lore-discussion

[strange plinth]

Drifter: The Angels were coming, breaking through the walls, and I had nowhere to run. I had the book, then I just remember thinking ‘This is where I can be safe.'
eleanor, r4c5

[fast dew]

Fear was the first emotion

[rigid compass]

istg yall be switching up like crazy

[restive river]

Drifter just saw their parents die, their possible sibling, now suddenly alone on that derelict of a ship
I’d be having a panic attack too

[fast dew]

You can. Feel multiple emotions at once

Fear just being the most prominent

[pale cedar]

Well look how Wally changed the script on that

[restive river]

I mean fear does relate a lot to Wally but I’ve always believed him to be more than that
Albrecht calls himself a void before heading in and I think that’s important for what Wally believes he is

[twin wigeon]

i should crop this

[fast dew]

Yes you should

[rigid compass]

500 "albrechts fear" 😡

[restive river]

500 nestawood

[twin wigeon]

i have a funny idea give me a sec

[fast dew]

Right now I feel mildly annoyed, but I also feel tired, I also feel excited because I get to go out today

Multiple feelings happening at once, but one has a higher priority

[rigid compass]

wheres the 500 "albrechts emotions" ducky?

[rigid compass]

so how about instead of fear u say emotions cause theres a big difference

[pale cedar]

I wonder what feeling multiple emotions at once feels like because Alexithymia just gives me the same stomach ache

[fast dew]

No?

[restive river]

Have you checked
Beneath your chair?

[rigid compass]

if it was albrechts fear we would have sythel 2.0 (chronologically 1.0)

[fast dew]

When we say CE was triggered by fear, It generally is triggered by fear, but other emotions can and have affected it

[restive river]

Sythel isn’t an embodiment of fear though, she’s a representation of what fear does

[fast dew]

Mhm

[rigid compass]

which wouldve been wally

[fast dew]

All the courtiers are like that

[restive river]

Sythel is based off of an existing concept, she’s arguably more concrete
Everything Wally is, including fear is not based off any concrete concepts

[restive river]

CE isn’t just about emotions it’s also about CONCEPTS

[twin wigeon]

[restive river]

Sythel as a concept existed
Wally as a concept did not

[pale cedar]

What emotions triggered the Void tunnel

[fast dew]

Yeah almost as if the first word conceptual means something

[twin wigeon]

love

[restive river]

Love!

[fast dew]

Love, from memory

[restive river]

Love and wanting to be with their partner

It’s also probable that the tunnel was created when they were on Deimos still and that’s why it still exists
That or their love was so strong that the void reacted to it

[pale cedar]

Why don’t we just tell Wally we love him so he dies

[woven coyote]

Honestly the love tunnel probably wasnt triggered by the emotion love, but by the concept of love

Unless they are still conscious to have emotions inside those crystal caskets

[restive river]

It needs to be genuine though and uh
Yeah ):

[fast dew]

They... might?

[twin wigeon]

wym i love walter

[restive river]

Oooo good point!

[restive river]

Damn we sending you in first
Ig you were happy bout the whole incident damn

[fast dew]

Mm. Necraloid does imply Albrecht wouldve shown interest in it.

He

[woven coyote]

Depends if you want the existential horror of worse locked in syndrome with the added benefit of being encased in crystal

[rigid compass]

claims wally is albrechts fear CE
Worm says "say albrechts emotions"
says albrechts emotions caused wally but fear was the "main" one and that u can feel several emotions
doesnt admit he switched up after realzing he wrong

[twin wigeon]

i mean yeah gave us powers and a kingdom, whats not to love

[pale cedar]

What if it is genuine but not in the way he thinks

[fast dew]

Albrecht shouldve known about it, shouldn't he? The tunnel formed around the time of the biobomb, something Loid was around for

[strange plinth]

Lotus: "Do you know the story of Belric and Rania? Lovers whose guardian Warframe tried to save them by encasing them in her crystal. It is their remains and the connection forged between them that you are protecting."

also this. less related but interesting line from otak

Otak: "Infestation can't eat crystal. So what do you do when your pals are gonna be eaten? Turn 'em into crystals!"

[woven coyote]

The tunnel only formed after the cyrstals were stolen and separated

[rigid compass]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-black-guys-two-black-guys-apple-apple-laptop-gif-3090298217787114336

[restive river]

Trauma
Dead parents
Child getting forced to go to war
Many others dead
Terrorized your exact kingdom
Tried to rewrite over it with a bad fanfic

[twin wigeon]

😛 Sacrifices exist to be made etc etc

[woven coyote]

Tunnel wouldnt really work if the crystals were still together after all, since it is a tunnel between them

[fast dew]

Yeah no dude that aint working

Its called explaining yourself. You would benefit from it instead of trying to say something wrong was a joke. That's not an explanation. It's called an excuse

Get better.

[twin wigeon]

-# youre not wrong tho

[restive river]

Ok so that makes me think the void is reacting to their love despite them not being inside it

[fast dew]

Hrmm

[rigid compass]

counter point the drip goes hard and if he didnt do that we would still be wearing those zariman suits

[restive river]

That or after being ferried off they were exposed to enough void energy

[umbral mist]

when i first saw razuul in veilbreaker i thought it was erra then the thing turn around and have an acron sharp in the skull

[restive river]

Yup!

[pale cedar]

I should loophole Wally and tell him I love him for the powers but keep the other part secret so he dies from love

[twin wigeon]

Pazuul is Erra with a goat on his head

[woven coyote]

I mean solar rails i suppose

[restive river]

That’s Pazuul
He took our uncle

[twin wigeon]

Ram*

[restive river]

Exactly
Cause I don’t think it’d be the crystals themselves lol

They were either expoed enough to the void or their love is that powerful
Er
The concept of their love lol

[pale cedar]

Void angels are honestly useless because Wally still isn’t free

[fast dew]

Xata..

[restive river]

Void angels are useless cause I have never seen bro direct them and they’d be an actual threat

I really want a shot where Wally coordinates the angels and it just pans to a literal army of them

[woven coyote]

Just like all the kuva syphons break in transit back to the fortress so funny worm can never gather enough kuva

[twin wigeon]

Theyre trying their best but thirty five thousand of the gambling liquid is better

[strange plinth]

Otak: "They say the two are connected through the Void to this day!"
Loid: "What would our old master had made of that?"

[restive river]

Mmm
Tastes like iron and
Yaoi?

[rigid compass]

alright buddy i EXPLAINED its a joke. just cause u cant tell its a joke doesnt mean it wasnt.
second u cant just say that it was albrechts fear and then change to emotions and expect me to know it was emotions when all u said before and told me was fear. fear is a single emotion even if it was 80% fear 20% other emotions u shouldve been saying emotions. then u cant just say im wrong after u change what ur talking about and not admit that u were wrong in misinforming me

[fast dew]

Whatever yaoi tastes like

[pale cedar]

They say Kuva is rare but I beat up a mugger and they had 1 million of it in their bag

[woven coyote]

There is a song/legend about them after all, so the concept angle is pretty darn viable

[restive river]

It’s the concept of yaoi

[twin wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786650808321048596/1505296506792444046/image2.gif

[fast dew]

Even as a certified enjoyer im. Unsure of what that would taste like

[restive river]

Aah, so it’s not just their love for one another but the concept of their love has been spread as a story!
The tunnel makes even more sense now lol

[twin wigeon]

oh right thomas is this the crop you wanted or

[rigid compass]

"its a very rare rock bruce"

[fast dew]

Yeah I got it dw

[pale cedar]

You actually get the reference?

[woven coyote]

Amd the corpus side is on a ship so solar rail fits even better

[fast dew]

Was gonna acknowledge it but worm said something dumb

[twin wigeon]

wyrm

wurm

[restive river]

Multiple factors?
One part their story/song
other part they took a brief dip in the void while seperated

[pale cedar]

I wanna see a Void Angel fight a Wyrm

[woven coyote]

Wyrm would fold soooooo fast

[rigid compass]

"its a very rare liquid tenno" - teshin
"rare my ass i beat up a mugger and he had like 3 gallons of it" - operator
"and we got the red kuva, blue kuva, and pink kuva" - operator
"we dont talk about the pink kuva" - teshin

[woven coyote]

Those things barelly do anything once you cling to them

[restive river]

The pink kuva allows transfer to animals

[woven coyote]

And angels have hooked hands

[twin wigeon]

and can fly

[restive river]

Perfect for latching on lol

[rigid compass]

imagine we could see a eidolon come out at night and rip apart a tusk thumper

[woven coyote]

Well we have seen them tp not exactly fly

But either works

[restive river]

That would actually go insane as a scene, a hoard of angels just
Eating an entire Orowyrm

[twin wigeon]

in the uhhhh zariman quest Kira flew

[pale cedar]

Pink Kuva is how the Orokin swap orientation

[restive river]

I think they were all just pan bud

[twin wigeon]

sideways orokin

[woven coyote]

Would be the first and last time an eidolon wouldbe usefull

[restive river]

Gender wasn’t real and they could swap bodies freely if they wanted
They could call anyone they wanted

[pale cedar]

In Orokin society you can go from gay to not gay with some Kuva

[strange plinth]

diagonal orokin

[restive river]

Idk if it’d change a fundamental aspect of them that can just be fluid lol

[twin wigeon]

gender... fluid

[rigid compass]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-blackbeard-writing-taking-notes-writing-gif-17583038544116987898

[pale cedar]

If it works for pink Krptonite it works for Kuva trust

[restive river]

The fluid that makes you gender (cost of one innocent)

[woven coyote]

Still waiting for the launch of gender spice

[restive river]

Didn’t that swap gender not orientation?

[rigid compass]

im waiting for gender solid

[restive river]

I want gender plasma

[woven coyote]

Nah noone wants that

[pale cedar]

Pink swaps orientation making you gay

[woven coyote]

Was deemed by investors as non profitable

[rigid compass]

orientation in early comics but some new show made it swap genders

[pale cedar]

It’s done both

[twin wigeon]

-#

[pale cedar]

Depending on writer

[woven coyote]

Gender non newtonian fluid

[restive river]

Or if you were gay, straight
But also it isn’t a binary exactly, what about being aroace? Or bi? Or pan?

[restive river]

Yesss

[twin wigeon]

this is why DE doesnt like talking to us

[restive river]

Yeah ):

[rigid compass]

gender bose einstein condensate

[woven coyote]

What do you mean, rebb is one of us

[pale cedar]

I think it was written before LGBT was a thing so we haven’t got that answer

[twin wigeon]

Ducky...

[woven coyote]

Always remember the time rebb ate a card on stream

[rigid compass]

doesnt matter but aroace would make u pan ig idk

or bi maybe

[twin wigeon]

🍳

pan

[rigid compass]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cursed-brainrot-hands-meme-sozVLoj67TJYUIhgy6

[restive river]

It wasn’t written before it was a thing
It’s always been a thing

Something tells me the pink kryptonite is just homophobic/transphobic lol

[woven coyote]

Rebb is DE, rebb is one of us, so DE would totally like talking to us

[twin wigeon]

im saying i think Ducky is Rebb

[pale cedar]

I mean before it was a big movement back when people had to be it in secret

[twin wigeon]

for sure

[restive river]

Opposites of the spectrum ig
Messed up

[rigid compass]

big shocker a comic from the 80s-90s or earlier could be phobic

[restive river]

Ah
Yeah
):

[restive river]

They were everything phobic 😔

[twin wigeon]

how does one be homophobic do they just like scream in terror when someone tells them theyre gay

or is that the one where theyre scared of water

i can never remember

[rigid compass]

if your everyone phobic ur no one phobic. just a hater

[restive river]

It is a weird word cause it makes you think they’d be afraid of it lol

[woven coyote]

This convo reminded me i should finish watching the ian mckellen interview i was watching

[restive river]

And being a hater is lame
Don’t be lame

[rigid compass]

its like spiders u are scared of them so u try to kill it 🤷

but theres laws

[twin wigeon]

imagine being scared of Loid, and then you remember:
-# [insert loidframe gif]

[restive river]

I’m scared of them and I don’t try to kill them

[rigid compass]

coward

[woven coyote]

Spiders are friend shaped

[restive river]

Bro what
It’s more than there’s laws, killing someone for their orientation or for ant reason beyond their control is just morally evil 😭

[restive river]

Said the lame guy

[twin wigeon]

im scared of spiders only when im conscious

[rigid compass]

why im lame?

[twin wigeon]

when i get eepy all caution is thrown to the wind

[restive river]

They’re cute when they aren’t moving and also up close
But when they’re tiny and moving
No
I’m out

[restive river]

You bein’ a hater?
If yes, lame 😔

[twin wigeon]

also when theyre big and moving

[rigid compass]

honestly i could talk about how morality works but im not dealing with yall

[woven coyote]

Spiders are good because insects are annoying
Spiders get rid of annoying
So spider is friend shaped

[rigid compass]

when was i a hater?

[twin wigeon]

Oraxia used to be friendshaped ;-;

[restive river]

Ok buddy
You ain’t ever gonna have an actual argument to killing someone for reasons beyond their control

[rigid compass]

still is

[woven coyote]

Oraxia is confuse shaped now

[twin wigeon]

no some spooky wall made her spooki

[rigid compass]

thats not what im saying but ok

[restive river]

It was a question
Are you being a hater
If yes it’s lame lol

[restive river]

Oh
Good :)

[rigid compass]

oh. well i hate on protos so ye im lame 😔

[restive river]

I’m happy they did Oraxia how they did her

Still technically a spider while not having those 8 freaky legs

[restive river]

Damn 😔
Hope you feel better soon

[twin wigeon]

we love DE

[rigid compass]

i meant an arguement about how morality works and that it isnt a objective thing.

[woven coyote]

Talking about spiders reminds me of how i wish i coulda have a snake

Except i cant handle the whole feeding them dead rats thing

[rigid compass]

[rigid compass]

get one that eats eggs

[woven coyote]

Get your oraxia today! Now with only half the freaky legs!

[twin wigeon]

speaking of

should i get oraxia again

[restive river]

[restive river]

Yay!

[restive river]

Do you need her helminth or?

[twin wigeon]

helminthed my first one

[restive river]

Idr how her helminth fairs but she as a frame is good

[twin wigeon]

good enough for me

[restive river]

Lotsa bein’ on walls

[rigid compass]

only 145 plat 30% sale. only at darvo deals

[restive river]

She’s fast!

[twin wigeon]

so ye or ne

yk ill get her any way

just need some dreadful tasoma

[fast dew]

Its not that bad, you don't need to do it every day

[woven coyote]

Problem is i also like rats

[fast dew]

Ah :(

You can feed them other things!

[woven coyote]

Generally love all critters

Except insects

[fast dew]

Apparently quails are quite fatty for them but all in moderation is fine

[woven coyote]

Insecst are too constant a nuisance

[fast dew]

I like all creatures

[restive river]

RATS!!!

[woven coyote]

Speaking of critters my cat is meowing at my window brb

[strange plinth]

need a ratframe

[woven coyote]

Points at lettie

[fast dew]

For me, killing an animal has to have purpose. I cannot stand hunters who kill just for the sake of killing

[restive river]

I need an armor piece that’s just one of those lil rats

Like gillychap

[fast dew]

Something something tennogen signa

[restive river]

Respectable
Do you do anything to respect the animal other than ensure that they’re used purposefully?

Do you use like
All of the bones nd everything, the non-edible bits?

[fast dew]

Mm, depends on what you mean respect? We sing about them, dance as them

[restive river]

That’s pretty respectful sounding

[fast dew]

Oh yeah great for chickens, good calcium if you grind them up

[restive river]

Ok, that’s good
No waste and you’re respectful about it
That’s the way to go

[fast dew]

Yeah I'd be a disappointment to native Australians everywhere if I wasn't respectful 😭

[restive river]

Animals deserve so much respect for what they do and give us

[fast dew]

The only bits I really struggle with are the entrails but I do kinda just feed the majority of them to the dogs

[restive river]

No waste at least

[fast dew]

We also feed them our steak bones, as a treat

Have you ever tried kangaroo? It's quite nice

[restive river]

I have not

Off the top of my head the weirdest thing I’ve had is probably haggis?

[fast dew]

Its like a leaner beef, from memory

[restive river]

Neat

[fast dew]

I've

Eaten crocodile

[restive river]

My partner’s had gator lol

[fast dew]

Emu eggs too, that was nice

Theyre huge!!

[restive river]

Kiwi?

[fast dew]

No, kiwis aren't from here, but id imagine they taste similar

[restive river]

Actually wild that we don’t have a kiwi equivalent in warframe btw
They look like a vallis creature

[fast dew]

They sound like one

Have you heard... I believe the female's call?

[restive river]

With how they lay eggs I’d totally believe that they’re an Orokin monstrosity

[restive river]

Nope

[rigid compass]

Without context this makes u sound like a incel

[woven coyote]

Hell just put them as is,their biology is perfectly screwed to fit in with warframe creatures

[fast dew]

Ill send you the post, the subreddit has a bad word in it 💔

[restive river]

I recall a long time ago a content creator (whom i shall not name) made a warframe video in the style of National Geographic
I think Coolkid made a similar one recently too?
Anyway, I’d love if we had something similar in the game with the business or something

[restive river]

Okay

[fast dew]

Difference being im actually a voluntary celibate lol

[restive river]

I love bird calls :]

[rigid compass]

[restive river]

Oh yeah I have heard this!
Love this lil bird

[fast dew]

Its such a creature sound

[restive river]

Actual warframe creature

[fast dew]

I'm asexual.

[rigid compass]

Best bird calls:

1. Pua ah
2. Puah
   3.puaaah

[restive river]

You may want to update your bio lol

[fast dew]

OH

Shit

Made that thing 3 years ago ill be so deadass

Not like worm can see it tho

[woven coyote]

Nope best bird call is
revs chainsaw

[fast dew]

... a lyrebird?

[restive river]

Shoebill :)

[fast dew]

Actually are yall aware of the lyrebird?

[restive river]

https://tenor.com/view/shoebill-bird-gif-3440247

[fast dew]

SHOEBILLS ARE SO CUTE

BIG OL DUDE

[woven coyote]

That's the one most people know but iirc there are a few others that mimic chainsaws because of lumberjacks

[restive river]

I love the animals of our world :)

[woven coyote]

The left out dinosaur

[restive river]

Good way to scare everyone off ig

[fast dew]

Yeah it. Is very sad when you think a bit about it. Birds learn sounds like that from repeat exposure :(

[restive river]

Not left out in my heart of hearts

[woven coyote]

The one the meteor forgot

But yeah shoebills are funny looking

[fast dew]

I just love big birds

Emus are so funny looking

Like okay mop 😭

You sir are a mop with a silly lookin head and legs

https://tenor.com/view/emu-jump-freakout-gif-5329771

Go my worm

[woven coyote]

The one rule i'd say is dont let the brittish name them, just like australians shouldnt name spiders (nah that newcastle bigboy was great)

[fast dew]

Worm on a string..

[fast dew]

We cannot name things seriously its so bad 😭

[rigid compass]

https://tenor.com/view/thragg-invincible-angry-viltrum-vilt-ru-mite-gif-1887216231996431779

[restive river]

I kinda hope that we get more companions eventually
Like
Imagine a sentinel style companion but it’s just a condroc
Or a moa style companion but it’s just an emu

[fast dew]

What does that even mean

[restive river]

You put him on a string

[woven coyote]

The long awaited bird companion

[fast dew]

Give us a emu moa skin DE

[rigid compass]

The death of every worm leaves a lohk in me.

[woven coyote]

No we need a moa moa skin

[restive river]

I’ve been waiting for
What
7 years almost for a falconeer?
I’m so happy we got Xaku but where my bird bud at

[restive river]

Worm on a string isn’t a death

They’re a unique species of worm that have their whimsy setting at max

[restive river]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-worms-worms-on-a-string-jingle-jam-jinglejam-gif-14441517727257660830

[restive river]

Dino frend

[woven coyote]

Deep rock is gonna get a falconer before warframe lol

[rigid compass]

Robotic animal and sentient companions infested too what could be next

[restive river]

Maybe we can still get one this year

That fall update could be ANYTHING

[restive river]

I do want new sentinels with Tau

[woven coyote]

Nah too late
Deep rock rogue core will have a falconer in early access next week

[rigid compass]

I dont see that happening

[restive river]

Actually give us more lore
Are they sentient puppies?

[rigid compass]

Archon sentient companions lowkey

[restive river]

Lmao
I figured they would get theirs first, just thinking if we could get one this year

[rigid compass]

Animal sentient companions

[woven coyote]

Yeah that codex entry is too suspicious

[rigid compass]

Amar btw

[restive river]

I don’t either but I would not complain if it happened

We’re overdue for a new companion

[restive river]

That’s what I’m saying!!!

Idc that they can look extra weird and not sentienty-
They could to some extent be an offshoot of mimics for all we know

[woven coyote]

Would be very funny if they were mimic spy drones like that penguin from subnautica below zero

[restive river]

Actually
That’s an idea
All sentinels are fragments from Natah and they love us cause she love us
ofc this doesn’t actually work or make sense but it’s a nice thought lol

[rigid compass]

Personally I feel like companions has also become one of those things DE abandoned cause companions dont have much going for them other than their precepts and the current ones kinda cover all bases

[restive river]

from mimic to fren

[restive river]

I do see them typically used as status spreaders or just dealing big damage
My favorite rn has got to be shade since their mechanic like. Does something

[rigid compass]

Sentinels are basically just the opposite to eidolons

[restive river]

Not to say any of the others are bad ofc

[restive river]

Maybe!

[rigid compass]

Both are fragments of dead sentients which I believe each sentient has their own hivemind and the death of the main body makes the rest go on their own so they just do wtv

[woven coyote]

Might
We have no clue what sentinels actually are

Even the codex basically just says "yeah they kinda just showed up and were kinda helpfull"

[rigid compass]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-mark-gif-17005200005838445693

[restive river]

“They kinda look like sentients but idk dude, they’re cute and nice tho”

[woven coyote]

"See he even makes coffee!"

[rigid compass]

Taxon when he becomes the leader of the sentients after we get to tau and have to leave him behind like ash with charizard

[woven coyote]

That series is so doodoo

[rigid compass]

We know that they're sentients and we just call them sentinels I believe

[woven coyote]

Nope

[restive river]

You don’t understand
Ash never getting Misty her bike was vital to the plot!

[fast dew]

God ash was insufferable

[woven coyote]

Was talking about the invincible punching bag

[restive river]

All of the sentinel lore btw

[fast dew]

Can't exactly say he's the most punchable man I've met

[restive river]

OH LOL

[ashen pulsar]

invincible is?

[fast dew]

The animation looks

Bad

[restive river]

The most recent season was uh
Not great

[restive river]

They literally just need a bigger budget for animation
That’s it

[ashen pulsar]

I havent watched beyond s2 so idk

[woven coyote]

Yeah really unentertaining series that tries to look tough by putting a lot of entrails on screen

[rigid compass]

I've seen bigger stretches made by yall than me saying they sentients which they are.

[fast dew]

As is most bad animation cases. I can see the potential

[restive river]

It genuinely gets exhausting
It’s a similar reason as to why I dropped the boys which
I have heard is crashing and burning LOL

[woven coyote]

Would be funny if they were perintols prototypes that escaped his lab

[ashen pulsar]

I've enjoyed season 1 and 2, dont know anything about the later ones

[rigid compass]

Who?

[fast dew]

Other times the comic/manga just makes it impossible to actually animate anything
-# love you Tokyo ghoul but holy shit that artstyle would SUCK to animate

[fast dew]

Ah.. balls. Been meaning to get into it.

[restive river]

It absolutely has potential and they def save the budget for bigger moments but
Damn
The last season was not it, the end was good enough but man they need a better budget

[restive river]

New theory dropped
It’s a banger

[restive river]

I dropped it mostly due to the amount of excess gore for no reason

[fast dew]

Cecil can get it tho. All I know about invincible is Cecil can get it

[woven coyote]

Diy lab assistants, and thats why they are naturally helpfull

[restive river]

I watched one of the recent episodes cause it had the supernatural crew
And
Man it was so bad lol

[restive river]

I want this to be real now ):

[rigid compass]

They could be sentients with completely different programming and just straight up dumber or basically a cousin species to the sentients

[restive river]

It’s def not even superhero fatigue or anything
Show just is dookie

[fast dew]

See I think im fine with how doom does gore because

Its hell. It kinda needs it, and its done in a campy sort of way where it's not really realistic, other times it. Just sucks. Not a fan of glory kills

[restive river]

That’s basically my sentinel puppy theory lol

[restive river]

I think it helps that neither doom nor warframe are overly realistic
Like
Invincible isn’t either ofc but it’s just kinda. Ok ig this is happening
And with the boys it is realistic and I’m sorry but as a human being I can only take so much of seeing a dude cut in half or seeing a dude blow up his boyfriend from the inside out 😭

It’s just too much, made to be too realistic and the plot just ain’t it

[fast dew]

Yeah!

[restive river]

I’m not even squeamish about it!
It’s just over the top just cause! There’s no point!

At least in Warframe when I cut a dude in half I’m not feeling sick!

[fast dew]

I get that. Realistic series needs to make it in a certain way so it doesnt wig out the viewer [think like how hannibal [show] does it], its never really. Super explicit all the time

[woven coyote]

In doom it is actual war and battle

The boys and punchable they just include it for the shock value (and even then most of them return like it is nothing so it becomes pointless)

[fast dew]

Exactly!

The gore in doom has lore behind it

Its literally just the suffering of humans being exploited by a mega corporation/religion for their own gain

[restive river]

I like evil dead cause the amount of blood makes it unrealistic and thus funny

[rigid compass]

The gore in most things have organs behind it -_-

[fast dew]

That has a message behind it!

[restive river]

YES EXACTLY
Also
punchable LOL

[fast dew]

-# oh but dooms not political guys!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!

[ocean geyser]

they have like 4 animators iirc

[woven coyote]

Like that one superman movie that was more violent and superman killed i think zod
It was cool because there were consequences not just to the main characters but to the people around

The boys and punchable never have consequence to anything

[fast dew]

4??????

[ocean geyser]

yeah

[fast dew]

WHA TTHE SHIT

THOSE POOR PEOPLE

WHAT IS THE BUDGET BEING BLOWN ON???

[rigid compass]

Wait till bro finds out about anime

[restive river]

That explains a lot tbh
I respect them for what they can put out, especially those bigger scenes
But it’s really hurting the show

[woven coyote]

I mean the title of that series is a very sad joke because all that character does is fail miserably

[ocean geyser]

Amazon's tryna minmax profit unfortunately

[restive river]

So
Not how it works here
The animation side just has a small budget, it’s not one big shared budget

[ocean geyser]

yeah VA and animation get two seperate budgets

[rigid compass]

Thats kinda exactly how it works

[restive river]

Many people blame it on the many famous actors but I’ve seen an animator say that isn’t the issue

[fast dew]

Ahh see i was. Using the way budgets are used in care 😭

[ocean geyser]

me when the seperate budgets were confirmed

[restive river]

Real lmao
I think my favorite episode from the last season is the one where he was barely in it tbh

[fast dew]

My only real experience with something like that

[rigid compass]

The animation director must be embezzeling the budget cause how u gonna have high budget and only 4 animators

[dark compass]

They hire extremely good animators and artists for teasers and then the show itself is eating scraps

[rigid compass]

Or whoever is in charge

[restive river]

Yeah I was unaware that they were separate
The problem is just Amazon is dookie

[dark compass]

Because animation Industry is hell

Only industry worse in the same vein is CGI

[fast dew]

You get big numbers, and the number is then sliced down for something smaller and smaller and smaller. So like. Here's 26k for 2 years and its. Cut down further into separate things

[woven coyote]

Insert always has been meme

[restive river]

Second to last episode they actually used a lot of the budget
And it was good
But the early part of the season was so bad

[restive river]

Mmhm

[fast dew]

Shout out VFX artists not really having unions so they get taken advantage of more

[woven coyote]

Amazon should have stuck to being a marketplace because all their attempts at branching out were utter garbage

[fast dew]

Hey the Fotv was decent

[ocean geyser]

Secret Level was also good
mostly

[restive river]

I’m p sure almost every show they’ve put out that starts out good ends up being not so good by the end

I liked upload enough when it first came out but man
It just kept going
And going
And it did not need to

[dark compass]

All I know about invincible animation team is that teasers are directed by some very famous nsfw artist

[restive river]

I watched like 3 of those

[ocean geyser]

because they start trying to milk it once they notice it gets attention

[fast dew]

-# Still pissed Microsoft refused a doom/halo collab with each other

[restive river]

What was up with pacman there lol
It was cool but why

[dark compass]

[woven coyote]

Not even just the shows
Look at twitch, look at their game division

[restive river]

I’m shocked upload got that much attention LOL

[fast dew]

The guy who designs the ultrakill plushies is known for their infamous duke/dude comic lmao

[restive river]

True!
I saw they forced some devs to use AI for a few years, wanted it to be this big game, scrapped it and laid off a bunch of devs across the board

[dark compass]

I can't wait when they'll start regurgitating Invincible as a live action 1 hour long 8 episodes per season series

[fast dew]

Proud to say I own all 4 of those plushies

[dark compass]

It was straight up just a series of commercials

Insane how they sold it as an actual series

Even pacman was a backdoor trailer for a new game

What was armored core doing there I cannot fathom

Fromsoft couldn't give less of a shit either

Probably Bandai Namco trying to squeeze the last juice

[woven coyote]

Secret level afaik didnt really even try to stick to their source material (as usual)

[fast dew]

Oh maybe that's why Microsoft refused a collaboration for doom and halo....

[dark compass]

Oh? It mostly did

The only time it didn't it was a commercial for an upcoming product that it did align with

[ocean geyser]

for the most part they did

the D&D one
The Warhammer one

i dont remember how accurate Unreal Tournament was

[fast dew]

I wouldve actually rather murder John Romero if they did do it

Doom is really hard to adapt into film. For some reason

Not for lack of trying

[dark compass]

Pacman was a trailer for a game with that visual style, Concord was a new live service season trailer(lol, lmao)

[fast dew]

-# annihilation you will not be missed

[woven coyote]

I see
Had only heard complaints through the grapevine since i dont really have any streaming subscriptions

[fast dew]

Best I got is stan tbh

[dark compass]

Most people talked about how weird and insane pacman episode was

Turns out it was a trailer for a new game so like

Ok

[woven coyote]

Hmmm now i wonder who would be doomguy
Maybe bautista? Think he has the more rounded physique of doomguy

[fast dew]

Last time they did it they uh

Used The Rock

Which. Maybe the body shape sure

[woven coyote]

Wasnt that back when he had hair?

[dark compass]

Michael Shannon

[stiff fable]

New World makes me mad because it was a few months away from breaking out big time

[dark compass]

Seriously

[fast dew]

Yeah but like

Not the right hair

[woven coyote]

I mean he never had the right hair

[fast dew]

What was that criminally offensive haircut.

[ocean geyser]

The Rock is also
The Rock, unfortunately

[fast dew]

Not even the doom 2 haircut

Which was equally as atrocious

[fast dew]

Lemme see hold on

[ocean geyser]

although i think he was more chill back then
Nowadays he's really weird with stuff he's in

[fast dew]

I can appreciate him being open with his Polynesian culture tho

[dark compass]

He played Zodd in man of steel

[fast dew]

Mm. Yeah I can see it

Depends on when and what the live action is for

[dark compass]

.

Oh well

[fast dew]

New models show doomguy was rather young when he first joined the marines [shown by the model in TDA, which is the earliest model we have that isnt. Pixels and the dubiously canon quake model]

[dark compass]

I know like 5 actors total

And 9 of them are voice actors

[fast dew]

No no i can see him as older doomguy

[dark compass]

[fast dew]

Young doomguy looks like Ben Stiller, specifically zoolander Ben Stiller

[dark compass]

The curse of videogame adaptations is that in 99% of cases they're directed by boomers on a paycheck who think videogames are for children and don't deserve to be treated with care

Give or take them agreeing only to do their own thing and getting a videogame ip being their only way to get money for that

[fast dew]

Actually on slayer's club live the devs were talking about it, they said they want Markiplier to make it

[dark compass]

If Jacksepticeye became a producer for a Bloodborne animated movie

Who knows anymore

[fast dew]

And. If you aren't aware, Mark is a super fan of the doom series, big big fan. His dad is actually referenced in eternal

[woven coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-zoolander-movie-movie-zoolander-ben-stiller-benstiller-gif-12169139201078736959

[fast dew]

Now look at him, its just a wider Ben Stiller

[dark compass]

Ben Wider

[fast dew]

Oh...

[woven coyote]

Lol who messed with the aspect ratio

[fast dew]

I wish I thought of that...

Still not over someone trying to convince me that doomguy has. Black hair

[woven coyote]

Funnier because i was watching a 007 everything or nothing playthrough and the aspect ratio was haunted and sometimes forced wide bond on us

[fast dew]

Oh and the most recent bullshittery I've had to deal with is people refusing to believe that classic doom was supposed to be scary

Despite. John Romero, word of god, saying outright it was supposed to be scary

[fast dew]

Me when some of my old DVDs have borked ratios 💔

In warframe news

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/QnreWcemHq

Have yall seen this fan concept of a limbo heirloom

[ocean geyser]

oh you brought the funny out

[fast dew]

I CANT NOT SHARE IT

[ocean geyser]

oh no go on

chat its time to stare at men 👍

[dark compass]

V2 looks amazing

DE do take fan concepts sometimes so

[fast dew]

Definitely my favourite

[dark compass]

Hopefully

[fast dew]

The pants splitting at the side of the thighs is sooo good

[ashen pulsar]

yeah, thats perfect

[fast dew]

The sleeves are also delightful

Big fan of the padded shoulders

Though

[fast dew]

I'd prefer V1's arm sleeves when the jacket is gone

V1 is also. Fun

I like the frills...

[restive river]

Loid wishes he could look like this

[fast dew]

I'm sure Loid could if the amount of accessories wasn't a fire risk

[restive river]

lol

[fast dew]

He was an orokin's lover, im sure Albrecht threw plenty of fancy clothes at him

[woven coyote]

Still waiting for the ember heirloom of male frames

Pose like this in captura lol

For now will have to make do with styanax deluxe

[fast dew]

xata.....

[celest needle]

Real tweet btw

[woven coyote]

I know lol

Rebb is one of us

[celest needle]

Phil Spencer could never

[restive river]

You got the seat after ember heirloom one?

[rigid compass]

https://tenor.com/view/yungviral-gif-13939729783032931857

Can heirlooms be bought with plat?

[woven coyote]

I am saying i want a male heirloom as full of features as ember

[dire mountain]

Is the confirmation of sentients being first before the zariman from the reddit q&a

[restive river]

Agreed!

[restive river]

It’s from the zariman tablet in duviri technically but it was hard confirmed in an interview/reddit q&a iirc

7. Who is constructing the Extrasolar Rail between Pluto and Tau?

A. An elite group of loyal servants of the Seven (correct)

B. A new, hardy strain of Grineer Void Engineers

This was the first hint afaik
I know it had me wondering and once we got it confirmed it all made sense

[fast dew]

Yeah?

Iirc the full set of a heirloom would be 400 plat

[fast dew]

Actually there is a gauss heirloom fan design that ive been aware of that kinda gives that hold on

[rigid compass]

How long are they available for?

[fast dew]

Forever, the only ones that aren't available anymore are the Mag's and Frost's

[woven coyote]

Forever

DE learned that lesson again after mag and frost

[fast dew]

https://x.com/i/status/1957543217286754622

-# ew Twitter

Lua_Luminary (@Lua_Luminary)

Gauss Heirloom turnaround
#tennocreate #warframefanart #Warframe #conceptart

X · Aug 18, 2025, 8:40 PM

[rigid compass]

Oh cool so if limbo one comes out I dont worry about having to get plat quickly to get it

[woven coyote]

Nice, too bad it's for stinky gauss

[fast dew]

God I hate gauss' design

[woven coyote]

I dislike his playstyle

[fast dew]

That limbo one is just a fan concept, though he is getting around the age heirlooms happen

[dire mountain]

Gauss is awesome but hes kinda boring

[fast dew]

I feel if we give a masc frame to Liger, they'd keep us fed

Give us an heirloom on the scale of Ember

[fast dew]

Yeah also wasn't. Valkyr's design a fan design?

[rigid compass]

?????? Isnt limbo at least a decade atp im sure the others got theirs earlier

[fast dew]

Mm, they seem to be more attached to their primes

[rigid compass]

Meh its all cool

Limbo limina cool

[fast dew]

I do love limbo

[rigid compass]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-cry-omniman-cry-omniman-peak-gif-17652461541122198247

What have i done?
Ive been hating on thomas, but he loves limbo.

[fast dew]

He was my first prime :)

Should've bought the accessories...

[rigid compass]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-flying-away-gif-25395740

[restive river]

they were going to have them be on rotation but afaik they silently dropped that idea

[fast dew]

Thank God for that

[restive river]

the rotation would have been like primes but faster prob

[fast dew]

On the topic of heirlooms, Valkyr's other designs are fun

WHY DID THEY TAKE THE PANTS I JUST REALISED

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-limbo-warframe-limbo-limbo-prime-prime-gif-20418277

[rigid compass]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-gif-9760249938255555903

[rigid compass]

Few heirlooms though they could rotate em daily with 2 a day

Wait that just defeats the whole point ig

[fast dew]

Mm. Weird. Cannot find Rhino's concept art for his heirloom

Guess they never posted it

[restive river]

well it would have likely been implemented after they had more lol

tbh it could still be the plan, but I doubt it

[fast dew]

See, this is the animation I expected from invincible, not.

Whatever the shit the rest has 😭

[restive river]

the scenes that get the budget are soo good
the scenes that dont
ugh

[fast dew]

Its so disappointing

[celest needle]

Blame Amazon for hiring 4 animators and giving them a year per season

[fast dew]

A YEAR??? FOR 4 PEOPLE??

THIS JUST GETS WORSE

[celest needle]

4 people on the vfx team of this show

And on a yearly schedule

[restive river]

it is amazon's fault lol

[fast dew]

Man im gonna yar har this shit i aint supporting Amazon in their abusive endeavours

[celest needle]

It's mostly outsourced

But still 4 vfx artists on the show producing 50 minute yearly episodes

And 2 million dollars

[woven coyote]

I mean heirlooms are a very recent thing
But also arent exactly in order otherwise loki would have one already

[humble sierra]

And also aren't in order of "this character lacks skins considering how long they've been here" otherwise Banshee would've got one before Valkyr and Mesa

[glossy dew]

I personally thought heirlooms were made to give older primes a new coat of paint, since most of the heirlooms before Mesa's have been for frames whose primes look very old

[woven coyote]

If it were in order of "character lacks skins" excalibur players would be screwed lol

Poster boy has a loooooot of skins

[celest needle]

15 tennogen skins

[woven coyote]

Even not counting tennogen he still has a lot

Zato
Prisma
Proto
The other proto
Voidshell
Dex
Technically umbra if we must

Meanwhile a lot of frames have only one skin

[humble sierra]

Look it's not their fault they're a small indie company with absolutely no resources

[celest needle]

Thank heavens the line gets the time they deserve

Sirius and Orion needed the aura

[blissful wraith]

I prefer Orion because Sirius is such a wimp if the story goes like the two discovered Jade's promise. Orion saw that as an act of cowardice from his mother

[tall echo]

edgelord

[blissful wraith]

Glad I am one.

And not politically.. I think

[tall echo]

to be edgy is to be cringé

[celest needle]

Sirius is green and he can be placed there

I also play Ash

https://preview.redd.it/president-of-the-earth-part-2-v0-9nb5l8f9opzf1.jpeg?width=495&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e97b5df21bc8625fcfbef07c968bd69c13af8d74

Ryoku is also hot

[tall echo]

both of the new protos are in their own way

[blissful wraith]

Dont worry its also a DMC5 reference where Sirius wanted to honor Jade and Orion wanted to seek for more power to defend his family's legacy

So Orion is better because he's more

[fast dew]

Oh yeah. Act of cowardice. Enduring 1000+ years of torture

[tall echo]

(ignore my motto of "love me a woman that can straight up kill me" I'm totally unbiased)

[blissful wraith]

Enduring instead of finding a way to seek revenge.

[tall echo]

brother revenge for what and how

[fast dew]

Yeah do you not think she didn't do that

[celest needle]

Technically any woman can kill a person with the right tools

[blissful wraith]

Do it until it works but she didn't, Stalker didn't and instead they went into hiding and not building any resistance faction?

[fast dew]

Why do you think she was at the night of the naga drums at the first place?

[tall echo]

ok but the willingness and ease is the deciding factor

[fast dew]

Yeah

After she saved her whelp husband

[blissful wraith]

But what was jades promise after all?

[tall echo]

stalker lived under the illusion that he'd get to see jade again if he served well

[fast dew]

To see her kid be born.

[blissful wraith]

Thats it?

I want to see her witnessing her child killing each other

[fast dew]

How is jade's promise a form of cowardice? She chose to endure a thousand years of torture to maybe see her child grow up

[tall echo]

ballas taunted her with the fact that her kid would never be born

[blissful wraith]

I wish to see Orion kill her because he didn't like her while Sirius defends her

[tall echo]

jade went "nuh uh"

[blissful wraith]

I wish there would be someone to turn ballas into an armored core servitor

[fast dew]

Her child's existence is an act of revenge against ballas

A act of spite against the man

[blissful wraith]

I wish Sirius or Orion would find a way to resurrect ballas and turn him into a servitor

And when Lotus or the tenno protests it, they're ready to chop their head off

[fast dew]

The enclave pfp suddenly makes more sense.

[celest needle]

Agreeable!

[blissful wraith]

God bless America.
God bless the Enclave.

[celest needle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-writing--k01KQJ6J3MYR76W2HWDSQR9JCS5

[fast dew]

I

[celest needle]

Jade light

[fast dew]

Dont think thats what you're supposed to get out of the enclave

[tall echo]

I installed a mod for fo4 just to get to destroy the enclave again

[celest needle]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-dandelion-cat-silly-kitty-she-was-a-fairy-gif-14702056371420778419

[blissful wraith]

I love the NCR too but their incompetence against corruption, man

I really want to devote myself to them I really do but

[celest needle]

Okay but that is better then Nazi’s and Slavers

[tall echo]

and the solution is the government thatS just corrupt by default

[blissful wraith]

Long live the NCR

The real enemies are frauderhood of steal

[fast dew]

Id rather just plain incompetence over nazis and nazis recoloured

[tall echo]

why not neither

[blissful wraith]

The Enclave held an obsolete genocidal idealogy wjthout changing - Their biggest flaws

[tall echo]

become ungoverned, freedom for all

[fast dew]

They.

Were nazis. Their biggest flaw is that they upheld nationalism to the degree of genocide

[blissful wraith]

Hey would the sentient traitor Lotus say anything if Orion/Sirius resurrects ballas somehow and turns him into a 40k servitor?

I hope she doesn't, because if she does the tenno will lose their mom haha

[humble sierra]

Why would they do that

[fast dew]

Brotherhood of steel kinda suck too but they at least have a reason to hate super mutants

[celest needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1420749180674113577/1503883402871574712/image.gif

[humble sierra]

Why would she allow that

[blissful wraith]

Sweet sweet revenge

[fast dew]

She

[celest needle]

She's not petty

[fast dew]

You really need to stop thinking about revenge

It rarely serves a good story

[celest needle]

Ballas was a living monster and that is he only confirmed kill we know of

[humble sierra]

Revenge on whom btw

[blissful wraith]

On ballas, by turning him into a 40k servitor

A 40k inspired servitor

[celest needle]

The sun was dying btw

And everything going to hell

[blissful wraith]

Orion/Sirius would be ready to shut down the sun to resurrect Ballas and turn him into a 40k servitor

[dim frost]

Have you read what roathe said about ballas? That he is a joke compared to his ex

[blissful wraith]

I would do that, too

[humble sierra]

Roathe is biased, as are we

We don't know what Nitokh did and he saw more of what Nitokh did than what Ballas did

[blissful wraith]

The Anarchs were the good guys all along

[celest needle]

Ascaris bolt prime

[blissful wraith]

DE didn't have the guts for us to side with them like how bethesda didn't have the courage for us to fix the Enclave in fallout 3

[dim frost]

In the villain Wiki she has three crimes listed.

[restive river]

I mean they were until they went after innocents lol

[blissful wraith]

Hell yes, let ballas face his own nightmares

[restive river]

The sentients were in the right til they went after civilians

[blissful wraith]

In war, there are no mercy
People live and people die, there's all to it.
-Larry Foulke, Solo Wing Pixy

[glacial bough]

..No? The side that wants to continue a war are not the good guys

[humble sierra]

Villain Wiki (as well as any wiki on Fandom) can be edited by users, it's not a direct source of info. Also Ballas' has a much longer list

[blissful wraith]

The good guys are those who wanted to go against ballas, thats just my standard

[restive river]

Yes it’s very awful and everyone is terrible lol

[glacial bough]

That's objectively a bad standard

[humble sierra]

Ballas at that point wasn't involved in the war

[strange plinth]

that's a rather simple stance

[humble sierra]

he was the only one who was neutral, his vote would've changed it

[restive river]

“Conspiracy for genocide”
Is this about the Orokin or the Sentients lmao

[glacial bough]

porque no les dos

[humble sierra]

The entire vote was probably a lie anyways

The Orokin who wanted peace were just going to later plot to take Tau some other way, the ones who wanted war were just impatient

[restive river]

I’d like to think at least one of em meant it
But
It is the Orokin, more specifically the seven so realistically. No

[celest needle]

They still had operators

[fast dew]

Hey least they labelled Nitokh for what she is

[blissful wraith]

Why did Niktoh do that to roathe

[dim frost]

Thats a good summary. Ironic because as i have read were the sentients created by the orokin. Thats what i call a turn of the tables

[fast dew]

Because? Abusers do it for the power trip. There's no real answer for that.

[dim frost]

Because she had a higher rank and liked subduing people.

[restive river]

She was just kinda an abuser with a huge ego

[blissful wraith]

So the crucified Uriel we see in the tilesets were Roathe's men?

[restive river]

Why do awful people do awful things?

[humble sierra]

Correct, the Sentients were made by an Archimedean

[restive river]

One of them

[humble sierra]

Yep

[dim frost]

So copy paste every of the 7

[blissful wraith]

Thats awesome I wish DE let us transference into them and use them as a trial warframe until level ends

[restive river]

Yeah I’d say they were all fairly terrible in their own ways
Ballas was personally awful to us but the rest sound worse

[fast dew]

Hey in total fairness we know very little on Scarne and Tormis

[glacial bough]

Nitohk doesn't really have much an ego, she's just psychopathic

[restive river]

Uh
Did
You not play the quest?

[blissful wraith]

Thoughts on Tuvul? I only heard about his commons

[fast dew]

Scarne seemed. Minutely better

[blissful wraith]

Haha, Tuvul Commons

[fast dew]

BAHAHA

What a person to ask

[restive river]

I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him
I put spoons in his EYES
I wish I was Voruna
I hate him I HATE HIM

[blissful wraith]

I wanted MORE I mean give newer players a chance to try out Uriel during the levels, only available if you done a set of puzzles of courae

[blissful wraith]

Dog frame build simple:
Syam heavy attack
Spam 1 and 2
Tenacious bond primer
Done!

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/allied-mastercomputer-am-ihnm-ihnmaims-i-have-no-mouth-hate-monologue-gif-2221310702094501623

[restive river]

I mean the quest gives you that demo, he can be an option in Duviri, he doesn’t need more of a demo lol

[dim frost]

I mean it would have been a great teaser for his prime-

[restive river]

I wish I could have been the operator he tried to continuity into
I’d leave less than bones

[blissful wraith]

Uriel cruise missile build where instead ofbusing weapons you fly

[tall echo]

sorry for the delay I was redoing my hair

[blissful wraith]

How practical is it

[fast dew]

Ducky is gonna eat the bone marrow

[restive river]

He functionally has a demo as is in the quest
We have nothing on his prime other than he exists and Roathe knows who he is

[restive river]

I hate tuvul so much

[dim frost]

Ok time for the aluminium hat: i think its his son

[fast dew]

Wuh

[restive river]

Tbh
Not a bad theory
However, we do not know if he had a kid lol

[humble sierra]

I wonder when Cyte/Temple/Uriel Prime drop, if they'll have variant Gemini skins for Quincy/Flare/Roathe

[blissful wraith]

How stibky isbroathe in infested salvage encounters of descendia

[humble sierra]

Could go hard ngl

[blissful wraith]

By the way is making commi n grammar mistakes a sign of youre closer to catching a stroke or i was typing too fast like Amir

[glacial bough]

Chances are close to 0

[humble sierra]

Might explain why he wants to keep it so close to his chest until his dying breath

[restive river]

I could see something for Flare but not really the rest

[humble sierra]

Biggest shame, maybe

[fast dew]

Could go hard but like

Now we gotta face the possibility Roathe had a kid with Nitokh and the tomfoolery that comes from that

Mm. No tomfoolery is too weak a word

[dim frost]

He said its his last thing grounding him to reality. And it would fit the cruelty of Nitokh to let him be transfered to the first uriel

[blissful wraith]

DE wasted a huge potential for not making Flare's guitar not customizable

[restive river]

Ooooh
Ewwww

[restive river]

She. She is?

Lizzie is customizable afaik lol

[blissful wraith]

We could've seen EVIL JORDAN GUITAR REMIX (Prod. By Quincy K.)

[fast dew]

Flare's guitar is customisable, just not different skins or anything. She'd probably get one when Temple gets a deluxe

[blissful wraith]

No I mean like the somachord

[fast dew]

Oh you mean the shawzin?

[restive river]

I do wish we could use the like
One to two flamethrower skins on her

Or shawzin skins!

[fast dew]

No... no shawzin is customisable... bar the mimic one..

[blissful wraith]

Yes thats right we missed a huge chance to make guitar remix of TRAVIS SCOTT - NIGHTCRAWLER and Lizzie would absolutely love it

[restive river]

Do you mean like what kind of notes play :?

[blissful wraith]

Yep imagine Lizzie doing covers of PIXELATED KISSES - JOJI

[dim frost]

Nah- lizzy is more the through fire and flames girl

[restive river]

I mean
That’s why you have Octavia

[fast dew]

Using prime variant and blasting little guys with her

[blissful wraith]

No she cannot do electric guitar stuffs

[restive river]

She absolutely could
She is not a normal guitar

[fast dew]

Mm. She should get a few different samples actually

[restive river]

It would be cool to have some sample packs for her like Octavia does
Effects Temple’s abilities too

[humble sierra]

I wonder if Roathe was the mother (Female Yuvan) at that time then

[restive river]

Maybe just make it some of the 1999 songs and riffs

[dim frost]

Would fit the metronome

[humble sierra]

Nitokh doesn't strike me as the type of person who would bother with pregnancy

[fast dew]

Well now we gotta figure out the dad 😭

[restive river]

or
mpreg

[blissful wraith]

the main problem DE has is its content island - you forget it ten updates later like Kahl's mission
I really want to see another Ghost Recon style infiltration to save Xeto from Kahl and his brothers

[fast dew]

Roathe doesnt strike me as a man to do so either

[restive river]

Nitokh (male Yuvan)

[dim frost]

Ordan.

[fast dew]

ORDAN

[blissful wraith]

But WHY are they ignoring older content and focusing on newer ones? Lack of manpower?

[humble sierra]

Yeah pretty much

[restive river]

They do go back to old content when they can

The Teacher was a nice attempt

[blissful wraith]

If they do, I really want to see Kahl rescuing Xeto when shes jailed somewhere in corpus territory

[fast dew]

People do not show much interest in it, if there's ample interest, they'd go back and add to it

[restive river]

Xeto?

[blissful wraith]

Kahl should be the Ghost Recon dude we dreamed of when he gives us weapon attachments..

[celest needle]

Veno?

[blissful wraith]

Captain Xeto

[restive river]

Well they said she so I’m confused

[restive river]

The woman who spared Stalker and the kid?

[celest needle]

Huh?
Veko transitioned?

[restive river]

Bro she might be dead LOL

[fast dew]

Necramechs, modular guns/companions, archwing sorta, railjack previously

[blissful wraith]

Yea

[fast dew]

Proud of her for coming out

[blissful wraith]

Because the guys in DE didn't show any competence and give us a proper subplot to it where Kahl goes on a Ghost Recon op

[fast dew]

Railjack is actually a pretty good example of this, folk showed significant interest and they decided to add more

[humble sierra]

I mean we do, we have 3 missions

[blissful wraith]

To rescue her, and we get to choose either Xeto or Kahl to do ops

[restive river]

What

Kahl literally is going out to save people
That’s his thing

[humble sierra]

We're literally getting a sequel to the quest that had Xeto in it though

[blissful wraith]

But like he really needs to save Xeto after beibg inforned bt Stalker

[humble sierra]

She might be there

[restive river]

Oh it would be cool to have her (or any corpus) as a playable ally!

[fast dew]

And. Bluegirl is helping :)

[blissful wraith]

Ugh I kept making grammar mistakes despite looking down at the screen is it a sign I might catch a stroke soon?

[glacial bough]

Why would Xeto need to be saved

[fast dew]

Catch a stroke..

[humble sierra]

No you're just typing too fast

[restive river]

Good chance Parvos killed her tbh
I doubt she gave up info

[fast dew]

Typically parvos doesnt like traitors

[dim frost]

Spared Stalker. Thats it. Thats her whole arc.

[humble sierra]

"Incompetence" for sparing Stalker and letting go of a valuable asset means Parvos probably killed/imprisoned her

[restive river]

Stalker got lucky and dealt with a moderately more human Corpus

[humble sierra]

She was up for sisterhood, we know what happens if they fail their tests

[glacial bough]

She also allowed a new and unknown existence that potentially has a connection to the Jade Light

[restive river]

Idk if Parvos cares about the kid ngl
He’s more interested in Jade

[dim frost]

What if she never returned to the granum void?

[glacial bough]

The baby living would be far more interesting to Parvos

[fast dew]

Doesnt mean that she isnt a traitor to him

[humble sierra]

She wasn't in the Granum Void, I think

[restive river]

Parvos knows of the kid but he cares more about the Jade Light atm

[blissful wraith]

I wish to see Orion to strike a deal with Parvos to overthrow the coward of orv vallis

[fast dew]

She let the baby go instead of getting the baby

[blissful wraith]

I suddenly forgot his name?

[fast dew]

Nef

[humble sierra]

Nef Anyo

[blissful wraith]

Thabk you

[fast dew]

Nef can get it

[celest needle]

Nef loser Anyo

[restive river]

Nah
Let Sirius and Orion just kill both of em

[normal mountain]

Nef would probably hear the name "Parvos" and just nope away

[humble sierra]

I wonder how much Venus is involved tbh

[dim frost]

Baby: escapes
Parvos: someone needs to get punished side eye to nef

[blissful wraith]

What happens to the Corpus personnel after that? The Tenno bankrupt themself by recruiting them into a new force?

[fast dew]

Abusive father 💔

[restive river]

The board still exists lol

[humble sierra]

Like the original quest is Uranus, and we seem to be freeing Hunhow in that cool cinematic

[blissful wraith]

Frohd Bek my man

[fast dew]

Parvos absolutely is actually screw that man

[humble sierra]

But the fight is on Venus

[blissful wraith]

Atleast he had some sense

[restive river]

We remove Nef and someone replaces him
We remove Parvos and the board is probably happy

[celest needle]

Fraud forgotten

[dim frost]

His whole family is what he despises. Thats why he created his own by having multiple sisters

[restive river]

Or Hunhow freeing himself

[humble sierra]

ofc

[blissful wraith]

Hunhow did nothing wrong

[humble sierra]

or the ramifications of the fight freeing hunhow

[restive river]

Well
Uh
No he did many things wrong lol

[fast dew]

Maybe its like.

1. Artistic liberty
2. We follow their trail of destruction from venus

[glacial bough]

He did many things wrong

[blissful wraith]

To defend himself

[restive river]

Nope

[normal mountain]

"All right, you little brats. Who's ready for a swat?"

[blissful wraith]

And his hive-kin, Adis would be proud

[glacial bough]

The Sentients attacked first

[celest needle]

No he would not

[fast dew]

Adis would be hurt

[ocean geyser]

All the inter-faction really does make me hope for a gamemode where we just
Fight as regular fellas

[celest needle]

Hunhow wants to kill the Tenno

[ocean geyser]

(I think about this idea a lot)

[humble sierra]

I think they confirmed the third orb is dead though, so I assume we will be seeing Venus eventually

[glacial bough]

And that still doesn't justify planning to kill every living thing

[restive river]

Well he did
His rage seems to be subsiding
But we shall see

[dim frost]

The han-solo discussion warframe Edition

[blissful wraith]

I second this. I really wish to see a pvp tactical shooter mode bringing us memories of Ghost Recon third person installments where grineer vs corpus just fight it out

[restive river]

I do think Hunhow is learning and/or has the potential to learn and be better
Which is more than can be said for 99% of all Orokin

[humble sierra]

Can't wait for Wednesday the 10th when the quest drops (that week will be the latest it will be, or DE will suffer the consequences)

[restive river]

I think you should just go play ghost recon dude lol

[ocean geyser]

Just as long as we avoid the Hero shooter style of things 😭

[fast dew]

Adis wanted a way to a peaceful... peace, Hunhow wanted that peace at all costs. And was violent because of it. That's what I think at least

[restive river]

Warframe’s history with pvp is bad, I hope that they really don’t give it another go for their own sake
We don’t need another abandoned nothing gamemode that is easily preventable

[fast dew]

And while I understand the need and desire for peace, and that there was literally no other way for it, it still hurt others

[blissful wraith]

Hell yes, loadouts type shi are king

[restive river]

Now that being said Lunaro is fun and funny if you don’t know what you’re doing and play with friends

[ocean geyser]

Snowball fight gamemode

[blissful wraith]

We need actual pvp atomicycle racing without killing each other straight racing lije MotoGP or SBK

[fast dew]

-# did you hear overwatch collaborated with fortnite

[restive river]

Him destroying the rail was probably the best thing he ever did

[celest needle]

That trailer was ASS

[restive river]

I would like a race gamemode but it’s not really needed or wanted atm

[ocean geyser]

-# no
I saw that there’s Cyberpunk skins now
I wonder if Epic will ever offer DE anything

[restive river]

They will do anything for money

[humble sierra]

What are they, Ben Starr?

[restive river]

That sanrio collab and jetpack cat addition had me laughing with how bad and obvious it is that it’s a cash grab LOL

[restive river]

[blissful wraith]

DE instead of collaborating with pther media, they should start collab with Lockheed, Colt, etc. giving us dope down to earth landing craft and realistic weapon skins

[celest needle]

What you got against JPC?

[ocean geyser]

That said, they probably already have and DE went “nah im good”

[restive river]

Sanrio’s cute but every time I see anything tied to it it’s overpriced lol

[dim frost]

If thats true: a huge thank you to DE

[restive river]

My issue is also more so with Overwatch

[celest needle]

That wasn't got jet pack cat tho

[fast dew]

Unfortunately doom did it once 💔

[humble sierra]

I don't think DE would want to support any actual arms manufacturers or care about realistic weapon skins in their Sci-Fantasy game (we already have the Protokol stuff)

[restive river]

Overwatch has it
OW is my problem

[fast dew]

Hey actually there is a Sanrio themed Cafe in Melbourne actually. I think..

[blissful wraith]

The G11 were so dope...

[restive river]

Which those skins were references to Dark Sector anyway lol

[ashen sierra]

i want a lockheed martin collab asap

[ocean geyser]

I don’t think we need that broski

[restive river]

I mean that’s fine
But the prices are def jacked up
Just hope it’s quality

[humble sierra]

They're more likely to do a Doc Marten collab

[fast dew]

They did reference uh

Doc martin's with Albrecht's shoes

[ocean geyser]

It’d be a good tennogen
There’s no tennogen landing craft skins, right?

[dim frost]

Walk like a true Orokin with the Entrati doc martin's

[restive river]

I think DE just
Shouldn’t collab with any other company or game or anything unless they need to
And if they need to I’d rather they just make a new batch of hot protos or an heirloom skin lol

[fast dew]

Its Aussie prices so it'll have tax included if that helps 😭 i never went, not a fan of Sanrio enough to go there

[restive river]

There is actually iirc

[ocean geyser]

Fr??

[restive river]

Damn

[ocean geyser]

Never seen any

[restive river]

It’s the more basic skins iirc, no model changes lol

[blissful wraith]

DE should collab with MINIGT to give us the dopest orbiter decoration

[ocean geyser]

Who?

[restive river]

No
They shouldn’t

[humble sierra]

Speaking of Jetpack Cat, Overwatch and Fortnite, way back before JPC, Fortnite had this fun skin with a cat piloting a mech

[restive river]

If DE does collab I’d rather the collab items not be in Warframe but the other game
Like that pubg collab that existed for no reason

[fast dew]

Maybe I'll go when my sister and her kid gets to go down to Melbourne again, they're fans of Sanrio but its also Melbourne and Melbourne is loud and kinda scary

[blissful wraith]

IM ADDICTED HELP ME FIND MORE ‼️‼️

[ashen sierra]

We have horses, DE should do a GLOCK collab

[blissful wraith]

We demand to be represented we are diecast addicts

[fast dew]

Fully thought that was Samuel hayden

[blissful wraith]

-# I think

[humble sierra]

He's just a shy little cat this whole time

[restive river]

The jetpack cat thing is an old joke as far as I can tell from like a decade ago for Overwatch lol

[humble sierra]

okay nevermind maybe not "way back before JPC" then

[fast dew]

He's my little meow meow
-# ignore that he benefited from the suffering of millions

[restive river]

It is
That’s what he really looks like

What if samuel hayden’s full name was samuel hayden tenno
Wyd

[fast dew]

He'd honestly kinda fit into dark sector i think

[restive river]

I gotta play that still lol

[blissful wraith]

DE x Bungie to reunite the fans and give us the Marathon inspired frame and weapon skins

[restive river]

No thanks.

[fast dew]

Id rather shoot myself in the foot than see bungie even breathe near DE

[restive river]

Again, I really rather they not collab and if they do, keep it out of Warframe.

[humble sierra]

it's just been waiting there for me since DE made it free on Steam for a little while

[fast dew]

What a set of games

[humble sierra]

[restive river]

Ah
DE’s holy quartet
Warframe
Soilframe
Dark sector
And Balatro

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[restive river]

Everyone knows the real fourth is that star trek game

[dim frost]

I would rather eat the flesh of an infested than seeing this collab

[humble sierra]

Fixed

[fast dew]

Id rather shoot loid point blank

[restive river]

NOW ITS THE HOLY QUARTET

[blissful wraith]

No dont do that make him pregnant instead

[fast dew]

WHH

[restive river]

The gun that makes you pregnant

[fast dew]

No for your information it would be Albrecht who would. Gotta decouple femininity from fertility fr

[humble sierra]

Shoot him with the gun that makes you gay

why isn't anything happening

[fast dew]

We didn't do anything hes just bleeding out

[blissful wraith]

Femboy Roathe x Loid😋cuking Albrecht

[fast dew]

WUH

BEGONE

[dim frost]

Ok too much Internet for today.

[blissful wraith]

Hey, how did the Entrati treated warframes better under orokin rule without being exterminated

[restive river]

Because you can’t make someone gay
It’s the gun that makes you overcome internalized homophobia/have a revelation

[fast dew]

Its not a rule not to treat them alright, but the entrati family were weird already

[fast dew]

Xata.............

Big fan of that in media actually

[humble sierra]

I can't think of too many times the Warframes themselves were directly abused (besides maybe Dagath)

[restive river]

Valkyr
But
That’s later

[dim frost]

Before or after beeing made into a warframe?

[fast dew]

After

[restive river]

They’re all technically victims of abuse through being helminthed but some were volunteers and some weren’t so
Case by case with that

[fast dew]

Laser blasted right in the face

[restive river]

The frames weren’t allowed to speak

[humble sierra]

Before she was kind of a concubine, after that she was just tossed into a scrap pile after being lasered

[restive river]

She was part of the most toxic polycule ever

Part of it just cause she was a Dax lol

[dim frost]

Well the transformation into a warframe was described as rather painful

[blissful wraith]

So Albrecht was way better by turning them into protoframes instead

I love him Loid dont kill ne I love him as a brother in arms

[restive river]

No
I think that’s worse tbh

[dim frost]

Well.. at this point he sees people and turns them into protos.

[glacial bough]

Protos are the exact same process, just longer

[restive river]

The protos will take longer to succumb to the infestation, it will tap on their minds for so much longer

[humble sierra]

Yeah they actually have time to realize they'll lose all sense of identity while also undergoing excruciating pain

[fast dew]

-# he doesnt really want to be doing this. He just has to. For... Some reason

[restive river]

I really want to see a proto on the verge of madness at some point due to how far they’ve progressed
And ofc
We help them best we can

[dim frost]

Temple aka flare. No better excample needed.

[restive river]

The roundtable were volunteers
Iirc Kaya also found him lmao

[fast dew]

Kaya sought his ass out and pestered him lmao