lore-discussion

[tall echo]

brb gotta rename my lex to guilt

[radiant pier]

I am powered by

whythehellnot, ohmygod, and my favorite

"ohgodohshit"

[normal mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/zuko-avatar-the-last-airbender-that's-rough-buddy-funny-reaction-gif-2143103825121898798

[sick scarab]

Hey I just had a thought
Do we have any characters or frames in Warframe that represent alterhuman stuff?

[tall echo]

I have no idea what that means

[sick scarab]

from an alterhuman subreddit with (I think) a decent description of the umbrella:

A place for people who consider themselves alterhuman - who identify as something other than human, or with an alternative human experience.

alternatively look up "alterhuman hub", it'll link you to a carrd with some summaries of the concept

[fast dew]

Mm. Voruna would be the closest imo

Her prime does lowkey do quadrobics

[sick scarab]

elaborate? i know she has the wolf pack stuff, but im not sure i get the connection

[fast dew]

Id say its. Not 1:1, not really, but the whole
Turn into a wolf is pretty strong

Its just very literal

[sick scarab]

also i just realized this may be a weird question to ask in relation to the frames, considering the frames tend to be more "species X" than "human who identifies as species X" lmao

[tall echo]

The definitions I'm finding seem very
Pointlessly differentiating

[twin wigeon]

Quincy is 100% a top i think idk i never romanced him

[fast dew]

True actually

[glacial bough]

The only frame that applies would be Caliban

[fast dew]

Yeah I think thats why don't like him all too much

[sick scarab]

Basically, someone who identifies as something other than human

[sick scarab]

Hmm, I think I could see it

[fast dew]

Sometimes its a spiritual thing, other times its similar to dysphoria

[woven coyote]

Took me a while to find this oldie
https://imgur.com/AuQAahG

[tall echo]

Yeah that's not really a thing with frames

[fast dew]

My disgust with my human body and wish to. Be mechanical is similar

[twin wigeon]

How’s Nero doing with the quest

[tall echo]

Insert meme here

[fast dew]

Man oh boy I sure do hate the weakness with my body

[glacial bough]

The closest frame would be Caliban, and only because he's part not human

[sick scarab]

I don't think Caliban would qualify as alterhuman then? im not sure

[fast dew]

Have I shown you triple threat orbrecht

[twin wigeon]

Qorvex?

[celest needle]

Protea

[fast dew]

I also have cubic Albrecht

[sick scarab]

Hey Thomas, quick question
What about the protoframes? do you think they'd be related to alterhumanity?

[twin wigeon]

No

[tall echo]

Eehhhh

[woven coyote]

Just had the funniest thought
Orbrecht mod for the defect character in slay the spire

[glacial bough]

Definitely not

[tall echo]

YES

[fast dew]

Mm, maybe Eleanor? I wouldn't say its exactly the definition but id say its closer

[devout fractal]

I’m infecting my friend with warframe propaganda to get them to get the game. I have a stupid question but have to ask two

Console or Pc,

And is this game cross platform-

[glacial bough]

Yes

[woven coyote]

Yes

[twin wigeon]

Yes to both

[radiant pier]

cross game platform but tennogen stuff doesn't cross over you gotta buy em again

[tall echo]

[fast dew]

Yes and yes, it doesn't matter what console or pc

[devout fractal]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN YES

[woven coyote]

Yes

[glacial bough]

Yes

[devout fractal]

HAHAH OKAY

[twin wigeon]

Yes

[radiant pier]

we get free stuff all the time also

[woven coyote]

Think you get this chat's vibe by now

[twin wigeon]

Autism?

[woven coyote]

Also joel did you see the moa gif?

[tall echo]

Internet knowledge: "yes" in answer to any question with multiple options means both

[celest needle]

Very

[twin wigeon]

Yes

[sick scarab]

Out of all the protoframes, I was not expecting Eleanor
I was thinking more like Flare
whose arc (from what I can tell) is about accepting who they is

[radiant pier]

yes, it is saved

[tall echo]

Or. All

[devout fractal]

Ah yes I see

[tall echo]

They

[sick scarab]

How do I keep messing that up
Sorry

[tall echo]

First time I've seen them misgendered in that direction tbh

[fast dew]

They are masc so they do get called a He more often

[sick scarab]

I think my brain went "this voice sounds vaguely fem" without realizing "this voice" was actually Lizzie

[twin wigeon]

Temple is misgendered as mostly female no?

[sick scarab]

I kinda link the two together

[tall echo]

No?

[woven coyote]

Lizzie goes by she btw

Flare is they
Lizzie is she

[sick scarab]

Okay yeah then I just straight-up mixed up Lizzie and Flare

[twin wigeon]

Lizzie goes by she when she shouldn’t really be a she and more a they

[tall echo]

I mean.
Flare looks like david bowie
So people default to masc

[devout fractal]

Pff David Bowie-

[woven coyote]

Only if they know david bowie

[fast dew]

Ziggy stardust...

[twin wigeon]

Yeah sorry im only 19 im not too ancient

[woven coyote]

You laugh but...

[fast dew]

Ive known about Bowie since at least 2018

[sick scarab]

Anyways
Flare's arc over KIM feels vaguely alterhuman to me?

[fast dew]

Yeah, nodding, I can see it

[devout fractal]

OH MY GOD

[twin wigeon]

Very nodders

[radiant pier]

Nero are you like

ARE YOU BEING ENAMORED BY EVERY PROTOFRAME

IT'S BEEN LIKE 10 MINUTES

OHMYGOD IT ALL MAKES SENSE NO WONDER ALL THE GIRLS I MET IN MODELLING ARE GAY

[woven coyote]

I mean that is basically rebbs goal

[twin wigeon]

Nero is pan fs

[fast dew]

Never fully recovered from being unable to romance the one protoframe under the gender queer umbrella

Can't be t4t in this economy no more 💔

[radiant pier]

THEY'RE GENIUSES

[sick scarab]

Although admittedly, with the distinction that Flare is less "coming to understand who they are" and more "coming to terms with who they've been transformed into"
Which is a subtle but important distinction IMO

[fast dew]

I agree, yeah

[radiant pier]

alterhuman what?

[sick scarab]

do you need info on what alterhuman is, or...?

[devout fractal]

HAHHAHA

[fast dew]

@radiant pier ^

[radiant pier]

yes

oh cool, thanks

[devout fractal]

I like feminine in general, I am lesbian. Though I’ve technically been with an Enby for a bit

[fast dew]

Theres more nuance to it but thats the gist

[twin wigeon]

Opinion on little duck?

[sick scarab]

A place for people who consider themselves alterhuman - who identify as something other than human, or with an alternative human experience.

i.e. i identify as a goatgirl

Someone else might identify as a robot more than human

Maybe some folks identify with the concept of "Void"

and so on

[devout fractal]

HEY HEY HEY

[radiant pier]

opinion on protea deluxe? @devout fractal

[devout fractal]

… show me a picture

[twin wigeon]

Show US a picture

[fast dew]

Oh those last two are me fr

[radiant pier]

would you like to bear witness to the statements I made regarding her?

[fast dew]

I am a thing piloting the body of a man

[radiant pier]

I am hot both ways

[twin wigeon]

Nem is a 100% alter as they are a book

[devout fractal]

Ssssssureeee?

[tall echo]

I am a threat

[fast dew]

XATA...

[radiant pier]

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST FOLKS, WHATEVER COMES NEXT AIN'T MY FAULT

[fast dew]

Didnt. Mean the capitals

[woven coyote]

Brain piloting the flesh mecha

[tall echo]

I almost typo'd that as thwat which
Isn't wrong either

[fast dew]

Exactly you get it

[twin wigeon]

Flesh and bone mecha

[celest needle]

Is lore discussion still gushing over protos?

[woven coyote]

Always

[twin wigeon]

That is in desperate need of oiling

[fast dew]

Sometimes i get so disgusted by the idea of being human i end up being unable to eat :) its horrible

Evil horrible experience

[twin wigeon]

Pretty nice

[devout fractal]

HOOO MAMAMAAAAAA

[twin wigeon]

Def better than her current skins

[fast dew]

Her prime is fun

[sick scarab]

It's commonly tied to LGBTQ circles, and especially trans circles, due to how many folks have similar experiences of "coming to learn who you are"
Not to say it's inherently LGBTQ, just that the experiences are similar, and that you'll often find LGBTQ spaces have alterhumanity spaces

[twin wigeon]

Er her base skins

[tall echo]

I cannot look at protea deluxe and not see it as her basically only being half clothed. Diagonally

[radiant pier]

@devout fractal

[fast dew]

Kinda like the association with neurodivergence and gender queerness, albeit that one does have a genuine relationship with each other

[twin wigeon]

Now show off sevagoth prime

[stiff fable]

Pre-update lore chat is always a riot

[tall echo]

Yeahhh... no I don't see it

[fast dew]

THE DRIFTER PLUSHIE

[devout fractal]

HAHAHA

[sick scarab]

Yeah, pretty much that
They end up sharing similar circles due to the circumstances

[radiant pier]

and for my favorite screenshot from that tangent

to your dms we go

[dark compass]

Mom I'm on tv

[twin wigeon]

Gatekept, againnn

[radiant pier]

dawg if you wanna see the statement just ask

[twin wigeon]

Ye :3

[tall echo]

Wh

[twin wigeon]

Whahahahaha

[devout fractal]

HahahaaAHAHAAA

[radiant pier]

I stand by my statement

[twin wigeon]

Joel is a mood all the time

[sick scarab]

I wanna know what's behind the spoiler, but I also think it's a billion times funnier with the spoiler lmao

[dark compass]

JoelTheFreak

[radiant pier]

guess bro, guess

[dark compass]

Hi region

[devout fractal]

Btw im forcing my friend to finish their Resume , and bribing them with playing warframe. They’ve never pllayed so this is going to be their first experience

[fast dew]

Yeah! I got to explain it at college today and it was fun to explain the connection between gender queerness and. Neurodivergence id go into the alterhuman/therian rabbit hole there but I would get tomatoes thrown at me lol

[tall echo]

I
Wish I was a mod.
I don't want to curse the mods with that but also feel like it needs a summoning

[woven coyote]

Do keep us updated

It is always fun to hear

[radiant pier]

smoke bomb

[devout fractal]

Should i warn them of anything

[fast dew]

Bath bomb...

[strange turtle]

How many other therian holes is there

[twin wigeon]

I need a make this a gif

[strange turtle]

Is there a therian fox hole

[lean garden]

woah there

[fast dew]

Uhhh.

Lemme think of digging animals

[radiant pier]

||it's actually not even an nsfw word but it was too funny not to change out when I realized it looked so bad||

[strange turtle]

what

OH

[fast dew]

Trying to remember if martens dig

[woven coyote]

I mean you have played the game and you know them so uhhhh your call

[devout fractal]

…diybt

[sick scarab]

Thomas I'm going to throw tomatoes at you either way
(/silly)

[devout fractal]

Got ittttt

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/danse-paladin-danse-bos-brotherhood-of-steel-fallout-4-gif-9187062788144460921

[strange turtle]

Ik wombats do

[fast dew]

This is who you're throwing tomatoes at

[radiant pier]

I do have an actual lore question though

[fast dew]

Echidnas kinda do too

[tall echo]

The discomfort I am feeling right now thanks to joel makes me want to delete the entire game and leave the server

[strange turtle]

A synth 🤢

[radiant pier]

was Roathe just.....for the whole thousand years, just in 1899?

[fast dew]

How dare you

[sick scarab]

I swear to god this gif looks like it was ripped straight out of a Win9x game

[fast dew]

Time passed differently

[strange turtle]

He was there for many years

[radiant pier]

but he was genuinely just there for our thousand years?

[strange turtle]

But for him, those thousand years that we had didn’t pass

[twin wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1420749180674113577/1496932954759499846/image0.gif

[fast dew]

Well. The original fallout is from that time iirc, so its not shocking lol

[dark compass]

So what's happening here?

[strange turtle]

Technically, yeah

[twin wigeon]

Yes

[fast dew]

Yesnt

[tall echo]

Mistakes

[fast dew]

Uranium

[radiant pier]

I wonder how many more are just.....hidden away in pockets of time

[stiff fable]

someone's playing Whispers for the first time and didn't know about Hollvania

[celest needle]

Proving Viktors point

[tall echo]

Fever

[celest needle]

👀

[stiff fable]

That combined with how long its been since Follie and the animal spirits have full control of lore chat

[radiant pier]

we witnessed a person very quickly realize how progressive the game is

[woven coyote]

Roathe explains he managed to make a helminth from his blood so they could travel to our present

[fast dew]

[woven coyote]

They being the whole triad

[dark compass]

Hey Thomas

[fast dew]

Ye nuke

[dark compass]

Since when are you blue

[radiant pier]

now we're here, me playing the perita rebellion, and Nero disappearing from time to time glued to the hex

[dark compass]

Or were you always blue

[fast dew]

Ive always been blue here

[dark compass]

You are a different kind of blue now

[radiant pier]

??? nuke are you good???

[fast dew]

Oh what

[tall echo]

Roach tardis'd a random cathedral to the sanctum

[dark compass]

I think it looks different

[celest needle]

-# Just like animals
-# Animals

[fast dew]

No wait

[radiant pier]

MY EYES

[fast dew]

They have a point

[radiant pier]

YOUR GODDAMN BANNER

yeah there's a shine in the middle now

[fast dew]

My entire profile

[twin wigeon]

Neon pink

[radiant pier]

it looks to be....moving around?

[fast dew]

It might

[tall echo]

That's old

[twin wigeon]

It that a mayker?

[radiant pier]

you're kidding

[fast dew]

Samur, the seraphim, my wife

[tall echo]

The platform roles got gradients months ago

[radiant pier]

wait it's always been like this? since when?

MONTHS?!?

[twin wigeon]

Always

[fast dew]

Some folk dont update discord enough to see it lol

[tall echo]

Oh cool 8pm, time for my body to scream at me to sleep

[radiant pier]

I'm an idiot I just clicked thomas' banner again

[woven coyote]

Lol

[radiant pier]

YOU SLEEP AT 8PM??

[fast dew]

Its cute stfu

[tall echo]

No but my body wants me to

[radiant pier]

it is, it's just also blinding at 2 AM

[fast dew]

Hold on gotta change my server one

[radiant pier]

did we scare off Nero

[tall echo]

I'm spending at least 4 more hours in half awake agony

[strange turtle]

Icl I thought it was a Dax thing I hadn’t seen

Or Wally

[radiant pier]

folks, whenever I get that next 75% off, remind me who Nero is maining at that time

[tall echo]

Why do I never get free things

-# bc I'm a prick ik but still

[fast dew]

Nay, just. Doom

[devout fractal]

The only free thing id ever desire is a color thing thats just every variation of yellow.

[pale cedar]

Because I was bored and made that Eternalism timeline not happen

[devout fractal]

I LOVE YELLOW SO MUCH. GOLD. YELLOW. SUN. I LOVE YELLOWWW

[fast dew]

Im. Pretty again :D

[devout fractal]

Also no im making shrimp :DDD

Trust me im watching thiss chat constantly yall are amazing

[devout fractal]

BE NICE.

[fast dew]

I also use discord light mode sometimes

[twin wigeon]

Ahhhhh

https://tenor.com/view/vesuvius-baby-baby-ash-gif-2339947883921805569

[devout fractal]

Foul.

[fast dew]

Its pink and blue tho

[tall echo]

I'm gonna make you not happen

[pale cedar]

I already have

[strange turtle]

I’m gonna make _ _ not happen

[fast dew]

Whuh

Screw you all flashbang

[tall echo]

I'm gonna happen

[devout fractal]

MY EEEYESSSSS

MY EEEEYEEEEESS

[strange turtle]

I happen

[devout fractal]

I happened.

[tall echo]

that is
really not impactful on a pc screen

[radiant pier]

I'M ALREADY RUNNING OUT OF PLAT

[fast dew]

LMAO

[tall echo]

tiny

[fast dew]

ITS SO SMALL

[devout fractal]

Im on my PHONE THIS HURTS

[radiant pier]

I got barely 2k to my name atp I spent like 2k on gifts

[fast dew]

Why is your discord so zoomed out

[stiff fable]

It's a good thing! Getting to find out without spoilers leads to the craziest reactions

[tall echo]

I am perpetually at 0 plat you don't get to complain

[tall echo]

pc fullscreen

[pale cedar]

I didn't look so I remained unaffected

[radiant pier]

that's cuz you're BROKE

[cosmic badge]

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-7280845142657635823

[fast dew]

I have. 2 plat

[devout fractal]

Gehehe you should’ve seen how these guys reacted to me seeing the new war

THEY LAUGEHD AT MY PAIN :(

[tall echo]

no it's because I spend it all on gifts and stupid weapon rename puns

like my T.A.P. Water

[celest needle]

Where is Pazuul hiding out anyway?

[twin wigeon]

Im broke bc im always rushing my stuff

[radiant pier]

so you ain't broke you're just IRRESPONSIBLE

[tall echo]

or despacedo prime

[pale cedar]

Somewhere in the Origin System

[twin wigeon]

T~T I know…

[tall echo]

or dread it. run from it.
dis pear.
AM.

[stiff fable]

congrats on failing the entire system

[tall echo]

I AM GENEROUS

[twin wigeon]

AM?

[tall echo]

to my own detriment

[twin wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/allied-mastercomputer-am-ihnm-ihnmaims-i-have-no-mouth-hate-monologue-gif-2221310702094501623

[tall echo]

hate

I renamed my hate to AM

[devout fractal]

I’ve never had more than like 250 plat i think, i used it all on rushing builds and like a single color pallet

[cosmic badge]

Everything's so tempting its not my fault everything makes me feel like a little kid given a 100 bucks to buy whatever I want

[tall echo]

hold on gonna get a screenshot

[radiant pier]

alrighty I shall go do a quick 4 mission duviri run and then go to bed

[devout fractal]

MY ROBOOOOTSSSS

[pale cedar]

Should ask Scrap where he is hiding

The answer will shock you

[celest needle]

But WHERE?

He was last on an Sentient ship and then just

Is he still on it?

[tall echo]

yes

[twin wigeon]

Perhaps hes still on Praghasa

[radiant pier]

host connection lost okay yeah nevermind screw the duviri

[strange turtle]

the web

[twin wigeon]

After all it’s not like he can go back to tau

[tall echo]

it's called the weave and
surprisingly no

[pale cedar]

Yet

[strange turtle]

an oublitette

[fast dew]

Hell you do to get out of the weave

[celest needle]

Where is she again?

[stiff fable]

I'm hoping the update they're announcing tomorrow is Narmer stuff

[strange turtle]

an obistret

[twin wigeon]

Near the sun at the moment

[strange turtle]

pear..

[tall echo]

too dangerous to keep around

[supple trellis]

I have no mouth and I must scream reference? in this economy?

[tall echo]

I threaten literally everyone with a gun what else do you expect

[tall echo]

yes

[fast dew]

..you.

[twin wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/allied-mastercomputer-am-ihnm-ihnmaims-i-have-no-mouth-hate-monologue-gif-2221310702094501623

I love this image

[tall echo]

my despair rename is actually a reference to a meme that emerged with sephiroth's release in smash ultimate...

[fast dew]

Oh shit she broke out

[stiff fable]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sephiroth-smash-brothers--k01KPXRSWCMVZKJRAHSESS8MZ27

[radiant pier]

why does the new lotus voice line sound really different

the one from the survival thing

[celest needle]

How does he contact the rest narmer from there?

[fast dew]

Rebb is learning how to VA lol

[tall echo]

young rebb vs older rebb

[twin wigeon]

Broadcasts

It’s not hard to

[tall echo]

ok who teleported an omni forma into my inventory

[midnight ice]

points at a sign saying warframe is overdue for an overhaul of the older quests (esp lotus-centric ones) because rebb is getting a lot more comfortable in her role and a revamp would be nice. the age is kind of showing between the cracks

[fast dew]

Agreeing nodding nodding

[midnight ice]

(they will just redo Awakening again next upd)

[stiff fable]

oh that's where it went, I'll be taking it back thanks

[celest needle]

This is a survival mission

[radiant pier]

the filter I mean

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-cat-meme-this-cat-completely-validates-everything-you-say-validate-gif-14203639289910125134

[radiant pier]

I really like it

[celest needle]

He has to have internet on there then

[tall echo]

too late my sporothrix ate it

[stiff fable]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-reaction-michi-triste--k01KPXRG4G5EB047H4S94WQWMF1

[fleet furnace]

honestly i think alot of the older code for warframe needs an overhaul, but that means ripping off the band aids and whatnot and breaking pretty much everything

[stiff fable]

unfortunately it's mostly bandaid at this point

[tall echo]

warframe code is a bandaid floating in the ocean

[radiant pier]

I genuinely really like the new filter the lotus has got

[tall echo]

unpredictable

[tall echo]

the filter hasn't changed...

[radiant pier]

but she sounds super different

[tall echo]

did you equip a different skin

[devout fractal]

Follie. Or jade. THOSE ARE WHO I WORK TOWARDS.

[celest needle]

Remember when multiple mod sets just broke before the old peace

For like a month and a half straight

[devout fractal]

I STILL GRIND FOR JADE.

I WILL GET THAT FRAME.

[midnight ice]

true theres not enough money in the world to pay someone to refactor wf

however they will have the 5 dollars to remake Awakening again

[fast dew]

It'll be so cool..

[twin wigeon]

Pregante

[fast dew]

Mpregante

[devout fractal]

Pregnant frame lady ive been told has great AOE

[twin wigeon]

Pergant

[tall echo]

surprisingly not really

[devout fractal]

Oh?

[tall echo]

well, not as reliably as other frames

like QORVEX THE GOAT

unbiased

[devout fractal]

Listen i love LOVE AOE but also i have to do more damage. So i switched from Oberon to Umbra

BUT I MISS MY AOE

[fast dew]

Jade is a weapons platform

Shes good in her own right, solid enough, easier to mod

[tall echo]

but like yea jade's AOE isn't very long-lived or strong, and her exalted is kinda. meh

[radiant pier]

there's a build where she deletes directions

[fast dew]

Yeah lol

She is. Solid

[devout fractal]

Gehehehe jadeee

[celest needle]

Jade also makes sure you will Never fight the stalker on normal missions

[tall echo]

not that stalker is an actual issue at that point

[normal mountain]

<@&778745217037238293>

[fast dew]

Eugh <@&778745217037238293>

[normal mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/kobayashi-kanna-funny-gif-25691902

[celest needle]

Mucking sentient mimics

[normal mountain]

I don't think even the Sentients would stoop to that

The Infested, however...

[strange turtle]

what happened

[fast dew]

Scambot

[celest needle]

Fellow 🗣️

[fast dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952946035733438575/1461285583681753251/explode-1768467993232.gif

[celest needle]

I think you may like the Entrati

Just a suspicion tho

[fast dew]

Perhaps

[tall echo]

"albrecht shrine"
look inside
loid

[fast dew]

It needs a new name

[ocean geyser]

Doing a think
The people who think Wally was posing as Albrecht during the end segment of the Hex
Prooobably just haven’t beaten the finale, eh?

Even then why would Wally tell you how to save people

Via connections, even

[fast dew]

Mhm

[ocean geyser]

(This is also something the wiki people believe)

[twin wigeon]

Mhm

[fast dew]

Tbf the one that shoots us in the zariman is probably not him lol

[twin wigeon]

Guh???

[celest needle]

Huh??

[zenith ore]

What was it what was it

[fleet furnace]

scam bot

[tall echo]

wait since we get full sword sigils as soon as we join hexis does that mean we are instantly ranked higher than zorba when we're completely new

[celest needle]

Techrot

[twin wigeon]

Yep

[zenith ore]

Dang I thought it was something interesting

[tall echo]

poor dude has to watch as a flesh robot gets given a higher rank than him for just showing up

[twin wigeon]

I mean we’re a mercenary fighting for truth while zorba is just some rookie scholar

[ocean geyser]

To be fair i don’t think any of the Arbiters taught us how to read either
So he has that on us

[twin wigeon]

True, we don’t even know much about the arbiter’s systems and stuff

[celest needle]

Hey we are Tenno and he's a guy

[ocean geyser]

This is why Warframe players can’t read

[pale cedar]

We taught the nonbiter how to read

[tall echo]

ok but that's part of why he can't rank up, he can't read their script

[twin wigeon]

Last guy that knew how to read, went insane

[ocean geyser]

Guys i think the Arbiters might be biased or something

[tall echo]

zorba's english teacher went to get a pack of smokes and got smoked

[ocean geyser]

We kind of just gave him ink and then the ink taught him how to read

[twin wigeon]

Dante

[celest needle]

They're all manga readers?

No way!

[tall echo]

not even that, he's just interpreting it

[ocean geyser]

Can’t believe the two people that can canonically read got put on a shirt

[twin wigeon]

What

[ocean geyser]

Dante got hit with a Conjuring moment by the Murmur and
Kozai got blown up

[ocean geyser]

Do you not know what “put on a shirt” means

[twin wigeon]

Oh I thought you being literal

Actually I make no sense

[ocean geyser]

Oh lmao

[ocean geyser]

Valid response

[twin wigeon]

Being put on a shirt is both figurative and literal

[ocean geyser]

Trueee

[tall echo]

everyone here who's on pc should try pressing h in game

[stiff fable]

"That can't stop me, I can't read!"

[pale cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-sign-cant-stop-me-no-one-can-stop-me-gif-13921932

[normal mountain]

Did that on accident once
Threw off my entire mission

[twin wigeon]

Doesn’t that swap your aiming shoulder or smth

[fast dew]

Uhh can I ask what that does

[twin wigeon]

Or whatever it’s called

[devout fractal]

I’m a console player what do

[twin wigeon]

Im not on

[tall echo]

yes

[twin wigeon]

Is it bad I remember that key bind despite not being online

[tall echo]

no

[devout fractal]

THE FISH WITH THE BIG BRAIN???

[fast dew]

YES THE FISH WITH THE BIG BRAIN

[devout fractal]

ITS SO UGLY

[fast dew]

Yeah thats a norg lol

[radiant pier]

true but also adorable in a way

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/norg-warframe-trading-warframe-trading-fish-gif-15293485056260068488

[twin wigeon]

whats nero up to now

[tall echo]

fighting vergil

[devout fractal]

I

I DIED. IVE NEVER DIED IN A MISSION BEFORE

OH MY GOD THATS INFURIATING

[twin wigeon]

lemme guess, fragmented boss?

[devout fractal]

I DONT DO ENOUGH DAMAGE TO THAT THING DAMNIT

YES. Yes THAT THING

[twin wigeon]

ttry shooting its glowy orbs

[devout fractal]

I HAD IT AT ITS LAST BIT AND IT GOT ME MY HEALTH IS HORIRBLE

MY HEALTH IS 600 with 500 shield :(

[twin wigeon]

im not sure actually if you're meant to defeat it

[devout fractal]

:(

[twin wigeon]

i think you're supposed to just dodge its attacks

i could be wrong

[devout fractal]

O h -

Yea no I wasn’t even shooting at it I was just running at it slashing

[zenith ore]

Space ninja

[twin wigeon]

yeah it has lots of close ranged attacks

not to mention lots of slash attacks

[devout fractal]

Y e a a a . Ah the suffering of a melee Tenno

[zenith ore]

Oh my god I don't want to remember my suffering when I changed to using primary weapons. Didn't happen until I did new war

[twin wigeon]

unrelatable

[devout fractal]

I refuse to aim.

[zenith ore]

That's my problem still

[twin wigeon]

i use shotguns

and delete directions

[devout fractal]

Ahhhh AHHH HE CALLS HIM HIS LOID

OH THIS IS YAOIFUL DEAR GOD

[zenith ore]

Bhah!

Loid is zesty AF

[fast dew]

"My loid.." im exploding

Wait until you see the end of the fight

[twin wigeon]

wait until you see what loid is called in the hex

[fast dew]

Im itching to be abnormal over the song that plays during it

[fast dew]

HEHEHE ||"Mannn cat."||

[pale cedar]

Not even a gif

[devout fractal]

I GOT IT I GOT IT

I KILLD IT YAYYYYY

IM NOT FIGHTING THAT HUGE THING LET ME GO

YO LOID KISS THAT HUGE THING OR SMTH PLEASE I DONT WANNA GIGHT THAT

WAIT NOT MY DRIFTER NO

GIMME BACK INWORKED HARD ON THEIR FACE

[fast dew]

[devout fractal]

OH ???? TITANTSNFIGHTINGGGG

[twin wigeon]

shhhh

[fast dew]

:3

[twin wigeon]

ty thomas :3

[devout fractal]

oh they are… caressing eachother

[fast dew]

Fun fact about the song that'll be playing once you read this, it has a translation.

[devout fractal]

THATS SO CUTE

WHAT IS IT :(

[fast dew]

It was Albrecht's last moment with Loid, at the start of the quest :)

[devout fractal]

AWEE THATS SO SWEET :( IM GONNA KILL SOMEONE

[fast dew]

Behold my heart, fill my heart fiercely.

Eternal union, eternal union, I am your counterpart.

Behold my heart

Fill my heart fiercely

ITS SO SAD

[twin wigeon]

now go fight that big monster

[fast dew]

The song is Yara Jeliira

[twin wigeon]

Yes, it has a somachord too

[devout fractal]

IM GONNA DIE :( THIS IS SO SWEEEEET

[fast dew]

Also. There's two voices in the song at the start

There's only one in the other half :(

[devout fractal]

AHHHHHHHHHH THIS IS MAKING ME CRY IM TOO SICK FOR THIS

[twin wigeon]

awh

[devout fractal]

HEY THOMAS?

[fast dew]

Hm?

[devout fractal]

GO AHEAD AND DIE FOR ME RIGHT NOW

[fast dew]

Ight

[devout fractal]

ENOUGH OF YOUR WOOOORDS ALL THEY DO IS HURT ME

[fast dew]

;3

[twin wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/snom-pokemon-knife-threat-stab-gif-15740428

omw to kill thomas

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/snom-spin-snom-i-love-snom-yippie-snom-gif-13687695082445225081

[devout fractal]

WAIT WHAT WAS THAT ENDING

[fast dew]

Dw, thats not Albrecht

[devout fractal]

ALWAYS SOMETHING ALLLLWAYS SOMETHINGGG

[fast dew]

We end as we began :)

[devout fractal]

CANT WE JUST BE CHILL FOR A MOMENT ???

DAMN

[fast dew]

But uh. Yeah Albrecht is a. Character

He. Put himself into the void once

The first person inside it

And. He nearly died

And while he was. Healing, Loid would. Recite poetry to him

He and Loid also got high as shit together lol

[devout fractal]

THEY ARE SO REAL

AGHHHHH

[fast dew]

Loid also mildly greened out lol

So. @devout fractal now that you're finished, go up to the. Necraloid room and go to the panels

The ones with. The big ass images

My purpose is fulfilled, to sleep i go

[devout fractal]

Pff okay

[zenith ore]

Sleep? You? Pfft

[devout fractal]

Necraloid room…

[zenith ore]

Was this really necessary 💔

[proper barn]

@devout fractal you should rank up the cavia.

The rank ups for it are so sad.

[devout fractal]

O h :(

[proper barn]

There's also EXTRA LORE if you find the books

In the labs.

I'll tell you 1 bit if book collection lore. @devout fractal when Albretch fell out of the bell he lost fingers sight the ability to speak even. Loid nurses him back to health and like makes 3D printed organs and stuff and makes it where he can talk again and such.

[devout fractal]

AWEEE :(

ALL THIS GAME DOES IS HURT ME

[twin wigeon]

did ya find it?, ill fill in for thomas as he's gone

[devout fractal]

YES I DID :(

[proper barn]

It's just up the stairs.

[twin wigeon]

anyhow, you ought to do some new missions, yk explore a lil

be sure to keep your sound effects slider up btw

you might hear some screaming

[devout fractal]

YEA I NOTICED THAT

WHY? WHY IS THAG GOING ON

[twin wigeon]

Voca, are the cavia's syndicate medals, and are aptly Vocal

[proper barn]

Did you watch all the like

Albretch logs

[devout fractal]

U h

Notttt yet I’m waiting for my food to finish ngl

[twin wigeon]

lol

[devout fractal]

But I’ll get to it

DONT FORGET IM ONLY LIKE 80 MOTES IN AND I HAVE SO MANY MORE UNTIL I GET ALL OF JADE’s COMPONENTS

I HAVE WORKKK TO DOOOO

[celest needle]

You almost gave me a heart attack

[twin wigeon]

"For we're all One
And the work's begun
For Narmer"

[devout fractal]

DONT YOU START MANGO.

[celest needle]

Here today we sing our story
With Ballas we have found our home
Virtue once was work together
But virtue now is lift alone

[twin wigeon]

"Here today we sing our story
With Ballas we have found our home
Virtue once was work together
But virtue now is lift alone"

[celest needle]

I did It first

[twin wigeon]

nyuh uh

[celest needle]

https://imgur.com/1LC7phd

[devout fractal]

ILL OILL YOU ALL

[twin wigeon]

😛

[calm heart]

Does anyone have anything against the theory that the Techrot from 1999 spreads through the internet like an actual Virus, because I have two cases where that was proven.

[twin wigeon]

yes

[celest needle]

Ever seen the 1999 ARG?

[twin wigeon]

Speakers can infect machines if they were harvested from a dead techrot enemy

hence why Amir is hesitant to fixing some of the arcade machines

[celest needle]

Genuinely one of the most immersive things they've done

[calm heart]

First one was at the Tank boss 2nd phase, where Arthur can say "What sides have you been visiting" or something similar, and the second one is at the extraction point, in a room, where an PC is clearly spreading the Techrot without anything next to the techrot.

[twin wigeon]

why is this here

[calm heart]

No, sorry.

[crude crane]

I dont know

[twin wigeon]

wdym

[crude crane]

👍

Watch the video

[twin wigeon]

mmmm i might call a moderator

[celest needle]

There's this awesome video recapping it
https://youtu.be/27twfTwNBLA

give it a watch if you want, You can still even access the ARG website today although all of its secrets have already been found

[crude crane]

nooooooo

[celest needle]

It's in every channel btw

[twin wigeon]

oh then for sure

[celest needle]

Well not every every but like

Several

-# Still counts imo

[twin wigeon]

<@&778745217037238293> this vid is in several channels, is this allowed?

[shell tulip]

[twin wigeon]

hi alyxis

[crude crane]

😭

[twin wigeon]

ty alyxis

[twin wigeon]

sorry saile but its sorta against rule 4 of the server

[bronze field]

It's only in this channel?

[crude crane]

Ok im not doing it again

[twin wigeon]

it was in build discussions and spoiler too

[bronze field]

Oh, I see.

I didn't see Alyxis's message first.

[twin wigeon]

sorry for the bother, Mac. Enjoy your day.

[celest needle]

We have rules here?

[bronze field]

The ones that you're forced to agree to when you join the server?

[stiff fable]

some of us predate that

[twin wigeon]

first time i've actually "talked" to any of the moderators

[celest needle]

How do I tell him

[stiff fable]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bagel-jpeterbane--k01KPY0ZV28VZPWT1MAMVGNMG0C

[devout fractal]

I love getting 12 motes for dealing with FOUR IDIOTS WHO DONT PUT THE DAMN CAPSULES IN THE THING FOR THE JADE FARM MISSION OH MY GOD

[devout fractal]

A MODERATOR???

[woven coyote]

Welcome to pubs

They will never be competent

And in case they are, pinch yourself you are just dreaming

Competent pubs are not real

[devout fractal]

UGHHHH

[twin wigeon]

I always solo

Usually with Octavia or smth

[devout fractal]

Huhhhh

Whatsss uhhhh what’s Lotus Eaters :D?

[pale cedar]

Play it and find out

[twin wigeon]

The longest quest to date

-# shhhhhhh

[restive river]

I got a competent one when trying the guilty lol

[twin wigeon]

Well thats bc it’s guilty

[devout fractal]

Oh dear god

[twin wigeon]

:3333

You should absolutely play it rn trust me

It’s holy peak

[devout fractal]

WELL HOLD ON THERE PALLY

WHAT WILL YOUUUUUUU GIVE MEEEEEE TO LLAY THIS RN

[twin wigeon]

Access to content pally oh pal

:)))

Trust. Me.

I never lie.

[devout fractal]

Pally oh pal pal you strike an immense bargain there but I’m currently bussing down crazy style on. A plate of just shrimp

Just. Shrimp.

Genuinely just shrimp.

[twin wigeon]

At least it isn’t unjust shrimp

[devout fractal]

I like shrimp.

[twin wigeon]

Side note: that looks scrumptious

[stiff fable]

Did a shrimp fry those shrimp

[devout fractal]

I am sadly not a shrimp

[devout fractal]

Thank youuu I’m thinking of making
More it was DELICIOUS

I LOVE SHRIMP

[stiff fable]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bucket-of-shrimp--k01KPY3PNC3N8WXFTKVZK4QPD4G

[twin wigeon]

Im currently starving on campus bc I don’t wanna spend money rn, gotta save for my post finals celebration

[stiff fable]

(this is relevant because my friend named his Helminth and pets after Seinfeld characters)

[twin wigeon]

lol?

[stiff fable]

honestly it's a good way to short circuit choice paralysis

[celest needle]

Nightmare descendia rotation?

[twin wigeon]

Huh

[stiff fable]

what, really?

[celest needle]

Nightmare blunt Descendia rotation?

[twin wigeon]

Huh

[main geyser]

so since kaya escaped 1999 doesn't that make cheating with marrie actual cheating? Pablo said it's not cheating if it is space travel but kaya can rat us out

[devout fractal]

So remember how I said I have used propaganda to get my friends into this game

They said it’s their new obsession.

Officially brought in a new Baby Tenno guys , feeling good

Now to watch them suffer new war soon

[twin wigeon]

have you did lotus eaters yet nero?

[radiant pier]

the new war is rlly fun tho

[stiff beacon]

assuming she can get off the relay

[radiant pier]

I sincerely doubt she won't be able to leave the relay

[devout fractal]

I AM TERRIFIED.

[radiant pier]

Nero

[devout fractal]

WAS IT YOU OR SOMEONE WHO SAID ITS INSANELY LONG

[radiant pier]

do Lotus Eaters it's literally

[devout fractal]

I’m scared of the commitment

[radiant pier]

ohmygod that's diabolical

[devout fractal]

IM SCARED OF COMITMENT

[radiant pier]

lmfao no, Nero just do the quest

DO THE QUEST

[devout fractal]

well not right now it’s like 9 I have class in the morning

BUT ILL GET AROUND TO IT

[radiant pier]

TRUST ME, YOU'LL REALIZE YOU NEED TO STAB WHOEVER TOLD YOU IT'S AN INSANELY LONG QUEST

[devout fractal]

eventually. Honestly I’m sick I might just stay my ass home tommorow

[radiant pier]

do the quest when you get home

I mean do it first thing I swear to you it ain't long

[devout fractal]

JOEL.

IF IT LASTS MORE THAN TWO HOURS

ILL FIND YOU. ISTG I WILL

[loud oriole]

tbh Lotus Eaters is long enough that you can finish it within one average play session

and my average is a couple hours

[devout fractal]

Yea my average session is like.. 5-7 hours

Usually me desperately grinding for Jade just to look at my notes and seeing only 110.

[celest needle]

I did it within 15 minutes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034276993950302331/1494332490691641374/Screenshot2026-04-16064207-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

[radiant pier]

diabolical ass replies y'all makin' Nero nervous fr

wait so it was 9 am for you

but you were messaging at like 3 am

and you ate shrimp

[loud oriole]

wdym its a long quest

[radiant pier]

dawg.

did you even sleep

[twin wigeon]

I said it was a severely long quest 😈

[radiant pier]

Kaya's ability 4 affects the whole map, right? or do I need to build for range

[twin wigeon]

Nova? It’s more duration dependent iirc

Only the explosions are affected by range

[radiant pier]

awesome thanks

I desperately need to give her casting speed

[twin wigeon]

Indeed

[radiant pier]

WHY AM I GETTING SO LUCKY WITH FISSURES LMAO

this is my third resurgence relic in a row I keep getting gold first try

[twin wigeon]

Cannot wait to see Nero tmrw and then she sees how long lotus eaters is

[radiant pier]

I for one cannot wait for her to kick your ass

[fast dew]

Morning chat

Ah

I see Nero did listen to his logs

[fast dew]

This is so funny to read without context lol

[twin wigeon]

Very Vocal Voca

[rare scarab]

do we know how long have sentients been at tau for?

[restive river]

A long time

We don’t ever really get exact years or how long one thing has been from another :p

[rare scarab]

make me wonder if we will be a getting a whole nother solar system

[restive river]

I mean
That’s what Tau is

[rare scarab]

well gameplay i meant

[restive river]

We may get one planet at a time as the Tau arc sounds like it will be LONG

[rare scarab]

forget do sentients use any void tech?

[restive river]

Nope

[rare scarab]

ya it wouldn’t really make sense, so i imagine it would make sense we would see a dyson swarm and crazy tech over there

[restive river]

So the Sentients left before the Zariman was even a thing and finished the rail sometime after the incident iirc
They took the long way
Then the Old War happens
The Old War went on for an unknown amount of time, at some point fragments found the Xenoflora and suddenly there were a lot of sentients who wanted peace, hence the Old Peace
And after that Margulis is Jade Lighted, the Tenno are in the Second Dream, Natah becomes our mom and Hunhow destroys the rail
Then we wiped out the Orokin and napped for a thousand years ago

So bare minimum I’d say the Sentients have been in Tau for 1000+ years just with our big nap

[restive river]

I kinda hope we see them cannibalizing a planet for resources

I’m more curious to see how they’ve evolved, Roathe mentioned something about them evolving to become more human and after the war I wonder if they stayed on that path or what

Imagine we get there and oopsies
The Lord of Tau evolved into the New Orokin :p

Iirc in the Old Peace the idea of Sentients wanting to be more human comes up too, Itzam apparently wanted Sentients and Humans to merge and with our Operator and Drifter being revealed as amalgams what happens next will be very interesting

[rare scarab]

that would be cool

idk if they will do a team up to beat the true big bad guy thing

[restive river]

Oh lemme see if I can get the Adis concept art for you! It’s really cool and could give some insight!

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/1N5n9X

It gets weird as you go down lol

[rare scarab]

i see they got a protoframe looking sentients w/ white hair thats cool

they gonna have a full gurren lagan transformation with all the faction to beat wally in the end we control

[restive river]

Doesn’t gurren lagan have a song about love or something too

[rare scarab]

prolly

[restive river]

Aw man drillframe would rule…

Instant tennogen with the triangle glasses

[rare scarab]

wonder how important they will make tau strike also

both in game and lore

[restive river]

Well it’s another instance of us working together and sorta melding with the Sentients so

[rare scarab]

why do they have wisp proto sell it also, is that just convenience?

[restive river]

Aw man we started this game as freaky human cyborg and we’re going into the next arc with the realization that what we believed to just be a human is now also a freaky human cyborg-

[restive river]

So we get them from the void, specifically Lyon gets it for us so I think the thought process was that cause he’s being a weirdo and not talking to us she talks to us so he will help us…?
tbh the triad were kinda rushed and feel forcefully conjoined to the Old Peace, I think they just needed a vendor

[rare scarab]

ya only thing that fits

[restive river]

I would rather Lyon just be the vendor tbh

Even if his chats were arbitrarily locked for a time I’d prefer that
Makes more sense to just go to him directly and they feel a tad more earned beyond play mission

[rare scarab]

thats why thy should have made 1999 archimedea into a dnd sesh with volt and Nyx proto, and have Nova Proto sell tau cuss she is smart and can time travel

[restive river]

So the tauron strikes are just like
In the void somewhere
So Kaya maybe could have worked for that too

[rare scarab]

i mean the time travel itself def would need void i think

[restive river]

Yup, she uses the void to get to our present

I think Lyon works as the person since it seems he has some knowledge as to their whereabouts
It just would have been better if it was him directly
And if the Triad weren’t grafted into the Old Peace

[stiff fable]

Even that could have worked if they'd been not dateable

[celest needle]

What happened to efferon in the future?

seems to work amazing against the techrot which doesn't seem to have that many differences compared to the base strain

[stiff fable]

I imagine the techrot just adapted to it

[blissful merlin]

They turned that green gas into green grass…I’ll see myself out…

https://tenor.com/view/george-costanza-seinfeld-leave-reaction-gif-5922485

[fast dew]

Why is she vagueposting

[restive river]

Oh
New song!

[fast dew]

Yeah thats what I think!!

[sleek berry]

Regarding deformed Ballas, Erra, and the Narmer:

When talking about his success of controlling people's minds with Narmer technology, Ballas snaps at Erra with a "But not Them."

Do we know if Ballas was using a singular Them or a plural Them?

[stiff fable]

Oh that's a very interesting question

[sleek berry]

I ask, because of the narrative acknowledges a plural Them, then that makes all player characters (or all Operators/Tenno) canon to the plot. But if it's a singular Them, then our experiences in the Codex missions could be seen (from all players) as different timelines in the continuity of Eternalism

[restive river]

Honestly, could be both

[restive river]

No eternalism here

[sleek berry]

Both is interesting

[stiff fable]

In context the question is both about the plural them (the Tenno in their entirety) and the player Tenno

[strange plinth]

i'd always considered it as either referring to the operator/drifter, or op/drift and lotus
as both are getting in his way at that moment

[restive river]

“Even hell was not hot enough to split them”
After saying Tenno

Don’t think he’s talking about the Lotus but the Drifter who he believes to be the Operator

That being said the Drifter is technically a Tenno

[stiff fable]

imo though the Tenno should have jumped Narmer the second the the Lotus started her attack on the fleet

We should have gotten a comms message that Narmer was being attacked absolutely everywhere in that moment

[restive river]

They shoulda jumped them the moment the war was on, we were the only railjack out there lol

[stiff fable]

That too

[restive river]

A big question with the new war is where did the other Tenno go

[stiff fable]

Put other railjacks in the skybox

imo they just went to ground rather than risk Narmer veiling Tenno and Warfrmaes

[restive river]

I’d even take tiny low poly ones in the distance

[stiff fable]

Yeah exactly

[restive river]

Yeah probably, Teshin disappeared, Ordis and Cy didn’t hear from us and Ordis was functionally acting as the Lotus

[sleek berry]

New War would be a quest I'd like to see a minor rework to somehow add the option for multiplayer

[restive river]

Honestly if Ordis kept up the holo Lotus routine while the Tenno went underground to regroup that woulda been cool

[restive river]

They don’t do that for cinematic quests nor does that work with the Drifter

There only one Drifter
Your Drifter
Who’s also my Drifter
In the same way that we were all the ones to do the deal, to do the other cinematic quests, to be the Chosen Operator

This isn’t eternalism, there is no in-universe explanation for what is just us being the main character

[sleek berry]

I understand, it was more of a "I feel alone fighting step dad, where's my bros and sistas at?" Kind of deal

[restive river]

Yeah it woulda been nice to see some Tenno rebellion or something at least

Literally anything, even something from Ordis like
He told them to hide or something

[stiff fable]

Yeah I agree, just add railjacks in part 1 and voice comms in part 3

[devout fractal]

I’m sick as balls right now but I’m awake to say. Never judge a woman for her shrimp times.

[strange plinth]

there are the two or three named tenno from the zariman segment that could work for that as well

[restive river]

Wait that’d actually be really cool-

[sleek berry]

Maybe something like in The Old Peace, just have the named Zariman Tenno cycle through different player tags (names) for each playthrough...

[radiant pier]

but I WILL

[devout fractal]

WHAT TIME IS IT FOR TOU

[restive river]

I mean I would have loved literally anything about other students during that 😔

[radiant pier]

SAME TIME AS YOU FOOL

[devout fractal]

Ooo sick BUT DAMN ITS 1 GO TO BED GNG

[radiant pier]

wait what

wait it's not 1pm for you

oh god you're American

[fast dew]

Chat

[strange plinth]

i have to wonder why those tenno are named given that they're around for that scene and never again
obv it helps empathize with them but they're still not brought back

[fast dew]

My mate. Im with rn, they finally touched warframe again and

I am so confused on their progress

They have. Ash prime

A moa

[radiant pier]

A MOA?

veteran status

I ain't ever bothered with those

[fast dew]

But they.

Can't do basic starchart

They also have. 1500+ plat

[strange plinth]

a moa but no starchart

[devout fractal]

OH SORRY I CANT CONTROL WHERE I AM

I DONT WANNA BE HERE :( GO TO BED

[radiant pier]

THOMAS

[fast dew]

Whuh

[radiant pier]

EXECUTE THEM

[strange plinth]

is it just a modding issue or what lmao

[devout fractal]

I WILL HAVE YOU DEAD >:(

[dark compass]

Huh

[dark compass]

Sounds like whaling symptoms

Lots of money first options

[fast dew]

Idk?? They're super competent too 😭

THEY HAVE A LATO VANDAL

????

What is this progresss

[dark compass]

Weird

[fast dew]

THEY HAVE A CLOSED BETA ACCOLADE????

[restive river]

LMAO

[stiff fable]

Among other things yeah

[restive river]

Ah yes, the silly founder

[stiff fable]

Us Switch players crying in the corner

[fast dew]

What the shit man

Theyre
Pc
Exclusively pc

What the hell 😭

[restive river]

How is it on the switch these days

[restive river]

Good thing we have crossplay!

You can help them through the game :D

[strange plinth]

ok do they have ash prime access stuff
i'm forming a theory

[restive river]

[stiff fable]

Overall the game is in a good place

I'm mostly fake malding that Switch missed out on every limited time event before Scarlet Spear

[restive river]

That’s good :D

Last time I played on switch was either whispers or dante

[restive river]

They need to rerun those, idc if almost all the rewards came back

[stiff fable]

I'd go so far to say the S2 version is actually in an excellent state

[restive river]

I saw the improvements!

[stiff fable]

I know we've said it before but DE should sit down with Sumo Digital and figure out a roadmap to turn all the limited time events into normal quests

Toobmen, False Profit, etc etc etc

[restive river]

They should also give Sumo at least some of the lore bible

[stiff fable]

I think they have it tbh

[restive river]

Calling Teshin a dax that early does not work

“Mara” in the opening cutscene doesn’t make much sense unless it’s metaphorical

[fast dew]

They. Did buy ash yeah

[stiff fable]

That part is okay, they just need to slip in a reference before TWW that the Dax are Orokin slave soldiers

[restive river]

I believe they did Nokko and honestly
Idk what he even is?
Is he a facsimile of a frame?
Is he all mushroom or half and half?
What are the mushrooms? Are they infested?

[stiff fable]

So that the Operator is finding out during TWW

[strange plinth]

that would explain the plat + lato vandal as well, then, i think
probably the moa as well? unsure about that one
the starchart issue remains. odd.

[restive river]

I disagree BECAUSE in the quest our Operator specifically reacts to the fact he’s a Dax like it’s shocking

[stiff fable]

He's a frame who became part of a mushroom colony that started producing miniature versions of the frame

[restive river]

Wasn’t he a child that fell into the mines?

[stiff fable]

That's what I mean, the player can know already and it's fine, but the character finding out should still be a big deal

[stiff fable]

Not as far as I know

[restive river]

But they find out in the teacher, no?
Lotus calls him a dax

[stiff fable]

Lotus knows way way ahead of time, Operator does not

[restive river]

From what I recall of his story that was one of the things that happened
It’s why I’ve been confused about Nokko

[strange plinth]

described as a child-sized figure but intentionally vague i think?
where's that dialogue-

[restive river]

No I know, I’m saying she mentions it to us/when we’re around iirc

[dark compass]

They call him Teshin Dax like it's his surname

[restive river]

If he’s a child-sized Frame then is Nokko just Revenant but Mushrooms?

[stiff fable]

I've been vicariously living through Endy's playthrough, she doesn't mention it to the Operator ever

[dark compass]

I know a baby Tenno who thought that it's his surname

Teshin "Play Conclave" Dax

[restive river]

When does she mention it :?

[stiff fable]

I think it's likely Nokko was a mushroom frame originally, but bound himself to the Undermind and became UBERSHROOMFRAME

[stiff fable]

TWW

[restive river]

No, in the teacher lol

When does she call him a dax in the teacher

[stiff fable]

Oh, she calls him that after you capture him

[dark compass]

Right when you meet him

[restive river]

So we would know, no?

[stiff fable]

You're not there, it's a private dialogue between them that the player is allowed to hear

[dark compass]

"it's him. Teshin Dax"

It's how he is introduced

[strange plinth]

-# Nightcap: "Don't listen to that trash, mate. Corporate just wants a little fungal remediation, is'all. Get in. Get out. Get paid. Easy credits."
-# Nightcap: "Right? Something messing with our gear? Sure you ain't been snacking on these mushrooms, mate?"
-# Nightcap: "Job sure would be easier if these mushrooms weren't so mucking pretty to look at."
-# Nightcap: "Watch the spores! Get back to the airlock you MUCKERS! Run! What the hell is that??"
-# Nightcap: "Hey. For Sol's sake who let a mucking kid down here? Hey! Get back here. Stop mucking about with our gear."

-# Nightcap: "You little mucker. You dumped me muckin' accelerant. Huh, smart little mucker."
-# Nightcap: "No corporate. No co. Nokko. I'm gonna call you Nokko."
-# Nightcap: "All this fungi... I swear it's filtering the waste from the towers. You take the fungi away and Venus goes all fire and brimstone."
-# Nef Anyo: "It has come to my attention that some Solaris are refusing work orders in the deepmines. Such insubordination will be dealt with swiftly."
-# Nightcap: "No. Mr. Anyo, sir! I will not comply. I'm shutting down the elevator. Nothing more goes up and nothing more comes down."

-# Nightcap: "Well look at you, Nokko. You ain't some leftover freak that some Orokin mucker made in a lab. Don't know how or why, but somewhere along the line you became the roots and fruits."
cutting off the rest as its just nightcap's totally-not-death and "(Sad Nokko nosies)"
apologies for how large this message prolly is

[fast dew]

Nodders, it was just. So weird lol

[dark compass]

First time we hear Teshin introduced it's with Dax as a surname

[stiff fable]

Ah, no you're right

[dark compass]

Like Steve Minecraft, but Teshin Dax

[restive river]

Ok so
Uh
No we should know he’s a Dax
The Corpus Treasurer calls him one and we hear that

[stiff fable]

Teshin: "I need to see for myself. Have the Tenno risen or is this another Lotus trick?"

Lotus: "Teshin Dax."```

[restive river]

I was looking for the Lotus part and the treasurer just calls him one straight up-

Not Teshin Dax
Not even just Dax
“the Dax”

So we know he’s a Dax
So it shouldn’t be shocking when we later find out he’s a Dax

If it’s reworked so we instead recall what a Dax even is, yes maybe that would work with what they have now
But as is idk

[dark compass]

Teshin Snacks...

I'm so hungry

[restive river]

Teshin’s snacks
Konzu’s lunch
What’s for dinner?? Hunhow crab meat?

[stiff fable]

Square spaghetti

[zenith ore]

Nokko shrooms

[dark compass]

Square spaghetti with a side of techrot barbecue

[rigid compass]

Why did they even add teacher 😭
Theres no way they added it just to introduce teshin

[rigid compass]

Paul's secret recipe

[narrow pendant]

give new players a better idea about how modding works

[stiff fable]

that's exactly it

[restive river]

To teach modding

[stiff fable]

Teshin's intro was originally part of the PvP onboarding

[restive river]

More so to introduce modding, it doesn’t really do much in teaching them how it works :p

[strange plinth]

he randomly showed up during Natah acting like you knew who he was before so

[rigid compass]

Did he ever show up in operations or was he always just the conclave guy till war within

[stiff fable]

which didn't have a tutorial, just the normal "first time talking to a syndicate rep"

the latter

[restive river]

Put in thing
Thing does status
Add other thing
New status!
That’s it
Here’s a gun lol

[rigid compass]

Does he i dont remember lol

[narrow pendant]

well, alchemizing even if poorly so

undercroft alchemy does it better 😭

[restive river]

I mean that part’s fine, it just doesn’t really teach much else lol

[rigid compass]

Im crine

[stiff fable]

we need a mandatory alchemy node on Mars or something

[restive river]

That ain’t at the start though

[dark compass]

You can mod warframe too
Gives unranked vitality

[strange plinth]

Teshin: "So, pupil, the spring has ended. The Lotus blossom has snapped shut, her true nature revealed. Now we shall see if codependence can be broken. Let us begin to unravel her long-hidden truth."
his first line in natah, and the first line players were hearing from him if they never talked to him for conclave stuff

[rigid compass]

Wasn't modding taught by lotus in vors prize anyways

[restive river]

I’d rather new tenno learn it sooner than get to Duviri and then maybe learn it along the way

[rigid compass]

Before teacher ig

[strange plinth]

not taught, but she directed you to a mod segment and then moved to the next thing iirc

[rigid compass]

Or just read the in game tutorials

[restive river]

I mean yeah
It doesn’t do that much though, it’s just introductory

[strange plinth]

warframe players don't read

[stiff fable]

not directly, you had a solar rail requirement to mod your Warframe

[dark compass]

The teacher does 3 things

1. tries to teach you how to mod
2. introduces Teshin early
3. cuts Cetus out of the normal progression path, immediately directing you to Fortuna

[restive river]

Gamers don’t read in general lol

[stiff fable]

but that was it

[rigid compass]

Going to Venus is still part of vors prize

[stiff fable]

real talk, Cetus unlocking ONLY after Mars Junction is absolutely wild

[rigid compass]

They changed that?

[stiff fable]

yeah

[rigid compass]

Wild

[restive river]

Or doesn’t try to teach you, it acts as an intro to it
It shows how important it is and that’s kinda it
Which isn’t a bad thing

[stiff fable]

you have to do it for Deimos Junction now I think

[restive river]

Directing players to Fortuna sooner is a choice

[stiff fable]

they're trying to trick you into thinking Warframe has real characters before Natah

[rigid compass]

Why did they remake the star chart the old one was so much better

[stiff fable]

genuinely to push people through New War asap

[fast dew]

My. Mate had deimos open actually

[strange plinth]

cetus is still available whenever you can get to it via nodes, you're just not directed to go there before chains afaik

[rigid compass]

Its a 13 year old game new players really shouldn't even get to new war till like 100 hours in or more

[fast dew]

Barely deimos, Mars, mastered mercury, half of Phobos and. Ceres

[rigid compass]

Maybe 150

[restive river]

It was smart to cut the star chart in half, one of Warframe’s biggest barriers to entry is how giant it is in terms of content
It’s not like the content was even removed, it’s just to the side, when they’re ready

[fast dew]

Huh?? I got it. Way earlier what

[stiff fable]

I absolutely agree