builds-discussion

[gilded spoke]

PPPFFFFFFTTTTTT WE JUST BROKE THE GAME 🤣

Our game crashed due to a combine proc registration error

[maiden geode]

also I'd replace umbral fiber for any str mod of your choice, rage is quite unreliable and not that huge, you already got that riven with damage and possibly another damage mod as well as the aura, even more base damage is meh, Guardian gives you a lot more flat armor, more str (or anything else thats QoL) gives you more value, You could even go with Vigorous swap instead which is easier to maintain than arcane rage

[icy light]

:l

So was the umbral mods not getting halved under omni polarity a bug or?

[shut saffron]

no they never did

[maiden geode]

thats intended.

[icy light]

Did I seriously waste a precious omni forma for this.

[maiden geode]

would make umbral forma* worthless

[icy light]

They gotta drop a Primed Intensify sometime soon

[maiden geode]

Well you could have checked it, umbra forma are less common than the omni forma you can just purchase of the market, would be silly if you could just use that for umbral mods

we already got intensify, umbral intensify, precision intensify and archon intensify

[icy light]

I put it on the worst slot too...

[maiden geode]

you probably wont see another type of intensify very soon

[icy light]

I don't really need or desire a 4th ability intensify (that I alr have.) And Archon intensify is only +30. And the other half is behind a heal. Wh... what am I supposed to do with that for Excal?

I'm gonna see what other sacrifice mod I can drop.

[pseudo wharf]

Alr thx u both @maiden geode and @mighty flare

[mighty flare]

i forgot to mention using energize over rage, which reduces pads usage
also the reason corrosive projection is desired is cuz it'll apply armor strip to water limbs, which we dont have time to vastilok strip

also lures which slightly speeds of charge time

[pseudo wharf]

Ic

[mighty flare]

the armor strip on water limbs is important because thats like the entire reason you even use zenith over other guns

you can also use like arcane velocity for a secondary limb dps weapon

[maiden geode]

you usually have your 1 ready doing these, which is another 1000% multiplier, which can easily onetap even with a cheapo zenith no armor strip 1 shield only so thats irrelevant.

but i agree with the arcane velocity part

[gloomy elm]

do i drop status here and go full crit or just stay like this am kinda confused like build is doing good

[charred gale]

Dont drop status

[gloomy elm]

because i made a full crit build and it was doing okish

[snow ice]

Unfortunately yes

[distant abyss]

I’m trying to build stynax and wukong, any tips on what stats to build into and what weapons work well with them? I’ve been playing for awhile but I don’t have any archon shards or mods so i know that limits how good they can really be

[maiden geode]

wif you have a sim just try out some stuff and see what suits you the best :>

[gloomy elm]

am that is the thing i don't

i have to unlock it at some point

[mighty flare]

Gaptitude is less effective on burston incarnon, keep viral

[wanton widget]

So I am trying out a build that is focused on exploiting Garuda's Bloodletting and Seeking Talons. Using Nourish + Bloodletting for energy and Reconstruction for healing. Its A nuke spam that requires a lot of mobility. Thoughts? Any suggestions or build recommendations?

[past condor]

Gauda's 4th is less for nukes but more for bleed forcing for the rest of gear and team..

[gloomy elm]

so if that's the case i put another status instead of aptitute idk i will decide tomorrow thx

[wanton widget]

So this is a support nuke rather than a full on nuke?

[past condor]

kinda, i'd recomend a bit more survivabiliity so u won't 1 tapped later on..

[mighty flare]

You don’t have fire rate modded unless that’s the riven

[wanton widget]

recommendation?

Umbral vitality?

[charred gale]

Catalyzing shields

[maiden geode]

that ^and you're good to go

but dont expect to nuke with the 4. the 1 is for nuking

[charred gale]

And also if u want to bother with vigorous swap its a big boost for her 1

[wild rune]

I got a viral elec riven

[tepid citrus]

wouldn't that be corrosive cold...?

[wild rune]

rivens go from the bottom up, last I checked

[past condor]

u should keep stregth above 150% for 100% bleed from 4th, off a bit the range it not helps much as u aim the talons, aside of the vitality try to abuse more Quick thinking / Adapptation here...

[wild rune]

yea, viral elec

I could unironically use that riven and slam elementalist and bane in the freed slots
would it be optimal? probably not
but it'd be funny

[maiden geode]

electric isn't really ideal yea but having low % of cold and toxin for viral is always great to save up slots, especially if you desire a low viral weight on a low dispo weapon, thats pretty much the best use case

[past condor]

need a Xalibur build anyone?

80% to over red crits => 21k dmg x 33.6~44.8 (= 718k~957k dmg) + ~10 Heat procs per tap..

[crystal osprey]

Is this a good riven for epitaph? if no what should i look for?

[charred gale]

for priming?

[crystal osprey]

yeah

[maiden geode]

is ok for priming

[charred gale]

having slash is pretty bad since it dilutes the status pool

u want multishot, fire rate, status/status chance

anything that gives more status/second

[crystal osprey]

ah oke oke

[charred gale]

why do u have arcane avenger when u have wrathful advance

[maiden geode]

they prolly dont really care about diminishing returns given the 5 purples

[charred gale]

and does afflictions even proc consistently on exalted blade

[maiden geode]

seems like they're all or mostly just CD

[charred gale]

im pretty sure arcane fury would give more of an overall buff

[maiden geode]

definetly

[past condor]

any melee hit that flinges/knocki/lifting counts

[charred gale]

ik but does exalted blade consistently do that?

[past condor]

rest of the weps

[charred gale]

sure

[past condor]

exalted heavy attack knock foes so yes..

[past condor]

ah and more consistent crit wen not usin Advance..

[stuck cypress]

Hey does anyone here have a good Venka build?, been having issues to make a build or find one

[wild rune]

I thought Bassocyst preferred electric over heat since it's the only Plasmor-type gun that has headshot multipliers without Deadhead?
-# unless I'm wrong and it actually doesn't have headshot multis
I actually need to switch my element off of cold, thinking about it

[past condor]

claw have forced slash procs on heavy attack, u could focus on it with some combo count efficiency..

[stuck cypress]

So I’d be slamming the ground most of the time?

[severe bough]

Either u go influence crab or afflitction heavy spam

[maiden geode]

its more about the weight being low on the riven, you got roughly half the electric weight compared to viral

[mighty flare]

garuda only needs 134% strength, you reach 139% with only blind rage & overextended
theres no point in using other strength mods
you want vigorous swap and casting speed shards
you don't need psf because of her 1

the best survivability boost you can get is using huras since garuda doesnt need weapons anymore after changes allows her ball to kill acolytes

[maiden geode]

more strength is nice for nourish and the 3rd abillity making you cast it even less, and even vigorous swap is absolute overkill, I'd not waste a mod slot on that just to get bigger numbers that i dont really need.

and assuming you're actually going to spam stuff anyways brief respite or any augur mod + Catalyzing shields is perfectly fine

just add some cast speed shards and you're good to go as long as cast stuff.
But the huras is indeed a nice addition.

[wild rune]

I feel it should be fine with an electric progen, but that also comes with the cost of no magnetic...

actually, doesn't bassocyst altfire already force magnetic? that could work then

[maiden geode]

should be fine and not sure

[deep grotto]

Can i replace the racism mod btw? I doubt i’ll be using it

[mighty flare]

use primed pressure point

[past condor]

no, heavy forced bleed proc not works for slam attacks on any type of wep that has such feature...

[charred gale]

why does she specifically need 134% strength

[mighty flare]

+100% slash chance from her 4
theres no point in going beyond that

[charred gale]

ah ic, thanks

[maiden geode]

you dont even really need that

you rarely ever see enemies survive the 1 anyways

[charred gale]

doesnt her 4 make her 1 do more dmg

[maiden geode]

makes it proc slash

[maiden geode]

thats exactly what i said

[charred gale]

yeah so u do need the 100% status chance

[maiden geode]

but as i already said, they rarely ever survive the raw damage of your 1, the 4 just makes it more reliable.

[charred gale]

u dont have to charge as long if u prime them

[maiden geode]

no, again, you dont "need" it, 95% of the time you wont even apply viral as they immediately die trough the raw damage. it will however also increase the raw damage if you're running nourish, the 4 applies viral.

[charred gale]

sure

[maiden geode]

you never really have to, but a 0.5s charge takes less time than the hit + waiting 1s for that slash proc.

Its not that deep anyways, you can play it however you want, but you'll rarely gain any value from that. assuming you're running nourish* like that person before, viral primed enemies trough her 4 will almost always die without a insanely high charged 1. you cant charge it that high anyways because the moment you got 10 digits? I think? it just breaks and does no damage, not even a hit.

the 4 is just a nice little "backup" for that one super heavy eximus that may survive the 1 barely.

[mighty flare]

genuinely i have no idea what you're trying to say
corrosive projection is the top aura to increase water limb dmg

[deft kayak]

What is the best valence for kuva orgis?

[mighty flare]

at 139% str from blind rage, each cast of nourished blood letting returns 432 energy
using trans fort + umbral intensify instead, grants 669 energy on each casts

adding more str is just wasting slots

[mighty flare]

for which frame are you using

[lunar gale]

what's a good aoe to run with mirage ?\

[charred gale]

Latron incarnon

[lunar gale]

anything that isn't an incarnon ? i really don't feel like aiming rn

[charred gale]

Ive seen people use akarius but u need energized munitions for the low ammo

[quiet laurel]

nah akarius lowkey fine without it

[lunar gale]

might try that

[charred gale]

Fr?

[quiet laurel]

it has decent enough ammo pickup count

[rocky rose]

My personal favorite aoe is epitaph

[charred gale]

Ic

[lunar gale]

this is my first time ever using energized munitions, why is the duration SO LOW

227% duration and i get 11.33sec 😭

[sick nymph]

run primed ammo mutation on akarius and you are more than sorted

[lunar gale]

gonna try with that first, hopefully it's enough cause i don't want to cast an ability every 11 sec 💀

[sick nymph]

I used to farm 1999 missions fat with a gauss using that lol

between that + pistoleer i couldnt see shit lmao

[lunar gale]

pistoleer works on akarius ?

[sick nymph]

yes

it can headshot lol

it has a projectile hit

[gilded spoke]

Okay! I finally got everything I needed! Here’s the refined build with the gameplay loop included for whoever is interested!

[novel bear]

Does breach surge double dip on arcane arachne?

[near vortex]

Breach surge uses it once iirc

Any weapon with breach surge uses it twice, and Glaives use it thrice iirc

[near vortex]

Looks good, I reckon

[wanton widget]

would Shade prime work well with her?

or is it because of the stealth + mecha set?

[gilded spoke]

I am open to criticism for this build now

(My mom got onto me for getting aggressive at yall as she’s also in this server 😅)

[novel bear]

Moving too far away from enemies breaks shade’s stealth, but not huras’

[wanton widget]

ah

[shut saffron]

3 omni is way too much im ngl

[mighty flare]

huras has loot buff

[civic apex]

Yoooo. That's actually based 😂

[gilded spoke]

Well chroma is my main Warframe 😅 you can use any forma

[gilded spoke]

Yeah she doesn’t like us getting hyper aggressive at people very often

[civic apex]

I thought the Huras Kubrow also had break distance?

[civic apex]

As someone who suffers from intense emotions and emotional reactions...

I see the wisdom in that

[gilded spoke]

Oh damn we also have autism and adhd 😅

[civic apex]

BRO SAME

[gilded spoke]

Holy cow new level of respect for you my friend

[civic apex]

I got the double whammy too

[shut saffron]

chroma evade i hear goes pretty hard

[gilded spoke]

Do you ever just wind up accidentally sidetracking and yapping about something completely unrelated to the five conversations you just had?

We do that a lot…..

[coral crest]

There are at least 2 incarnons that don't require aiming but I get your pain

[shut saffron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1150797852029767781/1413056345623756820/POLICE_STEADY_WATCHING_ME.mp4?ex=690f9386&is=690e4206&hm=4f5a634021743f68cee835aab26f4bfb88bb9cda140d1e8ae4de646f61bd76c3&

[civic apex]

Yes. But speaking of which.... let's not do that here 😂

[shut saffron]

this is evade chroma showcase ^

[gilded spoke]

Yeah 🤣

[shut saffron]

think you should give it a try

[gilded spoke]

Im good I don’t like how headshot aggressive evade is

[shut saffron]

try recoil wepaons

synergizes with vex armor

[gilded spoke]

I really don’t want to change what already nukes for me

[shut saffron]

then why ask for input/suggestions

[gilded spoke]

Plus I have a panzer that feeds off my armor through Link Fiber to become an unkillable portable nuke

[gilded spoke]

You’re suggesting an entirely different build, not criticizing the build I already have

See where I’m coming from

[shut saffron]

i mean u can still run it from ur build

i just think armor tanking isnt great at scaling

[gilded spoke]

Things die so fast you barely take any lethal damage

[coral crest]

Yeah but scaling

If you try to go above and beyond intended levels you kinda get wrecked

But oh well

[gilded spoke]

I get the point but this build prints energy and nukes rooms

[quiet laurel]

bad

[coral crest]

I think only Baruuk can afford facetanking stuff with raw DR at high levels

And he has a channel ability that literally makes him avoid facetanking

Lol

[shut saffron]

not my gameplay

[gilded spoke]

Why would I have to worry about scaling when things just fall over? My panzer is a good example as it’s been bred to have every resistance and is built for heat shredding

[coral crest]

Getting oneshot

That's kinda it

But really this is for when you're rushing to high levels

[shut saffron]

4 citrines works but thats very silly

[quiet laurel]

jokes aside chroma gotta be one of the last frames I'd touch in cascade ngl

[coral crest]

Like above 1k or whatever

[shut saffron]

idk i did qorvex enjoyer so

doesnt get much worse

[coral crest]

You can do it with anyone if you have recharge delay and omamori

And aegis ig

[gilded spoke]

Oh in cascade I run excal or jade

[quiet laurel]

at least he has some cc to make slamming easier no?

[mighty flare]

qorvex burger

[coral crest]

Qorvex slams with his 2

[quiet laurel]

chroma is just an outdated dps frame with no other qol

[coral crest]

[shut saffron]

youll never believe this

[shut saffron]

not really

the 1 is really buns if u dont build high range

[mighty flare]

burger

[shut saffron]

and his only real utility ability gives him frame vuln

[coral crest]

Now that's the stuff

[quiet laurel]

and there we have it

should have built more range

[shut saffron]

his 3 would be p neat

if it didnt have vuln

[coral crest]

Any frame with invuln can abuse the shit out of recharge delay

[gilded spoke]

Do you guys want pictures of the build?

[coral crest]

Nokko is a great example

[shut saffron]

i mean u can also offload augur

and js do that if u dont trust regen

[coral crest]

You can have a little augur, as a treat

Unless you're Lavos then you're just gambling

Or cry while subsuming stuff on him

[near vortex]

Did your mom see what I said about Glaives and Exodia Contagion? Even if you want to stick with Hate as your main weapon, its def worth looking into at least for your mother

The build def looks fine, since you probably aren't taking it beyond base level SP

Once you actually play it in game you'll see if you feel like it does enough damage, if it feels tanky or has energy issues etc

[gilded spoke]

Im watching my dad play it

[deep grotto]

I know the Marelok and it’s Vakyor version probably don’t have much to em but uhh
How would you build em?

I’m curious if they have anything neat about em

[gilded spoke]

Also yes, she doesn’t use this combo often given she’s a Mesa main with 48 forma in Mesa Prime and 34 forma into Regulators

[gilded spoke]

I plan on testing its limits, heading to SP Kuva Fortress survival

That is once I get there 😅

[near vortex]

Uh
I'm not really sure
you can do the augment ig? I don't have a Vaykor Marelok to use of my own

[deep grotto]

Is it a steel meridian aug or something else

[near vortex]

Nightwave creds

[ornate cosmos]

how's this build? it has a little bit of strength

been thinking of swapping the exilus for either preparation or cunning

[slim cedar]

Which Riven should i swap in and what do i swap out?(Torid Incarnen half crit/half status for evolution 4) 🙂

[hexed sundial]

swap in sati-concitis (name of the riven) for vital sense, if you don't wanna always run a bane mode, you can swap the bane out for it too, which is what i would personally do

[grave cloak]

How do you intend to trigger arcane avenger?
Usually putting in streamline in the same build as blind rage is also sus, you either accept that your efficiency goes negative with blind rage and remedy it with reliable energy regeneration or just don't use blind rage

[ornate cosmos]

i messed around with that build a little
had an energy deficit
-# ignore archon cont, my primed one isn't fully leveled

[keen grotto]

Hy do you have akarius prime build

[grave cloak]

Archon stretch's passive energy regen doesn't work during mesa's 4 just a warning

[ornate cosmos]

i know
i tend to use and quit her 4 a lot

problem now is defense

[mortal palm]

Best build for Mesa prime?

[rigid shadow]

guys does archon intensify works with Chroma vex armour augment?

[fair silo]

Any tips for nidus high level content builds ? New to nidus and wanna see if I can push him to feel good and comfortable in that type of content.

[near vortex]

How high we talking?

Are you willing to take weapon suggestions

[shut saffron]

pistol amp is really bad please use corro proj

[near vortex]

growing power matches the polarity

[shut saffron]

you can move the polarity down and move a naramon up

corro proj by itself doubles ur damage on non armor stripped enemies

[fair silo]

Most definitely and like deep archimedea

Like rn level 400-600

[near vortex]

Hmmm
You MIGHT be able to get away with health tanking, but more then likely you'll need to play for death gate

[slim cedar]

ok thank you

[rigid shadow]

somebody??

[near vortex]

For weapons, Bubonico is thematically fitting and Zymos plus Tether if you don't subsume over 3 is goofy too

[fair silo]

Okay okay cause my vision was playing around larva and using a electric gas weapon to just shred

[rigid shadow]

ty

[charred gale]

np

[fair silo]

Whats a good helmith ability for that actually im guessing some sort of armor strip but are they’re really any solid options

[abstract cargo]

do you guys have Loyal Merulina build for Yareli?

I wanna try it out I get headaches when i use Merulina anywhere that isn't open world

[mighty flare]

Terrify or Pillage

[fair silo]

🫡Preciate you homie

[mighty flare]

Terrify is easier full strip while pillage has more utility

[indigo bronze]

Hey! What’s better for an enervate kompressa?

[fair silo]

Would it be better to subsume over the 3? I could mod for status cleanse and damage reduction with like adaptation and rolling guard

[grave cloak]

tharros strike/pillage

I personally don't like pillage tbh, you need 400% strength checkpoint for full strip which either means you troll your build or you use a helminth invigoration

whereas tharros strike full strips at 200% which is so much easier

[shut saffron]

You can just cast twice

[grave cloak]

I could, or I could also just cast once with tharros strike

[fair silo]

https://tenor.com/view/sasuke-thinking-anime-naruto-gif-13593873

I understand

[mighty flare]

Terrify has smaller threshold and you can always tap pillage twice

[mighty flare]

Subsume over what exactly? Which frame

[fair silo]

Nidus

[tame shell]

Just got Xaku prime a few days I ago and I wanna try doing a weapons platform build on her, would nourish be a better subsume than shock with a shock trooper augment?

[mighty flare]

Sure over 3 works

[slate solstice]

build phantasma plss

[vapid mist]

thoughts

[gloomy elm]

Riven is cc and cd

Sorry for late reply

[timid sky]

does anyone have a build for the kuva zarr? specifically for on call use

[undone dust]

over his 3? that's definitely an odd option

especially when his 3 is a damage redirection (that includes status immunity), strength multiplier, and a multiplicative weapon damage buff

sadly it doesnt double dip like roar does but iirc it applies similarly to eclipse

[abstract girder]

Is this a good Opticor (Vandal) Riven?

[ember pike]

Yes

[latent silo]

where to find build to frame (good ones)

[midnight horizon]

Overframe.gg

Find builds made by trusted players like ninjase

[maiden geode]

What I'm trying to say is that you don't need more damage with the madurai 1, it gives you a 1000% multiplier that applies to both your amp and guns. Thats more than enough even without anything stripped at all.

[maiden geode]

is neat, the negative sucks however, if you're never going to use it against grineer sure.

[abstract girder]

clearly I put on smite grineer and get back to neutral lmao

[mellow nest]

164% if you run Corrosive Projection

[small pulsar]

which one do I pick 👀

[hexed sundial]

zenistar

[small pulsar]

bet

[crimson osprey]

Hey guys, so i dont like shieldgating as a whole, and loathe relying on shields as any foirm of defense too.. is there some generic health/armor tanking builds or something that works differently than shields for survival ? namely my equinox.

i love equinox and id love to take the frame into more things, but its to frail

my build is a mix of duality and mend/main augments, and it does great, survival just feels a little flimsy

[elder crow]

Hi, between xata's whisper, eclipse (only damage buff not the DR) and roar (and because of it no faction mod on the glaive), for glaive builds like pathocyst or any others, does someone knows if there is any notable differences ?

[crimson osprey]

rest/rage, pacifty provoke i never use, so maybe an ability could help ? idk

pillage? idk how to really get more life out of equinox. i like my build, but i need to tweak it

[severe bough]

Pillage is basically a shield gate but u just use the ability not passiv/active gating

[crimson osprey]

ok pillage is out

im use to tankier frames, and when im focused on or sometihng o go doqn pretty quick., maybe rolling guard is all i need to add instead of that regen shield mod

duality and energy transfer are what i use and jsut let maim grow then nuke eventually, with a decoy as needed.

so range is right, duration isnt bad, ability str 70%

i could cut back on range, cause if im dead no range matters for maim, but im not too sure what id replace it with.. maybe vitality? an armor mod?

I just use her as a weapons platform, occasionally a decoy and keep maim/mend going as i switch for the decoy.

[severe bough]

If always played equ with his 4 in day form and shield gate due to constant re-Casting i never had had issues with staying alive. on really high lvls tho shield gate is the only Option i dunno what exactly your running but mabye just sending your build in helps

[crimson osprey]

molt efficiency and arcane blessing

i did have fast deflection over rolling guard. i hadnt tried her with rolling guard yet. dirigia sentinel with shield mods

shield charger/gaurdian

Shoot lemme show you stats to the left hold on

@severe bough posted

[velvet pulsar]

vip posted

[crimson osprey]

well, lmk

[charred kraken]

hey which one should i choose ?

[storm sable]

How good would torid be with oraxia?

[quiet laurel]

not good cause her 4 toxin buff doesnt work on incarnon charges

[crimson osprey]

might give equinox decoy

[high elbow]

Gang
Is increasing the damage of the weapon arc coil uses worth it?
Or does its weapon only act as a stat stick

[drifting hare]

Hey so I am using the ninjask gauss build but

It feels incomplete

[quiet laurel]

did you read the description of the build or did you just copy

[drifting hare]

I did read and copy the build

[quiet laurel]

can you send the overframe link

[drifting hare]

https://overframe.gg/build/591347/gauss-prime/electromagnetic-accelerator-general-use-sp-gauss-hybrid-weapon-platform-sunder-nuke/

[quiet laurel]

its a very general build without a focus on anything in particular, its 0 forma and uses very basic mods, so yeah its not gonna result in huge dmg

[drifting hare]

I see, so if I want something good I have to use one of the other 2 builds

If I am being honest idk what to use gauss for

[quiet laurel]

he has 2 main builds, nuke and weapons platform

[drifting hare]

Weapons platform?

[quiet laurel]

weapons platform has further variations depending on what you use

[quiet laurel]

weapons buffer whatever you wanna call it

[drifting hare]

Ohhh

Alr

Hmm

Currently I am maining tanks but I wanna try something new with gauss, what do you suggest I do?

[quiet laurel]

I mean you can be unkillable with him as long as you take shield dmg

which is achieved via fast deflection and arcane aegis

those 2 things are basically an auto slot for gauss builds nowadays

[drifting hare]

I see

Alr thanks, also Amma try the nuke build, i wanna run faster than some parents when asked to be good parents

[storm sable]

Is there any good weapon synergys with oraxia besides kuba sovek?

[severe bough]

https://overframe.gg/build/390077/excalibur/the-thunderous-blade-excalibur-slash-dash-exalted-blade-influence-nuke-updated-2025

What does the heavy build do different than the light build? Because now that slash dash is affect from the modding from exalted blade shouldnt be there a dmg difference between those builds ?

[storm sable]

How good is oraxia summoner build compared to a gun platform build?

[severe bough]

Sorry im back again, which form your playing again and was the Intention of the build?

[deep grotto]

Pretty good i think
I remember there being a video somewhere that shows how you can make the scuttlers really busted

[fervent rapids]

Statistically weaker, but imo. more funny

Max rank Camisado makes the Scuttlers just zoom around

[deep grotto]

I think subsuming Terrify onto her also helps, no?

[severe bough]

Its weaker but funny

[quiet laurel]

summoner builds in general are eh

AI is stoopid

and scuttlers only having health doesnt help

[fervent rapids]

Maybe yeah, the webs could help prevent enemies from running too far away

[quiet laurel]

iirc the scuttlers dont have health gating

[shut saffron]

Scuttlers also don't scale

5 minutes into a mission they insta die

[quiet laurel]

just go all in on weapons platform

[fervent rapids]

so yeah

[shut saffron]

Even then she's Giga cope

2 doesn't work on og and 4 doesn't buff incarnons or properly proc on acid shells

[quiet laurel]

oraxia is just haha funny insta wall latch

[shut saffron]

Also no roar

Temu saryn

[quiet laurel]

another dmg platformer that failed to saryn

the moment saryn gets her toxic lash coded as cyte/oraxia buff its so joever

[shut saffron]

Cyte is good though

[undone dust]

her only somewhat redeeming quality is the invis from her passive

[quiet laurel]

yeah cyte is my goat, he makes bramma good again

[shut saffron]

Oraxia is just a straight up weaker version of cyte

Inf pt and ammo goat

[quiet laurel]

cyte one of the few frames that make most base SP dps primaries viable for lvl cap and he goated for that

[crimson osprey]

Weapons platform. Day form? Slash procs on maim. Occasionally duality.

I usually run bassocyst, cycron and I like getting into melee too.

I turn 4 on, let it rack up. Dis duality for added firepower, thej back to day form for the slash procs, running around shooting and meleeing

[quiet laurel]

switching form on equinox do be a rare sight

[shut saffron]

You can play nightform for the shield on kill and augment swap to nuke

[quiet laurel]

so basically more input for the same result as pillage

[shut saffron]

Nah you just swap whenever you want the nuke

The shield on kill one is super comfy

[quiet laurel]

what does the casting time on the swap look like

I mean not that it is super important cause you run casting speed anyway but I legit never used the ability

[shut saffron]

It's not the worst out there

[quiet laurel]

but its not instant?

they should make it instant fr fr

[versed patrol]

How can I make this better

[severe bough]

Why we use influ on a heavy spam exalted blade? Also what is the direct difference between light and heavy when using slash dash i mean isnt the only difference that if we use the blade itself ( not slash dash ) that i just use heavy spam or E spam

[severe bough]

Riven stats?

[versed patrol]

+88.1 Puncture +62.5 cd +127.9 dmg

[severe bough]

Mhm

[wanton widget]

I have never heard of or seen this ever happen. It literally stays with you over your shoulder.

[wanton widget]

That is true.

I’ll revisit my Huras Kubrow.

[coral crest]

And it works for allies as well

[crimson osprey]

2 yellow shards do nicely..can probably get away with 1

[storm sable]

How good is koumei?

[quiet laurel]

really good if you are good at gambling

half of her decrees are useless but some are game changing

[mighty flare]

Redirection means squat in “high level” content if ur not full committing to that type of build. It’s like gyre getting redirection

[storm sable]

And if im not?

[quiet laurel]

then you get decrees that are built around finishers

still no idea why she has so many god damn finisher decrees

was it an attempt of DE to make finishers viable or smth

[mighty flare]

They just copy pasted Duviri decrees, which were made to also work for drifter combat which does have a lot of finishers

They just forgot to give koumei an innate way to open finishers

[storm sable]

Would a koumei thread nuking build be good? Or what build options does she has?

[mighty flare]

Needs mecha set for that, besides that it’s just variations of weapon platforming

Sickening pulse spamming sorta “works” but need viral

[storm sable]

So then with mecha set its good?

[velvet pulsar]

It's a hidden weapon dmg class ability BTW

[modern isle]

What crits can stahlta scale with

[crimson osprey]

so equinox

maybe decoy

[ornate cosmos]

just got nezha and prime
how do i build the boy?

did this, since he's still unranked

[grave cloak]

subsume dark verse/thermal sunder/pyrotechnics over his 1, get the augment for his 4, and build max range

[restive swan]

You know this could be a way to make her 1st more useful then just as a worse version of her 4

[grave cloak]

Koumei more like koumid tbh

[ornate cosmos]

hmmm
where have i seen this before

[grave cloak]

We don't know what you've seen before so

[near vortex]

Take away a unique movement option
You get: one tau red worth of strength

[grave cloak]

As a disruption enjoyer I'd kill to have nezha's passive on all my frames just so that I can move around the room to kill demolishers faster tbh

Disabling the ability is just plain sus

[mighty flare]

Uhhhh sorta, sure

[ornate cosmos]

warrior's rest

[grave cloak]

Excal umbra's passive is a bug that DE refuse to fix to be fair

Although calling it a bug is a bit of a stretch, more like a feature at this point

Nezha's passive has no reason to be turned off otoh

[ornate cosmos]

huh
thought umbra following you around was meant to be
problem being it disabling your channeled abilities and taking damage in your stead

[ornate cosmos]

?

[grave cloak]

How are you gonna proc arcane avenger

[ornate cosmos]

by taking damage

[grave cloak]

With your 265 armor?

[ornate cosmos]

yeah?

what else should i put there then?
impetus?

though now my strength is low
i could use it

[grave cloak]

Augmented/aegis both work fine

[ornate cosmos]

ill do molt aug

[slender vine]

Hello folks, for a Harmony build (for Koumei specifically)

Is it better to use Galavanized mods or Sacrificial?

[gray iris]

sacrificial if you’re stacking both as the cc increase is good. if not then normal galvanized cc mod would work as it also gives cd

[severe bough]

Galv steel is a tiny bit better when you got no external cd through purple shards etc

[slender vine]

Planing to use it on Koumei

[sleek vessel]

can someone who uses the ferlarx send me a build?

[high yoke]

What stats should I go for for a grimoire riv

[novel bear]

Harmony is heavy attack so you’re probably using amalgam organ shatter, in which case sac steel

[fathom token]

I've never actually had a crit multiplier this high before

[hybrid marsh]

Oberon got buffed, but is he fun

[ornate cosmos]

pls do cascadia overcharge + pillage

[high elbow]

Question gang
Does life steal heal shields if youre at max health?

[ornate cosmos]

no i dont think so

[high elbow]

Ooof

[fresh surge]

very much so

[ornate cosmos]

i think rime rounds would fit this build gloriously

found out that, during inc, braton procs the modded element plus it combined with fire
so having cold damage would proc blast cold

alternatives being just fire, gas toxin and elec rad

im dealing tox and i dont know how

[wanton widget]

So I made a smol adjustment to my build for Garuda... I swapped out Blind Rage for Transient Fortitude, Dropped Rolling guard for Catalizing Shields and Swapped to a Huras Kubrow. Significant survivability increase. Nourish gives enough energy to allow Bloodletting to fully replenish my energy, and Reconstruct can replenish my health. I got more familiar with Dread Mirror and now I am room clearing with ease. Also running an influence build on her talons which seems to help with the crowd control as well. Running primary and secondary Dexterity on archgun for more melee damage.

[severe bough]

U can swap aura for smth else

OR take augur reach out for rolling guard which i would probably do but thats up to you

[gray iris]

taking out augur means no shield gate unless they run augur on secondary or sentient weapons

so catalyzing shields would be a dead mod in the build if so

[severe bough]

Cata + brespite/augur mod

[gray iris]

didn’t see the “or” in ur msg mb lol

thought you recommended both in one

[severe bough]

Np i hope that the just never fix cata glitch

[gray iris]

neither, building for full shield gate sucks

[severe bough]

I mean they didnt care for the full duration the mod been out now ig? Or how long we got the glitch

[quiet laurel]

ever since shield gating is an official mechanic

[severe bough]

Lmao

[quiet laurel]

so around whispers

[severe bough]

Dang it almost 2 years

[radiant cargo]

hey im looking for some help increasing my Gyer's survivability in steel path as shield gating by its self isn't working any tips?

[mighty flare]

Add arcane aegis over energize and/or fast deflection + vigilante vigor for full lazy gating

[radiant cargo]

ok so would it be better to repace the auger mods with fast deflection + vigilante vigor cause i dont have aegis

[mighty flare]

Oh you don’t even have catalyzing slotted actually

try that first, using catalyzing shields

[radiant cargo]

oh i tried useing that a bit in the past and it didnt work to well but i didnt have more than one auger so that might work now, ill try it the next time im on

[severe bough]

Dokrahm was still the best zaw if it comes to cont without a riv ? But what to take as grip and link

[mighty flare]

Seekalla with Vargeet II Jai for regular crit build

[severe bough]

Ty

[distant knoll]

what should i change?

[near vortex]

Looks solid for the point in the game you are

[wind cosmos]

maybe swap viral for corrosive since you won't get any value from viral unless you are reliably applying a few stacks on the enemy, but for bows/one shot weapons like the nataruk you'd want to mod for specific faction weaknesses

[pallid elm]

Does anyone have a good build for garuda?

[small pulsar]

Does anyone have a voidrig build

[mighty pelican]

since they got so many slots, you can pretty much slap any necramech mod onto them, but id reserve melee mods for bonewidow since she got a blade to capitalize on that more

[shell tundra]

How good is the Atomos Incarnon?

[mighty flare]

after this you can add whatever you want like more range/duration, more engine efficiency, or whatever you want

[gloomy kettle]

who wnats the build?

[grave cloak]

Very good.

[upbeat eagle]

what melee to play with koumei ?

[grave cloak]

any that you like

[hasty rose]

So what's a good Beginner Braton Prime build?

[placid plinth]

Anyone got a ocucor build??

[austere oar]

Fang Prime heavy attacks nah?

[deep grotto]

That’s so many slots what the hell

[deep grotto]

Using her signature is pretty neat also

[plain salmon]

any good glaxion builds for a semi progressed player

[midnight horizon]

Y'all think acid shells would work with xata's just as well as with toxic lash?

[coral crest]

If you got some other extra buff to synergize, then maybe

[midnight horizon]

Well not really I don't

It's gonna be on xaku and I'm using omamori

[coral crest]

I mean it can work, absolutely no questions. Its the same type of buff

But it won't be as crazy as other sobek users

[deep grotto]

It depends on which one you have really

[charred gale]

Does xatas do a second instance od damage?

[midnight horizon]

Yeah

Same thing as what toxic lash, resupply, and oraxia's 4 do

It gets double dipped by roar too but that's about it really

[charred gale]

Why do i never see xaku sobek

[midnight horizon]

Because xaku isn't really a weapon platform is he

[charred gale]

I mean hes got a dmg buffing ability

He can work as one

[midnight horizon]

Thus my idea for using sobek

[blissful knoll]

hold up

you can mind control vor????

[midnight horizon]

Im trying hard to make em a wep platform cuz I notoriously don't like their floating guns

[blissful knoll]

this is so weird

[midnight horizon]

It's very awkward at certain levels. On star chart levels it basically oneshots anything. On base sp it actually takes longer to kill enemies than it does to kill actual levelcap just cuz the level scaling isn't high enough yet and base sp enemies already have capped armor

Meanwhile I play only on base sp now

Why why why does xatas NOT affect floating guns is beyond me

My only option now is to turn em to a platform or use a primer for the floating guns which I still haven't found a good weapon for

[mighty flare]

you do want backup weapon on xaku, but you can pick better guns than sobek like boar, cedo, miter, etc
good primer weapons for xaku is the eptitaph

[midnight horizon]

Yeah I been using epi for a long while

It just can't armor strip is all

(I sub over their 3 too)

[mighty flare]

for what

[midnight horizon]

Omamori

[mighty flare]

use pillage

[midnight horizon]

I like not getting hit at all

Im done using spammy abilities ngl

Ive had 400 days of it

[blissful knoll]

use latron

[midnight horizon]

Hmmmmmmmmm

[blissful knoll]

xata latron has good synergy

[midnight horizon]

That'd just kill the enemies with the latron not the uhh the floaties

Should I just completely ignore the floaties

[mighty flare]

lohk?

[midnight horizon]

Yeh

[blissful knoll]

if you're building for grasp of lohk then you have no choice but use armor strip

[mighty flare]

if ur tryning to make xaku a daily driver, theres better frames to use

[midnight horizon]

I don't want em to just be a box breaker mannn 😩

[blissful knoll]

i mean this isn't particularly spammy

[mighty flare]

you dont have armor strip, which besides viral is what you use to make lohk work easier

[blissful knoll]

even running madurai for str isn't exactly making it super spammy

[midnight horizon]

Idk man I might just go ocucor it

Forget trying so hard

[latent adder]

Omamori is very comfy tho

[midnight horizon]

Exactlyyyyyyyyy

[latent adder]

Use 2 for trash and angstrum for single

[midnight horizon]

I WANT to use omamori on xaku but that limits my options so much

[latent adder]

Ez

[mighty flare]

its not like xaku itsnt alr comfy

[blissful knoll]

vicious bond is an option for strip

[latent adder]

Even more comfy

[blissful knoll]

it's not particularly fast tho

or grimoire

[mighty flare]

wer're reaching couch potato levels of comfy here

[latent adder]

Use grimoire with jahu

[midnight horizon]

I think I just need a good primer that can do both viral and armor strip (corrosive) if I wanna run pure lohk dps

[latent adder]

2 fosfors is 400m strip lol

[midnight horizon]

Whats that do

[latent adder]

Kompressa

Bubonico

[blissful knoll]

but yea grimoire is there

[midnight horizon]

I'll figure something out. Thanks yall

[wind cosmos]

kompressa my beloved

[velvet pulsar]

Ever had the satisfaction of shooting Bubonico alt fire directly upwards?

An actual mortar rain

[midnight horizon]

Okay fine I'll use that for my primer

That thang should be able to prime both corro and viral right

And mag too while I'm at it ig

I'm still upset that I can't use firestorm on it 😩

[blissful knoll]

huh i'm catching up to the newer reworks and oberon feels so weird

smite feels like it sometimes oneshots and sometimes doesnt

[misty nymph]

Is the burston prime a good steel path weapon?

[blissful knoll]

Exceptional

[misty nymph]

So its decent

[blissful knoll]

It's extremely good

[misty nymph]

Oh can i show u a build in this chat?

[blissful knoll]

Go ahead

[storm sable]

Whats the most important thing in a koumei thread nuke build? Ability duration or ability strenght or ability range or ability efficiency? And which is the least important?

[fluid nest]

@latent adder sorry for the ping but is there a replacement for the bane mod in your praedos build?

[woeful laurel]

this is good for early

i have a steel path build but i don't think it is good

This is my build, I am open to feedbacks:

[latent adder]

Voltaic strike or attack speed

[fluid nest]

okay thanks sorry for the ping

[latent adder]

Np

[charred willow]

guys, this or this

[blissful knoll]

i don't see much of an issue with the build

seems perfectly fine

[drifting vault]

i personally would go with Visi-zetican, but thats because my brain goes " |:0 -> |:) " at big numbers, especially if you have the incarnon

[grave cloak]

Right is more usable, problem with the left is that -rec isn't so good due to the toxo's innate trait/incarnon evo 3/deadhead existing. Right is at least slottable over primed convulsion

[charred willow]

i ended up going with the -puncture

but weirdly, for some reason, my other riven was doing more damage

lemme pull up the build

[slender vine]

Folks, why Sacrificial Pressure gives higher numbers than Condition Overload despite Koumei and companion priming?

[fervent rapids]

crit mods give double boost to heavy attacks, as they say

could be that

[slender vine]

Oh my bad, I meant the 2nd Sacrificial mod that gives damage, I mixed up names

[slender vine]

Sac Pressure, I mixed up the names

[south laurel]

Am trying to run an electric melee influence build for Excal Umbra. Need some advice on what I should add to this empty spot or work on

[fervent rapids]

Don't use Pressure point and CO together, both are additive base damage boosts

So they don't benefit from eachother

[south laurel]

Oh that's kinda lame

So I should just keep PPP and get rid of CO?

Get a constant 135%+ dmg instead of 80%

And I guess since Im not running a mixed element build CO isnt super helpful anyway

[fervent rapids]

Think so, yeah

[south laurel]

Wonder what I should use these slots on lol

Can put Gal Steel into a forma slot now too so extra slots yay

Is attack speed good at all? Or does Exalted Blade have a speed cap?

[fervent rapids]

attack speed works on it

[south laurel]

Okay I added some mods for heavy and normal attack speed

Maybe I can squeze out some extra DPS but just hitting faster lol

[latent silo]

Is this good to use?

[bold cove]

For multi gun co which buff ability is the best?

[grave cloak]

not really, combo duration is a dead stat for slam weapons since your combo will primarily come from galv reflex and external sources like ready steel. so you really only have 2 positives there. I'd reroll.

[grave cloak]

warframe ability buff you mean? I'd go with roar

allied vex armor buff could be useful but that requires an allied chroma

[bold cove]

Thx

[old marsh]

U want crit dmg, initial combo, toxin & maybe crit chance

Anything else can be negative coz it’s a slam weapon. Except impact

[vast mural]

Subsume Kullervo for Excalibur (for lore), or keep and farm for another later?

[severe bough]

Anything i could change?

[desert maple]

Hey guys, Idk why that status when I pressed P is diff from in progress

[wicked nexus]

Any build for diriga and what weapon for it

[analog stirrup]

Full status screen (p) shows bonus affinity gained at the end of round, the one on the right only shows current stats.

[granite ginkgo]

you want to get bond mod via pet npc in each overworld (cetus, fortuna and necralisk)

i recommend u seek ninjase build in overframe website

[desert maple]

It mean if I finish round and go to my ship, i will give all lv30 weapon instead of lv25 right?

[analog stirrup]

Yes

[gusty swift]

Does anyone have a harrow prime build

[mystic hatch]

Got to love warframe builds because it's literally always putting multishot on something

Even pets get multiplied

[old marsh]

Subsume and wait for Prime. He is not that far away. Like 7-10 months.

[severe bough]

Why we use gas tox on coda mira slam build instead of coro tox? Just because the synergy is very good ?

[severe bough]

https://overframe.gg/build/258768/harrow-prime/the-holy-ghost-infinite-invisibility-and-red-crit-evade-harrow/
evade harrow is really nice

[gusty swift]

ty

[coral crest]

aoe from gas

[sterile tiger]

Who're some good frames to inject Nourish into

[jovial hatch]

anyone got a good frame/weapon build to take out that damn Apex Tank?

solo i mean

[versed harbor]

basically all of them 💀 unfortunately

[severe bough]

Ik but im just curious why gas exactly. As far as i know affliticons just make the gas clouds wider and lasting sting also makes them last longer sampo is the only hammer ik the also uses afflitions which is only played with toxin

[severe bough]

Were you feel like u need it ig ( basically fits on every frame )

[severe bough]

Phenmor should probably work

[sterile tiger]

Valkyr a good first pick?

[severe bough]

That or roar

[sterile tiger]

I have both subsumed, but I don't really have a Valkyr build in mind so

[jovial hatch]

then what incarnon modes should i use? cause i have the Latron prime incarnon with the puncture armor strip, and a Dante with 174 duration, 145 efficiency, 145 range, and 179 strenght, and thats with shards, i also have R4 Molt Augmented and R3 Arcane Energize.

[severe bough]

Depends u can use her as weapon platform or for her 4

[severe bough]

U mean incarnon perks?

[jovial hatch]

yes

if u recomend the Phenmor over the Latron, what perks should i use

[sterile tiger]

I mean... Hysteria build seems like the way to go, no? Other frames can be weapon platforms

[severe bough]

Sure, but valkyr is also very good as plat hysteria build is also fun

[severe bough]

Let me look up the perks

[sterile tiger]

I'll take either build, just want to use Valkyr

[severe bough]

Try that
https://overframe.gg/build/240225/valkyr-prime/rip-and-tear-valkyr-general-use-hysteria-dps-grouping/

[velvet pulsar]

I just tried Prisma Lenz...
It's so damn interesting! Do people still build it for Internal Bleeding mod? Or has the build changed?

[versed harbor]

nah just raw dmg crit boom

[fresh spruce]

how can i make chroma a support or a ability merchant for ETA ?

[grave cloak]

You'll need:

• latron incarnon
• laetum
• sampotes with melee afflictions

I can send you my build for all 3 if you want, for frames you just put vigilante vigor + fast deflecion + primed sure footed + catalyzing shields + rolling guard + adaptation with arcane aegis and arcane nullifier

Not specific to apex, but when I did janus vor with hildryn I swapped catalyzing shields with primed redirection, that's the only change I've made so far

[jovial hatch]

shall i share what i have?

[grave cloak]

Sure ig? But the 3 I listed are universal. Sampotes is good for 60 eyes, laetum is good for janus vor

[jovial hatch]

60 eyes?

[grave cloak]

Haven't actually tried the superbosses after the damage attenuation rework but I don't imagine it's too different from previously

[grave cloak]

Yep

[jovial hatch]

OH wait, is that the murmur Super boss?!

ah, i see

[mellow nest]

Doesnt seem to go down any more quickly / slowly than before

[jovial hatch]

well i dont have the Sampotes built yet, but i do have a Coda motovor with a 38.3 Radiation valence

[grave cloak]

Idk about any other weapons but what makes the sampotes special is the slam waves

[jovial hatch]

this BURNS SP runs with Kullarvo

at least for me

[grave cloak]

So normally when you slam an enemy with sampotes they get sent flying to the air, with melee afflictions you get more procs and the good stuff

But because the apex tank has status caps, what actually happens when you slam with the sampotes is that all the heat stacks will detonate at once

Something like dante casting tragedy but turned up to the 9th

[jovial hatch]

noted, also i just checked

i dont have Melee Afflictions

[grave cloak]

So what can happen is that the health bar of the apex tank just disappears during the first phase before it gets infested with techrot

Let me see if I can find a video demonstrating it

The non crit laetum is used for second phase since the techrot weakspots take object damage(which cannot be crit), which means non crit laetum eats well
Also the techrot musciple or whatever it's called also takes object damage and cannot be crit

[jovial hatch]

noted

so for the Latron and the Laetum, what incarnon perks should i use for that DAMN TANK!

[grave cloak]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/iktcCQ9B0h

[grave cloak]

There you go @jovial hatch

[jovial hatch]

wut da fak! that was fast

[grave cloak]

Latron - the most important thing is you take the armor removal perk
Laetum - take the non crit perks at evo 4 and evo 5

Yes it's fast and all of the interactions are intended

That's why you need melee afflictions

[jovial hatch]

TnT im gonna have to grind so many Acolites

wait

[grave cloak]

Huh? It is farmed from ascension

[jovial hatch]

WAIT REALY!!!

FAK THATS EVEN WORSE !!!

[kind glacier]

What’s a good build for the Kompressa

[tidal quail]

guys help (dont ask why the reroll count is like this)

[kind glacier]

I don’t know rivens that much, but I’d say it’s good

[tidal quail]

they both are good

the problem is that i dont know is 200% damage is better than 200 crit rate

[grave cloak]

I'd go right but reroll
also wdym the reroll count? 184? that's on the low end for something like torid lol

[novel bear]

Right

[tidal quail]

last time someone said rerolling 120 times on torid is insane

(i bought it at 100)

[novel bear]

Damage is way easier to get than primary crit chance

[grave cloak]

my torid riven has 400 rolls

it's not insane at all.

[tidal quail]

god damn

[quiet laurel]

my bramma has close to 1000

[grave cloak]

tbh if you're rolling to sell you either need a groll or a legacy roll riven

else I wouldn't really bother as the market is just saturated

[tidal quail]

nah its for me

i bought the cheapest torid riven and now im looking for the perfect roll

[grave cloak]

oh then ignore w/e I said about the groll and legacy rolls

[tidal quail]

ill get the crit rate then

dmg can be boosted by other stuff if i need it

[versed harbor]

tbh id be picking left simply because negative reload speed is annoying

and left is still slottable cuz torid riven dispo is good

[grave cloak]

doesn't really matter in this case tbh, both aren't really poggers and just demand a reroll
and if you're gonna reroll anyway, why bother wasting time pondering which one you gonna take 🤷‍♀️

[inland vale]

so like. how do i build phage?? all the builds on overframe are kinda outdated — a year or so ago...

[fervent rapids]

IIRC. Phage was the go-to Eidolon weapon long ago, but since then I have pretty much never seen someone use it

[deep grotto]

How long ago, you think?
A friend of mine suggested it to me lmao

[carmine dew]

phage has some niche priming applications cus it does innate viral

so you can mod it for corro+cold and it'll do those along with viral

[coral crest]

Its still very good

One of my favs

Funny and actually strong with heat

[carmine dew]

lol idk about that

you could probably make something work with viral elec elementalist

but this thing is several tiers down the pecking order and its a primary on top of that

[coral crest]

Pretty sure people still often run it in cascade with great success

[carmine dew]

they do not 😭

its sometimes used for that viral corro priming i just talked about bc thats useful for thraxes

but for damage dealing, nah

[inland vale]

....the only reason i wanna build it is bc i messed up & put an unairu lens on it.

[carmine dew]

well its a high status weapon so viral elec is what i would go with

looks like ninjase had the same idea even

[inland vale]

it feels like its dealing minimalistic damage even w that build 😭😭

[carmine dew]

thats just how it is 🥀

you can try cyte or volt or something to increase cope but yeah

[fervent rapids]

yeah, that's why it's not really widely used anymore

And why even back then it was only used for specific things

[inland vale]

i gotta get a new beam weapon bc i cant aim at all (critpressa prime is spoiling me tbh...)

[fervent rapids]

Ocucor if you have its Augment is the beam to end all beamers pretty much

Which is funny because without the augment it's borderline unusable

[carmine dew]

ocucor, t. glaxion, k. nukor, t. cycron, and torid (lol) are the top dogs more or less

[grave cloak]

lizzie is best beam weapon

those who know

[acoustic bluff]

no

[inland vale]

i do!! but im enjoying critompressa prime too much rn,, i just want a primary like it thats isnt torid incarn.

[velvet pulsar]

Isn't coda catabolyst a beam weapon?

[velvet pulsar]

Tenet Glaxion or boar incarnon

[inland vale]

dont have tenet glax so boar incarn it is...

[velvet pulsar]

Or if not limited to beams, then Bubonico

[inland vale]

also please tell me that at least zhuge (regular, not prime) is usable.

[astral tinsel]

it is

[velvet pulsar]

And Bubonico is available from dojo

[astral tinsel]

doesn't it require like 7 mutagen masses to craft?

[deep grotto]

Zhuge is a funny name

[velvet pulsar]

IDK
The person crafted phage

[astral tinsel]

10 lol

[deep grotto]

I wonder how many people renamed it to “Huge”

[inland vale]

zhūgé is a chinese military strategist's name!

[deep grotto]

Ohh

Yeah that makes a lot more sense

[velvet pulsar]

Bubonico certainly is easier to get than Tenet Glaxion or Boar incarnon

[deep grotto]

I’m still renaming mine to “Huge” or “Huge Prime” if i ever get one

[velvet pulsar]

Oh wait

Vermisplicer primary

[astral tinsel]

vermi primary is pretty good

[velvet pulsar]

Sure it'll be a variety farm but it's not horrible

[inland vale]

vermi-what now?

[velvet pulsar]

Kitgun

[astral tinsel]

it was just a better amprex when it came out

[deep grotto]

I have two rivens for this thing

[velvet pulsar]

you'll get your shine one day, amprex

[astral tinsel]

it did

[velvet pulsar]

Don't speak of 2 rivens

I'm being trolled by the game for unlocking archgun rivens

[astral tinsel]

it was such an instant hit that it got a big ammo efficiency nerf within weeks of release

[undone dust]

i wish tenet flux was a beam

[astral tinsel]

yeah

[velvet pulsar]

Twice P DD and twice Grattler rivens

Both times the OG was better

[deep grotto]

How much we betting that it would have gotten powercrept by all the new weapons even if they left it?

[velvet pulsar]

I'm willing to try any primary which was hit with ammo efficiency nerf

...and has fire rate

[astral tinsel]

it got sort of unnerfed since

[velvet pulsar]

By this slash weapon I remembered...
Convectrix

Also, efficient beams

[quiet laurel]

hank do not abbreviate prisma dual deciron

[velvet pulsar]

I will

[deep grotto]

😭

[velvet pulsar]

It's one of the most hilarious things I discovered

Specially when Steve is being accused of calling NauBaro for that name...

[velvet pulsar]

Also guess what
Prisma Dual Decurions
Kuva Grattler

= KG P DD

Anyways today I got my hands on Telos Boltace

Time to build afflictions with that gimmick

Plus 20% parkour velocity is a great bonus

Also Dual Raza is a ridiculous MR fodder for a ton of crafting requirement.

Even Ruvox doesn't take this much time to craft, and it's an incarnon.

[severe bough]

Suggestion on lvl cap casc runs need some Inspiration which frame weapons etc

[velvet pulsar]

Nekros

But only if no viral priming against thrax

Smite Nekros with whatever hard hitting weapon u want

Do not subsume over Soul Punch

[undone dust]

nekros my beloved

what is this soul punch smite method i have been hearing about

[velvet pulsar]

Cast Smite Smite Soul Punch on a thrax to skip its spectral form

[undone dust]

holy moly

[velvet pulsar]

Remember, no viral priming

U don't wanna one-shot thrax with smite

[severe bough]

Sounds interesting but smite is still in helminth forgot to subsume oberon

[velvet pulsar]

Not even friendly roar

[severe bough]

Standard shield gating setup probably but what to focus on str range etc?

[velvet pulsar]

I think str.
It's gonna end up with 50% smite so you'll need 2 smite casts to drop thrax to 25% HP, after which soul punch will one-shot it

There is a vid on YT about Smite Nekros

Lvl cap cascade

U probably don't want duration

U don't need high range too I think

[severe bough]

Sounds kinda funny ngl. Ngl also wanna test out passiv gating more but i dont now how that ends up because im so used to active gating

[velvet pulsar]

Hope ur companion doesn't mess things up

[severe bough]

In which way u mean that?

[velvet pulsar]

From viral priming to accidentally kill thrax before soul punch

[mighty flare]

just 1 viral is fine

[velvet pulsar]

No risks

[mighty flare]

not really a risk

[velvet pulsar]

Alryt try this if that suits ya

[severe bough]

Also when were rn talking about nekros i still got the silly gloom farm nekros
Anybody got another build ( execpt the one we rn talked about ) or more like a other subsume that fits better

[mighty flare]

no viral: smite (50%) --> smite (25%) --> soul punch
1 viral: smite (75%) --> soul punch

its basically same thing, but saying to avoid viral like the plague is a bit misleading

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah, have a weapon which accurately procs 1 viral

Which means no multishot
No SC above 100%

[mighty flare]

not necessary no

[velvet pulsar]

Dark Verse? But that's low lvl

I probably also had something better in mind but I forgot about it

Aah yes
Banish nekros

[severe bough]

Nourish mabye? I mean ive heared that loot nekros isnt that good anymore but ive tbf have absolut no plan on what else to use nekros execpt looting

[mighty flare]

1-3 viral is fine

[velvet pulsar]

The idea is to use banish augment to keep ur summons alive for the entire banish duration.

They'll still be able to dmg through rift because they're abilities

[severe bough]

Gloom was just a idea from like 1 year ago because i played that augment that doesnt consume energy but health but nowdays energy isnt the real Problem and i hate gloom

[severe bough]

What was banish again?

[velvet pulsar]

Limbo subsume

[severe bough]

Ah that one

[severe bough]

I also someday tried a summoner build but isnt that great as i execpt it to be

[mighty flare]

summoner nekros works best when ur cherry picking a full squad of eximus

[velvet pulsar]

BTW
Nekros 4 has everything:
Damage, healing support, immortality.

[mighty flare]

its also very slow

so deadge ability

[velvet pulsar]

Yes
Peak setup, as per my opinion, requires 2 leech eximus, one guardian eximus, and probably the rest are jade eximus

This means u don't even need shield of shadows augment if you have a guardian eximus with passive shield regen setup and aegis.

Guardian eximus basically adds that remaining % of shield recharge delay reduction and makes u immortal with aegis

There's also Sunder nekros and probably even Well of Life nekros (not really)

[severe bough]

Ive never used shield of shadows augment lmao because i alwalys played with gating but u got a build setup? Like a general nekros mabye i can see whats different to my build and change smth

[velvet pulsar]

I haven't subsumed smite on my nekros because I found another %HP drain based synergy with Garuda.

I use gloom nekros, same as u

Just for looting.

[mighty flare]

if ur doing cascade then smite would be best

[velvet pulsar]

Yep.

[undone dust]

so is desecrate the ability to drop for smite nekros then?

or is terrify

[mighty flare]

ampless cascading is huge

[velvet pulsar]

Terrify

[undone dust]

ah alright

[velvet pulsar]

Smite armor strips targeted enemy

So sort of makeshift terrify

[undone dust]

how big is smite's strip anyway?

[mighty flare]

big?

[velvet pulsar]

It's full strip but single target

[undone dust]

i thought the strip was also aoe

[mighty flare]

no

[velvet pulsar]

Nah that's the catch

[undone dust]

bummer

[severe bough]

Lmao wait let me quickly send the build and mabye anybody finds smth i could change either if its subsume or whatever

[mighty flare]

thats why you need reckoning for smite nuking oberon

[undone dust]

ah i see

[mighty flare]

+shards, roar, viral, str mods....

[velvet pulsar]

Honestly a well built hound can either allow his 4 or 2 to get replaced, more likely 4 because 2 is status immunity. (Oberon)

[undone dust]

well this definitely gives me a reason to use nekros again

[mighty flare]

you will not smite nuke without armor strip

unless ur just sticking to low levels

[velvet pulsar]

10× viral priming?

[mighty flare]

😭

[velvet pulsar]

(oberon)

Not nekros

[mighty flare]

gimme full setup, roar?, n# of shards

[velvet pulsar]

Well, I did subsume roar
And 2 tau shard for radiation affected ability dmg

My hound can easily spread 10× viral

[mighty flare]

im assuming heat strip?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes heat strip

Hound has radiation, magnetic, viral, heat & electric

[mighty flare]

~273 strength minimum

[velvet pulsar]

Probably did reach almost close

Despite max range build

[mighty flare]

versus

[severe bough]

So thats what im rn using

I thought about replacing gloom for nourish roar whatever
Augur reach over despoil
And brespite for summoners wrath mabye?

[mighty flare]

reckoning + roar + 1 viral + 1 shard = 248% str
heat + roar + 10 viral + 2 shards = 273% str

ik which is much more consistent

[velvet pulsar]

Don't use Brief Respite it'll be sheer waste

[velvet pulsar]

2 shards

[severe bough]

Rn in this build or for what ive said?

What i could put together

[velvet pulsar]

You'll use cata shields+ augur mod already right?

Even if just 1 augur mod

[mighty flare]

yes so just use reckoning and not cope for max viral

[velvet pulsar]

And what about his 2nd ability to be compromised?

[severe bough]

Sorry i pronunced it wrong i mean brespite then for summoners wrath

[mighty flare]

what about it

[severe bough]

Or another aura

[velvet pulsar]

U have some sort of logical reason to replace that with roar instead?

Coz I don't wanna get rid of his 3

[severe bough]

Does roar buff the shadows or nekros ?

[mighty flare]

yeah, so ur not coping for 10 viral 😭
just use fortifier brah

[mighty flare]

if ur using summoners wrath then theres better subsumes

[severe bough]

What for example?

[velvet pulsar]

Ahh great so u aren't gonna lecture me for replacing his 2

[mighty flare]

i subsumed over 3 for a bit, but i switched to 2 after some runs

[mighty flare]

nourish, smite

[quiet laurel]

just dont play nekros

[velvet pulsar]

Can't believe a cascade guy is saying this

[quiet laurel]

I farm it for the arcanes, nekros aint doing shit for arcane drops

[velvet pulsar]

I thought u would praise thrax spectral phase skip

[severe bough]

Mhm mabye i make a dedicated looting nekros and then a summoning nekros but idk if its worth to make a "own" build for the shadows

[velvet pulsar]

BTW Koumei decrees buff Kiddo's amp dmg

[quiet laurel]

no shit

[velvet pulsar]

and phahd scaffold can complete decree challenges

[quiet laurel]

phad scaffold can also proc influence

[velvet pulsar]

They're the same reasons

[quiet laurel]

its frame property the moment you switch

[velvet pulsar]

Miscellaneous dmg shenanigans

Reminds me of cold ward and yareli

I wonder how much more buggy can I make merulina if I subsume cold ward on Yareli

It'll even fit thematically

[velvet pulsar]

Does Diriga/Hound + Spare Parts affect arcane drop?

Coz they can spam that on mobs via manifold bond

[quiet laurel]

just SP modifier and mod booster

[severe bough]

Came up with that now might change aura and cami depending if the summons do smth or not

When my smite is there i need to test the smite nekros build out for casc

[velvet pulsar]

I'll still try if Spare Parts affect mod drop for Sabot Rounds in RJ.

[severe bough]

What are you go to's when playing casc?

[quiet laurel]

mirage zaw, volt okina, gauss blast influence with xatas, cyte w zarr or bramma, saryn ocucor

[severe bough]

Cycte makes bramma zarr work again?

[quiet laurel]

yeah, bramma can one shot

[severe bough]

Whats the build for that?
Cycte is probably the standard platformer build with roar/nourish?

[velvet pulsar]

If Bramma can do it, then Lenz isn't far behind!

[quiet laurel]

cyte cant run roar

[severe bough]

Ups

[quiet laurel]

cyte runs nourish

so that you can spam his 2 to your hearts content

then purple shards for elec dmg and go all in on those elec procs

funny thing, bramma manual detonated AoE can trigger headshot conditionals

so bramma fully benefits from cytes headshot based kit

[velvet pulsar]

Unaffected by punch through or messed by it?

[quiet laurel]

unaffected afaik

but you can pre-place your 1 on exo spawns and then detonate above thrax heads

for the extra headshot multiplier

[severe bough]

Sounds crazy need to give it a go, you up to sharing the bramma build?

[quiet laurel]

dont have warframe installed atm

[severe bough]

Lmao

I assume its on a elc dot build ?

[quiet laurel]

ye

[severe bough]

Toxin progi

Probably to make viral elc

[velvet pulsar]

U uninstalled it to create space for Rocket League

[quiet laurel]

uninstalled it cause bf6

[severe bough]

I look what i can make tyty

[quiet laurel]

then heard of recoil issue and havent reinstalled

will wait till old peace

so far old peace also looks pretty eh but we'll see what the tau part has to offer

[velvet pulsar]

U still don't know what rewards the Decendia will give

[severe bough]

I hate the new recoil thing

[quiet laurel]

doesnt matter, weeklies are a necessary evil that shouldnt exist

[velvet pulsar]

Imagine if that turns out to be new incarnons.

[severe bough]

I mean we will get more information on end of november but i just hope that the operator rework isnt the only new thing we get i mean cool new tileset new gamemode but will probably remain the same

[velvet pulsar]

Irony detected!

[severe bough]

When frame incarnons

[quiet laurel]

new gamemode incoming, survival but instead of life support capsules we have npcs that can give us life support

totally new gamemode amirite guys

will surely make room for new tactics and efficient farming

[velvet pulsar]

Any excuse to use Necramech more

Afterall the game is called Voidrig, not Warframe...

[severe bough]

Im just curious about the story

[velvet pulsar]

[mighty flare]

Question have you used Rebuke recently

[severe bough]

Even tho its the same stuff we probably get and nothing new im just waiting to finally grind that out and then go back to play casc only

[velvet pulsar]

Remind me the function

[mighty flare]

Shield break = 20m forced electric status on enemies

[velvet pulsar]

Definitely no