#builds-discussion

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dense knot
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Okay so Heat or Blast for infested

carmine dew
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because those do damage frmo their status

mellow nest
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All depends on your setup. If youre just using like a Primary for everything and dont have a primer or another way to get your status on them or armor strip, then you should always build for the faction, which will still boil down to 1 - 3 builds at max

fathom sky
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Regular Infested are paper and doesnt really matter

fathom sky
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Cambion Drift Infested go Corro Heat because they're immune to Viral anyway

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But of course this assumes your weapon doesn't have a weird element that screws it over from making those combos

sleek grove
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Does vigilante supplies work on kuva ogris? Ammo sustain is non existing on that thing

proud anchor
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It does

sleek grove
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I'll use that then. Where can I get it?

gaunt wasp
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I think bounties on earth. Don’t hold it too me

deep grotto
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Yeah

mellow nest
cinder burrow
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Guys i’m using this setup for sp, some suggestions?

drifting hare
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Anyone got a good Chroma build?

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I need something to help me farm the 1999 techrot caches

sleek grove
brisk jolt
golden flume
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Any Voruna mains that can provide some good insight into strength vs range on her? I'm trying a Roar subsume over 4 right now and have a fairly high strength but wasn't sure if I should instead focus more on range for Prey of Dynar.

gray quarry
mighty flare
wild rune
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I'm at a loss on what exilus to use
Deadhead and incarnon remove recoil, incarnon ignores the need for ammo finders or maximum, zoom is useless... do I just silence it and call it a day? GrineerFear

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riven, it replaces cold mod and it + acuity pretty much negate lethal torrent

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ideally I'd probably have bane in place of crosshairs but I don't feel like throwing this into the "per-mission management" pile, I have enough there ConfusedYareli

foggy patrol
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John zylok

late ore
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What exilus mod should I use for my dex pixia?

daring summit
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left or right?

foggy patrol
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Both bad but right is less bad

daring summit
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what would you roll for? im also keeping in mind the new NW mod for it which stacks CC/CD

foggy patrol
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Right look fine a bit then that fckass +2 punch trough eating % from other two stats

daring summit
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indeed.

foggy patrol
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Is hema even got a good dispo?

daring summit
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idk about base, the coda hema is 2 dot.

foggy patrol
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Should be 0.80x

daring summit
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im thinking the right is good enough for the time being. imma roll the other hema riven i have for a bit

foggy patrol
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Not that high imo

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I'd try to roll for elements instead and make save up some slots by using less to combine elements

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That's only logical usage of low dispo rivens

daring summit
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(other riven) so something a bit more like this?

midnight horizon
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Does mirage's clones also trigger contagion?

foggy patrol
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Maybe you can make that into corro heat and use viral from nourish

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It would save you a mod slot

daring summit
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no, but the load out im working on could subsume a thing still, also, coda hema has base viral. and valence magnetic

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one more valence and i can use a token to choose element freely

lilac breach
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Who can help me make a good build (idk wat I'm doing)

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Boltor, braton, burston, mk1 paris, paris, thornbak or hek

cinder burrow
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Can someone send me a good wukong prime build with is iron staff for sp?

radiant whale
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tenet diplos build ive been working on, have yet to get prime target cracker or max rank all the mods but im happy with it so far. im wondering how i can get more damage out of it, i like using flare and i like most my mod setup except imnot sure about merciless and elementalist, any suggestions?

charred gale
midnight horizon
midnight horizon
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Okay how about volatile quick return explosion, do clones trigger that

midnight horizon
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Ykw that's good enough

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Ima start using glaives on her

charred gale
midnight horizon
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Ooh even better

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I deleted my falcor though 😭

charred gale
gaunt jewel
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What should I do for an extremely early game volt build(mr4)

carmine dew
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just put on whatever you have really

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volt doesnt really need defence mods because of his shield, so you can get a bit greedy with damage mods

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join hexis or red veil for his augments

abstract bison
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nyet rifle is fine without biotic rounds

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or i could just drop serration for biotic rounds when the nightwave comes out again

astral tinsel
storm sable
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How can i open the WM trading permission?

foggy patrol
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Your only option is to change it with faction mods but was it worth it?

midnight horizon
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Faction mods are its own multiplier too

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So you can keep serration then use roar so you get to keep both multipliers

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Chat I need a 2nd opinion to this before I commit to it. Someone said mirage's clones trigger volatile rebound / quick return explosions, just not the glaive heavy explosions themselves, which seems to align with the wiki. But does the wiki also mean the explosions from those mods too?

storm fog
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Best arch gun now?

carmine dew
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k. grattler and arbucep tend to be the favourites

dense knot
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Does anyone know if Sicarus Incarnon form works with GunCO?

astral tinsel
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works in what way

foggy patrol
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For example acceltra does not

dense knot
foggy patrol
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Do you apply anything besides heat?

astral tinsel
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because it ignores the extra damage from evo 2

dense knot
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Ohhhhh

astral tinsel
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same on sicarus

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it'll be 40% weaker on prime, 55% on the normal one

foggy patrol
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Duck

grave cloak
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It doesn't mean you shouldn't use galv shot tbh, just know that it won't be as strong as advertised

woeful venture
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for sevagoth better brief respite or corrosive projection ??

restive swan
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I would lean towards Brief respite for the shields since depending on what augments you're running he can do enough damage to nog really gaf about armor

charred gale
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corrosive projection would do nothing

woeful venture
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alr

velvet pulsar
modest patrol
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any good heat combinations for the furis incarnon?

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like, i want to put an electric element to it's incarnon mode but i need to combine atleast a heat to stop it from combining with the inate heat damage

velvet pulsar
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There's blast furis

modest patrol
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oh? i tried gas and corrosion but blast escaped my mind

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i got a furis riven and am just cashing in the big disposition

woeful venture
velvet pulsar
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You're free to use any other aura mod

woeful venture
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hmm alr

velvet pulsar
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U can test ur shield gate with or without brief respite, you'll get the same results

astral tinsel
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due to the 10 stack limit - you'll hit that in a fraction of a second and just waste stacks from then on

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you could go secondary encumber + galv shot

foggy patrol
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Incredible gassy

fading bluff
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Should I switch the status mods for the raw damage ones?

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man my simulacrum only goes to lvl185 so it's hard to tell a difference, lol

inland vale
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would arcane camisado work on yareli, if she has loyal merulina augment??

strong quest
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Hey folks, question. How does one not die while playing Harrow? Like, do you go for shield gating, work around the invulnerability for that one roll mod? Do you get a specific augment? Do you just back away from the fight until your 4 runs out and spam it for its invulnerability?

steady coral
strong quest
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Gotcha, thanks!

mighty flare
inland vale
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should i go w crits on kompressa prime or just raw dmg??

civic apex
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Kompressa is a primer no? You probably want to focus on raw damage and status chance and duration

inland vale
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cant i build it for crit?? or is it best as prime/raw dm??

astral tinsel
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enervate crit is quite popular on it

fading bluff
astral tinsel
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because it can apply tons of blast procs and those stack enervate without critting and expending stacks

mighty flare
sleek grove
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I just got Nova and wanted a nuke build so I watched a few videos and made this. It's performance in steel path or any where really is terrible. Any ideas?

inland vale
fading bluff
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oh it's weaker

mighty flare
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no?

fading bluff
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My test was 20 Eximus heavy gunners using corrosive heat and nourish active,
with Crux+ Flare it took about 4-5 seconds for a clear, with enervate and merciless there are survivors

mighty flare
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did you change the build setup or just moved enervate over flare

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enervate vs flare has slight variations

fading bluff
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i only switched the arcanes crux> merciless and flare > enervate

mighty flare
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yeah nah

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you move more around

astral tinsel
fading bluff
mighty flare
foggy patrol
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Gratatatata

fading bluff
fading bluff
fading bluff
deep grotto
civic apex
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Makes the broken war one of my favorite melee right now. Because even with no rivens or arcanes or other funny boosts. It can still perform decently in both stats

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I just wish I actually had a stance mod for it 😭

deep grotto
civic apex
deep grotto
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When i mean stance it’s like
The most common stance mod for swords

civic apex
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I have a stance mod for every type of sword except for basic swords apparently

deep grotto
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Like if you ended up picking the Skana when you started playing, you could use it for b war

brittle sleet
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Iron Phoenix stance mod used to be dropped from an early relay, thought it still was dropped from it. Venus relay I think?

modest patrol
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right, so i'd like to be able to apply electricity stacks for the incarnon upgrade and for the potential conjuction voltage, thing is, as i said before, if i just slap any elemental mod it will combine with the riven mod, and even if i add another one, then it will just combine with the innate heat from the incarnon, the only way to bypass this would be to add a heat mod and combine heat with something

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honestly, might be best to give up on stacking electricity and focus on crit and viral

quiet laurel
modest patrol
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the riven gonna combine with it, i can add cold to make viral + heat

quiet laurel
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Yeah make viral heat

modest patrol
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oki, let me cook something up

modest patrol
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there are some... odd mod choices but this is what i came up with

heady moth
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made these cuz my riven is +heat and +multishot

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they both kinda feel the same though

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way more damage than needed

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maybe I should make another config for crit chance just to use with Yareli

quiet laurel
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And you only want one fire rate mod, slot crit chance mod instead of one of the 2 fire rate mods

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And try to get galvanized shot

modest patrol
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so like this?

errant pilot
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Feels like its not doing enough damage

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Im replacing hammer shot with Gal Apt and i do like 100k max

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Orokin enemies

astral tinsel
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with +600% base damage from cannonade + merciless

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you could try switching to electric

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wait no, what weapon is this?

errant pilot
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I forgot to metion lol oops

astral tinsel
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definitely don't go gaptitude then

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it does piss all

errant pilot
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It doesnt work on it?

astral tinsel
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only on the grenade impact damage

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doesn't affect AoEs

errant pilot
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I see. Should i stick with Hammer shot then?

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or replace it with something else?

astral tinsel
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I think I use hammer shot on my zarr

errant pilot
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179k damage on Armor strip with my Ember

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on a butcher

astral tinsel
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one sad thing about ember and heat weapons is that you get negative heat inherit

tawny nova
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should I sacrifice blaze for Crit damage?

astral tinsel
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that is, heat status from your weapons won't get scaled by heat mods on enemies you've already set on fire with your abilities

astral tinsel
tawny nova
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ty!

astral tinsel
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also, if you aren't running fire rate buffs, you should probably swap out PPB for cannonade

errant pilot
astral tinsel
errant pilot
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yeah. was thinking about that also

astral tinsel
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grouping enemies also helps

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if it had higher status chance, I'd say grouping + electric

solar burrow
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can you make a Koumei that guarantees a triple six roll?

errant pilot
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Nah thats impossible. Koumei all about Gambling addiction

quiet laurel
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I am also a fan to outsource fire rate so that I can have an additional slot for pistol elementalist

mellow nest
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Has anyone made the Corinth Prime work for them? Its the only weapon Ive used so far thats just terrible even against lvl 150 SP

red canopy
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Can this get any faster?

languid rose
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Is this riven for the basmu any good? I think the minus status duration might be a deal breaker tho 🙁

lilac breach
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How do you reset my points so I can use good mods

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I'm on saturn rn nd my dmg so buns icl

mellow nest
# lilac breach How do you reset my points so I can use good mods

What youre describing is known as Forma. It adds a polarity of your choice to your warframe or weapon or changes an existing one.
So you can get half a mods cost back for each forma, so around 5 mod capacity on average I'd say.

You can get Forma blueprints from opening Relics, Events or buying 3 for 35p on the ingame market.

Note that the more important part is an Orokin Catalyst on your weapon, which doubles its mod capacity from 30 to 60

rapid prairie
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is there any way i can get this to deal radioation and toxin instead of gas and electric?

weak venture
rapid prairie
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I did get it to

foggy patrol
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this is what happens if you give a monkey a ak 47

old sapphire
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if im using a speed build on Gauss does blind rage increase the speed of Mach Rush or nah?

tawny nova
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How does upgrading Valence effects on Kuva weapons work? For example if I have a weapon with 26% bonus and get another same weapon with a 30% bonus will sacrificing the 30% to the 26% increase it to 56%?

mighty flare
fathom sky
tawny nova
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Ty!

remote rapids
tardy thicket
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Anybody know if using an ammo pack as Cyte-09 and damaging an enemy with the special ammo triggers Arcane Impetus?

deep grotto
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The Quassus and Arum Spinosa heavy are forced procs, right?
So would i need to build for status at all?

fathom sky
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Consider: More procs on top of the forced ones.

deep grotto
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Fair enough

hexed sundial
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Same as toxic lash

mighty flare
mighty flare
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heavy spam quassus doesnt care about sc anyway, just get external viral

deep grotto
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Like it does exactly what the quassus does, but toxin instead of slash

mighty flare
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oh still external viral then but def use primed fever strike

deep grotto
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So maybe uhh
Heavy attack efficiency… status… maybe duration? And all the usual stuff

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I only have reg fever strike lmao

mighty flare
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that works

mighty flare
deep grotto
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Noted

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Thanks meats 👍

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Oh sick i even have Melee Duplicate

ruby vessel
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Ok i have to know is there ANY WAY of making Excalibur umbra's passive spector form tanky ile do ANYTHING subsumes pets/robots weapons ANYTHING that could work

near vortex
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if you do Warriors Rest it becomes invulnerable DagathLUL

buoyant patio
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The solution is either sacrificing a mod slot for Warriors Rest, or just using base Excalibur instead if you can take the energy max hit.

near vortex
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I think they're specifically asking how to make umbra passive not die

My first guess would be Vazarin Void Sling

ruby vessel
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ya

near vortex
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Gloom might work if you can sustain the energy

ruby vessel
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umbras pasive specter

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i have a teno biuld im using but being as umbra is the only warframe who can support it i have to use it

buoyant patio
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In that case, you're forced into running Vazarin.

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Protective Sling is pretty much the only thing that'll keep the specter alive in high levels.

ruby vessel
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um Dang

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i cant use vazarin cause i need madori for its damage but if i dont then umra is just doing nothing but dying

buoyant patio
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Then either use Warriors Rest, or don't use Umbra.

ruby vessel
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ile try vazarin out

near vortex
buoyant patio
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No, he just dies quickly cause he's slow.

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Takes all the hits.

ruby vessel
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arcance are dissables and anything that gives a non active buff 24/7 just dosent work

near vortex
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Why not do double shield gen and aegis

ruby vessel
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ile try that out

old sapphire
ruby vessel
pulsar ravine
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what if i ran crit surge ivara

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crepuscular + cd on dashwire + crit surge

sleek grove
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Yo, I just learned how to farm platinum and was wondering. What arcanes should I get that are kind versatile? I'd like something used in a majority of builds

wooden silo
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anyone trading augur reach and overextended?

hard dove
sleek grove
hard dove
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Not a lot of people use health tank wfs so it's not as valuable as aegis

sleek grove
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OK. Thank you

alpine lance
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I was wondering if this braton prime build is good enough for steel path or do I need to make any changes?

clever portal
alpine lance
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Okay

novel bear
pulsar ravine
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But breach has crit no?

cunning garnet
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I have cyte 09 building right now what weapons would go well with him :D

winter gale
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Anyone know a good melee to run with a marked for death ash build?

pulsar ravine
cunning garnet
delicate night
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my mental healths been shit so ive decided to make a fire based Excalibur build. Im thinking of using base excalibur and going for a wrathful advance fire chromatic blade build. But I wanted to ask for subsume suggestions instead of wrathful advance that would benefit a fire based build. I know its not "meta" but im just doing this for fun because ive also become quite bored of melee influence. My plan was if I do get rid of wrathful advance, id use the radial javlin augment that increases dmg.

pulsar ravine
cunning garnet
novel bear
pulsar ravine
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Kompressa deals silly damage

cunning garnet
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gyat it

pulsar ravine
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You also need the galv mod that works like cond overload

winter gale
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can anyone help me with this ash marked for death build?

old marsh
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anyone got a non Helminth AND Helminth Lavos build?

dusty dragon
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quick check, oraxia's health multiplier from her 4 is applied after all other modifers, right?

dusty dragon
gray quarry
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Feel free to make changes if you want

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No subsume, wouldn’t recommend doing that anyway since you lose that element

near vortex
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you can stack it and gives WAY more stats

haughty flicker
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Good morning, guys. I need some help: I went with Ability Strength instead of Critical Damage does Critical Damage even apply to Valkyr’s Talons? I don’t have Arcane Strength, which is why I chose Ability Strength instead

near vortex
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on a helminth build you can go min range subsume 2 and use Lavos as a platform

gray quarry
near vortex
gray quarry
near vortex
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1999 kinda hands out its arcanes like candy

old marsh
gray quarry
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Go full tau purples and you’ve got double the benefit than tau reds

old marsh
storm fog
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So what’s the best Letum build now? Is it non crit, status, full on crit or

carmine dew
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you can do crit or non-crit

old marsh
mighty flare
carmine dew
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you can helminth on lavos but it feels like a bit of a shame

gray quarry
carmine dew
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and if you do helminth on lavos its just roar lol

near vortex
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if you helminth on lavos do it over 2

gray quarry
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Nah imma do it over 5

near vortex
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losing magnetic viral and blast is the best of the worlds

old marsh
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Waiting for the day Lavos gets Baruuk’s augment that auto applies element which enemies r weak to ExcaliburLUL

gray quarry
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Unfortunately won’t happen, lavos is meant to be mixing elements to get the strongest combo for whatever enemy he’s fighting

gray quarry
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I’m waiting till he gets an augment that lets him combine every element into 1

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Yknow what frame needs buffs?

carmine dew
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saryn

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😎

gray quarry
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Nah, valkyr

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She needs to have the ability to look at any enemy and watch as they have a heart attack and die

old marsh
haughty flicker
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Okay I went with ability strength cuz I didn't have the Arcane that gives ability strength... Should I have went with the critical dmg instead because I went with ability strength till I get the Arcane ability strength

gray quarry
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Crit damage is better for valkyr cause it affects her talons

haughty flicker
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okay! heard you

gray quarry
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You don’t necessarily need molt augmented or arcane bellicose, mod for like 300% str(that’s how much I run on my builds so)and you should be fine even without bellicose or molt augmented

old marsh
gray quarry
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If you struggle with energy, maybe go for energize and fury

gray quarry
old marsh
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for Valkyr go with melee arcanes. u will be fine

gray quarry
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But no aegis barrier combo please, her passive makes shieldgating redundant

old marsh
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altho u can go for battery like this. once u pop your 2 and 3, that energy jumps to 1200+

haughty flicker
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I struggle with ability strength is why I thought the Ability strength was my better option but I guess that I was wrong there and so I should change them to critical dmg

gray quarry
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Can you show your build

old marsh
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which is useful for ETA/EDA modifiers where u have 75% less energy

old marsh
gray quarry
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Fair

old marsh
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literally at the start of mission i press 1,2,3,4. and hold E. profit

gray quarry
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Also underrated mod choice on valkyr: rage/hunter adren

haughty flicker
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I was up farming this Dragon key mods yestardy thank God the droop T_T

haughty flicker
old marsh
novel bear
old marsh
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like attack speed or extra melee dmg

haughty flicker
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I thought 200% ability strength wasn't enough! 😄

novel bear
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And strike isn’t great because of warcry

old marsh
gray quarry
mighty flare
old marsh
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or it being additive too?

gray quarry
novel bear
haughty flicker
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and thank you guys I will change my Arcane shards critical dmg it was critical dmg right!

old marsh
old marsh
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make sure u have 500+ max energy at all times

gray quarry
gray quarry
old marsh
haughty flicker
gray quarry
granite ginkgo
haughty flicker
haughty flicker
haughty flicker
gray quarry
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Ah

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Well slotting in rage/hunter adren over equil will work better than

haughty flicker
gray quarry
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Change to crit damage

haughty flicker
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okay heard you

gray quarry
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When you have the endo rank up your mods, I also gave suggestions to get up to the 300% ability str

haughty flicker
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Will do so

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I haven been working towards it 😄

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And thank you guys very much for the advice and guide means a lot appreciated

gray quarry
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You’re welcome

dusk kite
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How can I improve

near vortex
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by ranking up your Primed Heated Charge

dusk kite
near vortex
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looks good to me besides the unranked primed heated charge

old marsh
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anyone got a Kuva Quartakk build?

gray folio
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Is Daikyu Prime good on an Ash Prime build? I'm looking for the hardest hitting bow that does mostly slash damage

granite ginkgo
prime lava
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need octavia prime build (as lazy as possible)
and song for mandachord too

hard dove
prime lava
hard dove
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You heard me
Mods are optional

old marsh
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altho i would recommend duration and range. good QoL mods

hard dove
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But if you really want an actual build
Max range, max duration (don't use narrow minded) and whatever spot is left for strength
Arcane go augmented/efficiency/crepuscular

old marsh
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what he said

modern dagger
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anyone with a good venka prime build? stat sticks arent a thing anymore so

vocal phoenix
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How do i build Nyx? I want the nuke build not the immortal shooter one

old marsh
# vocal phoenix How do i build Nyx? I want the nuke build not the immortal shooter one

she is a weapons platformer. its literally built in her passive. but if u dont wanna use her 4, u can subsume number of abilities over it. her 1,2,3 will go the grunt work. her 2 will armor strip and her 3 will put 10 rad stacks on enemies. at the same time your 1's AI will keep killing enemies. and to "nuke" groups of enemies, u want cordon and a nuking primary/secondary that takes advantage of Nyx's passive.

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ZachSip altho i wonder if Nova's subsume can synergize with Nyx's 2 and 3

vocal phoenix
cinder burrow
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Guys i just started playing lavos prime with cedo prime, what build should i use for both? And what is the best sentinel/panzer to use?

pure gate
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Should I change anything in this build for sevagoth

old marsh
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but let me make one rq since u asked for it IvaraLurk

old marsh
woeful laurel
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need help building my Phenmor, can't keep up with SP

grave cloak
woeful laurel
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should i complete the incarnon evo first beofre focusing on the build? btw. it is a non-crit build - 3 incarnon evo unlock

grave cloak
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of course complete all your evos first DagathLUL the strength in the phenmor lies in the non-crit option

craggy vector
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anyone know how to build the Cinta cant seem to make it work 💔 nevermind i figured it out

dense gate
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Just finished making Nezha Prime today. Thoughts on this build?

half stratus
sleek grove
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Anyone know how to build the acceltra?

karmic totem
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Hi I'm new here to the server but I have a question. What is a good build for Oberon Prime now that Oberon himself has been reworked? I'm not that good at doing builds and just do my builds how I like but any advice would be helpful plus on Arcanes and Archon Shards. Thanks!

mighty pelican
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unfortunately, the mod costs 100k standing

karmic totem
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I have that mod actually

mighty pelican
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so you can turn him into a insanely high armor gifter for teammates, and with arcane battery that gives you more max energy for your armor you have a free slot where flow was

karmic totem
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Right! Makes sense!

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What about aura?

mighty pelican
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i use growing power

karmic totem
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I don't have that one yet

mighty pelican
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not necessary imo, was more of a "might aswell" pick

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no specifically fitting aura for his abilities/playstyle like some frames have

karmic totem
#

Ah ok

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Gotcha so I can just pick whatever?

mighty pelican
#

yeah

karmic totem
#

Ok. Thank you so much for your help 🙂

mighty pelican
#

no problem! CLEMLove

blissful atlas
#

Will any Melee work for Valkyr?

prime frigate
blissful atlas
#

Or as a backup weapon

prime frigate
#

They’re good for quick trash clear till you can get energy back

blissful atlas
#

Oh, rn i just have Broken war modded out

prime frigate
blissful atlas
#

Only have excal and excal umbra for frame, valkyr soon

prime frigate
#

Okay so not as far as I was assuming, my bad
Broken war probably would be more than enough to just hit through some stuff, non sp enemies should get shredded by any half usable build so you can keep your passive up for survivability till you get your energy up

blissful atlas
prime frigate
blissful atlas
#

I havent touched the build from the last time i played this game (which was like a year ago i think)

prime frigate
blissful atlas
prime frigate
deep grotto
prime frigate
#

I hate discord, images aren’t sending Angry

deep grotto
#

Most weapons don’t really need umbral polarities anyway

blissful atlas
prime frigate
woeful venture
#

any best incarnon weapon to pick ?

deep grotto
deep grotto
#

There’s a reason why people only use those damn things

prime frigate
#

I had to turn the damn image into a gif to make it send 😭

#

I’m so done with discord

blissful atlas
blissful atlas
prime frigate
blissful atlas
prime frigate
blissful atlas
prime frigate
prime frigate
#

It was gonna have to happen some day Clemsive

blissful atlas
#

Time to misserably farm the modsKahlSmile

#

Atleast i got Valkyr system blueprint fairly easy

balmy badge
#

DE pls buff ember 🙏

mellow vine
#

noo dont buff ember so it requires to be reworked

midnight horizon
#

I'm unstoppable now

cinder burrow
#

Is this a good build for lavos prime? I’m using cedo dual tox and sampotes

lilac lodge
#

Hi could someone recommend a build for Wukong?

hard dove
woeful venture
#

any best 2 stalker incarnon weapon to pick ?

mighty flare
half frost
balmy badge
#

nokko looks fun and i want to play him but it doesn’t seem like he has much killing potential when roaming. does anyone have a fix for this ?

half frost
#

For me casting his 2 then his 4 helps with this problem in exterminate missions

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Toss the 2 at the pack of enemies and then follow it up immediately with his 4

cinder burrow
civic apex
civic apex
#

Like if I posted my pre-new war Oberon build right now and didn't clarify I'd probably get someone telling me it's crap when in reality it does it's job really well

muted holly
#

What’s best nekros prime build?

civic apex
cinder burrow
#

Dw

half frost
cinder burrow
half frost
hallow hearth
#

How long does it usually take to get a good mod build? Since Ngl I'm very prone to burnout

ruby vessel
latent latch
#

What mods so I need to make zephyr faster

civic apex
# latent latch What mods so I need to make zephyr faster

Probably rush (30% sprint speed( and a parkour velocity mod (should average at around 20% parkour velocity and bullet jump speed.) Nora might also have an aura mod for speed on rotation from time to time if speed is your only goal. Putting amalgam serration on a rifle or bow is also a good option as that's a 25% buff to sprint speed passively. And then there's an incarnon melee that gives another 25% passive sprint speed.

muted holly
#

Anyone have best for looting build Nekros?

civic apex
# latent latch Thanks

Definitely recommend slapping an exilus warframe adapter on her that way you can put either rush or a parkour mod in that slot so you still have room for other mods

#

Amalgam serration can be earned by completing 25 thermia fractures on fortuna.

civic apex
#

Or are you just looking for damage and survivability to maximize your looting potential?

ruby vessel
# latent latch Thanks

he also forgot about using Helmingh for infested mobility witch gives a 15% modafied by strength to go faster
or 5 Archon Shard - +15% (+22.5% Taudorged) Parkour Velocity Amber per

civic apex
#

But if I ever do a speed build. That will go in the list.

ruby vessel
#

its cracked on titania as shes already the fasted warframe in the game withough it

civic apex
#

My adhd doesn't care for all thay rapid stimulation though. So I'll probably stick to playing the game at a reasonable speed ExcaliburLUL

muted holly
ruby vessel
civic apex
#

All I know about nekros is that he impacts looting. I don't know if that means that he impacts general loot drop rates? Or if he impacts the odds of double drops like a Vasca Kavat?

#

I really gotta started with the Demios faction that way I can actually start working towards a Vasac Cavat...

ruby vessel
#

nekros desacrate scales of slash and cutting enimes in half or more so you want a big weapon with a lot of slash

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if you wanted the ULTIMATE nekros you would need to helgmith somthing like petrify onto him for even more loot when killed

civic apex
#

So take a melee weapon where slash has the highest stat percentage, crank status to the moon, and put literally no other status mods on it unless they impact slash ExcaliburLUL

ruby vessel
#

LOL not fully but ya you want your damage to be mostly slash somthing like the coda motovore is amazing for that or if your new to the game use the broken war

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theres also 2 biuld for nekros the poor people nekros and the health nekros

velvet pulsar
#

Is everyone getting free emote reaction?

#

Here, I'll put one too

ruby vessel
#

after that its all about range effecieny and duration as strenght dosent effect nekros loot

civic apex
#

I'd probably just stick to using wellspring on Zeniruk

#

And an arcane to boost its ability duration as well primed continuity

civic apex
#

Or wait...

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Ignore that last part ExcaliburLUL

ruby vessel
civic apex
#

Equilibrium is great. I was using it on my Oberon before I swapped to using my operator for energy sustain

#

My methods are unorthodox to say the least

ruby vessel
#

you using your pistol for anything @civic apex?

civic apex
#

But they satisfy me

civic apex
#

So no. Just swapping out weapons for mr xp

mighty flare
#

elemental mods like toxin/heat dont affect slash dismemberment

civic apex
mighty flare
#

you dont use slash mods on weapons for nekros unless they have 50% or less slash weighting

ruby vessel
#

most weapons dont have 50% slash weight

civic apex
#

I'll probably never touch level cap in my life 😂

mighty flare
#

?

fierce egret
#

Every failed build is a chance to build something greater

civic apex
#

Running it back in my head

ruby vessel
#

tbh i feel this so hard as i just got Umbra to just kill shit by himself

civic apex
mighty flare
#

you are mistaken to think you have to "build hard" for lvl cap

ruby vessel
fierce egret
civic apex
mighty flare
civic apex
mighty flare
#

theres nothing hard to build for lvl cap

civic apex
#

I just wanna be silly and autistic and spend more time playing than I do optimizing or theory crafting

ruby vessel
mighty flare
ruby vessel
#

GOD DAMIT WARFRAME SERVER I CURSE A LOT I KNOW IM SORRY

#

i wanted to ask cause im f$#@ dum dose casting speed effect jades ophanim eyes defence reduction faster or not?

fallow flint
#

quick question, if i were to use violet archon shards, and get the 74% melee crit damage from it with my energy over 500, would this be additive? or multiplicative?

mighty flare
#

the shards are essentially an extra crit dmg mod, so additive to what you already have modded on ur melee

fallow flint
#

awesome thank you 🙂

#

now to spend my life getting 5x tau violets

astral flame
#

On paper, how do these stats look for Valkyr?

#

No augmented mods, no riven mods and no helminth yet

weak egret
#

should i replace pressure point for gladiator rush for higher crit. I already tried with gladiator rush and with pressure point and the damage seems the same (hate incarnon btw)

wet zealot
#

Hey guys, is there a list of how arcanes slotted to archguns interact with primaries / secondaries?
Because I've noticed that a Cascadia Flare slotted does proc on Temple's Lizzie. But no primary arcane did...

Is it that the other type procs? So for primaries (like Lizzy) secondary arcanes proc and for secondaries primary ones would?

wet zealot
near vortex
#

how does one mod a voidrig

wet zealot
cinder burrow
#

Is this a good lavos build? I’m using roar on 4 for more dmg and sampotes heavy slam

mighty flare
mellow nest
#

Isolation Vault Bounties, Necraloids Standing and Cavia Standing, aside some more drops

#

Thats where you can get the mods

mighty flare
#

after that, the necessary engine mods: thrusters, refuel

near vortex
#

okay
so I need to do a little farming

mellow nest
#

You can also buy them but theyre very expensive for how basic they are

potent bramble
#

plz gimme good edun build cuz i got this so far

mighty flare
mellow nest
#

Check what you can get froM cavia, since thats the most comfortable farm.
Afterwards its Necraloids or Necraloids directly, if you have a ressource booster (doubles matrix drops)

potent bramble
cinder burrow
mighty flare
#

on the otherhand

#

its very janky

potent bramble
#

so just instead of heavy attack like normal i have to slam heavy?

mighty flare
#

no

#

you just dont have the regular heavy attack of polearms

potent bramble
#

yeah i can tell

#

i just threw it across the map lol

tawny nova
#

hey guys, I'm tinkering around with the Kuva Stuba and was wondering should I go for High Status + Damage OR Crit?

muted quest
#

is this ok ?

mighty flare
#

also edun has weird thing of the throw attack recieving 1/4 benefits of condition overload

potent bramble
mighty flare
potent bramble
#

so far ive been using dreamers warth

#

wrath

mighty flare
#

dreamers wrath is nice but its less consistent than disicplines

cinder burrow
#

Is this a good lavos build? I’m using roar on 4 for more dmg and sampotes heavy slam (already sended this message but i can access the game now so you guys can see the build better)

wet zealot
# astral flame

Get the augment for Hysteria (her 4) it's really good, if you use it (I don't use it - use other melee, so no augment)
Here's my build. It's pretty weird cuz of the umbra formas.

astral flame
mighty flare
# astral flame

energy nexus is disabled during her hysteria so take that off, drop power drift and vigor cuz not useful
you want more ability range for her other abilities and hysterical assault is useful qol exilus augment

mighty flare
# astral flame Aight

the other useful augment is eternal war which lets you not have to recast war cry every so often

astral flame
mighty flare
#

yes dont use enraged augment

#

its not good at all

astral flame
mighty flare
astral flame
#

Okay

#

I'll try it out

mighty flare
#

this can all fit (even equilibrium & exilus augment) with 0 forma too

mighty flare
astral flame
mighty flare
#

thats likely more of issue with modding

#

you want lots of range to improve her grouping abilities

mellow nest
thorn kiln
#

why do a lot of volt builds use shield regen mods like vigilante vigor and fast deflection?

#

is it able to auto shield gate at an insane rate like gauss?

lost hull
#

4th aug replenishes shields, don't know if it stacks with those though

#

Checked, it does

thorn kiln
#

ok thanks

foggy patrol
serene yacht
gray quarry
gray quarry
# astral flame

Drop energy nexus, vigor, vitality, streamline and prec intensify. Slot in blind rage, continuity, eternal war(warcry augment), normal intensify(or umbral, trust) and augur secrets. Probably take swing line off for the eternal war augment or power drift and slide swing line there. Get atr as high as possible while keeping her range and duration around neutral. If not doing sp slot in equil over rage otherwise rage will work fine. Also use that one dragon key to kill your shields and give you the least shieldgate as possible

mighty flare
#

thats useless

#

valkyrs never cared about high strength

gray quarry
#

Get warcry as high as possible, don’t know if there’s a cap on the melee speed from it

#

Ripline has plenty of range on both the distance and pull range, her 3 is kinda mid, her 4 doesn’t need any stats upped(since she doesn’t need much energy investment from the rework, and rage/hunter adren works as energy econ) so really the only stat she wants upped is str for warcry

mighty flare
#

having higher range will be more useful that maxing out strength for no reason

odd holly
#

Hey Guys this is my dual ichor build
Do you think I can do it any better? (I'm thinking of not upgrading mods)

gray quarry
# mighty flare having higher range will be more useful that maxing out strength for no reason

Most of the time her 1 will be used is for movement, and 75m on the distance base is nice but most enemies are gonna be right in your face, I’ve tried a high range build on valkyr(it was a smite build over her 3, might have to revisit that again at somepoint actually just thought of tossing her 1 for smite instead, eh I’ll mess around with it later) but the grouping of her 1 didn’t really increase by much. Maybe a bit of range is fine but maxing str is what I’ve found to work better to maximize warcrys effect

mighty flare
#

you increase range for the grouping range of 1, not the pull length
you are lying to say theres no difference between 9m and +20m for grouping abilities

#

how useful is 300% warcry over 200%

gray quarry
#

I might have to mess with warcry and see if there’s a cap

mighty flare
wet zealot
# serene yacht Why triple umbra?

Why not?
Had some from alerts, the nightwave and teshin. So slapped them on. And since she's more health tanky now - works perfectly for me.

Didn't run her to lvl cap - would probably need to make some adjustments for that.

fathom sky
#

The why not is usually going to be some explanation of 'wasting' slots you could've spend to just make your abilities better and then rely on her deathgate mechanic to survive, making the extra health and armor very redundant and wasteful.

wet zealot
gray quarry
astral flame
# gray quarry Drop energy nexus, vigor, vitality, streamline and prec intensify. Slot in blind...

What type of ritual did I just get the notification for? 😅
But sure, I'll try it, I am experimenting with suggestions and so on to learn so why not

Also, I found a good setup (personally) that I am still tweaking
What level enemies are common for SP?
So I know if I am even close to ready for SP since Netracell enemies are usually around level 240 it could give me an idea since I'd kill them in one strike

wet zealot
mighty flare
gray quarry
#

Also just a civil argument, no rituals yet

serene yacht
cinder burrow
#

Can someone give me a good cedo prime build with riven for sp?

gray quarry
#

Especially for sp stuff where you get quite a bit of energy from just taking damage, which valkyr is doing alot

#

I can’t take credit for the idea, someone in one of the other chats gave me the idea for hunter adren/rage instead of other energy sources

mighty flare
#

you might as well just get equilibrium
thats so inconvenient

serene yacht
mighty flare
#

you also just mess up ur other warframe builds

gray quarry
#

Using rage/hunter adren on valkyr? Do tell how it messes my other frames builds

mighty flare
#

did you forget the dragon key you mentioned

gray quarry
#

Ah the dragon key part

serene yacht
#

Ok then how do you fully utilize those two mods.

#

To me it makes zero sense to add them on valk when she isn’t even a raw hp frame.

fathom sky
#

She can be, it's just that the deathgate is just so much more convenient for slots

carmine dew
#

yeah honestly why overthink it, lol

#

death gate is often enough esp solo but you can just run cata shields and brief respite because you're spamming 1

novel bear
astral flame
#

Haven't got red yet

carmine dew
#

honestly I'm kinda still not seeing it

#

why not just run equilibrium? you also have the choice of nourish/lycath's because 3 is an easy subsume slot

queen parcel
#

how do i make the war...good?

astral flame
mellow nest
#

Youll have to wait another day when subsuming anyways

astral flame
carmine dew
#

war, what is it good for? absolutely nothing, say it again

queen parcel
#

dammit...

mellow nest
queen parcel
#

tch but i dont wanna farm simaris for the broken war!

mellow nest
#

Just dont

#

Use any other melee weapon

astral flame
queen parcel
#

no see you dont understand, i need a sentitent melee weapon for my caliban build, and i guess i could use the venato but i wanna use swords cause it's a knight build

#

er knight fashion

astral flame
mellow nest
#

Theres 2 more segments for it that you will want to get eventually

astral flame
mellow nest
#

You have 7 right now

queen parcel
#

i mean there's gotta be a way right?

carmine dew
#

similar sort of aesthetic, maybe

queen parcel
#

maybe...

mellow nest
#

Although thats not terribly knight-like

queen parcel
#

yeah

#

hmmmm

mellow nest
#

That weapon is sentient tho

queen parcel
#

is the korrum any good?

mellow nest
#

Wait I made a list of all sentient weapons a while ago

#

Sentient Weapons

  • Basmu
  • Battacor
  • Broken War
  • Cyanex
  • Komorex
  • Korumm
  • Nataruk
  • Nepheri
  • Ocucor
  • Phantasma
  • Shedu
  • Tatsu (Prime)
  • Venato (Prime)
  • Verdilac
  • War
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Altough it doesn't differentiate melee and Ranged

#

No idea if the Korumm is actually good

queen parcel
#

i could use tatsu...more eidolon then sentient but still

mellow nest
#

But Calliban to me has more of a Gladiator vibe than Knight vibe anyways, so this weapon would fit that well @queen parcel

#

Eidolon is sentient tho

astral flame
# mellow nest You have 7 right now

2× Azure Archon Shard

1× Tauforged Azure Archon Shard

4× Crimson Archon Shard

2× Tauforged Crimson Archon Shard

4× Amber Archon Shard

1× Tauforged Amber Archon Shard

Just went through them all

mellow nest
#

Well I didnt know

astral flame
mellow nest
#

Do you know what the last segment does?

#

Want me to spoil it?

queen parcel
mellow nest
#

Not really, its just sentient man

#

Mega sentient, but the war is that too

astral flame
mellow nest
#

Want to know it?

mighty flare
astral flame
mellow nest
#

Last Helminth Segment allows you to ||upgrade 3x normal to Tauforged or combine 2 base colors into a green/orange/purple shard with special effects||

#

So your extra shards are useful always. Slotting them is free, but removing them costs a little bit of your ressources

astral flame
mellow nest
#

Removing doesnt destroy shards

astral flame
#

That's good because lord are they hard to get

#

My dual toxocyst is done crafting!!

mellow nest
#

Lets gooooooo

astral flame
#

Okay before I do anything stupid with an Orokin Catalyst
Is there a better version I can get later down the road?

mellow nest
#

You can get them from

  • Archon Hunt (base or 40% of Tau or 80% of Tau if you skip a week)
  • Sanctum Anatomica Netracells (chance for normal or Tau up to 5x a week via Search Pulses)
  • Sanctum Anatomica / 1999 Archimedea (up to multiple chances for normal or Tau, unlock of mode requires 2 Search Pulses)
mellow nest
astral flame
mellow nest
#

Its from the Steel Path version of Duviri Circuit. You dont have to buy any gameplay content for plat

#

Normal Duviri Circuit has Warframes and some other gear. Steel Path version has rare arcanes and Incarnon Adaptors, which switch every week

#

You dont need Incarnon Adapters, but they boost some weapons to be extremely powerful

#

Any more questions? Else Ill call it a night

astral flame
carmine dew
#

dual tox doesn't have a sidegrade

#

you might be thinking of the torxica but that's a different thing

rare dome
#

Torxica is great and all but toxocyst is WAY better

sleek shale
#

are there any weapons that have corrosive as base damage?
by extension i know that there is at least one weapon that does base viral but idk what

hard dove
sleek shale
#

but thx anyway for the help

hard dove
#

There's also scourge and synapse

sleek shale
#

i am looking at wiki

hard dove
#

I forgor
All i remember is that velimir is selling it

sleek shale
#

welp thx have a good night

midnight horizon
#

What's a godroll falcor riv chat

#

Something something elec cd ic -imp?

digital plover
#

Since we can put both Dexterity mods on archguns now, can they stack with your primary's and secondary's dexterity mods to get even longer combo duration?

deep grotto
#

Anyone got a Broken Sceptre config? I know its probably not the best weapon but I don’t wanna let it sit around and collect dust

sleek shale
#

Is the kuva bramma commonly used or not ? I got a riven for it

velvet pulsar
brittle sleet
#

Not really crit-capable so you would just run it as straightforward influence-focused slop

midnight horizon
#

If mirage clones are not affected by combo, does that mean their melee stats don't get affected by blood rush / weeping wounds

deep grotto
deep grotto
fast salmon
#

Question about Nokko: if his 4 hits an enemy's weakpoint will it count as a weakpoint hit?

deep edge
#

if i subsume sevagoth 4 with roar, is there any benefit to build his shadow?

serene yacht
serene yacht
deep edge
serene yacht
serene yacht
#

I recommended ‘Preperation’ mod if that interaction still works

deep edge
serene yacht
#

The same logic goes for Nokko with his little sprodling form

deep edge
#

ic, thanks for the info

serene yacht
#

Np

deep edge
storm sable
#

What does multishot do?

serene yacht
serene yacht
storm sable
# serene yacht More damage

But how does it achieve it? Does more bullet come out of the weapon when i shoot? Or how does it work exactly? Does my ammo disappear faster?

mighty flare
mighty flare
serene yacht
mighty flare
#

there are some exceptions like incarnon evolutions

serene yacht
serene yacht
mighty flare
#

smite hydroid

deep edge
serene yacht
mighty flare
serene yacht
#

Yea get that, I was thinking armor strip on top of armor strip

mighty flare
#

the other frame that theoretically uses smite good enough to make aoe kill is caliban

#

he has dmg vulnerability and armor strip

deep edge
# mighty flare yeah

does the arcane needs me to be in shadow to proc or it can proc even if im sevagoth?

deep edge
deep edge
mighty flare
deep edge
mighty flare
#

you might die, which makes it useful to slot if you can

#

ultimately optional

deep edge
#

isnt it better to use barricade or tank arcanes instead? assuming i can keep my energy uptime

mighty flare
#

barricade?

deep edge
#

its better to make my shadow as tanky as possible to safely consume without dying than energize that i dont realy need since i can maintain my energy uptime

#

thats what im thinking

mighty flare
#

iirc shadow has some armor bug that makes it as strong as a leaf

#

so shieldgating

#

unless that was fixed

serene yacht
deep edge
serene yacht
#

The preparation mod should always work whenever you use your shadow

mighty flare
serene yacht
deep edge
serene yacht
mighty flare
#

hildryn doesnt even use it

#

aegis exists

serene yacht
#

Even then aegis is better

deep edge
real basin
#

Would the 20% DR whilst Airborne passive from Boreal's Hatred have an effect on Hildryn during her Aegis Storm?

mighty flare
#

yea

real basin
#

Awesome.
Thank you!

#

I'm planning to slot another Red Tau Forged for another +15% Strength.
Thoughts?

mighty flare
#

i always use at least 1 pv

real basin
#

PV?

mighty flare
#

parkour velocity, applies to her dash in 4

real basin
#

Ooh. Noted.

#

Thank you.

mighty flare
#

hildryn moves very slow without that

real basin
#

Does her dash during Aegis Storm count as a dodge and would Amalgam Barrel Diffusion's +60% Dodge Speed help?

mighty flare
#

yes

real basin
#

Groovy.

deep edge
#

does nek affect enemy blueprint drop rate?

old marsh
#

with the Hema augment in NW, I was wondering if i should remove crit chance mod on my Hema and add more status

storm sable
#

What do i use against grineer? Im lowk strugling

old marsh
tawny bay
astral tinsel
weak venture
#

does hitting eidolon synovia count as a headshot?

#

it is a weakpoint, but does it count as a "weakpoint hit"

astral tinsel
grave cloak
tawny bay
grave cloak
#

I'd be lying if I gave it a 1/10, no? DagathLUL

tawny bay
grave cloak
#

it's an issue because

  • an eximus that is immune to cc will just ignore your grouping
  • you're not factoring that enemies can just move out of the bubble in normal gameplay
tawny bay
#

you js like ruining fun dont you?

grave cloak
#

nah I just like being efficient

tawny bay
#

which is boring

grave cloak
#

now that's subjective

quiet laurel
#

bro asked for a rate on the build and then acts like this

#

such a classic

weak venture
#

does the kuva drakoon count as a "bow" and get doubled fire rate bonus since its a charge weapon?

grave cloak
#

no, it's counted as a shotgun

distant jackal
#

Hallowed reckoning a decent option for a support oberon?

#

I get around 1.5k more armor w it on my build

carmine dew
#

yeah it's not bad

steady stirrup
#

What exilus mod should I put on nokko?

blissful atlas
#

Is this Exilus mod any good?

weary zinc
#

Am gonna put thermal sunder on Rhino for AOE, will it be good?
I feel like his only issue is AOE

weary zinc
blissful atlas
#

My one and only riven🥲

weary zinc
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But corpus not much issue

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Does Latron have an Incarnon?

split whale
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Arguably the best incarnon

old marsh
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S tier

weary zinc
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Nice

old marsh
weary zinc
woeful venture
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any melee that worth to incarnon ?

old marsh
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RebSmug purposefully missing half the shots on Corpus

split whale
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Okina Prime

weary zinc
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Lots of them, hate and Dual ichor also

old marsh
weary zinc
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Especially if u hv burning hate Mod

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Nami Solo might be the best one

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Cuz it has 100% follow through

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Hate with Burning hate mod for ranged Melee Nuke with Volt

blissful atlas
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What would actually be a good riven for like a bow?

old marsh
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Be mindful, Bo Prime is vaulted so wait for it to come out or buy it. Cermaic Dagger is a Nightwave weapon so wait for it as well. Rest you can farm

weary zinc
blissful atlas
weary zinc
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Not all bows the same, different ones need different stats

blissful atlas
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How bout Nataruk?

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Since i think its pretty good bow

weary zinc
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Hmmmmmmm, u hv a riven for it?

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Yes its very good, infinite punch through

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On Nataruk, too much fire rate is bad

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Can't get Perfect Shot

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And Punch through is useless

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Nataruk has infinite punch through

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So you want everything else, depending on your build if status or crit

blissful atlas
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I think crit build would be better, since status is inconsistent from what i saw

weary zinc
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Yes, especially if you aiming for headshot

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I think headshot is easy on Nataruk because arrow is huge

south harness
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i have this old saryn prime build, but i feel like wet tissue paper and the energy upkeep isnt that good sometimes

can anyone help me revamp this build into something that can survive looking at enemeis a bit more and doesnt have me spamminga 77 energy cost move every 1.33s

carmine dew
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raise your efficiency then lol

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like you already have a maxed energize r5, there's not a whole lot more you can do with just a frame build

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drop blind rage

woeful venture
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taking a chest in duviri count as mission ?? and i cant leave safely ?

mellow nest
mellow nest
versed harbor
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ye this really needs an equilibrium setup, energize is kinda bad in comparison

carmine dew
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prob drop stretch for equilibrium

versed harbor
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I dont rly see much use for range here either, pure weapons platform would perform better

carmine dew
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same polarity and stretch doesnt do a whole much

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like you have roar subsumed, its already a WP build

versed harbor
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ye

south harness
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i dont want a totally pure weapons platform, i still want spores spreading

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but ill slot in equil and change the arcane

versed harbor
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maybe drop blind rage / transient for equilibrium then

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spores are usable but just kinda sad and its kinda spammy as a playstyle imo

carmine dew
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yeah enemies die so quick that spores are kinda ignorable these days

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esp on saryn of all people

south harness
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i used to hide in a corner and rack up like 10x kills of everyone else in the squad combined with spores

carmine dew
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venom dose/toxic lash/roar is something like 800% more damage? lol

south harness
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ggs

versed harbor
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rip

carmine dew
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besides there are new frames like nokko that are doing that whole caster afk thing a bit better these days

south harness
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i never really cared to be super meta, this is a power fantasy game, but ill touch up on this and experiment

carmine dew
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you dont care to be super meta but you're playing roar subsume saryn? lol

south harness
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:caught:

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my bad

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yeah i realize im a billionare whos saying money is fake

carmine dew
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😭

south harness
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but i also just dont want to do something cus its the best thing, like i still like using spores

versed harbor
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u can make it work :]

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especially solo

south harness
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ya

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my annoyance with this build was moooooostly just the fact that im wet tissue paper

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i cant make saryn work here bro there are no enemies

versed harbor
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ye saryn is like that tbf

south harness
versed harbor
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u could try a crowd control ability over roar or u could run a more passive way of surviving like shield regen setups (arcane aegis etc)

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otherwise saryn is just kill or be killed

carmine dew
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yeah fast deflection + vigilante vigor

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that's a fun combo and it works on saryn

south harness
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i can do that, lemme extract

carmine dew
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it is a bit more yolo than using 2 to shieldgate

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but it does work

south harness
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tears in my eyes

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is the shield gate bug thing only a thing with Catalyzing Shields?

carmine dew
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yeah

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basicall cata will give oyu the full duration no matter how much shield you have

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whereas without it your shield gate depends on how much shields you had before you lost them

south harness
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ill suffer the consequences of shorter spore spread

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0.2s regen

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ok ty chat 🫡 i shall continue to not practice what i preach

carmine dew
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if you still cant survive then try omamori mirage

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🥰

south harness
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lmao

carmine dew
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actually I think omamori cata should work on anyone

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come to think of it

south harness
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its pretty good

carmine dew
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just use vazarin DagathLUL

south harness
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true (im unskilled and need madurai + last gasp)

carmine dew
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might i suggest playing revenant then...............................

south harness
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rhino :)

carmine dew
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i was thinking of saying that but then i decided to be mean and say revenant

south harness
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im actually going for a dual coda torxicas build on rhino i just need eleanor to give me a not dogshit torxica

carmine dew
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you can valence formation them

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the % she gives is static for everyone

south harness
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ya thats what i mean

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i have 6 of them i just need MORE

carmine dew
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what is the vision there....

south harness
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when all she gives you is sub 30% you gotta get so many

carmine dew
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as in whats the vision with rhino dual torx build

carmine dew
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magnetic corro heat.. my brain wrinkles are deepening as we speak fr

south harness
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(and viral from nourish)

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and the pistols innately spread cold