builds-discussion

[midnight horizon]

Galv scope isn't really necessary

[alpine haven]

what is elementalist mod?

[midnight horizon]

And viral can easily be offset on robodog or uhh panzer

[alpine haven]

sorry for the noob question

[midnight horizon]

A mod that gives yet another multiplier to your DoT

[severe bough]

Increases your dot dmg

[charred gale]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Rifle_Elementalist

[alpine haven]

ooh

[haughty pagoda]

Elementalist multiplies all damage over time effects from status

[midnight horizon]

So you got like 6 different sets of multipliers going on
Serration
Elementalist
Sharpshot
Crit
Multishot
Aptitude

[alpine haven]

i kinda like scope for now, since i use Nataruk permanently scoped in while Camping on survival missions

[midnight horizon]

As in, all these stats are multiplicative to each other

[undone dust]

set is bugged rn

[wanton widget]

Darn

[alpine haven]

wait
can DOT crit?

[midnight horizon]

DoT takes its base damage on the hit that gets shot on the enemy. If that hit crits, then the DoT will take that crit as a multiplier

[charred gale]

yes, they do more dmg with more crit

[haughty pagoda]

Only mods on the warframe contribute to set bonuses currently due to a bug

[alpine haven]

oh ye
what does Primed Shred do?

[midnight horizon]

Basically DoTs inherit all effects from the initial hit

[midnight horizon]

Increase shooting speed (fire rate, which gets doubled for bows)

In a way that is ALSO a multiplier

You multiply your DPS with how fast you can shoot arrows

[haughty pagoda]

And lets nataruk hit through walls a little bit too

[midnight horizon]

Yeah pretty neat

Stacks with the punch through from elementalist too

I should lwk use nata again shouldn't I

[haughty pagoda]

Yeah! Still works great

[midnight horizon]

-# I deleted it
No problem tho, simaris should have copies

[haughty pagoda]

Yup, 100k standing

[midnight horizon]

Brah.. 100k.....

Please tell me there's a way to multiply simaris standing gain

[haughty pagoda]

Higher level enemies give more per scan, and stealth scanning also does
And the daily target for free 10k over normal standing cap

[midnight horizon]

Hmmm.. I'll give it a try

[nova marlin]

Question - has anybody tried if Oraxia's "Webbed Embrace" works with Vauban's Bastille for quick armor stripping of enemies?

[gray iris]

for getting your daily standing done what i like to do (other than the simaris daily target) is go into either POE or orb vallis, fly high up in your archwing and scan them, if you’re high up enough they don’t move, best to do it on steel path aswell. can get 300-400 a scan

[chrome badge]

wouldn't work i don't think as the bastille'd enemies are floating off of webbed and vice versa

[nova marlin]

I'm trying to revive my Vauban and make it usable in 2025 Warframe and I'm thinking that Webbed Embrace Helminth + Bastille + Flechette Orb could work well in a combo

[chrome badge]

ummmmmm vauban is fire

[alpine haven]

the only one stripping is me

[nova marlin]

Yeah that's what I'm wandering if the enemies need to stand on the web...

[chrome badge]

pause?

[nova marlin]

With what build?

[chrome badge]

in general iirc his flechete scales

theres some gimmick about it that makes it op i can't remember tho

[nova marlin]

This seems to contradict what you're saying...

[chrome badge]

well like i said, i don't think it would work, i don't know if it would

[nova marlin]

Guess I'll have to try it out and see. It also does Toxin dmg so it should be easy to check if Bastilled enemies are ticking Toxin dmg or not 🤔

[chrome badge]

plus i don't feel like get vaub or sacrificing my oraxia on a whim

[nova marlin]

I already have Oraxia subsumed - just wanted to know if anybody tried it yet or if I'm the first 🤷‍♂️

[alpine haven]

i got the whole carnis set in one mission

[chrome badge]

oh yeah https://overframe.gg/build/273105/vauban-prime/galactic-immunisation-program-scaling-viral-flechette-dps-one-shot-level-cap/

apparently fletch scales faster than enemy health so yeah op ig

[chrome badge]

too bad its semi-useless :3

[alpine haven]

i see

[chrome badge]

i wonder how ninjase feels

for like carrying 70% of the wf community on his back

[charred gale]

ask him

[chrome badge]

im not asking him, he's gonna pull up on me like violence and just magislam me

[solar reef]

vauban is plenty usable in 2025

he doesnt even need a subsume

[nova marlin]

I have 0 idea who that is or how he's "carrying" wf community.

[solar reef]

he makes a lot of builds on overframe

[chrome badge]

he's a giganerd and is the top-rated builder on overframe

he does like all the research on builds and interactions with frames and weapons

[midnight horizon]

Like they should just subscribe to his yt channel already

[solar reef]

saying hes carrying the warframe community is a crazy statement

[nova marlin]

Oh, the site that about 20% of WF players know about and less than 10% actively use.
That site has a guy who makes builds and somehow carries 70% of the "community" - most of whom don't know he exists.
Makes sense 🫡

[chrome badge]

he kinda is, he does a lot of research and testing before publishing his builds

[solar reef]

ok but like, not everyone uses overframe/youtube for their builds, and even less are finding Ninjase’ builds

[charred gale]

hes so nice tho😭

[chrome badge]

ok perhaps 70% is an overstatement still his contribution is really meaningful

[charred gale]

hes literally THE build guy

[solar reef]

he’s always chill when i find him in build chat

[charred gale]

exactly

[charred gale]

i think u mean understatement

[chrome badge]

yes

i just woke up ;-;

[charred gale]

literally 90%+ of the overframe builds i see sent here is from him

[solar reef]

ive only ever copied one build and it was Kavat Volt

was not a fan

[charred gale]

i like making my own builds too

[chrome badge]

same

[charred gale]

kavat volt just looked a bit clunky

[mellow nest]

The main value of his builds is the guide section, not the build itself

You dont usually get this kind of detailed info in such a condensed format

[chrome badge]

mhm

[charred gale]

i might start doing that when making a new build, ive always just looked at the wiki and just went from there

[chrome badge]

i don't even use his builds i just look at the guides for niche interactions like nourish affecting flechete??? thats not stated anywhere i don't think?

maybe in the wiki but im too lazy

[solar reef]

yeah, it is when actually building it, but once you get it going its automated

basically you only have to get one or two finishers

after that the sand kavatas, in theory, keep themselves running for the entire duration of your mission/endurance

i just personally didnt prefer it

[alpine haven]

is there like a build where Galv Scope is useful?

[chrome badge]

yes

[solar reef]

every acuity build ever

[chrome badge]

acutey

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/shy-anime-shy-cartoon-cartoon-shy-anime-reaction-gif-8001811158180873413

[chrome badge]

lmao

[alpine haven]

what is Acuity?

[alpine haven]

oh

wait how does one get that mod?

[solar reef]

it had some stupid interactions with some weapons, but got fixed

so it doesnt see a lot of use now

[chrome badge]

it's like common for 1999 drops

i have like a hundred for no reason

[solar reef]

Its crit chance boost was multiplicative with some projectiles

[alpine haven]

oh damn
can i have one?

[chrome badge]

no.

[deep grotto]

Understatement means too low
Overstatement means too high

[alpine haven]

understandable
have a great day

[deep grotto]

So that’s an overstatement because you think his contribution is less than 70%

[chrome badge]

is there a midstatement

[deep grotto]

that’s just a statement

[charred gale]

yeah its too low

[solar reef]

a midstatement is just a statement

[alpine haven]

on that note
how hard is 1999?
I think i'm almost there

[solar reef]

its not

same difficulty as any other story content

[chrome badge]

uhhhhh its an absolute banger

love 1999

[deep grotto]

The enemy levels are 50-65 or something so
If you can already handle that, you should be okay

[alpine haven]

i see
I'm on this quest rn

i think this is the prereq quest for 1999

[deep grotto]

No?

[solar reef]

the prereq for 1999 is catching up to all the main story before it

[deep grotto]

Have you beaten the New War

[chrome badge]

no?

[solar reef]

You have to finish the New War and the Sanctum stories

[deep grotto]

That’s Jade Shadows, isn’t it?

If so it’s not a prerequisite for literally anything

It’s just a quest

[solar reef]

people forget that Jade Shadows is like a side quest

[deep grotto]

1999 is after whispers in the walls

[deep grotto]

Because it’s peak

[chrome badge]

its not just a side quest 🥀

[solar reef]

I didnt care too much for it

[deep grotto]

Technically it’s a warframe quest

[solar reef]

aside from the ordis lore drops, it was meh to me

I think Jade in general is weird, the whole baby thing was even weirder to me in the actual quest

That and I think 50% of its hype is just from the Stalker being present

not to say its a bad quest or anything, it just wasnt for me

[chrome badge]

🥀

[alpine haven]

no note jade shadow

[deep grotto]

What’s the quest called then lmao

(Why are we talking about this in build chat??)

[solar reef]

my personal favorite quests are Chains of Harrow, The Sacrifice, and The War Within

[solar reef]

It be like that sometimes

[alpine haven]

oh my bad i forgot which chat this is lol

[chrome badge]

build chat is just a social construct

[solar reef]

my gender is build chat

my race is build chat

I am buildchat

WE are buildchat ❤️

[chrome badge]

pronouns build/chat

[solar reef]

my pronounces are W/A

I used to go by Ro/ar

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889

[abstract cargo]

you guys have a build for tenet glaxion without faction mods?

[chrome badge]

all the time, banes are mid

[alpine haven]

nvm i was dumb

it wasn't one of the prereq

[chrome badge]

bro just casually put a banger quest on hold

😭 🥀

[alpine haven]

i failed the mission

my Railjacking skills are bad

[icy light]

Heyyyy considering my skills now. Kuva Kohm? Should I get it done?

[chrome badge]

kuva kohm seems like it'd be fire with elec and blast with crux

[icy light]

I remembered hating Kohm back then. I was pretty inconsistent with headshots till I enabled gyro controls.

I gotta kill the boyband... and then I'll be free with hunting Kohms.

I guess... should I aim for Electric Progeny or Fire Progeny? Or Cold? Any?

[hard dove]

mag

[chrome badge]

huh

oh

mag

i was like progeny? caliban got elemental minions now???

[icy light]

Progenitor. Progeny.

Warframe's the progenitor. The progeny is the adversary.

[alpine haven]

this was hella quick wtf

[chrome badge]

wrong place to discuss bud

[quiet laurel]

thats an interesting build fr fr

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[alpine haven]

I'm building a family with the lotus

[chrome badge]

pause?

[deep grotto]

Huh- 😭

[abstract axle]

lowkey this game needs nerfs to make builds interesting again

every melee weapon should go influence, even if its a bad holder, and nokko barely needs mods to solo end game content

[rare stag]

roar or nourish for revenant?

[carmine dew]

roar unless youre wanting to use a weapon that cant take viral

[rare stag]

what about shards?

dont think he even needs them tbh

[undone dust]

just strength shards and cast speed if you want to mess with reave

[plain trout]

Okay I think here would be better for asking build improvements as in general they are talking bout other things

[quiet laurel]

general isnt a good idea to ask for build advice in the first place

[plain trout]

yeah I reckon

I'll wait for help while I go to do something else

[grave cloak]

eximus spawn rates are pumped up compared to any other tilesets

other than that it's not difficult at all

[abstract axle]

keep in mind thralls apply nourish viral, so its gonna be full stacked on everyone

[jovial hatch]

do revive passives like Wukong or Nidus work during SP Apex Solo bosses?

I NEED TO KNOW

[abstract axle]

If I recall, its weird

nidus isn't a revive passive, its a cheat death like phoenix renewal, so it works

[jovial hatch]

ON THANK GOD!!!

[abstract axle]

sevagoth and inaros are dead during it so theirs don't work

nokko should be, but I suspect isn't since his works during archimedean

[rare stag]

i can get 379% strength rn,,, do u think nourish would be better?

also whats a good weapon for killing the fragmented bosses fast?

[abstract axle]

roar is gonna outperform at that strength hands down. As for a weapon, I recommend incarnons because ammo becomes a legitimate concern. Last I did it, nothing kills fast, but with the nerf to attenuation, you may be able to kill faster.

[rare stag]

yeah i just took 23 minutes killing the bounty one because i only took nukor

so just bring a incarnon them

are there any good ones on rotation rn?

[carmine dew]

angstrum on reset would be my biggest rec

furis and latron the week after that

the zariman incarnons are evergreen and always good, though

[abstract axle]

laetum especially now with enervate

[rare stag]

what abt braton?

heard it was like a sidegrade to burston

is it worth it?

[chrome badge]

its like trumna but worse i think

[rare stag]

isnt non crit laetum generally better tho?

[chrome badge]

no

[astral tinsel]

definitely not a sidegrade

[abstract axle]

Braton is definitely worse, but worse than burston leaves plenty of room to be good. I think its good, not great.

[chrome badge]

crit laetum is fire asf somehow

[astral tinsel]

depends

[abstract axle]

crit laetum hardcore outperforms now thanks to enervate, allowing you to stack the 1200% buff AND crit

[astral tinsel]

crit is better due to headcrits

[wraith haven]

Is braton prime+ Incarnon good or no?

[carmine dew]

eeeeeeeeeeeh

[astral tinsel]

a bit bland but decent

[abstract axle]

as above, good is relative. lower end of the incarnon rifles, but still better than most other rifles in the game

[wraith haven]

So...stick with torrid gotcha

[rare stag]

hmm okay then

can yall share a build for crit laetum then

[astral tinsel]

I'd take both boltor and soma incarnons over it

[abstract axle]

keep in mind you don't want any additional status or crit chance to allow you to stack the damage buff reliably

[wraith haven]

How would I improve this btw?

Ie. Make it grab more enemies and do more damage faster cause it grabs a good chunk of enemies but not all of them

[astral tinsel]

fyi the +1200% is base damage

[abstract axle]

lowkey no reason to do that with nokko. Just max range and let it bounce on by, no clumping required

[astral tinsel]

so hornet strike is just under +17% dps

[abstract axle]

yeah, but im kinda out of stuff to slot

gunfight maybe?

[astral tinsel]

lethal torrent

[abstract axle]

yeah, that tracks

[astral tinsel]

or sharpened bullets

[wraith haven]

I'm clumping because of satisfaction, not because of utilities.

[rare stag]

arcane velocity would be good right

with the laetum

[abstract axle]

I mean, it is a pistol

[grave cloak]

crit laetum is super sus tbh

might as well use cestra at that point

[abstract axle]

I mean, also use cestra

[chrome badge]

cestra 💀

[abstract axle]

but how are you gonna call a top ten pistol sus

[grave cloak]

as in, building laetum for crit is sus

building it for non crit is like the whole point

if you want a crit laetum just use cestra

[abstract axle]

as above, crit build handily outperforms noncrit

[grave cloak]

you stress tested it or?

[quiet laurel]

crit laetum basically has same result and can scale higher

[abstract axle]

yeah lol, but the math aint hard either

[grave cloak]

habibi just use cestra at that point

[quiet laurel]

or use laetum

[abstract axle]

do you think cestra is better than crit laetum?

[grave cloak]

easily

I use it for 60 eyes

I use it for level cap demolishers

🤷‍♀️

[abstract axle]

this is lowkey the problem with warframe, a lot of guns clear those

[quiet laurel]

laetum has multiCO no?

[abstract axle]

I think so, but status chance interferes with the crit buiild

[grave cloak]

are we lowkey sure you can clear 60 eyes or janus vor with any weapon? 🤨

[abstract axle]

lots =/= any

[onyx monolith]

1 cast speed or 2...

[severe bough]

Personally only use 1

[onyx monolith]

itll let me throw on one more orange shard

[abstract axle]

also, demolishers are kinda soft post attenuation change

[grave cloak]

tbf I haven't actually tested demolishers past level 2k yet

after the nerfs that is

[abstract axle]

haven't pushed to level cap since, but everything is way squishier, espeically if you don't have a dedicated build.

[grave cloak]

usually have to stop around round 29-31 of disruption because of stuff but yeah wouldn't be surprised if they're super squishy now

[astral tinsel]

no

[quiet laurel]

das crazy

projectile but no multiCO is so weird

[abstract axle]

speaking of, does anyone have an up to date gunco spreadsheet?

[grave cloak]

I usually just use the wiki and ctrl + F and type in my weapon name tbh

[onyx monolith]

on the contrary, co doesnt apply to half of laetum's damage...i think its about half

[delicate galleon]

does anyone have a good rhino prime build?

[analog stirrup]

As long as your energy economy is set, you are good to go. From there you just want as much power as you can muster for your roar buff and range if you want to use his 4 for some crowd control... Or just ignore his 4 and go all in power/duration...

He's a simple frame, no need to overcomplicate.

[subtle fulcrum]

CO doesn't apply to the AoE.
The single-target value is around 25%

The mod doesn't apply to any AoE

[hybrid harbor]

Does someone have a good whip khora build

[toxic cypress]

what could i improve on this build?

[grave cloak]

replace gladiator might with galvanized elementalist
replace voltaic strike with shocking touch
replace amalgam organ shatter with blood rush
show us the riven

[toxic cypress]

Its just cc ic no neg

[grave cloak]

I'd reroll that riven tbh

[toxic cypress]

i have 200 kuva

[grave cloak]

Unfort

[toxic cypress]

but i will

[bold pike]

yea, it seems decent for heavy attack spam though

[grave cloak]

Ideally you'd also add a tennokai mod in the exilus

But once you get more kuva just keep rolling the riven

[toxic cypress]

rerolled the riv

got this thing

[solar reef]

its better than sacrificial, I guess

[quiet laurel]

you want range, attack speed, elec, crit dmg, crit chance, -slash,

positives being in order of priority

nami solo unfortunately one of those weapons where the negative kinda matters cause -slash is huge

[wise nebula]

Fellas, I just happened to roll a Hate riven with crit chance, attack speed and status chance. With the 60/60 fire mod I reach 93% status chance, but slash damage seems to be greater. Should I use a pure fire damage mod instead of the 60/60? (Yes, I'm using Burning Hate)

[astral tinsel]

for a heavy spam build or

[wise nebula]

Tenokai build

[severe bough]

To my suprise influence does still work on light hate if u use elc ( yes it does combine to rad ) but it still procs more elc procs instead of rads ( aswell with projectiles )

Jut curious if priming heat with another weapon works so burning hate gets active

[buoyant plume]

should I go for violet archon shards with crit damage on atlas with arcane battery or tau forged red with crit damage?

[severe bough]

Would go at least 1 cast speed the other ones can be violet cd

And wouldnt use battery

[buoyant plume]

I went with two cast speed

[severe bough]

Sure also alr

[buoyant plume]

so what do I substitute it with?

I mean, it's working pretty well so far as long as I have enemies I can kill

[severe bough]

I use molt augmented but u can also go aegis for Qol if u feel like u need it

[buoyant plume]

I use both molt and battery

[pallid plaza]

Can somone explain ricochet mechanics? Like if I shot a single bullet and it hits. What dictates how many bounces? Will punch through make the bullet bounce more? Is the bounce path random like maybe it hits the body maybe it hits a weak point

[severe bough]

I mean u get ( when ur rubble armor thing is up ) a total of 880 energy or somewhere there with pflow u get to 755 so technically battery is better but i dunno how the sustain is of the armor ( cuz is const draining itself )

[astral tinsel]

Ricochet count is weapon specific. Bullets that punch through create ricochets on every hit. I believe most ricochets target enemy centre of mass, but there are exceptions like dual toxocyst incarnon which specifically targets heads.

[buoyant plume]

in lower level content when going solo your armour sustain does suck, becuase not many enemies that you can kill, but as long as there are a bunch of enemies around you it's pretty good

ramping it up at the beggining is a bit hard but one good petrify and you're golden

[severe bough]

I cant say anything bout that till i go to higher lvls with atlas just tested it out in simu

[proud anchor]

Gaining the armor isn't bad since you're invincible during landslide and using either path of statues or petrify keeps you topped off on rubble

[severe bough]

Then igs battery works better i assume?

[proud anchor]

Yep

[severe bough]

I love the gyre weapon platf its great especially with vastilok influence

[sinful bone]

is longbow sharpshot post-modding calculated damage or is it treated the same as serration

[proud anchor]

After mods

Pretty much a separate damage multiplier from everything else

[sinful bone]

oh neato

it'll work on dread incarnon then

[proud anchor]

Yep the wave still can hit the head

[sinful bone]

yeah

maybe acuity is the move on Dread Incarnon here... unless multishot is favorable for incarnon mode

[mighty flare]

ms is better for majority of scenarios

[sinful bone]

I'll try both

[mighty flare]

you need to have insane head accuracy for acuity > ms

[sinful bone]

I'm good asf with headshots

so I'll see

[quiet laurel]

isnt dread like paris where it has high initial ms

so in that case ms by a large margian

split flights will spread the shots further apart so higher AoE too

[sinful bone]

if that's the case maybe I'll do arma galv chamber

[quiet laurel]

go split flights fr fr

[sinful bone]

oberon paladin is gonna be so goated I can actually feel it

oh yeah what would be a good secondary for paladin theming

lowkey I was thinkin Epitaph

or Grimoire, but Grimoire is kinda cheeks...

[unkempt arch]

Hey question, can the 30 second respawn timer of Panzer Devolution be affected by mods like Medi-Pet Kit, Restorative Bond, and Tenacious Bond?

[potent bramble]

is this somewhat good build?

[potent bramble]

gladiator might behind the riven

[severe bough]

Dont need to mod for viral better of only using elc

[astral tinsel]

acuity is just a really bad crit mod on dread incarnon

[potent bramble]

like raw elec?

[astral tinsel]

it's locked at 1x weak point damage, so the other bonus is wasted

[severe bough]

basically, switiching out all the other Elemental mods aswell as glad might for atk speed mod galv elementalist ww and br

Bane can also be replaced with Galv elementalist or atk speed ( if u got any kind of external buff )

[potent bramble]

im not using bane mods

[severe bough]

Then dont use it

[fresh surge]

why?

[severe bough]

If he doesnt want to

[potent bramble]

tried something, came up with it

[fresh surge]

i mean you said it like it's bad to use them

[potent bramble]

i personally find bane mods annoying

[severe bough]

Bane mods are good but most people dislike them

[fresh surge]

yea but you can't deny there are very strong that's what i'm getting at

[potent bramble]

yes yes ofc, its my personal preference tho

[fresh surge]

swap voltaic strike for weeping wounds

[potent bramble]

its annoying to me that before starting a mission i need to switch mod cuz otherwise my build is shit or if i forget to etc

[severe bough]

Was about to say that too

[fresh surge]

yea i don't bother with them too i only consider them at level cap

[potent bramble]

you get my point

[fresh surge]

i mean you have 3 tabs for a reason but i get the point

[potent bramble]

here

i suck at builds but i stil llearn :3

[severe bough]

Everyone can learn tbf its more about reading then really learning

[potent bramble]

that too.. my weakness

[olive coyote]

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[deep grotto]

That depends on your progression

What’s the most recent story quest you’ve done/are playing?

[olive coyote]

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[astral tinsel]

and your mastery rank?

[olive coyote]

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[hot totem]

How do i deal with acolytes with my shade xaku?

[mighty flare]

slam

[coral crest]

Slam/Gun

[deft cairn]

unveiled a Vectis riven yesterday, been having a lot of fun using it on Prime with Primed Chamber

not the greatest Riven roll but i wanted to do it with a Blast status setup anyways, so it saves having to slot in Depleted Reload

[outer laurel]

How does blast and void bubble interact?

[scarlet marlin]

hi guys this is my gauss prime build
im still new to the game and dont fully understand modding yet and i want some help modding him
i want to increase his rush speed but not to be crazy fast yet deal a lot of damage with his skill

[mighty flare]

looks fine for starter, once you get more arcanes, you'd wanna use fast deflection over redirection and arcane aegis over resistance

[gritty hound]

Why does catalyze barely tickle accolytes?? It was a 1 shot iirc

[novel bear]

Did you prime them?

[gritty hound]

Yes

[late bronze]

Here's an update on this build: I made it and it's working pretty well. I took it to SP Murmer Survival, and it performed quite well. I swapped Transient Fortitude for Nira’s Hatred and didn't equip Mobilize, using only Prime Flow (I'm broke as hek). Everything else was the base versions.

I find that his 1 is really good for grouping enemies for his 4.

[sinful bone]

does the 20% melee combo count chance in Quickening's description mean I get a 20% chance for my melee combo to go from 2x to 3x on it? just making sure to see if it means that or the small number

[fathom sky]

Small

[sinful bone]

hmm

what are some good ways then, to build up combo counter quickly without help from like, rauta

[fathom sky]

You just hit things

[sinful bone]

. Yea makes sense

[astral tinsel]

get more attack speed

[high yoke]

I’m not smart riven wise what do I chose

[fathom sky]

-Ms or anything you'd mod on a weapon normally is immediately a dead Riven

So go left

[high yoke]

I thought the incarnon can’t be affected by ms

[fathom sky]

Incorrect

[high yoke]

More cd but no ms or sd buff

[fathom sky]

Yeah right is just worse

[azure tinsel]

what should i hunt for on furis

[fathom sky]

Idk by right is really good

[azure tinsel]

is fire rate used on icarnon?

[high yoke]

Oooooo cc

[fathom sky]

No CD so lame

[fathom sky]

Dumps out more status faster so yeah just good

[azure tinsel]

cool, ill stop there then, thank you!

[queen parcel]

how should i build the paracesis?

[hard dove]

You don't
But crab sweat probably if you want to force it

[queen parcel]

?

[hard dove]

CO, Range, AS, bloodrush, galv steel, weeping wound, elec, flex, tennokai

Ideally faction on flex

[warm crane]

Anyone have a Volt build the maximizes the ult range or just use ult to kill map wide?

[limber dust]

Anyone have a favorite build for doing extended survival/continuous missions? (i am talking long enough you will want a build that lets you walk away for a minute or more after 3hrs in) - currently eyeing Wisp or Oberon near the top of the pick list.

[crimson osprey]

So i know tier lists are subjectiuve, but is hildryn prime any good?

[sinful bone]

really good

[crimson osprey]

im building her now.

[sinful bone]

I use breach surge over her 1 and she just tears shit up

[crimson osprey]

nice. im coming from equinox/baruuk/dante lately

[sinful bone]

just max out strength and range

duration is super meh and efficiency barely matters with hildryn if at all

[crimson osprey]

alrighty, ill keep that in mind

spent 30 relics for the bp- never got it, ended p buying it

[deep grotto]

Visiting this again
holy punctuation
On another note i'm not getting rid of my umbral slots because i'm not spending forma to repolarize them
Getting galv elementalist tho

nvm don't have enough vitus lmao

i... might rid myself of Sac Pressure though?

[woven berry]

Guys I screwed up and need help lmao

I clicked 'auto-install' by accident and I've fixed it up mostly but I can't figure out what the last mod is exactly to get the Strength back up to where it was before

Unless this is right and it's a visual bug because of Precision Intensify

Oh lmao nevermind

it is a visual bug

the last mod is Adaptation

[wild rune]

I mean it's not really a visual bug, the only thing they could really do is put an asterisk on it if Precision Intensify is equipped, specifically to say "(CurrentStrength + 90%) for Fourth Ability"

[woven berry]

It's been like this since Precision Intensify was released

[wild rune]

if they made it so Precision Intensify was included in the stats screen, that'd be even more confusing because it doesn't apply to the rest of the kit

[woven berry]

They could just make it not reflect on stats

Warframe players don't read but "fourth ability stronger" can't be that hard to understand lmao

[wild rune]

okay wait I'm realizing what you mean now
but yea, if they could just put an asterisk or something about the fourth ability being stronger, that'd be all they need to do

like the status chance breakdown

[woven berry]

Yeah that too

[pallid plaza]

I do but I am away from my machine ill post it in a bit

[crisp pine]

i have problem with survivablilty... with this build for sevogoth he does keep dying and I do deathgate and get souls. However, it does take a bit to kill things in steel path. any suggestions?

[hard dove]

Kill faster subsume roar

Spam 1 when shield break tho

You should self sustain even without roar with how much kill you get

[sinful bone]

having a LOT of fun with this Oberon paladin build

[crisp pine]

the roar would be neat if that could be used during the death gate.

[sinful bone]

oh yeah Sevagoth's biggest "problem" is his survivability

he trades off a lot of it for bursts of nukes tho

[crisp pine]

what nuke lmao. i do not see it power yet.

[pastel igloo]

this any good? came up with it on my own dunno if i could improve it somehow

[sinful bone]

idk I don't play sev but my friend does and they get 3,000,000 nukes a second

they also get downed a LOT tho and need either for me to revive them or to revive themselves with death gate

maybe try Arcane Aegis?

[crisp pine]

yeah but it was still not enough. he does to often. so i have no idea to fix that

[sinful bone]

rolling guard over fast deflection?

[arctic karma]

https://tenor.com/view/peabody-sherman-warframe-hypnosis-hypnotize-gif-1539235486479045049

[regal pulsar]

still figuring out how alchemy works, why does my status effect turn to blast after adding hellfire? what determines which status takes priority?

[sinful bone]

because hellfire takes priority, think of it going like a list. it's going from cold > heat > toxin

[pastel igloo]

priority is left to right and then also innate elements have goofy linking mechanics

[sinful bone]

I forgot, does acceltra have innate heat?

[regal pulsar]

Ohhh i never knew this thats cool

[regal pulsar]

Nah, just impact

[sinful bone]

yeh

I'm guessing you want viral right?

[regal pulsar]

Yep

[sinful bone]

simply put the toxin mod RIGHT next to the cold mod

you'll get viral and heat that way

[regal pulsar]

neat it worked

thank you :0

[sinful bone]

there ya go

no problem

[pallid plaza]

There is room for improvement thing to remember too is that your fourth as volt wont kill in SP. Dmg kinda tapers off with more and more ability power so the best way to scale it is with range and hitting as many things as possible

[sinful bone]

I just use volt 4 for large scale stun

also survivability

[grave cloak]

take out fast deflection and vigilante vigor wtf

you also need the augment for his 2

[mellow nest]

Brother thats one way to react

[sinful bone]

honestly @crisp pine I'd recommend just going all in on his strengths and forget trying to compensate for his bad survivability

[grave cloak]

I mean tbf fast deflection and vigilante vigor brainrot has completely destroyed any form of creative building

[sinful bone]

also forget duration

do all strength and all range

[sinful bone]

I didnt even know they were a form of build slop. I only know of influence slop honestly

[grave cloak]

they are also completely unnecessary in any build anyways

active gating >>>>>>>> passive gating

[sinful bone]

yeah

oh yeah one other thing I know is how people put psf on everything

[quiet laurel]

I mean passive gating is the lazier version

[sinful bone]

that one... it kind of annoys me

[grave cloak]

don't be lazy?

[quiet laurel]

this is warframe my guy

people are lazy

[sinful bone]

he has a point

I think it's worth putting in the effort tho to be a little more engaged to make the most out of a build

[quiet laurel]

and active gating also heavily impacts your energy economy

its just more QoL in general

[sinful bone]

yea

regardless though he doesn't really need to compensate for sev's weakness in survivability

[grave cloak]

energy issues in the big 25

🥀

[sinful bone]

also he has equilibrium

he can active gate no problem to it

[quiet laurel]

equilibrium only works if you also have the KPM to match the casting costs

and OP said he struggled with killing

[sinful bone]

because he's putting duration on a str/range frame

and forgot the augment for his 2

[quiet laurel]

sevagoth do be very mod hungry

[sinful bone]

yea

anyway yeah I'm not trying to like, discredit the value of passive gating

just moreso saying like, he's just missing a few tools to make active gating be more valuable here

[quiet laurel]

I mean I also active gate on sevagoth cause he spams so many abilities anyway

[sinful bone]

yea

[quiet laurel]

but I hate people that go "this is bad cause its popular"

[sinful bone]

I get that

I moreso don't like it when a mod is just put into a build because it's a hammer that makes everything else look like a nail

e.g that one atlas build with PSF

[grave cloak]

it's not even because it's popular

it's an active detriment 99% of the time

[midnight horizon]

"It's bad because its meta" apparently

Strictly hating anything just cuz it's meta / popular is dumb

[grave cloak]

don't be obtuse, lazy gating on sevagoth is NOT the way to go

[midnight horizon]

People be racist against metas

[grave cloak]

man's already mod slot hungry

[sinful bone]

yea, nobody's saying it is the way to go. it'd be silly

[sinful bone]

my mindset is always "if it's meta, it'll be good but also extremely boring"

[midnight horizon]

Kind of the same thing

You gotta try it yourself first

And only then make that conclusion

[sinful bone]

I dont think I've been proven wrong yet either, Rev was super good but extremely boring

[sinful bone]

true

[quiet laurel]

mirage zaw is basically one shotting everything in the game and yet I still enjoy the gameplay loop

it really depends on what gameplay loop you like

[sinful bone]

is that meta

[quiet laurel]

its not known enough to be used by the braindead players but its one of if not the highest damaging loadout with 1 dmg instance with no effort

[sinful bone]

huh

[grave cloak]

unfortunately some people can be really silly at times

I had people in this channel tell me they would use empowered blades aura mod "just for me" because I told them dreamer's bond is a bad aura mod

so forgive me if I call a spade, a spade

[sinful bone]

empowered blades? never heard of that one

[grave cloak]

you can now see why some people can be really ridiculous 🙂

[sinful bone]

LMAO

yea

the only big thing dreamer's bond has going for it is its polarity and how it teaches newbies how aura mods work

[sinful bone]

it is cheeks though

[quiet laurel]

the Siah guy was its whole own thing tbh

[sinful bone]

that's messed up

[sinful bone]

just a cornball I'm guessing

[grave cloak]

yeah some people, when told their build is bad, get hyper defensive and will use a worse build "just for me"

which is.... okay my guy

[sinful bone]

yea

[carmine dew]

dreamer's bond is just the "I cbf using a forma for my aura slot" mod

I use it on a bunch of my frames lol

[sinful bone]

depends on how ya tell em, making fun of someone for having a bad build is a no but telling them that their build is bad is what they need to hear

[sinful bone]

honestly, the aura mod you have that is of similar polarity to the one in the slot will always be the better choice LMAO

[carmine dew]

some of them are pretty bad

pretty much all the madurai ones are ???

[grave cloak]

I mean you can see the context, all I said was "get rid of dreamer's bond" and "I rather have my teammate use a useful aura mod"

[sinful bone]

like if I had only steel charge OR dreamer's bond while building mesa, I'd rather take steel charge icl

[grave cloak]

to which he immediately and unprompted say "I'll use empowered blades just for you"

[sinful bone]

yea and he responded with that which is certainly something

[carmine dew]

yeah why tf would you do that lol

[sinful bone]

actually I found a lot of value in the madurai aura mods

[carmine dew]

a small bit of energy regen is better than a damage amp on a weapon you dont probably dont even have equipped

[sinful bone]

summoner's wrath, worthy comradery, steel charge, pistol amp, and growing power are all very solid aura mods

[carmine dew]

steel charge is sort of not total garbage but other than that that might just be you i think

[sinful bone]

you don't think growing power is good?

[carmine dew]

there are two good aura mods

corrosive projection and brief respite

everything else is pretty much meaningless

[sinful bone]

idk about that man

I think that mindset might hurt how you build a frame

[carmine dew]

the amp mods are just meaninglessly low damage

like pistol amp is 27% damage....

cascadia flare is 480% damage and is additive on that

[grave cloak]

I can see use for swift momentum, combo duration and heavy attack wind up speed is useful tools

[carmine dew]

amp is basically a rounding error

[grave cloak]

enemy radar for disruption to see demolishers faster

[sinful bone]

is growing power cheeks or something

[grave cloak]

growing power is okay ig?

[carmine dew]

most of the time brief respite is probably better

like 25% ability strength is again not much and you have to apply a status to get it

[grave cloak]

useful for builds where you need to hit a strength checkpoint for full defense stripping or something

[carmine dew]

if youre an ability spammer anyway thats kind of inconvenient

• you want to be spamming for your shieldgate

[grave cloak]

but since majority of builds don't really need to hit a do or die strength checkpoint I rather have another aura mod

[sinful bone]

how about worthy comradery

[carmine dew]

yeah even stuff like 260 str seva

i'm ngl anything that requries aiming in this game is genuinely a complete waste of time

you do not need to shoot literally anything in a weakpoint except thrax ig

[sinful bone]

cyte-09 is cooked

[carmine dew]

you can if you want but its a for fun thing

cyte09 unironically better using ogris or zarr or something

or sobek

his exalted is a weaker option than being a saryn clone

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OFfD171Jj1o

[mighty flare]

including pistol amp is genuinely insane, that aura is shit
steel charge is salvaged by its niche of giving slightly more capacity

[quiet laurel]

weapon class auras for guns with multiCO 🗣️

[carmine dew]

yeah i forgor steel charge gives 9 instead of 7

[sinful bone]

honestly I was under the impression that pistol amp was multiplicative

why is it 27% additive that's so ass

[grave cloak]

yeah the weapon amp auras are a bit

well I want to say special but

[sinful bone]

is steel charge not multi

[grave cloak]

it's also additive to stuff like pressure point

[carmine dew]

yeah theyre all additive

which is why corrosive projection is so good, that ends up being multi due to how armor works

[sinful bone]

absolutely messed up

[carmine dew]

1.6x against enemies with armor iirc

[mighty flare]

?

[mighty flare]

??

[grave cloak]

the mecha mod set can also be useful for status nuke builds like lavos/koumid/maybe dante? haven't tried on dante

[sinful bone]

explains why people only ever use brief respite and corrosive projection ig

they should make those mods multiplicative

[grave cloak]

yeah they're just bad af otherwise

not even "slot in empowered blades just for you" levels of bad

[carmine dew]

koumid 🥀

[grave cloak]

pensive

[sinful bone]

anyway

I finally got to try the Oberon rework with a paladin loadout I made, and man

it's so much fun

I'm also getting to see how the Dread Incarnon does and it's a lot of fun

it's really satisfying, just decapitating a group of enemies in a tight hallway while your abilities render them near helpless

[midnight horizon]

If only

[sinful bone]

ikr

[craggy copper]

What gun best to build for beginner?

[sinful bone]

the Strun is a solid choice, same for the Boltor

[craggy copper]

is that gorgon good?

[craggy copper]

mk1 strun or strun? which one to buy?

[sinful bone]

the Gorgon's pretty good, yeah

[sinful bone]

I'd recommend buying mk1-strun first, see if ya like it and also master it for mastery rank

and then craft the actual strun a little later on

[grave cloak]

what mastery rank are you rn

[severe bough]

What mr?

Cuz soma is a really good weapon to carry u through most of the base game content and quest

[sinful bone]

really

I never even used soma, I know it has an insane incarnon tho

[severe bough]

The weapon is okay its good but Not Great

[grave cloak]

the gorgon will be fine for your mastery rank. for melee you can look to get this weapon called "ack and brunt" if you have a clan dojo. it's a sword and shield that allows you to hide behind it to regenerate some shields if you get into some hot water

the blocking angle for swords and shields in general are also very lenient

[craggy copper]

How to get clan dojo?

[grave cloak]

oh you're not in a clan

to get a dojo you will need to be in a clan

you can join any clan that you come across in the recruiting channel tbh, a lot of them don't have strict requirements (as long as you're active is enough for most of them) and they also usually come with most of clan research done

[stark bobcat]

Which one do i pick

[grave cloak]

left and continue rolling

[stark bobcat]

Ok

[grave cloak]

hmm I'd take right

continue rolling is up to you

[stark bobcat]

Ok ty

[white lodge]

Anyone got a good build for nyx?

[gilded spoke]

Okay so we broke Xoris

Chroma makes it do damn near 345M dmg double red crits

[stark bobcat]

That is obtainable with mirage and my valkyr build but do tell the details

[pallid plaza]

Both mk1 first get to 30 sell then get the normal get it to 30

[rotund spade]

how does one build this to be great.

[hexed sundial]

primary blight is better than merciless because you already get ungodly amounts of base damage from savvy and the passive

and you'd want to mod for something like viral + another element

prob electric because primed charged shell exists

btw you can proc primary blight because the alt fire glaive can proc the 4 base elements: heat, cold, toxin, electric

[rotund spade]

thats great i have primary blight maxed out as for mods idk

[hexed sundial]

get magnetic strafe

[rotund spade]

uhhh where

[hexed sundial]

and instead of shotgun barrage put in something like primed chilling grasp and primed charged shell

[hexed sundial]

you can trade for it

[rotund spade]

ime trying to get vigilante supplies rn

[hexed sundial]

or get it from 1999

[rotund spade]

by anychance should i forma ?

[grave cloak]

No, don't waste anything on the cedo, get the cedo prime instead

[queen token]

So I want to get a primary for level cap which one is good I got
Coda basocyst
Cedo prime
Acceltra prime
Paris prime
I'm down for any suggestions maybe non incarnon ones cause I got to wait to farm them...

[autumn citrus]

Does anyone have a Vasca Kavat + Claws build? i want to use it but have no idea what to do with it

[grave cloak]

coda bassocyst and paris prime with incarnon are gamers for level cap for definite

[queen token]

Ic ty for baso wat should the element be

I have fire right now

[quiet laurel]

Only problem with coda bassocyst is gonna be gunCO stacks

If you run out your damage will tickle the enemies

[grave cloak]

you can use any element that makes sense tbh, it already has innate magnetic

[quiet laurel]

I forgor is blast default on basso?

I think so right

[grave cloak]

primarily yeah, the alt fire does have magnetic though

[quiet laurel]

For grineer corrosive and for corpus toxin

[grave cloak]

also to answer the rest of your qn. idk about cedo but I've heard it's a decent primer, haven't actually tried it. acceltra has serious ammo issues and may struggle in level cap.

[queen token]

Well I'm looking to run lvl cap cascade

I maxed out jade and huras is near completed should be my first run maybe In few days need 45-50k endo to complete

[grave cloak]

atb for it 🫡

[queen token]

🙂‍↕️ ty

[severe bough]

When doing meta arbi, loadouts are saryn/wisp/chroma/mirage with ogris but whats the exact thing u do? Frames i probably there for buffing weapons but what exactly is the start and why ogris

[halcyon canyon]

I know Gauss can nuke rooms but I'm still trying to figure out the order to go to attain it.

[vague jolt]

Does anyone have any Voruna builds? I've just acquired her

[versed harbor]

the idea is basically to use a bunch of buffs and use ogris with napalm to instakill enemies as they spawn

ogris is used in particular cuz big range and it kills drones so fully brainless

[severe bough]

Because of the augment ig

Weirdly dc from arbi wont work

[next fossil]

The red notifications make me mad, I can't stand seeing so many 😭

[next fossil]

I have one but don't get home till 1h

It's a mele build

[vague jolt]

@next fossil that's fine, I'll be on all day

[quiet laurel]

its a bitmuch to explain tbh

[next fossil]

Fair warning tho, vorunas survability is allways low because she doesn't have much armor

[severe bough]

To much clicking through and then its back red after 2 sec

[quiet laurel]

there is another one, iirc this one got nuked

[severe bough]

But mabye u can make it short or idk u have time just explain it

[severe bough]

Thats why the plan was to go on dc but the Channels wont show up i accept the rules

[severe bough]

How is it called ?

The same?

[quiet laurel]

arbitration goons

[grave cloak]

cast your 4, make sure to hit full battery by constantly moving and casting cold thermal sunder
once you reach max battery, cast 2 heat thermal sunders and detonate it with a cold thermal sunder

there's more to it ofc but that's the general gist.

[severe bough]

Crazy

[gilded spoke]

Arcane fury with Wrathful, built for high crit dmg with a riv that has cd cc neg punc, threw on electric gas (that both have the same proc chance) with a maxed out vex armor stat of 803% Fury (for the double dip into vex dmg) along with high strength and high duration. We use both weeping wounds and the crit chance that stacks with combo mod along with galv elemantalist and Tenoki mod that gives tenoki window cause we have no other tenoki mods

[deep edge]

does archon continuity procs on exalted wep? i tried modding my exal wep toxin but i dont see any corro proc, only toxin

[gilded spoke]

Oh and Killing Blow cause you WANT to constantly heavy with this thing

[fallen ermine]

It does, more fire rate and ms more corro proc chance

[gilded spoke]

Excal exalted blade you dingus

[fallen ermine]

U still can, just sucks..

[deep edge]

but why does it shows toxin proc instead of corro?

[fallen ermine]

Try max attack speed and go to simulacrum

You will see

[deep edge]

and no, im mentioning exalted wep in general lol

[deep edge]

aight ill go try

[fallen ermine]

Titania is best, mesa regulators is okay , melee exalteds are the worse ones

[deep edge]

ok now i see corro and toxin procs together. i thought corro replaces toxin?

[fallen ermine]

Acts as another proc on top of

[velvet pulsar]

It's not some augment

[deep edge]

so basically i will proc both toxin and corro am i right?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[deep edge]

trying to build xata blast titania

[fallen ermine]

Hella strong 💥

[velvet pulsar]

Enjoy the impetus stacks

[deep edge]

yeahthem red crits are fun

for whatever reason everytime i go in real game, i just dont see the corro proc. only the toxin

and the enemies dies so quickly i cant even properly check the procs

[fallen ermine]

Dw about visuals

Its less than 1 second ttk 😭

[deep edge]

i just 1 tap, everything in that area got deleted

[karmic quartz]

i got protea prime today, are there any tips yall have for building her?

also does she have a Yareli thing where an augment is almost must have for just arguably better gameplay

[fervent rapids]

Not really must-haves, but she does have some really good Augments

[karmic quartz]

could you explain which ones and why

also nice ENA pfp

[velvet pulsar]

Her 4th ability and 2nd ability augment are nice QoL
U can play without them too, but they make turret killing more comfortable

[velvet pulsar]

Her 3rd ability augment is... It has a synergy of its own

I do not recommend it on protea herself

[crisp pine]

There is just ability spam but the issue is that specific type of shield gating often makes a really energy hungry and if you run out, it become a significantly worse build overall. Also, not all frames can hp tank well. It is a lot of pros and cons.

[crisp pine]

I usually use active shieldgating if the frame is an ability spam frame where you constantly using them practically every sec. I am not sure with sev yet though on that.

[grave cloak]

? I never talked about hp tanking. I've never went for lazy gating on "squishy" frames like banshee, mirage, cyte, or saryn.

[crisp pine]

You did not mention that but i just mentioning it as one of the other options we have generally. (Aside from getting invisiblity and invul.)

[fervent rapids]

WIP build, planning to put weeping wounds in the empty slot. Cyclone Kraken farming is killing me so stuck with Sundering Weave for now

idk if I wanna replace galv elementalist with galv steel just for a more balanced build

[lilac grotto]

Hello, how long can u stay in a SP survival mission without triggering afk ban or acc ban

[fervent rapids]

the game counts afk based on player movement

[lilac grotto]

:< what if u use melee all time and transfer to operator once 30 sec, is it count as macro?

[fervent rapids]

literally just walk around a bit

[lilac grotto]

Ah I see thank you

( ￣▽￣)

[fathom tapir]

What arcanes shpuld i use for xaku

[pastel igloo]

i run gize/molt aug for general use

[fathom tapir]

Tank u

[fallow ether]

Hey so if I were to use this build:

https://overframe.gg/build/717054/sevagoth-prime/gloom-reaper-sevagoth-sp-general-use-nuke-crit-buff-slow-shadow/

and it recommends to use this weapon:

https://overframe.gg/build/267473/

Then couldn't I just use this one instead or something?

https://overframe.gg/build/465699/strun-prime/incarnon-strun-viral-electric-corro-blast-variants/

[spark wraith]

hello wanna ask, anyone know which one is better for my zaw wisp?

[mighty flare]

right, cc rolls usually arent desired for zaws

[spark wraith]

ok so cdmg right? okok

[mighty flare]

yes

[novel bear]

Any primary can work, it’s just some will get more benefit from shadow haze than others

[mighty flare]

preferably cd + dmg then as/element

[spark wraith]

hope i got lucky lol

[novel bear]

Sporothrix has higher cd and much lower crit chance than strun, so it gets much more from shadow haze, while also being a great status weapon

[glossy pivot]

Hey what choice would you make ?

[pastel igloo]

left

proj speed kills the weapon and punch through literally does nothing

[glossy pivot]

thanks

[crisp pine]

Quick question about health tank here. In order to make squishy frame tanky in SP (assume it does not have armour and has like 500 base health and no innate dr ability) would you need the following?

• Vitality and fibers (umbral or otherwise)
• 3-5 armour shards
• adaptation
• subme a dr ability
• armor arcanes to boost armour
• arcane grace or another heal source?
• maybe use acrane fortification for more armour.

[near vortex]

you would need a lot of investment to make a frame health tank that doesn't already have health tank qualities

[novel bear]

What frame is this?

[crisp pine]

I am trying list a set requurements.

[crisp pine]

I am not specified as it is more general rule that why i said assume a frame with 500 hp and no armour or abilities that help with health tanking or surivability.

Want to see what would it take or if what i listef is overkill.

[near vortex]

you can make Limbo sorta health tank with a QT build

[novel bear]

For base sp, something like 10k ehp and consistent healing should be enough

[chrome basin]

pls help idk what im doing LOL

[mighty flare]

squishy frames use mix of these

[novel bear]

Adaptation and a dr subsume should get you to 4K ehp

[grave cloak]

right and reroll

it doesn't matter in this case since both rivens are dead on arrival

so why bother wasting time thinking which roll you will pick

[autumn bane]

Is blast good on acceltra?

[grave cloak]

could work

[surreal dust]

Question about Dante build, would adding Summoner's Wrath be a good idea cause of the bird/dragon combo?

[autumn bane]

What's the optimal path?

[crisp pine]

Huh

[surreal dust]

Okay-
Thought I'd ask 😭

[coral crest]

Really not worth it

[grave cloak]

I usually just go viral heat

[near vortex]

do Mecha set when they fix it

it's really funny

[grave cloak]

is not worth it because the damage alone from the summoned birds are nothing spectacular

but yeah as overlord said, mecha set on any frame realistically that can status nuke (lavos/koumid/grendel) goes hard

[autumn bane]

Thank you

[near vortex]

roar over 1 with Encumber Noctua and Impetus
Very funny build

Furis has to be my favorite damage secondary in the game istg

Makes Mecha builds able to nuke, can outsource healing for health tanking, can Thrax kill at level cap

I wish the Mecha mark was more visible
Very hard to see in a crowd

[coral crest]

Temple too

Has a billion different guaranteed status procs

skill shots when aiming with Lizzie give you 3 stacks of the status listed on the icon + anything you modded with it

Even if the original dmg type got combined

[crisp pine]

Anyways maybe i could do some data testing with the aim of 10k ehp wth cost benefit anaylsis to see if it would make sense and compare it with both types of shield gating

Now... what frame is ideal for this....

[near vortex]

Usually not, but it's fun to try

[near vortex]

Nidus is funny for health tanking since he already has most of the requirements

[coral crest]

Nidus has health gating as well

[crisp pine]

No i am looking for a frame without those requirement as blank slate as i would also put shield on it to compare.

[near vortex]

Limbo

Quick Thinking is a mod that exists

[crisp pine]

Energy gating lmao

[coral crest]

Garuda energy tank with quick thinking

[grave cloak]

15 mod cost and it doesn't even guarantee protection if the damage exceeds the energy drain to save you 💔

[near vortex]

https://overframe.gg/build/762419/limbo-prime/local-limbo-too-cooked-to-die-beginner-intermediate-build-for-sp-arbitrations/
Ran this for a lot of my first time playing Limbo and it worked beautifully

[crisp pine]

I will look into limbo as he might be a good enough blank to compare and contrast investment vs surivabily outcomes

As i want to test claims or shield gating and lazy shield gating and health tanking. We not including energy tanking and other survisbilty tools. Lmao

[coral crest]

Romagnum doesn't disappoint

[crisp pine]

Also i can just do that quest again.

[near vortex]

Funnily enough, QT is a bigger boost to Limbo's EHP then Umbral vitality is

In combination with Primed Flow

[coral crest]

I should build limbo prime some day

After I'm done with Vauban

[crisp pine]

For some frames it is lmao

[fallow ether]

with this build, what melee to use and what build?

https://overframe.gg/build/717054/sevagoth-prime/gloom-reaper-sevagoth-sp-general-use-nuke-crit-buff-slow-shadow/

(if I didn't use shadow)

[grave cloak]

Use praedos for parkour velocity
Use ruvox for double jump ability
Use okina incarnon for sprint speed
In all 3 cases the build on the melee doesn't matter

[fierce depot]

so how should i build redeemr prime? all the overframes are very out of date soooo 😅

[near vortex]

If you really want a damage melee, something like Okina can't go wrong

[kindred herald]

whats a good disruption weapon

[mellow jewel]

Any way to make this build better? I'm going for a heat inheritence build with Loki with Jade's subsume

[quiet laurel]

heat inherit + jade subsume is anti synergistic

[mellow jewel]

I guess I missunderstood how the mechanic works than

My bad

[coral crest]

anything that can burst down the demolishers

[quiet laurel]

well you apply heat procs with neutral % via jade subsume so any other heat % applied after will have no effect on the DoT

[coral crest]

good single target something or just a general use whatever landmower incarnon you have

[mighty flare]

heavy spam duplicates/exposure
12x light spam influence (gyre/lavos) or raw dmg again

[stoic raft]

somehow i got damage cap with this??? i think i hit one of the steelpath corrupted crewman with it maybe with full viral proc and tenacious bond? does it add up?

[quiet laurel]

was the damage cap a negative blue number against non shield enemies

[stoic raft]

red, negative 2million or something

[quiet laurel]

likely crit overflow tbh

there is smth weird going on with animosity but idk what it is

when I used animosity back in the day before influence got popular I also hit crit overflow dmg numbers all the time

[stoic raft]

so, crit overflow a type damage cap?

[quiet laurel]

its a wrongly displayed dmg cap that happens when you hit a certain crit chance

dunno why it happens but its a thing

[stoic raft]

weird thing is i never seen my ack&brunt hit that damage either

[fervent rapids]

mannnn I want Nami Solo's Adapter now cause idk if I'll still be in my pirate mood when it rolls around

[mellow jewel]

Ahhhh. I see now

[gilded spoke]

Did no one have any input on our chroma build?

That’s the whole reason we posted it here is so we can flesh out what we don’t know/hadn’t thought of

[coral crest]

I don't see any builds

Last I see is the xoris mention

[gilded spoke]

Ohhhh

OH GODDAMNIT it didn’t send

Shards are Two tau purp for crit and energy two tau red for duration and strength and a tau yellow for cast

[coral crest]

Also sorry I'm not really well adjusted with chroma to give an opinion, just bringing attention to the build not being here

[gaunt sapphire]

what are some good warframes that dont require augments to be good?

hidden rule btw, if you say wisp you get turned to dust

[gilded spoke]

Well wisp is just good base wise

[coral crest]

Do we count good frames that just don't have an augment yet

[gilded spoke]

If you’re struggling with wisp you got issues

[gaunt sapphire]

wisp does not interest me

[coral crest]

Or do we only count those who have augments

[gilded spoke]

Skissue

[coral crest]

But you can be good without them

[gaunt sapphire]

idk, just warframes that are good wi th tout augments

[gilded spoke]

that doesn’t help any.

[coral crest]

Then I'll only mention those I actually played

[gilded spoke]

Tons of frames are good without augments you have to be specific

Or do we mean helminths?

Hol up what do you mean here?

[coral crest]

Zephyr, Xaku, Protea

[gaunt sapphire]

augments like augment mods

helminth is fine

[coral crest]

They have augments but they don't need augments

[gilded spoke]

Neither does chroma

[coral crest]

Most modern frames don't have augments and they're strong

[gaunt sapphire]

chroma cant scale i thought?

[coral crest]

Cyte, Nokko, Temple etc

[gilded spoke]

his base kit (we know we’re eating our own words here) is ACTUALLY BUSTED if you do it right

[coral crest]

Chroma has scales

[gaunt sapphire]

tragedy because i need to do the faction standing for temple

[coral crest]

He's a dragon

[gaunt sapphire]

cyte i cant get either cuz the materials

[coral crest]

Uhmmmm

Dante?

Octavia too

[coral crest]

It's mostly weapon buffing, right?

[gaunt sapphire]

what mission drops dante comps

[coral crest]

Mirror Defense in Sanctum Anatomica

[fervent rapids]

check "Build Requirements" on his market entry

[gilded spoke]

And health tanking

And shield gating

And companion invulnerability through Link Fiber

[coral crest]

I wish his breath was good

He's a dragon, and a clearly dnd inspired frame

How can his breath be not destructive

[gilded spoke]

It is good for force procing things like Hotshot and Burning Hate

[coral crest]

I mean for attacking purposes

[gilded spoke]

Actually no he’s not dnd inspired

He was in the works before the person (forgot the name) even thought of dnd as a Warframe idea

[coral crest]

Hm, neat

[gilded spoke]

(We’re a Chronic chroma Main)

[coral crest]

I'm not gonna lie, no offense intended

If people talk about chroma in 99% of cases they're a chroma main

So I kinda assumed as such

I should try him some day, at least the base form

Not a huge fan of gun platforms but his design is super cool

[coral crest]

What weapons are you using him with?

[tidal crest]

Should i use normal burston prime since i dont have its incarnon yet?

[humble garnet]

im trying to make a build for steel path grineer but this isnt doing it, what do i need to change to make it good?

[severe bough]

U can drop galv apitude cuz it doesnt work for bane or elementalist rime rounds for pcr last 2 slots for cd cc mods

Also switch thermite rounds to 120% heat Mod

[humble garnet]

whats cd cc and pcr

[fervent rapids]

crit damage, crit chance, not sure about the third one

[humble garnet]

aight

[gilded spoke]

Trumna Cestra plus incarnon and Xoris

[umbral shale]

who got a bulid for gauss prime i could use?
( im mastery 8 so i dont have acsses to alot of weapons )

[mighty flare]

equil doesnt have to be maxed

oh i forgot flow

[umbral shale]

and what weapon should i use?

[mighty flare]

whatever weapon you got rn is fine, complete the quests to get better gear

there are some weapons you can buy their blueprints off the market

[umbral shale]

i mean i got the bow thing

[umbral shale]

i see

[mighty flare]

look through there, i think soma is available

[umbral shale]

yeah

[severe bough]

Primed cryo rounds

[gilded spoke]

Crit damage crit chance and primed cryo rounds

[bold pike]

im pretty sure all of his parts are in rotation for the deimos disruption

[solar reef]

or get him through the vendor

either way its tedious

[wild plume]

@umbral shale you can replace some of these to fit your playstyle but this is what i run on him

[severe bough]

Wheres aegis and fast deflection

[wild plume]

who needs shields anyways

i dont have that mod lol

[severe bough]

it basically makes your invincible

[unique bluff]

Should I change it?

[wild plume]

id say no

[unique bluff]

Thanks

[wild plume]

100 rolls is crazy

[unique bluff]

Yeah can't stop

[solar reef]

100 is lightwork

[solar reef]

why even roll for acceltra

its riven disposition is in the dumpster

you’re better off just using actual mods, unless you want a dual-status roll

[fathom sky]

it being acceltra is the worse part, yeah

[solar reef]

even the base has like a .65

primes is probably .5

[wild plume]

this any good

[solar reef]

slottable over range, if you already ran reach

its not great though

but being slottable is enough

and given that you run crescendo(I’m assuming for heavy spam) Efficiency is aight

[wild plume]

yeah nokko makes for easy crescendo im loving it

[solar reef]

be sure to throw on a tennokai mod

if you’re just heavy spamming, use Dispatch Overdrive

as it won’t give you tennokai, but instead movement speed on Heavy Attack

[wild plume]

time for another forma

i forgot that mod existed

tbf i havent tried tennokai either is it fun?

[solar reef]

i dont prefer it but its just an outright upgrade for anything that isnt heavy spam

[pallid plaza]

Tennokai imo needs to be built into melee dropping combo when so many other things rely on it is silly

[solar reef]

since its free heavy attacks that don’t consume combo

[solar reef]

theres a gajillion ways around combo drop