builds-discussion

[coral crest]

80% of people use a panzer

10% use a sentinel

the rest is free game

let me feel special :(

[versed harbor]

idk mecha set is pretty popular so most kubrows breeds are used imo

[undone dust]

hildryn raksa too peak

[versed harbor]

still ur right sentinels etc more common

[coral crest]

I have barely seen people run with a kubrow

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Pharaoh predasite?

Does that count 🙂

[undone dust]

i mean it can use the mecha set so yeah it counts

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My koumei loves her mutt, THE CURSE OF RA

[coral crest]

also havent seen much

but it definitely counts

[quiet laurel]

Only cat I never see now is smeeta

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Yipe

[coral crest]

is it because people dont know about the nerf

or because they gamble on crit dmg

[chrome badge]

DAMMIT

[undone dust]

bro said never not ever

[coral crest]

oh

i misread

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WHY CANT MECHA WORK ON SMEETAAAA

[coral crest]

because cats get a piss zone

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it would’ve fit with koumei

[coral crest]

like irl cats

[chrome badge]

;-;

Irl Cats are of the vasca variety

[undone dust]

i wish kavats were better than just utility

[versed harbor]

ye cats are bad rn imo other than gimmicks

[coral crest]

theres always the one forgotten

charger, entirely used by nidus cult members

[chrome badge]

Clearly de likes dogs better

AIDS dog

[undone dust]

if chargers ever get the ability to use the mecha set i will happily use them

[coral crest]

i dont think they ever will

like kavats and kubrows charger gets its own dedicated set

the strain one

[versed harbor]

tbh im just happy most companions are usable nowadays in general lool

if theres a few that get shafted its worth it

[coral crest]

yeah 90% of them have a place

now about sentinel weapons...

[versed harbor]

💀

[undone dust]

me when only like 3 or 4 are actually used 💔

[coral crest]

i can say theres a weapon that pukes out corrosive and viral as a flamethrower and everyone would believe me

[undone dust]

a flamethrower sentinel weapon would be so sick

[versed harbor]

bring back the bug where any sentinel can use deconstructor prime

[coral crest]

bring back the bug where any moa could use hound weapons

i liked that one more

[high hound]

What are some good nezha builds for beginners

[visual glen]

Should i use a torid riven with critical chance and critical damage increased and if yes whati build thx

[pastel igloo]

this is what i run, arcane is up to preference

[stone lake]

Thanks!

[pastel igloo]

my riven is cc ms -z so same config applies

[quiet laurel]

what are the elements

[pastel igloo]

blast corrosive

[quiet laurel]

ight yeah thats good then

[pastel igloo]

you want cryo rounds, or better yet the primed variant so that you have much more blast weight

will a fire rate arcane on a warframe work with this?

cant test myself as i dont have it, guess it doesnt, but cant stop wondering

[sinful bone]

no

actually

let me double check

[mighty pelican]

no

[sinful bone]

yah no

[mighty pelican]

neither will decrees

[sinful bone]

it does work with warframe fire rate buffs tho iirc

although I might have to double check that

[pastel igloo]

oh that i can test

[sinful bone]

since I haven't played gauss in years

[pastel igloo]

hold on ill be back, lemme pull out my harrow

[queen token]

can koumei room clear?

[sinful bone]

man you'd think that the paladin syndicate would have the paladin augment mods ;-;

[sinful bone]

yeah

[pastel igloo]

doesnt work on harrow

[mighty pelican]

her 4 nukes

[queen token]

wat sort of build should i run

[sinful bone]

oh huh, might give gauss redline a try

[pastel igloo]

damn i really dont want to spend any more credits on another primed mod

but ig ill have to get primed point blank

bassocyst on default fr is uncomfortable as hell

[mighty pelican]

u can do a shieldgate build with range, long runs will have decrees buff your strength
or go less hard on survivability and buff strength for short missions

her augment is very mandatory for long runs

[pastel igloo]

this is all that koumei realistically needs

• her augment

which i dont have

[sinful bone]

redline works with secondaries right? I'll just do my lex incarnon

[queen token]

so another question on sheild gate is it just running brief respite n catalying shields?

[mighty pelican]

i personally am just using vigilante vigor, fast deflection and catalyzing shields

[pastel igloo]

@queen token

[mighty pelican]

im using aerodynamic to help with decree challenges

[queen token]

yea mb i saw that after typing

[pastel igloo]

ah aight

[charred gale]

u can just run a single augur mod instead of brief respite and its gonna do the same thing

[mighty pelican]

2 augur mods are for pistols so you can also outsource it

[coral crest]

It's cata shields

[pastel igloo]

they fixed the cata shields bug afaik

[coral crest]

Why would you need more than 1 augur

[charred gale]

Since when

[near vortex]

outsource auger mods to companion weapon if using sentinel

[pastel igloo]

very recently been trying to gate with just 1 augur, 100% efficiency citrine 1 and my shield gate was incredibly small

[quiet laurel]

99% sure its still a thing

otherwise it would be more known

[undone dust]

they have not

[pastel igloo]

actually yeah, my bad

ig i was tripping, sorry

[sinful bone]

@pastel igloo it seems like cannonade mods turn the fire rate completely flat, so abilities dont work either

[pastel igloo]

yeah i did mention that harrow doesnt work

[sinful bone]

I'm thinkin the same applies to like

primary acuity and multishot arcanes

[sinful bone]

yea

honestly though you don't need crazy fire rate especially for a shotgun

just spec multishot

[pastel igloo]

nah im gonna go get primed point blank and slot fire rate arcane, cause bassocyst base is just ass

[sinful bone]

oh bassocyst? then yeah fire rate arcane is the schmoove

you only need the one damage mod anyway so ppb should be goated

[pastel igloo]

oh im running gunco and damage cause someone told me it scales well on it

[sinful bone]

bassocyst and tenet arca plasmor are the only shotguns that I can think of with a tragically low fire rate
the latter I like to compensate for by turning it into the BFG-9000 with Mag

[pastel igloo]

not sure how true that is though, too lazy to actually check both mods separately o~o

[sinful bone]

I wouldn't know

[quiet laurel]

for bassocyst you want galv savy and a different base dmg modifier

[queen token]

oh ty

[pastel igloo]

oh yeah then it is true

[quiet laurel]

reason being they scale multiplicatively with each other

[mighty flare]

bassocyst is multico so you use galv savvy with another dmg% source

[coral crest]

Rauta also has even worse firerate

It's the slowest primary fire among shotguns

[pastel igloo]

but isnt rauta just a primer tho

[quiet laurel]

rauta is just there for combo gain

[coral crest]

Rauta is just for melee combos

[pastel igloo]

yeah so basically a primer, slotting alot of fr shouldnt be a problem

[undone dust]

piss poor single target primer that is also a melee combo stick

[sinful bone]

I honestly just use rauta in my valkyr setup yeah lmao

it's good paired with r5 primary dexterity!

[pastel igloo]

i use it only for zaws, its pointless for anything else

atleast from the stuff that i have

[quiet laurel]

why zaws

[pastel igloo]

cause i like to be in the air 24/7 with them

its more comfortable for me to keep 12x that way

[coral crest]

I smell contagion

[pastel igloo]

yuh

[sinful bone]

I need to invest in a Zaw for a Zangetsu build

[mighty flare]

weeping wounds for zawfluence
otherwise nah

[quiet laurel]

if you mean contaigion combo has no effect on it

[pastel igloo]

i use br ww

[quiet laurel]

unless it travels the 30m

[sinful bone]

I deadass just wanna make a Zangetsu

[quiet laurel]

thats a build

(not worth btw)

[pastel igloo]

idc tbh

i build what i like, that simple

youd be scared shitless if you saw my equinox build

[mighty flare]

coal

[pastel igloo]

im 100% sure im the only person who can actually operate it

[quiet laurel]

equinox kinda hard to build tbf

[limpid brook]

i was wondering if the elusive retribution augment was worth running, or put a subsume there and replace with something else

[mighty flare]

not a knower

[undone dust]

if it aint a duality build i have to kill you

[limpid brook]

baruuk***

[sinful bone]

br ww?

[pastel igloo]

combo status and crit mods

[sinful bone]

ooh

[undone dust]

tharros lethality is just better than ER imo

[sinful bone]

OH you mean weeping wounds and the other one

[pastel igloo]

you will never catch me typing out their full names, too effin long

[sinful bone]

I mean, wouldn't br ww be good on certain hybrid melee builds

[pastel igloo]

eh i have 2, 1 is duality for fully afk index other one is terrify day form, a very scuffed variant atleast

[sinful bone]

such as silva aegis

[quiet laurel]

its used on light attack builds

[sinful bone]

makes sense

you'd get no mileage on a heavy attack build lmao

[mighty flare]

some work

[quiet laurel]

iirc you use it on magislam

[pastel igloo]

it can be used there yeah

not essential tho

[sinful bone]

what would I build for with silva & aegis prime

[quiet laurel]

light attack influence slop

[sinful bone]

KMS

I HATE MELEE INFLUENCE

okay that's fine thank you

[quiet laurel]

everything thats not heavy attack is influence you dont even need to ask

[sinful bone]

alright

[undone dust]

inaros sandstorm stat stick slop

[quiet laurel]

build variety in 25 do be big despair

[pastel igloo]

i got so bored of influence i started to look for weapons that can get ~50% crit and build duplicate on them with tennokai hybrid

[sinful bone]

I'm doing oberon since I'd like a paladin themed loadout

[pastel igloo]

my personal favorite is nikana prime atm

it has ww and no br so i have all the slash procs i can dream of

[icy light]

Zenistar now resembles Oberon's smite a bit better now

[sinful bone]

it's just like, melee feels like it has no unique builds

[undone dust]

i mean silva could be heavy oriented with its aug

[pastel igloo]

found the build, its scuffed af aswell

[icy light]

Uhhhh Regor's Axe and Shield alr has that augment tbh

And its Exilus, not a regular mod so.

[sinful bone]

I know I'm not tweaking because all of my good melee builds have 80-90% of the same mods

[quiet laurel]

there are, its just that I recommend the best builds available and those are influence

[sinful bone]

yeah

[sinful bone]

what does 'Truth' do btw

[icy light]

Hmn. We have gunblades, we have a heavy gunblade due to a unique heavy attack... I kinda want a polearm with a gunblade heavy. :v imagine her.
Anyway "Truth" is just the point towards the Hexis affinity.

[sinful bone]

so I just get hexis affinity faster with a 'Truth' mod

[icy light]

Idk if it was... any affinity earned while under the burst is counted towards Hexis for the duration of the burst but?

Its more like you put a lens on it thst imparts it to a specific system.

Except in this case that lens is a Mod

[sinful bone]

I see

[icy light]

Wait didn't know Hexis was gas dmg. Hmn.

Consider that silva aegis hexis mod. Gas dmg is decent for influence build

[sinful bone]

that's a nice boost, so it's the same thing as the bursts I get in my hexis boltor incarnon

that's good

[undone dust]

yeah, the syndicate augments have the same buffs as the weapons

[sinful bone]

does gas carry electric dmg? or is it just the aoe that boots it

[icy light]

Aoe boost. Iirc its just gas dmg proc

[undone dust]

its not applied to the weapon, its just a burst of gas damage

[sinful bone]

I see

is there anything unique about gas or is it just area DoT

[undone dust]

it can hit heads so it can upkeep things like evade or anything with headshot kill requirements

[sinful bone]

so would a hexis burst contribute to an incarnon's activation?

[undone dust]

no, as that is just an aoe blast of gas damage, not the proc itself

[icy light]

Iirc I think it does genuinely spread.
Toxin bypasses shield.
Heat deals increased armor dmg.
Blast is well... Blast. Its also armor debuff(?)
And then Electric chains

[undone dust]

also i dont think gas can charge meters

[icy light]

Silva aegis does not have an incarnon, right?

[coral crest]

No

[undone dust]

it does not

[sinful bone]

it doesn't

[coral crest]

Only s&s that does is Ack and Brunt

[sinful bone]

it should I would heavily fw a silva aegis incarnon

[icy light]

I don't remember it tbh. But the Hexis boost is still gas dmg regardless of the weapon.

[sinful bone]

yea

I think I'll put that truth mod on silva aegis

[icy light]

I don't know what silva/aegis could do to improve besides maybe heat fields.

Like ichor's tox fields

[coral crest]

Having a better prime skin

[icy light]

whaaaat I like the mace.

The shield could look better but the mace is fine

[sinful bone]

I have the feyarch skin over it

[undone dust]

it just feels like a downgrade compared to the base tbh

[sinful bone]

yea

[subtle fulcrum]

Gas status effect creates a lingering DoT cloud (max 10 stacks), it moves with the target but lingers on enemy's death.

Toxin dmg bypasses shields, toxin status effect inflicts DoT to the target hit.

Heat status effect makes the enemy panic, inflicts infinitely stacking DoT to the target hit, it also reduces enemy armor by 50% over 2 sec.

Blast status effect adds a stack of potential dmg equal to 30% of your dmg (excluding elemental mods) exploding after 10 stacks or on enemy's death.

Electric status effect stuns the target, inflicts DoT which deals AoE dmg.

[formal sphinx]

running amalgam serration and okina's incarnon (+30% movement speed) with dispatch overdrive(+60%movement on heavy 15s).
my sprint speed is most is close volt buffed
Sprint Speed: 3.18
Mach Rush: 44.77m/s
Molt: 2.31x
without any crazy and coop buffs can I get any faster?

[chrome badge]

furax wraith?

wait nevermind

[formal sphinx]

could go praedos or innodem but those are tied to specific actions like sprint/parkour

oh arcane phantasm instead of vigor most likley but a more rare condition

[wild rune]

So would this be okay in theory, if I'm not doing hard endurance where a bane would be more preferable over PPB? Or is there a better "general" option that you would recommend over PPB, given the existence of Primary Merciless?

element is electric to offset the weighting of the riven, which is opening up these modding shenanigans in the first place

I was actually about to ask if basso had multico before I scrolled up

[mighty flare]

use deadhead over mercs then primed electric over ppb

[wild rune]

📝 noted

[weak saffron]

Whats best mods for melees and guns

[wild rune]

that is one of the single most broad questions you could have possibly asked
at least a little bit of triangulation would help here, like a specific weapon...?

[weak saffron]

Sorry 😅 I am new at the game
So I have the Ether Daggers and the Furis gun atm

[wild rune]

ahhh that explains it

you're not exactly at a point where the best mods are available to you
I'd recommend checking the wiki to see where you can get your hands on Critical Chance/Damage mods as well as the elemental mods
-# at this point I've forgotten what is and isn't given for free, too much has changed...

vip would probably be able to answer better than I

[weak saffron]

Noted ill have a look now thank u tho
Ow and im doing the story what mods are best for mag , excalibur umpra and is it woth buying any of them

[fathom sky]

To be frank you get squat from The Teacher

[mighty flare]

If you just started, then use whatever you have rn, basic +dmg% mods will work fine

You’ll get better weapons from quests too

[weak saffron]

Okay 😊

[severe bough]

How yall doing it with equilibrium? Using the mod or the shards cuz for me i almost use 1-2 shards on all frames which already boost my energy Economy and i can safe a mod slot most of the time for smth else last shard slots are mostly depending on the Frame just curious if its more usefull to actually safe the shards lots and just go with equi on frame or safe the mod slot ( tho shards doesnt provide that big of a boost as the mod itself )

[astral tinsel]

I prefer equilibrium on most

Frames that generate lots of health orbs can do with a lower conversion rate

[subtle fulcrum]

The choice really is tied to your abilities usage, equilibrium solves almost all energy needs for caster frames, while one or two shards ( I wouldn't use more than one shard for energy tho) can sustain your average builds.

[astral tinsel]

but those that don't kinda need close to the full effect

...and that would be a lot of shards

[coral crest]

Dont forget that sometimes

you can also just build energy efficiency

spare slot for efficiency can go a long way

on some can easily replace flow

[subtle fulcrum]

There are no "best" mods, mods exist to enhance your arsenal's stats, whether it is your warframe, weapons, companion etc... They all do different things and don't necessarily require the same stats.

Although for weapons you cannot go wrong with + damage, + multishot, + attack speed.

The rest is for later

[severe bough]

On ember for example rn using equi with totally works fine but i thought about switching to 1-2 shards instead see how that feels tho most of the time thats why i like to use shards more due to slots issues barely fit in on my builds sometimes i think switching them out for rolling guard but or if i have the Choice and play umbral int and blind rage then replacing umbral int with equi str is given so easily through either arcanes or other things

[subtle fulcrum]

Having 2 mods for energy economy (primed flow + equi) is the most basic set-up and shouldn't hurt the rest of your modding.
Can I see your build ?

[topaz idol]

Any great weapons / builds for stuff thats immune to status effects and doesnt have headshot multipliers?

Single-target

Mostly bc i have trash clear covered, i have acolytes etc covered, but sometimes there's some random nonsense that i just dont have any decent weapons for, like the book from scathing / mocking whisper

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whispers don't take status dmg?

i be nuking them usually

[topaz idol]

No the whisper is fine that i can headshot

The actual book in the second phase is the issue lmfao

[chrome badge]

...

you do know you're supposed to use your operator right?

[topaz idol]

No?????

[chrome badge]

to damage the book

[topaz idol]

Lmao TIL ig

Because i mostly be using status beams like ocucor or headshotters like burston

[chrome badge]

... it takes like 2-3 seconds to melt the book

[near vortex]

What

[chrome badge]

D:

[near vortex]

I did not know that lol

[topaz idol]

I think thats misinformation

[coral crest]

Lmao

[chrome badge]

nope

[topaz idol]

I need to look this up now

[near vortex]

I just kill them with my guns

[chrome badge]

you're supposed to destroy the book with your void beam

[topaz idol]

Wait huh youre right

[chrome badge]

its a voidy book

[icy light]

Heat has a cap. Electricity does not.

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ofc its weakness is voidy child

[topaz idol]

Wait wtf heat has a cap???? What is that cap

[chrome badge]

it doesn't have a cap???

[icy light]

Well. A damage cap. Not a stack cap. Electricity does not have the dmg cap. But just a stack cap

[topaz idol]

I've never hit it

[chrome badge]

oh

[topaz idol]

Whats elecs stack cap?

[icy light]

Two differing caps.

[topaz idol]

And whats heats dmg cap?

[chrome badge]

that makes sense for heat

at some point the heat procs just instamelt the enemy

[icy light]

Auuuuuuuugh

Heat dmg cap idk. Its niche except for cascade.

Electricity's stack proc cap is 10. Like the others excluding heat dmg.

[topaz idol]

Im fairly sure it isnt ill test in a sec

[chrome badge]

uhhhhh no? elec has no stack cap

[pastel igloo]

since when does elec cap at 10 tf

[chrome badge]

me when i lie

blast has a stack cap of 10 (tho not really)

[topaz idol]

Also ive literally never ran into the heat damage cap even in levelcap cascade

[pastel igloo]

prolly just talking about the number cap thing

[chrome badge]

that'd be hard to achieve without killing the enemy

[topaz idol]

Ok bc like you can EASILY oneshot levelcap thrax through overguard with heat procs alone

[topaz idol]

Its actually not

Furis can easily do it

[coral crest]

Phantasma?

[chrome badge]

ew i use elec blast furis tho i should change that ngl

[topaz idol]

Because if youre playing a fissure when they get corrupted theyre immune for like a full second

And i play mirage

[chrome badge]

mmmmmmm you're right

[topaz idol]

Which means i get absurd multishot for free

[pastel igloo]

phantasma might have reload issues

[topaz idol]

So you can literally oneshot them through overguard with furis

[topaz idol]

Immune to damage but not to status buildup that is

[near vortex]

Elec isn't capped at 10

I use elec on the Kuva Sobek all the time and I get upwards of 40 stacks on lower levels

[topaz idol]

Yeah also quanta vandal

That thing is INSANE for elec

45% base status chance, normally pure elec, base multishot of 2, base fire rate of 12

[coral crest]

It has like 0.00001s reload

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anyone still use convectrix?

[steel basin]

is ability strength even worth it for mesa?

[spiral solstice]

Anyone have any archon shards suggestions for Mesa? And any tips for this build. Tryna get her to Steel Path but honestly don’t know anymore feels like I’m just toying with her

[near vortex]

why base Vitality

why bellicose

[undone dust]

what on gods green earth

[steel basin]

holy

[spiral solstice]

😂

[steel basin]

let me share my build rq

im using this along with two tau topaz and 3 tau crimson

been working pretty great, the arcanes mainly help with building even more crit (using those archon shards for crit btw)

[undone dust]

yeah let me just snap my neck so i can read that real quick

[steel basin]

apologies, i dont own a pc

[undone dust]

what are you doing it on my lovely individual

[steel basin]

i was gonna replace mesas waltz with power drift, dunno how that would work out tho

[steel basin]

so far just spammin peacemakers, is this a bad build or..?

[spiral solstice]

Y’all funny😂 For the shards what are u mainly focusing on? I did secondary crit but it dont feel like its doing jack

[undone dust]

no i mean what are you taking screenshots on

the build looks fine

[steel basin]

oh! thats not a ss.

[undone dust]

im going to dr manhattan you

[steel basin]

secondary crit

helps alot

love seeing red n orange

[undone dust]

like what are you playing on

[dusty mulch]

does the firewalker mod affect null star with augment?

[steel basin]

adarza kavat helps too, along with the arcanes im using

[steel basin]

ps4 🫩

[tired thistle]

anyone know what incarnon upgrades I should be using on my braton prime?

[steel basin]

almost got kicked cuz a limbo used his abilities

[undone dust]

you can grab captures off playstation app

[steel basin]

apart from the fact that i take horrible photos, would applying power drift do anything for my mesa

or is it a waste

[undone dust]

eh, not too much tbh

cunning would do more but thats really only if you use muzzle flash

[steel basin]

eh

[undone dust]

actually if you go the precision intensify route then power drift would be good

[steel basin]

im just tryna make my mesa shoot abit faster

it already packs a punch, shes just a bit slower when it comes to killing everyone in .5 ms

[undone dust]

afentis, furax with amalgam mod, and reinforced bond

[frigid crater]

When building for a 100% support Oberon, strenght becomes a dump stat?

[steel basin]

totally forgot about reinforced bond, tyvm

[mighty flare]

No

[undone dust]

what does your peacemaker build look like?

[undone dust]

oh yeah also the fire rate mod for grimoire exists if you want to squeeze even more out

[pastel igloo]

is ash 4 a finisher?

[steel basin]

would there be anything for atomos? been using it to proc heat for mesa so i could build the amber shards extra crit rate

[undone dust]

there is not

grim is the only secondary that can boost fire rate im pretty sure

[steel basin]

pretty solid if i say so myself

[royal radish]

okay i need someone to explain how on earth 300% strength

[steel basin]

just uh

the status effects that they proc are kinda wack

[chrome badge]

intensify, aug secrets, transient fort, blind range, bellicose

[steel basin]

thats on me though, ill change it a bit later (gonna get primed heated charge)

[spiral solstice]

100% wack would work fine on another’s (probably)

[spiral solstice]

Random question why’d u decide to use combat discipline ?

[undone dust]

oh this is actually basically perfect

[chrome badge]

yeah wheres your arcane avenger?

[steel basin]

arcane avenger

[steel basin]

on the far right, i just didnt take a pic of it mb

[chrome badge]

im blind

sorry it is there

[undone dust]

definitely go for hotshot when you can as thats just better

enrvate is also a method if you dont want to jump through hoops for a bunch of crit

[steel basin]

not outburst? thought its better since the combos get consumed into crit chance n dmg

[undone dust]

hotshot is a warframe arcane

[steel basin]

which should i replace then, velocity or avenger

[undone dust]

avenger

if you have a max hot shot ofc

[steel basin]

holy ur right

only got 4 plat n a dream though

[coral crest]

Who are we building?

[undone dust]

the 300% is additive compared to avenger's flat 45% but im pretty sure hotshot can just be thought of as a flat 75%

[steel basin]

mesa, i think the green guy needs more help with her though

[undone dust]

its something around that

[steel basin]

why only 75, math aint mathin

[undone dust]

because that would be if it was flat like avenger

the 300% is additive, so mods like pistol gambit

avenger just gives you 45% outright

[steel basin]

do yk where i can grind for hotshot

rn

[undone dust]

ETA or vosfor packs from loid

[steel basin]

dunno how to do those, havent grinded enough

[undone dust]

you unlock ETA after 1999 and hitting r5 with the hex, you unlock vosfor packs when you beat whispers in the wall iirc

[steel basin]

ahaha, more grinding. yippee

[near vortex]

Thoughts? Using this for ETA

Do I need flow or nah

[undone dust]

weapons plat nidus my beloved

[near vortex]

might do tau blue for energy max over Flow

[undone dust]

eh, if you can get enough enemies for vir's energy gain then you really dont

since only his 1 and 2 actually take energy

[near vortex]

yeah true

[toxic cypress]

is this a good rev build idrk how to build rev

[undone dust]

also you might benefit more from bellicose over avenger for teeming's crit and just overall boosting parasitic link's damage buff

[near vortex]

need avenger for Zymos
Might take off Teeming, not sure yet

[undone dust]

does teeming's crit not boost zymos's clouds?

[near vortex]

teeming is just primaries

what if I did Larva Burst

Larva Burst Archon Continuity

[undone dust]

larva burst is buns

just run abundant tbh

[near vortex]

nah, abundant is bait here

its ETA

[undone dust]

i feel like if you're constantly losing stacks due to dying then you definitely need to fix something

[coral crest]

Abundant is always bait

[undone dust]

but you can just run insatiable for higher stack gains then

[coral crest]

I wonder how good it'd be with the new Hema augment

[near vortex]

Probably very, can't wait to try it

[undone dust]

my eta nidus just goes full into health tanking (almost 30k hp)

[near vortex]

need to ge there first

[coral crest]

Perfect Nidus weapon

[undone dust]

i could probably hit 30k if i ran damage decoy and impetus over bellicose

[viral forge]

Any tips on making my Oberon better?

[edgy verge]

which one better?

[toxic cypress]

right one looks more appealing imo

[near vortex]

triple augment Nidus gaming

I should put something else over Insatiable but I don't know what

[wraith haven]

How would I improve this? Any thoughts opinions?

[pallid wagon]

chat what do we think about this

[granite ginkgo]

which end first, the ammo or enemy hp

[pallid wagon]

enemy hp

well both since im using the soma with harrow lol

[old marsh]

u want mag cap for soma. that is more important than even crit dmg

coz Hata Satya + Crux

[pallid wagon]

ahhh well i dont have the hata so im just using this

[old marsh]

get it. u r gonna love it with Crux. basically a minigun with red crits

[pallid wagon]

it gets the work done
but even i havnet played the game in a minute

[pallid wagon]

bett

[old marsh]

it used to be an ok-ish mod till we got crux

[granite ginkgo]

it usually between use the augmentw weapon or the riven, dont need to have both

[old marsh]

true but if the riven can give u status+elemt+mag then why not. or cd+dmg+mag

its basically replacing a 60/60 mod for a better one

[distant abyss]

What’s some good arcanes for stynax?

I intend on spamming 4 and 3

[old marsh]

would like to know as well. but u deffo want molt efficiency. coz u want max dur for his 4

cant say about 2nd arcane. could be anything really. energize/augmented/steadfast

[mighty flare]

Use umbral intensity or transient fortitude over intensify. Use Phoenix Renewal over streamline

[grave cloak]

take off rolling guard, amar's hatred and mesmer shield
put in narrow minded, blind rage and primed flow

[grave cloak]

arcane truculence/arcane energize/arcane arachne/molt augmented/molt efficiency

pick 2 of the 5

[grave cloak]

Your 4 is also your subsume slot btw (although to be fair, with how the way rev's kit is designed, 1 and 3 are also justifiable subsume slots)

[solar reef]

god roll if you want to utilize solely the incarnon

tragic roll if you want to use generic machine gun soma

As base soma is set on its mag pool

[pallid wagon]

be using the majority of the time

[late bronze]

found this really cool build, but before I get into it, should any modifications be made to it or is it fine the way it is?

[solar reef]

i would drop truculence and just run nourish over his 1

nourish is absolutely vital for upkeeping his 4 for overguard and dps

then put on Arachne in place of truculence, as Styanax’ 4 is weapon coded, and thus benefits from Arachne’s damage boost

truculence would be better for him if he wasnt so energy hungry

Nourish is the only way his energy regen can keep up with his 4th, and does truculence job of spreading viral

[novel bear]

Nourish and rally point gives you basically infinite energy
So no energize too

[solar reef]

it will play the exact same way as the build you sent a picture of, just more sustainable

[novel bear]

Arachne is good for buffing his 4’s damage

[solar reef]

we LOVE weapon coded abilities 🤑

[late bronze]

Don't really have a subsumed grendel

[solar reef]

should absolutely shoot for that, as his subsume is a great qol to have on hand

its one of the most popular subsumes for a reason

but yeah, until you get nourish that build will work

you might stall every now and then due to slow energy regen, but thats all

[late bronze]

That come at a future date, I don't have both enough vitus for any of the locators since I may have spent them all on galvanized mods but is it nourish or nothing or can truance be good?

[solar reef]

nourish is significantly better as it provides qol on top of priming viral

They both prime viral, but nourish also multiplies your energy gained

[novel bear]

Nourish also primes viral on the enemies you’re hitting, instead of the enemies around you
Which is more useful

[solar reef]

if you’re spamming his 4th, which is how you activate Truculence, and how you survive with overguard, you will run out of energy, and have to wait on your 3rd to give it back

where as with nourish there is no down time

the truculence build will work

its just way less convenient and may get annoying at times having to wait on energy

[ripe dove]

Any trinity players here? Wondering how do I play trinity efficiently and be a good support

[solar reef]

But until you get nourish that build will work 👍

[late bronze]

I do have other methods for energy like equilibrium and zenurik

[solar reef]

you ideally want to run madurai with him as it gives you much needed casting speed and strength

equilibrium really just isnt enough with him

but it will hold you over until you get the good subsume

I also recommend running a tau energy shard or two

i run 2 energy, 1 casting, and 2 strength

my end build winds up with like 340% Strength or smth stupid

I also want to preface this, as I also have a lot of time on styanax, he gets really boring really quick

so theres no shame in not going full investment

[near vortex]

Anything I could improve here
This build looks and feels pretty nice so far

[pastel kraken]

Anybody have a good gyre build. I’m trying to get into new frames id usually never touch

[mighty flare]

this goes with nautilus or any other external grouping you have
subsume can be anything like roar/shock trooper but would need equilibrium over transient

[pastel kraken]

I would make the build now but gyre primes coming soon I think so I’ll hold onto this. Thank you

[mighty flare]

it was made for gyre prime anyway

also vastilok is good gunblade for gyre

[old marsh]

For general content, it’s fine. For SP/Endurance u May wanna use blessing and focus more on range

[near vortex]

SP it did perfectly fine and I'm not taking Nidus to level cap with health tanking

[blissful knoll]

I've been having a thought, why aren't people using universal fallout + manifold bond with radiation for frames that need sheer orb generation?

[near vortex]

Does that work? I think it has to be applied via Warframe ability

[blissful knoll]

It does

[near vortex]

hmmm
Probably not that good ig

Very slow application to 10 rad procs

[blissful knoll]

Do you really care? 1 stack is gucci no? That + synth decontruct

Like sure 6% is low but you should be killing a lot

[velvet pulsar]

I am

[near vortex]

One stack is a 6% chance

thats 6 orbs per 100 enemies

[velvet pulsar]

And hound applies it very quickly

[near vortex]

vs 25 orbs from 100 enemies with synth and equilibrium

[velvet pulsar]

But people probably use diriga more which has lower range

[blissful knoll]

And that's 105 energy per orb drop, so 630 energy per minute

• whatever synth decontruct gives you

[mighty flare]

which frames

[near vortex]

and its also a warframe arcane slot
Where Energize exists and doesn't require a companion

Energize also being more obtainable then Fallout

[velvet pulsar]

1 universal fallout orb gives 50 energy

Synth Deconstruct orb is regular health orb which gives 55 with equilibrium

U can ditch equilibrium with fallout

[blissful knoll]

Ah true if you don't need excessive spamming, you probably can drop equilibrium

[plucky cipher]

does Vadarya still have funny synergies? or all of them got fixed?

[velvet pulsar]

Energize has 15s cooldown
We can assume 175 energy per proc in every 15s

Meanwhile universal fallout is 150 for 3 orbs or 200 for 4 orbs if gathered under 15s

A hound or diriga with manifold bond can easily do max stacks

Even if radiation expired from enemy, the effect lasts permanently

And u can proc both Energy Conversion and Health Conversion from universal fallout

So universal fallout peak performs with a hound or diriga (better hound)

Synth Deconstruct spreads via hound the most as well, however u get the advantage of freeing up equilibrium mod slot

(u also can get the advantage of freeing up synth deconstruct mod slot with any other mod)

[blissful knoll]

Also realistically how often are you gonna be able to immediately proc energize on coodlown?

[velvet pulsar]

Energize has 60% proc chance

Which is same as a max stacked universal fallout

[blissful knoll]

How many rad procs are stacked on arc coil?

[velvet pulsar]

Both Synergized Prospectus & Arc Coil can quickly max stack radiation in mere moments

[blissful knoll]

So yea even assuming just 1 stack of rad, you should be getting 6 orbs per minute

And the rate jumps up with every extra rad proc you can get

[velvet pulsar]

That's worst case scenario

[blissful knoll]

Oh that's funny

You can proc it with regulators too

So mesa can self generate orbs

[velvet pulsar]

I don't like to move to orbs so I'll still likely use Sahasa+ energize on mesa

[mighty flare]

there are a lot of assumptions going on here to make fallout sound better

[old marsh]

Nidus performs better and better in endurance. try him out

[velvet pulsar]

Assuming Energize to proc exactly in 15s is definitely making it sound better

And I was the one who assumed that

[mighty flare]

i did not mention energize

[old marsh]

try Bright Bonnet if not already

[velvet pulsar]

I like the unconventional survivability it gives to mesa by bouncing, so it's nice

[mighty flare]

im talking about equilibrium v fallout, energize has long since fell out of favor for energy

[blissful knoll]

So with 100 kpm, assuming worst case scenario of only 1 rad proc it's 300 energy per minute, kinda bad. But if you consistently land 10 rad, it jumps to 3000 energy per minute.

[velvet pulsar]

Equilibrium goes hand-in-hand with synth deconstruct and yes it's very powerful synergy and more companions can proc it

[blissful knoll]

If we take the middle to account for inconsistencies in gameplay, it's 1500 energy per minute

And equilibrium doubles that energy gain

Cos universal orb also procs equilibrium

[velvet pulsar]

But I made it clear, universal fallout shines with hound or diriga

Never said which one among equilibrium or fallout is performing better
I said u save equilibrium slot

[blissful knoll]

Or you use both on very spammy frames

Where you just brute spam abilities at 45% eff

[velvet pulsar]

Also eximus drops more health orbs than energy orbs so equilibrium WITHOUT synth deconstruct shines in high eximus spawn rates

[velvet pulsar]

Might be overkill

But that's coming from me who uses energize+ Equilibrium on gara

[mighty flare]

the frames using equilibrium will not need fallout if they're already using synth deconstruct, theres no point in using both
i ask what frames even fall under this category

[blissful knoll]

Rn? Probably just oberon cos you'll probably spend like 300 energy every 5-10 seconds

[velvet pulsar]

So u want cases when universal fallout is picked over equilibrium?

[blissful knoll]

Like i get there aren't many frames that need the amount of energy that universal fallout can generate, but rn oberon is already in that territory

And who's to say there won't be more

[mighty flare]

Even Oberon is fine on either/or, you're only really forced into that position on sparce tile sets

[subtle fulcrum]

Heat has no cap and each new application refreshes the duration of the previous stacks.

Electric has no cap but each elec status effect has its own 6 seconds timer.

[mighty flare]

and the only reason oberon would even be in that position is on a smite nuke setup

[velvet pulsar]

Oberon is a health orb spawner though

[blissful knoll]

Still not enough energy to support 45 eff smite spam yea

[subtle fulcrum]

The game has a damage cap, not some type of dmg specifically.

Please restrain yourself from spreading misinformation

[blissful knoll]

That build has messed up energy requirements

[velvet pulsar]

Anyway if you're talking about either equilibrium or universal fallout, in both cases atleast its good for Oberon to not rely on companion at all

[subtle fulcrum]

You can stack as many elec stacks as you want

[near vortex]

I've played a good amount of Nidus

amd i'll tell you right now

you don't need to play Endurance for him to feel good

[chrome badge]

nidus is uhhhhhhh questionable

[mighty flare]

?

[blissful knoll]

You don't, you just need enough enemy density

[velvet pulsar]

That's a side note

[old marsh]

never said good. i said better. there is a difference. he is good in general. but he gets better and better with endurance.

[mighty flare]

oberon has to spend energy for fallout/equilibrium, you're running risk of just crumbling over without a companions generating orbs for free

[subtle fulcrum]

@icy light the game comes along with a well detailed wiki, you should check it out
https://wiki.warframe.com/

[mighty flare]

its why its so common to see both equilibrium & fallout on oberon

esp when using blind rage to reach his breakpoints

[near vortex]

getting max stacks takes seconds

[blissful knoll]

I'm pretty sure you kinda just have to use blind rage to reach his breakpoints even with 4 topaz

[shut bane]

When enemies arent being deleted on sight by your team yes

[velvet pulsar]

Same goes for when a companion like diriga dies

[blissful knoll]

197 str with 4 topaz basically requires blind rage regardless no?

[velvet pulsar]

U r on a cooldown when u can't rely on companion

[shut bane]

Nidus does shine in a specially made team though. Pair him with oberon and valkyr? Unstoppable.

[velvet pulsar]

That doesn't mean u r completely gonna ditch ur companion

[near vortex]

I'm really liking triple augment nidus

[mighty flare]

still need viral + reckoning strip, also would need molt augmented if ur using overextended

[near vortex]

something like Wisp or Jade are great too

Mesa players love me

[blissful knoll]

Yea so either way most real oberon builds would be running 45 eff

[velvet pulsar]

Does Jade's shield recharge delay now stack additively with mods?

[blissful knoll]

Atleast if trying to do smite roar

[mighty flare]

companions have oberon passive + several recovery mods

[shut bane]

I’m a protea player (a bunker style frame like nidus) they synergise SO WELL

[near vortex]

Nidus can let Jade snapshot big 2 casts overall

[velvet pulsar]

Nice

[near vortex]

bigger Deathbringer or Strength boosts

[blissful knoll]

Btw can we talk about that oberon passive? It's so good

[velvet pulsar]

Passive and Smite were my main focus

[near vortex]

also holy crap this mans fashion changes so much with stacks

[shut bane]

I know that this is an unpopular opinion, but having team synergies in warframe isnt a bad thing

[near vortex]

I believe the same
Team synergies are really funny

[velvet pulsar]

FYI: Nova can teleport mirage's 4

[blissful knoll]

It's not, but it's also not something that's gonna be discussed outside of specific scenarios cos you're not normally gonna build to be supported by teammates outside of specific things

[near vortex]

I used to play with a Wisp friend and I'd tether to her for massive motes

[near vortex]

Nova can teleport a lot of things

[shut bane]

My god. Protea, hildryn and jade on 1 team? GGs

[velvet pulsar]

Mesa can proc Energizing Shot via regulators kills if there's a nova in squad spamming her 4

[near vortex]

Limbo plus Exalted frames is insane as well

[velvet pulsar]

*smart exalted players

[shut bane]

I know. But i do find it odd that everyone wants to be soloing everything in public lobbies.

[velvet pulsar]

Not the racist ones

[near vortex]

There's racist exalted frame users?

[velvet pulsar]

I've met a Mesa in Archon hunt defense typing "limbo no 4"

[shut bane]

The joys

I love limbo players

[velvet pulsar]

That was the most mind blowing racism I've seen in warframe

[shut bane]

As a protea main the rift doesnt affect me whatsoever

[subtle fulcrum]

@topaz idol @chrome badge
I'm pinging you so you don't get misinformed by this guy, I've posted a few answers bellow too

[shut bane]

My turrets will incinerate everything regardless

[near vortex]

yeah funnily enough Limbo is just broken with anything capable of killing cross rift
Which is most frames in the game

[blissful knoll]

Why worry about anything when you can just play xaku and press 2

[velvet pulsar]

then there's melee influence smite limbo

[chrome badge]

I been known about elec and heat bruvchacho

[shut bane]

melee influence players are not people

[near vortex]

Smite is unneeded imo

[chrome badge]

goblins and i agree

[near vortex]

waste of a subsume when Fortifier does the same thing

[velvet pulsar]

Smite is cross rift though

[near vortex]

You want them in the rift anyway for Rift Torrent

[chrome badge]

people still talk about limbo?

[mighty flare]

cuz xaku 2 is slow for most of gameplay

[blissful knoll]

So are the brains of 99% of us (including mine)

[velvet pulsar]

Like I can press shift, forever stay in rift, not disturb my racist squadmates via my 1 or 4 and just kill the outsiders using smite

[blissful knoll]

Atleast it's foolproof

[near vortex]

racist teamates wouldn't be a problem if DE would fix Limbo's VFX issues

[velvet pulsar]

BTW xaku's new augment reduces the spam requirement for 4 on non-cratebreaker setup

[subtle fulcrum]

Good

[shut bane]

Caster frames bypass the rift altogether

[mighty flare]

new augment sucks

[velvet pulsar]

It's an environmental debuff applier

[mighty flare]

jankiest formula ever too

[velvet pulsar]

Any new enemy walking into it is also available to be debuffed

[near vortex]

Caster frames
Exalted frames
Influence
Certain weapons

Cyte players eating good when they hear Acid Shells goes cross rift

[blissful knoll]

I think the new augment is fine but xaku doesn't have the mod slot for it

[velvet pulsar]

I have an entire config for self sustaining okina setup

[blissful knoll]

Pillage builds don't have the slot, quiver builds subsume over 1 so priming it requires some hassle

[chrome badge]

lemme guess with influence?

[velvet pulsar]

BTW sampotes waves behave very weirdly

[velvet pulsar]

Influence kills doesn't build daggers again

[near vortex]

limbo has to be outside rift so its kinda mid

[velvet pulsar]

U have u rely on DoTs, moreover, AoE DoTs

[near vortex]

you want to be in the rift for Rift torrent

[chrome badge]

really? could've sworn it did according to ninja

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah sampotes shockwaves can cross rift but only by one direction

[chrome badge]

i must be imagining things as per usual

[mighty flare]

if augment was good you could justify the slot
its not

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-simple-its-shrimple-gif-25735431

[velvet pulsar]

There was a youtuber who thought DE stealth nerfed gas procs generated by okina to prevent self sustaining

Little did he know gas itself has been nerfed since release

[blissful knoll]

The problem is pillage builds require too much str and quiver builds subsume over 1 and can't prime it without astral bond which is annoying to use

So the ideal user is helminthless xaku

[velvet pulsar]

Quiver builds?!
On xaku?!

[near vortex]

yeah you subsume it over 1 and afk at level cap

lazy survival

[velvet pulsar]

Why

We have huras and shade

[blissful knoll]

Octavia 2 electric bogaloo

[velvet pulsar]

And even if considering weapon platform
There's evade xaku with zymos + gaze strat to lazy nuke

[chrome badge]

oh yeah speaking of xaku i use xaku with a kogris with napalm

[blissful knoll]

That stops you from priming the augment yourself no?

[mighty flare]

stop str maxing on xaku and just press pillage twice

[velvet pulsar]

I use Astral Bond

[blissful knoll]

Astral bond is annoying to use ugh

[velvet pulsar]

Yes it

[blissful knoll]

10s duration

[mighty flare]

str maxxing for pillage has always been a trap even on hildryn

[mighty flare]

you have to cope with operator + astral bond
dont do that

its not worth

[serene ivy]

Looking for feedback. I prefer auto rifles. So I’m looking to see what’s best in everyone’s opinion.

A) Braton Prime Incarnon
B) Telos Boltor Incarnon
C) Acceltra Prime

Any and all input welcome.

[blissful knoll]

If astral bond has atleast 20s duration i can understand using it

[velvet pulsar]

There's also phahd Scaffold but that doesn't improve it to bearable

[blissful knoll]

But 10s is not ok

[mighty flare]

anyone telling you to use astral bond is not to be trusted

[velvet pulsar]

Telos Boltor

[velvet pulsar]

Yes yes 😏

[blissful knoll]

Yea astral bond is not it for sure

[velvet pulsar]

Good thing I did not tell anyone else to use astral bond

😏

[mighty flare]

im not sure how so many people got psychosis from new xaku augment and forgot that astral bond is a terrible mod

[icy hollow]

Burston prime incarnon

[blissful knoll]

Astral bond needs its duration majorly buffed for sure

Any buff that lasts less than 20s is just too much hassle to use

[velvet pulsar]

Xaku got augment for 2, 3, & 4 right?

[velvet pulsar]

Or just 3 & 4?

[mighty flare]

yes and all are bad

[velvet pulsar]

Xata's Whisper remains the only forbidden mutually exclusive damage subsume to not have an augment

[blissful knoll]

Honestly with helminthless xaku the new 4 aug is a noticeable damage boost

And it's not annoying to use

[mighty flare]

it just needs to let pets restart buff duration

[velvet pulsar]

I've seen people use Epitaph to proc void bubbles

[blissful knoll]

Literally what I'm doing

On helminthless

You just pop xatas on any primer

[mighty flare]

thats the only reasonable method for new augment

just some aoe weapon + xata

[velvet pulsar]

Void Bubble priming does grief other players to a small extent

Coz it disables punch through

[blissful knoll]

Although i will argue epitaph might not be the best primer for xaku specifically

Since you'll usually have cunning drift locked on exilus

[velvet pulsar]

Which is why Xata's Whisper fixes the one weird problem Grattler has

[blissful knoll]

And you'll self stagger yourself a lot

[mighty flare]

cunning drift is bait use a real exilus mod

problem solved

[velvet pulsar]

u ain't gonna stop me from building max range!

[blissful knoll]

Ugh dropping to 14 guns is painge but i guess it's worth the tradeoff

[velvet pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-running-away-escape-nope-hell-no-gif-11230077378159241796

[blissful knoll]

Lately i just use chain beams to prime for xaku

[near vortex]

"Nidus excels in long missions"
Also Nidus:

[velvet pulsar]

Lately I remembered that Basmu is also a chain beam

[blissful knoll]

Oh i should try the new basmu augment

I heard it's not amazing but it's good enough

[velvet pulsar]

Because it's additive to mods

Neither flat nor multiplicative

[quiet laurel]

obviously not via ability dps

[blissful knoll]

20% damage and status per stack yea?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[near vortex]

mfw Zymos bee spam or the 300% crit chance from Teeming Virulence:

Panzer priming and armor strip also can let Virulence do respectable damage

I just took off Panzer to show nidus at max stacks in the span of like 15 seconds

[velvet pulsar]

Best ragdoll grouping source?

[blissful knoll]

Vazarin

[velvet pulsar]

I wanna make an unconventional nuke build minmaxing crescent vulpaphyla one-shots

[blissful knoll]

I tried building venari nuke and it's annoying to play

[near vortex]

Larva, probably

[velvet pulsar]

Once gas status gets fixed it will be more convenient

[blissful knoll]

Somehow the venari nuke build requires you to spam 1 more than the normal build

Cos you need to keep the cat alive

[quiet laurel]

can we make summoner builds bannable

[velvet pulsar]

I thought u did that to proc hunter command

[blissful knoll]

Hunter command sucks

[near vortex]

I'm going to take Evil Volt into a mission with you just for saying that

[blissful knoll]

It screws with the targeting of protector stance

[velvet pulsar]

Does it also work on duplex bond clones?

Wait does hunter command go on companion or claw?

[blissful knoll]

Idts

Command goes on companion

[velvet pulsar]

Well then the answer is no

[blissful knoll]

Either way venari tends to just get itself killled if you don't spam 1 for pack leader

And if you spam 1 you can't huras to keep yourself hidden

And unlike normal khora you can't just delete the entire map to stop them from shooting you

So it ends up being more spammy

[velvet pulsar]

Okina daggers don't break huras invis right?

[blissful knoll]

Oh I haven't tried that

[velvet pulsar]

There's also vulcan blitz but I don't think u can sustain it currently, unlike any other frame using Cyte-09 specter to get resupply

[blissful knoll]

Ok i haven't heard of this, explain

What's this about Vulcan blitz + resupply

[velvet pulsar]

Nothing about that
I meant unlike acid shells and Thermagnetic Shells, resupply won't affect vulcan blitz

[blissful knoll]

Oh

[velvet pulsar]

Otherwise one could deploy Cyte-09 specter to buff it

[blissful knoll]

Actually speaking of cyte, i wonder if okina + scourge consistently hits headshots to extend invis

[velvet pulsar]

Melee evade build

[blissful knoll]

Yes

Exactly what I'm thinking

[velvet pulsar]

That'd likely use gas status

Or electric but without influence

[blissful knoll]

And that'll keep the cat alive with pack leader

While still being safe yourself

[velvet pulsar]

I must be forgetting some other projectile melee for headshot...

Oh BTW
U using summoner's wrath
Or if u don't then there's also Worthy Comradery

[blissful knoll]

Summoner wrath yea

[velvet pulsar]

Coz it affects melee headshots too

[blissful knoll]

Cos its works as faction mod

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah hopefully ur venari is doing lots of DoTs

[queen parcel]

how should i mod my paracesis?

[blissful knoll]

It is

[velvet pulsar]

With utmost care!

[blissful knoll]

The damage from venari is never the problem

[velvet pulsar]

...and light attack spam

[blissful knoll]

It's keeping it and khora alive

[velvet pulsar]

There's reinforced bond shenanigans

[blissful knoll]

I wish i could show the claw stats rn but the mobile app can't load claw stats

[velvet pulsar]

Combined with synth deconstruct

That'd spam shield for venari

[blissful knoll]

Oh that's true

Although it'll be really annoying to shoot F F shoot F F nonstop

[velvet pulsar]

Does casting whipclaw trigger holster effects?

[blissful knoll]

I'm not sure

I'll have to test that

Also gas ash is so fun but too active for my liking

Wrathful and smoke bomb are already not long duration abilities

Adding proton snap to it makes it too active

[severe bough]

Standard weapon plat build with all 3 augments mostly focused on str bit duration bit range i can send u the build when in onlinen again but like i said on some frames i got no space to fit equi in, on sayrn the only option i could think of would be rolling guard for example

[severe bough]

I mean depend on frame caster buffer plat all that i can probably either choose to use the mod or just use shards ig even tho rolling guard its probably the only flex Option on some builds wouldnt hurt the build as much as having no energy

[grave cloak]

you don't need equilibrium on most builds tbf

at the very most you can just offload it to one or two purple equilibrium shards

[severe bough]

Thats true there frames like garuda voruna citrine that dont really have energy problems can easily due to either abilitys that instandly give energy in return of smth else or abilitys that make drops more often in this case Convertion in a lower way isnt a Problem

[grave cloak]

also there's always the issue of health orb drops not being a reliable source at all.

I guess you could use synth deconstruct on your companion but you're sacrificing a bond mod slot just for that as well so... 🤷‍♀️

[severe bough]

Always use snyth decon

[severe bough]

90% of my companions but I just look through which frames might require equilibrium and on which if i really find no space i just put 2 tau purprls on ig

[grave cloak]

meh I just find the trade off of sacrificing a bond mod too much but just imo ig

[crisp pine]

Okay I need a little help to squeeze a little more survivability out of my valkyr build but I am not sure. I have passive shield gating with cat shield and recharge combo with omamori. Problem is that she can potentially die a massive hit in level cap although the passive will kick in there. I just want layer before that.

[grave cloak]

valkyr with omamori oh my

I guess you could use vazarin if you really want to in level cap

[severe bough]

[severe bough]

I mean isnt there no cooldown between your passiv if u die? If u keep that up your not gonna die anyways

[grave cloak]

either you're not killing enemies fast enough or enemy density is too low for the passive to matter

cat shields with shield recharge mods and omamori is overkill on valkyr

[crisp pine]

true, maybe I just over cautious with it. I have not test it in level cap mostly (a bit of long wait to get to). likely it proc and then i would kill fast to get it back and by that point my shield would recharged

[grave cloak]

yeah as long as you're just killing stuff you'll be fine, you have status immunity anyway during your 4 so just keep hitting stuff to recharge your meter

[subtle fulcrum]

3 augments ? There is your issue

[queen token]

so if i want to fast clear profit taker to farm creds wat sort of build should i have

to make it as fast as possible

[charred gale]

u can probably find a guide on the profit taker discord

theres simpler credit farms with less investment now so u could also invest into those

much cheaper and simpler to do

[queen token]

currently i do the chroma method

and for endo its arb

[charred gale]

chroma lecta?

[queen token]

no the hex bounties

[charred gale]

i think u still use chroma for pt

[queen token]

the techrot cache

[charred gale]

that one should be around the same amount of credits

dont believe profit taker gives more and even if it does it wouldnt be that much

[queen token]

yea i got time so wanted to build for pt as well

[charred gale]

fair enough ig

[trim wigeon]

is duration or efficiency better for a farm khora

[charred gale]

u only rly need continuity

[livid vortex]

This any good?

[midnight horizon]

I was so worried my Sybaris Incarnon would stink, and I just saw 8.5 million fly and I went "ok."

[mighty flare]

neutron star is one of worst heat subsumes for nezha nuking
its either thermal sunder, pyrotechnics, or use a weapon with pillage

[grave cloak]

None of the incarnons I've tried are "terrible" ime, even the "worst" incarnons like gammacor still eat better than most of the adversary weapons

Granted the only incarnon I don't actually own yet is bo incarnon so I could be surprised

[livid vortex]

What about dark verse?

[mighty flare]

bad

[livid vortex]

I was looking for some extra dr to free up a mod lot

If I use sunder or pyro what should I rely on for shield strip

[grave cloak]

You can use corrosive projection aura

[livid vortex]

Yeah but that’s lame

[grave cloak]

Subjective tbh

[livid vortex]

It’s just objectively the best option no comp

[grave cloak]

No?

[livid vortex]

Was the first thing you said tho

[grave cloak]

For armor reduction specifically? Yes

Against corpus you can use EMP aura

Or shield disruption

[livid vortex]

What if I use smite

[grave cloak]

you can but then what's the point of your build as nezha

[livid vortex]

Kill shit slide far

[grave cloak]

and you're not gonna do that with smite subsume for definite

[livid vortex]

What’s better then pyro or sunder

Prolly pyro because the ragdoll is bugged right

[grave cloak]

you can use fire blast if you're really that down bad

[livid vortex]

That’s what I’ve been using lol

Man you’ve got attitude cheer up 😭

Called “build discussion” for a reason

[grave cloak]

I mean I've said worse things so

[livid vortex]

Valid

Still gonna call you out qt :3

All fun tho

Gonna try and get temple then

[pallid plaza]

At this point I think stack -friction mods and slide like the wind bullets cant hit u when you that slippery

[livid vortex]

I feel like every enemy bullet in this game is hitscan

Maybe it’s because 60fps idk I’m not an intellectual 🤷🏻

As you can probably tell

So is slash not good like that anymore

Not not worth specking over other stuff

[mighty flare]

side grades to each other

[pallid plaza]

I would just say is less "good" now. You can still hit a chunky slash proc and kill things. Before it was just the best way against armor mobs

[livid vortex]

Interesting

Thx for the info

[pallid plaza]

I think if you are mid game ish its better to match dmg weakness if you are struggling. The built in dmg mult can help out. But there is a tipping point where your damge will be so high at end game that you look at something and it dies

[livid vortex]

Makes sense

Is there a hierarchy for the different types of damage in end game, or does it not matter, or are they all useful in different ways?

Sounds like you’re saying it don’t matter

[jovial gull]

@latent adder what tf is that caster wisp build, i just hit like 449M with a spark

[grave cloak]

viral is universally useful as every enemy has hp, and viral amplifies damage dealt to hp. 99% of builds you see will have a viral source

magnetic has a more niche use against overguard

radiation is yeah

gas/blast can see use, more so in gas/electric builds for banshee (I think?)

[latent adder]

Yeah breach surge does alot of work

But wisp 4 can stack pretty huge heat procs to power surge

[coral crest]

another reason pyro is so strong is because its coded as a weapon

so its affected by buffs that are applied to weapons universally

like arcane arachne or vigorous swap

it wouldve been completely broken with hot shot so its coded to be unable to crit, though

but a wall latch every 30sec for 150% multiplicative dmg

is quite something

also yeah ragdolls are bugged

youll hit more pillars with pyro

[jovial gull]

I do orange crits sometimes tho, any idea why?

As far as i know, breach surge has a 100% crit chance not more

[coral crest]

its affected by universal weapon bonuses

do you have something like arcane avenger

or hot shot

[floral tulip]

can anyone give me good amp codes for:

granmu prism
klamora prism
lega prism
mote prism
rahn prism
shwaak prism

[coral crest]

x47

[floral tulip]

🙏

[coral crest]

xx7 is pretty much best in slot due to it being crit dmg

and void status from an amp not being too useful

[floral tulip]

Whats the x4x for?

[coral crest]

you know cedo?

[floral tulip]

The weapon? ya

[coral crest]

its like cedo glaive toss but does good dmg and void status

[floral tulip]

Do you use altfire for that too?

[coral crest]

xXx is more of a preference tbh

yea, all xXx are just alt fires of your choice

feel free to use anything but Klebrik scaffold, it was nerfed into the ground into being geniuenly on the level of mote amp

[floral tulip]

Oh, gotcha I just want to farm all of that for the mastery but wanted to make sure I'd build them all good just in case

[astral tinsel]

but it just so happens that most people's preference is Phahd (x4x) because it's the best one for panic-reviving with Last Gasp

[midnight horizon]

I will probably keep rolling this, especially if I can land +Crit Dmg, +Heat and +Dmg on this.

As it stands, good enough for me.

[quiet laurel]

5xx is best single target dps and x4x is the best AoE dmg when you have groups of enemies
There is a reason why its the best amp

[coral crest]

Lavos stole the best amp alt fire for his shotgun

Smart guy

[jovial gull]

No, not really

[coral crest]

Can you show your build?

[astral tinsel]

puncture stacks maybe?

[latent adder]

Worthy comradery

If youre using my build

On headshots itll be 175% cc

[jovial gull]

@coral crest here

[latent adder]

Then uhh i got no idea lol

Some enemies do get boosted cc too idk

Afaik puncture and avenger dont work on breach surge

[jovial gull]

Does it use weapon buffs as well?

[latent adder]

Only specific ones

Nourish, arachne

Roar etc

[jovial gull]

May Gal. Scope otherwise i have no clue what could be boosting crit lmao

Or maybe incarnon evolutions?

Other question, would hotshot be good on wisp? I got that at r2 but idk if its better than fallout

[latent adder]

hotshot doesnt affect surge or 4

so only if you're also planning on shooting weapons or melee

[jovial gull]

I thought abt doing a seperate gunrunner build

So maybe there?

[latent adder]

usually gun builds just sub off 4

cuz you kinda waste time casting when u could be shooting

[severe bough]

On ember i dont have slot issues i can easily replace umbral int or exothermic with equilibrium

[alpine haven]

is my Nataruk ok?

[midnight horizon]

-# idk, have you asked him yourself?

Jokin aside it looks good

[haughty pagoda]

Swap out the viral for aptitude and fire rate, multiplicative gunco on perfect/full charge shots, hunter could be swapped for heat as it has a higher DoT

[alpine haven]

He doesn't really like to open up
Scared of the Viral effects of social media

[alpine haven]

I need to farm for a bit more for Aptitude

like vitus essense

[haughty pagoda]

Once you get the arcane slot open, use longbow sharpshot, another multiplicative bonus that is stronger than the regular primary arcanes

[alpine haven]

woah
where do i get those?

[midnight horizon]

Longbow is from uuh dubiri im pt sure

[haughty pagoda]

Duviri for the arcane longbow, and the slot opener is from teshin steel path shop

[alpine haven]

wait how about this for now?

[haughty pagoda]

We use galv aptitude for the secondary effect over the primary effect, bane/elementalist for now

[alpine haven]

I'll try to get it as soon as possible then

[wanton widget]

Why can’t I get the mecha set to fire off? I look for the guy with the kubrow symbol but he never gets marked. Am I killing them too fast?

[midnight horizon]

Yknow i'd build this thing as
Galv chamber
Galv apt
Crit delay
Vital sense
Elementalist mod
Heat mod
Primed shred
Serration
Longbow sharpshot