#lore-discussion

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restive river
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The Lidless Eye loves to watch

woven coyote
fast dew
woven coyote
fast dew
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And he knows wally is watching

restive river
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Also that big eye nebula in the cold below
Prob not him but uh
Its weird lol

midnight ice
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i like how the lidless eye/murmur eyes look like Pinkerton Security's old logo

restive river
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Especially with what the cold below represents

midnight ice
mental herald
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Sisters below below

restive river
midnight ice
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all void storms have the eye-shaped nebula enroaching iirc

restive river
tall echo
mental herald
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We're all bound down to the deep and we'll all be sleeping in the cold below below

fast dew
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I think we should be allowed to inform Mother about duviri IvaraSippy

restive river
woven coyote
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just waltz up to her "didn't hekkin work"

restive river
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She can’t even go there

fast dew
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Yeah but she's getting help! She deserves it, as a treat

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Mother is. Such a interesting character

tall echo
woven coyote
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Golether

fast dew
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Eulaither

tall echo
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owl leather

woven coyote
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lol

fast dew
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She does kinda remind me of an owl sorta

tall echo
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who?

fast dew
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Mother

woven coyote
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lmao

fast dew
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Like how Albrecht looks like a rat

strange plinth
tall echo
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I just annoyed myself with that joke

tall echo
woven coyote
fast dew
strong viper
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And here i thought they were all worms

restive river
normal mountain
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worms...
Why did it have to be worms...

fast dew
restive river
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Too many things are called worms in this game lol

fast dew
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WHERE IS IT

strong viper
fast dew
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HOLD MY HATS

strange plinth
normal mountain
woven coyote
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vay hek calls everything maggot

tall echo
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vay hek was cloned from a drill sergeant

strong viper
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But drill sergeant is a nurtered state not a genetic one

woven coyote
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a particularly dumb one

strange plinth
strong viper
fast dew
tall echo
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all drill sergeants are secretly born with a specific gene

woven coyote
strong viper
normal mountain
strong viper
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Men like that sure gave Churchill a job xD

normal mountain
# woven coyote

Then had him fed to a pit of Ghouls
Truly, an evil mastermind

woven coyote
normal mountain
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We need a Tengus boss fight

strange plinth
# woven coyote

i'd ask for the context behind this but i feel like there isn't any
and i'm not sure which would be funnier

restive lantern
strange plinth
woven coyote
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then fed him to ghouls

fast dew
woven coyote
restive river
normal mountain
fast dew
strong viper
normal mountain
strong viper
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Fafnir

normal mountain
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Wyrmius the Golden

woven coyote
fast dew
strong viper
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Yeah, something palpable

normal mountain
fast dew
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Wyrmlings...

woven coyote
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fix the funny little man

normal mountain
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Wyrmius the Wyrm Lord

strange plinth
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fix the funny little man-

strong viper
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Lingwyrm

fast dew
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Do you think the courtiers feel paternal/maternal towards them as wyrms

woven coyote
normal mountain
woven coyote
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maggots!!

normal mountain
woven coyote
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also long worm

fast dew
fast dew
woven coyote
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we should have long worm as an emot we could stack like that twitch octopus

fast dew
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Orowyrm emote....

tall echo
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we need a MAGGOTS sticker

restive river
wooden cave
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WHY ARE YOU HERE

woven coyote
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because

wooden cave
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I believe she wants me to revisit the zariman again
because she disappeared right after

restive lantern
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Space trauma.... Hell of a thing lol

wooden cave
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hmph
gonna level up my drifter more beforehand

ashen pulsar
fast dew
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We could argue that wally is a manifestation of Albrecht's trauma?

ashen pulsar
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mmm
not the trauma itself, the traumatic event

fast dew
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I always find it interesting how folk forget his ass is mega traumatised

restive river
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I know it’s so much bigger but the idea of this weird entity being birthed from just tripping or stubbing your toe or something is funny

fast dew
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id say the fall and impact mightve been the start

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i couldnt imagine how hard he hit the floor

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actually

tall echo
fast dew
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i can

restive river
fast dew
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mm. is it wild of me to say that some folk probably forget that albrecht has trauma cus hes masculine? its like. a weird pattern ive noticed with other masculine characters that would hate trauma too [doomguy being an example]

restive river
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Our character can be masculine
Ordis is maculine
Uh. Who else had trauma that’s masculine or can be lol

fast dew
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id argue that ordan suffers from it too

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ordis is closer to what loid is, on the gender spectrum, yk?

restive river
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Ordan had to slaughter for the Orokin
Ordis uncovered who he used to be and literally self harms

fast dew
restive river
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Also yeah Loid would be on the list
Cav and Quinn too

fast dew
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You see folk romanticise what Ordan does a lot [much like doomguy lol] but they refuse to acknowledge that he has issues and trauma

restive river
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I highly recommend re-watching Ordan/Ordis’ story btw

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Ofc be prepared for the self harm aspect of the story

fast dew
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What im tryna say is that some folk will acknowledge Loid's trauma, but refuse to acknowledge his hand in what happened to the cavia, but with Albrecht, its. All he is, this evil man with no reason as to why

fast dew
restive river
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I think anyone who pays just the slightest amount of attention will know Albrecht’s not a good person but with like
More of a reason than say Ballas

fast dew
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Ballas was a absolute shit stain but he wasnt always like that

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He. Has his own issues

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I aint defending that shit, no way

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But to say that ballas. doesnt have mental issues would be ignorant

restive river
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Albrecht’s afraid, he literally was physically and mentally traumatized
Some of his actions make sense
He’s shown to be a much better person than most if not all other Orokin
But he’s still very much so not a good person
For the greater good means nothing if you burn the world to achieve that good

fast dew
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Agreed yeah

restive river
fast dew
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Folk complain about how. Unemotional he is, but don't seem to realise he needs to be

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Emotions, connections, anything like that can be leveraged against him

restive river
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Yeah he’s constantly dealing with the void????

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also yeah that lol

fast dew
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Yeah that too LMFAO

restive river
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If the whole thing about Wally changing based on perception then that explains a LOT about Albrecht

fast dew
restive river
fast dew
restive river
ashen pulsar
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all of the protos are masculine?

fast dew
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You'll find that both Arthur and Roathe get the special meow meow treatment

restive river
ashen pulsar
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that whole form is a joke

restive river
restive river
fast dew
ashen pulsar
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mocking science using the vitruvian man
hes saying "you cant explain me"

fast dew
restive river
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Iirc Roathe’s theory, which is a theory lol
Is that our perception of him is what changes him, view him as a god and now you have to deal with that
Heck there’s a mysterious boolean about exactly that, how we perceive him

gleaming ore
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in what order?

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also any side quests?

restive river
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Jade Shadows doesn’t have relevance to the current arc, all of those are in an arc together

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Oh wait do the Zariman after Duviri too lol

strange plinth
# gleaming ore in what order?

duviri > angels > whispers > lotus eaters > hex > old peace imo
throw jade shadows in wherever you feel like, its not super related, like ducky said

fast dew
midnight ice
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i keep rmemebering zariman as the gamemode tour and not as THE zariman lore dispenser

fast dew
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Cus it kinda is lmfao

restive river
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You have to choose between the Old Peace and The Hex
It’s a split path but you can go down both, just depends on which one you wanna do first
Operator or Drifter

gleaming ore
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they want to try expand the world

fast dew
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For fun basically

restive river
fast dew
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We do think it might be important later tho

restive river
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It will be

restive lantern
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It might be relevant in the future

strange plinth
gleaming ore
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i have to chosoe here too adijhasdgashjd

restive river
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Yup!

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I don’t think there’s a specific recommendation here though afaik

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Just be aware there’s specific content after both of those that is not a quest

gleaming ore
# restive river Yup!

actually i think they did it well here cuz i wanted to see what the drifter would play out in the new war but dont want to try the whole quest again so i just watched yt

ashen pulsar
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I would recommend the hex I think
more immediate significance

gleaming ore
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but to have standalone quest is smart

strange plinth
restive river
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If you want a personal recommendation, Hex first

restive lantern
restive river
ashen pulsar
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meh

restive river
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They both end with the same conclusion ||Tau||

gleaming ore
fast dew
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Its barely a choice

ashen pulsar
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I meant both lorewise and gameplay-wise

fast dew
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Just one quest has one character and the other doesn't

restive river
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Personally I like the hex quest better but I was deep into everything 1999 as it was coming out
Whispers and the Netracells
The Comic
The ARG

fast dew
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You don't miss out on anything

ashen pulsar
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its not like you're losing anything by choosing one first

fast dew
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Whispers in the walls time

restive lantern
fast dew
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Old man yaoi lfg BombaPoint BombaPoint BombaPoint BombaPoint

gleaming ore
restive river
ashen pulsar
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I just think that going in from whispers and lotus eaters, hex makes more sense to play

restive river
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Lotus Eaters is meant to be a choice

gleaming ore
restive river
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And it’s def done better as a choice than when Duviri was one of the starting paths
That was
Such a bad choice

restive river
gleaming ore
# fast dew The Hex

okay one more question sometime ago i wasnt a warframe player but when 1999 dropped i saw it everywhere esp that freaky lady is it really that good?

restive river
strange plinth
ashen pulsar
restive river
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It does something kinda backwards lol

fast dew
restive river
gleaming ore
restive river
fast dew
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Its a line the lotus says in the. First cutscene?

restive lantern
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Well they look older at least

fast dew
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"This is the only way to find al-" she gets cut off but its quite clear its Albrecht she was about to say

gleaming ore
restive river
gleaming ore
fast dew
restive river
fast dew
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Hes not a fan of the operator using the dark refractory as much as they do in general but the lotus suggesting it was the only way to find him was. Weird.

restive river
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I still don’t know how it helped us ngl

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Like yeah we know we need to go there

fast dew
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It felt lowkey manipulative

restive river
fast dew
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Especially considering that the operator already knew Albrecht was in 1999

fast dew
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It makes me. Worry.

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I already hold distrust towards the lotus

restive river
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Eh, I don’t think we have a reason to distrust her

fast dew
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Ehh, its not in any capacity towards wally or anything

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But more than i cannot tell if the others have other motives for tau. Natah specifically

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Like im getting the vibe she wants to fix Erra

strange plinth
restive river
fast dew
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Do you not need access to the POM-2 first?

restive river
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You would so

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Also The Hex exists to introduce the protos

strange plinth
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wiki only states old peace, iirc the patch notes didn't say anything special about requiring the hex

restive river
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Might have been overlooked

fast dew
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Loid's line when introducing the triad says that weve dealt with them before

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They've patched out bullying Loid when you first meet him, I think

restive river
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We don’t have many people choosing Old Peace first
Mostly since its so new

restive river
strange plinth
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yea, i've not seen any choosing old peace first to know for sure
-# and my alt is nowhere near where i can test that atm

restive river
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I could maybe convince some of my newer tenno friends but

fast dew
restive river
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Idk when I’d be able to

ashen pulsar
ashen pulsar
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or smth

fast dew
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I think i have a screenshot of when i could

restive river
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More Drifter being a stupid terrible jerk
Outs the people who like to do that

restive river
ashen pulsar
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what ce

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there's no void going into it

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the real question is
what are lotus' weird tentacles and what do they do

restive lantern
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Her plugs?

restive river
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Those have to exist cause of CE

ashen pulsar
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is that like... sentient tech?

warm quail
restive river
warm quail
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Yes

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I AM NEW WAR

restive river
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Oh
Sad

ashen pulsar
warm quail
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actually this is kind of a dumb question

ashen pulsar
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CE needs void power

fast dew
ashen pulsar
restive river
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Ngl Operator is better cause they aren’t awful for no reason

fast dew
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He shouldn't. Ever be there

restive river
fast dew
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Also I found the first stage of the Albrecht shrine. It was so small in the early days.

warm quail
fast dew
warm quail
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The indifference made it worse

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...maybe

fast dew
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I have more now

restive lantern
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The indifference can't explain that mess lol

fast dew
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Can you just stop

restive river
fast dew
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Noone asked pixel. Noone asked.

fast dew
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They being. Both Albrecht n Loid

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Package deal yk

restive lantern
fast dew
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Yeah, and noone wanted your dogshit opinion on my thing i made

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If you have nothing nice to say, dont say anything

restive river
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Can you two just stop and move on

fast dew
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Sure.

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Anyways, Albrecht shrine has been made larger

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Missed some stuff from dogdays

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But i got the necramech statue

restive lantern
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Lmfaooo

fast dew
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I also added Oraxia, and once i finish what I need to do today ima add qorvex too

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Just gotta buy a loadout slot for him

restive river
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You got Qorvex too?

fast dew
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Mhm

restive river
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Oh I read too fast mb LOL

fast dew
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Oh no I do

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The warframe articulas rely on loadout slots

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I also added some of the stardays frames to stuff

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Oh and theres a whole ass lounge now

restive river
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I think I missed one of those cause I stopped caring cause the Triad were involved

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Really disappointed in star days this year ngl

fast dew
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I got a screenie of my kalymos on them

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We got like. No new stuff outside the frames I think

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Literally the perfect time to add any form of alloid art but alas

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I could never be as lucky

restive river
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We got the frames and triad glyphs and I am not happy with the Triad

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Well I’m happy with Lyon, he did nothing wrong

fast dew
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Everything went to Roathe tbh

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Lyon is good, he's awesome

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But comparing him to the hex or Roathe it. It shows the writing difference

restive river
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Lyon deserves better than decoration vendor 😭

fast dew
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He is involved in the tauron strikes

restive river
fast dew
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Honestly if he wasn't locked behind a rank it wouldve been for him

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I get that feeling, at least

lean garden
restive river
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Yeah, but it woulda been neat if you had to unlock them by getting him to like you

restive river
ashen pulsar
restive river
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And I only missed out on the final alert cause the Triad just make me not care

fast dew
lean garden
restive river
fast dew
restive river
restive river
fast dew
fast dew
restive river
restive river
fast dew
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They have redeeming traits, sure but christ on a stick

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Folk just seem to forget that a woman stabbing her husband is still domestic abuse

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Literally father is the only normalish one

restive river
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Kalymos, Necraloid and Otak did nothing wrong

fast dew
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Kalymos might have chewed through vital equipment you don't know that/j

lean garden
restive river
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It’s the only reason I’m fine with it as a feature

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Not happy about it
Just
Fine with it lol

lean garden
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so thats why newbies were asking for older players to bring them to perita

restive river
fast dew
restive river
fast dew
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I do imagine she's bruised either man's internal organs if she jumped on them

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She would be a heavy cat

restive river
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Oh she 100% bruised both when she jumped into bed with em

fast dew
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Theres a joke i could make there

restive river
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They’re on their couch and she just
Hops up

restive river
fast dew
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They're cuddling and she just jumps on their faces

fast dew
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I apologise ducky

ashen pulsar
fast dew
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Im normal i swear

radiant pier
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HOW MANY TIMES MUST I FIGHT AGAINST NEF ANYO ON THE INDEX?!?

midnight ice
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a looot

fast dew
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An insane amount

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Theres a reason i haven't finished glast gambit

midnight ice
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why is it called glasts gambit when we're the ones paying out of our pocket smh!

fast dew
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Mm, i think I have like

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3 quests that are unfinished

radiant pier
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how many exactly

strange plinth
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i swear it was only like 3 or 4
i do not remember glast gambit being that bad

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yea only 3 actual times
1 regular, 1 modified, 1 rigged, and then 1 regular

radiant pier
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no way do you lose the money for having 5 more points

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no way I have to redo that

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I HATE THIS QUEST

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another 7 minutes

fast dew
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Are. Are we supposed to fail that

strange plinth
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yea
||nef starts cheating and electrocutes you whenever you put a point in||

midnight ice
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yes

strange plinth
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it'll let you bump your head into the wall and then 'fail' the mission

fast dew
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Are you shitting me

midnight ice
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and one spy mission

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glast did say that it is sabotage

fast dew
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... ill be back.

radiant pier
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do you lose money

strange plinth
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some, yea
it'll give you 200k back at the end

fast dew
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Im done with nef's tomfoolery

strange plinth
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actually wait no
misread

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the first two rounds are winnable, with profit
the third requires 180k that you're guaranteed to lose, then the fourth will give you 200k

radiant pier
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this is the most boring quest so far

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couldn't they have altered this slightly....

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just 2 more matches

fast dew
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... I think i skipped the rigged one

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I got 22 - 0 last run 😭

radiant pier
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YOU'RE TELLING ME THEY'RE MAKING ME GO THROUGH 6 MONTHS OF THIS RIGGED ONE?!?

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DON'T TELL ME I NEED TO DO THIS LOSS 2 MORE TIMES!;? NEF ANYO SHUT UP

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SHUT UP

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finally a normal mission

idle fog
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can a tenno telepathically communicate to another tenno by transference

radiant pier
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n

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next

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NEXT INDEX?!? I GOTTA DO THAT AGAIN?!?

strange plinth
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yea its just regular index like the first mission though
and it'll be the last one

strange plinth
radiant pier
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yk

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if this is the introduction to the index

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then I'm gonna be honest I don't think it makes it sound fun

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also I totally thought your pfp was a sheep fursona before I saw

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is it fursona when its sheep?

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or....woolsona

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yeah I thought it was a black and white woolsona

midnight ice
strange plinth
midnight ice
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thats why people say PT or techrot caches for credit farming

radiant pier
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when do I unlock those

fast dew
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Höllvania and r5 fortuna

strange plinth
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PT is solaris rank 5 iirc? and techrot cache is The Hex

midnight ice
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PT is r5 fortuna and techrot is after The Hex wuest

strange plinth
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3 hit combo

fast dew
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Wuest

fast dew
radiant pier
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what's Hollvania

fast dew
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Where the hex are

radiant pier
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I seeee

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....what's the hex

fast dew
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Most of my endo comes from grinding hex bounties tbh

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... the protoframes

radiant pier
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OHHH

strange plinth
radiant pier
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WHAT ARE PROTOFRAMES

strange plinth
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lmao don't worry about it for now then

radiant pier
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YKW

fast dew
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Remember the nun i was

radiant pier
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SCREW IT, I WILL FINISH THE 1999 STUFF NOW

fast dew
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That.

fast dew
radiant pier
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oh yeah I got another batch of plat I should be good for the rest of the year

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no more spending from me

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til I get a 75%

fast dew
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How much plat did you get god damn 😭

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Shout out to the time i got 200% bonus plat

radiant pier
fast dew
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-# for the unaware thats what ever pack you buy + 2 of the same amount

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2400?

radiant pier
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I spent the 800, valkyr heirloom pack, 100 on some miscellaneous stuff

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and another almost hundred on rhino prime parts for my buddy who got me into Warframe and has been carrying me every Sunday except yesterday

fast dew
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Woah aint it 400?

radiant pier
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nono it was 400, I meant 800 including the miscellaneous stuff and rhino prime

midnight ice
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not anymore

radiant pier
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and emotes

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valkyr heirloom pack, mods, an R5 arcane(molt augmented), I think I gave a new person like 20, rhino prime

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though I'll probably buy some Grendel Prime parts this month to prepare for the dine n dash duo deluxe bundle

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okay...one more index run

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the cure her and send her home option...what's the difference?

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weren't we gonna cure her and send her home

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or is that send home without the curing

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@midnight ice PING

midnight ice
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i'm at work whats up

midnight ice
strange plinth
radiant pier
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well that's terrible, let's cure her

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if tradition requires the young to suffer and die for any reason, then let's go burn that tradition into the ground

strange plinth
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could let her decide
its her culture, her cost, etc

radiant pier
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the Myconian's will be fineee, they'll adapt waves hand besides we're here

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children should not have to face the burdens of adults ON GOD FRFR

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call me Yuji Itadori the way I choose this option

strange plinth
radiant pier
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literally the whole JJK Modulo Yuji and Maru conversation is this rn

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cute kid! go have picnics, play, go to school, yk, stuff kids should be doing and NOT BEING SACRIFICED

radiant pier
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IS THAT KAHL

strange plinth
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inbox message after finishing the quest

radiant pier
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KAHL THE GOAT

fast dew
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I hate nef

radiant pier
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NEW QUEST LET'S GO NERDS

fast dew
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Bro makes my entire head hurt

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You know whats funny

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The lotus being upset over them doing the trinual or whatever

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As if she doesn't send children to their deaths on a daily basis

radiant pier
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her hyper murderous void god children in basically indestructible frames of war

fast dew
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Ehh

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Not indestructible

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We see stalker behead quite a few

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Including, and for some reason the only prime head there, equinox prime

radiant pier
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basically indestructible in the way that most things die first

fast dew
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OH WORD

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My kaya status is back to normal!

strange plinth
# strange plinth inbox message after finishing the quest

pasting this here
“Neewa Has Been Cured
-# Tenno,
-# You made the right choice. Neewa is recovering well with many opportunities in front of her. Rest well, knowing you helped her escape an early death in some darkened Infested freighter. The Myconians are safe too. A contingent of specters will now protect them from the Infested. They will adapt to this new reality, and no more children will have this affliction forced upon them.
-# As agreed, the Myconians have sent you their Old War relic.
-# I'll give the final word to Neewa.
-# —The Lotus”
“Neewa Is Home
-# <Player Name>
-# On behalf of the Perrin Sequence and the people of Mycona Colony, I offer you our sincere gratitude. Without you, Mycona would no longer exist. To celebrate your selfless deed, the Myconians have sent you their prized Old War relic. It is their sincere hope you use it to protect others as you have protected them.
-# I hope this message from Neewa communicates how truly grateful they all are.
-# Yours Truly,
-# Ergo Glast”
“Neewa Has Made Her Choice
-# <Player Name>
-# The choice you gave Neewa had a profound effect on her but I'll let her explain that in her own words.
-# On behalf of the Perrin Sequence and the people of Mycona Colony, I offer you our sincere gratitude. Without you, Mycona would no longer exist. To celebrate your selfless deed, the Myconians have sent you their prized Old War relic. It is their sincere hope you use it to protect others as you have protected them.
-# I hope this message from Neewa communicates how truly grateful they all are.
-# Yours Truly,
-# Ergo Glast”
and, yk, you get different drawings based on what you chose

strange plinth
fast dew
#

Oh now is a good time to go get a new screenie of the Albrecht-slowly-turning-into-the-entrati-family-as-a-whole shrine

radiant pier
#

WAS THAT

#

ERRA

strange plinth
#

what's left, yea

radiant pier
#

kaelli

#

is Khaelli a ship

#

true

fast dew
radiant pier
#

y-yeah-?

fast dew
#

Thats daughter. Kaeli is daughter.

radiant pier
#

I know

#

I meant, are they a ship

fast dew
#

WAIT

#

Dawg you need to clarify what kind of ship 😭 that looked like you just mucked up spelling her name

radiant pier
#

A SHIP

#

DO PEOPLE SHIP THEM

fast dew
#

It needs a cuter name

radiant pier
#

obviously we can't call her daughter

#

kahlter is NOT good

fast dew
#

Mm. Perhaps a more advanced name is required

strange plinth
fast dew
#

Summoning ancient fandom magic of old

#

He uses a nickname for her, Blue girl, so I think we could use that

radiant pier
#

hmmm

#

archon hunt

fast dew
#

I was gonna go blue bones but thats kinda both on the entrati side

#

While im at it i should make a better name to refer to Albrecht/Loid content on my puter + archive

radiant pier
#

do you think the warframe universe has it's own fanfic writers

fast dew
#

Wally, true

glass sluice
#

@fast dew btw I finally rewatched #193, and remembered the bit where Follie did the airplane arms.
It was when Megan was demonstrating Follie killing her.

#

The announcer also is sounding more and more to me like she's some kind of therapist-adjacent.

fast dew
glass sluice
#

"are those tears happy?"

fast dew
#

Thats what I got too, yeah
-# after extensive experience with them

glass sluice
#

"we don't scream with our mouths, we scream with our paintings"

fast dew
#

Mm. Malicious therapist. Violent words for someone who seems to be childlike.

glass sluice
#

To me, that totally comes across the way an Orokin Child Therapist would be.

fast dew
#

I. Wouldn't say that I don't think. The orokin were mucked up but I don't think they even liked mental illness at all

glass sluice
#

the same kinda people who willingly sent a ship full of kids into the 40k Hell dimension (I only know 40k from vague experiences near it)

fast dew
#

Let alone have a therapist type

glass sluice
#

oh and Darktide.

fast dew
#

I think. At least. Been yoinks since I read any of the books

#

It generally seems based on how they treated mentally ill folk that they. really didn't understand it

#

We could use Rell as an example

glass sluice
#

From what I understand in 40k, how they treated the mentally ill was using them as the basis for food for the rest of the people.

fast dew
#

Mm. Yeah. Sounds like 40k

glass sluice
#

I'm like, 60% sure the kims bring up growing up on the Zariman a bunch of times.

#

I have a distinct memory of them mentioning a situation adjacent to Rell.

glass sluice
#

I would, but Harlan scares the shit out of me.

#

not even his books, just the dude himself.

fast dew
#

Yeah hes a scary man

#

He is dead though aint he?

glass sluice
#

I don't trust that man to stay dead.

midnight ice
lean garden
#

Rookie numbers

#

Mine cannot be described

#

The Machine will learn that theres a reason why humanity was born to inherit the stars

fast dew
lean garden
#

For we are the naturally stupid

fast dew
#

Shout out to these mildly concerning scribbles Albrecht did on the walls
-# are we sure of this man's cognitive ability

glass sluice
#

He's just trying to design a better sauce bottle.

fast dew
#

True

#

XataBombaPoint

midnight ice
#

the one on the right looks like an anatomizer

fast dew
#

Yuppers

midnight ice
fast dew
#

Theres multiple murmur enemies he has drawn

glass sluice
#

the bit at the bottom is where he spilled the last one, and he got so mad he travelled to xx99 to get away from the concept of sauce bottles.
new headcanon unlocked.

fast dew
#

One of them including the fragmented one, but i can't find a screenie of it

#

There's also orokin text thats translatable

strange plinth
humble sierra
fast dew
#

One being. "Forget"

#

So. We should all be concerned

humble sierra
#

Just "forget" on its own?

fast dew
#

Mhm

humble sierra
#

Is there illegible text near it?

#

Dang

fast dew
#

Nup. Just. Forget. Theres a weird spiral

humble sierra
#

Duviri?

fast dew
#

Its supposed to be near the anatomizer thing iirc

glass sluice
#

The art team that just threw a bunch of random junk on the wall reading this chat: "I'm mildly concerned".

fast dew
#

I was slowly spiralling about what it could mean

#

I was messed up. All of yesterday from it

glass sluice
#

It wouldn't be the first time a community has invented lore that the devs added in later on, based on wild speculation.

fast dew
#

Its not neat clean orokin text

#

Its hand drawn

#

YEAH I WAS TRYING TO AVOID USING THAT

glass sluice
#

It's handdrawn ingame, by the art team it was done on a computer.

midnight ice
#

is the archives server open? if theres any contribution i can do id love to pitch in

fast dew
#

Albrecht just pulls the ... modifier? Down lower

humble sierra
#

Yeah pretty sure it's open

midnight ice
#

since i always come in here going like [known tidbit] "has anyone xyz"

fast dew
#

The server is great

#

A haven from certain bullshit here

#

-# mainly the players who think wally is a god

midnight ice
#

i think he's god because when i went to the sanctum and stared up at the wally-head on the skybox for a bit we got all Wisp parts in exactly 4 runs

#

obviously some form of divine intervention

fast dew
#

DEADASS

#

That was some weird shit

humble sierra
fast dew
#

Like. Genuinely

fast dew
#

Kinda serving in the mesh shirt tho

#

I should draw Albrecht as that

glass sluice
#

We already have the yaoi accusations, him in a mesh shirt is not helping matters.

humble sierra
#

Accusations

fast dew
#

Accusations 😭

radiant pier
#

accusations?

humble sierra
#

That's almost offensive

radiant pier
#

have you seen that man?

fast dew
#

The autism accusations maybe

glass sluice
#

I always forget that some people use "gay" and "yaoi" as interchangeable.

fast dew
#

Tbf theyve been associated since time immemorial

humble sierra
#

Is it not simply the Japanese word for gay man?

fast dew
#

Mm, it means. A specific thing

humble sierra
#

Like I'm aware of the genre too

#

But I thought said genre was simply named after the word

fast dew
#

Im more of a fan of bara anwyays

radiant pier
#

I mean

#

doesn't it still fit in with the original meaning of yaoi?

fast dew
#

Ehhh

#

Yaoi now is typically BL written by women for women, not that its a bad thing

#

Bara is made by gay men for gay men yk
-# forgot to finish my sentence

floral charm
#

Just thought about it, somewhat confused about the lore. We are already aware of the orokin and their heinous crimes, but pushing forward we meet the entrants family, whom is also orokin to my knowledge, so with that being said, why do we work with/work for them instead of attacking them? Is it merely because they are the last of their kind or somewhat because they are insiders and actually don’t believe in the orokin stuff?

fast dew
#

We slaughtered the vast majority of them

midnight ice
#

had to work with them during heart of deimos because if the Heart closes then that's our connection to the void gone iirc?

fast dew
#

Mhm.

#
  • the entrati are just. Different
#

Not that different but different enough

strange plinth
floral charm
#

Ahhhhh ok ok, so then with albrecht entrati, he is technically apart of the family too?

fast dew
#

He is "grandfather", on Mother's side

#

No, grandmother isnt his wife

strange plinth
#

he's been busy,, elsewhere

midnight ice
#

gmama is paternal side

fast dew
#

Grandma is constantly disappointed by her boyfailure of a Son

floral charm
#

Oh ok cause I thought he was grandfather but ok I get it lol

fast dew
#

He is, just on the maternal side.

#

How far are you?

#

Ima guess post new war

#

Most folk aren't aware of Albrecht until then

floral charm
#

Honestly I stay up to date with missions so I’m just waiting on follie, but it’s been years since I last thought about the lore

fast dew
#

Sick.

floral charm
#

Like for example I don’t understand the harrow situation at all, I mean it’s cool and sounds amazing but I got confused after years of no research lol only info I was told was the man in the wall has a name and you can see him in countless areas, especially in duviri

fast dew
#

Okay so Albrecht is Euleria's [mother entrati] father, Euleria's mother [Gerivaine] died and it was an arranged marriage and Albrecht honestly is probably gay and is in love with his butler [Loid] who served as Euleria's second father of sorts

fast dew
radiant pier
#

"probably"

midnight ice
#

historians would say they were friends

fast dew
#

Eh. Some people get weird and insist that Albrecht must be bi because he had a daughter. Ignoring... countless times that has happened to gay men

midnight ice
#

camera cuts to a scene of them making out passionately in an unskippable cutscene

radiant pier
#

you do not CARESS somebody face and literally travel through time just so this person doesn't get hurt

#

one thing for certain, he absolutely loves loid

fast dew
#

Idk why but i always get weird internalised homophobia vibes from the folk who insist Albrecht's bi

radiant pier
#

could be pan

fast dew
#

Ehhh

#

Either relies on attraction towards anyone but a man and

#

He hasnt really shown that

#

Mf might genuinely be the most aro/ace but for Loid

floral charm
#

I might be daft, but I always assumed he just cared so much for him that he would do anything for him somewhat like a father for his son or brother for brother, etc. didn’t really pick up on potential love interest, though I don’t even look into that stuff fr I just play for fun lol

fast dew
#

Oh my god once again 😭

#

IM NOT DELUSIONAL GUYS PEOPLE HAVE THOUGHT THIS 💔

fast dew
#

Gay as hell. Might be the gayest shit inside warframe

fast dew
#

Shout out to the time the wiki folk had a full on war about if they were lovers or not
-# forgot which one

radiant pier
#

if you described them without their genders

#

no one would have a doubt they love each other

fast dew
#

"Person abandons everything to keep their lover safe"

#

Again, its usually just. Homophobia powering it

#

When they're denying it, yk

radiant pier
#

I'm a JJK fan that loves critical thinking

#

I most definitely do know how far the homophobes reach to make excuses

fast dew
#

Im a doom fan that loves critical thinking. We are a rare breed.

#

Had someone try to tell me there's no POC in doom and. That was. Dumb as shit.

#

This was before TDA released but we had Internguy, who's. asian.

#

Like unequivocally asian

#

Oh also

Woe the Albrecht shrine

#

Its massive now

restive lantern
#

I still have no clue who I want to romance from the hex and literally temporarily stopped replying to their KIM messages Lmfaooo

#

I actually really appreciate Elenor as a chronically ill person. I, too, am often laying down and feeling terrible lol

glass sluice
#

The great thing about the Hex, is that there's something to like about all of them, for me romantically, I only think of it that way for Lettie/Aoi/El', but I can admit that all 6 have their good points.

#

I've only hit the actual dating+moved in point with El+Lettie so far, but I can safely say that El gives more Lez vibes overall, and Lettie comes across as more pan. Aoi is definitely more interesting than she appears on the surface though, she's not what she seems on the surface.

midnight ice
restive lantern
#

That's the problem they are all so well written and likeble 😭 Arthur I was surprised I actually really liked his goofy ass once I got to know him. I love Quincy and Amir toooooo ahhhhh
But I love aoi Lettie and el so much too.
Being a hopeless romantic poly pansexual person is NOT working out in my favor 😭 I really don't want to reset them to date them, I want to pick one and be happy about it.
But God damn its a struggle

glass sluice
#

Clicking with one more than the others is why I was dating El' since I first could, up until recently when I wanted to see the rest of the romance options.
I resorted to resetting the entire Hex System rather than break-up, since it felt less mean.

#

(It has nothing to do with the fact that my GF pointed out that I was dating a digital version of her, nope nothing)

restive lantern
#

That's fair!
Ngl in my head lettie and el kinda have a toxic Yuri thing going on, I feel like I shouldn't interrupt 😭

glass sluice
#

I did kinda think that early on, but the convo's later when talking to one about the other genuinely kinda hurt a little to read, I lost a lot of respect for Lettie after some of those. Like, I get why she felt that way, but it took a while to get past it.

restive lantern
#

Oh I called her out and was like Lettie you're being a jerk and she was like damn... True +20 chemistry

glass sluice
#

totally unrelated: but I wish Lettle would use less Spanish. I can not understand a good chunk of her messages, even if I do get what a lot of the words mean by vibes/knowing some of them.

#

same with Marie and french.

fast dew
#

Though. I did hear from a french person when the old peace dropped that she types more like someone from our time, which is lowkey disappointing

glass sluice
#

That part I can not blame them for, otherwise Lyon+Marie's english would sound basically like gibberish

#

if you look up old-timey english it basically looks like l33t speak.

restive lantern
#

It feels like a little bit much honestly sometimes. Like bilingual people don't usually randomly use phrases in a different language that commonly when speaking to another English speaker who only knows English. But they REALLY need to you know. Like it can sometimes be a thing but it feels a bit random sometimes and shoehorned in.

glass sluice
#

There's a fun video I once saw, I'm sure it's still on YT. Of someone reading Shakespeare in english of his time, rather than modern terms.

fast dew
#

Its not even a normal often used term either iirc

glass sluice
#

Nah if you're going for one being accurate, you have to go for both.

fast dew
#

It was shorthand of a certain word

glass sluice
#

I just assume it's fantasy old-timey english-france

#

where everyone speaks english in a french accent

#

like that bit from History of the World Part 1.

#

"we are so poor; we do not even have a language, just this silly accent"

restive lantern
#

It would make no sense to not write it in a somewhat modern language, especially on top of using different language. It would just make it confusing and inaccessible for people. I mean they learned how to use a computer in record time lmfao

#

Marie had so much potential as a character ngl 😭 they fumbled her fr

glass sluice
#

I like to imagine that the first time they saw the KIM, Marie+Lyon just started screaming.

#

Roathe holding a zipper up to them and going "boooo, scary!"

restive lantern
#

I love Lyon is just like I'm not dealing with that shit for a while lol

#

Ngl Marie being in Alberts cult made me v sad and not really want to date her. It's like I wouldn't date Roathe but I can see why someone would after talking to all 3 of them, he's just more interesting as a character.

glass sluice
#

I love that in the lore, he's the first proto-frame to realise that clothes get turned with you, so he stripped down first.

restive lantern
#

Bro the fact that close get turned with you is so messed up 😭

glass sluice
#

It does explain the Hex's armour.

restive lantern
#

I will say ... amirs... Neck? Thickness? Is unsettling

#

It's like he has a scarf stuffed under his bodysuit/armor 😭

dark compass
#

Melted into the body armor

fast dew
#

... cult. Albrecht had a cult?

#

A cult following

#

But i don't remember any cult

ocean geyser
restive lantern
fast dew
#

Do you

restive lantern
fast dew
#

Do you mean the. The religion Albrecht joined

#

Do you mean dualism

#

Oh my God

restive lantern
pale cedar
strange plinth
fast dew
#

You know what.

restive lantern
fast dew
#

Im not even gonna try and explain that Albrecht joined Marie's religion

restive lantern
#

Thanks for that

fast dew
#

People will just refuse to listen

strange plinth
fast dew
#

Because Albrecht can never just be genuinely nice and not an ableistic prick to some people

pale cedar
#

That was certainly the calmest argument of all time

restive lantern
fast dew
#

... you are just ignorant and refuse to acknowledge that Albrecht never was in or made a cult

restive lantern
#

Okay, sure

strange plinth
opaque zenith
#

How do you translate orokin again?

fast dew
#

Mm, there is a website, but iirc its not the best

#

Each letter represents a phonetic iirc

#

The little squiggles up above changes it too

strange plinth
#

the top bits are vowel sounds, yea

restive lantern
# opaque zenith How do you translate orokin again?

There is a cipher on the wiki; https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Orokin_Language

WARFRAME Wiki

The Orokin Script, or Tennobet, is largely based upon English but apparently also contains extra characters for certain phonemes including diphthongs ("io") and digraphs ("th" and "sh"). Consonants are diagonally slanted and are written left to right, while vowels and accents are written above. Some vowels and numbers resemble polarity symbols. ...

opaque zenith
strange plinth
opaque zenith
#

YEAH Gottem!
-# I was about to hide in shame for everyone aswering in good kind

strange plinth
#

curiosity got the better of me

radiant pier
#

to the Zariman quest!

#

@fast dew I THOUGHT YOU WAS SLEEPY

fast dew
radiant pier
#

OH

#

I'M STARTING THE ZARIMAN THING

#

DID THE SHIP REAPPEAR WOAH THIS IS SICK

restive lantern
#

Me when zariman lol

radiant pier
#

ponk lotus

restive lantern
#

I wish we could have a base there tbh it's actually kinda sick af

#

Which is weird bc there's apparently an apartment you can decorate

strange plinth
#

dormizone was brought up a bunch as a potential base of operations when the backroom was added, yeah
iirc DE said 'no current plans, but maybe'
or something to that effect, at least

opaque zenith
radiant pier
#

holy shit WHAT IS THIS THING

#

OH GOD IS THIS A NONSTOP QUEST

#

oh it was just a loading screen

#

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THEIR ALIEN DESIGNS

restive lantern
#

The void angels ?

opaque zenith
radiant pier
#

@fast dew what's a void cascade

fast dew
#

:)

radiant pier
#

what the HELL was that sound

restive lantern
#

Oop... Well have fun, kiddo!

radiant pier
#

that was cool

#

yk I actually used to be on the fence about my operator sounding so young

#

but they've grown on me

#

could the song they're hearing resemble a vocaloid

opaque zenith
#

That was fast, did you inta get the new modes? The average quest time is 30 min

radiant pier
#

wdym

#

DID THEY DEADASS MAKE ANOTHER GAME AGAIN

#

I'M PLAYING PVZ

#

what's the best turret

ashen pulsar
radiant pier
#

hi

ashen pulsar
#

hi

radiant pier
#

do you know what the best turret is?

fast dew
#

hi

radiant pier
#

my plan today was to finish a lot of nodes

fast dew
#

Oh. Turret doesn't... really matter iirc

radiant pier
#

....I've done 2 nodes, and like 4 quests

fast dew
#

OH CAN YOU SEE THE FINGER

opaque zenith
fast dew
#

HE.

opaque zenith
radiant pier
#

WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT

strange plinth
#

with absolutely no knowledge of where you are in the quest, prolly kira

radiant pier
#

no that was earlier

#

"how brightly you shine"

#

trust me, I'm not that bright, one time I was blinded on a relay

#

what even causes that??

strange plinth
radiant pier
#

done!

#

that was coolll

#

uh how hard would it be to max out melee exposure and arcane battery

#

how to get voidplume down

#

ah

#

what's the Laetum

#

MY WINGS ARE COVERING THE WHOLE SCREEN

#

OKAY THAT'S A JUMP IN DIFFICULTY

#

THAT IS DEFINITELY A JUMP

#

RIGHTEO

#

tasks for the week, finish star chart, do deimos stuff

opaque zenith
radiant pier
#

WHAT FOES THIS BALL DO

rose estuary
#

What ball?

fast dew
#

Da ball

radiant pier
#

the thing you pick up

#

it's like a white ball

woven coyote
radiant pier
#

how hard are archon hunt spy missions

opaque zenith
radiant pier
#

why hard on pub?

#

I'm gonna die

#

AHAHAHAHA I'M SO GONNA DIE

woven coyote
radiant pier
#

yeah this squad failed like....4 times in a row

normal mountain
#

Depends on the squad
Usually, I get a functional squad in Archon Spy

#

Regular Spy on public?
Yeah, forget it
They'll crack the one vault and intentionally fail the other 2 for a quick extraction

glass sluice
#

Honestly, have not come across that in all my playtime.

#

then again, I usually go solo for Spy because most people are just not good at them.

loud oriole
#

ive had good luck with most of my pub spy runs, but in occasion i do get the few who struggle

normal mountain
#

I also usually run the Security Override air support in case someone makes a silly mistake, so the whole mission doesn't go up in flames

candid lagoon
#

am i misunderstand drifter lore or somethign or misunderstand this statement

restive river
#

If you have questions feel free to ask

fast dew
#

Some stuff is confusing

jaunty oasis
#

what's weird is how Ballas knew throwing a tenno into the void traps them in a inescapable loop.

How could you even find out? Sending drones? How many tenno did it take to find this out? It's a bit scary.

drowsy saddle
woven coyote
#

Or maybe it just went as far as his line went and the pc is giving tamtrum thrower 9000 too much credit

marble timber
#

So when do we even learn the Tenno are immortal, and how does their immortality even work? I know it’s Eternalism stuff but it be weird to understand

strange turtle
#

It’s not

#

Eternalism I mean

#

Eternalism is just the whole Operator/Drifter thing

marble timber
#

Yeah, I understand Eternalism

#

I just don’t know how the immortality functions

#

I missed it whenever it was mentioned likely

#

Only know ballas’ quote

ocean geyser
#

Was boutta bring up the old peace but idk if that’s spoilers for you

fast dew
fast dew
#

-# you have met the other big fan of Doom, be warned

ocean geyser
#

Lmao?

fast dew
#

You'll be surprised how many parallels doom has with warframe.

ocean geyser
#

Nah i think this was brought up befotr

fast dew
#

Again, shout out to deimos getting yoinked into a place between worlds because of rich people

#

Another thing is the perception of godhood in both warframe and doom

#

Both has characters perceived as gods that. Is completely wrong

marble timber
fast dew
#

I like it. I respect it

#

Now.

#

Is wally a god?

marble timber
#

Eh, I more think of him as a entity

fast dew
#

YES

marble timber
#

More eldritch

fast dew
#

YES. YES OH MY GOD

marble timber
#

I hit the bullseye?

fast dew
#

Yes. You have no idea how bad it gets.

#

Actually. If you don't think doomguy as a god, you would

#

Because its pretty bad there too 😭

marble timber
#

I think of Doom Guy as a Primeval

fast dew
#

YEHAGAGUEHE

marble timber
#

Because that’s what he is referred to

fast dew
#

Sorry.

#

You have no idea how starved i have been.

#

God someone with a realistic view on what he is

vast willow
#

That is the question.

fast dew
vast willow
#

Yeah, but Doomguy is the hobo with the shotgun and Doom Slayer is the guy who killed Satan

fast dew
#

Doomguy is informal, and hes referred to as such in the modern games

#

By everyone's favourite twink, Intern

vast willow
#

I refer to Doomguy as the original marine and Doom Slayer as the marine after Doom 64.

marble timber
#

They are the same person though

fast dew
#

They're the same perspn

marble timber
#

Except for Doom 3

#

It’s one guy

fast dew
#

YEAH AND THATS STILL CANON

marble timber
#

Timeline shenanigans

fast dew
#

Sorry big doom 3 fan here

#

Tldr very similar to eternalism

vast willow
#

Anyway I thought this was a Warframe server

fast dew
#

Sorry. Gotta do the

vast willow
#

Oh well Doom is kewl

#

I don't blame you

fast dew
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Doom fan thats actually capable of reading comprehension

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Its a very rare event

marble timber
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Lmao

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Thanks

vast willow
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Rip and Tear

fast dew
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Warframe fans can be pretty dense but. Doom fans are a whole other level sometimes

vast willow
fast dew
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I know ball

vast willow
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Doomguy to the Cyberdemon right?

fast dew
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Oh. I do wonder what a berserk pack would feel like

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Mm, lesser demon iirc

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Cyberdemon got ganked by the BFG

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Oh i love how mentally ill he is

vast willow
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This is like the only good way to make a war machine have emotions.

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The Halo TV show should learn from that.

fast dew
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The comic may be uncanon, but im not pressed about it

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The books are too, both the ones for 3 and the classics

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Even though it had the peak storyline of giving doomguy daddy issues

vast willow
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Hey imagine if Doomguy fell in love with a demon and took off his helmet 90% of the time

fast dew
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He.

vast willow
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That's what they did with Master Chief in the Paramount show

fast dew
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Mightve felt some form of. Friendship? Closeness? To Samur. Who isnt exactly a demon but

restive lantern
vast willow
fast dew
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Its one of the 2 things he hasnt killed

restive lantern
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Master Chiefs helmet is like THE THING

fast dew
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Doomguy's helmet wasnt really that big of a deal for him

vast willow
fast dew
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We've known his face since the first game

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Shit has just changed that many times

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His eye colour, mainly

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Blue, to brown to green???

vast willow
fast dew
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Then to darker browns

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We suspect it has something to do with the seraphim's blessing

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Smthn about him appearing to shift into something closer to Davoth post blessing

vast willow
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Hmm.

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I wish I could run TDA, stupid icky RTX.

fast dew
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Cus davoth has always looked like that, doomguy hasn't

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Its used in a good way I promise!

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Its used to scale damage :3

vast willow
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Wait, what?

fast dew
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Yuppers

vast willow
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What, do the demons decay in sunlight or...

fast dew
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Nah its

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Hold on i explained it before

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Ah cant find it, ill just type it out again

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So raytracing works by throwing a bunch of particles in real time at an object, which reflects a certain amount based on a value iirc

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Imagine that, but bullets

vast willow
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It is something with pixel-pefect hitboxes?

fast dew
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Mhm.

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No more jank hitboxes