builds-discussion

[mellow nest]

@ember condor have you tried out Precision Intensify with him?

[mighty flare]

youd just invest in duration then with his augment too

[ember condor]

Sunder nuking needs strength, range, Archon Vitality, and a lot of energy.

Weapons platform is just as much duration as you can cram onto Gauss.

[ember condor]

For Gauss as a weapons platform?

[mellow nest]

Yeah

[mighty flare]

you dont need high str for sunder nuking

[mellow nest]

Just curious if it has any application there

[mellow nest]

Precision intensify is for the 4th only

[ember condor]

Strength does not matter for a weapons platform build on Gauss. All of the weapon buffs Redline grants scale off of duration, not strength.

[mighty flare]

that does nothing

[mellow nest]

Oh I see, I thought the firerate was strength

Fairs

[austere tide]

Are there any standout weapons that goes well with him?

[ember condor]

Weapons that have really good ammo economy, namely Incarnons.

[mighty flare]

anything with slow reload/fire rate, anything with some sorta ammo eff/inf ammo
influence melees, etc, anything

[velvet pulsar]

His own secondaries with Pistoleer

Any secondary with Pistoleer

(non incarnon)

[ember condor]

With how much fire rate Redline gives you will chew through your ammo reserves, so you’ll need weapons that don’t have an issue with ammo.

[velvet pulsar]

Pistoleer

[ember condor]

I use Dual Toxocyst with Incarnon.

[velvet pulsar]

[velvet pulsar]

Yep, I'm addicted to it so I can't let go of it

[ember condor]

Absurdly strong weapon with nigh infinite ammo.

[mellow nest]

Its intoxicating

[velvet pulsar]

Not just that
It's definitely built different

1. It has the only multiplicative fire rate buff in the game
2. Incarnon mode has 1024m hitscan range without any falloff! This is peak sniper weapon.

[midnight horizon]

Bro's a 10bit sniper

Why is it so specific tho. 1024

[mighty flare]

its more like why even mention it
archon cont more expensive to fit for a useless effect on the majority of frames
the 7k endo in their screenshot should tell you endo is more of a worry rather than stacking plat
you can use archon cont until you get pcont, not the other way around

noobies getting into the market is already a risk

[midnight horizon]

mw the frame it's made for doesn't even synergize with it 99% of the time

Atp just change the mod image cover bro

[mellow nest]

Thats an opinion and mine was one aswell. They can coexist, I dont think yours is more right than mine or the other way around

[midnight horizon]

Saryn don't deserve all that gaslight

[mellow nest]

Rip

[mighty flare]

archon cont is more expensive to fit than pcont,
selling pcont and maxing archon cont will cost more endo than just keeping pcont
those are not opinions

[mellow nest]

Right, so it costs 5k more endo to swap them and 1 mod point more if you use a polarity.
What do you gain by this? 55p+, which can be very relevant.
I presented it as an option to think about because that's what it is.
It can also be a mod they might want to use at some point down the line for another frame, which will ultimate save more endo at that point.
Again, our opinions can coexist, there is no need to insist on either opinion being the only way, that is nothing but elitism in my opinion. A player can totally make their own decisions with all the facts at hand, no need to sell them for dumb, they will do as they see fit with their items and their time

[rotund void]

Is frost worth the investment?

[astral tinsel]

yeah

[granite ginkgo]

prime or nonprime?

[compact owl]

whats the best bonus element to get on kuva weapons?

[versed harbor]

depends on the weapon but usually its toxin/magnetic

[compact owl]

i understand heat and toxin but why magnetic?

[versed harbor]

free element for gun co, good vs eximus nowadays and it doesnt conflict with other elements so its flexible

heat is kinda overrated for progenitor weapons tbh its rly awkward to use if you use a few configs

similar issue with tox tbf but its a bit better since tox makes basically all the best statuses

[compact owl]

true wasnt even thinking about flexibility

thx

[karmic beacon]

https://overframe.gg/build/330674/praedos/tennokai-speed-stick-for-exalted-melee-weapons-excal-baruuk-valkyr-wukong/

So do I leave the other slots empty? And what do I do for the arcane?

[vital wing]

how do i get growing power and transient fortitude for the turret build @mellow nest and whats the playstyle for the build

[velvet pulsar]

Coding bug likely

It comes in 2's exponential power

Haven't heard 2048 number rush?

It's half of it, with double the guns

[mellow nest]

You can only get growing power after doing the "Silver Grove" quest and farming the spot. Check the wiki for it, but without having the setup already it isnt terribly worth investing into it.
Transient Fortitude is one of the Corrupted mods, they can be gotten from the Deimos Orokin Derelict Dragon Key Vault Doors, which require Dragon keys to be equipped and finding the door/vault in a lvl there. Check the wiki here too, but it might be more efficient to just buy it as you can get any of the I think 21 corrupted mods at random.

Its best to just do other content and pay for it that way imo

[vital wing]

okay no worries thank youu, alo how would i play her with the buildif u dont mind me asking?

[mellow nest]

I almost always use equilibrium btw for the flex slots, think I forgot to mention it.

I start with the dispensary, just putting it down constantly, its got like 55 seconds on it.
I then throw the shield satellites until I get to the 100% buff, then I use the turret and immediatly the 4.
The turret has the 100% buff as long as you cancle and immediatly recast the 4th with no delay.
Aside from occasionally reusing the Dispensary and 4 (cancel and recast) I just act normally and shoot.
Its fairly afk tbh, the turret will do almost everything in normal content and Steel path on its own, but you can spam more turrets if you need them or use the gun more (if you can, the turret is way faster than you lmao)

For the turret build not to feel abysmal you have to swap hold/tap activation for protea in the options

Its recommended in any case if you use the 4 often

Archon Vitality is also brutal on higher difficulty, it doubles the heat stacks.
You can flex Temporal Erosion tbh if it breaks your build otherwise with what you want to use, as the heat stacks can shred up to 50% armor already

[karmic beacon]

Still wondering about this, sorry. I like to make sure I've got everything exact

[mighty flare]

oh weird

post looks bugged

[mellow nest]

Its possible that it didn't save

Overframe has that issue

[mighty flare]

you put in the other tennokai mods like masters edge, dreamer wrath

guessing post glitched out and didnt show that

[karmic beacon]

Does the order matter? There's also a few Tennokai ones, which ones should I put in? Also is there a specific arcane I should use? (Sorry for the questions)

[mighty flare]

no specific arcane matters, you put in conditions perfection, dreamers wrath, masters edge, opportunity reach
order of tennokai doesnt matter

[karmic beacon]

Thank you, I greatly appreciate it

[pseudo nimbus]

Hey guys, i'm MR 5 and i'll soon be acquiring Harrow Prime and i was wondering if anyone would be willing to give me indications on how to build him at my current MR state and perhaps summarize the basic of how to play him, if possible. Hope that i'm asking this to the right place thank you !

[cerulean crag]

Can we swap Xata Whisper’s ability with any of Oraixa’s abilities or can it only be swapped with her ultimate

[snow ice]

Is this a good build?

[mighty flare]

would only be her 4 yeah
your main options are nourish, shock and thermal transfer

[mellow nest]

Its a decent setup, but some speakers could improve it

[cerulean crag]

My dreams are shattered😔

[snow ice]

Wdym by speakers?

[mellow nest]

Like Audio Speakers?

Idk bro, English isnt my main language, I only know these words for it

[snow ice]

Ah ok

[mellow nest]

No problem, any time

[snow ice]

How about this? I swapped some out mods out

[brisk epoch]

bro you can share screenshots from the xbox app

you dont need to take pictures of your tv lol

[mellow nest]

Its just easier

And they wanted feedback for their setup

[near vortex]

Should be decent
Although vital sense with 14% crit doesn't make sense

[snow ice]

[near vortex]

Do you have a Verglas riven?

[snow ice]

Nope

[near vortex]

Open companion weapon rivens whenever you get them and look for one

Swap sinister reach out for crit delay

[mighty flare]

mod for corrosive and add magnetic capacity, you want at least 3 statuses for manifold bond
if you want cold use shivering contagion
metal auger should be pshred
if you want it to be a dps weapon (ur using serration), mod for viral heat

[snow ice]

But waiting for it to be uploaded and then to save it takes a long time

[snow ice]

Interesting 🤔 I'll keep that in mind

[near vortex]

They look fairly new, might not have primed shred yet

[mighty flare]

reg shred exists

[snow ice]

I don't even have that mod 💔

[mighty flare]

or vile acceleration

or anything

[near vortex]

I'd put on crit delay or point strike over sinister reach

Otherwise you shouldn't have the vital sense

[mighty flare]

tldr, use a fire rate mod
dont mod for crit unless you have cc riven

[snow ice]

Very well 😭

[mellow nest]

Idk bro if at your point in the game you'd need a riven

[mighty flare]

no point in the main game are rivens required

[near vortex]

No point in any game are rivens required ngl

[mellow nest]

Wait, there's more games with rivens?

[near vortex]

I haven't encountered a single piece of content that I've needed a riven for

[near vortex]

I worded that wrong

[mellow nest]

Well yes thats true

Thats also true

[near vortex]

There isn't any point in this game in which a riven is NEEDED
The reason you want one for Verglas is to activate tenacious bond AND use Verglas for DPS, my nautilus uses Burst Laser Prime to hold auger mods and proc tenacious bond

[steep oasis]

https://overframe.gg/build/902878
come è?

[snow ice]

My Tigris Prime has one (only does critical chance and damage)

[near vortex]

I have a Lex riven with Toxin and Multishot and a Paris with CC SC

I have a Ruvox riven I want to start rolling though

[mellow nest]

Thats great though

[snow ice]

I keep rolling it until I get crit chance and crit damage

[mellow nest]

Isn't that literally what you just said you have?

[snow ice]

Yeah

I keep rolling and keeping the crit chance and damage

[mellow nest]

I'd personally instead try to fix its issues, namely terribly reload speed.
Not sure if the magazine size thing still works where you get a third shot or more with extra magazine size

It would be 50% or more efficient

[snow ice]

With the magazine cap mod I get 3 unless there's a prime version where I get 4

[mellow nest]

Primed Ammo Stock or smth

+110% mag capacity

[snow ice]

That's the one I don't have 💔 but I haven't used my Tigris Prime since I got the boar prime

[mellow nest]

Well understandable because its got issues

You could, now hear me out, use the riven system for what it was designed for

Which is fixing weapons or bringing them up to speed

[snow ice]

Interesting 🤔 how do I do that?

Do I keep rolling?

[mellow nest]

Well yeah, its smth you can do ofc, not must. If you get a good roll for crit + reload speed for example or smth else that fits.

It'll never be better than the Boar, perhaps for certain content but otherwise no shot. Simply because the reload and magazine size are really not good enough for how many mobs you face nowadays. It was much better back when you struggled to kill lvl 200

Now it may overkill every enemy and that is just wasted damage really

There's also the Sancti Tigris with lower damage but faster reload speed (1,4 s iirc)

[snow ice]

But I also have max prime tactical pump and seeking fury too

[mellow nest]

Primed tactical pump puts it down to 0.9 s I think, thats really good

[still rune]

Hey guys, I want to make a thematic build and need some help

How would you build a Zephyr for a Grineer Bomber build?

Fly, gather the enemies with the abilities and bomb them with a cool Grineer inspired Fashion Frame

[mellow nest]

Id use the Zarr or Ogris with Nightwatch Napalm mod.
For the frame I cant help, not much familiar with the rework

[crimson osprey]

So i enjoy playing endgame, not silly endgamer where tyou need shield gating and other nonsense, but like the archimediean deep dives with the modifiers and all

This week, keratinos were one of my melee choices, and they just feel weak, is it the weapon, mods, or claw weapons in general? my crafted nikana and dozens others feel so much better

[hearty scarab]

Hey. That’s mine.

Not a bug

It uses specific stuff that I will gatekeep but in short in incredibly niche

And wouldn’t work outside sorties void and maybe some other stuff

No it’s with an ability

It scales off of enemy level

[still rune]

Thanks!

I should foucs on hability range, efficiency and duration but not on damage I think

[mellow nest]

You could also use the Harkonar cosmetic parts that you get from the War Within quest. They have a grineer look to them

The Nights of Naberus event is currently going on in the Necralisk on Deimos. They're selling some cosmetics and a color palette. None of it fits terribly well but it can help expand your cosmetics library for cheap

Maybe the bats could be cool

[still rune]

I'm not sure I have this cosmetic

I don't remember it at least

[mellow nest]

Its rewarded upon completing the war within

Its under the attachments options

[still rune]

For some reason I really love the Grineer aesthetic

Hmm

[mellow nest]

Left leg right leg etc

Check the market, you can also buy the Diriga grineer Airship/Balloon sentinel there

The blueprint for it that is

[still rune]

Dope, thanks

[crimson osprey]

So are keratinos jsut not endgame material ? endgame activities*

[white pebble]

What the best Praedos build that can rekt everything to endgame etc ! ? There so many different builds on it hard cut threw all the bad jus don't want to waste time and forma. Any happy would be greatly welcome .

[eager charm]

here's my general use one, but you can definitely remove atk speed and range mods for stuff like faction mod and whatever if you want

[white pebble]

Thanks still trying get my hands on Discipline's Merit but rng gods hate me lolz thank you Hylja

[eager charm]

npnp, the default tennokai mod is just fine for purposes of triggering incarnon mode

[white pebble]

mainly setup for to do Steelpath

is hevay attacks or just slash and dice fast lolz

[eager charm]

that build is just light attack spam, you can heavy atk stuff if you want but for that you kinda want merit mod

[white pebble]

mainly try for raw damages

[crimson osprey]

So any input on the keratinos question?

[still rune]

Why isn't the twin kohmak used as a primer?

[dense geode]

What if I just put every element on my Exergis instead of using a Primer (since I don’t need crit anyways)

[rapid escarp]

How to build rhino? Like what should I focus on for insane overguard build

[snow ice]

You are correct that it does put it down to 0.9

[wanton widget]

Been revisiting My ANCIENT weapons. My Gorgon Wraith needed much love and boy did I give it the love it needed! Blast, Radiation and Magnetic with Crux. While not the damage dealing monster you would normally want for a weapon, this weapons doing blast damage... with lots of ammo, some punch through and 50% Status on top of a method to group enemies together and this thing makes steel path a "blast!" Updated the Twin Grakata as well and while I can empty in half a second, the damage feels great. I think Clem would be proud and a little jealous of these.

[snow ice]

Wow 😳

[eager charm]

i'm a big rhino fan and he doesn't need a whole lot to get going
his iron skin can be charged up to 200k if you stand under a jade eximus beam, the meme iron skin build isn't rly useful

slightly positive all stats then all into strength for a big roar

up to you how much efficiency you want, energy max, shards, etc

[dense geode]

would putting both semi-shotgun cannonade AND primed point blank on a gun be overkill?

[mighty flare]

yeah you dont do that usually, which shotgun

[edgy lance]

is this a good build for nukor?

[rapid escarp]

Ohhh so basically during his immune phase he basically takes the damage for overguard?

[mighty flare]

(assuming this is dps build) swap enervate over encumber, elementalist over scorch and primed target cracker over mag might

[edgy lance]

whats elementalist?

i mean whats the full name of the mod

i cant find it

also why would i use cd on the weapon as it has only 7% cc

[mighty flare]

pistol elementalist

enervate is flat/final crit, it lets the knukor hit crits even with its low base cc

[edgy lance]

oh, you are right , mb sorry

[mighty flare]

es all good

[crimson osprey]

thanks anywqay boyos.

hope yall get the praedos and nukor going how ya want it

[eager charm]

yep

[stable glen]

Does this look good for a rapier zaw?

[shadow stream]

This might be a weird question, but are there other builds or or different ways of building Ash, other than focusing on blade storm. I seem to find a LOT of players and WFYT creators going for Silence as a subsume, which I understand considering the meta? Are there other meta's for ash, so to speak?

[dense geode]

suggestions on what I can put on the bottom half of my Exergis here?

[mighty flare]

silence gives crowd control and extra dmg on his 4 with the aug

[shadow stream]

I understand are there any other builds that people use, for example centered more around the shurikens, or perhaps another susbsumed ability leading to a different playstyle? I apologize if my question is confusing.

[mighty flare]

you can play general platformer yeah

then its just regular roar/nourish/xata, etc

wa is another good subsume cuz its flat crit which works on his 4

[shadow stream]

Gotcha ❤️ Thanks

[mighty flare]

you might like a more mixed platformer cuz his 4 is pretty slow, and he has pretty good utilty through his augments

slow as in doesnt have large aoe like other nukes

[latent adder]

Wrathful advance is the best subsume for maximising bladestorm and simultaneously buffing melee

[crimson osprey]

Radiation hirudo any good?

Cedo is a shit weapon idk how anyone uses it

[charred gale]

Radiation is just dogshit in general

[pure reef]

Anyone got interesting ideas for some archgun double arcane combos? Crux Enervate seems good for Larkspur. Double Deadhead probably based on Mausolon.

[near vortex]

Did you read the unique trait?

[crimson osprey]

Yea. its a good weapon, i just wasnt getting any answers in the last likw 2 hours so i said something spicy to get someone to read shit

[near vortex]

You're asking about Keratinos?

I've never used it

[austere tide]

uhhh when is Guass p being vaulted, idk if I have time to get to mr14 to get this sig secondary. What can I use instead at mr13 for sp and high level stuff

[brittle sleet]

You can focus on collecting the parts even without being MR14. No upcoming prime is even announced to replace any existing primes so you have plenty of time in that regard too

[hard dove]

What's a good weapon for divine retribution spam? I don't have Temple/Dante subsume yet can't use ability for now

Thinking of Furis or Phantasma or Convec since it's my only decent fire/slash status weapon

[mighty flare]

Furis

[storm summit]

What do you mean by divine retribution

[lost hull]

Nezha 4 I think

[crimson osprey]

Should i hold off on picking up the hirudo?

its radiation

i could always buy that thing to change it at a later time

[hard dove]

Thx

@storm summit Nezha 4 augment

Oops wrong reply

[hard dove]

Another question what's a fitting subsume for negative duration Nezha to substitute dark verse or temple subsume until i get either of them

[crimson osprey]

Could i even make a radiation Hirudo work? maybe a condition overload build?

[mighty flare]

Pillage

Also dark verse isn’t top choice anymore

For abilities it’s really only thermal transfer (gauss) or pyrotechnics

[mighty flare]

Just change it later, radiation element bad

[mighty flare]

You could also just not run neg duration and get like roar

[hard dove]

Let's goo i have sunder
Wait i need augment?

[mighty flare]

No

[hard dove]

I'm tired of roar

[mighty flare]

I forgot name

[mighty flare]

Neg duration limits subsume option, so if neg then pillage good

[hard dove]

Thermal sunder

[mighty flare]

Yeah that

That’s good nezha ability

Works for neg duration

[fierce egret]

Guys I have the best Revenant, Reave nuke build out there

[midnight horizon]

Cool

[charred gale]

nuke...

[fierce egret]

Yes nuke

[charred gale]

a 6m nuke

[swift beacon]

Hello all

[fierce egret]

With stacks you get a 20m nuke with 505% strength

[charred gale]

please explain how you're getting 334 range

[fierce egret]

Specter frames that boost your ability range

[charred gale]

which ones do that, ive never used specters so i might invest into it

[fierce egret]

Well Im not quite sure but there are some out there

[lost hull]

Far as I'm aware only helminth invigoration may increase ability range outside of mods

There are a few things that buff affinity range however, which some frames do use

[lost hull]

Tacking on fissure mission buffs

[fierce egret]

Well from my experience Citrine, Nidus, and Equinox seem to work for me atleast

[lost hull]

Nidus and equinox give strength, citrine only gives dr as part of her ability, if you are indeed getting range I suggest reporting the bug with a screen recording or something

[fierce egret]

Ill try

But Im on PS so I cant really send stuff to the discord

Except on phone

[lost hull]

Ps is definitely stupid at screen stuff yea, maybe before and after screen shot of an ability getting a clear range boost

You can send to ps app and copy paste from there

[velvet pulsar]

If u would've said Marked For Death with reave I would've believed

But u seem to be saying without even doing proper research

Reave one-shot without enthrall doesn't just require high str, but also viral priming or roar

[fierce egret]

Ay use breach surge

[velvet pulsar]

And reaching 20m range with it is easier by Marked For Death, other than that, max range one can reach is 280% without helminth invigoration

[fierce egret]

There is breach surge

But I primarily use roar though

[velvet pulsar]

Breach Surge Reave
Sure

[fierce egret]

Oh yeah and here is a clip of my reave build

No viral needed just PURE RAW strength

[sacred sapphire]

which is better

[hexed sundial]

one on the right prob

[charred gale]

that doesnt rly look like a 20m nuke

[velvet pulsar]

That's not 20m but it's great 👍🏼

[velvet pulsar]

Right

[vital elbow]

Hi guys, is -reload speed a big issue on Sobek? I want to keep the Multishot and Toxin

[velvet pulsar]

No issue

[charred gale]

might be a lil annoying if ur pairing it with saryn but for cyte-09 not an issue

[velvet pulsar]

Considering the number of waves one mag of sobek can clear, u can time the reloads well between enemy gaps

I use this thing without any issue, despite the incarnon transmutation taking long time

Sobek isn't even an incarnon

Stuff like Blood for Ammo can help too, since acid shells may sometimes leave some eximus enemies alive

[vital elbow]

And I intend to use it with Saryn 😅

[vital elbow]

Thank bro

[charred gale]

yeah just a lil annoying

[velvet pulsar]

Yep

Though I don't like that negative reload speed affects incarnon transformation but reload animation skip doesn't

[velvet pulsar]

Also smeeta kavat can help

Charm can proc instant reload buff

[pale belfry]

you deal less dps in the game

thats all

[velvet pulsar]

That universal law is even weaker for sobek

[shell tundra]

Is it possible to drop below a 1x CD?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

(I think)

Can't guarantee an example rn

[shell tundra]

What stats should I be on the lookout for on a Larkspur Prime riven? I want to see if I can build it for enervate. My Shade Prime naturally gives all of my weapons a final +1.2x crit multiplier so I hope that this would allow me to run Enervate on the Larkspur

[velvet pulsar]

Definitely CD.
MS also helps naturally coz it's main fire is a beam but more importantly CD

[shell tundra]

What about elemental damage?

So far for pluses I have +MS and +CD but what of a +Elemental?

[mighty flare]

usual heat/elec

[shell tundra]

There’s one eensy teensy tiny massive huge problem, I don’t think rivens with three positives even exist, and even if they do, I imagine they’d be pee pee poo poo

[mighty flare]

3:1 rivens exist

[shell tundra]

I only have 5,750,752 Kuva 😭

There’s no way in Hell I am gonna roll that with only 1,643 rolls

[lavish orbit]

The basics of primary rivens are damage, cc, cd, -zoom, why wouldnt there be 3 positives

[shell tundra]

primary rivens
Respectfully, I’m rolling an Archgun riven

Unless the same principles apply and I just eat more rocks than Diego Brando

[austere tide]

Anyone have a Rubico prime build? : D

[mighty flare]

eido or like gen usage

[austere tide]

gen usage pls

[mighty flare]

you could go the regular viral heat crit ms build or you looking for something else

should warn you though

of the snipers, rubico really isnt that great

[grave cloak]

same principles do, in fact, apply

so about those rocks...

[cyan parrot]

Could someone send a strun prime build please? I just got its incarnon earlier

[austere tide]

really? why, I haven't used it in a while

[grave cloak]

https://overframe.gg/build/465699/strun-prime/incarnon-strun-viral-electric-corro-blast-variants

[cloud pine]

Any good primaries for Garuda?

[spare halo]

everyone says torid is meta but when i use it against sp enemies it doesnt do much. can anyone help?

[crisp merlin]

Hey y'all. It's that time of year again where I attempt to get back into and try to go sword alone with Ash. I want to use the dragon nikana...or any kinda nikana for that matter, despite if it's meta viable or not. How well would it synergize?

[latent adder]

Do u have torid incarnon?

[latent adder]

Dragon nikana and nikana prime are both good

[spare halo]

Sadly no

Gotta wait two weeks

[latent adder]

Ah then it wont be good until u get it

[crisp merlin]

Awesome. I meant to say Nikana Prime, but yes lol. I'd assume I would need to armor strip with Shurikens or something with spread then go from there 🤔

[still furnace]

I havent used nikana prime in a long time. Still in my top 5 most used melees though.

[wraith rover]

Any Koumei player here? Could somebody explain the penalty for unlucky rolls? Do they disappear after a while? DOes rejecting the decree remove it?

[worthy siren]

this good on here or no? ( i got panzer for priming)

[latent adder]

Nah armor got nerfed his 1 is useless now lol

[solar reef]

even if armor was as strong as it was, it would still be an irrelevant ability. It’s slower priming than using a primer gun.

Seems to be a trend with ash, given that his 4th isn’t worth using outside of high endurance thanks to its speed

[latent adder]

Yeah, u can kinda cope with gas i guess

[midnight horizon]

This is my build now, I somehow want to change Blind Rage bc I hate the efficiency loss (being countered by Streamline rn). Any suggestions?

It has potatoes and forma

[midnight horizon]

1 forma*

[grave cloak]

get more range
swap dreamer's bond for any other aura mod

[midnight horizon]

What can you suggest?

[grave cloak]

suggest for aura mod you mean?

[crisp merlin]

Ah, that must be why some builds suggest wrathful advance or whatever it is

[midnight horizon]

Yes

[grave cloak]

corrosive projection
fits into his innate aura polarity slot, is available from nightwave right now

[midnight horizon]

Ack hahaha

I don't have enough Nw credits

[grave cloak]

any aura is way better than dreamer's bond tbf

[midnight horizon]

Alright, but what would be the focus? Aura mods maybe better if it has specifics don't you think? Hahah

[grave cloak]

not really, use aura mods that are beneficial to yourself tbh

[severe spade]

Okina prime incarnon vs nami solo incarnon which is better for pure light attack spam?

[deep grotto]

Gotva Prime any good?

[zealous rapids]

pretty fun to use, ideal weapon for hammer shot

[velvet pulsar]

...& Brunt

[velvet pulsar]

Most ideal

[grave cloak]

really considering forking out the 100 plat for hammer shot tbh

[velvet pulsar]

I bought it for 80 long ago

[noble depot]

Is a magnetic heat viral a good build for the bubonico?

[grave cloak]

should be fine if you're using it as a primer

[grave cloak]

oh you're using it to kill stuff

[noble depot]

Yeah

It kills but was wondering if I should swap magnetic for a different mod

[orchid raptor]

So ive made a xoris build with the same mods but ive transfered to the glaive to future proof a bit is there any way i can improve this?
Still not too far into the game but yea

[noble depot]

Do you have galvanized melee mods?

[pale belfry]

if you not using glaive prime, so glaive doesnt worth to invest tbh

even falcor could be better

or xoris

[noble depot]

Falcor is the best out of xoris and glaive

[orchid raptor]

Right now i have this glaive it alr had a potato in it so im just using this for now

As of the better weapon i can always swap it but im more conserned abt the build itself,volatile rebound and condition overload are the two main mods i want to use for this build so whatever add to those

[midnight horizon]

I might consider Corrosive Projection, it's good

[midnight horizon]

@granite ginkgo here's my build for him (for now)

[prime sorrel]

Greetings! Is anyone have a Ferrox Tenet build? Is Ferrox even good?

[granite ginkgo]

good in weekly run rotation at least

[astral tinsel]

CO doesn't work on the explosions

[velvet pulsar]

Unless Hitscan AoE?

[pale belfry]

if that is direct hit, not aoe explosive hit

for example: Acceltra, there is direct hit before aoe hit

direct hit -> touch the object -> exploses -> aoe hit

[astral tinsel]

...which glaives aren't

[crisp merlin]

How well does Zephyr pair with the grimoire?

[pale belfry]

depends on which unit that you are dealing with.

Zephyr could fix a lot dmg output because her tonadoes

[crisp merlin]

That's kinda what I was considering. Making tornados then shooting into them with the book

[chrome badge]

i still don't understand her tornados

[cyan parrot]

Is the furax wraith's incarnon worth getting? I'll mainly use it for mesa with Secondary outburst

[velvet pulsar]

Definitely

"Combo Duration paused when holstered"

There's this perk

[cyan parrot]

Oh hell i did not see that. That's actually nuts

[velvet pulsar]

So basically u can have 12× combo while freely walking around with ur primary and then switch to secondary when u wanna spray

Peak outburst setup is Rauta + Crit pistol of choice + amalgam furax Wraith incarnon

• primary dexterity+ arcane Pistoleer+ arcane Velocity

[queen parcel]

is territorial aggression and fear sense any good?

and if they are are they any good/ even work on venari?

[cyan parrot]

Do i just slap Melee crescendo on furax too?

[velvet pulsar]

U can, convenience sake

Though I'm not sure if stacking it will be easy on that thing

[queen parcel]

if all you care about is combo then why not use smth with more reach that can also pause the timer?

or xoris since it has an infinate timer

[velvet pulsar]

"if"
The very first word u began with was what u assumed wrong

[queen parcel]

so explain then please, cause if been meaning to make a good mesa build for a while

[velvet pulsar]

Check out the "Amalgam Furax Body Count" mod

It's a unique thing exclusive to furax

[queen parcel]

ah

i see then

[velvet pulsar]

Everything else is a bonus

I don't think even DE themselves intended this lvl of outburst synergy with this weapon

Besides, furax itself is capable to build combo faster than xoris

The trick is Relentless Combination+ Flashing Bleed (incarnon perk)+ amalgam furax body count+ influence

Though this trick demands kills from furax and has to be reused again and again
While crescendo is just convenient permanently per mission

I find rauta even more convenient so I run that instead

[queen parcel]

and as a bonus it looks really good on mesa

[velvet pulsar]

It looks great in cutscenes

Like ETA assassination

Mesa has regulators attached to her fists so IDK about her fashion with furax

[queen parcel]

nah i meant the rauta

cowboy with shogun always works

[velvet pulsar]

That's something I never thought about

[solar reef]

sybaris would be better thematically if that was your goal

[queen parcel]

nah casue you'd want rauta for the combo increase on hit

[solar reef]

it should also be mentioned that the rauta is based off of technology that came 40ish years after the end of the cowboy era

(its genuinely one of the coolest solutions to a problem that was solved 30 years prior)

[queen parcel]

and mesa is a flesh puppet who shoots so fast there's after images and can create a shield that can reflect almost any and all damage that comes her way

gotta cut corners where you can...

[cyan parrot]

Sooo ditch furax incarnon and use rauta? or both?

[queen parcel]

both

[sacred sapphire]

is ember prime bad?

[celest tusk]

Anyone got a good Boar prime build?

[mighty flare]

very underwhelming yeah

[sacred sapphire]

i bought her because of the heirloom

[cyan parrot]

Honestly reason enough

[mighty flare]

Caster is pretty cooked, she makes an okay weapon platform

[solar reef]

not bad, very awkward and definitely not meta defining

shes just ok

[mighty flare]

Bad

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/kemer-gif-12613115

[mighty flare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1232693040322187370/1416737588206899273/wow-gyatt2.gif

[hot furnace]

trying to choose between Deadhead and Crux

[chrome badge]

i'd say neither and go for frostbite or blight

[versed harbor]

ik about the status gimmick but you should still build crit chance also

[queen parcel]

anyone got a tenet ferrox build?

[cerulean rune]

is the -crit chance a problem with the incarnon's passive ?

OK it seems it does because the crit buff isn't absolute crit like Harrow's

[mighty flare]

riven not even good just reroll

[steel granite]

best archond shards rec for dante

[cerulean rune]

thx, ended up with a +400% damage and +183% crit damage riven with -damage to infested for the Cestra

[midnight horizon]

Depends

[steel granite]

i use non helmith

mainly play around my book';

[cerulean rune]

Don't you want at least 1 yellow shard for casting speed ?

[steel granite]

was thinking 3 strenth and two casting

[midnight horizon]

You can go for oranges to stack crit with the book then. See if you hadn't mentioned that, I woulda just recommended reds for ability strength

[steel granite]

orange?

[midnight horizon]

Yeah

Do you not have the combined colors?

[cerulean rune]

+crit chance on kill on a target witha heat status I suppose

[latent adder]

I run 3 cast 2 dur

[latent adder]

Or 2 cast 3 dur

Not needing to recast abilities as often and making it faster to cast feels alot better

[steel granite]

wait

ninjase are you the one thats all over overframe for builds?

[midnight horizon]

Usually yellows are almost mandatory for casting speed cuz this dude be playing tictactoe by himself a lot

Then the rest is up to preference

[latent adder]

Yes

[steel granite]

nice to meet you gang

i like your builds but i do tweak them a bit

[latent adder]

👍

[steel granite]

i was thinking 3 strenth two cast and 1 duration

but how will orange work?

or which orange one to use

[latent adder]

Orange would be secondary crit

[midnight horizon]

You have to mod heat into your books, but again it's all preference

[latent adder]

But only if u love noctua

Hotshot exists anyway

[steel granite]

oh my book is elec and slash

[latent adder]

In my mind dante has no strength thresholds and there are many external sources of strength, but very few external sources of duration

So i just pump duration as much as possible

[midnight horizon]

Less spamming abilities huh

[latent adder]

Yeah

[midnight horizon]

I'd go that direction too ngl

[latent adder]

Every second saved recasting is zen lol

[wanton widget]

So revisiting the Argonak. Never really did any investing into the weapon but it is apparently the combo piece to the Rakta Fart Dagger combo. While the Dagger is fantastic... if the Argonak worth building into? Example build. Assume any one of the formas could be a omni forma. thoughts?

[midnight horizon]

It's not really worth building

[wanton widget]

yeah but that mod does great for full armor stripping though

[midnight horizon]

Honestly if you're going melee, you either want to fully main it or you don't but that means you have to free your gun slots and not have them be taken by utility weapons, like argonak

[midnight horizon]

Which is the only mod worth slotting in

And amalgam serration

Rest is eh it's not a good dps gun

[wanton widget]

Okay. then how should I build it... I don't want this gun going in naked

[mighty flare]

regular viral heat

[midnight horizon]

Corrosive Projection

Base on the stats, it removes armor... how do you get that?

[midnight horizon]

You can get it from trading or most commonly from nightwave

[midnight horizon]

Gah, 20 creds, I only have 10 left hahahahahah

Better start grinding

Oh yeah I need to start grinding

[hidden patio]

I need more.

I NEED MORE CRITICAL CHANCE AND CRITICAL DAMAGE

[velvet pulsar]

Both

[velvet pulsar]

Ditching in question is for crescendo

[noble depot]

What can I replace to make my xakus survivability better?

[hard dove]

Why do you need 2 armor strip ability
Also rolling guard over redirection

And maybe just use regular stretch over archon one

[noble depot]

Bet

I dont have 2 armor striping abilities i helminthed over his gear wheel for ophanium eyes jades helminth

since ophanium eyes affect acolytes I use that

[acoustic bluff]

You can remove archon vitality, primed redirection, use steadfast over energize, subsume pillage if you can

Use rolling guard over primed redirection and can use transient fortitude over archon vitality

[queen parcel]

any builds to make the tenet ferrox good?

[craggy vector]

no 💔

[wooden silo]

Any nekros prime bulids?

Ima new player tho i got him rn

[strange halo]

Box is covering amalgam serration and critical delay
Riven is cc cd

Single shot is a slow but high dps beam, throw is continuous obstruct CC

[thin harness]

Why do i see a lot of gara build not having range like prime reach on her exalted weapon?

[queen parcel]

So what do I put in place of the riven?

[minor zenith]

Is corrosive pointless to have on a weapon if I am armor stripping?

[charred gale]

if ur full stripping everything constantly sure

[minor zenith]

I use mags augment that full strips enemies the only exceptions are some necromechs and the legacyte from the plague star event

[grave cloak]

Building for range on the frame itself(gara in this case) is always better as the exalted also scales from ability range

[grave cloak]

Then yes, it'll be pointless. I'll just mod for another element at that point if you can full strip enemy defenses

[minor zenith]

Awesome thank you

[strange halo]

Hammer shot or galv scope

[novel bear]

The range is already high, and you can mod it higher on Gara
Primed reach is a minor increase comparatively since it’s flat

[smoky widget]

any issues on this build?

[near vortex]

it's too peak imo

You need to add something to make it look bad

[smoky widget]

oh my bad

but i gotchu

[near vortex]

Oh hell yeah
Now we're talking

https://tenor.com/view/okay-the-thing-ben-grimm-the-fantastic-four-first-steps-alright-gif-3460638912377461755

[vital elbow]

Hi, I’m currently using this build for my Sobek alongside Saryn, and I’m wondering if it’s worth going for a critical build with mods like "Critical Deceleration" or "Primed Ravage"

Also, is the Augment mod Clip Delegation really necessary for Sobek? It’s quite pricey, so I’m still thinking about it

[near vortex]

Clip Delegation will come back one day. It's good, but it isn't required

I don't think you need to go for crit on your Sobek, I'd just follow Ninjase's build on Overframe. One thing you should note is that Cleanse mods with Saryn are actually ridiculous with the triple dip, so something to think about there

[vital elbow]

Should I swap out Primed Point Blank for a Cleanse mod like Primed Cleanse Orokin from the Void Trader now

[midnight horizon]

Go roar fr

[mighty flare]

yes cleanse over point blank

[near vortex]

Yes
You already have Galv Savvy for base damage, so you don't need point blank

[storm grotto]

which?

[near vortex]

I'm not a riven expert, sadly

[shrewd leaf]

anyone got any builds for void cascade level cap on gauss? Ive been running my main excalibur umbra build but he doesnt really seem to be made for level cap and I die near the end and dont get anything after like an hour of playing ;-; someone recommended gauss with arcane aegis and fast deflection

[charred gale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/952596922290556988/1264981528518070382/i-text.gif

[grave cloak]

I use this build and it works perfectly fine - personally I will not gonna suggest exploiting bugs for survivability as it will not teach you anything

molt augmented is flexible for arcane hot shot/arcane ice storm

[shrewd leaf]

ty

[grave cloak]

the only "bug" that I will really recommend abusing is catalyzing shields since it requires some form of active play still

[mighty flare]

after you get fast deflection and aegis, you'll need status immunity from wrym, fortifier or arcane nullifier for protection from magnetic procs

do you want to caster nuke or weapon platform

[charred gale]

whats keeping u alive in this build?

[grave cloak]

staying at 100% battery with your 4 up, crowd control from spamming cold thermal sunder and increased passive shield recharge from redline

[charred gale]

ic

[mighty flare]

whats the point of swearing against aegis only to still rely on shield recharge rate
who uses kinetic plating in lvl cap

[smoky widget]

any improvments?

[midnight horizon]

If only kinetic reduces at a fixed level regardless of damage taken. Like -5% per hit

One can only dream

[pale belfry]

idk why you subsume kullervo over doom

[smoky widget]

its a melee build

[pale belfry]

then why you keep 4th and 1st ?

[smoky widget]

cuz the 4th nukes enemies and its funny

[midnight horizon]

But it's a melee build

[smoky widget]

yeah the main goal of it

kinda dual purpose

[pale belfry]

but you using the augment working with Doom tho?

[smoky widget]

yeah

it applies doom for me

[pale belfry]

my crap...

this is how doom look like, what you just subsumed it

[smoky widget]

huh

[pale belfry]

doom provide a large amount dmg on hit, which you just subsumed it with advanced wrath instead of 1st ability or 4th

[smoky widget]

aye but i dont need doom

the 1 helps me kill heaftier units cuz viral, and i spam 4 when i get bored of being melee

[pale belfry]

whaever you use tho.

I just say that

[smoky widget]

wdym

[midnight horizon]

Any thoughts?

[agile vortex]

what should I add/change?

[charred gale]

take off condition overload and add on weeping wounds and blood rush

[sweet herald]

anyone got a level cap mesa build?

[dense geode]

Is Cataclysmic Gate effected by Roar and Eclipse?

[wet wing]

Help

[charred gale]

right

[grave cloak]

Aegis only has a 3% chance of activating

[green gyro]

that's not a problem

for gauss

[velvet pulsar]

It's perma active on gauss

[grave cloak]

gauss doesn't need it tbh but if you are still struggle with on demand invincibility then use it I guess.

[green gyro]

it's a better build when you use it

no reason not to

his 2 is garbage at higher levels

[grave cloak]

your higher levels are...?

[hard dove]

2 need battery build up and can drain fast while not at 100% battery
Aegis takes no effort

[grave cloak]

spam cold thermal sunders 🤷‍♀️

[hard dove]

Again
1 takes no effort to do

Well getting aegis is an effort on it's own i suppose

[grave cloak]

wait have we really reached the point in the game where spamming an ability like thermal sunder is considered "takes effort"?

[hard dove]

I'm being objective

1 is a small number but it's still bigger than 0.1

[pale belfry]

if you dont want spend more braincells to worry about survivalbility, then use aegis is fine

if you want something like min max dmg output, put that arcane out and use other method like shield recharge with brief respite

and vazarin

Btw, i dont think people need speed on gauss, tbh. You keep kissing the wall and not fast equal those frame got parkour velocity in XXL tileset map

But if you think its fun, so just use it.

[lunar gale]

what's a bigger dmg increase for caliban's ortholysts with razor mortar, roar or nourish ??

[midnight horizon]

Roar + outsource viral

[velvet pulsar]

Spam cold thermal sunder or mach rush to get damage immunity AFTER 1/3rd of ur modded duration

VS

Walk a little or press mach rush a couple of times and then let aegis proc for eternal damage immunity

Both of them do not protect from toxin one-shots.

Pick ur choice

100% battery point is Time Gated at 1/3rd of redline's duration

And everytime redline will expire after it, you'll have to wait that time gate penalty again

[velvet pulsar]

Me on my way to turn Nyx not just into a cheese survivor, but also a cheese nuker and a cheese support.

My whole squad will thank me if they realize what I did, and in return I'll thank them for eating damage.

[solar reef]

I would use Nourish anyways, as they will prime every enemy on the map, in function

They literally hit everything

ortholysts are the best viral primers in the game

[velvet pulsar]

Just hope there's no xaku in the squad with The Lost not subsumed over

[solar reef]

lost me at squad

[velvet pulsar]

Also specifically for Jat Kittag, I'll recommend Xata's Whisper on Caliban

[solar reef]

oh theyre using blast melee

[velvet pulsar]

I call this "Xata Caliban Vulcan Blitz"

[solar reef]

didnt see that

[velvet pulsar]

IDK honestly
I just leaked my own strat

[solar reef]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096787990556201022/1100509182496608286/attachment.gif

[velvet pulsar]

I'm not gonna gatekeep like the cascade addicts

...or warframe"knowers"

[solar reef]

cascadetards do everything but gatekeep man
if they see you running anything other that what they use, down to a single mod, they will publicly hang you by your suspenders

they have to make sure everyones using their cascade setup exactly

including madurai/operator arcanes

its weird

never a problem for people that level cap anything else

[velvet pulsar]

No... No...
It makes sense, just by saying 3 letters.

O C D

[solar reef]

its not ocd though

its just like a

[velvet pulsar]

Perfectionism?

[solar reef]

“my builds INFINITELY better than yours so you suck and must change because i level cap and im better”

[velvet pulsar]

Superiority Complex

[solar reef]

that build obviously doesnt do as well in casual steelpath as they do in level cap either

so its probably not worth using for the players they’re telling to use it

I always build my stuff so that I could comfortably take it to level cap, but not exclusively

god forbid i have to change my build for different content levels

[velvet pulsar]

I wonder how much oberon rework gonna change things coz of smite subsume

[solar reef]

i didnt look too hard into him but wont he be good for Lycath’s Hunt

since his shield things will be fueled by orbs?

or am i misunderstanding that

[velvet pulsar]

There's more than that option

And yes, it'll be good

[analog stirrup]

He already has tools in his kit to poop orbs everywhere, lycanth's would just be overkill... Still, that reason never stopped anyone

[velvet pulsar]

Lycath's Hunt, Citrine subsume (high strength), Pool of Life, a hound can proc both Synth Deconstruct and Universal Fallout by Manifold Bond+ Synergized Prospectus

[analog stirrup]

Plenty of ways to go about it

His 4 should also make them poop hp orbs... Or was it the carpet? Cant recall rn

[velvet pulsar]

4

Carpet procs a ton of radiation for universal fallout

[analog stirrup]

That was it, been too long since I've looked at the goat propperly...

[velvet pulsar]

Several layers of survivability, only to find out that Oberon has his own no effort infinite revive strat.

It's like finding a boss who u cannot defeat unless plot armor because he simply wasn't coded for any "on death" scenario

(just an example)

[pulsar glade]

thoughts on this?

[still furnace]

What's the riven stats?

[dense geode]

how much strength would be "enough" strength for Roar (helminth)

I want enough strength wihtout diminishing returns if possible because I wanna build other stats

[still furnace]

334% strength is 100% on helminth roar

Depends how big of a buff you want

[slim mesa]

what should my last mod slot be?

[minor storm]

anyone have a good vasto build?

[fluid abyss]

Is there a berserker build for Garuda prime ?

[sick rivet]

should i bulid noctua for staus or crit

[mighty flare]

did you ignore the person asking for help on a lvl cap build

[astral tinsel]

fire rate

[charred schooner]

My Pyrana needs work...

[charred schooner]

Maybe this? But with max rank primd mods, of course.

[high marsh]

Guys Im currently doing a build for azothane because I really LOVE the design, but why exactly every single build I see is based in strong attacks?

[midnight horizon]

You mean heavy attacks?

Because it's a heavy blade class. Light attacks are not ideal

Wait is it a dual wield nikana or smth I forgot point is light attacks are just not recommended

I also love its design, I used to main it with a heavy spam build

[high marsh]

Dual Nikana I went to Fortuna to farm the pose for them and Im currently doing a build for them could someone send me one?

[midnight horizon]

Well you could just use all the heavy attack builds you saw earlier

I'll give you an example
Amalgam organ shatter
Sac steel
Sac press
Killing blow / range mod
Galv reflex
Normal elementalist
Faction damage mod
Attack speed mod

[slim mesa]

ophanim eyes with zephyr pretty good

[high marsh]

Kay Ill do it thx

[mighty flare]

you dont build attack speed on heavy spam

[midnight horizon]

Don't attack speed affect the time between heavy attacks, meanwhile wind up speed affects the swing speed

[mighty flare]

yes

its just not worth using mod slots for when you would want melee range

or anything else more important

you also have several wind up mods there

[midnight horizon]

You can use a heat mod instead since iirc that thing procs heat

[mighty flare]

you use reach

[midnight horizon]

Yeah it's in the killing blow / range mod one

[mighty flare]

reach isnt a flex mod with killing blow

those are 2 different types of mods

[midnight horizon]

I'll fix it rq
Dual sac mods
Amalgam organ shatter
Galv reflex
Heat mod
Range mod
Faction damage
normal elementalist

Does that look better

[mighty flare]

you have faction twice

[midnight horizon]

Oops

[mighty flare]

also no on heat mod

the only element mod worth considering for heavy spam is primed fever strike (when single slotting elements)

[midnight horizon]

Now I remember why I stopped maining this

That should work

[mighty flare]

you dont really use heat mods on heavy spam weapons

[high marsh]

I was coping one from overframe I can send you

[midnight horizon]

Don't this thing proc heat anyway

[mighty flare]

azothane?

[midnight horizon]

Yeah it's azoth

[high marsh]

Correct

[mighty flare]

doesnt proc heat on heavy

[midnight horizon]

That was the whole discussion

[mighty flare]

and the forced slash on heavy doesnt need heat

[midnight horizon]

Oh it's a blocking combo...

Aight I guess I'll fix it one more

[mighty flare]

the only element mods you consider on heavy spam is: primed fever strike and the other hae mods

[midnight horizon]

Dual sac mods
Amalgam organ shatter
Galv reflex
Range mod
Faction damage
normal elementalist
Killing blow / attack speed mod / primed fever strike

Whatchu think now

[high marsh]

Can I replace faction damage with anything? I use them for basically ANY missions

[mighty flare]

attack speed mod not really worth mentioning if using 2-3 wind up mods

[mighty flare]

yeah

[midnight horizon]

Then you can use attack speed mod there and mod the last one with killing blow or primed fever

Really those slots are flexible

[high marsh]

I will note this down ty both

[dense geode]

Does Roar work in any peculiar way with Glaives or nah?

Cuz eclipse does some weird shi, I just wanna know if Roar does too

[midnight horizon]

Double dips on its DoTs, triple dips on melee influence DoTs

That's really it

[dense geode]

Ty <3

[novel bear]

Non-subsumed eclipse is almost always better than non-subsumed roar for glaives
And the only time it isn’t is if you’re in a void fissure with a nidus

[smoky widget]

does helios benefit from vector thread widget or is still 2 seconds

[shell tundra]

Would it be stupid of me to LFG someone to supervise me rolling a riven? I know what stats I want, but I’m used to having someone else with me to supervise so I don’t pass up an important stat

[mighty flare]

yes its additive

[grave cloak]

I'd say to scroll up but surely you're not that stupid

[mighty flare]

have you used gauss' 2 during lvl cap?

[grave cloak]

Indeed

[mighty flare]

so you must realize how stupid it is to say you're relying on the shield recharge delay from his battery?

[grave cloak]

No it isn't, since it's not really that hard to charge up the battery even with the 2 active (unless you suffer from a massive skill issue)

[mighty flare]

okay

good luck with whatever you got

[grave cloak]

I'd say the same to you but I doubt you truly mean it🤏 so all I'll say is🫡

[mighty flare]

i wholeheartedly mean it, good luck 😔

[spiral verge]

Is it good to mod randomly without guidance and figuring stuff out, or is reading the wiki and watching build guides normal?
Thing is, I don't feel like doing research for a game. At least not often enough to rely on it.

Also, on the topic of builds, is there like... a list of basic builds for different frames to give me a starting point?
For example, I don't know how to build for Banshee or Lavos, and I want to learn, not blindly follow overpowered builds from youtube.

[charred gale]

I mean it should be fine as long as u arent literally putting on the worst mods possible

And ur only doing “relevant” content

U can always just copy ninjace build too

For warframe builds u just kinda have to read the abilities and augment mods and figure out what stats u want on it

[mighty flare]

reading wiki is fine, build guides are 5050 quality, you can just ask questions here or in the player-helping-players thing

[shell tundra]

Which is less bad?

[midnight horizon]

A thousand rolls is crazy

[shell tundra]

I’m aiming for 1500

[charred gale]

I think its more like 70/30 and 70% of them are bad

[spiral verge]

Kinda thinking that sharing builds and asking for opinions in game is a good way to do that?
I know there are mods and status effects that are generally considered "good" and "bad" but the thing is, I don't know all of them. For example, I didn't know Galvanized mods were a thing until literally 2 days ago and I have nearly 500 hours in this game.

[charred gale]

If u look at other ppls builds ur gonna eventually figure out all the good mods

Ninjace also explains his builds in his guides

So if ur tryna learn it could be pretty nice

[versed sigil]

Thoughts on weapons for Valkyr? Given how much she's using Hysteria now Id appreciate support-focused reccomendations for her primary/secondary/melee slots

[novel bear]

Reading the wiki is mandatory since in game ability descriptions are always barebones

[mighty flare]

cedo/miter/rauta, use primary dexterity
grimoire/epitaph, use primary dexterity & amalgam barrel diffusion
praedos, stack tennokai mods

[versed sigil]

oh shit, tennokai is still inherited?

[mighty flare]

unless they ghost patched it, yeah

[versed sigil]

fun!

also would Bubonico work in a pinch?

[mighty flare]

yeah

bubo good primer too

[versed sigil]

trying to make the praedos tennokai synergy work in simu, doesnt seem to work

do I need to have Tennokai on both for it to work?

[severe bough]

Friend of mine sended me that vid and said "see multishot doesnt work"
Does the guy in the vid is right with the multishot myth thing?
As i understood it correctly it acts as AOE explosion which ignores All multishot buffs only the main beam is affect and the chained beam is not
https://youtu.be/WeskDSI-KPc?si=qDs_PlQpZpoK8VB9

Has it not smth to do with that so it doesnt have additional instances instead it like merges into one where ms doesnt really effect the beam but effects the ticks and statuses?

[deep grotto]

Anyone got a neat Gotva Prime build?

[latent adder]

Theres a bug on guns with "hitscan aoe" which includes all beams with a small aoe at the end such as ignis, torid

The aoe component ignores multishot

It means the beams spawned by the aoe on torid dont use multishot but if u ever hit something directly with torid, multishot def matters

It also affects the incarnon meter charging rate

So ultimately, id stick to multishot

[opaque ridge]

Which one???

[latent adder]

Right

Use it for slam mire

[opaque ridge]

Slam weapon I guess that’s why the toxin wave with toxic interesting 🤔 what is a good WF with it?

Ok ok This is the last Roll I promise for tonight what do you think of this one ?

[latent adder]

Still left

Pretty hard to beat left now tbh

Basically IC, tox, crit m dmg, cc

[opaque ridge]

Got it Tenno I keep that one so the first roll was the right one! Lol 😂

[shell tundra]

Have I peaked here or is my luck so unimaginably bad that this riven is legit cursed

[opaque ridge]

Oh my Goodness

Did you unveil with cipher? Or with Weapons Disposition?

[shell tundra]

I unlocked this riven a few years ago

I know I did the challenge tho

And the Larkspur Prime’s disposition is x0.80 according to the wiki

[strange halo]

Does galvenized shot and secondary encumber not play off eachother as intuition would expect?

[versed sigil]

Depends on the weapon afaik

[strange halo]

Pyrana p

[mighty flare]

What did you expect exactly?

[strange halo]

Was playing with it and not getting the silly damage i was expecting. But i kinda tabling it for the night and just trying to maybe get a clue

And maybe its just the shotgun effect and i gotta video it to analyze what numbers are what

Expecting +80% damage x status effects. I know multishot doesnt increase encumber tics but it does count for the 24% chance for encumber so you get a new status on every shot

But now im realizing i shouldve been using single sp eximus if i really wanted to figure it out.

Like i know shot encumber on ocucor works nutty and i was expecting the same from pyrana because of its multishot.

[austere tide]

What should I put on dual toxocyst for steel path?

[queen parcel]

Do passives like nekros count towards archon intensify

[versed harbor]

pyrana is just rly old and outdated, it needs tons of outside buffing to keep up nowadays

its only rly good for plague star cus of the ms

[dense geode]

Does condition overload not work on glaives…?

[hard dove]

On boom no

[hidden geyser]

is a 54.1% element adversary weapon combined with a 55.7% element adversary weapon enough to hit 60% my main one is the 54.1%

[feral fern]

Does anyone have a good Frost tank/armor strip build?

[dense geode]

Well that kinda ruins it :c

[halcyon forge]

You get 10% of the higher weapons bonus and anything above 58 is rounded to 60

So 55.7% + 5.57% = 60. Doesn't matter what % your donor item is

[hidden geyser]

This doesn’t make sense for my brian

What do you mean with higher weapons bonus?

Like the percentage of the higher weapon of the 2 so in my case the donor 55.7% and 10% of that is that what you mean?

[velvet pulsar]

There's no such thing as 58% bonus

[hidden geyser]

That I know

I’m just trying to understand the math

So I don’t have to always ask it on discord

[halcyon forge]

1. Take the higher of the two bonuses.
2. Multiply by 1.1
3. If greater than 58, round up to 60

Doesn't matter if its the original wrapon or the donor. 10% of the higher

[hidden geyser]

So basically add 10% on top even if the donor weapon has way lower percentage then the main one btw?

[halcyon forge]

Once you get a weapon to 52.8% bonus, you get 60 with one fusion. And yes!

[hidden geyser]

Thx now this is way clearer

Now I don’t have to always ask it here

[halcyon forge]

Now if you have a 25% bonus weapon youre keeping and you have a 40% donor

That 25% will come out as 44% keeping the higher value

[hidden geyser]

Thx so much

[halcyon forge]

No problem! Reminds me, I have to farm some donors

[hidden geyser]

Now I just need more live heartcells xD

[hidden geyser]

Good luck with that cya

[zealous needle]

question chromas effigy counts as a summon if yes is there a good effigy build where u subsume the frist ability if so can someone help cuz i like the ability but its dogshit

[severe bough]

Ty for the reply ninjase

[dense geode]

Pure electric or viral Xoris?

Just assume I’m running Roar subsume

[charred gale]

pure elec

[balmy oracle]

which one?

[pale belfry]

right

[wooden portal]

Anybody have a good nyx peime build?

[velvet pulsar]

My time has come...

[snow ice]

Right

[wooden portal]

Do share

[velvet pulsar]

I have used dispensary subsume on 3
Molt Efficiency and Arcane Avenger

Alternatively, u can use Decoy subsume on 3 with Damage decoy augment, replace Equilibrium with damage decoy and arcane avenger with Energize or universal fallout (gonna be a bit pain to farm)

Companions:
All robotic companions are immortal as long as her 4 is active.
I use a Moa with verglas prime and duplex bond, so I have 4 immortal moa, running a fully built blast modded verglas prime, and the main moa double dips on Summoner's Wrath on blast verglas.

Melee:
Ack & Brunt with Electromagnetic Shielding mod and Guardian Derision in case you're playing in squad.
This will allow u to absorb 50% damage from squadmates and charge ur own nuke while u stand in block mode.

In case squadmates are away, casting mind control on damage decoy will build absorb nuke alternatively.

[velvet pulsar]

(3-4 augment build sounds like a meme but it sure is damn good)

[velvet pulsar]

For companion, u can alternatively run sahasa kubrow as a makeshift dispensary, however being a non-robotic companion, it won't remain invulnerable during Assimilate.

[velvet pulsar]

(if Energize or universal fallout are too much annoying to get, u can alternatively keep Equilibrium, and replace pacifying bolts with damage decoy instead)

[quiet laurel]

bro completely lost it

replying to himself

3 times

[severe bough]

[velvet pulsar]

Gotta put everything I can catch up

Stating alternatives, so better reference it rather than edit it

[mighty flare]

at least its well thought out yk

seen some funky nyx stuff in recent days

[quiet laurel]

as in bad builds or as in new tech being discovered

[mighty flare]

bad

[quiet laurel]

I mean thats just playwarframe

[mighty flare]

not from here

[quiet laurel]

but I personally also dislike nyx

dont see much reason to play her

her kit is just questionable

I will never understand buffs that need enemies alive

[velvet pulsar]

Her 4 is stuffed with invulnerability + non-LoS nuke which breaks object based health too (which means cratebreaker as well)

[quiet laurel]

ok but like

equinox

[near vortex]

If you subsume over three you should run narrow minded somewhere

[velvet pulsar]

Her passive is questionable, yes.
Though her passive is additive so that immediately neglects any reasoning.

Let's be honest, there were several contrary buffs given in recent reworks.
Like health tanking frames getting invulnerability because they already know health tank bad and instead of fixing it, give invulnerability.

[near vortex]

If you can invest two red shards (one or two being tau) shards you can slot narrow minded over auger secrets

[velvet pulsar]

I avoided any big mod so far because forma
But now that plague star has passed, maybe.
It's just I don't really need that much high duration

[near vortex]

Do you need any other stat?

[velvet pulsar]

Instead I used 2 tau red shard for duration

[near vortex]

You only need the 125% strength for the strip and range doesn't matter if you subsume over 3

[velvet pulsar]

Thinking to put Damage Decoy, it doesn't need range right?

[mighty flare]

the duration diff between mc & decoy

[mighty flare]

does not yeah

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah that's too inconvenient

[mighty flare]

its why i stopped using it

[mighty flare]

oh i have been working on invulnerable nonabsorb nyx tech

a bit janky

[velvet pulsar]

Also my peak build rn uses dispensary coz I can pick orbs irrespective of enemy presence

My alternate choice would be then sahasa kubrow as footed dispensary, which I don't wanna use with nyx

[velvet pulsar]

I already have one

[mighty flare]

tradeoff was no absorb nuke so i didnt care

[velvet pulsar]

It is universal on almost every frame.
Every frame can be gauss-like invulnerable with mind control (terms and conditions apply)

[near vortex]

I saw a couple interesting Nyx builds from a Nyx main around subsuming 4 for something else, like Chyrinka pillar over 4 with the 3 augment for pure crowd control

[mighty flare]

it wasnt any shield regen or fortifier stuff

[velvet pulsar]

Basically use shield regen stuff which gauss uses but also mind control a guardian eximus (make sure there's no allied shield osprey)

[near vortex]

Isn't health tanking with a leech eximus not terrible?

[mighty flare]

chyrinka pretty memey considering you could just run her 3 augment and silence

[velvet pulsar]

Mind Control leech eximus is insanely powerful

One of the only 2 things in the game which can heal a defense objective as per % value, bypassing the 500/s heal cap.

And in higher lvls, leech eximus stolen health from enemies scales great damage to build absorb

One other mind control contender better than that is jade eximus, but that's just pure offence, no defence

[dull junco]

Is Xata’s Whisper a good subsume over Caliban Prime’s Sentient Wrath (2nd Ability)

[velvet pulsar]

Specifically if xata is putting a synergy in context

Let's say, low status chance weapons, which either deal blast damage or headshot with electric or gas damage.

[dull junco]

I was mainly using it for extra weapon damage on my Nataruk, because I had only been using calibans other moves(Basically just Razor Gyre, and his Ortholysts)

[velvet pulsar]

I wonder if longbow sharpshot will double dip on xata.

Though nataruk gets easy headshots so definitely great with xata.
And if u don't get headshots, I recommend modding for blast damage.

[dull junco]

Awesome, thank you for the feedback

[queen parcel]

Do passives like nekros count towards archon intensify

[potent marten]

Nope since it's not an ability

[velvet pulsar]

Yet I think some DEvs do call those "passive ability"

Misused terms are canon in Warframe

[potent marten]

Anyways, you'll be limited to melees if you wanna make a full use of nekros passive

It can be good for health tanking (which is what nekros is insanely good at)

You know what, lemme check rq If the passive procs archon intensify cuz it got me curious

[velvet pulsar]

Realistically that archon intensify is mainly gonna be used on terrify or subsume ability (even though terrify doesn't require high str)

[devout valve]

no

[potent marten]

Ik it shouldn't, but idk maybe the spaghetti code made it possible somehow now idk

It wouldn't hurt

[chrome badge]

pretty sure not

its not an ability

[velvet pulsar]

Also Nekros has a lot of hidden tricks in his 4

And to think people susbume over it because it blocks their shots

[wooden silo]

Anyone got a beginner prime nekros bulid and a regular volt beginner bulid???

[queen parcel]

i'm trying to make a loot build is all

any recs?

[devout valve]

good range and surv to not die

he has no mechanics u can abuse

[queen parcel]

damm

[potent marten]

im a certified nekros main, trust me when i say it he is insanly good people just dont know how to use him

[devout valve]

so most of the time he is a simple weapons platform

[velvet pulsar]

Have u tried niche guardian eximus strat?

[queen parcel]

i was thinking about putting his efficiency at 60 to at least make anything within 10m not take away health

[potent marten]

ofc

[velvet pulsar]

[devout valve]

u dont need to use despoil

1 equ shards fixes all of his energy problems

and opens up a mod slot for w/e u want

[vagrant sandal]

thinking about new oberon, can't decide if I wanna go strength shards because big heal number is funny, or ability damage to actually be useful

[devout valve]

wait to see his numbers

his 4 may actually deal dmage

cope

[velvet pulsar]

Smite will already cap at 75% HP
So manifold bond viral primers will already be useful nuke

[queen parcel]

eeehhhhh still, i feel better about despoil then using energy, energy is a lot mroe fickle for me

[devout valve]

norish

its his best subsume anyway

[velvet pulsar]

@potent marten
Can Rift Haven heal his summons to keep them immortal?

[potent marten]

no ability can be a good healing source for them but the actual survivabily tool for them is one guardian and like two leeches

the will stay alaive forever

in lvl cap as well

[devout valve]

and u want to refresh the shadows anyway

[potent marten]

cuz they have waaaaaaay more health than the enemies

[devout valve]

so they scale better with lvl

[potent marten]

nah, not when you have the right shadow setup

[velvet pulsar]

"good healing source" as in lackluster or completely nill?

[potent marten]

when youre in cap you dont need that

[devout valve]

well a lvl cap shadow is better then a lvl 1k shadow

[potent marten]

lackluster

[potent marten]

ofc

[velvet pulsar]

Rift Haven is % HP heal

25% HP per second at base str

So 4 seconds irrespective of lvl

[queen parcel]

what's his 2nd best then? i dont have norish

[velvet pulsar]

Also well of life

(when damaging the target)

[devout valve]

no ther ability benefits nekros as much as nourish

[queen parcel]

ok

[devout valve]

and grendel is easy to farm

[queen parcel]

but i dont have nourish

[devout valve]

farm grendel then

[queen parcel]

then come and help me once i finish my SP circuit if it's so easy then

[devout valve]

its modless mission

[potent marten]

barely working

[queen parcel]

i dont wanna farm arbitration

[velvet pulsar]

Impossible, well of life is the only uncapped heal which affects everything

Even defense objectives

[potent marten]

the range is a problem

[queen parcel]

i thought oberon can also heal defnese

[velvet pulsar]

Ah

[potent marten]

the shadows ai isnt the best to say the least

[velvet pulsar]

Every other heal is capped on objectives at 500 HP/s

Except Well of Life lifesteal share and friendly leech eximus

[velvet pulsar]

And yeah on rift haven, recasts will be the practical issue

[queen parcel]

is gloom good?

[devout valve]

i mean its just life steal

[queen parcel]

i want an ability that can heal

[velvet pulsar]

It does count as high range damage by nekros to proc his 3

[devout valve]

nekros heals himself

[queen parcel]

i dont really care about the shadows, i'm just using them to keep attention away from me

[devout valve]

and u want good range for your 3 so the drain of gloom will be something

[velvet pulsar]

Gloom is workable

[queen parcel]

only at 10 meters, it's to proc archon intesify

[devout valve]

and i dislike cc abilities in general

[velvet pulsar]

Gloom doesn't proc archon intensify

[queen parcel]

n.,jKMZX

[velvet pulsar]

[devout valve]

ye

[queen parcel]

mother