lore-discussion

[ocean geyser]

They probably did one of the things you said not to do lmao

Either the early confession or the argument confession

[fast dew]

Love that Marie does this tbh

[tall echo]

One of the few good things about the triad

[fast dew]

Mhm

[median elbow]

the final part of the hex quest shows that all warframe s, by default, have a parazon

which means it's not some kind of tech implement it's a part of the infested body

hmmmmm

reminds me of a guy who had his uhhh

distictive organ mounted on his wrist because the doctors needed to keep it fed blood before surgery

it did work i nthe end, he had it installed back on his groin and while the sensation was worse it did work

[pale cedar]

Nothing says it can’t be tech implemented into the frame at creation

[median elbow]

i don't think big Al was giving them out to all protoframes

[opaque zenith]

On a slight add-on: Parazons came around in the old blood update, with the first non-lich interaction in the Jackal boss. But yeah, being in the protos might imply Entrati give them out as a freebie or it comes free with the xbox infestation

[median elbow]

i assume it came with the infestation since it's essentially a USB port between the users mind and the terminal

and everyone else seemingly doesn't use them

[fast dew]

This is pretty common tbh

[opaque zenith]

But parazons are NOT that! Do not the hidden smart blade!

[fast dew]

Its not unheard of, at least to me
-# perhaps my deep dives into gender affirming surgeries went too far

[pale cedar]

Why not? It’s standard for a Warframe

[ocean geyser]

The Orokin deadass taught the helminth to make a knife that can hack things

[median elbow]

i mean it's a good blood source that's very easy to access

[opaque zenith]

Balls: "So there's this assassins game and this mech with parkour game and there's some blades and knifes in it-"
Hmint: *Grumbling noises*

[fast dew]

Hmint

[opaque zenith]

Shortening words is funny sometimes

[fast dew]

Blls

[ocean geyser]

Bas

[fast dew]

Abrkt

[pale cedar]

Okin

[fast dew]

Ld

[ocean geyser]

Dare i say “lid”

[fast dew]

Nup, its identifiably Loid as Ld

Ncrld

[ocean geyser]

Lts…

[opaque zenith]

y and rj

[ocean geyser]

Incomprehensible

[fast dew]

Elria, Gmtru, Mthr

[pale cedar]

I find it annoying when people shorten a word by just removing a single letter

[fast dew]

Prts, Vlcr, fthr

[ocean geyser]

Nemsis

😈

[fast dew]

Im trying to get words shortened down but audibly similar enough

[pale cedar]

Tmis

[fast dew]

Nkthk

Scrn

[opaque zenith]

Kal garson

[random flint]

Executor Karishh

Executor Ballas

Executor Scarne

Executor Tormis

Executor Tuvul

Executor Avantus

Executor Nitokh

Are these right names of 7 orok kings?

[fast dew]

Tvl

[fast dew]

Orokin executors, and yeah

[random flint]

Damn

[pale cedar]

Executors aren’t the Emperors

[random flint]

No, like the kings

[fast dew]

Nor are they all kings, 2 are women lol

[random flint]

Oh damnnm

[random flint]

Ik that karishh got eaten by grendel 😭, thats wildn

[fast dew]

Avantus and Nitokh, both are women

[random flint]

Wow

So what was uriel?

A janitor or smthn ?

[opaque zenith]

Also Ballas would be too, if Yareli wasn't a (justified) disrespectfull prankster

[pale cedar]

A Warframe

[random flint]

Wow

So these 7 orokin kings are reffered to 7 deadky sins?

[pale cedar]

They aren’t kings

[random flint]

Cuz ballas ig he is pride and nitokh is lust?

[fast dew]

-# Nitokh is the first, Avantus is the second

[random flint]

Whatever they are

[random flint]

@fast dew

[pale cedar]

They’re Executors like the title says

[opaque zenith]

Executors, pretty self explanatory

[random flint]

Yepp

[fast dew]

No clue

[random flint]

Oo ok

[fast dew]

They've never specified

[random flint]

Hmmm cuz karish looks gluttonous and ballas maybe envy too

[fast dew]

Eh

Im impartial to the idea

[random flint]

Yea

[random flint]

Hmmm

SPACE MOM TELL THE LORE

[opaque zenith]

Ballas have 2 trailers talking about lust tho. Perssonally still think it's pride or envy but there's that argument

[pale cedar]

The issue with the idea is the fact there’s Executors who fit multiple sins

[opaque zenith]

Also there's a lot of "Uriel's" per se. we have the Uriel serum, the Uriel army, Grand Carnis yada-yada Roathe, Uriel Prime.

And if it wasn't confusing enough, there's the 4 important E's:
Emperors, Executors, Executioners, Entrati

[tall echo]

Executioners aren't important

[fast dew]

They can be

And id say they could be when it comes for Nihil and his position

[tall echo]

Not on the same level as the literal rulers

[fast dew]

Nah, but hes still important, especially when it comes to clearing up the misconception

[tall echo]

The misconception that executioners are important

Joke

[opaque zenith]

Sure, but still an important figure like the Entrati family I refered too

[tall echo]

Not really

[opaque zenith]

Also Nihil is literaly talking with the seven in Gara's trailer, seems like somebody with some influence for me

[tall echo]

Like, one shaped the entire technological progress of the empire, the other is just.
points at surprisingly justified killer "Kill him."

[tall echo]

He got openly mocked by ballas for being whiny

[pale cedar]

Ballas did what he wanted but not in the way he wanted

[opaque zenith]

So, if you're not convinced by the lore, there's always the "important as in appears in game events" card

[tall echo]

Honestly you could call me the netherlands with how many hills I'm choosing to die on

[tall echo]

That's less convincing

[fast dew]

Ehh

Nihil had a whole nightwave, responsible for most cephalons

Huge part in the empire

[opaque zenith]

Reason enough to keep him in the initial message, which was about confusing "important title's" in the lore

[fast dew]

He pioneered the worst execution method to the orokin

[opaque zenith]

About Nihil's actual importance, not much of a concern, for me at least

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tapping-arm-cat-asking-for-pets-cat-tap-tapping-arm-cat-cat-tap-arm-gif-5435997040648294499

Ballas we have a problem

[peak ether]

did he pioneer it?

[pale cedar]

They’re important in this the sense Someone had to be there to serve the 7’s judgment

[fast dew]

I mean, its his program, so you'd assume so

[peak ether]

i just thought that it was something he did not something that he pioneered

[sturdy flume]

Is there a lore reason to why the commandeered primes are so large or is that just gameplay shenanigans

[dark compass]

Gameplay I assume

[peak ether]

probably the latter

[dark compass]

So it would be easier to follow them

Like how in dark souls literally everyone is taller than you

[pale cedar]

So you're not confused and hitting the wrong target

[dark compass]

Almost every enemy in warframe is also taller and/or bulkier than you

Also they're frames

Maybe you'll confuse your friend for Ash

[cunning ore]

Yeah then Roathe in our hand somehow be smaller

😭 Captura pain, adios.

[dark compass]

Don't tell him

He is very insecure

[opaque zenith]

Imagine a squad with 4 ash's and the enemy one cast the 4, a sensible feature tbh

[cunning ore]

Like once Natah tell Ballas "You...small"

||i'm sorry but i laughed at that part...everytime||

[dark compass]

"I expected it to be... Bigger"

[cunning ore]

It midnight, i cried and laughed at the same time

[peak ether]

felt bad for a bit during that sequence, like damn didnt have to go at him that hard, with their mastery over biology he clearly chose that size for a reason...

[cunning ore]

At that time, it not only small anymore

It vanished

[peak ether]

shame cant use the its cold excuse, they were practically next to the sun

[cunning ore]

Yea 😭

[dark compass]

Orokin were like greek statues come to life, in all senses of that description

[cunning ore]

Yea so i try to draw him in Greek way

[zenith ore]

When I was talking to roathe he mentioned some girl and something about endless hunger, she said something about killing the orikin? I don't remember. Who is she exactly?

Messaging him to be precise

[sick bobcat]

"As immortal as we are we too will die with the sun...thats where I come in."
-Gigarecht Entrati

[narrow pendant]

Loid; depict ballas as the soy wojack and ME as the gigachad

[tall echo]

that's not very specific, but I'm p sure you mean him talking about nitokh? one of the seven executors?

[thorny stone]

this is the best thing to happen in warframe. She’s JUST IN THE RELAY NOW

[peak ether]

congrats on getting the good ending for her

[strange turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/titanfall-data-knife-gif-12935739965540463038

[misty helm]

It would have been cool if she actually had been there when the whole Hex content was added

Nvm

That would not make much sense

[peak ether]

wouldn't work because it depends if you help her out

the bad ending for her is she doesnt get to the future, and just straight up deletes her kim account

[misty helm]

I don't think it's that, though. The loop hasn't been finished yet; the changes to the experienced timeline have not been "made" yet

[thorny stone]

nooooo 💔

[misty helm]

Nvm that neither. I'm getting confused by my* own stupidity

[strange turtle]

Uriel was a Warframe that all of Roathe’s personal military unit got turned into, and then he got turned into the Proto of by Albrecht later.

Roathe was Nitokh’s boytoy and the “Vice Regent Grand Carnus” (Orokin military leader) under her, who was also the Orokin military leader and “Grand Regent”

[rigid bramble]

hello so i completed the hex, what was all the deaths about if we rewinded it all?

would they happen again?

[zenith ore]

Hmmmm, maybe

[tall echo]

without us yes

[rigid bramble]

do the text we do matters?

like is there a specific choice we have to choose?

[zenith ore]

It tells you more about the lore and all, I think?

[rigid bramble]

what is this chemistry?

why are some chats golden sometimes, are they positively affecting ?

[worn cypress]

is alad v the leader or corpses ?

[tall echo]

yes

[tall echo]

he's a member of the board of directors

[tall echo]

yes and no

[worn cypress]

whos the leader

[tall echo]

there's no singular leader

[rigid bramble]

iirc there are multiple factions within the corpus

[worn cypress]

like what

[tall echo]

they're mostly unnamed but one example would be ergo glast's group

perrin sequence

[ocean geyser]

Oh uou mean KIM

[strange turtle]

There’s the Board of Directors, who together lead the wider Corpus faction for the most part, while also having their own companies and factions within the Corpus

[ocean geyser]

In regards to Kim chats? YES they matter
A lot
As being a reasonable individual is what gets you closer with the Hex

After all
You can’t save them “unless you know them”

[strange turtle]

There’s also Parvos Granum, the Corpus founder who is highly respected in their society and faith

[woven coyote]

Anyocorp is the one we interact with the most due to the flying mod being such a pain

[ocean geyser]

Every prefix you see before a Corpus unit’s name “Juno, Terra” etc
Isn’t like how the grineer work how it’s all different corps
The corpus groups are literally controlled by different Board members

For example
Nef Anyo: Terra, Scrofa and AnyoCorp Index Units

Alad V: Vapos

And the spaceborne ones like the Juno (ship tilesets) and Taro/Axio/Vorac/Orm (Railjack) can be working under anyone, but usually it’s Parvos Granum

I have a feeling you haven’t played the Deadlock Protocol

[woven coyote]

https://youtu.be/76pK9G8CVP0?si=8Vezpjph-pWFLSYC

GROFIT!

[ocean geyser]

GROFIT!!

[restive river]

GROFIT!!!!

[ocean geyser]

But yeah
Deadlock Protocol gives a good insight on how the Board functions (kinda)
Provided you pay attention at least

[strange turtle]

-# grofit

[keen basin]

So do we have like. Definitive Lore™ on the Luminaries? I know there are some details like Lua being associated with death but are there actual stories?

[normal mountain]

Lyon told me some stuff once
Sadly, I don't remember it

[restive river]

Lua and Sol are the gods in the religion of Dualism, an old Earth religion (relative to the Origin System), it’s an analog to christianity for the most part
I don’t think there’s anything like. Definitive definitive since they aren’t “real”.

[keen basin]

Yeah I got the Christianity... Reference. But they also talk about Solstice which is Pagan. So clearly it's a mix of real world influences and DE's lore

[restive river]

Oh for sure

I find it interesting that there isn’t one true perception of Sol and Lua, from what I’ve gathered their “jobs” or what they represent largely stay the same but their genders are interchangeable, one culture may have Sol as a woman, another as a man

[north jolt]

GROFIT! is a underrated meme imo

[misty helm]

I don't know if an analogy to Christianity, but pretty much to any dualistic cosmology out there, like Zoroastrianism.

[restive river]

I mean it’s pretty clearly an analog to christianity in some aspects lol

Presumably the cross on the goth outfit has ties to Dualism (what else could it even have ties to lol)

[misty helm]

Except in the fact of having two main deities, which aren't necessariy morally oppposed (contrary to Christianity) nor have a triad of sorts in said divine conondrum; neither a messianic figure... nor a central, monotheistic hierarchy

[keen basin]

all the terms used to refer to the clergy are Christian (Cardinal, Father, Sister, Mother Superior, Church, Cathedral, etc.)

[misty helm]

Yes; which only makes up part of Dualism; that doesn't mean it's a direct analogy for Christianty, just because it's using the terminology of ecclesiastical hierarchies... At that point, it should be better said that it's inspired in said ecclesiastical hierarchies, as to project a familiar vision of Dualism as an institution too.

[strange turtle]

Also The Crusades

[misty helm]

It also has various referencial elements of Judaism too

[keen basin]

How did I miss the crusades 😭

[strange turtle]

When Marie engages with her foes upon the battlefield, I believe it is one of two things: either, she is having a bit of fun, play-acting as an ancient crusader, imagining herself in the shining armor of a Knight of Sol -

[normal mountain]

There were two sides to the Crusades
which people conveniently seem to forget

[keen basin]

Oh yeah crusader doesn't mean "someone who took part in The Crusades™"

[strange turtle]

Yeah, but considering it’s a french priest talking about a nun in a cathedral of the “Orthodoxy”, knights and a historical crusader, them having book verses inspired by christianity’s and the complete and utter lack of any references to anything resembling islam or the middle east beyond the idea of the crusade

I somehow doubt they were talking about the other side

[past halo]

Y'know I always wonder, as I do Conjunction Survival to get the woofer who is the Lone Guardian? A hallucination? A scout for Dominus Thrax?

[iron pond]

Could xaku hurt tenno with him being void i know the tenno pretty much immortal just wondering how he would interact being void himself

[humble sierra]

It seems to be an actual Dax rather than a Duviri Dax.

[humble sierra]

Them*, Xaku is nonbinary as a result of being multiple people

But I don't think operators take extra damage from the void or anything

[strange turtle]

Them and we don’t know for sure if stuff being Void can do anything on its own but probably not.

They got thrown into the Void which is usually very dangerous without protection and were fine aside from getting stuck into a memory loop for a bit

[cosmic badge]

A good way to think about is that one venom meme about their pronouns

[restive river]

Xaku’s they/them, they are explicitly neither he nor she, functionally nonbinary
And no, just cause they have mastery over the void doesn’t mean they can hurt the tenno

Ballas stabbed us for instance, it didn’t do much but it did clearly hurt
You don’t need to be of or have mastery of the void to hurt the tenno

[loud oriole]

we're immortal (to an extent) but still confined to normal damage attempts

[restive river]

We’re not immortal, we’re just really hard to actually kill

Our only instances of Tenno death come from old age, a tenno blowing their frame up (Gara (if she even had one)) and whatever happened to Mirage’s tenno (Lotus mourns them so they did die)

Also we did die in our fight with Adis, he revived us
It’s possible Tenno can only die from old age or from enough pain when using transference

[loud oriole]

and technically Rell, but his was more of passing the torch

[restive river]

He’s the instance of old age.

He transferred to his Harrow and sealed Wally in there with him, he never had a cryopod cause Margulis kicked him out, so his meatbody kept aging and died while his consciousness remained within Harrow
Until we come along and free him, taking up the mantle against Wally

[normal mountain]

Stabbed us with a blade designed to kill Sentients, which are weak to the Void
I do wish there was more confirmation on how Paracesis is supposed to be lethal to Sentients, but my logic leads me to believe it has the capability to channel Void power much like our Amps

[restive river]

It’s meant to be a tease for Duviri, maybe it’s some manifestation of Teshin in a weird way

[woven coyote]

Think it's just a refernce to how circulus always manifested apparitions

[restive river]

Since the sword itself doesn’t deal void I could see it interacting with the sentients in a different way, Ballas had a hand in their creation so it could be a built in backdoor of sorts
But that’s speculation

[restive river]

Was that an always thing?
Also that only happens during the process itself, which the Thrax aren’t there due to that even
They’re there cause Lua was in the Void for so long

Stuff from Duviri kinda just slips out in some spots, only in the void or in a place like Lua tho
The Orowyrms in the tunnel of love for instance

[normal mountain]

Or the Orowyrms that appear when the Railjack is traveling to a Void Storm

man, Orowyrms sure are popular sights in the Void, aren't they?

[restive river]

DE really enjoyed teasing Duviri lol

Teshin’s blades at the door

I remember when Operator could be used in the Dormizone 😔

[ocean geyser]

If anything it just sounds like they died from transference overload after their frames got destroyed

[peak ether]

this was my favourite teaser because it only appeared with drifter such a nice touch

[restive river]

Maybe
I like the idea that enough pain can just cause a tenno to go braindead, we know our tenno can feel what the frame feels and feeling your entire body get disintegrated probably isn’t good
But it’s probably any type of massive pain

Like our Tenno died in the Old Peace from being squished too hard

[humble sierra]

I remember when this happened when you had Operator equipped but went into Dormizone Captura

[restive river]

By the void
Kill it with stug incarnon

[peak ether]

This is how Ballas sees the Tenno and you can’t convince me otherwise

[woven coyote]

the conjunction and manifestations definetely predate lua being put in the void

[restive river]

No ik but the Thrax are due to it being in the void lol

[fast dew]

The paracesis' sheath being decorated with obols is always something I find interesting

[restive river]

Speaking of
I’m still curious what’s up with the void mirror

[fast dew]

Mm, might be a entrati thing, iirc Albrecht has the smaller one and blueprints (?) For it on the walls of the sanctum

[restive river]

They’re literally all over deimos lol

In the underground portion

[fast dew]

Onn the left side, there's. The smaller one

[fast dew]

Ik but like I also found one in the labs and I thought that was cool

It had wally void instead of void void

[restive river]

The circulus one is particularly odd cause the Void-Earth, the Rainbow Connection and the mysteries other Void object

[fast dew]

That one is HUGE too

[restive river]

There’s a clear connection between real-space and the void here

Like why is there a big void hole relative to where Earth would be in the void?

What happens if Earth goes into the Void with that too

[fast dew]

Wonder if it was an attempt to. No, earth doesn't have infestation does it?

[peak ether]

It did then Ballas sent Saryn

[restive river]

Aren’t the Infested in the fate dream like
Still really there,

[peak ether]

I’m basing it off the trailer, he says “I intend to reclaim it now from the spores and ruins” when talking about earth

[restive river]

I mean yes a lot of it is gone

[normal mountain]

But as Fisher Hai-Luk says,
"Hello! It is my aim to ensure you fully enjoy your time upon the water, which is absolutely not filled with unknowable horror."

[worn cypress]

am i the only one who cast and cry is stuck in my mind ?

[normal mountain]

Nope!

Only the one in my head has overlapping commentary from Protoss unimpressed by the pylon count

[worn cypress]

what ?

[normal mountain]

StarCraft

"You must construct additional pylons"

[cunning sand]

im pretty sure this has been noted before but i wonder if the similarity between the hunhullus' structure and hunhow will be explored

[stiff fable]

there probably isn't much actual similarity

Most Sentient designs have a fairly similar vibe, geometric bone shapes

The Hunhullus takes that and shapes it to look like a human

[cunning sand]

sure but no other sentients have the "halo" that links behind their bodies, the silhouette generally seems quite similar to me

[stiff fable]

Hunhow's the only full-size Sentient we've seen, too

[cunning sand]

hunhow isnt full-size, most sentients in the origin system are broken off pieces of him iirc

[stiff fable]

we do see him in full size during Octavia's Anthem

cuz he's digitally projecting himself

[lean garden]

the destroyed plains sentient has more similar architecture

[strange plinth]

i just want to know why the hunhullus uses vessel assets

[lean garden]

the hunhullus is a sentient weapon, which is controlled by a sentient

hunhow is a sentient

[lean garden]

face

[strange plinth]

ok, just the face, but still
why is it the same

[stiff fable]

It might be as simple as Albrecht taking the design to use for his Vessels, or vice-versa

[cunning sand]

(reply to bauthesaurus) yes i know that and im thinking, taking it at face value, it could be modelled after him potentially but theres currently no evidence other than similarity in structure (the aesthetic doesnt matter here)

[lean garden]

de lob reuse asset

[stiff fable]

okay yes that's the Doylist explanation

though I will laugh if it turns out the Hunhullus was an anti-Wally weapon

with a void weakness

[lean garden]

I'd argue that the similarity in structure isnt that strong of a point, as it could very well just be a common structure for non-ship large sentients

we know both hunhow and the plains sentient had those arches

and the hunhullus is just a big fat sentient construct

imagine if those are just stability fins to keep big fat sentients upright lol

[woven coyote]

it is probably just general sentient design, like look at their icon

[lean garden]

funny enough the large ship sentients dont have that kinda wings

[stiff fable]

the murexes, yah

though if you look close there's something there....

[lean garden]

but the smaller ship sentients do?

[narrow pendant]

hunhow has

[fast dew]

Always forget how interesting hunhow looks

[narrow pendant]

hun's little how

being the faction icon

enviromental storytelling

[twin wigeon]

always forget how similar hunhow looks to a vomval trumpet

[fast dew]

Hun's little how is killing me

[narrow pendant]

imagine that part of their body was used for their reproduction and their faction icon was a d pick all along

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/tummy-fat-pouch-funny-belly-gif-25437847

[fast dew]

The flub perhaps

[dark compass]

Primordial sentient pouch

Where all the greatness and terribleness is stored

[narrow pendant]

the adaptation is stored in the pouch

[humble sierra]

Any tips on how I can improve?

[fast dew]

Mm, if you got the layers, their little. Hair curl in. The front? Or the sideburns thing they got going on

BUT THEYRE SK CUTE

[narrow pendant]

reminds me of that guy from the muppets 😭

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-gif-20237787

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-beaker-shrug-i-dont-know-whatever-gif-23889479

[fast dew]

I really need to go grind follie

[ocean geyser]

I need to do this cause the new node unmastered Venus

[tall echo]

You haven't yet?

[ocean geyser]

Nope

[dark compass]

I haven't played it either

I'm too busy playing actually good videogames

[ocean geyser]

Ive been doing ESO lmfao
I also want to do it with my friendos

[dark compass]

Just like Rebb

We both are deadlocking

[fast dew]

Ive been. Trying but is her game mode supposed to drop parts?

[ocean geyser]

Im pretty sure they’re still 5%

or did they boost it??

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-withrock-gif-27341353

Isnt that a lower rate than like. The bloodshed sigil

[dark compass]

Citrine finally has a worthy opponent

[drowsy saddle]

Yeah... She's got a 5% per part, and there's stuff like syndicate medallions and credit packs in the drop table

Frankly the 3k endo is a pity reward

[fast dew]

Am. Am I supposed to be getting those

[dark compass]

Yeah

Rewards include medallions

[fast dew]

. Lemme do another run

[drowsy saddle]

Funnily enough follie's hunt might be a worthwhile standing farm, particularly since medallions bypass daily limits

[tall echo]

Yeah no not even remotely

You get ONE low tier medallion of any of the 6 syndicates at random it's not worthwhile

I got 8 medallions for syndicates that hate me and nothing else when I farmed her

[drowsy saddle]

Low tier? Fairly sure I've been getting the higher tier ones?

[tall echo]

It's either the lowest on regular or middle on SP

[drowsy saddle]

Should be bumped up a tier

[tall echo]

They should've added an ability to trade in medallions bc what am I supposed to do with 6 new loka ones

600 standing is not gonna fix this

[fast dew]

Oh yay I got Follie's systems

[humble sierra]

We need Protoframe muppets ngl

[fast dew]

They would be so funny lookin

Mm, reckon it would be easier to grind plat than grind Follie

[humble sierra]

It's the same drop rate as Koumei and Jade I think

[tall echo]

Nah

The pity shop is actually decent if you farm in SP

If you don't farm in SP start farming in SP

[humble sierra]

I was fairly lucky, I got her parts before I got enough pity currency to theoretically buy her

[fast dew]

Eyeing my r5 arcane energise knowing that the next event will have it

[humble sierra]

Why is he so blue wth

[fast dew]

HEHEHEH OH THATS DELIGHTFUL

[drowsy saddle]

Dabadeedabeda

[fast dew]

Yeah though why is he. Tinted blue

[humble sierra]

I took a photo of my TV, I'll probably post screenshots of them all

[fast dew]

His eyes are. White and his hair is brown smh

Thats my most popular tumblr post btw, pointing out that Roach has brown hair

[humble sierra]

He's probably closer to #3281a8

I definitely made his hair brown, but I liked the blueblack sclera effect

[tall echo]

Ink colors can only be picked from owned palettes

[fast dew]

Ahh

.
.. most people should have browns

Thats like. A core component of my fashion frames, browns reds and. Whites

[tall echo]

There's actually not many palettes with any browns

[fast dew]

2025 pride, Marshland, all currently available heirlooms, cherub, Gamma, Classic saturated, corpus, daybreak, dojo, Fire, grineer, Narmer, Light n shadow, storm, twilight, tenno 1, 2 and 3

..those are a lot of palettes

[brittle siren]

https://fixupx.com/oranzhs/status/2038919152400797774

Artie (Orange) 🌱🧬 (@oranzhs)

Marie concept art from Sergei Demidov's (Dante deluxe author) ArtStation account

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FixupX · Mar 31, 2026, 9:59 AM

ngl Marie concept look so different from the current one

[ocean geyser]

Some of these make her look like a horror movie character dawg

[humble sierra]

Lowkey prefer some of these to what we got

She's a bit too plain for my liking

Or like she was designed without any flaws.

Sometimes she looks like she has a tooth gap but I don't think that's intentional

[fast dew]

These are pretty good looking i think

I like the bottom ones more

I think something Marie stuggles with is the weird... infantilsation she gets? She's never taken seriously ykm

[dark compass]

I really like the bottom left variant

[fast dew]

Mm, i think I prefer the right, cus its closest to her base helm

[humble sierra]

Almost done every Proto

[fast dew]

[humble sierra]

😭 Marie was so difficult

[fast dew]

She is difficult to draw yeah

[dark compass]

Not the sad lyon

[fast dew]

Oh marie me too

And lyon, I also relate

HEHEH oh I still love the Flare one, Minerva with her glasses

AWHHH

[dark compass]

Why is she drooling

[fast dew]

Sleepin

[dark compass]

What if one of her rats sees this as space to crawl into

[fast dew]

NO THATS SO SCARY

[humble sierra]

okie just compiled it all into one to prevent spamming

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-gif-22290918

[fast dew]

I think i like Amir, Flare and Minerva the most

[cunning ore]

I think i can draw Marie

[fast dew]

I can, i just hate it

Shes difficult to draw i say as I draw visually complex characters on a daily basis

[cunning ore]

I got issues with face features

No, i think it like to every face just dk what syndrome it could be

[fresh orchid]

Face blindness?

[cunning ore]

Doubt that, it like i see everyone in the same face by the skull?

Nope, nvm

[fast dew]

Yeah thats face blindness lol

[cunning ore]

😔

[fresh orchid]

It’s also not being able to recall facial features

[fresh orchid]

Do you perchance have any neurodivergence? That’s a key symptom of it

[cunning ore]

Yea i got sth called bipolar disorder, sleep disorder and anxiety disorder

[fast dew]

Oh i have. 2 of those

[cunning ore]

Beside it there also some traumas and PTSD of being sexual assaulted (close) and there also some other like it from my traits

[fast dew]

Though, im like. Pretty sure my anxiety comes from the autism

[fresh orchid]

Oh I have audhd but they thought it was bipolar for most of my life lmao

[fast dew]

Woah do they not think the bipolar might be. From the trauma??

It might not be bipolar 😭

I had to work through my cptsd to get my autism diagnosis, it sucked

But also very very worth it

[cunning ore]

I don't know, i went to the mental hospital and they diagnosed so, and yea i doubt that it could be from my traumas of everything

[cunning ore]

I also an ADHD from some other text

[fast dew]

Mm, might be worth seeing a specialist on your own time, might help

[cunning ore]

My current status is like a mix of everything so

[cunning ore]

I gave up of it as i doubt them after the first visit

I even doubt that i manipulated myself

[fast dew]

Fair, me too but I am. Mainly diagnosed, theres. Some weirder shit going on outside everything but that honestly could be from everything

[fast dew]

Yeah. Mental hospital psychs might not be the best. Stretched thin

So theyd get you through faster without properly considering the nuance

[fresh orchid]

I don’t want to give medical advice but I kept getting bipolar and borderline diagnoses for decades until my doctor realized I had PTSD, autism, and adhd. It’s not the same for everyone though 🤷‍♀️

[cunning ore]

😭 Unless they can read me through character i like

Like for somehow, if they asked more about hobbies, it would clear more other things

[fast dew]

Bpd is so commonly misdiagnosed autism, particularly in afab folk, the papers ive read about it at least

[fresh orchid]

Yep women are just misbehaved if we have autism but boys can do whatever they like and it’s just hehe quirky

[fast dew]

See, I think just telling them I ate the same thing for the last week for over a month probably told them I had autism

[fast dew]

Im glad I transitioned before I ended up with my diagnosis, though the psych specialised in queer neurodivergent folk

I. Got really lucky in that regard, a lot of my medical team are trained on gender queerness

[fresh orchid]

Yeah, it was my ability to deep dive my medical diagnoses and give a PowerPoint presentation (not literally) to my doctor about why I thought I had each illness. I ended up being by mostly correct or in the right ballpark at least. That and I take words VERY literally.

[cunning ore]

i can't even do that with my trust issues

So i suffers alone but with ADHD it just be like a session, like it just somehow blank some day then suddenly it came back and broke

[fast dew]

How i felt with my Fibromyalgia diagnosis 😭 oh mysterious physical illness with no visual cues but acts incredibly similar to fibro i wonder what that is, clearly not. Fibromyalgia. Like I said it probably was

[fresh orchid]

My doctor was fascinated how I was right about all my now diagnosed illnesses and went “yep that’s autism”

[fresh orchid]

My “fibromyalgia” was anklyosing spondylitis 😭

[fast dew]

PQHA

Glad mine aint that, shit is just. Normal fibro, they checked for everything 😭

[fresh orchid]

Yeah I squint my eyes at fibro diagnosed without a base illness that causes it lmao

[fast dew]

It took like 3 years it was horrendous

[fresh orchid]

The funny part is they didn’t find the AS until they did the ONE specific imaging that finds it and a genetic test for the gene

[fast dew]

Mine seemed to be caused from. Physical trauma, its not unanticipated at all lol

Dawg half that shit was my own fault +. Epilepsy

[fresh orchid]

Yeah I got “degenerative disc disease” normal to aging but it starting in my childhood is not normal

[fast dew]

Damn i got crushed by CRT when I was like. 6

Among. Many other things

Shit was playing barbie and it was awesome, until I had to go to the hospital. Thank hell for free healthcare

[fresh orchid]

Ok we’re getting way off lote topic though lmao

[fast dew]

UHHH

I think Mother Entrati has autism.

Presenting similar to BPD

[dark compass]

Lore discussion is free ground

We always talk about anything here

[fast dew]

This is supported by her father seemingly having it himself

[cunning ore]

Well yea since mental illnesses also a part of Warframe

[fast dew]

I do not think they intentionally wrote Albrecht having autism

[cunning ore]

Like..many, a lot..in every corner.

[fast dew]

But having Mother act so similar

To that presentation

[cunning ore]

Currently the same things with real life, everyone possible have autism

Except the rich and not Orokin with Epstein trait

🙁

[dark compass]

Best autism reps are not written as autism reps

It's just some dude you know

[misty helm]

Applies to everything, really; the moment you write a character around a personality/character trait, there's the very high possibility of fumbling it.

[radiant pier]

Eleanor Kim chat

she's so dang freaky

[opaque zenith]

In other words, today is a day

[dark compass]

Ah yes

The writing equivalent of "I'm not racist I have black friends"

[smoky gulch]

So, basically, #lore-discussion is autism/ADHD hangout space from what I'm reading? (ignoring the fact warframe is one of games that are neurodivergent people lantern)

[tall echo]

Eh rell is really good too despite being written to be one

[dark compass]

Its just a hangout place, mostly with queer people

It just happened that we are all interested in lore

So the order is self maintained

[tall echo]

Queer people, neurodivergent people, neurodiqueergent people

[smoky gulch]

Yeah, just wanted to note how, amusingly, lots of people yearning for lore seem to be in the similar boat

[dark compass]

This channel is also less moderated than something like General bc of having much less people active

This is the best channel

[tall echo]

And also me who can't get jokes right

[dark compass]

It's ok, we accept you anyway

https://tenor.com/view/panko-cat-pankocat-fatfatpankocat-pet-gif-228857265189960783

[tall echo]

I don't but unimportant

LORE

[fast dew]

Its not even that, he has other really weirdly autistic traits

The struggle with communication, the weird voice thing, visual emotions of a brick

Hyperfocus is one part

[radiant pier]

oh yes absolutely

general gets a lil crazy but also rlly fast so

[ocean geyser]

Techrot tried to get yo ass

[fast dew]

Fr i blame Albrecht

[ocean geyser]

Lmfao

[fast dew]

Type of shit some folk think hed do

Nooo clearly hed. Shove a tv onto a 6 year old

[ocean geyser]

There is a video of a guy getting hit by a CRT and sounding like a robot afterwards…
I am
Thinking about it extensively now

[fast dew]

Oh so thats where my tonal inflection went

[ocean geyser]

I should probably
Send it

Lemme go look

[fast dew]

Do it.

[cunning ore]

So that's why i feel happy at this place The friendliest channel to me

[pale cedar]

It doesn't need much moderating

Because generally, the users here are the best

[peak ether]

What’s there to moderate about loreheads just talking about the story

Tbf I use the warframe general as region chat these days because I got rid of it in warframe

[restive river]

The worst we could possibly get in here is scammers and the occasional exceptionally terrible individuals
Which
Are thankfully rare

We got a mostly safe pocket to just discuss lore :]

[pale cedar]

The only moderation here is when people who aren't the best at lore decide they're suddenly experts on the lore and when called out start an argument or use insults

[restive river]

Exactly, the occasional exceptionally terrible

[peak ether]

I’d say that the usuals who go into this channel are more than happy to be proven wrong or at least I am anyways

[restive river]

Yeah, that’s why I always check for a source if I feel unsure lol

[tall echo]

I'm unhappy to be reminded of how crap my memory is

[pale cedar]

The internet has come with lots of people who can't accept that they might be wrong

[peak ether]

If it makes you feel better I always look stuff up quickly before adding onto the convo

[restive river]

Download more ram

[pale cedar]

You're becoming Suda 2

[tall echo]

I do that on pc
I don't check this channel on pc

[restive river]

I made a shortcut for the archives for easy access

[tall echo]

Good idea

[pale cedar]

There's already a Ram crisis

[tall echo]

[[Hyperlink Blocked]]

[restive river]

ITS FOR SCRAP ):

[fast dew]

Because sometimes here comes know it all timmy who thinks they know more than several other people telling him he's wrong but would rather call us names instead of accepting that he's wrong

[restive river]

Donate ram to a cephalon in need

[smoky gulch]

This one? https://fixupx.com/hardwarecanucks/status/2038684903626215898

Hardware Canucks (@hardwarecanucks)

Turns out Sam Altman "buying up" 40% of DRAM wafers was actually him writing Letters of Intent. Letters he supposedly had / has no intention of converting to actual purchases now.
︀︀
︀︀And memory manufacturers are just getting DUMPED on today.🍿🍿

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FixupX · Mar 30, 2026, 6:28 PM

[fast dew]

OWHA

[restive river]

Y’know how we figured out how to like
Store data in glass?

Did we figure that out before or after we had cephalons in Warframe?

[peak ether]

Let’s goooo! Consumers getting a minor W

[peak ether]

Could be before? I’d assume Ayatan tech was prevalent before glassing became a thing but I don’t have a source on that

[restive river]

I mean irl

[peak ether]

Oh lol

[restive river]

Lol

[fast dew]

Ram prices might take a bit to go down, but hopefully we can see changes soon

[smoky gulch]

Yeah, that's what I hope

[pale cedar]

Hopeium

[fast dew]

Because. Looking at local suppliers aint doing much for me

[smoky gulch]

Not much else left on that front

[restive river]

I’m gonna try and research this hold on

[peak ether]

I’m hoping for companies to panic and start selling them en masse because everything tanked

[restive river]

When did we first get cephalons?

[fast dew]

Whenever nihil popped up

[pale cedar]

We got AI in real life before AI in Warframe

Minor Orokin W for a while

[fast dew]

Nihil......

[restive river]

Ok all I’m finding is that Microsoft made a big advancement in the field of glass data storage fairly recently lol

[pale cedar]

I think the Orokin were onto something

[fast dew]

Well thats cool

[restive river]

If Old Earth in Warframe got to that point then all I can think of is the Orokin breaking all the glass they can find LOL

[peak ether]

Now we just need complete mastery over biology and pray that the 1% of the 1% don’t keep it for themselves

[fast dew]

Theyre gonna keep it for themselves

[peak ether]

[tall echo]

Nop

[pale cedar]

Why didn't the Orokin just try nuking the Sentients?

It worked for the Infested

[restive river]

They will 🙃

[restive river]

They may have already adapted to large amounts of radiation and it seems that as long as a single piece survives then they can adapt

Do you think Sentients can share adaptations?

[peak ether]

Got a point acc, it should be considered archaic weaponry and they can’t adapt to that if it wipes them out in 1 attack

[restive river]

Like hey I just got nuked and lived, here’s how to just counter that fellow sentient

[tall echo]

They literally do

[peak ether]

Hivemind so that info would probably be shared

[tall echo]

Sentients share adaptations with nearby sentients in gameplay

[restive river]

They aren’t that kind of hivemind

[restive river]

Oh they do?

[pale cedar]

Should've tried the RPG too

[restive river]

Nice

[tall echo]

iirc that's what's happening when they do those weird noises

[restive river]

To clarify on this, the sentient “hivemind” is just the main Sentient and any fragments it has made, keyword being the fragments
Not just other random sentients
It is, to be fair, the best way to describe it but it is kinda misleading since not all Sentients are connected to a larger hivemind
They more so all have the capacity to be their own hiveminds

[peak ether]

Ahh right so there should be a few primordial sentients that can’t share the info between them

tbf we only mainly have Hunhow’s fragments in game right?

[restive river]

Hunhow, Pragahsa/Erra and Lotus’

We don’t know if it’s Pragahsa or Erra’s during like
The New War and Narmer but it’s one of em
They also are born from the ships which may also be fragments??

It’s not about being a primordial sentient, any sentient that’s a whole sentient has the capacity for fragments and thus being a hivemind

[tall echo]

What if we make a fragment sentient and then try to make it fragmentize

[peak ether]

I said primordial, in the sense that they come from a single sentient but yeah I get you

[tall echo]

Imagine just a microscopic sentient

[tall echo]

We usually just call them full sentients

[restive river]

Idk if fragments can further fragment but I’d assume so to some extent

[peak ether]

I’m hoping for Tau reveal in the upcoming tennocon so we get tau this year

[tall echo]

Tau 2026 was confirmed last year

[peak ether]

Oh fr? Then we have to get it this winter nice

[restive river]

Have you seen the tennocon logo for this year??

[peak ether]

Nope

[restive river]

It’s very sentient

With the new lines from Lotus I think we can seriously speculate what they have in store

[peak ether]

You expecting a completely new star chart or just 1 planet for now that they add on to?

[tall echo]

Hoping former expecting latter

[restive river]

Lotus has a few lines about how both Operator and Drifter now know that they both have pieces of sentients inside of them, functionally we are sorta like Amalgams
Also Lotus mentions this fact in relation to possible Tau denizens

[restive river]

1-2 planets/moons first with more later

Tau is not going to be as large of a system like
Factually

A solar system with the amount of planets ours has is very rare

[peak ether]

if it’s the latter I’d assume there would be operations to “build” our own solar rails or utilise ones already built by the sentients to go to the new planets

[woven coyote]

I dont think there will be much to tau, mostly because of DE's age old concern with fragmenting the playerbase too much

[tall echo]

Sun nodes when DE

[restive river]

We could rebuild the Tau rail

[tall echo]

I want to fight on the sun

[restive river]

Also Lotus mentions something about the veil exploding when Hunhow destroyed the rail?
Idr the exact line

If we want mom to come to Tau I fear we may have to use gma’s corpse

[restive river]

If we going to the sun then we reusing grandma for sure

But they made a point to talk about the rail again and if the Tau side is still a thing then we can just rebuild our side

Then use grandma, or parts of her to shelter mom like her first trip
Which
She may get damaged, depends on how we help her

[peak ether]

Speaking of which, do we know the effects on sentients traveling through the void more than once?

[tall echo]

Lotus seems to be more void resistant for some reason

[fast dew]

Gmas corpse..

[fast dew]

Death, presumably

They should've died

[tall echo]

It's an exposure thing, it's like acid to them

The melty sort not the other

[restive river]

First trip, Grandma died, Grandpa, Uncle and Mom all lived but unable to reproduce

They were all inside Praghasa for said trip, hence why she died and they did not

[woven coyote]

Better, repurpose the lua throne

[restive river]

Just
Extract the whole thing and tow it with our Railjack/Orbiter

[woven coyote]

Lol

[restive river]

We should rebuild the rail or at least have it rebuilt eventually just for the orbiter

Maybe we sneak in through some
Remnant tied to what Ballas did but later we get the rail for sure

[peak ether]

On a side note, it would be cool to see sentient corpses just floating through the void route to tau. Some evidence that not every sentient made it through to the solar system

[restive river]

Or
Sentient corpses that are just some of the old sentients used for building the rail
The pylons

[tall echo]

500000 sentients

[peak ether]

Ooh yeah, adds some dread that not the entire fleet of the sentients made it through which would’ve made the old war considerably worse for the orokin

[restive river]

It would be cool to maybe see some old Sentients at the rail when we get there, corpses from the war

[peak ether]

Maybe even complete eidolons too

[restive river]

I’m kinda hoping there’s a Sentient museum but that mostly depends on how they’re doing over there-

[fast dew]

Drusus... go British museum style and steal shit

[tall echo]

those wouldn't be eidolons :)

[restive river]

My guess is we may have a Sentient civil war or maybe a rebellion, if there are ties to Wally then maybe the Lords are being controlled by him to some extent

I will not be shocked if there’s something new with archon shards

[peak ether]

Ik but we don’t know what the complete ones are called do we?

[tall echo]

sentients

[restive river]

Anti-entropic energy vs entropy entity when

[fast dew]

Albrecht was given them but I am. Unsure as to why

[restive river]

What’s a complete zombie
A human

[normal mountain]

Had funny image pop into brain
We get to Tau: Imperial March starts playing

[peak ether]

Okay fair enough

[fast dew]

Well most dead bodies are complete

[tall echo]

crush up eidolon shards and snort shoot him with them

[woven coyote]

Strategically. Transfer. Equipment. to Alternate. Location

[tall echo]

archon

not eidolon

[fast dew]

HEYEHEH

[tall echo]

I'm dehydrated

[fast dew]

True.. xata

[restive river]

Exactly
But not eidolon shards, archon shards

The archon ones use anti-entropic energy

[normal mountain]

Eidolon shards...
Now that would be intriguin- wait, aren't those just the things we use to make Cetus amps?
sigh Never mind

[tall echo]

https://tenor.com/view/albrecht-entrati-gif-3191941303944791684

[fast dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952946035733438575/1461285583681753251/explode-1768467993232.gif

Mine is better

[restive river]

https://tenor.com/view/good-night-cat-lizz-lizzy-gif-8241235136729564068

[peak ether]

Would the word shard imply that there’s a more complete form of the crystals we get from the archons?

[fast dew]

True actually that makes sense

[restive river]

We get pretty complete ones
Maybe there are just bigger shards they like
Harvest from

[tall echo]

archon ore

[normal mountain]

Forge one into a hammer
Call it the Wallbreaker

[restive river]

In the New War we literally take the shards out of them, if they’re getting new ones then they’re making them or have a stockpile
And with what we’ve seen of the Sentients I can see them just growing them and breaking them off, turning them into shards by definition

[restive river]

EXACTLY

[tall echo]

the orphic hammer

from bg3

[normal mountain]

Perhaps
But I like Wallbreaker better

[woven coyote]

We also need to make 4 of them

And then we only use the 4th one

[peak ether]

It probably won’t happen but I hope they do more with the memory recollection

[tall echo]

no like
this is the orphic hammer
this is literally what an archon shard hammer would look like

[peak ether]

Imagine depending on which archon shard you used has different stats

[normal mountain]

Hmmmmmmm

[tall echo]

crimson has slash, amber has puncture, blue has impact

azure

I forgot the name for a moment

[restive river]

What in the deep void

[fast dew]

Most dont use azure

[tall echo]

green 2.0

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[peak ether]

I only use them to meet the minimum requirement for certain builds

[tall echo]

I don't even remember the origin why did I start that joke @restive river ?

[restive river]

Soulframe I think
Spirit virtue

[tall echo]

oh yea

[restive river]

All I know is that I love it and that that has wormed it’s way into mine and my partner’s brains as an occasional stim

green :]

[orchid hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[restive river]

LOL

[tall echo]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-dark-side-palpatine-sith-gif-14304484953492859842

[woven coyote]

Seems like you have done an inside joke

[forest lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[tall echo]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[slender needle]

guys I'm back

can y'all give me the lore for Grendel?

please and thank you

[restive river]

Him and Gauss are buddies and Grendel ate Karrish, an Orokin Executor (like Ballas)

Grendel’s leverian is in-game btw

https://www.orokinarchives.com/leverian-grendel/

Here’s his prime trailer

https://youtu.be/3L56G_0BJuo?si=CqMUbNbT_q4Ay5lc

https://www.orokinarchives.com/grendel-prime/

The exact relationship between Grendel and Gauss is unknown other than they’re close and often times paired together
They were originally going to release together but that didn’t pan out

[heady quest]

also taking the prime commentary from ballas into account, they were dispached to deal with the corpus board. They got eaten and goddamn obliterated

[woven coyote]

GG

[restive river]

They rebuilt anyway smh 😔

[heady quest]

yeah unfortunatly.. those pesky corpus

[restive river]

Even a dude with a literal stomach for a mouth can’t scare the Corpus away from their glorious GROFIT

[slender needle]

is there a reason for his design being large?

forgot to hit send mb

[woven coyote]

Because eat

[cunning ore]

Everytime i see Gauss and Grendel

https://tenor.com/view/ornstein-and-smough-ornstein-smough-dark-souls-boss-fight-gif-23855321

[slender needle]

I was telling my friend that he's probably based off of gluttony aswell

[candid elm]

did we ever figure out when the devils triad was from?

[restive river]

Watch or read his prime trailer
It tells you

[restive river]

1899

[slender needle]

too lazy

[candid elm]

i see i see thanks

[slender needle]

I just think of Grendel like deviljho

[restive river]

So you can read what we say here but can’t read or watch what I had sent?

I gave you the info, it’s on you to look at it lol

[candid elm]

the orokin made fun of ballas's warframe designs being too graceful and "gentile" so he said "well fine if thats what you think!"

and thus grendal became the fat voreframe we all know and love

[slender needle]

I find it easier to read than watch

I can't learn from videos

[restive river]

Then read it
I sent both lol

[restive river]

This has both links

[candid elm]

anyone tried translating the orokin on lyons clothing?

[cunning ore]

Hmm, not yet i guess

[slender needle]

ew translating

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/they-were-roommates-ohmygod-ohmygod-they-were-roommates-gif-13171811792749378048

[slender needle]

guys what are the type of cartoon art styles?

[fast dew]

Why are you in the lore chat if you don't want to engage in the lore

[dark compass]

i just make jokes

[fast dew]

What. What does that even mean

[dark compass]

ai prompts maybe

[twin wigeon]

i just make bad questions

[fast dew]

You still engage with lore and not refuse to do shit 😭

[dark compass]

[restive river]

Yeah :]

[restive river]

I know for a fact some people have but I do not have that info 😔

You could try looking it up, I had luck doing so with the scripture iirc

[cunning ore]

I really want to know why the Tenno Hayden sign can be a flower-lookalike

[restive river]

What?

Like the Lotus Symbol in Darksector?

[cunning ore]

This

[candid elm]

i mostly sure it's just a referance to dark sector which i wish DE still had the rights too...

sigh

[restive river]

I think that’s literally them just being flowery lol

[candid elm]

i can't run dark sector and it makes me mad

[restive river]

They have the rights
Iirc it was free before 1999 came out

[fast dew]

Wdym you cant run it 😭

[woven coyote]

It's not that the sign for hayden tenno can be a flower but rather that the words hayden tenno are surrounded by a line that looks like a flower

[cunning ore]

If it associated to Tennobet, yea i confused more how it went from lines to a flowery

[fast dew]

Aint it a yonks old game

[woven coyote]

The words are in the middle of it

[cunning ore]

So they just adding the outer?

[woven coyote]

Yeah

[restive river]

You know how people maybe put a heart for the dots in the i?

[cunning ore]

Thank god, i was so scared

[slender needle]

like, I'm trying to remember the name of a cartoon/comic style that I like, but like, I can't think of a name

[fast dew]

Or do unnecessary loops on long letters
-# I do this

[candid elm]

could've sworn they didn't own the rights fully...

regardless i'm mad i can't play the game

[cunning ore]

I don't

[fast dew]

Why cant you play it 😭 what happened

[restive river]

They do now afaik
Hope you can try it soon tho

[restive river]

That is something some people do lol

[candid elm]

i have a steam deck so my bet is the game just really doesn't like linux

[cunning ore]

Manga? Storybook? Illustration book? Magazine?

[fast dew]

Is it like. Only on old hardware

[cunning ore]

😭 Oh

[slender needle]

uhm have y'all seen Miles Morales spiderman? the dude that had the guitar, that style

[woven coyote]

Steamdeck dislikes 360 lol

[fast dew]

How does one own a steam deck but not like. Maybe a shitty laptop that could run it

[candid elm]

you'd think...

[fast dew]

Oh like. Into the spiderverse? Mm, I dont know the name of the style but im aware of it

[cunning ore]

Wait the game still there? I thought it gone so i cannot

[fast dew]

I think even my shitty laptop could run dark sector

Not that I need it, I got

[restive river]

How does this relate to Warframe?

[candid elm]

eh i mean maybe if i change the proton...

might be a launch command i can throw in to make it work, buuuuuuut i have other games to play rn

[fast dew]

Big puter

[slender needle]

I want to use that art style as a concept for a Warframe I'm designing

[fast dew]

Big puter, ps4 and 5 and. My fone yk

[cunning ore]

Ignore me, racistputer

[candid elm]

yeah you could probably work it into temple, but that's for #fashion-frame

[slender needle]

why do u question my questioning

[restive river]

Ah, goodluck

[dark compass]

Because you're in lore channel

[restive river]

Because you’re asking a seemingly unrelated question in a lore channel

[slender needle]

yeah I was just seeing if y'all knew first yk

[restive river]

You’re fine, it’s just by itself very out of place lol

[slender needle]

I know, I'm sorry

[fast dew]

I spent the last. Hour trying to figure out why discord wont embed a mp4 or MOV file, lore chat saved me from losing my mind

I just wanted to show yall netracell shit 💔

[cunning ore]

Not permitted?

[fast dew]

Nah, its not working anywhere

Idek why man it just did not like it

I should sleep

Its like 6am I need to sleep

[cunning ore]

Yea, Thomas, go to sleep

Dream about yaoi of Entrati

[rare willow]

Mmmm Entrati Yaoi

My favorite

[cunning ore]

so we all gay...

Interesting. I would call it Entrati's infestation

[fast dew]

Me too man me too

Actually no i lie

[rare willow]

gasp

[fast dew]

I like divorce eternal more
-# doom yaoi oh my

Somehow, if those more familiar with. Me. That says a lot

Me and my Albrecht shrine means little to it

[rare willow]

mmmm yaoi. so many options

[dark compass]

I'm not actually gay

[fast dew]

Fair

[dark compass]

But don't tell anybody

[rare willow]

-# Quincy please notice me,

[fast dew]

Me and my. Collection of yaoi

Bara, actually but yk

Folk dont care about the difference

[dark compass]

There's always nuance

[fast dew]

Dante having the eye on his head js. Whuh

[slender needle]

being gay is gay anyways

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-withrock-gif-27341353

[slender needle]

🐐

[rare willow]

Sounds kinda gay. Where do I sign up?

[slender needle]

right here sir, and for five dollars, you can have someone else get in for free

[rare willow]

The more the merrier

What can I get for $500?

[slender needle]

an army

[rare willow]

mmm

An army of men...

[slender needle]

FOR SPARTA

wait they're roman

what would a Greek one be

unless they are greek

[rare willow]

Sparta is Greek

For Rome?

[slender needle]

idk man, I'm just here gng

I think I've made the lore for my cartoon frame, y'all wanna read it?

too bad I'm sending it anyways

and I'm thinking for lore, he was spreading propaganda against the Orokin through cartoons, which they didn't like, but he continues anyways, and they punished him by making him a cartoon

I just need a name for him

[rare willow]

ohhh

hm, maybe something like storyboard, since cartoons use those universally. Except that doesn't work to weel as a name

[slender needle]

hmm

[restive river]

An army of gays
Literally what Megan wants

[restive river]

Political cartoonist Warframe forced to make cartoons for war

[slender needle]

literally

[restive river]

So if they’re a cartoonist what does that entail?
Are they a summoner of two dimensional minions :?

[slender needle]

idk, haven't started abilities yet

[restive river]

Cause just the art aspect does remind me of Follie while also being different enough cause it’s specifically more animated

Multiple frames have shared themes before fyi, I’m not trying to say they’re bad cause similar to Follie lol
I love the concept

[slender needle]

yeah follei is kind of the inspiration

like my plant one is based off oberon

[restive river]

We do need a new plant frame…

[slender needle]

I already made one

:p

[restive river]

What kind of cartoons/animation were you thinking? Cause that could help with the abilities
Like if they’re rubberhose/slapstick then they use an anvil or draw a hole that enemies fall into

[woven coyote]

What does it say about me that when i read two dimensional minion i thought of marie?

[slender needle]

this kind of art style

the comic/cartoon style is what I was aiming for

and he's gonna be survivability + single target dmg

[restive river]

LMAO

Discord liked that so much it sent it twice lol

[slender needle]

and for abilities I was thinking of a pocket space, if that's what it was called

maybe pull out different weapons depending on the circumstances

maybe I'll name him Fred

the first Warframe with just a normal name

[woven coyote]

But a "normal" name in the orokin era would just be a weird name

[thick violet]

Spoilers how to unlock but I just unlocked ||The Guilty quest thing|| and was wondering what the lore behind it was? I saw a video and it said you had to ||use Uriel to unlock it|| and was wondering what that means?

[twin wigeon]

Perhaps since Uriel is an orokin turned warframe, bowing to the Sentient Queen Natah/Lotus/Margulis is you accepting the atrocities Orokin have committed against the sapient Sentients

And the reason it grants Hard Mode Perita is pay penance for the atrocities committed by the orokin by reliving the trauma caused by it?

Anyhoo weird question

Why is Shadowgrapher locked behind chains of harrow completion? And not just second dream?

[woven coyote]

Spooky

[thick violet]

I heard a theory that it has something to do with tenno like Rell and a teacher specifically assigned to teach them, but also being awful due to some of the voice lines throughout the mission

[high bay]

Given its TDOV in my timezone, I would like to verify that Ticker is indeed trans and uses she/her pronouns?

[strange plinth]

i still think its just to maintain chains of harrow as The Horror Quest

[woven coyote]

She is very much trans yeah

[high bay]

If I may continue this point, would being trans as a Solaris be more accessible than it is for normal humans, given Solaris tend to switch out biological and augmetic body parts as their debt slavery continues?

[woven coyote]

Less accessible i'd say, because you dont exactly get much choice what with the crushing generational debt

Ticker for example sold all her body to get her lover's back

And poor lad doesnt even remember her due to brain shelving

[restive river]

Happy Trans Visibility Day btw

[high bay]

So what about the Solaris we fund through Ticker’s gofundme’s? Are we covering their whole debt ledger or just that cycle’s costs?

[woven coyote]

Probably parts of it only

The debt bonds we receive are related to whatever debt we took on

[dark compass]

Yeah we just pay off specific debts

Shelter, medical expenses

[high bay]

That sucks because I have like a hundred million credits burning a hole in my pocket and I feel like I could probably buy Fortuna with that no?

[twin wigeon]

No

[slender needle]

fortuna is worth plat bud

[pale cedar]

Nah, it’s because Chains of Harrow introduces Wally rather than just having ominous voice in the clouds and Wally is the reason Vesper got blown up in the first place

[twin wigeon]

You might buy a share with say… 1 hundred million plat?

[twin wigeon]

Strata?

[pale cedar]

Wait

[twin wigeon]

Also I thought Fomorian blew up vesper

[pale cedar]

It’s the Venus one

I’m tired

[twin wigeon]

No you’re a book

[pale cedar]

I meant vesper

[twin wigeon]

Even then, I thought Balor Fomorians blew it up?

[pale cedar]

I’m a book that runs on energy

[twin wigeon]

void energy

[pale cedar]

Void energy that runs out when there’s no lore

[twin wigeon]

And resurges when there’s no

[pale cedar]

I’m powered by lore as I am a lore Void book

When all lore dies
I die

[drifting lintel]

they did. follie's hunt is after chains of harrow for gameplay reasons. you remember the final fight in that quest?

[twin wigeon]

Well yeah we put rell to sleep, but Follie’s stuff is not remotely similar

[drifting lintel]

dodging fanatics, being stuck in void mode, scary atmosphere... yeah no similaraties...

[slender needle]

I'm thinking of naming him Stryke

because he's gonna use different weapons for a pocket dimension

and strike enemies

[woven coyote]

Permanent sleep 6 feet under rlly.

Best euphemism i have heard for it is definetely wooden onesie

[slender needle]

I'm cooking

but for his lore, what should the propaganda be over, it has to be something to make the Orokin very angry

Were the Orokin known for having fragile egos?

[woven coyote]

Yes

[drifting lintel]

kinda? does Zeus have a fragile ego or is he just baffled that an ant told him to go screw himself?

[slender needle]

what

[drifting lintel]

it was the equivalent in their society. a normal human talking to an orokin was like a human talking to an olympian

[slender needle]

I don't understand the comparison, I'm sorry

[drifting lintel]

do you know greek mythology?

[slender needle]

not a whole lot

[drifting lintel]

what mythology do you know?

[slender needle]

and I tend to confuse Norse and Greek

I know about Odin and Valhalla?

I read the Magnus chase books?

[drifting lintel]

okay it would be like a normal human saying to odin that they know better than him.
odin would do some sort of trixy thing to put them back in their place, because one is a god and the other is human.

the orokin saw themselves as gods. orders of magnatude above normal people

[tall echo]

ok the comparison you used doesn't exactly work tho bc the orokin do have hella fragile egos, they wouldn't just be confused by someone below them saying something negative

orokin would go full queen of hearts and just have any oppositioning peasants executed

[drifting lintel]

that's why I tried to use Zeuse as an example first. he would literally just smite them and move on.

[tall echo]

then you just phrased it weird, ok

[drifting lintel]

they said they knew about odin... odin doesn't smite

hence the janky comparison

[tall echo]

what kind of person knows about odin but not zeus

[drifting lintel]

I have the same question about someone who read magnus chase but not percy jackson

which they also where

[slender needle]

I thought he meant Zeus like someone from Warframe 😭

I thought it was a Warframe lore thing

[tall echo]

[slender needle]

[drifting lintel]

you still read the magnus chase books but not percy first.

do you even know the importance of his last name?

[slender needle]

I saw the Percy Jackson movie

[woven coyote]

Oof

[drifting lintel]

that .... does not help things

[slender needle]

and I read the first book I think? but that was LONG ago

so my knowledge is negligible

[drifting lintel]

those two movies were

bad

at least the tv series was done good

[slender needle]

O

yeah my knowledge for them is very inconsistent/misplaced

[dire mountain]

Sorry I'm not over Vilcor being aware of the Murmur

Like long before the reunion

[slender needle]

Do you think my warframe's propaganda should've been how the Orokin were egotistical and just wanted power, almost like he was trying to get everyone to go against them?

almost like he was trying to start his own war

[twin wigeon]

What

[slender needle]

are Orokin also known for being petty

[twin wigeon]

Pretty much

[slender needle]

making my own Warframe

this is my second one

[twin wigeon]

Ok Ballas

[drifting lintel]

The orokin are known for basically being the worst parts of every bad country's rulers

[slender needle]

I'll take that as a compliment

[drifting lintel]

Ballas is the community punching bag

[slender needle]

ah ok, so ww2 leader(if you know what I mean) style

[twin wigeon]

That’s roach

[tall echo]

so just all country's rulers

[drifting lintel]

Yes. And Marie Antoinette, and the Spanish conquistadors, and the Roman Senate, etc

[tall echo]

nah ballas wins against roach for that title

[drifting lintel]

No it's ballas

[drifting lintel]

But like... The objective worst of them from any part of their history.

I'm not sure if Reagan or someone slightly more modern would be America's orokin

-# I wonder if anyone is brave enough to step on that rat trap

[twin wigeon]

Where’s the wf lore

[slender needle]

I ate it

[loud oriole]

you didnt save any for grendel and rhino

[cunning ore]

Hey don't eat it!

[slender needle]

yummy pages

[loud oriole]

do not the missing grimoire page!!!

[slender needle]

I'm guessing the Orokin had "Tax collectors" of sorts

[slender needle]

you can taste the trees

[loud oriole]

those arent trees

[slender needle]

well they taste yummy

I want a reason for my Warframe to have started propaganda

[tall echo]

corpus

[slender needle]

which rn, it's because they killed his family because they couldn't pay taxes

[peak ether]

I wonder how old the corpus are in the Orokin empire because parvos was a farmer first

[cunning ore]

I remember that they said corpus used to be the same as Grineer to be low-class labor. Then Parvos managed to get rich from stealing a Rubedo and he turned himself into his own faction. I honestly think that they not "Tax Collectors" of the Orokin. Entrati might have borrow money from Parvos to continue his research while being cut-down on the fund from The Seven for his Void project

[peak ether]

Then got rewarded by Ballas for his economic contributions with Protea

[cunning ore]

Doubt that word of "Rewarding". At that time Parvos has the wealth that far or be fair to be staying at the position of a candidate who can negotiate with The Seven,