builds-discussion

[mellow nest]

Multishot adds more instances of applying damage and the status procs

[velvet pulsar]

Tazicor has 20m range, is a chain beam, primes quickly

Helstrum has more range, primes slower, has AoE homing missiles

[signal saffron]

ok tazicor better than for this ig?

[velvet pulsar]

I recommend Tazicor for your case

[signal saffron]

interesting ok

let me go farm that quick LOL

[mellow nest]

Fortuna, legs, 10k standing, rank 5 @signal saffron

And some fishy ingredients

[signal saffron]

something tells me i gotta grind 5 days for this

[mellow nest]

Nah

[velvet pulsar]

Metal gear fishing

[mellow nest]

Consult the wiki, Id expect about 5 - 10 minutes

[signal saffron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqmVVGnMDx8

this is where i first found it btw

[signal saffron]

hope so thanks

[signal saffron]

brb

[potent raft]

good?

[signal saffron]

its fine

[potent raft]

it can be better?

[charred gale]

Bad weapon

[velvet pulsar]

Yep this isn't even using mind control

[potent raft]

but i like jagara...

[unreal bramble]

I was looking for a Saryn build, but everyone's subsuming miasma with weapon buffing abilities. Anyone knows a good build without roar/xata's... ?

[granite ginkgo]

look up for ninjase build

reason because 4th skill doesnt scale properly on enemies lvl, so u just basically stun enemies, no dot

[unreal bramble]

Ik It doesn't scale so well but since she's so strong i think i can do with a bit of flavour and not minmaxxing. But ty for the hint, i'll check it out

[grave cloak]

You can use omamori subsume instead of roar/xata

[dense whale]

Which build is better for falcor? Bounce or heavy?

[analog stirrup]

Are you used to detonating it? If no, go bounce.
Either works fine.

[granite ginkgo]

bounce, if u own R5 melee influence

[noble depot]

Can I improve?

[cyan parrot]

Anyone know what i can remove to slot in an electric? (i don't want to use cleanse mods if that matters)

[gaunt wasp]

Question: is this a good riven?

[signal saffron]

no

[gaunt wasp]

Well, don’t even have the Attica, so no problem there

[midnight horizon]

Does the Violet Archon Shard buff that makes energy orbs give some health and health orbs give some energy also apply to Universal orbs?

[kindred lion]

uh has anyone experienced this before? the stance mod is gone

ah nvm i'm dumb, i had to reopen it, now its fixed

anyways, i wanna build khora for melee duplicate instead of influence so only the enemies inside the dome would die, what do you guys suggest i replace the electric mods with?

[brittle sleet]

For farming Khora, consider Melee Vortex instead of Duplicate or Influence, so that you can pull enemies into the dome with Whipclaw

[kindred lion]

oooh i never thought of that one

[solar reef]

exposure is also just a better option than duplicate

[kindred lion]

yeah overall it is more dps but i opted to not use it cause nekros' desecrate wouldn't work on enemies killed by corrosive

or well it would work but they can't be dismembered after they die to further maximize the drops

[solar reef]

?????? khora’s whipclaw won’t dismember anyways

its base slash isnt high enough

you can also still dismember enemies killed with corrosive effects

[kindred lion]

oh yeah my friend will be doing that with the ripkas after they die, its a low range build

[kindred lion]

but i didn't know this though

i always thought since it alters their bodies after they die, it just wouldn't be possible to dismember them

yep i just tested it again, and they just explode and disintegrate if they die from a corrosive damage source

[stoic sky]

Hey guys. I just got Caliban prime. Need a little help with a REALLY good build for it and possibly where to acquire the stuff. Thanks in advance...

Pls dm if will ling to help

[devout bridge]

general build

[errant obsidian]

what element should I have on my kuva sobek for the most damage?
cuz rn it's pretty good but I wanted more damage, since killing singular enemies in sp is still not quite one shot
running this with saryn btw

[near vortex]

What you need to understand about Sobek is you ain't going to be oneshotting anything that isn't Corpus. It's a really strong room cleaning weapon, but it needs to ramp with Blight and Clip Delegation.

[stoic sky]

Any good status builds for Caliban prime? Im still kinda new to the game. Understand most of the mechanics. Just need a lil help acquiring necessary items and putting it together. Pls dm if willing to help. Thanks.

[mighty flare]

Add critical deceleration if you want more single target dps

If using several toxin dmg shards, you can use it over elementalist

[deep grotto]

Bro ignored the build someone just gave em

[stoic sky]

Actually i didnt.

I just took a closer look at it.

[deep grotto]

O

[tranquil plover]

this good or do we continue to gamble

[devout bridge]

reroll

[tranquil plover]

https://tenor.com/view/raxdflipnote-meme-gif-3914937335619787342

[astral tinsel]

still bad

[tranquil plover]

does mag nerf hit the incarnon

[astral tinsel]

no, but it lacks the best stats

[tranquil plover]

what stats do i want

[astral tinsel]

CD, CC, Multishot

fire rate perhaps

[tranquil plover]

oo, i do have elec built so this isnt horrid

[signal saffron]

still bad bro

[tranquil plover]

yeah well im out of kuva

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-5905854439703930680

guess it will have to do

[signal saffron]

did u do the pinions?

[tranquil plover]

the huh?

also w pfp great anime

[signal saffron]

void pinions u can exchange them for kuva u wanna do them together?

[onyx granite]

guys you know op build for nataruk?

[tranquil plover]

sure, after i carry my buddy through eta and eda

[astral tinsel]

do you have galvanized mods and longbow sharpshot?

[onyx granite]

galvanized yes longbow sharpshot no

@astral tinsel

but i can get it

[velvet pulsar]

I'm a new Garuda enjoyer
Is it logical to mod Streamline?

(I'm gonna spam reworked smite + dread ward)

[astral tinsel]

I run something close to this https://overframe.gg/build/279221/nataruk/nataruk-bones-of-the-sentient-electric-heat-gas-variations-updated-2025/

leave out the bane and exilus mod and it's a 0 forma build

[mighty flare]

dont rlly need it

[velvet pulsar]

Even if I get rid of my 2? (I'll have several other sources of inconsistent healing)

[mighty flare]

molt reconstruct exists

ik some ppl just use health regen shards

[velvet pulsar]

Haven't maxed it yet but will consider it

I use Sahasa Kubrow and Magus Repair

[mighty flare]

you dont need either of those

and reconstruct doesnt even needa be maxed anyway

[velvet pulsar]

Oh

Hmm I can directly replace molt augmented with that and replace streamline with a strength mod

[mighty flare]

whats ur setup rn

[velvet pulsar]

Max range
Transient Fortitude
Primed Continuity
Molt Eff
Molt augmented
Growing Power
Streamline

Primed Flow

Dread Ward

For smite, I'll need atleast 172%(total) str to get 60% health strip

[mighty flare]

what is smite going over

[velvet pulsar]

After which Dread Ward can one-shot an enemy
Smite goes over 2 for sure

I'll keep spamming 1 and 2, 4 for strong enemies, and charge 1 for nuke on even stronger enemies

Hold on I may not even need that much str

If I spam my 4

But that'll be more load on energy

Maybe I shouldn't get rid of streamline

[safe raptor]

Which one better

[velvet pulsar]

Visi

[mighty flare]

garuda gets 900 energy to play with using pflow, unless you're running rage, this shouldnt be an issue

[velvet pulsar]

Hmm alright

Umbral Intensify it is

[mighty flare]

and the idea of this is

60% smite into 40% dread mirror?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

That kills any lvl enemy even having overguard as well as proc Dread Ward

[mighty flare]

id wanna fit either vig swap or arachne in that

[velvet pulsar]

For 1 or for 4?

[mighty flare]

its both

even thrice if smite is still weapon coded

would improve radial dmg

[velvet pulsar]

Ik but 4's not a direct dmg dealer?

Like high amount?

Coz I have something else to make 1 nuke boost

[daring musk]

which one do i keep?

[mighty flare]

yes 4 is not dmg dealer

[velvet pulsar]

Multishot

[mighty flare]

1 is, but im saying it affects all of them

[velvet pulsar]

Now vigorous swap will double dmg right?

Or arachne?

[mighty flare]

im pretty sure its more actually

[velvet pulsar]

Hmm

[mighty flare]

vig swap > arachne, but different trigger conditions

[velvet pulsar]

My original plan is mandonel

The clouds are buffing fields
I can throw 1 through it

[mighty flare]

vig swap / arachne would be immensely easier to trigger

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah, and faster

[mighty flare]

but ik ur rocking out the archguns so go be you brah

[velvet pulsar]

Vigorous swap has 3s
I can't holster weps during the charge right?

[mighty flare]

you can

[velvet pulsar]

Oh

[onyx granite]

@astral tinsel thanks bro

[mighty flare]

while charging 1 you can holster swap

[velvet pulsar]

This changes a lot of things hmm.
For even greater min max I can use arachne + mandonel

That'll give me +100% and +150%

[mighty flare]

you can even do everything at once

[velvet pulsar]

How am I gonna holster something from archgun?

[mighty flare]

the deployment animation trigger vig swap

and putting it away does too

[velvet pulsar]

Hmm that timing is a lot more clunkier though
For solo useful for sure.

Mandonel field gonna last for 8s

Specially because my mod slots will be having no space left

Arachne + Vig Swap by far has most increment, and I'll be free to use any archgun of my choice without clunky cloud placement

Can it crit via avenger+ tenacious?@mighty flare

[mighty flare]

can what crit

[velvet pulsar]

1 charge throw

[mighty flare]

nawr

never remember hearing that

[signal saffron]

yo is loki decoy the ability that u can subsume?

[velvet pulsar]

Found the list, it can!

Mandonel is better buffer in that case

[regal hollow]

Guys what’s the best helminth for saryn

Nourish or roar

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[fathom sky]

Roar buffs Lash so Roar

[velvet pulsar]

U wanna know what's best or u wanna pick one between nourish or roar?

[regal hollow]

I use her for vc

[velvet pulsar]

BTW my answer is roar

[fathom sky]

VC?

[velvet pulsar]

...Voice Chat?
People in voice chat gonna hear roar?

It's either throat tearing sound or UwU sound.
Pick ur poison.

[cunning spindle]

I choose UwU

[signal saffron]

i legit think that is better than mark of death for nyxc

[velvet pulsar]

I just realised something

What if u manage to charge high dmg initially on mind control, it builds absorb for u, then when u mind control another target, during the 4s when it is absorbing ur dmg, u press 4 to deliver that nuke back into it?

Will the target take damage from absorb?

Is this some infinite scaling dmg loop?

[signal saffron]

wait i think ur cooking hold on

YO

going simulacrum rn

[signal saffron]

i dont think its a infinite scaling dmg loop but we checking rn

i think works better at high level

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah sure, but my only main question is, does the damage from 4 hit mind control during the charge time?

Is it building its damage?

[signal saffron]

it does

with 150k dmg charge i managed a 2k% dmg increase to 4k

so if on average at lvl cap ur getting 5 million absorb or something

could give u a total of 70k% on mind control

but thats with my bad maths

[velvet pulsar]

I don't even wanna know the math anymore

I found a damage loop gap now

So basically I can start off by mind controlling a jade eximus, and even if I don't get any, defense strip from 2 + my weapon will charge mind control initially.

Then I can just loop 1 and 4, to charge each other.

What I have to keep remember is to cast 2 on enemies for defense strip, and then cast 1 and then cast 4.

This is perpetual motion with increasing results

📈

[signal saffron]

what happens if u add loki decoy into it

or nourish

[velvet pulsar]

Mind Controlled Damage Decoy is very famous

Nourish, probably not gonna help much

[velvet pulsar]

Though annoying thing about this is that the duration difference between these 2 abilities is very high

Damage Decoy will end way earlier than mind control

[queen parcel]

how should i build the thalys?

[signal saffron]

what happens if u just re apply the decoy on the mind control target?

oh just testing it

so we gotta re cast mind control i mean thats a minor thing tbh 50-60 seconds is still a long time

[deep grotto]

Just built Chroma
I don’t really have access to his prime tho, so should i still forma the hell outta him?

[signal saffron]

yo i just realised something mind control applies radiation procs to enemies and gives us the nyx passive thrive in chaos for free. We DONT need pacifying bolts tbh

[signal saffron]

@velvet pulsar i legit think its a waste of a mod slot to use pacifying bolts with the decoy build as full stack radiation enemies just are confused for far too long

and we dont want them full stacked confused too because then they just not shooting absorb and they are not shooting decoy

is it me or u cannot get reinforced bond with diriga

[mental granite]

This seems like the most suitable channel to ask, can anyone help me make build for these weapons?

[onyx granite]

@astral tinsel What mods can I replace them with?

[astral tinsel]

for 0 forma, empty space

[haughty sparrow]

Go for heat instead of slash on the war

[astral tinsel]

but if you're like me and just don't like switching banes

[haughty sparrow]

And for the soma use hunter munitions and viral since the status chance is low

[astral tinsel]

then you could do more crit damage, more crit chance, or more electric

or, if you don't have external viral priming, replace electric with viral

[astral tinsel]

I'd skip HM and go for raw damage

[haughty sparrow]

What would you replace it with?

[mental granite]

Would that mean get rid of the frost, or would it not matter since I have blast

[haughty sparrow]

Why are you using blast in the first place?

[astral tinsel]

idk, more elemental damage, more crit damage, maybe magnetic capacity

[mental granite]

Muscle memory

[haughty sparrow]

Ah

[astral tinsel]

I remember building for blast a lot when I was new

[haughty sparrow]

Go for viral and heat or corrosive and heat

[onyx granite]

Oh ok thanks

[haughty sparrow]

Good for some guns but always bad on melee

[astral tinsel]

I forget why exactly, maybe just because those were the mods I had

[astral tinsel]

oh it absolutely sucked on guns too back then

-enemy accuracy or something

[haughty sparrow]

The rework helped it alot

[mental granite]

That means I want status chance right?

[astral tinsel]

for Soma you'll want to get the Entrati augment mod from Father, Hata-Satya

(hits stack crit chance until reload, up to +500%)

[haughty sparrow]

No no no, that's only good with xaku and saryn

[mental granite]

?

[mental granite]

Oh

[haughty sparrow]

The first half of your shots are gonna feel weak with it on

[astral tinsel]

absolutely not, it's a must-slot in any serious build

[haughty sparrow]

Technically you always want status chance but yeah use 60/60 mods

[mental granite]

Ok well is there any mod like borals contempt for the war?

[astral tinsel]

but you could also stack it with another CC mod if you feel like it has a weak start - there's your HM replacement

there's melee (and galvanized) elementalist for status damage

[haughty sparrow]

Good point

[mental granite]

So how's this

[astral tinsel]

drop the slash mods

[haughty sparrow]

Where is your crit chance mods?

[astral tinsel]

they only scale the slash portion of base damage, 28% in War's case

[mental granite]

Somewhere idk

[mental granite]

Ok

[astral tinsel]

Melee prowess is not great either

[haughty sparrow]

I suggest getting the mod blood rush,it gives you more crit chance based on your combo count

[mental granite]

bro if I move prowess and Carnis my status chance is gonna tank 😭

[haughty sparrow]

Use an attack speed mod,it will allow you to hit faster which means you roll status faster

[astral tinsel]

doesn't matter

[mental granite]

So fury?

[haughty sparrow]

Yeah in place of the slash mod

[astral tinsel]

with three 60/60 mods whatever you'll replace them with will likely offset the lost status chance

[haughty sparrow]

That seems good enough for now

You still need crit chance though but i noticed you don't have blood rush

[mental granite]

Alright then, now, where do I get a stance for this, because I don't know I manged to not get one with 350+ hours

[haughty sparrow]

Lemme check the wiki

[astral tinsel]

go back 10 years and get tempo royale from the phoenix intercept tac alert, it's bangin

[mental granite]

The soma is gonna take more time, I need to forma it, all its mods are close to 10 drain

[haughty sparrow]

The drop chances for heavy blade stances are so low

[haughty sparrow]

If you want to put yourself through it you can farm zeloid prelate for tempo royale

[granite ginkgo]

wasnt there a giveaway code that give free galatine and tempo royale

[mental granite]

Warframe has codes?

[mental granite]

How bad is it

[haughty sparrow]

That would be helpful if you put the code down please

[granite ginkgo]

KOUMEI-FHF8U

not sure it still available or expired ady

[haughty sparrow]

2.78% drop chance

[granite ginkgo]

yes, but most code just free glyph

[haughty sparrow]

Yeah warframe has market promo codes that can give you free stuff

[astral tinsel]

mine is still 0 forma haha

[mental granite]

Telling me it was already redeemed somehow

[mental granite]

Sigh ok where do I find him

[haughty sparrow]

Deimos

It's the best heavy blade stance

But there are other ones

[granite ginkgo]

best n funny

[astral tinsel]

cleaving whirlwind also fits and it's alright

[haughty sparrow]

Surprisingly tempo royale has the higher drop chance

Cleaving whirlwind from lua spy missions is 2.01% chance

[astral tinsel]

it also drops from common enemies

unlike tempo which only drops from bursas

[haughty sparrow]

I saw 3 enemies listed in the wiki

I'm not sure if there are more though and the wiki said 3% drop table chance for all of em

[astral tinsel]

it's pretty rare

but the enemies aren't rare on top of that

and I shudder at the thought of farming zealoid

[mental granite]

Just did the assassination, wasn't to bad

[haughty sparrow]

Same

[granite ginkgo]

eh as long it not SP

[mental granite]

My missions only take 5 mins tho

[onyx granite]

Op build for dual toxocyst?

[midnight monolith]

Falcor build?

[near imp]

https://overframe.gg/build/new/61/volt-prime/?bs=WzEsNjEsMzAsMSxbWzU5MjIsMTAsM10sWzY3Nyw1LDBdLFs3OTAsMTAsMl0sWzc5MiwxMCwxXSxbMTkyLDMsMF0sWzE5NSwzLDBdLFsxNDMwLDEwLDBdLFs4MDUsNSwzXSxbMzAzLDUsM10sWzY1LDUsMV0sWzU4NjYsNSwwXSxbNTc2Miw1LDBdXV0=

Can someone look at this and give me feedback

[midnight horizon]

Dual sac mods
Volatile quick return
Amalgam organ shatter
90% elec mod
Faction damage
Normal elementalist
Killing blow / power throw / 60% elec mod
Melee influence

[haughty sparrow]

I'm not sure if this issue is only with me but it's empty

Nvm

[mighty flare]

use continuity over narrow minded to drop augur reach
use transient over blind rage to drop streamline

[haughty sparrow]

Only problem is the aura mod -18% armour ain't that much

[near imp]

ive been perusing forums people say it levels with enemy and shreds

[mighty flare]

corro p is one of the best general auras

[midnight horizon]

-18% armor is actually really good now

[haughty sparrow]

What about against corpus?

[mighty flare]

corpus are made of paper and dont matter

[midnight horizon]

I mean they're corpus. They die from getting sneezed at

[haughty sparrow]

I did not know it was that good

But then again i have a hound priming heat

[midnight horizon]

The aura? It became good after they changed how armor math works

[haughty sparrow]

I always assumed it was too tiny of a strip to matter, I'm gonna try and get the mod now

[midnight horizon]

18% armor reduction alone gives you 1.85x damage multiplier, on base sp enemies up to any level

[mental granite]

I see the issue now...

[midnight horizon]

Ideally you'd want to combine it with other strips

[near imp]

what would i replace augur reach and streamline with

[haughty sparrow]

Sometimes baro has the mod for sale,i wouldn't wait for him though

[mental granite]

He's prelate guy the only sourc

[near imp]

so its viable in steelpath?

[haughty sparrow]

There are other sources but the drop chances are worse on them

[mental granite]

Would steel path help?

[haughty sparrow]

I think so,the drop chances are double in that mode

[astral tinsel]

primed flow and equilibrium

[solar reef]

its usable

[mighty flare]

equilibrium and whatever
volt doent need flow at neutral eff

[astral tinsel]

maybe pflow can be omitted if not using blind rage

[solar reef]

he benefits significantly more from weapkns platform builds

[near imp]

cant i use a purple archon shard instead of equilibrium

[astral tinsel]

but I still like being further than 3 discharge casts away from death

[solar reef]

waste of shard spaces

[mighty flare]

not recommended unless the frame has an orb generation ability itself

[astral tinsel]

no

[mighty flare]

not comfortable at neg eff either

[astral tinsel]

you can use 3.6 archon shards

which is not very worth it imo

[near imp]

And whatever?

To make volt weapons platform i need to subsume roar or something right

[mighty flare]

whatever mod you want that doesnt require additional mod space to work

[astral tinsel]

I'd keep the streamline

[solar reef]

I would rather subsume for nourish or xatas but roar is fine for it

[near imp]

which ability to i subsume

[astral tinsel]

roar will give you more than xatas surely

[near imp]

the shield?

[solar reef]

i prefer xatas for blast influence builds

which Volt does phenomenally

[astral tinsel]

for melee definitely shield

[near imp]

for ranged i guess shock then

[solar reef]

on the topic of volt i recently did the Sand Kavat build

man

it was not for me

[near imp]

nvm it disables shock trooper

[astral tinsel]

no that's your damage buff

[solar reef]

never subsume off shock

[astral tinsel]

for ranged speed or shield

[near imp]

Speed? Actually?

[solar reef]

i usually subsume off his 4th

unless its for sand kavats

[near imp]

i guess ill just subsume 3 then since i dont wanna micromanage it

[astral tinsel]

capacitance though

you're just playing a generic shield gate defense at that point

[solar reef]

which is fine since volt has insta cast

i run him with aegis for some extra security but yeah

[near imp]

isnt duration important for volt though

[astral tinsel]

you want a bit of it

to help energy economy and also because it's unpleasant to recast 3 buffs every 10 seconds

[haughty sparrow]

How many defensive mods should i use on xaku?

[novel bear]

Not redirection

[haughty sparrow]

So just rolling guard and deflection?

[novel bear]

Maybe fortitude or vigilante vigor, but see if rolling guard and deflection work for you

[mighty flare]

rolling guard most you need, xaku has lots of crowd control

dont need much

[haughty sparrow]

Thanks

What should i do with the extra mod space?

[mighty flare]

range

[haughty sparrow]

Like overextended?

[mighty flare]

yes

[haughty sparrow]

That will lower damage buff though

[mighty flare]

doesnt matter for xaku

[near imp]

@mighty flare will Capacitance, archon stretch and equilibrium be sufficient for energy at 45% efficiency?
no flow

[astral tinsel]

no

[mighty flare]

(with no flow) each cast of discharge will take up ~half of ur max energy and each buff rotation takes up half your max energy

[astral tinsel]

that's two discharge casts and you're done

you'll be going down often due to lacking energy

[near imp]

what about 75% efficiency

[near imp]

or this with flow

[mighty flare]

youd use flow

[near imp]

Okay so this should be set for general use & Steel path right

[astral tinsel]

should work for SP, might struggle with energy in regular starchart

[near imp]

For shield gating, should i go for shield recharge or augur set mods

[astral tinsel]

if you're asking about Volt

then just Capacitance is fine

I don't even run rolling guard

[near imp]

in the case that i want to subsume 4 for nourish

and make a different weapons platform build

[astral tinsel]

I'd go brief respite in that case

because recharge is not that reliable on its own

catalyzing shields replaces capacitance

[near imp]

right and viral from nourish goes thru armor

[astral tinsel]

it doesn't

[near imp]

bruh

[fathom sky]

That'd make Corro and Heat useless if it just went through armor

[near imp]

Hows this for weapons platform

[limber delta]

i cant find anything on how you can make a kubrow more survivable

invis just plain doesnt work

[haughty sparrow]

Use the link mods (just 2) and swap em out depending on if the frame you play is a health or a shield tanker

[limber delta]

its a bummer that cause of a bug and anti afk measures i cant just use ivara

but at least valkyr is promising

[noble depot]

Can I improve

[twilit crest]

No

Ur already him

[haughty sparrow]

Should i remove PSF,i want more shields for reinforced bond and i need the polarity

[near vortex]

Reinforced Bond doesn't scale off of your shields

Unless you are using Link Redirection on your companion

[limber delta]

ok before i go and play railjack

do companions also get lifesteal from Gloom

[ebon lion]

how does one achieve this (help)

[haughty sparrow]

I do use link redirection though

[near vortex]

What companion is it?

[haughty sparrow]

Hound (custom built)

[near vortex]

Some companions can hit 1200 just with Calculated Redirection

[haughty sparrow]

I forgot about that mod

Thank you

[near vortex]

Check and see if the hound can hit 1200 with it

It probably can, I haven't used a hound but I know they have good stats

[haughty sparrow]

It has 400 something shields base

[near vortex]

That should hit it? If not it will be close enough and you can just give overshields with the other half of reinforced bond

I think 400 should be enough for sure though

[haughty sparrow]

It is enough

Thank you

[near vortex]

Now you can take off Redirection on Xaku lol

Swap it for the Vigilante mod and use Catalyzing Shields somewhere for free survival

[mental granite]

@haughty sparrow

[haughty sparrow]

W

[mental granite]

I think I might have to use Naramon if I want to make use of blood rush

[haughty sparrow]

That's the best option for combo sustain but there are other ones too

[devout bridge]

i only use roling guard :b and huras kubrow

[haughty sparrow]

What does huras kubrow do?

[devout bridge]

invisibility

only use habilitys

[haughty sparrow]

I don't trust pets with my survivability

[devout bridge]

Pets are key in many builds

[haughty sparrow]

Yeah which is why i use a primer pet

[queen parcel]

how do i build the thalys?

[haughty sparrow]

Rate it and tell me if there is anything i should change y'all

[velvet pulsar]

I already mentioned it long ago

[velvet pulsar]

Damage Decoy's reflected damage counts for absorb building

[sacred sapphire]

which incarnon is good to get rn? on the current rotation?

[hexed sundial]

imo: magistar, ceramic dagger or lex, magistar is like the 2nd best slam weapon and one of the best melees in the entire game and ceramic dagger is pretty good, idk alot about lex

[queen parcel]

how do i build the thalys for chain shatter?

[near vortex]

Magistar is the funny hammer of kill everything, Ceramic Dagger is the level cap heavy spam weapon for Outburst and Lex is funny hand cannon with even funnier stats

[buoyant patio]

Lex Incarnon is Arca Plasmor but pistol.

[near vortex]

I love the Lex Incarnon

I don't know what other 2 are in rotation

[novel bear]

Boltor and bronco
Boltor is pretty good, bronco is bad even with the incarnon

[glass cape]

that's a good thing?

[near vortex]

Dizzying Rounds though

Bronco isn't too terrible of a weapon since you can use it as a utility with Dizzying Rounds

Akbronco Prime doesn't have an Incarnon, but the 240% Viral damage mod is funny

[velvet pulsar]

Zakti does the same thing without a mod and also has an incarnon

[potent marten]

Yeah, roll the riven for crit dmg, base dmg and crit chance/status chance and for negative go with a harmless one

I mod it for blast and use the 60/60 mods and the evolution that gives it crit chance with more status chance, that way the weapon becomes both crit focused and status focused.
I personally prefer the incarnoff mode cuz it is stupidly strong and fast.
Also, Dera has multiplicative gunCO so I'd swap one element for base dmg mod for that sweet multiplicative effect

Easily hitting more than 1 mill on primed enemies with incarnoff and over 10mill with incarnon

You can also go with galv scope and get funny crit numbers but I don't really like it tbh

[potent marten]

Zylok is a weird weapon

[near vortex]

Zylok also isn't on the Void Cascade Google doc

Zylok doesn't provide some priming in addition to allowing Crescendo stacking (I think)

[velvet pulsar]

Sorry got it wrong

[potent marten]

I don't know if gyre needs a helminth ability

[velvet pulsar]

It's Zakti

[potent marten]

How bro that's a whole different weapon

[velvet pulsar]

I'm not good at remembering names

Both start with Z

[glass cape]

I never use your second skill

[near vortex]

Close enough
5 letter name starts with Z

[velvet pulsar]

Zakti is probably even worse

[potent marten]

Seems like you'll have some troubles in chemistry studies cuz you need to remember a whole lot of things and names

[velvet pulsar]

On the contrary I did win a cert on chem competition

But that was years ago

Top performer of the school

[potent marten]

I almost failed a test cuz I forgot the names of the scientists I needed to list

University is harsh

[velvet pulsar]

Ok that's really really harsh
Scientists names...
That's history in disguise

[potent marten]

Everything you learn in university is history and social science in disguise

[velvet pulsar]

That's kinda true now that I look back.
Anyways Zakti is worse

If only Zakti + Bassocyst could've become a teleportation loadout

[glass cape]

What are actually good weapons for gyre? I ask because I use trumna nukor and okina.?

[velvet pulsar]

Does Gyre have any specific demands from a weapon?
Coz otherwise I can suggest weapons that well suit her new augment

[potent marten]

Gyre can literally use any weapon

She's a general weapon platform

She gives crit, electric dmg, grouping and she's super versatile

She's like, right behind saryn

[velvet pulsar]

Then any projectile melee with influence slop, any multishot guns like shotguns, and probably poor status chance weapons that can easily headshot.
Probably even zymos.

[potent marten]

I think redeemer would be a funny weapon to use

But forget weapons, who needs them

She is also a stupidly strong caster

[velvet pulsar]

Also new archgun could suit her

[mighty flare]

Influence

[potent marten]

Arbucep should be good in theory, but sadly we don't have gunCO for archguns

But who knows

[mighty flare]

Wasn’t the clip of the gun entirely aoe? It couldn’t even use gunco

[velvet pulsar]

The closest similar buff we've got to that is secondary shiver

[potent marten]

I think it's has aoe but also hits a target, like latron or something like that

So it can use gunco to obliterated things

[mighty flare]

Shiver meta 😔

[potent marten]

Shivering contagion tazicor meta

With shade it's literally one of the best survivability tools

[velvet pulsar]

Imagine secondary surge for hybrid frames who are both caster and weapon platform

[mighty flare]

Can’t use shade if archgun 😔

[potent marten]

Sad...

But I can definitely use it with my semi afk nekros build

[velvet pulsar]

U can

There's a bug for that too

Unfortunately it's only for continuous fire I think

[mighty flare]

Stop leaking shit 😔

[velvet pulsar]

I ain't gatekeeping

[latent adder]

You can say shit now?

[mighty flare]

yes

while now

[compact hill]

what to put on my dragon nikana and hate to deal more damage?

[velvet pulsar]

U can too

[lethal bison]

gang how is this for a no forma eidolon hunt build

for weapons i use latron and lex

[woeful monolith]

add melee influence with a mod called burning hate and electricity damage only because of melee influence.

but ultimately i only uses this if i wanna fight bosses that don't have maximum status stacks

can potentially deal a lot of damage from other sources

[sonic axle]

Does anyone have a Zephyr build? Had her for a while, but no idea what to do with her

[wet zealot]

Hi there guys, looking for a few frames that could be used as weapon platforms. Specifically for the braton incarnon, but anything really.
I've Temple which is nice with their crit buffs, but with the exalted, there's no reason to use a different primary really.

[velvet pulsar]

Gauss, Gyre, Lavos, and more

[grave cloak]

Main thing is to build max range. Strength is a non factor for zephyr so you can dump it safely to 40%(or to 10% via power donation if you're that kind of person).

[grave cloak]

Rhino, harrow, saryn, cyte 09 and mirage are some of the best weapon platforms(not necessarily in that order) since all of them have ways to buff the crap out of your weapons.
But honestly the definition of "weapon platform frame" is kinda loose since if you're not a frame that relies on abilities to kill(sevagoth, dante, dagath, etc) then your frame has to be a weapon platform frame

[velvet pulsar]

And then there's Loki who neither kills with abilities (damage decoy is more like a primer), and doesn't buff weapons. Yet his good survivability is appreciated.

[signal saffron]

yes but if some enemies are confused cuz of pacifying bolts then we get less absorb dmg. I think better to remove pacifying bolts augment the base ability is great enough to armour strip and spread

@velvet pulsar we should remove pacifying bolts for the nyx decoy build so then no confused enemies for 10seconds and more reflected dmg

and more absorb

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

I'm even unwilling to use pacifying bolts for regular setup if I run hound with the loadout

[lusty sluice]

Hi everyone, I’m looking to have Nyx as my next high investment frame, I’m planning to run her with assimilate, any suggestions on what companion is best suited for her?

[grave cloak]

can't ever go wrong with a robotic hound, they make for some nice primers when pairing synergized prospectus and manifold bond.
just make sure that you have seismic bond on your companion as it grants you free 30% efficiency

[lusty sluice]

Thank you! Glad to hear as I have 2 hounds right now from the Tenet sisters

[woeful monolith]

I recommend citrine as well since u can build a status dmg builds on ur weapons then just use her as a flat crit chance boost with vigilante mods

She can also dish out corrosive even without having ur weapons to be corrosive since the mod archon continuity

[quartz sky]

does anyone have a mathematically correct quellor build?

[wet zealot]

I'll have to check her out. Thanks!

[midnight horizon]

Not fully leveled yet (some of them), but how's it?

[signal saffron]

xoris good

not sure if im a fan of dante tho cuz im a dante hater

[midnight horizon]

Oh why so?

[quiet laurel]

condition overload doesnt work on AoEs

[midnight horizon]

Oh?

[signal saffron]

hes kinda just annoying. I hate all nuke characters except nyx absorb or marked for death loki cuz its kinda more honest and i am biased.

[midnight horizon]

I mean, I guess it's not for everyone hahaha

I picked Dante bc he is a Caster-like hahaha

Same with Xaku, Nova and Sevagoth

[solar reef]

certain explosions and such don’t work with CO

a good example of this would be contagion Zaws or Hate incarnon

The projectiles themselves will still work with CO

the explosions/aoe around them do not

[celest tendon]

Is phenmor from cavalerro better than burston on incarnnnon mod

[wraith kernel]

depends from build and buffs

[chrome badge]

no not really

[chrome badge]

play koumei she can't nuke but provides great dmg ramp up and crowd control regardless

(totally not a koumei main)

[solar reef]

the burston incarnon is the best single target primary in the game

in most cases at least

[signal saffron]

i will take ur advice and farm her soon

my worst enemies are sevagoth nukers they are literally so boring ruin gaming experience for everybody

like i just want to use the guns and melee weps that i grinded so many formas for LOL

and rivens

[chrome badge]

bro

koumei is perfect for gun and melee play as her passive and abilities lets her apply random status effects on enemies for easy priming for ur weapons

and then the decrees you get are so good too

[velvet pulsar]

Her decrees also apply to Amp damage.

Cascade add*cts probably drooled

[chrome badge]

too bad people suck at gambling

[proven palm]

Guys is Dakra Prime good?

[devout bridge]

meh but you could use duplicate or influence

[midnight horizon]

Dakra prime looks really good at least

[deep grotto]

man i gotta like
actually build my Arca triton

any suggestions?

[novel bear]

Are you building it for heavy spam or slam?
Slam’s the usual build, but it looks like spam right now

[deep grotto]

I’m just building it in general

So

Neither??
Because I didn’t exactly know those were my two options
Although i enjoy doing a mix of those

Heavy slams and normal attacks

[patent igloo]

building a hammer for attack speed and range is crazy work

the arca titron at that, it's unique trait activates on slam and not regular attacks

[deep grotto]

It’s very amusing to use the spin move imo

[patent igloo]

do you have seismic wave?

[novel bear]

Motovore?

[patent igloo]

motovore's different because of the trait

[deep grotto]

Yeah

I must’ve forgotten about it

Ig i build any melee with range and speed because to me it feels like the basic mods to put on

I also like fast weapons, hammers included

[woeful monolith]

phenmor is nerfed it used to be even better than the torid incarnon mod and burston yes but i would say burston incarnon is stronger than both of these weapons, if im you i recommend strun incarnon its too strong of a weapon to ignore

[woeful monolith]

would argue phenmor and strun incarnon would be better though

or maybe even the toxocyst incarnon is a better choice

or coda pox very op

[loud haven]

Any good rivenless ocucor build

[woeful monolith]

ocucor is only good for crits so its easier to build it yourself then looking through other peoples builds tbh

[velvet pulsar]

Outburst
Rauta
Amalgam Furax Body Count incarnon with "combo duration paused when holstered"
A warframe having arcane Pistoleer.
Any way to get easier occasional headshots after every 12s (like magus lockdown)

Tenacious Bond
Optional: Reinforced Bond & Arcane Velocity

[near imp]

is archon vitality mandatory for weapons/builds that has heat

[velvet pulsar]

Not really, most useful in rare cases

[woeful monolith]

no it only works on abilities

[solar reef]

two of these aren’t primaries, and strun isn’t a single target weapon. It also does less DPS than the Burston regardless, ao its less effective for Single Target.

Phenmor is the only mentioned conpetition, and it just doesnt put out the numbers as fast as Burston does.

[grizzled peak]

im using the syam and building around its heavy attack should i use disciplines merit or dreamers wrath

[near imp]

what about heat excalibur with chromatic blade

[solar reef]

The one that gives you movement on heavies.

[woeful monolith]

i rather have corrosive and heat with magnetic, because excalibur with no armor strip is painful to kill in most endurance steel path missions but if u just wanna do a lil bit of steel path as long as its powerful enough suit yourself

couple with nourish perfect

aoe or not if u cannot kill one what is the point am i right?

melee influence is not good for exalted blade anyways

[solar reef]

xatas blast + elec influence also works just fine at level cap with a viral priming companion

[woeful monolith]

blast in design is so chain based but for stuff like single target its very poor if there is no armor strip of any sort

viral is great

[solar reef]

Thats great and all but I’ve taken it to level cap Kuva Dis

it definitely does plenty fine at level cap

[woeful monolith]

yeah when they are crowded with nautilus to put them together for blast its great but if u have just one enemy it takes longer for blast to kill

[solar reef]

I only use panzer and diriga at cap, def dont need nautilus for grouping

[woeful monolith]

thats very true

[velvet pulsar]

Here the context is xata blast synergy

[solar reef]

^^^

Xatas Blast+Influence does just fine

[woeful monolith]

ahhh xata whisper

[velvet pulsar]

Xata Blast Influence also quadruple dips any form of faction bonus

[woeful monolith]

but how to create the proc of xata whisper though?

[deep grotto]

Hmm
I guess i should figure out what incarnon to aim for once i get there
Ive got

Telos Boltor, Braton and Burston Prime, Furax and Gorgon Wraith
May eventually get the Lato Vandal once i clear ESO enough

I have two of the Stalker weapons but i’m not including them since I don’t have their augments

[velvet pulsar]

Blast proc retriggers xata hit

[woeful monolith]

because blast will proc xata whisper extra damage because of enemies around not a single target

[solar reef]

you don’t need hate’s augment

I’d argue its only good for mixed/light builds

[deep grotto]

I see

[velvet pulsar]

It's a bugframe blessing

[solar reef]

its also somewhat pointless to use outside of high endurance

since you one shot into level 400ish with its light attacks

[woeful monolith]

hmmmmm burning hate is good if u wanna fight specific bosses with no max status stacks on them

like the murmur's boss for example

[velvet pulsar]

Usually blast proc doesn't scale mods individually, it works like a normal DoT.
But when xata procs with it, blast proc suddenly scales individually with mods like an actual hit.

[woeful monolith]

then yes bring for specific reasons

[deep grotto]

Okay

With that in mind
What should i aim for as my first incarnon?

[woeful monolith]

almost any incarnon is good

[velvet pulsar]

Burston easily
Maybe Telos Boltor for syndicate effect bonus but not as good

[solar reef]

Hate is my go to for Voruna capping

https://tenor.com/view/yes-dog-grin-happy-dog-smile-gif-12435865

[woeful monolith]

hate is good

[velvet pulsar]

Don't waste time on base furax
Once u get the wraith, then incarnon it

[deep grotto]

I have the wraith already lmao

[woeful monolith]

i usually like the vastilok with shattering impact help me more then what burning hate can do

[velvet pulsar]

Oh well then it's a god tier weapon for secondary buffer

But it's not good as a first incarnon

U want a dealer

[solar reef]

next week is also infested incarnon rotation

so you can always get dual tox/torid slop

[velvet pulsar]

The peak one

[deep grotto]

I’m not doing that 💀

[solar reef]

why

[woeful monolith]

@solar reef should try burning hate with Dual Coda Torxica unique traits, specifically only for status damage build only

might be op

[deep grotto]

Cause no

[velvet pulsar]

Unlike Torid, Toxocyst isn't overrated though
DE just built it different.

[solar reef]

I’ve found the way I like to use Hate and I don’t plan on using it any other way

[deep grotto]

I figured braton or boltor was a solid pick tbh
IIRC you build the Telos for Crit and Prime for status, right?

[velvet pulsar]

Get Telos done then

[woeful monolith]

ok im just saying not pushing anything gang

[near imp]

excalibur with the melee exposure on exalted blade and arcane hotshot on warframe with chromatic blade augment on heat with archon vitality good or bad @woeful monolith

[solar reef]

Braton incarnon is just the Burston incarnon but worse

[woeful monolith]

ohhhhh thats good

[deep grotto]

Idk it seems to shred when built right

[solar reef]

all of the incarnons do

[deep grotto]

Is braton also just giant shotgun when incarnoned?

[velvet pulsar]

I just checked Telos
U can build it hybrid

[deep grotto]

Ooh neat

[woeful monolith]

imagine u use incarnon hate then switch back to exalted blade this shet is going to be good

[solar reef]

its an auto rifle

the boltor becomes a shotgun

but the braton is still an autorifle in incarnon form

[deep grotto]

Yeah

[deep grotto]

I checked the wiki and apparently each shot gets radial heat?

Is that right?

[solar reef]

so does burston

[velvet pulsar]

Same as Burston

[deep grotto]

I’m talking about the burston

[solar reef]

yeah

[velvet pulsar]

Yep

[solar reef]

its the highest single target primary in the game, is a 600 round bullet hose that also does aoe

its genuinely good for all content

[velvet pulsar]

Also it's fun that Telos Boltor can provide u full upkeep parkour velocity bonus

[deep grotto]

So explodey fire rifle or rapidfire shotgun

Both of these sound and look great

(Ive seen clips of how both perform)

[velvet pulsar]

Both have same syndicate effects

[deep grotto]

Woh?

Didn’t know the braton had an arbiter mod

[velvet pulsar]

Burston Prime

[solar reef]

only incarnon I frequently use is Hate and thats just for its base stats increase

cant catch me using its light attacks/gimmick

[velvet pulsar]

Specifically Burston Prime, not base version.
Has a Gilded Truth mod for +80% fire rate

[deep grotto]

Oh okay i got confused

So it’s Burston vs Boltor, not Braton vs Boltor

[velvet pulsar]

So both r way more similar than u think

[deep grotto]

Okay

Doesn’t the Burston turn into a laser

Oh shit i forgot to mention i had the dera vandal

[velvet pulsar]

Projectiles

[solar reef]

no its a bullet hose

its a 600 shot machine gun

[velvet pulsar]

Enjoy infinite bullets in incarnoff form

[woeful monolith]

if its me i highly highly recommend strun prime incarnon

[solar reef]

strun and boar are also incredibly fun

[woeful monolith]

boar is also very good

but not as good as the strun or burston

[velvet pulsar]

Dera Vandal is usually more used in incarnoff form

[deep grotto]

I see

[woeful monolith]

beam weapons don't get multishot but if it's moded for multishot it will work as a damage multiplier instead of adding additional hits

[velvet pulsar]

Also that gun has one of the highest projectile speed in game among top 10 primaries projectile speed ig

[gray quarry]

Iirc ms on a beam is additional hits, just harder to see it(you get a 2nd dmg instance)

[deep grotto]

So hmm
Burston or boltor… hmm
This is funny to me because i HATED using the burston when i first got it

[solar reef]

multishot functions as a damage multiplier

[woeful monolith]

but u got the remember multishot and damage multiplier is still affected by damage reduction or damage resistence, so they can be different numbers adding up

[woeful monolith]

thats completely not true

[velvet pulsar]

MS for beam weapons has a slight practical advantage of DoT status build

[woeful monolith]

hmmmmmmm idk the math so i cannot say yes or no ast27

[velvet pulsar]

I can

[woeful monolith]

idk if its just initial hit or just everything multiply

[velvet pulsar]

MS normalizes the damage and SC outputs to be multiplied directly.

Since it's not same as projectiles or hitscans, the oversight here is that the status application for DoTs results in slightly better DPS than regular guns

[woeful monolith]

ahhhh i see

[velvet pulsar]

DE let this one slide and so u can notice that all beam weapons perform really well with (example) heat DoT compared to regular gun if both have same fire rate and if u try to put other stats in similar gaps

[deep grotto]

I think i need a side by side comparison or the Burston and Boltor’s incarnon forms to properly decide

[woeful monolith]

i think changing multishot to damage multiplier imo is a very downgrade except for DOT weapons then

[deep grotto]

Although i am tempted to get the boltor incarnon just to clown on some friends

They think the boltor sucks

[velvet pulsar]

600 vs 160 incarnon charges before u have to headshot an enemy again.

[woeful monolith]

yes the base sucks but incarnon would shred like crazy

if u build right

[deep grotto]

600 is burston or boltor?

[velvet pulsar]

Burston

[deep grotto]

Interesting

[velvet pulsar]

Highest number of incarnon charges in the game

[deep grotto]

I’m assuming higher charge = better

[velvet pulsar]

Boltor projectiles also arch heavily so charging it via headshot is going to be less convenient than charging Burston because Burston is hitscan

[woeful monolith]

no, charges are only charging for incarnon mode it has nothing to do with the dmg or anything

[velvet pulsar]

Yes, charge = bullets

They're called charges because DE wanted to clarify that ammo efficiency won't affect them

[woeful monolith]

yeah any ability of efficiency will not work

[deep grotto]

I think these two are less better than one another and more having different focuses

[woeful monolith]

and also ammo pick up does not recharge them either

[signal saffron]

yo what happens if you combo the coda pathocyst mites with the coda bassocyst mites

[woeful monolith]

i don't have that weapon yet so idk T^T

[velvet pulsar]

U get performance drops

[deep grotto]

Though i will personally say i loved the Boltor because of how heavy every shot feels

[signal saffron]

then u put on summoners wrath also

[velvet pulsar]

It doesn't affect

[deep grotto]

Pointing that thing down a hall of enemies and holding the trigger was genuinely glorious

Pretty sure it was the only time i laughed like a maniac while gunning grineer down

[velvet pulsar]

I've had horrible memories with Boltor as a newbie

I tried shooting a flying Dargyn bullying me

[signal saffron]

oh summoners effect doesnt affect the mites? But what about just both the tmites together do they got bonus dmg? or compliement eachother well?

[woeful monolith]

i still remember the 2015-2016 days the soma prime and boltor prime is the best weapon in the game but not anymore 😭

[deep grotto]

Dargyns were always atrocious no matter what gun you were using

[velvet pulsar]

Imagine my fun when I stole a parked dargyn and caused havoc everywhere shooting from the skies

That was my first time when I had great fun in this game

[woeful monolith]

my fun was using the old vauban before the 2016 rework and i can suck my teammates into the void

[signal saffron]

please if anyone has testing it tell me?

[deep grotto]

We should be able to use Dargyns as actual vehicles

[signal saffron]

stacking the mites of pathocyst and bassocyst

[velvet pulsar]

No advantage, even priming is bad by them

... relatively

[signal saffron]

so strange and weird no?

[velvet pulsar]

They don't have synergy

[woeful monolith]

what is you guys favourite warframe to play right now?

[signal saffron]

what does it even look like

[velvet pulsar]

Bassocyst alt fire itself deals some slightly ok priming

Pathocyst doesn't even do that well

[solar reef]

voruna

[woeful monolith]

ohhhhhh that is fun

[solar reef]

always and forever my glorious melee my queen

[velvet pulsar]

Nyx
Convenience has been my bait.

[woeful monolith]

mines something similar but not really revenant prime the all hated and loved warframe

[signal saffron]

i heard about something like inaros sand mites or something so i was interested and want to still do a mites build or something lol

[woeful monolith]

but i would say nyx is better because of mind control that shet is very op

[velvet pulsar]

It started with free Styanax starter
Then Octavia my first unintended Prime who I farmed without noticing
Then Revenant Prime
Then Gauss Prime
Now Nyx Prime

[solar reef]

volt is the better inaros

[solar reef]

styamaxxing 🤑

[signal saffron]

volt has mites?

[solar reef]

bro doesnt know ball

[woeful monolith]

what's you and your mites hahaha

[solar reef]

sand kavat volt

[velvet pulsar]

Ah yes the Cat person Amir

[signal saffron]

u got a video?

[solar reef]

just look up desication volt

[velvet pulsar]

You'll find Volt with Kats

[woeful monolith]

the coda bassocyst is so good for small minions in the game just do mercy finishers that shet is op you know?
its like ash but a guaranteed kill

[solar reef]

shocking speed + shock trooper on sand kavats leads to insane shenanigans with Inaros subsume + augment

[velvet pulsar]

There's a reverse version of this on Mind Control Nova now

[signal saffron]

do u think coda pathocyst and coda bassocyst fit on to that for more mites feel?

unless does it just nuke everything before ur weps do dmg

[near vortex]

The Vaykor Sydon looks incredibly fun

[velvet pulsar]

Melee Doughty the weapon

[solar reef]

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/KiF98dVTXhQ

[near vortex]

Doughty, Excalibur's 2, half a PSF

[solar reef]

havent checked how good the actual video is but it should give you a general overview

[velvet pulsar]

Lvl cap scaling

Oraxia's Scuttlers could wish they got as good scaling as sand kavats

[woeful monolith]

damn this guy is smart damn

[velvet pulsar]

There's a reverse implementation with Mind Control nova now

[woeful monolith]

ohhh i have seen this very often now when i was in relic fissures

speed up mind control enemies with damage multier from her like ult or something

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah u cast speed molecular prime on a target, mind control, and then u have a rapid fire ally

[woeful monolith]

that is very smart

so many innovative builds

[tranquil plover]

is perigale good

[woeful monolith]

what is that?

[tranquil plover]

same with sicarus

[solar reef]

its ok

[signal saffron]

now u like the mites?

[mighty flare]

one of better snipers for single target specifically

[solar reef]

it suffers from the same issue as most every other sniper in the sense that its a sniper

its single target almost exclusively

[woeful monolith]

its a very cool build if u see like 20 mites until u release onkko is coming soon with more summoned entities lol

[solar reef]

it is very good at that though

[velvet pulsar]

Sicarus is good

[signal saffron]

i really wanna add the bassocyst + pathocyst together so then its like the kavats are carrying mites

[woeful monolith]

the almighty seer is the best weapon in the game

[signal saffron]

nothing like a little cat with a lot of mites to ruin ur day!

never mind a bunch of little cats XDDD

[woeful monolith]

omg this build would slap though

[signal saffron]

would be fun af ngl @velvet pulsar wht u thinkin?

[woeful monolith]

i miss the old ash

that blade storm is so cool

[velvet pulsar]

I still don't see the synergy

Like some specific heavy lifting done by mites

[woeful monolith]

the only thing closed to the old ash is either just use mesa or marked of death ash builds

[signal saffron]

the synergy or like fun i was thining

[near vortex]

They should increase Vaykor Sydon knockdown resist to 60%
That way if I run Constitution on my frame, it becomes 100% knockdown resist

[signal saffron]

never mind the heavy lifting! XD

[woeful monolith]

just login everday to get primed sure footed

[near vortex]

But the 16 capacity...

[velvet pulsar]

Power Drift

[near vortex]

And I'm not even close to PSF

[woeful monolith]

too lazy to farm forma and all that crap? agreed

[signal saffron]

the synergy i was thinking was a electric bassocyst a electric pathocyst + the electric volt kavats

[near vortex]

True, actually
Constitution, Power Drift and Sydon for full knockdown immunity

[signal saffron]

the electric mites + electric kavats

[woeful monolith]

i rather stay just like in 2013 too if its possible but game won't allow me to

[woeful monolith]

you know how to reduce the slots? just get faster knockdown recovery easy

get the mod handspring

[velvet pulsar]

Constitution isn't knockdown resist
That Fortitude

[signal saffron]

yo but isnt volts survival pretty bad or am i tripping?

[velvet pulsar]

On the contrary u can use base Sure Footed on exilus

[deep grotto]

Mind dropping the build then? I’m intrigued by this

[velvet pulsar]

He has really great survivability

[signal saffron]

how?

i swear its just his shield i have not played that warframe since 13 years ago

or something

[velvet pulsar]

Hybrid?
I checked the incarnon perk
It has a pure status chance perk

So combining that with innate good crit stats, it can be made hybrid

[solar reef]

its already a triple augment build, you’d have to use a 4th to use his shield generation augment

[woeful monolith]

i can see why he wants knockdown resistance because either long steel path missions or aoe staggering weapons in that case just get cautious shot mate

[solar reef]

and you swap off his 3rd for desication

[deep grotto]

Oh

[mighty flare]

huras/shade? isnt it a weaponless build ?

[signal saffron]

i like my frost prime survival or my shivering contagion or cc frames or immortal frames

[velvet pulsar]

His 3 + recharge barrier augment / capacitance augment / shield gate by his 2

[solar reef]

i suppose you could do that

[signal saffron]

but volt doesnt have survival like that TO MY KNOWLDGE

[solar reef]

volt has great survivability with his base kit and his 4ths augment

[signal saffron]

sounds like hella role play i might be tripping tho

[solar reef]

but you can’t use his shield or his augment in that build

[woeful monolith]

imo you are just fine if u stay in the shield and just don't play infested/techrot should be fine

[solar reef]

so you’d utilize basic shield gating with shock and catalyzing

[solar reef]

you can’t use the shield

Has to be subsumed off

[woeful monolith]

oh right. sorry i forgot his slot is full of cats or mites lol

[solar reef]

cant put sand kavats over 4th abilities as they just dont work

[velvet pulsar]

Yes, the bugframe

[woeful monolith]

his build is so inefficient lol i think he just wanna build a meme build lol

[velvet pulsar]

Aight I'll sleep now

[solar reef]

so you’re either gonna have to swap off one of the 5 remaining mods to use his 4th’s augment or just be comfortable with Catalyizing shields

[woeful monolith]

same bye guys

[solar reef]

which is more than enough since speed is insta cast

[mighty flare]

the issue with sand kavats builds is the helminth bug

[deep grotto]

I see
Would i even need to do much considering it already does status?

[solar reef]

Where it can’t go over 4th’s?

[mighty flare]

yea

[solar reef]

yeah its severely limiting

would sand kavats work with Wisp too if you could swap over 4ths?

or is it only the aura or shocking speed that synergizes with it

[mighty flare]

wisp can work yes

[solar reef]

like would shock motes do the same thing or do those not aid in scarabs

[velvet pulsar]

I think the build will be simple once u go through the perks and pick yourself

[deep grotto]

Makes sense

[proud linden]

For warframes, in my case atlas, is there a way to actually become immune to status? I know of rolling guard but that's reactive and I don't trust my reflexes. There's also the various single status mods but that's a waste of a slot. There anything I'm missing?

[solar reef]

outside of niche warframe abilities and arcanes, no

the only status really worth worrying about is toxin

arcane resistance will prevent toxin status from killing you but not the toxin aoe that the eximus have

[fathom sky]

Yeah if it's not Toxin you're fine because spamming punch will give you shields to survive the rest

[deep grotto]

Isn’t toxin an infested/techrot specific thing at least?

[fathom sky]

Grineer Nox, but otherwise yes

[deep grotto]

Oh right forgot about that guy

[fathom sky]

They're all fairly close range enemies

[solar reef]

just use voruna and forget about status entirely

[proud linden]

But I want to punch,lol. Been spamming that and it usually works but I've had both toxin and a slash proc drop me by now. I'll have to see if I can replace nourish with something for immunity, make this build even more brain dead

[tranquil plover]

i need a rev prime build for lvl cap

[proud linden]

Anyone here know if Fire Walker cleanses status while Nezha is running at full speed?

[woeful monolith]

not sure because server tick is a thing

depends how fast are u going?

if u are going fast enough i think it will not work lol

but most scenario it should if u are still in the flames'

[proud linden]

I was worried about that. Was gonna put it on Atlas both for status cleanse and style points, but his 1 is very fast

[woeful monolith]

Build high ability strength with good energy economy with whatever companion u want and make sure u got the best weapons in the game, also make sure u got corrosive heat and viral most important since u got no armor strip whatsoever

Magnetic can kinda skip unless u really wanna be precautious like me when i play revenant

[mellow nest]

Doesn't seem like it

[proud linden]

Thank you, rip that idea

[mellow nest]

I dont think its a problem, especially not considering Atlas 1, since you break after use, so youll stand in the flames for sure

You can also just cross existing flames

But Pillage might be the better status cleanse + shields restore here

[latent forum]

Anyone got a good steel path build for the akarius prime to use with mirage?

[kindred lion]

does anyone know if valence bonus percentage matters much in a sobek acid shells build?

[upbeat zealot]

what combined elements to mod onto my falcor

[mighty flare]

its base damage, overall useful for improving damage

but you can still nuke without maxed valence %

[kindred lion]

if you are going influence then i suppose blast would be nice

[proud linden]

...pillage cleanses status? I'll have to give it a try, and I'll see if I have a spare nezha, but I'm almost always moving with my atlas. Thanks for the idea and info

[kindred lion]

that's what i got at least and it does well

[upbeat zealot]

i still gotta farm influence lmfao

😭

[kindred lion]

yeah its doing well, i was wondering if i'd see an improvement against single targets, mainly acolytes xd

[upbeat zealot]

what arcane pack is it in

[mighty flare]

yeah, if you struggle on initial ttk then getting higher % would be useful

[upbeat zealot]

ill try and farm arcanes to dissolute

[mighty flare]

you can also swap mods around too, you using crit decel?

[kindred lion]

i'll check for you, i know its farmed directly from sanctum anatomica but not sure about arcane dissolution

oh yeah cavia arcane collection

[upbeat zealot]

alr ty

ill def farm it when i can

[kindred lion]

ah nope, the only crit source i got is arcane avenger

[mighty flare]

critical decel would be beneficial

[kindred lion]

i was testing two builds so far

the riven even though it might be wow on other weapons, its underwhelming on the sobek xd

i was using it during plague star, but its not that good for acid shells

[shrewd leaf]

https://overframe.gg/build/770195/cyte-09/ghost-recon-cyte-neutralizer-weapon-platform-sp-general-use-and-endurance/

https://overframe.gg/build/770440/

Almost finished building this for Cyte. Been kinda struggling with the negative efficiency so Im thinking abt having my two crimson shards be used for duration over strength bc he says even without the strength shards, the neutralizer with resupply oneshots levelcap

[kindred lion]

the fire rate put me off since i'm using it on cyte but i've set up reinforced bond so i might give that a try and see how it goes

[mighty flare]

this is for cyte?

[kindred lion]

the one on the right yeah

[shrewd leaf]

dude Im missing clip delegation and Im so sad abt it D:

[mighty flare]

try this out for cyte then

[kindred lion]

the one on the left i was gonna use with a wisp on the team but not anytime soon xd

[mighty flare]

and cold would be preferred over toxin for sobek

[shrewd leaf]

I use magnet bc I love having an extra element

[mighty flare]

cold give magnetic for cyte, and viral for oraxia/saryn

[kindred lion]

i'll give this a try

[tough fog]

Hey guys which one is better

[kindred lion]

you reckon i can replace point blank with my riven?

[astral tinsel]

right

zoom is not good, but -fire rate is a no-go

[twilit crest]

Ain’t -firerate like really bad

[tough fog]

Ty

And just wondering, is my torid riven a god roll?

[kindred lion]

share

[tough fog]

It's loading very very slowly

[kindred lion]

its pretty good but not really a god roll

at least for me i consider a god roll to be 3 very good positives and one harmless negative

you can 100% use this though, it is very good

[haughty sparrow]

This thing feels awesome

[haughty sparrow]

It counters critical delay,not good for every semi shotgun but still strong

[shrewd leaf]

what companion would yall suggest for cyte-09?

[limber delta]

i dunno probably a primer like diriga or smth

[shrewd leaf]

alright cool thats what I was gonna go with :D

[kindred lion]

that got me wondering if i was playing on SP

they fold like paper lmao

its a really good build

[dense whale]

should I replace shocking touch with melee elementalist?

[shrewd leaf]

doesnt sobek not have dropoff for whatever reason so accel doesnt rly matter

[mighty flare]

all weapons have falloff

accel doesnt interact with savvy

so if ppb/riven use accel
if savvy use narrow barrel or recoil or anything

[midnight horizon]

Focus energy, not shocking touch

Also go for normal not the galv elementalist