builds-discussion

[mighty flare]

Mhm

[velvet pulsar]

I wouldn't be surprised if that's a copied code from either wisp or if that deals some miscellaneous dmg

[mighty flare]

I’ve been trying Necramech Setups in Orphix, and I’m not sure if it’s because the mod kinda sucks or that it’s bugged cuz I don’t see any electric procs on enemies during my runs 😭

[velvet pulsar]

Host client differences?

Have u experienced both?

Also I had a weird condition of perma shield break in ETA

[mighty flare]

No luck with getting ppl to join Orphix runs

[velvet pulsar]

I had deployed a shield osprey specter, and there were vampiric liminus, and it was Flare defense mission.

One of the liminus stood under me and I didn't take any health dmg even though my shields were permanently 0 as long as under the range of shield drone

(necramech)

[mighty flare]

What does vampiric linings do

[velvet pulsar]

Those guys insta kill u when crossing them with ur unsuspecting atomicycle, they drain HP directly bypassing shields, and drain energy too

Assimilate can allow u to stand over them but still drain high energy.

They can be Enthralled for a short duration, but apparently grendel cannot consume them.

[mighty flare]

Oh the shadowy things with red auras

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

I'd be so much fun if grendel was able to consume them though

Or probably their aura would bypass his stomach and kill him

[mighty flare]

Grendel gets acid reflex

[potent bramble]

gimme battacor build!!!

[fresh pumice]

Hello, is the dark sword still crazy strong for heavy slam attacks or did it get patched already?

[quiet laurel]

its still "strong"

its just very high damage but low range

smth like that doesnt get patched

[fresh pumice]

I see. Was asking because I used to kill the acolytes with two slams but now it just doesn't work anymore.

[deep grotto]

I’d join but i don’t have any necramech mods :(

[deep grotto]

That’s because Damage Attenuation was reworked when Undermind released

[fresh pumice]

Huh I see. I assume we aren't able to do that to the effervon tank anymore lol XD

[nocturne isle]

what do u guys think of my silence ash build?

[fresh pumice]

I thought it was to blame but considering I still kill him pretty fast through other methods wasn't sure if damage attenuation was to blame 100%

[novel bear]

Should I go full ability damage for a wisp caster build or put some cast speed shards on?

[hollow hare]

what should i improve

[novel bear]

Are you trying to oneshot with his 1 and 2?

Because you need a lot more strength for that

[snow ice]

What's catalyzing shield?

[novel bear]

Shield gate mod

Locks shield gate to a certain amount of time, but lowers max shield

[snow ice]

Ah

[coral crest]

It's supposed to only give that locked time on full charge

But they implemented it to give that amount on any charge level

[snow ice]

Interesting

[rugged loom]

what can i do to improve this? ivara has such a low amount of energy, but her abilities require so much! and i feel like im not doing enought damage without being invisible

[hollow hare]

with the 1

how much more strength

im at 151

im thinking about replacing catalazying shield with rolling guard

[fresh surge]

ivara doesn't need defensive mods like the hp or armor one it's easier to keep up being invisible with more duration

[rugged loom]

oh ok

[hollow hare]

im so lost with this build

[fresh surge]

but unfortunately you mostly lack some more powerful mods that can help with that since you are still in the early game

[rugged loom]

if youre talking about me, if you tell me what mods im down to buy them on warframe market tmr

[fresh surge]

i belive it would be better to wait for the time you can farm them yourself it's not that hard it mostly requires a clan and acces to deimos planet

[rugged loom]

oh i can do that now, i have full star chart unlocked now

[fresh surge]

especially considering some of them require quite a bit of endo and credits to upgrade

[fresh surge]

are you in a clan?

[rugged loom]

yep!

[fresh surge]

well they way you farm them is you just need to find a big door that require one of these 4 keys to open

it can be done solo but it's much easier and faster to do it in a squad

[rugged loom]

o okie

[fresh surge]

blueprint for these keys are in the orkin lab

[rugged loom]

where do i find the big doors? and how to i get dragon keys

ok

[fresh surge]

the doors spawn in a random place in any deimos mission

[near vortex]

dragon keys you get from the Orokin Lab in your dojo
The doors you go to any Deimos mission (probably capture) and just look for it

[rugged loom]

ok

[fresh surge]

yes capture is the best for it bc it's the fastest mission type

[rugged loom]

oo ok ok

[novel bear]

With roar, you need 255 strength to oneshot
Without roar, 600

[hollow hare]

oke

[hollow hare]

who told u this ?

nvm

[kind inlet]

I am building my gyre with aqua blades subsumed so she just has an aoe damage ring around her but am finding it hard to survive. How can I increase my survivability without just shade invis

[severe bough]

Subsume pillage instead

[kind inlet]

I have a pillage build im looking for alternative survivability with the aquablades subsumed

[severe bough]

Standard brespite/augur + cata
Or lazy gating fast deflection + vigilante vigor + cata ( aegis for more Qol )

I would rather go with the First one but that depends on and what u already have on the build

[kind inlet]

yeah I guess cata is my best bet fitting the right mods is hard on this since im tryna max range but I can definately get somethin goin

[high elbow]

Does anyone have a good build for the kuva zarr?
Im on the right track, I just need to figure out some of the details

Rifle mutation and semi rifle cannonade are essential

Im new to the weapon, so i figured someone might know how to get the damage up there better than I do

Its good, but i feel like im not doing enough damage sometimes
I wonder if I should just use it at close range so I can get the priming from my diriga

[kind inlet]

definately prime with something

[high elbow]

????

[coral crest]

Can also use omamori to make it even lazier

Oops, didn't mean to ping

[abstract girder]

is this an improvement? i was told multishot is king, but its only 40%

[coral crest]

That's more of a disposition issue

[abstract girder]

I mean sure but...you know, I asked if its an improvement.

[fathom sky]

It is but I still wouldn't use it

[real aurora]

yo are these Dante's Noctua stats good in it alt fire?

[granite ginkgo]

as long ur wordwarden is usefull, then yes

[severe bough]

Anybody knows where to get mecha aura again?

[severe bough]

Wasnt it fortuna bountys?

[random coral]

Chat what’s better

I’m just getting into Riven stuff 🙁

[storm fog]

what's the new toughest or best enemies to test builds on in the simulcrum?

[trim wigeon]

i recently got an akarius riven, I've heard it's a good weapon and i wanna know if it's worth investing into (getting a good riven roll, getting the weapon itself, modding it, etc) and if so, what stats should i want in a riven?

[granite ginkgo]

eximus, cuz their got OG

and u can increase til lvl 250 now

[quiet laurel]

still waiting for DE to actually give us lvl cap spawn option

[granite ginkgo]

we can indirectly do that, w glitch but yea copium QoL from DE

[mighty flare]

toughest ones off the top of my head are the Manic Bombard Eximus or Scaldra Dedicant Eximus

[scarlet bramble]

Good morning guys! Is there a way to build limbo for EDA and ETA?

[acoustic kraken]

Could this be good for anything?

[carmine dew]

good roll though the gun is pretty mid

[river spruce]

does contagious bond decrease your heat dmg if you use a heat proc weapon?

[drifting hare]

Hey guys what incarnon upgrades should I choose for this build?

[thin eagle]

i need an answer, paris incarnon or dread incarnon? what's the difference if their similar stats and incarnons are practically the same? i have both but since they're so similar i dont want to waste resources on the other incarnon

[grave cloak]

Paris is used for stat stick shenanigans with kubrow claws
Dread is better for actually killing stuff if you have the unseen dread augment

Though that doesn't mean paris incarnon can't kill stuff, it absolutely can kill

[thin eagle]

is unseen dread augment needed to be better than paris?

[grave cloak]

Imo yes

[thin eagle]

aight

[grave cloak]

Also dread has the cool incarnon bonus if you have despair and hate equipped

Whether you care about that is 🤷‍♀️

[thin eagle]

1k+ hours and tried to farm hate before buying stalker beacons and such

never got it

[grave cloak]

Unfort

[thin eagle]

also is dread big damage or big status weapon

maybe hybrid?

[grave cloak]

Nah go all in on damage

[thin eagle]

aight

[grave cloak]

Bows have longbow sharpshot arcane which is a final multiplier on your damage numbers

So no qns needed just build for damage

[thin eagle]

aight

[blissful knoll]

Very doable, especially if you got a melee projectile that double dips with his base damage buff like glaives

Even without those, breach surge builds are perfectly serviceable in EDA/ETA

Massive double dipping buffs on breach surge is still significant damage

[blissful knoll]

I mean, you kinda just naturally build it into hybrid by maximising its damage

Cos it has multiplicative galv apt

And then you either slap a heat mod or hunter munitions

[thin eagle]

alright

[blissful knoll]

Yea so like galv apt + serration + galv chamber + crit delay + unseen dread + vile accel/primed shred + bane + heat/hunter munitions with longbow sharpshot arcane

[drifting hare]

Hey what upgrades should I make for my incarnon prisma skana?

[grave cloak]

swap out corrupt charge for galvanized elementalist
swap out drifting contact for reach/primed reach/spring loaded blade
put in a tennokai mod (discipline's merit for consistent damage values, dreamer's wrath for higher theoretical dps)

[drifting hare]

Huh alr Amma do that when I am home but what incarnon upgrades should I choose?

[grave cloak]

right for evo 2
evo 3 is personal preference
right for evo 4

[potent quartz]

Guys could you give an advice for building Gram Prime? I assume that my build is an little bit outdated

[drifting hare]

Thabks

[grave cloak]

well you gotta actually show us your build first

[grave cloak]

take out your element mods that make viral, put shocking touch (idk what is it in your language) and reach/primed reach/spring loaded blade
take out organ shatter for galvanised elementalist
use melee influence for your arcane
put in a tennokai mod for your exilus (discipline's merit for consistent damage values, dreamer's wrath for higher theoretical dps)

[umbral knoll]

OK, great! I use Valkyr, so I prob don't need fury right?

[grave cloak]

probably won't need yeah, then you can use berserker fury as a flex slot

[grave cloak]

take out gladiator might, for now it's set bonus is bugged which means it's a dud mod
take out drifting contact
put in galvanized reflex and galvanized elementalist in their place

[umbral knoll]

but do I need AS (attak speed) mod at all?

[grave cloak]

as valkyr? tbh nah

[umbral knoll]

I think berserker Fury is the best for now

[hard dove]

the set bonus or the mod as a whole

[grave cloak]

all set bonuses actually, should clarify

[umbral knoll]

yeah, that' what i wanted to ask first 😅

[grave cloak]

the only set bonuses that work are ones that you can put on warframes.

[hard dove]

no no i mean is the set bonus what's broken or the primary effect of the mod

[grave cloak]

oh it's the set bonus not the primary effect

[deep grotto]

Recommendations on what to put onto Fang Prime?

[autumn citrus]

Because i hate myself im making some builds for each Archgun (while knowing that some of them are pretty underpowered/useless) with arcanes. this is for the Cyngas. what arcanes would you put on this thing? i was thinking of Primary Crux/Frostbite and/or Secondary Shiver/Enervate

[hushed owl]

Just looking to clarify if Archon Vitality does anything for Ember

[autumn citrus]

doesnt it give you extra heat procs per application?

[hushed owl]

yeah, but i keep seeing conflicting info on whether or not her abilities apply heat a proc

or what abilites do and dont

[proud anchor]

Yea she benefits from archon vitality

The thing is that it doesn't ramp up the damage fast enough without heat inherit priming

[hushed owl]

priming is easy enough

[upper badge]

what are ppl's thouoghts on nyx?

I played her after the rework and see her as completely busted.
her 2 is full strip with 130 str and the augment blinds/ stuns enemies, and her 4 modded with duration and efficiency can get the drain to 1.62 energy/ sec and gives u perma invul.

[green gyro]

her movement restrictions make her very unenjoyable imo

[upper badge]

ok i can see that, for jumps i use operator parkor, but yea spamming dash while jumping is annoying

[distant jackal]

Does influence work on gara currently?

Read a few comments that it doesnt

Cuz enemies die too fast

[fresh surge]

it works but if you one-shot an enemy influenece won't work and that applies to all weapons

[distant jackal]

Oh

Ill do exposure then

[analog stirrup]

That goes for anything that can use it, in gara's case, she does have a lot of damage wich will make influence prety much useless outside of very niche cases like level cap

[severe bough]

It does def work

[distant jackal]

Tyty

[meager edge]

Is there any way to make the Zenistar good and work on its own?

If so, what type of build would work?

[timid ivy]

I was working on a full caster lavos and im not sure if theres anything i should change here, I'm new to buildcrafting so any tips would be appreciated :D (2nd image is if conditional things like my arcanes/mods are procced)

on archon shards I'm running 1 yellow for casting speed, 3 red for duration, and one tau green for corrosive stack increase (not sure if that's necessary to full strip if i have corrosive projection)

[meager edge]

Only use one of the augments, both aren’t needed

Also, with such a high health pool use bellicose for an arcane

[timid ivy]

ouu i did not know that existed

bellicose over impetus yeah?

or guardian

[meager edge]

Also, continuity gives energy on electric status, right?

[timid ivy]

yea

[meager edge]

I would do guardian since he has survivability

[timid ivy]

wait no

archon stretch does

[meager edge]

Ahhh ok

Then most things seem good, just small things that could be changed

[meager edge]

also, lower range a bit and increase strength if possible

You only need like 140 range max

[timid ivy]

swap out exilus then probs

[undone dust]

swap either lingering or swift for valence as that also applies to the DoTs of your abilities, greatly boosting damage

[timid ivy]

REALLY?

[meager edge]

Another thing, armars hatred isn’t needed since he’s a health tank

[meager edge]

I believe it only does stuff for weapons not abilities

[undone dust]

it also applies to his abilities DoTs

[timid ivy]

yeah i thought the 200% bonus was only for the weapon dmg

[undone dust]

only his DoTs though

so gas, heat, elec, tox

[meager edge]

I believe it applies ability dmg based DOT, but not to his own abilities

[undone dust]

also keep impetus over bellicose as impetus is both a higher strength value and it gives efficiency, which helps cut down on cooldowns via trans probe and swift bite

[timid ivy]

wow

[timid ivy]

u are right

nah notes on the wiki says it

[meager edge]

It states weapons

[timid ivy]

does affect his dots

[undone dust]

its one of those things that have more to it than the mod description

[meager edge]

I would trust the mod rather than the wiki

[timid ivy]

??

[meager edge]

It would end at damage rather than weapons

[timid ivy]

warframe is full of hidden interactions i personally would trust the wiki

[undone dust]

that is definitely an ill way of playing, especially when alot of hidden things aren't mentioned through abilities/mods

[meager edge]

I wouldn’t, I’m also a Lavos main who has tested it and hasn’t seen it work like that

So through testing, it doesn’t and through what the game states, it won’t

If it did work like that, he would be much more popular and much stronger

[timid ivy]

not really

people don't like him because of his gameplay and infusion, the cooldown-based gameplay that makes him so different from other frames

[meager edge]

Applying 3 statuses with one ability cast? 4 if you use swift bite and toxin archon mod? Yes much stronger and much more popular

[timid ivy]

not that, its being stated that the augment adds the bonus damage to the DoTs applied by abilities

nobody said it applied additional elements on ability

[meager edge]

Stating that it works on the DOTS implies that it does that to abilities

It does add a bit more dmg to the ability DOT, but not enough to matter because caster build uses the 4 as main source of dmg not DOT

[timid ivy]

the bonus damage and the status applied to your guns are not mutually exclusive

are dot's that weak

also increasing the dmg of the gas dot caused by 4 could serve useful tbf

[meager edge]

At that point, you are better off using strength to increase the dmg of your 4th to do much more dmg

[meager edge]

The 4 is used as a “kill everything” rather than apply statuses

[timid ivy]

kill everything and leave high damage gas clouds afterwards

i usually infuse it with gas when i pop it since the clouds it leaves are pretty strong

[meager edge]

The clouds go away when they die, it does nothing

[undone dust]

if your gas clouds are going away when they die then your duration is insanely low

[meager edge]

145 duration

That’s just how gas works

The cloud is around the enemy it’s proced on, not where it’s proced

So when the enemy loses the proc (dies) it does go away

[timid ivy]

maybe you're referring to the visual artifact

[meager edge]

It doesn’t go away instantly, but it does go away

[timid ivy]

but it doesn't state it's exclusive to the enemy

[undone dust]

they go away when the status duration of the effect ends

[meager edge]

I’m referring to the effect

[undone dust]

so if the enemy dies but the effect still has the duration, the cloud lingers

[meager edge]

It lingers for a few seconds

[timid ivy]

the cloud lingering helps kill anything that wasn't killed which is not something i see to be undesirable

[meager edge]

And most things should die if primed decently so I don’t see why it’s understandable

[undone dust]

it lingers as long as your status duration is

[meager edge]

Even if it does work, normal gas clouds would work because you can have higher strength which gets the enemies lower and increases dmg for everything else you do too

And I believe your statuses have increased dmg scaling with strength, though I may be wrong

[undone dust]

if you're saying the DoTs also scale with strength that is correct

[timid ivy]

ok so i replaced exilus with power drift, and replaced guardian for bellicose

[meager edge]

Then using strength would be better as it increases ability dmg overall instead of just statuses

[timid ivy]

what do i replace one of the augments for? augur secrets? transient fort?

[meager edge]

I would do transient if you would still have minimum 100 duration

[timid ivy]

-55% efficiency from rage sounds like it'd hurt my 3

i have duration on my archon shards

[meager edge]

It won’t be horrible, I run 45 and get my abilities back fast with lingering probe

[timid ivy]

i feel like im using lingering probe wrong

it feels so weak to me

[meager edge]

You set it somewhere they spawn

[timid ivy]

ill need another forma if i run TF

[undone dust]

valence is practically just a +200% strength mod to your DoTs

[timid ivy]

im going full caster so the raw strength would help all of my abilities damage

🤔

and not just the DoT

not sure the calcs on that tho

[meager edge]

Yes, but I’d rather have my abilities do more dmg too

[coral crest]

No

lavos really doenst need high str

[meager edge]

Yes

[coral crest]

use precision intensify and thats it

[meager edge]

Archon intensify, can’t use precision

[coral crest]

i guess if you want it to be inconsistent for less dmg

[meager edge]

And since it’s a full caster not just a 4 build, you need raw strength

[timid ivy]

^

build reference

[coral crest]

you really arent gonna do good damage with lavos outside of 4

[meager edge]

You really are

I most definitely do

[undone dust]

catalyze relies on heavy amounts of status to nuke by itself, boosting your DoTs also just lowers the need for large amounts of status priming

[coral crest]

his abilites are all utility except 4

you will not kill anything with them outside of low level star chart

[meager edge]

Utility doesn’t mean low dmg, build well and everything does dmg

[coral crest]

his damage on other abilities is geniunely awful

[meager edge]

Lvl 250 SP with abilities outside of catalyze

[meager edge]

You are objectively wrong

[coral crest]

hm, i am open to being proven wrong

do give me videos or smth

how your bite, rush or probe kill 250lvl sp enemies

[meager edge]

Also, don’t just jump in and try to change the identity of the build

[coral crest]

identity is one thing, functionality is another

[meager edge]

The build is for all abilities to be used and do dmg

Identity is more important for fun

[coral crest]

you can still keep the identity and be functional

[timid ivy]

i already have a cookie cutter lavos build, im building a full caster to change it

[coral crest]

just show me how these abilities can do it

i geniunely have never seen or been able to do it

and i played lavos for like 1k hours

[meager edge]

Not with what you are suggesting

[timid ivy]

i have the typical precision intensify shenanigans

i just wanna branch out

build variance

[undone dust]

evade lavos is peak variance

[coral crest]

@meager edge again, show me how it works

[novel bear]

Is this including his augment?

[timid ivy]

elaborate

huras kubrow?

[coral crest]

i want to geniunely see how you were able to use his 1, 2 and 3 to kill lvl250 sp enemies

[undone dust]

its more of a weapons platform setup but gas clouds can hit and kill with headshots, helping upkeep evade

[coral crest]

evade cooldown can be reduced with usual lavos tools

[timid ivy]

ohh

[undone dust]

also this

[coral crest]

No, augment is nice

[timid ivy]

subsume cyte and then valence gas?

my 10 plat will be having a word with my arsenal

[undone dust]

and since evade heals you can be silly and run combat disc and avenger for more weapon buffs

[coral crest]

time to wait on Ash

[undone dust]

yes

[coral crest]

and see how they can kill high level sp enemies with vial rush or whatever else

[timid ivy]

i do also want to do the regular ol high str xata/roar over 4 build

i dont know da setup tho

[undone dust]

i can see ophidian killing with roar and gas but thats about it

[meager edge]

The main point is that the build would be changed to fit what you think they should do, not what they want

[coral crest]

we are talking lvl250 sp here

[coral crest]

main point is that you claimed you can kill decently high level sp stuff with 1,2 and 3 without focusing on 4

i gotta see it

geniunely, not criticising you or anything

[undone dust]

i could potentially see that with valence, roar, gas, viral priming but i would just have to run and check that myself

it would be more of gas doing the work though

[coral crest]

that would take so much setup

[meager edge]

That’s your main point, the main point is that it’s insensitive to jump in and change a build because you don’t think someone should build a certain way

[coral crest]

look you claimed something that pretty much none was really able to do on known record and something that a lot of people complain about they cant do when trying lavos first time and not getting his kit

theres gotta be solid evidence, otherwise this is bordering on bs

and make believe

his 4 is designed around being a priming dependent nuke for a good reason

if his other kit wouldve dealt damage good enough to give the same results you mentioned it probably wouldve slipped somewhere

especially with people trying him out first time and seeing that all his abilties do dmg

i have absolutely no problems with "build identity", hell i subsume abilities just go fit fashion better

but your claim isnt exactly reasonable

[undone dust]

this is such a peak thing to do

[coral crest]

but again, i am all up for sharing knowledge if its something fresh and new

so i await a response with geniune enthusiasm, if you actually have some sort of proof/demonstration

[undone dust]

infinite fart lavos best lavos

[coral crest]

Vadarya was just a distraction to let this continue existing

[timid ivy]

Ok so

[timid ivy]

@coral crest what would you do to this build 🤔 while keeping its identity as a full caster spam build

And would there be any subsumes in mind for my 2

Im thinking of subsume but my brain keeps thinking of the mushroom

[coral crest]

Would kinda depend on whether you want to take him to longer games like cascade and all

[timid ivy]

Generalist SP

Longer modes im not going to stray from his intended path

[coral crest]

Health tanking on Lavos is super good but it has an expiration date if you're taking to stuff at like lvl700 and onward for endurance and whatever else

[timid ivy]

700sp?

[coral crest]

Some modes scale very fast, void cascade for an example

[timid ivy]

I wouldnt have expected him to make it all the way to 700 tbh

Color me impressed

😭

[undone dust]

it helps that bite heals tbh

[coral crest]

Bite heals work yeah

By not at the point enemies start oneshotting you

[undone dust]

yeah definitely not LMAO

[coral crest]

He absolutely can make it to level cap without a subsume

But its a different sort of build

[undone dust]

shield gating my beloved

[coral crest]

He doesn't have energy, so you're building a different way to survive

One that usually works better on other frames, but can work on him with extra effort

[timid ivy]

I wish he had more proactive healing

[coral crest]

If you want to just do general stuff without staying for an hour in a Cascade fissure then you can just health tank and it'll be billion times more comfy

Oh yeah also you'll be seeing a shield broken blue screen effect almost every moment of you staying alive if you go the cursed way

[gritty hound]

Does primary acuity not let you get red crits on the basmu anymore?

[timid ivy]

I know what youre talking about

[coral crest]

Yeah they fixed it, it's no longer multi

[gritty hound]

That's so lame

[undone dust]

at least it still has multi gun co

[coral crest]

I bet if they could they'd fix multi co as well

[undone dust]

if they fix multi gun co i might actually die

[coral crest]

Well, regardless

[timid ivy]

If I did level cap I wouldn't use lavos

[coral crest]

I mean you can, he's actually one of the stronger level cappers

[timid ivy]

More effort than its worth even if 90% of my if experience has been on lavos

I would probably use xaku or rev

[coral crest]

Because he can force gas on influence and force influence on gas

[timid ivy]

In english

[coral crest]

But yeah you are correct

[coral crest]

People just use Valence Formation on an influence melee and make it a gas bomb

[timid ivy]

Ouuuu

[coral crest]

Works especially well with Contagion Zaws

[timid ivy]

I need to get a new melee

[coral crest]

But your brain will stop working about halfway through

It's no caster

[timid ivy]

Im still running ripkas on lavos just bc im too lazy to find one I like

[coral crest]

So anyways back to caster

[timid ivy]

Yes

[coral crest]

Dual Viciss for gas valence formation or Dual Ichor Incarnon. Ichor literally has a unique perk called "Alchemist's wrath"

[timid ivy]

Incarnon

Thats the duviri thing right

[coral crest]

Yeah

[coral crest]

So

I dunno what Ash claimed and whether there's actually some secret sauce to let his 1-3 work to kill

But precision intensify + range is usually all you need tbh

Extra bit from me

High efficiency is actually very good on Lavos

[timid ivy]

Okayy

[undone dust]

impetus my beloved

[timid ivy]

Do i swap guardian for bellicose or is there some secret sauce beyond bellicose

[coral crest]

Belly?

[timid ivy]

Sorry my other message didn't send so I looked a lil silly.

[undone dust]

bellicose is not worth using on him unless you really build into health tbh

[coral crest]

Okay so

[timid ivy]

I mean doesnt he have high health already

[undone dust]

even with say archon vitality, its only an extra 30% smth strength

[coral crest]

If you want to survive as a health tank, you'll need hp and armor

[undone dust]

at base? not really

[coral crest]

Lavos could take triple Umbral mods very well

[gritty hound]

You could also put evade on lavos for the easiest survivability ever

[timid ivy]

I dont have umbral forma

[coral crest]

That would eliminate the need for precision intensify

[coral crest]

We are talking full caster here

[undone dust]

bro missed what i said earlier

[timid ivy]

Huras + full caster is basically evade

Teehee

[coral crest]

Yeah Huras with invisibility if you arent shooting is great

Oops wrong message

[undone dust]

having a hound or diriga helps with the priming part tbh

[gritty hound]

You can do caster as evade lavos though? Unless you're putting some other helminth on him

[coral crest]

Only with higher efficiency

But yeah, archon vitality + health conversion is good on Lavos

Health conversion feeds off orbs to give you massive armor, and Lavos never wastes orbs

[timid ivy]

Also if I subsume lowkey I'd put it on 2 because i despise how much it displaces me when trying to stay somewhat stationary

[undone dust]

blessing would help with extra health or you can go guardian for extra armor

[timid ivy]

I would probably swap it for a viral primer of some sort

Since im losing access to cold by subsuming anyways

[coral crest]

I don't think there are any outside of nourish and wyrd scythes

[timid ivy]

Shiit

[undone dust]

companions and weapons but thats about it

[coral crest]

Yeah

[undone dust]

and nourish would only work on damaged or just to add viral to your primer

[timid ivy]

Faaah ok

[coral crest]

His 2 can be used by tap firing and jumping immediately

It spreads all vials you would've casted for the remainder of your rush in a circle

[timid ivy]

Even then It takes me a second to return to reality lwk

Because of the FOV change

[coral crest]

Run 2 casting speed shards or your life will be hell

[timid ivy]

Ill have to turn it off

[undone dust]

vial is really fun on nova and hildryn

[timid ivy]

I run 1 tau 🦮

[coral crest]

Run 2 tau

[timid ivy]

Im on Y R R R G

For shards

[coral crest]

I'm on Y Y R R G

[timid ivy]

Hmm

[coral crest]

Believe it's worth it

[timid ivy]

Do I still need g if running corrosive proj

[coral crest]

Ehhhh

Ehhhhhhhhhhh

If you also have archon cont then probably not

I run Growing Power because of Valence synergy but I'm a freak

[timid ivy]

I wanna stray away from mecha but mecha has treated me well

Its a really hard breakup for me

[coral crest]

Pro tip

[timid ivy]

Cause its been on my main setup since day 1

[coral crest]

You can have a mecha set with 3 out of 4 set pieces and still kill stuff with it

[timid ivy]

Its the cool down aspect

From 3 to 4 it goes from 30s to 15s

[coral crest]

You aren't actively seeking mecha targets are you

It's just a nice bonus

[timid ivy]

U have a point

[coral crest]

You don't have that many good aura picks anyway

Oh yeah

[timid ivy]

Theres like 4

[coral crest]

Just fyi, mecha isn't working properly until old peace comes out

You'll have to wait

[timid ivy]

🤯

Ok I need to change it

[gritty hound]

I used to like mecha quite a bit on lavos but after using hounds I can't go back
The auto priming and nuking is just too good

[timid ivy]

Do tell what is hounds

[coral crest]

Oh yeah

Hounds

[gritty hound]

Robodog companions you get from sisters of parvos

[undone dust]

peak primers and nukers

[coral crest]

Custom built robo dogs from sister of parvos

Like moa but actually good

[gritty hound]

Ngl at the end I started kinda disliking mecha, like the icon is so tiny and it appears on any random enemy
Real pain to find sometimes

[coral crest]

You aren't looking for it

It's like a surprise treat you forgot about

[gritty hound]

Yeah I don't like that

[coral crest]

That ash person now made me wonder what the hell they were doing to kill higher level sp stuff with anything but Catalyze

[timid ivy]

Wdym not working btw

[coral crest]

• Carnis
• Gladiator
• Mecha
• Nira
• Saxum
• Synth
• Tek
• Vigilante

Their set bonuses only stack if used within your warframe

Stuff like weapons or pets stopped counting

It'll be fixed in old peace

[timid ivy]

So if its not aura or mod it wont work

At all

[coral crest]

Yeah right now you can't get more than r2 of the set bonus

Because of mecha aura and the armor one

[timid ivy]

Ok so for now swap off

[coral crest]

Yeah

Once it's fixed you can probably try it

Hound can't use mecha, but it's a whole different beast

It's like a walking sentinel with a set of abilities that spread status like crazy

[timid ivy]

I forget who the sisters of parvos even are

[coral crest]

Corpus liches

[timid ivy]

Ah

[gritty hound]

Parvos' sisters

[timid ivy]

🤯

Ive never done a single tenet weapon

[coral crest]

Killing them also grants their hound

And a blueprint for a part of it

[timid ivy]

I still have a kuva zarr unfinished

Im lazy

[coral crest]

Either way, your best bet for caster lavos is either triple Umbral or Archon Vitality/Health Conversion/precision intensify

Then you just build range and duration

If you have a spare slot add efficiency

[timid ivy]

Would i be able to survive triple umbral without using too many formas / not making the other builds unusable

[coral crest]

Replace Bellicose with Impetus. It's 60% str and 30% efficiency if you inflict all statuses you have on the list and keep applying at least one every 20 seconds

[timid ivy]

What if I just omni every slot except for the 3 umbras

[gritty hound]

Get 2 lavoses?

[timid ivy]

😊

Thats a lot of work

[coral crest]

Omni forma doesn't actually increase the umbra mod cost

[timid ivy]

Yeah I know

Wait

U mean it doesnt have a neg?

[coral crest]

Yeah

[timid ivy]

It stays neutral

[coral crest]

Yep

[timid ivy]

🤯

Interesting

[coral crest]

Omni is treated like a formaless slot for umbra mods

[timid ivy]

Fire

[coral crest]

Also

[timid ivy]

Ok lemme see whT I can do

[coral crest]

Bonus absolutely idiotic strat on Lavos

Like geniunely mental

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Arcane_Eruption

Check the stats of this arcane

[timid ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/loony-toons-eye-popping-hot-gif-10235440

So its just like

[coral crest]

30m of no line of sight knockdown with no line of sight

[timid ivy]

Constantly throwing banana peels

[coral crest]

Or cooldowns

[timid ivy]

At the feet of everyone

[coral crest]

From universal orbs

Everyone is just on the ground all the time

[hexed sundial]

Rhino stomp 2.0

[timid ivy]

Is there other ways to increase orb drops apart from synth doggo mod

[coral crest]

Duplex bond

Oh wait it doesn't work on Lavos

[coral crest]

You don't really need more orbs

[gritty hound]

Grimoire mod

[coral crest]

Lavos turns all orbs universal, and they trigger eruption

[timid ivy]

Do I need adaptation if im running 3x umbral

[coral crest]

Yes

Any health tank needs adaptation

It's damage reduction that applies after everything

[coral crest]

And he doesn't waste them most of the time

So eruption is active almost always

Banana peel of a 30 meter radius

[gritty hound]

Silliest cc in the game

[coral crest]

By far

[timid ivy]

Ok so

[onyx monolith]

if zarr procs elec, that elec can weakpoint kill?

[timid ivy]

If I do the funny omni thing, I'll still need to use atleast 1 umbral forma

[novel bear]

Lycath’s hunt

[coral crest]

There are plenty of nice subsumes for orbs but it would mess with impetus

I'm talking about eruption on Lavos solely because he doesn't need it

[timid ivy]

Is the bonus dot damage from valence worth running it even if I dont plan to make use of the weapon dmg

[coral crest]

He only consumes an orb every 10 seconds passively, the rest is put to Eruption

[gritty hound]

Yes, it buffs your 4 by a LOT

[coral crest]

Yeah, it's really worth it

[timid ivy]

ok so heres what i slapped together 🪑

[coral crest]

Put overextended over stretch and you're golden

[gritty hound]

You really don't need arcane guardian if you're using umbral

[coral crest]

^

[fresh surge]

arcane bellicose is also good

[timid ivy]

-1 capacity

lets do some tinkering again

[coral crest]

Oof

[timid ivy]

exilus

maybe

[coral crest]

Umbra forma times 2 strikes again

The evil

[timid ivy]

FAWWWK

lemme check other build to see if it survives the strike of umbra x2

[coral crest]

Try the archon one

With vitality, health conversion and precision

Vitality actually drastically increases your 4's damage ramp up

It's a massive hit, and a massive heat proc

Vitality adds a second heat proc

[timid ivy]

health conv + adapt or no

[coral crest]

Yes

[timid ivy]

from the looks of it tho i should be fine

even with 2x umbra

yippeee

[coral crest]

Slap adaptation and overextended here instead of stretch

And your bread and butter caster lavos is complete

[gritty hound]

Steel fiber is fine for lavos if you're hurting for mod space rn

[timid ivy]

overex and adap puts me at 0 cost

perfect

[coral crest]

🫡

[timid ivy]

this means i can have both hehe

10 forma lavos 😋

nothing but the best for my king

[coral crest]

For a pet consider either a hound, a mecha Huras(once it's fixed) or a diriga

[timid ivy]

i have huras rn

[coral crest]

I would say that hound is the best but

Dogs have retriever mods

[timid ivy]

i need to first eliminate my zarr

[shut saffron]

where wyrm

[coral crest]

And this is a farming game

[timid ivy]

ok but more farming means more content

[coral crest]

You just sat on it

[timid ivy]

so in a way less is more

[shut saffron]

at some point more base ressources is kinda pointless

[timid ivy]

less retriever mods = more fun

[shut saffron]

like i dont need another 4 million rubedo

[coral crest]

Then hound is your real best friend

[timid ivy]

which hound

or does it not matter

[coral crest]

Oh that's a whole different can of worms

I'm not sure why would Lavos need wyrm

[shut saffron]

idk man wyrm gets to do negate (status cleanse on short cd) + reinforced bond (free 60% fire rate) + tenacious bond (+1.2x crit dmage bonus) + augur set bonus (free shield gating with no mods on frame)

[coral crest]

We are talking about Lavos

[shut saffron]

if ur doing pure caster it doesnt really matter

[timid ivy]

lavos cleanse

[coral crest]

There is no shield gating

And no status

[timid ivy]

also yeah

[undone dust]

couldnt naut be nice for grouping

[shut saffron]

yea

[timid ivy]

yes

[coral crest]

Maybe yeah

But have you considered a robot dog that can actually be named

Instead of a nameless drone

[undone dust]

DE let me name my sentinels

[timid ivy]

i fear i thought i was original when i named my huras ghost

then i saw an overframe comment that made me realize i was not

[coral crest]

I named my Huras Ivara Prime

[timid ivy]

does she go invisible

[coral crest]

Yes

[timid ivy]

amazing

my chesa is named cheeseburger

[coral crest]

My Chesa is named Sir Gideon Ofnir

[undone dust]

my chesa is named dogkros

[timid ivy]

my huras is lowkey kinda fat

no offense to him tho but

he looks not so stealthy

i named my Pharaoh Predaside Full AP Nasus

[coral crest]

@timid ivy "why use hound" in 3 images

[timid ivy]

oh

wowzas

[coral crest]

Hound weapons use normal melee mods as well so you won't have to look for extra beast claw mods to supercharge the amount of elements

And you can slap condition overload

[timid ivy]

unfortunately i already spent 4 hours for bite

[coral crest]

[timid ivy]

so you have saved me from nothing

[coral crest]

It's fair

[timid ivy]

the damage has been done..

[coral crest]

Do you have the Nuke thing for predasites?

Kind of a must if you're using one

[timid ivy]

yes

[coral crest]

Then all seems to be settled

[eager ridge]

si there anything to improve apon

[timid ivy]

maybe ill swap to preda until mecha is fixed

[coral crest]

For a weapon on caster lavos I usually have Ogris with Napalm

Because napalm takes valence formation and you won't be shooting much anyway

[undone dust]

vizier is actually pretty nice for lavos because of the hefty heal cloud that it has

[timid ivy]

i just run classic cedo

[coral crest]

Valid

[timid ivy]

and kompressa 😋

[coral crest]

Lavos is also pretty cool with a grimoire

[timid ivy]

i have no idea how the grimoire works thats honestly the only reason im not using one

idk where to get the mods or how to build it

so i have stayed away

[coral crest]

You grind(buy) two mods, one activates on killing tagged enemies and another on hitting enemies with the alt fire

[deep grotto]

The requiem canticles or whatever are from deimos mirror defence anyway

[coral crest]

They give ability bonuses and other general boosts like recharge delay or armor strip

It's cheaper to buy the grimoire pack from the in-game market than to try and buy it from players

[deep grotto]

Could have just looked it up mate

[timid ivy]

at the time i got my grimoire i was focused on other things

so i didn't bother

[coral crest]

But the best part about using grimoire is that you can pretend that you are literate

[deep grotto]

The ultimate dream of a Warframe player

[timid ivy]

my favorite thing to do

[undone dust]

grimoire is true caster fantasy

i hope we get more books with unique alt fires

[coral crest]

I run it on Lavos for Efficiency and shield recharge delay

[deep grotto]

My friend calls it the “F**k you, magic!” Book

[coral crest]

"I work out at the library"

[deep grotto]

Lmfao

[timid ivy]

ok so noted

10 forma + grimoire + metal dog

in a nutshell

[coral crest]

That's your average caster kit

Yeah

[deep grotto]

I hear there’s a metal dog mod that lets them steal an eximus’s powers

That one’s pretty cool tbh

[coral crest]

It works with Manifold Bond btw

[deep grotto]

Yeah

Forgot what that does

[coral crest]

Manifold applies all modded elements on your pet's weapons as guaranteed status on abilities

[timid ivy]

i need to farm credits more than anything

[deep grotto]

Pop into 1999

[timid ivy]

im sitting on a "surplus" of endo but i have like 10k credits to my name

[deep grotto]

Tasty 100k per mission

[coral crest]

If the hound steals fire eximus and uses the heat explosion with manifold equipped

[timid ivy]

must craft chroma first

[deep grotto]

It’s good credits even without the money dragon

[timid ivy]

better than index or no

[coral crest]

It's better than index even without chroma, yeah

You get arcanes on top of that

[fervent rapids]

Profit-taker and Techrot Caches are both better than Index and have always been

[timid ivy]

📓 ✏️

[fervent rapids]

The only benefit of Index is how early you can access it

[timid ivy]

if i go to profit taker he's gonna take me

[coral crest]

I feel like profit taker takes a bit too much setup in comparison to caches

[timid ivy]

and my profits

[fervent rapids]

oh yeah 100%

[timid ivy]

how do i do caches anyways

[fervent rapids]

Caches are super accesible

[coral crest]

Youtube has good guides on caches

[timid ivy]

just go in grab safe leave

[fervent rapids]

In non-exterminate Höllvania mission you will find a glowing blue Techrot-covered safe (it also has a marker). Find the key nearby and open it for a guaranteed 100K credits each time

200K with Booster

[timid ivy]

i've opened it once before i believe

[coral crest]

Locations of the key are predetermined and are always within 100m so if you remember them it's pretty fast

[fervent rapids]

Exterminate missions instead have a Scaldra Cache that doesn't give as many Credits

[drifting hare]

I am not gonna lie boys, I might be genuinely pissed off. I've been trying to romance Eleanor for the past week but I managed to romance everyone BUT eleanor

[timid ivy]

ok so ill farm nokko while working on getting my lavos to 10 forma and then work from there

[undone dust]

also prosperous retriever sometimes bugs on PT so thats a bummer

[drifting hare]

HOW

[coral crest]

How could it bug

Spiders aren't bugs

[fervent rapids]

Messed up chats maybe

[coral crest]

[undone dust]

i was about to explain it and now im going to blow you up

[drifting hare]

Ig, but genuinely why is so hard to romance her?

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-loser-tiny-kitten-explode-gif-15623895175038521381

[drifting hare]

Yk, Amma go do a mission with her

[undone dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031602945634078730/1272502951759450213/twitter_1822656653113643246.gif

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/boomshakalaka-gif-25687559

[timid ivy]

i realize my plat reserves r gonna tank

I'll look back at it and be happy it's ok

[coral crest]

It's never too late to rip some people off in trade chat with prime sets trade some augment mods from syndicates

[timid ivy]

noo its ok

if i run 100 arbitrations i can get a BP theoretically

and then i just need 9

so it's not even THAT bad

also one more question abt the lavos

would i run power, cunning, or speed drift for exilus

its either range, STR, or cast speed

idk if the 15% cast speed from speed drift is enough to warrant not using another yellow shard

[coral crest]

For what?

[timid ivy]

omni forma

😁

[coral crest]

Nah, not enough

And str is really a bit of a waste on him

[timid ivy]

ok so range

[coral crest]

Absolutely range

2 yellow tau is better than natural talent in terms of speed

And that's already a sizable bonus

[vernal cedar]

Can someone please share a tatsu build

[timid ivy]

im losing 15% duration for the cast spd

[timid ivy]

i mean i feel like the one yellow tau is fine for me

it doesn't feel bad at all

[severe bough]

Just do the normal influence crab and if the stance is to weird for you standard heavy spam

[coral crest]

Oh well, if you're sure

[timid ivy]

preference thing

thank u for all your help i appreciate you

[coral crest]

have fun

<3

[visual kettle]

what should i change?

[tawdry roost]

im currently trying out the braton prime and i’ve got a riven mod, do i use it? how does it work?

[mighty flare]

What gun

[near vortex]

it looks like one of the kuva archweapons

two arcanes and a valence bonus

Grattler, actually

based on mag size

[solar reef]

mfs be like “is my build good”

like bro stop cropping your builds

😭

[solar reef]

I can almost read what the mods are, chop the image quality a little more

[mighty flare]

good start, farm for these mods and replace accordingly:

• point strike --> critical delay
• infected clip --> malignant force
• crit dmg --> vital sense
• fire rate --> vile acceleration

[mighty flare]

venomous clip & electrified barrel --> hypothermic shell & contamination casting (if possible) for viral heat
containment breach --> critical focus
primary crux --> primary merciless
electric valence --> magnetic valence

[tawdry roost]

will do next time

[visual kettle]

grattler

[visual kettle]

kuva grattler

[visual kettle]

cant really make viral heat with electric as valence, or can i

[mighty flare]

swap valence element

[quiet laurel]

yo guys how is my build looking

[tawdry roost]

damnnn it’s strong asl

[fervent rapids]

Better than 50% of what people send since the mod is actually ranked

[severe bough]

What can be a good gyre platformer build anyone got a idea?

[mighty flare]

using with nautilus to replace 2 grouping

(would want equilibrium over transt fortitude) subsume can be roar / shock trooper / etc

[severe bough]

Whats the Special thing which makes her so good for a Platformer build?
Just met someone in lvl cap casc using one but with pillage instead

[mighty flare]

pillage works good too

[severe bough]

Ive got that on my nuke gyre for the armor strip and shield gate but dunno how it performs when using a plat build

[mighty flare]

energy/ (forced) electric/crit buffs

[severe bough]

Sounds really good

[mighty flare]

nuke is funny in that weapon platform >>> caster

ability dps giga needs strip

[severe bough]

Also what i noticed my build is almost the same execpt i use pillage over her 1 and i dont use conductive sphere which is probably a most on the Plat build

[mighty flare]

if external grouping (nautilus) --> subsume over 2

[severe bough]

If not then subsume 1 ? Or just use external grouping

[mighty flare]

if ur going full ability dps then forced electric from 1 aug isnt gonna be used no?

basically gyre likes grouping, so always have something

[severe bough]

That what im current running for the nuke one

[severe bough]

Cus u wanna keep the 1 idealy on the platf build u can use smth like nauti to group aswell?

[mighty flare]

yeah

forced electric from 1 aug is good

[mighty flare]

id always use equilibrium if im not using nourish
over secrets

[severe bough]

The Question is now how do that to use pillage for nuke and plat for dif abilitys

[severe bough]

Ive planned on using it aswell but currently got a pair of tau purpls and i always got snyth decon on nauti

[severe bough]

Or mabye i just run nourish on the plat Build might be better

[severe bough]

Wait your lazy gating how u gating with it?

[mighty flare]

augur seeker

[severe bough]

A well

Option to take trans off for augur reach if not running any augur mods on weapons?

[mighty flare]

sure

[severe bough]

Ty ty might go with that for the next cap run

[severe bough]

U often run casc or do you have any frame recommendations or weapons whatever

So many option and i dunno what to play with

[mighty flare]

vastilok/stropha, mostly any melee with some sort of projectile
shotguns, beams (amprex/phage/phantsma/furis, etc)
anything you want

[severe bough]

Gunblades? Never really used them outside of eidolons ( basically vastilok )
What we build that on ?

[chrome badge]

i like my melees like i like my guns

spewing projectiles

[severe bough]

Influence works on heavy shot ? I thought the dont proc elc. Also why no ppp/saci pressure over killing blow is the wind up very important?

[mighty flare]

more wind up = better schmoovement = qol

[grand timber]

Pls i need a boltor incarnon build

[chrome badge]

ew influence

[next fossil]

So quick question, we all know that the peculiar mods are fully cosmetic however, does the Peculiar end mod help nekros by giving double drops from corpses just like the gore mechanic does with ripkas? i'm asking this since the mod says it dissolves the enemies in dread

[fresh surge]

i'm more inclined to say it will even hurt nekros as the body will disappear faster

ok nevermind here is what wiki says about this

[versed harbor]

nah, the ripkas thing is just to do with multiple body parts (so its not even exclusive to ripkas, just much easier)

other death effects dont rly matter

[next fossil]

Dang

They should give me more mods with gore stat on them

So i can slap on my doom cosplay warframe on with that tol

[obsidian bluff]

So i decided to make my Hildryn Prime as a wasp/killer bee (or queen bee), but im drawing a blank as to what weapons would be perfect for this build. Someone told me to get Yareli's pistols and make it look like cans of bug spray (which i couldn't pass up the idea), but im not sure what would be best for the melee and primary. Anyone got some suggestions?

[next fossil]

big bee needs coda sporthorix and dual visciss

[tawny nova]

For my war build, Should I add more status chance, replace status with more elemental, or just keep as is for now?

[next fossil]

get Vicious Frost instead of North wind

60+ cold 60+ status chanse

if you want even more status chanse get Volcanic Edge instead of Molten impact

[tawny nova]

Ty!

[next fossil]

you also have 2 toxin mods, some people would rather swap the primed fever strike with a primed faction mod instead because it would deal double damage to the specific faction but that's completely up to you

if you don't have a faction mod you can also go for elemental damage instead like Melee Elementalist, or Galvanized Elementalist

[obsidian bluff]

You appear to be onto something with the rifle. As for the melee, i was kinda leaning towards like something that resembles a bee stinger. However, it did give me an idea for another build, so thank you for the suggestions

I can use the dual visciss for a grim reaper build for sevagoth

[next fossil]

I thought about the mele just because it's an gass related weapon which also room clears easily, I personally love schyte type weapons but othervise you could also use Azothane instead because it kinda looks like a big long stinger

[obsidian bluff]

Hmm... that could work nicely. Looks like i got an excuse to grind in the Duviri

[next fossil]

Thalys looks really good on Sevagoth but unfortunately it's an really weird weapon because it's slow and the way it deals damage is confusing mechanical wise, it's a good weapon and it's been called the best mele weapon in the game but idk

[obsidian bluff]

I'll figure something out. Right now i need to get all the parts for sevagoth before i start doing creative stuff with him

[azure tinsel]

What shards does xaku want

[scarlet mason]

Hey! I was thinking about banshee with coil horizon and augment Coil Recharge. Since electricity can hit multiple body parts and sonar being sonar. Unfortunately i don't have gyre subsumed and can't test it. Can someone help me with this?

[neat patio]

Does anybody know if Yareli's aquablades ability, if infused onto Titania, would activate during razorwing?

[next fossil]

if you activate the ability before going into razorwing form it should still be active on you

[bitter drum]

i run 300 duration and 170 range zephyr, if anyone else plays zephyr, yall know if Silence subsume or Spellbind subsume best fits her?

[near vortex]

xatas

[bitter drum]

i don’t run high strength

thts why im choosing an ability that just makes better qol

[near vortex]

I do Xatas over 2 with strength and duration dumping range and efficiency

it's very funny with Kuva Sobek

[bitter drum]

i’ve seen builds like that before, n looks great

[near vortex]

do you have Kuva Sobek

[bitter drum]

pretty attached to high dura though. thts why, if i choose Silence, both ranged attacks and enemy abilities can’t hurt me, so only melee attacks would. but, Spellbind makes immune to status effects, so still only melee attacks can hurt me and some aoe/abilities

no

i use titron on her tornadoes and have furis incarnon as well as latron incarn

[near vortex]

Kuva Sobek's Acid Shells can hit each tornado for some funny damage
It's funny watching everything in the tornadoes just explode

[bitter drum]

ive seen it yeah, but i like the gas procs instantly killing enemies on each tic with the titron

[near vortex]

Silence probably wouldn't be a terrible option, but I have a personal vendetta against it because people use it on Limbo to cover up their issue in skill

I haven't subsumed a Titania yet nor played one so I can't speak on Spellbind

[bitter drum]

i’ve used silence for a while, so just been asking ppl their opinion on which would be better

[near vortex]

I highly recommend making a second config with Xatas over 2, min range high strength with funnel clouds and jet stream
Absolutely glorious damage with Sobek hitting every cloud

[bitter drum]

i subsumed spellbind recently, and while i’m immune to status effects, i can still be damaged by the actual status damage and enemy abilities. whereas with silence, it literally just turns off their ability to do their abilities, so no status effects from eximus or pulled down by those infested with the hooks.

ppl seem to think silence is the better way to go with the low strength, so ig i’ll go back to that

[bitter drum]

n yeah i’ll def look into that, sounds fun

[near vortex]

Kuva Sobek is also just a great weapon to have
You've probably heard about it with Oraxia, Saryn and Cyte, but frames like Nova, Garuda and Zephyr ofc have some fun synergies with acid shells

[bitter drum]

from what i’ve gathered, you seem to be an avid Kuva Sobek enjoyer

lol

[near vortex]

Oh yeah, of course

This is my name in another server

[mighty flare]

silence

[bitter drum]

i respect it

[umbral shale]

What mods should I use for my prime wisp?
I'm kinda new to this game

[fleet vector]

if i subsume Venari off of Khora, will the pet still attack + proc bond mods or will it do nothing?

[cloud tusk]

Anyone down to help me make this gauss build? I saw it from a video and wana try it but im still new and dont have all the stuff for it

[jade gate]

which one os better for gun buff saryn? roar or xata's whisper??

[mighty flare]

Roar

[tawny bay]

Question

Glaxion
+59.6% toxin
+83% critical damage

Or

Glaxion
+51.9% cold
x1.26 damage to grinder
+100.3% critical chance
-29% zoom

[charred gale]

It’ll do everything normally but u cant manually rez venari or change forms

[midnight horizon]

Roar def

100% roar is 8x multi to Toxic Lash DoT

[hexed sundial]

toxin crit damage one is prob better

you get free viral because glaxion has innate cold

and the crit damage is nice

[wise nova]

Pure viral on a weapon that can status feels kinda funny.

I'd probably go something like corrosive/blast or gas/cold with that but for traditional viral/heat you'll need 3 elementals(which to be fair the first riven helps with too)

I'd probably take the first as well regardless. Most I can say about the second is the previously mentioned viral/heat, and maybe using the augment alongside an external source of cold. Only having 20% crit does mean extra crit chance helps with consistency I guess.

[hexed sundial]

viral heat on glaxion is crazy

you can like stack 3 heat mods and primary crux and get like hundreds of heat procs

melts anything after 1 tick

[wise nova]

Yeah viral/heat is really good in general. My only nitpick with it is that I like having cold for the augment, but there isn't really any good status build combos with cold still in it.

Best is probably gas/cold, but I you'd have to switch targets to deal with status cap. I generally just brute force with corrosive/cold, which works well enough alongside the magnetic mod.

[mighty flare]

you can just get cold somewhere else or not use aug, gas/cold is never the answer

[wise nova]

I mean, shivering contagion and a full gas stack is 6M of enemies frozen and taking damage over time. It just doesn't really deal the damage to make it worthwhile, especially with the time to kill of alternatives.

[stable plover]

Can i trust builds on overframe? Some of them seem a bit...off?

[austere stirrup]

Some of them are bad some of them are good

[civic apex]

I would highly suggest studying the games mechanics and learning to build craft yourself. Only if you have the time and feel that invested in the game of course. If not then overframe should be fine.

[granite ginkgo]

as long it NINJASE one, the rest is there to mess up ur gameplay with their game style

[grave cloak]

Cross reference the builds. Not all are always terrible contrary to popular belief but you do need to do a bit of work to see if the modding makes sense.

[granite ginkgo]

also dont believe what u watch in utube, lot of clickbait

[chrome badge]

i suggest not using overframe, i'd look at ninjase's research there as a guide but modding i'd try to mod within comfort

[fathom tapir]

Does anyone have a build for xaku prim since im about to have the silly bih, something not to complicated (im a lizard with half a braincell)

[mighty flare]

go high range with pos duration & strength
flow + equilibrium
subsume terrify/pillage over 3

[fathom tapir]

Id have to get terrify but i gotchu

(Remind me what pos means)

[mighty flare]

positive

[fathom tapir]

Iseees

So is efficiency the dump stat in this case?

[mighty flare]

as usual

[fathom tapir]

Lol

Tank u sir

[ashen plinth]

What’s a good gyre build

[prisma spindle]

So it’s been a while since I’ve shared an update in this server when it comes to my steel path Phantasma prime build but here’s my strongest updated build with an Arcane change

[mighty flare]

ts weapon platform

[prisma spindle]

Using the Riven Zeti Hexatox for my Phantasma prime along side the fully ranked Primary Blight Arcane

[grave cloak]

I use this. silence subsumed over her 2.

if you don't want to use the augment for her 1/don't find her 1 too useful you can put augur reach in it's place for more range.

[ashen plinth]

Okay thanks yall

[grave cloak]

you can also use omamori subsume over her 2 now that I think about it, but up to you ig

[mighty flare]

wheres ur crit chance and how are you triggering blight

[prisma spindle]

Crit chance is about 11% how I’m triggering blight is on Toxin status affect +3.6% crit dmg and +1.8% multishot for 12s Stacks up to 40X

Crit dmg is about 3.8X and my status/projectiles is about 64.4% my viral for my Phantasma prime is about 43.1% and the heat is above 35.8% which procs lots of heat dmg by itself too along side the toxin dmg

[mighty flare]

1. 11% crit chance is terrible for building crit dmg
2. you dont have toxin modded on ur phantasma

[prisma spindle]

I don’t have to actually

It procs plenty of high viral toxin dmg itself in which I’ve tested in steel path

[mighty flare]

viral doesnt do toxin

so where are you getting toxin

[prisma spindle]

It blasts damages pass shields and armor instant ripping shredding in less than a second or two Im pretty sure it’s doing toxin dmg from my viral Toxin riven

[mighty flare]

you have viral heat, you arent magically getting toxin from that
show the riven

[prisma spindle]

My Riven is Phantasma Zeti-Hexatox which gives +50.3% and +48.5% toxin viral but it has negative -52% weapon recoil

[mighty flare]

toxin viral doesnt exist

its cold + toxin for viral

[prisma spindle]

I have this plus my frigid blast mod which gives viral + cold

[mighty flare]

yes, and with those mods you have no toxin

so are you using saryn/oraxia/pharoah for the toxin

[mighty flare]

this is bad riven anyway

[prisma spindle]

And my Incendiary gives heat dmg procs +90% heat my Frigid blast gives about +60% cold +60% crit ch and no I’m using my Yareli prime

And no not really as long as I’m able to do both high toxin dmg plus viral + cold + individual heat dmg from my Phantasma prime

Which is what the mods do on my weapon

For the build I shared

My viral + cold dmg is about 43.1%

Radiation is +26.5% and my heat dmg is about 35.8%

[mighty flare]

this riven is just a weaker version of malignant force and much more expensive

[prisma spindle]

My overall dmg however is below 2k

But the status dmgs plus my Arcane Blight plus my Arcane Avenger on my Yareli prime helps to proc high dmg

[thin yacht]

You could go around focusing more stuff with the phantasma prime for statuses instead like primary crux for more ammo efficiency + status chance and other elements/damage mods, maybe those that benefit around elementalist

[grave cloak]

I have a bad feeling the teacher quest did nothing to help teach people how mods work

[scarlet bramble]

hey guys

anoyone into riven prices to help?

have 2 rivens to give me approx price

[dapper sonnet]

Does anyone know what the best stats to look for on dual ichor riven is? Not sure if I’m doing the math correctly so I was wondering what the god roll would be

[grave cloak]

in no particular order (except critical damage being the most important), CD/CC/range/AS/toxin/SC/cold/electric

[dapper sonnet]

I see thank you, just out of curiosity do you know what combo of those stats tend to be the most desired as far as sale price goes?

[grave cloak]

nah I'm not that person unfortunately

[dapper sonnet]

All good i appreciate the help

[high elbow]

The current state of my silly minion maxed nekros

thats with molt and camisado going

They hit 88k a shot on stripped SP enemies holy shit

[frozen flare]

Anyone have a cedo prime build they would recommend?

[drifting hare]

What mods should I put on tigris?

[old marsh]

Prime or Sancti?

[drifting hare]

Prime

[old marsh]

https://overframe.gg/build/782319/tigris-prime/mags-tigris-bubble-buffer-vir-rad/ i follow this one. change elements based on enemy type

[drifting hare]

Ah alr thanks

[simple pawn]

is there any augments for dante"?

like a mod

[queen sandal]

Wanted to look up if anyone needed help with Sevagoth and saw this thanks for spreading the word 🫡

[charred gale]

dont think there is

[onyx monolith]

yes, its called blind rage and umbral intensify

[tall sphinx]

is this good enough for general sp

[charred gale]

yes

[tall sphinx]

ty

what could be changed or can be better