lore-discussion

[restive river]

There’s no reversing it
There’s no happy ending for them
It’s a grimdark setting lol

[fast dew]

Ik this is. A hypothetical

Wonder how he even. Got a hold of the Grey strain without nearly infesting himself

"Go my loid, go murder some infestation and drag it inside"

[left parrot]

Does Nova Had a lore?

[restive river]

I wonder how Ballas worked with it without getting wormed

[humble sierra]

Yeah she's got a whole Leverian

[fast dew]

You mean. Helminth?

[strange plinth]

she has a leverian entry but not much beyond it

[restive river]

https://www.orokinarchives.com/leverian-nova/

[smoky gulch]

Through slaves servants, presumably

[restive river]

Ye

[left parrot]

Ooo

[left parrot]

OOOO

[restive river]

Have fun :]

[fast dew]

the strain is mostly bloodborne, over airborne iirc

[restive river]

It was also a bomb that one time

[fast dew]

As in. You need fluid contact

[fast dew]

Helminth was. A bomb?

Grey was, but helminth?

[restive river]

Do not kiss the grey strain

[restive river]

No, greystrain?

[fast dew]

Ducky i was talking about helminth

[restive river]

I think there was some miscommunication, sorry lol

[fast dew]

😭

Grey strain is airborne, spores and the like

Helminth seems to be. Transferable by. Injection

[restive river]

Mhm

Helminth has flowers

[fast dew]

And relatively un-transmittable without it

It does, but that doesn't mean spores, moreso seeds

[restive river]

Wait if helminth has flowers could it have pollen?
Aka spores?

Yeah, just weird that it has flowers

And why specifically for the frames

Unless Ballas added that in later cause Margulis’ favorite flower and the Tenno with the frames

[smoky gulch]

"Transfering through blood? Strain of your talents?"
"It's a peaceful life"

[fast dew]

Its "Pollen" is apart of the reproductive process presumably. Not fully able to do it without another half

Like. How flowers work lol

Meaning it has. Fruit

[restive river]

Well it’s the infestation so it’s not 1:1 and it’s more so about just spreading it, not reproduction

[lofty locust]

hmmmmmmmm now im even more intrigued on how roathe was able to make a whole helminth.

[fast dew]

Seeds!

It could be making seeds!

[strange plinth]

grey strain is most likely airborne or something similar
general strain is absolutely airborne because it floods wherever we are with spores
helminth seems bloodborne of some sort, based on helminth injections and Lizzie being formed via Flare's blood. (also "domestication" preventing or slowing spread)
and there's whatever's going on with emissary ig

[restive river]

Or spores

[restive river]

Through his own infested blood

[fast dew]

If it was spore based im. Not sure it would be so restrainable

It doesn't transfer as easy as spore based infestation

[lofty locust]

yes i get that much

[fast dew]

Id imagine if they made seeds, that would make the helminth mouth part specifically

[restive river]

That mouth isn’t exclusive to helminth

[lofty locust]

but what makes up a helminth? that's the question. what must a helminth have in order to be considered a helminth?

[fast dew]

Asset reuse

[restive river]

I think it can make spores and still be liquid

[smoky gulch]

Worship of Tenno as its demon

[restive river]

Or
It’s all the same thing anyway lol

[fast dew]

Bloodborne things. Usually have the spores in the. Fluid they use to transmit

[restive river]

They’re infested
The helminth is just a domesticated strain

[fast dew]

But its very hard to find the two in one species

[restive river]

It’s what makes up the warframes

Oh wait maybe the frame flowers just produce a sort of nectar

[fast dew]

As in. Airborne spores and bloodborne ones. Mostly because. Bloodborne diseases struggle to stay alive outside it

[restive river]

That’s the fluid

No seeds required just straight to the fluid

[fast dew]

Maybe yeah!

[restive river]

Or the flowers do nothing 😔
Maybe sorta vestigial from the techrot days

[fast dew]

In conclusion, Albrecht wore a special respirator and didnt share with the family/j

-# chances are they were already infested

[restive river]

He also probably had to scrub, hard afterward

[fast dew]

Decontamination shower!!!

Eugh. Horrible experience btw

[restive river]

Rania: "All those skin-blistering showers, shift after shift, scrubbing every pore. I was never going to let it infect me. And now…."

[restive river]

I think you need more than that

[lofty locust]

just continuity into another body before the infestation takes over /j

[restive river]

Good question actually
If you’re an Orokin and get infected, how long before it’s too late?

[fast dew]

However long it takes the infestation to reach the brain maybe

So. Not very long

[pale cedar]

It evolves quickly

[hoary wasp]

Is it important for the lore to have a warframe with big boobs and ass?

[pale cedar]

No

[hoary wasp]

Oh okay cause i was wondering 👍

[restive river]

Ballas freaky

[hoary wasp]

Ong

[lofty locust]

why do you ask lol

[hoary wasp]

Because i'm doing new war quest and since frames are designed for war how is it strategic to have a thicc frame

[lofty locust]

i vaguely recall frames being made out of real people...

that's why jade is pregnant

[strange plinth]

their abilities are the strategy, the appearance is vanity

[lofty locust]

and we all know how much orokin loved vanity

[fast dew]

Tbh a decent chunk of warframes aren't. That big

Sometimes its deadass the animation that warps the model

Wisp's animations are a good example

[lofty locust]

mhm

[fast dew]

And the boob situation usually comes from skins lol a lot of them do not have much

You'd think the woman who is pregnant would have it but, no not really
-# pregnancy causes boob growth

[lofty locust]

anatomy of women with the tenno, yay!

[fast dew]

Oh shout out to the time someone tried to tell me jade is. Fat

[lofty locust]

the fat is the babby

[fast dew]

Yeah well I own the majority of the anatomy myself

So we learning shit today

[lofty locust]

me too its ok

[dark compass]

Jade doesn't even really look like it was a human at some point. Her design is so segmented and artificial

She looks like a gundam more than literally any other frame

[fast dew]

Well her design isnt really based on. A human

She's based on a seraph

[dark compass]

Yeah but

[strange plinth]

tbf those shouldn't be mechanical either

[dark compass]

You can clearly see the difference

[restive river]

Neither should flesh and yet, the infestation

[dark compass]

Between most frames and her

[fast dew]

True, but we dont really know what a seraph's body would be

[dark compass]

She's just much more mechanical in her design

[fast dew]

They purposefully cover their body with their wings, so

We just do not know

[restive river]

Maybe Ballas wanted her to look as least human as possible in some ways, more purely just a weapon
She does wield the jade light

[strange plinth]

mm, true

[dark compass]

Like you can see in this weird bug

Her body is like one step away from Zephyr Harrier

[fast dew]

Beautiful

[lofty locust]

didn't ballas punish the stalker by turning jade into a warframe...?

[strange plinth]

turned both into frames for their relationship/having a child, yes

[fast dew]

Also I think those are supposed to look like feathers 😭

[restive river]

Could also be DE designed her as less human-like due to the uh
Subject material of her quest

[dark compass]

Most likely

[lofty locust]

i had a Moment when i played the Minigame in her quest. love papa stalker tho.

[dark compass]

All the breasts budget went a bit lower

[fast dew]

I got..more upset over the operator screaming when you failed a beat

[restive river]

Infestation’s relegating resources to what’s important

[fast dew]

That was. A choice.

[restive river]

We do feel what the frame does, technically

[fast dew]

True, it just. Got to me

I get like it when thrax screams too

Bad feeling.

[lofty locust]

at this point it's uh. to quote quincy-k.... space trauma.

too much space trauma yall

[fast dew]

Xata...

[scenic spruce]

ORDISSSS

NOOOOOO

[lofty locust]

overall, i looked at all the base frames just now and

i can say, they're just diverse body types. i don't think it's tied lorewise, i think it's meant to represent the lost humanity that these frames once had. that's why they're only humanoid in appearance

[fast dew]

I agree

They're not all in one spot. Its the skins that do that

-# heirlooms.

-# *female heirlooms

[lofty locust]

there's like 2 😭

[fast dew]

Almost 4 actually

Mag, Ember, Valkyr, and now Mesa

Or. Soon to be Mesa

Woe

[scenic spruce]

Does it matter if I choose Operator or Drifter in The New War quest?

[lofty locust]

mag heirloom?? i havent seen that :(

[fast dew]

Yeah, it was a limited time thing, but you can still link it

Frost also had one

[dark compass]

I wish it was Banshee instead

She needs some love, regardless of her kit

[cunning ore]

Helllo

I think i found a way to heirloom every frames

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-kitten-kitty-hi-hii-hey-gif-21229532

[cunning ore]

Citrine

[radiant pier]

NUKEEER

ANDDDD THOMASSS

[cunning ore]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-gif-10804346947536782797

[radiant pier]

and you never will

it is literally never coming back ever, along with frost

[fast dew]

Bonjour

[radiant pier]

so if you like those 2 frames then LMAO, WE DED

I play Voruna like this

and my buddy who's an ex Voruna main uses her as a nuker

[lofty locust]

mag was my starter and i am constantly looking to improve her lulz

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-meme-all-ears-cat-ears-gif-15939285897565502931

[radiant pier]

yeah that heirloom is never coming back just so you know

[dark compass]

I hope they'll do SOMETHING to bring them back

Even as legally distinct designs

Like the tennocon cape

Maybe without the glowstick skin

[radiant pier]

cope

<---also chose mag as a starter

<----and loves oriental texturing

[ocean geyser]

That’s the plan iirc

[dark compass]

i hope

[smoky gulch]

Kinda amusing for a company to do legally distinct versions of their own productions

[graceful yew]

ALL warframe is a kid right ? light they don,t have self conscience only umbra .warframe is a armor

[fast dew]

Theres kids piloting them, yes. Warframes themselves are made of humans, so their ages vary. And no, they do have their own conscious, its just suppressed

[graceful yew]

Oooh so

ITS right i ...think warframes are adults ?

Like warframe and Tenno being different

[dark compass]

And when you transference to them, you take some of their repressed consciousness

Some of their memories, behaviors

Since you are one now

So you get new animations and such

[fast dew]

Yes and no. Some warframes are, other warframes like Yareli are a child

[graceful yew]

oh ok child ? yareli looks like 18 17

like ALL warframe are tall

[fast dew]

She was a yuvan. So. A child + all warframes are mostly the same height, smthn smthn animations needing to work with each model

[graceful yew]

oh ok .but thanks tô explain

now i know warframe are diferent than tenno

and the most are adults

[cunning ore]

Won't. The only thought i feel could possible is some garments that lookalike

[cunning ore]

=)) Typo làm nên tất cả

[dark compass]

They did make a reskin of the tennocon 2025 cape

[graceful yew]

i don,t understand you

[cunning ore]

Me neither

[cunning ore]

I think they might do something like sigils, emphemera

[graceful yew]

Oh

[smoky gulch]

Sooo, this is Drifter transferencing back into Warframe times?

[fast dew]

Yeah, to scare the shit out of Loid ig

[smoky gulch]

Lil shitter lmao

[fast dew]

"Sah dude :)"

[humble sierra]

Yeah just letting him know it's all clear

The Vessels are made of Hex DNA and stuff so Drifter is able to pilot one only after knowing the Hex

[main arch]

You know what

IF they do make a protoframe for Lavos, I really hope the character takes heavy inspiration from Sigma in Overwatch.

[radiant pier]

give me an old timey steampunk alchemist

[fast dew]

I hope they make something unique tbh

[main arch]

Wait nvm. That idea is gonna go towards a Limbo protoframe if he ever gets one. LIMBO Proto would be the Sigma.

[main arch]

Also yeh

[fast dew]

As if a limbo proto wouldn't immediately be the dude who looks like limbo prime

[radiant pier]

WHAT IN THE NAME OF GOD WAS THAT

weird "glitch" screen

I couldn't screenshot 💔

[fast dew]

Did it have red text

Orokin text specifically

Also. If i scroll past one more protoframe without their helminth infested parts, including the clothes being fused to their skin, im gonna crash out.

[radiant pier]

errr

I saw some red yes

and some weird....almost sounded like music? but...pixelated

[fast dew]

Did it look like. Cursive?

Like orokin text

Wait. Hold on

[radiant pier]

pixels.

[fast dew]

Did it look like this or

[smoky gulch]

People love aesthetics of a character more than their story

[radiant pier]

it played at the end of a mission

like when I finished

[fast dew]

Yeah it does that sometimes

[radiant pier]

why

[fast dew]

Xata.. unfortunately.

[fast dew]

The text? Yeah its a. Easter egg for the second dream

[radiant pier]

that's all??

[fast dew]

Mhm

[smoky gulch]

It was teaser for second dream at the time

From what I have heard

[fast dew]

I don't have the translation, but it hints at the operator's existence

[brittle siren]

I really want Tau to be as least as grand as New War

[humble sierra]

VOID-LINK SEVERED
REASON FOREIGN CARRIER DETECTED. ORIGIN UNKNOWN. SUSPICION TRACKING SIGNAL.
REINITIATING DIPOLAR CONNECTION ON NOVEL CARRIER. BIO ON STANDBY FOR SYNC CHECK AND SYNC.
MOTION COMPENSATION COMPLETE.
SELENIC LENSING LOCKED.
SOMATIC CONTROL ESTABLISHED.
MARGULIS IMPLANTATION INTACT.
EVM STATUS NOMINAL.
WAR PLATFORM AWAITING SYNC.
INITIALISING SYNAPTIC OVERLAY... GOOD NIGHT, SWEET ANGEL.

[radiant pier]

oh that's so cool

[fast dew]

Thank you arkadia

[humble sierra]

It's always so hard to google that for some reason

[pale cedar]

DE should honestly remove it at this point if you've finished TSD

[humble sierra]

Results are just "hey what does this mean"

[humble sierra]

I like it, even if it doesn't make sense lorewise

[pale cedar]

It just confuses people is the issue

[sweet wadi]

Something just clicked with me.

Little Duck’s name implies that ducks still exist in the sol system. Not as genetically modified designer animals like kubrow or Kavat, but just… ducks.

[radiant pier]

is there an in universe reason why some of the liches speak like they're tryna convince you gilfs exist?

[sweet wadi]

They get lonely

Don’t judge them.

Or do. SA is no laughing matter.

Some of the sisters do the same thing.

[sweet wadi]

… shit we get harassed a lot actually.

[ashen pulsar]

who knows, maybe it evolved to not be associated with ducks.

[fast dew]

Fym convince, they do exist 😭

[radiant pier]

ofc you'd know

[fast dew]

The great thing about the word gilf is that its gender neutral

[radiant pier]

damn you telling me I gotta deal with that IN GAME TOO?

[sweet wadi]

Welcome to the Origin System. There’s no HR.

[rigid compass]

By who

[fast dew]

I can list

By a lot of people

Almost every other sister

[rigid compass]

Tbf ducks were prob farmed for food

[rigid compass]

Who?

[sweet wadi]

Liches and sisters, the worm, Varzai to a lesser extent, Alad V, Grandpa Vor, arguably Wally… I’m probably forgetting a few.

[rigid compass]

Also limbo is goated

[fast dew]

Base colours too

[rigid compass]

Oh buh I hate loid though 😔 🥀

[fast dew]

..why

[rigid compass]

I mean if albrect did give him a frame it would def be limbo

[fast dew]

Hell did he do lol

[rigid compass]

Called necraloid a construct

[fast dew]

He. Is though

[rigid compass]

Immediately on the hate train

[fast dew]

Necraloid is a construct

[rigid compass]

Condescendingly

[sweet wadi]

Actually I’m going to include Alad V twice because he’s so skeezy about it.

[fast dew]

Other people call him a cephalon

[fast dew]

Tell me, if someone made a copy of your brain to replace you, and then proceeded to make it "better" by eliminating any perceived flaws, would you also be a little upset?

[rigid compass]

Nah uh

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-nuh-uh-lock-in-gif-2118468025980683374

[fast dew]

Yeah, sure.

[sweet wadi]

Oh and the infestation as a whole counts I guess

[rigid compass]

Uh huh get mad at the construct but still glaze the everloving shit outta the guy who made it

[fast dew]

Ew. Cringe.

[fast dew]

Do you not think he isnt angry at Albrecht?

[smoky gulch]

Oh, I'd be upset at the person and their perception of me, if anything

[fast dew]

Did you play the quest blindfolded 😭

[rigid compass]

Still a d1 glazer👀

[smoky gulch]

Lashing out against the machine is natural in this situation

[fast dew]

... I see.

[sweet wadi]

Loid is very clearly sick of Albrecht’s shit, regardless of his feelings for him.

[fast dew]

Yeah lol

He was. Angry, frustrated

Rightfully so

Something I did notice however, is that the man never got frustrated at us

Just... around us

Its not like he wouldn't do it to our face

He's also lowkey scary

[sweet wadi]

He’s aware that we’re in the same boat he is; pieces in a plan neither of us really had a say in.

[fast dew]

He has. Killed people before

He will do it again

[sweet wadi]

Well yeah he’s an Orokin’s butler.

[fast dew]

He also just decided to take on the fragmented one with just a zylok prime and

That was a pivotal moment

[rigid compass]

I mean khal mogs the whole murex fleet with a grakata so 🤷

[narrow pendant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ms1PCuDp2s

🥹

[fast dew]

Ehhh.

That. Was one murex wasn't it? Not a fleet?

And. Like. Theres the sentients and there's a unknowable eldritch entity known for turning universes into dust. A bit of difference there

[narrow pendant]

if were talking about the veilbreaker intro quest, it was a murex that is abandoned by the main fleet drifting around deimos

[fast dew]

Even better

Shit was abandoned

[narrow pendant]

thats the whole reason daughter was scanning it in the first place

this is just hearsay or badly remembering the source but iirc it was a murex sent to check on deimos but either vome or fass shot it out of commission

[fast dew]

... both

It would've been both

Because theres the father line where he comments on it

[narrow pendant]

if its stated ig, we dont really see them both in a fully regenerated state together for long

[fast dew]

"Did I tell you Ballas sent one of his Narmer Murexes sniffing around here?"
"Vome and Fass blew it clear out of the sky!"
"Only thing they hate worse than each other is having their territory invaded."

[narrow pendant]

was really bad timing then lol

[fast dew]

Ooor they have some control over it?

[narrow pendant]

perhaps the one even helped the other regenerate faster

common theme against narmer lmao

[fast dew]

The two just kicking the shit out of the murex 💔

Its so funny

[narrow pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/drapetrain-gif-8140001342945406828

[frigid furnace]

vome and fass be like:

[narrow pendant]

"deimos isnt yours to conquer"

[fast dew]

The new lines are so funny

Daughter isnt upset at loid for sleeping with Albrecht because he's her grandfather, she's upset cus she thought he had good taste LMFAO

[frigid furnace]

Lol

[fast dew]

Oh and. Loid is apparently, canonically, "ravishing", according to son.

So. Thats... a thing I guess

[narrow pendant]

like fine wine

[fast dew]

Looks like son got Albrecht's self-depreciation though, Son looks fine lmao

[fast dew]

Genuinely though its impressive Albrecht pulled loid at all

[narrow pendant]

maybe his guilt of getting them all infested

[fast dew]

Oh yeah probably

[narrow pendant]

makes him more self concious

[fast dew]

The Entrati Guilt™

[lunar prawn]

I mean, aside from the infestation

[fast dew]

Even with the infestation

All of the entrati are pretty imo

[lunar prawn]

I guess that's true

[fast dew]

Including Albrecht, he is. Handsome. He still disgusts me for. Reasons™

[lunar prawn]

Loid is the living proof that twink death is a myth

[fast dew]

He wasn't a twink from the get go, thats why

He has a whole ass beard 😭

[lunar prawn]

Yeah that's not enough

You seen that man

[fast dew]

He. Has long hair?

I dont see how he's ah. boyish, young and effeminate

[narrow pendant]

the loid concept art

[fast dew]

Things he isn't.

[narrow pendant]

had him in thighhighs

[fast dew]

THEY'RE BOOTS

THOSE WERE BOOTS.

[narrow pendant]

still, very much inspired

[fast dew]

He was also blue in the same concept art

Clearly he isnt like that now

[narrow pendant]

yeah he seems more like an archimedian status, at least hes worthy of that title

[fast dew]

He is. In fact, masculine enough to not be a twink

The dude has whole ass pecs in his final model he is. Masculine, just on the leaner side with. Long hair lol

[old wharf]

Did Ballas do nothing wrong?

[fast dew]

No. He's a narcissistic abuser lol

[old wharf]

Oh

I thought that he was trying to save the sun (Played the new war while VERY sleepy)

I guess in the end, Vay hek was always better

[narrow pendant]

he was about to consume it for energy to go to tau while leaving the entire system to die

brute forcing the void portal needed

[old wharf]

W Ballas?

[strange patio]

I have a question I'm like probably a little half way through the new war and just got past where I'm with the stalker and that other guy talking about the archons and was wondering why they are calling the drifter tenno?

[opaque zenith]

Normally someone would finish a quest before asking questions. Cause spoilers and stuff

[strange patio]

Yeah nvm you're right lol

[heady quest]

Yeah 😂😂😂

[main arch]

Kaeli is a liar. Last time I checked "fish" do not fricken fly 😭

Imagine Latrox Une just sees the fish for the first time and catches them casually swimming in the air.

[rigid compass]

Crabs prob think fish fly its just a density thing

[normal mountain]

Infested fish do
Although they're not rightly fish, either
They're Orokin service drones that look sorta like fish

[rigid compass]

Plus if u look at how they move it looks like swimming not flying

[normal mountain]

And got subsumed by Infestation to varying degrees

[fast dew]

Yeah they're just. Tech gotten yoinked by the infestation

They're not really fish

[rigid compass]

Orb vallis has non infested ones

So theres that

[fast dew]

Different type i feel, but close enough

[rigid compass]

Orb ones prob not orokin but they are pretty similar

[fast dew]

A lot of them are current era, meanwhile the. Ones from Daughter's collection are exclusively orokin era

[rigid compass]

Pretty much

What do yall think is most likely for tau to be about?

And would that be its own saga or still void war

[fast dew]

Void war still

Void war will last until we figure out a way to supress or kill wally

And Tau is. Somehow apart of that

[rigid compass]

I mean if its about finding a way to beat wally sure but I think it could go tau saga and then back to void war part 2 ig

[fast dew]

Ehh

[rigid compass]

Depends on how many tau quests there are

[fast dew]

Not really what happens

Its still overall the void war arc

[rigid compass]

Ight but would the sentients be friendly hostile both? Fighting aliens? More importantly can we kill hunhow level sentients and will there be another shitty free roam

500 nodes

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-the-orville-gif-7999465420984481267

[fast dew]

Im not even gonna touch that.

[rigid compass]

500 sp nodes

Level 1000 enemies

10000000% drop rate

[fast dew]

Back to drawing loid i go.

[radiant pier]

are they really still tryna find someone to talk to

[fast dew]

Hm?

[radiant pier]

I'll just ignore it

[dark compass]

Hate to be that person but

[rigid compass]

Shhhhhhh

[dark compass]

This game's power budget has long exceeded 9999

That's why Perita and Descendia have artificial HP boosting on top of normal level scaling

[rigid compass]

Mine hasnt also a lot of other players havent

[dark compass]

At this point in time it takes a frame pick to reach it

Not even a weapon

[rigid compass]

Still takes a long time to get that

To that point

[dark compass]

Oh, Garuda Prime is that hard to get?

Actually I think I should've started from a different perspective because this makes me look like a snobbish level cap elitist

We just need more engaging modes, not level creep

[rigid compass]

No I mean it still takes a lot of time to make builds that can do millions

[dark compass]

Bc it's almost meaningless nowadays

[rigid compass]

Yuh

[dark compass]

Oh

Not really...

It takes knowledge, not time

[rigid compass]

Time to get that knowledge though

[dark compass]

"guys whos the best nuker im mr2"

Here's your path to knowledge

[rigid compass]

Also what about focus

[dark compass]

Focus?

I barely know us

[rigid compass]

Only way to farm it beyond daily cap is eidolon which again take a lot of time

[dark compass]

I don't know, I'm not talking about that

I'm talking about things that scale with enemy hp or level

Those take zero mods to bring online

Vauban, Follie, Garuda, Oberon, Revenant as examples that just work out of the box

[rigid compass]

Also I still see people struggling in steel path (me)

[rigid compass]

Broken ah frames

[dark compass]

See, it's a matter of knowing why they're broken

In ways that matter to this specific discussion

[rigid compass]

Wtv man I got a lot to grind

[dark compass]

[rigid compass]

[dark compass]

Sorry I'm expecting people to know too much

I shouldn't be legally allowed to engage in this sort of discussions the way I'm chronically online more than most

[rigid compass]

Theres a lot of stuff to unlock to be able to get items and stuff plus getting endo and credits for mods. Takes a lot of time man😭. Like I got 7 syndicates to rank up if I wanna get their wares

[rigid compass]

Touch grass

[dark compass]

The grind is real, though I was talking about stuff that doesn't really require long term efforts

[dark compass]

Believe me, I would've done it if I could

[rigid compass]

Ik warframes have a lot of % things

[dark compass]

Under my circumstances it's better that I won't

[fast dew]

I can touch grass

[dark compass]

Thomas will touch grass for me

[fast dew]

Yuppers

[dark compass]

Settled

[fast dew]

Ill roll around in it

Tomorrow, at 8 at night

[pale cedar]

Why would I touch grass and go outside when inside was invented for a reason

[dark compass]

Growing grass at home

[fast dew]

Theres a small park near my house so

[devout heron]

allergies

[dark compass]

Yeah I'm very allergic to people that live around me

[devout heron]

bad area?

[dark compass]

Who knows

[pale cedar]

There's nothing to really do outside where I live

[dark compass]

I should go to theater some time

[pale cedar]

They keep getting rid of outside things where I live

[strange turtle]

Make a giant building around all the stuff you want them to not get rid of

Call it Hongyuan or smthn idk

[devout heron]

https://tenor.com/view/hong-lu-limbus-company-the-lord-of-hongyuan-hong-lu-wu-branch-adept-yi-sang-yi-sang-gif-1862358390932462923

[celest needle]

Or put up a sign

[true moth]

Why didn't the sentients utilise the eidolons when the took over earth in the new war

[dark compass]

because the eidolons are long "dead"

its like trying to recruit zombies into your organized army

[fast dew]

Mm. Doesnt rev do this

[celest needle]

Nekros:

[dark compass]

Ask Ballas why he, the creator of warframes, didnt employ them for such things

[tall echo]

they're not sapient enough to recruit

[sweet wadi]

If ascaris negators can control a warframe and give full access to its powers, why were tenno needed?

[fast dew]

Ngl no clue

[tall echo]

they work by taking control from the tenno, so presumably it hijacks the pilot somehow

[pale cedar]

Why didn't the Sentients recruit Scrap into their army?

[tall echo]

too unpredictable

[fast dew]

Mm. Do we think sentients can be glassed and turned into cephalons

[pale cedar]

Someone should test it

[rigid compass]

Anything with a mind could be turned into a cephalon i think.
A kubrow could prob be turned into one but they would just be a barking cephalon

[fast dew]

Ehhh

[pale cedar]

Cephalon Mira the barking Cephalon

[rigid compass]

I think its supposed to be psuedo transference cause caliban prime and protea prime prob didnt have tenno controlling them

[tall echo]

why not

[fast dew]

They probably do lol

[pale cedar]

If you don't get the reference I'm sending Thomas after you

[fast dew]

Do it.

[dark compass]

wasnt there a dialogue about ascaris putting an expiration date of sorts on the hijacked tenno?

[rigid compass]

Caliban was in progress also there weren't any other tenno in tau

[dark compass]

something along the lines of using them before they expire

or am i misremembering something else

[rigid compass]

From vor i think

Idk what though

[fast dew]

They. Do not to be physically at tau

[rigid compass]

Its ascaris btw the negator is whats used by us to counter it in vors prize

[rigid compass]

Caliban was still in progress he likely didnt get a tenno in it

[tall echo]

a caliban was

[fast dew]

Theres. Multiple caliban primes

[tall echo]

warframes aren't one and done

[rigid compass]

How?

If he was being made then why would they make more?

[fast dew]

Why do we make more than one warframe?

[rigid compass]

Thats like making 100 prototypes before finalizing the design

[dark compass]

im sorry to tell you

[fast dew]

No, thats making multiple of the designs.

[dark compass]

that does actually happen also

[tall echo]

primes aren't the originals

[dark compass]

even though its beside the point

[rigid compass]

100 of the same prototype I mean

[fast dew]

The countless drafts ive made for fanfics i wrote man

I mean

Yeah. That happens too

[pale cedar]

I bet Ballas had tons of draft Warframe designs

[limber hull]

Caliban was erra's creation, then primed to become sort of bridge in the orokin-sentients empire

[rigid compass]

Do warframes get designed like that or were they not just gambling on helminth strain making a W frame

[fast dew]

They get designed like that

[rigid compass]

That doesnt even relate to what I said

[fast dew]

The set design can get warped

See: Mirage

Id also count Harrow for Rell being able to persist across all harrows

[pale cedar]

Cyte wasn't even meant to be named Cyte

[rigid compass]

?

Whats that even mean

[midnight ice]

yeah yeah, the interdimensional harrow group chat, we've all seen jt

[fast dew]

Of course you're here/lh

[pale cedar]

Thomas probably created the group chat

[fast dew]

Anyways, Rell's existence was shared across others who shared the harrow strain

Lyon can sense Rell

[rigid compass]

What happened to rell? Did he die or is he just eating popcorn watching ballas kill lotus (who abandoned him btw)

[fast dew]

He just died lol

Our proof that tenno can die

[rigid compass]

I think its just cause he did permanent transference and then harrow got destroyed

[fast dew]

Ehh

[rigid compass]

Which also dont make sense

[sweet wadi]

I thought the voice lines implied their operators were dead.

[fast dew]

No.

[rigid compass]

Why did rell do that to survive

[fast dew]

Because. That part of wally would still be there

[rigid compass]

What?

[fast dew]

And if that's what stops us from dying, then it shoudlve stopped rell from dying

[tall echo]

kinda

[fast dew]

Old age, actually

He got older. Too old.

So, tenno can age. And they can die from age.

[tall echo]

like the ascaris'd tenno are certainly not doing well

[rigid compass]

Rell used transference to survive not being put in cryosleep but tenno dont age or need food or anything right?

[fast dew]

Because. He was gonna die.

No lol

[rigid compass]

How

[fast dew]

They age.

Shrimple as that

[rigid compass]

Source?

[tall echo]

tenno are kids bc they were in cryo

[fast dew]

They age.

My source? Rell.

[tall echo]

cryo freezes you

[fast dew]

They didnt age because. They were in cryo

[rigid compass]

Rell ages my source rell ages

[tall echo]

that's why it's called cryo

[fast dew]

Dear god

Do you..want me to bring up chains of harrow as a source or

[dark compass]

Uh, does it count that once we free him, Harrow literally crumbles into dust

[rigid compass]

So how long was the old war?

And how long has it been since awakening

[dark compass]

I think we're talking thousands of years, right?

[tall echo]

we have no timeline given

[rigid compass]

So how do we know they age?

We have never seen an old tenno

[tall echo]

because rell himself says so

[rigid compass]

Even drifter who is older tenno isnt dead after a thousand years

[rigid compass]

When

[tall echo]

during the chains of harrow quest

[rigid compass]

NO DUH BUT WHEN

[tall echo]

why do you have no chill

you're making me want to annoy you

[rigid compass]

Sonion

[fast dew]

Lotus: "How could Rell have lived this long? Without the long dream?"

Palladino: "In a way, he didn't. He knew his mortality would undo his purpose, so he gave up his humanity, forever. He committed his soul to the undying vessel-"

"His mortality"

So.

Hes mortal.

Plain and simple

[rigid compass]

And ballas says u cant kill the devil

[fast dew]

In the most simple way to understand

And are we a devil?

[rigid compass]

Omg bro

[tall echo]

ballas is a pretentious moron

[fast dew]

Also

[dark compass]

I'm a devil

[tall echo]

he was assuming, incorrectly

[fast dew]

Ballas knows nothing about how the tenno functions

[dark compass]

Like with little horns and stuff

[fast dew]

Id rather believe a Tenno

[tall echo]

right palladino, not rell

[fast dew]

Me too

[dark compass]

Like a homestuck troll

[pallid spoke]

Ballas is the literal definition of "unreliable narrator."

[fast dew]

Mine are like. Mm

[dark compass]

[tall echo]

I'm a purple eye with a gun

[dark compass]

Hi purple eye with a gun

[fast dew]

Tiefling

[tall echo]

teethling

[dark compass]

There are many kinds of tieflings

Some are red, some are purple

Some are yellow and smell of sulfur

[fast dew]

Mmm. Purple

Purple Tiefling

-# like my goober in BG3

[tall echo]

basic

[rigid compass]

Son we gotta assume the old war + the awakening lasted only like 1 year since operator ages

[fast dew]

Shut.

... what

Cryosleep.

[tall echo]

trans people when tiefling

[fast dew]

OH SHUT UP

[rigid compass]

Mb I meant ages

[fast dew]

ELVES SUCK

AND I WANNA HAVE POINTY EARS

[rigid compass]

If they age then old war and awakening are like 1 -2 years at most

[fast dew]

...cryo sleep.

[rigid compass]

Highly unlikely

[tall echo]

(dnd) elves are cool

[fast dew]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

[rigid compass]

TF DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING

[tall echo]

cryosleep

[fast dew]

WE WAKE UP FROM THE CRYOSLEEP IN GAME.

[tall echo]

do you understand what cryosleep is

[rigid compass]

THERES NO WAY ITS ONLY BEEN A YEAR FOR OLD WAR

[fast dew]

WE DO NOT AGE IN CRYO

[rigid compass]

THAT ONLY COVERS THE TIME SKIP

[fast dew]

ITS NOT. WE WERE FROZEN.

holy hell.

[tall echo]

we were in cryo during the war too

[rigid compass]

Omg bro

[fast dew]

Holy hell, holy christ

https://tenor.com/view/gato-withrock-gif-27341353

[rigid compass]

How we gonna be in cryo and operate the warframes

[tall echo]

not quite as sophisticated as the transference capsules at first but the tenno have been in and out of cryo since they got off the zariman

[fast dew]

You

[tall echo]

bruh

[dark compass]

You literally do it for the entire first half

[fast dew]

You do that. For the first half of the game

[dark compass]

Until the second dream

Where you get up

[rigid compass]

First fifth at best

[fast dew]

No, no not really

Theres. What

[dark compass]

Still, point is made

[fast dew]

How many main quests?

[dark compass]

You can transfer while in cryosleep

[celest needle]

Did a bomb go off or something 😭

[tall echo]

no just a worm

with anger issues

[dark compass]

I'm so hungry...

[tall echo]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-alerted-the-horse-horse-gt-when-the-gif-24722142

[celest needle]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-grendel-prime-tenno-operator-gif-6938527056597534959

[fast dew]

Pretty much.

[dark compass]

I'm hungry for blood

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/crunch-cat-luna-eat-gif-3997701764820700221

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-cat-shaking-marketing-the-marketing-gif-11824455535266432525

Wrong gif

[fast dew]

LMAO

Woe

[tall echo]

oh no, capitalism

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bunny-carry-carrying-away-bunny-bunny-walk-chill-bunny-gif-718057308746791294

Bunny upon ye

[celest needle]

Why are the murmer weak to radiation

[fast dew]

Theyre weak to it idk

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/cape-hare-hare-cat-rabbit-attack-gif-15676806034823261095

[celest needle]

They're non biological
They can't get cancer
How would they be weak to it

[fast dew]

Maybe its

Not the biological weakness

But. Something to do with the energy

[dawn galleon]

mmm...

yes, due to the EM waves, apparently the lore stated that radiation with it's strong force can "push" away the void?

[fast dew]

Erm thats a hare/j

[dark compass]

I think it's supposed to be metaphorical! Radiation in some ways has relation to light/life in this game. Maybe it's opposed to their inherent "darkness"

[dawn galleon]

i'm assuming void wants to be empty? pure nothingness?

Radiation causes the opposite, it causes something to move fast, something to fill with its radiation,

it could be that the void has to eat through radiation? but if radiation keeps pushing, and the void keeps eating, it will always "eat" the radiation and can't expand further similar to the concept of the paradox from zenon?

[dark compass]

There's also the fact everything in orokin void is resistant to radiation

While murmur are weak to it

There's a bit of a vague, but a drawn line nonetheless

That keeps radiation and void opposed to each other

Oberon is life, Oberon is radiation.

Orokin use biotech and their beam weapons do rad damage

Mirage's prism is radiation dmg

And wisp's sun portal is also rad dmg

I think it's supposed to be light vs darkness sort of deal

[fast dew]

Nodding nodding

Both valid theories

[dark compass]

I'm not really talking about the in-universe implications

Just the philosophy it has been designed under

Which means

White energy color should do extra dmg against murmur

[dawn galleon]

actually, both appears to be wrong?

void angels are neutral toward radiation?

which means that it's the rock from the murmur?

[dark compass]

Void angels are a bit of a different case I think?

They're people corrupted by void

Murmur are Wally

Like yeah you can flash a light at a corrupted person

That won't make the person brighter

You can flash a light at a dark corner and it'll be "'cleansed"

[dawn galleon]

it seems that the void angel has "darker" skin tone than the murmur itself

[dark compass]

I just think it's not really applicable because Void Angels are a byproduct that required something from our world to come to existence. It's a mix of two things.

Murmur aren't really that

You can call void angels an incarnon form of a person

Too bad their own soul will be used to charge the meter

But returning from this philosophical discussion to the lore

Radiation weakness 100% has some sort of meaning to it

Remembering the Old Peace quiz and some sort of tau radiation that botched the transference, aka void powers

Maybe we'll use it to shoot Wally with the strongest nukor ever made

[strange turtle]

People got burnt out

Whatshername mentions something about it in Old Peace

[dark compass]

Galastra?

[strange turtle]

Yeah her

[pallid spoke]

Basically, if you brute-force control a Warframe too much, you'll end up killing yourself from the strain.

[celest needle]

Drop nukes into the void.

[dark compass]

Maybe the nuke in 1999 was important

[dawn galleon]

that's interesting to think about, but wouldn't that neccessarily entail that the human from the void angel can be rescued?

since they are just dreaming

[dark compass]

When you revert the incarnon form, does the unspent ammo return?

Nothing is left to rescue

[woven coyote]

There is a point of no return

The holdfasts almost lost themselves and became angels

[tall echo]

the human is already long dead

[woven coyote]

The remaining holdfasts anyway

[dark compass]

My way of explaining it is cooler

[dawn galleon]

Both of which is interesting to think about, as the void essentially becomes a combination of everything that's inside of it, it should be possible to save everything from it,
but they pretty clearly stated point of no return, which makes me wonder if point of no return was used metaphorically or literally

[dark compass]

My interpretation is that the soul is consumed and the "body" is left to go crazy

Alternatively you can see it as mind and soul

[dawn galleon]

you mean as in the person itself is gone, but the capability to comprehend still exists?

[tall echo]

"break 'em down, body and soul"
-cavalero

[dark compass]

Well yeah it's the incarnon form, its charged with the soul of the victim

Ammo is unspent that's why it's attacking us

[dawn galleon]

but every incarnon form returns eventually back to it's original state once the void power is gone

which would go back to the saving part of the human <.<'

[tall echo]

incarnons aren't the same as angels or holdfasts

[dark compass]

Well guns don't have souls

We eat enemies for fuel

Some of the holdfasts got eaten themselves

[tall echo]

incarnons are regular guns infused with void, the holdfasts are memories given form by the void

[dawn galleon]

yea, but the concept probably has similarities?

[dark compass]

The analogy implies you becoming the ammo

Because unlike the gun, you have a soul

And if you force the reverse process, soul ammo is deleted whole anyways

Because it's a void thing that sends things to the void

Felarx transforms into two void corrupted birds it was used to shoot at originally

[dark compass]

I think it works perfectly

[dawn galleon]

Perfection can only be claimed within a reasonable scope, but no analogy can be perfect, that kinda, ruins the point of analogies

[dark compass]

Don't go nitpicking THAT now

Or I'm going to send a very sad cat reaction gif

It's perfect

[dawn galleon]

okay ;-; it's perfect xd

[dark compass]

It's perfect to ME

[hoary wasp]

Does it change the lore?

[dark compass]

its a permanent name change and is associated with different points in her life

[hoary wasp]

I feel like i want to choose margulis cause she's the prettiest and i'm a gooner but idk

[dark compass]

skins can be customized later, and there are even extra more you can buy

Lotus as Margulis is kinda messed up ngl

[hoary wasp]

If i choose lotus can i have the helmet removed or no

[dark compass]

its what Ballas made her into, not very... ethical

[dark compass]

you can buy any skin later

theres even extra skins that arent in this choice

you basically pick a starter skin and a name

[hoary wasp]

I'm broke

[loud oriole]

-# that is your (adoptive) mother!!

[hoary wasp]

I've made my decision

[strange plinth]

platinum is easy to get via trading with other players anyway

[pallid spoke]

It does change her dialogue in quests after New War, but it's more flavour than anything important.

[restive river]

You’re picking who leads anyway, they’re all still in there lol

[loud oriole]

3 raccoons in a trench coat or something like that

[tall echo]

that's the worst reason, your free trial of being will be removed for it

[pallid spoke]

I thought it was three kobolds in a trench coat.

[tall echo]

that's the furry/scalie version

[pallid spoke]

Well, I see a meme and sometimes I can't immediately tell if it's a parody of something.

[tall echo]

I'd say dnd version but tbh the overlap is weirdly big so

[restive river]

I hadn’t seen what they said and thought “pfft what could they have said?”
They did in fact say the worse reasoning-

[pallid spoke]

I don't remember it very well, but it felt like it was more meant to be DnD themed.

But eh.

[restive river]

It is

Kobolds are more so a d&d thing

Yes technically they fall under that umbrella but y’know

[tall echo]

it is but kobold stuff generally gets adopted by the furries quickly

it's inevitable

[hoary wasp]

I was joking

[tall echo]

[restive river]

Better be or it’s the deep void

[stiff fable]

Much better to pick Margulis because you're NTRing Ballas

[tall echo]

straight to wally

[stiff fable]

Went back and did some Simaris scans for completion, is it just me or does the Corrupted Ancient entry have a Gara teaser

[restive river]

Only good reason
That or you somehow extrapolated a lot from the Margulis sections and want your tenno to feel more comforted

[restive river]

Oh?

[stiff fable]

Yeah, a Tenno shows up to save the Lorist from the infested, and it attacks with a flash of light and the sound of a thousand crystals shattering

[restive river]

:O

[stiff fable]

4->1 combo and Gara's ephemera flashbanging people again

[restive river]

I could see that maybe being mirage or even citrine
Ofc citrine didn’t uh. Even exist

[restive river]

Wait is it doing that again?? Lol

[stiff fable]

I'm pretty sure this was added before the Plains

nah they fixed it but this was written nearly a decade ago

[restive river]

Damn

[tall echo]

gara's passive is also just. blinding enemies

[dark compass]

Lore accurate

[tall echo]

I should play gara again(I will not)

[celest needle]

What do the grineer even do on Saturn?

Besides having ships there
What is its purpose?

[pale cedar]

“The historically well-travelled merchant shipping lanes of Saturn are now dominated by Grineer blockades. Heavy military influence populates this area where Grineer Commanders believe they have a strategic foothold on travel throughout the System. Under the safeguard of patrolling Galleons, the Grineer ceaselessly train their expanding forces, making the region nigh impossible to overtake.”

[celest needle]

Thanks

[dark compass]

kobolds as mythological creatures have absolutely nothing to do with dnd kobolds

so yeah it is pretty much purely a dnd thing

folk kobold is borderline interchangeable with something like gnome or elf

the authors just thought that the name sounds cool

and have managed to gaslight the entire world into thinking that cobolds are weird scaly creatures

[tall echo]

yea the original meaning has been oddly forgotten by now

[dark compass]

at least they didnt manage to copyright the name

[dire current]

Saturn is also the location of Saturn Six, which is considered to be one of the Grineer's highest security prisons... or it was, until the Wolf Of Saturn Six escaped.

[flat skiff]

Grendel is hotter than ember

[stiff fable]

Speaking of we need a jailbreak mission on Saturn Six

[tall echo]

like we cause one or prevent one? the grineer aren't generally known for just locking up defectors...

[stiff fable]

Cause one. They could easily have a scientist or treasure hunter locked up that we want out

[tall echo]

less unlikely but still not a high chance

[humble sierra]

You're describing rescue missions

[strange plinth]

give saturn rescue missions a unique tileset
maybe change the objectives a bit
like jupiter sabotage

[brittle siren]

https://youtu.be/9bO_VByg0Vg

[stiff fable]

hey yeah I noticed that

also the new theme slaps

why is it not in my somachord

The best part of the song is the little bit of Koumei's theme

[humble sierra]

Isn't it?

It's definitely in the album so I'd assume there's a somachord for it

[stiff fable]

it's not

It's supposed to be but it's not

[wise eagle]

So is the Excalibur prime we use in the old peace the same one in the opening part of the erra quest?

[stiff fable]

almost certainly not

[fast dew]

multiple excal primes exist

[stiff fable]

The Excalibur in Old Peace was mission killed (the damage was so severe that it proved lethal to the Operator) and you abandoned it

[fast dew]

[tropic echo]

an Orbiter gets shot down in the tutorial, (which is something that was kept in the revamp) implying that we were NOT meant to be boarding Ordis's vessel initially
what would happen if we werent? would we EVER meet Ordis by then? was the initial ship ours or someone else's? was anyone piloting it? etc...

[woven coyote]

Wasnt an orbiter just a landing craft

Orbiter is the whole big thing with all the storage

Landing craft is the thing we enter and leave missions on

[stiff fable]

It might still be tied to a specific orbiter though

Ordis seems to be tied to the lander in that scene

To answer one question, the secret cephalon messages have Ordis say he was planning to self-destruct before the Lotus signalled him

so if you had gone to a new ship, there'd probably be a friendly but boring cephalon and most of the standard ship functions would be enabled from the start

The back rooms would still be locked, and the Codex would be full

[strange plinth]

the one that got blown up probably piloted by automated systems, sent there by lotus
ordis. might be unique, might not. though he mentions waiting for us a few times, which would link that second landing craft/orbiter to us

[stiff fable]

You'd probably need to purchase a somachord from somewhere

.....but also off-screen Ordis would have self-destructed, so

[stiff fable]

also iirc he mentions his systems were plundered by the Grineer which is the explanation for why ship systems need segments to restart

but the Orbiter proper should have been in stealth mode or exile mode somewhere

[strange plinth]

granted, there's ~1k years for the orbiter to be found and plundered

[stiff fable]

trueeee

actually they should have considered having the new VA do that dialogue

have the orbiter exit exile mode and rendezvous in low earth orbit

oh hey I just brainwaved something

So, DE's been making a lot of content from recycled material going back to Citrine

Which uses two old defense maps and a connecting tunnel

Follie's Hunt is Vesper Relay, Koumei is the Cetus map, etc

Awakening has a unique map

Could DE set a regular mission or quest there?

Now here's the reach: is it going to turn out we were at the tower hunting someone?

....like Nitohk?

[strange plinth]

hmm

[minor holly]

nitokh = garuda?

[stiff fable]

no

[humble sierra]

Mildly related but a veteran told me there was going to be a mission where you play as Ordis waiting for the Operator after the Orokin's Fall, skipping through centuries as he maintains the Orbiter, activates its defenses, etc.

[humble sierra]

I NEED IT AS A CAPTURA RAAAAH PLEASE DE

[stiff fable]

As a prime Warframe Garuda existed before the Orokin collapse, meaning Garuda is not Nitohk

[minor holly]

made in her image then?

[stiff fable]

yep

Like Gyre to Gyra

[humble sierra]

Garuda has absolutely no lore at the moment— we're getting it this year confirmed (more news at the next Devstream) so people are thinking she might be tied to Nitokh (who they seem to be setting up)

[minor holly]

are we allowed to drop pics here

one of garuda's ability icons resemble the staff executor nitokh holds

[strange plinth]

blood altar, yes

[minor holly]

and roathe does not seem to know what became of her in the end

[strange plinth]

they have similarities, but nothing outright

a commission or made in honor of Nitokh seems the most likely thing

[stiff fable]

It's like how Gara was made in response to Nihil

Gara is still not Nihil

[strange plinth]

mm, indeed
and Protea is not Parvos

[woven coyote]

Vaguley remember steve mentioning that idea

[strange plinth]

is that the same post that called ordis's body the "Host Migrator"

[woven coyote]

Might have been a tennocon or one of the AmAs

[dark compass]

They can't be related

Nitohk starts with N, Garuda has M on her forehead

They should patch it and replace M on her debuff icon and her forehead with N

[lean garden]

must have been smoking that nestlewood

[lean garden]

steve wrote a short story from ordis's pov for tnw

[late zinc]

how did cephalon cy knew that tenno is in trouble during the new war?

[fast dew]

Yeah cuz he got kidnapped lol

[fast dew]

Chances are ordis reached out

[late zinc]

ouh so ordis calling cy for helping operator?

[minor holly]

if you look closely at Uriel's helmet

[fast dew]

They're all on the weave together, so they can contact each other pretty easily

[minor holly]

the same symbol is inscribed at at the base

the relation is there

[fast dew]

Uhh. Where?

Can you get a screenshot lol

[minor holly]

can I post it here

[fast dew]

Yeah

[minor holly]

or is there a specific channel for it

[fast dew]

And Qorvex isn't Albrecht

[lean garden]

And theres no such as the queen of England

[late zinc]

and xaku isn't deimos

[fast dew]

Well not anymore

[minor holly]

there's that same mark if you stare at the top center of his head

[fast dew]

I uh. Do not see it

Ah i. Think thats the result of the symmetry tool when modelling/texturing it

[lean garden]

this?

[strange plinth]

yea i see what you mean but i can also see how that's just unintentional texturing

[minor holly]

yep

given the relationship with roathe...

[fast dew]

Ehhhh

If they wanted it to be a direct reference i would think they'd make it more obvious

[twin wigeon]

inded

[minor holly]

I could see how an argument could be made by her commissioning ballas a prime out of arrogance and possibly boredom, but also being sentenced to it for her plotting

[fast dew]

And. Less accidental texture

[strange plinth]

i'd also argue that Uriel has even less of a connection to Nitokh than Garuda does
which is, currently, next to none

[fast dew]

Executors generally cannot be executed

Cuz. That requires all executors

[late zinc]

when i'm idling at orbiter, ordis mention about kobuchi, even playing koumei mission is about cheese

so did vay hek and ordis tried consuming kobuchi at cetus?

[twin wigeon]

lol no

[humble sierra]

NO MY STATUE IS GONE

[restive river]

Watch Garuda’s lore relate to Tormis

[fast dew]

WHAT HAPPENED

[restive river]

WHAT
WHY

[strange plinth]

horrific day

[fast dew]

Also hello DJ ROM

[dark compass]

It... Escaped

[humble sierra]

Oh didn't load, teehee

[strange plinth]

oh ok

[restive river]

YOU

[fast dew]

Tee hee

[dark compass]

[twin wigeon]

wtf

[restive river]

Evil

[strange plinth]

DJ RoM and Nitokh cannot exist at the same place at the same time
coincidence?

[fast dew]

I still need to go glitch my Loid floof into the skybox

[humble sierra]

👀

[restive river]

Omg…

[minor holly]

like I said, with her plotting, and Roathe saying that their authorities (the Executors) are vested into them by the deathless, titular Emperor of the Orokin

if the Emperor wanted her punished

[dark compass]

The watchful protector

[late zinc]

if my tenno tries kobuchi would it be bad to consume it?

[restive river]

Nitokh x DJ Rom

[minor holly]

the six would have no say in it

[humble sierra]

We were looking too closely at Garuda, she's been a red herring this whole time

[fast dew]

Forever the diligent servant

[restive river]

That’s seven emperors

[strange plinth]

most likely seven emperors, don't remember if we have an exact count other than 'more than one'

[fast dew]

Ehhh, its. A lot different from a rebellion. They didn't even know she was behind it until the end. Oh, and that it was ultimately blamed entirely on Roathe lol

[strange plinth]

Roathe's disappearance makes for a good scapegoat
and that's if Nitokh would be punished for the Anarchs at all

[fast dew]

You can't exactly kidnap an executor, even as one yourself

[restive river]

Doesn’t Roathe say emperors

[humble sierra]

'more than one'

[strange plinth]

yea, its plural whenever they're mentioned
but i don't think how many is ever specified

[fast dew]

The ambiguous amount of dead emperors™

[restive river]

Dang it really does not say
That’s annoying

[humble sierra]

Did Amir get new voice lines? I swear I havent heard some of these

And I specifically listened to a lot of his for a project I did

[fast dew]

Check the wiki, they usually have dates for when lines are uploaded
-# check the history of a file

[humble sierra]

Also got the "You'll let me in little piggy" line from Chains of Harrow for that project, before Old Peace's release, so I instantly clocked that it was used before

[fast dew]

Yeah lol I noticed it last night while trying to explain why the tenno don't age [cryo]

[humble sierra]

Was also playing the quest at 4am before I went to work so it was absolutely peak

[fast dew]

Real..

[late zinc]

nidus prim

how did stalker and hunhow helped drifter for hunting archons during new war?