lore-discussion

[fast dew]

Now is this in reference to Sam and DG or Lotus and teshin, because both work

[marble timber]

Yes

Doom Guy also destroyed his refiners

I loved that scene, made me laugh

[humble sierra]

Doing the Amir consent chat (I realized he was the only one whose kiss scene I didn't have) and why is it the longest and most in-depth one?

[pearl axle]

probably because he's the most uwu baby one and the game wants to avoid making it sound like you bullied him into it

[fast dew]

"No >:[ dont"
":3"

[dark compass]

"I'm talking full responsibility-"
"Bet"

[humble sierra]

Any ideas on what else I can add to this Orokin shrine?

[celest needle]

-# a knife in Ballas's face
Ayatan Sculptures?

[humble sierra]

Good idea!

[stiff fable]

Nihil's Oubliette

[marble timber]

Ballas’ Namar staff

And Tenshin head sculpt thing

[humble sierra]

Right next to the tea-set

[marble timber]

Oh I didn’t see it

https://tenor.com/view/smol-smolcat-smolcatcoin-smol-cat-coin-roswell-gif-4869195751936463478

[humble sierra]

And I got one of those elsewhere...

[marble timber]

Oh my god

[stiff fable]

Oh, the Orokin cell decoration too

[marble timber]

We got Teshin-on-a-stick before GTA 6

[dire mountain]

Some knives

[stiff fable]

[twin wigeon]

why he got a knife prime

[stiff fable]

Knife Prime has a crit buff

[loud oriole]

Knife Prime deals more damage to Albrecht Entratis

[arctic zenith]

can i ask a very silly question

[stiff fable]

I guarantee you it will be an improvement over most of what we talk about here

[cunning orchid]

oh no

[arctic zenith]

what are the lore implications of this very informative tier list

[stiff fable]

No Teeth is actually a category that can't exist

The Vallis Undermind update has you eating mushrooms

....eating.

As Dagath.

[arctic zenith]

atlas is only neck though

[stiff fable]

[undone glacier]

you dont need teeth for mushrooms

[stiff fable]

You do need a digestive tract though and we can see Dagath doesn't have one

[arctic zenith]

hence why shes in no teeth

[undone glacier]

no shes only missing a face

[arctic zenith]

and what does a face have? teeth.

unless you consider that hole a mouth

then dentures could be in order...

https://klipy.com/gifs/warframe-thinking--k01KQGXD1T4E1QTYRZDK61QNCRC

[celest needle]

wolf
"brushes and flosses"

[arctic zenith]

you must keep the canines sharp yk

that flesh wont bite itself

[wanton ice]

look, incisors are important for wolf activities.

[arctic zenith]

this is true!

[stiff fable]

You can actually look into the gap, the entire surface is smooth. No throat.

[arctic zenith]

hm...so maybe dentures i see...

maybe a tube on the top

[wanton ice]

like a capri sun?

[arctic zenith]

fruitm pumch..

ahem. Anyways

[celest needle]

wolves do NOT know dental

[arctic zenith]

this is why they go to dentist

i do not see the issue here

[wanton ice]

there are two wolves inside you. one brushes and flosses. the other also brushes and flosses.

[twin wigeon]

Kullervo has Several Cavities

most if not all of them are on his body

[undone glacier]

does this imply he is made of teeth?

[celest needle]

how does Nezha have cavities, he looks well groomed

[arctic zenith]

these are insightful things being said...

[twin wigeon]

no itt implys he has several holes aka cavities

[arctic zenith]

looking and being are two different states

nezha eats too many candies i fear

https://klipy.com/gifs/never-impose-on-others-what-you-would-not-choose-for-yourse--k01KQGY1A73PSH942VJ4TEEQW2X

[arctic zenith]

after further consideration, this shall be taken into account in the new teirlist next week

[pearl axle]

voruna and valkyr don't brush they chew on those dog/cat toys that clean their teeth

[arctic zenith]

riveting!

[pearl axle]

what about follie though I feel like she should be "cavity" given uhhhh she's candy coded

[stiff fable]

She's one of those child therapists who hands out giant things of candy to kids so they don't freak out in her office

[pearl axle]

...yes you should add "gives you cavities" and put her there

[arctic zenith]

this is truly groundbreaking developments

[rigid compass]

Whats the current status on narmer and the sentient fleet? How many are left? If they have some sentient production like we see in Kahl missions will that be important or is that just to show they're keeping their numbers stable like grineer and corpus but they just a lot smaller. I assume that they would be permanently a faction but are sentients with them or is there maybe also a separate sentient faction potentially?

[celest needle]

How is Steel Meridian still friends with the red veil when THIS is in the other room

[rigid compass]

Ik red veil does capture and torture defectors but do we know if this is actually a defector

Also steel meridian probably ignores them killing defectors because being allied with them is more important and the defectors killing might just be very rare.

It could also be a few red veil that do that but who knows

[clever linden]

The stalker does not ignore his Acolytes. The Necros one has spoken to him directly. Redditors need to stop passing around this myth

Oh nvm someone mentioned lower in the comments lol

[narrow pendant]

[lethal flume]

Because people used to called him as femboy

[restive river]

-# They used to call him a slur

[fast dew]

-# and then was suddenly shocked as to why they got banned

agrees to TOS that says don't be an asshole
be an asshole
shocked as to why they were banned

[marble timber]

Grendel probably has a lot of cavities

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-grendel-grendel-prime-gluttony-gif-11777233413535425678

[fast dew]

Xata...

[marble timber]

Hm?

[violet storm]

For context, Xata means truth

[restive river]

You seen him eat lephantis?

That’s somehow more terrifying than him eating an entire ship lol

[cunning ore]

When Gael doesn't have to protect the painter girl

[restive river]

Zero thought
Just action
Full consequences

[cunning ore]

Wait what??

That real?

[restive river]

Old bug lol

[cunning ore]

Oh

[restive river]

I believe it was primarily shown on a devstream but also snuck into live for a bit?
It’s been uh. Almost 7 years?

[pale cedar]

The better question is

Where was Grendels Archwing?

[restive river]

Ate it

Grendel on launch was quite buggy

[fast dew]

Xata means truth, its a thing in the lorechats to say it instead of true lol

[restive river]

Tbh the game as a whole was a whole lot buggier with the old guard lol

[pale cedar]

I still wish this didn’t happen because this is the reason we get Grendel can eat universes

[fast dew]

I always feel a little joy at seeing an idiot's account get banned. Like shit dawg maybe you shouldn't have tried to chargeback on plat

[pale cedar]

People really took that joke out of context

[fast dew]

Sometimes jokes arent taken as jokes and its evil

Watching as my two favourite games to engage with get murdered for the sake of "muh joke lore cool"

[pale cedar]

People think Pablo was being serious

[fast dew]

Pablo god damn you

[pale cedar]

DE are known for making tons of jokes

[marble timber]

Ah

[fast dew]

No clearly the reason they stopped making Raids is because Raids is AIDS, thank you pablo

https://tenor.com/view/feel-that-that's-true-feel-that-thats-xata-xata-warframe-meme-gif-15531284589461707381

[marble timber]

Be a good Tenno.. use protection. Because Raids.. give you AIDS

https://tenor.com/view/extended-mag-shotgun-gaming-reload-gif-21067761

[fast dew]

Long ass shotgun shell lol

[pale cedar]

I don’t even think many people were asking for them back just a vocal minority

[marble timber]

I find the animation oddly satisfying

[fast dew]

This tends to be the case

[fast dew]

It has force in it, the movement feels real

The slight friction of it going in makes it feel a lot more real

[marble timber]

Ik whoever made it also makes animations for actual games

[fast dew]

True...

[marble timber]

They just make dumb animations online as well

[fast dew]

Sometimes you gotta be silly with it

[marble timber]

Xata : )

[fast dew]

The lead up to TDA was full of silly animations actually that was awesome

[fast dew]

Xata nuke

[pale cedar]

Actually Xata is truth not the lesser known as true

Voidtounge be weird like that

[marble timber]

We need a full Voidtongue alphabet at some point

Or key

[pale cedar]

One was made

By the community

[marble timber]

Is it up to date?

[tall echo]

Xata... truth. It began long before us-

[pale cedar]

As of recent Voidtounge it is

It’s the what we know

[restive river]

LMAO

[pale cedar]

Who got banned?

[fast dew]

Generic person who does dumb shit™

[restive river]

If we learn voidtongue I require voidtongue magicks

[fast dew]

Not a singular identifiable person, but its something that has happened prior

[tall echo]

Grimoire

All of dante

[fast dew]

Pretty much, we haven't had any new translated words since like. God. Whispers?

[restive river]

That’s 8 and as mods :p

[fast dew]

The Executor track from the old peace has void tongue but its not translated as far as I know

[restive river]

I want our tenno utilizing and evoking voidtongue

KaRis an area
Boom
All enemies blinded

[tall echo]

I meant the grimoire itself

[fast dew]

Do you think the tenno would like chicken nuggets..

[restive river]

Aight where’s the Oull setting

[marble timber]

Dino Nuggies

[tall echo]

Who doesn't

[marble timber]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-nuggets-spinning-dino-nuggets-nuggets-nugget-gif-16880077528166687073

[restive river]

If they were squares

[fast dew]

YES

[fast dew]

Cubes, gotta be cubes

[marble timber]

Honestly I’d like to see some of the Operator just being a kid

[tall echo]

But they aren't really

[restive river]

We should have gotten more of that in the Old Peace

[tall echo]

...they'ren't...

[fast dew]

With Loid here actually treating them as a kid [respectfully] we might

[marble timber]

I mean, if we want to get really deep into it

[tall echo]

Whermst

[marble timber]

Biologically they can still have the emotional whatnot and whatnot of children

[fast dew]

They are, all but physically as in their body has existed for a long time, a kid

[marble timber]

Even if they are mentally mature

[restive river]

But they are lol
Physically they are
Their brain hasn’t fully developed since it was frozen
Mentally their experiences are older than their body, sure but they’re still physically a kid and that effects their brain

[marble timber]

Biology could still leave effects

[fast dew]

Even then, they slept for those thousands of years

[marble timber]

Better worded, but basically what I wanted to say

Thanks

Words hard

[fast dew]

I like how Loid treats us as a kid but still respects our autonomy

[restive river]

Body frozen = brain frozen = kid chemistry = developmentally a kid

The Tenno are wise beyond their years

[marble timber]

They literally got a old soul

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[restive river]

Thanks Mom 2 🙄

[fast dew]

He'd step in if we're gonna seriously hurt ourselves but he aint gonna restrict all of their autonomy

[restive river]

I mean realistically what’s he gonna do if we wanna do something

Be upset?

[pale cedar]

Zylock Prime

[fast dew]

Tell us not to and try to compromise 😭

[restive river]

I mean I’d stop for that, sure but physically he ain’t doing nothin

[pale cedar]

Aggressive negotiations

[restive river]

He would never!
Not with the Operator
Everyone else is fair game tho

[fast dew]

Like a good parent, he'd find a way to compromise like he does in the old peace imo

[marble timber]

I just want a short mission of the operator just acting like a kid. Would anyone else want that?

Playing games, eating Dino nuggets, whatever it is

[restive river]

I wish Old Peace just had more of that lol

[marble timber]

Would be bittersweet I’d think

[restive river]

We have a whole montage that goes by way too fast for no reason

[marble timber]

Yeah

[fast dew]

Angry walk

[restive river]

It’s really sweet but we don’t even process it

[pale cedar]

You had a short mission with Operator acting like a kid it’s called Old Peace ending

[marble timber]

I wouldn’t mind another New War length quest

[restive river]

Oh we are for sure getting one lol

[marble timber]

That’s called Crashout mode

[restive river]

Maybe not this year but we will get one

[pale cedar]

Child having a tantrum

[restive river]

Likely to finish the void war

[fast dew]

End to the void war saga

[marble timber]

Yeah, I just wish Old Peace was one

[restive river]

And then one to finish tau. Whatever it will be

[pale cedar]

Valid tantrum is still a tantrum

[fast dew]

Theres so much building up for the end of the void war saga..

[fast dew]

True... xata nuke..

[restive river]

Unfortunately that quest is instead about what the horrors of war do to a kid!
Which is why that montage should have been lingered on

[marble timber]

Quest was really good, but I think it would of benefited from a slower pace

[restive river]

Many quests could absolutely benefit from that

Even the new war to an extent

[marble timber]

Yeah, the last half felt rushed in some parts

[ashen pulsar]

The problem is, like the hex, it was one of those quests that was partially to showcase the new game mode and how it works. If they kept going, it could’ve become really repetitive.

what makes the new war a continuously interesting quest despite being so long is that they keep going forward

[tall echo]

they do that too often now imo

stop introducing new game modes for a bit and leave more space for story

[errant crystal]

Guys is jade the reason stalker hesitated in second dream?

[tall echo]

he forgot who jade is by then

[narrow pendant]

its stalker questioning if he is also controlled or is himself a child controlling a frame

so for that moment he was unsure if he should kill us or not

[ashen pulsar]

yeah... not every quest needs to represent or come with new modes

[fading mist]

wait, now that I think about it, were we fully transferenced into jade? if so we hold hands with stalker huh

[fast dew]

Yeah we were, we also felt the pain of giving birth :(

[pale cedar]

No

We are never actually inside Warframes

[fast dew]

Nemesis why do you undermind me

[fading mist]

our tenno can debate balls kick or birth hurts more

[fast dew]

We felt the feeling of holding Stalker's hand, but we our tenno didnt actually hold it as the child

[pale cedar]

Yeah

Transference actually being inside the frame would also be very weird

[fading mist]

I didn't say physically inside, wdym

[pale cedar]

You said fully transferenced into Jade and that we held the hand

We weren’t in Jade so we didn’t hold hand

[fading mist]

don't we technically controls her

[tall echo]

we help her

[pale cedar]

Yeah from the chair

We were sitting in the chair the whole time

[fading mist]

but explain the "help"? what did we really do in that sequence

[tall echo]

we help her

[pale cedar]

We help her get the baby out

[fading mist]

by what, transference as her, only gave her strength etc

[pale cedar]

Transference-facilitated delivery

[fast dew]

We helped push

[tall echo]

can't give a more specific answer bc it's not given to us

[pale cedar]

We also aren’t doctors

Or a nurse

[fading mist]

maybe like the hex

void magic I guess

[errant crystal]

Ah makes more sense tbh

But isn't he a sentient frame???

[pale cedar]

All Warframes are sentient with enough motivation which is why your frame moves in TSD

His motivation at the time being killing you

[tall echo]

he didn't know that

is it really that crazy for a character to not be omniscient for once?

[marble timber]

When we transfer into our Warframes, we still feel everything they do. Because we are moving our consciousness into the frame

So whenever it gets hurt, we feel it to a extent

[pale cedar]

Yeah

[tall echo]

yes

[errant crystal]

I seee ty

[errant crystal]

Lowkey forgot that happened ngl

[near locust]

where does the operator poop

[restive river]

Unknown

[near locust]

DE, we need answers

[restive river]

Nah

Drifter could in 1999 tho
They have bathrooms

[near locust]

but that's drifter

not the operator

[restive river]

We never see origin system toilets afaik

[marble timber]

They probably don’t need to

Being void stuff or whatever

That or I’d guess their chair/suit also absorbs waste

[near locust]

or it's actually just a massive toilet

[restive river]

They’re still human children

[marble timber]

Yesn’t

[restive river]

Their DNA is saturated in the void, they aren’t all void

[marble timber]

I know

[restive river]

Not yesn’t 😭

They’re literally referred to as human

[marble timber]

There probably is some impact void has on their biology through

Don’t think it’s out of the question considering all the stuff they do

[fast dew]

Probably some freaky shit

[marble timber]

So them not needing food/to take a dump isn’t implausible

[restive river]

I mean
The sentient pieces are having some effect

[near locust]

maybe they use their void powers to disintegrate the shit

[fast dew]

Why are we even talking about this

[tall echo]

child humor

[restive river]

It comes up eventually

[marble timber]

Toilet talk is destined to happen eventually in any setting

It’s a canon event

[fast dew]

True.

Actually TDA's concept art had it
-# for the unaware thats the latest game in the doom series

[marble timber]

Xata

I’m going to say that a lot now

[fast dew]

Its fun to say

Xata.... truth...

Xata. Truth. It began long before us, we who now live our perfect and dull, endless lives. It began long before these moon-palaces and body-markets hurling around our golden Sun. It began long before our light-coil thinkers, our radiation wars, our oil, smoke…. It began with us.

The continuity and its twin, wanderlust. The need for unseen shores deep in our marrow. No judge, jester, queen, or king can escape this old blood. We are nomads, eternal. And when no ocean, mountain, or sky could contain us… our gaze hungered star-ward. Afar, they mocked us with their brittle light. Winking and jeering like dangling Ayatans forever out of reach, illuminating the truth: immortal as we are – we die with the Sun. That's where I come in.

[marble timber]

I’m going to make everyone sick of it soon enough

[celest needle]

Xata Nuke…

[fast dew]

FORMATTING WORK YOU BASTARD

[tall echo]

*us

[fast dew]

Not here, we say it all the time here

[tall echo]

I don't

I'm difference

[pale cedar]

Scrap afraid of truth

[restive river]

Imdifference

[tall echo]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-entrati-albrecht-entrati-entrati-walking-gif-17751004503897443807

[pale cedar]

Scrap might be Wally

[tall echo]

https://tenor.com/view/albrecht-warframe-warframe-1999-gif-2313027359489077640

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-entrati-albrecht-entrati-entrati-walking-gif-17498260713109834464

[marble timber]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[tall echo]

waddle down
s m i l e
waddle away, waddle waddle

being able to favorite gifs has given me too much power

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[marble timber]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[tall echo]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-dark-side-palpatine-sith-gif-14304484953492859842

[pale cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[strange turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[marble timber]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[cosmic badge]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[woeful vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[ocean geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[narrow pendant]

what did i miss why is everyone getting jade light'd

[pale cedar]

Green

We should probably stop before we get killed for spamming it

[zenith ore]

[celest needle]

We're in a omni fissure

They're all running jade please help

[narrow pendant]

jade light execution comin up

knowing that there is beef between baro and parvos makes him selling pictures of his "daughter" even funnier

[pale cedar]

Xata

[smoky gulch]

There is beef between them?

Hmmm, I can see that, after all Baro is a paragon of vanity

[radiant pier]

@fast dew @zenith ore

[zenith ore]

Mhm

[radiant pier]

I need your opinion on something really important

[fast dew]

Mhm, Baro holds parties and parvos isn't allowed

[zenith ore]

Sure

[fast dew]

Yeah?

[radiant pier]

so I got even more plat yeah

[fast dew]

Christ yeag

[zenith ore]

Yes?

[radiant pier]

just spent 600 plat on 6 tanks

and my base is the drifter's camp

is it.....bad that I have 2 of them in my landing craft? I feel like I'm separating them from their family

[fast dew]

Dw

[zenith ore]

...

[radiant pier]

they're stuck here, it's entertaining but it feels rude

[zenith ore]

You're a heartless monster

[fast dew]

They're tanks used by nazis, here's a experiment now

[radiant pier]

you're right I should put them all together

[fast dew]

To see if the children will retain that belief, you separate them

[zenith ore]

Nah man just do what u like to do

[radiant pier]

6 baby tanks I adopted and took under my wing

nono, I mustn't use the kids as my experiment

[fast dew]

Don't get too shocked when they kill you but ight

[zenith ore]

Aside from that part who would spend their plat on 6 tanks?

[fast dew]

Me tbh

[zenith ore]

Xd

[fast dew]

I have. Quite a few drones

[zenith ore]

Few means all

[fast dew]

Yareli prime's skateboard actually

I have that goober as a drone

[zenith ore]

I want

[radiant pier]

I will put them back together as a family

[zenith ore]

You get it

I'll be happy af seeing them move around my orbiter

[radiant pier]

I am extremely happy with this arrangement

give me your username

[zenith ore]

Tek_k1j6

[radiant pier]

I have 5,000 plat

[zenith ore]

Damn...

[radiant pier]

don't worry Thomas, I already know your username

make room for a tank

no...2

[zenith ore]

No wait

[radiant pier]

wat

[zenith ore]

Nothing

[radiant pier]

shit I accidentally bought more tanks for myself

that's a joke

[fast dew]

WUH

[radiant pier]

make room for tank

s

[fast dew]

More for the corner to terrorise loid with

[radiant pier]

I can gift to people on different platforms right

[fast dew]

Yeah pretty sure?

[radiant pier]

Thomas what's your username

wait which one do I send it to

[fast dew]

Uhhh ignore the double send but it would be the one with the Albrecht hat

[radiant pier]

SHIT I ACCIDENTALLY BOUGHT MYSELF 2 MORE TANKS

I ACTUALLY DEADASS DID IT AFTER MAKING A JOKE

[fast dew]

Are you deadass 😭 dawg is suffering

[radiant pier]

ah whatevs

8 tanks, still sending you the tanks tho

[zenith ore]

What are you people on about

[radiant pier]

I have 8 tanks now

[zenith ore]

No way, really?

[radiant pier]

GET ON YOUR DAMN GAME I ALREADY SENT EM

[zenith ore]

You can't make ts up

[zenith ore]

NO WAY YOU ACTUALLY DID IT.

Damn I thought you were joking

Thanks man!

[lean garden]

huh?

theres tank domestiks???

[zenith ore]

Apparently

[lean garden]

cool

[zenith ore]

Ik!

[lean garden]

Joel if you have still too many

[radiant pier]

WHERE ARE THEY GOING

THEY'RE ALL LEAVING

[lean garden]

I know where you can send 1

[zenith ore]

YOU GAVE ME 2??

[radiant pier]

WHERE ARE THEY GOING

[pale cedar]

To war

[radiant pier]

THEY'RE LEAVING

[ashen pulsar]

enlisting with kahl

[radiant pier]

@lean garden give me your damn username NOW

[lean garden]

BauThesaurus

[radiant pier]

THEY GENUINELY LEFT

[celest needle]

Funniest shit I've seen all day lol

[pale cedar]

They might never return

[fast dew]

The family

[pale cedar]

Might get Infested and have to get put down

[radiant pier]

AHAHAHAHA

THEY'RE EVERYWHERE

[zenith ore]

You gave me a faulty tank

[ashen pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-the-flowers-twd-carl-sad-gif-13413320

[radiant pier]

OKAY NO MORE

[fast dew]

I hope folk know that today was the day I realised waverider is a aquablade lol

[radiant pier]

THAT'S 1.5K PLAT DOWN THE DRAIN IN LIKE 15 MINUTES

[radiant pier]

I'm not sending you two@lean garden

shit....they'd be alone tho....

[fast dew]

Dw Bau can have one

[radiant pier]

BUT MY TANKS

THEY'D BE ALONEEEEE

[zenith ore]

Am I the drain? Thomas is the drain? The tanks? I'm disappointed in you

[pale cedar]

Thomas the tank hoarder

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-george-point-of-mice-and-men-gif-16131327

[radiant pier]

I have 8

[zenith ore]

Joel the tank father

[fast dew]

Joel the tank mother

[radiant pier]

okay screw you, you're getting 2 and then I'm done sending tanks

[fast dew]

This was a bad idea 😭

[zenith ore]

Definitely

[radiant pier]

the likelihood of 4k plat being spent within the next year is astoundingly low

[fast dew]

But never impossible

[radiant pier]

OKAY NO MORE NO MORE

[pale cedar]

If I don’t ask for a tank I don’t leak my location to Thomas meaning he can’t tank me

[radiant pier]

THAT'S LIKE

you want tank? NO I MUSTN'T I WON'T

[zenith ore]

Aight times up. Imma go play with my tanks

[radiant pier]

NO

[pale cedar]

War of Tanks

[radiant pier]

COME TO MY ORBITER

YOU TOO @fast dew

[tall echo]

what is happening

[pale cedar]

Tanks

[zenith ore]

But I was cooking food

Still im

[radiant pier]

WHY ARE THEY ALL IN THE OPERATOR ROOM

[pale cedar]

I wonder if I should give someone a tank

[radiant pier]

OKAY NAH I'M HOPPING OFF

[zenith ore]

They shall destroy the oprater and take over the orbiter! ALL HAIL TANKS

[radiant pier]

I'M HOPPING OFF

[tall echo]

why are we destroying oprah

[zenith ore]

It's an evil plan

[radiant pier]

okay I think that's 1.4k plat

ykw, worth it

[pale cedar]

Thomas is there a Necraloid skin I have a plan?

[zenith ore]

They're just moving around my legs it's so cute

[radiant pier]

I hear baro mods sell well after awhile so I'll just rely on that from now on

[zenith ore]

Damn right it is. I wish I were that rich

[radiant pier]

and prime sets

[rose estuary]

How do you get those?

[radiant pier]

plat

[zenith ore]

Plats,

[pale cedar]

Market

[radiant pier]

they're like 100 plat each

don't ask why I have 8

and why I sent 6

[tall echo]

only for companions, and only for standing

[radiant pier]

they're cute ok

[rose estuary]

Valid

[zenith ore]

Oh shi I almost forgot

@radiant pier GOOD BOOOY

[tall echo]

I have the entire set and never use it

[radiant pier]

spent about 2k plat this week

probably the only plat I'll be spending this month

not really interested in either new deluxe skins

and I grind for new warframes anyway I'm good

[zenith ore]

Hello good

[tall echo]

I'm evil

[zenith ore]

Hello evil

[pale cedar]

The only thing I’m excited for in Jade Shadows 2 is having a Warframe for on call crew

[fast dew]

Yeah lol

You buy it off necraloid

[smoky gulch]

Lotus could be mocked that "yo mama is so fat she almost ate sun"

[fast dew]

Heheh

Xata...........

[rigid compass]

Necraloid goat fights for us 🥹

[fast dew]

Now off to draw Nihil

[ashen pulsar]

specters

[celest needle]

What is the contract of agreement when it comes to liches?

Like do you just have a grineer or corpus or coda working for you and being buddy?

[fast dew]

Because its murmay and i need to do shit

[rigid compass]

https://tenor.com/view/il-riait-gif-21336186

[rigid compass]

Converted adversaries fight for u cause u spared them?

Also since all kuva liches can be converted does that mean theres an inherent relationship between kuva and defecting or defected are the only grineer viable to be kuva liches

[radiant pier]

@lean garden I NEED you to take a photo of my tank sons/tank daughters

[lean garden]

Man

Ill boot up my com

[pale cedar]

Gonna get a tank and make it trapped behind a wall with a Necraloid skin see who survives

[tall echo]

defective loyalty gene isn't necessary to switch sides, see kahl

[rigid compass]

Who said hes not defective

[tall echo]

he was willing to die for the queens

[rigid compass]

And?

Cressa tal prob was too

[ashen pulsar]

the question is, was that solely because he didn't realize there was another option

[rigid compass]

He was loyal till realized they aint shi

[radiant pier]

tank

[ashen pulsar]

grineer lifestyle doesn't really give the option to defect

[rigid compass]

Yeah

[tall echo]

meridian regularly does mass breakouts

[ashen pulsar]

you're born and raised on "queens are life"

[radiant pier]

tank

[rigid compass]

Yuh

Lol

I been said this

[radiant pier]

tank

[pale cedar]

“We Maggots live… not long. We hope more life… work… kill… maybe Queens notice… Maybe… they share… the Old Blood. We are maggots. But eventually even maggots can fly.”

[ashen pulsar]

as a comparison, north koreans dont have a loyalty gene that forces them to stay in north korea or vote for kim jong un

[pale cedar]

NK voting isn’t even real democracy

[ashen pulsar]

yep

what im saying is, there may be hundreds of thousands, even millions of grineer without the loyalty gene that just dont realize theres another option, that the queens are evil

[rigid compass]

Lol

Ye i said before that loyalty gene can be broken and defectors have always had it broken even if they fought for the queens

Grineer whos gene isnt broken can never defect but ones who have it broken can defect when they realize they can leave

They just get made and only know serve the queens

The corpus and grineer when tenno spread anti queen propaganda and cause half the grineer population to defect and fight for the tenno so we lowkey take over half the system and start growing our own grineer army who we treat with respect and make valdurs clone their leader

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-mr-boss-smiling-friends-mr-boss-smiling-friends-alan-gif-18160162125023876979

[pale cedar]

Foundry made Grineer when?

[rigid compass]

Specter sonion

[lean garden]

Specters arent exactly the same as actual grineer

thems just specter particle mimics

[rigid compass]

We aint making sentient beings with an anvil son. Warframes dont count

[lean garden]

so... you want a non-sentient grineer army

with a non-sentient copy of the chillest Grineer Prime we know

[rigid compass]

Im saying we cant make em in a foundry bro. Not that we should get a specter army

Unless u can make sentient beings in a foundry (warframes dont count)

[tall echo]

???

"foundry made grineer when"
"specters"
specters aren't grineer"
"I'm saying we can't make grineer in the foundry"
where

[ashen pulsar]

they said "We aint making sentient beings with an anvil"

[tall echo]

after for some reason bringing up specters

[ashen pulsar]

specters are the closest to a foundry-made grineer.

[celest needle]

What is life on a crewship even like?

It just seems like long massive hallways, lockers and torturing sollari

The hell is there to do? Eat air?

[pale cedar]

Steal
Kill
Repeat

[celest needle]

Without the Tenno in the mix

[strange turtle]

Not crewships

Those are the little ones that you blow up and hijack in Railjack

[celest needle]

What are the big mission ones called again?

[zenith ore]

[pale cedar]

Yeah, Corpus make money partly by stealing

[zenith ore]

Forward artillery?

[narrow pendant]

tf

thanks for the 2 extra None ig

[strange turtle]

Capitals

There’s 3 variants

Obelisk, Pillar and Stanchion

[fast dew]

Oh sick

[celest needle]

Consumption?
There are no visible cafeterias on the ship

And it seems way too big for any cafeteria to work

[pale cedar]

Not visible doesn’t mean they don’t exist

DE won’t show something if it isn’t required for gameplay purposes

No

It still falls into the it isn’t important for gameplay rule

[tall echo]

food

possibly edible food

[pale cedar]

Hopefully not edible food

[celest needle]

Discord sucksssss

[pale cedar]

Ok

[tall echo]

yes

[celest needle]

Stupid networking issues

[pale cedar]

Skill issue

[celest needle]

Life on a capital ship?

[pale cedar]

Yeah

We spend our time cutting them down anyway

Can’t eat when you’re dead

[tall echo]

says you

[rigid compass]

Grinner ones are called galleons so maybe corpus call them too i dont remember what they are in railjack

[tall echo]

.

[pale cedar]

Capital ships

[sly pagoda]

yeah the nature of Warframe is such that ships generally leave out the "day to day life" stuff, Even our orbiters should probably have more rooms. But overall most people probably rarely go deeper than armory on a regular basis unless using the helminth.

Its kind of like how we never see evidence of the Enterprise having a crapper near the bridge, Simply because it was unimportant for the needs of the TV show.

[pale cedar]

Most people if DE added it would just Bullet jump past it and ignore it

[narrow pendant]

finally

the augments return in belly of the beast

stalker sumdali too, new items are a event honoria and jade's promise for your base

[smoky gulch]

So, how many folk are out there that died and came back in Warframe? Just got through Nightcap and thought how death just doesn't take root in this story

[narrow pendant]

the zariman syndicate are recreations by the void that thanks to you didnt turn into angels if you count that

[strange plinth]

alad v like 3 times

[celest needle]

And is still alive btw

[strange plinth]

mhm

[smoky gulch]

Teshin hit the death flag way too many times and had to reset by actually dying, Lotus had near-death experience, Ballas had to be amalgamed to survive

[celest needle]

Bro survived the new war as a commander and the infested

It's a miracle he isn't gone

[narrow pendant]

i mean all bosses count since killing them doesnt stop them from coming back, like tyl regor in tyana pass

but from actual evidence of death then vor

[smoky gulch]

Vor getting voided storywise

[celest needle]

Those are set before their boss fightsb

[fleet furnace]

vor, kril, alad V, ballas, are the immediate ones i can think of

[narrow pendant]

ordis if you will lol

[fleet furnace]

i mean, could then argue most cephalons, tho ordan does die before that point so

[smoky gulch]

Oh, also Umbra

[narrow pendant]

i mean his death in new war

i still didnt check how exactly he came back lol

[pale cedar]

He didn't die in New War is how he survived

[fleet furnace]

i think his little form is more just one device he has access to, and his actual brains installed in the orbiter itself

[strange plinth]

just his physical body exploded, wherever he actually is in the orbiter remained

[narrow pendant]

ahh

[strange plinth]

whatever his one botb dialogue is 'benefit of being a cephalon, can be in two places at once'

[narrow pendant]

guess drifter wasnt aware of that which ok ig they could be unaware

[fleet furnace]

would make sense if drifter didnt know about that at that point in time, still learning about many of the things he missed out on

[pale cedar]

Alad in the first assassination was given pity is how he survived you hear him crying on the floor at the end when we kill Zanuka

He Survived being Infested because we chose to cure him

[narrow pendant]

well they were on the zariman too so they wouldve known of cephalon melika

ig that wasnt being taught lol

[fleet furnace]

yeah, tho im sure as far as drifter knew ordis was the drone rather than the ship, even if he knew that cephalons could be installed as ship components

[pale cedar]

The only way to kill Ordis would be destroying the Orbiter

[tall echo]

teshin didn't die, lotus did die

[fleet furnace]

did lotus actually die? thought she was just on her deathbed until we gave her the shards

[narrow pendant]

death affects sentients differently, they become eidolons

at least more powerful sentients do,

[pale cedar]

Eidolon form is what happens when a Sentient dies and she was that thus did die

[fleet furnace]

fair enough

[smoky gulch]

Time in Duviri had to be rewound, with Drifter sacrificing domain over Duviri for Teshin life

[tall echo]

right, that

[smoky gulch]

Yeah, man has so many death flags you can forget the time he actually ded

[tall echo]

I just assume ppl mean he died before getting to duviri at this point

[steep blaze]

What happened to teshin?

[pale cedar]

I think Scrap means after he fell, not during that scene

[tall echo]

duviri paradox, he got executed

[smoky gulch]

But he got better :)

[tall echo]

dembeor is still right though

[pale cedar]

Yeah

Thrax killed him with slam slamming him out of existence

Drifter slammed fist and brought him back into existence

[ashen pulsar]

he’s alive now, that’s what matters

[pale cedar]

Xata

[narrow pendant]

the fist slam is likely a visual cue for us to know when theyre making a loop but imagine if theyre angry and slam the table and create one by accident lol

as seen in the hex

[pale cedar]

Wouldn't happen

Drifter can't create loops

[strange plinth]

so far drifter hasn't created any loops, just reset them

[narrow pendant]

extended the one in 1999 though

[ashen pulsar]

just activated it iirc

doesn’t loid tell us that albrecht extended it or smth

[strange plinth]

yea

[narrow pendant]

loid reports that his readings tell him that the loop encompass now the entire year

in the last sequence of the cutscene its drifter slamming the ground, then the digital clock freaking out with requiems appearing briefly too

[pale cedar]

“What happened?

Drifter,

I can make no sense at all of these readings. Your site of temporal injection has somehow shifted. Your loop now encompasses the entire year of 1999.

Albrecht's interference is to blame, no doubt. What does he feel you need more time to achieve? He surely must have given guidance, however cryptic!

I can offer one service, at least. I discovered a clandestine blueprint among Albrecht's personal effects, for a Warframe so secret it was never named. It is yours.

Loid”

[strange plinth]

particularly the

What does he feel you need more time to achieve? He surely must have given guidance, however cryptic!
points to it being albrecht, as that's. exactly what he did

[narrow pendant]

can albrecht just control that with his mind lmao

[pale cedar]

He made the thing he can edit it

[narrow pendant]

yeah but that was a less than 1 min timeframe of drifter choosing to save the hex before its midnight

like thats extremely on the fly

[strange plinth]

Albrecht Entrati: "If you cannot sacrifice even this much... how will you do what comes next?"
Arthur: "What's he talking about, Marty?"
Drifter: "Maybe I won't."
way more than a minute, it was just finalized in the reactor room

[narrow pendant]

hm fair ig he felt already like drifter wont leave them behind and prepared the extended loop right then

i wish we could see ballas reaction to seeing jades children lmao

[clever linden]

3 more days

[ocean geyser]

Consider: Sirius and Orion Prime

If they get trailers it’ll be of him malding
Or maybe that and Jade and Sorren yapping

[ashen pulsar]

<@&778745217037238293>

[ocean geyser]

Nefarious
Don’t check this guy’s profile

[loud oriole]

those were two words that shouldnt be together

[pale cedar]

Good bot

[true bobcat]

Ordis is pleased to help the Operator!

[cosmic badge]

Someone should make an emoji to where we can give ordis headpats i wanna do that

[tall echo]

that's already a thing believe it or not

[cosmic badge]

Oh?

[tall echo]

ordispet

animated emoji so only nitro users get to pat him

[cosmic badge]

Yay

[limber hull]

hmmmm

What if entrati is after stalkers baby

An infinite source of energy, that was also made with much love

[humble sierra]

Oh that could definitely be a good explanation of the Future Protos

[restive river]

Idk if they’re an infinite source of energy lol

The child is very unique though and I could see Albrecht trying to utilize them

If he made the protos with the purpose for them to watch over them or something I could see that

There’s also ofc timeline placement, how would he even know about them, etc etc

[strange plinth]

the kid would be powered by the void, same as other warframes

[limber hull]

The son is essentially another jade, an we know how much they juiced her. All those eximus units and weapons

Her energy is veryyy powerful

[restive river]

I mean that’s more so the jade light and
We don’t know what the kid has lol

Stalker got some of the juice too

The jade light is very powerful
It ain’t beating Wally

[twin wigeon]

Even if wally could get hurt by jade beams, he could just pull up in a Vessel and just squish the kid

[restive river]

Like Whispers!

Idk if he can pull up in a physical form, even with the tethers
He never does anything when manifesting as us, only when he’s in someone/something else

[stiff fable]

Correct! Going back to Whispers for a third time, he doesn't have any physical presence in the universe

[restive river]

When the wall form pulled up we also still saw him as us
And if he has a physical form that he has to make then he could just make another to escape, ultron problem

[stiff fable]

He needs the Murmur to gather enough to start developing mass

[twin wigeon]

Or even if he can't summon a Vessel, wally could just XATA FASS XATA and retreat

[restive river]

That mass would then be the fragmented who tethers the strand, yes?

[restive river]

Yeah fr
I don’t think the jade light, as powerful as it is, will do anything against that

[stiff fable]

If Wally showed up in front of the kid(s), it'd be as the voice in the head

[restive river]

Sidenote that the fragmented are also the dealbreakers, who may or may not be us but were at minimum human

[twin wigeon]

Jades light is more of a physical force going up against what might be a extra-dimensional entity

[restive river]

Tbh the fragmented could be us or Baro mayve
Like
Just to name two known possible deal havers

[stiff fable]

Parvos

[restive river]

Yeah, after chains he isn’t physically there

[restive river]

Maybe!
It would explain his void

[stiff fable]

That Voidtongue he talks is leading to something

[twin wigeon]

oh i thought the Fragmented were just all the people that were consumed when their universe collapsed

[stiff fable]

That's probably the Murmur proper

[restive river]

If you’ve ever had a visual hallucination before
That’s Wally
But
Real cause he’s saturating your you

[stiff fable]

The Fragmented Ones (in Duviri at least) are specifically dealbreakers

[restive river]

The dust is the animating factor iirc

Their food, energy, electricity

[twin wigeon]

oooooo

[restive river]

I can see the murmur clumping together to form the dealbreaker aka the fragmented who then tethers the strand

[twin wigeon]

maybe the fragments have little strands of wallys influence and the Fragmented Ones (the boss) hold down the strand

[stiff fable]

It's probably something like that

Like, the Fragmented One is MADE of the Fragmented Tide

[restive river]

I’ve always interpreted the murmur as like
Skin flakes he can control, hive mind logic

Not literal skin flakes btw

[twin wigeon]

so its definitely that the murmur are wallys vanguard or the forefront of his presence, allowing him to force his way into places

[restive river]

Like that’s what they are to him
Minor pieces of him he sends to open the door

There’s also the labs where
Bro is the walls

And the floor

[twin wigeon]

and the column

and the ceilings

[restive river]

And the general architecture for the non-albrecht half

Love how brutalist Wally is tbh

[twin wigeon]

the Great Indifference tilesets i think

[restive river]

It’s very
This guy if he was a place

[twin wigeon]

very wall

[restive river]

very man

[twin wigeon]

i like it

[restive river]

Picasso

[regal ingot]

I have some tinfoil hat theories if I may.

[twin wigeon]

Oppenheimer more like

[stiff fable]

oh it's all tinfoil here

Actually one more thing about the design of Whispers I love:

[restive river]

None of us are sane, my friend

[twin wigeon]

ehhhhh im more a tinsuit kinda guy

[stiff fable]

The Murmur are weak to radiation, and the corrupted tileset is brutalist concrete for days

Albrecht's Warframe of choice to set against it is the nuclear concrete frame

[restive river]

Why isn’t he lead

[twin wigeon]

theyre also weak to electric and albs portions have lots of electricity flowing

[regal ingot]

Let's start with valkyr. Originally she wasn't a "Rage frame" but when Alad V disected her she let out a primal scream that resonated with the void forever rewriting her frame dna into the new "Rage version" <---- just a theory don't be too mean.

[twin wigeon]

maybe not influencing the void but more her helminth strain , permanently altering future recreations of her warframe to still be flayed

[stiff fable]

That's literally as good an explanation as any

We don't know what Gersemi's original skillset was

But we make copies of Valkyr, not Gersemi

[twin wigeon]

The helminth was like hm i like tthis design, lets go with that and just ran with it

[stiff fable]

(though there's also the option that she did in fact have the rage melee skillset originally and Alad just cut off her decorative armor)

[strange plinth]

potentially what happened with voruna
depends on if ballas primed the one that killed tuvul

[stiff fable]

lord he kill her Operator's fashion

Death to Alad

[twin wigeon]

Salad V is forever tormented no worries

[regal ingot]

Maybe but I like to call this event "the scream" anyways onto the 'next' tin foil hat theory (because I imagined a really bad ass scene with it)

[stiff fable]

I went back and read Voruna's Leverian a few days ago, and apparently Voruna's most famous for hunting Orokin during the Collapse

[humble sierra]

That poor Repala Syandana

[restive river]

So after Tuvul she kept going?

[stiff fable]

She wa an Orokin killing MACHINE

[humble sierra]

She killed more Orokin than Stalker killed Warframes

[stiff fable]

She's not famous for killing Tuvul, she's famous for hunting Orokin

[restive river]

So there’s room for Ballas to see her and prime her or make a prime

[stiff fable]

yep

[restive river]

Oh yeah
He wanted the Orokin dead!

I can totally see him priming her lol
But
From a distance

[stiff fable]

We remember her as a primal horror. The pitless devourer stalking burning cities of white-and-gold, slavering for god-flesh. ```

She burned entire cities lololol

[restive river]

Basically Voruna’s one of the best frames and tenno

[humble sierra]

Priming her probably 'tamed her', I imagine leashed her like a dog

and much later he got leashed himself

[twin wigeon]

so after the others destroyed things, she haunted the ruins, killing survivors

[restive river]

What is with this guy and leashes?

[stiff fable]

I imagine Ballas primed her to make her work faster

[humble sierra]

We need a new Arcade Game for Voruna like Flappy Zephyr, but it's Pacman and all the pips/pills are Orokin

[strange plinth]

i'd always figured that her other victims were the other higher-ups in the clerisy based on

Executor Tuvul was one of the ruling Seven and head of the Yuvan Clerisy: high-ranking officiators who enacted the hideous ritual. All of whom... were now all dead, torn apart, all save for Tuvul... now a man pursued.

[restive river]

Sounds like it

Someone had to check for survivors

[twin wigeon]

good woofer :3

[restive river]

YES

[regal ingot]

Nidus and Xaku (the un-frames) not natural frame creation are the last frames in the time line. Like made after everything is dead and gone. The Void cobbled together its own "memory" of a frame and so did the helminth. To keep up a fight after all is said and done. <---again tin foil hat theory

[restive river]

Xaku was discovered during the Old War

And Nidus also existed during the Old War

[stiff fable]

Yeah Nidus and Xaku both have history

[strange plinth]

technically revenant is the most "modern" frame

[restive river]

Xaku is also composed of 3 other frames, all the void did was bring them together

[regal ingot]

Both void and helminth don't persieve time.

[restive river]

Likely conceptual embodiment from the lost void spirits

[twin wigeon]

also the void isnt really involved in the creation of most frames

[restive river]

Ok?
Xaku is comprised of other warframes, they aren’t a void original lol

Xaku likely exists not entirely due to just the void but due to the lost frames
The void doesn’t do anything on it’s own

[regal ingot]

No but it was cobbled together and spit out from the void.

[stiff fable]

Nidus also was created by Ballas

[humble sierra]

Yeah but so was Revenant, kinda

[stiff fable]

"My festering demigod. My Nidus.”

[restive river]

The void doesn’t do anything on it’s own and again, Xaku is a composite of the lost frames.

[limber hull]

the thing i dont get is that, there where tenno inside those? or did they turn off transference when they failed the mission

[stiff fable]

Good question

[strange plinth]

ballas sent nidus off somewhere n he returned prime
he recognizes revenant prime as "fatherless," he'd likely do the same to nidus in that case

[regal ingot]

No but it does seem to love on feeding on emotion.

[restive river]

Xaku originates from the Entrati void expeditions where many warframes were lost, Xaku is all that came back

[stiff fable]

Whatever helps you sleep best at night

[humble sierra]

Very unlikely there were Tenno there

[restive river]

We don’t know when the void expeditions were so we can’t say if they even had tenno

[regal ingot]

Like I said tho it was a tin foil theory.

Moving on to tin foil #3

[twin wigeon]

oh deer

[restive river]

I’m sorry to say but it doesn’t add up lol

[stiff fable]

who mentioned Oberon? :V

[twin wigeon]

i still need his prime ;-;

[restive river]

He needs a new skin asap

[stiff fable]

Heirloom

[twin wigeon]

ask the helminth then

[stiff fable]

HEIRLOOM

[restive river]

I hope so!

That could mean Titania gets one too!

I wanna see them heirloom the weirder frames
Ik we’ll get there eventually

[humble sierra]

Banshee please

I need Banshee to be acknowledged

[twin wigeon]

yk how rebb mentions the Garment Maker when revealing mesas bolero, whats the chance we get a fabric frame

[restive river]

Like
Dagath Heirloom
Xaku Heirloom
Voruna Heirloom
C’mooon

[humble sierra]

Rework + Heirloom please

[regal ingot]

Third wild theory (this one is dumb) Entrainment doesn't stop the infested because he's letting it grow large enough for the indifference to possess it giving it a physical body so we can kill it in the future!

[restive river]

Literal fashionframe would be genius

[regal ingot]

Entrati***

[humble sierra]

There's a theory he's using the Vessels for that purpose, and using the Tau Radiation thingies to trap MITW inside one

[twin wigeon]

uhhhhh the infestation does not like the void, it actually fears it

seeing as it calls us a demon

[strange plinth]

i mean, the infestation is, unfortunately, quite important in the development of the orokin empire
could cause issues if he wanted to prevent it

[restive river]

We could use the tau radiation with him in Neci too

[regal ingot]

Again (I cant stress this enough) these are wild theories. Conversational peices at best. Not trying to start fights.

[restive river]

Nobody’s fighting?

[limber hull]

The vessels had part grey strain right?

[restive river]

One part grey strain
One part helminth strain
One part protoframe/human DNA

[strange plinth]

don't think anyone's trying to fight, just pointing out that there are issues with the theories

[restive river]

Don’t be shocked when you say a theory, tin foil or not and people respond to it lol

[limber hull]

Maybe to fight a godly mind being against the infestations hive mind

[twin wigeon]

hell i might not even be right, just using the theories as an opportunity to get answers for myself too

[limber hull]

Or it has to do with time?

[stiff fable]

Lets be real, we all have absolutely derranged theories that we'll fight over

Some of them end up being right, even

[regal ingot]

Also lastly. (I know alot of you are gonna hate this one)

[twin wigeon]

yeah like cavalero likes dogs

[strange plinth]

-# It was Loid who pointed out the singular attributes of the Grey Strain. How it stimulates growth to monstrous dimensions. Many thoughts converged in me then. What if, through precise biochemical engineering, I could create the equivalents of Warframes, yet built to a titanic scale? Surely such a legion could stand against the Adversary... Assuming, of course, that an Operator could be found.

-# Not long after, the first of my Vessels took form. A giant to battle giants, merging the humanity of the man Arthur, the anatomical perfection of Ballas's Warframes, and the titanic potency of the Grey Strain. My saviors.
the vessels

[humble sierra]

So I think the Leverian uses the lighting from Drifter Camp, because all of a sudden there's the warm glow of the sun here. Peak AF

[restive river]

Wally ain’t a god
But yea he made the vessels for fighting Wally, iirc he literally says this

[stiff fable]

oh that's cool

[strange plinth]

nezha ring in the distance:

[limber hull]

👀

[restive river]

This would actually be amazing for a real Leverian-

Do we have a lightframe?
Other than Mirage who is mire mirrorframe

[stiff fable]

Equinox Leverian where the lighting is permanently half lit

[strange plinth]

jade might be the closest?

[limber hull]

Equinox and Jade?

[regal ingot]

A grineer warframe. I call it zero-000 (grineer naming) as a template of grineer during the "memory missions" I know its not lore accurate but I genuinely feel like we should at least get a grineer frame. (I know its ai get over it)

[restive river]

Omg it could go from night to day…

[twin wigeon]

ew ai

[restive river]

Equinox isn’t light, she’s night and day, opposites, dualism

[strange plinth]

ai is not allowed in the server, i fear

[limber hull]

Still she has a light form, but not really a lightframe

[restive river]

I will not get over the ai, get this outta here lmao

[stiff fable]

So, she's light, because the moon reflects the sun's light

[restive river]

That ain’t a fear that’s awesome
DE is anti-AI

[twin wigeon]

technically Qorvex is a light frame since light is a form of radiation

[humble sierra]

Mostly just Kahl with a few other Warframe's abilities worked in

[twin wigeon]

also Vauban with his Photon strike

[restive river]

So Jade, Qorvex and if you stretch it, Equinox

[limber hull]

Excalibur also uses forms of light, radial blind

[restive river]

Hey so
Why didn’t we get an Equinox proto with the Triad
Literally would have been perfect

[regal ingot]

Never said its original. Just what I think would be fun.

[limber hull]

the sword at least in the CGI is light

[stiff fable]

Wait a minute

How do we count Wisp's 4

[strange plinth]

'i fear' mostly for them
not about the rule or de's stance, fully agree with that

[twin wigeon]

mmmmmmmm

wisp

[restive river]

I said lightframe not frame who has access to light in a ability 😭

[stiff fable]

fair enough

However

[pallid spoke]

IIRC that was made before Exalted Blade got designed and given a physical model.

[stiff fable]

THE LIGHT OF THE SUUUUUUUN

[pallid spoke]

The blade itself is enveloped in light energy, but it has a physical model now.

[restive river]

We don’t have a frame who is specifically based off of light

Closest would be Jade who’s more Jade Light/Angelic light

[regal ingot]

Yet"

[stiff fable]

knowing DE they're going to make a light frame that's basically just Necrozma

[restive river]

Well yeah I’m talking about right now lol

[regal ingot]

To be fair we don't have one based on shadow either.

[limber hull]

and a darkness frame

[restive river]

Oh that would be sick-

[limber hull]

[restive river]

Jade and Stalker are the closest atm to light and shadow

[regal ingot]

Any word on the "Dino frame"?

[stiff fable]

Sevagoth?

[regal ingot]

Undead ghost captain?

[restive river]

Seriously
Why don’t we have an equinox protoframe who’s all about dualism

[regal ingot]

Honestly I just want an Ivara proto-frame

[restive river]

Don’t think that’s coming unless it actually fits
Same issue with shark frame who would honestly be way more likely

[regal ingot]

Furry frames away!

[limber hull]

We don't really have that many protoframes, maybe we get one later

[restive river]

Iirc Follie’s design is like 2 years old?
And iirc sometimes they structure the update around the frame or see if any frame ideas fit an update

[strange plinth]

yea but the triad were all about dualism n equinox would've been perfect there
but no !

[pallid spoke]

I remember that Temple was a frame idea that took a very long time to see the light of day.

[restive river]

We have 15
There’s about to be 65-66 frames thus far
We have a good bit tbh

[stiff fable]

Eh, Roathe honestly made a more interesting balance to the Triad

Sol, Lua and rejection (instead of balance)

The dynamic is good

[restive river]

Had to have Wisp in there, then pick the worst concept for her :p

[regal ingot]

Wild theory 4 Stalker/Sorin isn't playable yet because it's still evolving. Once the Stalker story is completely done the player will finally get a Stalker frame. (I know its wrong but sounds plausible)

[restive river]

Well the next stream is about them as a frame
Soooo

(or frames
We don’t know)

[regal ingot]

Well I know Stalker is playable in Duviri but that's about it.

[limber hull]

I really hope they shot energy beams like in the trailer

[stiff fable]

Stalker's going to be the MC of the next quest

[pallid spoke]

I think the Duviri Intrinsic relating to playable Stalker basically deconfirms Stalker ever being made playable in regular gameplay.

[twin wigeon]

Stalker hates Tenno so def no stalker frame

[strange plinth]

duviri n botb

[restive river]

Oh my bad
I misread what you said!

[stiff fable]

Orion and Sirius will be playable frames though

[restive river]

My apologies lol

I heard stalker will be playable in the quest but I’m unsure on that

[twin wigeon]

itd be nice if we could have the acolyte and stalker helmets

[stiff fable]

they actually could make the intrinsic unlock Stalker's blueprints

[restive river]

Make em free arcane helmets

[regal ingot]

He probably will be. Either that or we gatta protect Sorin from his unhinged progeny.

[restive river]

I still wanna know where we got that other stalker from

[regal ingot]

Also Sirius/Orion = Unframes?

[stiff fable]

https://klipy.com/gifs/waynes-world-78--k01KQK5ZRMJ5J03Z0X7CP35QK4S

[twin wigeon]

No

[restive river]

I do think we will get involved and help since
They want to take him back/kill him

[stiff fable]

They're explicitly Warframes

[twin wigeon]

whats an UnFrame even

[strange plinth]

-# Our former "Unannounced 2026 Update" has been revealed as Jade Shadows: Constellations, a continuation of 2024's Jade Shadows featuring a new Quest that will once again put you in control of the Stalker as he navigates the complexities of fatherhood.

-# Before you step back into the role of the Stalker in June,
both from https://www.warframe.com/en/news/jade-shadows-constellations
just throwing this here, you've probably already seen it

[restive river]

They’re naturally born warframes

[twin wigeon]

wait...

nope nevermind

[humble sierra]

Peaceframes confirmed

[restive river]

“Navigates the complexities of fatherhood” LOL

[strange plinth]

that's one way to describe it lmao

[regal ingot]

The thing that bothers me the most is why did HUNHOW leave his personal prison?!

[restive river]

I don’t think that was on his part lol

They slammed into Uranus

If Hunhow could leave he would have literally ages ago

[stiff fable]

cough his New War dialogue implies otherwise

[regal ingot]

snrkk xD

[restive river]

Oh? :o

[twin wigeon]

Hunhow could leave, he is a huge sentient its not like he couldntt

[stiff fable]

He makes it sound as if he's there on the off-chance Natah starts the final step of the plan

[regal ingot]

Musta landed where the sun don't shine!

[pallid spoke]

Hunhow says that he was "waiting to die" in New War in regards to that.

[twin wigeon]

Hunhow is a sentient, he has no balls

or buttt

he doesnt have any anatomy actually

[regal ingot]

Wow way to kill the joke

[restive river]

He has a womb

[twin wigeon]

He has a womb, apparently

[pallid spoke]

That doesn't function anymore.

[stiff fable]

"I have wallowed here, it is true. Fading in this deep hole, waiting to die… but without release. Held here by a purpose I cannot abandon. That she… is free."

[restive river]

Better than being dead
I guess

[restive river]

All I can think of is him just literally stuck at the bottom of a hole being sad ):

[round remnant]

This got me curious, can we permanently be stalker???

[twin wigeon]

no

[strange plinth]

unlikely

[restive river]

In theory if we ever get him outside of duviri

[regal ingot]

Highly unlikely

[restive river]

There exists a secondary stalker, the one we have in Duviri

[round remnant]

Interesting

[restive river]

I blame Drifter for not thinking to bring him back

[humble sierra]

Imagine playing Stalker frame and then because of Spaghetti code you get hunted by Stalker during a mission

[regal ingot]

Getting a stalker frame is as low of a chance as getting a grineer frame

[restive river]

“An ally from an unknown time and place. Stalker is a powerful force within the shadows.”
Duviri Stalker

[round remnant]

Very well

[restive river]

One already exists in the game though

[regal ingot]

X to doubt.

[restive river]

When are we getting Suit outside of Duviri smh

[twin wigeon]

Kahl of Duty exists

[restive river]

Stalker?
He
Literally exists

Like playable stalker exists

[humble sierra]

We have Stalker as a fully playable character, with a full move set (albeit he's just copy-pasted)