lore-discussion

[clever linden]

Where did it come from

[fast dew]

Its related to air pressure and density or whatever

[strange turtle]

A number of places

[fast dew]

Ground springs

[clever linden]

I didn’t even mention conceptual embodiment

[fast dew]

Wally is conceptual embodiment lol

Or. Seems to be. And if its from him, its from conceptual embodiment

[clever linden]

I don’t feel disproven when the answers are “idk”

[fast dew]

Yeah no its literally from ground springs, it's happened before

[clever linden]

Pray tell

[strange plinth]

the origin of kuva is unknown
but we can rule a couple things out
kuva doesn't come from the void, nor the fingers, as it predates both
[as i've mentioned before and provided proof of](#lore-discussion message)
it interacts with the void, yes, but it couldn't originate there

[clever linden]

Kuva isn’t mentioned before the void incident though

[fast dew]

Except it is

[strange turtle]

The Origin System, the Fingers, the ground in Duviri, the Unum

[fast dew]

How do you think Albrecht used continuity before he entered the void lol

Because he didnt after

[clever linden]

Nah, you just mentioned that Orokin are immortal

And so are jellyfish

They had other ways to live forever before Kuva

[fast dew]

Or. They didn't

[clever linden]

Kuva itself is not actually mentioned

[fast dew]

Because Albrecht directly references continuity

[strange plinth]

.. did you look at the message i linked, which states they were using the body markets. aka continuity.

[strange turtle]

Neither are jellyfish, or anything biological

[fast dew]

And. In order for him to directly reference continuity, you'd need kuva

[clever linden]

Body markets is something we have today

Replacing older organs with new ones

Happens all the time

[fast dew]

"This is the last skin I am in." And. He's had the fear he was wally since he managed to put clothes on by himself after the incident

[strange turtle]

Clearly, they achieved taoist enlightenment, and formed an elixir of immortality within their body

[fast dew]

Ergo he did continuity before it

[strange plinth]

when you have the context of them using the yuvan theatre to "parade around" their next bodies. describing it as a "body market" seems accurate.

[pale cedar]

This is the last skin you are in and I made sure it stayed that way

[strange plinth]

albrecht to roathe, post helminth-injection /s

[strange turtle]

They also just. Were body markets

As it says in the thing you posted, they bartered on them

[fast dew]

Selling your body in all conceivable ways

[clever linden]

He actually just means he ain’t getting no more blue tattoos

[fast dew]

Good lord.

[pale cedar]

Nope

[fast dew]

He actively rejects Kuva.

[dark compass]

Fries

[fast dew]

In the same requiem log.

[dark compass]

I love fries

[clever linden]

I had no idea /s

[pale cedar]

Albrecht was blue until 1999

[fast dew]

In the same breath.

[fast dew]

Me too McDonald's fries are cool but I do really like kfc or hungry jacks

[dark compass]

I ordered kfc

[clever linden]

Ok I’m not interested in fast food

[fast dew]

He rejects kuva and says this is the last body I am in. Meaning. He is referring to continuity.

[strange plinth]

"not a single one ever saw him. Me. And so it is that I will not take the Kuva now. Or ever again. This is the last skin I'm in. Because of this idea: That I cannot be sure. That in all that smoked commotion, in all that panic and fear, in that bending light and blinding dark... was it I who escaped? Or the other?"

[dark compass]

It had a cheeseburger

But it was a kfc cheeseburger

[fast dew]

I didnt know they did cheese burgers

[strange turtle]

Wait wtf kfc cheeseburger

[dark compass]

It's just a cheeseburger with chicken inside

[fast dew]

I know red rooster does tho

[old wharf]

No way, Ballas would never do something like that. He's a victim

Can someone give me hamburger

[strange plinth]

the veiled one is back

[fast dew]

Red rooster is peak

SCRAM

[dark compass]

I think kfc does all the -burgers

They just use their chicken for it

[fast dew]

Poggers. ..

I wish other places had red rooster

[old wharf]

anyone got hamburger?

[fast dew]

Yall are missing out on buying a quarter of a whole chicken

[clever linden]

Cus they used other things that aren’t Kuva to do continuity

I’ve thought it over and no, I’m not changing my position on this. You’re ignoring no mention of Kuva for it still being there despite literally not being mentioned.

[dark compass]

I can just buy a whole chicken

[old wharf]

Fight them and bring me the chicken sandwich

the sandwich of sandwich

[fast dew]

Albrecht quite literally just mentioned kuva in reference to continuity.

[clever linden]

On topic at least somewhat please

[fast dew]

To him rejecting it

[clever linden]

But he didn’t actually say it

The word, isn’t said

[fast dew]

Yeah he did.

"not a single one ever saw him. Me. And so it is that I will not take the Kuva now. Or ever again. This is the last skin I'm in. Because of this idea: That I cannot be sure. That in all that smoked commotion, in all that panic and fear, in that bending light and blinding dark... was it I who escaped? Or the other?"

[strange plinth]

'will not take the kuva now' to 'last skin i'm in' is a pretty clear this is talking about continuity !!! lines

[fast dew]

And. Btw he always had this fear

[clever linden]

This is Albrecht, of course he’d have access to it, he found its source

[fast dew]

No, he didn't

He did it before the incident.

[clever linden]

Ok

[strange turtle]

He found a source, and this is right after he healed

[fast dew]

How do you do continuity with kuva if it comes from an incident that hasn't happened yet

https://tenor.com/view/gato-withrock-gif-27341353

[clever linden]

With other tech

[pale cedar]

Is this day uhh 30 of people forgetting Albrecht is Orokin?

[strange turtle]

He literally couldn’t have done it “before” in that time, nor would he have wanted to

[fast dew]

Except he references kuva

[strange plinth]

continuity can only be done with kuva that's the whole gimmick

[clever linden]

0 cus I already knew he is

[strange turtle]

No other tech

[fast dew]

How hard is it to accept kuva existed before wally

[pale cedar]

If you knew he is why are you doubting Kuva usage?

[strange turtle]

That’s why Orokin had to barter over bodies and sometimes just accept dying

[clever linden]

Well, that and the void, which Kuva is connected to

I mean the requiem mods used to kill Kuva Liches are voidtounge

[strange turtle]

They could make their bodies last really long, but eventually they’d fail

[fast dew]

Yeah voidtongue also affects sisters who aren't related to wally as far as I know

[clever linden]

They are related to the void though

[strange plinth]

kuva interacts with the void but the void is not its source

[fast dew]

Meaning

They're separate

[clever linden]

Yeah cus not all void is kuva

But kuva has void in it

[fast dew]

Voidtongue isn't exclusively a wally thing, clearly

[clever linden]

The first thing he says to us is “Mara Lohk”

Lohk

[fast dew]

Yeah and

[clever linden]

Xata too, I think

[fast dew]

He can use voidtongue but it doesn't mean its his thing

[clever linden]

Who made it then

[fast dew]

He can use the void and the void predates him

[pale cedar]

Who made the language you speak?

[fast dew]

Well the translation actually comes from Albrecht somehow

[clever linden]

I don’t think the English exist in the void

Or maybe they do, idk

[fast dew]

German does lol

Wally's first word was. German

Bengel

Little bengel.

[ashen pulsar]

english, actually

[fast dew]

Not bengal, as in the cat. Bengel.

[ashen pulsar]

“little”

[fast dew]

Oh shush

[pale cedar]

His first sentence was Orokin and German

[ashen pulsar]

anyways, neither of those came from the void, both of those came from albert’s memories

[pale cedar]

Albrecht on a language arc

[ashen pulsar]

it was probably just orokin

[pale cedar]

Voidtounge wouldn’t have been created by Wally just Wally would’ve been the first person actively using it

[ashen pulsar]

perhaps it’s a product of CE

[pale cedar]

Unless the Void suddenly learns how to talk

[ashen pulsar]

Like void energy, the expectation that creatures of the void would speak their own language

[fast dew]

Albrecht is well spoken

All of the entrati are. And then there's otak

[clever linden]

This conversation was what made me think Kuva is Wally’s blood

I asked and nobody said no

[fast dew]

Grey literally says they had kuva before the void

[ashen pulsar]

it existed before he did so no

[pale cedar]

Wally tried copying Albrecht and exposed himself

"Congratulations. If you are hearing this message, you are now the best hope to thwart an existential threat against your species. I do not have time to care who you are or why you stumbled into this unsavory business, but the messages you have decrypted thus far were left intentionally. This was, you are, my failsafe against this old, dead end experiment. The solution is simple, but requires the addition of a signal not found in your reality. Unfortunately, our connection will remain interrupted until you cancel the busy signal. All you need to do is hang it up."

[fast dew]

your species

As if we aint the same one lol

-# to be clear a lot of other orokin would make that distinction, Albrecht isnt one of those

[clever linden]

How? Where did they get it from? Too little is known to actually say

[fast dew]

You just said that noone said no and

Someone said no

[ashen pulsar]

enough is known to say that we had it before he existed

[clever linden]

Way after the fact

[fast dew]

Im just pointing out that you didn't read the messages

[fast dew]

You asked and they answered within. Lemme count

2 messages

You're talking to a group of people who's day is made of reading things thoroughly

[clever linden]

It probably came from the void into the real world

That’s probably how Albrecht found it, traced it back to the source

[fast dew]

Which. Didn't exist.

Until he entered the void

[ashen pulsar]

wally didn’t exist until he entered the void

[clever linden]

“It’s a replica”

“It’s just a copy”

Yep clearly Kuva and Wally have nothing to do with each other

[dark compass]

Maybe with the so called blood queen we'll learn more about Kuva

[pale cedar]

When Albrecht says now or ever again it’s him confirming Kuva predates Wally

[fast dew]

Yeah those statements are correct and the same statements

[clever linden]

I thought he just defined him

Albrecht actually created him?

[fast dew]

Mhm via conceptual embodiment.

Roathe just drilled this into our head multiple times

[clever linden]

It’s a replica copy of Wally’s finger which isn’t the source of Kuva, they just happened to be getting it from a cloned copy of his finger??

[fast dew]

So did sythel, and the operator report

[fast dew]

Okay but that machine isnt using the finger as a source of kuva

We know what its doing and its not that

[clever linden]

My question was “are they using this device to get kuva from Wally’s finger?”

The answer was “it’s a replica copy”

The answer was not “No you ***********!!!!”

[fast dew]

And. Telling you its a copy confirms its using it how?

[fast dew]

The Worm Queen's early presence aboard the Zariman has aided her troops' defenses. Through Reliquary tampering, The Worm Queen has bestowed these troopers with a miniature Kuva Trokar to disrupt transference.

Thats what the machine is doing

[ashen pulsar]

you asked two questions, they answered one of them, you took that as the answer for both

[clever linden]

No, that’s definitely the little pikes they throw at us that stop transference

I’ve played these maps excessively so I know what that is

[fast dew]

Yeah

Full of kuva. Which is dispensed from the machine.

[clever linden]

They throw a stick “kuva trokar” which crates that red circle that breaks transference

That’s what that is

[fast dew]

... yes.

[clever linden]

Not the kuva extraction machine pointed at the finger

[fast dew]

The machine gives that trokar kuva.

Because. How else do they get it?

[clever linden]

It looks like there’s just Kuva in there

Not machine spikes

[dark compass]

It directly mentions tampering with the reliquary drive, and that being the cause of them having functional spears

Finger is the reliquary drive

[clever linden]

Ah, so the Grineer are “tampering” by extracting Kuva out of the finger, they built this machine to do that

Which is exactly what I’ve thought all along

[fast dew]

..no

They're tampering with the finger to disrupt transference.

[clever linden]

What’s the red stuff???

What’s the red stuff in the grineer machine?

[fast dew]

Kuva tampers with transference. Which coincidentally comes from (shocker) wally!

[clever linden]

Odd how I can stand next to it and not be disrupted

[fast dew]

Is it in the air

No? Then there's your answer

And it needs to be concentrated

As we see in the war within.

[dark compass]

They're tampering with the void using Kuva. Just like we had to deal with it in The War Within

[clever linden]

Kuva has the void in it though

[fast dew]

Amped with void

[clever linden]

It’s the sticks they use as I said. Not the Kuva harvester

[fast dew]

Kuva just tampers with transference.

[dark compass]

There's a direct line about them tampering with the drive, not with us

[clever linden]

This thing disrupts transference

[fast dew]

We see it in the war within. I am literally playing through it right now.

[dark compass]

Ok you know what I'm tired of this

[clever linden]

From this

[dark compass]

I'll go watch fallout

[fast dew]

Im not gonna deal with this bullshit

Gonna go talk to people who actually listen

[clever linden]

I knew you were mad at me

I’m not, just confused

[fast dew]

Yeah because you refuse to listen. You're gonna infuriate people.

[clever linden]

And to top it all off,

[strange turtle]

The Worm Queen's early presence aboard the Zariman has aided her troops' defenses. Through Reliquary tampering, The Worm Queen has bestowed these troopers with a miniature Kuva Trokar to disrupt transference.

[clever linden]

“Zariman kuva spider”

NOT “kuva trokar”

[dark compass]

Can you read

[strange turtle]

They have to tamper with the Reliquary for it to work

[dark compass]

Through tampering she gave them trokars

Not that trokars are tampering

[clever linden]

This is a Kuva Trokar, which stops transference

[dark compass]

This is-

Okay I'm actually just sad now

[clever linden]

This is a Kuva spider, which extracts Kuva from the damn finger as I’ve said from the start

[pale cedar]

And that weapon only works due to the spider one can’t work without the other

[strange turtle]

If it was just the Kuva they wouldn’t need to be tampering with the Reliquary for it, they already had it

[clever linden]

Where do they say that?

[dark compass]

Extracting Kuva from my ass

[pale cedar]

The whole quote is saying that

[fast dew]

The sceptre can. Overload our transference stream

With. kuva

Its probably built on the same tech

[clever linden]

This quote? “> > The Worm Queen's early presence aboard the Zariman has aided her troops' defenses. Through Reliquary tampering, The Worm Queen has bestowed these troopers with a miniature Kuva Trokar to disrupt transference.”

About this thing?

Kuva Trokar ^

Kuva Spider ⬇️

[pale cedar]

The spider is the tampering that allows the weapon to function

[clever linden]

Ok that doesn’t deny that it’s taking Kuva from the finger to do so

Also i really need a new Kuva Tennogen skin to come out

I’ve bought all of them so far as you can guess

The Yareli one looks great but the Jade one blows my mind

[mint delta]

lowk tuff

[twin wigeon]

So the Kuva Spider is only there to amp the kuva stored inside the spider with void energy, giving it more power to disrupt transference. The Kuva Spider kuva is then given to the Trokarians Trokars to then launch at us and disperse kuva amped with void energy at us to force us into our kiddos

its not an extraction machine designed to suck kuva out of the finger bc the spider isnt even directly connected to the finger like it doesnt pierce the finger at all

so Kuva cant be from the finger itself and we do know that the fingers radiate void energy so the Kuva spider is probably just collecting or condensing the energy to infuse with the kuva inside the spider

also Kuva predates the manifestation or creation of Wally since Kuva is used in continuity which has been happening for ages within the orokin. Wally was created fairly recently due to albrechts travel into the void, or yk recent in comparison to the age of kuva consumption.

[fast dew]

It doesnt even pierce the finger?? Wow what a misleading screenie lol

[twin wigeon]

It doesnt right?

[fast dew]

Or. Im just blind

[fast dew]

Yeah looking at it, its pretty far from the finger

[twin wigeon]

don't make me go into void arma just to capture this

[fast dew]

Go into void arma to capture this

[twin wigeon]

i hate it grinding it for platttt

fine.......... ill be back

[fast dew]

Hurry up you wanna buy that mesa heirloom don't you

[twin wigeon]

feck you're right

OMW CAVVIEEE

(Cavie = cavelero)

[pale cedar]

It's not

[fast dew]

Id do a run but. Im still being bullied by the golden maw

[twin wigeon]

lol

[fast dew]

Yes I suck

[pale cedar]

Trapped in War Within
How are you ever gonna bite the pages at this point?

[twin wigeon]

i remember doing that quest like 8 years ago

[fast dew]

Replaying quests 💔

[pale cedar]

I've replayed New War 3 times

[twin wigeon]

the waypoint is where the tip of the spider is

[pale cedar]

My first playthrough of New War when it released was on a damaged controller

[twin wigeon]

@fast dew hows this

[pale cedar]

So is the finger straight ahead compared to this?

[fast dew]

Peak

[twin wigeon]

yeah i wanted to show the farness of the actual spider to the finger

[fast dew]

So uh.

Yeah finger not connected to kuva

[twin wigeon]

ofc im not a captura collector so

[pale cedar]

If anything it's just using the finger as a battery to charge the Kuva in the device

[twin wigeon]

it also has an exposed bulb of kuva at the tip so maybe kuva is being brought to the bulb for exposure

[fast dew]

Oh yeah mildly changed Albrecht shrine
-# can you see which glyph i changed

Shit thats. the old one

[pale cedar]

Yeah, I was thinking it's the same

Where is the Loid kissing bit

[fast dew]

Haven't kept him there

But ill record it when i finally get past it

[covert falcon]

Hello I am struggling to understand a facet of Temple lore.

It is my understanding that there was no Temple before Flare, just a strain that Ballas developed but never manifested.

Albrecht stole/copied this strain and made Flare into a protoframe with it in 1999.

However I am reading that this is what caused the Temple warframe to exist later and I'm not quite sure how.

[pale cedar]

The Temple you use in modern day is Flare

[fast dew]

Mhm

You're using Flare

Just... fully transformed

[covert falcon]

Oh, so just like...his techrot infection took over completely

Rough

[fast dew]

*their, flare uses they/them, and yeah

Its..specifically the helminth strain over techrot but ye

[covert falcon]

That doesn't bode well for my girlfriend Aoi

[fast dew]

Oh, no the others just all die

:)

[covert falcon]

???

[pale cedar]

Techrot didn’t

Helminth was only ever slowed and leaving the loop all Protos will eventually turn

[covert falcon]

I saved her tho she can't die thats illegal

[fast dew]

Outside kaya and flare, the other protoframes will die in the 18 radiation wars

[pale cedar]

Kaya still might with how she travels back and fourth

[covert falcon]

What happens to Kaya?

And what is so special about Flare he makes it to the end?

[fast dew]

they make it out.

[covert falcon]

ugh yeah sorry

[fast dew]

Flare goes and leaves earth

Kaya leaves 1999

[covert falcon]

And the others choose to stay and fight?

[fast dew]

The others don't really have a choice

[covert falcon]

Why does Flare?

[pale cedar]

Flare asked Kaya how to leave

[fast dew]

Flare goes on a specific comet that comes around every 10 thousand years or so, or however long its been from 1999 to the night of the naga drums

[covert falcon]

So the others are doomed to die simply because they never asked how to leave?

[fast dew]

They can't exactly. Leave. Flare could only because. Comet, the rest don't have that

[covert falcon]

I don't quite follow why he can use the comet then

and the others cant

[pale cedar]

Because the comet is a rare event

[covert falcon]

And only one frame can use it at a time?

[radiant pier]

they hopped on different comets would be the funniest thing ever

[pale cedar]

Only one proto thought about hopping on it it at the time

[covert falcon]

I just feel like the average comet is big enough to hold more than one person

So plot based stupidity on the part of some people then

Did he not tell anyone he was doing it?

ugh

they

I'll get it, I promise

[pale cedar]

As much as a comet may be able to hold multiple people

Leaving wasn’t on their agenda

It’s only a thing Flare and Kaya have had an interest in doing

[covert falcon]

Hm. Okay, thanks!

[topaz pawn]

the real question is how flare got to space to hitch that ride

[pale cedar]

Kaya portal probably

[dark compass]

Jump good

[covert falcon]

their kneecaps detach and turn into rocket boots

thats why they're so absurdly big

[old wharf]

Do we know how Ballas raised to power and took over the crusty crab?

Or did DE never explained that?

[dark compass]

He had an army of Sentients

That killed anyone who resisted

And who didn't got "be not afraid"d

[old wharf]

So is the Crusty crab still opened?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1349142399645122643/1431898238113546322/attachment.gif

[loud oriole]

presumably with Pazuul/Archon’d Erra taking over the throne

[dark compass]

Only some of it

[old wharf]

SOME??

[dark compass]

Places not yet freed or destroyed

Yes

Unfortunately the secret formula died with me

[old wharf]

See, this is why everyone hates Ballas

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721821486599503937/1309797609627582535/Horse.gif

honse

[loud oriole]

-# i love this gif

[midnight ice]

dagath gameplay

[fast dew]

Idtech moment

[dark compass]

I hired this horse to only have a front facing texture at you

[rigid compass]

The kinda headless horsewoman

[midnight ice]

i hired this warframe to stare at you

[rigid compass]

I hired this Sentinel to stare at u

[dark compass]

I converted this kuva lich to stare at you

[pale cedar]

I hired Thomas to stare at you

@fast dew getem

[fast dew]

Kay

[rigid compass]

I hired you 💀

https://tenor.com/view/job-job-application-jobless-gif-2757097081210871087

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-withrock-gif-27341353

[midnight ice]

i converted this boyband to stare at you

[north skiff]

Uh I was just made aware that the orkin may be survivors of a nuclear apocalypse and I come seeking calcification

The hell?

[dark compass]

radiation wars

nukes went off, society eventually rebuilt itself under orokin rule

it might or might not have been a conspiracy by a conglomerate named Oro to take over the world back then

[stiff fable]

Remember you don't have to give the Orokin credit for anything

[dark compass]

Yes but the game alludes to it

[radiant pier]

Nukeee

[pale cedar]

Can I not give the Orokin credit for sending me into space?

[radiant pier]

Captain give me your zephyr build

[dark compass]

i dont really have one, also

i dismantled her build for archon shards

[dark compass]

im all ears

[radiant pier]

explain to me....

Nova, as you did Harrow

[dark compass]

i never really played nova

and she has tons of super complex interactions

sorry, blind spot here

[radiant pier]

oh dang okay fairs

Grendel?

[dark compass]

well

i think i have something, yeah

not fuly realized though

[stiff fable]

Nova's very easy tbh

Get the augment for her 1 that does heat damage and lets you recast it
Put Nourish over her 2
Archon shards can be "pocket arcane hot shot", the blast ones for survivability, or just power strength

Cast 2 then spam 1 congrats you're killing everything in front of you

[celest needle]

Conclave

[stiff fable]

It's stupidly powerful

[celest needle]

That requires obtaining base Grendel

https://tenor.com/view/cat-holding-head-cat-sad-cat-rahh-wahhhh-gif-11843610789762008433

[stiff fable]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-gif-482679129693869417

It's not a hard farm, just ask some friends/clanmates/randoms if they want to squad to split the price

I've literally done it three times

[celest needle]

What if your friendless and discordless

[stiff fable]

I'd ask how you're posting here

[celest needle]

Wizardry

[stiff fable]

https://tenor.com/view/jamie-outlander-cheer-gif-15211301664144066131

[ionic moss]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-gif-22017787

Transferences into chat Howdy Tennos!

[clever linden]

Yeah it doesn’t look like it could extract Kuva at all anyways /s

[clever linden]

It has legs. It moved

[clever linden]

Huh?

[clever linden]

It has legs. It walked

[clever linden]

What? So now Kuva has void in it like I’ve been saying all along?

[mint delta]

Good design

[clever linden]

I like the way it looks

[dark compass]

This keeps going?

[clever linden]

They wanted to continue

[pale cedar]

No, the device has Kuva in it and Kuva needs the Void to use as a battery to function like I said from the start

[mint delta]

Same

[pale cedar]

I said early in the convo Kuva just uses the Void

[clever linden]

Where is information about the Kuva spider needing void as power come from anyways

[pale cedar]

3. What is 'kuva'?

A. Fluid with Void-derived capacity to conduct consciousness (correct)

B. The liquid remnants of departed Orokin saints

[clever linden]

Did ai write this?

I always thought A. was the case

[pale cedar]

No, it’s from a Zariman tablet

[clever linden]

I thought B. was Aya?

[pale cedar]

Why would I spread AI here?

It’s literally against the rules

[clever linden]

Just wondering

[pale cedar]

What B is doesn’t matter

A is the correct answer

[twin wigeon]

erm scuttled is the right verb

scuttle scuttle

[ionic moss]

There is Red Kuva and Blue Kuva

[pale cedar]

We don’t actually know if Bluva is real

[ionic moss]

It is real

[pale cedar]

It was written in a Halloween story

Many Halloween stories are just stories

We were never told if it was fiction or non fiction

[ionic moss]

Whats a story without a beginning?

[tall echo]

a short story

[ionic moss]

https://tenor.com/view/once-upon-a-time-book-gif-9618262

[pale cedar]

A story with just an ending

[ionic moss]

Do you know about Kuria

[twin wigeon]

another cephalon

[pale cedar]

Yes

I know about the poem

[twin wigeon]

nihil needs to be stopped

[pale cedar]

Nihil is stopped every day by Scrap

[tall echo]

Also what does that even mean

[ionic moss]

It means nothing, and everything!

[tall echo]

Indeed

[tall echo]

Minus the latter part

[ionic moss]

My precepts dictate that according to Eternalism, both realities can be true and false.

[twin wigeon]

both realities exist and are just as real as our own

[tall echo]

and yet we can't access alternate realities, making them irrelevant

[twin wigeon]

not without difficulty at least

[tall echo]

no, completely inaccessible

[twin wigeon]

duviri is in an alternate reality is it not

[tall echo]

no

it's a place in the void

the void is the space between realities

[twin wigeon]

created by a person that is us but in a different reality

[tall echo]

drifter never left the void, they're not from or in a different reality

[twin wigeon]

ooh wait that is true

god roathe would hate me

for many reasons

[strange turtle]

There’s also Temple Kuva

[clever linden]

Roathe is such a mood

Eternalism is important but it’s become an excuse for everything

[pale cedar]

It’s not important we can’t even acess it 9/10

[clever linden]

“What’s in this sludge and why do the queens think they can make kuva from it?”

[twin wigeon]

theres also tower kuva

or wtvr the cetusians be consuming

cetusians

that feels weird

[stiff fable]

Ostron

[tall echo]

that is temple kuva and the ostron don't consume it

[twin wigeon]

I mean they eat its flesh

Or I at least I presume so with all that meat carving

[strange turtle]

They do

But it doesn’t have kuva inside

otherwise the Sentients’d be sending mimics to infiltrate the market and buy some

[tall echo]

well, they didn't know it had restoring properties

[stray flare]

Hmmm...

I just realised how underapreciated Orbiter is. I mean, as a scifi spaceship.

We do know it basically stores everything we have, including altednate landing craft, archwings, necramechs and so on. Also, a resource gathering drones.

It also can tend to the railjack. If we set railjack as a "frigate", and consider implied orbiter size...

I propose our orbiter is in fact a class of Carrier-Tender Cruisers.

And since we do not know of external weapons, but we do know of the stealth capabilities, it is

A Stealth Carrier-Tender cruiser, and possibly, depending on the actual size, a smaller capital ship.

Sorry, I just wanted to share my thoughs on what kind of craft orbiter is. We do know the rough shape of it, and seen parts of it in drifter camp, but full size seem to not be stated. I just also wanted to share this funny realosation that in any "spaceship v spaceship naval" game Orbiter would be one of the most annoying buggers to fight.

[loud oriole]

this is the full orbiter with the landing craft in the concept image

[twin wigeon]

Wow didnt know Warframe had timelord technology

[stray flare]

I know. I also know that using listet as a scale( if memory serves me right it was around 5 meters wothout the tails), ot would make orbiter around 88 meters long. Granted I used a low ball estimate as the body of the listet may be up to 7 meters long if memory serves me right.

That would place it at half of real life naval cruiser lenght( however considering it is way wider, I recon volume would put it at said scale)

[tall echo]

p sure we don't have official measurements for like, anything

[tall echo]

also the orbiter doesn't store other landing crafts aside from the one we have equipped

[stray flare]

Huh, really? If that cannon then it is a bit stupid, as both the orbiter seem to have space for it, and I cannot think of where else we were to store them when not in use...

[tall echo]

actually in hindsight I think it might

[loud oriole]

if anthing id say the orbiter in its full kit&kaboodle is the same size, if not larger (if we count the engines on the rear), as the Railjack, either our own crafted one or the Tempestarii

-# it would be cool to actually see the full unobstructed orbiter in its full glory though, pls DE

[tall echo]

indeed

[tall echo]

eh I'd say it's a bit smaller, we do get to roughly compare them by looking through the skylight when in space

[loud oriole]

fair point

it also feels like there should be more rooms in the orbiter than what we have available

[stray flare]

That means, every tenno has a private capital ship...

By Eve online standard it would be destroyer( again, since it is purely a carrier-tender, and freighter does not suit orbiter, I am upclassing it to cruiser), and we all get one each.

Also, considering the resorce drones range( aka general drone range messured in AU instead of emters), innate camo, and in general characteristics, Orbiter would be op im Eve...

[loud oriole]

i mean if you were the Orokins hitman with access to pretty powerful biotech “mechs” you’d probably get a decently sized ship

-# tho it is kinda funny to think that the orokin handed very unstable and troubled kids the keys to their own large spacecraft
-# (yes im aware Ordis does all the flying and routing, but still)

[stray flare]

My point exactly is about how funny it is

It is( almost) as if every mariene got their personal Uss Wisconsin battleship!

[stiff fable]

If every crayon-eater could wreck an entire regiment they'd be worth it too

[normal mountain]

I'd say the Tenno are closer to something like Black Ops soldiers

Especially since there are apparently people out there who don't believe they exist

come to think of it, that's something DE has yet to play with...

[tall echo]

(outside of mag prime's codex entry)

[normal mountain]

That's what I mean, yes

[loud oriole]

very true, DE give us another deep mind dive but its a spec ops mission prior to the old peace

[radiant pier]

magical black ops soldiers that keep coming back from death

[loud oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/the-door-barney-gumble-the-simpsons-gif-12229248

[covert falcon]

I have a lore question

How come some of the warframes get pants but others are ass out

[strange plinth]

designed like that

[covert falcon]

So you're telling me that the orokin were looking at their strains and were like

"put this one in there with they ass out"

[strange plinth]

i mean
almost everything they made has gold in it for fashion purposes
so yeah

[covert falcon]

Hm.

Follie makes a little more sense now.

The idea that some Orokin was out there designing these warframes the whole time like

[strange plinth]

ballas was the main guy designing them
but yeah, its either a conscious choice for vanity or just adapting the original body

[covert falcon]

Frost must've just really liked pants as a human

I get it. Cold out there.

[tall echo]

frames do not have clothes. anything that looks like clothes is still just flesh

[covert falcon]

Technically yeah but the illusion of pants is, frankly, still pants in a functional sense

Its like Bayonetta technically not wearing clothes

It isn't super meaningful as far as distinctions go

[tall echo]

no

[covert falcon]

Solid argument

So like followup question then

Dagath

Is it explicitly discussed like..WHAT they used Dagath for after turning them into a frame?

I know they took them to parties but was the full design of Dagath THEIRS from the ground up

I do recall lore saying the face was a copy of the original human

[strange plinth]

dagath was their Dax plaything
the couple that she was in service to, i mean
post-framing, she. stood around. no longer taboo, so the orokin couple no longer cared
then the laser to the skull, dagath survives and butchers them, she becomes a naberus legend, etc

[covert falcon]

Okay, so no funny stuff after they became a frame then

That was ultimately what I was getting at

Just trying to feel out how far this vanity thing goes for them in regards to the frames and their designs

[tall echo]

right

vanity

[topaz pawn]

to add iirc a big reason they lasered her face off is because she wouldn't smile anymore and they found the blank, emotionless stare harrowing

[covert falcon]

I think it was the opposite?

That she always smiled and they hated it

[topaz pawn]

oh wait yeah

[covert falcon]

hehe Harrow..ing...

[strange plinth]

where's that glyph with her face
she looks more smug than anything

[covert falcon]

this thing?

[radiant pier]

what the heck

[strange plinth]

ah that's it

[covert falcon]

Apparently t here are faces etched int othe walls of dagaths hollow and the image I shared is what she looks like with that face

[topaz pawn]

yeah her face is just in her room

[covert falcon]

Sick pompadour, dagath

[tall echo]

I was in my dojo rn so why not send a screenshot of the wall faces

[topaz pawn]

I mean. to be fair. I wouldn't want a face like that around constantly

[covert falcon]

The real face reveal tho?

[topaz pawn]

is that a maid dress

[covert falcon]

Its Dagath recolored and big R standing behind her lol

[tall echo]

little roach

nothing big about him except his ego

[covert falcon]

Completely unrelated but are all the romance options as uuuuh....horny? as Aoi?

It seems like every other line is wanting to bone. I'm not complaining, just curious lol

[tall echo]

she's the worst of the hex

[ocean geyser]

So uhm
That one corpus reactor tileset literally has crewmen get sacrificed to the reactor
WHY

[tall echo]

eh?

what

[ocean geyser]

The one that shows up in volatile missions in RJ

With the 4 consoles around it

There are 4 small elevator things on each of its corners

[tall echo]

I don't think there's any sacrificing going on there

[ocean geyser]

Well i watched a crewman get raised up in the lil tube and get vaporized by the reactor instantly

Several times

Like they’re getting fed to it atp

[covert falcon]

This may seem silly but a conversation in general just opened my eyes that Follie's name isn't just a funny way of saying Folly

Its likely a portmanteau of Folly and Folie

[tall echo]

it's french

[covert falcon]

Right, thats the Folie part

But her name being Follie now seems pretty heavily referential to the word "Folly" as well, given what it means and her aesthetic

Actually I wonder if the word Folly in english stems from Follie in french

I have to go look that up too now

Yeah, it is. Interesting how Folly is so dramatically different in connotation to Folie now

[humble sierra]

It's pronounced like Folly (Fahl-ee), not the french way

[covert falcon]

Yeah, thats why I said what I did lol

[nimble coral]

Thoughts on the idea of a quest where we find Ordan Karris' body and reforge it into a new body for Ordis?

[fast dew]

probably destroyed.

Its been glassed, and. Nihil probably didn't keep it

[nimble coral]

Well, some remnant of the Beast of Bones, at least?

[fast dew]

Thats the same body 😭

[nimble coral]

I know

[fast dew]

Ordan is. Dead. And ordis seemingly doesn't want to be him again

[dark compass]

We find his bone spikes as mediocre influence slop dual daggers

[fast dew]

Close enough

[nimble coral]

I was thinking we find his bone spikes and use them to craft a new body for Ordis that we can equip like a companion.

[dark compass]

They'll deal puncture damage and have a gimmick of restoring hp on finishers

[fast dew]

Ehh. Use the ordis skin

[strange plinth]

-# i just wish the ordis skin had voicelines

[fast dew]

I don't understand the fanbase's fixation on Ordan

Is. It the same thing as Umbra?

[dark compass]

They want a based gigachad bounty hunter to coddle them

Save me Ordan Karris

[fast dew]

Xata..

[dark compass]

Ordan Karris save me

[fast dew]

I just. Never understood it

[nimble coral]

I mean that is one of my like 2 or 3 gay fantasies (the rest of my fantasies being straight), but this has nothing to do with that, I swear

[fast dew]

Fair fair

Me n umbra lowkey but yk

[dark compass]

I would like a bigger role for Ordis, but not sure if Ordan is good for it

A flashback to him? Yeah

[fast dew]

Id just want ordis lol

[dark compass]

Would be cool to have a proper model for Ordan

That's about the extent of my interest

[fast dew]

Id like an bluebrecht flashback

[dark compass]

Id like an bluebrecht flashback

He can drop the disguise now

[fast dew]

Nah. I think its important to keep him the way he is in that regard. Its a design choice to separate him from the orokin

[dark compass]

Fair enough

But he will take off his hat

To reveal all that hair

[high bay]

Given that I don’t think Hildryn is gonna get anything in terms of new lore for a very long time, I need help theory crafting headcanons for her. ||Proto frame hc’s welcome as well||

[blissful merlin]

Ooooh wait, Speaking of Hildryn, in the prime trailer when Ballas talks about her…
“So hear me well, Hunhow. When you despoil the Reservoir, spare only her.”
Was ballas specifically requesting Hunhow to stay away from Hildryns operator or Hildryn herself. Like was she some type of guardian frame over the reservoir or something?

[dark compass]

He has a thing for domineering women

He made Khora to commemorate Margulis

[fast dew]

Hildryn, she was his bodyguard

[blissful merlin]

So was Hildryn like a guardian of the Reservoir? Or was ballas just tellling hunhow to spare the specific operator of her?

[dark compass]

Reservoir alludes to the operator I think

[strange plinth]

iirc the hildryn in the trailer is on lua
so she was prolly guarding the reservoir

[dark compass]

She was on Orb Vallis

[strange plinth]

mm, indeed

either way, there'd be no way for hunhow to know which operator was controlling which frame

[blissful merlin]

Yea just was curious cuz of how he worded it

[dark compass]

Either he desperately wanted her to stay active

Or someone important was in there

[proper barn]

2nd thing thing.

[proper barn]

She was Ballas like bodyguard.

So like ShRug.

[old wharf]

what does larping mean?

Please, I don't understand what the kids are saying anymore

My friend explained it to me, don't understand it, I tried looking it up, still don't understand it.

I'm losing my mind, everyone keeps saying it.

My sister says it too

[radiant pier]

larping's literal term is "live action role playing"

but uh slang term just means poser basically

[forest sluice]

Can anyone please give me resources on where to get to know about the FULL LORE of warframe from scratch till the latest update in 2026! I just wanna catch up and rephrase the known contents in details!

[celest needle]

( Live-Action Role-Playing) in slang refers to someone pretending to be something they are not, often acting out a fake persona, expertise, or lifestyle to fit in, gain clout, or deceive others.

[strange plinth]

https://www.orokinarchives.com/ has most stuff pre-techrot encore
some of it will be outdated due to Old Peace stuff

[forest sluice]

Thanks! And are there any other videos, forums, posts and stuff that I can binge to get more latest informations 🥹

[strange plinth]

not that i can 100% recommend, unfortunately
loretubers are, for the most part, unreliable
this chat's prolly the best thing for questions on the latest stuff

[forest sluice]

Ahh I see! Thanks anyways 😮‍💨❤️

[cunning ore]

I still remember that how they shorten all the clues by "Ballas made this, made that"

[worn cypress]

Why is the protagonist the only awaken teno ?

[strange plinth]

they probably aren't. just the first to be woken up
if we had to be taken from the reservoir for safety reasons, its likely that the rest were also woken up and taken from the reservoir for the same reason, shortly after us
otherwise there's rell, who never went into the Long Sleep anyway, and maybe voruna's operator, who woke themself up during voruna's leverian

[pale cedar]

What makes you say that

We know for a fact other Tenno are doing other stuff and that Tenno helped in the Whispers clan event

[worn cypress]

Isn't it weird that we saw no one of them ?

[pale cedar]

It’s not weird

[worn cypress]

What event 🙂

[worn cypress]

Why

[strange plinth]

other players are other tenno

[pale cedar]

Gargoyles cry

[worn cypress]

In lore is there tens or hundreds of tenos ?

[pale cedar]

We haven’t got a number

[strange plinth]

somewhere between a few hundred and a few thousand iirc
depending on if you go by roathe's chats or the zariman arg redacted number spacing

[worn cypress]

But I mean why are main things in the story are about our teno ? Like killing balls , throwed in the void before , the dark refractory...

[stiff fable]

Because.

[pale cedar]

Never heard of a main character of a story?

[strange plinth]

protagonist does plot things
kinda how the story works
the only "special" thing about the protag vs other tenno is that the protag made the deal

[worn cypress]

Is it because he is the one that made the deal ?

[worn cypress]

-# 🗿 asked about why is he the main

[spare brook]

How bad would it be if the Orokin made a Warframe exoskeleton bio-organic armor? But in order to use it the suit drains your life expectancy. It would eat away away the energy your mitochondria produces faster than they can make, causing you to age rapidly in exchange for powering it up.

[pale cedar]

Story’s never tell you why a person is a main character

[strange plinth]

because of how the warframes are made and powered already, i'm not sure that would work
they're powered by void, there'd be no need to feed off of the 'host' body

[stiff fable]

that's just a Warframe when you're not a Tenno

[worn cypress]

What's about voruna op ?

Isn't she sentient about herself

[stiff fable]

Old Peace has someone nearly kill themself controlling a Warframe

[mint delta]

Aren't most non primes like that?

[strange turtle]

no

[mint delta]

Like bio-organic exoskeleton

[worn cypress]

And about the old peace did the teno alone attacked or all the tenos ?

[strange turtle]

Oh no yeah all the Frames are that, including Primes

[strange plinth]

at the very end of voruna's leverian, voruna pulls her operator from the pod they were in, and walks towards a ship
similar imagery to second dream, carrying the operator away from a pod and to a ship
safe assumption that that operator woke up in a similar manner

[mint delta]

Well internally ofc but I'm talking about the outer shell

Stuff like nidus and whatnot they're very non metallic from the outside

Maybe half nanites half bio materials

[worn cypress]

Where did this showed up ?

[stiff fable]

like I said that's already just a Warframe

[strange turtle]

Nah the outside is too

Infestation can make like, a mix of organic stuff and other materials, like metal

[mint delta]

Pmuch

[strange turtle]

The Orokin could also just do that as well, you can see it with the Prime fish and Old Peace Kaithes

[strange plinth]

'skin blossomed into sword-steel' or whatever ballas was talking about

[mint delta]

Yea

[spare brook]

It's more techno-organic than bio-organic. Since techno-organic implies a fusion of technological and biological features or systems while bio-organic uses living, natural materials grown into functional forms.

[mint delta]

Just skin , nanites, metals like tellurium and whatnot , and a shi ton of gadgets inside for us to cast abilities with said frames

[flat urchin]

At the end of this quest we were given 3 choices right? Does it affect the story in anyway?

[spare brook]

No.

[stiff fable]

nope!

[mint delta]

That's why I said nanites & bio organic which together u would name them techno organic

[stiff fable]

just different cool lines

[flat urchin]

Then it didn’t matter if i destroyed it the vial? I consumed mine and i got a cutscene

[worn cypress]

.

[pale cedar]

All 3 give a cutscene

[stiff fable]

you get a cutscene no matter what

[mint delta]

Many? It's a war bucko

Send all tenno to the battlefield

Also plenty of tenno were captured too and probably killed somehow , as mentioned whenever a commandeered prime drops

[stiff fable]

I poured it out and something said I owed it

[flat urchin]

What? You owned the vial or the staff?

[strange plinth]

it. isn't even nanites? or anything like that
its just helminth that transforms the body using whatever materials it has

[worn cypress]

I mean at the moment of tenno attacking with Uriel @mint delta

[strange plinth]

that was just the one

[mint delta]

Uriel its singular

[mint delta]

And probably later on id expect some tenno defending ballas

[strange plinth]

if they were assigned to

[stiff fable]

I still got everything yes

[mint delta]

Obviously

[pale cedar]

Hildryn

[flat urchin]

Alright so everyone receives the same thing at the end of the quest i thought it would differ

[stiff fable]

nope

[strange plinth]

its just the dialogue that's different
the story will continue the exact same regardless

[mint delta]

I drank it I think , I was expecting to get a buff or sum like when I was a baby tenno

[worn cypress]

Id there theories on what the next story quest be about ?

[celest needle]

TAU BABY!!!!!

[stiff fable]

Tau

[strange plinth]

garuda obv /s

[mint delta]

Narmer expansion and then tau

[stiff fable]

looking for Albrecht

[worn cypress]

But what about tau

[proper barn]

Rebuilding the solar rail

[celest needle]

Going to Tau

[worn cypress]

Going to it ?

[proper barn]

And then going to tau.

[mint delta]

Teaser for the next update

[strange plinth]

"Tau is in sight."

[stiff fable]

he's apparently there

[mint delta]

This guy gets it

[worn cypress]

Soooooo did start the game at the perfect time ? I started 2-3 weeks ago

[celest needle]

Where'd you find this at?

[mint delta]

No Albrecht hasn't reached it

[proper barn]

Anytime is the perfect time.

[mint delta]

Warframe Reddit , it's a leak

[strange plinth]

its a leak, some console store idr which

[celest needle]

okay I think we gotta kill him

[mint delta]

No consoles leaked the epherma

[mint delta]

Nouuuu

[stiff fable]

Lotus puts you in the refractory to find him

[proper barn]

Mods put them in the wind tunnel.

[mint delta]

? Psure we're regaining memories not finding Albrecht

[mint delta]

I literally agreed w u

[celest needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034276993950302331/1494332490691641374/Screenshot2026-04-16064207-ezgif.com-webp-to-gif-converter.gif

[stiff fable]

go talk to Lotus in the labs

[proper barn]

Put them into the wind tunnel to prove they aren't as aerodynamic as the lobster.

[proper barn]

It's more than 1 thing.

[stiff fable]

she explains that she needed your memories to get Tau's coordinates

[strange plinth]

"Its the only way to find Al-" is what Lotus says at the start of the quest

[mint delta]

I mean we are re experiencing the past through dark refractory we aren't physically going to tau so I'd expect we can only find old info on Albrecht

[strange plinth]

we had to find where tau was to get there
it served two purposes

[stiff fable]

again

[celest needle]

-# Are they gonna allow this up?

[stiff fable]

We're going to Tau to look for Albrecht

[flat urchin]

Am i the only one who stopped doingg the story quest because i waited for the revamp of operators?

[proper barn]

No?

They are revamped now.

[stiff fable]

And we needed the memories to get to Tau

[proper barn]

They even added more masc faces now.

[strange plinth]

i've not seen any action taken against this particular one yet
be careful about it, but meh

[mint delta]

How would Albrecht be in tau if the extrasolar rail is broken. The next update is definitely narmer or sentients fixing the rail and us goose chasing Albrecht to tau

[stiff fable]

Hunhow blew up the landmarks

[flat urchin]

You misunderstood me hhhh i said i waited till they revamped the operators

[pale cedar]

I don’t think many cared enough to wait tbh

[strange plinth]

most people here were already done
i did wait on a couple quest replays until after though

[stiff fable]

he has a TARDIS

[proper barn]

Okay so. Albretch has some kind of void travel device it seems.

To get him everywhere.

I think it's gonna be a car.

[worn cypress]

What ?

[stiff fable]

it's how he traveled to 1999

[proper barn]

Oh you aren't there yet.

[flat urchin]

I started last year and i had a hunch they will so i stopped doing the storyline when i awakened the operator

[stiff fable]

well okay that was the coffin

[proper barn]

Don't spoil the child too much chat.

[mint delta]

That's time travel.

[mint delta]

Don't worry about it

[proper barn]

They said they would last year.

Or even before that.

[stiff fable]

and space travel funny enough

[mint delta]

Watch it be a scooter

[proper barn]

Yes. You can do both.

Space and time travel.

[flat urchin]

Ye thats why i just farmed primes and mastery rank

[stiff fable]

the solar system moves through space as time passes

[proper barn]

It might be Kalayamos.

[celest needle]

ZOMBIE HIVE MIND BOY BAND ADVERSARY 🗣️

[proper barn]

This would be the funniest one.

[mint delta]

Kalymos?

[spare brook]

What do you guys think of these two? The first one can be considered a Warframe I think and the other a protoframe if they did exist in Warframe.

[proper barn]

Yes

[worn cypress]

@mint delta @proper barn why

[mint delta]

That's a techno-organic suit , not a person turned into a cyborg controlled wirelessly

[mint delta]

Stolen

[proper barn]

What?

[proper barn]

Yeah so are your kidneys.

[mint delta]

Let me count real quick.

[proper barn]

Those aren't kidneys they are some old hacky sacks

I had around.

[mint delta]

Kuva pouches

That's why I been having sleep issues and hearing stuff

[celest needle]

Or well 🤷

[cunning ore]

This look familiar. A chinese or korean movie?

[mint delta]

Smite this person

[spare brook]

Chinese animated series.

[cunning ore]

I do see it somewhere. A project that there also some academicians work on it?

[spare brook]

That techno-organic suit was made from someone. And how about the second one?

[worn cypress]

What do you mean by.this
And why@mint delta not worry

[mint delta]

Didn't care to watch it

[celest needle]

And there isn't a stupidly comical or selfish and sadistic reason for it either

[mint delta]

U haven't reached to that part of the game uet

[worn cypress]

Quests ?

[spare brook]

How can you give me a opinion if you don't even watch it when I asked for it?

[mint delta]

True only ballas does stuff like this

[mint delta]

Ye

[worn cypress]

Finished them all

[cunning ore]

Genesis may have a harsh day

[mint delta]

Every day is harsh

[cunning ore]

I guess you are in the internship?

[celest needle]

Who is the bringer of the vision and the wise and wise?

[mint delta]

Well the next massive thing in Warframe is going to a different solar system called tau as mentioned by both the lotus and Albrecht stating 'tau is in sight'

[mint delta]

What internship

[cunning ore]

Nvm, just good lucks and hope you better days in future

It will be shine once day tho

[pale cedar]

The loreternship

[celest needle]

the struggle is real

[worn cypress]

What's this 😭

[spare brook]

Not really Academician. It's a original story. It's a very popular series in China due to it being Sci-Fi animation and it was been selected for the main competition at the 2026 Annecy International Animation Film Festival and nominated for a French animation award as it was held at Annecy, France.

[mint delta]

Nah I need to re read the whole wf lore again , I'm rusty

[worn cypress]

Yeh I know this
I asked what did u mean by narmer expension

[mint delta]

Ty ty

[celest needle]

Who's Narmer?

[cunning ore]

I barely see it before but it somehow promote today on my newsfeed

[cunning ore]

[spare brook]

Really?

[stiff fable]

Healed the pain of independence~~

[mint delta]

The only stated way to go to tau physically was through the extrasolar rails created by sentients , the one local to the sol system is broken and the leaked glyph for tennocon 2026 gives narmer/sentient vibes which would hint that the narmer would be trying to fix said rail cause they wanna go to tau too as mentioned by erra and so do us so id expect the next update to be narmer troops fixing the rail, we going to them , killing them and going the rail after entrati to go catch him

[celest needle]

Strong, our wise and trusted friend~~

[worn cypress]

The cult
Why are you questioning me

[strange plinth]

We, united in one vision~~

[celest needle]

Larper test

[worn cypress]

*** "killing them and stealing the solar rail" ***

[mint delta]

Who's larping Warframe

[spare brook]

We could use a exteraterristal threat from dark space beyond the Milky Way Galaxy.

[celest needle]

Rise to sing of sorrow's end~~

[cunning ore]

He, the bringer of the vision~~

[mint delta]

Well that's we do also u can't steal something as big as a rail

[pale cedar]

Sentients got to Tau the long way

[worn cypress]

Wally ?

[stiff fable]

FWIW DE's said that there aren't going to be any aliens

[strange plinth]

no aliens in warframe, i fear
something they've stuck to

[stiff fable]

Just humans and our creations

[spare brook]

Wally is from the Void I meant from beyond the galaxy not a different dimension.

[clever linden]

XENO-flora

[strange plinth]

the exception that proves the rule
also those are flowers

[mint delta]

Infested?

[celest needle]

those are from earth

[spare brook]

Infested were created by Orokin if I remember correctly.

[pale cedar]

No aliens in the traditional sense

[clever linden]

Yep if we found flowers on another planet, we would not call them alien life

[celest needle]

They were there way before them

[stiff fable]

No, they predate the Orokin

[mint delta]

They're the closest alien like thing tbf

[strange plinth]

modified by the orokin, not made by them

[mint delta]

That's how the helminth works

[stiff fable]

you know, the thing I'm most excited about seeing with Nitohk is whether DE gives us another sword

Each Executor was supposed to have their own

[spare brook]

They could always change their minds. It is Sci-fi after all.

[clever linden]

When did they say that?

[strange plinth]

that was what set them apart from other sci-fi. that's why they made the rule

[celest needle]

Warframe is more interesting without aliens and so far they're commited to basically none

[stiff fable]

They haven't changed their minds about Excalibur Prime or the first two heirlooms

[clever linden]

They technically already have with Xenoflora

But tbf they are dead now

[worn cypress]

Hows Albert now ? Like does he exist in normal space ?

[spare brook]

Yea. But we only been to two solar systems so far.

[celest needle]

He's somewhere

[mint delta]

That's what we're trying to figure out

Where is this man

[clever linden]

Warframe definitely feels like a modern Dune

[worn cypress]

Is xenoflore are dead how are some sentiments still sentient

[clever linden]

They were literally built different

[stiff fable]

The sentient were always parts of them

[strange plinth]

the xenoflora granted fragments individuality
larger sentients were already separate

[worn cypress]

?

[spare brook]

Not gonna lie I am curious what a sporling tastes like. Since animals eat mushrooms.

[strange plinth]

also here's the source on that

[worn cypress]

‽._.

[celest needle]

viral x2

[stiff fable]

All the Sentients you fight between Second Dream and New War? Parts of Hunhow.

[pale cedar]

We fight fragments controlled by an individual sentient

Not like there isn’t still a hivemind

[stiff fable]

During the Old Peace, those parts would have been separate people instead.

[spare brook]

Technically Star Trek did that too. The Evolution of Humanity.

[clever linden]

Well that was 4 years ago, likely way before going to Tau was even considered

[spare brook]

Most of it anyway.

[strange plinth]

supposedly they've had the 'next 5 years' planned out since new war

[fast dew]

Nah, wasnt it the last 5 years have been planned?

[celest needle]

-# 2023 was Four?

[fast dew]

It was 3, actually. Cuz. Yk. 3 minus 6 is 3

[strange plinth]

a rough outline if nothing else

[clever linden]

3

[pale cedar]

DE plan everything in advance

[worn cypress]

What will they show in 24/4 ?

[pale cedar]

It’ll be the next five years again soon

[stiff fable]

The late spring/early summer update

[clever linden]

Also why would they give out spoilers on twitter if it’s not the case

Like they weren’t 100% serious anyways, cus xenoflora

[fast dew]

But considering that tau was shown since the new war, I doubt they're gonna retcon smthn like this

[worn cypress]

Nothing about sطory ?

[stiff fable]

Not main story, no

[fast dew]

Dawg they say random shit on twitter all the time

[pale cedar]

They were

They meant no aliens in the traditional sense

[worn cypress]

🙁 when is any hint on main story

[stiff fable]

July. Tennocon.

[mint delta]

That's why we have so many doors everywhere

[strange plinth]

xenoflora doesn't fall in the typical "alien" category
it isn't sapient, its a resource and plot device rather than a group of beings

[fast dew]

They've had to confirm that Albrecht and Loid are lovers before, their twitter is just how they confirm things to the stupid part of the fanbase.

[stiff fable]

(also it's entirely possible the Orokin made it in the first place)

[smoky gulch]

Xenoflora as rehashing of Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?

[strange plinth]

i personally don't agree with this theory, but yes, possibly

[clever linden]

Star Trek, the classic of classic sci-fi, has an episode about alien flowers

Theyve crossed that bridge already

I’m NOT saying there will be more aliens, but if someone asks “does Warframe have aliens” the answer is yes

[fast dew]

I really doubt it tbh

[mint delta]

When wally transforms into loid Albrecht literally says that Wally's poison is love

[fast dew]

Yeah you'll be surprised how many people have thought they're father and son.

[stiff fable]

Babblefish! "if it's too convenient, someone made it"

[fast dew]

I have screenshots to prove this

[stiff fable]

lawl that's hilarious

[spare brook]

So Wally's whole thing is to do whatever the f*ck they want right?

[stiff fable]

some people

[clever linden]

I don’t even really agree with him on this, but Drifter describes Wally as “the closest thing to an alien we’ve found”

[mint delta]

I mean idk how to feel about their dynamic , especially considering Albrecht has another family upstairs.

[strange plinth]

wally's trying to get his fingers back, mostly
otherwise, yea pretty much

[stiff fable]

Wally enjoys causing suffering

[pale cedar]

DE still meant what most think an alien is

[stiff fable]

Like when he made a bunch of colonist parents try to murder their children

[spare brook]

I honestly thought Wally was looking for missing head.

[strange plinth]

and then handed the children powers to kill them instead..

[fast dew]

I am entirely serious

[fast dew]

Which. Loid was involved in lol

It seems that only the grandchildren didn't know

[mint delta]

Ofc

[clever linden]

Semantics at this point

[fast dew]

And the wife died so

[mint delta]

Wait huh

[fast dew]

Yeah, Gerivaine. She's dead.

[mint delta]

If I remember correctly grandmother is Albrecht's wife no?

[strange plinth]

no

[fast dew]

Nup, thats father's mother

[strange plinth]

Albrecht is Mother's father
Grandmother is Father's mother

[fast dew]

Father married in

[mint delta]

Yea something like mother closing the portal when Albrecht got out bleeding and burnt

[fast dew]

And for some reason doesn't get his token in the netracells

[spare brook]

If they ever introduce a mutated human that can absorb the essence of people and void energy, because that person needs to feed on energy to live. That will scare me quite a lot.

[strange plinth]

augh i need to actually save this so i don't have to type out that stupid sentence each time this gets brought up

[mint delta]

Got it

[fast dew]

That was. His daughter his daughter is Euleria, grandmother was Dagath

[fast dew]

My conclusion from this is that Albrecht didn't like him

[pale cedar]

I need an updated one made because I’m too lazy to do it

[mint delta]

Yea

[strange plinth]

ig i could make that actually

[fast dew]

Albrecht didn't like Petros cuz he. Idk was an engineer. "Not an actual scientist"/j

[smoky gulch]

How dare you apply theories :(

Yeah, some scientists are dismissive of engineers

[spare brook]

Lorewise and storywise. Is it better to ||Kill or let the Queen live rot away in her dying Grineer body||?

[pale cedar]

Doesn’t matter she dies anyway

[fast dew]

She dies regardless so it doesn't matter overall

[strange plinth]

doesn't matter, she dies either way
cut her suffering short or let her rot

[fast dew]

Ive seen it happen to an engineer mate of mine, its so weird

[spare brook]

Yea. But storywise I said.

[pale cedar]

It doesn’t matter

[fast dew]

Ehh, its. Not really smthn that matters, just your alignment

[pale cedar]

Do either and and your choice paralysis for a bit

[smoky gulch]

The alignment that sits in front of your profile without any known application

[strange turtle]

It’s a purely personal choice, what do you think the character you’re making of the Operator would do

[spare brook]

I honestly thought the Twin Queens would evolve into butterflies since they look like caterpillars.

[strange plinth]

worm queen continues to be a worm

[spare brook]

Which kind of worm is that? Being a parasite, burrowing in a apple to make it rotten, or laying low in the ground eating dirt and bidding her time?

[cunning ore]

I wonder how they used to look like

[pale cedar]

In the other server I saw someone convinced there was a 3rd Queen

[strange plinth]

wh
what

[spare brook]

I wonder how they ended up looking like that.

[cunning ore]

So that person defy the Kuria?

[smoky gulch]

Stealing bodies of Grineer subject for 1,000+ years

[cunning ore]

They used grineer bodies tho, so they may not used to look like that

[spare brook]

Yea. But what happened to their original Orokin bodies to take up those Grineer queen bodies that's what I meant.

[strange turtle]

Disgusting, foul, identical twins

[pale cedar]

Reached its expiration date like any human body would

[cunning ore]

In my thought Orokin might be a beautiful race and egoistic like elf. But..hm, then i see Karnish. Okay, i take back my word.

[strange turtle]

They probably didn’t even have hair and had to wear wigs like Vay Hek

[smoky gulch]

All bodies have termination time, even high tech orokin vessels - probably they jumped ship starting Grineer rebellion and leading them to have safe place during chaos

[pale cedar]

You’re honestly the second biggest Orokin supporter

[stiff fable]

It's been over a thousand years since the Orokin era

[smoky gulch]

They're worms because they do every cowardly move to survive since then

[stiff fable]

even Corpus board members only live a few hundred years

[smoky gulch]

Unless you're Pervos and get stuck in Void

[clever linden]

That’s the Sentients

[cunning ore]

I won't support Karnish. I don't think those overextended "roundness" could be sth called golden.

[clever linden]

According to the Grineer, sentients are worms /sssss

[cunning ore]

Really. Honestly, don't know. Like how.

[spare brook]

If a Grineer was made/born with no imperfections or defects. Like a genuine regular human I bet they would be dissected by the Grineer and protected heavily by the Steel Meridian and a gold mine for the Corpus.

[fast dew]

Karrish, and. It was seen as desirable, to him, so desirable to a golden lord.

[strange turtle]

They started off like that

[clever linden]

I think Vay Hek calls them “Tau Vermin” but I have no idea where it came from