lore-discussion

[restive river]

The rail afaik is tied to the heart but since it’s FTL travel technically it could be powered by the fingers

[fast dew]

He is overall pretty easy to restrain

[dire mountain]

It really depends on unforseen consequences

If taking out wally disrupts everything that needs the void to function and the tenno I'd argue that's not a great thing

[fast dew]

Genuinely mutilating him could count as a containment

[restive river]

Presently
He gets that fingy and idk anymore

[strange plinth]

bordering on euclid and keter, prolly

[fast dew]

Remember, the class system isn't based on the danger, but the difficulty of containment

[pine thistle]

You’re right, he wouldn’t. The Indifference would be Apollyon class. It gaining full access to our realm would possibly be a reality ending event.

[pale cedar]

I bet Wally is gonna get that finger soon

[dire mountain]

Chekov's finger gun

[fast dew]

Ehh. And breach wouldn't cause much unless he can access those lopped off body parts

[restive river]

No clue how accurate this is but
Wally likely falls into safe, euclid or apollyon

[fast dew]

Pretty much

[restive river]

Safe or euclid for how we typically know him
Apollyon for if he gets fingy

[strange plinth]

accurate afaik

[fast dew]

Had to access 14 year old Thomas hyperfix for a hot bit

[strange plinth]

real

[pine thistle]

Something tells me he will get the finger

[restive river]

I had to go back like 7 years

[restive river]

The literal moment we see it
Assume he will get it

[fast dew]

5-6 ish years for me

[restive river]

Chekov’s gun
But this time it’s a finger

[pine thistle]

The Indifference at full power is absolutely Apollyon-class

[fast dew]

Fingergun!

[dire mountain]

I made that joke 😭

[fast dew]

Oh god dammit

[dire mountain]

See

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-explosion-gif-7563607804576630642

Ngl i need to see more thaumiel classed scps

You don't see em all too often

[dire mountain]

Actually greyscale made it 5 months ago #lore-discussion message

[strange plinth]

i absolutely stole that from someone though

[restive river]

I think there’s a good reason for that 😭

[dire mountain]

The rabbit hole goes deeper

[fast dew]

Like the word wrinkletwink

Scrap claims he used it first

[restive river]

Discord literally breaks when I add gun to the search 😭

[fast dew]

Censorship 💔

[restive river]

Loid

[fast dew]

Wuh why did I miss out on the lore

[fast dew]

Exactly Exactly

[pine thistle]

Honestly

[dire mountain]

I mean... they're world ending threats

[pine thistle]

I wonder why the Orokin engineered their bodies instead of just having it occur through natural births

[dire mountain]

It makes sense there's not many

[restive river]

They can’t be contained lol

[pine thistle]

It would reinforce their ideology better iirc

[fast dew]

Thaumiel??? As in.

The one class that serves as containment??

[dire mountain]

Ohh

[restive river]

Well they likely did but they did biomods because they kept hopping bodies

[fast dew]

Why would people. Not write them

Its such a fun idea

[restive river]

Omg my brain read it as apollyon too wth

Yes more thaumiel please

[fast dew]

They're two completely different words 😭

[restive river]

Where you classifying the infestation?

[pine thistle]

Tbh I like that we aren’t Orokin, not really a fan of the blue skin

[fast dew]

Ohh.

[strange plinth]

-# the tau radiation is going to end up as thaumiel

[pine thistle]

We are just regular humans, possibly wealthy

[restive river]

Could
They be thaumiel?
It was technically used to contain Wally

[fast dew]

Mm. Not apollyon. As bad as the infestation is, its not exactly

Reality ending

[restive river]

I mean the Orokin were humans too
They were just above money and thought themselves gods

[restive river]

Exactly
It could just be keter

Actually
Apollyon is apocalyptic
The infestation could snowball into that

[pale cedar]

There’s this weird thing I can’t understand

If Albrecht didn’t love his wife why did he become worse when she died?

[fast dew]

Could true

[restive river]

There were 18 radiation wars after it popped off

[strange plinth]

Keter, probably. similar to Flesh That Hates iirc
Euclid/Safe if they can figure out helminth

[fast dew]

He. Got better

He arguably got better 😭

[restive river]

Maybe he still cared for her but like
As a bestie?

[pine thistle]

At least the Valyrians had an actual reason to think that. Orokin just relied on high technology

Arrogance at its finest

[fast dew]

As a normal human would. Maybe for Euleria's sake

[restive river]

He ain’t a normal human

I’m trying to say that at most maybe they were friends lol

[restive river]

They do be the most arrogant ever
As we continue to see in the roache

[stiff fable]

Refacia kit!

You too can be a tru blu Orokin lad or lass

[restive river]

I have a need to see a purple or green Orokin

[fast dew]

Gimmie a purplely pink one

[restive river]

What’s the enby version
maybe just enby

[pine thistle]

I based my operator/drifter off of her lol

[fast dew]

Like. Sunset colours

[dire mountain]

Isnt albrecht already kinda sickly green

[stiff fable]

Mass Effect intensifies

[fast dew]

Yeah, super pale green

[pale cedar]

Shorokin

[restive river]

We did figure out his exact tone on the kit iirc

[fast dew]

Could be a normal skin tone though

[restive river]

Unsure if you have that Thomas

[fast dew]

Could just be pale with a green undertone

[strange plinth]

-# i still find it funny that karishh was described as "violet-scented"

[fast dew]

I do somewhere, I gotta scroll for a bit

[restive river]

Aight
He was purple

Actually
For the Seven we don’t have canon refacia tones for what color would you associate for each one?
Ballas, Tuvul and Avantus are all confirmed blue
With Karrish maybe being purple
So Nitokh, Tormis and Scarne are what’s left

[fast dew]

It

Mightve been drowned by doomguy

[restive river]

I think either Scarne or Tormis would be green tbh

[pine thistle]

I went with pale skin, lilac eyes with a pink hue, and silver-golden hair. Idk I find that more beautiful than the sickly blue or grey skin and what is it, amber eyes, white?

Why do the Orokin have no irises?

[stiff fable]

I actually would have liked if Aventus had been gold

[fast dew]

GIMMIE GOLD FOR THAT WOMAN

Sorry I'm. Normal over her

[restive river]

Hey maybe they could retcon that in
The only art of her prior to her statue was never actually labeled as her

[stiff fable]

Trueeeeee

[tall echo]

Avantus the elder scrolls high elf

[restive river]

We didn’t know this was she for a decade almost

https://preview.redd.it/orokin-woman-by-keith-thompson-2017-v0-weqse7huutbe1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=edcd4c6558cb251b38b6a922677232b99831474b

[fast dew]

This was she

[stiff fable]

Complete with Omega Racism precept

[restive river]

Gods those fingers

[fast dew]

Shes so pretty

[strange plinth]

surely the Seven wouldn't let another executor be gold, the symbol of their empire,,

[restive river]

Man maybe Roathe and Albrecht just thought the fingers were too long and weird lol

[restive river]

Maybe one of the paler colors to compliment the gold?

[fast dew]

Wanna bet Albrecht vibed out of the hand. Thought it would feel weird and noped out

[stiff fable]

I am once again no longer asking, where the hell are the other six executor blades

[restive river]

Def got judgmental looks but at the same time it’s not a requirement

[stiff fable]

I don't see why, he wore dreadlocks as a white dude

[tall echo]

If they even had any

[restive river]

Avantus’ is right there!!

[tall echo]

Tormis 100% just punched stuff

[stiff fable]

Exactly!!

[restive river]

Itty bitty dagger

[fast dew]

I

Don't think he was white in that form? He's. Kinda racially ambiguous in the portrait

[restive river]

I can totally see that
Whatever it is being for fashion
Maybe sewing

[dire mountain]

I might be misremembering but iirc roathe explicitly was like "the long arm gets in the way on the battlefield" or something

So it was moreso practicality reasons than anything

[restive river]

Oh hey that’s actually what I gave his mii in tomorachi since I couldn’t remember if we saw his other form without the hat lol

[dire mountain]

Which would also check out for albrecht being a scientist

[restive river]

Yeah that makes sense lol

[tall echo]

Tomorachi

[fast dew]

YOU MADE HIM IN TOMODACHI AND YOU DIDNT SHOW ME

[restive river]

My phone hates me
Help
Help

[restive river]

I did Loid too
He was
Way worse somehow lol

Like to make
I think I did fine

[fast dew]

No but the beard options are kinda ass so I understand

[restive river]

I’ll get a pic asap

[tall echo]

Tomodachi jirachi, you gotta make it now

[restive river]

Oh I think I nailed his facial hair setup best I could

[restive river]

I have Mew as a pet
I could add Jirachi

[fast dew]

I wish we had a mirror/symmetry tool..

[restive river]

Same

Anyway
Warframe
I’ll get the pics when I can but for now?
Frame our wars!

[fast dew]

I also made Samuel hayden [his human form] and doomguy, and completely on his own, Samuel got hit with love at first sight

That was. Unbearably funny at 3am

[restive river]

So I since lost this since I accidentally closed the tab but I was making a bingo card for tennocon

[fast dew]

OH

[pine thistle]

Ngl I think the Orokin just did too much with regard to their appearance

They were too extravagant and ostentatious about it

[fast dew]

Eh, they didn't do too much

[restive river]

They literally were apart of the vain faith

[fast dew]

Other than. Karrish

[restive river]

They did a good bit, we don’t know what tech they had installed in them

[fast dew]

They are vain yes but the amount of visual body modification is quite low

[dire mountain]

Thats the point

[restive river]

Ballas had somatics at one point for instance
Actually he prob kept those til we stabbed him

[fast dew]

They. Could've done a lot weirder

[pine thistle]

Yeah and that’s why i don’t enjoy it lol

[restive river]

Tall
Long arm
Blue/other colors

[restive river]

There are more reasons than that to hate the Orokin

[fast dew]

Pretty low, they chose yuvans based on their appearance, so I imagine they didnt need much plastic surgery to adjust it

[pine thistle]

I want my characters to be beautiful, but theirs is a natural beauty, hence why I did what I did instead of going for Orokin coloring even though I could’ve

[pearl axle]

Do you want suggestions

[pine thistle]

Though one could argue lilac eyes aren’t natural

[restive river]

They’re the 1% of the 1% tyrants that are higher on their own ego than Albrecht was on nestawood

[fast dew]

I love the visual aesthetic of the orokin

[restive river]

Ye
Though idk when I’ll remake it lol

[fast dew]

Its ethereal

[restive river]

I mostly wanted to share since I feel like we’re able to make some good guesses now

[fast dew]

Otherworldly

[fast dew]

Nah, Albrecht was pretty normal over all during that

Loid however

[restive river]

Our DNA is saturated in the void and we pilot cyborg replicas of people infected with the worst virus ever

[fast dew]

Poor Loid

High out of his gourd and sick from it

[restive river]

You misunderstand
The Orokin’s egos were higher than Albrecht on nestawood

Unless you meant to correct me and say that Loid was higher

[fast dew]

Thats not very high 😭 loid was probably higher

[restive river]

Didn’t he green out

[fast dew]

He did!

[restive river]

Ok I’ll rephrase lol

[fast dew]

Pale and sick

[restive river]

The Orokin’s egos are higher than Loid on nestawood

[pearl axle]

• Nitohk lore
• New archons
• Sentient adversary
• Sentient syndicate
• Railjack
• New focus powers
• Equinox/Chroma/Ember/Limbo/Loki/etc rework (choose your favourite copium)

[pine thistle]

Their architecture is what draws me

Appearance not so much

[restive river]

Those really do be the copium options

Is Ember
Not good again???

[tall echo]

Sentient lich is a low chance ngl

[fast dew]

LIMBO SO HE CAN GET THE LOID PROTO

[stiff fable]

Ember fell off hard tragically

[restive river]

If we get that we prob won’t til much later into the arc

[tall echo]

Chroma

[restive river]

WHAT HAPPENED 😭
She was fine when 1999 came out!

[stiff fable]

Healing Flame getting Overguard was a patch job

[restive river]

Oh is it survivability?

[tall echo]

Emner is painfully fragile

[pine thistle]

True, so no one can really say anything when my operator looks like this 😭😭

[tall echo]

EMNER.

[restive river]

Damn 😔

[stiff fable]

Yeah :/

[fast dew]

Emner

[stiff fable]

That reminds me I need to fix my Mag build

[restive river]

She looks like Marie but like
If she didn’t glaze Albrecht

[fast dew]

Im gonna be so fr that kinda looks like a boring operator

[restive river]

Everyone’s got their own style bud

[fast dew]

Not saying its bad but like

[pine thistle]

🗿

[fast dew]

Reminds me of the blue wolf fursona archetype

[restive river]

LOL

I can see the reasoning lmao

[tall echo]

5head

[pine thistle]

My Operator/Drifter have the Valyrian appearance while my orbiter and weapons/frames have the Orokin aesthetic

[restive river]

Why is the best part of Marie her haircut

[fast dew]

No her shoe things are pretty sick

[restive river]

Her braces?

[tall echo]

Because design is seperate from writing, heeho

[restive river]

I think that’s what those are

[fast dew]

Are Valyrians just white people 😭

[restive river]

She was made as a skin first

[tall echo]

What the hyuck is "valyrian"

[restive river]

Now I’m just back to wishing we got literally another other option they had in her concept art

[tall echo]

I need to find funnier censors

[pine thistle]

More akin to elves. They’re a fictional race of magical humans from ASOIAF who were known for their ethereal appearance, blood magic, and ability to mount and ride dragons.

[fast dew]

They

[tall echo]

It sounds and looks so uncomfortably close to aryan

[fast dew]

Look like regular people

[restive river]

Oh hey
Fun thing to do for fashion, take your proto and try to replicate their concept art!
The effect ofc is better if their concept art is vastly different in some way
I did it with Kaya’s and it’s prob one of my favorite fashions for her

This is totally lore related cause the concept art relates to their history

[fast dew]

Kaya's cropped jacket is so cute shout out that jacket

[tall echo]

Is she
Grabbing reality
What is she doing

[restive river]

This just reminds me of the tall white blond swedish aliens thing lmao

[stiff fable]

Grabbing reality

[strange plinth]

void fissure /s

[restive river]

I would be tbh

[tall echo]

"Shut"

[restive river]

She’s the beeest 😭
I wish I was better at Nova fashion

[tall echo]

Just
grabs void fissure "no."

[restive river]

Xaku grabs it and redirects it!

[strange plinth]

actually they did mention 1999 void fissures again didn't they
wonder who will have dialogue for that or if they'll just use the usual lotus dialogue

[pine thistle]

You probably know then if you ever watched Game of Thrones. Prince Viserys and Princess Daenerys in the show are Valyrian

[pearl axle]

Step 1: Buy Atomica skin
Step 2: you're done

[restive river]

Seriously
Why Xaku got the on demand neural sentry
Or
Is that the fissure energy controlling them???

[restive river]

That skin is actually so hard to fashion for, it does not take to colors well

I own every non-tennogen skin for her and I am STRUGGLING

[pearl axle]

Really? I love its color channels

[tall echo]

Own every tennogen

[pearl axle]

It's the only skin I've ever bought with plat

[restive river]

I’ve never seen game of thrones lol

[fast dew]

They should give us the. Ability to give the protos hair accessories

[restive river]

Tennogen gets unequipped when you hop devices 💔
Wish they’d have a check for that or something 😭

[pine thistle]

Oof

[pearl axle]

It's not worth seeing. It's based on an unfinished book series and the showrunners made up an ending that sucked really really bad.

First half is excellent but it falls off really hard

[restive river]

Oh I’m well aware
I remember when people were talking about it

It just does not seem like my kind of show

[pine thistle]

The show fell off after S4. ASOIAF is my favorite book series though idc

[tall echo]

Discworld

[pine thistle]

I legit have the banner of the Targaryens in my room like 😭

Anyway, I digress.

[fast dew]

If we wanna share shrines lemme

[restive river]

Albecht

[tall echo]

It's not a shrine thomas

[pearl axle]

Why are you so obsessed with Albrecht Entrati

[fast dew]

No it wasn't gonna be that

[restive river]

Damn

[fast dew]

Dammit 💔

[tall echo]

It's just one flag

[restive river]

LOL

What makes it a shrine???

[tall echo]

My swords count as more of a shrine

[pine thistle]

Dw it’ll be a shrine when I get Blackfyre and Dark Sister, but both of the sword replicas are $800 cause it’s Damascus Steel custom made; but anyway

[restive river]

Would my many many ducks count???

[tall echo]

Probably

[tall echo]

Why

[fast dew]

My over 1k [Australian] doom merch collection

Woe upon ye, bear witness to my poor spending habits

This is ignoring i own multiple copies of the whole series

[pearl axle]

Why

Do you rebuy for every platform

[tall echo]

I don't trust fantasy swords to be designed functionally so I worry for the material

[fast dew]

Pc, ps, the time I didn't get my preorder on time

[tall echo]

Orfer

[fast dew]

The time I bought them for my friends

The whole series all up is easily like. At least 200 bucks

[clever linden]

Orokin but fantasy themed

[pearl axle]

Tbf the "decadent empire of beautiful shitty people" is a recurrent trope in fantasy and sci-fi

[pine thistle]

It’s actually not far off from a normal sword except the blade is slightly thinner and the cross-guard is done in the shape of dragon wings

That’s Dark Sister

[pearl axle]

Targaryens, Orokin, the Eldar in 40K, even Tolkien did it with Numenoreans, etc

It's kind of everywhere

[celest needle]

I don't know I think you like Doom

[pearl axle]

The Sith species in Star Wars

[tall echo]

Acceptable

[fast dew]

The maykrs kinda are like that...

[fast dew]

Nah i actually really enjoy ultrakill

-# I did just buy the v1, v2 and Minos plushies

[tall echo]

Odds are usually that tolkien started the trope if lotr is included in one

[pearl axle]

I mean Tolkien based his on the myth of Atlantis

[restive river]

Check out don’t stop girly pop

[tall echo]

People like to copy tolkien is the thing

[fast dew]

I KNOW OF IT

IVE BEEN MEANING TO GET IT

[restive river]

My friend got it for me for women’s day :D

[fast dew]

I was there from the start dawg that shit is delicious

[pearl axle]

And they always screw up his themes lmfao
See: every edition of d&d

[fast dew]

Did you know the first doom game is mildly based on a DnD campaign the first folk at idsoftware did

And then Sandy shitterson waltzed up

[pine thistle]

GRRM (creator of A Song of Ice and Fire) directly said that Tolkien was one of his inspirations tbf.

[restive river]

Vel and Min are
Uh
Hanging. Out?
(The yellow text initially was referring to Wally but ig they’re using it on each other now???)

[fast dew]

I hope he dies i hate him

[pine thistle]

ASOIAF first came out in the mid 1990s so it wasn’t late but it also wasn’t early

[restive river]

Omw to get my loid and albrecht pics lol

[fast dew]

BOAH

NO MINERVA

[restive river]

Talk about toxic 😭

[tall echo]

Wasn't that the origin story for elder scrolls

[fast dew]

Tbf they did kidnap a kid

[restive river]

True LMAO

[fast dew]

Its happened multiple times christ

The. Cacodemon is directly based on a monster from dnd

[tall echo]

Beholder?

[pine thistle]

I would argue Frank Herbert. J.R.R. Tolkien, and George R. R. Martin are pretty much the main triumvirate of known fantasy/sci fi writers.

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-cacodemon-classic-doom-doom-1993-doom-2-gif-10445277167591704580

[fast dew]

No! Astral Dreadnought from memory

[tall echo]

Ah, epilepsy

[fast dew]

All the sprites are also made from actual real world models :)

[pearl axle]

I mean on the sci-fi end you can't ignore Arthur C Clarke, Isaac Asimov, and Ursula Le Guin is famous for both

[celest needle]

Type shit

[fast dew]

The archvile model is huge

[pearl axle]

There's a lot of foundational inspirations behind these genres

[fast dew]

Worst demon ever btw genuinely evil

What do you mean it summons and revives demons

[pine thistle]

Foundation is so goated

Such an underrated series

[fast dew]

What do you mean it has an insane health pool

[pearl axle]

If anything GRRM is a latecomer, building off older traditions and putting his own spin on it

[fast dew]

What do you mean its the fastest demon in game

[restive river]

Albrecht and Loid

[fast dew]

Loid is so real for it

[restive river]

He’s jumping around and being silly lol

[fast dew]

Albrecht looks

Like he's seen horrors

[tall echo]

Albrecht looks miserable

[ashen pulsar]

gonna be honest for a sec
most of the dune series is kinda terrible

[pine thistle]

Cause of Frank’s son

[restive river]

They’re talking…

[pearl axle]

He's not really one of the founding writers, more on par with the likes of Brandon Sanderson, Steven Erikson, etc

[fast dew]

Awh

Lemme boot up my totally legal copy

[pearl axle]

Influential but of a modern generation

[ashen pulsar]

i’m not sure herbert deserves all the praise

[restive river]

“And that’s how I got all my skin sheered off”

[tall echo]

Sheared

[pearl axle]

"Can I eat it?"

[tall echo]

Sheared?

[celest needle]

Don't they got his 1999 old mn hair?

[restive river]

I think I amalgamated Albrecht’s two designs p well

[tall echo]

Sheer...

[fast dew]

Sandblasted is my preferred term

[ashen pulsar]

no i’m talking about anything past children

[tall echo]

Cut

[pine thistle]

Oof

[restive river]

Idk maybe
I couldn’t find a good option and couldn’t find a pic of him without the hat

[tall echo]

Peeled :D

[restive river]

Thank you Scrap 😭

[restive river]

Peeled!

[pine thistle]

Foundation is good as a book but it was unadaptable to TV until recently

But Apple found a way apparently

[fast dew]

I also. Have neci and viktor but they're refusing to fall in love

[pearl axle]

The adaptation is okay

[restive river]

Oh
Aoi showed up

[ashen pulsar]

heretics, chapterhouse, god-emperor
it’s just not good, and gets really weird at some points

[tall echo]

Company ink

[fast dew]

How did you get to ultra friends man

[pine thistle]

I like the show tbh

[restive river]

I have no idea how relationships work in this game
They just happen and sometimes it’s borderline canonical 😭

[pearl axle]

I absolutely love the Cleons but I feel like the actual foundation part is kinda meh, with only the mother-daughter stuff in the second season being really good

[fast dew]

look at him

[pearl axle]

I wish they did more parallels/foils between empire and foundation like that tbh.

[restive river]

We took very different but very similar approaches LOL

[fast dew]

Loid's in the shower so he's.

Doing that rn

[tall echo]

Doesn't 1999 albrecht just have steve's haircut

[pearl axle]

The "everyone is the same person but all screwed up on different ways" imperial clones, vs actual family and different (more organic and human I guess) drama with foundation

[pine thistle]

Yeah they knocked it out of the park with Empire, but Foundation is kinda mid at times

They did way more with Empire than Asimov even did

[restive river]

I’m having another lore accurate romance happen 😭

[fast dew]

No way

[tall echo]

...have we even seen steve without a cap

[fast dew]

Im stuck here with old man yaoi island WITHOUT PLANNING

[restive river]

I got alien yaoi

[pearl axle]

They should've made the foundation protagonist different depending on generation...with Hari Seldon treated as a direct foil to the android

So every Cleon faces a different face of the Foundation but Hari and (forgot her name) the immortal robot lady are constants who have been fighting the same shadow war for hundreds of years

[restive river]

Arthur and Kaya are friends :)

[pine thistle]

The thing with that is that it kinda kills the opportunity for true character connection

Which is what I think the creators wanted

So they just have Gael living on even though it’s been like 3 centuries

[pearl axle]

Except they also showed they can do that with only a very few episodes
Like the gay admiral who was in prison

[tall echo]

There's like 2.5 topics going on and one is vaguely wf related

[restive river]

Ok last one I’m sharing lol

[fast dew]

relationship goals

[pine thistle]

🗿

[restive river]

Oh did you draw on his facial hair?

[fast dew]

i won btw

[tall echo]

Albrecht severely needs more wrinkles

[fast dew]

YEAH LOID SUCKS

[restive river]

Mine is serviceably wrinkly

[pearl axle]

Gael is just kinda uninteresting imo. I don't like how...low-key all her romantic relationships are when I feel like given her very obvious autism coding she should struggle a lot more

[fast dew]

Yeah idk why but i forgot em for some reason

wheres my sam actually i wanna see this shit play out

[restive river]

This is what I did (ok last one for real)

The stache is def the hardest but I think you can replicate the rest p easily

[fast dew]

true..

[pearl axle]

We have a psychic math savant who was born and raised in an extremely religiously oppressive society and only escaped after reaching adulthood, now jumping decades at a time via cryo. This person should not be as socially/romantically functional as she's portrayed

[stiff fable]

Real talk, Foundation is garbage as a Foundation show

[pearl axle]

Loid just saw the operator attempt to lick a voca

[celest needle]

Is she the can 🥀

[restive river]

she the can and the car

[restive river]

He’s so tired

[tall echo]

Cancar...
Clanker...

[fast dew]

Loid the babysitter, forever tired

[stiff fable]

Not only do the writers not understand psychohistory as Asimov intended, they also miss what the Foundation novels are trying to say

[fast dew]

Get the man something to relax with, he might pop a blood vessle

[stiff fable]

However the Genetic Empire is actually a super cool idea and would have made for a good show in its own right

[bitter linden]

...do you think they taste dusty?

[stiff fable]

Just, not connected to anything Asimov

[tall echo]

I
Think voca taste like sand
And I know how sand tastes

[fast dew]

Giving Loid a bottle of wine for his

Idk random celebration

Naberus, or something

[restive river]

Y’know I wonder if the food in Duviri tasted exactly how Drifter thought it would

[bitter linden]

A bottle aged since the old war while he watches the operator doing dog days

[stiff fable]

Oh that's evil

Yes, canon accepted

[restive river]

Child’s perception of alcohol…

Maybe that’s what they drank in the New War

[fast dew]

Brilliant idea

Loid in. Swimming gear.
He'd go for like. A masc one piece i feel

Albrecht just got. Idk board shorts, He'd be that guy

[bitter linden]

Shirtless albrecht... much to ponder

[fast dew]

Depending on if the child's tasted it before, it would be one of two things

Rancid, or ooo fun coloured drink

[pearl axle]

My hot take is that Foundation the books are unadaptable as written and frankly not that good thematically — they're interesting conceptually, but I feel like Asimov himself fundamentally misunderstands like.... history, as a whole

[fast dew]

Loid also is avid on sun protection

Sunscreen up you bastard you're gonna get sunburn and or skin cancer

[stiff fable]

I'd say it's weirdly a very 20th century Russian view of history

[fast dew]

Actually. How. Common is it to use sunscreen outside Australia

[stiff fable]

Very

Because for most people the choice is "sunblock or become as ham"

[fast dew]

I imagine folks in England don't use it too often..

[fast dew]

Weird we. Are taught at a young age you will just

Get cancer

[stiff fable]

They still have to, clouds don't block nearly enough UV

[fast dew]

Don't it amplify it

[stiff fable]

Some kinds can, not all

[fast dew]

Also would. They be using lower SPF rated sunscreens?

I imagine 50+ would be overkill but its better safe than sorry

I just

Had a wonderful thought

[strange turtle]

There’s masc one pieces?

[strange turtle]

Pretty often summer/late spring, especially when going to the beach or an outdoor pool

[tall echo]

Just one

[pearl axle]

Asimov was born in Petrovichi, Russian SFSR,[13] on an unknown date between October 4, 1919, and January 2, 1920
I mean that tracks

[pearl axle]

I'm Chinese and East Asians are obsessed with sunscreen because our beauty standards prefer pale skin because like getting a tan means you look like a peasant lol

[pearl axle]

Imagine if he has a crazy old man sleeper build. Like a jacked grandpa

[bitter linden]

Those wacky orokin and their genetic engineering, i wouldn't surprised lol

[humble sierra]

The table! The table is real!

[fast dew]

As in. The swimsuit? Kinda like if shorts and a tshirt fused

[fast dew]

Nono, thats loid

Albrecht's a lil chubby

[restive river]

What’s the convo at now i got distracted by tomodachi lol

[fast dew]

This is what I wear but with long sleeves for the shirt

Rashies :)

[celest needle]

Swimsuits for guys

[restive river]

Ah
I shall take my temporary leave then lol

[fast dew]

Albrecht with a Hawaiian shirt tho

[fast dew]

Quick what would Eleanor wear

[fast dew]

Shes getting a big sun hat for sure

[restive river]

Oh for sure

[fast dew]

Femme one piece with like. A sheer tied skirt

[restive river]

She could prob rock anything ngl
I think most of the hex could

[fast dew]

Probably black or purple
.. maybe a dark green..

Roathe doesnt get to be thought about

[humble sierra]

I wanna see Arthur in this now, but like still Warframe'd underneath

[fast dew]

Xata nuke

Amir.. mm

Board shorts haver and rocking nothing else

Maybe like. Coloured sunscreen tho

Marie.. mm

[fast dew]

Probably also similar to this, iirc it was sorta like that for women around that age

Maybe like. Something covering her hair tho, like. What's the word. Not exactly a bonnet

[humble sierra]

Ah shit I forgot "scar over left eye"

Wait no I didn't

[fast dew]

Marie also has a line about saying allons-y

[bitter linden]

Maybe Marie is french then...

[humble sierra]

Unlikely

[fast dew]

Nah she's

Australian

Its clear she's Australian

[humble sierra]

I should do more of these for other Protos tbh

[bitter linden]

You think you could find any overlap for Amir and Mario

[humble sierra]

Mario + Amir
Hecate + Eleanor

[fast dew]

Reckon amir has facial hair but moves too fast and kinda burns it off

I left my tomodachi game open.

[humble sierra]

Runs
Jumps
Enter sewers

Maybe something to do with mushrooms/techrot

Hecate + Eleanor
Green Eye(s)
Into witchcraft
Summons stuff?
Used to be noncombatants but some old guy changed that

[strange plinth]

-# hotsprings/bathhouses?

[humble sierra]

Hanako Arasaka + Aoi
Body is modified by metal-like substances
Distant parents
Japanese
Likes music (MEET HANAKO AT EMBERS)
"Sibling" wants her dead (TennoCon 2024 teasers had a Scaldra member faking being her brother)

I guess I gotta watch Holby City to figure out similarities between Quincy and Trieve Blackwood Cambridge's character

And Melissa Medína has more roles than Trieve but doesn't seem to be anything more than a few small lines?

[tall echo]

The regular hair would be gone too

[fast dew]

Different type of hair

Facial hair can get really thin

Easier to burn off

[tall echo]

How old was amir again weren't there canon ages

[humble sierra]

Just for Kaya I think

(19 in 1999)

[tall echo]

Well anyways amir seems to be in the age range where beards tend to not look good so he'd probably shave

[pearl axle]

are you trying to figure out what exact real life cringe hobby scene he'd be in lmao

[humble sierra]

No we're trying to figure out the overlapping part of the Venn diagram between Mario Jumpman Mario and Amir Beckett

[bitter linden]

They both use a gun?

[rancid horizon]

Am I the only one who thinks the drifter would just die in 1999, because how foreign our diseases would be to someone from an un-trackable amount of time in the future?

[unique talon]

In sentients' vision, how do they see Caliban Prime?

[rancid horizon]

Like imagine escaping your personal purgatory, killing space hilter, stopping a time loop, finding a lover, only to die from something caller "The Common Cold"

[unique talon]

https://tenor.com/view/duviri-warframe-dominus-thrax-begin-again-spiral-gif-17147585142359123507

"begin again.."

[pearl axle]

so we know the hex plays d&d but there's actually a cringier nerd activity they could've been doing in 1999

they could be larping vampire the masquerade

eleanor would be so into it

[restive river]

That’s what revenant proto is doing

[fast dew]

Yeah I imagine being voidinfested probably stops that

[celest needle]

get off the damn table

[humble sierra]

It would be more likely that we'd be carrying a whole bunch of evolved diseases that the past hasn't ever experienced and we'd be patient zero of a plague

WARFRAME MENTIONED IN THE WILD RAAAAAH

Post is about "Media that (intentionally or otherwise) Pavlovs its audience into feeling a certain emotion upon hearing a single phrase with no other context."

[restive river]

Omg i remember watching that and getting spooked

[radiant pier]

Plastic Models

[humble sierra]

Yeah I cut off the screenshot of the extremely handsome replier, but he mentioned a specific sequence where she sees his undead body saying "Hey kiddo" but with her voice, just like how this entity in Warframe will use the player's form when saying their childhood nickname.

[radiant pier]

I was gonna say Gundam but like.....he seems like he'd be a nerd for....

super robot wars

[restive river]

Such a good show ngl

Isn’t Amir’s hobby video games :?
He’s even making a game

[celest needle]

I love eldritch horror that isn't tentacle monsters with teeth, mouthes or eyes

or just gore and dark lighting for no reason

https://tenor.com/view/gif-warframe-man-in-the-wall-khra-oull-gif-17887468980133872559

[restive river]

Most we got for wally is like
Dust

Dust and walls and limbs

Tbf the murmur are also his attempt at being like us

[dusk temple]

Of all of Wally’s forms, I like his literal man in the wall form as it’s a twisted version of the Vetruvian Man which I just find cool.

[restive river]

It is very cool

[celest needle]

"The man in the wall must me a metaphor right?"

[lean garden]

this reminds me of the "Winnower is a metaphor" from destiny

the writer who wrote it basically said online (paraphrased):
""The Winnower is a metaphor" I say, as I drive car into a tree"

because surprise surprise, that mucker aint a metaphor

[blissful wraith]

Are there really any lore behind why we didn't get so cool ships like assault carriers, destroyers, frigates and personal fighters for the Tenno

I don't know, it felt lacking

[lean garden]

we are a guerilla strike force, why do we need any of that

[strange plinth]

mhm
big advantage of the tenno is showing up unannounced

[blissful wraith]

Because we're not really a guerilla strike force anymore right? And space warfare is so cool EVE Online, elite dangerous and such

yea we do need analog type stealth fighters

[lean garden]

when did we ever stop being a guerilla strike force

[pseudo edge]

question
is Roathe proud or ashamed of his rep? he's rather confusing to me

[pseudo edge]

when we began nuking rooms with ease

[humble sierra]

Yeah we have Railjack for "loud assault"

Archwings for "fast assault"

And infiltrating the ships for sabotage and everything else

[stiff fable]

Both kinda

[humble sierra]

Through eternalism both are true

[stiff fable]

He's proud to have it, but ashamed of what it cost

[pseudo edge]

i see

[lean garden]

That doesnt mean diddlysquat when it comes to our operation context

[stiff fable]

The Tenno have the strongest soldiers but are the weakest of the main factions

[humble sierra]

As he gets his memories back, overall he hates what he's done unless you get him to embrace his villainy or accept it and become better

[pseudo edge]

yeah but
actual "guerilla" gameplay is fun

[stiff fable]

We control starbases, but our enemies control planets

[celest needle]

"Oh boy this fortress is so deep underground and unprotected, no Tenno or Corpus will ever get in here!"

The humble Tenno looking to do a riven challenge:

[stiff fable]

Soldiers don't win wars, economics do

[pseudo edge]

that's rather odd
considering we can stop time with brute force, open gates to the sun and such

[celest needle]

Well our enemies outnumber us tenfold and one dead Warframe means a lot of good things for them

[pseudo edge]

they outnumber us, but they are outmatched

[stiff fable]

Let me put this in perspective: the Tenno can kill a million Grineer easily

The Grineer can produce ten million replacements in that amount of time

[humble sierra]

Weakest because we don't have the numbers.

While we could regain control of one planet, the enemy could have already seized three others

[pseudo edge]

couldn't saryn's infection do something about it tho

[stiff fable]

No, because the enemies aren't stupid

[humble sierra]

Yeah at one small plant maybe, then it gets contained

[stiff fable]

Grineer fight infested too

[humble sierra]

And we have no clue where all the enemy bases are

[stiff fable]

Which is a million times more infectious that Saryn's spores

[humble sierra]

The Kuva fortress was hidden

We didn't even know the queens were real

[stiff fable]

We also don't target the enemy's main battle lines

Most Grineer or Corpus are killed by the other side

[humble sierra]

There's a whole Corpus city on one of the planets

[stiff fable]

Yeah, Corposium

[pseudo edge]

that a real thing?

[stiff fable]

Oh yeah totally

[pseudo edge]

gas city?

[stiff fable]

Separate

Corposium is like on Pluto

[humble sierra]

Imagine Coruscant from Star Wars

But blue

[stiff fable]

We actually have a very limited view into Warframe's setting

We've never met an active rail jockey

[pseudo edge]

never seen it
i haven't unlocked that tier of nerd

yet

[stiff fable]

We avoid all but three colonies

[strange plinth]

there's a massive city visible from pluto proxima that might be corposium

[stiff fable]

When there are hundreds to thousands of independent colonies supposedly, which we're fighting to protect

[humble sierra]

Yeah imagine if DE had infinite resources and have unique assets for every set of nodes, they could really cook sci-fi wise

[pseudo edge]

so here's one thing i dont get
what is exactly our purpose?
the lotus just sends us from planet to planet, killing things

[stiff fable]

To keep the Grineer and Corpus fighting each other forever

[pseudo edge]

we dont seem to be doing our job very well

[humble sierra]

The yellow circles and lines are lights from cities

[pseudo edge]

that's pretty cool

[stiff fable]

It's going very well tbh

[humble sierra]

Yeah, neither side is winning, meaning neither side is dominating the system

[stiff fable]

Most of their weapons programs are either scaled back or scuttled

[humble sierra]

We keep things in balance.

[stiff fable]

Or stay in the experimental/limited phase

[pseudo edge]

but they will continue to fight forever

[stiff fable]

That's what we want tbh

[pseudo edge]

oh]

[humble sierra]

Fomorians for example are designed to be like planet killers. The mere radiation if one explodes on the surface of a planet would render a massive area completely inhabitable for centuries

[pseudo edge]

i misread

makes sense now

[humble sierra]

So we target stuff like that

[stiff fable]

When they're not fighting each other, they're expanding by absorbing the independent colonies

[pseudo edge]

speaking of fomorians
what would happen if they both just let loose

[stiff fable]

If DE took the safeguards off? We'd start losing relays again

[pseudo edge]

well, we would win ofc but

[humble sierra]

Gameplay wise nothing, DE has safeguards

[stiff fable]

We lost half of the relays in like a year originally

[pseudo edge]

we wouldn't
DE wouldn't want to keep baro in strata relay forever

[humble sierra]

It used to be that relays would be destroyed (as you can see in the map)

[stiff fable]

Ahhhh, no, we rebuilt Strata

[strange plinth]

-# tbf some of those were intentional

[stiff fable]

It was like the second or third to blow up

Yeaaaaaah

[pseudo edge]

ik
ive heard that players tried to manipulate baro locations

[stiff fable]

Yeah

[pseudo edge]

by just letting the relays get bombed lol

[stiff fable]

They were going to blow up every relay before Pluto

And lock new players out of relays entirely

[pseudo edge]

that's even funnier

humanity has some of the most creative ways to be cruel

[humble sierra]

Luckily, Baro saved us all by making a deal with the devil

[stiff fable]

It basically would have culled the playerbase before the big 2019 cull

[humble sierra]

Now only some relays are destroyed

[stiff fable]

Or Duviri start

[pseudo edge]

that one i havent heard of

[stiff fable]

Railjack's development was very rough

Lots of players bailed

[pseudo edge]

is*

[stiff fable]

No, current railjack development is fine

I know you're trying to be funny but you just misread

[pseudo edge]

-# my b then

that happens a lot
-# as you may have seen
please continue

[stiff fable]

But yeah railjack had delays and delays

Main story was paused for like a year, too

[pseudo edge]

the new war time?

[stiff fable]

Before that

[pseudo edge]

wow

[stiff fable]

Basically between The Sacrifice and The New War DE had a hard time

[proper barn]

It was

[stiff fable]

Scarlet Spear didn't work right

[proper barn]

7 days then 1 day then 1 hour then 1 minute.

Oh you meant gameplay.

[stiff fable]

That too oh my god

Crafting railjack parts too a whole week

[pseudo edge]

wonder why scarlet spear never made a comeback
like botb

[pseudo edge]

💔

[stiff fable]

Squad link didn't work

And couldn't really be made to work

[dire mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/elrond-lotr-lord-of-the-tings-lord-elrond-3000years-gif-13229890

[pseudo edge]

i took the old necramech grind
5 days for me

[stiff fable]

You know how Stalker mode is kinda buggy in BotB

[pseudo edge]

didnt know it was that bad

[stiff fable]

Squad link was that but for entire squads

[pseudo edge]

never seen bugs myself

[proper barn]

It's way easier now.

[dire mountain]

I still have my op-link in my gear

[stiff fable]

(Some of the BotB bugs are funny, like semi permanent five person squads)

[proper barn]

You can just get the parts lmao.

[pseudo edge]

yup
im almost convinced to go make bonewidow

[proper barn]

DE actually is scared by it ajd doesn't wanna do it agian.

Cuz of the like hate at the time.

[stiff fable]

Honestly it should just be retooled into The New War part 0

[pseudo edge]

the loot cave

[stiff fable]

Scarlet Spear ground section, Gas City Orphix mission, Scarlet Spear railjack section + smashing the heart crystal

[proper barn]

The rj section also wasn't bad.

It would be better with Current RJ.

[stiff fable]

It's just squad link that was the problem, the mission itself is cool

Basically still exists in the Sentient Anomaly, too

[strange plinth]

prelude to war is already there
just add some proper gameplay segments rather than just cutscenes

[stiff fable]

Yeah, but it's also the actual war soooo

[celest needle]

I wonder

How many corpus would it take to defeat a Murex of sentients?

or is it just a instant loss

[stiff fable]

Are we letting the Sentients hack Corpus systems?

[pseudo edge]

so a group of sentients is a murex?

[celest needle]

big ass sentient ship

[pseudo edge]

oh yeah they can do that

roathe told me that recently

[celest needle]

I'd say yeah

[stiff fable]

Then, yeah, instant loss

Sentients just point 'n' click the Corpus

[twin wigeon]

You saw how Alad V folded under 0 pressure

[pseudo edge]

i c

[celest needle]

-# 0 pressure

[stiff fable]

That's why the Sentients are so powerful, and why Tenno weapons are all normal guns and swords

[pseudo edge]

i mean
alad tends to just follow the lead of the strongest one in the room
which is rather fair

[celest needle]

Zero

totally none

[dire mountain]

I don't think we have a name for a group of sentients

[twin wigeon]

He wasn’t even in harms way

He prolly was on corposium

[dire mountain]

Honestly negative pressure thats light work

[pseudo edge]

i thought it was a cull
but uhh

[stiff fable]

Alad actually got threatened waaaaay earlier

[pseudo edge]

a [sentient language word for 'society'] of sentients

[stiff fable]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Fragments/Partnership

[dire mountain]

Wait

[pseudo edge]

been a while since i played the story
why did alad help us again?

[dire mountain]

Maybe Hive? Kind of?

[restive river]

Grineer call em worms

Ironically their only living queen is also called worm

[stiff fable]

Now it perches outside my home. The message is clear. I am to make Amalgams, and if I cross them, the Ropalolyst makes an ash cloud of this city.

If my rivals find out, I'll be executed for treason. What choice do I have but to comply? ```

[twin wigeon]

Bc he likes to be in control and can’t do that with sentients

[stiff fable]

Oh, during Second Dream?

[pseudo edge]

yeah

and natah maybe???
memory's not memoring

[stiff fable]

After Natah Lotus went looking for info on Hunhow's tomb

Alad V guessed she'd be doing that and decided to cut a deal

Because he wanted a favor from the Tenno for the future

Unfortunately for him and lucky for us, he pissed off Stalker's Acolytes by existing and called that favor in right away

[pseudo edge]

alad is not the luckiest guy huh

[stiff fable]

(He deserves worse)

[pseudo edge]

as per usual with our rivalries

like, our second dad
and our adoptive grandfather

[restive river]

Well he’s still alive
So

[celest needle]

without system hacking?

[pseudo edge]

didn't we kill him when he got infested?

[restive river]

Nope

[celest needle]

he got cured

[pseudo edge]

damn

[restive river]

And then he proceeds to live through the new war

Cause of course he does

[stiff fable]

I think eventually the Corpus manage to take it then

[celest needle]

the only sentient boss who truly died is the Sarge lol

[stiff fable]

The Corpus have Cold weapons which is one weakness of the Sentients

[pseudo edge]

grineer vs murmur
who wins

[stiff fable]

Like, if both sides went all out?

Grineer

[pseudo edge]

damn

[stiff fable]

Murmur are locked to one tiny part of a tiny moon

[pseudo edge]

i mean
wally going all out would be unfair i think

[stiff fable]

Meanwhile Grineer control half the solar system

[celest needle]

"Commander, they deployed a Fragmented"

"500 more grineer"

[stiff fable]

The real fear would be Grineer getting Murmur samples, because I'm not betting against them failing to weaponize entropy

[pseudo edge]

5 bombards
and 5... more bombards

[limber hull]

hybrid kuva murmur liches

[pseudo edge]

if Tyl Regor got them though
or so i think; ive heard he was rather brilliant

[stiff fable]

Hm, maybe. Tyl Regor's mostly into genetics? He'd probably be worse around Protoframes.

[pseudo edge]

tyl regor and entrati meetup

i was told tyl almost found a cure to clone rot through his experiments

until we came by

[stiff fable]

Yup

We gave it to Alad V instead

[pseudo edge]

that... does not sound kosher

oh right
forgot salad v was corpus

still

[dusk temple]

Which of the Grineer commanders are even alive anymore? I know Vor is in a purgatory or death and revival due to the Janus Key but I don’t know much past that. I’m also pretty sure Vay Hek is still alive and screwing with Cetus.

[stiff fable]

Yeah it's only Vay Hek right now

And Tengus is around somewhere

[dusk temple]

And then there’s The Worm piloting the burning ship.

[pseudo edge]

And they still have half the solar system for themselves

[dusk temple]

Somehow. It’s a miracle that The Corpus haven’t toppled them. But I’d chalk that up to all the infighting in The Corpus.

[pseudo edge]

And I suppose "throwing more clones" is a viable strategy in a war

I just thought
Warframe designs are mostly Ballass's, right?
Does that include heirlooms and deluxes?

[dusk temple]

Ah yes, the age old “we have more men then you have bullets” strategy.

[stiff fable]

As of now yeah that's likely

[pseudo edge]

I can kinda imagine Ballas hunched over some parchment sketching like
Mesa heirloom

[strange plinth]

yareli pandea was made by hunhow
dunno if there are other specifics

the deluxes are case-by-case canon
heirlooms probably just. aren't

[pseudo edge]

And Styanax deluxe too

"This is imperative for them to work"

[radiant pier]

most skins def do not have a lore reason

but it's still fun to imagine an orokin having a weird fixation on F1

[dusk temple]

They dug up this old thing called Gundam when cooking up Gauss Moto

[humble sierra]

The Hydroid and Sevagoth Deluxes are canon to each other, if not actually canon

The darkSector skins are almost definitely non-canon

[strange turtle]

Likely isn’t though, since Corposium was built on a warm world and Pluto. Isn’t

[humble sierra]

Pluto could be warm now

[strange turtle]

Pluto is small and cold, and organic tissue does not fare well in its extreme climate. But the merchant spacemen always seek opportunity for profit in regions where others dare not travel. Robotic proxies act as security in the largely unmanned manufacturing facilities that operate in the area.

We were young, but the work made us old. Our backs ached, our hands bled, the sun tortured our skin.

[humble sierra]

Well all that means is that Corposium is probably even grander than the stuff on Pluto's surface!

Assuming it's not just a symbolic city

[strange plinth]

if it was just warm and didn't mention the sun, i'd say it could be terraforming equipment that's broken or changed
but yea pluto doesn't get much sunlight

[strange turtle]

There’s also the fact that expansion into the outer areas of the system is meant to be this big, recent (relatively) development

Which doesn’t really gel with the Corpus starting out in one of said outer areas

[unique talon]

So in lore wise: if we had to pick the worst villain possible (in a good narrative sense), who made the most hideous acts possible.. who would it be and why?

[wicked oyster]

Ballas cause I haven't read all of berserk yet

[daring tusk]

scrat in ice age

[opaque zenith]

I also need to read berserk till the end to form an opinion lol

[cunning ore]

Griffin

Don't blame that he turn dark cause he lost his 422 in the hand of an old pernoble

[undone jacinth]

this aint really a comparison

[rustic gate]

Does zephyr have period?

[pale cedar]

[undone jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-oh-really-lies-why-you-always-lying-stop-lying-gif-7432913009127585308

[dark compass]

She's a bird

[fast dew]

Was that a necessary question

And. No. She wouldn't.

[humble sierra]

Why specifically Zephyr

[fast dew]

Of all warframes

[heady quest]

This is just Sedna lore tbh. The grineer here are stationed so that they would be the first to expand outwards to the unknown

I hope one day, one of the “in between updates” will be the great world expansion, adding in many of the more relevant places as missions. Maybe even expanding the newly developed mission types that only have one or two nodes 💀

[strange turtle]

If you just look at the fragments, yeah, with a maybe on Pluto’s

[heady quest]

Like guys be fr. What if we can have a mission looting the ruins of Altra? What if we can sabotage the garbage disposal networks on Eris to stop feeding the infestation there? What if we get ascension mission or new archwing missions protecting the junctions from being captured. Guys guys guys what if we get a rescue mission, rescueing grineer defectors from the Saturn 1-6 prisons on Saturn?

So many places can easily be turned into missions creating a much more coherent world building

Still don’t understand why the isolation vaults weren’t connected with whispers

Could have gotten more necramechs 😭

[strange turtle]

But if you go back to the old starchart descriptions, which are largely still canon to some degree, with a few aspects swapped around, there’s a general idea of the further out planets (other than Neptune, for some reason) being less settled and more “recently” expanded to

[heady quest]

I also see it that the inner planets are the more civilized places and the outer planets be more cold and barren with just giant industralized places

[strange turtle]

But now that each of them have a more solid role in their respective civilisations to talk about in the fragments, it just doesn’t get emphasised as much aside from those two

[heady quest]

Like the corpus having giant manufacturing facilities and the grineer have giant weapons research bases there

[vestal vine]

Question

[opaque zenith]

Answer

[dark compass]

A witty but ultimately unhelpful remark

[vestal vine]

Are the Zariman Angels really ded

[pale cedar]

They're made from dead people

[vestal vine]

A friend told me they're alucinations of the drifter created by the void because of the trauma

And all the stuff we get from them is actually given by the void

[dark compass]

It's void mutated people

[vestal vine]

Why is everything just being sent at the same time

Apolocheese, some messages are bugged

[pale cedar]

Angels are just dead people taking too much Void

[dark compass]

It's like if you tried to incarnon a person

[vestal vine]

Can they make over a million dps?

[dark compass]

Surely

Otherwise they wouldn't have been seen as so dangerous

[cunning ore]

I got a question: How exactly a person turn into a void angel? I mean the process, which part will be transformed first? Are they really dead or they stuffed or transformed into sth else?

[opaque zenith]

The confusion comes from being a alive thing made from dead people, is like kinda a zombie

[vestal vine]

Maybe the prolonged exposing time

[dark compass]

They're dead people whose body and soul have been ravaged by void

[pale cedar]

.

[dark compass]

The mind is pretty influential in the void

So they're also extremely warped

[vestal vine]

Wich is unlikely, cus the void doesn't respect time

[vestal vine]

Duviri's the best evidence

[cunning ore]

Yea i ponder if the transformation act like the viruss causing zombie thing

[vestal vine]

Is not like the tennocyte at least

[opaque zenith]

The specifics on how it's done i wouldn't know, tho

[dark compass]

It's void zombies (the reanimated type of zombie)

Oh well

I can fix them

[opaque zenith]

Just can tell the start (madness and death) and the final product (angels)

[cunning ore]

Same. I really curious at it since i want to start writing of Zariman like a fiction. But i don't know how exactly the transformation process. Like symptoms or other things

[pale cedar]

They're Ghosts that take too much Void

[cunning ore]

Mr. Lorebook, if you in the POV of a person being transformed into a Void angel, how would you write?

[opaque zenith]

Well the first thing is madness, but only if you have a child

[cunning ore]

By any chance there a mutated?

[pale cedar]

The only reason the Holdfasts didn't turn is because instead of continuing to feed off of the finger they started feeding off of us instead

[cunning ore]

Then what after that?

[opaque zenith]

Then you die from any normal thing (starvation, someone defending themselves from you, void beam), turn into a ghost, and "drink from the reliquary", then angel. Again, no idea from the specifics

[cunning ore]

Feeding off of us? What does it mean? I quite not caught the meaning of it

[pale cedar]

Holdfasts need Void energy to not turn into Angels

They were taking it from a bad source that was turning them into Angels

[cunning ore]

So you mean that after that The Angel of Zariman happened and they got fed by our void energy?

[opaque zenith]

And aparently is a passive thing, so it won't consume the tenno or give anything negative while feeding

[pale cedar]

Not originally

After R5 they do

Which is why they lose the scars

[opaque zenith]

I'd argue that it's since the quest end and R1-5 is them gradualy losing the scars as progression goes

[limber hull]

Yeah, i recall they say our energy is like a warm light

[cunning ore]

Okay it clearly my mind a bit of what happened

Since i still want to write in the Void angel POV, it still abit dull in the middle time of the Void Angel transformation. Like how there a break for the Tenno to be found and when the Holdfast was revived

[opaque zenith]

DE is not much of the type to give details, so things get open to theory reqalm. But if you wanna more official references, there's the Zariman audiologs that shows a bit of Kira transforming into an angel (in voice only), and amnesia is a thing in the holdfasts

Opening Ranking Up Menu
Quinn: "We couldn't remember much of what happened, but the time of the... accident is clouded for us, like cryo-fog. It is as if the Void had to erase in order to create. There's material the angels secrete that functions like Aya. Yonta believes our lost memories are in there."

[cunning ore]

Okay, i think i gotta check back at it 🏃‍♀️

[opaque zenith]

Zariman Audio Logs: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDmrv5FhAWj9V8R6HNlxbeuTiSfgp7hqz&si=456rfFZkLlfmW9y2

[cunning ore]

The cryo-fog kinda giving the idea of like how Tenno also be put in cryo pods thing

Should i add it in like Void also got some connections to the Tenno like a link?

[opaque zenith]

K, i didn't found Kira's part, so you'll have to dig some loretuber covering the Zariman arg

[cunning ore]

Okie 🏃‍♀️

[opaque zenith]

Now I honestly didn't get what you asked so I'll just say that afaik the cryopod tech seems to work just like the usual cryo trope in fiction, a frigde that don't age you and that's it.
But, creative liberty and all that

[restive river]

They were feeding off a piece of Wally
Now they feed off our piece of Wally
We work like a filter or prism ig

[restive river]

Idk if this helps but the angel’s minds don’t really seem to be their own anymore and iirc Quincy mentions to not look for friendly faces
Sounds like once a void ghost feeds and transforms it’s completely warped
At least as far as we know

They seem feral, only wanting to feed
Only direction they maybe have is Wally maybe conducting them and that’s why they appear in the labs but we. Don’t really know
Teshin says he’s their master
But how would bro know that

[cunning ore]

I see

[restive river]

I’d like to think there’s some remnant of the void ghost beneath and that maybe we could save some of them but
Yet to be seen and may be impossible

[cunning ore]

I think imma try if i could come-up with all those information, they are valuable. Thank everyone

[turbid kestrel]

Your username makes me understand how crying is a free action

[cunning ore]

wait, it used to have to pay for crying?

[opaque zenith]

Well... at a time, after 4 revive, you had to pay for futher revives with you and your wallet crying. I'm not sure if it's about that tho

[rigid compass]

His name is peak

Dont let lotus propaganda fool u

Ballas is the nicest person ever

[ashen pulsar]

he’s been veiled

[rigid compass]

My great uncle ballas taught me how to ride a bike how could u say that about him

[ashen pulsar]

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/HDpFQajWwAAl1o_.mp4

[pale cedar]

He was kind to you

But you only saw the good in him

In secret while you weren't there he did terrible things

[fast dew]

Hey chat is that a gap, right? I aint schizo am I
-# my mate threw the screenie at me just now and I kinda just realised

[celest needle]

Looks like it?

Check another screenie

[pale cedar]

You are both Schizo and correct

[fast dew]

Genuinely he never opens his mouth so like

This is the only one they got of him 😭

[narrow pendant]

could also just be the heavy one sided shadow

[fast dew]

True, which is why I asked yall

[narrow pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/albrecht-entrati-gif-3191941303944791684

normal teeth

[fast dew]

Hhm

God that smile is weird lookin

His teeth are too white..

[narrow pendant]

wally f'ing with the lighting to make him appear bad

next time he will cast yellow light specifically on his teeth

[fast dew]

No having perfectly white teeth is. Weird

[turbid kestrel]

Lies

[fast dew]

Artificial

[narrow pendant]

teeth whitining isnt hard to come by these days already youd expect the orokin to have something even more convenient

[turbid kestrel]

No such thing as perfectly white teeth

[fast dew]

You reckon he had that in 1999 😭

[turbid kestrel]

Big dentistry propaganda

[fast dew]

I feel like more games need to be weird with their teeth

Like okay I get it if theyre mega rich but like

[narrow pendant]

built into his hat trust

[turbid kestrel]

they’re trying to line their pockets

[narrow pendant]

he bites into his obols

those entrati gold coins

[fast dew]

You aint getting perfectly straight cis white teeth without intervention 😭

[turbid kestrel]

He should travel to 2001, no specific reason… 👀

Probably stop a disaster that wasn’t supposed to happen

[fast dew]

Yeah so he can hear the peak song one more time by daft punk

[fast dew]

Ah, but if it never happens, he wouldn't have gone back to change it

[turbid kestrel]

Never Forget

[narrow pendant]

libertatia was never the same again

(their USA)

[turbid kestrel]

Huh?

[narrow pendant]

ah yes Hamburg the only unchanged real world city

[turbid kestrel]

I’m guessing hypothetically my home state of Maryland would go by a different name in the warframe universe

[narrow pendant]

Argon Burger meal probably forces it into existence lmao

[turbid kestrel]

CE drifter weapons whilst in operator mode

Sun and Moon

[narrow pendant]

oh yeah thats quite odd how they are named that when even in 1999 its also sol and lua lmao

they still use sun and moon for the celestial body categories and were more original than us and gave our sun and moon a different name i guess

[turbid kestrel]

Seems something is trying to 911 the new relay station

[narrow pendant]

do you think a failed painter was involved

[turbid kestrel]

Don’t know

[narrow pendant]

since a WWII equivalent is hinted

well it could be any kind of war tbf

doesnt have to be world wars

[turbid kestrel]

Iraq equivalent???

[narrow pendant]

would be libertatia not rus

i wonder if the warframe universe ever got half life 3 lmfao

[turbid kestrel]

I wonder if there are several remakes of MW3

[narrow pendant]

real reason albrecht invented time travel

[pale cedar]

It couldn't even get HL2 let alone 3

Whatever studio made it lorewise got nuked

We can't have nice things

[narrow pendant]

but with the magic of eternalism- gets shot 89 times

[worn cypress]

where are those clips from in the game ?

[restive river]

The murals behind necraloid

[worn cypress]

where ?

[restive river]

Necralisk

On Deimos

[pale cedar]

Before the labs

[rigid compass]

We talking about albrecht now 😔 🥀

Lotus too

[pale cedar]

Well you see

It would've stayed Ballas if you simply replied on time

Imagine having a life in 2026

[quiet falcon]

Why don't we see any other tenno when playing through Warframe's story?

[pale cedar]

You do

[restive river]

Technically, we have
Rell is the biggest by far
But in the New War while Operator is trapped in their own history we meet and talk with some other Tenno briefly
We also see some in the Erra cutscene

[pale cedar]

We also see a Rhino in New War while we were busy doing RJ stuff

[restive river]

Mmhm

Erra cutscene had a lot of Tenno it in technically

[pale cedar]

Yeah

7

[restive river]

I’d say Operations are the closest we get to fighting alongside others lore-wise

[restive river]

I don’t just mean the ones protecting Lotus
There’s the Excal and Mag primes iirc
And the untold amounts in the Railjacks
Technically

[ocean geyser]

Is Nezha even a kid btw 😭
Genuinely can’t remember
Im pretty sure he isn’t but still

[fast dew]

He is. Based on a kid. And that's enough for me to never come anywhere close to it

[ocean geyser]

Understandable

[celest needle]

Is being a scaldra member the best progression you could take as an enemy faction?

Like sure it's a time loop but your only threat are the techrot and singular tenno

[dark compass]

A protector spirit for child soldiers

[ocean geyser]

Idk man
The Scaldra look sorta messed up under their armour

[fast dew]

And

They are Nazis

[quiet falcon]

Who's Rell again?

[ocean geyser]

That’s a life of eternally fighting tv monsters and genetically engineered magic space ninja super soldiers
While constantly surrounding yourself with the Cancer Gas

How is this good progression 😭

[dark compass]

Me when our commander organizes a concert full of queer people only to turn it into a public execution

[quiet falcon]

And I'm more so trying to figure out why we don't see more in the modern/present day

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-are-we-the-baddies-surprised-gif-19176339

[restive river]

Autistic tenno who saw Wally for what he was, sealed Wally away with himself in Harrow to protect everyone

[fast dew]

OH

NO DUCKY NO WAIT

[quiet falcon]

Aaaah, so I see

[fast dew]

YOU KNOW HOW I MENTIONED HOW AUTISTIC PEOPLE CAN REALISE [other people's] ABUSERS AND BAD PEOPLE

[quiet falcon]

Oh, don't we also fight Chroma?