builds-discussion

[midnight horizon]

I'd also replace killing blow with a faction mod unless you already using roar or smth

Wyrm p or nautilus p just to hit reinforced bond shield requirement

[novel bear]

Baruuk with hot shot and afflictions is pretty good

[deep grotto]

Built Chroma but a friend of mine told me he’s only good for credit farming 😔

Is this factual or can i actually use the derg for something

[maiden geode]

i mean its 2025, anything is good enough for base SP at least, so if you are one of the few people that do find chroma fun to play you can absolutely easily clear anything in base SP with chroma, the credit stuff is just a bonus, something chroma is really great at, but that doesn't mean you can't play him >_>

a lot of people, me included just find chroma boring.

[twilit crest]

It’s kind of true

I mean chroma has aura and he buffs team 🥀

I myself only use him for credit farming tho

[deep grotto]

Damn

[haughty sparrow]

Is this calibans peak or is there more i should do?

[mighty flare]

would use primed flow and umbral int over redirection and augur reach

[haughty sparrow]

I'll try to make space for primed flow

[chrome badge]

yeah redirection isn't that nice and reach is nice but not as nice as flow

[haughty sparrow]

I use the reach to catch more enemies with my first (it refunds 25% energy for every enemy caught)

[chrome badge]

personally i don't use rolling guard on cali bc the 'lysts take aggro off me and im always spinning around so i go for range instead of that

i know what augment does, im not new to him

😠

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-footed-sure-footed-warframe-sure-footed-gif-2976538678452841170

[haughty sparrow]

Got it

[chrome badge]

i run my cali with 0 forma btw

[mighty flare]

i use nourish so it doesnt matter for me

[haughty sparrow]

I think I'll keep redirection for a higher shield cap and go for primed flow in place of rolling guard

[chrome badge]

Choralyst + nourish viral explosions?

mmmmm consider maybe not so that if your shields pops, you won't be casting too many 1s or waiting with ur 'lysts to regen it

[mighty flare]

what

i dont understand that sentence

[haughty sparrow]

But i enjoy casting 1,and occasionally 2

[chrome badge]

basically i personally wouldn't use redirection bc higher shield cap means longer shield regen time if it gets popped

[chrome badge]

do as you will ig :3 jus a tiny suggestion

[haughty sparrow]

"Shield regen time" are you talking about the shield regen delay?

[chrome badge]

no i mean the time required to regen the shields, not the delay btwn the depletion and it regening on its own

[haughty sparrow]

I usually don't wait for my shield regen to top off my shields

[mighty flare]

also dont use augurs on calban cuz it overrides gate timers

[haughty sparrow]

It does 0_0,ima remove them

[mighty flare]

stick to stretch, its easier

[haughty sparrow]

I have archon stretch on em (which finally works for his augment) and the only other range mod hurts my strength

[upbeat skiff]

Does cold status affect headshots?

[haughty sparrow]

It makes headshots easier with the slow,but it just adds an extra 1X to your crit multiplier (the description lies)

[deep grotto]

Fair enough i suppose
what does he even do that makes him good for credit farming?

[maiden geode]

his 4

[deep grotto]

ah i see

[novel bear]

He doubles credit drops

[haughty sparrow]

Forget this i think i can survive with 1 range mod

[chrome badge]

arch stretch is pretty useless on him bc his 1 alr regens energy more effectively

[mighty flare]

arc stretch is just free energy why not

[haughty sparrow]

It gives range and it combos with razor mortar

Also btw i removed the PSF for cunning drift

[chrome badge]

yeah but reg stretch gives the same range for like a third of the mod cap

[mighty flare]

poor 🥀

[haughty sparrow]

(i got camisado and molt augmented as my arcanes)

[mighty flare]

this player cant afford forma 😔

[chrome badge]

hey man i run formaless builds all the time

[mighty flare]

ok

[midnight horizon]

How can I tell someone that crit affects elec DoT and influence DoT

[midnight horizon]

Awesome

[mighty flare]

put a big red circle for more effect

[haughty sparrow]

I got a bit of a question

Do shields protect from knockdown?

[chrome badge]

nope

[mighty flare]

just pick up the psf 🥀

[chrome badge]

Overguard (the white shield those damn eximus got) do tho

[haughty sparrow]

Okie dokie thanks

[knotty wedge]

does anyone got a good equinox build

[midnight horizon]

So chat I definitely cooked. >100% roar and still capable of health tanking

And don't worry about the energy, diriga with mystic bond covers it

Oh and I use melee fortification on my melee as extra DR

[dense geode]

Is there really no way to make Merulina not get 1-tapped in level cap?

[wanton wind]

Yea or nay

[limber panther]

Hello, which from these 3 should I build for ETA?

[mighty flare]

All of them handle ETA easy

[grave cloak]

if you have a good secondary I'd go with yareli

[limber panther]

i have the kompressa i know thats her weapon but i havent built it yet just level 30 for mr

would that be good?

[hexed sundial]

oraxia prob safest pick

[grave cloak]

any other secondary from the list you're given for ETA?

tbh transference isn't blocked for this week's ETA anyway so if in doubt just vazarin sling

[ember rapids]

Hey how would you guys go about making this better? Very new to wf so Im still learning

for dex pixia

[grave cloak]

rearrange your elemental mods to make blast/tox

and then have archon continuity on your frame for the tox to also apply corrosive

[ember rapids]

Would blast/tox be better than viral heat?

[ember rapids]

Yeah I need to get that fs

Ok ill try it out tyvm

[mighty flare]

Do you have xatas whispers

[ember rapids]

If thats to do with helminth I dont have that unlocked yet xD getting there though soon enough

[warped osprey]

Do I need the Torid Riven Mod for a Good Torid incarnon build?

[mighty flare]

no

[near vortex]

Very much not, but if you happen to unveil a Torid riven they sell for a couple hundred plat

[mighty flare]

tox blast setup wants xatas whispers

[warped osprey]

How do I trade Riven I don't see them in market

[near vortex]

It's under contracts

[warped osprey]

Oh thx

[lethal bison]

gang so i thought

perhaps we can just use radial javelin as a crowd control

it staggers enemies

[woeful monolith]

Its a ok weapon not too crazy

[woeful monolith]

Bruh toxin from weapons will not work with archon continuity, it only works with abilities mate

[mighty flare]

dex pixia?

[woeful monolith]

Idk what weapon he was using

[woeful monolith]

Ohhhhh ok my bad

[grave cloak]

Needs more red circles tbh

Perhaps add some red arrows too so that other people know what they're looking at

[near vortex]

average Warframe YouTuber thumbnail

[snow shard]

Hi, I have a question about the Glaive Prime build, which is the most recent?
Or how can I improve the one I already have? It's been around for a while, and since I stopped playing for three years, I don't know if the build guide will help.

[mellow nest]

You won't believe what weapon this man is using... gone wrong!

[upbeat zealot]

don't forget the prime sure footed for a frame build

[dense geode]

Does silence really need range to be effective? I feel like the base 20m, or even a little less would be fine, right? (Assume it’s for level cap)

[latent adder]

Yeah 100 to 145 is ideal

The lower range is beneficial to restunning as u move fast

[dense geode]

That’s perfect then, I can leave range alone

[pale belfry]

oraxia or yareli have a good base endurance

lavos could play EDA like a cake but you have to put more effort to play

[velvet pulsar]

What is Nokko's 1 & 2?

I'm trying to predict the subsume

[charred gale]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Nokko/Abilities

[radiant gust]

I am thinking it is gonna be the health orb shroom

It could honestly be the ability strength shroom with diminished stats like roar

[empty owl]

Is it worth it Investing into a Warframe like Caliban prime? I'm MR 9 atm.. I first started with wukong prime at lower MR rank. Unless I should focus on building wukong prime only? 🙏🏽

[dry flint]

I built caliban prime and i'm loving him, nothing wrong with branching out and trying new frames but its up to you and your preference

[mellow nest]

You want to have multiple ones available and feel good playing them. It helps with different kinds of missions and so you dont burn out

Investing into certain warframes is still a good idea for later, though.
Many warframes want 2 - 4 forma (and a reactor ofc) to really take advantage of strong builds with survivability

[orchid swift]

Hey yall, is there a Mag Prime main who is interested in being a mentor for a relatively baby tenno? 😄

[mellow nest]

^ https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1427257271343251608

[empty owl]

Thank u tenno's for the feedback and advice. 💕🙏🏽

[abstract cargo]

Do you guys have a Lavos build for me to look at? I wanna take him into higher content my current build feels lacking

[proven palm]

I see Mag Prime is now more popular since she has Aoi skin, not that it's weird. Aoi have lot to say during combat which i nice.

[mellow jewel]

Could someone help me with a Coda Pathocyst build?

[lethal bison]

gang

must dual ichor use primed pressure point instead of condition overload

since the toxin puddles do not stack with CO

[midnight horizon]

Is there a Good Build (without Prime, Augur and Galv) mods for Corufell?

Now I understand Corufell maybe an average scytheGun, but... it's smth I'll have to work on and maybe learn to.modding (and I know too that there are many weapons to practice... but I chose Corufell)

[haughty pagoda]

This is what I use
Replace primed mods with their regular versions and galv reflex with corrupt charge,
The reason for both pressure point and condition overload is that the heavy attack has multiplicative condition overload instead of it adding to pressure point like most attacks

You can also use a faction mod instead of pressure point due to the adding of killing blow and pressure point

Oh yeah and melee duplicate as the arcane

[midnight horizon]

What's a Faction Mod?

[haughty pagoda]

Stuff like smite grineer (melee against grineer), bane of corpus (rifle against corpus), expel infested (pistol against infested), cleanse corrupted (shotgun against corrupted)

[midnight horizon]

Ah ok

Mind if I "Steal" the photo?

[haughty pagoda]

Go for it, builds are meant to be shared

[midnight horizon]

And speaking of builds, I heard that Dagath is a Melee based frame, and I would like to partner it with Corufell... any tips or Advices?

[haughty pagoda]

She's just more of a weapons platform in general, so buffs every weapon
High duration and strength with spectral spirit augment mod is priority I believe

[midnight horizon]

I haven't heard of that, Spectral Spirit Mods?

And what did you mean Weapons Platformm

I'm still learning so yeah hahaha

[haughty pagoda]

Weapons platform just means they can buff weapons a lot
Spectral spirit mod below, if doom is applied to the enemy then they take even more crit damage

[midnight horizon]

Idk how you would NOT want to use this augment

There's absolutely no situation where you do not want to use this

Def a bandaid mod but a GODLY one

[midnight horizon]

Give....... please if you have spare

Hahahaha

I'll farm if there is a way, I'll ask someone if there is a spare. Might do it tmr

[haughty pagoda]

Red Veil and Perrin sequence sell it at R5 with their syndicates

[midnight horizon]

Who?

[haughty pagoda]

Theyre part of the syndicates that you can pledge to using the syndicate terminal left of navigation in orbiter

[midnight horizon]

Ohhhh

[pale belfry]

this mod like an anime movie, yeah, you boost doom mode become broken but after that, you absoluty ass, you are not gonna get benefit from the ability when its in CD state

Pretty broken but only worth when you want something min max

You could kill some enemy to reduce CD little faster but yeah. It is not stable to use.

You are gonna insanely strong and become insanely weak in CD state

[midnight horizon]

The question is how long is the CD?

[pale belfry]

Depends on how many you could kill to reduce it

I got a flexible slot for it.

But honestly, i dont use that much this mod, it is really unstable for dmg output

[midnight horizon]

I need brief Respite and Catalyzing shields

Anyways, I might mix up some mods to make it work

[pale belfry]

you can use it.

But like i said

you gonna become insanly strong or you gonna become insanely weak

in CD you not gonna get benefit from crit and other buff, and extra life

[midnight horizon]

What do you mean?

[pale belfry]

once you active the skill, you become doom state

that state is when you die, and 3rd still active

[midnight horizon]

So I need to die in order for it toactivate?

[pale belfry]

...

lemme show u

[midnight horizon]

Sorry hehe, I am quite slow

[pale belfry]

this is when you dont have augment.

This is when you got augment

without augment, as long as your skill still on. You get benefit from skill and an extra life.

but with the augment, it is go straight to doom state

and have time (not include cd)

[midnight horizon]

Ah I see

[pale belfry]

if you got cd, you got nothing from the ability

that is why i called it is isanely weak

[midnight horizon]

Is there way to counter it?

[pale belfry]

You could kill enemy to reduce CD

1 sec per

[midnight horizon]

Alright

I see now why she was called "Weird" in the Chat box of warframe in game hahahah

I asked about it about her and all they say is "She is weird..."

[pale belfry]

really strong but pretty hard to control

and yeah. she got 666 hp

[midnight horizon]

I've been using easy frames like Dante and Sevagoth. Might need a change, I saw her skill set and i felt I can make work around her

[midnight horizon]

Base health? I thought you modded it

[pale belfry]

You could go nuke with dagath

[pale belfry]

no, im not

[midnight horizon]

Oo that's a detail I've never heard to frames like her

[pale belfry]

her 4th ability

her kit could armor strip easily and deal insanly amount dmg if you want abuse it

[midnight horizon]

Oh wow, I'll take note of that

(I might have a new main now once I got her)

[pale belfry]

The most funny part is you could slow enemy

i mean, insanely slow

[midnight horizon]

Naturally?

[pale belfry]

over a nova can do

[pale belfry]

yup

[midnight horizon]

So like that's her passive skill?

An additional I mean?

[pale belfry]

for example. Acolytes, you could slow it and watch it do nothing to u

[midnight horizon]

That's a pretty interesting detail

Now I just need potatoes for her

[pale belfry]

Dagath could do slow down enemy after their dead animation

[midnight horizon]

Well I am still farming for her last few parts but after that, then wait 3 days

[midnight horizon]

That's Slow...

[pale belfry]

in video is 65% slow, on my build is 95%

[midnight horizon]

Like slow slow hahaha

[pale belfry]

it is just 65%, you could do 95%

yeah, if people have a problem to dealing with those kuva liches or sister

just use dagath

slow them down, lmao

[midnight horizon]

And it doesn't wear off? I mean I'm sure it would

But maybe

[pale belfry]

this is how slow down at 95%, one of reason i love dagath

[midnight horizon]

||I'm very curious what companion you have bc it's such a good primer||

Seems like she have Time Dilation hahahahah

This peaks my interest in Dagath more

[pale belfry]

it is just wyrm prime, nothing speacial, it is not a good option if you aiming in min max, optimizing

should be nautilus or digira, or beast like others

[midnight horizon]

True, till this day I use my Lil bow bow kubrow (might change to Lil meow meow)

[pale belfry]

mine just because i love to use wyrm, that its

[midnight horizon]

Fair hahaha

Anyways thanks for the help, I appreciate it

[jovial gull]

What do yall reckon is better here?

[devout bridge]

l

[pale belfry]

right

go headshot all time

and ammo no longer a problem

🤣

[fiery thunder]

wouldnt hurt to ask here too which one do yall think is better ?

[fiery thunder]

def the right one the increase in both crit chance and crit dmg is quite big compared to the one on the left

[velvet pulsar]

Acri satidex

[severe bough]

Right ig

[velvet pulsar]

At this point I wouldn't reroll anymore honestly

Also I wonder how blast enervate furis plays out

[fiery thunder]

with the riven on the right ?

[velvet pulsar]

Not ur case particularly, but u can try with the right side riven

[velvet pulsar]

I'm talking this one in general

[fiery thunder]

yea i hear some people recommending it , i might give it a go

[velvet pulsar]

Ur riven will just make it more ideal

CC on furis doesn't reach 100% by it's sheer stats iirc

[pale belfry]

obsivously the right one.

less neg but has more dmg

you're not gonna play with those infesteds all the time

[velvet pulsar]

That negative can be handled smartly
I play with this UNROLLED god tier riven:

[fiery thunder]

daym unrolled

[velvet pulsar]

And this was before toxocyst incarnon was even announced

[fiery thunder]

thank god you kept it lol

[velvet pulsar]

0 plat 0 kuva wasted
My luck was way ahead of its time

[fiery thunder]

then how high can it get without using the riven on the left ? like using normale mods and such ?

[velvet pulsar]

I kept it just because of the sheer godroll on default state

Then I tried to make it work. Gauss was the best bet.

Imagine my sheer surprise when it got an incarnon, then even more mind blowing that it became of the the best weps

[pale belfry]

use, arcane outburst + archon shard to fix it.

[fiery thunder]

must be a nice feeling

[velvet pulsar]

U can use outburst or enervate to solve this problem
U don't need to think about the riven on the left

[pale belfry]

crit is good but the right one, is stack with infested, not that worth, you could get better roll

the right is more rare than the left

[velvet pulsar]

If you're going with blast furis, blast enervate has synergy

For heat build, outburst

[fiery thunder]

not cascadia flare ?

[pale belfry]

You dont need too muc base dmg btw

[velvet pulsar]

That's an option too, then run a puncture primer companion or external flat CC

[fiery thunder]

i wish i could send my furis build tho im stuck on the rolling menu xD

[fiery thunder]

yea could do that

[pale belfry]

honestly, the left one above is normal roll

nothing special, because it is mixing too much unrelate stats

[velvet pulsar]

Anyways
How does Latron incarnon sound with astral bond hound?

[fiery thunder]

talking about the toxocyst riven ?

[velvet pulsar]

"left"

[fiery thunder]

cc and cd arent unrelated but ig dmg to infested is

[velvet pulsar]

My Toxocyst riven stats are fitting enough

[fiery thunder]

yea ms and base damage go hand in hand

[velvet pulsar]

Even if DE brings object based health in boss fights, I'll be ready

Also that cold combines with the frenzy perk's toxin

[fiery thunder]

oh nice the crit chance didnt even tank all that much

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah people unreasonably cry on it

Same goes for Tenet Cycron, Tenet Glaxion, Coda Hema.

[solar reef]

i still haven’t got my electricity roll 💔

at 200 rolls on mine

still stuck with viral 🥀

[velvet pulsar]

Honestly
Don't roll
Roll with it

Ur roll is kinda better than mine TBH

Coz frenzy is the only multiplicative fire rate buff in the game

[mellow nest]

Cold is still decent, yeah. Keep it for sure

[solar reef]

i’s rather just have the same roll with electricity though

[solar reef]

theres like a gajillion other sources of viral

[velvet pulsar]

That's too much demand when u have such good rolls

[solar reef]

i just want convenient armor stripping

[velvet pulsar]

Corrosive toxocyst was ideal before jade shadows

Now that armor is 90% DR
viral stacks will easily cancel that DR

People used to tell me to reroll the viral one before jade shadows

Now viral is as good as corrosive roll

[mellow nest]

Cold isnt a bad element actually, whether you wanna do blast or just cold itself for crit damage. Its just so that nobody does this. But why not just do the viral on the gun tho, frees up smth else. What are you fighting anyways that you need max power I wonder

[solar reef]

i dont need viral on the gun because virals outsourced to companions or nourish

[mellow nest]

Then do blast perhaps

[solar reef]

i shouldnt waste a mod slot to get blast when i could just run one electricity mod and get corrosive

and i’m fighting at level cap so why non min-max

[mellow nest]

You can have both tho lmao

Uh sure, dunno if you need that at lvl cap

[solar reef]

“could do both” and it just requires the thing I said I’d rather not do

[mellow nest]

Right

[solar reef]

which is waste more mod slots

[mellow nest]

Technically so, yeah

[deep grotto]

I love how we basically don’t need corrosive anymore

[mellow nest]

Depends, but it doesnt really stack fast for some weapons and only up to 80%

[velvet pulsar]

Cold also has QoL in incarnoff

If u miss the headshot, the enemy will slow down for easier headshot

And u can switch between cold and viral mid combat in some cases, which allows u to take advantage of more CD from cold, then more dmg from viral.

[mellow nest]

Issue is it will combine with toxin right

If it didnt then it would be good actually

[velvet pulsar]

On headshot

[mellow nest]

Right

[velvet pulsar]

Incarnon usually does combine, because easy headshot

[solar reef]

One tau corrosive brings that up to 98%
and its the dual tox which is more than capable of spreading it fast

[mellow nest]

Depending on the enemies, Viral is probably still better than other options at +50%

[mellow nest]

So 13% damage reduction left, yeah

[velvet pulsar]

I don't think something can really last before 13 stacks of corrosive ramp up from toxocyst

[solar reef]

prepare for that which won’t happen or some shit

some philospher type sh

[velvet pulsar]

U said it urself, viral primers

[solar reef]

i have viral companions for that

[cerulean rune]

Could this riven replace both Reach and attack speed mods ? it doesn't give quite as much range and speed but I could use the saved space ofr an additional mod (I don't have burning hate unfortunately)

[velvet pulsar]

Yes, u said that

And I'm repeating it

[solar reef]

depends on your build

replaces reach in a light/hybrid build

[velvet pulsar]

Rather DE is nerfing the toughest enemies

[mellow nest]

Viral is just a bit too good in comparison

[solar reef]

in a heavy spam build, not worth slotting

[mellow nest]

Theres an actual issue here with some stuff like radiation just not doing anything and corrosive been slow on most weapons

[velvet pulsar]

Every attenuation being standardized to Archons, and my toxocyst gets done with a singular archon phase in 1 go without running out of charges

That means other attenuation enemies will be done with similar ease

[solar reef]

how good is oberon’s armor strip after the rework

has it even been changed

[velvet pulsar]

Honestly my entire focus is on Smite and Passive that I didn't gave it much thought

[mighty flare]

not tied to grass anymore

[velvet pulsar]

It's by 4 now

His 2 might be the most subsumable option

[mighty flare]

its still 3

[velvet pulsar]

A good hound build can make his 2, and to an extent, his 4 lackluster

[solar reef]

so is this good or bad

i dont really know oberon ball like that

[mighty flare]

overall gooba

[solar reef]

All i know is that it used to take too much strength investment and had super bad range

[mighty flare]

same range

[velvet pulsar]

2 is status immunity + arcane universal fallout

4 is armor strip and some "strong" damage by DE standards

[mighty flare]

same armor strip thresholds

[velvet pulsar]

Big difference is that 2 is radial instead of cone

[mighty flare]

they asking about 4

[solar reef]

thats why i assumed the range would be better

i guess it doesnt matter since its been moved to another ability

[velvet pulsar]

I can simplify it

Shield Gate 2.0/Poor man's Mesmer Skin
Status Immunity
Nuke button (including full overguard strip)
Subtle crowd control by radiation which also affects eximus crowd controlling to an extent

And his 3 isn't changed much which means despite all this survivability he still has infinite revive strat available.

It's like a cheater boss became playable.

Smite nuke at max range goes 16.8m
No damage falloff as per the DEv workshop

With roar or viral priming, despite being capped at 75% HP drain, nearby enemies will take higher dmg anyway, with chances of original enemy being the only survivor left.

Should u decide to go weapon platform instead of smite nuke, Voruna subsume on him with any melee will be a braindead synergy

[solar reef]

Lycath’s hunt my beloved 🤑

[velvet pulsar]

For infinite revive strat context:
https://youtu.be/kasR3HwskR4?si=cYYfpZ8U0XglBRP3

He can basically use bleedout as a "Sofa Immunity" and kill enemies with secondary weapon while chilling.
75s later, he'll revive automatically.

Having a (Primed) Regen guarantees that sentinel will be safe when reviving u.

[solar reef]

so no beasts when oberon

[velvet pulsar]

Max chilling time is 75-80s, taken as worst case scenario

[velvet pulsar]

Should u choose to go with beasts, Huras Kubrow with Smite nuke means nothing is attacking u anyway while go around not needing weapons

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/toilet-shark-toilet-freaky-shark-sitting-shark-goofy-ahh-gif-6628307483075639751

[velvet pulsar]

His 4, if as strong as advertised by DE, will get rid of remaining survivors

[dense geode]

is galvanized shot multiplicative with hornet strike on ocucor

[velvet pulsar]

No

[dense geode]

awh

[velvet pulsar]

If this fails, huras kubrow's claws r likely the strongest beast claws in the game.

So it'll finish off any lone survivors.

[edgy lance]

hi, can anyone help me with my mesa build?

thats how i built it and idk if its good enough for eda/eta

i subsumed pillage on 1

[mellow jewel]

Is the Panzer Vulpaphyla a good option for Oberon?

[plain bobcat]

Where on this can i change a mod with a riven mod that gives critical chance, damage, and fire rate

[solar reef]

pretty much the only place to slot it would be over the bane

[plain bobcat]

Not critical delay yeah?

[solar reef]

or critical delay

that skipped me for some reason

it should give similar CC to critical delay anyways with its high dispostion

[mighty flare]

Crit delay

[plain bobcat]

Does having more critical chance increase
Damage more?

[solar reef]

every 1-100% range is a new crit tier, which just adds your crit damage to itself

[plain bobcat]

My base crit chance for this build is 71.3% with a 5.6x crit damage

[plain bobcat]

If i go down it shows 104% crit chancr and 8x crit damage mb, well it shows both idk lmao

[solar reef]

this means you have a 4% chance of getting tier 2(orange) crits

every other attack will be a base crit(yellow)

every crit tier just add your crit multiplier to itself to get your new crit multiplier

[severe bough]

Would probably replace gshot with anemic agility for more fire rate since you already covered enough basedmg through flare and im wondering if it doesnt hold up with eda/eta

[edgy lance]

that sounds good tbh

[mortal crest]

Hey Can anyone suggest me a Good Excalibur Umbra build with Nourish pls?

[solar reef]

you’d build him the same way you build him normally

[mellow nest]

Imma do full duration

[ebon lion]

Any tips on building titania

[near imp]

Does viral quills apply status? Im talking about archon mods here

[twilit crest]

What archon mod

Don’t think any work with viral

[mighty flare]

yes apply statuses, only archon mod they interact with is stretch

[near imp]

shocking claws or collar

[mighty flare]

youd use shocking claws over collar yes

[near imp]

shock collar on my pet dog? What did DE mean by this?

[near imp]

another question, will this make my viral trigger less or what

[mighty flare]

no

[crimson osprey]

So whats everyone feel oberon will need shard wise with its upcoming TLC? im thinking ability str

[surreal cliff]

Whats a good build for mag MR 5 ?

[mighty flare]

Radiation ability damage and casting speed

[crimson osprey]

radiation ability damage?

[mighty flare]

Ability damage on enemies affected by radiation status

[crimson osprey]

looks kind of shitty, radiation damage, that is, for oberons kit. i tihnk im gonna go another route. thank you though

[lost hull]

Considering his 1 can insta zap an enemy for 75% of their health, rad damage should get it to 100%

That or you put roar on somewhere

Str or armor are mostly going to end up being for support past a threshold

[haughty sparrow]

Quick question how dangerous is the toxin status effect if your shield tanking?

[mighty flare]

Oberon can mod for his str breakpoints, ability damage is a unique multiplier that could potentially force his 75% cap into 100%
how valuable they will become will depend in 2 days

if you're not going for ability damage, i would still reccomend picking up casting speed

[crimson osprey]

Thanks, i normally run mine as a weapons platform that keeps everyone alive

[lost hull]

Very, as it ignores shields all together

[haughty sparrow]

Rolling guard it is

[lost hull]

That or if mod space is more precious than an arcane slot, there is one that makes you completely immune to the status proc

[mighty flare]

it doesnt protect against the toxin damage

secondary fortifier would be best bet

[lost hull]

Does the damage itself ignore shields as well?

[mighty flare]

yes

its why you see things like raw toxin on magistar

[lost hull]

Haven't actually seen that but k

[mighty flare]

uh

[lost hull]

Mostly would see slam builds

[mighty flare]

yes? magislam runs raw toxin

[lost hull]

Went in game and checked out the toxin thing..... tf de

[scarlet stream]

Ammo efficiency doesnt affect incarnon ammo at all right

[charred gale]

correct

[scarlet stream]

so this is beyond useless?

[mighty flare]

incarnoff setup, also which incarnon is this

[scarlet stream]

omg Ive never heard that term before lol. this is the lex

I can see why thatd be good for like the Onos, but not lex tbh

[mighty flare]

yes useless for lex

[scarlet stream]

classic

[mighty flare]

there are only a few incarnons that prefer their base form

lex isnt one of them

[scarlet stream]

felarx my beloved

[warped osprey]

current Torid Incarnon build is this okay?

[velvet pulsar]

For smite nuke, yes

[near vortex]

Looks good, although you'd rather have Corrosive Blast if you don't already have armor strip or put Vital Sense over Serration if you do have strip

[haughty sparrow]

Redid my xaku build
(4 tauforged reds for strength and 1 tauforged yellow for more energy from orbs)

[mighty flare]

neg dur xaku is bad

[haughty sparrow]

4th ability pauses all ability timers,i also have molt efficiency to move me up a bit in duration

Should i replace natural talent with continuity?

[mighty flare]

yes

you're also running the lost so theres no point in 2 slots in survivability

also flow over streamline

[velvet pulsar]

What aura mod for xaku if not corrosive projection?

[haughty sparrow]

Why flow? Doesn't that just help with holding energy?

[haughty sparrow]

I don't have that mod yet so I'm just using gaze to armour strip

[velvet pulsar]

I used to have Mecha Empowered but it's useless on Xaku

[velvet pulsar]

I mean it's a question for my build

I'm already gonna reach 200% str, I won't need corrosive projection

[haughty sparrow]

I guess energy siphon

[warped osprey]

How do I know if it have armour strip?

[velvet pulsar]

No way

[near vortex]

Are you running armor strip on your frame, focus school or other source?

[mighty flare]

gaze full strips at 200% str

you have way too much str then

[haughty sparrow]

No such thing

[mighty flare]

yes

[warped osprey]

No
Which one is for school?

[mighty flare]

you're running neg duration

[velvet pulsar]

Limited mod slot is a thing

[haughty sparrow]

I can just spam 4 to keep em up

[near vortex]

Yeah you don't need lots of strength on Xaku because guns scale with enemy level

[near vortex]

Unairu has armor strip

[velvet pulsar]

I'm gonna go check Naramon aura mods for options

[mighty flare]

at 251 energy and 75% eff?

[haughty sparrow]

Yes,i got a yellow tauforged shard that gives me more energy from le orbs

[mighty flare]

you cant even complete a full ability rotation

[velvet pulsar]

Ok I'm gonna either equip Loot Detector for cratebreaker or simply Empowered Blades for hating slammers.

[haughty sparrow]

"Full ability rotation" does that include accuse and deny? I rarely use those

[mighty flare]

thats only with gaze in mind

theres no reason to not just use flow over streamline

[haughty sparrow]

For what reason though? That only increases the amount I'm allowed to hold doesn't it?

Wait do energy orbs despawn over time? ._.

[warped osprey]

what mods should i remove if i want to run corrosive blast?

[velvet pulsar]

From what I've noticed, yes

[mighty flare]

when you cant do xata + grasp of lohk + gaze + vast untime in a quick combo
more max energy is pretty good

[haughty sparrow]

I'll try it just once

[velvet pulsar]

Also I agree with flow over streamline

[near vortex]

Serration

You have Merciless for base damage already so Serration isn't needed

Put in an electric mod over Serration and you have Corrosive blast

[mighty flare]

smthing like this

im pretty sure xaku doesnt even need cata either

i just run rolling guard

[warped osprey]

i changed it like u said and i got radiation instead of corrosive

[near vortex]

Swap rime rounds and stormbringer

[haughty sparrow]

Ok I'm starting to see what y'all mean by using flow

[near vortex]

The order you have the elements matters

[haughty sparrow]

I'm not rich in umbra forma dawg

I only use it for melee weapons

[mighty flare]

you dont use umbra forma for that

[warped osprey]

thx

[haughty sparrow]

"umbral intensify"

[haughty sparrow]

Is the equilibrium for health gain or energy? It sounds like a good idea tbh

[mighty flare]

energy

[mighty flare]

just cuz you use an umbra mod doesnt mean you use umbra forma

[chrome badge]

umbral intensifies

[haughty sparrow]

I'm gonna try replacing molt efficiency with something and also adding equilibrium while removing fast deflection

[haughty sparrow]

This is the final build i made

I can't care less for more energy gain since i only use his 4th as a way to keep the other 3 abilities active

[near vortex]

Relentless Lost is probably unnecessary unless that's a placeholder for the update

[haughty sparrow]

What's gonna be given during the update?

[near vortex]

A new Xaku augment for Xaku's 4

Called Untime Rift, I believe

Looks pretty decent based on what we know

It's the only one of the four Pablo has shown

[haughty sparrow]

What does it do?

[mighty flare]

wouldnt use lost augment
transient is kinda eh slot, esp with no molt efficiency

[haughty sparrow]

Transient offers more strength then umbral intensify,plus the duration is already positive

I will remove the lost augment though

[near vortex]

Uh
Something about doubling the effect of debuffs? I don't remember for sure but it sounded worth messing with

[haughty sparrow]

The void damage vulnerability would be awesome if it was doubled

However the problem with the vast untime is it's a ability that can't be spammed very well due to it being the ultimate

[near vortex]

Energy Economy my beloved

Do you have Grimoire?

[haughty sparrow]

I do actually

(i forgot it existed)

[near vortex]

How

Grimoire is my favorite secondary weapon easily

[haughty sparrow]

The tome mods are great

The tome itself is meh

[near vortex]

The tome is sick wdym

The tome mods make some builds actually really funny

Like my theorycrafting Wisp maximum motes that I need to finish still

[haughty sparrow]

Theorycrafting?

[haughty sparrow]

Slapped forma on them,primed flow will replace flow and fast deflection will replace the augment (PSF will be removed also lol)

[lethal bison]

so gang, double sacrificial or galv steel + ppp?

[charred gale]

on?

[lethal bison]

exalted blade but only to stack slash dash dmg

[charred gale]

does slash dash even proc galv steel

[lethal bison]

that's what i have been wondering

i don't think it even procs blood rush/weeping wounds

[haughty sparrow]

Have you tried arcane avenger?

[charred gale]

i guess test that first

[solar reef]

it does, as far as I know

it worked when we had stat sticks

i would imagine its the same now with Exalted Blade as its stat stick

oh how i miss doughty Ceramic Incarnon Slash Dash

[velvet pulsar]

Astral Bond hound will have great synergy with Xaku's new augment

Synth Deconstruct will also mean faster energy regen

Manifold Bond can also proc universal fallout

[lethal bison]

right. so to increase slash dash dmg we get more crits or more str?

[peak sierra]

https://youtu.be/VRgy0ehaXvE?si=VXW8lFYmCMnYxWh7

Great build

[mortal crest]

Hey Shall I do Slash+ Viral or Corrosive+ Heat in Dex Nikana?? Which one suits best?

[mighty flare]

viral

[mellow nest]

The dog had actually been at that spot for like hours at that point, its so sad

[mortal crest]

Thx

[peak sierra]

4 hours of anxiety and boredom

Not healthy at all

[charred gale]

doesnt matter what the thunder god wants, the thunder god gets

[sour compass]

so 100% void vulnerability and a relatively easy 100% slow?

[wanton swift]

[sour compass]

Im hyped

[tardy vale]

chat am i strong enough

[pale belfry]

weak to corpus

[tardy vale]

;c

[pale belfry]

idk, but next update, you gonna play with corpus most the time, if you fine with that

[pale tiger]

guys is arcane truculence a good arcane to use on ember

[mighty flare]

its okay, need to be using healing flame or fortifier

[pale tiger]

but healing flame only gives a small amount of overguard so will ember be able to actively proc the arcane

[mighty flare]

toss up, i dont run it cuz lots of other ways to get viral

[pale tiger]

what arcane should i run instead

[mighty flare]

depends, are you running ember as a weapon platformer?

[pale tiger]

yeh

i have hotshot in one slot

[mighty flare]

whats ur main weapon? if secondary arcane precision good, if melee arcane fury/strike good, if primary, arcane acceleration/tempo good

[pale tiger]

ok thx

is eruption good for cc

[mighty flare]

meme pick, but it somewhat works lol

[velvet pulsar]

Either spam energy orbs or have a way to slow enemies

Or both

[grave cloak]

you can use any weapon with any frame?

oh nvm

was about to say you would ideally want something with high multishot on mag to work with her bubbles but then you deleted it so

[proven palm]

well cause i asked in other chat so didn't wanted to double it. you stack multishot on Fulmin as well right?

[grave cloak]

I'd imagine so yeah

[velvet pulsar]

BTW not every infinite punch through projectile has multi hitting capability

Tenet Arca plasmor has, coz it can bounce
IDK if fulmin has, as it can't bounce, it's uncertain

[wanton swift]

So the semi-shot of the fulmin doesn't work for the multi-shot?

[velvet pulsar]

IDK about that
I'm talking about a different effect majorly seen in case of mag & ivara

It's when the exact same projectile tries to hit the exact same enemy again

Like nataruk in mag's bubble circles inside, but if there's no new enemy inside the bubble, after a second or 2 you'll notice that the projectile is still revolving but it isn't damaging the older existing enemies inside the bubble

There will be no damage numbers

[wanton swift]

aaaaaaahh

If the shot from the fulmin disappears, I think, in a style similar to what happens with the steflos.

Because it has a limit on the distance it travels if I'm not mistaken.

[velvet pulsar]

Sadly this effect is extremely inconsistent and doesn't follow a guaranteed rule of identification.

Only a rare amount of projectiles can hit the same enemy again.
2 easy categories of such projectiles are:
Bouncing projectiles like tenet arca plasmor
Continuous aura damage projectile like grimoire alt fire or zenistar disc

[wanton swift]

yep

The same thing happens with the verdilac and its special animation that launches a projectile, even though it has area damage when it hits an enemy directly it disappears even though it seems to be a plasma shot which are the ones that usually go through enemies

[velvet pulsar]

That's probably my fault

Lemme bring up my forum complaint

[wanton swift]

[velvet pulsar]

So I complained it several times that this effect is limiting options for Ivara's navigator.

I continued with the flow and mentioned a bug where navigator disables punch through for projectiles which have tendency to slowdown after passing through an enemy

That included Verdilac & Exodia Contagion

[wanton swift]

All this already showed what the other increases were going to be besides Xaku's?

[velvet pulsar]

I said "if this bug gets fixed, verdilac will be very ideal option for navigator"

I guess DE tried a stealth fix as a test, it didn't help navigator ivara to turn her into Archon Nira, but instead everyone else who wanted to get rid of attenuation

[wanton swift]

I don't think they looked at that unless they want to make a complete change to those projectiles throughout the game. Until then, it could easily take several years.

[wanton swift]

Likewise, I think that sometimes the Verdilac can kill several enemies if you don't hit them directly, but only hitting them in the legs is a bit strange.

[velvet pulsar]

The slowdown projectiles?
Probably why they might've decided to stealth test with verdilac instead of contagion because anyone barely used it.

I wonder if next patch fixes it, or next to next patch, coz they changed dmg attenuation

[wanton swift]

and the verdilac is quite strong, it's fun to use with mag or mirage

[velvet pulsar]

It has infinite wall punch through! Not just body punch through

[wanton swift]

With Mag, the area damage makes up for not penetrating enemies.

[velvet pulsar]

Like the only other melee projectiles I found with this ability are innodem projectile and syam projectile

Innodem projectile is unfortunately terribly weak
And syam projectile...

[velvet pulsar]

https://youtu.be/q1nu8W6znDk?si=09DjNqSR-zFwbmx7

It's an uncontrollable dizzifier

[wanton swift]

hahahahaha

[hollow osprey]

Ah

[wanton swift]

Only someone with enormous reflexes and quite a bit of skill could control something like that.

[hollow osprey]

Hi guys
I have a question
I have incarnon on base braton but i now got the braton prime
Should i put the incarnon on the prime or i just sell the parts?

[wanton swift]

prime

100%

It's a good incarnon and the Braton Prime isn't worth much, just 10 pl. You earn more using the incarnon than selling the Braton.

[velvet pulsar]

Prime incarnon usually better except 2 exceptions:
Vasto
Sybaris

[haughty sparrow]

Oberon rework tomorrow

Ngl it never made sense to me how he can give health regen but doesn't have the armour needed to actually health tank

[lost hull]

When he was made, I don't even think sorties were a thing yet. So below level 100 was the power level

[solar reef]

health thanking frames came 3 years after Oberon did

[grave cloak]

is this a good constant source of energy regen? thinking of dumping efficiency on harrow.

[haughty sparrow]

If you can get kills then yeah

[grave cloak]

I intend to get kills on exterminate missions on earth

probably star chart

[haughty sparrow]

Doesn't really matter where you bring it

The energy you get is based off if you can kill or not with your weapons or subsumed abilities

[grave cloak]

chat can we have a true

preferably a morgan freeman true

[haughty sparrow]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Primary_Deadhead the fact we can use this on shotguns is such a blessing

[pale belfry]

the problem about deadshot is you need to be a headshot machine

or use it on single enemy shot

[mellow nest]

Its got 24 s though, much better than merciless, if you struggle to actually get kills

[pale belfry]

both 360% (merciless and deadhead)

different is sub stat

which is QOL and dmg output

Like i said, 30% headshot multiplier only when you shoot into the weakpoint

If you cant do that, you got nothing from +30% to Headshot Multiplier

24 seconds is not count on that btw. It is different..

[mellow nest]

Merciless has a 4 s stack decay, which makes it almost impossible to actually hold if you cant get the last hits, while a headshot is more likely to outright kill, granting you 24 s timeout to get another with Deadhead

[pale belfry]

it is not much different

dont you ask why people still use merciless over deadhead ?

[mellow nest]

Well it is ingame, imo, especially since op seems to have trouble actually getting the lasthit

People use it because they can get the last hit

[pale belfry]

Not really

[mellow nest]

Certain frames like Protea can make it hard still to get the last hits, even with high end weapons

[pale belfry]

it also give reload speed and easy sustain

With deadhead

+30% to Headshot Multiplier is only when you shoot into the weakpoint

it is like acuity mod, only work when shoot into weakpoint

[mellow nest]

And dont forget about the stack decay

[pale belfry]

stack decay doesnt matter

as long as you still shoot

its not even hard to sustain

except your build too shit and cant even get a kill

[mellow nest]

What if theres no enemies

Or you use a sniper or another slow firing weapon

[pale belfry]

Just get good

[mellow nest]

Sure man, thats an opinion someone can have

[grave cloak]

[mellow nest]

I think they're pretty equal, just depends on what you run with. Frame and weapon wise

[pale belfry]

"Its got 24 s though, much better than merciless, if you struggle to actually get kills" - "i think they're pretty equal"

OK, stop right here

[mellow nest]

"Well it is ingame, imo, especially since op seems to have trouble actually getting the lasthit"
Right, dont forget the important bit lol

[pale belfry]

when you did said that? before or after?

🤡

[mellow nest]

I also put the condition right in that sentence, so not sure what youre on about. I can reiterate if that helps you understand it:
If you struggle to get the last hits on the enemies, be it due to your teammates or perhaps abilities like Blaze Artillery etc, then you will time out really quick on Merciless, making Deadhead much better in that instance, that scenario.
If that isnt the case, then they are pretty equal, in my opinion, however it largely depends on the setup youre running.

[pale belfry]

last hit?

both arcane are last hit

lmao, do you actually play the game?

[mellow nest]

Right, but if you refer to this
Merciless has a 4 s stack decay, which makes it almost impossible to actually hold if you cant get the last hits, while a headshot is more likely to outright kill, granting you 24 s timeout to get another with Deadhead

Then perhaps you might understand why it makes sense

[pale belfry]

🤡

[mellow nest]

If you really need to try and make me look dumb or smth then you've already lost the argument

[grave cloak]

no worries the guy makes himself look dumb regularly

[pale belfry]

Nope, just see how fun you keep avoiding all context i said

[mellow nest]

It also very much possible to have our opinions coexist with no fight

[grave cloak]

don't even need you to try

[pale belfry]

can you keep +30% to Headshot Multiplier?

[mellow nest]

I had a run it like that before, yeah. However at the end of the day we will likely still interact again here, so imo its just not productive in the long run

[pale belfry]

dont you ask why people use merciless on general purpose instead of deadhead?

[mellow nest]

Well no, I dont ask it, I know the answer. In fact, I already wrote it earlier. You had a different opinion, which was valid too

[pale belfry]

No

Its didnt say anything

You completely know nothing

and i bet you afk most the time right?

[mellow nest]

Yeah you did

[pale belfry]

If you have a problem with merciless sustain

it is make sense

[mellow nest]

Well tbh I dont have much experience in teamplay, I exclusively play all content solo or duo

So far I havent really hit a wall there, so I guess that speaks for me

[pale belfry]

"euqal" - "better"

make sense

[mellow nest]

Fairly equal =! Better if

I agree if you word it like that

[pale belfry]

if != {} this is how you should write if you want something coding

wrong syntax, next

[mellow nest]

Again, if you need to try to make me look dumb then I dont think you've got anything to add to the conversation anymore

[sweet solar]

Anybody got a suggestion for a Grendel prime build

[grave cloak]

subsume breach surge over his 3, use the augment for his 4, build max range

[grave cloak]

idk about you but I really don't see the validity in trying to argue against someone who doesn't believe in using roar as a subsume

[mellow nest]

I dont use it personally, havent yet needed it soooo :D guess he and I agree there. Not that its bad, its crazy actually

[sweet solar]

What are some mods you recommend

[pale belfry]

i dont argue with a kid still rage by not accepting people not using roar

[grave cloak]

give me 5 mins am in a mission

[pale belfry]

You should know how the roar work

[sweet solar]

Alr dw

[grave cloak]

oh yeah of course we all know how roar works, except you apparently

[mellow nest]

For Range you have Stretch, Overextended, Augur Reach basically

[grave cloak]

[mellow nest]

What do you mean?

[pale belfry]

and ask why people not using roar and use xata, nourish, .. other subsume

[mellow nest]

I think its perfectly fine not to use it. In fact Im not sure you actually need it for any normal Steel Path content

[grave cloak]

that's not what I said little man

but try again

[pale belfry]

dont be rage kid

i use what i want

[grave cloak]

it's okay to be bad at the game little man

[pale belfry]

i can caculate the dmg output

[grave cloak]

no one will judge you

[pale belfry]

not like you

ok, someone who dont even have full subsume and say someone bad

lmao

[grave cloak]

of course, I take frames and weapons to level cap casually without "full subsume"

what about you?

[pale belfry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhGcVboJ7L0&t=585s

you should come to this video as well

[grave cloak]

that's your video or?

[pale belfry]

say him dumb because he not using roar

=]]

[grave cloak]

oh don't worry, I think you're just really stupid if you thought that I said "use roar on all your frames"

huge emphasis on "really stupid"

but go ahead, surprise me again

[pale belfry]

<@&778745217037238293>

🤣

[vernal blaze]

[sweet solar]

Hello Alyxis

[mellow nest]

I recommend checking ninjase's build on overframe. I wouldnt copy it personally but rather take inspiration from it. Make sure to read the guide text on it, which explains how to sustain yourself and survive in higher tier content.
Once you know how he works best you can make that build
https://overframe.gg/build/547378/grendel-prime/the-eternal-hunger-regurgitate-dps-grendel-non-helminth/

[sweet solar]

I see

Alright thanks

[mellow nest]

The info on ninjases guides is the best part about them imo

[sweet solar]

What kinda weapon would you prefer?

I keep forgetting that every frame I play usually has a surrounding style around a specific weapon

With Grendel I have absolutely no clue

[mellow nest]

Me neither bro, I just use whatever

You can use the Kebab stick if you want his signature weapons ig

Epitath is crazy good for priming, easy choice

[devout bridge]

There is a video that explains it but I don't know if you understand Spanish.

[true mauve]

@queen sandal AHHH sorry to bother but i was wondering, do you play sevagoths shadow? was gonna ask how you built the shadow itself for survivability since i kinda wanna run a sevagoth shadow build it feels fun 😭

[queen sandal]

Yeah

Love shadow

[true mauve]

IT FEELS SO GOOD I HATE THE ROAR OVER 4 BUILD

[queen sandal]

I use preparation steel charge high strength and efficiency

[queen sandal]

How did yk I mained him tf

[queen sandal]

And rolling guard for extended invincibility

[true mauve]

weve talked before nd ive seen u in chat also its in ur pfp ur name ur bio

[queen sandal]

Oh kk

[mellow nest]

This guy has a million Sevagoths

Literally, hes the Sevaguy

[queen sandal]

I also like using the parkour velocity arcane on him for funsies

[true mauve]

oh word so we had similar ideas, i ran a shield gating set up with quick thinking incase i get slimed out, was thinking of swapping it for range tho since the shadow had more survivability than i gave it credit for

[queen sandal]

Lmao
Well hope I helped

[true mauve]

ill try arcane velocity :o i ran amars anguish, but you dont rlly need the teleport since ur grouping is rlly strong as is

may swap it out for a drift mod

[near vortex]

Isn't fast deflection vigilante vigor good for survival on shadow

[true mauve]

also does the life steal you gain from 2 and gloom only apply to health or is it shields too?

[true mauve]

i mean makes sense if it does, i likely have fast deflection on shadow knowing me T_T

im NOT a sevagoth main i just wanna have a funny shadow build because roar over 4 is so boring

[near vortex]

Could always go pull the Ninjase build for shadow and shadow claws

[queen sandal]

Check DMs

[ebon lion]

What mods should i look for when building titania

And recommendations?

[fathom sky]

Can start from here https://overframe.gg/build/215181/

[shell tundra]

Question: given that having >100% status chance allows for multiple status procs in one damage instance, with the order of status proc chance coinciding with status weighting, what happens when I have two procs that have the same weighting? Is it like a coin flip?

[fathom sky]

Best way to think of is just like a spinner. Every time your SC says you get a status effect to proc, you roll for which element that status effect uses. More % simply means more likely to roll that one. Each SC proc is rolled independently.

So you can have Cold and Impact, Rad and Cold, Impact and Corro, two Cold procs, whatever if you roll 2 status effects.

[shell tundra]

That makes a lot of sense

So like how cooked am I if I want to use that status lineup for an enervate + frostbite build?

[fathom sky]

What gun

[shell tundra]

Larkspur Prime

I have a riven that buffs CD

And I also use Tenacious Bond on my shoulder buddy

[fathom sky]

Oh yeah Archgun Arcane that's beyond me

[shell tundra]

Mb

All I know is that the one thing that’s gonna stop me from playing the update the instant it comes out is that I have a load of homework to do

[zealous rapids]

there is also a huge download size and time to optimize after it

[deep grotto]

what's the ideal element for a Kuva Hek or Sobek?

[zealous rapids]

it's usually heat or toxin for kuva guns

[deep grotto]

any gun??

[zealous rapids]

if you don't have outside source of toxin, you should put that on sobek

[deep grotto]

understood

[mighty flare]

(for sobek) cold/magnetic if saryn/oraxia/cyte

hek is toxin/magnetic

[deep grotto]

noted

[mighty flare]

heat?

[zealous rapids]

since elemental vice is a thing now, you can try all the elements if you like the gun

I use heat for ogris, tonkor and bramma

[mighty flare]

why?

[zealous rapids]

to combine into blast

[deep grotto]

I probably won't be able to access that for a little while, hence why i'm asking

[mighty flare]

external viral?

[zealous rapids]

yeah, i usually run with a hound that apply tons of statuses

[deep grotto]

ig i'll go for heat for now
My secondary (and equally as important) goal is to get the ephemeras

[signal saffron]

am i right or wrong but arcane impetus looks ass

[mighty flare]

for which one?

[deep grotto]

liches

[signal saffron]

i was thinking about doing a combo with this and decoy but it might be trolling

[mighty flare]

ah nvm

[deep grotto]

Sisters are more annoying to get so i'm saving them for later

[zealous rapids]

it's sooo good on koumei

[mighty flare]

not slottable on most frames

[signal saffron]

what about the loki decoy augment

if i mixed it with nyx

[mighty flare]

nyx doesnt need str or eff

but decoy augment itself is okay thing for nyx

[signal saffron]

i used it for mind control and efficeincy because im not using primed flow but i think u right

[mighty flare]

you could just use seismic bond on your companion and save the slot

[zealous rapids]

it's also pretty fun to run on dante with encumber noctua

[signal saffron]

ur right

[mighty flare]

seismic bond is only -9% less eff than 13 impetus but you can an entire arcane slot

[deep grotto]

hmmm

twin stubbas...
should i get?

Welp bro died so nvm

I’m gonna abort so it stays in rotation tho

[hollow osprey]

thanks

[deep grotto]

she is real
she's unfortunately the one that calls you "Little Meat" but ig i'll have to endure it

[haughty sparrow]

Y'all should i subsume roar over Xaku's 1st ability,i usually have a lot of unused energy left over and I'm wondering if it will be a good idea

[ebon lion]

THANK YOU

[fathom sky]

Their one isn't doing anything for Lohk anyway, so yeah

[signal saffron]

nah its role play i think might be wrong tho

im sure there are better dual wield machine pistols

[deep grotto]

Mr fodder
Oka
Although my ahh probably gonna get it later anyway exclusively because you said “there are better dual machine pistols”

[wraith lynx]

Do you guys know what gives with Rivens that have Initial Combos that are not integers? Like, if I have a Glaive Prime Riven with 12.9 Initial Combo ... Do I start with 12 or 13?

[haughty sparrow]

Try the dual coda torxica

[haughty sparrow]

I got a bit of a question does nourish change the elemental weight of the weapon or does it have its own status chance? (I'm running cascadia flare)

[valid cargo]

Are the builds on this channel reliable?

[granite ginkgo]

if u want to focus cascade, the build as generally (outside of cascade) is quite bad

[granite ginkgo]

nourish just proc viral as standalone element, and guarantee status proc

[haughty sparrow]

So it won't mess with my ability to consistently get heat procs in?

Neat

[charred gale]

if it can level cap then its more than enough for anything else

[true mauve]

MY BABYS: THE TWIN STUBBAS

i lov my kuva twin stubbas tho as a gun they're okay from what i understand, just biased cuz it was my first lich gun

[latent adder]

It will yes

Nourish acts like modded elements and will reduce weighting of other elements

High strength nourish is very bad for status builds

[haughty sparrow]

Thanks for the info

I'm gonna use roar instead for mesa

[charred schooner]

Tastes good, but I need to offload biri biri procs to my companion's Verglas to take full advantage of Conjuction Voltage. Any second opinions?

[granite ginkgo]

biri biri?

[charred schooner]

electricity

I can swap Primed Gambit with Creeping Bullseye for a bit more crit chance without compromising fire rate, because it's already at fire rate cap and Lethal Torrent went above it.

[haughty sparrow]

Where are you getting the electric for conjunction voltage

[charred schooner]

Companion's Verglas

[haughty sparrow]

Ah

[shell tundra]

I wanna make sure my math’s right

The bit underlined in green is the CD I get from my riven, the bit underlined in orange is the CD buff from Primary Frostbite, the bit underlined in blue is from the wiki’s CD calculations, and the bit underlined in red is the base CD of the Larkspur Prime

And this is all before the final +1.2x CD multiplier I get from Tenacious Bond on my shoulder buddy, and not counting the CD buff I get from Cold’s status effect. If I were to factor those in, I’d leave with a 7.3x CD

[true mauve]

im hearing a frost angle

[haughty sparrow]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Reinforced_Bond i feel like this thing is slept on,free 60% fire rate buff and it even helps itself stay active by giving your pet shields every time you reload

[shell tundra]

One eensy teensy tiny problem, Wyrm Prime is the only shoulder buddy that doesn’t require external buffs

[granite ginkgo]

does sentinel can reach 1.2k shied? i only know beast pet can do that

[shell tundra]

The only reason I’m able to use it on Shade Prime is because I pretty much have Hildryn’s Haven(3) on as much as possible

[shell tundra]

Wyrm Prime can hit that using the shoulder buddy shield mod

[charred schooner]

Wyrm Prime, Nautilus, and Nautilus Prime with the companion Redirection mod.

Observe wyrm. Grasp the wyrm. Embrace the wyrm. For it is all you ever need.

[haughty sparrow]

Even if a companion cant reach 1.2K the shields given from reload go into overshields

[haughty sparrow]

I've heard a lot of good things about this sentinel but i forgot what it's abilities do

[charred schooner]

Negate + High shields for Reinforced Bond, really.

[haughty sparrow]

I just checked the wiki for negate,it sounds awesome

[charred schooner]

A lifesaver, but I don't think it plays well with Manifold Bond's cooldown reduction. Still worth.

[mighty flare]

negate works with manifold

[safe raptor]

who's got a tenet glaxion with normal mods on it

[tender estuary]

which one would be better to play with? magistar or sancti incarnon?

[gusty nova]

normal is normally considered better

[pale belfry]

sancti give you more status chance but lower crit dmg

[astral tinsel]

Normal, but Sancti has life steal

[lethal bison]

is reflex worth on normal melee builds, not heavy strike oriented?

[pale belfry]

gal reflex yes

[midnight horizon]

Like what

[astral tinsel]

Not really

better to use a combo duration mod at that point

[midnight horizon]

I'd also just use naramon / dexterity arcanes

[steep oasis]

Is the reworked oberon's smite good for armor strip as subsumed ability?

[mighty flare]

its a single target strip with aoe dealing current health% scaling so it's not as usable for any frame as terrify/pillage is

we also dont know if subsume has og removal too

[steep oasis]

Ok ty

[proven palm]

Guys what weapon to use on Mag before Tenet Arca Plasmor. i mean my MR is 11, almost 12. It will be a while till i'm 16. Was using Normal Arca Plasmor or Fulmin till now

[potent marten]

Nataruk should do a good job

[digital cliff]

im playing khora any suggest for my melee mods ?

[grave cloak]

Use melee vortex on your whipclaw to pull in enemies if you're farming with strangledome

[proven palm]

any non bow options? i'm not a fan of bows

[pale belfry]

influsence

[pale belfry]

have you access Steelpath mode?

[gleaming vapor]

oh it’s meat

[potent marten]

Everything with infinity or high enough pun h through

[visual kettle]

what should i change?

[grave cloak]

your arcane

[visual kettle]

ik i need to max it

[grave cloak]

not exactly sure where your electricity is coming from to take advantage of influence

[grave cloak]

wasn't even talking about maxing your arcane 🗿

[visual kettle]

yah, i was planning to change my build for that

but idk what to use, gas elec? blast elec?

i use nourish for viral

[grave cloak]

nourish wukong?

[visual kettle]

yes :)

[grave cloak]

that's some tech I guess

but just take out virulent scourge and molten impact for pure elec

[deep edge]

is it normal that when i use nezha 4, i cant use thermal sunder? when i did that, the thermal sunder shows "ability in use"

[visual kettle]

i use this for staff dmg

[grave cloak]

nourish will mess with your elec weighting on your iron staff js

especially high strength nourish

[true mauve]

it is a thing that does work

oh wrong reaction but right person i meant to reply to the nourish kong, ye its one of the more common options just wraithful is usually picked cuz funny reds

im prolly gonna convert mine to a spy frame because i ran him all the way through base star chart nd like i just find other frames more fun all the kong hate aside

[true mauve]

oh btw kongs primal rage for the ppl who dont know is added w crit mods, not flat ☝️ im only mentioning because i was new to the game and did NOT know a thing about flat crit, added w mods, yada yada. so if your still early and have wraithful on ur kong and its not rlly needed but still funny reds get funnier

[midnight horizon]

Aside from Forma, anything I can do? (I'm an MR8, Galve Mods are accessible to me, but other mods like Amalgam and others is still not clear to me on how to farm them)

[sacred sapphire]

which is better?

[mellow nest]

Amalgam depends on the mods.
The general ones like Amalgam Serration come from the Thermia Event in Orb Vallis. You gotta get canisters and fill them up with thermia at thermia fractures. After 4 runs with a single canister or 2 with 2 or 1 with 4 canisters, depending on squad, you get a Diluted Thermia.
Doing the thermia runs will grant you points towards the event counter.

Weapon specific Amalgam mods come from the Jupiter Ropapolyst Assassination node. None of these are actually really good or required. The Amalgam Ripkas one grants 20% reload speed to shotguns for example, but youd have to use the ripkas lol

[mellow nest]

Switch Sacrifical Steel for the base version, it doesnt do anything for you here and eats up your mod capacity

[latent adder]

Right

U can basically stop

[cunning hill]

which one?

[midnight horizon]

Switched it to True Steel instead hahahah

[latent adder]

Right

[radiant cradle]

in what situations would you want sacrificial steel/pressure instead of their regular versions? on the same vein, umbral mods and when to use them over regular?

[mellow nest]

Sacrifical provides 220% crit chance vs 120% from True Steel. You would use it if you have the endo and mod capacity. There is also Galvanized Steel for up to 230% crit chance at max stacks, but the Umbral Mod is actually a bit better here arguably, sacrificing 10% crit for Tau resistance and more dmg vs sentients

Speaking of the mods at max lvl ofc

[radiant cradle]

so if i have the capacity and resources to max them, the umbral/sacrificials are better?

[mellow nest]

Sacrifical Steel, yes

[radiant cradle]

but not pressure or the umbrals?

[mellow nest]

Primed Pressure Point is 165% vs 110% (137,5% set bonus) +33% vs sentients

[clear crest]

How do yall feel about a “1000%” str nokko think its viable?

[mellow nest]

However Condition Overload is 80% for every status effect on the target, so at only 2 effects youre already as good as the others. Priming is very easy so its the best option by far. It also only takes 930 Endo to max instead of 40.000 Endo (and -1 mod capacity) and uses a Madurai polarity instead of an Umbral one in the case of Sacrifical Pressure Point

[severe bough]

In 2 hours he comes out right?

[radiant cradle]

so best would be primed pressure in that case?

[mellow nest]

No, Condition Overload because of priming and Endo cost

[radiant cradle]

does primed condition overload exist?

[severe bough]

It depends on the weapon your using what the base stats are if you using heavy if your going for light if u got priming evolved

[mellow nest]

Your companion can prime your targets or you can use a secondary or abilities to do so. The popular choice is the Arcane Melee Influence

[mellow nest]

No

Condition Overload is broken enough already I think

[radiant cradle]

what do you mean by prime in this situation?

[mellow nest]

Oh sorry, didnt explain that

Priming means applying conditions/status effects like heat, Corrosive, Viral, etc to the enemy. Depending on the elements, this can enhance damage, reduce armor or just stun them. This is called priming an enemy and its a fundamental concept of modern WF gameplay on higher lvls

[pale belfry]

There really hard to get primed Condition Overload, because beside condition overload, we got Gun Condition overload, which is Galvanized status mods

How you think we gonna get primed galvanized mod?

[mellow nest]

This one is what hes talking about

[severe bough]

Multiple Statuses to "prime" the enemy basically means because CO (Condition overload) gives you 80% base dmg on every Status effect the enemy is effected of. Priming with Viral,coro and so on

[lethal bison]

you vill use ze triple umbrals

[severe bough]

[pale belfry]

Imagine we actually get tenet xoris like pablo said

maybe there is a little chance to get primed galvanized

🤣

[severe bough]

Lets first hope the update will be good today

[radiant cradle]

is there a video you recommend or a search i can use to find such a video in order to better understand this? i feel like i already do that by putting the elements on my weapon to apply them to enemies

[mellow nest]

The elements? Watch any video from the past few years on it. Older ones have the old damage system. You can also refer to this little guide I made

[pale belfry]

"WONT"

[mellow nest]

Elemental Combinations
Try to understand the elements, read their descriptions and look at the factions you're engaging. They are resistant and vulnerable to different elements.
The best choice will also depend on your weapons and gear.

Status effects:

• Blast - additional explosion

• Corrosive - up to 80% armor shred

• Gas - creates AoE damage clouds

• Magnetic - increases damage to Shield / Overguard and detonates it

• Radiation - enemies attack each other

• Viral - increases damage to Health (this is mandatory for high lvl, you want some source be it Nourish subsume, Companion or directly on your weapon)

• Cold - slow/stun, increases critical damage

• Electricity - stun, chain damage

• Heat - up to 50% armor shred, DoT

• Toxin - bypasses Shields, DoT

Factions:

• Grineer (have Armor, no Shield) - Viral / Corrosive / Heat / Viral + Heat / Corrosive + Heat
• Corpus (no Armor, high Shield) - Toxin / Magnetic / Magnetic + Toxin
• Infested (no Armor, no Shield) - Viral / Heat / Viral + Heat / Magnetic + Heat
• Deimos Infested (have Armor, no Shield, resistant to Viral, immune to Viral proc) - Blast / Gas / Magnetic + Heat / Magnetic + Gas
• Orokin (Corrupted) (have Armor, rarely Shield) - Viral / Corrosive / Viral + Heat
• Murmur (have Armor, no shields) - Viral /Corrosive / Radiation / Viral + Heat

[lethal bison]

primed condition overload be like: +120% dmg per status

[pale belfry]

always hot fix, imagine a glitch like jade the shadows used to

[radiant cradle]

i am copying that and putting it in my notebook for later

[pale belfry]

lmao

[mellow nest]

@radiant cradle i also have a list of warframe mechanics to research based on where you are in the game, if you are interested

Well, mechanics and topics all around

[lethal bison]

looking at the factions it's sad how heat + viral just dominates the game

[mellow nest]

True that

Its all viral basically, unless you can outsource it, which is typically done via companion or Nourish