lore-discussion

[vast willow]

Yeah on my Clan server one of the admins are a pretty chill guy and he talked to be about that once.

[fast dew]

Yeah its super cool stuff

But you're not missing much

Outside the DLC

Which is coming this year AND SAMUR/SAMUEL MIGHT BE BACK

[marble timber]

And WE MIGHT MEET THE WRETCH

AND WE ARE GETTING A SPEAR!!!

AND A HUGE EDITION TO THE COMBAT LOOP

EEEEE

[marble timber]

https://tenor.com/view/giddy-yay-excited-omg-gif-25847224

[vast willow]

I feel like the beginning cutscene of every Doom game is just non-stop "I have no gun but I must shoot"

[marble timber]

Pretty much

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doomguy-gif-366884463840825135

[twin wigeon]

So

How exactly does throwing operator in the void trap us ina loop

[marble timber]

I imagine the same way the Drifter created durviri

The void takes our memories and emotions

and turns them physical

[fast dew]

EYAH

Someone who shares the excitement

[twin wigeon]

But why would operator loop? Is it like operator having their life flash between their eyes?

[fast dew]

Mm, thats conceptual embodiment. The loop the operator was in could've been wally inflicted or "self" inflicted

[marble timber]

Likely same with drifter

It is unstable, it is their trauma

Forced to relive the worst moment of their life

[fast dew]

I assume the old peace kinda fixed that

In the way they cant be looped with their own trauma again

[marble timber]

Yeah

[twin wigeon]

And if they’re trapped in the void how did they get to the zariman? I assume they were just drifting in the void until they hit the zariman since it’s stuck in the membrane

[fast dew]

Zariman is in the void

Our emotions are directed to the zariman

I am..speaking. completely out of my ass

[marble timber]

Beside void storms, Durviri and zariman, we have no idea what the void is even like inside

But it very clearly does not follow the normal laws of space

I would imagine that it’s sort of like folded paper, multiple pockets of different things. Durviri, the trauma flashback, the zariman, etc

[marble timber]

Whaddya think?

[twin wigeon]

It’s in the membrane between void and dust

We’ve only experienced pockets of embodied void and never raw void like cavia that is true

[ocean geyser]

I mean there’s the towers floating around in it if that counts?
I guess we’ve more seen than experienced the raw void

In which case it sorta looks like this glowy, spongey lookin energy

[restive lantern]

Drifter, in Quincys KIM chats. " a derelict ship trapped like a cork in a rift in dimensions, inhabited by ghosts and terrible memories." So yeah it's more stuck in the membrane

[ocean geyser]

As seen through the skyboxes and whatnot

[fast dew]

I agree with a lot of what you said yeah

[mental herald]

What is the albrect membrane and who shot it to hell

[fast dew]

Wall between the real world and the void

And
The zariman

[twin wigeon]

The Albrecht Membrane, named after the Orokin Scientist that is reportedly the first to breach said membrane, Albrecht Entrati.

The Albrecht membrane is a essentially a wall that seperates the origin system from the madness of the void and Wally. The Zariman serves as the Cork to prevent Wally from invading and consuming the Origin System.

[dusky fox]

Hey guys so I’m confused lore wise, I’m almost done with the new war quest but I’m confused on where “the man in the wall” came from?! I won’t lie I did not pay attention at times during the cut scenes, I know he appeared during Harroe quest but like where did he come from

[fast dew]

Mm. Did you play whispers?

Go play that first, if you haven't.

[dusky fox]

Not sure, is that after new war quest? If so I guess I gotta wait

[fast dew]

Mhm. Well, I can tell you, but it is spoilers.

Your choice

[dark compass]

Shouldn't it be a prerequisite to new war?

[fast dew]

Whispers? No 😭

[dark compass]

It's optional???

[fast dew]

no.

Whispers takes place after the new war 😭

[dark compass]

Oh

Ffs

[fast dew]

How did you forget that 😭

[dusky fox]

Oh ok then yeah I’ll wait

[fast dew]

Whispers in the walls, to clarify

[dark compass]

I keep confusing it with another quest

[fast dew]

Chains?

[dark compass]

Chains yeah

[fast dew]

Suddenly, ito dah

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[dusky fox]

Another thing I’m confused about is are the Tenno immortal? Based off where I’m at in the new war it seems that way

[fast dew]

They're. Not exactly

Remember, Rell died

Rell being the boy inside the harrow warframe during chains of harrow

[dusky fox]

Oh yeah I forgot

[fast dew]

Its. Weird 😭 I don't blame you for thinking so

[dusky fox]

There is so much to ts, the devs really thought this out 😭 im having to like absorb so much at once

[fast dew]

Mhm. Iirc it was up to. The new war? They planned heavily. Or was it whispers?

[glass sluice]

:pickle:

[fast dew]

Idk what that means but I fw it

[glass sluice]

It's a payday thing, the character "chains" would refer to situations as being "in a pickle", so the community ran with it and it's referenced by the devs fairly consistently.

It's actually older than WF as a reference, so when Chains of Harrow came out, a lot of jokes were made about it.

[fast dew]

Oh. I

Knew that. Actually. Where do I know that from

[glass sluice]

Payday 2 memes are widely known enough that you've probably seen it online.

that and the "i need a medic bag" are probably the most well known from the franchise.

You've mentioned Russian Badger before? He did a series of Videos on them years later.

[dusky fox]

Ok ok another question but if it’s a spoiler don’t say lol

[fast dew]

Mm. I am. Suddenly very sad. Not your fault tho

Old friend of mine, thats who I knew it from

[fast dew]

Hm?

Mm. Elton John. Just in time. You never cease to keep me from getting too sad.

[dusky fox]

So the whole story is showing that these Tenno are essentially “special.” So if this is the case, how many “Tenno” lore wise are there? Because there are a lot of individual warframes so I’m assuming lore wise the Tenno only control 1?

[fast dew]

Oh

No theres a lot of tenno.

Clans full of them

[glass sluice]

(be gentle with the Zariman explanation, it can alienate a lot of folks)

[fast dew]

But there's only one of you. Only one kiddo :)

[fast dew]

Dw I wont introduce much. Won't even use ||chosen operator.||

[glass sluice]

If you mention Ordan, I legally get to delete your potatoes.

[visual knoll]

Ordan sucks

[fast dew]

Only time you'll see me mention ordan is talking about the weird aversion some folk have when it comes to men with trauma [it shrimply cannot exist]

[glass sluice]

I mean, his issue isn't so much trauma as he's ya know, programmed to not feel it.

[dusky fox]

Just cause I’m thinking like at least so far from what I’ve seen, the game hasnt shown the man in the wall offer all these Tenno powers except the player

[glass sluice]

(went through the Kim convo again last night, forgot how well it was written)

[fast dew]

"I can save them. All of them". The "all" means every child [tenno] on the zariman.

[visual knoll]

Do i open a ton of axi relics in public lobbies and hope for a yarellu systems bp?

[fast dew]

... sure

Iirc her main bp is on Y1 on neo iirc

[glass sluice]

That's what I do when I'm bored, just run all the pre-ranked up relics in pub squads and get random junk.

[fast dew]

My brain is one string away from tearing someone's head off if I think too hard so dont trust me

[dusky fox]

Mmm I was thinking too in the moment then and assumed “all” was just the Tenno in the class

[dark compass]

Oh!

Do it to me

[fast dew]

Migraine.

[visual knoll]

Confusion has caused me to say the wrong thing in chat

[fast dew]

Lyon core

[dark compass]

I would appreciate having my head torn off

[glass sluice]

don't make me get the spray bottle.

[fast dew]

I mean, that assumption wasnt wrong, there's just many classes

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-cat-cat-car-meow-explosion-gif-13527070362113797677

[dusky fox]

I’m assuming that’s why they had the class before talking about alternate realities and why the drifter exists

[fast dew]

Yes!

[glass sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/a-bugs-life-heimlich-caterpillar-scream-yell-gif-7957839

[dark compass]

In-game lore lesson

They even made you take a test on it

[fast dew]

Oh, remember Mother? From the family on deimos? She's the lady talking about it :)

[lean garden]

and people still fail after

[fast dew]

. She. She made the zariman tablets, didnt she? The questions

Oh my

[woven coyote]

It's a gigantic colony ship there were many children be it in class or not

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-kazuma-kiryu-chatroom-yakuza-yakuza6-gif-20165821

"Zariman eternalism test answers"

[lean garden]

not necessarily no

[dusky fox]

Interesting

[lean garden]

her works contributed to like

one question

[fast dew]

Several 😭

[lean garden]

outside the classroom bit

[fast dew]

Oh

mm.

[fast dew]

Yeah her family will become important later dw about it

[lean garden]

of the what? 30? 40? tablets in duviri I think only 1 contains the whatchamacallit of spacetime

palimpsest

[fast dew]

Palimpsest

[dusky fox]

I think I need to finish the entire quest line then cause a lot of questions I’m thinking of would probably be explained later

[fast dew]

Palimpsest of space-time....

[fast dew]

This is a good idea, but if you have a question, note it down somewhere

Also, i suggest ranking the entrati family up. It'll save you a great deal of. Annoyance later

And uh. Woe we end as we began buh bye back to drawing

[dark compass]

Bye bye

[fast dew]

Drawing religious themed shit today to uh

Marty Robbins

[dusky fox]

Oh yeah I’m rank 3 already, somebody suggested it for the helminth system I believe is what it was called

[fast dew]

Great! Are you in the middle of the new war? Because. You. Might have the answer to your first question already. Well. parts.

[lean garden]

nice, now bring it to r5

[fast dew]

:)

[dusky fox]

I’m at the part where I had to choose between the drifter and operator to save the lotus after their timelines met

[fast dew]

Mm. Good.

Only a bit left, my friend.

[idle fog]

name a Warframe that can beat this person

[lean garden]

Now if we just knew who the hell that is

[idle fog]

uhh the Herrscher Of Finality (Kiana Kaslana, HI3)

[fast dew]

Here's a tip

You cannot compare characters from different worlds and physics without having a standardised rank system that shows no bias

[glass sluice]

Is she stab proof? Because most WF's can use a skana pretty well.

imagine getting bodied by a mk-1 Skana.

[fast dew]

Its the one time i get to piss off power scalers to show that you can't compare the two with [guess what] Doom!

Tldr you cannot kill this thing unless you are this thing

[glass sluice]

The problem with other characters fighting WF's, is that you have to ignore the fact that they're all incredibly skilled soldiers, canonically, and can get back up after dying. Oh and the whole "void kid inside" thing.

[midnight ice]

oh jesus another powerscaling argument

[glass sluice]

Shh I'm enjoying this one.

[fast dew]

Nawh its not an argument

[midnight ice]

mimimimimi Hildryn 4 Infinite Enervate Bug

[strange plinth]

-# practically a 2 phase boss battle that the boss can get back up from

[fast dew]

But. however.

[glass sluice]

Imagine someone's favourite chracter going up against WF's, and then they get decked by a Limbo.

[fast dew]

I refuse to feed doomguy power scalers

So I never mention it

Because doom fans can get insufferable

Very much like warframe fans

[glass sluice]

(you know, technically, Doom Slayer was trapped in a coffin, so he's vulnerable to being put in stasis......

[midnight ice]

5 phases if we have 2 maxed arcanes

[fast dew]

Oh the sarcophagus

Thats not actually for him, it only works because of the blessing the seraphim gave

[glass sluice]

Shh, it's funnier if we say that Doomguy would lose vs Limbo. You aren't going to recover from that kinda embarrassment.

[strange plinth]

i was just counting frame + last gasp

[midnight ice]

if we have infinite ads we technically just cant die

[glass sluice]

The more interesting question is: fully geared up and Tauron awoken Tenno vs basically anyone else.

[fast dew]

Realistically he wouldn't be able to escape without. Harming himself

And that relies on hell being connected to the wf universe

[glass sluice]

We just call it "trade chat".

[fast dew]

Region is pretty bad too

[glass sluice]

I refuse to touch Region after the last time I was there.

[fast dew]

Yeah fair

[dark compass]

#warframe-general is often no better

Just less bigots

[heady quest]

Would it be valuable to have DE rework some of the codex descriptions?

Cause sometimes I come across an interesting enemy in the codex and all it ever says that it uses this gun and does a lot of damage

They don’t have to edit alllll the descriptions but with some enemies I feel like they deserve some backstory

[strange plinth]

some of them
-# *cough* ember prime *cough*
i think some of the more generic descriptions could use a little update, but nothing to prioritize

[heady quest]

Yeah but like for example. Nonnnn of the scannable bosses have a description?

like I kinda expected them to have a little text saying how much of a boss they are

However they did add some small little lore bits in the new undervallis enemies

And seeing how they are handling soulframe item descriptions, they can do a lot with them to add more worldbuilding to the everyday life of each faction

[restive river]

Soulframe and Warframe are made by different teams though, we can’t really compare how they implement their lore entirely due to that
You can compare tech tho

[heady quest]

That’s true yeah 😔

Codex is just such a buggy place man

I kinda wanna get hired by DE, just to work on the codex 😭

[feral cape]

This is like the most nothing burger of a statement ever

Battleboarding is literally built around this concept

[glass sluice]

The flaming hell is "battleboarding"?

[dark compass]

Like waterboarding

But you have to listen to powerscaling debates

[glass sluice]

And what is a "nothing burger"?

[dark compass]

About equal amount of torture

[feral cape]

Internet version of mashing two action figures together

Shipping is when you make kissing noise doing that

Its a fine line to walk

[dark compass]

Real ones solve issues like that in the certified guilty gear board game

[feral cape]

Have you never heard the phrase nothing burger?

[glass sluice]

No, I'm not american. I assume it's a yank thing.

or a terminally online one, idk

[fast dew]

Delightful

[glass sluice]

Why did you ping me with that comment?

[feral cape]

Like all the things you listed are the point of battleboaridng you take the things character A is stated and shown to do and stack them up with character B whoever is more better wins

[glass sluice]

So your reason to angrily ping me was to defend the idea of it, or complain that I'm not taking it seriously?

[midnight ice]

its the opposite of an everything bagel; its banal, senseless, pointless, a burger made of nothing. talking air, smoke up the ass, the sorts

[feral cape]

That your statement is just a nothing burger

[glass sluice]

That's not really a thing here either.

[fast dew]

Mm

[midnight ice]

with respect i just like modern linguistics

[fast dew]

Speaking out of your ass.

[glass sluice]

@feral cape So you pinged me because you feel like your hobby was attacked, and need validation over it.

[feral cape]

No thats just the default for discord replys

When you hit the reply button it does that unless you manually disable it

Thomas pinged me when responding to me

[fast dew]

Yup

[feral cape]

Its how the button works

[glass sluice]

I'm aware, I'm asking why did you send the message in the first place?

[feral cape]

Because your statement is a nothing burger

[glass sluice]

Oh dear god this is one of those things that just never ends.

Let's just keep the pings to non-existant from now on, I have no idea what you're trying to say and I have a feeling that I wouldn't care even if I did.

[feral cape]

Thats it your statement is a nothing burger

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-monkey-circle-happy-monkey-circle-happy-monkey-circle-meme-gif-19448999

It keeps happening

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-withrock-gif-27341353

[feral cape]

You seem silly saying that the problem with other characters fighting warframes is that warframes are x y and z when like the entire concept of putting A vs B is taking all things A and B can do and pitting them against eachother

[glass sluice]

A message that they had to scroll up to read, from over 2 hours ago.
and I just know they're going to try and make a snarky statement about this as a "gotcha".

[dark compass]

Powerscaling is lame because I say so

[glass sluice]

You know what: you're right, I don't give a toss.

[feral cape]

The message was there when I opened the chat

[dark compass]

I have the ultimate authority, you're not allowed to challenge me

[feral cape]

You do know you don't start at the bottom of a chat if people arnt actively talking

[glass sluice]

@dark compass I literally said the entire idea was silly and that I was enjoying it because it was dumb.
and then the "goku could beat up superman" crowd showed up.

[fast dew]

Uhhh

Look at what happened

Smooth map

[feral cape]

How'd you zoom out that much

[glass sluice]

scroll down.

[fast dew]

I didn't

Game broke

[glass sluice]

That happens a lot if your internet is 2-cans-on-a-string

[feral cape]

Not even remotely close to what I said

[fast dew]

No actually i moved to a place with FTTP!

[dark compass]

Sorry the string looked delicious

[fast dew]

Middle of nowhere

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-cable-fiber-bite-gif-16468772

[fast dew]

But its FTTP!

[feral cape]

What is that

Fttp

[lean garden]

stop doxxing me

[fast dew]

Fibre to the premise

[feral cape]

Ohhh

Neat

[glass sluice]

Tesltra told me it was "place".

[fast dew]

Best internet you can get here outside maybe satellite

[midnight ice]

file tagfer transfer protocol

[fast dew]

Yeah? Weird. That. Doesnt sound very specific 😭

Bcs place could also be read as FTTC

[lean garden]

Oh one of them Herrschers

[fast dew]

Fibre to the curb

[glass sluice]

mine is technically a hybrid-fibre coaxial.

[fast dew]

Ooh

[glass sluice]

yeah its connected by the old foxtel line, which is FUN

[glass sluice]

i think i managed to get mine zoomed out to the same, but the names are still there

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-withrock-gif-27341353

Well. Thats. Dumb.

[glass sluice]

look where i am is basically a fancy swamp, we take what we can get

well "wetlands"

[lean garden]

to answer this question if we're not talking in terms of HI3 gameplay, uuuuuuh Madam Final Herrscher might be blasting through a mighty amount based on what I roughly remember of the herrschers

[fast dew]

I live a hour from my pharmacy. Im sure you can get FTTC at least 😭

[glass sluice]

We recently got the speed upgrade, So my internet is no longer measured in how low below 100 they can get it before its breaking the law.

[feral cape]

I know those gacha games have really odd scaling

[fast dew]

BAH

Bro hold on lemme get it

[feral cape]

Hsr has weird platonism like persona going on and also apparently one dude ate a solar system

[lean garden]

very odd, but given that the herrschers have managed to reset reality, and that the final herrscher is allegedly supposed to be equivalent to all the rest...

[dark compass]

That was me

I ate a solar system

[heady quest]

Damn bro leave some for me

[fast dew]

I cant find it but i was getting below 1 megabit

[lean garden]

miyoho and their strange need to make something absurdly powerful but dressed up as a questionable female model

[fast dew]

On down

[dark compass]

Call me Praghasa the way i devour the sun while being braindead

[glass sluice]

ookla is what i use as a general check

[lean garden]

mmmm hongie

[fast dew]

I no longer live there but christ.

[feral cape]

Granted it could be the same situation as doom

But i dont play gacha

[fast dew]

Turns out resicare wifi sucks actual ass

[dark compass]

I saw this meme before

[heady quest]

Call me Hunhow because…. because….

[fast dew]

My beloved ♥️

[lean garden]

how the hun

[dark compass]

Are you drowning and retired?

[heady quest]

Damn didn’t thought of that

[feral cape]

My favorite games scaling also has like exact same thing going on but like 10x worse

[heady quest]

However retiring to Uranus sounds fun

[dark compass]

How does it feel to not be able to have children anymore

[fast dew]

How does it feel to have a uterus

I can tell you first hand, shit sucks

[heady quest]

Damn never had the pleasure to find out

[feral cape]

Because destinys actual lore has absurd shit going on because bungie rolled a dice of incomprehensible sides when deciding the abilities of characters

[glass sluice]

"retiring to uranus" and "not having children" sounds like 2 very unsubtle metaphors.

[heady quest]

There is no pun to be found…

[glass sluice]

Hunyaoi

[dark compass]

Let Hunhow have his uterus, don't erase history

[glass sluice]

I feel Simaris and Hunhow would hook up.

both talk way too loud in way too small a room.

[fast dew]

T4T lfg

[heady quest]

Pretty sure Hunhow just regrows his fingers

[fast dew]

Not for simaris, no just

[dark compass]

I thought Simaris is already with Suda

[heady quest]

Like imagine all the sentients are just his little fingers he got everywhere

[dark compass]

And Hunhow was a homewrecker

[fast dew]

Praghasa got him pregnant somehow

[dark compass]

Octavia's Anthem story

[dark compass]

He refers to his womb directly 2 times

[fast dew]

Void barren womb.....

[dark compass]

And both in context of having children

[heady quest]

Bro I recently replayed it and i don’t know where that story fits. Like it should be after second dream cause Lua is there right? But like don’t we sever his connection with us in the second dream?? How the hell would he be back in the weave?

[glass sluice]

Is this a "loretta from Life of Brian" situation?

[fast dew]

Only transmasc rep I got and its the racist warlord

[dark compass]

Understand: She haunts this place. Her light has marred the earth. She whispers in the sleeping machines. Through the disintegration of her flesh, she lives on.

In honor of my barren, Void-scarred womb I entrust Jade to you.

[fast dew]

Other than maybe Viktor. I see you viktor.

[glass sluice]

Wait a tic, is that the line where people think he literally has a womb?

[dark compass]

"My own daughter. The last of my womb. How can you do this?"

[fast dew]

Nup he deadass just has one

Ik, terrifying

Wouldn't wish it upon anyone

[glass sluice]

it's often used as a term for the "centre of life", as a metaphor.

[lean garden]

its before second dream iirc

[fast dew]

Oh..maybe roathe

[lean garden]

in between Natah and The Second Dream

[fast dew]

Screw you Roathe

• pcos + endo + over-active pelvic floor

[dark compass]

On one hand you may be right, but also

[heady quest]

Is Lua already available before second dream??

Because we go to Lua in Octavia’s anthem

[glass sluice]

It's like saying the "heart of a house" is the kitchen, it doesn't literally mean its the Monster House with organs.

[fast dew]

AND NO HYSTERECTOMY OR IUD TO EASE THE PAIN 💥 💥 💥

[dark compass]

"you don't get it the character saying he has a womb that's physically hurt and the one he has a daughter with is just symbolism it's not meant to be taken literally!! "

It's funnier that way sorry

[lean garden]

Huh right, then it has to be after TSD

[glass sluice]

I think I finally just "got" this channel.

[dark compass]

Someone should ask Rebb on tennovip

Who got pregnant in the relationship

[fast dew]

I will next year

[lean garden]

but also on further thought: we break his connection to war/stalker, this wont preclude him attacking the weave.

Beating up his employee aint mean he aint going to expand his business elsewhere

[dark compass]

Hi hello

[heady quest]

It might be that pragrassa has more husbands…

[dark compass]

People usually discuss stuff seriously here

[heady quest]

And they all got pregnant

[dark compass]

I'm just shitposting

And confirming information

[fast dew]

I'll also ask if Albrecht would do a flip if Loid asked

[heady quest]

Oh that is true yeah. Mmh

[strange plinth]

sure, but sentients do have wombs
one of their reproduction methods use it, when creating an entirely new sentient, as opposed to fragments
also called "the manifold" by Erra/Pazuul

[glass sluice]

Shitposting is fine, but when people get incredibly angry over their theory being disagreed with, then it becomes an issue.

[dark compass]

I have not participated here enough to see that happen

[heady quest]

Too bad I can’t be ragebaited

[glass sluice]

You've spoken to Thomas before.

[dark compass]

And I'm too dumb to make lore theories

[fast dew]

Sure the exit has manifolds
-# sorry nukebox stole that shit

[strange turtle]

I mean yeah it’s not a literal human womb, but he’s using the equivalent for a reason.

There’s a thing called a manifold and he can use it to have kids with another of his kind. It’s a robot womb

[dark compass]

You are authorized

[fast dew]

Thanks cro

[dark compass]

Jokes aren't meant to be kept captive

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/me-and-cro-cro-friends-cros-4lyfe-crow-cro-gif-12220323960039844963

[heady quest]

I just come here to say that we need more worldbuilding around the everyday life of each factions instead of too much story progression to the point everything else get’s left behind

[glass sluice]

If that is the case: sure. But running with it and using IRL regular terms about the whole thing feels just kinda weird.

[fast dew]

I hate the word womb

[dark compass]

We're kinda on a direct crashing and burning train to the end of the void arc

Can't really do that right now imo

[feral cape]

Thats why cephalon fragments and such are a thing

[fast dew]

Its apart of my therapy to distance myself from the shit that happened and look at it objectively

[heady quest]

Sure we can. In between updates like with the undervallis

[strange plinth]

the "void-scarred womb" is a big plot point when referring to the old war. they willingly took that scarring to put an end to the orokin
-# what's the wording in reaper's lament not reaper's, what was it. natah?
[Hunhow]: "We crossed the gap, wombs in ruin, to bring an end to this. We severed the worlds, let them destroy me, why is the sequence not complete?"

[dark compass]

Oh fair enough

[heady quest]

Or Follies hunt

[dark compass]

Yeah you've defeated me and my argument

[feral cape]

The synthesis scans and cephalon fragments should be used more

[fast dew]

Reaper...

[dark compass]

You completely destroyed me

[glass sluice]

honestly not a fan of the word either, but for very different reasons.

[fast dew]

God I played too much ultrakill, fraud ruined me

[dark compass]

Obliterated and killed

[feral cape]

They are ways de can expand the world of warframe without needing to make it part of the mainline story

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-loser-tiny-kitten-explode-gif-15623895175038521381

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-fraud-mirror-reaper-hello-chat-hello-gif-4369013222659601369

[heady quest]

Damn mb let me rebuild you

[heady quest]

NVM no more pieces left I see

[glass sluice]

@feral cape by having yet another 1-time use vendor.
god i wish they'd stop that.

[dark compass]

I am ephemeral

And ethereal

[glass sluice]

you are quite pale

[dark compass]

And dead, now that you killed me

And sad, and depressed

[heady quest]

Kinda true yeah 😂 I didn’t get that they didn’t reuse the hexis vendor but I am also not complaining for more hexis characters 😂

[dark compass]

And hungry

[fast dew]

I hate the mirror reaper... bastard scared me....

[glass sluice]

theyve hated me for too long, i cant take them seriously anymore.

[dark compass]

They made an infinite faction character generator with the ticker crew members

[glass sluice]

same as Meridian and the ball squad that they keep sending after me

[dark compass]

Meridian sending at you an army of roombas

And calling it a death squad

[heady quest]

I mean do we actually count them as characters?

[fast dew]

I was doing a lich mission and got jumped by new loka

[glass sluice]

ball death squad, sure.

[dark compass]

Well powerscalers use their quotes

[heady quest]

Who the hell are powerscalers??

[strange turtle]

Is that where the grineer bulkhead punch guy got it?

[dark compass]

Yeah

It's a quote from a meridian member

[fast dew]

Bulkhead...

Transformers................

[feral cape]

Use the reply feature

[glass sluice]

@feral cape No.

[fast dew]

Hes so me

[dark compass]

@glass sluice hi

[fast dew]

Bulkhead is so mecore

[glass sluice]

@dark compass Hey!

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-happy-jumping-gif-26555219

[strange turtle]

People who try to make organised rank system for characters and powers

[glass sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/fishwood-wrecking-ball-gif-14840574576127784304

[dark compass]

Nooooo whyyyyy

[fast dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952946035733438575/1461285583681753251/explode-1768467993232.gif

[glass sluice]

She wanted to be Miley Cyrus.

[strange turtle]

I say try because a lot of them are. Not great

[heady quest]

Alr but back to lore. The only interesting codex descriptions I found (other then ember and rhino prime I know I know) are the index people and the rathuum executioners.

They have some insides to everyday corpus and grineer life

[dark compass]

Which design though

[fast dew]

Mm, im a TFP enjoyer, personally

Grew up with the series

[heady quest]

But non of the bosses like vor and stuff have a description like wut???

[fast dew]

Shit got me into yaoi actually

[strange turtle]

The more recent ones have some interesting flavour text but yeah a lot of the early game ones are barren

[fast dew]

Fanfic in general was My immortal

But TFP was my yaoi

[dark compass]

I only know the TFA design, but it looks like they're basically identical lol

[heady quest]

Yeah also the undervallis enemies true

[fast dew]

TFA... is that in the aligned continuity?

[heady quest]

Although new loot descriptions are also slowly showing more and more interesting stuff

[fast dew]

Yuppers

So many things you can find

[glass sluice]

the force awakened had transformers? man did i miss parts of that movie.

[strange turtle]

Is this the one where there was that like. Cybertronian-human cyborg hybrid girl or something

[fast dew]

Yup

No its not apart of the AC

[dark compass]

It's not, I think.

[fast dew]

It took me remembering what the A stood for

[strange turtle]

Articulated

[fast dew]

Deadass a choice

[glass sluice]

Transfemmes articulated?

[dark compass]

Yes, and Soundwave was her pet

[strange turtle]

I got them mixed up with Shockwave for a second 😭

[dark compass]

This is literally the only transformers media I interacted with

[glass sluice]

oh transformers.

i feel like i missed out not watching that growing up

[fast dew]

You did

Shit was peak

[dark compass]

I only saw Animated on a bootleg dvd

That's my entire experience

[fast dew]

I watched TFP while in a homeless shelter lmao

Thomas lore drop

[heady quest]

Bro what if clem is a multidimensional being that transcends space time and can break through the ultimate void of the DEverse

[dark compass]

No

[strange turtle]

I mean Transfemmes Articulated is accurate to one of the versions of a character, so it was close enough

[fast dew]

ARCEE-

[strange turtle]

Can break through? You fool. He already has

[fast dew]

She. Was kinda annoying in prime but I do like her

John prodman has already

[heady quest]

I pray that clem finds mercy in us all….

[dark compass]

Clem's a comic character so

He started as such

His powers and presence extend beyond the warframe universe

[fast dew]

John prodman is

A smash, to be real

[dark compass]

Clem was added to commemorate the author of the comic passing away

[heady quest]

Wait wut?

[dark compass]

Yeah, Clem was originally a character from a comic series

Author passed away and DE added the quest as a memorial

[heady quest]

I must know what comic… I need to read it right now

[dark compass]

And an actual memorial in Iron Wake

[dark compass]

https://www.tumblr.com/datareaperver1/70112223035/the-chronicles-of-clem-grineer-lancer-who-wanted

Datareaper's Art

The Chronicles of Clem, Grineer lancer who wanted to be a Tenno.

Did a bunch of doodling last night in a thread and a kind anon made it into a chronicle for me!

Edit* split it into two pictures for better viewing.

Attempt number two*

-# #Grineer #Tenno #Ember #Loki #Excalibur #Comic #CLEM

Tumblr · Dec 15, 2013, 8:13 PM

It's not much, but the attention was massive enough

[heady quest]

Damnnnn

[dark compass]

I hate Prodman

His glyph specifically

Because I recognize the artstyle

https://tenor.com/view/el-macho-gru-recognizing-el-macho-recognize-seeing-oomf-irl-gif-372244127754047581

Straight up this

[bronze pier]

Clem was in the game before that, Datareaper also designed the Kronen, which is why it's at his shrine

[dark compass]

It's very clearly drawn by Gonzossm

And he used to make stupidly edgy animations on newgrounds back in the day

The minecraft one is incredibly infamous

[dark compass]

Oh yeah, I'm mostly talking about him as a "character"

It was not a thing before, right?

[bronze pier]

Clem was a meme back in... 2013? He was added to the game a few years after that. I'd have to check, but I wanna say 2015

[dark compass]

You seem to have the authority

[bronze pier]

Datareaper sadly passed away around 2020 if I remember

[dark compass]

Yep

[strange turtle]

What did Steve like, slaughter the villagers with Terraria levels of blood and gore or something

[dark compass]

No

I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get beaten with hammers by mods if I talk about the context

[bronze pier]

I STRONGLY suggest not looking into it

[dark compass]

☝️

[bronze pier]

Immediately triggered a flashback to it lmao. 11 year old me did not need to see that

It says something if 13 years later, I remember it still

[dark compass]

the moment I saw Prodman glyph

It made me remember

[bronze pier]

Also this isn't me being a dipstick. Genuinely, content that is very very unpleasant for most individuals. This was made in the edgy days of 2008-2012, and it was considered incredibly edgy by those standards

[heady quest]

yo apparently you can scan Hunhow in octavia's anthem XD why is he not in the codex though 😭

also the eradicator sentients in that gamemode

[lilac aspen]

Space mom clearly wants to keep his info secret

We are not ready to comprehend his Farmer Body level stats.

Too powerful for the system to handle

[jaunty siren]

is it possible that the next tennocon they'll reveal all the folks who have met the indifference prior to us

maybe not all but some

[tall echo]

albrecht

that's it

he explicitly states that no one else has encountered him since, and rell's stuff was after we shook hands with him

[midnight ice]

he mentions that the orokin has gone on countless void travels and yet he's the only one that ever saw the Indiffy

[fast dew]

Which is why the only way for Roathe to know is from the POM2

[radiant pier]

woah what is

HAS NORA NIGHT KILLED PEOPLE

that was a cool story

[tall echo]

no? what

[radiant pier]

oh

so what was that....story

with the whole...they grow old, you remember, they don't etc etc

[tall echo]

a story

you might notice that nora isn't old

[radiant pier]

the grow old is referring to the other person

[tall echo]

...it's not like people can grow old at the same time

[opaque zenith]

That's just a story she quotes, like when she quotes old sayings (people talking about the weather) or philosophers (If nothing saves us from death)

[radiant pier]

thank you

[opaque zenith]

Nvm wrong one

[radiant pier]

oH

[opaque zenith]

"It can be tough as a kid. All sorts of people have it over you. People will kill you inside, kill you and forget your name. You grow up. They grow old. You remember. They don't. They just keep doing what they've always done. Only to someone else. Then, one day, they call you friend. And you wait. And you wait. You wait 'til they can't trust you any more than they do. And then you ask them if they enjoyed their dinner. And, looking into their panicked eyes as they gasp their last, you tell them your name. And you nod. 'Yeah', your eyes say to theirs. 'That was me'. And then you leave. And the System is a better place. Be smart, Dreamers."

Big quote, but I think is just some paraphrase from some poet

[radiant pier]

ahhh, okok, thank you very much

[opaque zenith]

noteworthy that I didn't found any real life equivalent in my short search

[radiant pier]

why hasn't wally just yk

altered all of reality and kill us

actually wait no don't answer that

[dark compass]

There is an answer though

[lean garden]

if a character you think could do just that hasnt, what do you think that means?

[radiant pier]

they're bored asf

[dark compass]

Actual answer is that there's a finger somewhere out there

It binds the creature to reality

[fast dew]

Dw they know

[dark compass]

Oh they do

[fast dew]

I think i yelled about it. Not. That wasn't them

[radiant pier]

you're hilarious

[dark compass]

You betrayed me Joel the Duck

[fast dew]

Bro im funny as shit

[dark compass]

Your punishment is death

[fast dew]

I was being bullied by

[radiant pier]

what'd I even do

[dark compass]

In the form of a gif of a cat being blown up

[fast dew]

The ropapapaplyst

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-loser-tiny-kitten-explode-gif-15623895175038521381

[radiant pier]

didn't you fall off

[dark compass]

Who

[fast dew]

Me? Yeah

[dark compass]

I never fall off

Because I'm already on the floor

[fast dew]

I did. I got bullied.

My wisp has no survivability if I stand still [obviously]

[radiant pier]

survivability?

you jumped and missed

[fast dew]

MULTIPLE TIMES

[dark compass]

We all have bad days

Like the one I'm having rn

[radiant pier]

did y'all see me like

very clearly miss the ropaptowprow in full view or just a glimpse

[fast dew]

Same!

Im incredibly anxious and I cannot do any of the things that alleviate said anxiety

[radiant pier]

have you tried not missing

[fast dew]

Without ruining. 8 thousand dollars

[lean garden]

the rolypoly?

[fast dew]

Yeah we played together and we kept missing or id get grabbed by it in the fire the beam time

Oh and we got ganked by 3-4 eximus voidrigs I think

[dark compass]

And I'm sitting on the job with what feels like cold

Yet the time is flying alarmingly fast

[fast dew]

Real

[dark compass]

Shift ends in like 2 hours but going outside would be complete shit

[fast dew]

I went to do dinner and. When I blinked my eyes involuntarily rolled back and it hurt so bad

[dark compass]

It's -35°. in March.

[radiant pier]

I got on the rolypoly for the first time

[dark compass]

I am sending my care and attention. It will directly scale to how much you believe in me as a metaphysical deity

[fast dew]

Yeah after I decimated it what. The first 2 times?

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-pet-cat-cat-pet-cute-cat-gif-24810247

I believe in you, Thomas

[radiant pier]

I asked them if I could do the last one

[fast dew]

And i am eagerly awaiting it

[radiant pier]

and they both stopped in their tracks

to watch me miss and die

[fast dew]

BAHAJA

Not as bad as the amount of times I mucked up going to extraction

[strange turtle]

Too big to fit 😔

[storm wharf]

Question I’ve been dying to ask but never had enough WF friends to discuss with

What do yall think is up with the power of Song in warframe

Because singing is mentioned in a lot of powerful contexts

[strange turtle]

Unfortunately we don’t really get any hints to anything more or anything connecting it

So for now it just seems to be that DE really fw music powers

[storm wharf]

It comes up a lot tho

The angels of the zariman are described as corrupting thru song

A song that was pulling the louts before 1999

And strangely, the other people using song is the sentients

Roathe claims their singing straight up EMP’d a cruiser from orbit

If I had to wager why getting to tau is so important it’s because the secrets of the Sentients and their songs are there, with those songs possibly being able to weaken or nullify the void

[strange turtle]

Right, and I acknowledged that, there’s even more than what you’ve listed.

I’m just saying that DE haven’t really acknowledged that or hinted about anything to do with how much of it there is, unless there’s some random comment from a devstream I missed and didn’t hear about

[storm wharf]

Ah

Sure I’m just theorizing lol

~~My friends don’t play Warframe lol I don’t get to talk lore with people ~~

[strange turtle]

Also I think the Roathe bit was just him being dramatic, we’ve already had some descriptions and a whole event surrounding the tech stuff and it just seemed to be a normal thing

Though they could always just add it on top and say that they just, sang in code or something and not verbally

[storm wharf]

I mean we know they have emp tech, orphixes

And those being able to disable warframes was recent

[storm wharf]

Also I’m curious what did I miss?

I know there’s like Adis obviously

[strange turtle]

This stuff isn’t nearly as directly connected, and them meaning anything very much relies on the stuff you mentioned having significance but:

Jade has a song themed ability, and only one variation of it is connected and fit to her original purpose and design (so the other two could potentially be her own creation), though it does fit her angel theme so who knows.

Voidtongue features a lot in music, while also being linked to magicky Void stuff. I wouldn’t bring usually this up as something that could be relevant but it’s the only WF language to get special treatment for music, even after we got Sentient language and music.

[restive lantern]

NGL I was like damn they are bard that's sick lol

[storm wharf]

god i love whenever wally gets on the mic voidtongue goes hard

[opaque zenith]

...Why did my brain imagined Wally with an asmr mic...

[storm wharf]

He would do asmr

[opaque zenith]

[ASMR][Military zealot talks gibbresh till you go mad from otherwordly knowledge] (5mi views)

[strange turtle]

-# at a single, random point throughout the video there’s a quietly mumbled slur for alchemists

[opaque zenith]

-# 3 dislikes from Lavos and the snakes, Entrati was shadowbanned from the channel since the start

[storm wharf]

-# entrati is filing copyright strikes bc Wally uses his voice

[opaque zenith]

-# AI (Atemporal Indifference) Training

[lean garden]

I think the approach is all wrong

Music important yes, but I dont think its about the music

I think its about the psyche that hears the music

now thats in line with all the void shit

[sharp breach]

Did we choose the stalkers babys gender when we named them or are they lore wise always a certian gender?
Is it even relevant to ask since warframes dont have proper organs to assign gender?

[dark compass]

I think we just chose a name

One that Stalker would've wanted and one that Jade would've wanted

Signified by colors

[restive river]

Stalker’s the one’s actually choosing in the same way when Lotus was choosing which identity to lead

[restive river]

Warframes are still humans and since pieces of their identity still shine through (the idle anims) then their gender identity can too
Flare for instance, who is Nonbinary

[ashen pulsar]

Took me a bit to remember that stalker can speak

[restive river]

He doesn’t need to speak to choose his kid’s name
But that would help yes

[lilac aspen]

The Baby is definitely unique and I am patiently waiting to see where it leads to in the future of Warframe

[restive river]

They’re unique for sure but they still have human DNA to some extent

[dark compass]

Stalker and the boy, like Kratos and Atreus

[restive river]

Real

[ashen pulsar]

sure, but if he didn’t, why would the choice matter
nobody would ever know

[dark compass]

[restive river]

He’d know

Also he could write it lol

Him being able to speak it is ofc helpful for his kid cause
They will now know their name

I wonder if Stalker will practice his speech more specifically to communicate and teach his child

[lilac aspen]

”Boy, use your 4.”

”Boy, if you spam your 1 too many times, you will run out of energy.”

[dark compass]

”There are consequences to killing a Tenno”

[restive river]

The consequence is they come back but angry

[storm wharf]

“Boy, im going to level with you; the Tenno will slap you upside the head with literally any weapon known to man. They can make it work, I’ve seen it.”

[ocean geyser]

Had the stupid idea of someone randomly stretching Wally’s model to the pitch of each word he speaks

DE should do this :3

[wooden cave]

finally the toxic yaoi couple is revealed (I got to see the messages albrecht sends concerning why he left loid and such)

YOU
SHOO
I'M TRYING TO BUILD

[tall echo]

I haven't seen that text before

[loud oriole]

i think its post 1999 prelude or in that area

[strange plinth]

looks like they're building the gargoyle then

[wooden cave]

ye

built it
did rest of quest

fragmented tide sucked like hell to fight

suzerain even more

[split kite]

I had a thought yesterday is the man in the wall really evil? I can't think of a single evil thing that he has done.

[strange plinth]

made our parents go insane and then gave us the tools to kill them

the murmur are always attacking the labs + trying to kill us, the murmur are part of the man in the wall
attempting to rewrite duviri and kill everyone in there

[split kite]

Hmm I forgot about the whole parent killing thing

[strange turtle]

Also he made a whole colony on Mars go crazy and try to dig a whole straight through to Deimos on the other side

They didn’t even do nothing, mf was just in a bad mood ig

[restive river]

Wally has
Many a crime

[fast dew]

Wanna know something even better?

[wooden cave]

sure

[fast dew]

He tormented an autistic boy for possibly over a thousand years.

[wooden cave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1192319330734571560.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=CONCERN

[fast dew]

So, yk the song that plays? Idk if i told you yet, but there's a song that plays during that cutscene and when translated, its a whole ass love confession

Very sad actually very sad 0/10 wouldnt recommended listening

[wooden cave]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

also FINALLY

1999

finally I can access peak x2

[fast dew]

Behold my heart, fill my heart fiercely.

Eternal union, eternal union, I am your counterpart.

Behold my heart

Fill my heart fiercely

Hey so what if I just die actually

[eager briar]

What builds did the Atlas that punched a meteor have?

[fast dew]

I can punch a meteor without one

[restive river]

The best one

[fluid rapids]

Somebody explain to me the old peace

I have absolutely no clue what I just played through

[dusty dragon]

What's the lore behind Hydroid?

[strange plinth]

brief overview - old peace is a brief period of peace in the middle of the old war, signed when the sentients started gaining individuality due to the xenoflora, then ended when all of the xenoflora was killed due to the world-seeders' activation

[strange plinth]

there's not much afaik, just his prime trailer, which doesn't give much more than his general theming

[restive river]

Operator uses a machine to revisit locked away memories
Said memories were during a time of peace during the Old War
In it they recall they had a Sentient as a friend, Adis
They do their best to stop the rebelling Dax, the Anarchs
Get given codes to deactivate the terraforming egg but activate it instead (they got lied to)
Adis dies and shares his light with the Operator who did die but now is alive
Operator finds Uriel and attacks their school now that the war is back due to Ballas orchestrating things
In an attempt to confront Ballas they instead find Margulis, their adoptive mother who puts them to sleep and seals away the memories of the Old Peace

[fluid rapids]

I see

[restive river]

To add clarification to this, the Xenoflora are the only known alien life in the Warframe universe and they only brought individuality to Sentient fragments (an example of a fragment would be the War sword from Hunhow)

[fluid rapids]

But why did the operator kill Adis

They acted like it was ritual

[restive river]

The Operator and Adis fought cause Adis misunderstood and wanted to kill Margulis, our adoptive mother

We both died in that fight but Adis revived us before he passed away

[fluid rapids]

So ballas manipulated the operator and adis

[restive river]

Yup

[fluid rapids]

And we’re the whole reason ballas got to do what he got to do because we saved him?

[restive river]

We reactivated the big egg which started the terraforming process which kills the Xenoflora

[fluid rapids]

Ah

[restive river]

We didn’t save him

The coward left before we got to the school

Well we did save him during the quest but that was under orders

[fluid rapids]

Well I mean the egg transport hungy

[strange plinth]

technically? he probably wasn't at any real risk, though, as the dax attacking the palanquin wouldn't be able to harm him anyway

[fluid rapids]

Were the orders not from him though

[restive river]

Yeah we saved him there but didn’t know it was him

[fluid rapids]

I guess

[restive river]

They woulda been kinda yeah

[fluid rapids]

So the operator was manipulated, used, and gave way for ballas to rule over or smth?

[restive river]

Not to rule but to bring the war back on

[fluid rapids]

Yeah

[restive river]

Cause the Orokin wanted Tau for themselves

[tall echo]

I want to kill the warden just to get to kill a form of ballas

[fluid rapids]

Also why did lotus (or whatever her name was) have gouged eyes

[restive river]

Ballas is part of a group called The Seven, they rule in the stead of the Emperors

[tall echo]

margulis

[fluid rapids]

Ohhhh

[restive river]

That’s Margulis, not Lotus
A Tenno burned out her eyes

[tall echo]

"blinded, she cast him out"

[strange plinth]

margulis, they were burned out by a tenno
which one is unclear, top contenders are us or rell

[fluid rapids]

Wait then why did the marg look like lotus

[lean garden]

other way around

[restive river]

We don’t know what blinded means here
Was she blinded by him or is she ableist?
Or both

[fluid rapids]

Lotus looks like marg

[lean garden]

that's it

[restive river]

Cause Lotus was modeled after Margulis

[fluid rapids]

Why that

[restive river]

Ballas

[tall echo]

[fluid rapids]

Was marg his wife or smth

[tall echo]

it is definitely supposed to refer to being blinded

[restive river]

Margulis died (his fault btw) and he made Lotus look like her, partially to control the Tenno but also cause he’s a freak and missed his partner who he was awful to

[fluid rapids]

Ah right I remember now

I watched a video on it

[restive river]

I can see it going either way tbh

[fluid rapids]

Ballas the worst fr

[tall echo]

[fluid rapids]

Are the other 6 relevant

[fast dew]

Kinda

[restive river]

Kinda

[tall echo]

more or less

[fast dew]

And nihil isnt one of them, if the video is old

[tall echo]

one of em is kinda irrelevant, tormis

[restive river]

Tuvul is why the Zariman exists

[tall echo]

scarne was behind the void towers

[fast dew]

Niktohk is. Responsible for a lot.

[fluid rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/nihil-nihil-nihil-mogh-elden-ring-nihil-nihil-mogh-elden-ring-gif-25654726

[tall echo]

nitokh wanted to remove the empire out of boredom

[restive river]

Karrish had grafted on stomachs and was eaten by Grendel

Yeah Nitokh is why the Anarchs were capable of fighting back at all

[tall echo]

I wonder if nitokh would be grateful for the tenno eventually killing all the other orokin

[restive river]

Tormis made first contact with the Sentients iirc (once they made it to Tau) but other than dude is just buff

[tall echo]

iirc she did vanish as soon as roach left

[restive river]

Oh and Avantus is dead
That’s
It for her lol

[tall echo]

oh right avantus was one of them

[fast dew]

She was mildly against grineer and got ganked for it

[restive river]

She has a. Paint brush???

[restive river]

They were all racist to them lol

[fast dew]

Ehh, I don't think it looks like one personally

[fluid rapids]

Warframe lore too complicated to follow

[tall echo]

not really

[restive river]

Eh it depends

[fast dew]

Shit to do with the void is always weird

[tall echo]

it just needs like, 6% more brain power than the gameplay(which needs -5%)

[restive river]

You could maybe think of the lore as a river, it might split off the big main stream has everything that’s important

[fast dew]

True but those were some grineer with. Idk no fear bcs wdym you just. Murdered her

[restive river]

I’d say it’s easier to overcomplicate it yourself rather than it itself being complicated

[restive river]

The saw in the spine was based

She deserved it

[strange plinth]

ghoulsaw skin w/ avantus's spine when /s

[restive river]

No
Wait
You’re cooling actually

If Kuva Ghoulsaw is good then I’d use that constantly

By the void please be GOOD 😭

[graceful drum]

So how will they fix the generational clone cancer if this guy: couldnt

[tall echo]

he almost did, then we killed him

and it's not clone cancer it's clone rot

[ashen pulsar]

probably wont
sorry elite lancer

[tall echo]

grineer actively decay as soon as they exit the toob

[graceful drum]

[twin wigeon]

i mean they're foot soldiers or cannon fodder

grineer just send more and more troops, corpus upgrade their troops fire power with heavier robots like hyenas and raptors and such

[wooden cave]

the thing is grineer care about their cannon fodder

corpus don't give a damn about their crewman
so long as they make some creds

[twin wigeon]

oh yeah i guess that is true

maybe thats the grineer's motivation to kill us bc we kill their brothers + the queens keep yelling at them

corpus want creds

infested want to kill us maybe to reclaim our warframe for the helminth or because they're mostly mindless?

[fast dew]

Mind. Full i think

Too much mind but thats good they want more into one mind

[twin wigeon]

oh so mind overload

whats the murmur's reason for hating us? is it just bc wally dislikes us or what

[brittle siren]

Just to be clear, 7 Orokin Emperors is not the same as 7 Executor right?

[brittle siren]

They are the extension of Wally, and he hate human a lot because the Orokin steal his finger

[twin wigeon]

but wally tolerates us tho

us specifically and ig also baro for some reason

[brittle siren]

He did not, he almost drowned us in Old Peace

[twin wigeon]

that was the murmur acting independently

[brittle siren]

???????

Murmur is HIM

Everything Murmur did is by his order, and they all born from him

[midnight ice]

he said (isleweaver or smth else) that the void powers were a gift(?) for us, contrast to the orokin that "butchered" them

[twin wigeon]

in the hex quest, wally says he given us his power freely

[strange plinth]

correct, the executors act on the emperors's will

[twin wigeon]

but the orokin butchered, by stealing his finger and replicating it

[midnight ice]

right

[brittle siren]

Free here means Drifter got void power via OP

Which has no downside whatsoever

[strange plinth]

and we still owe him, then he added the grimoire page to the deal in whispers, and we disobeyed
definitely negative relations with him after that

[brittle siren]

OP still bound by the contract

[brittle siren]

Technically I think only the OP owe Wally, Drifter is getting everything for free

[strange plinth]

meh, wally has a different reason to dislike drifter regardless of the deal
which is taking hollvania from him

[twin wigeon]

i think OP and Drifter are the same souls with different upbringings and so contract still applies to the both of them

according to the codex, the indifference or namely The Fragmented bosses are heralds that serve their master, wally

it might suggest that the murmur have their own will but mostly exist to serve wally, so wally doesn't control them?

idk im just throwing ideas out there about wally's control over his experiments with anatomy and such

[wooden cave]

is there a lore reason behind gordon freeman being in the 1999 lobby area

[strange plinth]

nah he's just there

[wooden cave]

-# only kidding

I think it'd be hilarious if DE struck up a collab with valve tho for warframe

can see some good things coming from thaf

[dark compass]

Well that was literally your collab

Gordon Freeman in 1999

[wooden cave]

that's not a collab that's a reference

[dark compass]

It's a direct appearance idk

But fair enough, would be cool to have like

A crowbar melee skin

[wooden cave]

HEV suit or the hl2 rebel suit for the operator/drifter

[dark compass]

Ax-52 in primary
Protokol pistol in secondary
Crowbar in melee

Grineer shall fear us

[wooden cave]

doesn't even have to be half life per say

[dark compass]

HEV suit for the kiddo definitely could work

[wooden cave]

I can imagine portal and TF2 glyphs and sigils being added

[dark compass]

Could even have the helmet

With closed/open form

[dark compass]

I don't think they even want to acknowledge that tf2 exists anymore

[wooden cave]

valve?
yes they do

[strange plinth]

Neci Rusalka: [giggles] "My herald looked like you, once."
Neci Rusalka: "This is your future."
Neci Rusalka: "I have uses for dealbreakers."
Neci Rusalka: "How will I reassemble your pieces?"
isleweaver wally dialogue about the fragmented, if that impacts anything

[fast dew]

I like to believe that Albrecht played halflife

[strange plinth]

-# if either of those two are being ignored, its portal

[dark compass]

Oh?

[fast dew]

And doom. I like to think he used it as a benchmark

[wooden cave]

they've made big updates for it in the last like 3-4 years
entire new gamemode got added

[dark compass]

Oh that's good

[fast dew]

PORTAL MY BELOVED

[midnight ice]

they forgot my beautiful wife glados

[dark compass]

Didn't know

[fast dew]

Shit used to scare me though

[fast dew]

Oh yeah we got the final comic

[dark compass]

Once Deadlock comes out we will have 5 million meet the team like animations

[wooden cave]

consistent bug fixes and ofc the holiday cosmetic updates

[fast dew]

We shoudlve had the damn adult swim shorts. Shit would be awesome

[midnight ice]

issue 7 came out and i swear all my groups lit on fire

[fast dew]

Oh and we saw the spy's face

[dark compass]

Meet The Doorman will be the best piece of media ever created

[fast dew]

Hes pretty

His name is like. Eugene last i heard

He looks like a Eugene

[wooden cave]

but on the topic of a warframe + valve stuff collab
chell's long fall boots (the things that negate fall damage in portal) as leg cosmetics

uhhh
literal valve on the back of ur warframe's head as a helmet cosmetic

[fast dew]

Nah have a potato as a. Accessory for our weapons

[wooden cave]

or no
a signa

[dark compass]

Chell inspired Nova skin

[wooden cave]

truee

[dark compass]

Potato sugatra

[fast dew]

[midnight ice]

theyll talk about it through the centuries... ill ask my hiking lead how far are we through the mountain and theyd say "Meet The Deadlock animation" and ill shed a tear because i know its peak

[dark compass]

Geniunely can't wait for the marketing to start. I'm expecting a nuke of cultural impact

You can't just have Valve animations and the character power this game has to not produce such an effect

[fast dew]

It honestly should be studied

[dark compass]

There's already like 6 million video essays on why deadlock is special and how stellar the character design is

[fast dew]

The valve effect or something

[dark compass]

Though having a cast of 40 something characters will demand more than meet the team videos for each

[fast dew]

Tbf they made one about the sandvich

[dark compass]

Maybe a thematic trailer covering a part of the world a bunch of characters belong to

[fast dew]

I genuinely make my carers sit down when a new person comes in and I explain the whole lore the best I can and its so funny

The meet the team videos are great

[dark compass]

I'm expecting the same level of quality from deadlock animations, surely

[fast dew]

Tis one of the signs I actually like you ykm? "Oh you'd like this lemme show you" serves as a love language cus it means im thinking about what you'd like yk

[fast dew]

Same tbh. Id watch the shit out of them

[dark compass]

https://youtu.be/kb5_xGKJKhk

You can call it a sneak peek, someone online uploaded this to their art portfolio

[dark compass]

Haven't had the luxury to experience that, sorry

[fast dew]

Dw ill just yap at you then

Youre getting the treatment too

[dark compass]

Deal!

[uneven dune]

🤔I forgot if somewhere told about why ballas in new war changed into a creature looks like Infested ones

[fast dew]

Not infested, Amalgamated

He's partially sentient now.

... I am now realising how funny that statement is without the context of what a sentient is

[ashen pulsar]

yep

he's only semi sentient

[fast dew]

He can recognise himself but not understand himself or whatever

[dusty dragon]

Now I know we chopped off Lord Ballsack's Ballsack, but why did he look like that?

Slowly getting worse.

[tall echo]

No we just shanked his liver

[dusty dragon]

So he was dying of noliveritus?

But why did he look like that?

[midnight ice]

amalgamated with a sentient for funsies or smth

[tall echo]

Everything below the stab area was replaced

[ashen pulsar]

many people these days are highly allergic to getting stabbed, it's honestly a problem that needs to be addressed

smh my head

[tall echo]

No one knows why

[fast dew]

High chance we hit his spine.

[dusty dragon]

I guess he didn't want his lordly Ballsack anymore

[tall echo]

Nah, it was pretty far to the side

[fast dew]

Ehh, did we see the entry point?

[tall echo]

Then again maybe orokin spines are just
)

[tall echo]

Yes

[dusty dragon]

What if the orikin moved their spines around for funsies?

[midnight ice]

genetically modified to be in cursive

[dusty dragon]

Scoliosis for aesthetics?

[tall echo]

The stab was in the lower left(his left) stomach area

[fast dew]

Can you get a screenie i wanna see if the exit would align to it not going straight through

[fast dew]

Oh did we stab him from the front?

I genuinely cannot remember the sacrifice

[dusty dragon]

I don't remember what happened, I did the quest a couple weeks ago.

Or was it a couple months?

[fast dew]

Dark refractory time

[midnight ice]

quest that makes you forget that you did it:

[fast dew]

Maybe thats why Albrecht made the dark refractory

[tall echo]

...yes

[fast dew]

Oh then it absolutely could've gone through his spine if it entered at a angle

[tall echo]

Prick was going eye to eye with umbra to assert dominance, got shanked

[fast dew]

theres a lot of structure inside your body that'll change the direction of a sword or smthn, and it would be pretty hard to get it straight through

[tall echo]

It's a straight stab followed by what should be a VERY lethal cut to go into the usual "non-controlled frame" A-pose

[fast dew]

His hipbones wouldve been my biggest bet.

[tall echo]

Stab was higher

Nothing very solid in the way

[fast dew]

... do we know where his hips are

I wish the human body was squishy enough to feel where my spine is

[tall echo]

._.

[dusty dragon]

Why is umbra the only one that does the thing?

[tall echo]

Forced sapience

[dusty dragon]

Is he just so pissed off at Ballsack that he decided to be a people again?

[fast dew]

He wears a long ass dress thing dude idk where his hips start or not 😭 he has no definition

[tall echo]

I ask you to go do the quest again and pay attention this time

[tall echo]

You're an artist can you really not identify that through the clothes

[fast dew]

Some people genuinely have no hips bro 😭 and what we could see as his hip could be the joint if his femur

[tall echo]

Excuses

[dusty dragon]

Yeah, I probably will forget in a couple weeks again. I know we built him even though ordis said that it was a bad idea. I know we had to go look for him. I know Ballsack made him play space Go to save his family and he cheated. I know that Warframes are people that were infected by the orikin to be war machines, and that Umbra is weird.

[woven coyote]

So you are saying shakira was wrong and the hips do lie

I'll see myself out

[fast dew]

Bro we hit his spine we absolutely did 😭

[tall echo]

Hmmmmmm

[dusty dragon]

I remember

[fast dew]

Tldr the hip is usually muscle/fat smoothing over the area between the pelvis and femur, but when folk use "hip" its usually the pelvis bone they refer to, not the distance between the two

[dusty dragon]

He used his special orikin powers so we couldn't stab his ass and then we did a tag team and now we're both umbra and operator.

It's why teshin couldn't stab the queens and needed us to do it

[fast dew]

The width is usually from the femur as that sticks out more than the pelvis

[fast dew]

Thats a seperate thing, but close enough to it

[dusty dragon]

I really liked new war

[fast dew]

I have been made aware we have pigeons in 1999.

Nothing can say how incredibly excited I am.

[glass sluice]

Eleanor ate one a few months back, if that helps.

[blissful merlin]

Oh-

But uhhhh bird or bird like companions when?

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[fast dew]

There are pigeons specifically bred for eating

They get massive!

Ive fostered a pair myself

[uneven dune]

honestly why we have to pay for building items in Foundry

[fast dew]

As in credits?

[dark compass]

Helminth paycheck

[uneven dune]

are we renting this ship from Ordis

[dusty dragon]

I imagine it's like a tax on goods produced.

[midnight ice]

eviction notice on the transference room door

[fast dew]

Perhaps theres something in the credits the helminth needs

[woven coyote]

The devs used to have a blog post where players asked questions that were answered in character by a cephalon named cordylon

Someone once asked that question and this was what they answered

Hekkin love the last paragraph