builds-discussion

[pale belfry]

such a clown that DE set this sht still so high, lmao

[lethal bison]

where is my primed shocking touch

[radiant cradle]

i've completed all of the quests until this update drops, MR28, and currently just working on collecting and mastering equipment

[pale belfry]

maybe next baro, there is something new, probably

[severe bough]

Is my primed hellfire for rifles

[pale belfry]

well, still a long way to go

[radiant cradle]

i've dabbled in steel path but not by much

[pale belfry]

we gonna archive LR6 cap soon

[mellow nest]

Very good. You can tag people when replying btw, I wouldnt worry about it

[severe bough]

List including all of those Not explained mechns in the game? Because i might (if you can send me) because there still people that tell missinformation that makes me really angry sometimes

[pale belfry]

Watching youtube

some channel will test and caculate for you

or use wiki as main source to know the mechanic

[severe bough]

Hell nah im not watching youtube

Unless i wanna lose my sanity

[pale belfry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKRGoQr4b04&t=25s

some channel got goood knowdlegde to use

[mellow nest]

No, its research topics or things to focus on like how to mod, whats a railjack, whats helminth, which syndicates are there, etc.

If you get angry from others talking on the internet then maybe take a step back from it and try to resolve it calmly, as they might just not know any better

[radiant cradle]

i do know about the railjack, helminth, and syndicates, but some modding advice is never frowned upon

[pale belfry]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Damage/Corrosive_Damage

[radiant cradle]

might wait and see what this modding tutorial quest is about first though

[pale belfry]

math already show off

[undone dust]

i hope it's not a half assed explanation tbh

[pale belfry]

all you need is take a look and test the dmg output

[mellow nest]

If youre already this far then it might not help that much but here it is. Its basically just topics to know about and to progress your account/yourself in the game

@radiant cradle

[radiant cradle]

even if i can't use it i'm sharing all this with a friend who can also learn from it

[severe bough]

Not the type of angry that i smash smth i just cant withstand it when people tell people smth wrong which is so obvis and if u try to tell them they are the first ones getting angry (my type of angry is more like a calm angry)

[mellow nest]

Essential Research Topics
BEGINNER:

• How do I use Movement Tricks?
• How to mod weapons/warframes (basics)?
• Which Mods to rank up first?
• Where do I get new Warframes and Weapons?
• How do Crafting and Blueprints work?
• Which weapons can I safely sell?
• When to use an Orokin Reactor/Catalyst?
• Whats is the Mastery Rank (MR) and why is it important?
• How can I use Relics to get Prime Items?
• What are the basics of Trading with players?
• What are the main 6 Syndicates and why are they useful to me?

INTERMEDIATE:

• Where can I get Credits/Endo?
• How can I prepare for the next Quests / figure out a good pace?
• Which additional Syndicates are there and what can I get from them (e.g. free roam syndicates)?
• How do I build for and use Elemental Combos against the enemy factions?
• What is Forma?
• How to add Survivability to my Warframe?
• What are my Goals/Next Steps (weapons/items/quests)?
• Should I invest more into certain items (warframes/weapons)?
• How do I improve my Operator?
• What is Duviri and how does The Circuit benefit me?
• What is a Railjack and should I get one?
• What's the Helminth?
• Which mods should I have before moving on to lategame content?

ADVANCED:

• How do I get Lategame Mods?
• What do I struggle with specifically?
• How can I improve my builds?
• How can I fare better in Steel Path?
• How does Shield Gating work?
• What are Archon Shards and how can I use them for my builds?
• What are Arcanes and when should I use/get them?
• How can I use trading effectively to secure a platinum income?
• Which other things can I do to prepare for events and specific content (e.g. Railjack, Necramech, Event Gear and Warframes, Aya)

Made in collaboration with Valkhyron

[pale belfry]

Then better checkin wiki

instead of hearing them

If you dont trust me either, wiki is your best friend after all

some exploit wont show on wiki and internet

you may need to find it by testing

there is simu room in the game anyway

[undone dust]

ive spent SO much time in the sim lately

[radiant cradle]

is there a link to this you can share somewhere? i'm pretty sure i only need some of the intermediate and the advanced stuff but all of the resources wouldn't be bad

[mellow nest]

I can dm it to you, but its not on any other platform or smth

[radiant cradle]

that works

[pale belfry]

bad thing that DE wont let people summon some unit

i really want to try it

and beside that, enemy level in simu room scale with player MR

lmao

[mellow nest]

I also have a list for mods based on where you are in the game and an explanation on how Shield Gating works

[lethal bison]

need to send this to rev mains yknow

[mellow nest]

Lmao

[undone dust]

shield gate rev is the method.. trust

[radiant cradle]

you can just send it all to me if you want, i'll be organizing it into a forum channel on a server my friend and i use to keep track of warframe stuff

[mellow nest]

Sure thing

[visual kettle]

Why

[severe bough]

I always check the wiki or i think by myself but ive meet people which basically represtents yt ( i dont mean all yt vids there some rare vids that are good) they tell thats the best build in the hole game but forget about certain things that are easy to think about or easy to read about in wiki i get it when people dont mess with the hole modding system that deep but if u forget the most simple things if some mods dont work if the weapon has unique feature etc and then say its the best build in the game that what tweeks me a bit because of how most players react i dont even instandly say "u should do that or that" i just ask if the want a modding tip and the get angry for no reason what did i do

[pale belfry]

just check the gameplay, even better if they explain with math

thats all

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Condition_Overload_(Mechanic)
there is also a page you could check if a feature work or not, normal

for example,nataruk

some people think nataruk is aoe weapon so its cant use gunCO

[severe bough]

Dont say that im gonna get flashbacks

[undone dust]

i love that nat's arrow is just so fat that people think it's aoe (i used to be one of those people 💔)

[severe bough]

I remembered the day i think it was meat explaining me gunCO mech for incarnon weapons

[undone dust]

oh yeah, isn't it wonky with some incarnon perks?

[severe bough]

Base dmg inc perks yes

How thankfull i am of some people here that they explained all that mechs because after i heared of all that i just got more exicited to do more into modding

Never was that type of fashion person all my frames are gold an white

[lethal bison]

str + hp + armour that stacks together

[mellow nest]

Its good on some frames, yeah

Umbral Intensify is good on most frames

[lethal bison]

anywhos, i read this https://overframe.gg/build/390077/excalibur/the-thunderous-blade-excalibur-slash-dash-exalted-blade-influence-nuke-updated-2025

and i have some thoughts like

no duration mods?

also the strength is piss low

[radiant cradle]

well it's mainly using the exalted blade, so it needs efficiency and not duration right?

[lethal bison]

you would usually want duration

[radiant cradle]

and exalted blade probably has its own build for this

[lethal bison]

both is best case

[mellow nest]

Channeled abilities gain efficiency from duration. If you hover over the efficiency stat it will display a second line for channeled abilities

[radiant cradle]

i see, i might have to review my umbra build then

can i just share my build here for suggestions btw?

[lethal bison]

triple umbrals + primed flow and primed continuity + chromatic blade is a must for umbra

last 2 slots are flexible

[radiant cradle]

ik i have triple umbrals and primed flow, idr if i have chromatic blade or primed continuity

[lethal bison]

for me i run furious javelin + stretch for the 2 slots

[radiant cradle]

let me check the companion app

[mellow nest]

You can use Archon Continunity instead of primed aswell. It isnt worth it to buy primed if you can spare 1 mod capacity (or 2 with no polarity used)

[lethal bison]

i used to flex my omni slots with triple umbrals + triple archons lol

[lethal bison]

well you would at least want chromatic blade, a qol mod

furious javelin is optional, i personally like it because it's a final multiplier

surging dash is dogpiss don't even try it

[mellow nest]

I can give you the Chromatic Blade mod tomorrow, if you still need it by then

[lethal bison]

you don't need shields for a triple umbrals setup

[lethal bison]

it's in steel meridian right

[radiant cradle]

i have chromatic blade already, but i appreciate it! i try to collect everything i can, mods especially

[lethal bison]

for defensive mods you should use either adaptation or rolling guard

[radiant cradle]

not both?

[haughty sparrow]

I just realized something,it takes 5 corrosive procs to do the armour strip of 1 heat proc (not calling it a bad damage type btw)

[lethal bison]

both is quite not necessary

[little sphinx]

manadol or kuva grattler

i need to know before i choose which to bring out of the foundery

[lethal bison]

for your builds above, if you want to keep triple umbrals, then use rolling guard imo

[mellow nest]

And Hexis

[lethal bison]

drop adaptation and redirection for primed continuity and chromatic blade

[radiant cradle]

i am a fan of it since i roll around a lot naturally

[lethal bison]

then you are good to go

for quite all the contents

[radiant cradle]

let me launch real quick to check that and my exalted blade build too

[lethal bison]

i will assume you use a double sacrificials setup

then go for the 2 sacrificial mods, condition overload, blood rush, weeping wounds, galvanized elementalist for a base

then 1 electricity mod of your choice (90 or 60/60) and 1 attack speed mod (fury, quickening, gladiator vice)

[radiant cradle]

no primed continuity, but i was able to do regular

[pale belfry]

both are different things

[lethal bison]

you might want to use melee influence

[haughty sparrow]

I know corrosive has the better faction damage bonuses (grineer,kuva grineer, and scaldra all being armoured factions)

[radiant cradle]

i don't have that one currently

[lethal bison]

chromatic blade with electricity + melee influence will nuke the room

[haughty sparrow]

Plus a higher armour strip

[radiant cradle]

retaliation, afflictions, doughty, and vortex is my melee list

[pale belfry]

both work as different role, heat could run as a DOT dmg and even good with heat inherit mechanic

[lethal bison]

drop primed reach for attack speed my g exalted blade is literally a bluetooth sword

[pale belfry]

corro is an extra dmg type work like other role like strip armor, reduce armor, ...

[lethal bison]

and magnetic rush is not needed now that you have real attack speed mod, swap it out for weeping wounds

[radiant cradle]

no weeping wounds either 🥀

[lethal bison]

at 12x melee combo counter + max galvanized elementalist stacks + max weeping wounds stacks you can hit enemies with 3-4 statuses per hit

[radiant cradle]

currently both sacrificial, p. fury, blood rush, and condition overload

i don't have galvanized elementalist either

[lethal bison]

condition overload, blood rush, weeping wounds are all farmable at deimos bounty afai remember

[radiant cradle]

i do have regular elementalist though

[lethal bison]

galvanized elementalist is obtainable via arbitration honors

[radiant cradle]

i can get that one easily then

[lethal bison]

if you are running a no sacrificial setup though (which has higher efficiency imo)

wait let me turn on the game real quick

it's time for the update anyway

[latent forum]

Anyone have any idea how to build the new Oberon?

[lunar gale]

so brief respite + catalyzing shields for nokko ?

[little sphinx]

arcane battery is so ideal, its not even funny

[errant blade]

I heard someone talking about Blessing+Bellicose
Personally I'm running Battery+Fallout

[little sphinx]

love having energy

[rapid escarp]

Build chat. Are nokkos mushrooms considered spawns? Like summoners wrath and camisado works or no?

[lunar gale]

battery + fallout def the new go to for oberon

[little sphinx]

very reasonable

im using augmented over fallout atm

no r5 yet

im using nourish so it doesnt matter

[karmic mist]

I am stuck at work, is the Armor bonus from Renewal for Oberon using his current Armor (after mods) or Base Armor (so 450 for Prime)? If Current Armor it makes an Umbra Set strong on him.

[little sphinx]

i didn't even hit any enemies with his 4 and i got max battery LOL

hmm, thornbak

[clear crest]

Yo what yall think should i helminth over nokko 1st or 4th?

[astral tinsel]

seems to be multiplicative after everything else, including flat bonuses from reckoning, health conversion etc

[lethal bison]

gang for cascade (relic ver) which faction mod should we use? grineer or orokin?

[clear crest]

imo grineer still cause orokin only spawn when rifts spawn

so i say grineer since thats the main enemy

[vagrant sandal]

smite seems pretty meh so i'm thinking breach surge + hallowed ground might be fun

[formal vector]

which would be better generally speaking?

[fathom sky]

I'd go left but wait for a second opinion

[velvet pulsar]

Smite removes above 60% HP
Dread Mirror removes all HP below 40%
Dread Ward augment makes her unkillable by this combo.
https://youtu.be/MEokzgzZ9I4?si=RgcGyHHh8llcqy10

[vagrant sandal]

cool but that's not oberon

[velvet pulsar]

FYI:
Protea's Blaze Artillery has been stealth nerfed.

The base duration is tripled but the damage has been reduced from 500 to 50.
The augment took worst hit, still capped at 20.

[formal vector]

500 to 50? jesus christ

[velvet pulsar]

I hate this update.
Several shiny baits on the outside, horrible "fixes" in the inside

Even the intended good things are mostly unplayable

[severe bough]

So whats about oberon now survivalbilty through shield gate or smth else ? Also i heared noko shield gate and panic button is his fungi form? I didnt looked into the updated yet

[velvet pulsar]

Wall latch has been completely deleted from the game

[severe bough]

Wait what

[velvet pulsar]

I don't remember any update this year has been worse than this

[severe bough]

What changed to the dark side ?

[mighty flare]

gating yes

[severe bough]

Both or one of the 2

Ah so invu gating

[velvet pulsar]

Protea's Blaze Artillery stealth nerf
Wall Latch deletion
Ivara gets another unwanted change
Console players having unplayable mouse and keyboard.
Hell even new UI is horrible

More bugs listed by megazawr

This is likely the worst update of the year

Even visual changes are horrible

[formal vector]

omg he's right. There's no more wall latch 💀

[severe bough]

Oh hell nah

Im probably gonna wait till Tomorrow

[formal vector]

yeah might be bugged instead of a genuine change tbh

[velvet pulsar]

Braindead survivability

[hard hatch]

Looking for opinions, what to do with this exilus adapter.

1. Praedos for tennokai
2. Vadarya Prime for recoil reduction

[formal vector]

Blaze Artillery is definitely cooked I can confirm.

[fallow ice]

what mods i need to look for to increase dmg of this build?

[severe bough]

Meaning basically nothing really for modding you just use the panic button with his fungi form?

To probably cleanse every status and be invu

[velvet pulsar]

This isn't just invulnerability

It straight up says "untargetable"

Like it's a next tier to invulnerability

The consequences?
U can't use ur abilities or weapons in this form

[deep grotto]

Hm
Anyone know how the MR requirements for riven mods are set?

Or is it the same as everything else and just RNG?

[velvet pulsar]

*PRNG

[deep grotto]

Buh?

[velvet pulsar]

Pseudo RNG

It's still possible to predict it, but very very difficult

[signal saffron]

i swear there is a acceltra prime out

[velvet pulsar]

I managed to coincide this twice in my warframe history, when I managed to roll a riven for my desired weapon

[signal saffron]

yo @fallow ice dm me i'll help u out with some good stuff

[mighty flare]

btw

[velvet pulsar]

Worst. Update. Of. The. Year.

I'm not even gonna bother playing this buggy mess until they come to their senses for some next hotfixes.

[mighty flare]

i just find it funny the ad changes make acuity worse for demos

DE really hates acuity

[velvet pulsar]

Ad changes?

[mighty flare]

attenuation on demos

[velvet pulsar]

They really can't let weakpoint hits ignore attenuation...

[mighty flare]

its plaguestar rules

high ms and high fire rate

de was preparing us

[velvet pulsar]

And they fixed verdilac too

We're gonna take away the easiest thing which made attenuation trivial BEFORE you get to try our new attenuation

[inland vale]

aight so. how do i build oberon??

[tender vine]

looking for a good oberon build

[velvet pulsar]

Anyone who's searching for Oberon builds, for now, try one config with Voruna subsume and melee spam

Become unkillable melee platform

[inland vale]

i dont have voruna so...

[velvet pulsar]

There's also probably high strength roar + smite

[inland vale]

i can build him w melee + some ability strength & range...? does his kit scale off of armor, like frost's??

[near vortex]

Does Furis at least still melt demos

[velvet pulsar]

U can try against archons

All attenuation follows same rule now

Hence if ur DoTs can kill them, then it can kill demos

[mighty flare]

Just mirage it bro

[velvet pulsar]

Raw dmg?

[mighty flare]

Yeah

[velvet pulsar]

The guy's asking about furis

[mighty flare]

Raw corro furis

[formal vector]

Just read that the Blaze Artillery changes are unintentional. Dodged a bullet there

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah if player outrage is loud, it gets unintended immediately

[formal vector]

Our girl isn’t cooked. Hallelujah

[velvet pulsar]

Too bad it isn't loud enough for Ivara

[mighty flare]

Ivara victim of not being popular

[mighty flare]

Oh demo changes means expedite suffering is genuinely cooked

No more 😔

[mellow nest]

@velvet pulsar what do you think of this with the new Tharros Strike Augment on Voruna? Well, if you play her anyways
https://overframe.gg/build/908687/

You can cut one forma if you dont use Archon Stretch and 2 if you slot another aura.
Can reach 200% Power in multiple ways, its needed for 100% armor strip

[near vortex]

Expedite doesn't work on heat procs
It's just slash and tox iirc

[velvet pulsar]

Is that flat CD?

Or does it multiply final value?

[mellow nest]

The Tharros Augment? Idk, havent really found anything on it yet

[dense geode]

What subsume is best on Excalibur? All my friends be telling me different answers

[gritty hound]

Does the new lavos augment keep the cooldown reduction when it comes back?

[mighty flare]

Yes and it’s dead in the water

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

Unless it's bugged

[gritty hound]

Hmmm could replace swift bite if it works as advertised

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah 3 is the original ability for cooldown reduction anyway

I wonder if this allows evade lavos with melees

[fallen ermine]

Has anyone tried tox dot build nokko, i ran a crit one and its good but kinda slow ttk https://youtu.be/uKoA7CBnDUc?si=FbdK5CVOwPPnODMD

[severe bough]

So even more op ?

Man i need to look at him Tomorrow def

The hole update

[grave cloak]

Lycath's hunt

[ember condor]

Depends. What build do you want for your Excalibur?

[midnight horizon]

It's usually roar if not wrathful cuz his best build uses melee influence anyway

[gloomy apex]

I need help building a strun prime crit build with cold. Any suggestions or builds?

[faint harbor]

Hi guys, I'm somewhat new to the game and was following a build for ember (I really enjoy her). As soon as I entered steel path I suddenly do no damage ;-; I'm almost full build from overframe and it feels really bad. Could anyone help me out please ?

[gloomy apex]

I don't know much for ember but early steel path most ability strength means nothing since high health and armor so mostly work on survival and making ur weapons ur main line of attack. Depending on if ember has any armor striping capabilities or augments that debuff enemies may do wonders

[faint harbor]

she has her 3 key that strips around 100% armour ^^ but I definitely need better weapons then

ty :3

[fickle idol]

anyone have an oberon build yet

[gloomy apex]

What is ur weapon? I recently have been working to make my phantasma SP ready

[mighty flare]

This is a dog dependent build, your dog has no mods

[gloomy apex]

I'm a shotgun main so those r the only things I know

[faint harbor]

I'm using a nataruk atm

[south harness]

is there a way to reload the ocucor using holstered mods without resetting the tendrils?

[faint harbor]

yeahhh it soesnt have its damagey mods but all of its utilities are there

[mighty flare]

You’re missing important mods like crit and elements and contagious nuking is undermine by duplex clone

[faint harbor]

okie i'll go farm out some elemental mods for it and try buy bite soon, I was thinking of using the ocucor or a kuva nukor as my secondary weapons

[mighty flare]

This is huras nuking no? You don’t use weapons

[gloomy apex]

Kuva nukor is good. Yeah and nataruk is very crit heavy tho anything else don't really know about

[mighty flare]

If you’re huras nuking you want high statted hybrid weapon like Paris prime

[gloomy apex]

I need a hybrid strun crit build not built for viral but for cold

[near vortex]

For ember they could do a heat inherit primer

[gloomy apex]

Sure, don't take my word for it tho

[mighty flare]

It’s not even ember nuking it’s huras mecha stuff

You’re not really using weapons

[near vortex]

I mean
Heat inherit priming would make the Mecha do more damahe

Something like Epitaph

[gloomy apex]

So, yes in theory it should work, no?

[midnight horizon]

So chat im thinking maybe use lycaths hunt + melee on oberon but idk what melee I should use....

The good ol red veil rakta dagger perhaps?

• rolling guard lmao

So I got like 3 different gates working together. His passive gate, his shield gate, and rolling guard

[near vortex]

But yeah, if you want a Kubrow focused build you need a Paris Prime Incarnon and Kubrow mods

Hunter Synergy is a big one, Bite is a lot of damage, the elemental ones are a big boost too, etc

Paris Incarnon feeds stats into your dog to make your dog able to fight God

I also recommend a heat inherit primer. Heat stacks from your frame can inherit properties from your weaponry if you prime heat first. Examples include the damage boost from the heat mods, Faction damage, and Secondary Fortifier. So you can make Ember's heat procs give you overguard if you do that.

[faint harbor]

I can try this ^^

I've read through alot of the comments and I think I will work on my dog and weapon, get paris prime and one of the weapons i want to use like a ocucur or nukor

[mighty flare]

Ember alr generated overguard though, all you need is to run electric claws on your dog

[faint harbor]

pray that fixes, thankyou everyone for the advice ^^

she does so much overguard o-o

[near vortex]

Paris Prime is always unvaulted, so chances are it won't take too long to get all the parts for it. Then it's just a matter of waiting for the Circuit to rotate the Incarnon adapter in.

[near vortex]

Yeah but you could have MORE
And also heat procs that do more damage which turns into more damage via Mecha and contagious bond

[mighty flare]

no real point in engorging in og when you're just sitting in huras invis

[near vortex]

With Ember? I think she doesn't even need the Huras invis to survive between her 2, her 3 augment and Archon Vitality

[mighty flare]

did you just not look at their build setup

[near vortex]

I did

Oh yeah and Mecha pulse armor

Ember has all kinds of survival

[mighty flare]

if ur using og then only 1 of these things are useful for surviving

[frozen grail]

Can someone help me understand what the difference is between "ability strength" and "ability damage" specifically in my case for Oberon as im wondering what the value is in topaz shards for "ability dmg on radiation effected enemies" vs just normal red ability str shards? are they even worth?

[mighty flare]

ability strength are stat increases from mod like umbral intensify
ability damage is a separate and unique multiplier

[near vortex]

Ability Strength boosts your abilities numbers
Ability Damage boosts ability damage after strength does

I think at least

Im too broke on shards to be familiar with the mechanic

[midnight horizon]

Usually your final ability damage is equal to base damage x (1 + strength%) x (1 + ability damage% from shards and stuff)

So they're separate

[mighty flare]

taking into account str modded, ability dmg shards will usually provide more than str shards

[midnight horizon]

Because you can already get strength from mods and arcanes

Ability damage multipliers are unique to shards I think?

[frozen grail]

ah alright, so since it scales multiplicatively instead of additively like with just adding more str shards its very useful to have ability dmg? making sure im getting that right roughly

[midnight horizon]

If you're looking to increase the damage your abilities deal as much as possible, you'd want to invest in both multipliers equally

And maybe add roar subsume

[near vortex]

Yeah if you want ability damage, roar is the way to go
Unless you are some frames that have abilities with weapon properties like Vauban

Depends on the frame

I know Vauban gives Viral damage to flechette orbs with Nourish

[severe cargo]

What's my Voruna doing wrong
brief respite with cunning drift in exilus
Prime flow (2 from max)
Dynar & ulfrun augments
Archon stretch
Blind rage & overextended & transient fortitude
Equilibrium

Arcane impetus at 4
Molt augmented at 1

The stats come out to
73% duration
45% efficiency
238% range
194% strength

She's not even two shotting 130-140 exilus with fangs into descent

[tawny osprey]

Is there a place where i can report bugs? Anabolic abilitie from pharao predasite doesnt apply to archguns therefore i cant use primary blight

[shell tundra]

How much strength does the new Oberon like?

[hidden mason]

guys, i need a tip... i got these options
🟣 Ayanga Kuva Hera-satitio

+57.8% Zoom

+104.3% ⚡ Electricity

+57% Multishot

x0.67 Damage to Corpus

MR 16

🟣 Ayanga Kuva Igni-zetitio

-78.9% Recoil

+99.2% ⚡ Electricity

+113.6% 🔥 Heat

-75.9% Maximum Ammo

MR 16
which one is best? and if is the second one, its worth it??

[tough fable]

Anyone have a Sahasa Kubrow or Crescent Vulpaphyla build that is kinda cheap

[shell tundra]

How do yall manage to get >100 kpm with Oberon?

[hexed sundial]

use a good trash clear weapon like ocucor, torid

if you mean with just abilities idk

[shell tundra]

Is the Boar Prime Incarnon an option?

[hot furnace]

hmm... I think it needs more armor

[hexed sundial]

yeah

[spare mirage]

So, I read everywhere that the "100% crit chance" part of the buff from Voruna's 1 only brings your crit chance up to 100%, and doesn't surpass it. But, I've equipped nothing but an unmodded voruna, and an unmodded melee. It shouldn't matter which melee, right? But I've tried multiple. No companion, no focus in any school, nothing at all. I STILL occassionally get orange crits while under the effects of her 1. Any ideas?

[dusty dagger]

Hey guys any suggestions on this build? And what weapons should i get for best damage (im mr 7)

[signal saffron]

remove pacifying bolts its not a good augment

then i think u would need a strength mod because pyschic bolts need 25% strength to hit full armour strip

well with corrosive projection u prob only need like 10% strength so either way just swap pacifying bolts for intensify

intensify is great for u starting out since it buffs mind freak too

[signal saffron]

swap corrossive projection to another aura mod

[granite ginkgo]

do u unlock operator/drifter yet? if not assimilate is very useless augment for non endurance

[queen parcel]

does ability damage affect roar?

[novel bear]

No

[granite ginkgo]

nope, roar only affect from str

[novel bear]

Ability damage multiplies damage only

[queen parcel]

dang

[granite ginkgo]

the only dmg skill multiplicative work in ivara kit

the dash wire augment

[novel bear]

Hopefully they undo the ivara nerf

[mighty flare]

Never gonna happen😔

[ornate cosmos]

anyone did builds for reworked oberon yet?
made one for now (ignore mobilize)

[dusty dagger]

Alr did i use operator for movement

[granite ginkgo]

we (me actually) waiting from ninjase inputs

[novel bear]

Does ability damage double dip on smite’s radial damage?

[dusty dagger]

Any suggestions on a wep to use?

[granite ginkgo]

iirc it capped at 75% tho

[granite ginkgo]

i suggest u get AoE weapon, like shotgun (cedo) , incarnon burston or get glaive melee

since glaive melee dont need to be in close range

[narrow hawk]

Did, mine focused on STR, with 150 dura, and 145 range.

For arcanes, I used arcane universal fallout and molt augmented.

[granite ginkgo]

yea what i found is useful in oberon armor buff, (via 3rd + 2nd skill)

• so ur can slot in arcane battery for consistent max energy (can swap p. flow with equilibrium mod)

slot arcane fallout for nonstop orb drop

• his smite is consistent (focus target eximus) remove OG with 100% str (in non sp at least)
• 4th skill doesnt need 3rd skill to armor strip and allowed rads proc non stop

[novel bear]

Ability damage should bypass the cap, theoretically

[ornate cosmos]

also
did this for torbek but im thinking on trying smth similar on the dex sybaris i got

[granite ginkgo]

w incarnon?

[ornate cosmos]

changed it a bit
normal fast hands, but added galvan scope since dex syb got like 40% cc

[ornate cosmos]

yup

[green ridge]

Has anyone got a build for the thornbak yet?

[ornate cosmos]

posted mine but its incomplete
id focus on aptitude given the high stat chance

[ornate cosmos]

using the +15% stat chance inc evolution 3 for this
and the multishot evolution 1

[granite ginkgo]

felt like smite is scaling w enemies lvl

still working on something

[queen parcel]

how's my motorvore build? i plan to make up the crit damage with archon shards

[midnight horizon]

What's carnis mandible for

[novel bear]

No buzzkill, probably

[midnight horizon]

Okay but why? The thing is already default to slash as highest

[mighty flare]

(motovore is innately slash favored) drop carnis mandiable, sacrifical steel, virulent scourge, vicious frost, voltaic strike, ppp
slot: weeping wounds, blood rush, galv steel, reach, condition overload

[midnight horizon]

This looks like any other influence build so you should be using galv steel over sac steel, berserker over pfury, CO over ppp, remove carnis for faction if not range, everything else is fine I guess

Wait you're right no weeping wounds. Drop the viral mods, offset it to diriga

[novel bear]

Isn’t sac steel better with cd shards though?

[mighty flare]

cant read minds

[midnight horizon]

Don't you use blood rush anyway

[mighty flare]

that too

[novel bear]

Even with blood rush it’s still better I think

[queen parcel]

cause without it slash has like a 8.5 cance of proccing

[midnight horizon]

That all comes down to pure calculation. I doubt getting above orange will yield any meaningful dps increase

[midnight horizon]

But why care about slash when you're influencing anyway

[queen parcel]

well

[mighty flare]

you're running influence build you want electric weighting

[queen parcel]

my idea was proc influence and then let viral and slash spread everywhere

[mighty flare]

slash isnt spread

[midnight horizon]

Slash don't get spread by influence

[novel bear]

Influence doesn’t work on physical statuses

[midnight horizon]

Ips can't get spread

If you're going influence on motovore, you want the standard template build. Otherwise, its other use is melee doughty with puncture mods (or slam with impact mods iirc)

[zealous abyss]

How do you build gotva prime

[mighty flare]

doughty motovore is really bad ngl

worse than slash influence or raw impact

[queen parcel]

i tried doughty with puncture but i just couldn't get it to work sadly

[midnight horizon]

Doughty on anything is worse than influence

[mighty flare]

worse than impact

if you're running raw damage on motovore, its impact

[midnight horizon]

Then what? Just slam?

I'm good on that

[queen parcel]

what would be the impact build then?

[mighty flare]

did i say slam?

[midnight horizon]

Whats the build for pure impact anyway

[queen parcel]

that isn't slam

i hate slam spamming

[granite ginkgo]

wf logic
impact = slam

slam isnt even effect from impact dmg lmao

[midnight horizon]

I heard it from ninjase

I can't care less about how it works. I only care about sharing the info

[queen parcel]

i assumed that was what the impact build was cause of how this was worded

[mighty flare]

depends, theres the regular exposure/vortex build or duplicate one

[queen parcel]

duplicate sounds more fun

and i need an excuse to finish ranking it up anyhow

[tough fable]

what antigen and mutagen should I use for the panzer vulp?

[granite ginkgo]

for panzer i suggest the mutagen, phijar - resistance to toxic and slash (cuz this is dot dmg)
and for antigen virox (built in madurai polarity) or poxi (guardian - augment polarities)

u can swith mutagen to elsa

[tough fable]

okay thx

[mighty flare]

just this

[queen parcel]

what the exilus?

[mighty flare]

i always use disciplines merit

also consider shattering storm

ik some ppl like that stance more

[queen parcel]

i dont have it

[mighty flare]

then crushing ruin

[queen parcel]

why saxum thorax and collision force?

[mighty flare]

the passive

[queen parcel]

yeah but it doesn't scale with how much impact is on it

[mighty flare]

?

[queen parcel]

saxum thorax puts it into the dominant alone

[mighty flare]

its raw damage build

[queen parcel]

i thought adding physical dmaage mods didn't actually increae damage just the status weighing?

[mighty flare]

this feels nicest

you can swap vital sense over hammer shot

i forgor why i did that

[haughty sparrow]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Phaedra do y'all think this will ever receive a prime?

[mighty flare]

they dont add the same way as element mods but motovore passive makes it worthwhile for raw damage

[velvet pulsar]

Imagine incarnon

Archgun incarnon

[haughty sparrow]

That would be awesome

[haughty sparrow]

I might have to run secondary enervate on this cause of the low crit chance

[velvet pulsar]

How low?

NVM

[civic apex]

I think we'd need a greater community desire for more arcwing content for that to happen 😭 but it sounds so cool

[velvet pulsar]

"incarnon transformation enables it to be held above shoulder like a rocket launcher"

We already have thermian RPG holding animation

[ornate echo]

what's the best end game jade build??

[velvet pulsar]

I assume same as aegis gauss synergy

[charred schooner]

Now that people had some time to nibble on archgun arcanes, what are the going ideas for Larkspur? I'm thinking Merciless Empowered, unless we can trick it to get headshots for Crux.

And if I were to get a Larkspur Riven (I failed to get one today, but I did get a Mausolon, might do a trade...), what stats should I go for? Multishot, Elemental Damage, Status Chance?

[mighty flare]

crux + flare are ur best general bet

cascadia empowered hasnt been bis for anything in a long while

[charred schooner]

My primary archgun platform is my Protea who uses Avenger (so enervate will be less effective) and Roar (so empowered will be more effective).

[mighty flare]

i dont see how roar correlates with empowered > flare? have you calculated the difference?

[velvet pulsar]

My plan was Crux + Enervate + Blast because blast enervate has synergy and crux will proc more blast

But yeah, headshots

[charred schooner]

Empowered does 750 damage every time that weapon does a status effect. This damage scales with basically nothing except Damage Vulenrability and Faction Damage, Roar is Faction Damage. If my Protea does a 100% Roar, (I think she reaches 120%ish?), then it'll do 1.5k damage per status effect, before armor.
Math issues notwithstanding, my Larkspur has 2.4 multishot, 19.2 firerate (not sure if this is with or without tenacious bond), and 110% status chance. So it does... 50.688 statuses a second to one target? That's 38k DPS from Empowered without Roar and 76k DPS from Empowered with Roar. Before armor, again.

2.4(ms)*19.2(fr)*1.1(sc)*750(empowered)*(1+1(roar))?

[velvet pulsar]

Tenacious increases flat CD
you're thinking reinforced

[charred schooner]

Correct, my mistake, I use both so I get confused.

[mighty flare]

empowered doesnt interact with crits, so getting more crit would actually favor flare

pretty sure you can hit ~90-100% cc on larkspur with some work

empowered just really isnt good

[charred schooner]

I'll run the math tomorrow to check theoretic DPS values. Uh, how would I calculate Enervate?

[latent adder]

just roughly set average crit chance to 100cc

[tawny bay]

What are good arca plasmor riven stats

[mellow nest]

I need that lmao

[granite ginkgo]

cd/cc, fr, ms, and status chance

[tawny bay]

Tyyy

[granite ginkgo]

as for harmless negavite stat, it infested, zoom, impact

unless ur tenet arca plasmor is impact then that wont do

[tawny bay]

Explain im js getting into using rivens

[tawny bay]

Heat

26.6%

[granite ginkgo]

so the total stat you can get per riven is 4 stat
lowest be 2 stat

1 stat can be negative value, reason it recommends to get negative stat in single riven

• boost the positive stats

[tawny bay]

Ohh

[granite ginkgo]

example explainantion:
let said u got +20 cc and -22 CD (bad riven btw)
if the value if no negative it be like
+17 CC and +22CD

overall you want to get negative stat or 2 decent stat and harmless negative

[tawny bay]

Thank you for the help

[granite ginkgo]

btw there three weapon is go for to get negative critical chance

felarx, phenmor and laetum, incarnon weapons

[grave cloak]

I doubt -dti is still a good neg because the infested demolishers on ur definitely do not get 1 shot anymore with 1-2 tennokai attacks

[lunar gale]

can someone explain to me the new lavos augment like i'm 5 ?

[mellow nest]

Transmutation Probe moves away from you in the direction you throw it at.
The Augment makes it come back and stick around for a while.

[digital cliff]

guys do u have strong gaus build ?

[high onyx]

hi, left or right guys?

[astral tinsel]

neither is very good

[tawdry sleet]

left

id keep rolling

[high onyx]

what stat do i look for? cc cd together?

[astral tinsel]

I'd go for CD and multishot

bc soma prime gets up to 500% CC from the augment

[high onyx]

augment?

[astral tinsel]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Hata-Satya

[high onyx]

ohh nicee

tyty

[astral tinsel]

do you have the incarnon?

[high onyx]

incarnon? wtf is that

oh laetum thingy?

[astral tinsel]

you can get incarnon geneses from steel path duviri circuit

that upgrade your existing weapons with incarnon perks

[high onyx]

i see i just got back from a long hiatus

back when draco and bere was a thing

[high onyx]

ill look into it tyty

[mellow nimbus]

what's a good archgun now that they have double arcanes?

[midnight horizon]

Arcguns get 2 arcane slots????????

Whattttt

[mighty flare]

mausolon, corvas prime, grattler, larkspur prime

[midnight horizon]

I feel like maus will always stay top 3 no matter what

[granite ginkgo]

aww why archmelee didnt get the same love

huhu

[midnight horizon]

They kinda suck im ngl

[mighty flare]

they dont "kinda" suck, they bad

[grave cloak]

Because everyone forgot archwing content existed in general

Even though there are some weirdass modifiers in ETA that basically asks you to use archgun for whatever the reason

[velvet pulsar]

They're well planned

[grave cloak]

Well before this update that modifier was just terrible

I haven't actually done this week's ETA mind you, was just waiting for this update.

[digital cliff]

Hello guys do u have any good gaus build ?

[velvet pulsar]

DE started with this requirement to make players build archguns so they actually play it more

Now arcanes as players demanded a buff to them

Then in Tau update they'll bring Orphix fields so ur warframe gets disabled and you'll have to use Necramech with archgun.

That way the new upgrade to archguns will be put to use

It's all planned

[grave cloak]

I suppose.

[midnight horizon]

r4 fast deflection + r0 arcane aegis

The rest of the build is up to you

[digital cliff]

is it good ?

[midnight horizon]

I mean it works

But you didn't follow anything I said so I can't really say anything else much

[digital cliff]

i dont know what thats mean im new player

[midnight horizon]

You use a mod called fast deflections and an arcane called arcane aegis. That way he's immortal to anything but toxin damage (and mag procs)

[digital cliff]

okay im trying to build it

[grave cloak]

I'd drop arcane impetus
How are you gonna proc archon stretch...?

[digital cliff]

which mode can i remove from my build ?

[digital cliff]

its normal stretch sorry

[grave cloak]

Definitely impetus, use aegis/energize/augmented

[midnight horizon]

You can drop streamline

There are better ways to get good energy economy

In fact replace streamline with seismic bond on your diriga or any other companion

[digital cliff]

https://overframe.gg/build/new/6442/gauss-prime/

can u make me build from this site i dont know modes so much

if u help me i will so glad :/

[digital cliff]

why r0 aegis

and fast deflection has 5 rank should i use r4

[grave cloak]

because it's using a bug in the game's spaghetti coding when it comes to shield restoration on gauss

which I won't suggest abusing it since it won't teach you how to properly build anyway.

[mellow nest]

Its not spaghetti coding

[digital cliff]

i dont wana abuse bug i just wana play gauss

[midnight horizon]

But you asked for a good build. I gave you the best

Otherwise, any gauss build is a "good" build

Hell go modless gauss and you'll still be alright

[digital cliff]

https://overframe.gg/build/591347/gauss-prime/electromagnetic-accelerator-general-use-sp-gauss-hybrid-weapon-platform-sunder-nuke/

What ru think about this build ?

[midnight horizon]

This is a very good beginner build. Ninjase the creator can be trusted

[digital cliff]

okay thank you

[mellow nest]

You can use this or take inspiration from it. Best thing about Ninjases builds is the extra info at the bottom in the guide section.
Once you know how a frame works in detail, you dont need people to tell you how to build anymore

Ninjase usually has great explanations on the mod choices and gameplay tips aswell

[digital cliff]

okay thank you

[icy light]

Hellooooooo
Thornback? Thornbak? The new Mod Quest's burst rifle.

I was wondering what to focus on with it? I wasn't able to max it this morning... but I checked out its stats. Status burst rifle huh? Did anyone check if Galv Apt was Mult or Add with it? Might run that and go for a raw dmg build, with galv apt and serration.

[mighty flare]

very bad stats, but its beginner so ig fair

[icy light]

True, true.

[tame scroll]

wait so you guys mentioned there is a bug about this? Ive never heard of it before

[digital cliff]

everyone says use aoe weapons with gauss what is aoe weapons

[icy light]

Explosion guns

[digital cliff]

like ninkondi prime

[desert fulcrum]

are there any companions that attack while ur invis?

[proper vapor]

Is it possible to use Shotgun Vendetta on any Archguns?

[tame scroll]

area of effect weapons, these are typically weapons that have some sort of radius effect to them such as an explosion

[icy light]

Nikondi Prime's aoe is a trait. I... don't know if that's coded as aoe-affectable. And that's a melee so. I don't think melees have aoe-specific mods. Even the Glaives don't.

[digital cliff]

then why i should play with gauss ?

can u guys suggest melee weapon for gauss ?

[tame scroll]

i mean its very early in the morning for me so i could be wrong due to lack of brainpower, but I believe either diriega or shade can with the right build

[icy light]

Shade and that one dog variant

[tame scroll]

wait i thought the glaives had that one mod where it explodes on bounce right? i think it was like volitile return or something like that

[desert fulcrum]

huras?

[inland vale]

should i invest a blue potato on dragon nikana? is it worth it?

[mellow nest]

Its good, yeah

But you dont have to, if you already have a potatoed melee weapon

[inland vale]

i do have a potatoed sun & moon but i want other swords yk?

[mellow nest]

I do know

Dragon Nikana is good. If you like the stances then go for it

[grave cloak]

read here https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/1m4p081/gauss_bug_or_feature

it's very likely a bug since it only works on gauss

[inland vale]

which one do i go for, between tranquil cleave & blind justice?

[tame scroll]

i have just never heard of it before was all

[mellow nest]

Your preference really. Always has been

[desert fulcrum]

thanks i found it, its diriga

[mellow nest]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[midnight horizon]

Blind justice is better, has better multipliers and can work with melee afflictions

[proper vapor]

Does anyone know if Shotgun Vendetta is usable on Archguns?

[mellow nest]

Next youre gonna ask me which toilet paper to buy and how to wash your hands the way I do it.
Suffice to say, you can just play the game yourself and not have someone else dictate you on it

Not that it matters anyways in this case, as you can one or two show basically any normal enemy anyways

[inland vale]

ok... weirdly passive aggressive but sure. whatever.

[mellow nest]

Nah not my intention, just an example

[inland vale]

uh huh.

[mellow nest]

Im on your side

[midnight horizon]

It's not "getting dictated by someone else" when you asked for it.

[mellow nest]

I think it is if you always do it and follow that opinion no questions asked. Just wanted to encourage thinking for yourself and not falling into that trap

Its valuable to get the perspective regardless, though. Good, even

[digital cliff]

is it good now gauss ?

i tried my best 😄

[haughty sparrow]

14% CC

[vapid pivot]

Does the lex one shot accolyte anymore? Or is it gone with this update?

[grave cloak]

Haven't tried yet but won't be surprised if it's gone.

[mellow nest]

Did an Acolyte yesterday with the Cedo Prime. What took like 2 - 3 seconds before now takes around 10 - 15 ig. They put in multiple different thresholds for damage attenuation and one of them is max damage per damage instance

[proper vapor]

Does Shotgun Vendetta work with Archguns?

[mellow nest]

Being the type Archgun and not Shotgun I'd think it doesnt

[vapid pivot]

Damn that’s bad

I used to spawn kill acco with my lex

[mellow nest]

Idk, is it? I just tried out the guns, they normally just die to abilities anyways

Personally I just do the mission and ignore them usually

[vapid pivot]

Same here during omnia fissure camp runs

[mellow nest]

I dont play lvl cap normally tho, so cant comment on that

[vapid pivot]

I always take charge of the spawn killing acco

[vapid pivot]

Not only for lvl cap in general

[mellow nest]

Yee

They take a bit longer now, 10 s instead of 1 s ig

[vapid pivot]

Yea

🙁

[mellow nest]

It isnt the end of the world, but very close to it

[vapid pivot]

Lol

[grave cloak]

fast firing rate and high damage weapons still work fine, the acolytes themselves have quite a high damage cap actually

[mellow nest]

Im just joking man, who cares about 9 seconds

[vapid pivot]

Boar 🌚

[vapid pivot]

True XD

[grave cloak]

based weapon 🗿

[vapid pivot]

[mellow nest]

Im sure you can optimize your setup to do them in like 5 s btw. Its probably a bit like the Hemocyte

[vapid pivot]

Way less than a hemo tbh 😂

[mellow nest]

Yeah true that

[proper vapor]

Extreme Warframe sweats do

Y'know, these 9 seconds could be used to do something else /j

[mellow nest]

Its true, you can just ruin the content for most people to appease a few. That is smth you can do as a Developer.
You can also adjust it to work with everyone at every point in the game as good as possible

Im glad they chose the latter option

[proper vapor]

Daughter said it best

[mellow nest]

Yee

[formal vector]

which mod should I replace with the riven on my Burston?

[sour compass]

I wonder what status mods people recommend on nataruk? I personalyl like electric due to the frontloaded damage + AoE infinite punchthrough, but Im curious what the other options are

I dont love stacking serration, gapt and merciless

[astral tinsel]

I like electric too

it's also good with deadhead since the proc can headshot

[sour compass]

TIL

[astral tinsel]

the usual combination is serration + gaptitude + longbow sharpshot

since they're all multiplicative with each other

[sour compass]

can a bonused shot of longbow sharpshop trigger a bonus for the next shot?

[astral tinsel]

gas too; they activate headshot-activated bonuses and also double dip on the additional 1.3x headshot multiplier from r5 deadhead

[astral tinsel]

yeah you can just chain them I'm pretty sure

[sour compass]

Id rather some frontloaded dps tbh

[velvet pulsar]

Is Nokko's 4 weapon damage class?

[sour compass]

wiki says it shouldnt all be multiplicative?

[formal vector]

I was thinking Serration? so's to stack that crit even more?

[distant jackal]

How we build broberon now?

[astral tinsel]

look up a couple of lines, that's only on weapons where gaptitude isn't multiplicative

[grave cloak]

yes serration

also replace primed shred with gilded truth

[formal vector]

Gotcha thank you @grave cloak

[latent adder]

Still finetuning this
https://overframe.gg/build/366383/oberon-prime/hallowed-fairy-king-smite-and-reckoning-sp-nuke-endurance/

Tossing up on the augment

[icy light]

Those are glaive specific and as far as I know it cannot modify the blast radius.

[astral tinsel]

Volatile quick return increases explosion radius

[icy light]

glaive mod.
non-glaive weaponry: Nikondi prime

[solar reef]

crit delay

[novel bear]

They behave weirdly on some projectile weapons

On nataruk, it’s additive on uncharged shots but multiplicative on perfect and charged

[severe bough]

So that was my oberon build before the rework what could i change i terms of modding etc now after

[sour compass]

Ig my build is fine then? I can't really get sharpshot atm so that's out of the picture

[novel bear]

Yeah, it’s fine

[novel bear]

You can get rid of catalyzing shields and rolling guard
More range or strength

[severe bough]

Invul gating?

Or smth else

[novel bear]

His passive and universal fallout should be plenty of survivability

Keep rolling guard if you feel like you need it I guess

[severe bough]

Ye sounds busted ngl mabye switching out brespite aswell might look

[quiet laurel]

so chat how cooked are 70% of gamemodes now that the DA changes rolled out
are builds cooked

[novel bear]

Wait for da hotfixes

[sour compass]

Would there be a better element choice if I wanted it just for taking down single thick targets?

[severe bough]

Wait whats not working?

[quiet laurel]

things are working like DE intended which is the problem

[novel bear]

Electric is fine

[mellow nest]

Damage Attentuation, all game modes are fine

[novel bear]

Enemies are too tanky now

[mellow nest]

Tankier*

They dont die in 1 hit now, which is the issue

Boss types

[quiet laurel]

I mean since DE said they'll tweak it based on feedback we'll be good once hotfixes roll around

[severe bough]

Brespite needed or could i go with growing instead

What the hell did the done to the UI

[quiet laurel]

2 biggest things are eidolons and disruption from what I heard

[novel bear]

Growing

[severe bough]

And why the fu is uni a legy arcane

[novel bear]

Uni and hot shot should have been legendary from the start

[severe bough]

Bet , so hes basically damage redirection and health tanking in some way

[severe bough]

True

[severe bough]

Is it a issue or ironical?

[quiet laurel]

2 mindsets having opinions on it

1 mindset is "idc enough since I havent played the respective gamemodes enough"
the other is "I care cause I played this a lot"

[novel bear]

Almost no one played eidolons before this

[quiet laurel]

eidolon speedrunning times are cooked

[novel bear]

Disruption was popular for a variety of things

[quiet laurel]

and disruption just has objectively less build variety now

[novel bear]

Is the fragmented less tanky at least?

[mellow nest]

Its irony, the changes basically make it so you cant kill stuff like acolytes in one hit or one second now. You need around 5 hits or 10 seconds basically atm.
It somehow caused a major outrage and people were ranting nonstop about it earlier.

Before, enemies like the Hemocyte and such were impossible to defeat without specialized gear and lategame items, so most people could only do such event runs relying on other people. Furthermore, things like shooting at the same time as another player or using weapons like bows etc basically made you deal 0 dmg.

This has been changed in an attempt to let everyone participate at every lvl even with just decent gear and tries to solve issues like simultaneous attacking.

It remains to be seen whether or not it actually solves these though. In any case, the outrage is absurd

[mighty flare]

You still want this subsume setup?

[severe bough]

I think im still going with rollin also hallowed reck still viable and is his first still a good replacment

[severe bough]

Probably gonna get rid of nourish

If theres smth else

[severe bough]

[severe bough]

Whats about pt

Also whats about pt corvas i wonder which arcanes are the best for it

[mellow nest]

Seems like they fixed the Ogris bug

And Nightwatch Napalm is broken atm

[severe bough]

Hallowed eruption phoenix renewal seem interesting for oberon

[balmy knoll]

so smite is pretty funny with viral stacks...

can true dmg 1 shot any non-boss enemy

so far just tested it with normal SP eximus enemies

[compact owl]

if i put adaptation on mesa does it add to the 90% dr she already has?

[signal saffron]

i recommend the phage, quanta, vandal (if u a solo player) If you like playing with multiple people who can help u get tenet glaxion then thats great also

[haughty moon]

I know it's only been a day. But, what's everyone's opinion on Xaku's new augment?

[severe bough]

Wondering what augments should be used for oberon

[severe bough]

The relentless loss?

[haughty moon]

Untime Rift

[severe bough]

Or was it smth else

[severe bough]

Mhm sounds interesting might try it

[mellow nest]

Havent yet tried it but it seems strong on paper. Question is if its good enough to sacrifice a mod slot

[novel bear]

Too bad they stopped it from working with ice storm

[mighty flare]

the only exciting use was easier 100% slow but thats capped now, so no real reason to use augment

[quiet laurel]

I am excited to try gyres new augment when I install warframe again, is it as good as it sounds on paper?

[mighty flare]

eh

[quiet laurel]

good as in lvl cap good

[mighty flare]

not really usable, gyre doesn't have the stats for tanking so ur still gating

[quiet laurel]

cause it scales with enemy dmg from I understand

[wispy hearth]

It is damage reduction, caps ojt at 75% apparently, probably pretty nice for taking some shield hits

Most people seem to run pillage so

[quiet laurel]

so you actually have to take dmg for the strike to trigger?

[wispy hearth]

Im pretty sure the electric damage is complete garbage

[compact hill]

can someone help me with a wukong build for spy missions

but noob friendly since i dont have much mods yet

[wispy hearth]

The damage reduction is the selling point

[mighty flare]

105 base armor with 370 health does not make a good tanker

[wispy hearth]

Damage reduction applies to shields too id assume

Hence why i said pillage, its an extra layer on top of the overshields youd be getting if you run that build

[mellow nest]

Indeed

[severe bough]

So thats what i thought about now Phoenix is just there because i wanna try it u have any subsumes or changes that would be important

[mighty flare]

yea, hard to fit in builds anyway and ur still lazy/shield gating so it's just not changing anything

hard to reason fitting when gyre is alr slot starved

[severe bough]

I nokko looks so ugly

[quiet laurel]

and here I thought one of the most fun nukers was actually gonna be viable to nuke at cap

[compact hill]

also how do i farm for mods

[mighty flare]

dont really pheonix on oberon unless like wanting help squads
roar is good subsume besides breach surge
battery gives more energy than pflow so you could slot augur reach

[severe bough]

Bet

Didnt noticed armor is a thing lmao

[mighty flare]

oberon really wants viral primer btw

[severe bough]

Always in my lodout

[mighty flare]

it vastly lowers how much str you need for smite 1-taps

you running any rad ability damage shards?

[wispy hearth]

Why is smite even capable of onetapping that is absurd lmao

[severe bough]

Not yet

[severe bough]

True dmg ig? Or any other dmg form

[mighty flare]

health% scaling, you can buff it into 100%

[mighty flare]

no its not true dmg, its still rad

[wispy hearth]

See i was expecting that it had a damage cap and waa unaffectrd by other modifiers, so that it purely exists as an ability that aggressively shuts down eximus units
But in reality its capable of just pulping them entirely

[severe bough]

Rolling guard panic button mabye but i think should be good like this

[severe bough]

Sorry i need to re-learn reading right. But sounds pretty op to me

[icy light]

Because they reworked Smite to Smite

[mighty flare]

makes it worse during fissures cuz orokin resistance radiation damage

[icy light]

Anyway, What were the 4 new augments that dropped?

[severe bough]

Lol

[icy light]

Ooh. Okay I will admit, Transmutation for Lavos is good. His 3 was something of a bit of contention. Reverse Rotorswell... did Rotorswell already have DR?

[versed harbor]

rotorswell augment just sounds god awful ngl

[versed harbor]

nah it didnt

[mighty flare]

no

[icy light]

Untime Rift I heard abt. And then Tharros Lethality is alright. Decent for a frame who already does it all.

Ah. So this is... a 35% DR for Rotorswell then. Hmn.

[severe bough]

So about noko what to focus on whats his survivalbility shield gate etc or nothing?

[icy light]

I guess its to boost longevity for surviving as Gyre then?

[severe bough]

Feels like from reading range str prio and a bit duration

[wispy hearth]

Pretty much that, since the damage component sucks

[versed harbor]

maybe if the aug redirection scales with strength we might get a meme tank gyre but gyre already struggles for mod slots so hp tanking sucks even more tbh

[mighty flare]

passive or 3
crowd control
invis

[severe bough]

Lmao

So basically nothing

I just saw the passive what the

[wispy hearth]

If you want that you run electric ward on hildryn or something, since thst one does actually work (and probably scales poorly still)

[mighty flare]

bro, nokko doesn't need weapons
jut run invis pet and get crepusuclar since it super buffs his 4

[icy light]

Mhmn mhmn. Not bad for a Gyre thing. I guess it's to sorta replace a shield mod or maybe work for a catalyze build?

[mighty flare]

doesnt need weapons like garuda

[severe bough]

Lmao

[mighty flare]

not worth

[wispy hearth]

To me it struck me more as something youd add to bolster Pillage builds

I wouldnt run it myself but i dont run pillage anyway

[severe bough]

Focus on duration str probably ?

[mighty flare]

31 second long abilities at 128% duration

[icy light]

I do not have my hands on Nokko yet. But from the base max nokko build they used on devstream which I assume was no-mods? Duration is top, then shift str/range, I'd say Dur/Str/Range

[severe bough]

Whats a setup without helminth or is his 3 even viable

[icy light]

Is there a limit on Nokko's deployables? His 1 and 2?

[mighty flare]

3 is viable, its basically cloud walker

"i dont wanna take any damage" button

[mighty flare]

1 has cap of 4
2 has cap of 2
4 has cap of 3

[severe bough]

Interesting so not even that much duration required if u play with the 3?

[mighty flare]

3 has base 10 second duration

[icy light]

That's a rank 3 ability duration? (Max rank frame)

[mighty flare]

but you can just recast it whenever theres no cooldown

[icy light]

Ah.

[mighty flare]

yes

[severe bough]

Does his 3 count as invis?

[icy light]

I can already see a Nokko 3 augment that allows him to bounce on the mushrooms like his 4.

Or a crit 1 augment...

[mighty flare]

i dont remember it triggering but i can check again

[midnight horizon]

Should be base kit :')

[icy light]

IT ISN'T?

[severe bough]

Because then u can still be using crespular

[icy light]

DE... dang it. They should get on that.

[mighty flare]

you can bounce on mushrooms while in 3

[midnight horizon]

Well yeah you can

But I wanna target my mushrooms and hurdle through the air like a bouncy ball

[icy light]

Does it just not trigger like the 4 does?

[haughty moon]

From the sounds of it with Xaku's augments, seems like a damn shame it won't see proper use

The same can be said for Gyre's Rotorswell augment I suppose

[midnight horizon]

Alls hitting the mushrooms during the 3 does is give you a little boost (and the usual mushroom stuff)

[mighty flare]

you bouncing on the shrooms forces a pulse
4 bouncing the shrooms forces a pulse and lowers pulse interval from 3sec --> 1.5sec

[icy light]

Ah. So really... it's not like the 4 at all

[amber dagger]

any improvements?

[mighty flare]

same goes for styanax, since the only useable speargun is the tenet ferrox

maybe scourge prime actually

[wind oriole]

i couldnt find a riven channel for this but which riven would be better for verglas?

[severe bough]

So one slot is Left and the arcane might need to look on that if theres smth special also 265 needed or 235 enough so i would probably slot in augur secrets to keep the duration at 155

[mighty flare]

i would max out range

[severe bough]

Got it

[mighty flare]

last arcane can be crepusuclar if you running invis pet or like molt efficiency

[severe bough]

I need to look if crepusuclar works on his 3

[severe bough]

Crep just because it works good with his 4 ?

[mighty flare]

yes

his 4 is his only dmg ability unless you using breach surge

but breach surge ALSO likes crep

[severe bough]

I remember you getting invsi by casting it

So crep doesnt work on his 3 right

[mighty flare]

couldnt force it from my testing no

[severe bough]

Same

My dumbass didnt formad nokko so i just got into cetus didnt noticed till the end

Oh god

[magic stirrup]

For Equinox Prime, what mods and arcanes should I shoot for?

[severe bough]

For oberon you said roar is a good subsume whats the replacment?

[mighty flare]

3

[severe bough]

[signal saffron]

the right side one

because it gives u crit chance good for reinforced bond for free fire rate. Multishot is another bonus too

[queen parcel]

What's a good subsume over rhino's 1?

[mighty flare]

energize gooba for energy sustain if you cant fit equilibrium
molt augmented gooba for scaling up subsumes and provoke

[signal saffron]

nourish LOL

[queen parcel]

I still don't have nourish...

[magic stirrup]

And how do I get subsumes?-

[mighty flare]

deimos

[magic stirrup]

Do I have to have the Helminth? Because I’m working towards that now

[mighty flare]

no you can run her subsumeless

she just needs it to perform on higher standards

[magic stirrup]

Gotcha gotcha

[signal saffron]

if u aint got nourish then nothing to swap his 1 for

[quiet laurel]

shock

[queen parcel]

Wh

No?

Shock sucks lol

[signal saffron]

https://overframe.gg/build/207002/rhino-prime/ironclad-rhino-general-use-iron-skin-buff-crowd-control-non-helminth/

[quiet laurel]

shock trooper

[signal saffron]

literally just get iron clad rhino HAHA

[queen parcel]

Thought I suppose if it can proc influence...

[signal saffron]

nah dont

run magistar with rhino its better slam feel

[queen parcel]

I don't like doing slam builds

Tch sigh

I'll go farm for grendel...

[signal saffron]

well u dont need to slam with rhino iron clad

rhino charge is good getting rhino to a million overguard

[quiet laurel]

shock trooper is one of your best choices when running melee

and even for primaries since purple shards are a thing

[signal saffron]

tbh if u dont like slam build just dont even use rhino then cuz rhino all about slamming imo

[quiet laurel]

your opinion is wrong

[signal saffron]

if u aint slamming with rhino its kinda just weird. Arca titron, magistar are fun af with rhino

[queen parcel]

Wouldn't like

Wukong be the slam frame?

Or oraxia?

[quiet laurel]

why oraxia

[queen parcel]

Cause of her 2

[solar reef]

wukong and valkyr come to mind

[queen parcel]

Though it's a subsume

[quiet laurel]

equinox too not cause she buffs slams or anything but cause slams build up her nuke so fast

[solar reef]

^

[queen parcel]

Right, and regardless like i said slam just isn't fun for me

[solar reef]

how are yall building your oberons i’m lost on him

i would assume his 3rd is his subsume slot

[queen parcel]

I'm thinking about health tanking

[quiet laurel]

on who

[novel bear]

Reave and 410 strength

[queen parcel]

He's got great healing and with his new passive he can actually make use of it lol

[quiet laurel]

doesnt his passive just make health tanking irrelevant

[solar reef]

^

[celest mountain]

Decent rage , at least 215 strength and good duration

[queen parcel]

If only we lived in a world where stynax 3 was his subsume...

[solar reef]

i was thinking about just running roar or xata’s on him

maybe even lycath’s

[novel bear]

What do you want to do with him is the question

[celest mountain]

I have tried roar it’s very good with smite

[novel bear]

If you want to use smite a lot, then roar

[solar reef]

i’m not sure. I do plan on taking him to cap

[mighty flare]

rhino is definitely not just a slammer frame, bro can be a caster because of his unnerfed roar

[queen parcel]

True true but uh

Idk I need an excuse to use my 10 somthing umbra forma

[celest mountain]

Smite gets that job done

[queen parcel]

Doesn't that make him a better weapons platform? I mean I know it applies to all damage but still

[novel bear]

Put them on rhino with to get to 410 strength

[queen parcel]

Nah

Wasted umbra forma

[signal saffron]

then just dont play rhino bro. There is nothing more fun than slamming as rhino big heavy TANK with arca titron or magistar. Whats your favourite weapon style?

[mighty flare]

you can do whatever you want on rhino

[mighty flare]

stop talking like that

[queen parcel]

What do you mean weapon style?

[solar reef]

“dont play rhino if you dont want to slam” like what

[signal saffron]

beam. shotgun, melee glaives or what...

[novel bear]

Rhino doesn’t have anything that benefits slam in particular

[queen parcel]

Uhm

I

Don't really give a shit what weapon I use

[solar reef]

^^^
Rhino is literally a generic do it all

[queen parcel]

Whatever works for my warframes fashion I guess

[signal saffron]

its role play to play anything else imo with him

[mighty flare]

?

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-bruh-meme-guy-wtf-what-gif-17184367

[novel bear]

Zenistar dynasty looks good with rhino

[signal saffron]

except slammng u said,

[queen parcel]

Nah I'm doing an infested fashion on rhino

[solar reef]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/889817121507393536/1377153149399203901/2x.avif

[queen parcel]

So I'm doing bubonic, vakor marelok and coda motorvore

[signal saffron]

doesnt rhino have that weapon with the skin on a slam weapon?

[queen parcel]

Slamming isn't really a "weapon style tho" that's somthing I can do with any weapon

[severe bough]

@mighty flare hell nah you were right💀 nokko is the final not playing frame

Its basically recasting abilitys

[solar reef]

????? He has a mediocre skin for hammers with his palatine deluxe

Palatine itself being a mediocre skin to boot

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/mushy-tushy-mushroom-mushroom-sprite-mushroom-with-butt-cute-mushroom-gif-11583351813834893784

[queen parcel]

Palatine? I mean I guess but palatine looks like crap lol

[signal saffron]

i swear if u equip that palatine melee skin with the rhino heirloom it dont look that bad

[queen parcel]

And besides I already bought his voijink tenogenn skin

[solar reef]

i dont like his heirloom either

[signal saffron]

WHAT?

[solar reef]

his base skins look the best on him

[signal saffron]

his heirloom is chill

[novel bear]

I like his heirloom helmet
I have it on his dex skin

[queen parcel]

It's the worst of the bunch if you ask me

[solar reef]

we LOVE infested fashion

[signal saffron]

trolling

[queen parcel]

Lemme get a picture of mine

[solar reef]

yeah, sorry, im not a fan of the copy/paste galaxy texturss heirlooms have and I’m not a big fan of his in particular

[solar reef]

see this looks good

[signal saffron]

ngl best oberon i have ever seen

[queen parcel]

Ember was the best

[solar reef]

I liked mag’s

[signal saffron]

not bad

one of the better rhino deafult skin combo i ever seen

[queen parcel]

Rhino is mid and Valk

Tch well look I'm no prude but it's a bit much...

[queen parcel]

Yeah but you can't get then anymore so I don't count them

[signal saffron]

imo nah

i think frosts was the best or mags

tbh i think this is a dead game anyway

so boring no end game i quit gg

uninstalling goodbye fellas

[queen parcel]

no i agree with you but again they cant be obtained so like there's no point in counting them

[pearl jackal]

nice

[queen parcel]

@solar reefsince you seem excited about it

[solar reef]

we love infestation

[solar reef]

mines remained relatively unchanged for years minus a syandana swap and signa

[queen parcel]

i wish i could use the new lavos skin

[mellow nest]

Lavos costs basically nothing on the market

[queen parcel]

nah cause i've already got a fashion for him

[mellow nest]

Lmao looking like a Ben10 alien

[queen parcel]

i was going for scaldra

[mellow nest]

I can see the tank on the new skin tbh

You can also just own multiple skins my dude, might get old if you just run the same always

[queen parcel]

but likew

it makes me feel like i wasted money by not using it

since only gemini can swap mid mission

[mellow nest]

Why would you need to swap mid mission tho

Its one click to swap them

You can also just make another loadout with it

[queen parcel]

i dont wanna

i have one loadout for each warframe that i enjoy playing

[lost hull]

Can anyone else running rad shards on Oberon test if Smite still one shots by itself this morning?

[crisp merlin]

With Ash having his shadow clones be his exalted weapon and getting melee bonuses from it/melee finishers, would Cursed Desiccation be able to synergize now?

[queen parcel]

yes but the augment for silence would be better on him

[charred schooner]

I did some rough calculations and, even with a pitiful 1.6x crit mult, Enervate is king, by a lot. I'm not really confident in my calculations though because Overframe won't let me make an "illegal riven" to tweak values to simulate arcanes.
Merciless Enervate it is! Guess that means I can remove the Arance Avenger strat from my Protea. I think?

[mellow jewel]

Will this do for a primer build for the Kompressa?

[mighty flare]

mod for like corro, you dont prime with gas and dont use galv shot

[mighty flare]

use multishot

[mellow jewel]

So switch galvanized shot for lethal torrent?

[mighty flare]

smthing like this

[mellow jewel]

Thanks

I'll use this once the Kompressa finishes building

[celest mountain]

Man I always think im good with fashion until im not

[mellow jewel]

I wanted to make it to use it with the Rauta and Syam for disruption missions

[celest mountain]

Crazy how fashion just keeps getting better the more you look lol

[solid wagon]

i am planning to make a amalgam ripkas nekros lootframe but cant decide on what primary weapon to pick. i am mr 8 and while i do have hek (with orokin catalyst installed) its high reload time makes it hard to use in survival missions. any suggestions?
the current plan is to use ocucor as the secondary.

[mighty flare]

also i swapped the innate naramon polarity with the exilus' madurai polarity
you can do this after using 1 forma over amalgam barrel diffusion