lore-discussion

[pale cedar]

Grineer aren’t born they’re made

[clever linden]

Sounds like something a space marine would use to refer to the tau empire

[strange turtle]

They’re only like this now after generations of subsequent cloning degrading the genetics

[spare brook]

To be far, being cloned is still being born in a way. Since they would consider the scientist they made them their parent.

[cunning ore]

How designable can be inflated like a balloon? It feel such a disgrace for a word that contained so much worths.

Like i, speechless and clearly have to relearn of what the mean of standard in beauty of body and mind

[spare brook]

Yes, but the thing I said is a very rare chance for one to come out from the vat normal looking with no imperfections or defects amid the other Grineer that have genetic flaws and defects in them.

[fast dew]

To you, maybe it's not. But to a lot of other cultures, it was seen as beautiful

[stiff fable]

Prime Grineer

This is what they originally looked like

[clever linden]

I want prime grineer armor for khal

[fast dew]

Would bite him 10/10

[cunning ore]

Oh, yea. That remind me of the old time, when that beauty standed for the fullness and wealthy.

[cunning ore]

So we are clearly some under-Grineer or Grinner beauty standard.

But that does look good

[spare brook]

If only the Orokin found out a way to turn back into a baby when they turn old like some animals of Earth, instead of mind transfering bodies. That would've saved them a lot of trouble.

[stiff fable]

Oh no, they had the tech to do that just about

[fast dew]

Exactly, its probably a nod to that

[stiff fable]

They enjoyed stealing bodies

[cunning ore]

Then you forgot they fear of being vulnerable so no

[pale cedar]

The Grineer almost solved the rot problem and we killed them for it

[cunning ore]

That why teenager like Yareli more oftenly chosed

[fast dew]

Tbh I think grineer should have rights

[stiff fable]

Also true. A lot of early Warframe events were about keeping the Grineer from fixing their DNA problems.

[stiff fable]

paradox of tolerance shame the queens disagree

[spare brook]

Well they suck even more then.

[cunning ore]

I honestly think Grineer of that Orokin Time seem handsomes through that. And yea agree.

[clever linden]

Grineer beauty standard has become severely warped over time

Vet Hek sees himself as beautiful

[stiff fable]

Remember this rule: every time you think you've seen how terrible the Orokin are?

They get worse.

[cunning ore]

You know who Vay-Hek maybe alike?

[spare brook]

I'm pretty sure they did inbreeding like blue bloods.

[fast dew]

Some folk would've slimed me out for saying it cuz it makes them uncomfortable that they're killing humans with lives :)

[clever linden]

Nitokh is about to demonstrate that

[clever linden]

What?

[fast dew]

God I hate Nitokh

[clever linden]

Ballas but girl

Truly, a worse villian

[fast dew]

I don't know why everyone is all over her. Yeah she's pretty sure but that's like. Ignoring that she is a massive abuser

[stiff fable]

don't you love it when people genuinely don't have the brainpower to process the entire point of a story

[cunning ore]

Godrick from Elden Ring

[clever linden]

Idk who that is

[fast dew]

I come from the Doom fandom, folk regularly deny the story even exists

[cunning ore]

Okay, then not thrn.

[clever linden]

I don’t believe Vay Hek is capable of loving anyone but himself

[fast dew]

Nemesis saw my crashout about this once

[stiff fable]

tbf Doom peaked with Doom 2

[fast dew]

Or. Read it. It was eventful

[fast dew]

Doom 3 and we have a deal

[cunning ore]

He got only his head and a wig..so umm

[stiff fable]

Mmmm no can't agree

Unless you mean Doom 64

[cunning ore]

What other good points?

[stiff fable]

shockingly good game

[clever linden]

I meant like, narcissism

He’s basically warframe’s Taniks

[fast dew]

Doom 3 but only played on original hardware

[cunning ore]

Yea-

[fast dew]

Doom 64 is great tho

[strange turtle]

There is, 0 indication of this. Roathe has a whole thing about some Orokin weren’t high up enough for Kuva and would just die

[clever linden]

More machine than living person

Killed and rebuilt several times

[cunning ore]

Lech Krill got cool theme

[fast dew]

The cryoleums :3

[stiff fable]

They had both cloning technology and transference technology. They could literally clone themselves, fix the genetic defects caused by aging and swap into their own younger body

[cunning ore]

So i ponder. If they are Grineer and from the same formula of cloning? How would the Original would lookalike? Acting like?

[stiff fable]

They didn't WANT to do that

[fast dew]

It still happened tbh

[stiff fable]

It's explained in one of the Simaris scans

One Grineer managed to kill a Sentient drone with a mining tool

[fast dew]

The cryoleums existed, i imagine Gerivaine was in it

[clever linden]

Uh, like Valdur?

So actually Honorable

[stiff fable]

They took him to use as the basis for all soldier Grineer

The original was a miner who mined and enjoyed mining.

[cunning ore]

But the clones seem have other traits and personalities, so i just ponder like many many.

[fast dew]

I don't think we can particularly say what's honourable or not when it comes to slaves forced to work for the orokin

[cunning ore]

Lech Krill, Vay Hek the Vor...they from Grineer faction and what is the different of the formula that make them unique

[stiff fable]

(in perfect fairness, Orokin civilization without the Orokin would have been pretty sweet)

[cunning ore]

See no green, it a 9 to me. Beautiful but soulless

[clever linden]

Come on u seriously gonna say my man Valdur wasn’t a real one

[stiff fable]

That's mostly because we're seeing it after 1000 years of Corpus/Grineer fighting over it

Venus in particular should have been temperate

Whether than means Morrowind mushroom forests or actual Earth terraforming I can't say

[cunning ore]

🙁 i really want to see that time..it sound like heaven

[strange turtle]

Transference was a new development but besides that. Why do you think that if Kuva was restricted, Transference tech wouldn’t be either

[fast dew]

?? Im not discrediting his actions, im saying that there isn't much of a choice for grineer to be honourable. Because. Being slaves force their hand to act unhonourably

[clever linden]

What is?

[stiff fable]

Oh, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying they had the technology to avoid body stealing and chose not to use it.

[clever linden]

Tenno acted honourable even in Orokin time, Lotus says as much, so I think Valdur definitely was as well

[cunning ore]

The time Orokin was on Earth and may still have the greeness of plants and other natural things.

[fast dew]

The tenno aren't genetically forced to obey the closest orokin :p

[strange turtle]

Ah, yeah I see what you mean

[clever linden]

Well, they used Sarin to cleanse earth of the infestation

But I don’t think they lived on earth much

Lua was their capital

[cunning ore]

That why i feel sad. There structures amazing and i swear if it could have greenness it might belike the Babylon Garden

Oh and the captura on Lua suck 😭

[strange turtle]

Yeah it was most likely already ruined by the time the Orokin were around on account of all the radiation wars going on, + Infestation stuff, + pollution, + whatever other stuff they did to deal with Technocyte

[clever linden]

I believe Narmer structures built on earth may be our closest look at Orokin sensibilities adapted for earths modern environment

[smoky gulch]

IIRC clone leadership isn't stated to be anyhow forced into production, so they are probably on the top of the chain by merit and years of service?

[clever linden]

Even if sentient algorithms played a role in building everything too

[cunning ore]

If the origin was from one, i just curious at how there is the diversity lately

[smoky gulch]

Experience - while you can genetically mold a person, it'd be exceptionally hard to trim their experiences into one size fit all

[cunning ore]

I think it just Ballas idea of making factories on Earth more than rebuild the Orokin time

[spare brook]

Question could a Warframe survive reentry onto a planet without their ship while burning up by the world's atmosphere?

[cunning ore]

Can Uriel count in this?

[strange plinth]

we've seen it happen on perita
it was a moon but the frame definitely still survived

[clever linden]

I mean he made more then factories, he also made propaganda drones and statues and monuments, he thought Narmer Empire could last forever

The “blow up the sun” thing was an act of desperation

[stiff fable]

though there was something about the atmosphere and the academy was in low orbit

Full atmo reentry, probably not

[spare brook]

Don't moons lack a substantial atmosphere?

[fast dew]

Not all I think

[stiff fable]

The moon was partially terraformed

but incompletely

[strange plinth]

that moon had an atmosphere iirc
just not a human-breathable one

ignore ballas in the one cutscene idk what was up with that

[stiff fable]

regardless I think Titania could survive but I would bet most Warframe couldn't

[fast dew]

Holding his breath or smthn

[stiff fable]

(the joke is that Titania is an archwing)

[strange turtle]

Larger ones can have substantial ones, but yeah usually they do

[cunning ore]

I don't know. Everywhere i go to (yea spending most time gazing at Ballas's holograms) it seemed like he reused more than rebuilt. And morelike installing sentinent+Narmer's tech in there.

Oh, i forgot his head in Venus

[clever linden]

That’s what Narmers specialty was, fusing and amalgamizing tau and origin system tech, it was done with everything because Ballas and the sentient leadership saw “all” as “one”

[inland pike]

I really wished DE would expand on the lore of nidus (an potentially the prime version) since nidus has so little lore since hes been in the game Ik the final gambit quest exist but i don’t really think it explains a whole lot about nidus and with Garuda (who also has little lore to work with) getting actual lore with the next dev stream. Maybe nidus could get the same treatment in the future.

[smoky gulch]

Garuda 😌

[pale cedar]

I don’t think people even wanted Garuda lore till Rebb said Steve forgot

[stiff fable]

eh it was there

[strange plinth]

there was definitely a wave of it after but the desire was there before

[stiff fable]

But Reb mentioning it brought global attention to it and meant a chance to bully Steve

[fast dew]

It was a normal amount, not as feral it is now

[pale cedar]

The people who keep asking for it now are the ones who didn’t care for it beforehand

[strange plinth]

is it just petros and gerivaine that needed updating or is there another bit that needs changed

[strange turtle]

Thats pretty normal though

She had literally nothing going for her

Yeah some people are gonna be interested because of the sheer lack of info creating a mystery, but most people just aren’t gonna care or expect anything

But then it got promised, and people got interested because there was actually something to look forward to

[pale cedar]

Just those 2

Unless you want to add the fact Rebb told Thomas Albrecht had another child

[strange turtle]

Ig you could add “Son’s fiance” with a skull next to it

[pale cedar]

You could add a skull next to where Albrechts mother is too because she’s definitely dead by now

Actually
We never hear about Albrechts father

[strange turtle]

Immaculate Conception

Or perhaps Parthogenesis

[radiant pier]

ASEXUAL REPRODUCTION

[strange turtle]

Him going to 1899 and doing religious stuff for a bit was just a return to his roots

[strange plinth]

no child mentioned for them, so i'm not sure
or i'd have to be consistent and put loid on there too
which. apparently might be needed, given the comments thomas finds sometimes...

[radiant pier]

sometimes?

[pale cedar]

Should make it
Albrechts unmentioned Father

[strange turtle]

Some people thought Loid is a clone or Albrecht’s son

[radiant pier]

that's the joke

you get someone asking almost everyday lol

[strange turtle]

Oh- wait really?

I’ve never seen these mfs outside the Thomas screenshots before 😭

[pale cedar]

TikTok is honestly the worst place for lore so it isn’t shocking they are bad at it

[mint delta]

Parthenogenesis

[spare brook]

Budding counts too.

[celest needle]

How sensitive is Duviri to very traumatized people stumbling into it?

Kullevero got his own section even

[stiff fable]

Not very

Teshin and Albrecht were both treated like new residents

[pale cedar]

It’s just a place in the Void thus CE is a possibility

[stiff fable]

Scholar's Landing was given to Albrecht, while Teshin seems to have claimed the part of Duviri closest to the Zariman for himself

Kullervo is the odd one out really

[radiant pier]

put me in the void and you'd have 5 additional spirals just off-rip frfr

[stiff fable]

(Though that's actually because he isn't there anymore)

[radiant pier]

one spiral being yuri

I shall be the orowyrm equivalent of this spiral

[stiff fable]

(The seventh cage representing the crime that got Kullervo chucked into the Void is empty)

(Meaning the real Kullervo broke out of Duviri ages ago)

[celest needle]

the what huh now?

[smoky gulch]

He's out there, hating

[stiff fable]

fam, you're in the wrong Discord for that

[celest needle]

so is he just
floating somewhere?

at somewhere?

[stiff fable]

Could be! maybe he Void-primed himself and went after Ballas again

[smoky gulch]

Well, that ship already sailed

[spare brook]

Which channel is appropriate for the post?

[stiff fable]

Different Discord

[celest needle]

Stoat

[stiff fable]

No one here has the context to say anything

It's like asking a Naruto Discord about Ninja Gaiden

The only thing they have in common is ninjas

[hasty zephyr]

I've been wondering how they would do Kullervo Prime, considering he can't just Prime himself like Lavos, and the Orokin wouldn't do it, naturally.

[celest needle]

Maybe the original Kullie was Kullie prime

[spare brook]

All I'm asking how good the animation looks and how messed up the guy did doing that move.

[stiff beacon]

revenant prime route

[strange plinth]

not including albrecht's other mystery child(ren) that may or may not exist until they have more proof of existing

[hasty zephyr]

Yeah that's probably the most obvious choice

[stiff fable]

I'm excited for Kullervo Prime because we'll finally get Vaenn

As a weapon rather than a skin

[stiff beacon]

i mean

maybe

[hasty zephyr]

Is that confirmed?

[stiff fable]

I don't see why they wouldn't

[strange plinth]

also get Courier New'd because i forgot about my default font n i don't want to change it now

[stiff fable]

Kullervo+Rauta+Vaenn

[pale cedar]

Kullervo is simple Kullervo you meet isn’t that only Kullervo in existence

[stiff fable]

That's a prime access right there

[hasty zephyr]

I really want a big sword that's actually viable or fun to use

[stiff fable]

Gram Prime with the tennogen Xenoblade skin

[celest needle]

If you helminth'd a Grineer?

[stiff fable]

err, you mean like, used a helminth serum on him?

[strange plinth]

probably not much different than a non-clone
maybe the clonerot interferes a little, but probably not

[celest needle]

yeah

[radiant pier]

are there any frames that're just completely unique? like there's only one of em

[stiff fable]

Base Protea

[radiant pier]

besides Umbra

[stiff fable]

Revenant

Lavos and Valkyr as we know them

[hasty zephyr]

I'd assume Limbo too?

[stiff fable]

(the original Lavos model didn't have alchemy powers, Valkyr is a skinned "Gersemi" Warframe)

[hasty zephyr]

Oh, wait, nvm you mean it like that

[stiff fable]

Limbo wasn't unique to our awareness

[celest needle]

All gen one frames?

[stiff beacon]

umbra

nokko

[stiff fable]

Dagath

[radiant pier]

how does valkyr prime exist exactly?

[stiff beacon]

revenant

[stiff fable]

Nokko we actually don't know

[pale cedar]

The funny thing about both Leverian and quests with Warframe lore that that’s generally just one instance of a frame in action not the only instance of a frame in action

[dire current]

Nokko is unique for now. We don't know if there's more or not, outside of what we Tenno have created by now

[stiff fable]

Right, which is why I'm picking Warframes that were fundamentally changed before they came into our hands

[strange plinth]

tortured by the orokin instead of alad, maybe
or the torture of gersemi echoed back into the valkyr strain because infestation has a weird relationship with time
probably the former

[stiff fable]

So, Dagath

[celest needle]

Oh right Temple!

[stiff fable]

Nah, there are others

What kicks off Flare's existential crisis is finding out about the Temple Warframe in fact

Flare was the first, instead

[radiant pier]

so there are.....other fire guitar wielding Warframes out there?

[strange plinth]

Temple never got made, Flare is that Temple

[radiant pier]

oh so there's just one temple?

[stiff beacon]

outside the copy we make yes

[stiff fable]

The Temple blueprints we have include Lizzie, which is what sends Flare in a non-funny way

[radiant pier]

okay what about valkyr?

[strange turtle]

Nope

[stiff fable]

supposedly Gersemi was a standard model or whatever, but we only copy and use Valkyr

[pale cedar]

Valkyr has no issues existing

[strange plinth]

valkyr

[strange turtle]

We know they’d turn multiple people into the same strain

At the very least, they did it with the Urielings

[hasty zephyr]

As far as we know isn't Qorvex a 1 of 1 deal because he was made by Albrecht for the chosen operator?

[celest needle]

we dont know if he was even made

or just blueprinted

[hasty zephyr]

Ah, yeah true

[stiff beacon]

yea i mean who the hell slapping a demon core in more then one person

[strange plinth]

designed by albrecht
though nothing says qorvex never got sent outside of the labs, afaik

[celest needle]

He never got to give sentients super cancer 🥀

[pale cedar]

Or the Prime was always feral Infestation and all and the base version became feral due to Alad

[hasty zephyr]

I can see the Qorvex we get being like, Murmur corrupted blueprint, considering he's sorta brutalist and only the murmur does that aesthetic

[radiant pier]

any.....confirmations or like nah not really

[hasty zephyr]

Considering the Orokin are totally fine making frames like Saryn I'd say a good 90% of them

[strange plinth]

not really, valkyr's situation is a little weird
so we have theories instead of a rev prime situation

[stiff fable]

so, unique standalone models:
Dagath, Lavos, Protea, Revenant, Temple, Valkyr, Voruna, Xaku
Big maybe: Chroma (ripped off a Sentient's skin), Sevagoth (Shadow)

[pale cedar]

Both Valkyr and Valkyr Prime can easily be explained to why they’re both feral

[stiff fable]

note that Protea Prime was a standard model, base Protea was the original and exclusively owned by Parvos

[stiff beacon]

can we add umbra to the list or no?

[strange plinth]

voruna doesn't have to be unique, afaik
unless you just mean the one with the heads grafted on, which could be unique
though her prime has them

[stiff fable]

Umbra was an Excalibur, so no

[stiff beacon]

ah

but

he has a different 3

[stiff fable]

Keeping his sanity also does not make him unique

Jade is much more sane

[hasty zephyr]

Speaking of, is Jade not a unique one?

[stiff fable]

probably not

[strange plinth]

nothing says they can't inject another person with that strain

[stiff fable]

The one we know was in a unique situation

but yeah that

[strange plinth]

her creation may have been unique but later ones do not have to be

[hasty zephyr]

True, true...

[drowsy saddle]

But are the copies also pregagante?

[stiff fable]

no

[strange plinth]

the ones we get are

[pale cedar]

All Warframes are sentient with enough motivation

The only unique thing about Umbra in that regard is the reason why he’s sentient

[stiff fable]

The copies only have the jade light where the fetus was in the original Jade

[strange plinth]

same orb

[stiff fable]

But not Sirius/Orion

[pale cedar]

No Warframe can get pregnant

[hasty zephyr]

I want to make a joke but I'd rather not risk it.

[drowsy saddle]

Momma didn't raise no quitter

[stiff fable]

Anyway yeah Voruna would be another model like Lavos, where the one we copy had some fundamental change from how they were

[stiff beacon]

which changed all other models

[stiff fable]

Not enough for a new identity like Revenant or Valkyr

[radiant pier]

I don't get voruna prime tho

....ain't she a child

look at the pretty flowers bro

[stiff fable]

Presumably somewhere there is a Lavos that doesn't have alchemy and is just a brute with a hammer

The one we copy is the one changed by meeting Javi

[hasty zephyr]

I take back my statement. Hildryn.

[strange plinth]

something close to it, at least
was a servant girl, then a yuvan, then a warframe

[radiant pier]

look at the pretty flowers....

[stiff beacon]

nah the helminth would hook him up with alchemy

[stiff fable]

doesn't really work like that

Otherwise every Excalibur would be Umbra

[radiant pier]

are there.....a lot of Lavos Primes?

[stiff fable]

There sure are now

[radiant pier]

I'm just gonna assume

[stiff fable]

But also not every Lavos is Lavos Prime

[radiant pier]

that half our primes don't make sense LMAO

[pale cedar]

Nah, you ain’t gonna succeed in this endeavour

[stiff fable]

because again we're making copies of specific models

[radiant pier]

were primes ALWAYS a thing in this game's early life?

[stiff fable]

Yeah actually

[strange plinth]

rell binding himself to harrow managed to bind rell to every harrow
so sufficient interference does affect all of them

[stiff fable]

Excalibur Prime is literally how they funded the game

[hasty zephyr]

If it ends up with me getting all *207 of my bones crushed then that's a success in my books

[radiant pier]

that confuses me even more now

[stiff fable]

But that's literally Harrow's entire thing lol

Sacrifice and binding

not necessarily in that order

[pale cedar]

Why?

[strange turtle]

Also Rell’s interference doesn’t actually functionally change anything

[fast dew]

That. Is a teenager

[smoky gulch]

Keep in mind surprising portion of playerbase are peers to Yareli's age (at conversion to warframe)

[fast dew]

True, but still, id. Keep that shit to myself 😭

Folk forget that there isnt one rating across the globe for warframe

Here in Australia its only 15+ last i checked

Tada :p

[smoky gulch]

Yeah, it's 13-18 recommended age, TOS (and Discord) require 13+ years minimum, but it's fair to assume adulthood unless proven otherwise when talking

[fast dew]

Ehh, ive always assumed everyone as minors until informed otherwise, makes it easier to not do something that'll get me a google doc written about me

[hasty zephyr]

Again I have been grossly misinformed and I take that opinion back.

[fast dew]

Here's a protip, delete the message or folk will continue to reply and correct 😭

[pale cedar]

Technically

We don't know that Yareli is actually a teenager just that Yareli is youth and youth isn't just teenager plus the fact how long a human can live in the Warframe universe considering Darvo is seen as a teenager at almost 105

[fast dew]

This is how I learned that the Australian classification site has rated doom 1 + 2 four times, for some reason

With. Differing capitalisations???

[fast dew]

Its moreso the label of yuvan that makes it highly likely to be a teenager, + her theming being based around a typical anime magical girl trope, who are. School age teenagers

[pale cedar]

Theme doesn't necessarily determine age is the issue

Especially in Warframe

[fast dew]

Ehhh

[pale cedar]

DE like making things based on things very loosely

[fast dew]

Its not on a individual basis yeah

But. With other things leaning towards her being a teenager, it gets more and more likely :p

[pale cedar]

It's not really something we can tell till DE says an age which they won't

[fast dew]

Its. Better safe then sorry + just in general she is based visually on a teenage girl and that's enough for me

[pale cedar]

It's better safe just saying she might be a teenager

[hasty zephyr]

Yeah just did I know better than to play with fire 😭

[mint delta]

Wut happened

[mint delta]

Ello book

[mint delta]

Y'all talking about Kaya or whatever?

[fast dew]

Yareli

[mint delta]

Yareli is canonically not an adult?

[strange turtle]

She was a Yuvan

Who were all not adults

[mint delta]

Oh right

[fast dew]

Back in the day they were, but. Given its a newer yuvan I severely doubt it

[strange turtle]

So she’s at most like, 16-17, assuming age stuff stayed the same

[mint delta]

I saw on tiktok people complaining that they couldn't date Kaya , is that one a kid or what

[fast dew]

Adults, in the start they slowly became. Not that

[hasty zephyr]

What kind of people are found on tiktok man...

[mint delta]

People modding pragmata and being proud of it..

[fast dew]

She's freshly 19 :p she turned 19 on January first, 1999

[mint delta]

[mint delta]

Ohh

[fast dew]

So. Not illegal but really really weird

[strange turtle]

She’s like 19, she’s just undateable because of trauma

[mint delta]

Who cares about Kaya , give me the french nun

Lol

[hasty zephyr]

Ew.

[fast dew]

I also don't like that they chose wisp for that, tbh. Should've been equinox.

They made up for it a little by making it hard for casual players to romance marie

[mint delta]

Exactly.

[smoky gulch]

"Uh, stranger danger? Sorry, you're cool, I get that, I just... can't talk to you yet. Gotta wait until the Britannic dude gets the stick out of his ass."

[fast dew]

Shout out kaya

[mint delta]

Who's dialogue is this

[smoky gulch]

Kaya

[fast dew]

Kaya

[hasty zephyr]

See I'm into a lot of weeb shit so this is nothing new but that half of the pragmata fanbase genuinely has to go man

[strange turtle]

Pragmata?

[mint delta]

Half are people who lost their child or want to be dads and the other half is mentally ill

[fast dew]

She is also supposed to be from. The equivalent of the Philippines

[mint delta]

Hot

[hasty zephyr]

Real??

[fast dew]

It has a little girl, from memory she. Might be some robot? But she's. In a big jacket dress thing

[pale cedar]

Do we know where all the Hex are from?

[mint delta]

Little robot in the form of a little girl

And she gets piggybacked by uh a human in a suit

[dire current]

Arthur, Eleanor and Quincy are from the UK equivalent, Amir from the US, Lettie from Mexico, and Aoi from Japan or the US, IIRC

[mint delta]

They have to kill malware

[hasty zephyr]

With those kinds of games it's always either baby fever or genuine crimes 💔

[ocean geyser]

What the hell is pragmata

[fast dew]

And. Because shes in a knee length dress, she doesn't have pants, yk like how most people wear dresses, and folk decided to go feral and gross

[mint delta]

Go look it up breh

[ocean geyser]

OHHH

WAIT NO I KNOW

[hasty zephyr]

It doesn't matter if she's in a dress that's still a child, people are weird asf

[ocean geyser]

Nobody said otherwise

[pale cedar]

You sound hyped what is it?

[mint delta]

It's sad cause it ruins the vibe for people genuinely wanting a wholesome moment with a virtual kiddo they can refer to as a daughter

[fast dew]

Mhm. A kid shouldn't be forced to wear pants under a dress 😭 i for one hated that shit as a kid

[ocean geyser]

I had a moment of understanding

Wish people would stop being dumb as hell tho

[mint delta]

Space dad simulator

[fast dew]

I hated dresses but I hated having clothes touch my legs more. Gender dysphoria vs Sensory processing issues, whos gonna win

[strange turtle]

Oh the PS5 one

[dire current]

Ah yes, Dad Space

[mint delta]

D(e)ad space indeed

[hasty zephyr]

I'm just saying, some people justify it in that odd way, and I think it's uh... Very telling.

[fast dew]

Why the dad kinda look like Samuel hayden, on the side at least

[pale cedar]

Loid space dad simulator when?

[ocean geyser]

It kinda looks like she just has a giant ass winter jacket on fr

[hasty zephyr]

It happens in any game with a character who is even remotely childlike. Quite disgusting tbh.

[mint delta]

Idk

[fast dew]

Hold on lemme

[ocean geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-gif-22276944

[mint delta]

Yea u can change it to other stuff too

[fast dew]

Danke

[ocean geyser]

Oh

[hasty zephyr]

I know for a fact like. At the climax of the game she's gonna sacrifice herself to save him or smth.

I haven't played it but I can just tell

[fast dew]

And i think that'll make me cry

[pale cedar]

Thomas everything looks like something Doom-related if you look deep enough

[fast dew]

Detroit become human style

[fast dew]

Yeah autistic pattern recognition can be insane like that

[strange turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-deep-the-boys-gif-26305579

[fast dew]

Dare I say Samuel hayden kinda looks like a horse

[strange turtle]

guh

a horse???

[hasty zephyr]

Horse you say?

[mint delta]

https://youtube.com/shorts/74n2dT-tMa0?si=t1HWkazdZYAxLHvI

[fast dew]

I. Was supposed to attach a image

His spencer concept art specifically

[pale cedar]

Void looks like Doom Heaven
Nobody in the multiverse can disagree

[mint delta]

Near death experience but she doesn't die

[dark compass]

All I heard about pragmata is them designing an area to look ai generated and adding a crying emote to twitch that a lot of people associated with a very very shitty dogwhistle

[hasty zephyr]

I hate that the crying emoji is part of said dogwhistle because I'm so used to using it like punctuation

[hasty zephyr]

Thank goodness

[strange turtle]

The Uoh 😭 thing?

[fast dew]

Im not schizophrenic look

[pale cedar]

I hate the crying emoji so much because half the time the person isn't actually crying

[fast dew]

That looks like a horse

[mint delta]

||Her wish is to go w Hugh to the ocean and they do go and have fun ||

[hasty zephyr]

He looks like a metro seat

[fast dew]

HE DOES

[hasty zephyr]

Or like

[fast dew]

He looks like an apple device

[hasty zephyr]

The waiting room chairs at the hospital I work at

[dark compass]

Yeah

[fast dew]

iSAM or smthn

[fast dew]

Tada this is just the void

[fast dew]

My local hospital has. Soft chairs because we wait for yonks 😭
-# I don't work there im just. There a lot

[pale cedar]

See
Nobody can tell me they don't look similar

[dark compass]

From being designed like a seat to having handles

He is never beating the allegations

[fast dew]

Genuinely some of the funniest design aspects of Samuel

Outside him being. A brain in a jar

[pale cedar]

Thomas is the smartest Doom character smarter than Albrecht?

[fast dew]

Half. Half a brain

[fast dew]

That. Would be the seraphs [yes seraphs not seraphim], including Samur, and. Yeah absolutely

[hasty zephyr]

Oh I'm also in the hospital a lot dw.

I think most for-profit hospitals have comfy waiting rooms here... The one I work in is a non-profit and I don't think they can really invest in seating

[fast dew]

Its a public hospital here so. Idk if its just accepting donations but it wouldn't be surprising 😭 they're in the triage itself too

The mental health ward has recliners in their waiting room tho

[dark compass]

I'm not touching this game even with a stick

[fast dew]

-# And their evaluation room too

[fast dew]

The game is fine. The community is rancid

[hasty zephyr]

Interesting. Most hospitals here have beds in the triage era, and usually a plastic chair or two next to them.

[fast dew]

A cesspit if you will

[fast dew]

There might be beds at the other end? Only time ive been in there is when I. Am not conscious

[pale cedar]

Game communities are often a bad idea

[hasty zephyr]

I can't testify though, I've been going to basically just one hospital since I've been born, the second hospital I frequent is, where I work and study.

[fast dew]

Oh and the one time the mental evaluation rooms were in that side because the hospital was being rebuilt

[pale cedar]

Think Warframe has hospitals?

[fast dew]

It. Might be from. Different countries? Im Australian and our ER is. Weird

[hasty zephyr]

It's comedic, I'm some kinda celebrity in the hospital.

[hasty zephyr]

I'm Indian so I'd chalk it up to that

[hasty zephyr]

I don't think so

[fast dew]

Its interesting regardless

[fast dew]

Albrecht used one in. 1999

[woven coyote]

Medical debt-bond

[pale cedar]

For himself or someone else?

[fast dew]

They mention bodies but im unsure if they're meaning. Cadavers or whole ass people he might’ve killed

[hasty zephyr]

I mean I think they have medical treatments just not proper hospitals

[hasty zephyr]

1999 is basically our world with some big changes so I didn't consider that tbh

[fast dew]

Others, its. When he was.. maybe testing the vaccine..?

[hasty zephyr]

Like, Lettie is a medic so that's just a given

[pale cedar]

Ig they had to exist in Orokin time somewhat considering lorists were a thing

[fast dew]

Amir mentions it somewhere, in the comic maybe?

[fast dew]

Aint she a vet 😭

[pale cedar]

She's a medic that's why she was the first to rush to Arthur

[hasty zephyr]

Like a veterinary doctor? No I don't think so... They used to work for a crisis response unit right? Unless they used animals I think she's a human doctor

[fast dew]

Also while we're on Albrecht, to explain this, Albrecht is smart and all but there's smart and there's using the all knowing machine to create aspects of the universe 😭

[pale cedar]

Albrecht creating a universe when?

[fast dew]

She was. Tangently related to raccoons somewhere so it could be me forgetting stuff

[hasty zephyr]

What the heck am I missing..? I thought she just kept pet rats?

[fast dew]

Smthn smthn. Rabies

It was in the silent carrier conversation somewhere

[ocean geyser]

Also since scrap was the only one here last time:
im pretty sure that one Corpus Reactor tileset has Crewmen get fed to the reactor

[woven coyote]

Field medic, military like quincy, aoi and arthur

[ocean geyser]

Yeah i know this one
I think she was in an animal shelter?

They had raccoons that ACTED fine
But began transmitting rabies like crazy once released

[hasty zephyr]

I think she was just talking about how rabies doesn't show any symptoms until it's too late to treat? Kinda like techrot?

[pale cedar]

Amir is the only Hex member who wasn't working on the battlefield

[woven coyote]

Volunteered as a child

[ocean geyser]

There

[fast dew]

Because. Rabies can be a silent disease
-# btw the easiest test to asymptomatic rabies is to do a post mortem brain biopsy :p

[ocean geyser]

She’s attributing that to the techrot vaccine thing Entrati made

It made the infected asymptomatic

[hasty zephyr]

Rabies normally shows flu-like symptoms, but when it reaches the brain is when you see the usually associated symptoms and the impact on the brain causes animals to act irrationally and bite, which in turn causes the virus-filled saliva to enter the wound and, y'know.

[fast dew]

Mhm

[hasty zephyr]

Miserable disease. I got bit by a dog once and had to get 5 shots.

[hasty zephyr]

Ahh I see

[fast dew]

One of my alloidlings is. Lemme check i think they're a. Shit i forgot their job

Uhh. Genetic pathologist....?

There's. A biologist somewhere in there too i think

[hasty zephyr]

Ok that's really cool

[fast dew]

Yeah and to think we know each other over old men kissing

[hasty zephyr]

Old man yaoi has changed lives

[fast dew]

Truly

[woven coyote]

Still have a feeling lettie was wrong about the silent carriers bit

Like for one the plague year was already known as that before albrecht
And then we can walk around relays without making relays into infested derelicts

[hasty zephyr]

I know one of my best friends because we used to rp old man yaoi from a fighting game franchise

[fast dew]

Loid has kept me stable for too long

[fast dew]

REAL

[fast dew]

There's. The whole aspect of how she even knew it was the vaccine and not. Normal exposure

I don't know how she knew it wasn't that

[woven coyote]

And if anyone says oh the protoframes were different and were silent carriers, there's just kaya hanging out in larunda now so by that logic larunda is lost now

[fast dew]

Techrot is spore based

Spores can last for yonks

[fast dew]

Yeah exactly

[woven coyote]

again

[hasty zephyr]

Yakuza yaoi can save lives #real!!

[woven coyote]

Imagine De just has to blow up larunda again because of kaya being there and trasmiting techrot to the whole relay

[fast dew]

Like are we sure it wasn't just regular transmission and she's just looking for someone to blame

[hasty zephyr]

Ah fungi such a delightful kingdom

[fast dew]

Me and my loid floofs. The day that was announced was. A horrid day. But loid floof!!!!!

[pale cedar]

I still find it funny relays only got blown up all those years ago because players wanted to see what happens

[hasty zephyr]

I too love my floof of a sad old twink. Brings me great joy.

[tall echo]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-getting-out-of-hand-now-there-are-two-star-wars-viceroy-jedi-gif-11488909

[woven coyote]

I remember people in region chat arguing on which relay should be kept

Think some were trying to leave only pluto up to troll low mr players

[fast dew]

I have multiple in here, the Albrecht shrine

• loid and random shit Albrecht had in the netracells

[tall echo]

I didn't get a loid floof bc I had to get other stuff from baro that week

[hasty zephyr]

This "decorating the backroom" thing has levels to it 😭

[tall echo]

weird how your albrecht shrine is in the same spot as my collection of 1999 displays

[fast dew]

It got too big for the orbiter.

[fast dew]

This is honestly pretty ugly compared to other people's decorations

[tall echo]

not by much

[hasty zephyr]

It reminds me of my cousin's Power (like from Chainsaw Man) shrine

That is a compliment.

[fast dew]

Yay :D

[tall echo]

tho I'm really not used to seeing default backroom colors anymore

[hasty zephyr]

I find it quite funny the drifter keeps their atomicycle in the backroom

[fast dew]

Wanna know something even better?

[hasty zephyr]

Please, go on

[fast dew]

Albrecht modified those atomicycles

He. He put micro missiles.

On a. Motorbike.

[hasty zephyr]

On paper that sounds very cool but as someone whose primary form of transport is a motorcycle I can't help but wonder how scuffed it is

[fast dew]

He also canonically gets high as shit with loid

[hasty zephyr]

The cloaking thing is very cool though.

[fast dew]

It. Has an insane amount of horsepower too

Uhh where's the website holdon

[woven coyote]

Pfft benevolently alter it

[hasty zephyr]

It's on par with a modern cream of the crop superbike if I'm not mistaken

[hasty zephyr]

I've seen it, the nerd I am

[fast dew]

Yuppers, debatable if its street legal, and this is. unmodified atomicycle horsepower

[tall echo]

there really are two thomases now
thomi?
thom..s?

[hasty zephyr]

No way in hell it is street legal

But then again... Considering they advertise it like that...

[fast dew]

Ive been yapping about doom too hard i gotta get the exact number

220 horsepower from memory

[hasty zephyr]

My actual irl motorcycle generates roughly 45 HP at 7250 RPM and that takes a while to get used to paired with the weight and torque, the atomicycle is a whole other beast tbh

I wish it had a cruiser style skin in the game, the superbike look is cool and all but yeah

[fast dew]

He. Also extended the fuel tank, or. Wanted to

But he did make note of the visuals

[hasty zephyr]

I wonder what the mileage on that thing is

[fast dew]

He liked it, as a. Morale enhancer

[fast dew]

Whuh

Albrecht why. Why are you even touching it

[hasty zephyr]

Like I said, whole other beast

[hasty zephyr]

I drive a mid-power cruiser, something like this would lowkey just kill me tbh

[hasty zephyr]

Probably very shit now that I think of it

[fast dew]

I think it had. Maybe a litre tank?

Nah its just. + an extra litre

[hasty zephyr]

There's no way it's just a litre... That's usually like, auxiliary tank size

[hasty zephyr]

Yeah.

[fast dew]

More of Albrecht's sticky notes i fw

[smoky gulch]

I think Albrecht likes to mess with things just for the pure joy of messing concise designs

[fast dew]

"(Benevolently)" is my favourite Albrecht quote

[hasty zephyr]

Albrecht would genuinely die if he sees the comedy that passes as automobile design here in India

[fast dew]

I think most of the orokin would pass away at any of the current tech 😭

[smoky gulch]

The true Indifference is Albrecht's lack of care towards hard work and lives of the others he messes with, atp /j

[fast dew]

See, a lot of folk genuinely believe this

But they don't. Realise that its not indifference

Its pragmatism

He feels that guilt, that disgust with himself

But he needs to continue

Indifference is lacking those feelings

[hasty zephyr]

Yeah but this is... Something else entirely.

There's this motorcycle that proudly advertised itself having a feature to turn off when it idles, and restarts when you pull the clutch, which sounds lovely for the traffic...

Except it used to do that at the slightest pauses which was not very ideal!

[fast dew]

Oh. Thats. Really really bad 😭

[hasty zephyr]

If Albrecht went to a vaguely south asian country instead of hollvania he'd have let wally win 😭

[fast dew]

See i like to believe that. Höllvania is/was in germany somewhere, and Albrecht chose it cuz. He seems to have some form of german lineage

[hasty zephyr]

I mean... Albrecht is a German name but does the idea of German lineage or similar things even exist in the Orokin empire anymore?

[fast dew]

I mean. His mother called him little bengel as a kid, bengel being a german word

[hasty zephyr]

Or my lovely motorcycle.

Doesn't have a complete chain guard for the purpose of aesthetics. And "maintenance" and "heat".

Except things can be caught on this and if you lube it even too much your pants are now ruined

[hasty zephyr]

Can't believe his mom just used to call him a brat all the time

[fast dew]

My mate got. Their leg bitten down on by one of those i think

[hasty zephyr]

Yeah motorcycle chains and wheels are no joke, especially in a country like mine where many people wear flow-y clothes. It's an unspoken rule to immediately flag down and tell people if something's about to get caught somewhere it shouldn't.

[fast dew]

Ye, I did. Mountain bike racing when I was younger [I didnt break anything surprisingly] and. There's a reason racers wear shorts. Ive seen nasty crashes from pants getting caught

[hasty zephyr]

Yeah I used to use a bicycle a ton to commute too and getting your pants caught is always gonna lead to some extremely unpleasant outcome

[fast dew]

Shout out to the time I ate total shit on a trail cuz my laces got caught on the gears 💔 unpleasant

[hasty zephyr]

This is why I always wore beach sandals

[fast dew]

Can't risk that for me, I stop with my feet and. Having rocks come at your feet at speeds unknown hurts. A lot

[rigid compass]

Yall ever wonder what unum tower meat tastes like?
🤔

[fast dew]

I mean, not particularly

Not a fan of. Meat sometimes

[rigid compass]

Lock in bro and ask the real questions

Does operator ever take a dump?

If he ages and eats then surely they must?

Maybe a secret bathroom in their quarters

Do warframes like helminth or in their heads are they begging for us to not let helminth perform maintainance

[hasty zephyr]

Whale meat

[rigid compass]

Does hunhow practice what hes gonna say before he talks to us? Is he actually lowering his voice? Maybe he has a high pitched voice

[hasty zephyr]

He's like one of those fake male asmr vtubers I believe

Like his voice is comedically and artificially deep for sentients

And he does it because there's no one else to call him out on that

[fast dew]

Mm, do we have a good gauge on. Masc sentients?

Cuz we got. Adis, who's a kid

And Itzam

[hasty zephyr]

I remember one of my friends once wrote Hunhow mpreg fanfic because of that one line where he talks about his barren void-scarred womb.

[fast dew]

YEAH

[hasty zephyr]

Something something, fertility treatment timeskip

[fast dew]

Hes just pre-t guys leave him alone

[tall echo]

and erra

[fast dew]

Oh yeah and him

[hasty zephyr]

Does caliban count. The most input he has on the storyline is like. Getting evil ordis to use a racial slur.

[pale cedar]

Hunhow is the original Mpreg

It's not even fanfic stuff it's just how it is anyway

[fast dew]

True... I guess.? He doesn't have a voice tho..

[pale cedar]

I always wonder how the Warframes that can talk can talk

Stalker, it can be chalked up to old frame thing ig

[dire mountain]

I mean yeah isn't the thing with the sentients that they reproduce asexually

[pale cedar]

Yeah

[fast dew]

They reproduce with two sentients but. Also asexual

[tall echo]

he doesn't talk

[pale cedar]

How many Warframes can functionally talk?

Not counting in head stuff

[stiff beacon]

does howling count if so currently 2

[pale cedar]

I mean with mouth

Not screaming

[stiff beacon]

what mouth?

[pale cedar]

Is it just stalker in that case?

[fast dew]

Gianni..

https://tenor.com/view/gianni-matragrano-getgianni-go-my-scarab-gianni-gif-12145145092610025137

[tall echo]

giovanni

[tall echo]

he has no mouth

[stiff beacon]

yea unless you wanna count writing in which case dante

[hasty zephyr]

I meant that scene in the ||Old Peace|| where Daklo or whatever his name is looks at Caliban Prime, calls him a waste of Orokin guild, and then goes "Watch your mouth, void-lugger."

[tall echo]

ok but it was about sentients that talk

[fast dew]

Orokin try not to be racist assholes

Ik he ain't orokin but close enough

[pale cedar]

We can fix him

[tall echo]

we already did, through fear

[pale cedar]

Actually
Doesn't he come back anyway if we kill him?

Ordis survived

[tall echo]

maybe

[pale cedar]

I think due to it they won't show him again because of the choices

[strange turtle]

Also like, wouldn’t that make it really bad for Lettie to be nursing without a full hazmat getup?

[fast dew]

Mhm

It would be. Risky

[smoky gulch]

Finally did limbo theorem after 7 years of hiatus (hated archwing, hated interception, hated combination was hate squared)

Really liking the narrative style for this quest - it was simple, low effort, could do without Ordis explaining whole issue at the end

[celest needle]

man blows himself up cause math

[mint delta]

https://tenor.com/view/otto-octavius-spiderman-sam-raimi-tobey-maguire-peter-parker-gif-23378845

[celest needle]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[pale cedar]

https://youtu.be/wWAD5SvyM1o?si=e_ZH8lJWVkUFCfVh

[fast dew]

[fast dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952946035733438575/1461285583681753251/explode-1768467993232.gif

[celest needle]

Noooo albert

:[

[pale cedar]

Albrecht gone, carry on

[mint delta]

Albrecht is out of sight

[pale cedar]

Albrecht was all out of sight

[mint delta]

Revive Albrecht to give us more mechs

[pale cedar]

Albrecht didn't even make the original mechs

They were a gift

[fast dew]

Yeah lol

Vilcor [Father] made the mechs

[mint delta]

He's an archemedian , he could pull sum from his ass

[fast dew]

We don't know if he is

[mint delta]

Huh

[pale cedar]

He's an Orokin Scientist and that's all we’re told

[mint delta]

Wait so he doesn't even have the status of an archemedian?

[fast dew]

He's a scientist of various applications

[mint delta]

[fast dew]

He's above archimedian

Wayyy above

The title would be pointless

[mint delta]

Well him and Victor are alive, where are my mechs

[fast dew]

Though, someone close to him is

[mint delta]

[pale cedar]

He's never called an Archimedean because he's Orokin

[fast dew]

Vilcor, and.

You can make them

Go build bone widow

[mint delta]

Already have

I need more , I crave an expansion

I crave upgrades

[pale cedar]

Players are the reason there aren't more mechs

[mint delta]

And railjacks

Would be nice if we could change ships or do even more upgrades internally and externally

[pale cedar]

I don't think DE were ever planning more railjacks

[celest needle]

But I need a gundam

necragundam when?

[mint delta]

Any of the mech shows collabing with warframe would be peak

Decepticon faction

[mint delta]

The thing is railjacks aren't even combat ships

They're transport vehicles with some turrets installed

[fast dew]

They are

[pale cedar]

They're interceptors

[fast dew]

They are. Directly combat

[mint delta]

Isn't it stated they're for transport

Or something 🧐

[pale cedar]

No

[fast dew]

Vilcor used them in the old war too

Probably why they have necramech compatibility lol

[tall echo]

albrecht has nothing to do with mechs

[fast dew]

• necramechs are useful against sentients from memory

[pale cedar]

There were Railjacks used to rescue people but they're still combat ships

[tall echo]

no.? the tempestarii was a rescue ship but rjs in general are battle ships

[mint delta]

Necramechs are pre Warframe war machines

[fast dew]

Yes, im aware.

[tall echo]

because sentient pulses don't take them out

[fast dew]

Railjacks have necramech compatibility.

[mint delta]

And yea they're effective against those big thingies.

The big sentient stuff

[fast dew]

Orphix fields or whatever

[mint delta]

Orphix

[tall echo]

in hindsight, why didn't we just tear a path through the plains and cetus with our mech instead of sneaky sneaking in through the quills hideout

[mint delta]

Just orphix , they do generate fields which disable warframes yes but not mechs

[pale cedar]

Void shielded
Sentient pulse immune
Bright as a bag of hammers

[tall echo]

and just as dependable

[fast dew]

And then vilcor decided to say a line that made my head hurt

[mint delta]

Which is

[pale cedar]

Unlike you

[tall echo]

skibidi

[fast dew]

Wdym you met mother after Albrecht left but Albrecht was there for the grandchildren

[mint delta]

[tall echo]

this could be a whole sentence

[fast dew]

Orang

[tall echo]

utan?

[pale cedar]

Which is unlike you skibidi
If you don't like this fight me

[narrow pendant]

roki mitosis

[pale cedar]

I think most people with super-fast scores use glitches

[narrow pendant]

nah its just yareli having free dashes

and you can use operator sling to fix jumps but in most cases a fast enough board or just merulina can gap even decently far apart points faster

[fast dew]

Oh shit didn't know yareli's skatembord works

[pale cedar]

Well she is the original skateboarder

If she could'nt use her board something would be wrong

[narrow pendant]

drifter uses kdrive during new war, never is allowed to use it again

you cant mount it as drifter

[pale cedar]

Drifter uses Nataruk
Can never use it again

[narrow pendant]

ah. you cant even ride the kaithe summon as drifter lmao

[pale cedar]

Yeah

Can't use Archwing either

[narrow pendant]

laws too strict outside of duviri i see

[pale cedar]

Drifter and Warframe have the same model too

So it can work

[drowsy saddle]

What's the lore implications of this?

/s

[pale cedar]

DE just never added Drifter vehicle riding out of Duviri

[pale cedar]

This means Wally is no longer trapped in the Void

[drowsy saddle]

He's out there... Touching grass

Truly achieving character development

[pale cedar]

He's not touching grass he's floating above it

[fast dew]

Who's the other dude 😭

And. Why does wally have a huge chin lol

[drowsy saddle]

Limitations of the character creation system i think

[fast dew]

Smh

[drowsy saddle]

Billy Butcher

[pale cedar]

Better question is

Why isn't the sand demon heavier than regular human?

[drowsy saddle]

Conceptual embodiment

[pale cedar]

If Wally goes up instead of pushing down this mean I can pick Wally up just fine?

[dark compass]

Void weights nothing

[pale cedar]

Sweet

[narrow pendant]

muckin' diabolical

[pale cedar]

Time to just pick Wally up and throw him into the Sun

Why has nobody tried this?

[narrow pendant]

dont think that would affect him tbh

in the case that he was created by emotions, we can only beat him with some great act of emotion

[pale cedar]

Pick Wally up and throw him into a dating gameshow

[narrow pendant]

make wally read berserk

[fast dew]

Putting wally into a dating sim built in ren'py

[pale cedar]

Make him read Albrecht’s love diary

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/single-hit-real-cat-car-gif-15576000014729577925

[tall echo]

I wonder how wally would react to ddlc

[celest needle]

Mahoraga? 😭

[fast dew]

You know ball.
-# as in. Ren'py being used for ddlc

[tall echo]

coincidence

[pale cedar]

Wally vs dating game

[rigid compass]

NO DONT DISS MY GOAT

you solve 9 problems and nobody praises you but u mess up one and they laugh at you - Einstein

https://tenor.com/view/albert-einstein-lol-think-be-smart-think-wise-gif-8735407

[rigid compass]

7 YEARS

WHY YALL ACT LIKE ARCHWING IS HARD 😭

like railjack is one of the funnest gamemodes

[smoky gulch]

I didn't play wf for 7 years and came back 2 months ago

[rigid compass]

Ight fair

[smoky gulch]

So I am right only on technicality :P

[normal mountain]

Because
You play as archwing, not as warframe

It's the same stupid logic that led to no new Necramechs

[rigid compass]

Funny how we still got 2 new archwings. One being a prime lol

[normal mountain]

And no
I will not stop clowning the ENTIRE PLAYERBASE for it

[rigid compass]

For what?

Not playing mech?

I love mechs and archwing and railjack

[normal mountain]

For hating mech, and discouraging DE from making more

[rigid compass]

Honestly they hate on anything except the things they should hate on

Like de just following the free roam formula

Instead of giving actually new gamemodes

[normal mountain]

You see this mech?

[rigid compass]

Like de really needs to add content to railjack

[normal mountain]

It's a skin

[rigid compass]

Imma call it skullcrusher

[normal mountain]

It's Bruntspar
But it could have been It's own mech

[rigid compass]

L name

[normal mountain]

Not my point

IT COULD HAVE BEEN THE 3RD MECH

[rigid compass]

Warframe players when u tell them to do anything but fashion frame and being freaky: 🤯

[rigid compass]

I think its more so an issue of necramech content being very limited since its only used in free roams and railjack

I swear if de makes tau be a free roam or just nodes imma crash out

You know what I think could be a nice gamemode would be a helldivers one. Basically all factions have control of planets and we take em out but itd be separate from normal nodes

[smoky gulch]

It was planned as 3rd mech, but time/budget constraints happened

[rigid reef]

True

[rigid compass]

Like invasions and fomorian/ razorback but bigger

[mint delta]

nidus mech skin shoudlve been one to

this is so awesome

[tall echo]

difference being that the one mistake was the og limbo's first attempt at rift jumping iirc

[stark coral]

Baby tenno here
Wtf am I looking at

[mint delta]

An expensive necramech skin.

Necramechs are basically like Optimus prime

[rigid compass]

Really I thought it was said or implied it was just a mistake

[mint delta]

[rigid compass]

Thats gauss moto 😭

[mint delta]

No

That's different

Gauss smol

[tall echo]

limbo has to do complicated math to rift jump
the quest limbo miscalculated and pulled a gaster

[rigid compass]

Nuh

[pearl spindle]

confused, who is Loid referring to here? I thought Lotus but not sure if it would make sense

[tall echo]

lotus

[pearl spindle]

ah it is lotus ok

[tall echo]

she's currently preventing wally from further closing in on the labs

[tall echo]

what

[pearl spindle]

OH thank you, I must have not understood that part or not played the part where that is explained

[tall echo]

it's explained with like one line during lotus eaters

[pearl spindle]

ah okay I only noticed Loid start saying these things since reaching cavia standing level 5 so I was a bit confused

[rose estuary]

What skin is that?

[rare scarab]

huh i didn’t know Corpus characters can live for so long

[celest needle]

-# Darvo's a teen btw

[tall echo]

nidus prime access

[rose estuary]

Oh ok

[hexed oxide]

Has he been smoking since he was born or smth ? Wow

[mint delta]

Karnolyth

[rigid compass]

https://tenor.com/view/hxh-gif-1134129551145375709

[strange turtle]

He’s 100 and something, he’s just a teen by Corpus Board standard

[narrow pendant]

spent all the time in grineer prison huffing pure detonite ampule

coolant sludge from fortuna

[rigid compass]

[narrow pendant]

how do you think does clem raid entire grineer gallions on his own, the tenno is just there to watch

legends say he has a secret stash of temple kuva

[hexed oxide]

o_o didn't think about this at all, but what would be the average lifespan in each faction ?

[pale cedar]

“We Maggots live… not long. We hope more life… work… kill… maybe Queens notice… Maybe… they share… the Old Blood. We are maggots. But eventually even maggots can fly.”

[tall echo]

corpus: well over 100
grineer: 40

[hexed oxide]

40 ? That long ?

[tall echo]

yes

[strange turtle]

Clonerot + primarily military

[stiff fable]

Grineer lifespan: As long as it takes a Tenno to get to them

[stiff fable]

Real talk, he's a Grineer who thinks he's a Tenno, we're just there for moral support

[mint delta]

He thinks that??

[stiff fable]

Short answer: yes
Long answer: okay this is a bit long

When invasions were first introduced there were bugs because Bugframe

One player's squad has a Grineer enemy turn around and start shooting other Grineer

He followed them through the entire mission, helping out, and even went to extraction with them when the mission finished

They wrote the story up on 4chan and it became a huge meme

A Man of Few Words is DE making that story canon

So yeah Clem is a Grineer who thinks he's a Tenno

[celest needle]

Grineer be like "I Have My Whole Life Ahead of Me." No You Don't, The Tenno Is Coming

[clever linden]

We need to make Khal into a Kuva Lich so he lives forever and his missions become more fun

[tall echo]

liches don't live forever
being a lich is constant agony
liches need to die before they can be turned into liches

[clever linden]

Deafult grineer live in agony

[tall echo]

not as much agony

[clever linden]

At least as a lich you have fun powers and respect

[stiff fable]

Just shove an archon shard into Kahl

[tall echo]

also we don't know how they make liches

[stiff fable]

Anti entropic radiation will fix him right up

[clever linden]

May actually work

Worked for Ballas

[stiff fable]

Nothing bad ever happened to something that had an archon shard shoved into it

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6tHWCXh7VxA

Honestly this is just peak sibling behavior

[clever linden]

Pazuul isn’t her sister

He’s a separate consciousness

But Erra is still alive in there

[warm palm]

I think it would be really cool if they canonized/retold dark sector through the form of a comic or smth and change things around for it to make sense. Like the technocyte in DS could be a strain of the original technocyte seen in 1999 modifed by ||Entrati|| and thats the reason characters vaguely turn into warframes when infected

[stiff fable]

If they were going to re-adapt Dark Sector it would be as an in-universe story

Maybe the game that Hollvania Digital Extremes made

[warm palm]

I think thats what war sector was

[stiff fable]

Yep

[humble sierra]

Also there's an movie/novel franchise named darkSector, with one of the posters showing a major character from the game

Plotwise it could be completely different though

I get more spy-genre vibes from it than scifi action

[ripe crest]

Alright so is the crafting station so advanced that I can throw in a blueprint and it basically 3D prints it? Or am I as the operator, just a genius at crafting?

[stiff fable]

The former

It can take basically any material and reshape it into anything a blueprint requires

Heck you get blueprints from waking dreams and the foundry can turn old coins into the sword of one of the Seven

[tall echo]

the credit costs for crafting stuff is just taken by ordis for maintenance and survival essentials btw

[stiff fable]

Which kills Sentients stone dead if you upgrade it enough

[tall echo]

well, it makes it easier to kill them by resetting resistances but yea

[stiff fable]

(lore vs. reality)

[quick dagger]

||Why is wally evil when he accepted his deal is he like sukuna or something ||
Wall

[clever linden]

He reminded me of bill cipher

Or hades from Disneys Hercules

[humble sierra]

Because he very likely caused the adults to go insane just to make the Operator desperate enough to make that deal, only giving them powers so they can eventually be his weapon against the Orokin and tool for whatever plans he might have

[tall echo]

2 examples of faustian bargains

[clever linden]

Exactly the deal is a monkeys paw

[tall echo]

that's different

monkey's paw is your wish comes true but badly

[humble sierra]

Wally's technically more of a Monkey's Paw

As far as drifter is concerned, at least

[fast dew]

He acts like a predator he continually isolated and alienates children from their connections in order to get something out of them. And when he's gonna manipulate an adult, he'd still go for childhood memories, like with Rulsalka and Lyon

[woven coyote]

and albrecht and us, what with starting right with the childhood name

[tall echo]

we're not adults but yea

[restive river]

Wally defenders when Wally has literally decimated universes, killed all our parents, monkey pawed our deal trapping our alt self in a time loop and generally just acts like a predator

It’s fine tho he’s like 2 and totally didn’t know better

[ashen pulsar]

wally defender? those exist?

I’ve seen balls defenders

[restive river]

There will somehow always be those that defend the wretched

[ashen pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1434676373565345862/1440410633865793708/caption.gif

[rare scarab]

Now do the solaris u character live that long?

That would semi explain the time dilation issue

[tall echo]

what issue

[proper barn]

What do you mean?

[twin wigeon]

the what

[humble sierra]

They're referring to how Weiss only used her Time Dilation powers in Volume 2 even though it would have had helped plenty of other times in the war against Cinder and Salem

[twin wigeon]

rwby?

[humble sierra]

Ye

[hexed oxide]

what's the deal with kaya's chest thing ? is that something she made or is it from her transformation ?

[fast dew]

Just. Reactors, its called no clue what else it does

It is removable but

Im not sure if thats just for cosmetics

[lean garden]

its probably the same as nova's back things

[olive hull]

Was it ever mentioned what happened to the original Margulis?

[ashen pulsar]

jade lighted

[rancid horizon]

me and my friend just realized that the infested guns are living organisms

so it makes you think... what is their bullets their shooting from their barrels

[stiff fable]

Acid, mostly

Or poison sometimes

[rancid horizon]

"spores" makes me terrified

[woven coyote]

also barbs

[stiff fable]

Mmm sporelacer

[woven coyote]

if you slow down time in captura you can usually see their projectiles since they are often not hitscan

[rigid compass]

Clem is og khal

Strongest defector of history vs strongest defector of today

[stiff beacon]

in the bassocyst's cass vomit

[humble sierra]

The Seven all unanimously agreed to have Margulis executed (including Ballas, if he hadn't voted for her execution it wouldn't have happened)

[rigid compass]

What for again?

[strange plinth]

iirc apostasy

[humble sierra]

Ultimately because she didn't want the Tenno weaponized, but it seems like the specific reason is because ||she took the blame for the Operator's actions resulting in the Old Peace falling through||

[stiff fable]

[radiant pier]

loser ass

I hate Ballas

[narrow pendant]

bee frame when

[gritty dew]

ASTARION FISH!!!

[narrow pendant]

this has been some of the most fun i had coming up with ways to maximize that

[tall echo]

yes

[worn cypress]

What are your damage settings

[narrow pendant]

wait my game froze lmfao

these are my crit colors if ur after those

wanted a bit less saturation

[fast dew]

It kinda looks like. Hold on

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutilated_quartz

rutilated quartz, it looks like if blue rutilated quartz existed

[narrow pendant]

oo

[daring tusk]

Did we ever see pazuul in perita? Dont remember

[tall echo]

only amar

[narrow pendant]

genuinely wondering if my swarm of projectiles arcing around everywhere would be capable to reduce the framerate of streamers in real time lmao

[tall echo]

doubt it

[fast dew]

I mean, it could, i think

Depends on the settings on the streamer's side

[narrow pendant]

yeah now that i thinkabout it a ragdoll vortex would probably do more

[left parrot]

Do we have more lore on Cyte aside 1999 or only the Quincy lore only

[fast dew]

His actual name was scrubbed from history, we're left with only a batch name. Quincy isn't Cyte, so any real lore that pertains to Cyte himself is. Forever hidden

[left parrot]

Oh so Cyte is different than Quincy?

I mean....

Well I guess... Eternalism shit

[fast dew]

Mhm. Flare is Temple tho

[dark compass]

And I am literally Lavos

https://tenor.com/view/cats-toby-the-cat-nod-yes-yes-yes-hooman-gif-17105827

[fast dew]

Im qorvex

[left parrot]

Ya see that's where I got confused on th lore

So I assumed Mag is Aoi
Arthur is Excal
Quincy is Cyte XDDDD

I totally forgot it's the alternate universe

Guess I'm Cyte now

[dark compass]

It's not alternative universe

[fast dew]

Oh, no its not. The others just die before they get to fully transform

:)

[left parrot]

What is the word?

[dark compass]

They're not originals

They're just injected with the serums

[radiant pier]

I am aromantic