builds-discussion

[copper zodiac]

Is nova’s neutrom star augment important if my main focus is just her 2nd ability

[charred schooner]

Ah, I see, if I want to secure headshots I bury my gun into them to stack Crux easier. It's quite effective. Feels like it needs a little something extra, something about statuses beyond freezing everything...

[granite ginkgo]

did u try gas + elec?

yea cedo gameplay basically alt fire then normal fire, since it got primer build in
CONDITION OVERLOAD i mean

[charred schooner]

Gas... not sold, but does remind me that if chroma's buff is base damage then elemental mods will go hard

[granite ginkgo]

it ur go to "regen" antimatter for damage reduction, but not really if u dont want it

[granite ginkgo]

up to u buddy

[charred schooner]

I'll sleep on it

[mighty flare]

where are you getting ur dmg%?

[charred schooner]

Chroma Vex Armor, my current build with him can reach 1199% Weapon Damage wihout external or operator support

[granite ginkgo]

not sure that bugged value or not

[charred schooner]

dera incarnon can get an evolution that increases base crit chance based on current status chance
I'm super picky and won't use it because not prime aesthetic
Suffering

[craggy vector]

what kind of arcane would i want to run with harmony i know it cant be influence because of its unique trait

[granite ginkgo]

ngl it influence

overall u be build heavy atk mechanic

so u need tennokai mod

[craggy vector]

oh

[queen parcel]

anyone got a crit tenet glaxion build?

and this is for frost btw, cause i know that's important

[granite ginkgo]

how many augment mod u put on frost? 3?

[queen parcel]

2

[granite ginkgo]

should be passive stack(enemy freeze) and 1st skill augment that matter

[queen parcel]

na i'm using the 4th augment

[granite ginkgo]

4th skill for overguard which not really much beside survivalbility and stun locked

[queen parcel]

so i want 3?

[granite ginkgo]

depend on what u can swap, and what polarities u been using

biting froze is mandatory btw

frost*

[queen parcel]

right

but what about the crit glaxion?

[granite ginkgo]

u crit from frost augment, and then with 1st skill augment, u dont need to build "combo" + cold, since the augment become independt element

[queen parcel]

also why do i need freeze force? it already comes with cold

ah i see

[granite ginkgo]

as long u put the biting froze and freeze force/or icy avalance

[queen parcel]

so i can have either 1st or 4th augment?

[granite ginkgo]

yea, so as for glaxion u dont really need crit build with frost

[queen parcel]

waht do you mean?

[granite ginkgo]

you want swap crit with shred mod

[queen parcel]

do you have a picture i cna copy off of?

[astral smelt]

Is the kronen a good weapon or not?

[ruby relic]

which one is better? xd

[granite ginkgo]

without frost:
https://overframe.gg/build/668226/tenet-glaxion/tenet-glaxion-viral-electric-heat-with-variants/
w frost u can swap crit mod with status+

glaxion augment:
https://overframe.gg/build/668833/tenet-glaxion/tenet-glaxion-corrosive-cold-energy-maker/

[pale belfry]

right

since you not gonna need that little amount attack speed cause you gonna spam heavy all the time

[ruby relic]

ty

[stable glen]

Would kuva drakgoon be good for spreading fire procs due to the bouncing? Or does the low base status chance make it just not worth it?

[mighty flare]

why do you want to spread fire procs?

[stable glen]

Ember's passive

[mighty flare]

cant use epitaph?

[stable glen]

I mean I could but epitaph gets boring after a while ya know?

[mighty flare]

would rather use cedo then

[stable glen]

Cedo would be good but I have it specifcally built for Lavos

Oh well maybe I'll do trumna. Drakgoon seems fun so I wondered if it could fit what I'm currently building on ember.

[serene jasper]

Is there a need for me to do a specific build or can i just do whatever is fun

[stable glen]

I usually try to go for fun but decent. Not all the meta stuff and gloom subsumes or whatever but putting in the effort to make it decent. Usually can work out well and you can get some effective gimmick builds.

[mighty flare]

specific builds only required for running specific missions (mostly in squads) like aya farming or the recent plaguestar event

otherwise do whatever

[serene jasper]

Alright

[pale belfry]

we have mod config, you can see it on the top of modding section

mod config exist for that purpose

[daring orbit]

hey everyone, can anyone help me with a good harrow prime build for eidolon hunts? ill show my lanka build as well

[sweet herald]

what companion should i run w garuda?

apparently i have an un leveled huras kubrow so i was thinking that but idk

[mighty flare]

huras good

[sweet herald]

any other options?

js wanna widen the selection

[mighty flare]

other options not as good tbh

huras gives garuda lazy nuking

[charred gale]

huras is the best cause shes a caster

[granite ginkgo]

if u like extra priming, the predasite, theres one viral priming if u not use nourish in garuda

do note slash proc in garuda work with mecha set mod

another pet would be wyrm for status cleanse but garuda 3rd already provide that, unless u subsume 3rd skill with roar or xata etc

[worthy siren]

what can i subsume onto my dragon? im not using his 4th dont like it

[mellow nest]

Depends, do you want to optimize it?

And what do your ability percentages look like?

[worthy siren]

optimise?

[mellow nest]

Well do you want a popular option like gloom, nourish, etc or are you looking for smth funky

[worthy siren]

why gloom? i dont have nourish :c but i see why thats an option, (even though i dont like it)

so i guess then "smth funky"

[grave cloak]

gloom chroma is not real tf

just use either nourish or wrathful advance like a normal person

[mellow nest]

I just listed popular subsumes, no reason to go ballistic

[mellow nest]

You still havent answered the question, Im afraid I cant really help you then

Well you have actually lmao

[worthy siren]

i did

[mellow nest]

You did

Anything in particular that youre looking for?

Mobility, more dmg, etc

There isnt a ton of fun options tbf

[worthy siren]

either cc or damage i guess?

[mellow nest]

You could also just scroll through all the subsumes on the Helminth page in the wiki

[grave cloak]

to be fair popular doesn't always mean good

[mellow nest]

• Sentient Wraith - Wave of dmg with CC, dmg vulnerability
• Tharros Strike - Knockback CC, shield and armor strip, healing
• Terrify - CC (slow), armor strip
• Breach Surge - CC (blind + radiation proc), damage combo, chain effect

@worthy siren would be some

[worthy siren]

thanks

i think i'd go terrify (fits dragon)

[mellow nest]

Well, the correct choice is Elemental Ward ofc

You can also use smth that triggers Archon mods, like you can already do with Elemental Ward etc

Archon Continunity, Archon Stretch and Archon Flow in your case

[worthy siren]

where do i grind nekros again?

[mellow nest]

Lephantis on Deimos

Its the same as the Hemocyte, but way weaker

[worthy siren]

oh ok thanks

[lost hull]

Is there any actual good subsume for archon flow? It needs a kill with a cold damage ability

[worthy siren]

well chroma can change his abilities elements

[lost hull]

Yea but it acts primarily as an on hit slap of cold back at the attacker

[mellow nest]

Ice Wave, Thermal Sunder, Vial Rush are the only ones I think.
I also dont think that Elemental Ward reflects cold damage back, I think it reflects whatever they shot at you

[worthy siren]

should i just buy nekros prime and then toss my base nekros in the helminth?

[worthy siren]

well the breath attack also changes elements and does good damage

[mellow nest]

You can, altough I dont think its worth it

I have used my Nekros Prime like once maybe

[worthy siren]

im trying to get all the primes anyways

[worthy siren]

i barely use my nekros aswell, mostly for cell farming

[mellow nest]

Then dont do it, get Khora instead

[lost hull]

Cold ward gets small damage multi and cold status chance, sunder is looking like the choice even if it's nerfed, the other two are more cc

[mellow nest]

Tbh I just wouldnt subsume smth specifically for Archon Flow. If youre not Frost, Chroma or Gauss then perhaps its just not worth it to run it. Instead Id subsume smth for Archon Stretch or Archon Continunity if I had to

You can actually just subsume Chromas Elemental Ward to use all of them, albeit only when changing energy colors

To be clear, you could only use one of them, unless you had other elements innately

[lost hull]

Outside of subsume I'd only advise stretch or vitality on chroma. Ward is honestly very stupid to look into what it's doing

The tox only hits if another tox isn't active and once every around seven seconds

Flow wants kills but Cold set only reacts

[mellow nest]

Yeah it isnt amazing really. The Archon Stretch with Electricity one is cool though, especially if you can somehow boost the damage with smth like Equinox or Protea with +100% strength

[lost hull]

Just getting a modern shield setup does great even

Side note, I forget which, but there is a sentinel that can proc stretch too

[mellow nest]

I think thats Diriga

[lost hull]

Diriga?

[mellow nest]

Yeah, its also used for melee influence

Really good, easy to get, lots of health iirc, no upgrade

It looks terrible tho, which is its only weakness

[lost hull]

Much wierd tech

The hydroid deluxe skin for it is alright

Though kinda odd for what's supposed to be a support sniper

[mellow nest]

Lmao yeah

Idk bro

[lost hull]

Floating baby kraken going pew pew from 50m

[mellow nest]

I always thought its a Zeppelin/airship

The base skin

[lost hull]

Same

Had wrong distance. 70m*

[worthy siren]

khora? whats the bonus loot compared to nekros?

[mellow nest]

Idk man, but you can grab all the loot with the Augment Pilfering Strangledome

I think Nekros is 54%

[worthy siren]

yeah think he is

[mellow nest]

Khora seems to have 65%

But its only in the dome

Enemies also receive double damage

[grave cloak]

what do I pick

+cc +rs or +cc +rs

[earnest saddle]

decisions decisions /s

[mellow nest]

💀

[worthy siren]

i can pretty much buy 2 primes, ones khora and who else you think i should buy?

[mellow nest]

What do you have already?

Im also sure you can buy many more, Gauss, Grendel, Yareli, Protea, Lavos are all fairly up to dirt cheap

Lavos is like less than 20p on a good day

[worthy siren]

you just listed the ones i have lol

[mellow nest]

Rip

[worthy siren]

uh its easier to list what i dont have

[mellow nest]

Do it

[worthy siren]

atlas, ash, khora, excal (cant get him), frost, limbo, rhino, loki, nekros, nyx, vuaban and wukon

[mellow nest]

Wait, you cant get Excalibur, look at this registered loser

[worthy siren]

getting khora and one of those on the list

[mellow nest]

You already have everyone you need man, those are pretty specialized.

• Wukong is pretty good for speedrunning certain mission types, but volt is almost always better if you need anything but the obj.
• Frost is really good for defense stuff and events like the Thermia Fractures and has huge crit power with the Biting Frost augment.
• Nyx is pretty cool but really lacks in survivability imo. Shes got great crit power aswell but shes also really expensive (not vaulted tho, railjack relics).
• Ash is super cool, but tbh he doesnt work great for most content imo. Bad armor strip ability, low duration invis, extremely cool teleport, dysfunctional 4th (bladestorm). A subsume could make him more interesting but its a deluxe choice if anything.
• Limbo is a bit weird, since hes got bad interactions with many objectives and requires good coordination if playing with others. Its a very specialized pick.
• Loki can shine in some scenarios like Plague Star for skips, but tbh his kit is just a bit old and from a time when a lvl 150 bombard / heavy gunner in the void was your biggest issue.
• Atlas is pretty cool with the boulder boys, kinda niche and half his kit doesnt really work for certain content, but fun for sure.
• Dunno with Boben and his rework.
• Rhinos kit is also just old man, feels super stock standard and uninteresting, imo anyways.
• Nekros actually has some funny ways to play him with army nekros. However he just kinda lacks anything flashy with his abilities, which can make him boring to play.

Tldr: just get Excalibur Prime

[worthy siren]

well since i am collecting all the primes, imma have to get them all anyways. think i should get frost rn?

[mellow nest]

If you want to get all of them anyways then yeah sure. Hes round 90p rn, so like 60 - 70p in the trade chat. If thats worth it to you rn sure do it

You can also wait for prime resurgence. No idea when thats gonna happen though

It will push down prices a bit

[latent adder]

nyx is immortal tho, how can she lack in survivability??

shes probably the most immortal frame in the game

[worthy siren]

with the augment yeah

[earnest saddle]

revenant would also like to say hello

[latent adder]

with or without

shes actually more immortal than revenant

the augment just makes you mobile

you simply press 4 and nothing can kill you indefinitely except if violence removes it vs revenant who needs to press 2 again

and if you decide to end 4, you are immortal for another 6 seconds

[mellow nest]

Ah I didnt know shes got a new augment. Its also entirely possible that I got other things wrong, its only my opinion after all

[lethal bison]

should i get arcane blessing for a hp tank umbra build

[latent adder]

nah augment wasn't changed, its always been assimilate just makes her mobile. the thing that was changed is that she no longer drains energy when she takes damage

so 4 is now indefinite immortality

[worthy siren]

depends on current hp in the build, if you already have alot then arcane grace would be better

preferably both though

[mellow nest]

All good man, can happen

[lethal bison]

with triple umbral i got around 1k

[worthy siren]

you have adaptation on?

[lethal bison]

yes, with rolling guard

[worthy siren]

then grace

if you have space for another arcane add blessings for 1.2k hp

[lethal bison]

i use bellicose to get str on hp so i think i could only slap grace on

[velvet pulsar]

Tested it against violence.
Assimilate still remains active, violence just prevents u to cast any new abilities like psychic bolts

So yes, Nyx is better, even better because all robotic companions r invulnerable with her

For the past several EDA & ETA my braindead setup has been Assimilate Dispensery Nyx with a Moa having Verglas Prime, and Duplex Bond.
Which means 4 fully modded Verglas Prime active all the time, all Moa carrying it are invulnerable, and the main Moa who has it gets double dipped by Summoner's Wrath since my verglas is modded for blast.

[latent adder]

oh nice

so fully immortal lol

[velvet pulsar]

They get so powerful they start stealing my kills and it gets annoying

[deep grotto]

I guess that means i won’t subsume the Nyx i just built

[mellow nest]

Its one frame. Try her out, if you like her then dont subsum

You can also get her from railjack relics, she is permanently unvaulted, afaik

[sweet herald]

do yall ever notice urself doing less dmg on lower level enemies? im so confused. i usually do abt 500k dmg per hit against sp, and its usually consistent. against regular starchart tho it will either like do 500k or like in the double digits

anyone know why?

[velvet pulsar]

Context required
There's some handful stuff in game which scale damage by enemy lvl

[pale belfry]

for example, jat kittag augment which scaling with enemies hp

[velvet root]

Just found put heminth need you to farm normal warframes

But does the hemilth be put on primes?

[pale belfry]

currently helminth only take the base frame

[velvet root]

Lmao warframes wants to still balance normal and prime

Sigh normal frames are harder to farm than primes

[pale belfry]

well

this is warframe

the grind is core gameplay

[velvet root]

Bro

Agreed

[snow ice]

you could put base frames' abilities on prime frames

Though I wish primes can also be subsumed

[pale belfry]

that is subsume context

not use subsume skill

lmao

[snow ice]

Welp

[deep grotto]

Ngl i thought they could be subsumed, just that nobody would ever do that

[snow ice]

I would do that with wisp prime

[deep grotto]

Why lmao

[mellow nest]

Feeding fetish maybe

[fallen verge]

I decided to put corrosive on my sarpa with shattering impact thinking it would armor strip even faster. Is it actually interfering with shattering impact? I don't see the armor icon deplete fully

[pale belfry]

well, it wont full armor strip if you using corro without archon shard, corro shard

max corro stack by default is 10

you need 14 for fully armor strip

[fallen verge]

I thought shattering impact could full strip alone, permanently. I thought by putting corrosion even just getting 10 stacks would strip armor faster but now I can't full strip no matter what

[pale belfry]

it is override

corro override on shattering impact

[fallen verge]

Ahh okay so do you know if efficiency wise (like, assume 1 burst of sarpa can apply at least 5 stacks of corrosive), is it more efficient to keep corro or just do pure shattering impact? Also does heat have the same override issue

[pale belfry]

well, you could use barely shattering impact with attack speed mod

even heat still like that

no matter what, maxed you can deal is 50% armor reduce

[spare geyser]

Is this still optimal?

[kindred socket]

can someone give me some guide to mod voruna pls

[mighty flare]

👍

Looks fine enough

[grave cloak]

https://overframe.gg/build/410147/voruna/descent-of-fangs-ulfruns-endurance-ability-based-dps-nuke-voruna

[lunar gale]

does seismic bond work on dethcube ??

[mighty flare]

yes

you just need a channeled ability on your warframe

[lunar gale]

how does it even melee attack

[mighty flare]

do you have assault mode, coolant leak, or anything like that

[lunar gale]

ye

but i thought all sentinel weapons are considered ranged except helios

[mighty flare]

seismic bond isnt restricted to melee attacks

[lunar gale]

OH

this changes everything for me, ty

[spare geyser]

Any good Felarx builds?

[trim finch]

Is there a list/page/site for getting a general idea of what stats to look for with rivens for certain gear? I know Semlar used to be a good reference with the trade chat scanner, but that hasn't been operational for years now.

[timid glacier]

Is there any way I could share my "weapons inventory" so I could get some tips of each ones to invest my formas before farming more weapons?

[snow ice]

Take a screenshot of it

[timid glacier]

Well screenchots and paint montage it is lol

[mental ocean]

Quick question since im getting different answers online, does it still matter a lot what progenitor you get on kuva sobek for saryn ?

[earnest saddle]

you can choose which element it is with an item from a vendor in 1999, but as before, the higher the better

[mental ocean]

ah sweet, i thought it would only work on the coda weapons,. neat

[velvet pulsar]

What weapons do people use with energized munitions?

Felarx is one popular choice I remember

[queen terrace]

which is better? Magnus prime or AkMagnus prime

[analog stirrup]

anything with a high fire rate mostly

[topaz idol]

And low ammo max / high reload

[velvet pulsar]

Also thought about trying it with battery weapon like Bubonico alt fire to think what would happen if ammo doesn't drain for some seconds, will the battery restore while firing?

But after seeing Arcane Pistoleer + Dex Pixia, I think the answer is no.

[analog stirrup]

it does work with bubonico, max fire rate+pistoleer is still an old GPU melter :p

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah I know it works with primaries too.

What I don't know, is if that works with amps and archguns?

[analog stirrup]

iirc it does work with archguns. Doesn't affect amps tho, buffs don't transfer from frame to op sadly

the meta for eidos would be much different if that were the case

[velvet pulsar]

Then I guess amps only have madurai

Fortunately, universally primaries got 2 options for 100% ammo efficiency then (crux + madurai)

(and ofc pistoleer)

[velvet pulsar]

I've got a taste of that power alright

There was a relic cracking mission with one of the corrupted buffs giving 100% ammo efficiency, and that's when my gauss held Bubonico alt fire against void sabotage portal-defense.

My squadmates stood there for a while before commenting it in chat

[analog stirrup]

good thing it wasnt a Zarr or they would probably not get that chance :p

[velvet pulsar]

Is sporelacer secondary as menacing as zarr?

Coz I feel like they're similar in case of bomblets

[analog stirrup]

do be

think they had similar results in the stress tests I've made before

[topaz idol]

I like doing this with akarius and kuva ogris

With mirage

[velvet pulsar]

Pistoleer simulor mirage

[topaz idol]

Kuva ogris is hilarious because you can cover like 60% of the map in napalm

[crisp birch]

anyone know where i can look up good builds

can someone explain why melee influence is like the only melee builds i see

[astral tinsel]

it's just strong

it spreads a portion of your DPS in a pretty large area

with no target limit or falloff

[crisp birch]

but how does it work ?

i know it procs of electricity i think?

[earnest saddle]

when a melee weapon procs electricity, all elemental effects are spread within the radius

so very good on gas/blast weapons

[midnight horizon]

Is cat shields still bugged where any shield point still amounts to 1.33s gate

[astral tinsel]

to be exact, proccing electric gives you a buff that makes all new elemental status effects spread to nearby enemies

[midnight horizon]

Hello fello car

[astral tinsel]

helo

[midnight horizon]

You know about this?

[astral tinsel]

it deals instant damage too, so even non-damaging status effects deal damage when spread

[astral tinsel]

idk, haven't checked lately

[midnight horizon]

Welp thanks anyway

[crisp birch]

quick question how does cedo work?

like how does it proc cold when my build doesnt hve any

except in magnetic

bc i saw an online build use primary frostbite

[earnest saddle]

cedo alt fire:

Alternate Fire launches a glaive that explodes in a 6 meter radius on impact with a surface or enemy and bounces up to 11 times.

Initial hit and explosion apply status separately.
    Initial hit has the listed status chance of 50%.
    Explosion always applies two separate procs, these are guaranteed and not affected by mods.
        First proc is based off of modded damage types.
        Second proc is randomized from the following;  Toxin,  Cold,  Electricity, or  Heat.

[deep grotto]

Do we have a list of weapons that are multiplicative with CO and G. Aptitude?

[midnight horizon]

Yea someone put up a spreadsheet for that but idk where to find it

I just remember the most important ones like bubonico and plasmor

[hybrid hamlet]

What Warframe can I use for stealth build in early game?

[midnight horizon]

Wukong

[charred gale]

Its on the wiki, search up condition overload(mechanic)

[midnight horizon]

As much as I hate him he's useful for that

[granite garden]

i cant find a single build where this thing uses CC, why is it a "best attribute" then ?

[charred gale]

For activating tenacious bond

Its the only way u can with verglas

[granite garden]

oh yeah, this sounds handy, will see if i like it 👀

[charred gale]

Its pretty much just free crit dmg

[granite garden]

The multi is for the companion weapon or frame guns?

[charred gale]

Frame guns

Its just adding 1.2 to the crit damage

[granite garden]

Hmm, free damage

[granite garden]

Thx btw

🫡

[rare pebble]

anyone got a cedo prime build ?

[charred gale]

Np

[charred schooner]

Re: Zephyr. Helminth Turbulence away?
Did it anyway, the augment doesn't seem worth it for the speed

[mighty flare]

i wouldnt do that

[charred schooner]

Zephyr + Akarius + Slip Shot works on paper but in reality Zephyr is kind of clumsy, especially when compared to, like, Jade.

[frozen grail]

Question for the dmg calculation enthusiasts, for a gass based weapon (in my case the coda pathocyst) which would net me more dmg/which is better: roar on rhino, eclipse on mirage, or vex armor on chroma?
Ik roar is the go to for dots but since gas scales so hard with the inital dmg I was unsure if another buff would be better

For context as well I run a heavy detonation spam build with it, electric projen with melee influence as of now

[spare geyser]

Does this look valid?

[novel bear]

How much strength are you running on rhino and mirage?
Eclipse double dips on glaives, and roar triple dips on influence

[frozen grail]

Id be running a str based build on both to get the most out of their dmg buffs idk exact values, assume both are juiced

[novel bear]

Eclipse is probably better no matter what now that I think of it

Yeah, you would need unrealistic amounts of strength for roar to be better

[frozen grail]

For both single target and groups? I woildve figured roar would take it for groups of like 10+?

[pure reef]

I think due to the nature of Gas as a DOT status effect (not scaling off heat & toxin mods) Roar is gonna be better.

[novel bear]

Why would it scale with groups? And how is gas being a physical status relevant?

Both roar and eclipse are simple multipliers

One is multiplying more than the other

[frozen grail]

They apply at diffrent times in the dmg calculation to diffrent things

[pure reef]

Roar boosts the damage of the hit and the damage of the status. Eclipse is just a bigger bonus on the initial hit.

I think if you plan on killing targets with status damage, Roar mogs every time.

[novel bear]

Eclipse applies twice, because glaive

Roar applies three times, because influence

And you need high strength for roar on rhino to be better than eclipse on mirage, because of how much higher eclipse’s initial value is

[frozen grail]

Would eclipses dmg buff in the hit scale the dmg of the gas clouds dmg as well?

[novel bear]

It should

[pure reef]

Yeah it will just in a different way

Eclipse boosts weapon damage, so the initial hit will be larger and thus the gas cloud will hurt.

Roar is all outgoing damage, so it improves the initial hit the same way Eclipse does, but it also boosts the tick damage. That's the double dipping.

My rule of thumb has always been to ask myself; Am I killing with Status Damage?

If yeah, then probably Roar. If nah, then Eclipse

[novel bear]

If you’re not using a glaive or influence, roar and eclipse will have equal effect on status damage at 400 strength
Below that, eclipse is better, above that, roar
With an influence glaive, you need around 2500 strength for roar to be better

[frozen grail]

Wouldn't roar be better with influence?

[novel bear]

On a non-glaive? Yes

[frozen grail]

What makes it diffrent on a glave, specifically coda pathocyst in my case? (Im running heavy detonation spam if that matters)

[novel bear]

Eclipse applies twice to glaive explosions

[pure reef]

Both are gonna kill everything honestly. The real question you should be asking yourself is what the vibes demand. Is your frame gonna scream or go 🫳✨

[novel bear]

Eclipse’s multiplier is (1+2x)^2
Roar is (1+.5x)^3

[frozen grail]

Interesting hm alright ill have to take this into consideration fs, thank u both i really appreciate it!!

[pure reef]

That's why you can't put nourish on certain frames. You look like a moron if you're stomping the ground and Farting as Yareli or whatever

[novel bear]

*That’s why you have to put nourish on certain frames. You look like a moron if you’re not stomping the ground and farting as Yareli

[mighty flare]

Gas scaled with grouping cuz every enemy hit will have their own cloud that overlaps

[novel bear]

That’s not important to roar vs eclipse though

[mighty flare]

You asked how it scales

[novel bear]

I asked how roar scales with grouping

[mighty flare]

Mhm I see I misunderstood

[mighty flare]

Also vex armor is temu eclipse atp, in current wf chroma always loses to mirage

And for rhino roar versus mirage eclipse it depends on the ttk

The longer it takes to kill the more gas dot contributes to damage, if you 1 tap then run mirage

[frozen grail]

interesting, i mean vex armor offers alot more than dmg so i suppose thats the trade off for the lower dmg bonus

i usually 1 tap most things with coda pathocyst specifically that things a monster lmao

ill keep that in mind tho thank u!

i think the only reasonable answer at this point is to subsume roar on mirrage, bam problem solved

[mighty flare]

Can’t do that

Frames can’t run dual buffing subsumes like roar + eclipse

[frozen grail]

i was 100% joking when i said that but i did not know that lmao glad i didnt

[mighty flare]

yeah bottomline, mirage eclipse is best for the majority of scenarios for glaives
just run her

[frozen grail]

got a mirrage build u could recommend by chance? this is what im rocking with now (i need to swap out flow for primed flow) and its pretty alright though i feel as though i should get my str higher

[novel bear]

Hall of mirrors can’t detonate glaives iirc, so you can probably swap out malevolence for transient fortitude

Or intensify if you want to keep duration

[mighty flare]

mirage doesnt need flow cuz you're on high duration
clones cant detonate so drop HoM
commit to lazy gate with vigilante vigor and arcane aegis

subsumes gots lots of options but i just run omamori cuz easiest

would also use mobilize instead of power drift

[frozen grail]

i do love my duration, would u say total eclipse is still worth? i mainly used it here to buff the clones over more so

[frozen grail]

would u say equilibrium is still the play? and by lazy gate are you saying i should go for fast deflection with vigilant vigor and arcane aegis on top?

[mighty flare]

dont need it either really, and yeah

if you like the qol sure keep it though

[frozen grail]

maybe ill try a few mission without it and see if its an issue, ive grown so attached to equilibrium and flow that i lowkey feel bad taking them off sometimes lmao

do u think total eclipse is still worth keeping on? idk if it makes a significant enough difference for the clones or not

[mighty flare]

it has less value cuz ur heavy detonating, yeah you can drop it

[frozen grail]

alright imma give it a shot thank you!! yall are legends

[grave cloak]

I will avoid putting prime chilling grasp and chilling reload in the same build

also you are already forming magnetic with prime charge shell and prime chilling grasp so idk what magnetic strafe is doing there, toss it out nvm I didn't see contagious spread

[quasi flower]

anyone got a good dual ichor build?

[jade horizon]

Whats the best element to use for a pax seeker kitgun? I was thinking maybe blast for better crowd clear? Planning on making a rattle guts but not sure if I want a primary or secondary yet

[potent marten]

Depends on the head you use

For rattleguts I think blast would be the best

But if for example you wanna use tombfinger I think maybe gas can do a better job because it has lingering clouds

And it has a lower fire rate

So blast isn't as viable for it

[jade horizon]

also assuming i went either tremor splat or haymaker splat depending should i use the 60/60s or the 90s/primed mods

[potent marten]

I'd say for blast build go for balanced crit and status

[jade horizon]

so dont go tremor/haymaker?

[potent marten]

You want to proc more blast and do it more often so balanced approach should be better I guess

The crit difference isn't as big of a deal

You can get orange crit even without having the highest base crit stat

And if you put on galv scope you can get some juicy numbers

[jade horizon]

or wait is it the loader that affects crit vs status? i havent made a kitgun in a long time

[jade horizon]

i was planning to run acuity

[potent marten]

Yeah I don't really remember either

[jade horizon]

yeah its the loader

[fiery yarrow]

any khora and whipclaw builds for specifically vodyanoi?

[jade horizon]

not the grip

[mighty flare]

gas and electric can trigger seeker again with their dots
electric has higher potential on primaries

[jade horizon]

can blast not?

[potent marten]

Wait electric does that as well?

[mighty flare]

blast dot targets bodies not heads like gas/electric

[potent marten]

Unless you put xata

[jade horizon]

interesting

so elec if i make a primary, gas if i make a secondary?

[mighty flare]

secondaries get primed electric mod

[calm lodge]

how can I build my nekros so it isint built like a twig

[jade horizon]

so elec either way

[potent marten]

Oh boy do I have a build for you!
What do you want your nekros to do?

(you're talking to a certified nekros main here btw)

[calm lodge]

uhhhh i want it to summon lots of dudes

[potent marten]

Loooots of dudes or the usual amount?

Genuine question

Cuz these are two different builds

[calm lodge]

I mean like

[jade horizon]

i was leaning toward primary though because i doubt any kitgun i could make would even begin to compete with any of the better secondaries whereas with primaries i can kinda just mess around and not lose much

[calm lodge]

mainly I want survivability

and farming actually

[potent marten]

Oh so that's easy

Nekros is the 5th beta health tank in the game

[calm lodge]

really

[potent marten]

For farming you just need your 3rd

[calm lodge]

mine dies in 1 min

[potent marten]

And ripkas amalgam mod

[potent marten]

Show me the build and I'll fix it

[calm lodge]

how do I get that Ima noob

[potent marten]

The ropalolyst

[calm lodge]

Rn I only have like the basics

[potent marten]

Do you have steel path unlocked?

[calm lodge]

No im mr6

[potent marten]

Oh...

[calm lodge]

💔💔

[potent marten]

So arbitrations? Do you have that unlock?

[calm lodge]

what’s that

[potent marten]

And what about the helminth?

[calm lodge]

That’s mr8

[potent marten]

A game mode you unlock after you beat Neptune junction iirc

[calm lodge]

ok I beat that

[potent marten]

So you should have arbitrations

Youll have to farm it and get the mod adaptation

Then go to simaris in any relay and do his quests till you have enough standing to buy health conversion

And then slap shield of shadows on your nekros

And dump strength into the build

[calm lodge]

hold on im trying to trade my riven

[potent marten]

And there you have it, 90% Dr from augment, 90% Dr from adaptation, almost 90%dr from armor via health conversion and once you get the helminth you'll also have another 75% Dr from eclipse/null star (I prefer null star)

[mighty flare]

doesnt work

[potent marten]

And you can spawn ancient healers and guardian eximus using your 4th and that'll give you extra 90%+45% dr

[mighty flare]

which kitgun you using

[potent marten]

Sad :(

[jade horizon]

i think probably a primary rattleguts

[calm lodge]

ok thanks dude

[potent marten]

So to sum everything up you get 90+90+90+75+90+45

[jade horizon]

i dont expect it to be super great just something i want to try messing around with and i need the mastery anyway

[potent marten]

Meaning 1mill dmg will deal less than 30 dmg

And on top of that you can also use some other shenanigans to reduce incoming dmg even further

That's why nekros is one of the best health tanks in the game

[calm lodge]

what do you mean by dumping strength

[potent marten]

Just put a lot of strength

[calm lodge]

how

[potent marten]

Mods like blind rage and transient fortitude

[calm lodge]

ohhhh

are those available to me

I’ve never had any of those

[potent marten]

Yeah, you find them in orokin derelicts on Deimos

[calm lodge]

what’s that

[potent marten]

If you dont know what that is I recommend watching YouTube guides

[calm lodge]

yeah thanks for helping me though

[mighty flare]

tremor still good, but you could try macro thymoid for better hybrid gun
would need primary crux

[calm lodge]

Appreciate it🙏

[potent marten]

But basically these are special doors you find in deimos missions and you need special keys to unlock them

[calm lodge]

im honestly trying to get caliban prime somehow is that worth my time

[potent marten]

Behind you can find a random mod

[calm lodge]

Dragon keys and all that

I have a bunch I don’t know what they do

[potent marten]

Those mods are the most important things I'm the game if you ask me

[potent marten]

Yeah that

[calm lodge]

ohhhh

okay thanks

[potent marten]

Yeah totally, he's insane

[calm lodge]

should I trade for him or just farm

[potent marten]

Farm for him now

[calm lodge]

because I have a full burston prime set I can’t craft

should I trade it

[potent marten]

It won't sell for a lot but you can try

And before selling or buying anything, check Warframe market

[calm lodge]

I thought it was the best gun in the game with its incarnon

[potent marten]

People will try to scam you

[calm lodge]

yeah i do that often

[potent marten]

It is, but it's also super common

[calm lodge]

im trying to get hate

[potent marten]

Good luck

[calm lodge]

because my broken war isint doing enough damage

[potent marten]

People still don't have it after years of gameplay

[potent marten]

?
Show me the build

[calm lodge]

so far I have the stalker secondary and another broken war blueprint

[potent marten]

Broken war is actually really strong

[calm lodge]

yeah but I don’t have those crit mods unlocked

I’m doing whispers in the wall and it won’t let me do necralisk bounties

for some odd reason

[potent marten]

So finish the quest

And then do the bounties

[calm lodge]

right

[potent marten]

But you can also get blood rush from lua spy

Idk about weeping wounds tho

[calm lodge]

ok thanks for letting me know

ima just check the wiki

[potent marten]

Blood rush is the crit mod that needs combo count

[calm lodge]

yeah

I think right now I have pressure point, true steel and the mod that has more damage and less weapon speed as well as fury

[potent marten]

More dmg and less speed? I wouldn't recommend using it

[calm lodge]

it’s like

100% more damage and 20% less speed

is it worth it

[potent marten]

Nah not really

[near vortex]

swap the 3rd one to Organ Shatter or an element

[potent marten]

You have pressure point and you don't wanna double dip in base dmg

[calm lodge]

oh yeah I also have Organ shatter

[potent marten]

That's diminishing returns

[near vortex]

put an element

[potent marten]

Put elements instead

[calm lodge]

so I should remove it

what’s the best one for broken war

[potent marten]

Yeah, use only pressure point

[calm lodge]

viral?

[potent marten]

Condition overload but I guess you don't have it

[near vortex]

Any tbh
Heat and tox are good for damage

[potent marten]

Yeah, mod viral and slash

[calm lodge]

I have a decent build for my new war bow

[potent marten]

Good ol outdated build that still shreds

[calm lodge]

I forgot what it was called

[potent marten]

You mean nataruk?

[calm lodge]

yes

[near vortex]

tox has the benefit of oneshotting corpus units through their shields

[forest jetty]

Viral = Toxin + Cold.

[potent marten]

It's literally one of the best bows in the game and one of the best weapons in general

[calm lodge]

I do like 50k damage which for me is a good amount for my level i think

[near vortex]

can you SS the build

[calm lodge]

I can’t my parents are using the tv

[potent marten]

With the right build you hit millions with nataruk

[calm lodge]

really

[potent marten]

Yeah

[calm lodge]

I think I just don’t have access to good enough mods yet

[near vortex]

you can hit millions with most bows tbh

[calm lodge]

because I don’t have steel path

[near vortex]

my daikyu Prime is missing a couple mods and it does like 6 mil per headshot

[calm lodge]

wow

[potent marten]

Tell them nicely: "mama, daddy, I need the TV cuz strangers on the internet told me to take a picture of me playing a video game"

[calm lodge]

I tried and they won’t let me🫩

[near vortex]

granted it does like 6k if you don't headshot, that's acuity for ya

[calm lodge]

how do I get incarnon for my burston prime

or incarnon for soma

[near vortex]

wait for it to be in rotation and have Steel Path unlocked

[tardy lily]

Steel path circuit and wait till it's in rotation

[potent marten]

So I guess theres no other option...
You'll have to use the forbidden puppy eyes technique

[near vortex]

go unlock steel path, it'll take time but Incarnons are worth

[calm lodge]

also is it worth selling my rivens since I’m early game

like for plat

[potent marten]

Which rivens and what are the stats

[calm lodge]

they both veiled I have a rifle and a shotgun one

too lazy to unveil them

[near vortex]

Speaking of, I'm going to mess around with Onos a bit
Wrist launcher to railgun is a fun playstyle

[potent marten]

Open them, they may be worth a fortune

[calm lodge]

what’s the best outcome

[near vortex]

torid

[potent marten]

Onos go boom mayhaps?

[near vortex]

That's the plan
How terrible does Acuity sound

[calm lodge]

also how do I get torrid

[potent marten]

Oh wait you actually said onos...
I saw wrist railgun and thought Onos immediately

[near vortex]

clan dojo
Torid needs the Incarnon so get steal path

[calm lodge]

yeah

[near vortex]

Yessir

[potent marten]

Chem lab in the dojo, then wait for the incarnon rotation

[calm lodge]

I started a clan

how do I use the labs

after I build them

[potent marten]

Your own clan?

[calm lodge]

yeah I got bored

[potent marten]

Bruh that's a looooooooot of work

[calm lodge]

I regret it I wasted 2 formas

[near vortex]

I love both Sanctum Incarnons
Just got Ruvox and have been messing with it, once I farm Nyx Prime I'm planning on using to to juice my Mind Control dummy like crazy

[potent marten]

Ruvox are funny but not the best melee in the game

Big hands go brrrrr

[near vortex]

I know
Gotta run Influence, but it's a Slam weapon and it looks cool as heck

[calm lodge]

I want to be part of the underground fish market

is it worth

[potent marten]

Don't, for your own good

[calm lodge]

I want a big norg

[potent marten]

I've once traded a single Nord for 50 plat and I still think the player I sold it to is totally out of their mind

[calm lodge]

what did they say

[near vortex]

so you want Fibbonachi

[potent marten]

Fish one, I had more than 20 big norgs

[calm lodge]

can’t you craft norgs

[potent marten]

Nothing, it's a black market. You don't say a thing, just trade and forget

[calm lodge]

is there a discord

[potent marten]

No, you fish norgs

[potent marten]

Not that I know of

[near vortex]

fish market discord sounds really funny

[calm lodge]

I saw a screenshot of someone crafting a norg

[potent marten]

But every once in a while you see someone in the trade chat asking for fish

[near vortex]

counterfeit norg

[calm lodge]

isint lore accurate rhino the strongest warframe

[wanton widget]

So I have a build for the Twin Grakata that dumps the mag in less than 1 second. It has me giggling and it actually hits hard too!

[potent marten]

I think we kinda using the wrong chat at this point
It's build discussion not general chat

[near vortex]

lore accurate? Limbo lore accurate is kinda funny

[calm lodge]

isint he a black hole

[near vortex]

Limbo mathed so hard he stopped existing

[potent marten]

Goddamn that's crazy

[near vortex]

Triumbral wisp

[calm lodge]

how do I transfer my plat from one acc to the other

[near vortex]

Trade, probably

[calm lodge]

they are both on ps5

and on the same console

[potent marten]

Thought about changing the arcane to cascadia flare for more base dmg?

[near vortex]

I should theorycraft a Wisp build that maximizes the mote snapshot

[near vortex]

Yeah, for sure

Are you doing any Viral priming with that grakata?

[potent marten]

I'm sure they use a primer

[near vortex]

Like a vulphaphyla or something

[wanton widget]

I need to level up Flare first. So far this absolutely cleans house. Economy for the weapon is actually good one you have ammo mutation.

[potent marten]

A player at that lvl will use a primer either way

[potent marten]

I'd recommend maxing out flare fast cuz 480% base dmg is a lot

[near vortex]

You have the funniest opportunity to subsume Energized Munitions over 4

[wanton widget]

Looking it up lol

[potent marten]

How about you try this build with cyte?

[near vortex]

Basically
For every 4 bullets you fire, you consume one ammo

Or something like that

[mighty flare]

ever heard of pistoleer? or energized munitions

[potent marten]

Probably pistoleer is better here cuz you probably want the abilities

[wanton widget]

Okay... I NEED TO TRY THIS!

[near vortex]

Nah, wisp four is ass, especially when you're platforming

[potent marten]

Actually, you can remove the 4th ability

[wanton widget]

I will look at Pistoleer as well

[potent marten]

Yeah but with it's new augment its useful

[near vortex]

Are they running the augment

[potent marten]

But I don't see the augment here so it can definitely go away

[mighty flare]

not really

its still the weak link

even less useful on platforming builds

[wanton widget]

Wisps 4th is weak. Like after a certain point, it doesn't do enough and all my effort goes into motes and Surge. Energize Mutitions sounds way more fun!

[potent marten]

But please try it with cyte

[wanton widget]

Will try it out lol

[potent marten]

Energized munitions cyte is just something on another lvl

[wanton widget]

I tested out the Energized munitions... it extends the magazine out to 4-ish seconds lol. That is so goofy but damn is this a bizarrely powerful configuration!

And goes hog wild when breach surge is active!

[white pebble]

anyone got a good Caliban Prime and Xaua prime built that can do steel path with easys Dm me?

[slow vortex]

made these 2 builds for hunting Eidolons. For the amp, I built a starter one, 2-2-3. But later on, I’ll get a 4-5-7. For now, is this setup good? Also, I need to farm focus schools, but I don’t know how. I put on lenses, but somehow it feels like I’m getting too little.

[mighty flare]

for volt
drop vigor, vitality, streamline, augur message, and intensify
use umbral variant for vitality and intensify, use narrow minded, use vigorous swap

for rubico
drop rifle Elementalist, hellfire, stormbringer
use primed cyro rounds and radiated reload

[mighty flare]

best tenno class for eidolons is madurai, zenurik lags incomparison

[sweet herald]

Why do so many ppl put vengeful swap on Garuda if she is a caster?

[mighty flare]

it applies to her abilities

[severe spear]

which?

[grave cloak]

go right for melee doughty shenanigans

[slow vortex]

I’d like to use Umbral mods, but they take up too much space and I don’t have an Umbra Forma

[mighty flare]

use 1 at least

you can drop a couple mods anyway

[slow vortex]

“Streamline seems more logical.” Umbral

[mighty flare]

what?

[velvet pulsar]

Umbral Streamline

[stable glen]

If I'm using a gotva with heat modded on it then use ember's augment to give it heat does it double the ticks in which it causes heat to cause the red crits or do they just combine into a single burn proc?

[latent adder]

1 single proc

[stable glen]

Also does each tick of fire cause a chance at red crits? I saw a post but idk if it was true.

[brisk blade]

Anyone have a useful gameplay loop for a new Sevagoth prime player?

[mental holly]

no subsume then just cast abilities in the order 2,1,2 rinse and repeat

[worthy siren]

is it worth putting firestorm on it?

[pale belfry]

status effect is stacking

DOT is procs 1 time each

[pale belfry]

if you want crowd controll, general run, yes

[brisk blade]

Ok that’s what I’ve been doing pretty much. Thanks for replying 🙂

[slate hedge]

What's a good build for Lavos Prime? Any recommendations ?

[granite ginkgo]

suggest u look on ninjase build in overframe

[abstract cargo]

is my Gauss build okay?

[mellow nest]

You could forma and use Brief Respite in the aura slot, if you wanted 3x the amount of shields restored

As shield gate is proportional to the maximum amount of shield restored before it breaks. Meaning that if you expend energy, you also gain shield that can then be destroyed for a shield gate

[pale belfry]

low effiency but llow energy regen is quite clunky

except you are not gonna spam 3rd

[abstract cargo]

That is indeed one of my issues

[pale belfry]

use equilirium over some augur mods

and use brief aura mod over energy siphon

you could use arcane ice storm

[abstract cargo]

Thanks

[mellow nest]

You can technically also use Archon Flow, but since youve already invested into Primed Flow, its inefficient to also lvl that one up for how little it does for you

[abstract cargo]

I've had it before even Archon Flow existed lmao

[mellow nest]

Yee dunno why the Archon Mods are just the Primed ones but better

Its an endo sink

[pale belfry]

umbra quest is little back behind archon

well, new one should be stronger or equal instead of weaker

[mellow nest]

Or just different, it worked with Archon Intensify so why not with Flow and Continunity

[pale belfry]

Archon Con could boost a little amount corro stack

considering its a dmg buff mods

archon flow more like a QOL mods

[mellow nest]

Both are 1 : 1 copies of the Primed versions but with extra abilities. They also arguably cost less

[mental holly]

remove blind rage, replace with equilibrium

[gaunt wasp]

I just realized one of my most used pistols(Torxica) has free ice procs

Looks like Kullervo might get Ice storm

[grave cloak]

where archon vitality

[novel bear]

Archon flow’s extra ability is essentially useless, and the extra capacity means you may need another forma

[mellow nest]

True that, you save 1 capacity with Primed Flow over Archon Flow.
Aside that, I dont really see how it being useless devalues the statement

[hollow nymph]

What can I improve here

[grave cloak]

your resolution

but pls don't put fleeting expertise and volatile recompense together

actually that whole build is cursed tbh

[grave cloak]

toss out sprint boost and use a melee aura that actually helps kullervo(steel charge/ready steel)

drop fleeting expertise and umbral intensify and archon continuity
replace them with blind rage primed continuity and primed flow
move cunning drift to the exilus slot
slot in intensify, transient fortitude, and constitution
fully upgrade your molt augmented
drop arcane truculence for arcane energize

[hollow nymph]

Awesome

[hollow nymph]

I put sprint boost cause it was the only matching mod for that slot

[grave cloak]

with the volatile recompense augment his 2 becomes duration based so you don't want to dump too much duration via fleeting expertise definitely

[grave cloak]

forma over it surely
I mean we just had an event that gave out fully built forma like candy

[subtle cypress]

Is this a worthwhile riven?

For what stats should I go or choose a different weapon altogether?

[grave cloak]

hard to tell what stats you want because we don't even know the rest of the kitgun's parts

but safest option is usually cc/cd/some form of element

[subtle cypress]

Wanted to go primary Tremor / Splat

Thanks, I will look for that

[subtle cypress]

Literally the next one I got

[grave cloak]

it's an okay riven tbh

definitely slottable

[subtle cypress]

yeah, will take that for now

Thanks for the feedback

[queen terrace]

Rattleguts? what kind of guns are those?

[grave cloak]

kitguns

[north marlin]

what’s better for a khora whip claw build maxed out molt augmented or arcane fury

[analog stirrup]

nail gun type thing

[mighty flare]

arcane fury

[broken thorn]

ability strength for me, crit buff scales with it iirc

[quasi flower]

prime resurgence in 1h

[scarlet arch]

Hey, Tenno. Ive been having an issue with Oraxia's 4th not applying toxin to her weapons. Is this a bug or something that could be negating it?

[mighty flare]

which weapon

[scarlet arch]

The Sobek. 🙂

Well, in all honesty its any weapon she uses right now.

[mighty flare]

you should show a clip of it, could be a lot of things

[deep grotto]

Is this at least decent?

[wise prism]

is this worth it or should i reroll it?

[edgy atlas]

how should i build the scyotid if im only using it for grouping enemys

[prisma canopy]

Is strun a good weapon?

[prisma canopy]

Lots of ms for more grouping and gas for extra status

[crisp rampart]

Hell yeah

[prisma canopy]

Whats the usual Stats to get for the weapon

I just got it -100 ms for the unrolled😂😂😂

[crisp rampart]

Cc,cd,base dmg i guess. And also ms

[crisp rampart]

Oh no😭

You do need ms😅

[prisma canopy]

Oh so its the usual, GOT IT thanks!!

[prisma canopy]

Yeah time to reroll :3

[deep grotto]

Okay, i can ask this here now that the server's calmed down
what's the best component combination for a Vermisplicer?

primary of course

[crisp rampart]

Goodluck 😉

[lunar gale]

what we building on oberon now

[mighty flare]

Might change but likely similar to now: enough strength for full strip and decent range

[analog stirrup]

if going full crit

if hibrid build

[deep grotto]

oki

[mighty flare]

what

use tremor

hybrid uses macro thymoid

[deep grotto]

ngl there's always a lot of variation on what grip to yse

[mighty flare]

variation yes but if you want something specific, there are better and worst

[analog stirrup]

from using both, I prefer steadyslam, the difference in DPS is negligible

and the extended range does help with vermi

if it was for sporelacer, ye, tremor would be better

[mighty flare]

we have sinister reach now it doesnt matter, tremor is better for vermisplicer

[analog stirrup]

have you tested it?

[mighty flare]

yes?

[analog stirrup]

[mighty flare]

?

the issue of beam length would be more relevant if we didnt have access to sinister reach
but we do

what is the issue then

[velvet pulsar]

Is that enough?

[tardy lily]

Anyone know the best arc wing gun ?

[mighty flare]

Yes?

[mighty flare]

Mausolon is enough

And best for what

[tardy lily]

For profit taker mainly

I wanna start looking into that build

[mellow nest]

Grofit Taker

[velvet pulsar]

Grofit Maker is what I call

[velvet pulsar]

Corvas / Velocitus

[velvet pulsar]

https://youtu.be/1fkPFF48y3A?si=pkzLok_kK-UxqeFc

[mighty flare]

Mausolon still good, but Corvas and Velocitus

[velvet pulsar]

Also Corvas has a prime, just an FYI

[mighty flare]

Knowers

[velvet pulsar]

I'm starting to hate that term

Just because of one youtuber

[mellow nest]

Is it A Game Zone! ?

[velvet pulsar]

That's me

And yes

[mellow nest]

Id never have guessed with that profile pic man, could have been anyone

[velvet pulsar]

I still have to find anyone else over the internet who uses GTA Vice City final mission profile pic

[mellow nest]

Yeee

Did you see the remake of the original GTAs that mobile game company made? Lmao

Graphics worse than 20 years ago

[velvet pulsar]

BTW true answer is warframeKnowers

[mellow nest]

And the character models..

[karmic beacon]

https://overframe.gg/build/240225/valkyr-prime/rip-and-tear-valkyr-general-use-hysteria-dps-grouping/

Which weapons would be good alongside this build?

[mighty flare]

her exalted talons lol

[velvet pulsar]

Rauta for primary for sure

[karmic beacon]

👁️_👁️

[astral tinsel]

yeah but you don't want that one iirc

[velvet pulsar]

The bug difference still exists?

I don't see much difference anymore
I still one-shot with prime

[astral tinsel]

isn't it a completely different weapon in atmospheric?

[velvet pulsar]

Hell it'll be even less bothersome in a matter of days when archguns will get 2 arcane slots

Then this whole argument will be pointless
The prime will one-shot limbs without a doubt

[fathom sky]

The problem is that the hitreg for it being a big, wide projectile makes it clip the invulnerable parts, not that it doesn't do damage.

[velvet pulsar]

Oh that's the issue

By any chance of bugframe, does that issue discontinue if using necramech?

Coz I've been barely having any problem when using that

[fathom sky]

No, it's just an issue with the gun in general.

And a small chance of this happening is still worse than no chance of it happening which is why it was never suggested in PT guides and the such

[velvet pulsar]

I guess because I move in front of each limb to shoot rather than to shoot from sideways

[fathom sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvGG9xdmAwE

[velvet pulsar]

Yep I don't shoot like that

I thought that was normal

[fathom sky]

Yeah if you're speedruning you don't even bother with that you just shoot from one side.

But even with the ones right there it's... not fun

[velvet pulsar]

So this is speedrunner's thorn, not a huge issue for normal player

[fathom sky]

I'd just suggest Mausolon to a new player anyway because it's still really good for it

And you get it for free with your mech anyway

[earnest karma]

A good primary for MR6/7?

[velvet pulsar]

I never shot the joint part
Always shot the part where the legs bisected

[rare pebble]

anyone got a furis build ?

[charred gale]

Soma

[sterile fossil]

Ok so im working on dagath, and somehow my friend is dealing more damage than me with a build that has 50 ability strength less

[deep grotto]

what's the best use for a Tenet Glaxion? priming or damage?

i'm not sure why i'm asking like that since i never prime but yk

[smoky flare]

anyone know a decent starter amp to build at rank 3 with quills?

[unborn crag]

helloooo does anybody have a good lavos prime build? thanks! :D

[twin wing]

I'm sure there are better Lavos builds out there, but I honestly can't complain about this one's performance. Pumps out enough status effects to get me through pretty much anything I take him into.

He does what I want him to do, plays how I want him to play. And that's all I can ask for.

[novel bear]

I think the second green shard is a bit of a waste after jade shadows armor change

[twin wing]

Entirely likely. It's a matter of preference at this point. I've tried him without it and then with it and I just prefer how it performs with the second shard.

Placebo? Good chance. However, I'd rather a build that I like playing rather than a perfectly optimized one if it still gets the job I need it to do done.

[dense smelt]

I just got wisp prime today, should I focus on maxing out duration and strength? Or just one of the two?

[twin wing]

Depends on if you want to use her augment or not.

[burnt lava]

Oberon rework looks cool, but is universal fallout really that required? Feel like the 0.25 invul is really meh

[novel bear]

.25 seconds of invulnerability per health orb is amazing

And it’s for everyone in affinity range too

[twin wing]

You can likely get away with Equilibrium if you have energy concerns. Besides, the armour shenanigans he's going to be able to pull off mean he'll synergize nicely with Arcane Battery.

[novel bear]

Universal fallout is good for his passive

[burnt lava]

He already makes it easier to drop orbs

[novel bear]

And universal fallout will do it better

[burnt lava]

meh feel like the slot could be used better

[twin wing]

I don't think it'll be required for energy management, but just one of those stupid fun interactions like Qorvex's Miku Miku Beam.

[burnt lava]

Like since stuff is capped in the new rework, you only need around 200% str

[novel bear]

What are you using the arcane slot on besides fallout?

[burnt lava]

atm not really sure, hoping that theres new arcanes in the new release

[twin wing]

Personally I'll probably run Augmented/Battery? I'll have to play him and see.

[burnt lava]

Same

[mighty flare]

Probs not considering his 4 and synth deconstruct pets

Will def be memes setup tho

[burnt lava]

imho however reckoning should just drop uni orbs instead of health orbs

[twin wing]

That genuinely might be too strong on a caster frame.

[mighty flare]

Eh Lavos exists

[twin wing]

Lavos doesn't use Energy.

He also has a cooldown on Universal Orb pickups if undamaged.

[grave cloak]

dread it, run from it. revenant comes back all the same

[past anchor]

i'm reading this line in oberon rework:
"Players affected by Renewal are given the Iron Renewal buff, which increases Armor by 50% for the casting Oberon and 100% for Allies."
so this is addictive with mods? would it be worse than flat buff?

[novel bear]

During the devstream they said it was based on oberon’s armor, so it’s either multiplicative or it may as well be a flat buff

[granite ginkgo]

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1469411-dev-workshop-oberon-rework-devstream-189/

it scale with armor stat apparently

[past anchor]

well then the question seems to be if it's based on modded armor or base armor

[granite ginkgo]

might be similar to valkyr armor scaling

[past anchor]

guess we have to wait then

[granite ginkgo]

seems like oberon will be another warframe dont need shield gatin

[candid heron]

I'm building Volt Prime, do you have any builds you recommend?

[past anchor]

his new passive can take care of the "gating" though kinda minimum

[novel bear]

His new passive looks like invulnerability for everyone in affinity range

[granite ginkgo]

check ninjase ONLY build in overframe

compare his build and ur playstyle

[novel bear]

Volt can be a very good melee build

[granite ginkgo]

that nice consider the amount of mod - range - need to equip lol

[novel bear]

Shock trooper for influence, speed for attack speed, wrathful advance over his shield, and capacitance for survivability

[candid heron]

I just arrived at Steel Path, so I want to see some builds if it has one, so I can modify it with my playstyle, which is more melee.

[past anchor]

seems like it's based on modded armor

so at 200% it technically double your armor

[novel bear]

Does it scale with the reckoning armor bonus?

[wraith glade]

Would breach surge be good for gauss sunder nuke or would roar be better

[novel bear]

Roar

[granite ginkgo]

roar

[past anchor]

it only count arsenal value it seems

[granite ginkgo]

but which skill u be subsume that?

[wraith glade]

Takes so long to process the fire statuses to actually nuke

[wraith glade]

Kinetic plating, used shield regen thingy + aegis

[granite ginkgo]

u do know the 3rd skill nuke is based on 4th skill and passive %

[wraith glade]

Meaning(

[novel bear]

The status damage is what’s killing them in the nuke build

[wraith glade]

When I do like 3 fire sunders and 1 ice sunder, they don’t die and idk why

[granite ginkgo]

you need to activate 4th skill to overcap the passive, mean you need the bar above 30% so u can nuke with heat proc via 3rd

u basically spam 1st skill to reach that % value

[wraith glade]

Ohh, how does the bar work? Do I use 4 then charge with 1 or use 1 till bar max then use 4?

I forgot how gauss works

[novel bear]

Spamming the 1 doesn’t really charge it faster

You can just cast two cold thermal sunders to reach maximum charging speed

[granite ginkgo]

just stay the 30% n above, the rest just nuke with 3rd

[granite ginkgo]

true but just energy management usage than spam 3rd cold

[wraith glade]

Does using sunder make the bar drop?

[granite ginkgo]

from heat not cold

[novel bear]

If you get it maxed it won’t drop while redline is active

[wraith glade]

Any way to make it not drop or nah

[wraith glade]

Ohhh icic

[novel bear]

But it takes at least a third of redline duration to max it

[wraith glade]

Is gauss viable for sp?

[granite ginkgo]

very

[novel bear]

Yes

[quiet laurel]

heat drops, cold gives, 100% redline removes drop from heat

[wraith glade]

Without kinetic playing tho

[wraith glade]

Thankss

[quiet laurel]

gauss best build is subsuming off kinetic plating

[novel bear]

Arcane aegis is currently bugged to make gauss immortal

[wraith glade]

How much could this be worth(

[granite ginkgo]

i suggest u share ur current build, so u ill not remove any from subsume

[granite ginkgo]

120p

[wraith glade]

So if it gets uncaulted then gg?

[granite ginkgo]

worst price be 80p

[wraith glade]

Someone offered 400 for it 😭 but people said it was 800 so I didn’t accept

Some say it’s worth 20 some say it’s worth like 800 so idk man

[granite ginkgo]

shouldve take that offer, since buyer very scarce rn

[wraith glade]

Yeahhh

[granite ginkgo]

look if u got 3 digit offer take em

[wraith glade]

Should I build a maxed out phantasma(

[wraith glade]

Alr

[granite ginkgo]

worst case u max out ur riven slot than ur plat you own lmao

[wraith glade]

Ur so knowledgeable

[wraith glade]

Man I need play

[quiet laurel]

gauss aegis has been a thing for many many updates idk when or if it will ever get fixed tbh

[granite ginkgo]

didnt knew aegis bugged on him, never used on him since his release lol

[quiet laurel]

its being talked about left and right when gauss is mentioned how do you not know 😭

[shell tundra]

Can 5,110,752 Kuva save this riven? If so, what stats should I look out for? I want this riven to work on an Enervate build on the Larkspur Prime(Primary and Secondary arcanes can be equipped on Archguns at the same time come the Fall update)

[granite ginkgo]

let said i shut my discord the moment anyone mention gauss, and it gone by the time i online back lol

[mighty flare]

-cd, trash it brah

[quiet laurel]

-cd for 1k rolls is crazy

[granite ginkgo]

man my worst reroll be 255 but not like this stat

[shell tundra]

I have the Kuva to roll it for at least another thousand rolls

[quiet laurel]

like you probably made some really bad decisions when choosing rolls

[granite ginkgo]

just remember if it not incarnon, dont pick negative crit

[mighty flare]

larkspur only has 1.6x cd anyway, its a terrible roll for a low stat

[charred gale]

this is actually depressing

[quiet laurel]

depends on weapon

[shell tundra]

I want multishot and elemental and a negative that doesn’t kneecap my crit

[quiet laurel]

if you run enervate -cc isnt great but it isnt catastrophic

[mighty flare]

its -cd tho

[quiet laurel]

yeye

[mighty flare]

skull

[wraith glade]

How does gauss aegis work

[novel bear]

And larkspur doesn’t have good cd to start

[wraith glade]

It doesn’t make me immortal

[quiet laurel]

aegis procs once, you remove shield recharge delay cap

[shell tundra]

I have the Kuva to roll it at least another thousand times, surely I can get a +ms, +elemental, and a harmless negative, right?

[wraith glade]

If I stand still in steel path I still die tho

[wraith glade]

Dayum…

[quiet laurel]

you need fast deflection

[mighty flare]

i wholely believe you had a better roll and just didnt take it

[quiet laurel]

time to search the gif

[granite ginkgo]

skill issues

[wraith glade]

Yeah I use the +90 shield capacity and like smt shield recharge mod + aegis

[shell tundra]

Probably because I was too focused on multishot and elementals tbh

[quiet laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/150313159343865856/1321587681699958825/i-text.gif

[novel bear]

Extra shield capacity isn’t useful

[wraith glade]

I’m using rank 5

[wraith glade]

Ts so cute

Best subsume on gauss nuke?

[quiet laurel]

you need some battery and aegis needs to proc at least once

[mighty flare]

roar

[quiet laurel]

then you will infinitely recharge your shields

[wraith glade]

Gauss bar gives shield?

[mighty flare]

shield regen

[quiet laurel]

read his passive

[wraith glade]

So to play gauss just run run run redline full bar nuke nuke nuke

[wraith glade]

My game ain’t on rn

[quiet laurel]

he gets shield recharge based on battery level

[wraith glade]

Ohh

How much bar needed

[quiet laurel]

idk the exact values

[wraith glade]

What element to build phantasma? Shd i go for fire?

[quiet laurel]

but you can still die at 0%, very unlikely tho

[shell tundra]

I just want you to know, your message made my night, I’ll be up all night giggling about this

[quiet laurel]

like enemies would need to constantly hit you

[mighty flare]

electric

[wraith glade]

Why electric

[mighty flare]

primed mod

[quiet laurel]

and shards

elec dots type shi

[wraith glade]

Huh

Wym

[mighty flare]

better general use dot

[wraith glade]

I want my phanstasma to melt anything

[granite ginkgo]

damage over time, DoT

[wraith glade]

Who has the best phantasma on overframe? Can u send me a link to that build

[mighty flare]

anyone know whether pet bond mods apply to deployed archguns

[quiet laurel]

should since they are a universal loadout buff

[granite ginkgo]

fyi prime and vanilla build is entirely diff