builds-discussion

[quiet laurel]

I mean yeah but sobek has many things going on, was just confused since you only said sobek aoe and havent mentioned toxic lash in the first message

[short mauve]

i mean i use her yeah know her somewhat but my doubt is what is a nice base element for the sobek

[carmine dew]

basically the deal is that the toxin mods increase her 4's dot

because they're coming from the weapon

it's kind of confusing but that's how it works

[short mauve]

ok SO.. then.. what is the best way to get the kuva sobek.. with toxic on it..? or electric on it?

[carmine dew]

with cold

[short mauve]

thats my principal problem

[carmine dew]

cold progenitor sobek

mod with toxin mods

[quiet laurel]

what do other elemental modifiers do for toxic lash though, cause toxic lash is just toxin

[short mauve]

.. with cold? many tell me or electric.. or any diferent one

[carmine dew]

like i said its complicated and most people legit just dont know how it works but the deal is that

you want to put toxin mods no matter what because that is your DoT explosion damage

but you also need cold to get viral

[short mauve]

i mean ofc too lol yeah. OH DAMN I NOTICED THE LEFT ONE HAS COLD

[carmine dew]

you can either mod cold or use a cold progen

[short mauve]

🥀

[carmine dew]

The Progenitor type is completely optional since it DOESN'T affect [Acid Shells] or Toxic Lash. You could do MAGNETIC which is the most flexible element (allows you to run all elemental combos for any use case particularly if you plan on using it outside of Saryn/Oraxia/Cyte) or COLD (allows you to make viral with just Toxin mods for Saryn/Oraxia or magnetic with just electric mods/violet shards which is good for Cyte).

[quiet laurel]

which frame are we talking rn cause its different for the big 3

[short mauve]

oraxia

[carmine dew]

yeah, oraxia works the same as saryn in this case

just mentally replace 'toxic lash' with 'silken stride'

[short mauve]

words by ninjase the goat than carryed my ass on all builds

[quiet laurel]

for oraxia you can also outsource viral and go elec for corrosive

[velvet pulsar]

Elemental Vice

[quiet laurel]

saryn doesnt have this option cause she also has corrosive

actually yeah I rember, just subsume nourish and go elec progen

since you cant roar on oraxia

[short mauve]

tbf why need roar when you get a 200+% damage on toxic

[worldly vector]

guys im honestly between these two, which one should I go for?? i like the toxin, - recoil and + dmg but the slash, crit chance and fire rate is so enticing

[short mauve]

that is just crazy ngl

[carmine dew]

on saryn its because her 4 is pretty mid

and also roar triple dips on the dot

[short mauve]

someone respond this man [i have 0 knowlege]

[quiet laurel]

would say left but both seem kinda eh

at least left frees up a mod slot and gives free dmg

[short mauve]

toxic lash?

[velvet pulsar]

Burston already has Gilded Truth so none
But if u really wanna pick one, left

[solar reef]

+slash imo kills it

[carmine dew]

toxic lash and silken stride work the same way in terms of how they interact with sobek acid shells

[solar reef]

both are mid

[carmine dew]

i.e. when the acid shells aoe goes off, the DoT is applied to everyone caught in it

[worldly vector]

hmmm thats true

[velvet pulsar]

@carmine dew yo a question

[carmine dew]

yeah what up

[short mauve]

mhh i see so so.. at the end of all...... what base element you recomend me more? for sobek

[worldly vector]

thats also kinda true although i liked the slash for nekros loot

[quiet laurel]

elec

or magnetic, up to you tbh

[carmine dew]

imo cold, but elec is possible, though you wont be able to use it with saryn

[solar reef]

iirc thats is based on base stat slash %

[carmine dew]

magnetic is always a choice for any waepon if you cant decide though lol

but not toxin, that's a waste

[solar reef]

So your base slash would have to make up 50% or more of your ips

[worldly vector]

its burston prime so i have 18.4 slash base

[velvet pulsar]

Let's say, hypothetically, if gas turns out to quadruple dip faction bonus from acid shells in future, will it immediately overthrow any other element?

[solar reef]

adding slash will not change that

for calculating with nekros

unless i’m just mistaken, its just your base

[worldly vector]

ohh okay

[solar reef]

could be wrong though

[velvet pulsar]

@carmine dew

[worldly vector]

ive been dumping kuva into this riven and its really really really stubborn with me

[carmine dew]

hmm

[quiet laurel]

its kind of a bummer that the 3 big sobek users are so picky with the element and what they can and cant run
elec is usable for 2 while viral is a must for at least 1 so thats why elec imo

[carmine dew]

youd have to bust out the calculators but since this isnt currently the case for e.g. lavos with valence

[quiet laurel]

both oraxia and cyte run nourish so elec opens up the path for corrosive

[carmine dew]

🤷‍♂️

[short mauve]

really good to know such... mhhh... then cold is the best for those 2 no? i say it because cough [i feel so toxic]

[carmine dew]

for nokko?

[short mauve]

for oraxia nokko i use the bow

[quiet laurel]

nokko new sobek abuser tech

[short mauve]

for nokko i use proboscis cernos

[velvet pulsar]

Ur equation, just faction dips another time

[short mauve]

LMFAOO

[carmine dew]

ninjases tech is also cold for cyte but to mix to make magnetic

which ig makes sense? cus youre using your elec resupply

[velvet pulsar]

Probably even status dmg but that's a long shot

[quiet laurel]

it also depends what content you do

[carmine dew]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-tapping-chin-taps-chin-scratch-chin-skeleton-stupid-gif-8013789921192244673

[short mauve]

.. then the most flexible one than dont needs... welll ANYONE. on especific?

[carmine dew]

tldr I think it boils down to

[quiet laurel]

if you fight lots of overguard magnetic makes a lot of sense and the logical weighting increases

unfortunately with sobek there is no black on white answer

[carmine dew]

magnetic: works on everyone, ez brain off option
cold: best for saryn, works on cyte and oraxia
elec: best for oraxia, works on cyte but not on saryn

[short mauve]

and i hate it im tweaking out to be fair

[velvet pulsar]

Does any sobek user has difficulty with triggering acid shells?

[carmine dew]

for cyte its dependent on whether magnetic (cold) or corrosive (elec) would be better for what content you are doing

[short mauve]

.. im gona sound bias. but oraxia feels alot more simple to play than oraxia that adds a bonus

[carmine dew]

oraxia more simple than oraxia?

[short mauve]

THAN SARYN

[quiet laurel]

agree

[short mauve]

oh my god bro.... MY BRAIN IS ROTING with sobek

[quiet laurel]

so where is saryn now

[carmine dew]

I reckon saryn's easier but ig its subjective

[quiet laurel]

oraxia easier than saryn or saryn easier than oraxia

[short mauve]

oraxia

[velvet pulsar]

As in...
Sobek shotgun pellets having difficulty with lvl cap killing?

[carmine dew]

nah

[quiet laurel]

I am soon to crash out with you

[short mauve]

gulp

[carmine dew]

the amount of damage these toxic lash shenanigans do at cap is kind of silly

[velvet pulsar]

Then there's one less flexible option out

[quiet laurel]

depends on range but usually no

[velvet pulsar]

Coz I had heat inherit abuse in mind to trigger acid shells without letting sobek kill enemies

[quiet laurel]

if you wall hack sobek with cyte you also want the +accuracy -reload corrupted mod

[short mauve]

i mean it on the way of survivality and all that

[carmine dew]

i find spamming 2 on saryn is easier but if you find oraxia easier thats chill

[short mauve]

to be fair i have to test saryn..

[carmine dew]

ngl though sobek mechanics are kind of dense so

[quiet laurel]

saryn has the huge buff of her 1 augment also counting as +toxin %

[carmine dew]

dw if you find this confusing because ninjase had to test this for ages 😭

blast xata probably the only interaction thats more convoluted

[quiet laurel]

cant wait for DE to rework acid shells in the future cause "too confusing" and just make the mod unusable

[velvet pulsar]

Cyte sobek wall hacking isn't gonna be as much popular as toxocyst wall hacking

[quiet laurel]

much higher kpm tho

[velvet pulsar]

Gas fix may spark this

[short mauve]

💔 im dead ass getting the most complicated units on the game nokko atleast makes me happy

[velvet pulsar]

DE isn't gonna be happy if gas gets fixed

[quiet laurel]

you had confirmation from the community team right?

[velvet pulsar]

It's gonna give flashbacks of influence ichor

[carmine dew]

wait are these the only frames you have

[patent igloo]

gauss with xata's whisper 🤑

[short mauve]

yes.

[fierce egret]

Negative strength does some wild things in warframe

[carmine dew]

i see you went straight into the sweater frames minute 0

[quiet laurel]

probs completely unknowing of what he got himself into

[carmine dew]

but dw at least it isnt as annoying as the ogris

[short mauve]

HEY NO NO WRONG! i like spidders! AND... and.. nokko is funny. he is my live

[carmine dew]

because that thing genuinely does need two different progens because the saryn ogris doesnt work at all on mirage and vice versa

[short mauve]

nokko top 1 [totally fake for sure but i will always protect him]

[velvet pulsar]

They're all toxic frames except the poster boi

[carmine dew]

nokkos pretty fun tbh

[tall kiln]

lmao

[short mauve]

simple and fun thats what matters 🗣️ 🔥

[carmine dew]

im a bit of an oraxia hater because her farm sucked ass when she was new and shes not very original

[quiet laurel]

would have been funny if he got cyte as well, then he really had the big 3

[short mauve]

LMFAO

[quiet laurel]

for multi dipping at least

[velvet pulsar]

*Toxin

[carmine dew]

cyte, oraxia, saryn, mirage

long ago, the four metaqueens lived in harmony

[quiet laurel]

she is just saryn at home

[carmine dew]

that all changed when the saryn nation attacked....

[short mauve]

atleast i have almost completed the build of my mushroom boy

[carmine dew]

yeah that was my problem really

isleweaver in general was just not very fun imo

[quiet laurel]

saryn still being the only one to have the same effect as cyte and oraxia but toxic lash not counting as a dmg buff ability is pure cinema

do we even know what tl is coded as cause its not a damaging ability but not a dmg buff either

[velvet pulsar]

Oraxia is among the big 3 of archgun frames too, despite her 4's dmg bonus not affecting archguns, she can still replenish archgun ammo and can trigger Outburst on archguns

[quiet laurel]

is it just a "QoL" ability

[carmine dew]

de probably forgot

[short mauve]

atp bubonico will be the oraxia weapon as im tweaking out with sobek

[velvet pulsar]

I'm still waiting for Coda Bubonico

[short mauve]

wait it will come someday?

[quiet laurel]

its just a dream

a second dream perhaps

[velvet pulsar]

I'm sure more coda will arrive
Not sure if Bubonico will be picked

[short mauve]

the only weapon i will use with nokko [i never use it]

[quiet laurel]

bubonico alt fire with good crit values

[velvet pulsar]

And Coda Zymos with stats that actually make sense

[carmine dew]

two struns

[quiet laurel]

oh wait

now that you mention zymos

[carmine dew]

do you even have liches unlocked 😭

[quiet laurel]

did DE also f over multi crit zymos when they fixed acuity

[short mauve]

if ask me yes

[velvet pulsar]

Nerfed a bit yes

[quiet laurel]

so its not multi anymore?

[short mauve]

i may sound dead ass but its nokko the most friendly like build warframe? or i felt like it

[carmine dew]

rhino exists so

you dont even have a cold or magnetic progen warframe lol

[velvet pulsar]

I know it's not as good as pre acuity

[carmine dew]

3 toxin progens (nokko, saryn, oraxia), and 1 elec

[quiet laurel]

building friendly always depends on what mods you have and what augments you have access to

[velvet pulsar]

Zymos is still in red crit territory but way less dmg

[short mauve]

i mean of cost and needing of weapons and all.. he dont needs weapons

[quiet laurel]

I love spending 10-20p on a syndicate augment that fixes a frames broken kit

[carmine dew]

how do you have rank 5 arcanes yet only 4 warframes wth

[quiet laurel]

I mean I havent played nokko update so dont know about his building much

[short mauve]

its just.. range and range.. and range! and

.. did i talked about range?

oh yes and range!

[carmine dew]

im so confused with your progression

are you buying things with plat lol

[quiet laurel]

bros a huge whale

[carmine dew]

wheres your umbra 😭

[short mauve]

no.. ofc i wouldnt! [i got the horrible farm items]

[quiet laurel]

horrible farm items, looks inside, molt augmented

[short mauve]

that one was a gift of someone for be a new player [i love him]

[fervent rapids]

Oraxia and Nokko are some of the easiest frames to farm

Saryn is a bit annoying with Kela but still not too bad

[quiet laurel]

you got the good corrupted mods tho which is a good investment

[carmine dew]

he has the prime though

buying primes is nbd

[short mauve]

heard she is ass to farm as vaulted

[carmine dew]

yeah if they're vaulted just buy tehm from the market

[fervent rapids]

Vaulted Primes you just wait for them to go to Resurgence or Trade for them

[short mauve]

what do you mean?

[carmine dew]

the most expensive a prime gets is 100p which isnt really a big deal

[velvet pulsar]

And here I am deciding to farm Equinox

[short mauve]

saryn was like 70 if not wrong..?

[quiet laurel]

overextended, transient fortitude, blind rage aka mods with 1 positive stat and 1 negative stat

[short mauve]

i mean 70 is.. 70

[carmine dew]

they range between 30-100p depending on how long ago its been since resurgence or if theyre unvaulted or whatever

[short mauve]

oh yeah ofc i mean those are so important with alot of warframes

[carmine dew]

I've bought most of my prime frames tbh

[quiet laurel]

not normal for new players to have those

[carmine dew]

I bought the corrupted mods with plat too lol

[short mauve]

i know thats why i bought em to be fair they arent that expensive

[quiet laurel]

legit saw a player that was done with story ask about a build and not have a single corrupted mod

[carmine dew]

mildly annoying farm 💢

[velvet pulsar]

I only bought the last remaining corrupted mods for RNG

[short mauve]

me fighting for my live to show superiority to a random ass revenant on my lobby=

[velvet pulsar]

Several such specimens

[quiet laurel]

also the reason why its your best bet to make plat via trading early on

cause high demand

[short mauve]

traded some parts than i found i won like 60 plat alr on trades didnt made much.. only 2

they where quite expensive parts of primes

[quiet laurel]

think I am still holding onto some octavia prime bps

havent checked recent prices but not too long ago was one of the most expansive prime parts

[short mauve]

it was.. a atlas! part

that gave me alot of plat

someone got it on a random game and i sold it

[velvet pulsar]

WFM under maintenance

[quiet laurel]

oh yeah atlas parts were my first I ever got and tried selling them for plat, but I already crafted em so I couldnt trade em anymore, truly a peak new player experience

[short mauve]

🥀

[velvet pulsar]

I wanted to check price for cheapest larkspur riven and if the prices of Sabot Rounds increased after a week.

[short mauve]

my next buy will be the robot 1.2x crit damage increase mod i forgot the name..

[quiet laurel]

when I play warframe again during old peace i really need to farm prime shit again

still have like none from tennocon

[short mauve]

tenacious bound i will trade for thats what i need

[quiet laurel]

tenacious bond iirc

[short mauve]

didnt knew such mod existed not gona lie got me surprised

[velvet pulsar]

U want that for MR, plat, or ducats?

[quiet laurel]

you'll be surprised about what kinda mods exist

[quiet laurel]

ducats for mod booster

that 9999 next to my name isnt there for no reason

[short mauve]

got surrpised too when i got the speed amalgalm serration and i tought than it only worked when i pulled out the bow but it worked with god damn all that was a nice feeling

[velvet pulsar]

We have a free source of ducats too FYI

[quiet laurel]

no I wont buy it with aya

[velvet pulsar]

1k ducats from void surplus if u lucky

[short mauve]

what is the cost too of it? might ask on trade chat for it

[quiet laurel]

shouldnt be too much

[velvet pulsar]

Last Scaro visit I got 1k ducats from void surplus

[quiet laurel]

but I honestly dont know about accurate pricing of it cause its usually not traded

[quiet laurel]

1k from 60k

[velvet pulsar]

Credits

Void Surplus costs credits

[fervent rapids]

Void Surplus costs 50K credits

[short mauve]

i found out than i need god damn rank 5 for vulcax for the 50%....

someone kill me

[quiet laurel]

probably should have said "1k of 60k"
you need 60k ducats for 1 year of mod booster

[fervent rapids]

yeah, you're too early to be worrying about this stuff tbh

[short mauve]

thats the only mod i will really not care for tbh ill take my time for it

[velvet pulsar]

Imagine if DE brings the option to pause and continue boosters on demand

[quiet laurel]

keep dreaming

its another big source of income probably

[velvet pulsar]

Oh I'm not gonna wish for booster pause

My wishes are bigger
For certain bugs to get fixed and certain things to remain unnerfed

[short mauve]

found out than there is another weapon than haves a similar chance well good time to farm

[velvet pulsar]

Vulklok

[short mauve]

yes

[velvet pulsar]

That comes with Diriga
It's a sentinel sniper
Highest base CC, easiest for tenacious bond

[umbral shale]

Who got a q falcor build?

[velvet pulsar]

Q Falcor doesn't exist yet

[short mauve]

-# wrong chat maybe but where i get argon crystal?

[velvet pulsar]

Void

[short mauve]

thaaanks any location recomended?

[umbral shale]

👴

I meant falcor

[solar reef]

wherever theres a defense/survival fissure

farm relics while you’re at it

[grave cloak]

riven is flexible for shocking touch. if you want, you can forma over melee elementalist and put galvanized elementalist, and swap organ shatter for amalgam organ shatter

[velvet pulsar]

Is falcor corpus or tenno?

[grave cloak]

corpus

[velvet pulsar]

Ooohh the anticipation...
Prisma? Tenet? Vandal?

Incarnon

[quiet laurel]

lvl cap approved build

[velvet pulsar]

Why power throw and reflex together?

[quiet laurel]

why not

you spam throws but cause of the HAE you keep combo

[velvet pulsar]

Alryt

[quiet laurel]

power throw is the flex slot tho so do whatever you want with it

[velvet pulsar]

Mah multiplicative dmg...

[quiet laurel]

but for highest dmg power throw is the call, even if it can be a bit annoying to use sometimes

[austere tundra]

Hello friends, I'm wanting to build a Tombfinger primary and I'm confused. I see builds newer than 3 years ago that are using headshot/weak point mods and arcanes, despite the Tombfinger being an AOE weapon. According to the wiki and Update 32, the Tombfinger doesn't benefit from headshots or weak points, so what's the point of using say Galvanized Scope, Pax Seeker, Primary Deadhead, Crux, etc? Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O286BKXpjI

Even more confusingly, it says "Explosive projectiles themselves can still land headshots, so there is still a reason to aim with most weapons for maximum damage." So which is it?

[velvet pulsar]

It doesn't have innate headshot multiplier

External sources still buff it

That does not imply that it CANNOT hit headshots

[austere tundra]

Ahhh, okay. Thank you for the clarification.

Still work, just no extra damage lol

[worldly vector]

im probably being stupid abt this but just wanted to confirm, does wisps shock mote count as an ability that deals electricity damage for archon stretch?

thank you

[velvet pulsar]

Good reminder though
I should build vermisplicer primary

Already started revisiting modular weapons

[austere tundra]

My motivation is just having unveiled a Tombfinger Riven, I'm not going the usual route though. I wanna see if I can get an LMG out of it

LMG boomstick, rather

[velvet pulsar]

Also gonna build 647 despite the low crit compared to 747

[quiet laurel]

what are you trying to cook

[velvet pulsar]

Wait screw autosuggest

Hold on, editing

Yeah, probably more clear now

[quiet laurel]

doesnt make things better 😭

[gray quarry]

People use 747?

[quiet laurel]

people use many things

people also still use 777

[velvet pulsar]

I don't like the low SC of 7xx
6xx enables high rate of void bubbles for phahd scaffold to loop

[gray quarry]

Modable amps when

[velvet pulsar]

6xx also has more beam range than 7xx

[quiet laurel]

old piece surely

[velvet pulsar]

Best we have rn is koumei decrees

[undone dust]

yes

[gray quarry]

I pray

[velvet pulsar]

Or just debuff the enemy using Magus Accelerant

[gray quarry]

I don’t want 2 amp arcanes, I wanna be able to mod my amp

(Like merulina)

[frigid ibex]

is this a good Nokko build if all my mods are maxed out?

[gray quarry]

Yeah, looks like it’ll work

[frigid ibex]

YAY

[velvet pulsar]

Remember when archgun arcane slots were informed during a DEvstream?
I told pupsker to use archgun deployer when he forgot to bring proper weapons for archgun hunt just before the DEvstream.

[gray quarry]

Might I make a suggestion?(imma make one anyway) swap the places of intensify and archon cont

[gray quarry]

Ah

[frigid ibex]

okay

[velvet pulsar]

Maybe I can positively jinx it again

[gray quarry]

Please, I’ll main yareli when merulina can be modded

[velvet pulsar]

Gotta catch a streamer just before next DEvstream, doing some amp dmg shenanigans and then jinx it to bring amp modding

[gray quarry]

Wonder how level cappers will abuse modable amps

[glossy carbon]

im doing steel path earth but this weapon be doing 400dmg, what am i doing wrong bro

[gray quarry]

Are you throwing it?

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

I can feel it

[glossy carbon]

yes

[quiet laurel]

are you heavy attacking after throwing

[gray quarry]

Swap the 6060 elec with the 90 elec

[glossy carbon]

im holing and it fly out

[gray quarry]

Also heavy attack when it flies out

and also use falcor

[glossy carbon]

u mean middle mouse button?

[grave cloak]

swap out voltaic strike for shocking touch

[gray quarry]

Idk what heavy attack is for pc

[glossy carbon]

im testing it out

[gray quarry]

Throw xoris, heavy attack to blow it up in the air, big damage and guaranteed elec

[clever bay]

How balanced is this (Volt Prime)

[glossy carbon]

im cooked

[gray quarry]

did you blow up the glaive in the air?

[glossy carbon]

this is the blow up dmg

i have to throw like 20 times for half of this guy hp

[gray quarry]

Copy this in a seperate config(riv is swapped for the 90 elec)

[glossy carbon]

ty

[quiet laurel]

influence gets its damage from enemy groups

the damage from both xoris and falcor with influence is pretty mid against single target

[glossy carbon]

its below mid YoY

[grave cloak]

what's your plan with that build

[clever bay]

Map nuking, speed running relic farming,

[grave cloak]

certainly one of the builds of all time tbh

[gray quarry]

I’d recommend volts 4 augment

[clever bay]

Seems to work decent on SP Omnia Fissures too

[simple pawn]

braton or burston incarnon better for harrow ?

[clever bay]

It could be better as I have not maxxed all the mods yet

[clever bay]

Burston i think

https://youtu.be/t0Q2rhlY8Cg?si=79Wb-jdVQ35-5CYG

[grave cloak]

depends on what you're doing

[simple pawn]

crits

[simple pawn]

ty

[mighty flare]

burston is better braton

[gray quarry]

Crit on crit? Burston is a better braton btw

[grave cloak]

eh kinda debatable tbh

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-18120019

[glossy carbon]

it's bareable now ty i have to use galvanized elemental is it ok?

[simple pawn]

how do i get consistant headshots like int he vids just aim better?

[gray quarry]

Base elementalist would be better(due to windup speed iirc it gives)

[clever bay]

Me grinding Xaku Prime set for someone to offer me 30p😵

[glossy carbon]

sr i dont have it

[gray quarry]

But if ya don’t have it, galv should work

[glossy carbon]

ty

[grave cloak]

harrow's 1 freezes enemies in place so if you can't aim well...

[mighty flare]

stack -recoil, use condemn, get cold priming

[gray quarry]

I offer a xaku prime set for 310p

[clever bay]

Gonna sell for 300 fs

[gray quarry]

You should buy mine for 310p then sell it for 300

[solar reef]

burston 100%

[clever bay]

Nty already have the set and I have 3p

[short mauve]

I JUST FOUND 1 ON GOD DAMN 1 HOUR WHA IS EVEN HAPPENING BRO

[solar reef]

they do the same thing, pretty much

[gray quarry]

[solar reef]

the bueston is just better than it

[solar reef]

skill issue?

i get like 4 everytime i do a 10 minute fissure survival

[grave cloak]

do you have limbo or xaku

[short mauve]

Im literally going all speed everywhere and i DONT find a single one

[gray quarry]

Mot in the void

[solar reef]

why are you looking for them

[grave cloak]

these 2 can easily get you crystals on every capture mission with a box breaker

[solar reef]

justbkill enemies

[short mauve]

i have to craft a drone with crit for nokko

[solar reef]

they drop from enemies

[grave cloak]

just use xaku

[solar reef]

or that

[short mauve]

im literally new i dont own every warframe im quite stuck on 1 or 2 at max..

[vivid schooner]

You go void, you kill stuff, you get argon crystal

[solar reef]

neither do I

still a skill issue

[gray quarry]

Go into mot and scrub every wall, floor and ceiling clean of enemies

[solar reef]

just kill faster

[solar reef]

genocide genocide genocide 🤑

[gray quarry]

What’s your mr

[short mauve]

kill it works?? im on the capture quest

[solar reef]

why are you doing captures

[short mauve]

7

[solar reef]

just do a survival/defense

[short mauve]

not capture.. i mean kill a person on especific assasination

[gray quarry]

Good enough, speedrun the story and get sp unlocked. I can offer my help later at farming argon crystal

[solar reef]

thats what a capture mission is

why are you doing captures

just do a mode with infinite enemies

[short mauve]

because im not sure if i have anything else.

i did survivals and they gave nothing..

[solar reef]

so kill more

[short mauve]

DUDE IM NOKKO IM ALWAYS THE TOP 1 KILLER

god dude this logic is 0 sensical or im getting rage baited or idk

[solar reef]

i mean whats your kpm

[gray quarry]

How long did you stay in the survival

[solar reef]

like at 180kpm i usually get 3-4 every 10-15 minutes

[short mauve]

not much for sure.. ill see back. the thing is taranis works?

[gray quarry]

Taranis?

[short mauve]

10-15 lvl.

[solar reef]

its all the same

level means nothing for drops

[short mauve]

so.. all void? no exceptions?

[gray quarry]

Void is void

[short mauve]

well got it ill se AGAINN... and pray

[gray quarry]

Survival just makes the farming easier

[solar reef]

but yeah just get yours kills up in survival and they’ll drop

[short mauve]

and defense works?

[solar reef]

yeah

more enemies = more opprtunities to drop

[short mauve]

ill see then

[solar reef]

which is why you should look and see if theres survival/defense fissures

i literally told you this like an hour or two ago

[short mauve]

i didnt see it sorry then..

[gray quarry]

Go run survival and stay there till you get the argon you need

Before they….argon

[short mauve]

i have no survivals so ill defend.

[solar reef]

this goes to show warframe mat farmers wouldn’t be able to handle classic monhun mat farming

[short mauve]

...

yeah i think im out on talking here for a while

[solar reef]

god forbid you want to build a set in 4u

[gray quarry]

He’s given ya crap

[solar reef]

4 hours for a pair of boots?? Yes please 🤑

[short mauve]

i know such

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

I would never

[gray quarry]

Lies

[solar reef]

alyxis has only asked me to stop baiting like 8 times
yall are painting me as the villain that I am not

[gray quarry]

Should alyxis make it 9?

[solar reef]

this isnt extreme enough for them to step in

[short mauve]

holy crap i dont to imagine the extremes.

[gray quarry]

She can step in, just because she can

[solar reef]

monarch used to TWEAK in general chat

lol

[gray quarry]

Monarch?

[solar reef]

yeah hes one of the frequents there,

he was one of those people that like

Everything they do is ragebait material

[gray quarry]

doesn’t ring a bell

[solar reef]

theres also that guy in gameplay discussion who freaks out over pings

[gray quarry]

Sleepy?

[solar reef]

idk its the guy thats always pinging people then throwing a fit when hes pinged

pretty sure its because he uses light mode

[gray quarry]

That’d be sleepy

[solar reef]

its lowkey self inflicted atp

[gray quarry]

I think he has eye issues, and hates the bright ping

[solar reef]

it might be because hes in, you know, light mode

[gray quarry]

I don’t think he is in light mode

[solar reef]

hes in whatever the hell this is

[deep grotto]

Does radiant finish stack with covert lethality?

[solar reef]

i would assume they’re additive and not multiplicative

[gray quarry]

Idk what that is, looks normal with the black background

[short mauve]

nothing atm.. 😔

[deep grotto]

I mean more finisher damage is neat at the end of the day

[deep grotto]

Pretty sure it was regular dark mode but his gamma is screwed up for whatever reason

There wasn’t really any indication as to why it was like that

[gray quarry]

I’ll be home in a bit, if you still need argon by then(40ish minutes, actually like 50)

[solar reef]

to be fair your team has a collective of like 40kpm

i would see if anyone is willing to help with a nekros

or khora

or whatever other lootframe, they all work

[gray quarry]

G, do you happen to have steel path unlocked

Kinda thought so

[short mauve]

no.

YOU ALL EXPECTED ME TO HAVE IT?

[short mauve]

atp im gona even clean the dishes for lotus if is needed too

[gray quarry]

I’d recommend getting that unlocked asap tbh, loot drops are doubled for harder enemies

[solar reef]

??? i thought it was just a 1.5 multiplier for resources dropped

[short mauve]

its get all the zones aint it?

[gray quarry]

It’s either 1.5x or 2x

[gray quarry]

All nodes before new war

[solar reef]

every node

[short mauve]

i hate than nokko is painfully bad for speedrun zones atleast he is goated for stealth

[solar reef]

even without speedrunning modes nodes only take like 3-4 minutes

[short mauve]

some do other not

[solar reef]

obv there are exceptions, like the ones where you have to pull the train with shields

[short mauve]

for me]

[gray quarry]

“All missions in The Steel Path have a +100% resource drop chance increase and +100% mod drop chance increase over the same mission node in normal (non-Steel Path) mode.”

[solar reef]

sweet

i thought it was 1.5

[short mauve]

well i didnt got a single one on 15 waves sweet..

🥹 guess ill go to capture atp.

[solar reef]

kill issue

[short mauve]

🥀

[solar reef]

this is low

for 15 waves? absolutely

[short mauve]

i know mr i kill 17000000 enemies per second i killed what spawned i couldnt do more

i would loved to do so

[hybrid harbor]

What elemrn is good with the plasma arcor

[short mauve]

[solar reef]

for progen?

depends on what your overall build will look like

[gray quarry]

Doesn’t matter for progen, can get it through the vice

[hybrid harbor]

Yes

[hybrid harbor]

I went magnetic but idk

[solar reef]

I personally like to run in with magnetic or electric

[gray quarry]

Run survival

[short mauve]

.... I JUST SPAWNED WTF WHY YOU DO THIS GAME

[solar reef]

i only use it for mag, I prefer it with elec personally

[hybrid harbor]

I got 49 magnetoc

[solar reef]

i build it for gas

[gray quarry]

[hybrid harbor]

So like good roll?

[solar reef]

its fine

[hybrid harbor]

49%?

[solar reef]

you dont need a terribly high %

[hybrid harbor]

Wasnt the max 50

[solar reef]

60

[gray quarry]

Max was 200

[hybrid harbor]

💔

[hybrid harbor]

At least a good one ey

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[solar reef]

its an ok %

[gray quarry]

Yep

[short mauve]

i have a relationship of hate love with this gif bro or i hate it sometimes or i chuckle

[gray quarry]

Spreading misinformation is fun

[short mauve]

finally.. now i can build the final component for nokko..

[solar reef]

2 hours for 2 argon crystals 💔 🥀

[hybrid harbor]

My quartakk was a 30% toxin...

[short mauve]

i swear bro 🥀

[gray quarry]

Nice

[hybrid harbor]

This was when liches didnt show weapons

And like where 1000x harder

[short mauve]

asking maybe WRONG.. channel but what is tennacious bound normal price? is for get it up for tomorrow

[gray quarry]

I don’t remember

[short mauve]

god i hate than warframe market is down

[gray quarry]

Last I checked it was 20-30

[short mauve]

gulp. well its a 120% boost worth it

[short mauve]

yeah first one offered was 20 so fair.

[icy light]

Hello. Ember's 90% Damage Reduction... Tell me how you guys achieve that? I've heard it drains a lot of energy. Granted I don't even got Ember yet, but I might pick her up.

[gray quarry]

The drain ramps up, using fireblast drains the gauge by 50% but if you spammed her 4 it fills back up fast. The drain starts off slow then goes fast

[severe bough]

Dmg reduction ramps up by filling out your immo meter so you basically activated 2 look to a wall spamm 4 ( her 4 only consumes energy when enemys are in line of sight )
Get imo meter up do 3 armor Strip and also lower imo meter at the same time if u are to long at full imo meter u will explode and lose it

[gray quarry]

You can explode if immo meter stays full for too long?

[icy light]

Why does Ember explode.... that what. WHY DOES GAUSS NOT EXPLODE IN REDLINE THEN

I need to calm down. So that's her whole thing about 90% reduction?

[severe bough]

as i remember or it only does drain energy and then it just does deactives

[gray quarry]

Ah

[severe bough]

Let me test real quick

[gray quarry]

Yeah, it’s based on immo meter and if it’s killing too much energy you cast fireblast to stop the energy drain

[severe bough]

Okay only does drain energy

Does not make boom

[icy light]

I need to see Ember for myself istg...

I have a bunch of her augments too. So, it's clearly about something going on here. And we have so many options to make costs work that doesn't involve dumping stuff. And this 4 isn't a channel? And her 2 isn't a channel either?

Are yall just on terrible energy economies?

[gray quarry]

Her 2 is immolation

[icy light]

So her 2 is a channel?

[severe bough]

Yes

[gray quarry]

Yes, it’s her only channeled

[severe bough]

Platf ember better

[icy light]

And her 2 works like redline?

[gray quarry]

Wdym

[severe bough]

It does kinda execpt it doesnt cap like gauss u need to switch between using fire blast inferno etc to ensure ur not draining your Energy to much but also use the strip

[icy light]

I'm gonna be so fr. When I get my hands on Ember Prime. And find the perfect Titration of Positive Efficiency to Positive Str to Positive Range it is a WRAP. I can't believe yall.

And I will be including the Molt Augmented. That's a free 60% str.

[misty crystal]

hey..need feedback and tips on this build if it is good for speed running for steel path

with this for shattered lash

and this on melee (i run melee only)

[storm sable]

My friend told me abt an arcane or mod or idk what it is but like he has 20% at every single ability use and when it procs, the next 3 ability is free cost (energy wise)

[timber dagger]

Is it possible to move archon shards between frames?

[short garden]

testing some fun stuff on ceramic dagger

doughty is giga broken, gives u like 12x crit dmg

[subtle fulcrum]

Arcane steadfast

[fathom sky]

You have to pay for the resources each time you want to remove a Shard, so best just to get more Shards if you want to use them on more frames

[subtle fulcrum]

On light attacks yes, not on heavy

You would need a -slash riven

[short garden]

ceramic dagger has 0 slash lol

[short garden]

?? no it doesnt xd

doughty is js a cd buff, doesnt matter if heavy or light

[subtle fulcrum]

It's a cd buff based on the attack you are using

[short garden]

ye spectral dagger, not the heavy attack

[subtle fulcrum]

True

I honestly forgot it's 2 distinct parts

[short garden]

its based just on status chance, heavy/light status doesnt change it

heavy just doubles it

[subtle fulcrum]

It's not about heavy/light status, it's about the type of attack, they all have different stats like spectral dagger have different ips distribution, so the heavy attack will have a bigged bonus cd than the daggers

[timber dagger]

Thank you

[old marsh]

U want lots of range and archon stretch

[solar reef]

It’s based on your actual status chance for puncture.

Forced puncture procs will not increase doughty’s bonus.

[short garden]

(explosion only)
doughty on // doughty off

math works out, since doughty gives around 10x cd at max stacks

[solar reef]

^

[short garden]

ceramic dagger spectral hits dont care about their own status chance, only abt the og weapon puncture

[short garden]

not talking abt that tho

[subtle fulcrum]

Corufell light attack has puncture, it gains cd with doughty.

Corufell heavy attack is pure heat, it doesn't get bonus cd

[solar reef]

corufell, and other weapons with unique alt fires are exceptions

[short garden]

hes saying the spectral daggers benefit less from doughty since they have less puncture sc

[short garden]

corufell changes its status in order to fire off alt fire

[solar reef]

90% or more of the game’s melee dont have that sort of interaction

[fresh pumice]

Can anyone tell me how many ghoul weapons exist pls? :3

[subtle fulcrum]

Ok ok

[short garden]

ghoulsaw, tonkatt and tak & lug afaik

[subtle fulcrum]

I know it doesn't do this anymore but I remember the doughty even used to change its cd value based on the combos (maybe it was only a visual bug ?)

[short garden]

only visual for sure

doughty has a lot of visual bugs

dont even have it equipped rn

[subtle fulcrum]

Simulacrum bug yes

[fresh pumice]

Thanks :3

[short garden]

• this allows almost permanent outburst uptime

at 10x buff

as long as u kill an enemy every 20 seconds

which shouldnt be hard with 390cc and like 13x cd

[misty crystal]

For her nuke ability?

[short garden]

focus mainy on range and efficiency

[misty crystal]

Got it

[short garden]

try getting the mods overextended, transient fortitude and fleeting expertise

theyre REALLY good for her

[misty crystal]

Im going to check codex where to find

[vocal vector]

whats the best element for coda sporothrix?

[umbral shale]

Btw uh how many foma used on this?

[severe bough]

Mag is most flexible

[small pulsar]

What subsume should I use on Saryn?

[hard dove]

Roar over 2 for pure nuking with 1 and 4

[small pulsar]

I see, thought I'd keep the 2nd skill though

[hard dove]

The other 3 is too crucial to be replaced in a nuke build

[small pulsar]

I see

[hard dove]

As for survival well you just gotta cope with lots of moving

[chrome cedar]

Kind of a beginner build but is this good?

[hard dove]

Maybe cata shield with hella shield regen

[small pulsar]

[hard dove]

Remove umbral fiber and vitality, more strength and duration
And maybe drop redirection as well

[small pulsar]

Also any archon shards except max corrosive stack?

[chrome cedar]

I'll do that when I get blind rage, since it doesn't want to drop

What duration mod should I use? I'm already using narrow minded and continuity

[hard dove]

Strength maybe? Since you only need 11 corro stack with corro projection

[small pulsar]

I see

maybe 1 parkour velocity too

[hard dove]

Actually yk what i didn't see narrow minded and comtinuity
But you do need to drop transient at some point tho

Wait a sec I'm dumb i misread that again

Yeah duration is good just drop all the survivability mods for strength

Ideally you use catalyze shield + fast deflection for survivability

[chrome cedar]

Ok thanks

[azure tinsel]

Can someone recommend me a steel path Khora build, I have lycanths subsumed but feel I’m struggling with energy

Also I have 3 tau purple and 2 tau yellow

[torpid panther]

guys i need decent builds for xaku prime

guys i need decent builds for xaku prime

[gaunt silo]

And you tried to ping everyone in a discord of 200,000+ users???

[wind cosmos]

do @ everyone pings get auto deleted or added to some sort of strike system for the account or are they just disabled in the settings for us.

[gaunt silo]

They get auto-deleted, I'm just wondering why.

We don't moderate for it.

[muted moon]

What's a good Oberon build??

[charred kraken]

srry it has srry fro the late response

[latent adder]

https://overframe.gg/build/366383/oberon-prime/hallowed-fairy-king-oberon-smite-and-reckoning-nuke-sp-endurance/

[latent adder]

https://overframe.gg/build/759324/xaku-prime/the-broken-void-xaku-non-helminth-and-variants/

[midnight horizon]

10 stacks corro + heat + corproj results in.. 91.8% strip right

[muted moon]

Appreciate man🙏🏽🤙🏾

[solar reef]

somewhere in that range

[midnight horizon]

Good enough honestly

[solar reef]

even without corro project its enough

[midnight horizon]

Yeah true

[solar reef]

i just like to run 2 shards so i can see red health bars

even if its not needed, usually whatever other shards i could throw on aren’t need it either

so i might as well make it so i can atleast see what i’ve armor stripped

[tawny nova]

For a Tigris prime build, should I go for the Left or Right?

[short garden]

why go crit? weapon has 10% base cc

[tawny nova]

ty!

[frail quail]

What should i build hate around?

[near vortex]

killing things ofc

But probably light attack with Tennokai

Something something blood rush weeping wounds

[verbal fractal]

hi, can someone give me a good khora prime build? pls

[solar reef]

its a phenomenal heavy spam weapon and its pretty good for hybrid as well

I personally prefer to build it for raw dmg + CO for heavy spam with voruna

[frail quail]

sory what is hybrid? im not familiar with the term

[solar reef]

a mixture of light/heavy spam

tennokai focused, pretty much

[frail quail]

oh ok that makes sense

[granite ginkgo]

you can look up on ninjase build in overframe website, it got good explaination and alternative

[verbal fractal]

k thx <3

[pastel igloo]

looking to build a general use nova, any ideas on how i can improve this or what helminth i could use?

[quiet laurel]

roar or nourish over 4

idk what the other guy was on about, nuking saryn is a build but weapons platform is definitely her best option

and subsuming over 2 is a bad choice for general gameplay

[pastel igloo]

pretty sure only roar is a viable option on her

unless you really love your bane mods

[granite ginkgo]

personally u want to swap augur reach for archon vitality, u dont need to reach max rank on her, r0 is fine for nova

[quiet laurel]

nourish for rainbow builds like ocucor fr fr

[granite ginkgo]

wait how far the progress u rn in warframe main quest? @pastel igloo

[pastel igloo]

what do i even get from that, 2 is blast damage

[granite ginkgo]

oh for her 1st augment skill, per cast proc heat on hit

you basically nuke per cast use 1st + 4th skill

[pastel igloo]

im honestly thinknig of subbing her 1

if anything id nuke with 2

[granite ginkgo]

her 1st is ur survivalbility tho, damage reduction and priming

[pastel igloo]

my survivability is shield gating

[granite ginkgo]

it eihter 2nd or 3rd to subsume over

[quiet laurel]

I am a supporter of weapon platform builds so imo roar over 2 but frankly nova has lots of good KPM builds
would definitely go for more duration and if you subsume you also want more strength

[granite ginkgo]

true but u do need multiple layer to overcome survival issues

ngl never seen ppl use shield gatin in nova

[pastel igloo]

dr is useless for cap

[granite ginkgo]

@mighty flare ur comment?

[pastel igloo]

im used to running cap, shield gate is my go to on anything

[quiet laurel]

oh if you go cap weapons platform is the call

[near vortex]

Xatas

[quiet laurel]

ye shield gating is auto slot

[near vortex]

Xatas is super solid

[coral crest]

Damage reduction isn't gonna work at cap unless you have like 5 quadrillion% coming from different sources piling up on each other

[pastel igloo]

yeah was thinking xatas aswell

[coral crest]

Like Baruuk or smth

[near vortex]

Especially if you do the acid shells molecular prime interaction

[pastel igloo]

also, how does her 1 prime?

[near vortex]

Same as the four with no speed change

[quiet laurel]

if you go nourish and 1 augment her 1 primes heat, nourish and blast

not worth imo

[near vortex]

You could put null stars on certain frames for a null stars DPS build

[pastel igloo]

can i sub off her 4 for it to still work

[granite ginkgo]

i wont tell anymore, more i suggest more u "nah mine better for this" help urself fam

[mighty flare]

nova just needs 150% strength, little value in going above esp on general/subsumeless build
equilibrium much better for energy cuz of her passive
molecular fission & neutron star are general decent augments, neutron star fine for heat priming & hot shot for general weapon platform (just dont do heat dps weapons)

[near vortex]

Absolutely not

Take off 2 for cap, it doesn't scale

Or 3 if you are mobile enough without it

[pastel igloo]

fair

[near vortex]

Slow helps with survival and speed if you wanna nuke fast

[pastel igloo]

so i reckon i still need her 4 aug? ;-;

[near vortex]

Both augments are really solid

[quiet laurel]

4 augment seems pretty eh

[pastel igloo]

pretty sure neutron will only troll me if i ever wanna run heat

on weapons

[mighty flare]

run electric/blast or whatever

[near vortex]

Hot Shot, if you have it

[pastel igloo]

nope

[near vortex]

Nova is really good at keeping hot shot up

[quiet laurel]

just slam 4head

[pastel igloo]

i dont need it anyway

i run acuity and high crit based builds anyway in general

[near vortex]

Jat Kittag could be really funny now that you mention it

[near vortex]

You should consider a Zariman Incarnon then

The prime explosions inherit devouring Attrition for some funny damage

[pastel igloo]

im fine with burston, tox and a trash clearing melee

ig ill run augless for now

but ill keep it all in mind

[near vortex]

Kuva Sobek is one to look at too

[pastel igloo]

im a bane hater

[near vortex]

It works really well with Molecular Prime since it can retrigger acid shells

[pastel igloo]

do i need sobek holstered?

and does it trigger on hit or kill

[quiet laurel]

if you go cap banes arent as annoying to swap out all the time 🙏

[near vortex]

You need to kill them with Sobek for it to work

[pastel igloo]

so wait, i dont get it, retrigger how?

[near vortex]

If a Molecular Prime explosion kills a target after you spawn the explosion with a Sobek kill
It triggers acid shells

Which is why you want Xatas

[mighty flare]

should always be running it

[pastel igloo]

cause xatas is the only way for it to deal damage in high level?

[near vortex]

Xatas and Acid Shells is really strong because Xatas ignores falloff

It's basically needed for really high level

[quiet laurel]

why though, just seems like QoL for 4 application but you could also just cast 4

[pastel igloo]

fair, all i really know about xatas is that it has some weird effin calculations, cause once it dealt 2 mil a tick next to a 400dmg red crit

[crisp pine]

I have no idea what do with wisp anymore lmao. The lazy gating is complete garnish as she always invis. (It is mostly there just in case). But I am wondering if there actually any point to getting ability strength.

[pastel igloo]

ive always felt like strength maxing on wisp was just an arbi thing

but at the same time anything else is kinda useless aswell

[mighty flare]

less buttons pressing = opopopop

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G5J4BvRWEAAG_Ni.gif

[near vortex]

Really big Wisp motes and whatever damage buff you subsume on 4

[crisp pine]

like the health really does not matter when you get one shotted but you can always scale health for strength but then why we need more STRENGTH

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/our-brains-our-brains-are-our-brains-are-stinking-stinking-gif-1141374799563591806

[near vortex]

you scale strength for the haste mote

[pastel igloo]

to deplete the normies' torid even faster lol

[mighty flare]

https://imgur.com/a/5upLhOk

[mighty flare]

str increases mote buff, surge dmg and xata buff

[pastel igloo]

ngl i lowkey wanna just do ts

[granite ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-ben-stiller-go-i-dare-you-cmon-gif-5653702

[pastel igloo]

i already did that with grendel ivara and gauss, but im kinda gonna go broke after i do it with xaku

idk really

[crisp pine]

yeah technically just boost the last two abilities. Where are the dimishing return come in though or is tehre?

[mighty flare]

opportunity loss, but ur messing urself up anyway by wasting slots on lazy gate/cata shields/reservoir

[quiet laurel]

reservoir slander will not be tolerated

[pastel igloo]

any ideas or am i doomed, cant swap frames as i need a good weapon

[mighty flare]

no cestra incarnon?

[pastel igloo]

i only have like 5 incarnons, i hate duviri with my whole heart

worst content update if you ask me

[quiet laurel]

we love random loadouts

[pastel igloo]

i wanted to run nezha, but it would be suicide

4 2 1 1 dead

[quiet laurel]

the 50 dmg cant kill you iirc

[pastel igloo]

still, is there any option for me to actually heal?

[quiet laurel]

harrow ig

[pastel igloo]

oh i mustve forgotten he had heals in kit

havent played the guy in a long while

[mighty flare]

do you have an archgun built

[pastel igloo]

never bothered, all i do in this game is run caps and flip stuff in tc

[granite ginkgo]

u do know archgun got arcane slot now

too bad it locked behind nokko bounty vendor

hate finding the damn mushrooom

[mighty flare]

archguns are decent enough to carry eta easier now (less buffs needed)
run sahasa kubrow for ammo and use harrow

[old marsh]

tf? nezha nukes in eta and eda. just disable one modifier if u r that worried

[granite ginkgo]

skill issues

[old marsh]

has a nezha/harrow and says am i doomed.

[crisp pine]

also would there be any benefit to push for 500% (molt augment) vs 470% (invis acrane)

[coral crest]

Invis arcane also adds crit damage

I guess it would boost breach surge pretty decently

Since it's coded as a weapon and is a guaranteed crit

[tender forge]

Nokko build?

[crisp pine]

wisp. I currently just have build that can hit pretty high level of strength the outlet for the strength is what I am figuring out

[tender forge]

Ah.

I guess the real question is are you going to use a subsume over 2nd and her 4th augment

[crisp pine]

I am a bit concern about surivivablilty where I want to give it a bit more gating but it is another layer of "break glass just in case" but she already has her 2 for that already

1st one is what i am working with. Second one is my more conservative set up that has lazy gating as garnish.

[tender forge]

the second build seems not as beneficial.

her invis from passive is triggered by her 2 but it breaks when you attack

if you want a invisble gun slinger you might want evade over 2nd

[crisp pine]

that was what i was advised about it so i am doing some changes. I am using a glaive so guns are "useless" for this build lmao

[tender forge]

roar on the first build might be a better as a pet nuke build

[tender forge]

that's still tight on the timing

[crisp pine]

tight on timinig?

[tender forge]

sling the glave then jump

to trigger crespular

for the crit bonus

[crisp pine]

I usually throw it in the air

[tender forge]

but you lose crespular after 1 second

unless melee doesn't break invis unless damage is delt

[mighty flare]

just cast 2 and let it run

[crisp pine]

doesn't not break invsible for wisp?

[tender forge]

but you still break invis if you attack

[crisp pine]

"Invisibility is not affected by Melee weapon strikes, allowing Wisp to freely use them without making her visible." this is from the wiki on her passive I think

[tender forge]

ok

[tender forge]

i would like you to consider an evade build where you use her 4th augment to kill with 3rd to get head shots

or base build

[quiet laurel]

evade wisp tech

[tender forge]

cool beans

sooo anybody hear of the Orberos build

[crisp pine]

evade is generally really tricky to use. Honestly I do not know if I can even use it on any of my builds.

legit I might actually just use taxon for a bit of shield gating

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-18120019

[tender forge]

fair it like gyer 3rd

[quiet laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/700814126519156749/1357339215431602368/caption.gif

[mighty flare]

i almost just sent something bad 💀

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-follow-me-gif-4273618567139914195

[quiet laurel]

luckily all the bad stuff is on my phone 💀

[gray quarry]

The brainrot that is tuvul commons has gotten to you

[tender forge]

can i get opinion on Orberos

[quiet laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/808022167844552715/1373764705369329885/caption.gif

[cursive mulch]

if i'm going for a grimoire build that can actually kill, should I replace the heated charge with anemic agility?

[tender forge]

Ivara?

[cursive mulch]

qorvex

[mighty flare]

use primed convulsion

[cursive mulch]

going to eventually get ivara though, will try then

[cursive mulch]

don't have it

[mighty flare]

convulsion

[tender forge]

Barro comes in clutch

[cursive mulch]

but still, should I go for more fire rate and less overall damage, or focus on base damage since it is a crit build?

[tender forge]

hear me out Grimoire is better on other warframes

beam weapons tho

[cursive mulch]

i know, i'm just going for functional aesthetic over optimization

[tender forge]

you could go eximus killer and go full magnetic electric because magnetic procks from weapons scale the damage of the overguard breaking electric proc

its a weird inherit

[cursive mulch]

secondary fortifier?

[tender forge]

no

that makes the damage more to overguard like a multiplier

im talking Magnetic stacks

[cursive mulch]

gotcha

what's the going price for primed convulsion

[tender forge]

Upon breaking of the Shields/Overguard the target receives a forced Electricity proc that deals a total of 3% of the target's maximum Shields/Overguard per Magnetic status effect, to a maximum of 30% at full stacks, over a period of 6 seconds. The damage of the forced Electricity proc is determined by the weapon that applied the magnetic status.

[quiet laurel]

the dmg of the elec proc is determined by the overguard the enemy had

[tender forge]

the damage of the 30% is effected by electric mods by a small amount

and status duration of the weapon that stacked magnetic

i played with it a bit it was odd. the electric alone cant kill armored eximus units.

but if you use elemental and duration mods you can improve the damage add a bit of outside viral and volia you can kill any eximus

there is also affliction also being able to make more of the same dot and how gas can infinitely damage with other dots

using affliction

[tender forge]

Hey if you do consider use beam weapons on qourvex because punch through causes beam weapons after hitting enemies to split into punch though amount of beams and if they chain well it does interesting chaining things

[coral crest]

It also makes null star pierce enemies

And makes Nokko's subsume unusable... because the initial projectile gains it

[cursive mulch]

Yeah, I’ve used tenet glaxion and torid incarnon, but shotguns, especially bassocyst, are my calling

[tender forge]

so you need to hit 3 enemies to plant the shroom

thats funny

[coral crest]

Or through a wall

[grave cloak]

smash or pass

[tender forge]

hit

21

[late bronze]

Whipped up this Oberon build since I got him for free and didn't know what to do with him

can hold its own pretty well against low to somewhat mid tier steel path

But is there anything I can do to make this better

[shut saffron]

It's nice but no neg hurts sale value a lot

[grave cloak]

Tbf I'm rolling to use not sell

[shut saffron]

Then this is fine yea

[tender forge]

you can go for equliberum over flow and arcane battery over bellicose

then build for 150% range and duration 200% strength, rage and energy to health mod and armor

i wouldn't aim for renewal to give you 100% armor boost because it doesn't go higher

[crisp pine]

is it realistic to get around 500% to 700% str on wisp or is taht just a meme build?

[crisp pine]

what is your goal with your oberon?

[tender forge]

its called Arbitration + Invigoration or Void coruption

[crisp pine]

okay

[elfin geyser]

my xaku build

tthoughts?

[blissful knoll]

Don't like viral tempest over 3, it's taking away slots from major qol mods like pflow and equilibrium

It's forcing too many augments into a frame that has too many required mods

[elfin geyser]

but i manage to deal with energy economy not bad though

i switched out molt augmented for steadfast too

is there any other stat caku needs that i dont know of?

[mighty flare]

casting xaku 4 with brief respite and some augurs give longer shield break than catalyzing, so you can swap for rolling guard
new xaku augment really isn't that great but considering you've alr opened up slots its fine

[elfin geyser]

how much shields do you need for 1.3 seconds

[mighty flare]

iirc 300

[elfin geyser]

wait really

i thought it would be a lot higher

i didnt know this

makes catalyzing shields a lot less better then i thought

[mighty flare]

natural shieldgate scales up to +2s

[elfin geyser]

yes but you need to reach full shields in order to get it

above a certain threshold the augur set and breif respite wont give that shieldgate

but i thought that threshold was a lot lower

or higher i mean

[mighty flare]

having a natural gate longer than cata usually means negative efficiency + brief respite & augurs, some frames just aren't comfortable on that setup

[blissful knoll]

Generally if you have a 100 cost ability, brief respite + 2 augur breaks 300 at 45 eff

1 augur barely misses it

But it's barely noticeable so you don't need cat shield if you're already running 45 eff + brief respite + 1 augur

[elfin geyser]

@mighty flaresomething weird happens

i put most of augur set plus breif respite

i test it and get to my shieldgate

when im in that second of invincibility i activate my last ability and it restores no shields at all

however when i test it when im not that position it works normal

[mighty flare]

steadfast

[blissful knoll]

Are you using arcane steadfast?

[elfin geyser]

oh

fr?

ill test again

[blissful knoll]

Yea 0 energy spent = 0 shield gained

That's why you generally only use it on pillage variants of xaku

[elfin geyser]

still happens

oh wait

thats becuse of my focus

tsk

415 on ability cast

[blissful knoll]

Yep

That's around 1.4s

[elfin geyser]

1.42 seconds

making cat shields not only redundant but even harmful

thanks that just freed up a vital mod slot

[blissful knoll]

Even at 1 augur i think the slot gain is worth the loss of less than 0.1s invul

[elfin geyser]

@mighty flare if not tempest barrage what do you think i should use

i wanted an ability that can armor strip (mostly at least) that is cost effective

combined with untime rift

[blissful knoll]

Terrify is p good for mobile builds

[elfin geyser]

in order to do easy damage for high levels with second ability

[blissful knoll]

But helminthless is basically just as good in camping builds

[elfin geyser]

i didnt like that one tbh

though im aware there are some good uses for those 3 abilities

[blissful knoll]

I mean his 3 is really good

[mighty flare]

terrify or pillage, pillage better overall

[blissful knoll]

Having an area that just straight up strips armor is really nice

Less recasts necessary

[elfin geyser]

isnt it aop to the enemy you put it on

[blissful knoll]

Yep you just drop it on a choke point and everything that walks thru it dies

[elfin geyser]

oh its a constant aoe?

[blissful knoll]

Yes it's like an aura around the target

So it's really useful for camping

And you can put down 2 of em so you can armor strip around 2 choke points

[elfin geyser]

interesting

i think from here out every option is solid

just a question of what im more comfortable with

which means testing

[polar quiver]

Hey everyone, I’m trying to make a build that has good survivability and DMG, I don’t have any maxed arcanes or even archon shards. If you’ve got any builds for me please PM me them as my notifications for discord aren’t working properly