builds-discussion

[worthy siren]

which waybounds hould i unlock?

i got 1 shard

wait nvm i got the wrong shard

[prisma canopy]

chat whats the combo for mag?

[woven berry]

Yo just wanted to make sure you saw what I said about Secondary Fortifier

Steal overguard from eximus units = not getting instakilled by a toxic eximus

[worthy siren]

how do people get insane speeds on Gauss's mach rush?

[woven berry]

Other abilities that increase movement speed make Mach Rush go insanely fast. Volt Speed and Wisp's haste mote as examples

Sprint Speed stat as well which you can mod in if you want to

[novel bear]

Void fissure ability buff and nidus can get you absurd power strength

Which is the answer you’re looking for

[woven berry]

Aye power strength also affects the speed of mach rush

for some reason, Redline doesn't scale with strength. I think it scales with range or duration

[woven berry]

Pretty sure it's range

[novel bear]

That’s nidus and fissure

[woven berry]

Dude holy shit 30k??

[worthy siren]

i got this, i just saw somebody with 30k metres a second speed on their mach rush. for some reason my game wont tell me how fast mine is rn but last i checked in the arsenal it said around 48? mretres a second

[woven berry]

YOU MUST HAVE SEEN THAT GUY LMFAOAOAOAO

My god, the shit people do in this game is crazy

Just the other day I watched a YouTube video where someone used Ivara's navigator to oneshot Alad V without moving their Warframe

What's the Warframe equivalent to 'resinless behaviour' (Genshin Impact)?

[worthy siren]

so molt is better than infested mobility?

[woven berry]

I tested that myself. Yes, Molt has a larger buff, however the buff falls off and expires fairly quickly

So you need to cast it more often than you'd think

I tested it because I wanted to make Volt as fast as I possibly could. I settled on Infested Mobility so I didn't have to keep recasting it and running out of energy

[worthy siren]

i got 245 duration withouth the effieciency arcane, so around 12ish duration?

now it shows, its actually 34

[worthy siren]

as soon as i put molt in redline started playing ingame

[gaunt minnow]

I’ve done it, a build for day and night form

[mellow nest]

Good work man

Bro putting that forma to use 🧩🧩 🧩 🧩

[agile vortex]

What is tenno kai and how does it work?

Does my Shadow not work while nuking because of claws not having the Discipline's Merit mod?
https://overframe.gg/build/717054/sevagoth-prime/gloom-reaper-sevagoth-sp-general-use-nuke-crit-buff-slow-shadow/
https://overframe.gg/build/718154/

Because also last time I tested the guide it said to pull enemies towards me when using shadow, then 3rd ability for more damage and when I m1/hevay ground slam it's just to low

[proud anchor]

Ground slam damage and radius is based on height now I believe

[agile vortex]

I mean the build works against normal enemies but with steel path enemies it just sucks

[proud anchor]

Weird, melee influence on its own should be nuking steel path enemies easily regardless of weapon

[proud anchor]

You're using the melee influence arcane, right?

[agile vortex]

Yes

of course

@proud anchor is Weeping Wounds a needed mod or can it be substituted with something else?

[trim finch]

Is it worth dedicating a mod slot to the augment for Stynax's javelin to make it actually pull enemies more than 10% of the time, or would I be better of subsuming a more consistent grouping tool like coil horizon?

[agile vortex]

if I get a few formas and max out all my mods won't it be better than the overframe one?

[novel bear]

Weeping wounds is a lot of status chance, there isn’t a substitute

[agile vortex]

what if I use weeping wounds + galv elementalist instead of the primed orokin smite or whtvr

[novel bear]

That works

[agile vortex]

Also wait if I understand this correctly nuking is basically applying a shit ton of Crit (red, orange)status to ur opponent?

[novel bear]

It’s a status damage build, yeah
The electric procs are doing the damage, and you can apply electric procs in an aoe by attacking a single enemy

Also, if you don’t have a tennokai mod equipped, you shouldn’t heavy attack, because it gets rid of combo for blood rush and weeping wounds

[agile vortex]

alright

[proud anchor]

I'd subsume since javelin is a bit janky

[proud anchor]

That mod is really important. More status chance means more electric procs and that is where your damage comes from. Grouping also helps with that too

[solar reef]

typically the go to subsume would be to just throw nourish over his 1 and spam 4

as that way his 3rd can out generate the energy used by his 4th

It has enough AOE to not need grouping

this is how people overguard gate with him

but in the end its just preference, if you dont want jav spam, just run a better CC ability and enjoy it

I would probably use airburst since, once again, big aoe of his 4th

[merry kernel]

what would be a good wisp prime build?

[wary gust]

What’s the best skill to subsume wrathful advice over on for baruuk

[novel bear]

Elude or lull

Personal preference as to which

[errant obsidian]

build good?

[mighty flare]

drop energize and precision int

[tawdry cargo]

i wanted to try something different for kullervo
for how i play it work really well i haven't gone down once
its still a wip

[agile vortex]

would this build work with melee influence instead of melee exposure? https://overframe.gg/build/69648/exalted-umbra-blade/exalted-umbra-blade-build-steel-path-ultimate-endgame-guaranteed-red-critical-hits/

[fathom sky]

You need to swap the elements so here ya go, read the guide
https://overframe.gg/build/390077/

[agile vortex]

?

[fathom sky]

wdym ?

You can't do Influence off Viral Heat

[agile vortex]

yeah but melee exposure is corrosive so that's viral, corrosive, heat right?

[fathom sky]

You said you wanted Influence though

None of those elements are Electric

[eternal prism]

hmmm big number

[solar reef]

yareli moment

[eternal prism]

yareli >

[distant flax]

are the dual clevers good for valkyr? Im mr6

[potent marten]

Pretty much any melee will be much stronger when Valkyr wields it

[distant flax]

Ik, but there are weapons having a good synergie with her and I wanna know weather this is one of them

[fathom sky]

That being said, basically every early melee sucks. Broken War and Xoris from quests are great and you should stick to those until you get your MR up

[distant flax]

Alright, thank you

[fathom sky]

Most Warframes do not have synergies with weapons so it's just a matter of if the weapon is good or not

[distant flax]

will do

[distant flax]

oh, I always tought... thank you

[mighty flare]

her exalted talons will probs be best melee you can get early

[distant flax]

true, they are insane rn

[mighty flare]

just run those and buff ur energy econ

[distant flax]

Imma try doing so, thank you

[mighty flare]

best early picks are continuity & streamline then equilibrium with synth deconstruct
equilibrium is found in deimos from lephantis
synth deconstruct is found in fortuna from bounties

[distant flax]

ah, thank you, thats great to know

i will try to get them as quickly as possible

[mighty flare]

synth deconstruct is a pet mod btw
one of her best pets is diriga, you can buy that from the market iirc

[distant flax]

great, I will take a look at it

rn im just in the quest the hex

[mighty flare]

finishing up the quests best things you can do yeah

[distant flax]

yeah, its really great

[solar reef]

billions must run viral slash on their melee as new players (with zero understanding of why)

[distant flax]

Why

[potent marten]

As a newbie you can put anything on your melee and it'll still kill everything

[solar reef]

more so mocking the old warframe experience where everyone would just tell you to run viral and slash on everything without ever explaining viral

[potent marten]

Yeah that was kinda dumb

[solar reef]

we would just run it because we were told it was good

[potent marten]

I remember being told as a newbie to run viral on my weapons

[distant flax]

fair enough

[solar reef]

which is fair because viral was and still is GOATed

[potent marten]

I was curious why so I went to good ol' YouTube

[quick quail]

Can some recommend what I can run for my last slot for my braton, this is for plague star context wise

[distant flax]

I guess it is kinda strong in the early game, but Id prefer corosion since I think it goes through amor, but im not sure at all

[potent marten]

Corrosive strips armor while viral makes the enemies take way more dmg

[distant flax]

I see

[solar reef]

viral is preferable until high endurance, usually

[distant flax]

was it poison to completely ignor armor?

[solar reef]

none of them completely ignore armor, Corrosive reduced armor percentage with each stack

heat ignores it by 50%

[fair knoll]

Is status damage now a stat we can get on rivens?

[distant flax]

ok, thank you

[solar reef]

as in like, melee elementalist status damage or actual status

if the former, then no

[thorny kite]

guys, I have Umbra Excal with full Umbra set,adaptation , Nourish over 3 but I found myself struggle at 120ish lvl steel path. maybe I should change subsume like Kullervo or something? ty.

[grave cloak]

Bane mod

[grave cloak]

Forma over 2 of the 3 umbral polarity slots at minimum as it's dead useless on Excalibur, use lycath's hunt and subsume over 2, and use catalyzing shields to shield gate

Your 1 gives you i-frames so if you have catalyzing shields and an augur mod or brief respite, whenever your shields break just tap 1 to get back another 1.33s of shield gating

[digital plover]

Does arcane agility work when Nyx is using Absorb/Assimilate?

[fair knoll]

DAS WHAT IM SAYIN

I have no idea what to do

I kinda feel like shield gating is gonna be something you have to do but I really hate that playstyle

[solar reef]

his 1st is literally THE shieldgate tool

Just use his 1st when your shield pops

[novel bear]

I thought pillage was THE shieldgate tool

[analog stirrup]

Any fast casting ability can be a shield-gating tool if you know how to use it, bonus points if it provides invulnerability frames.

Assuming the frame you are using it on has shields to begin with.

[midnight horizon]

Mw I spam Volt's 2 (i am speed)

[lucid sluice]

whats a good progenitor for bramma?

[midnight horizon]

Tox I guess

Or elec / mag

[mighty flare]

Yes

It works in assimilate yeah

[haughty sparrow]

Can someone please explain to me what this 2nd set of stats is referring to on the twin grakatas, I'm not sure if i should be using secondary enervate on it or not

[buoyant patio]

Visual bug.

[mystic canyon]

is there any way to set incarnon ability loadouts or do i need to manually adjust it every time

[fathom sky]

Manual. That being said idk what weapons you'd want to be switching around for

[granite ginkgo]

unless you like me, got two set of both and diff perk pick, only take, invest 20p to rename the weapon to not get confuse lol

[sweet pike]

I’ve just build Grendal prime and Im wondering if anyone can recommend a steel path build to me

[mystic canyon]

damn alrighty. I wanted slightly different things for ruvox for nyx and general use

[sour compass]

Well, you can't take damage so I'd assume it does not

[prisma summit]

im using volt and cant get past vox solaris

[grave cloak]

subsume breach surge over his 3. exilus is ideally PSF. if you are running into energy issues swap aegis for arcane energize and/or use yellow and purple energy shards

[mighty flare]

it works

[sour compass]

Well that makes 0 sense, but thanks for correcting me

[grave cloak]

if it doesn't make sense just assume bugframe being bugframe tbh

[sour compass]

I mean, I'm still fairly new so a lot of things that seemingly don't make sense to me are just me misunderstanding the mechanics of the game

I've been trying to figure out why I'm occasionally getting really absurd damage numbers from breach surge and I think I figured it out? But if there's anything this game taught me it's to never be sure with my conclusions

[mellow nest]

Many effects have different types that stack up differently, e.g. you might end up with one value getting added before multiplication, resulting in more damage than expected

[grave cloak]

if there's anything this game has taught me after 5 years of playing it's that I just suffer a massive skill issue amongst my friends tbh

while they were beating the apex tank on the day it released before it got nerfed I had to abuse latron armor stripping and furis incarnon just to clear it after 2 months of practice

maybe I just got old tbh but eh 👴

[mellow nest]

Brother no

There is no reason to rush anything like that. If someone enjoys being competitive with their loadouts, then thats great, doesnt mean you have to experience the game at their pace

[grave cloak]

eh we're very competitive tbh

and I like it

shrug

[mellow nest]

As long as its by choice

You can surely get some feedback for your builds if you want and perhaps a Roadmap on what to go for next, if you want to scale up your damage

[grave cloak]

oh I do know how modding works don't worry - I usually do level cap disruption every other week if I'm bored

only haven't done it this week and last week since plague star so y'know

[mellow nest]

Aight

[serene bison]

guys i need wisp build

[latent adder]

https://overframe.gg/build/511102/wisp-prime/ravenous-wraith-nourish-wisp-sp-general-use-and-endurance-levelcap/

[grave cloak]

I wonder if it's still worth it to subsume off wisp's 4 now that it has the augment tbh

[mighty flare]

you still subsume over it unless specifically building for it

[burnt lava]

Yes

[grave cloak]

mhm

[rugged merlin]

Hi ! Does anyone has any advices on builds for excalibur umbra ? especially for steel's path

[pale belfry]

Warframe: Shield Gating is a key or you could spam dash (1st skill)

Exalted melee: most funny and strong build imo is elec + blast

[mellow nest]

What is the interaction with Proteas Shield Satellites and Catalyzing Shields? Does it double the 1,33 seconds?

[atomic aurora]

Hello guys I'm a returning newbie here(played but on and off years ago and didn't even get OP form back then), I wanna build my Umbra/Reg Excal and so far I've had great success being bale to easily deal with lvl 100+ enemies. But I'm not sure which elements are best with his Exalted, I've heard Viral is good for more health damage and Mag for shield so I have both and elec so I can use melee influence but no idea other than that. Sorry if it's kinda long just confused on how elements work on deeper levels since I've mostly been able to Exalted Blade heavy attack my way thru everything so far, but afraid I might hit a brick wall in SP.

[sour compass]

so what I think is happening is that hydroid´s 3 dmg bonus is applied twice and multiplicatively?

since it applies to the damage instance that caused the spark and then also the spark itself

[mellow nest]

@grave cloak can I read up on that somewhere? I figured it should since breaking shield with a satellite active would also normally double the iframes

[mellow nest]

Its possible. Im not really sure how it works in this instance. Could also be that resulting sparks just do more dmg since they can and will try to headshot enemies and the damage can be quite high when the initial target dies and releases a spark

[sour compass]

maybe, but Ive seen sparks hit for up to 16m while the upper limit of what my weapons do is usually around 1.5

which does not really add up unless what Im describing is the case

[mellow nest]

If you have a lot of strength then the damage amplification is extremely high, as it's also a guaranteed crit and the spark will attempt to headshot an enemy. Theres actually a calculator on the warframe wiki for the damage amplification

Seems to be 5x with 250% strength

Before crit and headshot

[sour compass]

Im trying to use my hydroid as mostly an ability frame, so I am stacking up a lot of strenght

[mellow nest]

Its possible that thats a huge part of it, yeah

[pale belfry]

as i mentioned above. On base steelpath, you could use blast + electricity with Arcane influence

[sour compass]

its just odd to sometimes get a 10k hit and other times its >10m

so I wanted to figure out what´s the cause of that

so I can get more 10m ticks and less 10k

[mellow nest]

Its related to the dmg that caused the spark

So if you do 250 dmg from like a slash proc or 250k from a gunshot or smth thats a huge difference

[sour compass]

thats what makes me think that the damage bonus from hydroid´s 3 influences it

because it boosts both gun and abiltiy damage

[latent adder]

Yes

Hydroid applies to breach surge separately

Similar to nourish

[sour compass]

so my assumptions were correct for once

thanks

[mellow nest]

Likely so

Thought of subsuming breach surge onto protea too

Since you can get +100% more strength there and trigger a million surges via 1 and 2

[sour compass]

one thing that I did not know (and that is very cool) is that you can remove/replace subsumes at any time

[mellow nest]

Which has crazy damage aplification

[mellow nest]

You can also have multiple configs with different ones

[sour compass]

I thought you needed to sacrifice a frame every time you wanted to replace an ability

definitely a pleasant surprise

[mellow nest]

Man that would suck for some : D

[sour compass]

the other day I figured pillage would be a fun one to experiment with

then I looked at what you need to do to obtain hildryn

[grave cloak]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Catalyzing_Shields

As per the wiki itself, under the bugs section, catalyzing shields makes it so that your shield gate duration is 1.33s always

@mellow nest

[mellow nest]

Ah I see, makes sense now. Thank you

[mellow nest]

Its actually really easy. Did that a few weeks ago knowing basically nothing.
You just need the Diluted Thermia from the event (which is still ongoing I think), then you go to Deck 12, which is nearby, put the Thermia into the machine, fight the Exploiter Orb, which is very easy too.
Throw canisters, shoot vents.
Later on get canisters, fill them up with Thermia, throw canisters (+ shoot them). Tear piece from the orb, repeat.

Only one person needs to spend theit thermia each fight, so if you have a duo or more, you can just do the Diluted Thermia 2 - 4 times and have everything you need

You also get a mega thoroid and stuff from the orb

[sour compass]

I saw how long the wiki page about the fight is and figured its probably beyond my current level

[mellow nest]

Nah boss

My SO was MR8 when we did it and it wasnt an issue

[sour compass]

I might give it a try then

[mellow nest]

Hardest part is getting the Thermia, not the boss

[sour compass]

I have a few since I needed to get amalgam mods

[mellow nest]

Then youre already set. Find a public lobby or someone else in squad finder. Its gonna help you out if you end up not getting all parts with your limited Thermia

[upper kestrel]

So i was trying to get a good riven for Verglas but im not sure what exactly i need on it, this is what I got so far

[pale belfry]

Tbh, verglas only need cc for bond mod which active x1.2 crit dmg

Most the time verglas already strong enough to burn them even without riven

Amount dmg mostly from warframe should be okay than that

[upper kestrel]

Oh okay thank you

[visual kettle]

anything i can improve? verglas config (and to why i use 2 crit rate mods, i use tenacious bond)

[vapid pivot]

Anyone got a resourceful retriever build? My chesa kubrow is trash… hardly procs the double loot effect!

[visual kettle]

u are just unlucky, u cant incrase the chance

[vestal hound]

does it even work with Scope mod? since they only get crit chance when aiming, it seems like a tricky interaction

[vapid pivot]

Dang it

[visual kettle]

i heard it works idk

[vestal hound]

So far I only heard that verglas can be used with tenacious bond only if you have a riven, so if Scope also works, then that's a good thing.

[woven berry]

Does Vicious Bond's secondary effect mean Warframe abilities or Companion abilities given by precepts?

[visual kettle]

ninjase told me it works, so i trust him kekw

[woven berry]

Yeah I tested this myself a few months back. Scope does work.

Obviously the buff only lasts as long as Scope does

[burnt lava]

Yes because the crit is too low for any mods to work

[vestal hound]

You need + 257% crit for prime verglas to get 50%, which completely achievable with scope + some standard crit mode then. However, what is accuracy on the companions? Do they aim for the heads? Since it only needs to be a headshot

[raven python]

how can i make this kuva grattler build better?

toxin 60%

[woven berry]

You can proc Galv Scope on companion weapons by landing headshots yourself

This is what I tested out to see if it worked

Scope and Crosshairs

[vestal hound]

That solves quite a lot, thank you, didn't know that

[woven berry]

Yeah no problem

There's a lot of shit we have to find out for ourselves in this game

It's part of the fun, actually. I just had the idea in my head and tested it and got my answer so why not share the answer with everyone else

[woven berry]

Honestly considering how limited Arch-gun mods are I don't think there's anything you can do here

[raven python]

i still need to forma it 4 more times but i just wanted to know if theres any better mods i could use

[woven berry]

Unless you have the 60/60s

[raven python]

i dont think i do

[woven berry]

I only have one and it's the cold one, Hypothermic Shell

[raven python]

nah

[woven berry]

idk where to find the others

[raven python]

i got none of them

[raven python]

baro maybe?

[woven berry]

Oh I also have Charged Bullets (electric)

[vestal hound]

Fomorian sabotage, apparently

[woven berry]

But yeah just throw on another Madurai (y) or put on a Naramon (dash)

[raven python]

so i should keep my electrified barrel and venemous clips till i get the 60 version?

[woven berry]

Magazine Extension is good for the Grattler

[raven python]

idk what mod to switch it out for tho

[woven berry]

Which is a 9-cost Naramon (dash) mod

Oh wait

[raven python]

im waiting

grattler has 60 in the mag already

with mag extension it goes to 96

i think

[woven berry]

Yeah I think I confused myself because I still have the OG grattler

Which has a 30 mag

This is my build

[raven python]

is ur progenitor magnetic?

[woven berry]

Nah, Radiation

[raven python]

ah

[woven berry]

When DE revealed the Elemental Vice I stopped caring about progenitor elements lmao

[raven python]

lol

[woven berry]

And holy shit I have too many of them. They made them too common

[raven python]

can valence go above 60%

[woven berry]

I have 9 right now

Nah 60 is the cap

[raven python]

9 grattlers?

[woven berry]

ooh which reminds me I need to check Eleanor's stock

[woven berry]

No, 9 vices

[raven python]

oh

[woven berry]

I don't even have enough adversary weapons to use them on

[raven python]

i havent used the vice idk how they work

[woven berry]

Put 5 forma on an adversary weapon (Kuva, Tenet, Coda) and then you can add an elemental vice.

[raven python]

oh

[woven berry]

It lets you change the element.
It is not one-use. You equip it onto the weapon and can switch the element at any time in the Arsenal

[raven python]

do i still need mag capacity?

mag extension mb

[woven berry]

Nah mag cap isn't necessary on the Kuva Grattler

That was my mistake I mixed it up for the base grattler

[raven python]

so just switch out the elemental mods for the gold ones?

[woven berry]

I recommend it yeah

[raven python]

ok

[woven berry]

If you can be bothered to farm or buy them, that is

I sure as hell can't, lmfao

[raven python]

ok

u said u dont know where to get them right?

[woven berry]

The mods? Yeah I have no idea

I just so happen to have the two I have

[raven python]

fomorian sabotage

i just looked it up @woven berry

[woven berry]

Aye

You'll have to wait for a Fomorian to spawn then

[raven python]

that is ass

im tryna farm the event

@woven berry technically i can forma electrified barrel now and then just forma swap to parallax scope when i get the 60 mod right?

i still need to use 4 forma but theres only 4 unpolarised mod slots on the grattler

[woven berry]

Sure if you want to. You're gonna have lots of extra capacity so you could probably just remove the polarities too

[raven python]

hmm

[deep grotto]

Hmm
If i want to make the Paracesis even more of a sentient slayer
Would I just slap Umbral mods onto it?

[woven berry]

I'll check the stats real quick

Rank 8 Sac Steel brings the critical chance up to 100.8% with Sac Pressure which makes it perfect for Melee Duplicate

So yes, I reckon so

Alternatively, Rank 10 Sac Steel without Sac Pressure

My advice? One Umbral Forma.

[deep grotto]

That might be all i have anyway lmao

[sour thunder]

Is braton prime worth investing into? i got its incarnon adapter this week

[deep grotto]

Depends
What other weapons are in rotation that you have?

[analog stirrup]

Its a solid AR. Gets outshined by burston and toxicist but still solid.

[sour thunder]

this is my very first incarnon, i dont have any other 'plain'(?) rifles. i do have a stahlta which seems decent too

but i thought that the incarnon would pretty much make braton a better choice

[analog stirrup]

The braton series are mostly confy ARs, not the highest damage output but very confy to use.

[deep grotto]

I don’t think anyone would suggest you get any of this week’s other adapters anyway

[sour thunder]

i just want a rifle which i can spray and pray with

[deep grotto]

Besides maybe like
kunai maybe??????? Idk bruh

[sour thunder]

i only really use epitaph on my secondary

[deep grotto]

Epitaph good

[analog stirrup]

Kunai is mostly an acolyte deleter sadly, low useability outside of that particular use.

[sour thunder]

braton prime seemed like the easiest one to grind up, especially since we have plague star event rn

so a fast rifle felt like a great weapon against hemocytes or whatever they are

[eternal prism]

kompressa also good

[deep grotto]

It’s neat if you use the surging blades synergy thing too

[sour thunder]

still grinding for the barrel for that

[analog stirrup]

Againt the hemocite you are beter off with a regular hek than any of the rifles.

[sour thunder]

i tried it, but it just doesnt feel that strong

[latent adder]

warframe ability

[woven berry]

Awesome. So that would work with plenty of AoEs and rapid damaging abilities

Does it spread the total strip, or the 15% strip each time?

[sour thunder]

i was looking at some builds for braton on overframe, and they did seem pretty simple cuz i actually have all the mods they need

[woven berry]

It would be amazing on Volt I reckon. He speeds up companion melee attacks and movement speed, and his 1 and 4 hit multiple enemies at once repeatedly

[analog stirrup]

What were you using on it, did find it effective with little modding

[sour thunder]

the usual base dmg, crit chance, crit dmg, multishot, bane, and fire element i think

there were some more, but i dont have the game open atm sorry

[analog stirrup]

All gud, enough to get an idea

[grave cloak]

the gorgon with the augment can be funny against the hemocyte tbh since it temporaily freezes the hemocyte when it opens up

[analog stirrup]

On hek I went mostly multishot and elementals since its cc is so low, ends up being more consistent

[latent adder]

just 15 each time

only really viable on helios

helios shoots deconstructor very fast

[woven berry]

It can be given to Beasts too can't it?

[latent adder]

yeah

they dont hit quite as fast tho

esp from a distance

[woven berry]

Not without Volt or Wisp speed buffs

But yeah I get what you mean

[sour thunder]

alr i guess ill try hek for plague star again

[woven berry]

Too bad deconstructor prime isn't usable for Tenacious Bond

[wide saddle]

I need help building Rhino prime and Nekros prime.

Rhino for tanks build cheap way
Nekros farming build cheap way

[mellow nest]

Well if you wanna go cheap just get the standard version

If not, then you'll either need some vaulted relics, for which the most efficient way would be to rad share them with other, or you buy the parts via warframe.market, buy the set via warframe.market (if its cheaper than the sum of the parts), or you trade for the parts in the trade chat, these are your options.

If you meant mods build with Builds, then apologies lmao

[steep berry]

hey i needd some help i am getting one hit on steel path with my protea prime even that 1st ability is on i just die what do i do

[wide saddle]

Allow me to clarity, I need help with modding the warframe however the problem lays with the end game mods a lot players use. Which in fact I’m not at that stage as of yet, I’m more looking for mods I can buy with plat to just wanted something I can use to gradually get a feel of it.

[wide saddle]

Ima show you my build and you can just pick from it

[steep berry]

please!

[wide saddle]

This should help cause I don’t get 1 tap but it’s quite useful for me

[steep berry]

ooooooh

i seee

can u tell me a warframe like all rounder type

or mayhbe survival crowd ctrl

[wide saddle]

This is a all rounder build, focus on more survival and DPS

[steep berry]

i seee

[wide saddle]

But I run a bow with it which 1 shot mobs on bright side

[steep berry]

i mean i need more fun warframe like protea

[wide saddle]

So it helps since of all the status effects

[wide saddle]

Ahhh I see

[wide saddle]

Get saryn or equinox

[steep berry]

i made octavia but it just nukes everything and i often fall asleep while playin it

[steep berry]

hmmm equoinox kinda felt confusing

[wide saddle]

Equinox is my go to whenever times get tough cause boiiii can she nuke a crowd

[steep berry]

tyhat transgender guy

[wide saddle]

Nah bro

[steep berry]

woaah

[wide saddle]

😭😭

[steep berry]

hows caliban?

[wide saddle]

Whenever me and my brother runs SP, he always runs limbo prime and I run Equinox and buddy once I’m out that void and hit that 4 then 3 and wait 30 secs

15-30

Everything dead

[wide saddle]

Not the best

But it has its perks

[steep berry]

i seeee

it can summon those flying spinners

and turrets

[wide saddle]

I was gonna buy him for $60 but was told to get protea and use the remaining to get rhino and nekros

[steep berry]

and a guy whicch lay babies stuff

[wide saddle]

That I did and now I’m loving it very much

[steep berry]

caliban??

[wide saddle]

I was told not to buy caliban

[steep berry]

why??

[wide saddle]

Get protea instead

[steep berry]

yeah! same!!

[wide saddle]

Cause it’s a “high investment frame” in other words

[steep berry]

thats why i built protea instead

[wide saddle]

Needs a lot of work before you see results

Which is loooong process

[steep berry]

what protea?

[wide saddle]

No caliban

[steep berry]

oooh

[wide saddle]

I got protea last week Sunday and finish building her in Tuesday

And buddy I can’t die 😂😂😂

[steep berry]

me too but stealpath infestation one shot me

[wide saddle]

Never had that problem tbh

[wide saddle]

The invincible guard always saves me

So I just repeat the cycle

[gleaming socket]

cinta?

[steep berry]

yeah the moment it goes down and im not looking and enjoyin the game i die

[wide saddle]

Sadly no it’s cernos

[gleaming socket]

okkk

[steep berry]

like it buffs bows?

can naturak help?

[wide saddle]

Are you in Jacksonville? Or you just live that city?

[mellow nest]

Good news for you, 95% of the best mods can be gotten as early as Deimos, which is the second planet.
And 100% can be gotten with plat at MR2+

[wide saddle]

THATS THE BOW I WANT

[steep berry]

noo

just went there once and name sounded cool

[steep berry]

u get it in story right??

[wide saddle]

Yeah it helps a lot cause protea is heat base turrent so all you got to do is run high status chance with all status effects and you clapping everyone of those bots

[wide saddle]

Lol I see

[wide saddle]

Yea but I haven’t finish the story yet so I’m tryna finish it

[steep berry]

wow really?

[wide saddle]

Bet now I need to get a build and I’m set

[wide saddle]

Sadly

[steep berry]

storry is hella addictive as fk fr

[wide saddle]

I had to take a break a few times cause buddy I don’t wanna finish the game too work

[steep berry]

yeah too much work nowadays

[wide saddle]

Very so what I do now is complete a story in a week and keep grinding other stuff

[steep berry]

well i can live with 3hrs a day sleep so no worries

[wide saddle]

I got a job I can’t be doing that no more 😭😭

[steep berry]

i do freelance but still i get lots of orders

[wide saddle]

Yeah I get what you mean

[steep berry]

no actually the clg is the problem😭

[steep berry]

idk maybe get a bucket of popcorn or crisps and dr pepper and binge the entire game on weekend

[wide saddle]

Hell nah lemme enjoy myself surely and slowly

[steep berry]

yup enjoy it slowly

[wide saddle]

There you go

[steep berry]

[wide saddle]

I got respect for you, if you ever need a farming buddy just hmu. Ima add you if you don’t mind.

[lethal bison]

hey guys i just got chroma, how should i build him

[hushed owl]

this is the best I was able to cook with what I had for my Harrow

[analog stirrup]

Standard weapon platform build, power+ duration

[hushed owl]

Didn't want to burn 20 plat for the exilus slot rn so im just gonna deal w/ power drift being where it is

[gaunt rivet]

Yeah, don't burn plat for that
There's much cheaper ways to get the adapter
...albeit only Acrithis comes to mind, and that's only if she carries it rn

[analog stirrup]

Appears often in the calendar thing in holvania too

[hushed owl]

yeah i was just gonna farm it

[agile vortex]

Is it true that melee exposure does not affect exalted blade or is wiki capping

[grave cloak]

idk whether we're reading the same wiki

[agile vortex]

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Melee_Exposure

[grave cloak]

yeah don't read fandom.

it's no longer updated.

use the official wiki.

[agile vortex]

Ooooh

[mellow nest]

Most Fandom pages are just a cc of the WF wiki

[crimson osprey]

Hey, odd question, lemme give some context. been messing with my titania, and oberon prime- in history theyre from a play, fairy king/queen. titania has the fairies, is there any ability/weapon that can kind of support that aesthetic? MY melee is a nikana zaw ive been using for years, feels strong, and supports the knightly look of oberon- so the paracyst glaive is out

[shell tundra]

Am I not playing the game correctly when I say that a crit build for the Boar Prime Incarnon is fun?

[mighty flare]

?

[grave cloak]

crit for boar incarnon is perfectly fine though huh?

[mighty flare]

its ur opinion man, not really correct or wrong

[hard dove]

can i say a bow? i feel like it would fit what a woodland creature would pick
or do you need a weapon from oberon?

[real adder]

guys should i subsume over baruuks 1 or 2? (im using a positive duration build)

[grave cloak]

2

[crimson osprey]

was more interested in thflavor of somethign with faries/drones things liek that

ophalim eye from Jade fit that bill pretty well, i also got an AoE snare+dmg i beleive

[brittle sleet]

Chyrinka Pillar for sowing chaos among the mortal creatures with faerie light

[queen parcel]

any subsumes that dont need any strength scaling?

my nova build is mostly just duration and range but i can't find any good weapon platform abilitys

[mighty flare]

silence energized munitions

[queen parcel]

awh, is that it?

[mighty flare]

prob more but you really should just have pos strength unless this is a specific nova build for like plaguestar

[queen parcel]

na it's a weapon platform, uses the augments for her 1 and 4 and hot shot

so that's 300% crit chance, double damage and the molecular prime explostin which i did put on precision intensify so they'd be powerful-ish

just not sure which weapon to use...

[mighty flare]

weapons you can use: sobek, furax, dchor, okina, hate, zarimen incarnons, spinnerex, etc

theres genuinely tons of weapons you can use for nova

[queen parcel]

well i wanna stay in line with the fashion

would look weird to just use a scythe out of nowhere

[mighty flare]

i listed like 4 other melees

[queen parcel]

that's not the point

[jade horizon]

for a hate afflictions build would you go gas or pure heat?

[pure reef]

Any1 got a link to some math on Hall of Malevolence? I'm operating on the basis that you're always using Total Eclipse because duh. From what I can tell I think Malevolence is just a tiny benefit and likely not really worth using

[jade horizon]

the clones do benefit from total eclipse and its multiplicative so its definitely worth using if youre going for a weapon buff build

I actually dont usually run total eclipse without hall of malevolence because the range sucks so I can run narrow minded

[pure reef]

Ye I'm up to speed in that regard. Your clones only deal a fraction of your damage though, so the starting point is lower. Malevolence offers a much lower increase in damage than I think people realise

[versed harbor]

nah for one mod slot hall of malevolence is a big dmg buff

50% multiplicative at base strength but most mirages run high strength anyway

but then thats affecting each clone so it racks up

granted you'd still nuke without it

[pure reef]

It's not affected by strength and only two of your clones shoot, each at 40% of your own damage, crit, and status

[jade horizon]

https://overframe.gg/build/191180/mirage-prime/total-malevolence-mirage-dual-augment-max-dps-weapon-platform-solo-steel-path/

Read the guide it'll explain what we're trying to tell you better

[pure reef]

So say you had an attack that did 100 damage, and a 500% eclipse.

You'd deal 500 (100x5), and your two clones would do do 200 (40x5) for a total of 900 damage.

Malevolence will boost the damage of each of your clones by 50%, bringing them to 300 each. A total of 1100 damage.

An overall damage increase of 22.2%. It's not nothing but it's also not a lot. I'm wondering if there's a spreadsheet that compares Malevolence at diff strength values and stuff

[velvet pulsar]

Has anyone ever managed to make exodia Epidemic deal high damage?

[pure reef]

Since each hologram does approx 60% of weapon damage at 300% str, the total of four clones is 240% weapon damage, which is redistrbuted over 2 holograms when using primary/secondary weapons so each hologram actually does does 120% weapon damage.

This isn't correct afaik? Each clone would deal 60% of your guns damage, and only two shoot. So the total of each clone is... 60%?

[jade horizon]

Its calculated as if all clones are doing damage it's just not all clones will actually shoot in the case of non melee weapons

[karmic holly]

How to build the Gram Prime with Kullervo in mind?

[jade horizon]

Spaghetti code

[pure reef]

I'll do some testing then. Might have to update the wiki page on the ability

[outer shore]

Hey i was wondering, for atlas is there any Archon Shard that is preferable on him? I am a little separated between 4 Strength and 1 Casting speed or 5 Melee crit Damage

[mighty flare]

casting speed and melee cd is good

[outer shore]

How many Melee CD is enought? Like i am thinking maybe like 2 Strength, 2 Melee CD and 1 Casting Speed

[mighty flare]

3 or 4 melee cd would be preferred to that

If 3, last one could be another casting or parkour

[karmic holly]

Would building for Viral and having things like CO and BR work?

[north marlin]

does reave actually deal an instance of dmg and if it does can it proc breach surge sparks

[latent adder]

Yes

[latent adder]

When they shoot each clone deals 40%dmg at base aka 120% at 300 str

[karmic holly]

Is the Gram or Galatine better

[pure reef]

So the wiki is just wrong?

[latent adder]

Mm how? Wiki says 40%

Melee is 20% x 4

[pure reef]

Ok but run me through the math here. If you do have two clones each dealing 60% weapon damage, and a 500% eclipse, that's not 120% x 500%, it's 60% x 500% (hitting twice)

The clones all have seperate damage instances so you can't roll them into one when doing multiplication, that'll result in a much higher number on paper no?

[latent adder]

Where are u getting 60% from?

[pure reef]

Your scenario

[latent adder]

Thats for MELEE

For guns its double

But half the clones

If youre talking melee then its 60% x 4

And if you can just add up all clone dmg together depending on the weapon

[pure reef]

Ohhhhhh I see where I've tripped up. I've been operating under the assumption that the 60% on the ability screen is for guns, and melee would be doing 30%

[latent adder]

I.e. with enough range or aoe having 2 clones dealing dmg on the same enemy is equivalent to dmg x 2

[pure reef]

Right so with 60% on the ability screen, guns are actually doing 1.2x your regular damage/crit/status

[latent adder]

Yeah

[pure reef]

This is why I thought hall of Malevolence wasn't very good, a 1.5x multi on clones that aren't even doing your full base damage (what I thought was 60%) just seems really weak

A 1.5x on guys who are already hitting harder than you.. plus eclipse

Ok I'm sold

[crimson osprey]

ophanim eyes on oberon feels pretty good. the effect with my build is only 54 second duration, 80 dmg+16% reduction, but on his already boring kit, it gives me sometihng else to do and feels fairy-like

[pure reef]

Legit nobody has been sharp enough to pick up on my math being wrong

[latent adder]

Actually one more thing to keep in mind is the weapon mods, clones ignore galvanized mod stacks and arcanes so ultimately they end up dealing way less dmg than you can

Clones also cant explode glaives or contagion which are the two strongest mirage weapons

So in a sense, you could definitely drop both total eclipse and hall of Malevolence and be fine in certain cases

[subtle bear]

Uhmm... can anyone help me decide which riven is better? feel like both are near godrolls but not quite :/

i wish the latter was minus crit on slide attack then it wouldve been good :<

[latent adder]

Right

Has neg and range is a stat you cannot outsource

[cloud pine]

How good is the Coda mire?

[deep grotto]

main chat's a bit busy so i'll ask here
ive only got two shotguns on me
I was hunting for Kuva Hek and Sobek but no luck (the one Hek i got was an Ephemera lich so it'd be better if I sold bro)

Would a Sobek or Vaykor Hek be better for Plague Star?

[mighty flare]

Pretty good slammer

[mighty flare]

Kuva sobek? Or base?

[cloud pine]

Is it only good for slamming? I don’t necessarily like that play style

[grave cloak]

you can use it for influence slop as well

but that goes for any melee tbh so

[cloud pine]

It has a 50% electric valence atm, should I get it

[grave cloak]

sure ig?

[mighty flare]

It has a specific niche for slamming, if you use it for something else, that’s fine but you could use something else for that

[grave cloak]

it's your live heartcells after all

[deep grotto]

As i said, I couldn’t get my hands on the Kuva variants

[mighty flare]

sorry for delay, then vaykor

[oblique warren]

NEED HELP!!!

Whats the best arcane to put on the warframe to boost kuva nukor's damage

[vital relic]

does anyone have a good build for the pyrana Prime for the event?

[astral tinsel]

It used to be avenger, but nowadays you're better off using secondary enervate

your other options are velocity (fire rate), pistoleer (ammo efficiency), precision (base damage) and one more base damage that I forget the name of

[summer hollow]

Right...this one is great, who needs slash btw 😏.

[karmic holly]

What else should I add to this build?

I was planning on adding Gladiator Vice and Organ Shatter

[mighty flare]

heavy spam? does tempo royale have forced lifted/knockdown on light attacks?

[pseudo orbit]

Anyone have a good occucor build without a riv?

[karmic holly]

Yes it can

[mighty flare]

if ur using light spam then you need a dot to affliction like gas or sum
then melee range too
if no force procs gonna want weeping wounds

[stable glen]

Does anyone have advice for making the alternox not suck

[next pier]

Best archon for valk is purple with crit right?

[mighty flare]

it just sucks sorry mate

you can cope with giga platformers but youd get more for less out of other guns

[pseudo orbit]

If I was using shocking speed, would sand kavats benefit off of this?

[stable glen]

That may be true... but... dat skin...

[mighty flare]

stack primary electric shards and like roar

[grave cloak]

Yeah

[pseudo orbit]

Okay good to know

Also what is the summoner’s wrath buff when it’s paired with coaction drift? Is it a flat 30% buff or is it 30% of that 75%?

[pseudo orbit]

Also, what would be the best purple shard option for the sand kavats? Would it be this one or the melee buff?

[wise pivot]

Should i switch anything here?

[daring fulcrum]

no range is gonna make it hard to reduce restraint

like really hard

[wise pivot]

Believe it or not, its not that hard

Low duration lets me spam his 2

And his 3rd skill grants me around 24 knifes

[crimson osprey]

Do you have purple archon shards? If you build for those, he gets even nuttier

[wise pivot]

Yep

All Tau Forged

[crimson osprey]

I think it looks pretty good- I cant refer to my build atm.

[pseudo orbit]

Daily reset being in 12 hours is genuinely criminal cause wdym I can’t trade for the mods I need

[woven berry]

Does Dessication w/ Dessication's Curse work with Ash's Bladestorm?

Dessication's Curse is an augment that spawns sand kavats when you do a finisher on enemies blinded by it

So if I subsumed it onto Ash, threw pocket sand and then simulated an average night in London, would I get a lot of cats?

[pseudo orbit]

Reddit says no

[mellow nest]

That means you need to try it out yourself

Because those people dont actually play the game

[woven berry]

lmao fair

[woven berry]

The redditors were correct

It doesn't even work with Teleport

That sucks, man

Though it's funny because it also doesn't work with Mercy kills either

So you need to straight up walk into an enemy and press a button to finish them in order to make use of Desiccation's Curse

And there's nothing else you can do to proc it besides that

idk how to feel about this like

On the one hand, sure, we don't want like 20 swarm kavats running around at once

On the other hand just... cap them? lmao? Like max it out at 5 swarm kavats and call it a day

[jagged meteor]

Hi

[undone dust]

they are capped 😭

[woven berry]

Oh well my bad then lmao

[undone dust]

desiccation's caps them to 5

[woven berry]

So there's literally zero reason to not let it work on any form of melee finisher

But no I have to walk up and press Interact on a clunky-ass Ui for a clunky-ass mechanic to perform a clunky-ass attack that may or may not even kill an enemy compared to vaporising them with a Kuva Zarr, just to get a sand cat that only lasts for a few seconds anyway

[finite haven]

I was wondering if anyone knows why my dark sword is only hitting for 4 mill max and moug the Warframe YouTuber hit damage cap with his one, I have to same build + a riven imo is better then his

[woven berry]

Wait doesn't Inaros have 'finishers' in his kit anyway?

[undone dust]

desiccation opens them up for finishers

[undone dust]

also they usually last longer because they're self sufficient, the kavats proc swarm on enemies so when it dies they spawn another kavat

[woven berry]

Yeah but like doesn't he have an ability that devours enemies and when they die it counts as a finisher?

[undone dust]

no?

the only warframe that has an ability like that is grendel but it doesnt count as finishers

[woven berry]

aye

[earnest saddle]

coda bassocyst

[green escarp]

hows it looking rn?

[glossy pivot]

I never see anyone using Banshee/prime version is she just not great? I personally only use her for focus farming mainly with gloom. If anyone has a Decent build for her for another playstyle i would appreciate it.

[analog stirrup]

Banshee is just... Niche, for the most part only speedrunners use her when dealing with some bosses. Sonar builds for the most part, usualy max power+ some duration and eff while keeping range in the positives, shield gate shenanigans for survivability.

[agile vortex]

is this a good build?
Sevagoth mods: Growing Power (forma), Primed Sure Footed (forma), Adaptation, Umbral Intensify, Umbral Vitality, Augur Reach, Blind Rage, Dark Propagation (forma), Shadow Haze, Primed Continuity (forma). | Arcanes: Arcane Energize, Molt Augmented | Archon Shards: 2x Blue Tauforged (+75 energy), 2x Red (+10% STR), 1x Yellow (25% Cast Speed)

Sevagoth Shadow Mods: Steel Charge, Power Drift, Adaptation, Streamline(forma), Augur Secrets (forma), Stretch, Primed Continuity, Umbral Intensify, Umbral Vitality, Transient Fortitude | Arcanes: Arcane Strike, Arcane Fury.

Claws Mods: Primed Pressure Point (forma), Sacrificial Steel, Berserker Fury (forma), Gladiator Might, Primed Reach, Organ Shatter, Vicious Frost, Virulent Scourge.

Any way to make anything even better?>

[analog stirrup]

If you aint planning on level cap, its fine as it is.

[agile vortex]

What if I wanna level cap

[analog stirrup]

Swap survivability for shieldgate and set it as a nuke build. Can check ninjase builds on overframe, he has updated builds for him there.

Health tanking is hard to pull off in anything that isnt valkity, inaros or chroma for level cap stuff.

[agile vortex]

alright noted

I'll make a nuke build with shieldgate next rn I wanna use shadow :P

[manic surge]

what do i put on here to make getting energy easier? i dont wanna dip below 200 str hydroid prime build

[snow ice]

Are you sure? Cause this my Yareli Prime health tanking build

[analog stirrup]

But yareli OP, shuush...

[snow ice]

Uh okay

[agile vortex]

Is galvinized steel better than sacrifical steel and if so can it substitute gladiator might in this build? (claws)

[analog stirrup]

We cant be giving them those secrets :c

[snow ice]

Welp

I didn't know that 😕

[analog stirrup]

Arcane battery and streamlined instead of flow

Cant have the general player find out the feesh is too stronk

[snow ice]

That makes total sense then

[grave cloak]

okay ngl that's a take way out from leftfield

I can guarantee you there are people who play warframe regularly and they also don't know actual mechanics.

[analog stirrup]

But redditors being flat out wrong is an actual meme at this point, nothing "left field" y about it

Fact checking is something one must do regardless of where tge information comes anyway

[grave cloak]

more so that people just need to do their due dilligence and homework instead of, y'know, blindly trusting randos on the internet

yeah

[autumn sparrow]

made a small thing with Valkyr Prime

[hearty scarab]

Bro what.

😭

Valkyr is true Inaros cannot tank cap easily chroma unsure trinity also really easy

Chroma would probably struggle like Inaros since neither have a DR ability

Double back god

And Valkyr just has nutty stats

Chroma probably could actually

[analog stirrup]

Actualy frogot trin, ty...tho she has her own set of things that make it work for her, kinda like nova or korvex...
There be some layers to the issue... You certainly can do it with those 3 I mentioned, if its worth it... Its another story xD
Kinda have to sacrifice too much to make it worth it but its very much doable.

[hearty scarab]

Inaros cannot tank cap comfortably

[analog stirrup]

Never said anything about confortably

[hearty scarab]

The only frames that can have innate DR abilities or abilities to mega boost HP/armor

[analog stirrup]

I said possible

[hearty scarab]

I mean the opposite of hard is easy and easy is comfortable

[analog stirrup]

You know onions, right... They have layers... Not everything is black and white :3

[mellow nest]

Indeed so. It was formulated in a very general way. Apologies, what I meant is that the vast majority usually doesn't actually engage in the content they are talking about. Ofc this isnt special to warframe, its rather a phenomenon in many games with extensive endgame content or a competitive scene, e.g. 40k

[grave cloak]

yeah I think at the end of the day fact checking yourself is more important tbh

[hollow fable]

why is roar only giving me a 28% damage increase while running over 300+ str?

[deep grotto]

I guess i should drop this here to see what i should do to make it better for the event
Its’s got a reactor, I just haven’t forma’ed it enough times

[vestal hound]

Isn't vaykor hek kinda shooting yourself in the foot since you can't use "scattered justice" mod for 200% multishot?

[deep grotto]

I was gonna save that for a Kuva Hek, but the one time i got it, the Lich had an Ephemera

[wise pivot]

You know you get the Ephemera if you kill or spare a Lich...right?

[deep grotto]

Obviously

I want to sell the lich though

[fathom sky]

The mod is just worse than Galv Chamber anyway so not that big of a deal, though yes you would still use Kuva Hek

[deep grotto]

Just vanquishing an Adversary with an Ephemera feels like a waste

[wise pivot]

Fair

What was the Ephemera?

[deep grotto]

Vengeful Charge

[wise pivot]

Its the floating rocks one, right?

[deep grotto]

The shock one

[wise pivot]

Oh ok, cool

This made me remember:
I need to kill more sisters for Ephemeras....

[deep grotto]

Good luck to you then, bigman

[vestal hound]

Well, I don't have all primed mods for shotgun so extra 200% multishot on top of up to 220% seems to be better than a non-primed elemental mod.

[wise pivot]

I got almost 100% of the Kuva Liches' ephemeras.
100% Coda.
And ONE of the Sisters'

[deep grotto]

The grind commences

[wise pivot]

It does...

[deep grotto]

Which one of the sisters do you have?

[gaunt wasp]

Well, it’s rank one, so work on it a bit

[wise pivot]

Sad part: Kill Sisters without Mushroom frame
Good part: Kill sisters with Baruuk

[deep grotto]

Real lmao

[wise pivot]

Can't remember rn

[deep grotto]

Damn

[snow ice]

The only mushroom frame is the Yareli pandea skin (the wannabe mushroom frame)

[analog stirrup]

Rank 1... Of 3

[fathom sky]

It's probably not because status effects are just really strong when using the right stuff, and elemental mods scale off all your base damage too

[wise pivot]

It's the Clam frame actually

[snow ice]

Oh my bad

[wise pivot]

Just checked, its Lucretia

[snow ice]

Or a pit droid frame (if you're a Star wars fan)

[wise pivot]

Try using Yareli Prime Helmet + Pandea body

[snow ice]

Uh ok

[deep grotto]

Toxin one
Alright
If i ever get another one (i’ll be starting from shock since my main’s Umbra) i’ll tell you about it

[vestal hound]

Well, after putting it together, extra 200% multishot does seem to spit out higher numbers than extra 90% cold damage. Probably because I did buy primed electricity mod for shotguns last baro visit. Obviously it's an optimization problem with several multiplicative sources of damage buffing. It may be so that if I had also primed cold mod, it would outperform scattered justice.

[fathom sky]

You also have to consider stuff like Corro procs on armor or Viral procs in general depending on what you're fighting

[wise pivot]

I was wondering how many ephemeras i got....

I think i have a problem with ephemeras...

[deep grotto]

Good lord
So you have the toxin and magnetic sister ephemeras

[wise pivot]

Yeah, forgot about that one

[agile vortex]

What do I even put on a potatoless equinox prime? 💔

[deep grotto]

A potato

[wise pivot]

Nothing, wait for their rework

Just level them up and thats it

[velvet pulsar]

Man I gotta do kahl missions

[celest tendon]

I need build for melee thst would deal 1m dmg like on hate without having that mode from nightwave.

[velvet pulsar]

Verdilac

[mighty flare]

Potato her then

[vestal hound]

Are there other options for glaives aside from melee influence? Every build i look up online seem to gravitate towards it.

[wise pivot]

Verdilac, Stropha, Thalys, Hate Incarnon (even without the mod you can do 1M easy), Okina Incarnon

[mighty flare]

swap to this, assuming you dont have better versions of mods

[agile vortex]

Don't have potato

[agile vortex]

Why

[wise pivot]

Equinox is among the frames that NEED a Rework 'cause their kit is really REALLY outdated

[agile vortex]

can't u nuke with her?

[wise pivot]

You can.
But you can also nuke with other frames that are much stronger/faster for Nukes

Sevagoth for example

[versed harbor]

me when im incorrect

[fathom sky]

Doesn't she usually just stay in one form or the other

[proven lynx]

should i go for this crewmate or wait for a better buff

[wise pivot]

Yep

[fathom sky]

That sounds rework worthy. Something like what Valkyr got, not hitting her kit

[mighty flare]

sorta yeah, swapping can be very wonky (forms like diff stats)
which is why ppl call her old

[fathom sky]

It's not "this frame does nothing good" rework, it's "this frame is on hospice" rework

[mighty flare]

oncall crew prefer the +150%cc on primary/secondary

50% health condition doesnt boad well

[velvet pulsar]

Good hammer stance?

(I'm probably seeking spin-to-win)

[deep grotto]

doesn't Crushing Ruin have a spinny move?

[tired iron]

What am i doing wrong with my Boar prime build that im barely doing any damage to the hemocyte or is it because i mostly play with wisp its not possible for me to do tons of dmg to him?

[mighty flare]

if you dont have primed element mods, use heat mods
savvy does nothing for hemocyte, use fire rate

[tired iron]

so just pure heat and instead of savvy something like Shotgun barrage?

[velvet pulsar]

Just checked
Forward Block

Screw the Jat Kittag slam build
Spin-to-win Jat Kittag does hell of a job

[mighty flare]

yeah

you could also opt into a +magazine mod over infested bane
less reloading

[novel bear]

Equinox also just has some abilities that are awful
Like pacify

[celest tendon]

So what is side effects in incarnon mode when you change every second on any weapon.

I saw how it affects by lowering down little by little of it.

[fathom sky]

...what?

[celest tendon]

Try on simulation it was funny to see that.

on hate incarnon it hapenned

Really how i didn't noticed that one.

[fathom sky]

I have no idea what you're talking about

[celest tendon]

What effects and side effects does incarnon have,when you change their incarnon mods every 1 minute in simularcum

[deep grotto]

What can i sub Blaze with? I don't have it

i could go with these maybe idk

[thick plaza]

Idk im all fora equi rework maim carries her whole kit imo, rest can be good but niche

One of the best nukes in the game tho undoubtably

What rework we really need tho is banshee...

[versed harbor]

ye I mean sure but equinox rework over everyone is mad imo

[thick plaza]

Yes that i agree w

Def frames that need more help than equi

Do we know anything about oberon rework yet? Im kinda outta the loop

But ik its confirmed hes getting one

[velvet pulsar]

For a hybrid melee build, what's the minimum base CC requirement and minimum base SC requirement? (I'm crafting a hybrid zaw)

(SC is for influence)

[mighty flare]

we know nothing

[thick plaza]

Surely it wont jus be overguard rework haha... surely

[mighty flare]

could do the other heat mod or infested bane or magazine mod

[velvet pulsar]

Pablo was puzzled what to do with the passive

[mighty flare]

should just move stat buffs into renewal and give entirely new passive imo

[thick plaza]

Yea i like that idea

[velvet pulsar]

I think they'll buff his passive and add summons into that category as well
Then they'll give him summons

[mighty flare]

woodland creatures would be good

hopefully like dmg vulnerability or sum

[idle hearth]

so what they can just summon an army of bears?

[velvet pulsar]

Imagine several Sudowoodos

[thick plaza]

That would be tuff

Oberon one of my fave frames design wise hope they do him right

Then i can actually use him

[velvet pulsar]

Oberon was the first frame I made a yt vid on

Hold on this is making sense

Those mushrooms, were they summons of the Devil frame or oberon?

Have we got a confirmation?

Either way, I suspect a summon oriented update

[mighty flare]

wasnt it entirely new frame? the shroom frame

[velvet pulsar]

That even reinforces things further

We're potentially getting a summoner buff update

[wide dragon]

Should I change Augur message for Narrow Minded?

[deep grotto]

popped a riven for a friend of mine
imma reroll it a couple times before i give it back
what stats should I be aiming for?

[fathom sky]

Crit damage, crit chance, multishot(?) I think for Hek

[deep grotto]

all 3 or would it be better to have a negative that balances it out?

LMAO THE RECOIL

[fathom sky]

Always go for a negative, just get one that doesn't hurt you at all like -zoom

[deep grotto]

what do we think

this is the only one out of the 9 rerolls that felt promising

[fathom sky]

Still not slottable

[deep grotto]

damn

wrong reply oml

i'll mention that a perfect roll is fine
I'm not even going to use this, i'm just rolling for a friend who arguably doesn't care about having the best stats
Nor do they fully understand stats, for that matter

[fathom sky]

I mean that looks like good enough bait, then. Riven at minimum should be as good as a mod you're gonna replace it with, which that isn't swapping out Galv. Savvy or Galv. Chamber

[deep grotto]

The friend is MR 9 and hasn’t even done an arbitration before
I don’t think you need to bring up those

Or at the very least, they’ve only done 1

[fathom sky]

Oh then he'll eat whatever slop you give him I wouldn't even roll

[deep grotto]

I’m sure as hell not giving him a shit riven lmao

As long as it’s good enough

Not perfect

I’ll stick with what I just posted, haven’t gotten any better rivens anyway

[wise pivot]

Should i replace any mod here (i switch her 4 for Qorvex's Pillar)

[deep grotto]

I also ran outta kuva

[wise pivot]

(Yes, i know i should switch Primed Cont for Archon, but i have 0 endo rn)

[velvet pulsar]

Unless you're forcing status via hek, it's not bad

[thorn breach]

which is better?

[wise pivot]

More CC

[icy light]

I do have an Omni Forma, what do yall usually run on Voruna for Auras?

I'm not actually too keen on using the omni on the aura slot but like. If I gotta I gotta, cause these Vaz Auras ain't working too great for her. (I mean really ik she's an all-rounder and can spawn health orbs but still.)

[wise pivot]

Mecha set

'Cuz spreading the status effects to ALL enemies without effort is GREAT

[pure reef]

Brief Respite is a classic goat especially on a fairly squishy frame like her. Mecha set is also based as mentioned.

[pure reef]

Does the pillar count as an attack for her 3? I'm wondering what the angle for that subsume is. Placing a bunch of things down seems kinda sick

[wise pivot]

Yep

[woven berry]

Bassocyst works on finishers? I thought it was only mercy

[icy light]

Damn. Alright. I guess when I get back from work tomorrow and top off her mastery I'll forma her aura slot with the Omni. I should pick up her Augments btw right?

[earnest saddle]

oh no, it's just mercy sorry

[woven berry]

Aye

[mild blaze]

i wanna main valk prime but i havent played all year anybody have any halfway decent builds or sum build advice?

[near vortex]

high range
That's about it

If you subsume 1 run the 3 augment

[smoky widget]

is Crit or status better on sun & moon

[near vortex]

influence

[quiet laurel]

you always run hybrid on light attack melees

[grave cloak]

subsume lycath's hunt over 3, then full send it on duration and strength. you're no longer invuln in her 4 so use catalyzing shields for survivability or you can live dangerously and rely only on your passive

[mighty flare]

both

[mighty flare]

you've never needed high strength on valkyr, even prerework. duration isnt even that important either
range is most important stat for grouping off 1/3

[grave cloak]

Duration reduces energy drain from her 4 iirc, and lets her 2 stay longer. Strength increases the buffs from her 2. The 3 is a subsume slot anyway so I tend not to build around a subsume ability.

[mighty flare]

rework Valkyr gets +1k energy with arcane battery, so while yes duration affects channeled abilities, It's not really necessary to max out duration
you can just recast 2 or use its augment, both of which don't need high duration
valkyrs talons have access to condition overload, huge stance multipliers, etc... ~200% strength is more than you'll ever need

range increases the grouping range of her 1/3 which directly help her out for upkeeping her passive

"dangerously" relying on passive is a lot easier with high range

[grave cloak]

recast 2 or use its augment
why would I want to spend energy to recast an ability though? as for the augment, that's more a choice whether to use it. I chose not to use it iirc
~200% strength is more than you'll ever need
glad we're in agreement ig because my build uses blind rage as her only +strength ability iirc
range increases the grouping range of her 1/3 which directly help her out for upkeeping her passive
I don't build around her 3 since I subsumed it off
rework Valkyr gets +1k energy with arcane battery
you don't need so much energy imo. just a primed flow is enough. she's not rhino levels of energy where even a primed flow isn't enough.

[mighty flare]

her 1 groups? did you forget? thats why ppl subsume off her 3

[grave cloak]

no I didn't forget.

and I still subsumed off her 3.

[mighty flare]

okay, so you have her 1 which groups, so you want ability range

[grave cloak]

nope I don't bother with the grouping tbh

if I really want a form of cc for some reason I just use vazarin or nautilus

[mighty flare]

those options are both slower than her 1

[grave cloak]

debatable tbh

[mighty flare]

its not

swapping to operator everytime you want cc?

[grave cloak]

it's not the worst thing to do.

[mighty flare]

its a roundabout method

especially when you have grouping in the kit

[mighty flare]

also, if you're not using the augment, you're eventually recasting anyway? so wdym thats its a choice or not
its 31seconds long at 155% duration

and its confusing to talk about valkyr not needing energy, not wanting to waste energy, and using an energy economy subsume

it sounds contradictory or maybe im misinterpreting

[grave cloak]

it's ~45s long at about 300% duration I think? with primed continuity narrow minded and constitution

less micromanagement involved generally when you put primed continuity on abilities(which is why a lot of frames use it)

[novel bear]

More strength is more attack speed
I like attack speed

[grave cloak]

and with less micromanagement needed you won't necessarily waste energy if it makes sense (once again which is why most frames use primed continuity)

[mighty flare]

so a grand total of 10 extra seconds for using 2 more mods

[grave cloak]

it adds up if you do level cap/hour long runs

[mighty flare]

but you're including the usage of lycath hunt which throws out the worry of wasting energy

[grave cloak]

yup.

[mighty flare]

so whats the point then of high duration to not waste energy

[grave cloak]

less micromanagement needed

[mighty flare]

what micromanagement is there? 10 extra seconds on a recastable ability inexchange to make her a 2 ability frame again

[grave cloak]

yes.

you ever did hour long runs before? you may not cast your abilities at exact timing after a while. which is why less micromanagement needed is still useful.

[mighty flare]

ive done several

on valkyr? yes especially

[grave cloak]

and you cast on time always?

[mighty flare]

yes?

[hexed sundial]

if i get a toxin cyte 09 resupply ammo pack while using toxic lash do i basically get double the toxin procs

or should i use another element

[grave cloak]

well that's good for you then because I tend to forget casting after a while tbh and I end up missing ability windows by a few seconds

[mighty flare]

use electric

[hexed sundial]

why tho

[grave cloak]

if you're comfortable with just a primed continuity by all means

[mighty flare]

access to primed electric mods and primary electric shards

[mighty flare]

so just use eternal war then

[hexed sundial]

what if im using a secondary

[mighty flare]

its less modding space

[mighty flare]

which one

[grave cloak]

not necessarily? duration also reduces energy drain from her 4 iirc

[hexed sundial]

ocucor

[mighty flare]

the drain is irrelevant if you were running neutral/positive eff or using an energy econ subsume for neg efficiency
eternal war also reduces energy usage because you're not recasting every minute
it adds up remember? like you said

[hexed sundial]

also if i have shards, isn't it better to double down into toxin

[grave cloak]

it's more so comfort for me tbh to not let the energy drain from the 4 get so "out of control"

[mighty flare]

so dont use blind rage then

efficiency is more efficient at lowering the drain

[grave cloak]

my +99% strength though :(

[mighty flare]

valkyr doesnt need high strength

[grave cloak]

it increases the buffs from her 2

[mighty flare]

doesnt matter after a point

[grave cloak]

maybe but it's still more a comfort thing ig

[mighty flare]

the scenario you are describing

high duration to offset negative efficiency

does not sound comfortable

you are jumping through more hoops

[grave cloak]

well it does work

[mighty flare]

3 duration mods to offset 1 negative efficiency mod

doesnt make sense when you could break it down into 1 duration mod and a different strength mod

[mighty flare]

cyte has higher potential with primary elec% than toxin%
if you wanna do that, might as well use oraxia/saryn

[hexed sundial]

i am using saryn

sorry if i didnt clarify

using a cyte specter to provide resupply and stacking it with toxic lash

[mighty flare]

oh i see
i was confused by your wording

[mighty flare]

yes if ur usin saryn use toxin% shards and at least 1 corrosive stack shard

[hexed sundial]

ya but what element should i use on the specter's resupply

[mighty flare]

i do not remember the interaction of lashed weapon getting resupply sorry

[sacred sapphire]

which is good?

[hexed sundial]

all good

[mighty flare]

okay

so its just 2 extra instances that dont interact

you dont buff lash with toxic resupply

[hexed sundial]

oh

so neither buffs the other

i should just go blast or smth

[copper zodiac]

which is better?

i use arca plasmor

[mighty flare]

i mean i just wouldnt bother using specters to buff saryn/cyte
they deal so much damage on their own its really not necessary

[mighty flare]

elementalist is just a bonus to dot damage like toxin/slash/heat procs

[copper zodiac]

00000 so i am dumb
Ravage is just better than

lemme show u my build rq

[mighty flare]

its not another element mod or dmg%

[copper zodiac]

Oh yeah it says status dmg so i am just dumb

[hexed sundial]

yes but as a pro (not) warframe optimizer meta slop user i must optimize everything to do big number and activate neuron goo goo gaga

[half robin]

guys is a burston prime riven w/:

100% MS
171% DMG
121% CD

good for 500p? Someone's selling it to me

[granite ginkgo]

yes it nice,just not good - issues is no negative stat

negative stat in riven boost the positive stats digit

[mighty flare]

since ur using mercs, you would actually replace point blank with shotgun elementalist if ur doing an electric dot dps build
is this for general usage or with a specific frame?

[copper zodiac]

Genral use

[copper zodiac]

I was not making a electric build but u just put on a purple shard cause why not

Does ur make the build worse?

[mighty flare]

no but if the frame is using primary elec% shards, you should just go all into that

would offload fire rate to arcane tempo / reinforced bond to fit the primed charged shell

or offload viral

[half robin]

guys is a burston prime riven w/:

165.2% CD
170.9% CC
115.3% Heat

-55.1% RS

(note that I really want the minus RS)
good for 425p? I got another offer

[granite ginkgo]

damn nice both cc and cd, and since u want that neg sure

tho the heat gonna be issues to combo element

[half robin]

I thought heat is fine though since it primarily uses that

[quasi flower]

anyone got a good boar build?

[agile vortex]

What stats should I focus on with Chroma Prime?

[pseudo orbit]

Would 2 green shards with the corrosive stack buff be better than 2 purples with ability damage for a summoner volt build? Idk if sand kavats damage count as ability damage so

[midnight horizon]

can't you use both?

[steep berry]

Hey I had a question regarding to protea abilities but first can anyone explain me what exactly the term synergy means?

[charred gale]

pretty much 2 things that work well together

[pseudo orbit]

This is what you would call synergy

[steep berry]

Okaaay so uk protea has an augment or idk just saw youtubers that her drones following her shooting enemies and it's timer paused

[pseudo orbit]

My sand kavats are going around spreading corrosive with each hit, but shocking speed makes an aoe around them that also spreads it

[steep berry]

No idea what is happening here I'm kinda new u see

[pseudo orbit]

5 sand cats (and a dog in armor) just emptied a room alone

[steep berry]

Does this happen?

[steep berry]

Ooooh

Heloo..?

[pseudo orbit]

One sec

[steep berry]

Ooooh

Until the duration on 4th ability 2nd ability duration get paused right? What if I replace 4th with roar

Will it still be in effect?

[hollow fable]

ooh how do i increase the rank?

oh nvm

i js realised i havent maxxed out my sevagoth yet

[mellow nest]

No, the duration runs out but the Artillery stays active until the 4th is canceled or runs out

If you replace the 4th then this augment doesnt do anything

Its not connected to the 4th ability slot but to Temporal Anchor

[vapid gulch]

Volt prime nuke build with ability 4 only?

[thin helm]

What mod should I use for my last mod on my Laetum?

[open relic]

kronen prime with elemental and fury or crit and fury ?

[worthy siren]

how do i build sev? ignore aura mod i just formaed(?) it

[vapid pivot]

Does fracturing crush on mag affects hemocyte for armor reduction?

[worthy siren]

apparently yes?

[dusty dragon]

im thinking of replacing one of these mods with galv savvy

which one goes?

[severe bough]

Range str a bit duration and any current way to shield gate

[analog stirrup]

Hunter munitions if you realy want it.

That negative tho...

[dusty dragon]

Being compensated for with elementalist

Another version of the build swapped out elementalist and HM for savvy + the radiation/mag size mod

[worthy siren]

something like this?

[analog stirrup]

Would just swap hunter's with a full elemental honestly

Would gain more out of it