builds-discussion

[solar reef]

Tennokai is fine as it is

[mighty flare]

use regular elementalist if this is heavy spam slash

[charred kraken]

hey everyone so when i look at build it looks good but i feel like its not and the damage isnt good idk am i doing some wrong ?

[near vortex]

Call me crazy but I think triple Umbral Nidus is the most bait thing to ever be baited

Unless you happen to be psychopathic enough to subsume over 3

[fathom sky]

should just go viral heat rather than viral blast methinks

also the half ranked mods aren't really helping.

[near vortex]

if your primed pistol gambit isn't maxed you should use creeping bullseye

[charred kraken]

yeah i know just not maxed lvl rn lol

[wanton widget]

Thoughts on this build for the Paris Prime Incarnon?

[midnight horizon]

Does Straight affect Gauss speed?

[umbral shale]

this bulid main focus is nuking right?

[full girder]

Yo anyone got a good nehza prime nuke build

[wild plume]

yeah

@umbral shale

[umbral shale]

kk ty

[severe bough]

U dont really need galv scope swap that for a bane and swap hammershot for elementalist

Spectral serration depends on frame

Whats on the riv?

heat cd

[hybrid harbor]

Can i get atlas build

[full girder]

Cause I hear it can nuke pretty well

[hard dove]

Divine retribution, lotta range, some efficiency, and some strength
Subsume firewalker with pyrotechnics or thermal sunder (do negative duration with these 2 subsume)
Or subsume roar over 1 and spam chakram/use fire status weapon (use neutral duration if doing that)

Arcane augmented and steadfast/energize

[full girder]

What frame has pyrotechnics

[hard dove]

Temple

[full girder]

Crap i don’t have that frame but I’ll get it and I’ll also need more resources for bile

[severe bough]

The time when archon shards where only removable with bile

[hard dove]

Could use sunder or use roar and spam chakram

[full girder]

I can do roar but I don’t have normal gauss

[pallid plaza]

normal guass can be pretty easy to farm.

Once you hit C rewards on disruption you keep getting C rewards

[novel bear]

And you can go through rotations a lot faster than most game modes

[pallid plaza]

^--- this assumes people will do the objectives and not just watch the pretty numbers as things go boom

An honest and frequent mistake

[full girder]

I got it subsumed

[full girder]

You mean molt augmented

[full girder]

Do I still need a fire status weapon with pyrotechnics

[hard dove]

no you can ignore using any weapon as a matter of fact

well except eximus unit

[full girder]

Ok

[frigid flame]

anyone able to help me witha issue i amd trying to do abuild but need some that has a mic so i can do the build but i dont see the set mods i need in the mod menu

[full girder]

Ok it seems to work but does damage build up

[hard dove]

wdym build up

[full girder]

Cause unless I’m doing something wrong it seems like the damage is low

[hard dove]

roar > 4 > 2 > enemies should just die instantly

oh wait did you use chakram augment

[full girder]

I’m using pyrotechnics from temple

This is the build

[pallid plaza]

The only thing i can think of is the Mod in question can not trigger an effect with said weapon so they are excluded from the list. EX: Galvanized CrossHairs and Mesa's Exalted pistols. She can not "AIM" with her exalted weapons so Galv Crosshairs can not be put on them

[severe bough]

Would recommend playing shield gating but idk if last slot is meant to be cata shields

[hard dove]

need archon vit as well

[full girder]

I don’t have archon mods haven’t tried to get them yet

[hard dove]

this is a nuke build
also its Nezha you dont need shieldgate outside of lvl cap

archon vit is a big boost cause more fire stack

[frigid flame]

no i am doing a melee build with the gaurudo and need the gladator mod set on aany onf my compiaon weapons but dont see them any where

[abstract axle]

3 things real quick, acuity is no longer multiplicative, so drop acuity for multishot, and in the incarnon form galvanized shot is multiplicative, so add a raw damage mod. Finally, you have too many elements, drop at least one, probably two and switch to staight heat

[severe bough]

Still with nuke builds much more Security even tho its outside of lvl cap

[full girder]

I have never gotten to lvl cap the highest I’ve got to is 500

Well with Atlas my main

[hard dove]

you really dont need shieldgate with Nezha at all
he has build in death gate

[pallid plaza]

Dont make tap the sign. They dont work with companions so they dont appear in the list See previous example

[full girder]

So do I have to get archon vit or is there a good replacement

[hard dove]

you have 90% dr and you have 40m no LoS nuke you really shouldnt struggle with Nezha

[frigid flame]

then what set mods can be put ona compaion to help with melee crit chance then

[hard dove]

naw
also fleeting expertise over transient to spam more spear

[frigid flame]

that tranfert to your melee weapon

[full girder]

Ok I’ll have to get that mod

Ok I got fleeting on it

[prisma spindle]

Hey chat what’s the best Phantasma prime riven to have ?

[full girder]

Um yo this build works really well damn

I appreciate the help

1.5m damage

[severe bough]

Just tested it out true, but what i noticed on my nezha i replaced Chakram which why energy sustain was a bit bad ( just swapped and put pyro on 1st ) you every tried the roar chakram build? Sounds very interesting too

[hard dove]

thats my main build just pressing 4 and 2 and everything non eximus just instantly dissapear

really statisfying if you have map open and all the red arrow just poof gone

[severe bough]

Mabye im using that aswell just because pyro and chakram feels a bit overkill at the same time

Only real reason is consisten health orb drops and chakram with roar does probably the same as pyro

[hard dove]

i generally prefer roar chakram over pyro/sunder cuz it gives me option to use gun as well

with pyro/sunder youre kinda locked with lots of casting

[severe bough]

True i tested out the build before i changed pyro for the first 1 i had it on chakram slot which was kinda meh even with equi energy upkeep and that lot of casting after i change it it def feels better

[full girder]

I might try out roar

[severe bough]

Ive running roar we still running low duration? Also augments for chakram important?

[hard dove]

lemme rec a video of both versions

[severe bough]

It probably comes out almost the same execpt less Casting like @hard dove said

[twilit orchid]

what are some melee weapons without any IPS, like torid

[hard dove]

damn Discord how hard is it to upload a single 5mb vid 😭

[severe bough]

Dont u even need like nitro for that

[mighty flare]

if ur gonna do platform nuke you might as well use pillage instead

also wouldnt do precision int

[severe bough]

The Sweet armor strip

[hard dove]

@severe bough @full girder with Sunder

why is it a file

how do i make it into a vid

[wanton tusk]

anybody have a decent boltor prime build they are willing to share? I recently came upon one and I plan to get the incarnon when it is in rotation. Feel free to make it a pretty high investment one as I really like the Boltor

[gusty nova]

Needs to be mp4 , if you recorded in obs go to the Remux recordings menu

[novel bear]

You can rename the file extension to webm

mkv and webm are basically identical, but discord only supports the latter

[hard dove]

@severe bough @full girder with Sunder

nice

[severe bough]

So sunder/pyro subsume for 1?

[hard dove]

yeah

my Nezha have no shard

[severe bough]

My only has 2 cast speed

[full girder]

Still a file

[hard dove]

with roar

[severe bough]

But k assume that i know that the differences between those builds are

[novel bear]

Are you on mobile?

[full girder]

Mine has 2 casting speeds 1 max energy shard and 2 ability strength shards

[full girder]

I play Warframe on Xbox I use discord on phone

So yes I’m on mobile using discord

[stark whale]

How interesting is this build, I wanna see what others think using the strain mod set on Limbo

[mighty flare]

flat hp from arcane blessing is better for weak frames like limbo
strain set is not good in general

[stark whale]

Hmm… ever thought of giving it a try? The strain mod set with the maggots is actually quite good, with Limbo to help protect them a bit longer than usual and gain a lot of damage for the hate incarnon

Hence why I use arcane reaper as well

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-18120019

[fallow ether]

For Saya's Visions, what Warframe is best to use?

[full girder]

Full nezha build but i might do adaptation instead because it seems like his 3 well atleast for me gets melted away so quickly anyway to improve that

[charred gale]

titania if ur doing it solo

[twilit orchid]

anyone?

[hard dove]

you probably can drop precision int for adaptation

[atomic talon]

beyond getting primed versions and upgrading the arcane any suggestions on how to improve this?

[hard dove]

or use aegis

[full girder]

But what about ability strength

[hard dove]

you'll still nuke

i had 139 on mine iirc

[full girder]

Ok

I’ll edit it tomorrow after work

[charred gale]

looks good

[atomic talon]

so your suggestion is just "about as good as it can be without primed mods"?

not tryin to be rude, genuine question

[charred gale]

yeah dont see anything that could rly be improved imo

[atomic talon]

well that is disappointing and reassuring

this nukor has been forged in the heart of overframe and QnA chat

[latent adder]

swap magnetic might or target cracker for heat or electric mod

you're lacking a damaging status

[atomic talon]

i got heat on the gun

[latent adder]

and rearrange to make viral heat or viral elec

if u dont mod heat then it will barely proc and each proc will do 1.9x less damage

hover over status chance and see the weightings

and yeah magnetic progenitor would be ideal

lets u swap between heat or electric

[stiff flower]

i have a build question. concerning Exodia Force. im guessing Melee Elementalist doesnt affect it. right?

[solar reef]

Elementalist and Contagion affect the phsyical projectile that you throw, not the AOE explosion.

elementalist doesnt benefit contagion, effectively.

just build for crit/raw

[forest igloo]

Trying to build an Atlas Prime i got for Landslide any tips? 😭

[carmine dew]

melee influence calls to you...

[forest igloo]

I need the adapter and the arcane but i probably will

[carmine dew]

you p much run the usual influence build on atlas fists

cowsweat or whatever its called

obv without the tennokai

[forest igloo]

Oooooo okay

[mighty flare]

atlas likes his augments (some of them)
do you have access to that

[forest igloo]

I have suda arbiters and meridian i can check if you don’t think they’re in there

[carmine dew]

rubble heap and path of statues are really good

[forest igloo]

Meridian has atlas

[forest igloo]

Kay! i’ll get those

[carmine dew]

ore gaze is nice to have but you don't need it

[forest igloo]

Is there one you revcomend more? i can only afford 1 more before i need to wait

[carmine dew]

get rubble heap first

[forest igloo]

Oh i already have these two thats what i was saying one after those 😭😭

Also, what mods should i replace for his two augments?

[carmine dew]

https://overframe.gg/build/205455/atlas-prime/infinite-fists-of-ore-atlas-casual-solo-tank-and-loot-non-endurance/

i can see you dont have a ton of endo lol but he's not super mod dependent really

[forest igloo]

Only missing 3 mods!!

Archon stretch is gonna be a pain though 🫩

[carmine dew]

yeah that one is p useful

because influence exalteds do count for triggering it

[forest igloo]

Yeahhhh im coming back from a couple month long hiatus….

[forest igloo]

How much is the mod…..?

wait nvm i can check that

25p for it

I can maybe grind that back

[carmine dew]

cant you just do the kahl mission

reset is in like two days

[forest igloo]

The what

[carmine dew]

for archon stretch

[forest igloo]

I have to do kahl for that!?

[carmine dew]

yeah?

[forest igloo]

Bleghhhhh i hated his missions so i never touched past the main story

[carmine dew]

yeah they ass but it doesnt take too long tbh

[forest igloo]

Now i just need steel charge and cunning drift then

[forest igloo]

I did the missions and im seriously one rank below being able to buy them

[carmine dew]

reset in two days nbd

[forest igloo]

Wha?

Oh wait nvm yeah it isnt

[forest igloo]

So where do i get cunning drift from though? I checked the codex and it just says moon halls

[carmine dew]

ngl i bought all those mods with plat from the market

you dont really need them though, theyre just small boosts in the exilus slot

[forest igloo]

Ohhh fair enough

[rough trout]

Is this good?

[carmine dew]

58% not bad!!!

that's one roll under the max amount you can get

[rough trout]

Cool ty

💙

[carmine dew]

cold progen better than heat really but its nbd you can just change that with an elemental vice

[heady notch]

this any good?

[carmine dew]

no 🥀

+tox is nice but thats a super useless second stat

[heady notch]

time to re roll it 200 times

[carmine dew]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-3937562841362806777

[rough trout]

What’s good riv for it? Trying use it for Arbitration mostly

[forest igloo]

What shards for Atlas?

[tawdry grail]

amalgam serration any good on kuva bramma?

[forest igloo]

melee crit dmg and ability strength?

[forest igloo]

I’d think so but take it with a grain of salt 😭😭

[fossil coral]

So not a question but in the long run which will do more a arcane for this build

[hybrid harbor]

Atlas build please

[fossil coral]

Wrathful advance and build for crit damage

[hybrid harbor]

What if i dont wanna subsume my kullervo :((

[fossil coral]

Then you get the game of trying to get crit chance and crit damage

[hybrid harbor]

So bloodrush bs and js some crit damage mods

[fossil coral]

With a little to no effort you can get 200m with wrathful advance

You can hit damage cap if you put purple shards

[carmine dew]

the usual stats really

+cc cd dam toxin etc

[hybrid harbor]

Ill farm a 2nd kullervo ig

[heady notch]

do i take it 😬

[carmine dew]

better than the previous one

-fr sucks actually

keep rolling

[undone dust]

it was almost peak

[proper surge]

should i use galv aptitude on acceltra? i figure its multiplicative but also it has aoe so im not sure

[long rampart]

Guys, can you check if this build will be enough to nuke or even melt the steel path? I don't want to get my hopes up.

I'm mr10 btw

[proper surge]

are you stacking frostbite with a companion?

[long rampart]

Yes

[proper surge]

yeah i dont see any problem with this

no guarantees about nuking but it seems pretty good for most steel path stuff

[long rampart]

I have taxon as my companion that also used cryo.

[long rampart]

Thanks for being honest brother

[proper surge]

i suggest getting a companion like diriga or a companion weapon like verglas/helstrum to spread status more, diriga's precepts can spread status with manifold bond, and verglas and helstrum are great at spreading a lot of status everywhere

you could also use hounds in the same way as diriga

[long rampart]

I have no idea where to get them.

I just buy from the market

[proper surge]

diriga's blueprint comes from the market, helstrum comes from legs in fortuna, and verglas comes with nautilus which can be gotten from doing railjack, or you can get its prime version which is currently unvaulted

[long rampart]

Thanks for the tip

[proper surge]

manifold bond comes from master teasonai in cetus

no problem!

[proper surge]

bump

[versed harbor]

it wont affect the aoe and apparently its not got multiplicative gun co anymore

not worth running

[proper surge]

i see, thank you

[versed harbor]

even if it did have multi gun co it wouldnt rly be worth it

[grave cloak]

common acceltra L

[undone dust]

taxon's weapon is also a decent cold primer as no matter what you mod on it, it has innate cold

[simple pawn]

can someone send me a build for braton prime incarnon please ? its for harrow

[undone dust]

i wish shivering spread other statuses too

[grave cloak]

thermite rounds is flexible for racism mod/riven
point strike is flexible for crit delay/galvanized scope

[simple pawn]

thanks

[silent magnet]

Hi i'm trying to build Vauban, can somone help me too choose some good mod for his 4th

[young idol]

I wonder. With oraxia wich gives toxin on weapon is it better to go toxin on weapon or viral

[quiet laurel]

viral or corrosive

since you can also just run nourish since she cant have dmg buff subsumes I'd say corrosive

[young idol]

How to creat corrosive

Wich elements ?

[fervent rapids]

Toxin + Electricity

if you type "Corrosive" into the search bar when modding it'll show the elements used for it

[quiet laurel]

oh you are new new

then forget about my second message

[young idol]

I am mastery 10 rn

And will unlock Helminth in 2 days

So yeah kinda

[weary lily]

Can someone give me an 0 forma ignis wraith build which can clear lvl 80 enmies

[plain panther]

You usually get the mods of the base elements you need by typing the damage type in the mod search section

[tulip sequoia]

Which secondary weapon is good to have secondary fortifier arcane?

[deep edge]

how much str does oberon need for his reckoning to fully strip armor? i saw a wiki says 200, but im at 183 and the ui shows i have 100% armor strip?

[quick tusk]

Hello! Does anyone know if the Trumna Prime is good at all? Without any fancy mods (galvanized, amalgam etc) as well

[analog stirrup]

Will work but not amazing

[quick tusk]

nvm its mr 15

im still mr 8

thx anyways

[severe bough]

Miter inc worth it?

[carmine dew]

the wiki says 167 str, which is correct

[quiet laurel]

yeah, good QoL gun, tho shoots through charge pretty quickly and the charging itself is a bit annoying

[carmine dew]

is that the old wiki

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Oberon/Abilities

Oberon expends 100 energy to lift all enemies within 8 / 10 / 12 / 15 meters and in direct Line of Sight up into the air and violently slam them to the ground, permanently reducing their Armor by 10% / 20% / 30% / 60% before dealing 6000 / 6500 / 7000 / 7,500 Radiation damage, plus an additional 450 / 550 / 650 / 750 damage per Radiation Status Effect, and applies a Radiation and Knockdown Status Effect.

[severe bough]

Ty

[still fog]

Does the build look fine? Want to use her with Dual Tox as a weapon platform, dunno much about Wisp tbh

[zealous rapids]

You don't need much range for weapon platform build

[still fog]

Any other recommendations? Can't really add more strength to her

[fathom sky]

Why not?

Crank up that Umbra Int

[still fog]

Alr

[solar reef]

her motes give you massive health boosts, vitality is absolutely not needed

you can drop it for another strength mod or a QOL mod that genuinely makes life easier

[grave cloak]

swap the placement of blind rage and continuity on your build

it will save you about 3 mod space

[left bison]

if i wanna make crazy slam damage on magistar does it necessary to get its incarnon mode?

[fierce depot]

So wait what's a good heavy attack build? yeah im still trying to figure this out 😅

[solar reef]

the incarnon mode is the only reason to use magistar over other weapons for sla

[left bison]

ahhh okay okay thanks, should i buy sancti or use the normal one

i got the riven

[solar reef]

sancti is a direct downgrade for slam

[left bison]

hmm okay so i should use the normal one then

[severe bough]

Yes

[near vortex]

Both are good, base Magistar has higher damage output but Sancti has cool factor and healing

[solar reef]

it also has a lower riven disposition

and healing means literally nothing atp in the games life span

[near vortex]

Magistar rivens are expensive asf though

[solar reef]

he has a riven

and no they arent

you can get them at like 70-80 if you hunt for em

most people in trade chat buy at 100

[near vortex]

That's still pretty high in my eyes, especially for something trash

[solar reef]

its more expensive to use WFM for them

[coral crest]

I saw it being sold at 50 at times in trade chat

Surely it's not that bad if you fish for it

[solar reef]

“something trash”
it has a 1.35 riven dispo

[near vortex]

I'm referring to the riven itself, not the weapon

[solar reef]

yeah, 200 on wfm but TC averages at 100

[near vortex]

although thanks for trying to correct something that didn't need to be corrected

[solar reef]

trash rolls for meta weapons are always going to be high

[coral crest]

Trash in this context meant bottom of the line riven for rolling it

[solar reef]

in which case 70-100 isn’t top of the market

[solar reef]

no need to be snarky,
its an easy misunderstanding given how hasty people are to bash on magistar

[coral crest]

Magistar experts in chat

A very nuanced topic

[solar reef]

i think we should all abandon the magistar and use the wolf sledge

[undone dust]

this is so true

[coral crest]

With the noodle skin

[undone dust]

i second both of these ideas

[solar reef]

we LOVE the magicians brick

[deep grotto]

Regular trumna is cheaper if you want it, but you need to spam deimos bounties

[near vortex]

Trumna Prime also isn't vaulted yet, so you can still get relics for it

[quick tusk]

i was farming it, but since i'm still so far away from mr 15 i just gave up

[quick tusk]

i'm just looking for anything that will help me finish the star chart lol

[jovial hatch]

anyone got a good solo build for the Apex Tank?

[quick tusk]

im currently building Sobek to try and get it going nicely

[carmine dew]

atomos 🗣️

[jovial hatch]

im trying but i cant take out the 2nd health bar with all the Magnetic procs and the Poison floors

[carmine dew]

that thing carried me as a baby tenno

(last year)

[quick tusk]

how hard is it to get ?

[carmine dew]

not very

[quick tusk]

hmmm

[carmine dew]

you can buy the BP from the ingame market

[quick tusk]

ill look into it thx

[carmine dew]

and the ingredients arent expensive either

and honestly if youre just looking to get throgh star chart

you can just chill until you unlock liches

[quick tusk]

i have one lich pissing me off

thats one reason for me to get stronger too

[chrome badge]

thats the point

[carmine dew]

yeah liches are basically your intro into the big boy weapons

[chrome badge]

you're some godly abomination of tech, flesh, and "magic" and they're just some person, gotta create a conflict

[carmine dew]

what weapon does it have

[tidal crest]

Can the normal burston prime be viable for sp?

[carmine dew]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

[chrome badge]

yes but not reccomended

[quiet laurel]

everything is viable for sp

[carmine dew]

like not even incarnoff? i wouldnt bother

[tidal crest]

Alr ill stick w torid incarnon

[chrome badge]

D:

[quick tusk]

Kuva Grattler

[chrome badge]

W

[carmine dew]

lol that thing is good but archguns require a little bit of investment

[quick tusk]

its good?

[chrome badge]

its a good archgun yea

not usuable* in normal missions tho

[carmine dew]

you need to get a gravimag just to use it in normal missions and then you need to get two arcane adapters from the mushroom man

and then you need archgun specific mods as well so its kind of a faff

[chrome badge]

hence the *

[carmine dew]

its good if you do have all of that but you definitely dont atm

[quiet laurel]

archgun propaganda

make em perma usable in missions and then they'll be fine

cooldown on the weapon you wanna use 💀

[carmine dew]

and you have to use lavos or protea or sahasa kubrow or whatever to not permanently run out of ammo lol

[chrome badge]

don't forget the need to reach rank 5 with fortuna to get the heist to get the archgun launcher

unless they changed that

[carmine dew]

🥰

but on the plus side you can put it on your archwing LOL

[coral crest]

still the same

[chrome badge]

good

[coral crest]

though a bunch of archguns have gravimag by default nowadays

[zealous rapids]

Arbucep too? So far it was only deimos archguns since lorewise they are designed for necramech

[grave cloak]

latron incarnon, laetum incarnon and sampotes.

I can give you the build for all 3 if you'd like.

[noble crest]

Yall I think my discord hates me

I just wanted an Eleanor gif man

[grave cloak]

unfort

[noble crest]

I thought it was my phone being a jackhole nah just discord being discordant

bro i just realized I'm in the wrong chat, sorry for derailing if I derailed my bad

[jovial hatch]

I've been doing that even with the best perks and children at MAX shield negation and shards on both Sheilds and HP. But my damage output is to shi* i can't kill the storm fakers and their RPGs fast enough to even dent it before it heals it's self back to full

Hildryn*

[mighty flare]

one of top archgun for necramechs and decent enough on deployment, just needs a couple buffs

[grave cloak]

share what your build is?

the mods and all that

[near vortex]

SOBEK MY BELOVED

Any particular frame you're using it on? I know of like 6 with funny Acid Shells interactions

[grave cloak]

saryn surely

:blueless:

[near vortex]

Saryn is one, yeah
She falls in the same category Oraxia does of toxin on acid shells

[quiet laurel]

not really the same if we wanna be picky cause oraxia cant go roar

[near vortex]

It's the same category to me, it's just Saryn gets the juicy faction damage triple dip

Oraxia still gets Sobek banes though so she isn't missing out too hard

Plus I think Oraxia's tox bonus can go way higher while she's wall latched which helps too

[quiet laurel]

and then there is cyte who completely breaks the game with sobek

to the point where your squad mates cant even kill anything anymore

[near vortex]

Cyte does the same mechanic that Saryn does except with the ability to use Electric instead of Toxic

[quiet laurel]

and insane amounts of punch through

meaning you can steal your mates kills 5 tiles away

+elec shards

[near vortex]

Pure magnetic Sobek plus electric resupply is some juicy damage

[quiet laurel]

which makes up for no roar

[near vortex]

In terms of funny Sobek interactions, I also have to include Nova, Zephyr and Garuda

[quiet laurel]

do nova explosions inherit acid shells?

[near vortex]

Yeah

Molecular Prime inherits acid shells so it can retrigger

Xatas Whisper my beloved

Explosions also get Devouring Attrition from the Zariman incarnons too which is why they're so good on non hot shot builds

[quiet laurel]

but I still dont support zephyr sobek, you firstly have to cast your 4 and then shoot sobek, seems kinda annoying practically

[near vortex]

It really isn't, especially with casting speed

Nova casts four and then shoots Sobek, same with Garuda too

Seems like a small nitpick for being able to wipe stuff off the tileset

[solar reef]

zephyr sampotes 🤑

[near vortex]

Oh yeah and Acid Shells goes cross Rift too, even though Limbo himself can't chain nuke with acid shells, his allies can

I'm still trying to come up with ways to make Limbo Sobek work outside of a Cyte specter with Resupply

[solar reef]

i forget specters even exist

i’ve never once used one

[near vortex]

Specters are really funny

The two important ones are Dante and Nidus

Cyte would be a great one too, but it's hard to abuse the acid shells interaction since you don't get to force Cyte to spam elec ammo

DE let Cyte specter force an ammo type

Dante is a lot of free Overguard generation so he helps survival a ton, and Nidus link on like Wisp specifically can let Wisp snapshot strength conditionals into motes way stronger

[ruby snow]

hey guys whats a nuke frame that is relatively cheap to build

[fallen ermine]

Octavia

[solar reef]

if you have access to helminth, sevagoth

hes like 30 plat

you get his two augments, roar, and 250ish% ability strength and he 100% health damages every enemy at every level

[ruby snow]

can it be done under 100 plat?

[fallen ermine]

What is cheap, shard cheap ? Plat cheap ? Forma cheap

[ruby snow]

plat cheap ig, i have a lot of formas and dk what shard is

just want to buy the mods needed for a build and go nuke till endgame

[near vortex]

Sevagoth Prime you can get relics for and make, he's a great nuke frame once you get Helminth

[fallen ermine]

Octavia without archon shards (she was on prime resuegence so shouldnt be expensive)

Sev is hungry for archon shards

[ruby snow]

okay ill look up both their builds and compare price on market, thank you!

[late night]

Does high armor reduce damage only from Health?

[gilded vale]

currently having some fun setting up a zephyr build meant to take advantage of airburst rounds, looking for some suggestions/recommendations
firstly, what damage buff subsume dyall think i should use? realistically its between roar or eclipse, and i think roar might be better here? but might as well see how people respond regardless

SECONDLY, what all secondaries dyall suggest toying with? ideally stuff thats high crit + isnt built around headshots. im contemplating grinding out the tenet plinx, because i think it would be really funny to see all the damage numbers from launching a black hole into my tornadoes

(also regarding the second part, unfortunately ive tried to make use of the cestra incarnon and as far as i can tell it is bugged af in regards to zephyr, so its not quite as functional as i would hope. itd be a reaaaaally fun weapon to use alongside her once it does get patched tho)

[icy light]

I'm checking my gunblades. Is the entire reason people use Stropha because of the better crit?

I mean it is 30% base crit. But still...

[gilded vale]

part of the reason, though the fire type of the gun part also tends to play a big role in regards to gunblades. the gun blasts have particularly high damage and a pretty large hitbox at a close range

[icy light]

Mhm mhm. Is there a reason that set it apart from other gunblades or?

I have Vastilok. And it's good. I just. Want more gunblades.

[gilded vale]

i mean, basically every gunblade except for the sarpa is good. the sarpa has stat issues, but it being a burst fire with small projectiles doesnt really do it any favors. the other 3 are basically shotguns and theyre all AMAZING

[icy light]

Buest fire you say?... If DE is obliged to make Sarpa Prime eventually... ooh hoo hoo. I will consider it. I like burst fire.

I guess the setups for builds are all the same? I'm running CO for Vastilok rn cause of the projectile dmg.

[solar reef]

amazing imo is a little bit of a stretch
they have awkward stances and generally struggle to keep with KPM melees, and fall behind to other heavy oriented melees

they’re fine if you enjoy them though

[icy light]

Mhm. I did crack into a uh... Bullet Dance stance mod. So that's why the sudden interest

[gilded vale]

their optimal builds will likely differ somewhat. sarpa is low crit, so youll likely get more mileage out of something more status focused. CO will be a must have for it, though

[solar reef]

IMO the best alternative would be the Corufell, which is what gunblades should perform like

[gilded vale]

corufell is VERY fun

[icy light]

Not too fond of the heavy scythes and the movement-centricity of it.

[solar reef]

it doesnt really play like the other heavy scythes

mainly because you dont really ever use it as a scythe

its a heavy spam weapon

[quiet laurel]

not priming with corufell is a sin

[solar reef]

oh absolutely

the build I used there in general was a sin

its blastfluence

[quiet laurel]

I also dont see a companion

[solar reef]

forgot to bring one

I had it turned off since i was doing some captura

[icy light]

Oh I dislike heavy spams.

[solar reef]

not like you need priming in that content

whats to dislike about throwing around a giant cannon

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-fgo-noble-phantasm-gif-23431264

[icy light]

I uh... prefer the light attacks. Hence why I was relooking into melee options. Otherwise, why even use a mod stance?

[solar reef]

mod space

i wasnt looking into whatever conversation you were having

i was only responding to the gunblade person

but yeah, mod stances = mod space

[icy light]

I'm here for the pretty stances and doing good while doing it. I did have an idea for another gunblade-esque weapon but I forgot it a while ago. Would love to see a Coda Gunblade... perhaps.
Anyway. They mentioned Burst for Sarpa?

[mighty flare]

yes armor applies to health not shields/overguard

where is this coming from

[gilded vale]

ah nvm, i was misunderstanding stuff due to weird yareli interactions ignore me

[fathom sky]

Nope

[gilded vale]

(merulina can get armor from archon shards, and it reduces damage redirected to merulina even if yareli has overguard. this is the one and only time in the entire game armor and overguard can interact)

[rare stag]

do yall think primed faction mods make a lot of difference compared to normal ones?

and if i dont have the primed ones should i just use another mod?

[carmine dew]

they do but you can just use the normal one if you dont have the primed

[solar reef]

1.5x final damage multiplier versus 1.3x

thats a significant difference in damage

[sinful bone]

I have a light attack vortex slop silva and aegis build I really enjoy

I do millions even without Wrathful

[icy light]

I will consider it.

[deep grotto]

alright I deadass need to fix up my railjack

anyone have any pointers?

[sinful bone]

ask me if you're curious, it pairs amazingly with elemental infusion buffs like shock trooper, toxic lash, and smite infusion ^^
I might have a video of it, I'm not sure

[mighty flare]

yeah gimme 1 sec

[deep grotto]

The meats has appeared

[mighty flare]

core integrated mods, open slots to fit mods for more turret dmg / qol like revo reducer / speed from cruising speed
forward artillery mods to guarantee kill shots & save reloading times

[deep grotto]

Wait more mod space means more turret damage?

Didn’t know that had an interaction too

Thought it was just like warframes with starting energy

[mighty flare]

best battle mods
seeker volley quickest fighter killer
shatter burst largest ability dmg coverage & kills shield nodes on grinear/corpus crewships, reactors, security nodes, etc
blackout pulse immobilizes enemies like crewships so you save time targeting their thrusters

quick crew ship takedown is blackout pulse --> shatter burst --> forward artillery

[deep grotto]

I unfortunately don’t have any kind mods for the middle polarity

[mighty flare]

tactical is sorta flexible

• form up is for speedrunning by quick returning everyone to the crewship
• battle stations is just more turret dmg, while death blossom temporarily removes overheat, neither are that important
• battle forge is used to quick forge 8 forward artillery charges for high level grineer missions, can be swapped for Flow Burn for more speed

[deep grotto]

Noted

Thanks bigman

[mighty flare]

need help on parts?

[deep grotto]

Uhh
No i think i’m okay

I use the funny laser turrets because they deal shockingly high damage

[mighty flare]

photor?

[deep grotto]

Yuh

[mighty flare]

yeah they the best

[deep grotto]

Zekti mk3 ones eveb

[mighty flare]

yeah thats the best you can get

anyway zetki shield array is goob

[deep grotto]

Zekti stuff is just peak in general

[rough vale]

i have an addiction

[quick tusk]

I'm building nezsha prime atm

Don't know if they go well together lol

[near vortex]

If you mod for electric and use divine retribution maybe

Sobek is a great status weapon

[rough vale]

I've been graphing calibans DPS with different subsumes, are there any other common subsumes besides nourish, roar, breach surge, empower, and bright bonnet?

[near vortex]

does Xatas work on the companions?

[rough vale]

It doesn't

[near vortex]

hmmmm
Oraxia's Helminth? That one's a damage vulnerability

[rough vale]

That'd just be additive to sentient wrath right?

[near vortex]

Uhhhh
Sometimes multiplicative? I haven't researched how damage vulnerability stacks

This isn't a helminth but you could give Theorem Infection a go

With a Kitgun

[charred kraken]

is this better ?

[mighty flare]

use p/heated charge over augu pact, does riven have fire rate?

[low stirrup]

hey guys does anyone have a good volt build for steel path i keep dying quick

[sinful bone]

no WONDER my acuity boltor's been doing worse

okay I have to make some readjustments

[fathom sky]

Yeah they fixed that months ago

[sinful bone]

that's really unfortunate

I get that it was absolutely crunk but man...

I'll miss my 50mil weakpoint shots

[undone dust]

there are definitely still weapons that do love acuity though

[sinful bone]

I'll see, maybe it still fits on my Boltor and Lex Incarnon

[fathom sky]

Likely not

Acuity is a much rarer thing to use

[sinful bone]

I hope so because I cba to change it now

even so though I have a boltor riven with like 200% crit dmg so maybe I'm goated with putting multishot instead

[fathom sky]

Multishot often is just better

Especially for the small QoL that it gives in helping build Incarnon charge

[sinful bone]

yeah

is the damage buff from deadhead additive? I can’t find anything on the wiki that says which one it is

[undone dust]

like the headshot portion or the actual damage buff itself

the damage buff is additive

[sinful bone]

the headshot

[limber delta]

why do ash builds on overframe have super high cc??

[limber delta]

headshot damage is a whole separate stat so additive to its own sources (target acquired and others) and multiplicative to everything else

[near vortex]

Why wouldn't they?

What else does one build Shadow Clones for

It doesn't get stats from much else

[sinful bone]

so it's good on its own?

[limber delta]

its overall negligible but nice to have

[sinful bone]

hmmm I think I'm better off doing multishot and deadhead on boltor incarnon

instead of acuity

[limber delta]

the bace CC is like 5% and im seeing 50+ on some of those builds

[limber delta]

weakpoint damage is a whole other thing

[sinful bone]

yeah

it's kinda confusing

[near vortex]

They build a crap ton of crit chance because there's not much else to slot on the weapon

[limber delta]

with 2 crit mods at 5% base crit? impressive

[limber delta]

weakpoint dmg is multiplicative to headsot bonuses

[sinful bone]

is it.....

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

I'll try multishot deadhead and acuity deadhead

MAYBE multishot is better especially since it builds incarnon faster

[limber delta]

since its not a sniper (pls de vectis incarnon or smth) you get a whopping +30% to multiply with

but numbers are numbers and i never used boltor inc before

[sinful bone]

yeah 30% multi is very good

[sinful bone]

the 120% part, is that bit additive?

because 360% additive does make sense

[limber delta]

additive to serration

[sinful bone]

I mean that's still not a bad thing

[limber delta]

it also gives more than serration

[sinful bone]

yeah

okay, so two things I'll try with boltor incarnon:
acuity, serration, deadhead
multishot, serration, deadhead

I think, because incarnon form has a 3 multishot, multishot MAY win out

[blissful knoll]

so i heard smth about kuva shildeg having a funky slam that deals progenitor element instead?

can someone clarify how it actually works

[rough vale]

phew

[undone dust]

[celest tendon]

[sinful bone]

I dont think you have enough fire rate and electric damage

[rough vale]

Wth I know you

[undone dust]

wait

shiro?

[rough vale]

Yeah

[undone dust]

what the shit

[rough vale]

Wait we can curse?

[undone dust]

i haven't been shot for it yet so probably

[rough vale]

I've been very obsessed with Caliban

[sinful bone]

there's a no profanity rule, idk why that didn't get censored

[sinful bone]

it usually auto blocks your message

[rough vale]

anywho very fun build

[near vortex]

Is Theorem Infection any good for a summoner build?

[undone dust]

it's not bad but it's a little annoying to upkeep

it is pretty funny though

[rough vale]

i havent tried it tbh

i dont even have it

[storm fog]

Is damage cap still -2B?

[rough vale]

this is everything ive tested so far

[quiet widget]

i love how i am unable to modify this loadout in any way until i remove shock absorbers from my exilus slot. and i won't do that. stay there forever.

[sinful bone]

this image feels so illegal

was shock absorbers formerly an exilus mod?

why do you have 60/60 capacity?

why isn't it 78 because of steel charge?

[quiet widget]

yeah, they changed it to a normal mod like four years ago. i just haven't ever changed the build. i get prompted to remove it every time i look at the loadout lol

[sinful bone]

what a cursed screenshot I feel like I have to cleanse my soul now

[quiet widget]

i just don't really play as rhino so it's not a huge deal for me lol

[sinful bone]

makes sense

[sinful bone]

but also why do you have all those mods on and 60/60 capacity😭😭

is there a ghost living in your warframe account

[quiet widget]

i think once i remove shock absorbers it will fix itself

but i don't want to try it and see lmao

[sinful bone]

oh probably

[quiet widget]

it's a relic of the past build now

[sinful bone]

yeah no keep it that way

[river rain]

Would Ophanism Eyes be good on Xaku for lvl cap as just a armour stripper

[pastel igloo]

did burston run serration or gunco

i forgot

[ornate cosmos]

huh
this build kinda good

inc evos are increased multishot, greater accuracy and increased cc

[pastel igloo]

what even is this weapon

[ornate cosmos]

braton prime

there's a funny thing about the braton inc
when on inc mode, the braton shoots a small aoe projectile that deals fire
funny thing is, it both mixes and doesnt mix with the modded elements

for instance, in this build, normal braton does corro cold
in its inc mode, it does blast corro cold

the main issue is ammo consumption; ive never seen a gun so thirsty

[river rain]

Acceltra

[ornate cosmos]

silver medal then

[fallen pike]

Anyone have a decent reaper prime build?

[dapper mantle]

Anyone willing to drop your gara prime build?

I am trying to build gara

[pastel igloo]

open mod slots up to preference, this build is pretty scuffed cause i just made it for base sp nuking, havent optimized for level cap yet

in exilus id probably put preparation and for shards 1/2 cast speed 1/2 parkour rest crit damage

you can also ditch gas in favor of more cd/base dmg or whatnot, youll also proc influence more often due to the higher elec rating

[ornate cosmos]

update
ive spent almost 600 rounds in 5 seconds or less
acceltra got nothing on this

[rough vale]

https://overframe.gg/build/922802/caliban-prime/bright-bonnet-caliban-subsume-not-available-on-overframe-yet/ just put a new caliban build up on overframe

[quartz pumice]

still learning buildcrafting myself, hows this? and what should i slot in that extra spoit

[pastel igloo]

first of all yareli has no use of adaptation since shes basically revenant

with the iframes she gets from 2

you can also ditch nourish unless youre really desperate for the viral

[quartz pumice]

Was using the nourish for energy and to not have to slot in viral in my pistol

[pastel igloo]

id just get abit more strength either with arcane, mods or both and get xatas/roar

[pastel igloo]

with nexus and 160 efficiency she has literally infinite energy econ

never have i ever had 0 energy on yareli

[quartz pumice]

Okie dokie thanks

[pastel igloo]

also you can just prime viral with companion, no?

[quartz pumice]

Probably

What companion do you think I should use

[pastel igloo]

companions are a very subjective topic unless youre minmaxing

i use panzer strictly for the resource booster, even for level cap runs

but if you wanna run meta probably wyrm

or just any robotic

[quartz pumice]

Thank you internet person

[clear creek]

I accidentally turned dethcube into a machine that turns rooms full of enemies into ice sculpture galleries

[old marsh]

There r no accidents

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[clear creek]

Should I try a sand kavat build on nekros

[midnight horizon]

I think it's a manageable enough downside.

[charred gale]

It doesnt affect incarnon mode so its pretty good

As long as ur getting a good bit of charge from half a mag

[karmic quartz]

help

[charred gale]

Shred

[karmic quartz]

is fire rate that good omg

[charred gale]

Yeah, it also gives some punchthrough

I personally prefer vile acceleration tho

[fervent rapids]

It's not like a godly mod per se, but the other two are just not that good at all

[karmic quartz]

oki

[old marsh]

P Shred is immensely important on beam weapons. On other weapons you can debate over Vile Acceleration too but it’s upto choice and use case

[fluid crest]

If i want to play around with Halikar Wraith Passive (Dissarm) do i use rebound or volatile rebound ?

[karmic quartz]

ion have that one so Ill use this one

[chrome badge]

rebound

[quartz pumice]

feel like this is better, still not sure what to slot there duration maybe? crafting xaku for xatas rn

[topaz breach]

I heard limbo is good for index, but im not sure how to play him, like at all, even outside of index

[hard dove]

press 2 > press 4 > press 3 > recast as needed
use whatever abilities you subsume over 1 as neccesary

[topaz breach]

not quite sure how all of those add up, i know next to nothing about limbo; hes super confusing

[gloomy elm]

any good Chakkhurr build i can take a look at

[high sable]

acuity,cannonade,hemorrhage,cc,cd,galv apt,viral 60 60 for me

crux/merciless/frac reset too

[dusky ocean]

someone have a good wisp prime build possibly without using sol gate?

[rare stag]

is nautilus the best companion right now?

[coral crest]

Pretty much all of them have a good niche ever since Koumei update

Can't really go wrong if you know what you want

[lavish orbit]

Good for his grouping tool, but not every frame wants that

[dire zenith]

For Xaku, what do people usually subsume?

[coral crest]

Nothing really. Except 3 if you can't be asked to learn when to use abilities and which ones to use

[dire zenith]

I like the 3 but I'd rather put accuse and gaze on separate buttons and just not have deny

[coral crest]

Sadly that's the trade-off

[dire zenith]

It's kinda annoying to cycle and use with the tap/hold thing

[coral crest]

That's why I said "nothing really"

I guess people slap roar on them to boost gun dmg a little

Or you can run omamori with double recharge mods and paired with 4 become immortal

[midnight horizon]

I use omamori

[dire zenith]

What is this omamori

[midnight horizon]

Kume's ability

[lavish orbit]

Omamori, Nokko's, Ophanim, Roar, even Nourish

[coral crest]

Koumei's ability. It gives you a a chance to block a hit and restore shields from that for a fixed amount of times

[midnight horizon]

It's funny cuz you can probably fit just about any subsume onto xaku

[coral crest]

Pair it with Xaku's 4 giving high dodge chance

Barely anything can touch you

[lavish orbit]

The funniest for me is Gloom, with a bit of strength you can go over 99% slow

[midnight horizon]

You got 75% dodge chance, so add that with omamori's 50% results in 87.5% total dodge chance. Statistically

You wanna pair it with shield regen mods too

[dire zenith]

That's really cool but won't I miss an armor strip?

[midnight horizon]

You armor strip using weapons

I been using bubonico to prime corro viral heat mag

[coral crest]

Well kinda, that's why I don't subsume anything on xaku

If you know how to use their abilities they're very much worth it imo

[dire zenith]

DE please let me divorce The Lost and I will never subsume Xaku

😭

[midnight horizon]

You can also subsume over 1

Xatas don't buff any of the other abilities

Except for that one beam from the lost

[dire zenith]

Oh fr? I'll put omamori over that then I guess

[midnight horizon]

If only the armor strip isn't so stationary

Then maybe I woulda liked it

[undone dust]

i just swapped it for pillage

[coral crest]

Peellage

[sour fulcrum]

would this be a good use case for the legendary core considering i already have the archon continuity maxed?

[coral crest]

Doubt

I'd use it on something that you don't already have

But might have potential need for

Like on some arbiters mod

You have any build/frame in mind?

[sour fulcrum]

Im currently building nova, but all the time i use continuity on a frame, i be like: prime gives me 2 less slots, it doesnt hurt using the archon since i already have it maxed.

[coral crest]

That's pretty much my mentality as well

Don't see much reason in primed

Unless there's no archon analogue

I used mine on vigorous swap

[sour fulcrum]

yes, or perhaps the build is really strict like, u consumed all your points aleady.

[coral crest]

Somewhat universally useful stuff

[coral crest]

I suppose it all comes down to how much forma you're willing to spend in the most edge cases of needing many corrupted mods or smth

[sour fulcrum]

so, most of my expensive mods i maxed like 7/10 so using a core on that, would save me like 1.9m credits. idk if its worth it also...

[astral tinsel]

the extra drain can cost you an extra forma

[coral crest]

I'd use it on something you have to go 0 to max with

[sour fulcrum]

right? and it's rare to have a build on warframe that consume so much forma like weapons do. right?

[coral crest]

Ehhh, some are very hungry

Like Lavos

Or Dagath

[sour fulcrum]

makes sense

anyways, ill keep my legendary core and wont use primed continuity hahaha

[coral crest]

You'll know when you need it

[sour fulcrum]

i hope so.

[coral crest]

I got vig swap when I was making 2 frames with weapon coded abilities and had garuda not yet fully refined

Screw the nourish propaganda on Garuda, we can have fun subsumes and much more damage at once

[sour fulcrum]

how would u spend a lot of forma on lavos btw?

[coral crest]

Archon mods if you're building him like a health tank

Or even more drastic, triple umbra

[sour fulcrum]

curiously enough i dont use much the vigorous swap. altho it's a great mod, i usually dont spend 1 slot of wf with weapon dmg

[coral crest]

And still needing some archon mods

[coral crest]

Garuda's 1 and 4 are coded as a weapon

[sour fulcrum]

oh thats perfect. didnt think about that. lavos has all elements so it's abilities will benefit from all archons

[coral crest]

You can completely dump nourish that everyone for whatever reason is recommending for Garuda even though it's a massive waste of potential, and just slot vigorous swap

You can swap weapons while charging the blood ball and get 165% multi dmg

[sour fulcrum]

very interesting to know garuda benefits from vigorous swap like that.

[coral crest]

Her abilities are coded as weapons bc her passive is coded like eclipse

[sour fulcrum]

it's indeed a weapon, the talons.

[coral crest]

So everything benefits

[sour fulcrum]

even archon flow would makes sense for lavos altho he doesnt uses energy at all

[coral crest]

Flow is the one he can dump

And stretch doesn't have any upsides for him too over normal

But he can be a good user of intensify and continuity

And since it's a health tank you need adaptation

And a source of armor

And boom, you're already like 3 forma deep

[quiet laurel]

lavos can also easily passive gate

[coral crest]

He can, but we are taking about specific cases

He's clearly meant to be used as a health tank and is designed as such

Like Grendel

[quiet laurel]

many frames are yet its better to shield gate

[coral crest]

So?

Ok?

[quiet laurel]

its the unfortunate state of health tanking

[coral crest]

We are not talking about that

[sour fulcrum]

i almost never use these sort of mods that increases shields/armor/vit etc

[coral crest]

Yeah, health tanking is usually very forma intensive

That's why all health tanks have some sort of scalable source of dmg reduction

Except Lavos, because he can do everything else

And sadly pays a lot for it

[quiet laurel]

and then there is qorvex, health tank with no DR

[fierce depot]

so where can i find all the common build pages like the crab sweat one? i figured i should keep track of those

[coral crest]

He has invuln state, that's something

Lavos has no proactive survivability unlike other health tanks

[quiet laurel]

its in wfcd iirc

[sour fulcrum]

wdym?

[fierce depot]

wfcd iirc?

[quiet laurel]

warframe community discord if I recall correctly

[coral crest]

Pretty much all of the frames that are designed to survive with their health have some sort of passive or an ability that gives damage reduction that helps to soak in more damage or straight up prevent death as a proactive measure

[fierce depot]

wait so not this discord?

[coral crest]

Except Lavos, he only has heal

[quiet laurel]

nah this discord doesnt have much focus on builds

[coral crest]

This is just an official discord for discussion and news

[blissful bone]

https://tenor.com/view/lavos-gif-9044154106113381118

[coral crest]

If you want congregation of everything else there's an unofficial community discord

[fierce depot]

ahh ok

[sour fulcrum]

the only thing he has is status immunity

[coral crest]

Yeah pretty much

[quiet laurel]

and if you want good build advice instead of just build advice then there also are the endgame discords

[coral crest]

But they'll fry your brain

With people acting like children in 99% of cases

[fierce depot]

aye i'll probably stick to here then ._.

[coral crest]

Community discord is fine

If you need something out of there

They have bots to evaluate and track stuff

[fierce depot]

i was gonna save all of these kinds of builds just to keep track of em

[coral crest]

Can always check Overframe in edge cases

Ninjase usually has good builds with extensive explanation

For pretty much 90% of equipment and frames

I don't really care much for copying builds but it seems popular enough, anyone correct me if I'm wrong

[sour fulcrum]

i guess copying is a good starting point. and then u tweak on simulacrum to see what works for u. eventually ull be learning the mechanics.

at least thats how i do.

[fierce depot]

the sad thing about overframe is that some weapons really need their builds to be updated 😅

[sour fulcrum]

yeah lot of that are old, gotta keep track of the update version

[coral crest]

Usually anything post jade Shadows is fine

With the armor changes and all that

[fierce depot]

i'll have to keep that in mind

[abstract axle]

Imo, default slotting range over elementalist is wrong. Range is only gonna outperform on high followthrough weapons

[fierce depot]

wait is elementalist really good?

[abstract axle]

the bigger deal is it's another source of multiplicative scaling, while range is actually not nearly as useful as one would think

due to the nature of influence, you already clear higher density pockets of enemies faster than low density

[fierce depot]

huh, neat!

[abstract axle]

a big part of this is that follow through divides the damage per person hit, so witha 50% follow through weapon hitting one person does 100% of your weapon damage, hitting two will deal 150% (100 to the first target and 50 to the second), hitting three will deal 175 etc, so even hitting 10 enemies will only deal 199% of weapon damage. Influence means it all bounces, but if range extends you from hitting 3 people to hitting 10, thats still only a meager 25% damage increase compared to elementalist, and hitting 10 enemies is rare

[quiet laurel]

range is mostly for QoL on hitting the initial target anyway so you dont have to be in the enemies face

[abstract axle]

fair for anything 1.5 or shorter, otherwise goofy

[fierce depot]

ahh ok

[coral crest]

The 15m Thalys range meta

[abstract axle]

thalys has horrid followthrough, but its passive blanks that factor, as the shard damage don't care

[fierce depot]

at this point im just gonna be asking about random weapons, but one more thing i was wondering is, is it good to have animal companions late game? i never really bothered with kubero or kavats, but if they ever add hunting hawk/falcon companions i would use them all the time

[abstract axle]

pets can literally clear rooms if you want them to. They can also keep you alive, and most importantly, they are free. but yes, pets are good.

[spare glen]

I mean I'm still using the kavat smeeta, the free double drop buff are always welcome

[fierce depot]

woah i didnt realise they were that good O_O

i just wish we could get birds T_T

[abstract axle]

tbf, them killing rooms crutches a long standing bug/feature, but yeah. You'd think birds wouldn't be too difficult, considering they could just use the robot movement

[fierce depot]

or dante's owls, gahhh i want birds in warframe so much!!!

i wish i could ask DE if they ever plan on adding bird companions

[abstract axle]

on an aside, why are so many incarnon genesis rivens cheap?

[fierce depot]

so i was wanting to use scindo prime because Axe! but im wondering if i should just be using Gram Prime since it seems it's better in every way?

wait incarnon genesis rivens?

[coral crest]

8 billion people being more likely to buy dual tox instead

Or anything else that's considered top of the line meta

Or being advertised enough

Like dark sword

You need a youtube video for a riven to be worth anything

[quiet laurel]

moug glazing dark sword is so funny, like all it does is good dmg, it has like no range or anything

[coral crest]

You create a youtube channel, gather subscribers and collect rivens

[fierce depot]

i still prefer my incarnon prisma skana

[coral crest]

Then make a video like

Top 10 underrated weapons in warframe

Sell your rivens

[fierce depot]

but yeah is there no reason to use the scindo prime over gram prime?

[coral crest]

Grofit

[coral crest]

I think they're similar enough you can go for fashion

[abstract axle]

it's a lot faster for starters

[coral crest]

Oh right

Speed

[fierce depot]

like when i compare the two

[abstract axle]

Best real argument for scindo is disposition

[near snow]

anyone down to give suggestion for a xaku prime build?

[abstract axle]

Xaku is kinda weird. They feel really bad until you have the build fully done

Also they really need invisadog

[coral crest]

Does xaku really need it

With passive dodge chance and all

[abstract axle]

Dodge Chance is capped at 75, that's not enough on its own

[near snow]

im new but i got 2100 plat so

im willing to spend some money on mods

[coral crest]

I mean with something like passive gate

[near snow]

the total build was like 113-120 plat for the xaku frame mods

[coral crest]

Recast Xata if shit hits the fan

You'd probably have augur reach anyway

[near snow]

opinions?

[abstract axle]

Untime rift is really bad

[near snow]

fr? isnt it good

[coral crest]

It's not really that bad

But it's the only synergy Xata would ever have with the rest of the kit

[near snow]

alr im new so idk whats going on but the video is https://youtu.be/YuXyK1-RN-Y?si=Vtp6hzjQVDWjhAJ7

newest one so why not

[abstract axle]

This isn't bad, but I'd call it subpar. I'm mainly skeptical of both going negative strength and not subsuming off xatas, because it doesn't buff the 2.

Mistyped range instead of strength lol

[near snow]

so it doesnt buff grasp? i mean the void damage makes up for it tho

[abstract axle]

Xatas whisper does not affect grasp

[near snow]

all good

yeah but in the video the grasp itself is doing pretty well

[abstract axle]

It's the major malfunction in xakus kit, and should therefore be dropped for roar

[near snow]

xata ---> roar?

what does xata do again

roar buff everything thats all i know

[abstract axle]

Xatas adds void damage to weapons

[near snow]

remove xata ---> roar and astral bond?

what abt that

[abstract axle]

It has a lot of janky interactions where it counts as an extra hit

Astral bond might be fine, but that's goofy imo

[near snow]

okay so basically xaku is a messy frame and shouldnt be a beginners first frame

[near snow]

i mean adds void

[abstract axle]

Absolutely not lol. I'd put them as harder to build than 90% of frames

[coral crest]

Original xaku is really "endgame" in terms of acquisition

[abstract axle]

I think requiring operator weaving for damage is too janky

[near snow]

atleast someone gave it to me for free, alright what do i go for then

[abstract axle]

I mean, you only have to build them once

[near snow]

you know what never give up never back down

[near snow]

yeah ur right xaku feels like a deadbeat without a proper build

[near snow]

what would be a good starter frame

[abstract axle]

Which frames do you have that you like?

[near snow]

give me some suggestions and ill look into it and see if it fits my play style

[abstract axle]

First things first, do you want a weapons platform or a caster

[near snow]

id like a caster

but if you are talking someone like volt who can benefit from weapons then sure

i like attack speed

[abstract axle]

well, if you want the best caster in the game, nokko is currently busted in half

[near snow]

ill look into nokko

[abstract axle]

nokko can solo Archimideans without weapons or mods

but thats because the warframe devs were silly

[glossy cliff]

what do you guys think its better?

[near snow]

dawg what

[abstract axle]

i'd lean to the first one, but maybe go second since fire rate is really nice on bows

[abstract axle]

me and my friends confirmed. Nokko's 4 does too much damage, and he can't really "die" with his kit

[near snow]

alright he look like a goofy frame icl but i want an attack speed ish frame

[abstract axle]

ok, attack speed you say? Gauss is great for that, (farm the prime, not the base, it takes forever).

[near snow]

ive seen guass builds and things wait what about mesa is she easy

like to build and everything

[abstract axle]

mesa is pretty easy, especially since fortifier is easy to get. do you have the steel path unlocked?

[near snow]

mr4 im on pluto bro 💔

havent been at it lately

[abstract axle]

oh hold on lol. play whatever. Early on, i'd go rhino just because he doesn't die in low level content

[near snow]

yeah ill just go with rhino or volt

smth easy

[coral crest]

And uniquely unlike most casters his 4 can reliably damage bosses, so he doesn't even need a weapon for that

[bold pike]

thats pretty far for mr4 nice

[abstract axle]

yup. nerfs when, DE

[near snow]

i thought i was underleveled bro

[abstract axle]

do you know how leveling in this game works?

[near snow]

yeah like build stuff

and max out things

but i got finals soon and after it i can grind this game as much as i want

welp goodnight guys cya tmr

[modest atlas]

Which one? For Acceltra P

[abstract axle]

-damage=instant toss

[modest atlas]

Yee but the left has + mulishot x +Crit Dmg, and +Status chance. Ya think one on right is better tho??

[abstract axle]

-zoom is so much better than -damage

3 vs 2 would matter more if you didn't roll status, since thats kind of a whiff

[icy light]

Attack speed, Volt.

Or well... Wisp. Wisp's probably better on that front. Her Speed Mote is made for attack speed up

[fierce egret]

Did yall know you can energy tank in Warframe?

[abstract axle]

garuda has entered the chat

[fierce egret]

No with anyframe

[abstract axle]

by all means, expalin

explain*

[fierce egret]

It's all thanks to a modern called quick thinking

[abstract axle]

quick thinking is not effective at higher levels unless you've got better tech

[fierce egret]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Quick_Thinking

[abstract axle]

getting your energy bar one shot is rough

[versed harbor]

u can be one shot through quick thinking too its basically a limited alternate hp tank

[patent igloo]

yeah but there's no damage for the multishot and critical damage to build on

holy dumb

[solar reef]

if you plan on using it, neither

Arguably not worth using even a godroll on the acceltra

its riven disposition is just too low

the best thing to pull imo would be a dual status riven of choice

[solar reef]

you could also just shieldgate and use less energy

[fierce egret]

Try Valkyr with primed flow and arcane battery you'll get 1500+ energy

[quiet laurel]

valkyr is invincible anyway

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-dog-sleeping-sleeping-dog-dog-sleeping-tiny-eepy-dog-gif-2292331323183720739

[carmine dew]

@short mauve general is moving a bit fast so i'll post it here but basically the formula for acid shells aoe is this

(450 + 45% HP) x (1+toxin mods) x ( 1+ toxin mods + other elemental mods) x (1+faction mods)^3 x (1+status damage)

so specifically you want toxin mods, hence why you pick cold bc youre gonna want to slot the toxin mods anyway

[short mauve]

i was following 2 guides for weapons but one is of the 39.0 and other of this one and idfk what select

[carmine dew]

used to be that people picked mag progenitor so you got mag as well but magnetic strafe takes care of that now

yeah the left is the old build, it still works though

[tacit pebble]

Is a riven mod for the pennant thats covers crit damage, crit chance and status good?

[patent igloo]

cc + cd 😋

[short mauve]

so... the right one is the good one i suppouse?

[carmine dew]

looks like the right is corrocold? not worth doing on the sobek imo

[short mauve]

oh damn so nevermind then the left is like better or smth?

[carmine dew]

elec sobek is a thing, though more for cyte

[tacit pebble]

Huh

[quiet laurel]

isnt aoe just faction and hp

[tacit pebble]

So is it?

[patent igloo]

yes

[carmine dew]

After testing, the Progenitor Bonus, Critical Multiplier and Base Damage all do NOT affect the Toxin DoT of Toxic Lash when triggered by [Acid Shells] AOE explosion. The formula for Toxic Lash DoT scaling from [Acid Shells] AOE is :

(450 + 45% HP) x (1+toxin mods) x ( 1+ toxin mods + other elemental mods) x (1+faction mods)^3 x (1+status damage)

As you can see faction mods TRIPLE DIP, toxin mods DOUBLE DIP while elemental mods and status damage mods single dip on the Tox Lash DoT.

[tacit pebble]

Ahhhh okok

[quiet laurel]

oh you mean toxic lash + aoe

[carmine dew]

yeah we talkin about sobek

[short mauve]

then.... i dont really know its so confusing not gona like oraxia buffs weapons with MORE toxic aint it?

[carmine dew]

thats what her 4 does

[short mauve]

add elements makes it more flexible