yeah, it's just a multiplicative bonus

Pretty good if you can make use of it

Especially on gyre with electricity shards

[tawdry zealot]

glad i'm making good use of them at least

[midnight horizon]

What aura should I put on lady maria

(mesa)

Don't say pistol amp

[coral crest]

Pist-

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-loser-tiny-kitten-explode-gif-15623895175038521381

[midnight horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159566087059419156/1433991694369423582/image0.gif

[mighty pelican]

corr projection

[midnight horizon]

Makes sense ig

[mighty pelican]

works always

[mighty pelican]

alternatively combat disciplin + arcane avenger for flat +45% crit chance

however if you got something like arcane hotshot thats overkill

[midnight horizon]

Im already using that but I'm planning to change to hot shot

[mighty pelican]

yeah in that case corr projection makes more sense

[brisk gyro]

I am using hotshot and I must notice if you run mission where u kill enemies in like 1-2 seconds hotshot is utterly useless.... u stack it way to slow there

[midnight horizon]

I play survival sp for a living

I think I'll be just fine.

[brisk gyro]

Then yea that's a valid reason to change to hot shot

[mighty pelican]

while survival mesa can go without it i always pair hotshot with a dedicated companion which makes it work anywhere with decent density

and if not it can reach max stacks very quick too

[grave cloak]

pistol scavenger

[velvet pulsar]

Pistoleer

[brisk gyro]

Ah yeah right companion should be able to trigger it too, I personaly don't like to rely on that except I play sth like diriga with heat in the weapon but even there if feels better triggering it yourself. I would go for the companion route if u wouldn't lose all stacks at the same time

[grave cloak]

"er actually pistoleer isn't an aura🤓"

[mighty pelican]

yeah im using a diriga, in sp where the enemy doesnt die instantly i can get to max stacks within seconds

[velvet pulsar]

I don't need to mention if I spoke in context or out of context

[brisk gyro]

Ah yhe good old diri, I prefer using hounds..... I hate that diriga can't have the fire rate bond

At least he can use the final critt one with verglas

[velvet pulsar]

Hound 📈

[mighty pelican]

ive never used hounds outside of leveling, ik theyre good but all the combinations to build them have been too intimidating and the ones i got from sisters might not be as good as they could be due to that

oooooooor its not that deep

[brisk gyro]

Hound + citrine...... u feel like the second or third character... I had this week citrine in eta and I felt useless with the most dmg dealt

[mighty pelican]

hmmmm i need to try that then, i mostly default to adarza for them crits

also great for contagious nuking

[brisk gyro]

It is funny sometimes seeing random 5-6 statuses spread across the room..... it's like diriga but abit less reliable

But with more range

[mighty pelican]

in the case of fortifier, on themselves?

[coral crest]

Nope

[violet path]

anyone got an octavia build that isnt centered around NOT DOING ANYTHING?

[coral crest]

That's literally just octavia

Most of builds focus on amplifying bonuses and duration of her abilities, that's already enough

You just have to use other buffs that aren't invisibility and make a good song to shoot in rhythm with

Other buffs that aren't crouch give you movement speed, multishot or melee damage that scale with ability str

[tender forge]

Can I get some feed back. This is my looting build. Shield of Shadows and Rolling guard prevent status. Qorvex Subsume has 3 purposes. 1. Deal damage so Ripkas amalgam mod can dismember enemies. 2. Trigger Arcane Fallout. 3. Cause Terrify to make enemies to be scared of each other (Creeping Terrify is to basically stop the ai from moving). I have 3 Tau Purples on for Equilibrium. 40m desecrate does drain your energy but universal orbs restore ~75 energy per orb and the orb drop allows the desecration to force drop look from the severed limbs.

[coral crest]

And her amp buffs weapon damage

People often say "you can just stay invisible and afk"

To which I say "didn't you want to play the game"

She's got all you need to play her like a weapon platform

And it doesn't need builds that are much different

[violet path]

i dont wanna afk fyi
the metronome buffs seem kinda annoying to maintain though

[coral crest]

Like how Revenant is a scaling damage ability caster but everyone runs him like a braindead torid platform

[brisk gyro]

I would agree with nuc, u can subsume sth instead her 1 or 2 and just play a gun build

[coral crest]

That's why I went on this rant

[midnight horizon]

So chat i been thinking

[brisk gyro]

Just make the spamming rytm bs

[coral crest]

I got what you meant and decided to chime in

[coral crest]

You don't even have to subsume resonator off

[brisk gyro]

A rare sight in a gamers life....thinking..... we're hearing what u have to say

[coral crest]

It has an awesome augment that literally makes enemies follow into your reticle

And it's exilus

[brisk gyro]

Yea true her kit doesn't need subsumes but u can go even more weapon platform

[coral crest]

I meant to talk about the augment

[brisk gyro]

Aaaah

[coral crest]

Because it not only keeps enemies away, but it also keeps them away within your aiming distance

[brisk gyro]

True that's why I thought rather subsuming 1 since resonator is a realy strong ability + the augment

[tender forge]

would radiation help the targeting

or damage

[coral crest]

It's still fitting within the gun platforming playstyle, that's what I mean

[coral crest]

It only enables friendly fire between enemies

It won't help much but cause super rare infights

[tender forge]

well you could use it to subsume over 3rd and use radiation shards for more damage

[brisk gyro]

What i was thinking.... why not use desecrate augment... with this u can use sth else than uni fallout and quortex subsume?

[coral crest]

What are you even putting as a radiation subsume?

Qorvex's pillar?

[brisk gyro]

Yes he does

But my thought about it just why, what's the reason to do so

[coral crest]

I'm not sure if radiation is a good selling point. Pillars are acting as cc even on eximus units, on the other hand

Their slow ignores overguard

But you already have terrify

[brisk gyro]

I think more its for the arcane but for energy equilibrium is enough

Desecrate gives alot of health orbs

[coral crest]

Yeah Nekros with equilibrium will be totally fine

[tender forge]

answer looting health orb drops cause desecrate to force loot drops. healt drop 60% of the time on corpes but if a orb alreay drops it is removed from the pool. universal orbs are healt orbs

[brisk gyro]

Hmmm well that is a fair point

[tender forge]

i was talikg about octivia

use radiation shards on octivia and have max range and duration

[coral crest]

You really don't need that

Her kit is already overloaded with cc thanks to resonator

This will just make her unnecessarily static

[tender forge]

the shards would increase mallet damage. 4th would double range of mallet

[coral crest]

I don't think a conditional static area damage increase is worth it if you don't want to be a sitting duck as an octavia

She can already do it, that's literally the only thing everyone tells you she's doing

But that just wastes her potential

[tender forge]

im going to try it and get back to you

[coral crest]

Besides, do you really need to boost mallet's damage

If you want to be a gunrunner with her

What you said kinda only benefits a static sit-on-your-ass octavia, but with a worse cc option

Octavia has a unique ability to literally lead enemies into her aiming reticle

[violet path]

wouldnt this work?

[coral crest]

Why can't we make fun music

:(

[violet path]

the mandachord already doesn't allow me to to make good songs..

[coral crest]

Make it a short loop rave

[violet path]

lowkey wanted to make this ost on the mandachord but 3 minutes in I realised im not cut out for this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkYejDiG9xg&list

[hard dove]

theres the pumped up kicks mandachord thats still decent for gameplay

well more than decent compared to other song

[tender forge]

Im curious what happens if an enemy is applied with both radiation and charm effects and how that would work with high priorty targets

[coral crest]

https://youtu.be/L52egy_khNk

This is the octavia endgame

[vital sage]

hello i am new. i have question and i need help i want to post on Warframe Feedback sub-forum. and i have no idea how anyone can help me please

[dry mason]

blast or viral on acceltra prime?

[brisk gyro]

I use viral on mine

[midnight horizon]

Ngl I fell asleep so I alr forgot what I was gon say

[brisk gyro]

[hard dove]

neither bc it has bad status
but viral if you must

[patent igloo]

viral

[grave cloak]

people when they play hyper efficiently and are surprised they get rewarded with a hyper efficient playstyle (shocking) (gone wrong) (NSFW)

[coral crest]

"why can't I have fun when I optimize the fun out of the game"

Not to mention a solid half of those optimization attempts aren't exactly good or actually optimized

[hard dove]

me when i use 1/4 of a frame kit and wonder why the frame is boring

just time your hit for good weapon buffs fella

[coral crest]

Me when I replace a free subsume slot on a frame that doesn't need more energy or priming with nourish

[grave cloak]

I feel like that's the problem with octavia haters tbh

she's perfectly fine she's just probably not your playstyle 🤷‍♀️

and that's okay since we have like... 60 other frames

[quiet laurel]

oh is this about octavia?

[grave cloak]

nah it was about revenant

[quiet laurel]

I also hate octavia but she is insanely good

[grave cloak]

:blueless:

[hard dove]

blueless

[coral crest]

It's about revenant as much it is about octavia

[hard dove]

and Wukong somewhat

[grave cloak]

I mean she carried me through the star chart when I was still figuring out how the game works

[hard dove]

please use the staff its a redcrit machine even without WA

[coral crest]

They got the tools for variety and a different playstyle, everyone just can't see past the "optimal" part of the kit

And then just slap the most braindead weapon imaginable and complain how the game isn't fun anymore

Ending up crying that a magistar equinox is outdamaging them and entering an unending war of metaslaving

[quiet laurel]

thats on them

[hard dove]

can some1 confirm this does staff have 1.00 follow through?

[coral crest]

All exalted weapons do

[quiet laurel]

iirc all exaulteds do

[coral crest]

Ye

[hard dove]

oh nice

[coral crest]

Exalted weapons and Ghoulsaw

[quiet laurel]

and nami solo

[coral crest]

Oh yeah, that too

[scarlet mason]

I want to play banshee but she is not useable because of her non existent survivability. Untill i get my hands on full arcane escapist, I want to experiment with enemy acurasy. You can decrease enemy accurasy by 56% with mods (excluding EMP Aura mod). I struggle with finding additional sources of accurasy decreess. Can someone give me advice on it?

[tender forge]

the incarnon nami solo

[grave cloak]

omamori subsume

but honestly use gloom subsume it's a lifesaver for banshee

[quiet laurel]

just shield gate, even passive gating works

passive gate + silence stagger and maybe omamori subsume will be ez survivability

[upper ingot]

Does anyone have a Mirage build?

[coral crest]

Spam Banshee's 1 at max cast speed like your life depends on it

[scarlet mason]

I like that idea of omamori. I still don't have sevagoth subsumed so gloom will have to wait

[coral crest]

Omamori and shield recharge delay mods are basically lazy immortality

[grave cloak]

omamori subsumed over 2. if you have another source of energy regen (e.g. from archon shards or using dethcube) then you can swap energize for whatever you fancy really. arcane power ramp/arcane rage/arcane precision are all fine

[quiet laurel]

dont even need gloom

[grave cloak]

it's nice on banshee tbh

[proud anchor]

Yea silence and gloom is a pretty strong combo

[brisk gyro]

another banshee enthusiast. Depends on ur inventory i can recommend 3 subsumes

1. omamori: just brain off survivability that can imo is one of the best subsumes for her in terms of survivability.
2. Eclipse + arcane aegis: u can use the dr till u get an aegis proc and when it proc swap to dmg if u want some more active gameplay.
3. My fav: Null Star. It gives you 75% dr aaaand with the augment u can use arcane hot shot with it for a free critt buff since null star is one of the best hot shots stacker

Funny part about nullstar banshee the null stars that fly at the enemies can hit banshee weak points and u can just play caster banshee with this..... realy funny thing

[midnight horizon]

-Magazine Capacity on a riven.

Primed pistol gambit, 5 tau orange shards, and an r5 hot shot

Results in.. roughly 240% cc on regulators

Uwoooooooooooooooogh

[tender forge]

How many condition like charm, terrify, confusion can an enemy suffer before their AI breaks or becomes a weird interaction

[coral crest]

about 2

[grave cloak]

three fiddy

[tender forge]

so slow, terrify, and confusion would break AI

[grave cloak]

in all honesty why though

the AI used to be smarter admittedly

[tender forge]

because I want to see enemies chase each other

[grave cloak]

when you used invis right in front of them they used to immediately blind fire your last known location

now when you use invis right in front of them they just act confused for w/e the reason

[tender forge]

im thinking about using resonator on a radiation frame

and seeing what happens

would charm out rank radiation

[grave cloak]

cooking surely

[tender forge]

or somthing else would happen

[grave cloak]

right up there with a take I saw about how to survive SP and that is to put radiation and electric on all your melee weapons so that melee influence also spreads radiation

[tender forge]

i know radation and terrify cause enemies to be scared of each other and the augment seaces their movment

this is why i know that

im just therory crafting at this point

like what would happen if radiation was applied to an enemy when a high priority target is near by

or radiation charm

give me ideas to try

[tender forge]

fair but can we get something even better

hello

[solar sequoia]

question, I maxxed out zenurik, now which school should I focus on next?

[tender forge]

look at the ways that are able to be unbound

then pick one that you like to have for the other schools

[coral crest]

Unairu. Unlock last grasp

[tender forge]

that^

[coral crest]

Extremely important

[solar sequoia]

Ngl I haven't checked the other waybounds

[tender forge]

do that and focus on it

[coral crest]

Unairu's last grasp allows you to not spend a revive if you kill like 3 enemies with the operator

Non waybound abilities are passive knockdown immunity and armor strip

[tender forge]

and increase damage during bleed out

[solar sequoia]

ZAMM
this is OP
but I only got sirroco 💀

[coral crest]

Sirocco isn't bad but

Even the mstt basic cheapest crafted amp you could scramble

Will do 10 times the dps

[tender forge]

bettter than mote beam

[solar sequoia]

I built some parts here and there from cetus iirc....

I gotta see if I got enough for a set

[tender forge]

little duck too

[coral crest]

It geniunely pretty much doesn't matter what parts you use

[solar sequoia]

Im on r2 with her rn lol

[coral crest]

Crafted amp would be better than default ones

Except Klebrik Scaffold

It's worse than mote amp

[tender forge]

i hope we get modable amps

[coral crest]

We are getting new operator abilities instead with the next update

I'd rather have extra abilities in each school first

[tender forge]

fair

[coral crest]

I wonder if those will be able to shift the thrax killing in cascade

[tender forge]

just we need a better way to kill with operator

[coral crest]

Maybe you won't really need an amp anymore outside of last grasp

[tender forge]

mace them

[solar sequoia]

I only have Klebrik Scaffold 💀

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-smek-gif-5026592947828156993

Last thing a 9999 Thrax sees

[tender forge]

that is good

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-20496920

[coral crest]

Well it's an alt fire

Not everything is lost, it won't affect primary fire

Outside of the scaffold other parts are solid

I'd use Lohrin Brace, it adds some critical chance

Raplak is single shot, Rahn is an auto rifle

[solar sequoia]

Aight, here are some bp I haven't crafted yet. What should I try for now?

[coral crest]

Phahd scaffold

100%

Raplak/Rahn prism
Phahd scaffold

Brace either Suo or Lohrin

But ideally you want Certus brace from Little Duck

@solar sequoia pong

[solar sequoia]

Interesting interesting

what rank can I access Certus brace?

cuz I know rank 2 isn't there lol

[coral crest]

Void status on amps isn't very good. It's a bullet attractor that can mess up your further shots if procced in a bad place, so dmg/crit is generally the best on amps

Certus gives highest crit modifier, so it's best in slot in pretty much any amp

[coral crest]

4

Closest alternative is Lohrin, it also gives some crit chance

You already have that one

[coral crest]

Without grinding Vox Solaris your best bet for what you already have would be what I said here

[solar sequoia]

all right, understood

Gonna wrap up my session today now and sleep, tks for the help y'all 🙏

[coral crest]

Gn

[civic apex]

I have a funny idea for a limbo disruption mission build. But I need to get my hands on the rift torrent mod before I can test it out

[near vortex]

I'd slide you one but I don't have arbiters or suda

Rift Torrent is a must have for Limbo though

Gives limbo some EXCELLENT weapon buffing

[coral crest]

It's Limbo

It's important

I can give it to you, I have it

For a fish or any other tradable equivalent

[grave cloak]

Limbo in disruption is interesting

[coral crest]

@civic apex pong

[civic apex]

That would... actually be really awesome. Do you have any prime parts you're after?

[coral crest]

Ehhh

Octavia maybe, but that's kinda it

But I don't really need anything for rift torrent

[civic apex]

I think I'm fresh out of Octavia. But I've got a bunch of Acceltea receivers that make for good ducat scraps

I'll drop my profile in trade chat

[coral crest]

You can just whisper me in-game

Same nickname as here

@civic apex now, go forth

[civic apex]

The basic Idea to lock as many regular mobs as possible into rift surge/stasis and then use the scaling damage amp from rift torrent to do massive damage to exumis and demo units

[forest dove]

Anyone have a good Inaros Prime build rn all I've done is use

1. overextended
   2.strech
   3.streamline
2. Umbral Fiber
3. Umbral Vitality
4. Augur Message
5. Archon Flow
   And Physic in aura slot
   This is the build my friend recommended me but it's not working for me

[civic apex]

This build is intended for medium to higher level content as your opponents need to survive banish for it to effective. And rift surge needs to be used in conjunction with Cataclysm to properly affect targets without directly banishing them to the rift. That said.... I don't think there's anything limbo can't banish so It should be fine in theory

Oooh wait a minute... there may be a minor flaw here... unlike stasis which effects the entire rift at once... rift surge is radial.. I forgot about that part

Hmm... gonna have to give this some more thought. For star chart anyways. Should still work amazingly with steel paths otherworldly mob density

[near vortex]

rift surge also affects the entire rift when you cast

the radial bit is when they leave the Rift and Rift Surge re-banishes them

[civic apex]

Ooooh. Oki I misread something

Then yea, you just need to make sure your targets actually survive being banished 😂

[tender forge]

Limbo need a rework. the OG void frame

Prevoid damge void frame

[deep grotto]

I mean

The rift plane is in between the void and the real world

Although his lore might need a rework

[true agate]

Anyone got a full profit taker build? or can point me to one

[vivid hull]

guys im finally getting riven mods so which one i should use here?

[fathom sky]

Right is useless because -sc is an awful negative to have, left is useless because it doesn't have any really good positive traits, take either and keep rolling. Attack Speed, Range, Crit Damage is what you should be looking out for

[vivid hull]

i got this one now

[fathom sky]

If it doesn't have at least two of the stats mentioned here, pass.

[wooden apex]

Are the builds from ninjaese (overframe) good? cause i love them, but i keep seeing people saying that overframe is like, hell on earth 💀

[next fossil]

i don't even know what overframe is

[fathom sky]

It's hell on earth because you can't easily tell who knows what they'r talking about and any one with half a brain can upvote a build. Ninjase knows what they're talking about and is good to mooch builds from

[next fossil]

lol when i make builds i don't know what the heck i'm doing but if they kill steel path with millions of dmg even if supposed weapon stats are only at 120 i don't mind it

[wooden apex]

Ohhh alr, everytime i search an build and hes not there i just think ''oh no''

[queen token]

whats a mid lvl amp i want to change my amp before i get the 1-7-7 amp every1 recommends

[stark mist]

233 i think was the old "meta" which is still good for beginner stuff

[queen token]

oh ty

[deep grotto]

Ah so that’s why i heard it a couple months ago

[stark mist]

yeah

233 was the old meta, 177 is the "sniper" meta and 777 is the general use meta

[fathom sky]

777 bad because Propa is just awful to use against regular enemies. Just go 547 since that's useful for Last Gasp and Thrax

[deep grotto]

Iirc 223 is the old Eido meta

[deep grotto]

Yeah that sounds right

Ive seen 547 more often than 777

[stark mist]

i havent tried 547, all i run is 177 since it 1 shots almost any shield with madurai

i use eternal eradicate + virtuous shadow/strike (i forgot which)

[fierce depot]

so i gave up on zaws for a while cause i wasnt sure how to build them, till this one guy was flexing his Exodia contagion, then i saw the damage and what the heck am i missing?!?

[abstract axle]

contagion is pure bugframe, he was probably leveraging at least one of them

my personal favorite is it double dips eclipse

[fierce depot]

wait so it's not actualy meant to do that kinda damage?

[abstract axle]

yeah it supposed to deal the base weapon damage lol

the reason it hits for crazy numbers is something is normally being counted twice

[fierce depot]

ahhh

[abstract axle]

If I recall correctly, it triple dips roar

[fierce depot]

sheesh XD

[storm sable]

whats the name of the mod that gives me max energy when i spawn into a mission?

[fierce depot]

dang i wana try a zaw again, any in paticular i should make or is it better to just focus on normal weapons?

[abstract axle]

preperation

preparation*

[storm sable]

ty

[queen token]

is it good for void angle n cascade?

[fathom sky]

Angels you just do 177 and Cascade I think still goes 547

[abstract axle]

747 every dall

[abstract axle]

zaw tech is wacky. for a pure contagion build, you want the slowest rapier possible, ideally with viral. traditionally you maxed out crit, but I think in current meta you max status to guarantee influence

[fierce depot]

ah dang

[queen token]

oh

[deep grotto]

Ooh?

[queen token]

oh

[deep grotto]

Sometimes i wonder if DE will fix things like multiplicative damage

Especially with how prevalent using that is in basically any steel path build

[charred gale]

If ur scaling into higher lvs then youd probably want 147 or 547, 1xx has hit reg issues when ur not host so id just recommend 547

[charred gale]

Its a feature now :)

I doubt they’re gonna fix after all this time

[queen token]

im currently collecting builds to enter lvl cap

[charred gale]

Yeah then i wouldnt go for 747 then since it doesnt do that much dmg and drains ammo rly quick

[queen token]

oh so is it 547 or 177?

[charred gale]

547 or 147

[shut saffron]

547

Never make 147 it has hit reg issues on client and needs high melt stacks to do the same as 547

[charred gale]

Melt stacks?

[shut saffron]

Magus melt

[charred gale]

Yeah but i thought it doesnt affect thraxes

[shut saffron]

You can't one shot the manifestation with low melt stacks anymore

Which was the main appeal of 147

[charred gale]

Oh wtf

Thats dumb

[shut saffron]

You need fairly high now

Just make 547 anyway since it works best on client

[charred gale]

Yeah i used to use 147 before and then hitreg issues got so annoying

[next sage]

is this a good set of characters to have

[shut saffron]

Looks decent yea

You have the #1 frame for like 75% of missions in there anyway

[next sage]

im working on getting wisp prime rn

[shut saffron]

(titania)

[next sage]

awesome i love titania i honestly just got every character i thought looked cool (not mag)

if i were to get another frame who should i work towards and also what weapons for titania and koumei since i didnt get their weapons in the market

[queen token]

547 with wat arcanes

[stark mist]

wukong (get from dojo) is a good frame to get

[shut saffron]

Onslaught eradicate

Though onslaught isn't mandatory if you have good aim for headshots

[latent saddle]

i need help with boar build around with this riven

[deep grotto]

You should make her look like a bee

[next sage]

hold on ill show what she looks like rn

my weird ass creature ❤️

ill make her into a bee

[deep grotto]

I meant Titania but Bee Mag sounds sick

[next sage]

my titania is just pink rn i might make her a bee…

[deep grotto]

At least seperate configs exist

Drop em in fashionframe

[civic apex]

Gameplay wise he needs absolutely no reworks. He's almost as old as the game is and over the years he's been refined to the finest point

[next fossil]

personally i think Nidus needs a buff to his 4th ability when it comes to damage.

[frail quail]

Anyone got a rubico build for eidolon killing?

[mighty flare]

do you have any incarnons unlocked? burston, dtox, etc

[frail quail]

I dont

Are they better?

[mighty flare]

yes they are preferred nowadays but rubico still works

[frail quail]

You get incarnons from the zariman right?

[mighty flare]

yes, also duviri

[frail quail]

Alright ill check em out, ty

[mighty flare]

i dont remember which incarnons you get from there, some arent good for eidolons

[frail quail]

Do you know if the braton incarnon is good? I have one of those with a reactor already

[mighty flare]

braton is basically weaker burston, so not great

if you've already invested stuff into it, it'll be okay to use

[frail quail]

Alright, thank you. I dont need the absolute best, just that my fulmin isnt really doing good damage xD

[mighty flare]

this is eido rifle templates assuming if ur lacking most dmg boosts, you want external fire rate
its for rivenless ppls

some guns can drop to only hellfire if you're using primary elec shards
then use open slots for fire rate

[frail quail]

Got it, thank you

[mighty flare]

who are you using btw? the frame

[nova ingot]

Sup yall, id like to ask if these builds for my Gauss Prime kit are good, and if theyre upgradable.
honestly im at some point in the game where i dont know how to keep improving my power, low level techrot/scaldra missions are easy (since enemies arent that hard to kill), so no idea how to keep improving.

[tender forge]

give him a massive QOL

[coral crest]

Imo they could give a better rift visual to enemies

The rest is too easy to break

[tender forge]

or give him void damage and rework around that

[fallen ermine]

Half of wf com doesnt even know how to play limbing 🥀

[civic apex]

Well firstly. The rift isn't the void. That's well clarified.

[civic apex]

And secondly the only QOL you could give him is literally just a broad visual indicator for what mobs are and aren't in the void

[coral crest]

He isn't void affiliated. The whole point of the rift is that it's not void affiliated

[civic apex]

With the proper use of his augments he can basically do every major combat roll

[tender forge]

that was a few years before the void was a thing

[nova ingot]

guyssss

[coral crest]

It still doesn't have ties to the void

It's supposed to be in-between material and the void

Like a thin membrane that would split you apart if you weren't good at keeping yourself in place

[fallen ermine]

Try endurance like disruption/cascade

[tender forge]

Limbo's component blueprints were discovered by the player during the The Limbo Theorem quest, scattered across the Origin System as a result of the Warframe's miscalculations when crossing between the normal plane and the Void. https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Limbo

[fallen ermine]

You got alot to fix

[coral crest]

Yeah? So? The rift is the crossing tool, not the void

[tender forge]

yes but it still could deal void damage

[coral crest]

Why

[tender forge]

why not

[coral crest]

It's not void

Because it's not void?...

And limbo doesn't deal damage with his abilities

[pallid plaza]

I would take off strech and put in a guass augment . Also you should have a excess of energy with equilibrium so maybe strop streamline for more duration

[fallen ermine]

Why void why not true damage

And make it percentage

[coral crest]

Limbo's kit already does a silly amount of damage thanks to rift torrent

You don't need to give him damage

[fallen ermine]

I would play limbo caster if they do that

🤤

[coral crest]

That would cost him his identity that's already refined as much as they could without breaking

[coral crest]

Just use weapon coded abilities

They get rift torrent buff

[civic apex]

Fr. People who say limbo needs a rework don't know how to play limbo or can't be bothered to learn

[tender forge]

if DE reworked limbo to make the rift more effective and have him lock down eximus abilities and make him more tanky that way is better than dodgeing in and out of combat

[fallen ermine]

Theyre removing weapon coded abilities 1 by 1

[civic apex]

He is a bloody caster 😭

[fallen ermine]

I dont think they like it

[coral crest]

They removed one (?)

[civic apex]

Well okay. Maybe closer to a battle mage

[coral crest]

Due to a rework

[civic apex]

But still

[coral crest]

He's an enabler. Like Zephyr or Mag

[pallid plaza]

Teach me the ways of the limbo I love his look and lore but am a slow learner

[novel bear]

No?

Oraxia has weapon coded abilities

So does temple

[fallen ermine]

They did tho, smite, tempest barrage, gyre ball

Im saying theyre silently removing it 1 by 1

[civic apex]

Hold on. I have a REALLY good yt video for this. It's a long boy though

[novel bear]

Removing some, not removing the concept

[coral crest]

Those are years and years apart for different reasons

[tender forge]

think about if void procs were utilized to deal more overguard damage and lock down guns. stasis could lock down proced enemies

[pallid plaza]

Dm me plz

[novel bear]

They wouldn’t be adding more if they were

[coral crest]

Temple has weapon coded abilities

[fallen ermine]

Tempest barrage was one pre nokko btw

[coral crest]

No it wasn't???

[tender forge]

they make them ability specific synergy like citring 1 and 3

[tender forge]

i made that. I am the storm that is approaching. Nokko and tempist barage and augment

[coral crest]

I don't think tempest barrage was a weapon coded ability pre nokko

That's clearly misinfo

They haven't removed that many of them and if they did it was due to a complete tool rework.

Or due to bugs

[tender forge]

yes. or mis conseption

[novel bear]

I can’t find anything about tempest barrage being weapon coded ever

[coral crest]

^

[fallen ermine]

Was it not one

[coral crest]

It never was, I did a lot of research for universal weapon bonuses

[versed harbor]

tempest barrage never was

[fallen ermine]

What was affected by arachne

[coral crest]

They keep adding weapon coded projectiles, latest one was Oraxia

[tender forge]

maybe ability synergy

[versed harbor]

uh breach surge, flechette orb, few others

[coral crest]

Technically latest one was NOKKO, but his weapon projectiles are not damaging ones

[novel bear]

No, he’s only affected by crit buffs I think

[coral crest]

No-no

[fallen ermine]

Nokko ones counted as ability that can crit

[mighty flare]

oh my

[fallen ermine]

Like ulfrun descent ish ?

[coral crest]

His 4 has crit chance so it's affected by crit bonuses and that's it, it's not a weapon projectile

But his 1 and 2 are spawned from a projectile that is weapon coded

[novel bear]

Oh, like how qorvex can’t use the subsume

[coral crest]

Yep, exactly

[novel bear]

Got it

[fallen ermine]

What subsume ?

[coral crest]

Brightbonnet

[fallen ermine]

Whar 🥀

[novel bear]

Qorvex’s passive makes it go through floors

[coral crest]

Qorvex can't properly use it because the initial projectile is weapon coded

[fallen ermine]

Oh my god < it clicked in

[ornate echo]

what's everyones favorite build rn

go, any weapon or warframe

[coral crest]

@fallen ermine

[fallen ermine]

Bro thats why.. i thought it was just bugged 🥀

[coral crest]

It just flies through anything that can be punched through

[fallen ermine]

I know i ran 1 https://youtu.be/QsXkwdz725c?si=dEHLy3j1ChzT-wvR

[coral crest]

Oh shit it was you

Huge fan

Geniunely

But yeah that's why it happens

[fallen ermine]

Thought i was tripping when the shroom fall off a platform

[coral crest]

Nokko not only did Qorvex playstyle better

[fallen ermine]

😭

[coral crest]

But also made sure that Qorvex himself couldn't use his subsume

[coral crest]

Also seriously, great content

Been subscribed for a while

[civic apex]

I'm still gonna use the nuclear concrete over the super shroom. Just cause I prefer his vibe

[coral crest]

That's valid

[fallen ermine]

I am just lurking here every now and then to see what can i cope with next

Now i shall return

[coral crest]

We do not cope

We use it and feel good about it

[fallen ermine]

🗣️ 🗣️

[civic apex]

There is no coping here

[coral crest]

Those who say "cope builds" are weak

We can do better than that

We will run Qorvex in cascade

[frail quail]

Ive just come back from not playing for a while so im still just switching alot, mainly xaku and mesa

[mighty flare]

neither of those are particularly good for eidolons
mesa is the better of the 2 for eidos

[frail quail]

Who is good for them? I see a few people using volt and i have him

[mighty flare]

top picks be volt, jade, nova
then decent picks be like mirage, rhino, trinity, oberon, chroma, etc

a lot of frames will "work" but not particularly great

[frail quail]

ah ok, i have volt and chroma

[mighty flare]

volt would be the best

[frail quail]

do you have a build for him?

[mighty flare]

1sec

[mighty flare]

subsume over 4 for eclipse
open slots for all 3 umbral mods or adaptation/vitality + umbral intensify
open arcane for energize or weapon platform arcane
aura is corrosive projection
exilus is preparation or power drift

[frail quail]

alright, got it. thanks a bunch

[civic apex]

I will take whatever I want. And find the worst possible way to make it work

[gaunt sapphire]

anyone got any good ivara prime builds? like stuff that will work in sp if possible

cuz i jus got her and i wanna play my jellyfish

also, does the kuva chakkhurr work well with ivara?

[marble moat]

This a good Mirage build?

[gaunt sapphire]

if you run the hush mod on your weapons, are you just allowed to freely attack in ivara's prowl?

[hard dove]

Besides intensify and low rank arcanes yes

[sinful bone]

I'd disagree

[hard dove]

This is a nuke build

For ESO and stuff

[sinful bone]

why continuity then

mb

[hard dove]

Explosive ledgermain apply a whole bunch of status

So that's why there's like 4 archon mods here

Archon flow is debatable tho

[marble moat]

I use it for passive energy regen

Wait no

I think I forgot

[hard dove]

Also you should probably use a better lens at this point cuz this is a nuke build

Also you have stretch already for energy

[hard dove]

Also you could just use unranked archon vit and use umbral intensify instead

Oh and roar subsume

[forest jetty]

Mostly. However, enemies might still alert to your presence if any are left alive to notice their fallen comrades, and you still don’t want to tap the Sensor Regulator types of enemies. But, Hush/Suppress/Silent Battery modded weapons don’t break/disrupt Prowl stealth.

[sinful bone]

why trigger all of that when 80% of it's virtually useless to her though
might as well free up some mod cap with the primed variants instead if they have those

like besides arch stretch, why bother

[hard dove]

Archon stretch gives energy
Archon continuity apply toxin on corrosive proc
Archon vit double fire status so more dmg
I actually forgot what archon flow do just remember it about cold proc or something

Energy orb on cold ability kill not bad for this build ig

[sinful bone]

idk I'd have to see it in action to know if that works

I've always seen mirage nuke as something for very low level

[hard dove]

Well yeah i did say this is ESO nuke

Prism nuke is the way to go for SP nuke

[sinful bone]

hmm

[rare stag]

whats the best companion rn for qol?

nautilus for the grouping?

[analog stirrup]

Diriga or hounds

[wintry olive]

hello i want to ask does 482 strength on wisp is overkill or completly normal?

full red archon shard

[analog stirrup]

Overkill? Yes... Is it a problem? No

[wintry olive]

because should i change the archon shard to 2 yellow and 3 red

or nah

[analog stirrup]

Anything over 300 power on her is unnecessary but if you can live with the downsides... Its fine

[gray iris]

are you building that much strength for her 1st?

[analog stirrup]

I like using 1 casting speed and 1 parkour shards, the other 3 are whatever

[wintry olive]

yeah also roar buff

[hexed sundial]

pretty normal

but you need some energy sustain

other than that ur prob fine

wisp gets free invincibility

[wintry olive]

i use archon stretch and arcane energizer since i dont have caspacular

[brisk gyro]

overkill, not realy. With the current mods, acranes and subsumes u can use u can have way more. Im usualy runnig a ~782% str wisp (i have a 900% version but i dont want to use her since its + energy conversion, hema reload for archon strength etc.... to much work)

[hexed sundial]

if you don't have any energy problems then ur fine

[hasty hazel]

what is the best amp combo or at least a decent one

[hard dove]

General/last gasp use 146 or 546
Eidolon 177 or 577
547 is also good for general use

[hasty hazel]

thank you

[tawdry cargo]

how good would this be?

[fresh surge]

547*

[fathom sky]

Nah 546 would be better for Last Gasp because it lets you shoot out a lot more disks, but I would just make 547 atp

[fresh surge]

yea maybe but i dont think making an amp jusr for last gasp is worth it

[fathom sky]

Hence my "just make 547"

Because you use that for other things anyway

[hard dove]

Amp is piss easy to make anyway

You can make and gild like 5 amp in a day in probably 2-3hr

[fathom sky]

The Toroids are a pain to farm for so I'd rather make as few as possible, thanks

[solar reef]

i like 177 for everything

[rocky cloud]

Best nokko build, jus got don’t building him

[pallid plaza]

I have a Coda Synapse with 31.4 and Eleanor is selling a synapse at 43.7. How do i calculate the final amount of fusing the two?

[frigid ibex]

I just built protea prime what does she benefit from the most? Strength? Duration? HP?

[solar reef]

guesstimate

[coral crest]

It just multiplies highest weapon's percentage by 1.1

Anything that reaches 58 is rounded to 60

[pallid plaza]

So not worth the buy. i should just wait for a 51 % er

[coral crest]

60% Coda Tysis in Eleanor's shop btw

Absolutely fantastic single target weapon

[coral crest]

Bassocyst is pretty much the only one worth buying at lower percentage

It was never sold at a high enough roll

[mighty flare]

subsumeless is fine, breach surge is other good option
subsume can be 1 or 3

[tender forge]

Na Go Tempest Barrage

become the storm

[pastel igloo]

sacrifice or guardian?

i shield gate anyway so im thinking sacrifice would be better but i dunno

[fervent lynx]

if I combine a base damage mod with a arcane that can give me base damage will they stack or will it diminish the dps

[midnight horizon]

Diminish dps.

Say your weapon deals 100 damage with absolutely nothing. Using a serration (+165%) results in 265 damage, which is a +165% dps increase. But after that, if you use primary merciless (+360%) it results in 625 damage, which is only +135.8% dps increase from the previous 265 and NOT a +360%

[fervent lynx]

okay so if I'm using a arcane that does damage on stacks just focus on crit or status on the mods but if I don't use a arcane that does damage then I can add a base damage mod then right

[midnight horizon]

Yes. Absolutely

As I like to say: "invest in as many unique multipliers as possible, equally."

Sometimes some multipliers do multiple dips, like roar on DoTs, so you invest in those types of multipliers more than the rest

[fervent lynx]

okay good to know thanks but also what playstyle is better weapon platform or melee?

[midnight horizon]

Melee is technically also weapon platform, just with melee.

I do like melee weapon platform. And the most trusted builder here said melees are the metas for dps right now

Actually, secondaries. Then melees.

[fervent lynx]

okay good to know then cause right now I am mostly using kullervo but I am trying out all of the frames for mastery xp but I am definitly loving melee frames

well thanks for the advice zany and I hope you have a good day

[carmine dew]

this is kinda like saying "which taste is better, savoury or sweet"

like, well...

gun to my head I would say something like, melee platforms are generally better than gun platforms, but the best gun platforms are better than the best melee platforms

[fervent lynx]

yay that's fair I'm sorry if I asked that question

[undone dust]

guardian, sacrifice is a crappy revive

[lethal bison]

how is this harrow build gang? shards are 2 casting speed, 2 duration, 1 corrosive stacks

[dapper mantle]

im new to warframe n just tried to get first riven mod. I was wondering how much is this mod if I don’t reroll it? Just want to sold the fresh one

Thank you

[silent marlin]

The dice maiden i here

[grave cloak]

Seems okay but why do you need archon stretch on harrow

[grave cloak]

Worth 1 small fish, nothing more

[near vortex]

Might be running a companion that can proc it

[grave cloak]

I mean... Even still this is harrow we're talking about

His 3 gives infinite energy already

[near vortex]

Yeah you right actually

I played a lot of Harrow this morning for void fissures

I have a config for speedrunning fissures with infinite energy

[solar reef]

i dont even use his 1 half the time so theres nothing to build range for

[old marsh]

Not a lot. Only the top tier weapon rivens with good disposition sell for a lot. Keep it for yourself. Acceltra is a good weapon in Gauss’s hands.

[solar reef]

acceltras sell high because its a noobie trap

I wouldnt suggest they keep it for themselves since its just a kuva sinc that will perform wirse than a regular mod will

[old marsh]

good luck spamming in TC for 30 minutes and hoping someone catches the bait

[solar reef]

get rid of that thing as soon as possible

[grave cloak]

It's an okay weapon tbh, rolled it for last week's ETA. My only complain is that it runs out of ammo way too fast.

[old marsh]

Energized munitions in Gauss’s hands makes it really good.

[solar reef]

even an unroll/trash roll can sell for a quick 10-20 plat

[old marsh]

Otherwise it’s “ok-ish”

[solar reef]

its a mediocre weapon as a whole, just dont fall into the riven trap

[grave cloak]

Tbh a lot of the kuva weapons heavily limited by ammo max (k.ogris and k.bramma for example) could really use a balance pass

[solar reef]

.55 dispo prime .65 dispo base

[old marsh]

Ye. I have Ogris riven. Rolled it with max ammo increase. More comfy to use

[grave cloak]

There's no reason these weapons should be arbitrary limited by max ammo when I can take a latron incarnon and refill 40 explosive rounds every 10s, unlimited times

[old marsh]

Despite the low dispo, it’s slightly better than the max ammo mod. Plus the extra stat I needed

[old marsh]

Imagine if DE added a mechanic to have only 3 Incarnon charges per mission

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[grave cloak]

Torid abusers in shambles

[old marsh]

Then Incarnoff weapons will become meta lol

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[tender forge]

Incarnon warframe built like a Void angel (Mech form ultimate)

[lethal bison]

diriga procs it

[solar reef]

on some weapons

[tender forge]

Diabolocal

[sinful bone]

any augments that are good for Rhino?

[tender forge]

....(All).....

[near vortex]

Onos, Atomos and Felarx stonks

[sinful bone]

as in... have them all on your build?

[tender forge]

step 1. play rhino
step 2. become good at rhino
step 3. play with subsume and augments

[sinful bone]

;-;

ty ig

[hexed sundial]

rhino doesn't need any augments tbh

he's strong enough as is

[sinful bone]

okay, ty

[hexed sundial]

just slap nourish over his 1 and boom z tier warframe

[carmine dew]

this would dumpster most incarnons lol

[prisma spindle]

What’s a good Dragon Nikana build for endgame SP

[old marsh]

I like using Reinforcing Stomp. Keeps your OG topped off.

[old marsh]

That’s the plan Absolute Cinema. Community in shambles. DE needs to do it in April 1 and then revert it

[blissful knoll]

Not based enough, thermal sunder rhino

Roar messing with thermal sunder scaling formula is peak

[junior smelt]

Does anyone have a good valkyr build that can do like big big big damage for steel path?

[old marsh]

Subsume Rhino on her 1 or 3. Whichever u like less.

[junior smelt]

What are those arcanes

[old marsh]

Battery & Fury

[junior smelt]

Ty

[old marsh]

U can use strike instead of battery but she gets plenty of attack speed from her 2

[junior smelt]

Ty

[solar sequoia]

I got a skana incarnon, which version should I use it on? base, prisma or prime? I dont have prime yet so if prime's the best I will consider trading at a later time

[frosty fjord]

prime you can’t get cus its founders pack exclusive, prisma is the better one of the 2 you can get afaik

[solar sequoia]

Wait skana prime is founders exclusive? I didn't know that

[frosty fjord]

yeah excal/lato/skana prime are founders exclusive and if you didn’t get them back then you can’t get them anymore

[solar sequoia]

Ohhhhhhhh i see then!
Well then, guess that makes what to pick clear then, thank you 🙏

[drifting hare]

Hey what guide would you guys recommend I watch tk learn how to build?

[brisk gyro]

When you want guides, from the youtubers I see i personaly like WarframeFlo I do like and mostly agree with his opinions on builds

1 video i realy like to share that explains the dmg calculation that u know how weapon dmg works but not building is this
https://youtu.be/P5oFikgqBcg?si=1rM_dO07pagfCCDJ

[fallen ermine]

Always check wiki and use dmg calc

[drifting hare]

Oh thanks alot

[drifting hare]

Dmg calc?

[fallen ermine]

Damage calculator to test your modding ttk dps burst etc

[brisk gyro]

U mean this one?
https://warframe-damage.com/

[drifting hare]

Ohhh alr thanks

[fallen ermine]

Yea any kinds, excell or web

[old marsh]

Also what makes Prisma better is that it has WAY higher Incarnon stats than Prime (imagine +25% vs +4% )

By default u wanna pick the prime if it’s available with certain exceptions. Thankfully you can uninstall Incarnon from one into another. Just in case you made a mistake.

[solar sequoia]

What the helly how the hell is that so low 🥀

[solar sequoia]

good rule of thumb to know, tks

[old marsh]

Prime’s base stats were better but with Incarnon, your stats on normal or Prisma versions surpass it. By a strong margin.

[true agate]

Anyone got a full profit taker build? Or can point me to one

[viral hawk]

anyone got any beginer build for xaku prime

[tawdry zealot]

which one is better?

[plush root]

2nd

[tawdry zealot]

which is that

[brisk gyro]

I personaly like the first more although overall 2nd one is better

[plush root]

The right one

[brisk gyro]

You could argue that the 41% less faction dmg to grinder would be a disadvantage if u look at 1999

[plush root]

For most rivens you want the pork and beans of Critical damage , Multi Shot , toxin , fire rate , critical chance

[brisk gyro]

Yea u could argue that the crit dmg is better since its harder to get crit dmg but imo with the first riven u dont need a dmg arcane and u can use sth for utility

[plush root]

lol

[tawdry zealot]

yeah that's my understanding, but 0.6x to grineer and lower crit chance is why im asking

[abstract axle]

the main argument against the right riven is that status is dissapointing, especially on the lex

[fallen ermine]

-grin its joever 😔

[rare stag]

is light attack blood rush still viable?

[brisk gyro]

Especialy on lex? I mean status wise it's good lex has normal 25% and 44% in incarnon form

[fallen ermine]

Only influence ones, raw no (maybe for base sp weak mobs)

[clear crest]

guys can we oneshot archons again? i saw a tiktok and i need to know

[chrome badge]

ye

[clear crest]

howw???

[chrome badge]

well its more like 2 shot for obvi reasons

[undone dust]

same way as we always have been able to, zephyr

[chrome badge]

damage. alot of it

[undone dust]

i've gotten felarx to one shot as of late so that's an idea

[abstract axle]

status is just less damage than most of the esirable stats

[clear crest]

do i need a specific frame? like zephyr only or any frames is fine?

[undone dust]

zephyr is just the easiest example

[brisk gyro]

Can't argue with that..... even more since lex is not realy a status weapon

[undone dust]

but felarx can just do it with priming and xatas

[clear crest]

ahh i see

[clear crest]

do u hv a build i can try?

[undone dust]

for felarx?

[clear crest]

yeaa

[undone dust]

arcane is deadhead

[clear crest]

thank youu

[undone dust]

probably not the best build ever but it works for me

[clear crest]

alright thankss

[undone dust]

np

[deep edge]

is it true that using hush/suppress will cause enemy to aggro you less in loud missions?

[valid crescent]

Need help on a boltot riven - what’s better 1. (+ mag cap, status chance and multishot) or 2. ( + puncture, cold ammo cap but - status duration) ?

[deep grotto]

I think @cyan star knows the riven lore
I can’t remember what the ideal stats for a boltor is
But tbh -status duration sucks on basically anything

[gray quarry]

1

[cyan star]

Yeah the first one by a mile

[gray quarry]

2 has pretty much nothing to help

[cyan star]

And also is just bad cuz -sd

+punc ruins your elemental weighting
+ammo doesn’t effect incarnon form
+cold is fine ig
-sd really bad

First one is still pretty eh but it’s better than that one

[gray quarry]

Tbh on most weapons I don’t see how -sd would hurt it

Only ones I see it hurting is primers

[cyan star]

Completely guts your elemental damage if it’s based on dots

Corro and Viral also wouldn’t stay for long with it

[gray quarry]

Ah true

[cyan star]

It’s just not good, ever

One of the more harmful negatives that isn’t just -dmg really

[sacred sapphire]

Anyone got suggestions on one shotting eximus sp grineer with Nataruk? after a lot of testing i can only do 2 shot kills with it and with nataruk's quick shot headshots instead of perfect shot because of the headshot multiplier

[gray quarry]

-dmg is my favorite riven

[cyan star]

I would not be running that riven personally

[sacred sapphire]

even replacing it i dont see much difference

[cyan star]

If you swapped it for critical delay you have 3x the cc

[sacred sapphire]

not enough to be impactful

[gray quarry]

Swap riv for crit delay, run viral

[sacred sapphire]

ive been trying everything

[cyan star]

That riven is just directly worse than running critical delay

70% cc vs 200%

[sacred sapphire]

yeah

[gray quarry]

Oh that’s an acuity build

[lunar gale]

can someone explain to me what's up with venato prime ? does it's trait work on ANYTHING that applies status ? cause it's making my abilities apply tau

[sacred sapphire]

yep, had more luck with it instead of ms

[midnight horizon]

-# Imagine aiming at weakpoints in a horde game 🥀

[lunar gale]

ocucor supremacy

[midnight horizon]

Ong

[sacred sapphire]

this is for sniping grineer 🥺

[gray quarry]

Ms is honestly miles better than acuity from my testing(I tried acuity on maybe 2 weapons and both of which sucked)

[midnight horizon]

It's ok, we don't judge you
-# judge you enough

[lunar gale]

acuity is bait

[sacred sapphire]

cant get it to work for one shot

[cyan star]

It’s only particularly noticeable on things with multiplicative effects

[gray quarry]

Then maybe try ms

[sacred sapphire]

plus it gets spread making it inconsistent even when it would be better

[cyan star]

Epitaph with acuity and like 2 other mods can 1 shot 165 heavies

[midnight horizon]

Back when acuity lets me do damagecap per hit on epitaph was some silly fun. That's it tho

[sacred sapphire]

meant "cant get it to work for one shot" with ms

[cyan star]

It’s still very disgusting on epitaph if you want to make it for that instead of being a primer

[sacred sapphire]

sometimes with acuity it does

[midnight horizon]

They removed it being multiplicative cc tho, I'm good

[cyan star]

It still basically 1 shots 165’s with 3 mods on it

It’s doing fine

[midnight horizon]

Cool. But I main melees

[cyan star]

Acuity Chakk and Stahlta are fun

Plinx can also do some silly numbers with it

[sacred sapphire]

with that its 2-3 hits

yeah crit delay is def better, and viral is worse

would longbow sharpshot work? i dont have enough of them to test

[chrome badge]

wheres your fire rate mod

[sacred sapphire]

i dont need firerate

quick shot is better than perfect shot

[chrome badge]

i don't think thats true but then again i never use nataruk

[sacred sapphire]

the problem is there's no headshot multiplier for charged shot but there is for quick shot

[chrome badge]

ahhh

[sacred sapphire]

yea i can get tier 2 crits with perfect shot but its less dmg

and only orange with quick shot

[chrome badge]

yeah no quick shot ftw

[severe bough]

Is that acuity nataruk

[sacred sapphire]

this build is so close to one shot i dont know what i can do

[sacred sapphire]

yes

ms just worse for this

[chrome badge]

replace malignant with full toxin?

[severe bough]

Def not, also gunCO is multi on nataruk perfect shots

[chrome badge]

if thats the case scrap this acuity build

[sacred sapphire]

it is, ive been trying to make ms work but its just way too incosistent and less damage even when it all hits

perfect shots suck for what im triyng to do

one shot grineer eximus on sp

[sacred sapphire]

yeah slightly better, but barely affects it

[midnight horizon]

Best nataruk build for multi shot/crit and for someone impatient who doesn’t wanna have to constantly hit headshots only?

[sacred sapphire]

except im not trying to do that, im trying to hit headshots consistently for sp grineer eximus on plains of eidolon

[severe bough]

https://overframe.gg/build/279221/nataruk/nataruk-bones-of-the-sentient-electric-heat-gas-variations-updated-2025/

[chrome badge]

but why tho, leveling with cetus eximus is still perfectly fine with non sp

[sacred sapphire]

because i want to do that and build my nataruk this way

i'd do ms if it actually worked good

[chrome badge]

well then why not use a better weapon with higher damage like rubico prime or smth

[severe bough]

Your using viral priming?

[chrome badge]

not higher damage

[quiet laurel]

skibidi sigma

[severe bough]

Sigma skibidi

[quiet laurel]

what are we yapping about

[severe bough]

Acuity nataruk

[sacred sapphire]

because im building nataruk for this?

[sacred sapphire]

im sniping out of stealth cant prime

[midnight horizon]

I have 8 planets done in steel path, & very end game. I need a build that absolutely f**ks.

[quiet laurel]

oh hell nah

[chrome badge]

indeed

[quiet laurel]

acuity on projectile weapons that arent bows after acuity nerf

das crazy

[chrome badge]

nataruk is a bow?

[sacred sapphire]

because everything else i've tried is worse

[severe bough]

Zu crazy man

[quiet laurel]

are we fr

[severe bough]

What da duck

[chrome badge]

or is it classified as a rifle?

[sacred sapphire]

aoe bow

[severe bough]

For what u even wanna use it

[sacred sapphire]

one shotting eximus sp grineer

[severe bough]

The lvl Mission?

Cetus

[quiet laurel]

does this look like a rifle or a grenade launcher

[sacred sapphire]

plains of eidolon

[severe bough]

Frame thingi

[sacred sapphire]

yea cetus that

[chrome badge]

staff

[quiet laurel]

not AoE either, just big projectile

[sacred sapphire]

i couldnt find any build for it but its definitely possible, as im very close to it

its aoe

or wait

[severe bough]

ye tbf if your planning on lvl frame just use normal plains

[sacred sapphire]

whole time its big?

[chrome badge]

atp just use that new primed bow

[sacred sapphire]

ok but i want to use it on sp cetus

[chrome badge]

yeah its like a blast instead of a single projectile

[gray quarry]

It looks like a sword

[severe bough]

For actually missions or lvl frames

[sacred sapphire]

either way quick shot is not aoe

[midnight horizon]

are there any adults here who can help w nataruk build for Temporal Archimedea missions and the last 3 planets on steel path? need high multishot, high crit, and struggling to figure out best status effect to use.

[severe bough]

Look through the ninjase build

[chrome badge]

adults is crazy

[sacred sapphire]

yeah the ninjase build is good for that

[midnight horizon]

this is crazy

[gray quarry]

Nah we’re all children

[quiet laurel]

AoE for weapons means explosions, big projectile isnt AoE
this is important because of CO

[midnight horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/whhyyyy-vanish-vanish-emoji-emoji-vanish-whhhyyyy-gif-10057259719602444514

[chrome badge]

uhhhhh im a several millenia old paradox

[severe bough]

If just wanna lvl your frames use smth like this u dont need sp for that execpt your wanna lose your sanity

Tbf u dont even need mods

Just shot high in the sky

[sacred sapphire]

i know im not trying to just do non sp ive been doing that for ages yea ou dont need anyhting

but im here to try to build for sp

[chrome badge]

wait why not use daikyu prime?

[sacred sapphire]

because im using nataruk

[chrome badge]

L

hop on daikyu prime

[severe bough]

Then use an normal viral heat setup or coro if u got outside source viral. And use ms its def better since acuity got destroyed

Just need to Build up stacks

[sacred sapphire]

i tired that

it sucks ass

[chrome badge]

mutalist cernos

[severe bough]

Dont like simu examples that much because they dont mirror the real missions but just to showcase acuity is actually ass

The builds are the exact same execpt i swapped gchamber for acuity and the only thing thats on my wisp is external fire rate

[grave cloak]

viral heat on nataruk is certainly a choice

[crimson osprey]

Hey, so hildryn.. ive seen people suggest more shields via archon shards is the way to go because they boost damage... is that true? or should i go with red shards?

[true agate]

Anyone got a full profit taker build? Or can point me to one

[carmine dew]

blue shards on hildryn isnt really that good because they dont affect her base shields

[old marsh]

Nah. Just put in yellow shards & red shard if u wanna hit 82% armor strip with corrosive proj

[carmine dew]

the additional shields you get from blue shards apply after your shield mods

[crimson osprey]

so i was right, just go with red shards- thanks

[old marsh]

Have atleast 1 parkour speed shard. Faster dash in her 4

[crimson osprey]

i have 2 tauforged casting speed shards, and 3 tauforged red

someone told me 2

+okina prime incarnon adds 30% movement speed

[grave cloak]

definitely not true

[haughty moon]

Left or right?

[grave cloak]

doesn't matter both rolls are dead on arrival

[haughty moon]

Wdym?

[crimson osprey]

Care to add to that statement?

[grave cloak]

both rolls are crap

[grave cloak]

the blue shards only add on after any shield related mods

[haughty moon]

What should you go for with a Ghoulsaw Riven, then?

[sacred sapphire]

quick shot is the better way to shoot with acuity

that video doesnt understand the weapon

and im testing in cetus, actual mission in the use case im making it for

[grave cloak]

in no particular order (except cd being the highest value) it will be cd/cc/range/sc/electricity/as

[severe bough]

Only heat/elc would probably be better but was to lazy to prime

[severe bough]

Look on the pt dc

[true agate]

What is it?

[old marsh]

Bad weapon. Unfortunately

[haughty moon]

I'm using it with Valkyr

[severe bough]

Profit taker discord

[severe bough]

Quick shot nataruk holy

[sacred sapphire]

it works better.. ive been trying for hours and perfect shot is just higher crit tier with less dmg

[severe bough]

Either way ms just better and you lose on multi gunCO when u not perfect shot in that case just use smth else tbf

[sacred sapphire]

ms has spread

i cant use it from being in the air

and even if all hit, its less damage

[true agate]

Thank you

[severe bough]

Why u wanna quick shot with nataruk from the air in the first place..

[sacred sapphire]

cause i want to? why use any frame except revenant? why use any weapon besides torid?

[severe bough]

Theres also a volt setup but i dont know about it ( speedrunning setup ) if u want that just ask in the dc

[spare apex]

hey they fixed the primary acuity bug right, is it any good on any weapons still?

[undone dust]

a few

[spare apex]

ok with the bug being fixed i basically want it as my only damage mod,so no serration, semi-canonade, or deadhead right?

god i wish they could make the elemental, ips, and flat damage mods standardized

[grave cloak]

because revenant doesn't have any tools in his kit to actually deal damage
because torid is only good at crowd clearing and not for single target damage.

I'd much rather have an actual weapons platform like saryn mirage or rhino when dealing with level cap demolishers

[undone dust]

are we talking about weapon damage because he can actually deal damage himself

[grave cloak]

yeah weapon damage mostly
ability damage aren't really poggers against demos since y'know nullifiers

[undone dust]

true..

i wish thralls didnt suck because thrall pact is a nice augment

[crimson osprey]

hot take; primed sure footed is a waste, and most other options are better

[civic apex]

I'll support that take honestly

But on a variable level I won't call it a waste

Just not to my taste. But if you have everything you need in your build, and you really don't appreciate getting rag dolled. Then go for it.

[severe bough]

Just jump around a lot and dont get rag dolled

[civic apex]

Works well with blitz. Not so much with arsonist

[severe bough]

[civic apex]

But honestly that's still one type of eximus and at least on star chart... isn't that big of a threat.

I can't speak on steel path as I've never played on it.

[grave cloak]

It's an exilus mod to be fair. And most exilus mods are meant to be QoL mods and therefore shouldn't make or break your builds.

[quiet laurel]

psf haters when their favorite in game activity is wiping the floor with their face

[grave cloak]

just don't ask why tennokai mods are also exilus mods