builds-discussion

[velvet pulsar]

Also frostbite charging doesn't require cold to be arrived from the primary

The cold priming can be from any source

Blight on the other hand strictly requires the toxin procs from primary

[chrome badge]

aka verglas or helstrum with cold and shivering contag =

[velvet pulsar]

I believe DE brought these 2 similar arcanes to make players use viral less on primaries

Though ofc we have this for blight: Anabolic Pollination

[chrome badge]

i don't use viral anymore, i've ascended to blast buffoonery

[velvet pulsar]

I wish I could've said the same for my yesterday's larkspur build testing

[chrome badge]

why what happened

blast not blasting?

[velvet pulsar]

Blast enervate larkspur wasn't enough

[chrome badge]

[velvet pulsar]

I thought I could force it to crit

[long phoenix]

does the Double Tap Latron mod work with the incarnon mode?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[chrome badge]

likely

[charred gale]

it does but its a lil weird

[long phoenix]

thankfully I have Semi-Rifle Canonade but ofc the build I'm looking at wants Hammer Shot 😭

I already did the available Nightmare missions today lol

[velvet pulsar]

I think that's one of the first weapons on which I saw Hammer Shot

From there it just became casual on hybrid builds

[long phoenix]

I also want it on my Daikyu Prime, maybe Nataruk iirc

and maybe Torid? I forget if Punch Through is good on Torid Incarnon

[velvet pulsar]

It is but I think it's overrated

Though having something along with punch through is good rather than a pure punch through mod, like primed shred

[long phoenix]

I mean Shred/Prime Shred also has Fire Rate attached, which I think more ppl are interested in usually, but still

[lethal bison]

gang with this setup is umbral intensify better, or blind rage, or transient fortitude?

[hallow ore]

intensify

[charred gale]

if u can upkeep blind rage then blind rage

[hallow ore]

If u have energy always maxed during the mission try blindrage

[charred gale]

u can get rid of rolling guard lowkey unless ur trying to be rly safe

[mellow nest]

Gonna be hard to keep up energy with Blind Rage, Intensify is just better here

And Transient is only really used if you already have Umbral Intensify in the build or you dont need Duration at all imo. Its an 11% increase for -27,5% duration

[wispy arch]

is there any way known to extend Oraxia wall invis

[lethal bison]

i think if i drop rolling guard i can slot stretch or transient fortitude in

[charred gale]

u can add some energy econ to add blind rage

[charred gale]

get back on the wall

[lethal bison]

how about seismic bond?

[charred gale]

i forgot what that does

[lethal bison]

and i'm using panzer so i think i should always have this at 10x stacks

basically getting me back to 75 efficiency

[wispy arch]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-jon-snow-game-of-thrones-hypothermia-gif-3574049

[charred gale]

sounds good

[hallow ore]

which magistar to make an incarnon from?

[charred gale]

regular

sancti is better in useless stats

[abstract cargo]

Was doing Profit Taker for the first time and it was admittedly taking a while

it failed the bounty for some reason

at the final phase as well

sadge

[mellow nest]

Its for a reason, which is the time limit

[severe bough]

5 min time limited after the second pylon phase

[abstract cargo]

which frame shoul'd I use?

the only one I'm confident that can survive and deal damage is Rhino

[severe bough]

If u just wanna get him done one time play with randoms

[mellow nest]

Any, its about the weapons, not the frame

[severe bough]

If u want to actually farm him for credits chroma and the hole loadout around pt is the best choice

[abstract cargo]

I would've done it with Rhino if it weren't for those null corpus that kept taking away my Iron Skin

do i unlock Heist now or nah?

[severe bough]

What u mean?

[abstract cargo]

I was under the impression that after max rank Fortuna and Profit-Taker I could finally do heists

I was wrong

[crisp pine]

how do people get billions of damage out of their melee weapons and warframes?

[charred gale]

stacking buffs and using good weapons

[crisp pine]

like what take for example dante?

[charred gale]

dante has no damage buffing ability

so dante would be terrible for it

[crisp pine]

then do i hear people hit 1 billion damage per cast with him?

[charred gale]

huh?

from who

[crisp pine]

i can't remember but DE had to put damage cap for him back when as people were hit those numbers

[crisp pine]

okay maybe a different frame entirely for example then.

[charred gale]

kullervo is THE melee buffing frame

using wrathful advance with magistar incarnon is pretty easy billions of dmg

maybe add some viral priming too

another easy way to hit it is with mirage and a contagion zaw, because her dmg buff eclipse is applied twice onto contagion for whatever reason

[crisp pine]

yeah that is what i meant

[crisp pine]

ok ok... I see that. I was wondering why everyone is saying that they doing loads of damage but I am doing less damage or something.

[midnight horizon]

But wrathful voruna is the better kullervo fr

[charred gale]

True

But in terms of dmg kullervo is still better

Pretty sure

[crisp pine]

with the augment he has surivvablilty through the roof

or that is what heard

[mellow nest]

Many frames can either nuke directly with strength or indirectly via status damage. Certain effects like roar will double or triple damage done, so with the right combo you can deal tons of damage.
Stuff that scales with the enemy by % health or with their guns like Xaku will just scale to this damage by default.
Others like Dagath or Protea can just deal millions based on enemy health or billions by damage dealt during a time frame, where its mostly dependent on your weapons instead of the frame.

[crisp pine]

so it is just mostly the fact I do not use many frames that have billions of damage nukes or they just have a terrible weapon combo? As they see them just kill everything before I could even have chance of damage a single enemy? for example dante build?

[mellow nest]

It can be a combination of things, yeah. I personally dont use nuke stuff either, it isnt needed, its for lazy clearing mostly or for some missions where its crucial to clear enemies quickly

I also recommend not to play public matchmaking too much if you run into these people mostly. Its best enjoyed solo/duo imo, where you can play at your own pace

[sweet hamlet]

Best subsume on Baruuk

[crisp pine]

which brings me to my second question as I do see that I am doing millions of damage with dante but it takes mroe dark verse to kill really thicker enemies it seem on lvl 400+ or void fissure mission in void cascade. Am i doing something wrong with my build with 300% str and super fast casting? I have dirga priming with viral, heal, and rad

or am I missing good primer

[mellow nest]

Im no Dante expert, but Roar or Eclipse is usually the go to for more damage, Roar being a faction damage increase, meaning it will count twice for increasing status damage

[velvet pulsar]

I think his 4 could get an augment to be buffed by his 1

Also I think I see a pattern now

Next prime will be gyre, then we'll get an augment for Styanax's 3, then we'll get styanax prime.

[crisp pine]

for who dante or baruuk?

[velvet pulsar]

Dante
His book barely has any synergy with his other abilities

Not to mention u can still get impetus + encumber procs with Wordwarden even if u susbume off his 1

[crisp pine]

The question is how often i will fire that weapon....

Hmmm

[velvet pulsar]

I want more bouncing projectiles!

[crisp pine]

The noctua's alt fire could better for one. It just arca plasma shot which does not cover a lot and takr time recharge

[velvet pulsar]

The kind of claustrophobic nightmares of a tileset DE has been making really appreciates bouncing projectiles

[mellow nest]

Drakgoon + Fomorian Accelerant

[velvet pulsar]

Imagine if Velocitus was allowed to be same at atmospheric mode as it is in archgun mode...

Infinite bounces

Or maybe not infinite but u get the idea

[crisp pine]

currently experimenting with smite for the subme which has yield good results for dealing with single target though. But i am maybe should also get better primer?

[velvet pulsar]

Hound

[wispy arch]

what is best for Jade's Glory weapon for damage? Roar, Eclipse, Nourish?

[mellow nest]

And if you're looking for a gun instead, Epitath Prime, (Kuva) Nukor or Atomos

All of these are easy to get

[crisp pine]

could epitath be spammed and have massive aoe?

[velvet pulsar]

This robodog also sort of fills the gap of not having the advantage of retriever mods by spamming Spare Parts via Manifold Bond

[mellow nest]

Thats what it does, yeab

[velvet pulsar]

Yes & Yes

[mellow nest]

There's a mod to improve the radius by 44%, but I forgot the name

[velvet pulsar]

Primed Fulmination

[crisp pine]

currently using dirga to also energy cheat a lot with manifold bond

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah diriga can work too
However diriga ability priming has shorter range

But diriga also gets advantage of using duplex bond + tazicor

So both hound and diriga got advantages

[mellow nest]

You can very technically also prime with the Cedo Prime, if youre set on your secondary

But there's probably better methods

[velvet pulsar]

I use the cedo combo with sevagoth until my str reaches the threshold

Alt fire not consuming ammo definitely makes it spammable

[mellow nest]

You can actually recall it by pressing the button again

Useful in free roam where it doesnt come back quickly

[velvet pulsar]

I like that it doesn't return by default until it hits a surface

That way I can snipe with a shotgun

Cedo might as well be the longest ranged shotgun for getting kills, with probably acid shells sobek as 2nd conditional option

[mellow nest]

Well its homing so

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah by snipe I don't mean headshots

I mean long distance kills

(also Phahd Scaffold has infinite range)

Killing enemies hiding behind walls, without punch through

[lethal bison]

gang what's the benefits of running dethcube over nautilus

[velvet pulsar]

Other than energy generator, nothing

[analog stirrup]

Energy and not having enemies coming closer without your consent

[velvet pulsar]

And if u have duplex bond with verglas on Nautilus, even that advantage isn't saving dethcube then

[crisp yew]

nokko:)

[velvet pulsar]

Does only his 2 bounce or can u also bounce on 1?

[crisp yew]

2-2-1-4 and 3 if your shield go down

[velvet pulsar]

I mean trampoline

Ur warframe bouncing on it

[crisp yew]

you can bounce on both

[velvet pulsar]

Can u cast it on walls and ceilings?

[crisp yew]

sadly no

only on floor

[velvet pulsar]

[crisp yew]

😔

[lethal bison]

i have seen setups where nautilus just goes blasting the whole map with statuses

how do i build one

[velvet pulsar]

Contagious Bond alone can sometimes chain so far it reaches spawn point

[velvet pulsar]

Viral heat with momentous bond I guess

[grave cloak]

of these 3? roar
but you don't need any of these 3 tbh

[velvet pulsar]

I wonder if Jade's augment can loop itself if heat inherit is used

Spamming it on a strong target via any heat primer

[mellow nest]

What would you use to heat prime normally?

[velvet pulsar]

I'm gonna answer that question, but do not tie that with the current strat I'm talking about

Manifold Bond hound

Though a lot of my weapons also are probably running viral heat so that too

And I have currently fixed only one archgun for deployer choice, larkspur, which is also viral heat coz blast enervate didn't turn out to be that good of a choice for it, even when I added primary blight

I'll try Prisma Dual Decurions once Baro brings those

All other choices force me to have PSF on frames or are slow DPS

[solemn forge]

Is magistar incarnon worth building?

[mellow nest]

I think its great for slam builds

[spiral wyvern]

Guys could someone spare me a chakkur built?

[solemn forge]

I will probably eventually have to build every incarnon weapon so I better start working on it

[mellow nest]

If you want, yeah. Don't really got to catch them all though, if you dont want to

[wispy arch]

im looking to replace Jade's 1st ability

[grave cloak]

I don't think you can put roar onto jade then, so use nourish if you really want to

[carmine dew]

best slam weapon in the game

[grave cloak]

best is subjective tbh especially now with the slam nerfs, would rather use something like sampotes or tenet exec which didn't get hit with the nerfs

[gaunt wasp]

Sampotes in the corner:

[carmine dew]

it still has the evo that doubles slam radius

the slam nerf wasn't really that impactful as it is

[fierce egret]

Nokko+Nidus spectors will give Rhino enough strength to hypothetically give Rhino around 56k roar buff if built right

[velvet pulsar]

What abilities does a nokko specter cast?

[fierce egret]

Brightbonnet (his 2) which is also his subsume so basically you could potentially get more than 56k roar

And his 1 and 4 I believe Im not sure I havent run tests yet

[velvet pulsar]

This is protea scenario

[slow vortex]

Hello, isn't there a lot of efficiency, buddy? Power, range and power are important, right?

[velvet pulsar]

We have a specter capable to replace subsuming

[velvet pulsar]

Just saw that wiki also has his specter info updated

[fierce egret]

Ok Ill take look after school currently in class rn

[velvet pulsar]

Though I still wanna confirm if the 2nd ability trigger condition is based on enemy and not ur own energy reserve

[fervent rapids]

Trying to see how high I can get Nokko's bouncy ball in Simulacrum but the enemies just die too fast

[crisp merlin]

For a heavy attack focused build, would you recommend a Dex Nikana or Nikana Prime?

[crisp yew]

range power and duration are important for him, and dont worry about efficiency, his 2 gives you energy

[analog stirrup]

nikana prime, tho I don't recommend nikanas for heavy, their attack angles and animations are horrible for that >.<

[crisp merlin]

I'm using it with WA on Ash, so I'm not too worried

[velvet pulsar]

Can u throw it in void proc bubbles?

[analog stirrup]

its not the damage that's the problem, its the animation for the attack, if you are used to it then its fine but its still clunky. Hammers or daggers are much better for the purpose

[velvet pulsar]

Has anyone tried Nokko's 4 in a void bubble?

[fervent rapids]

I doubt that will affect it, considering it has its own target priority system

it might tho

[crisp merlin]

I understand. I'm saying that because the attack will be targeted, I assume the attack would connect a bit better

[analog stirrup]

as long as they are not being sped up by Nova it shouldn't be a problem, no

just take into account the delay it has before the attack lands

[coarse gorge]

How should I build Qorvex?

[velvet pulsar]

I guess 4th ability augment and arcane universal fallout

[coarse gorge]

Ah
I have one of those things

my dumb self traded fallout to buy Qorvex..

[crisp yew]

the ball buff goes up 25%crit rate x 10 times so 250% crit rate

more 100%

bc balls have 100% to crit

so 350%crit rate

i hope i helped you:)

[fervent rapids]

I know, I'm referring to damage numbers

[crisp yew]

hum

is about 360k to 2 million or more

[fervent rapids]

Highest I've gotten in a mission is around 4 mill

[crisp yew]

the max i got was 5M on Temporal Archmidea

😭

[coarse gorge]

How should I build Qorvex?

[patent igloo]

you shouldn't

[carmine dew]

harsh but true 😭

[mellow nest]

Not an expert myself on him, but it will ofc depend on the mods you have access to and also which way you want to go with him. He's got augments that kind of change how you will be playing his kit

[coarse gorge]

I know people generally use the augment for his 4, which I did pick up and use.

[nocturne ridge]

Can someone tell me how good these rivens are? I got both within the past few days.

[coarse gorge]

Scyotid riven is...not that good.

people hardly go for viral for that weapon.

[mellow nest]

You can restore energy while channeling it via Equilibrium. You also want to have a lot of range for your other abilities. The Augment for Containment Wall will let it strip armor and shields now, which greatly increases the damage of Crucible.
The wall can also group enemies for crucible, so range is great here @coarse gorge

[nocturne ridge]

Okay

[mellow nest]

The pillars will go into overdrive during crucible (augment) so the range helps to affect more enemies.
If you have it, Arcane Universal Fallout can help with sustainability, however its really expensive atm

[coarse gorge]

The irony was that I sold my universal fallout for Qorvex...didn't realize what I've done until it was too late..

[coarse gorge]

But anyways. The bottom line is that I should go for range/strength?

[mellow nest]

Its all good, dont worry about it

[coarse gorge]

I'm tryna buy it, though, but it's difficult on switch since I don't use other platforms.

[mellow nest]

True that

[fervent rapids]

Loid has a Höllvania Arcane pack now, which can give the ETA Arcanes

[mellow nest]

Yeah pretty much. Have a look at precision intensify, if you want to invest heavily into Crucible

Its +90% strength on the 4

You can use blind rage and compensate a bit for the extra cost with more duration, since it affects efficiency of channeled abilities

[coarse gorge]

Oouh, I've been running Umbral Strength with Umbral Armor to utilize battery

base armor is crazy

[mellow nest]

Primed/Archon Continunity would be best

Arent you invulnerable while using the 4 with augment? I dont remember

[coarse gorge]

Oh wait I think you are

Okay so, I'll ditch the umbrals and go for what you said.

but the high energy—

[fervent rapids]

Qorvex has the highest base armor of any frame yeah

[mellow nest]

I think Precision Intensify + Blind Rage to counteract Overextented.
Then Equilibrium for Sustainability.
For the Augments you can use the wall augment for Steel Path to strip armor, as enemies habe up to 90% dmg reduction via armor

[coarse gorge]

Oh okay bet.

Thx dudes
Qorvex is the last unique Warframe I need.

now I can say I've played every unique frame
(Not including frames with primes)

[humble crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDAA1qAucDQ

guys use this build it is god tier

you can shred through steel path with eaz

[ripe patio]

is this good chat?

[mellow nest]

For self-use?

Or trading?

[ripe patio]

oh soz, self use

[mellow nest]

Multishot is great, Im not too familiar with the gun itself but if firerate is alright then keep it at this imo

You can get a way better roll for sure, but the point of a riven you keep is to fix parts of the weapon you dont like or to push past a breaking point

[ripe patio]

ok yea defo keeping it then, did some research and multishot and fire rate is pretty much all you need for it because of the grouping ability. thx

[tropic ice]

Got a similar one for Akbolto a little bit ago. has multishot and crit chance.

[mighty ferry]

does galvanised savvy work with shotgun elementalist?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[lethal bison]

gang uh is chroma good in endurance

[mighty flare]

evade chroma 🫃

[deep grotto]

I know that people go “grrr no umbral mods on the one umbral frame” but i wanna actually use them ngl

[lethal bison]

what

i mean triple umbral umbra is the goat

[lethal bison]

i mean i wanna keep effigy though, subsuming it removes the whole point of chroma

can i subsume on his 1

[deep grotto]

I drop my Excal umbra build and people go “hey you shouldn’t use triple umbra on excal”

[lethal bison]

how about you tell them to f off and rock this in cascade like me

[velvet pulsar]

foff

[lethal bison]

haven't had any problems with a squad

[deep grotto]

Based

[lethal bison]

in solo perhaps a bit

[deep grotto]

Then again it’s probably steel path nonsense

[lethal bison]

but who the hell solo cascade anyway

[mighty flare]

?

[deep grotto]

Although I do recall people saying that some mods can do more damage than umbral ones, for less drain

[lethal bison]

it ain't cascade without your friends biching about not nuking the whole room

well pardon my attitude

back to the question

can i subsume evade in chroma's 1 instead of 4

i want to keep the dragon

i mean i only use heat ward anyway

[novel bear]

What do you have for healing?

[lethal bison]

uni fallout + 1 violet equi shard

and i use panzer

[carmine dew]

umbral intensify is an optimisation over regular intensify if your build asks for it

but its not worth slotting in the other two most of the time, though I think in umbra's case its forgivable

[near vortex]

it's really hard to justify health tanking Excalibur when his health is so low to start with

[carmine dew]

triumbra + arcane reaper is enough until cap

and like you already have the polarities so you might as well stick with them ig

its better not to use them but it means using a lot of forma to overwrite the polarities so i just triumbra on him lol

like imo if arcane reaper adaptation triumbra is not cutting it then youre prob better off playing wukong or something instead anyway

[velvet pulsar]

Lvl clap?
I just hope it clears ETA/EDA standards

[carmine dew]

excal health tank is reasonable enough for EDA/ETA in squads, idk about solo cus I kinda hate playing that mode so I never solo it

but I do pick him in that so I can get all the shard rewards

[velvet pulsar]

Solo is dead

Squad is alive

[carmine dew]

in squad your teammates will help you with staying alive by drawing aggro and reviving you and stuff, and excal exalted damage is really really high,s o

one of the better picks probably

[velvet pulsar]

Hiding behind a wall counts for survivability

Spam exalted blade infinite punch through

[carmine dew]

lol

[velvet pulsar]

Specially the fat heavy attack projectile which goes 20m

[carmine dew]

well depending on the modifier you might get instadowned by some bs but exalted damage and influence spread is huge

but he's not popular in cap because yeah you might as well just play wukong or even valkyr

[velvet pulsar]

I don't think they still fixed the chromatic blade not buffing his heavy attack wave

Nor did they enable purple ability dmg shards to triple dip on exalted influence

[velvet pulsar]

Exalted rework saved wukong's 4?!

I thought it's still a dead subsume slot?

[carmine dew]

you can subsume it if you want but its also good enough to use as well

[velvet pulsar]

Damn

Influence slop really does buffs things magically

Midas touch on its way to archmelee

[carmine dew]

wukong staff has really hgih range and full punch through, so it's quite usable yeah

its nothing special per se, but now you can subsume e.g. his 1 with WA/roar/whatever and have your 2 and 3 as giga cracked survivability and mobility tools

[velvet pulsar]

Also double influence coz Wuklone

[carmine dew]

that's how I like to play him

the clone is good but I don't really like using it because it just feels like, press button and then stuff dies somewhere else lol

[velvet pulsar]

Does Wuklone not get simultaneous equal powered iron staff?

As in, if u have WA active?

[carmine dew]

I dont think so, iirc it uses your gun if youre melee

[velvet pulsar]

That's for regular use
When u press 4 I think both use iron staff?

[lethal bison]

usually if i'm in a defense, like stage def or mirror def in archimedeas i will be the one mainly defending

while the other 3s jumpscare the mechs/babaus for reduced mission time

excalibur might not have the best single target dps but his aoe clearing is nuts

[velvet pulsar]

Also wuklone instantly builds arcane Camisado stacks if using any high fire rate weapon like beams

A wuklone with a rauta should be able to build ur combo while u r using melee right?

[lethal bison]

anywhos gang i need answers

[velvet pulsar]

Mountain Dew it

[lethal bison]

like

only heat ward is usable rn

cold ward and elec ward are dead

[mighty flare]

?

not a knower

[lethal bison]

what

i want to keep the dragon

[velvet pulsar]

Cold ward shenanigans

It's as bugged as merulina

[lethal bison]

i mean, can't we change the ward element manually like how chromatic blade works

[mellow nest]

If you could crank the elec ward to like 50 m

[velvet pulsar]

Only via ur 1

[mighty flare]

?

[velvet pulsar]

U subsume off ur 1, how u change ward?

[mellow nest]

If you subsume then its emissive color 1 that determines it

[lethal bison]

really?

[mighty flare]

you only get one ward if you subsume off 1

which is why you subsume over 4

[velvet pulsar]

It's called "ability synergy"

[mellow nest]

🫡

[lethal bison]

yes, i meant it

[velvet pulsar]

U know what subsume off his 3

Get survivability at the cost of dmg

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/no-cat-no-cat-cat-meme-gif-12648446265180742764

[lethal bison]

great idea (no)

[velvet pulsar]

[mellow nest]

I also did the math on the cold vs heat ward and cold is actually more efficient health iirc

[velvet pulsar]

Does it multiply existing armor?

[mellow nest]

It goes by base only iirc

[velvet pulsar]

Or does vex armor do that?

[mighty flare]

having higher base armor than health might do that :3

[lethal bison]

you guys know what, no subsume then imma do a passive shield gate build (again)

[velvet pulsar]

Well then add mecha pulse to this combo

Multiply ur existing armor

[lethal bison]

so only elec ward is dead?

[velvet pulsar]

Hildryn uses it

[lethal bison]

we haven't even talked about toxic ward

[mellow nest]

Its got no range

[velvet pulsar]

Mecha Set nuking at lvl cap via %HP based procs

[mellow nest]

Toxic is a bit like Holster amp and vigorous swap

[velvet pulsar]

Toxin ward deals 5% of an enemy's HP worth proc

U uberboost it via mecha set

[mellow nest]

You can technically get some damage there but Im actually not sure about the falloff on the dmg add alone.

[velvet pulsar]

Also it's holster dmg
Which means vex armor + toxin ward is capable to increase dmg of weapon dmg class subsumes significantly, like null star

On the other hand, null star provides further DR

Win-Win situation:
U get an ability nuke and high DR tanking

Add huras kubrow and u r invisible

(or shade)

This is wayyy better than the overrated Null Star mirage build a youtuber covered a while ago, who I may or may not know

[mellow nest]

Lmaoo

[lethal bison]

i have this in mind

is this good?

max duration with evade subsuming 1

[velvet pulsar]

I miss when Guardian Armor used to be "Electromagnetic Shielding but warframe augment" in entire affinity range, which was infinite in RJ missions

[lethal bison]

is it a good augment

[wispy hearth]

does the +ability damage on radiation procced enemies from topaz shards interact with the %health damage from smite?

[mighty flare]

Yes

[deep grotto]

Lvl clap 💀

[velvet pulsar]

Yes
Ur dmg makes clapping sounds

new peculiar mod idea

[wild rune]

Peculiar Strike: Big Critical Hits have a 5/10/15/20/25/30% chance to viciously slap the enemy. Cooldown: 10s

[velvet pulsar]

B* Slap

Backhanded

[fervent rapids]

@crisp yew I got a 6 million bounce

not been able to replicate it since

that was definitely a spike rather than the average tho, most times the bounces peak at around 3-4 million

[south harness]

is there any fun subsume combinations to put over rhinos 1

[brazen grail]

Gloom or Nourish are kinda the go to. But I don't know of anyone crazy synergies

Any*

[south harness]

nourish is so boringggggg

[brazen grail]

I agree. So is gloom, honestly. They're just the most popular.

[lost hull]

Caliban’s subsume, become one very stompy boi

[south harness]

hm

ill go for it

hehehe 100% damage vuln

[tranquil plover]

how should i build burston incarnon

[haughty sparrow]

I've been loving the soma prime incarnon with primary Acuity and I'm not sure if i should be using the -bullet spread upgrade or the -recoil upgrade

[vital sail]

It's fun combining it with quorvex and his wrecking wall augment for over 250% damage variability

[south harness]

that seems pretty fun but i cant slot in an augment unfort

sth to consider atleast

[hexed shell]

Anybody know does Primary Crux work with e.g. Vectis 1 size mag build with Primed Chamber (does the mod apply the damage bonus until reload since you're basically always at 1 mag size)?

[novel bear]

Yes
You’ll get 2 shots per ammo

[maiden belfry]

Hey y'all is it a good idea to give the trunma prime galvanized CO? I feel like it's making me do a lot more damage than usual. I was thinking either the CO mod or some more fire rate but Im not sure what to go for.

For context I usually use this for steel path relics and go for as long as possible in endless missions

[novel bear]

Trumna has a lot of aoe, which co almost never applies to

[proud anchor]

The explosion doesn't benefit from the damage bonus aptitude gives

[maiden belfry]

Ohhh it doesnt? I didn't know that hmmm

[proud anchor]

You're better off with serration

[maiden belfry]

Im using primary deadhead tho so wouldn't it be a damage loss if I add serration because of the additive damage disrupting the deadhead buff? I'm still kinda figuring that part out

[novel bear]

Serration doesn’t mess with deadhead

[proud anchor]

You can use both since they are additive

[novel bear]

They’re not typically used together because diminishing returns

[charred gale]

Isnt the aoe multi CO tho

[proud anchor]

The direct damage on the alt fire is but nothing else

[charred gale]

Oh i meant alt fire mb

[proud anchor]

That's a bit niche for my liking personally

[proud anchor]

Oh btw the only time you lose out on deadhead gaining stacks is if a damage over time kills an enemy

[regal hollow]

What to keep now

[proud anchor]

Left

[regal hollow]

Ok ty

[proud anchor]

No problem

[sleek shale]

What are the focus schools I should focus on?

[dreamy galleon]

Madurai Zenurik and Naramon are the ones I use a lot

Those are all safe choices

But it's up to playstyle

[sleek shale]

Zenurik for energy
But what are the other for?

[dreamy galleon]

Naramon is for melee combo
Madurai for operator to actually do dmg

[maiden belfry]

Madurai for sure is the best one in my opinion but recently I switched to vazarin for survivability and it feels pretty good

[maiden belfry]

Wasn't half of naramon bugged? I remember I couldn't get half the tree perks to proc

[sleek shale]

K I ask because I wanna play jade but abilities with drain block energy regen

And zenurik mostly does regen

[maiden belfry]

Interesting but I meant the diminishing returns thing, I wasn't sure if I should use both serration and deadhead

[dreamy galleon]

Zenurik used to be more in demand but with all the energy sources you can kinda disregard it with a proper build

(equilibrium)

[maiden belfry]

Equilibrium my beloved

[dreamy galleon]

So I'd say madurai for longevity since lvlcap bros only run madurai or vazarin for more survivibility

If you lean for melee builds naramon is also nice

[maiden belfry]

Should I switch altitude for the galvanized critical chance mod or would that give me diminishing returns on my crit chance because of critical delay?

[maiden belfry]

I need to get back into madurai but vazarin makes life feel so good

[mighty flare]

new archgun changes makes naramon less useful than it already was

[charred gale]

Free strength and casting speed tho

[dreamy galleon]

Meh Im assuming dex arcanes are bugged on the archgun so I dont quite count them yet

Also I do want other options for my archguns but I suppose a melee heavy can abuse it for now

[proud anchor]

There is but it makes gaining stacks a lot easier

[mighty flare]

even if its bugged and patched, you can alr run dex mods on ur regular weapons
still makes naramon less and less useful

[sleek shale]

Um where do you get focus lenses I forgot

[proud anchor]

Ummm I believe bounty missions on any open world gives them out

I know you can buy some from bird 3 as well

[sleek shale]

Bird3?

[brazen grail]

Spoiler!

[novel bear]

Blueprints drop from some lua missions
Disruption and conjunction survival

[proud anchor]

You'll learn who they are from the whispers in the wall quest

[brazen grail]

Bounties and at least one vendor per hub.

Someone in Cetus, Someone in Fortuna, Someone in Spoiler, and another Someone in Spoiler.

[brazen grail]

It sounds like you should focus on high bounties in the Plains or the Orb.

[maiden belfry]

You right but I can just turn my brain off and be immortal with vazarin and it's funnn

[sleek shale]

How does Vasarin make you immortal?

[maiden belfry]

One of vazarin abilities gives you a shield that makes you invulnerable for roughly 4 seconds

On top of that you can dash at your Warframe and it makes the frame fully immune for 5 seconds and heal itself for a percentage of its max health

[brazen grail]

You can basically replicate it with mods now though.

[maiden belfry]

Yeah I just don't like shield gating so that's my fault xad

[brazen grail]

Free energy is my best friend.

It has nothing to do with shield gating.

I can't shield gate at all.

[maiden belfry]

Hmm then what are you suggesting? Cause as far as I know using adaptation and health tanking is kinda doodoo

[brazen grail]

I know I use Emergence Saviour or whatever.

Gimme a sec.

Actually, that's the one I was talking about.

On Lethal Damage: invulnerable for 5s and regain 60% health.

I cast undie!

[maiden belfry]

That arcane only makes your ||operator not die|| , vazarin helps make the Warframe immortal too that's the fun part

[brazen grail]

The more you learn to use your operator to save your Warframe, the better.

[sleek shale]

So I’ve had these for a while and I don’t know shit about rivens.
These are bad right

(Sry for shit quality had to improvise)

[maiden belfry]

I don't know anything about ANY of those weapons lol

[cobalt python]

The rolls aren’t horrible, but also aren’t the best of the best. The only one I’m a bit iffy on is Tazicor. It’s used as a Status Priming weapon. And the stats on yours aren’t the best for that. Other than that, the other two are fine.

[fathom sky]

I'll be more frank, 2/3 are terrible. Talons is a joke of a weapon, and Argonak's only use is Metal Augur (and even that is extremely niche). Even baring that, the stats on them right now aren't good enough to replace a mod that you'd put in a regular build for either anyway.

Tazicor could be better for priming, but -RS and nothing like +SC and an element it already does isn't useful.

[sleek shale]

So trash em?

[fathom sky]

The Talons and Argonak ones, yeah, unless you REALLY want to play those weapons. Could fuse them with two more Rivens you don't want to get a new one.

[near vortex]

Argonak riven might be good to make it able to kill stuff for Ceramic Dagger initial combo

Outside of that case though it's kinda bad

Shoulda gotten a Kuva Argonak

[maiden belfry]

224? 224 what? Strength? Duration? Amp? I'm so confused lol

[mighty flare]

You don’t really need to buff ceramic dagger for either build type

[fathom sky]

That's the least important part of trying to build him. All the stats you want (mostly str and dur with some range) are all things everything else in his kit wants anyway so you don't have to go out of your way to make him just an Overguard battery.

https://overframe.gg/build/638612/

[wooden silo]

Anyone can help get the mods for my bulid for xaku or wisp?

[vagrant sandal]

man, i kow its old news at this point but i just got around to building a primary tombfinger and this might be my new favorite for a while

[near vortex]

Not even for the Ninjase approved Gas Dagger build?

https://overframe.gg/build/468904/ceramic-dagger/ceramic-dagger-incarnon-x12-heavy-spam-blast-electric-nuke/

[winter halo]

So a weird thing.... been playing this game for a long time and forgot about Archon shards XD

So which ones am I placing on my tank prime rhino? I have been using the armour and shields/overguard build im new to this build

Because im unsure of which ones to use, or am I being silly and not realising its simplicity

[modest creek]

ive looked at a few different builds but thought i would come here too

is it best to build hildryn for strength or something else

i dont care about not being able to nuke everything in 1 shot either

[mighty flare]

The build literally says you can use something else

[mighty flare]

you always want high range, strength can be ~200%

[kindred haven]

do ya’ll have any ways to make the helminth charger survive more on sp?

dmg is fine lol

[sterile axle]

How can I make this build stronger ?

[kindred haven]

it’s not much, but maybe replace umbral intensify with blind rage. you’ll probably get enough energy with equilibrium, especially if u run a companion with synth deconstruct

[sterile axle]

Thank you

[crude delta]

has anyone figured out if secondary shiver is actually multiplicative on archguns?

idk how to test these things and my numbers seem weird

[mighty flare]

multico: velocitus, corvas prime, mandonel
multico, but bad coeff: arbucep, grattler, ayanga, larkspur alt-fire

[crude delta]

how about the mausolon?

cuz that's what i got rn and im testing

[mighty flare]

not multico, but good coeff for main-fire, bad coeff for alt-fire

want me to send you the list of all this stuff?

[crude delta]

yeah sure it'd be helpful

[crisp pine]

Anyone have modernized wisp build kicking around. Currently rocking sp 500% wisp but it will fail in an endurance run to level cap

[near vortex]

just jump
the solution to surviving level cap as Wisp

jump and use 2 when you attack

[crisp pine]

It is more that do i really need 500% abiltiy strength or can i build something else into it

Technically 350% + conditionals

[near vortex]

you need
to jump

perma invis on passive and your 2 should be a lot to keep you alive

And there is possibility for more strength too

like I don't know your mod config but it's possible to get upwards of 1000% strength with conditionals

There's a lot of conditionals there, but they exist

[crisp pine]

Roughly this but with surefootrd in place of constiution. I know there lot of benefit for attack speed and fire rate but i am not sure for health regen would any good at high levels of play near level cap.

[mighty flare]

no one would reccomend meme full str wisp for endurance

[grave cloak]

triumbral wisp oh my

[crisp pine]

It was what started out with from mid game before new war to archon hunts. This was one of my first builds honestly that got me through general sp. Need to be modernized though.

[crisp pine]

Wdym

[quiet laurel]

triumbral for lvl cap is useless

get shield gating up

and survive via constant shield gate + i-frames + invis

[crisp pine]

I was confused about the term triumbal that is all. I am aware of its problems.

[mighty flare]

wisp doesnt even shieldgate

[grim dome]

I just put in rifle elementalist for now but what would you put in that spot ? I do have a riven but ill have to go into the reroll mines for it

[quiet laurel]

I mean you can be invis or spam her 2 but having shield gate just adds to the QoL

and makes it more consistent over all

[mighty flare]

qol? NO! you WILL drop ALL comfortable for a 0.1% dmg increase !!!!

[near vortex]

Triumbral?

[crisp pine]

So the wisp that have is call trumbral wisp. That is news for me though.

[mighty flare]

:deadge:

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/tongue-swing-gif-14837596563859224828

[near vortex]

You have three umbral mods on

That's called triumbral

[grim dome]

if you go the invis route isnt it possible to die from a random stray bullet, even if it wasnt aimed at you

[mighty flare]

kid called will o wisp

[crisp pine]

Yeah i am sort of surpise people are throwing that term here. Never heard of it.

[quiet laurel]

its a pretty common term

thats also pretty shit on

cause triumbral is pretty eh for normal content builds

[near vortex]

There's like three frames that might be able to use it

Some frames do double umbral with umbral vitality for lack of a better mod slot

[crisp pine]

So in light of that. We could open design space for modernizing it. The build i have is old.

Yes i spent a large amount forma on this old frame

[mighty flare]

drop all transient fortitude, energy conversion, molt vigor, arcane energize, and all umbral mods except intensify
use equilibrium, archon stretch

stuff you can do:
(breach surge buffing) arcane arachne / vigorous swap, arcane crepuscular, worthy comradery, nourish
beef up duration
parkour exilus
beef up strength
beef up qol
use roar / eclipse / wa

wisp is good weapon platformer, best with exodia contagion zaws or glaives

[mighty flare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/708937439955255357/1357476033414041841/straightjorkinit.gif

[quiet laurel]

breach surge buffing so cringe

embrace braindead weapon platformer

[mighty flare]

yeah thats why chads do zaw wisp

[quiet laurel]

wisp slam

[mighty flare]

wisp __insert weapon here __

[crisp pine]

Wrathful advance?

Slam

[quiet laurel]

we talking about weapons?

[mighty flare]

no (yes)

[quiet laurel]

anything cause slam dmg is broken by itself already

I personally like xatas cause funny white numbers

[mighty flare]

real

[crisp pine]

Kek i got remake this old bird

Thanks. This likely easier to fix than the mesa

[quiet laurel]

mesa so much more investment for such cope performence

[mighty flare]

theres an easy fix actually

[quiet laurel]

yeah ik just dont play mesa

[mighty flare]

subsume over 4 :glueless:

[crisp pine]

I have decent performance but it just fold like piece of paper when its buffs run out and it be clunky. It has both eslipse and shatter sheild and still dies

[quiet laurel]

mesa eating half of your inventory to barely nuke a room while equinox just needs range and a weapon that doesnt suck and you clear whole tiles and enemies 2 tiles over

[quiet laurel]

can lazy gate

[lime shard]

What should I slot in for my last mod for wisp? (cursed asf build ik I'm going for high str and duration)

[crisp pine]

Yep and it tried it and try to make that work and it kept folding. Super uncomfortable to play. It likely will get fix once put on the charms ability from koumei.

[crisp pine]

That like beginnings of my old build lmao.

We were just talking a wisp build

[lime shard]

I saw now I'm second guessing umbras lol

[crisp pine]

God i have little experience with building a zaw. I have parts for plague zaw. I just do not know what to build for part.

[mighty flare]

Rabvee / Dokrahm + Seekalla + Vargeet II Jai

[crisp pine]

Okay. The other side of that is zaw build itself. Overframe is likely give subpar build again lmao.

[crisp pine]

Oh thankz that will help a lot

[mighty flare]

if eclipse then duplicates, if wa then exposure

[near vortex]

Any particular reason it's PPP over Sac Pressure, or sac steel over galv steel
I've never built a contagion Zaw so I'm kinda curious

[mighty flare]

duplicate threshold

[crisp pine]

Also fun fact about the old wisp build. Its wws made at a time 4-5 years ago when there more or less two or three builds of wisp basically

[dark bear]

990% more fire rate

[velvet pulsar]

Pistoleer?

[dark bear]

felarx

you don't need anything else other than fully unlocked felarx, you do need primary crux to 1) actually be able to shoot and 2) keep the buff up

[velvet pulsar]

I know felarx, I mean Pistoleer can make easier use of this than crux

Also Cyte and Garuda

[dark bear]

pistoleer would be nice but it gives less control than the evo imo

[inner sapphire]

how curse are we talking here?

[lime shard]

Abysmal range and high cost abilities lmao

I just use zenurik to regen energy though

[inner sapphire]

so i'd recomend amar's hatred for extra strength lmao but also to add onto that, whenever you use a heavy attack you tp'd to an enemy within a certain range so it makes it extra cursed lol

[lime shard]

Think umbral fiber is needed?

[high onyx]

hi, anyone have a good build for burston incarnon?

[mellow nest]

With your setup, it provides 20% additional damage reduction on health (42% -> 62%). Its not terribly useful on Steel Path difficulty imo

If I may ask, what is the duration used for in your build?

[lime shard]

What do you recommend I swap it out for?

[mellow nest]

Kinda depends really on what you want to achieve

[lime shard]

It's a personal thing really, I move a lot so the duration gets the mote buffs up to ~75s so I don't have to camp in one place and having to recast frequently when moving, same as roar (was using eclipse before)

[mellow nest]

I get that, yeah. With your setup youre likely not using Breach Surge at all right?

Remember that you can teleport to your motes with it btw

[lime shard]

It pairs sort of nicely with the fact that sometimes my squad doesn't want my buffs so having the range be really small forces you to actually walk into my buff if you want it lol

[mellow nest]

Do you know all of her hidden mechanics?

[lime shard]

Yeah, and also no I don't really use breach unless for teleporting yeah

[mellow nest]

I strongly recommend to go for more range here instead of dumping it. Archon Stretch is great to give you extra range and will also restore your energy the whole time

[lime shard]

I guess anything honestly, I never really struggled with surviving, the last time I remember dying was to squad radiation proc lmao

[mellow nest]

Right now it looks like youre using just half of her kit, which is fair. You can lvl it up easily with more range though and abusing the extra casts of Breach Surge from WillOWisp and the double ranged cast from teleporting to a mote

[lime shard]

Never thought about the extra energy regen from that but that does sound pretty comfy

[mellow nest]

Also check out the augment for her 4, if youre not subsuming

[lime shard]

I just read about it recently

Is it actually good?

[mellow nest]

From what I know, yeah

[lime shard]

I think I'll actually swap out umbral fiber with archon stretch though thanks

[mellow nest]

Sure

Check the augment in any case, its got a million hidden mechanics on it

It procs a ton of status, basically, aside the damage. Kinda want a bit of range though

[lime shard]

I see, looks interesting

Might make a whole different build around it if I like it lmao

[mellow nest]

You can also use Energy Conversion for +50% on the motes btw

And if you want to build around Sol Gate then check out Precision intensify

Although it shares a space with Umbral Intensify (or any other version)

[lime shard]

I just looked up what the augment looked like and icl that looks fun af lol

What does it want? Just strength and range?

[mellow nest]

It can just proc status if you dont have strength, but with your strength it doesnt really need any more

Range is important though, its 10 m base

Pretty sure it also retains the normal Breach Surge synergy for a chance of 100% to create a spark on an enemy when damaging them

[lime shard]

Sounds busted

[crisp yew]

gm

[lethal bison]

which shards should i use on chroma

[crisp yew]

anyone could give me a Quassus Prime Build?

[abstract cargo]

How do you build Nokko like what to prioritize?

Strength, range or Duration? or all of the above?

[crisp yew]

here

rotation 2-2-1-4 and 3 for regen shield

2 tau forged yellow casting speed, and 3 tau forged red strength

i hope i helped you

[velvet pulsar]

So there's even a rotation

[reef ocean]

does Arcane Impetus work wth any of Oberons abilities?

[fervent rapids]

Yes, but it'll only ever give one stack since he only inflicts one type of status effect

[reef ocean]

ah makes sense

[fervent rapids]

It's best used for frames like Citrine and especially Lavos who can inflict almost all types of status effects

[reef ocean]

btw Smite on Kullervo is broken

[midnight horizon]

You mean smite on anything

[reef ocean]

sure but pair it with Collective Cure

[twilit orchid]

what do you subsume on nokko 3?

[fervent rapids]

Nothing, his 3 lets him proc Crepuscular and that's huge

if any of his abilities should be infused over it's probably his 1

[twilit orchid]

what about archon shards?

cuz these sound huge

[pure gate]

Does arcange aegis make you invincible during its duration

[fervent rapids]

no, just boosts your passive shield regen rate

[twilit orchid]

hows this for his first ability

[simple pawn]

do i need to mod sevagoths shadow and claws? im playing nuke build that uses his one and 2 i have subsumed roar over his 4th

[sterile axle]

Can zephyr prime Nuke ?

[frigid bobcat]

guys i have 2 gold potato, which frame should i invest it in?

[fallow sandal]

Shade and Huras Kubrow proc crepuscular.

Here's what im working with. The corrosive stacks can be switched for more toxin damage tbh.

[twilit orchid]

how long does the huras make you invis

[grave cloak]

the invis lasts indefinitely until you use a weapon or if you're afk

[twilit orchid]

damn

this good enough for an invis build?

[grave cloak]

if you're using it purely for the invis then stalk is the only mod you will need

[woven drift]

what's a melee with a smooth stance/ heavy attack

[grave cloak]

falcor

[severe bough]

Roar/breach surge

[lethal bison]

i did some bits of researching

is cold ward actually better than heat ward on chroma?

[mellow nest]

Mathematically speaking, theyre pretty much equal

But if you throw in his 3 the Heat is better, since armor has diminishing returns. So if you dont subsume over it, go heat

[twilit orchid]

how do you guys place his musrooms?

[velvet pulsar]

On the ground, coz ofc u can't place it on walls & ceilings

[radiant gust]

Don’t you throw down his mushrooms or something? Idk I haven’t got him yet

[twilit orchid]

yea but i was asking if its better to keep them close or give some spacing

[velvet pulsar]

I think that depends on the map

Wherever enemies walk in

So that ur 4 can bounce near enemies

[gray quarry]

Cast his abilities

[latent adder]

Usually a bit of spacing

If youre camping then place at chokepoints

If your mobile then kinda doesnt matter

For a single target i pop 2 mushrooms side by side and make them bounce into each other constantly

[velvet pulsar]

I wonder if "parked warframe" after transference can still bounce on mushrooms

Also I wonder if resonator(with augment) or mallet can also bounce on it

[grim dome]

How would you improve this build ? the riven is toxin/ - recoil/crit damage and I do plan to drop speed trigger for primed shred after another forma

I am considering removing viral and going all in on crit and heat, but the issue there is maintaining status chance

granted im not entirely sure if id need a high status chance, so I guess I could give it a shot anyways, unfortunately I do not have hammer shot though

[grave cloak]

you could remove the thermite rounds since trumna has innate heat iirc

[grim dome]

yeah it does, thermite is just there for the status chance p much

[steady stirrup]

Temple pyrotechnics is good to subsume onto nezha right? Which ability do i replace?

[grave cloak]

1

[steady stirrup]

Ok yeah thought so, thank you

[charred cairn]

Any Frost users?

[mellow nest]

Every now and then

[charred cairn]

What’s a good build for him? I’ve been trying to bulk him enough to withstand the Zoriman while also making sure his abilities are effective

[grave cloak]

can't remember which ability is his subsume but replace whichever is his subsume ability(either 1 or 2) with breach surge

then just build for range

[charred cairn]

Breach Surge?

[mellow nest]

You dont have to, but you can use a subsume, yeah.
Range is great on everything but snow globe. Youll be mostly using his 4 to lock down the map and strip armor. Biting Frost will be your damage amplifier against affected enemies.
You can use Icy Avalanche to gain Overguard, which will act as your primary defense

Its Wisps 3, an explosion that infects enemies with a debuff that triggers sparks to attack enemies in range when the initial target gets damaged

[charred cairn]

Huh. Ok

[mellow nest]

Dont worry about subsumes for now, Id rather look into what you need on SP

Which is

• Survivability (Icy Avalanche)
• Armor Strip (Avalanche)
• Damage Amplification (Biting Frost)

Now to build for maximizing these. You can also use the other augments if you want and build for Ice Wave Impedance, which is imo underrated. Its just not as good as Avalanche is the issue

His passive also scales better with Avalanche, so its really all on that

[charred cairn]

I noticed the passive ability: increasing his armor by each cold effected or frozen enemy

That was there before and I’ve been playing the game for 10 years

[mellow nest]

Its 50 armor each. Armor has diminishing returns and only affects health damage, so its not a huge thing for him

Its useful for Snow Globe, since that scales with armor

You can stack globes btw, they get folded into one, making it stronger each time

[charred cairn]

So there’s not real need for me to add Armor mods on him because of his passive ability

?

[mellow nest]

That and because you want to be using Overguard from his 4 Augment anyways

Overguard also protects from procs like Poison and other status

[charred cairn]

Ho! That would be awesome to have. Where can I find that mod?

[mellow nest]

The main 6 syndicates, accessible on the Orbiter console left of navigation

Not all sell it but some. You can also trade for it

You most likely also want the Biting Frost Augment

[fervent rapids]

The codex should tell you which of them have it

[charred cairn]

Alright. I’ll have to definitely look into that

[mellow nest]

You can also see it when looking at the abilities

Theres a button for that now, in the warframe presentation screen

Or could be that its only showing the augments themselves

[fervent rapids]

only shows the augments, but that'll still be useful so you can search them up in the codex

[charred cairn]

I’ve only been working with Steel meridian to get the Frost mods

He’s pretty much been my go-to character for years. That and Trinity for survival

[grave cloak]

you can get good standing with 4 syndicates if you alternate your pledges correctly

2 syndicates will hate you forever but it's w/e

[charred cairn]

Hmm. Ok

[crisp merlin]

Hey y'all. Which arcanes would you all recommend for a valance formation build centered around buffing the grimoire?

Also any suggested tomes? I'm just using the shield Regen right now

[dense gate]

Would Dex Pixia benefit from red archon shards giving secondary critical or am I better off going for the flat ability strength for that sort of build?

[quiet laurel]

you are better off using enervate

for shards titania is very universal

[dense gate]

I slapped an increased effectiveness on energy orbs on her so I can ult more, and longer.

[dense gate]

Shooting Gallery on Titania (y/n)?

[mighty flare]

no

[velvet pulsar]

Enjoy

https://youtu.be/sVEKd_mjmkU?si=N-J920d6GIeQDz5a

Fly forever

[dense gate]

That'd require me removing some crit, and I'm not sure I want to.

[velvet pulsar]

Huh?

It's an exilus mod

[dense gate]

I'm using trick mag.

Should I not?

[velvet pulsar]

It doesn't affect dex pixia

Dex Pixia already has infinite ammo max, coz it's a battery weapon

[deep grotto]

I would understand if it was a mag capacity mod but
Trick mag on a gun with rechargable ammo??? 💀

[velvet pulsar]

Even mag cap is not required when u have Pistoleer

[dense gate]

It was just what someone told me way back when. Downside, I don't actually have energizing shot.

[velvet pulsar]

But yeah

[deep grotto]

Time to grind Arbis bigman

[dense gate]

Oh good, it's just from the Arbiters and not like... A puzzle room or something.

[velvet pulsar]

Arbi shop

[dense gate]

https://tenor.com/view/éowyn-i-am-no-man-no-man-lord-of-the-rings-lotr-gif-11834502

[deep grotto]

10/10 response honestly

[velvet pulsar]

Capcha: I am a robot! 🤖

[gray quarry]

Man no energizing shot hildryn

[velvet pulsar]

Too powerful

Her 4 spawns energy orbs

[gray quarry]

[gray quarry]

but they give pretty much nothing in shields

Atleast compared to her 2

[velvet pulsar]

Real reason is because most exalteds are AoE

[gray quarry]

Sad

[velvet pulsar]

Yet sporelacer can use it

[gray quarry]

When energizing shot on valkyrs talons

[tight sorrel]

Any Kullervo users here?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[tight sorrel]

I am currently searching for a kullervo build,Can i get your mod setup?

[gray quarry]

No

[tight sorrel]

Or do you have any reccomended youtubers with good kullervo builds?

[velvet pulsar]

Arcanes are truculence and augmented

[unreal dew]

I love truculence so much

[velvet pulsar]

I'm using roar on 4
I also have similar config but eclipse on 4 for glaives and exodia Contagion

[tight sorrel]

thank you very much,but as i dont have the primed mods,Do you think i can run Archon versions for now

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[gray quarry]

Archon/base if you don’t have primed

[velvet pulsar]

Also Coaction Drift isn't necessary

[gray quarry]

need to pin that tbh

[velvet pulsar]

Mecha deals overkill dmg

[unreal dew]

Ok so I have a question for rhino, I gotta pick two arcanes, which of these three should it be?

Arcane Truculence
Molt Augmented
Arcane Battery

[mighty flare]

battery and augmented

[gray quarry]

Augmented and battery

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah coz viral primer companions

[mighty flare]

truculence is pretty meh in general

[tight sorrel]

Do you know of any replacements i could use instead of the mecha mods for now

[unreal dew]

I like it on frost methinks

[gray quarry]

And cedo

[mighty flare]

it would be more useful if not for modern wf being a viral jungle

[velvet pulsar]

Can use more strength or range instead of mecha pulse ig

Mecha aura mod, can use corrosive projection, or even loot ladar TBH

Sprint Speed aura is nice but kullervo has teleportation

[tight sorrel]

Thank you very much,I hope you have a good day.

[velvet pulsar]

I'll save this blessing for next morning.
Thx.

[deep grotto]

@wooden flax you can drop your builds here

[wooden flax]

but i play on switch

so how i do that

[gray quarry]

Take picture with phone, post picture here from phone

[deep grotto]

Just take a screenshot of your mods bro

Unless Nintendo obliterated sending console screenshots to ur phone

Ik people wanna suggest all sorts of meta builds but imma drop a friend’s config first because i imagine it’d be easier to hit

[gray quarry]

Nu uh, only meta

[crisp birch]

hi i am looking to build my saryn

any help :>

[deep grotto]

@wooden flax do you have the funny pictures yet good sir

[unreal dew]

What level of the game are you at? Normal star chart? Steel path? Just started yesterday and saryn looked cool so you bought her?

[crisp birch]

im in steel path i have her prime but im having survivalbility issues

[granite ginkgo]

ever try shield gatin? it mainly spam her molt

[crisp birch]

really?

[granite ginkgo]

yea her molt detonate when u recast again, so u got radial aoe tox proc there

by recast, using the brief respite aura mod, u basically energy = shield regen

[unreal dew]

People usually try some form of crowd control and shield gating for her survivability

[granite ginkgo]

either shield gatin or helminth

[crisp birch]

what kind of helminth?

[granite ginkgo]

option is nova or sevagoth

[crisp birch]

i forgot but what is novas subsume

[granite ginkgo]

her 1st skill, the antimatter orb

it got damage reduction

in SP tho saryn 4th is one u should subsume

damage scaling stop after enemy reach lvl 200, u just stun them instead

[wild rune]

pocket sand

[crisp birch]

is her 4 that bad

what about archon shards

[granite ginkgo]

1 speed cast
and dur or str, none of the shard benefit saryn proc - unless u wanna invest archon cont. on her molt

[wild rune]

Miasma doesn't scale like Spores do, so it eventually hits a wall and just becomes a flashbang more than anything

[granite ginkgo]

the the corro stack shard is to go

[crisp birch]

so nullstar with 1 cast speed 1 strengh 1 duration 2 toxin dmg ?

or do u mean max stack ? or dmg on corrosive enemies

[granite ginkgo]

i just send u the link and think about ithttps://overframe.gg/build/207018/saryn-prime/venomous-spores-saryn-steel-path-general-use/

[granite ginkgo]

it convert molt tox dmg to corro dmg

[crisp birch]

i meant the shards

[granite ginkgo]

w 1 emerald shard, u can armor strip in 1 single recast of molt

[crisp birch]

so 1 eme shard on corrosive stacks?

[granite ginkgo]

yea, it multiplicative toward right the toxic proc

[crisp birch]

oh kk

[granite ginkgo]

as long u got 1 tau emerald shard, the stack, any corro proc activate this

[crisp birch]

the 3 other is 3 toxin dmg

[granite ginkgo]

up to u, i build saryn by subsume her 4th to roar - her build focus on weapon platform

[crisp birch]

from what im reading nourish/roar is best on 4 slot

[granite ginkgo]

yea then again u want to invest into weapon

[mighty flare]

Roar pulls ahead by a lot

[crisp birch]

?

i got a few good ones i think

[mighty flare]

Saryn can give her weapons corrosive damage, so you can build viral with larger boost from roar

[granite ginkgo]

if u not build toward galv. mod, u might want to re-modding back

[crisp birch]

i got galv mofs

so a build like this?

[granite ginkgo]

since u put brief respite and cataclyzing shield, u can remove the vigilante and fast deflection mod

u want to equip augur message and prime cont.

for weapon buff dur

as for augur, it have similar increase passive like brief respite, energy = shield

[velvet pulsar]

Hold on

If u use augur with cata shields, brief respite becomes useless

Coz cata shields current state

So replace brief respite too

[crisp birch]

growing power ig

[granite ginkgo]

40% from augur and 150% from brief respite, so yea u can swap those aura mod

[thorny lintel]

guys i want to join the slam fiesta but i cant afford a magistar riven will coda mire be a good replacement

[near vortex]

you don't need a riven for Magistar to be good

I run rivenless magistar and it performs well

[granite ginkgo]

u want to get the seimis mod tho, not the riven

[mighty flare]

Don’t need riven, want seismic wave and nira mods, Magistar is raw dmg slam while coda more is afflictions slammer

[wooden flax]

What should i change?

[granite ginkgo]

get 2 augment mod of sevagoth, u dont need to include the blind rage

sec i think there thread for seva

[wooden flax]

Thread?

[granite ginkgo]

https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1429852785251455016

[thorny lintel]

for lvl cap too?

[thorny lintel]

k thx guys

[mighty flare]

riven makes performance much easier but for regular gameplay ur fine

[thorny lintel]

i see

[fallow sandal]

I like Null Star with the augment.

[quiet laurel]

magistar cap needs a riven to one shot thraxes without priming and strip

so magicap without riven would make things somewhat more annoying

[mighty flare]

Yeah 👍

Never needed one personally since I stick to Tazicor like glue

[deep grotto]

I was about to ask if Sancti is worth using the riven on but it has literally a 0.05 decrease in dispo

[sterile axle]

Is roar mandatory for sevagoth shadow build ?

[mighty flare]

For nuking without priming yeah

[winter lodge]

Someone more experienced with Gauss, could Tell me If it is possible tô do Lv cap with Build with focus in nuking? Like If the creep enemies at least die from the skills

[ancient urchin]

Got lucky enough to get an invigoration override with 200% more ability strength on Nokko and tried to get for highest Roar buff possible.
Had a Nidus spectre as well and used Madurai dash strength bonus during a relic ability strength buff.

Has anyone seen an even higher roar buff through nokko yet (achievable solo)?

Or is there another frame that can achieve an even higher roar in general with the subsumed version?

[near vortex]

nidus

Nidus can hit some egregiously high roars

[ancient urchin]

As in putting roar on just nidus himself then?

[near vortex]

yeah

[near vortex]

I'm assuming you did that with fissure buff

[ancient urchin]

yeah I mentioned the relic ability strength buff, should have said fissure instead of relic 😄

[near vortex]

Oh yeah then Nidus could absolutely go higher

[ancient urchin]

but yeah of course nidus would make more sense since the link is uncapped for him instead of the spectre version, no clue why I forgot that

[near vortex]

Nidus plus Nokko sounds like a very strong duo

Biggest strength snapshots in history

Nidus Nokko Wisp and insert frame here

[ancient urchin]

Equinox for the giga nuke

or maybe jade for even more ability strength

[grim ether]

i have 2 green tau shards, 2 red tau shards and a yellow tau shard on lavos. im considering making the yellow a green, i have 30 percent ability damage on corrosive status'd enemies

[midnight horizon]

Chat how does valence formation work

[grim ether]

uh if you put toxin as the status, itll apply toxin to your weapons

it just applies what ever status you choose to your weapon

[midnight horizon]

Huh. That's neat

[grim ether]

it does infact say that in the description

[novel bear]

200% elemental damage as a second damage instance with forced procs

[crisp pine]

any thoughts on the current build of mesa as i am having problem with this thing not suriving in eta with all buff up.

[queen parcel]

does pistol acuity affect the multishot of the kunai incarnon mode base multishot of 2?

[novel bear]

It shouldn’t

It prevents modding for multishot

[fathom sky]

It locks the weapon to their base MS, it doesn't set it to one.

[lost hull]

Couple problems
you are not getting anything out of archon continuity besides the duration at a more expensive cost.
You are not maxing out your survival abilities
Your weapon elements are weighted wrong

Swap adaptation for a r0 version, archon continuity for primed, swap on normal intensify, swap energize out for velocity. On the gun swap your crit chance mod for the corrupted version and the electric for the dual stat.

Max your mods, you've got enough to forma if need be (adaptation doesn't count in this statement)

Also note, corrosive is less needed now, viral will usually get you further

[crisp pine]

One day I will get enough forma to max out my mods. Oh I misread continuity I thought I got toxin for corrosive lmao. why r0 on adaptation?

[lost hull]

You can still get the full dr, it just takes a little longer

[crisp pine]

for dual stat is that something like hollow point or more like 60/60 mod?

[lost hull]

6060

[crisp pine]

would you also recommend keeping esclipe or is there better heminth?

[lost hull]

It's good still, though there are some options: nourish, nokkos subsume, jades subsume, roar and others I can't name off the top of my head

Your current build wasn't really making the best use of it defensively or offensively but you can stack the dr on both mesas and eclipse and she should have zero problems survival wise

[timid glacier]

do you guys have a nice build for the Proboscis Cernos? not sure if I should follow the ones in Overframe

[lost hull]

Haven't used it enough or know the wonkyness off hand

[wanton widget]

Stug build... I know that this is a gun I really should not invest into, but I have the gun with 6 forma, I have the riven. I can violate steel path with it currently. Why not unlock it's max potential. Just gotta roll a toxin riven with damage and multishot.

[mighty flare]

mostly used for just utility now, if you meant dps then its just ms + electric

weapon just suffers from poor stats

[timid glacier]

Oh, that's sad, thought I finally got a good aoe bow, since I hace no luck neither patiance for the lichies

[mighty flare]

do you have the nataruk?

[timid glacier]

yep

[mighty flare]

much better bow that one is

[wanton widget]

Bramma, Paris Prime Incarnon and the Nataruk are your nuke bows.

[timid glacier]

Yeah not going to farm Bramma anytime soon, I have Paris Prime Incarnon (just suffer to hit it's headshots some times) and Nataruk
might have the Dread Incarnon too

[wanton widget]

Bramma is worth the effort imo. I am currently having to wait to get the Incarnon form for the Paris. The Nataruk was not all that special to me for some reason.

[wanton widget]

There is another route you can go... You can also go the split flights route with either the Mutalist Cerno built for gas... or a Cernos Prime built for cold and Shivering Contagion + Split Flights if you want something more CC type of AoE.

[lost hull]

The dread, Paris and the quest bow, are all good

Woops slow scrollin

[wanton widget]

My Contagion Cernos... Just apply Shivering Contagion to your Sentinel's weapon and let'r rip. Split flights inverses the spread on the Cernos Prime's Vertical and Horizontal Firing patterns. The Riven is a Crit Chance and impact riven and can be replaced with Heavy Caliber, Any Bane Mod of your choice, Hammer Shot, Prime Shred and or Metal Auger for some punch through, thus spreading the cold procs further. Use Standard Serration over spectral unless you intend to go stealth. Just sharing if you are interested. @timid glacier

[radiant pecan]

Looking at app . Is my Nekros immortal tank modding good?

[wanton widget]

Are Multishot Arcanes negated by Acuity?

[onyx axle]

which riven should i pick

[storm grotto]

umm im playing sevagoth and i can nuke if i have a full bar but balancing the nuke and gloom sometimes i dont have any energy sustain, any tips?

[onyx axle]

yellow efficiency shards or maybe blues?

[storm grotto]

he has 2 casting speed 1 str 1 energy max and 1 equilibrium and i still get cooked all tau btw

[carmine dew]

sevagoth is just a very energy hungry frame in general

[onyx axle]

maybe sub a casting sped for efficiency

[mighty flare]

turn off gloom time to time and run dethcube

[carmine dew]

use arcane energize if you have it

[grave cloak]

I'd go with right

[storm grotto]

tyty

[ivory yoke]

Anyone have any cool bills for the full forma alchemist?

[near edge]

can summoners wrath apply to xakus guns?

[violet silo]

trying to mod a kuva sobek for oraxia, but my progenitor element is electricity. this worked well for cyte, who I originally got the sobek for, but how do I mod this for oraxia if the electricity combines to make corrosive while cold and heat just make elec+gas or elec+viral?

[mighty flare]

you can mod for corrosive on oraxia sobek if you use nourish
otherwise, i'd reccomend swapping over to cold to make viral on oraxia and magnetic for cyte

[violet silo]

need an elemental vice for that, right?

[mighty flare]

yes or combine it with a cold sobek

[granite ginkgo]

or get new sobek entirely lmao

[mighty flare]

also i might be misinterpreting what you mean, but progen element doesnt apply to lash abilities like cyte/oraxia/saryn, an electric sobek is not more effective than a cold/magnetic sobek

ppl swap between magnetic to fit whatever, or cold for single-slot viral on oraxia/saryn and single-slot magnetic on cyte (synergizes with nourish subsume for mag+electric+viral)

[mellow nest]

Toxic Lash and such dont combine with weapon elements anymore I dont think

[mighty flare]

what

do you mean element mods or progen elements

[mellow nest]

It read like you meant they combine with the elemental mods, but I see what you mean now

[granite ginkgo]

what the yoda talking

oh nvm

[rancid moat]

really?

[severe bough]

Arent the sobek builds for all 3 almost the exact same with mag progi? Or did smth changed in time with the new update

[mighty flare]

ur ass better not being cyte sobek like saryn/oraxia sobek :glorp:
you dont need pcr either, better mods to improve ttk when ur alr using element mods for lash

[severe bough]

Cyte sobek was always different from sayrn/oraxia but are the builds still the same ninjase got or did they changed?

[mighty flare]

idk ninjase build

[severe bough]

Do you have your Builds by any chance? might need to take a look again if theres smth new i only remember playing either elc viral/coro with mag progi

[mighty flare]

after a point you just care about improving ttk rather than chain strength
clip flex for whatever, i sometimes use tact pump
cold progen for viral/corro sobek

[mighty flare]

cold progen for mag sobek + nourish cyte with tempo + reinforced :glorp:

i only care for mag strafe on oraxia cuz of how ass she feels compared to cyte/saryn

[severe bough]

Thats the one for sayrn second one for cycte ?

Because i think i got mag progi on it instead of cold so i can safe the mag mod and mod for smth else instead

[modest creek]

sorry for the terrible screen pics but im kind of hitting a wall here in terms of steelpath

my balefire is quite good for steelpath but im struggling to fight things like acolytes

current build on my hildryn

[severe bough]

Ye i got mag progi instead of cold why is that so we take cold progi to save slots to make viral?

https://overframe.gg/build/668084/kuva-sobek/saryn-oraxia-arsenal-acid-shells-nuke-kuva-sobek/
thats the one from ninjase

[grave cloak]

I'd take out archon vitality and boreal's hatred and replace them with overextended and augur reach respectively. Also replace avenger with molt augmented or molt efficiency, not sure how avenger is helping you there?

[grave cloak]

I'd also replace magnum force there with a crit damage mod, stacking it with hornet strike and augur pact is not very poggers

[pure gate]

Whats a good alternative to Primed Sure footed? Should I go with Wyrm?