lore-discussion

[ashen pulsar]

suda doesnt remember yonta either huh

DOOMED YURI

[sharp breach]

Was the Yuri even possible if she chose to yeet her memories

[fast dew]

[restive river]

Probably not

[restive river]

It could be!

[fast dew]

Kiss the glass cube, don't be scared

Smh

[restive river]

Just cause Suda may not remember does not mean that love cannot bloom

[fast dew]

Warframe fans lack creativity/j

Yeah imagine its like. Her slowly remembering her

[ashen pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-warframe-bnp-suda-cephalon-suda-music-gif-17516580

[restive river]

Also if they get together then Simaris is divorced

[fast dew]

Divorced simaris is real

Look at him

That mf is divorced as shit

[ashen pulsar]

only gif of suda there is
but hell yeah

[restive river]

This is just Titania and Oraxia again with Oberon in the corner LOL

[dark compass]

Can a ghost possess a glass box

[restive river]

No but she can try to kiss her

[restive lantern]

Yeah I am seeing it more of destroying what they deem corrupt. Corpus isn't a race? It's a corporate entity.
Idk while I don't agree with red veils use of violence and cruelty I'm not seeing them doing much different than the tenno. Just like if the tenno were more fantical and violent in their mission.

[restive river]

Yonta’s also not like
A ghost ghost, it’s just that calling her a ghost is the closest explanation

[restive lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/haunted-mansion-hatbox-ghost-gif-5114868178965746597

[dark compass]

"What if we kissed in the Cephalon weave"

[ashen pulsar]

simaris needs no joy
deserves no joy
"waaaa waaaa hunter your abilities are messing with my data-"
IM GOING TO MACH RUSH YOU

[dark compass]

That's why Lavos is the best

His cooldown reduction can affect forced Simaris cooldowns

[sharp breach]

So suda wants all data and simaris hyper focused on scans of creatures huh weird

[ashen pulsar]

I still dont understand lavos gameplay tbh

[restive river]

If he blocks my abilities one more time I’m making SURE that his ex wife is kissing that cute ghost on the trauma boat

[dark compass]

Almost nobody does

And it's easy to ignore 90% of his kit due to how strong his passive effects are

[fast dew]

And this is why I just randomly spam abilities in ESO

[restive river]

Suda’s a bit more about art but yeah basically lol

[sharp breach]

Ive only ever played them in the circcut they too expensive with rare ores idk if I'll ever get the urge to grind the ores needed

[fast dew]

Suda is about media preservation

[ashen pulsar]

I dont even know how to not die as him

I just like valence thingy

the augment

valence formation I think

[dark compass]

Third highest armor in the game. His 1 is a percentage based heal. His passive is status immunity. He can't shield gate since no energy

He's a health tank

Also literally every single ability in his kit is applying some form of crowd control

[sharp breach]

Quincy should comment on if you are lavos tbh cuz lavos is what inspired Cyte-09

[dark compass]

Wouldn't call it inspired

They just reused an old Lavos design for him

[fast dew]

It was a design originally

[dark compass]

The only thing Cyte has from Lavos is Valence Formation sidegrade as an evil ass ability called Resupply

And valence formation isn't even core in Lavos kit, it's an augment

[fast dew]

Had someone try to say cyte is a ninja, actually. The.... sniper with a beret as an alt helm. A ninja.

I fear we might have players who cannot read

[lean garden]

• bring a primer
• press 4
• press 1 on 4 enemies
• press 3
• press 1 again because 3 will reset cooldown
• press 4
• repeat
• press 2 where necessary for mobility/spreading status

[dark compass]

Fork found in kitchen

[sharp breach]

Yeah but with how de treats augments they by technicality they are apart of the kit

[dark compass]

Well he is a fully capable caster

He doesn't need anything of that sort

[sharp breach]

Unless we get a augment added to a frames main kit things won't change

[dark compass]

You straight up won't have time to use weapons if you go full caster on him and it works perfectly

[fast dew]

Ik how shocking

[sharp breach]

Only thing i plan for lavos when I get him is to subsume golden instinct

[fast dew]

Once again, I get reminded about how dense several of the fandoms I engage in are

[ashen pulsar]

got it
what mods should I have for health tanking then

[dark compass]

You don't need primers on him, he is a primer

They help a bit though

[lean garden]

for lavos? arcane persistance lol

[ashen pulsar]

obviously

[dark compass]

Arcane Persistence. Triumbral or Vitality with literally any armor source

[lean garden]

you ideally want to bring a primer companion as well, just so the priming becomes a passive effort, plus you cover more elements that way

[dark compass]

He is basically the best persistence user

Not that he becomes op with it, but it works the best with him

Covers his main weakness essentially

[sharp breach]

I literally dont know any frame lore other than maybe harrow and some inaros cuz those are sorta hard to forget

[dark compass]

He is status immune 99% of the time so the nerf literally doesn't matter to him

[lean garden]

I'd argue its inaros, but thats because kpm on inaros is so much lower LOL

[fast dew]

Mm, lavos is one of those lore bits people like to. Froth over?

[lean garden]

inaros is one of the few frames that is able to easily use grace to outheal the damage you let in with persistence

[dark compass]

Inaros was already good at survivability

Lavos had a really obvious and a really shit gap because he is a health tank with no proactive survivability scaling of any sort

[lean garden]

like prior to the persistence nerf, inaros would genuinely survive anything that did not have a one-shot coded into it

[dark compass]

Persistence fixes that

[fast dew]

Tldr lavos primed himself, and for some reason power scalers latch onto it like leeches

[dark compass]

My point is that Inaros already has fully functional survivability

[sharp breach]

Its always neat when lore becomes builds or just general chats lol

[dark compass]

And he is a properly designed health tank

[fast dew]

This is kinda lore related i think

[dark compass]

Lavos was not, he was a glass cannon cc frame and a health tank at the same time. It was ass

Persistence fixes the largest gap his kit had

[lean garden]

I mean, I dont disagree that persistence is the perfect arcane for lavos, but I thought we're looking at "best persistence user" and not "best to have persistence on"

[dark compass]

A really low expiration date

[sharp breach]

I remember thinking it was lore that loki could spam 4th in eso but I was actually doing so lol

[fast dew]

Loki moment

[dark compass]

Ehhh, phrasing

[fast dew]

Ive. Never seen a person play loki

[dark compass]

Let's change it to "helped the most by persistence"

[lean garden]

eh whatever, we are in agreement

[sharp breach]

Not even cuz he was op but the opposite i thought lol

[fast dew]

Ive only seen folk play Rhino right after his heirloom release

[dark compass]

Invisibility, duh

[lean garden]

me, I sometimes do it

which is why I found out for some reason arcane concentration's duration buff doesnt work on invis

[dark compass]

I love how Loki looks but also I dislike weapon platforming and he's not a caster

[sharp breach]

I shuffle between loki ash and chroma and titania

[dark compass]

Anyways lore

[lean garden]

lol, I get you, except Im a sucker for weapon platforms

[sharp breach]

I get titania and trinity confused too much

Trinity seems like the name of a fairy imo

[dark compass]

I only froth over

Much like the snake, Lavos is easy to misjudge. The serpents that poison can also cure. He may have been a monster in his previous life, but he was able to achieve something that eluded the most powerful of the Orokin. He changed.

[restive lantern]

I just got titana she's so fun

I love being tiny and evil

[sharp breach]

Titania grind was long 😭

[dark compass]

Evil fairy of murder and bloodshed

None of that "may I have your name"

"may I have your spine" instead

[sharp breach]

I feel like she is underrated for profit taker

[restive lantern]

I had most of the herbs and flowers bc I impulsively picked them for a while

[restive river]

Oberon’s asks for your name
Titania asks for your kidneys

[dark compass]

Exactly

Razorwings are collecting tribute. The tribute is your kidneys

[fast dew]

Delightful

[sharp breach]

Ya know a lot of frames could easily cosplay marvel characters Oberon could be groot or somthing and titania could be ant man or the wasp

[fast dew]

Titania was. Honestly kinda easy to get

[dark compass]

I wonder who Loki could cosplay...

[fast dew]

I got screwed after the plant collection change but

[sharp breach]

Thor

[fast dew]

It didnt help that I just passively collect plants

[glass sluice]

Thor.

[dark compass]

You hated Titania farm because it was long and tedious, I hated Titania farm because I had to work with New Loka for it

We are not the same

[fast dew]

I. Didnt hate it cus I got a resource booster

[sharp breach]

It was harder for me cuz it was prior to being able to collect by holding down button all you had was using scanners

Line of sight for the plants is annoying

[glass sluice]

Every time I hear about someone's worst frame farming experience, it's always totally different, and always "the worst".
I'm starting to think that I just have a higher tolerance for it.

[fast dew]

Because i did that quest around the time I bought Yareli prime's accessory pack

[dark compass]

Even Ordis during the quest goes "they're insane fanatics operator please reconsider I beg you"

And when you do it they just go "you're one of the good ones"

[fast dew]

Eugh.

[dark compass]

[fast dew]

[sharp breach]

I didnt mind the equinox grind probs cuz I found tyl regor funny

"IM VERY EXCITED"

[fast dew]

I cannot wait to punch him once I get home.

[dark compass]

Manic Bombard scans are also important

For build testing purposes

[glass sluice]

It took me over 50 runs to get that last part of hers.

[fast dew]

I need to get Helios tbh

[glass sluice]

how do you not have Helios?

base or prime.

[dark compass]

Manic Bombards at lvl135(?) Have the same effective hp as a generic Grineer grunt at level cap

Very good to test stuff

[glass sluice]

Every time you enter a new zone for the first time, Helios is like a tourist. Just constantly taking photos.
You basically need to turn off the sound to handle it

[fast dew]

I generally don't interact with the game outside specific situations

[glass sluice]

Helios is within the game, I hate to tell you.

[fast dew]

Mainly helping my baby tenno through things

[restive river]

Always bring helios to a new update

[fast dew]

... specific situations.

[dark compass]

I hate helios

I hate sentinels

[glass sluice]

I thought he was going to explode when I brought him to the Undermind.

[fast dew]

Im not a completionist, shockingly

[dark compass]

Let me rename them DE, and my life is yours

[fast dew]

Most of the stuff I do is to just get my mate through it

[sharp breach]

Anyone find it weird there's the node called titania isn't where we get the frame titania from?

[fast dew]

Or gambling with Baro n Loid

[glass sluice]

The best thing about Helios, is that he's a passive gatherer.

[dark compass]

Caliban also has a node

[restive river]

Mean ):

They’re just lil sentient puppies ):

[sharp breach]

I gotta get a moa someday to improve spy vault efficiency

[dark compass]

I can't name them

[glass sluice]

It's a little tough to have a forest on Uranus

no pun intended.

[restive river]

That’s a moon so

Same with Caliban
Also a moon

[dark compass]

"no pun intended" made this 100 times worse

[glass sluice]

the follow up on "that's a moon" was just

[restive river]

There’s a node called Russalka which is weirder lol

[dark compass]

Rusalka is just a name for a water spirit in slavic folklore

Same with Vodyanoy

[glass sluice]

I hate to tell you this, but DE take most of their names from real things, and then either slightly twist them, or outright copy and make the lore sound really weird to the casual observer.

[restive river]

Yeah but it’s not a location in our solar system lol

Not that I’m aware or anyway

[dark compass]

Not yet

[restive river]

I think we named most things in our system
But also
There is a lot out there still

[glass sluice]

HAH

[restive river]

We need better names than letter followed by several numbers

[glass sluice]

oh DE, i saw what you did there.

[restive river]

Me when I get hollowed out and possessed by a ??? and am now malicious towards mankind

[dark compass]

There are lots of them, the numbered ones are just named in batches

[restive river]

We have some that are bigger than pluto
Not sure how many of those got special names

[sharp breach]

They probs used lots of brainpower to get a alphabet of names for frames probably i know i couldn't come up with 26 names Alphabetically for frames

[restive river]

We could also name like
A mountain after russalka lol

[glass sluice]

i never thought I'd say this, but I think DE copied the basic hairstyle from an opera for Rusalka

[dark compass]

Climbing the famous mountain that many perished trying to get to the top of. The legendary "citrine grind"

[restive river]

Some of them were NOT hard
Ember
Volt
Frost
Excalibur
Mag

At least Saryn is a tad more obscure lol

[glass sluice]

Excal originally dropped on Pluto if you didn't pick him as a starter.
that s**t wasnt easy to reach before, let me tell you.

[restive river]

Yeah this is my new Warframe “dagger”
Guess what they do

[sharp breach]

No like coming up wirh names not collecting the actual frames

[restive river]

I mean in terms of naming conventions lol

Excalibur is not the most creative name
But it works!

[glass sluice]

oh in that case, I dont think you need to call out any specific ones for that, 90% of all frames are basically just very obvious choices

atlas is strong
uriel is named after an angel, who IIRC fell in at least some versions of the story

[fast dew]

They're both water spirits waoe....

[dark compass]

They should've called Revenant by his working name. Vlad

[restive river]

Idk bout that but what Uriel means def applies to our demon boi

[sharp breach]

Are we gonna get all numbered frames at one point for names ya think lol

[dark compass]

This is Vlad Prime

Fatherless abomination

[restive river]

YEAH
AND MADE HIM MORE VAMPIRIC TOO

[fast dew]

V... salad....

Salad v....

[restive river]

we need a proper vampire frame, Revenant ain’t it I’m sorry Rebb
They held you back too much

[dark compass]

Cyte-09 is already here

[glass sluice]

Atlas in greek mythology held up the sky, or the earth depending on your variation

[restive river]

Yup!
A lot of the names are very literal

[glass sluice]

if they dont sparkle, I will be very unhappy

[sharp breach]

That's what I was referencing

[restive river]

And then ya got Xaku who’s name is maybe an amalgamation of some voidtongue lol

[fast dew]

Also, on Viktor, he. He has lip piercings. I believe the term are snakebites. Like. Idk he kinda reminds me of a snake. But also as a vampire yk but that could be cus of Viktor's va

[glass sluice]

oh son of a
i really hope im wrong about this

[dark compass]

Revenant is a proper vampire frame. They just "censored" themes blood and undead with eidolon stuff. Imo it makes Revenant much more original, but I get your frustrations

[restive lantern]

Lmfaook

[restive river]

I believe it was
Xata Khra and Jahu
Xa(ta)K(hra)(jah)u

[glass sluice]

Reb!

[fast dew]

Truth, time and form

[glass sluice]

gundams.

[fast dew]

I can see them being related tbh

[sharp breach]

Xaku is the closest we are getting to a warframe nechramech then cuz hes a bone piloting a skin mech

[fast dew]

Especially the Jahu part

[restive river]

Lol that is not the name inspiration at all
Literally no connection to what Xaku is

[restive river]

I might be wrong cause I’m tired but I wanna say these were present in the 1999 ARG!

[dark compass]

Truth(Xata's whisper), time(entire kit revolving around cooldowns), form(amalgamation)

[fast dew]

Form. Hm. Was it ever explained how the Jahu Gargoyle actually. Works?

[dark compass]

Truly, a creature of the void

[sharp breach]

Xaku protoframe would be horrifying wouldn't he

[restive river]

CE goes brrrr

[glass sluice]

DE are hugs weebs, i would not put it past them to take the name and make it fit something ingame vaguely

[fast dew]

They, and yeah

[dark compass]

No please no protoframes I beg you I'm going to cry

[fast dew]

But i don't think DE will make more

[dark compass]

Nitoh-

[fast dew]

If not one more for like. Loid proto

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-loser-tiny-kitten-explode-gif-15623895175038521381

[glass sluice]

just an FYI, xaku is canonically non-binary, at least in their current form

[sharp breach]

Is the bones a different gender than skin or is it cuz its 2 in one? They as in group or they as in boy and girl?

[fast dew]

Because once again, look at how similar him and limbo prime is these are base limbo prime colours too

[restive lantern]

I agree very much they would think of it like a pun/reference

[fast dew]

Group they

[dark compass]

Is your skeleton a different gender from your skin

[fast dew]

Woe

[dark compass]

Let's take it out and ask it

[restive lantern]

Deadass what does that mean

[restive river]

I mean yeah but I don’t think Zaku has any tie beyond the name is similar lol

[fast dew]

Are your bones alive and sentient enough to determine their own gender.

[restive river]

https://tenor.com/view/xaku-warframe-nonbinary-non-binary-picmix-gif-13546531829644806588

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-xaku-prime-pendulum-dance-gauss-prime-gif-12039137251612472912

[glass sluice]

@restive river If you want to go deeper, "zako" means "inferior fish meat".
im all for it.

[restive lantern]

Me when I have gendered bones and skin

[ashen pulsar]

not nonbinary
plural
literally three frames

[dark compass]

If your language is gendered, maybe

[fast dew]

Oh my god my mate made a loid version somewhere hold on

[dark compass]

Skeleton could be masculine, skin could be feminine

[glass sluice]

yes non binary, they're one frame.

[restive lantern]

They are listed as nonbinary on the official wiki

[fast dew]

Like the French and their gendered language. Including water!

[restive river]

Xaku’s nonbinary cause they’re literally 3 people stitched together but even as an identity they don’t fit the binary

[glass sluice]

space mom says its canon, its canon.
I dont always agree, but we dont get to pick and choose what she decides

[fast dew]

Foods are generally said with feminine spellings

[dark compass]

Xaku is non-binary. Even though it's 3 dead people in one, it's still one being by the end of it

[fast dew]

I cannot find it but I did find their coquette loid

[dark compass]

Can we respect my gender identity and not the one of my left arm please

[fast dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447039990847504535/1468013481985966162/loid_coquette.gif

[restive river]

They’re a composite, a family, a multitude
They are three as one
Neither he nor she but a secret third thing
They

[fast dew]

Look at him :)

[restive lantern]

They are nonbinary even if they were multiple frames at one time. They are one frame now.

[glass sluice]

they know not what they

[fast dew]

Not what they what-

[restive river]

Well they’re not a singular entity entirely, that’s the whole point lol

[dark compass]

(— Frankenstein's monster probably)

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-withrock-gif-27341353

[sharp breach]

I keep seeing hd versions of loid idk why in cutscenes he looks like he has low rendered black patchy beard i might have low rendered stuff or somthing

[fast dew]

He does. He has black/grey on the sides of his beard and his sideburns

[glass sluice]

dont bring it up, he's self concious about it

[fast dew]

The game just renders shit weird when in public spaces

He also has a disappearing septum piercing

[restive river]

Xaku is literally meant to be a multitude, they’re not nonbinary in the same way Temple is but that descriptor still applies
Tbh
Xaku could even be seen as genderfluid if we really dove into who they are

[restive lantern]

I said one frame. They are one frame.

[dark compass]

I would trust Ducky on it

[restive river]

They’re 3 frames as 1 frame lol

[dark compass]

She is a Xaku professional

[fast dew]

Except theyre not one frame and they're being held together by like. Void strings

[quick agate]

Okay hear me out, but is anyone else kinda interested in the whole deeper backstory to the operator/drifter? Like at least some time before the deal or the Zariman incident?

[restive river]

Xaku is not a singular entity lol

[dark compass]

Void noodles

[ashen pulsar]

I mean
xaku's not even piloted by the frames
xaku's just three dead frames' body parts piloted by random void spirits

[sharp breach]

This is a fun argument

[restive river]

You can explore it a bit with Drifter which technically applies to both of tjem so

[restive river]

More of a discussion really, nobody’s fighting

[fast dew]

It's like saying a very poorly reconstructed mug made from several other mugs are one mug

[glass sluice]

I would rather put my head through a wall than have to hear this again.
"theyre non binary" is the literal extent of this.

[fast dew]

No, its multiple mugs but its forming one, barely held together, maybe a mug™

[restive river]

Not random void spirits
The void spirits are likely the lost frames

Their mind is not singular, that’s fairly evident in their animations to me

[sharp breach]

Oh this reminds me of the metaphor I came up with the voidrigs and protoframes them warframes being like the evolutions of phones

[ashen pulsar]

mm
maybe

[fast dew]

Do they not try to explode randomly

I swear they do

[quick agate]

True

[dark compass]

Agile animations constantly have random parts flying away.

[sharp breach]

I feel like xaku should have the Excalibur umbra passive more now

[fast dew]

Id like that tbh

[dark compass]

In pistol agile animation, Xaku reloads their arm

[fast dew]

Oh

[dark compass]

Funniest shit ever

[restive river]

Makes more sense than random void spirits that don’t exist without something to make them exist
The spirits come from somewhere via conceptual embodiment
The Lost frames are how Xaku exists, their emotions are what caused them to be what they are and what drives them now as a mind

[fast dew]

Awesome actually

[dark compass]

Just pulls one from the back

[glass sluice]

oh mission impossible 6 style?

https://tenor.com/view/henry-cavill-gif-22574298

[fast dew]

Woo hello

Man

[dark compass]

https://youtu.be/9QwdP4_dFfs

0:33

No...

[restive lantern]

"Xaku exists as an entity thrice entwined"
The wiki literally says they were 3 war frames and now exist as one entity

[glass sluice]

every time i see that gif, it reminds me that he picked that movie over shaving his moustache for superman

[ashen pulsar]

wait... so... xaku is like the holdfasts
but warframe
but MULTIPLE IN ONE
BUT IN A REAL BODY

[dark compass]

It's even funnier

[glass sluice]

LAME

[restive river]

Yeah kinda!

[fast dew]

I need to make this into a wiki version

Wait theres the

[glass sluice]

make it Drifter and Roathe, with Roathe being the AI one.

[restive lantern]

Why are you like this

[fast dew]

Remember chat

[sharp breach]

So xaku basically has tourettes

[glass sluice]

I'm wondering how many people here don't have the ublock origin filter in place for AI overview
its a single line of text

[restive river]

More like multiple personalities since it’s multiple minds in one body

[fast dew]

I have -ai in my clipboard to help tbh. That usually helps. Or just putting shit in it sometimes helps

[glass sluice]

oh this is literally just a line of text in ublock and no more ai overview

[restive river]

Swear at the ai and sometimes it gets scared

[dark compass]

There's one important reveal in these animations

Xaku has a back compartment for spare parts

[restive lantern]

That's so cute lol

[sharp breach]

XAKU IS MR POTATO HEAD

[fast dew]

Neat. Id just be concerned about how YouTube would function with it. Iirc it loves to shit itself over it constantly

[restive river]

I think it’d be Mx Potato Head but idr what it is for those who aren’t in the typical binary

[dark compass]

Just potato head

[fast dew]

Mx potato Head

[dark compass]

Like me

[glass sluice]

oh it'll take a few extra seconds, but I can confirm it will work.

[fast dew]

God dammit ducky

[glass sluice]

and ive got a LOT of extensions for privacy

[restive river]

You can not beat me when it comes to MY BONES

[restive lantern]

It depends on the person typically

[sharp breach]

The potato head

[fast dew]

I actually have my honorific as that when I go to the Calvary, its really odd

[restive river]

Well considering they’re 3 people, 3 minds stitched together a singular pronoun like Mr/Ms/Mx doesn’t really apply anyway lol

I wouldn’t call the community Mr. or Ms. Warframe lol

[fast dew]

Why is the Calvary [the church] fine with doing that 💀 considering they explode at the site of my obgyn doing what she is paid to do at a separate hospital

[fast dew]

The Warframe ™

[restive river]

THE XAKU

THATS THE ONE LOL

[fast dew]

The great and terrible hunhow........

[sharp breach]

https://tenor.com/view/the-amazing-world-of-gumball-gumball-darwin-potato-bohemian-rhapsody-gif-4911354250126702094

[dark compass]

The great and the terrible the Hunhow

[glass sluice]

I think we all know, that Hot Sludge remains the superior honoria.

[fast dew]

I like the god above knowledge

[dark compass]

I prefer "Early Lunch for"

[restive river]

Basically Xaku

[fast dew]

Or the maniac of deimos

[glass sluice]

I use anything that sounds "impressive" and I feel like a twit.

[fast dew]

Real

[sharp breach]

It took a sec to find it lol

[glass sluice]

gotta be as insulting to me as possible, or funny.

[fast dew]

Dw most warframe fans cant read

[dark compass]

"Wolf Mother" was them stopping themselves right before making it "Wolf Mommy"

[fast dew]

So you're better than most

[glass sluice]

@dark compass see that one works for me, because i love that band

[sharp breach]

If there was audio book reader in warframe for lore that'd be neat.

[glass sluice]

plot twist: its alad v.

[dark compass]

They probably won't make it happen but Registered Loser would've worked so well

[glass sluice]

I am shocked we didnt get that

[dark compass]

Glyph exists

[glass sluice]

the other one we badly needed was "ordis' mute button". For the monsters out there.

[fast dew]

Well. Its not warframe but both Albrecht's and Loid's VAs do audiobooks. Though, I don't think I can share any.

[glass sluice]

I only found out this week that Andy Serkis has done the LOTR trilogy as an audio-book, and I may vanish for a little while.

[restive lantern]

I honestly wish their first nonbinary frame wasn't like this lol shout out to temple tho

[fast dew]

I would pay good money to have those two read fanfic actually

[dark compass]

Honoria for killing every single version of Alad V bossfight.
"Plot Armored"

[fast dew]

Wonder if they take commissions or anything

[glass sluice]

I'm still holding out on getting "pinball guardian" as a title for des2, for the sheer amount of times I've been killed by being slammed into a wall.

[fast dew]

STEFAN COME HERE

[glass sluice]

@fast dew hey just a heads up, there's a fairly famous issue back in the day, of fans at a convention cornering vay-hek's VA and sorta forcing him to say the infamous joke version of the line.
So make sure if you find a way to ask them, it's 100% cool with all parties.

[dark compass]

They're planning to add Honoria for every single frame I assume

[restive river]

I mean technically Xaku’s not nonbinary in that way
But Temple is

[fast dew]

I KNOW WHAT YOU VOICE COME HERE I NEED TO SHOW YOU SHIT

[restive river]

https://tenor.com/view/xaku-warframe-nonbinary-non-binary-picmix-gif-13546531829644806588

[glass sluice]

Some VA's are cool with it, but others feel not so okay, and it is a job for them, not a feti sh

[restive river]

Nonbinary not because of identity but because they are multiple people lol

[restive lantern]

Yeah and I think that's a bummer

[restive river]

Which I stand by the idea Xaku could technically be genderfluid if not just nonbinary, it’s tough though since they aren’t a normal mind

[sharp breach]

I'd wanna hear tyl regor get more into his lines. The way he says some sounds dirty lol

[dark compass]

It's two paths

Either commissioning a voice actor, or have someone with an insanely good impression

[fast dew]

Gender queer but in the way that we're unsure of what the gender may be

[restive river]

I disagree, Xaku’s very cool and them being a multitude is fantastic

[glass sluice]

that can end up weird, and down the ever horrible "ai voice" route

[dark compass]

No

Just no

[fast dew]

I mean, im sure. Gianni Matragrano would if I threw him enough money

[sharp breach]

I cannot expect de to use Ai voices its like the antithesis to all the quirky voices they have casted for

[fast dew]

Mf says anything

[dark compass]

Like that one guy who has a perfect impression of Drifter from Deadlock who recited Dracula Flow

[fast dew]

Oh my god

[restive river]

They’re very openly anti AI
We don’t gotta worry bout a thing

[fast dew]

Thats right Gianni voices stalker lmfao

[dark compass]

Yeah he does

[restive lantern]

That's fair, everyone has their own opinion. It's just frustrating to hear people refer to them as plural, etc. nothing against the character, just more frustrated with the community in that aspect

[fast dew]

I cannot escape him

[dark compass]

What were you escaping from

[sharp breach]

Ya know thats probably why some enemies pathing sucks lol (no hate tho just joking)

[restive river]

Someone on the translation team used chatgpt for translating the triad into russian and they used chatgpt
I don’t think that person has a job anymore lmao

[fast dew]

Gianni hes been in so many games o like 😭

HES IN SERIOUS SAM????

[dark compass]

He does a good duke impression to be fair

That's like half of his youtube career

[restive river]

Why is that frustrating, in this instance they are they/them because they are plural

[glass sluice]

as someone who has been accused of using AI in my job more than a few times, I can attest that AI accusations are freaking everywhere now.

[fast dew]

Once again I am hit by Gianni being in shit i like

[restive river]

I’d get it if people did that for Temple but Xaku is specifically they/them because plurality

[glass sluice]

non-binary is not the same as multiple people

[fast dew]

Its not a bad thing but its like seeing the same person over and over but its genuinely a coincidence

[restive river]

I know, Xaku isn’t nonbinary in that way though
They’re literally a multitude

[fast dew]

Next we're gonna see him in like

Mucking postal or some shit

[sharp breach]

I haven't been using Ai in school and probably won't. gramarly messed up for me too recently commas added in the middle of words lol

[fast dew]

Especially considering postal brain damage is getting a dlc now

[glass sluice]

Xaku was made up of multiple people, they are now a single entity who is nonbinary, its really that simple.

[restive river]

No…

[restive lantern]

Rivens ily you're such a common sense icon

[restive river]

They are very explicitly a multitude

[fast dew]

HES ALSO IN ENDOPARASITIC

Im gonna stop before I give myself a stroke

[glass sluice]

What they are now is all that should matter.

[restive river]

Xaku is and always will be a composite
They are not nonbinary in terms of identity but because they are literally multiple individuals forced into a singular shape
They aren’t like Flare/Temple.

[restive river]

And you’re blatantly ignoring what they are by saying they aren’t a composite.

[glass sluice]

look again

[restive river]

but they aren’t a singular entity.

[glass sluice]

"a warframe".

[fast dew]

"Is a composite" good enough

[restive river]

They are multiple warframe corpses stitched together and piloted by multiple void spirits
They are a COMPOSITE
They aren’t singular.

[sharp breach]

Idk what the argument is about tbh

[restive lantern]

I honestly don't know either I'm not understanding how these are conflicting ideas

[glass sluice]

Ducky is refusing to call xaku nonbinary for some reason, and i cant tell exactly why.

[restive river]

I’m saying they aren’t nonbinary in the way Flare is

[sharp breach]

Oh so like as in thinking non binary and being a collective are exclusive cant both but you say they are

[dark compass]

They're nonbinary because I said so

[restive river]

https://tenor.com/view/xaku-warframe-nonbinary-non-binary-picmix-gif-13546531829644806588

[dark compass]

Because I have the authority

[restive river]

I’ve posted this 3 times I know they’re nonbinary 😭

[fast dew]

Should've asked Rebecca

[dark compass]

No you should only ask me

[restive lantern]

Box I knew you'd save us, you're so right

[sharp breach]

Oh well then no worth giving power if thats the argument lol

[glass sluice]

Rebb said their pronouns, that is good enough for anyone here.

[dark compass]

-And my authority too!!!

[glass sluice]

and yes I used Rebb on purpose instead of Reb.

[restive river]

Box > Rebb

[fast dew]

Erm achtually

... uh

[dark compass]

She has one Deadlock cosplay on her count, I have none

I'm not as powerful yet as her

[restive lantern]

yet

[restive river]

yet

[dark compass]

She cosplayed a non-binary character by the way. A character who is two people stuck in one body

[glass sluice]

She's actually an ascended spirit, she died after eating that spoonful of vegemite all those years ago

[dark compass]

How convenient

[sharp breach]

I agree they are they now but idk nor do I care about their gender so ima say they are a frankenstines monster amalgam with no reproductive features so they cant be non binary if they dont have either because as humans non binary you usually have one otherwise you'll die cuz you cant pee

[glass sluice]

still so proud of skillup for that one. He 100% got those from the breakfast bar of that hotel

[restive lantern]

That's... Rough

[dark compass]

Xaku dies from pee explosion

[restive lantern]

Do not tell this person about intersex ppl it may kill them

[sharp breach]

Isnt their 4th a pee explosion lol

[dark compass]

Oh god it's everywhere

The vast untime

[glass sluice]

I honestly worry about how many deaths im responsible for when i posted about that one time on twitter

slightly more than the time i mentioned Lara Croft was meant to be gay in the recent tomb raiders.

[restive lantern]

Dude I cannot imagine how many gamers you killed with that

[glass sluice]

the blood was everywhere

[sharp breach]

The boy in that recent Disney movie was supposed to be gay too i hear

[dark compass]

Which one?

[fast dew]

Theres a lot of supposed to be queer folk in Disney properties

Shout out to gravity falls

[glass sluice]

If you're curious, look up the writer for them, daughter of Terry Pratchett actually.

[sharp breach]

Elio

[dark compass]

Yeah they just always make them convenient enough to cut for foreign releases

Shout-out to how they removed black people from star wars posters in china

[fast dew]

[sharp breach]

I know what ur talking about too lol

[fast dew]

How do they expect that to work in the movie itself?

[dark compass]

Main protagonist was supposed to be non-binary and the story was supposed to have an environmentalism focused message. They cut that all out

[fast dew]

Do they just conveniently put cuts in the film?

[glass sluice]

@fast dew considering a certain country demanded the statue of liberty be removed from the spiderman no way home for release there, im imagining it gets messy

the entire final act, thanos-snapped out of the movie

[fast dew]

... ik its probably not france but that sounds like something that france would do

[sharp breach]

Hmmm ive heard only that he was supposed to be gay as a self insert for the creator but company stopped him

[dark compass]

Or how Sony games have the "anti woke mode"

That bleaches out all mentions of queer people including pride flags in the environment

[glass sluice]

if you have to ask, you know who it was

[fast dew]

Mm.

Joy.

Actually.

[restive lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-3584473422170938815

[dark compass]

Oh well

[restive lantern]

Me when anti woke mode gets turned on

[glass sluice]

shout-out to that one couple in buzz lightyear, i hope they're doing well

[dark compass]

Yeah that's literally what happens

[fast dew]

The cars films have an accurate new York skyline

[dark compass]

All mentions and character designs and flags

[fast dew]

So this implies that 9/11 happened. Somehow

Weird considering the planes are sentient

[glass sluice]

well, we did get a sequel named planes

[dark compass]

Car jesus died for our car sins or something

[fast dew]

How does one hijack a sentient plane i wonder

Mm. Bully them maybe

[dark compass]

Ever heard of another Pixar masterpiece called Ratatouille

[fast dew]

Not like literal bullying

[sharp breach]

They made sure to not name it planes 2 and instead called it planes fire and rescue lol

[fast dew]

I mean like physically moving it

[dark compass]

Grab em by the insides

[restive lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-hair-control-puppet-remy-gif-2798060124926512454

[glass sluice]

oh lord, thats WAY worse

[fast dew]

That film was pretty.

[glass sluice]

"planes: what we needed after the attack"

[fast dew]

THWRES A PERSON OUTSIFE

[sharp breach]

Ive heard its more like they'd take the personality of whoever drove them originally

[glass sluice]

imagine the Sully plane

[fast dew]

I already have issues with how that world works

[glass sluice]

is it the fact that their doors can open?

[sharp breach]

Yeah like organs and the tongue

[fast dew]

One of the many reasons.

I aint against weird biological shit but man

[glass sluice]

its also implied that some of them wear a form of clothing, in extra parts, like Mater's hood

so the others are all just flashing us constantly

[sharp breach]

The aging thing is what bothers me and birth for that matter.

[fast dew]

Good lord. This is why I never watched that shit 😭

There's the queen of England

[glass sluice]

honestly the first one holds up

[fast dew]

I actually really liked the second one tbh

[sharp breach]

Its best as a single not really as a watch after cars 1

[dark compass]

Wasn't the second cars movie about "outdated" models plotting a conspiracy with ultra rich to murder people because they're unhealthy and can't get parts anymore

That was kind of messed up

[glass sluice]

its a pixar movie, theyre all secretly messed up

[fast dew]

.. I think this is Robots

[dark compass]

No no in cars those were the villains

[sharp breach]

Omg yeah u right

[fast dew]

That. Thats so funny because that's deadass the plot of Robots

[dark compass]

In cars 2 villains were old cars who couldn't afford replacement so they started killing people

[sharp breach]

Its actually a spy thriller that has murder beams and a attempt to fear evolution

[fast dew]

Mm. Thats right

[dark compass]

In robots those are the good guys

[fast dew]

Weird lmao

[dark compass]

Robots radicalized me

[sharp breach]

Gotta make sure the new generations see those early woke stuff

[fast dew]

It was an incredible film

A bit silly but it was good

[dark compass]

The fart joke where they killed a person was a bit much

[fast dew]

There were some choices

[sharp breach]

The ending song part was goated tho

[dark compass]

"fear evolution" and the villain is terminally ill people unable to afford healthcare

I watched it because someone recommended me to watch cars 1 so I went for the trilogy

Second movie was so wrong on so many levels

The whole "the oppressed minority who is literally dying by the current economical climate is actually secretly controlling the rich to kill us"

"and the government is actually helping us stop them"

[fast dew]

Nodding nodding

[sharp breach]

Omg did cars try to make us belive the government more than the poor who are suffering

[dark compass]

Yeah the poor were literally the villains of the story

Not just poor, terminally ill poor people were straight up the antagonists

[sharp breach]

THEY UNDOING THE WORK ROBOTS DID

[fast dew]

Violence.

[dark compass]

It was not like a couple bad apples

It was straight up "a conspiracy among these types of cars"

I can't believe the people with terminal health conditions are developing death lasers

[fast dew]

I mean

Samuel hayden kinda did that and he had brain cancer 😭

[sharp breach]

But this is like in a big roundabout way trying to get us against the minority irl unlike past movies which were more pro revolution

This is low key scary

[fast dew]

Mm, none of us are immune to propaganda, or whatever the saying is

[sharp breach]

Got too niche and political it killed the chat for now

[radiant pier]

pffft, sounds so unrealistic

[fast dew]

Nawh just heating up sketty

Sketty n garlic bred

[dark compass]

It's lore chat, cars lore

[glass sluice]

wait, how did you know im running for office?

[radiant pier]

what kind of society would allow for decrepit bitter old people have so much power over the world, I mean murdering those younger just because they don't want to quietly screw off? so unreali-wait a sec

[fast dew]

Despite our differences, the Australian government needs at least one queer person inside it.

[restive lantern]

I'd vote 😄

[glass sluice]

My first order of business is to legalise 1 punch to Tony Abbott per day, per person.

[fast dew]

Im afraid id call someone several insults for trying to do something dumb.

Again.

Yayy i can punch tony Abbott yayy

Does this mean I can beat the shit out of Pauline Hanson?

[sharp breach]

Having siblings why would I work in a job to get talked over on purpose

[fast dew]

I have. Far too many siblings.

I get that.

-# got 13 all up

[radiant pier]

wait is it not...the decrepit ultra rich using/tricking the terminally ill into thinking they're on the same side and making em murder people?

[sharp breach]

I wonder if most politicians are single children

[radiant pier]

-# I might have forgotten the plot of cars 2

[fast dew]

Mm. A chunk are. A lot don't seem to remember the pain of mortality

They need to be reminded.

[glass sluice]

for that one, you may have to please explain 😉

[fast dew]

And getting your ass beat by a sibling definitely helps

[sharp breach]

Spys. Death lazers. Mater. Bomb. Poor/unhealthy try to kill rich healthy basically

[radiant pier]

were the bad guys terminally ill? weren't they just outdated and bitter?

[glass sluice]

just because only Thomas and I will get this joke, here have this

[radiant pier]

and rich

[glass sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-cricket-prime-minister-john-howard-gif-8104873

[sharp breach]

1 boy 1 girl seems like the perfect amount per family unit imo

[fast dew]

Given how heavy anti immigration she is, which. Is a bad thing because thats how the majority of our labour forces work, and she's just mad racist and supportive of a certain country in the middle east, id say she deserves to have some teeth removed via punching

[glass sluice]

okay you didnt get it lol
someone asked her in an interview like 30 years ago if she was xenophobic, and she went "please explain". It became a common australian slang for someone being a total tool bag/idiot.

[glass sluice]

now your just going nuclear

[fast dew]

OH.

Well that explains it, that was 30 years ago, I wasnt even a concept in my mother's mind

Not that she wanted me, mind

[sharp breach]

Boy has to have a 3rd arm on forehead and girl has to have 16 toes placement negligible

[dark compass]

No

[radiant pier]

I'm just gonna ignore cars 2

[dark compass]

The allegory was clearly about people who were incapable to afford healthcare because they are terminally/chronically ill

And the world moving past them

[sharp breach]

They were also forced to criminal stuff then huh

[dark compass]

So they(and I mean THE ENTIRE SLATE OF SOCIETY)

Conspire with one rich asshole to kill people over it

Under the pretense of fake eco fuel "being bad actually"

So kids remember

People will health conditions are trying to kill us all

And eco friendly fuel is actually going to blow up your car

[radiant pier]

oh damn wait

[dark compass]

(imagine the juice is a can of gasoline)

[radiant pier]

wait you right no wonder people hate that film

[sharp breach]

Very anti people we should care for

[radiant pier]

wait didn't they end off with McQueen having organic fuel actually saved him

[dark compass]

The idea that eco fuel is real but is designed to kill you

[sharp breach]

The person you'd least expect the general from back home not the hippie saved him

[radiant pier]

aren't they gay

[sharp breach]

Wait how would car yaoi work

[radiant pier]

are we now about to discuss about car yaoi

[sharp breach]

You started this

[dark compass]

Cars lore

[radiant pier]

I feel like I shoulda realized Cars 2 was bad when they showed the queen as good

was that the queen

yeah I'm just gonna

erase cars 2 from my brain clearly I missed some things, agreed?

[sharp breach]

Just cleanse it by watching robots with its antithesis to the message from cars 2

[glass sluice]

Or watch a good movie instead.

[radiant pier]

I'll go watch Look Back

[dark compass]

I watched The Menu recently

Fun time

[sharp breach]

Watch nope?

[glass sluice]

Nope.

[radiant pier]

what about....planes 2

[sharp breach]

horton hears a who with Jim Carrey i like that one for the music

[restive lantern]

Y'all still talking about cars 😭

Wait what if tenno could control cars like a Warframe

[sharp breach]

The only way I can imagine cars being sentient with warframe is if they were infested like that hollivania tank then we got some real horrors on our hands

[radiant pier]

holy shit you're right

[dark compass]

Hollvania tank but it has cartoon eyes

[velvet harness]

Hey kiddo

[midnight ice]

special execution method to slap on googly eyes on the tank

[fast dew]

So thats how you get the unique glyphs

[midnight ice]

driving 300 mph down the I-95 and i accidentally transference out of the car which crashes into an orokin family of five

[fast dew]

Eh. Maybe the family deserved it

[midnight ice]

they did but the car didnt

[fast dew]

The poor car :(

Oh my god.

Yk whats something I dont think folk talk about enough? Albrecht having a shawzin that produces electric rock sounds. I think thats neat.

[smoky gulch]

Is Ticker's voicebox type a personal choice or are Corpus against transition?

[fast dew]

Oh, personal choice. They use a guy for her VA lol

-# Ticker's va is called Guy

-# laugh im being funny

[smoky gulch]

Yeah, that's kinda on the nose

[fast dew]

He's Australian oh thats why he was at tennovip here lmao

Honestly the corpus wouldn't be against it. Especially if it made you work better, or work for less [the corpus would pay women less/j]

[smoky gulch]

Hmmm, considering Corpus religion in theory, they would encourage individual's right to self-determine

In practice, they'd be happy if it doesn't attack status quo while making you efficient

[fast dew]

The orokin would too, but exclusively for themselves i feel. Too close to continuity

No only we can be gender queer go get jade light'd

[smoky gulch]

Hmmm, Orokin would consider transition to be just using continuity to change vessels

They should have means to do medical one, but why bother if you can just ditch previous body

[fast dew]

They only care about relationships when it messes with their precious caste/class system tbh. Even then, if its an orokin dating someone lower caste/class, the orokin would just go unpunished

So. Being gay is a-okay in the orokin empire

Just dont go outside your designated set of people.

[fast dew]

I would think some would change their bodies a ridiculous amount regardless tbh

[smoky gulch]

Honestly it's interesting how there's strict caste system among Orokin, but thankfully little to none sexism

At least I didn't notice

[fast dew]

Well sexism is pointless if you can just change gender at a whim

Ballas is a little vindictive towards women but. I think thats moreso from we don't really see him interact with men like. At all

Best we got is Nihil and the creation of Gara

[drowsy saddle]

Its only gay if you bottom

[fast dew]

Well that settles it. Albrecht's gay as shit

[strange turtle]

Continuity seems to have been much more valuable for them than we usually think. Roathe says that not all the Orokin had Continuity guaranteed, and Teshin specifically describes the Orokin at the Theatres as having been in “withering and coughing” bodies - which means they’d be degraded and at the ends of their lifespan

[elfin finch]

what a conversation to tab into at 7AM

[fast dew]

Its an interesting one

And totally correct

[elfin finch]

yes!!

[fast dew]

Muck you all, im tired of their relationship being the way its portrayed in fanworks

ALBRECHT IS A WET RAG LET HIM BE PATHETIC

[elfin finch]

im just getting there and i had a moment of like. ohhh this is the old man yaoi everyones been talking about

[fast dew]

Oh my god 😭 yeah

Gay ass old men

[bronze pier]

Cryoleums... Hmmm. Did the orokin preserve their dead in case they found true resurrection?

[fast dew]

No lmfao

They were just poor

Maybe if their family got lucky

[bronze pier]

Oh, not saying every folk got entombed in water this "Cryoleum" is, but Archmedias and low tier orokin seemingly were

Not important enough to waste Kuva on, but potentially important enough not to burn into ash and thrown in a landfill?

Cryo does kinda imply preserving/some kinda stasis or freezing. Leum though? I have no clue. Google-Fu has just lead me to knowing it means "to leap" in Scottish Gaelic

[fast dew]

Mhm.

[fast dew]

Colosseum.

Cryo-l-eum

[bronze pier]

I don't know what that would imply either, and the words might not even be related in the first place. They could just rhyme

[fast dew]

Do you know the Colosseum in Rome?

[bronze pier]

Maybe it truly is where the corpses fight for the entertainment of orokin nobles?

[bronze pier]

Yeah, what about it?

[fast dew]

Its probably more of a. "Gallery"

[fast dew]

Think of that building, but think exclusively used for "art", instead of just. Murder lol

[bronze pier]

Hmhmm. That's not bad idea

[fast dew]

Thsts what im getting

[bronze pier]

Cryo Leums. Maybe more like Cryo-Museum. Maybe that's what it's going for lol

[fast dew]

The entrati family were probably gonna get cryo'd tbh

[bronze pier]

A gallery of preserved dead

[fast dew]

If Albrecht didnt pull his shit together and make void travel

[bronze pier]

You know, we do know that orokin who don't go through continuity can be entombed. As the Zariman tablets implie. Maybe the Cryoleum is where they entombe those who refuse or aren't "quite* worthy of the sacred kuva

[fast dew]

Mhm. On lua.

[strange turtle]

Considering the way Roathe presents it and the fact it was for Archimedeans too, just seems like it was them getting a special form of... whatever the general term for doing stuff for dead people is. As opposed to burying the corpse in dirt, letting it rot, burning it, etc (which would probably be seen as undignified and for the poor people, rather than just preserving the body)

[fast dew]

Interesting that the origin system was probably lied to, about what happened to Albrecht

Not like. Oh he went and did time shit

The other members of the entrati family were ||told he was letting himself die||, so for something completely different to be suggested is strange

[bronze pier]

No doubt. I mean, he left tablets and tricked his own family. Maybe he made a fake clone corpse for the orokin to entomb, for all we know

[fast dew]

Mm. This isnt. Good for the "did Albrecht do continuity again after he said he wouldn't" problem, He could have easily used the possible past body

[strange turtle]

Tablets?

[fast dew]

Panels, is what it is

[strange turtle]

Ah the requiem things

[bronze pier]

It seems very orokin to preserve the dead in stasis, even with zero chance of bringing them back. I mean, what better encapsulates the orokin than preventing a gilded, rotting corpse from returning to nature?

[fast dew]

Panels could be. A few things I think. I'm not sure if the entrati family could actually access the requiem logs, given we couldn't

[fast dew]

Mm. The better version of glassing. Turns out that was an extremely controversial punishment

Nihil would hate the Entrati lol

[bronze pier]

Glassing is like... "Hey, how about you really get to live forever?"

[fast dew]

They hated that you could manipulate the memories of the person. Which. Is a kinda fair thing to hate

[bronze pier]

With the stipulation that if you don't consent to glassing... Chances are you're gonna be glassed anyway, and your mind tapered with

[fast dew]

The orokin are horrible and evil but they have very few, but existing, decent points

[bronze pier]

At least with suda/simaris, it seems their own minds were allowed freedom, as they willingly became cephalons

[fast dew]

Such hating ai, gender? What's that?, the staunch dislike against manipulating memories

Some pretty good points. Too bad they're mostly child murdering asshats

[bronze pier]

It does make them massive hypocrites that they'd mess with the memories of cephalons though haha. But I guess they saw them as less than "people"

[fast dew]

Mm, if its willing, apparently its not painful at all

[fast dew]

Thats why it was controversial, according to Roach. It was a "oh you really mucked up" situation

Most folk just went through the jade light

[bronze pier]

Apparently not even I believe. Petty criminals got dispatched by Dax, Piss off orokin? Jade light. Reallllly piss off an orokin? Welcome to your new hell as a glass statue ❤️

[fast dew]

It seems to be more if you personally pissed off Nihil. Executions generally had to go through the 7 first

And yes, Nihil isnt one of the 7

That got shot into the ground

[bronze pier]

It seems selective. Like, if you were more than a common peasant, you'd be graced with a more proper execution

AKA Jade Light or Glassing

[fast dew]

They would rather glass important people. And. Gara for whatever reason

Calm down Nihil

[bronze pier]

Nihil was just pissy gara had the gall to volunteer to become a frame

[fast dew]

Which makes him not being a member of the 7, and still insisting that even funnier

[bronze pier]

Yeah, seems to be the case. They'd glass important folk OR people they know would hate it like ordan.

[fast dew]

Nihil was an entitled asshat and its funny

And then there's. Whatever the hell necraloid is

[bronze pier]

The might've glassed margulis of not for Ballas. I've no doubt Ballas would go on a warpath to prevent his love from getting a "disgraceful" fate

[bronze pier]

As far as we know? A cephalon variant

[fast dew]

Ik, its.

Odd though. The weird conversation Marie has about him having a soul or not

[bronze pier]

Seemingly a copied brain of loid, glassed? Exact details aren't around yet

[fast dew]

Theres the term "Necralized" Mother uses, but it was followed up with the expectation that he died from it

[bronze pier]

It's interesting because this implies orokin don't consider brain scans to be "true" immortality. They might understand it's not "Them" that's living on. Which makes one wonder the mechanics of Kuva even more, as it was seemingly, truly, a transfer of the mind and/or soul

[fast dew]

Void related things tend to have this weird connection to the mind and consciousness

[bronze pier]

Yeah, it's way deeper than we think.

[fast dew]

Wally/us, the functions of Conceptual embodiment, kuva,

[bronze pier]

I mean, the holdfast they were recreated as void copies... But they remember everything, including their deaths

It sort of implies consciousness not being fully bound to a living individual

[fast dew]

Oro, or whatever that is.

Given how Albrecht treats it

It does seem to be consciousness related. Maybe another term for soul

He dismisses that animals could have it

[bronze pier]

Funny how Oro went from conclave mechanic to a rather interesting piece of lorr

[fast dew]

Other than. His kavat

[bronze pier]

He did mention the having Oro, but not like, "True" Oro, like, they live, they exist, but they aren't equivalent to humanity, who possess a deeper understanding of the world

And of course Kalymos

[fast dew]

"Lacked the distinction of a singular mind" other than the kavat id let represent me in court

[bronze pier]

The real plot twist: the man in the wall...

[fast dew]

He really thinks she's super smart

[bronze pier]

Was actually the dark reflection of Kalymos

The Kalymos in the wall if you will

[fast dew]

Its kinda cute, in his own messed up way

[fast dew]

Kalymos... is no longer a palymos...

[bronze pier]

"MEOWULL MEW MEOTA MEOK. MEOWRA LOHK?"

[fast dew]

Feed her some tuna and she might behave

[bronze pier]

Where is her Kuva Mix?

[fast dew]

I wonder if she prefers wet or dry food

[fast dew]

THE CONCEPT OF THIS JUST EXISTING 😭

[minor axle]

Cataclysm lives

[fast dew]

Delightful name

[minor axle]

As I say this my cat steps on my keyboard.

Cataclysm prefers Forma though. Omni is their favourite.

[fast dew]

I just have kalymos

You can see her here

Tiny little kalimmi

[minor axle]

Same. I have her equipped on every Protoframe loadout.

[fast dew]

What's the point of using the skin if not for kalymos yk?

[minor axle]

I need new Hardmode images for the new Protoframes...

Also have these two. Wonder if anyone gets the reference?

[strange turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-robot-no-no-text-gif-1697004565875031511

[ocean geyser]

She’s intrigued by that particular side of the wall perhap

[ocean geyser]

^

[tall echo]

most of the new protos have their own glyphs

just gotta buy em

[round granite]

Am new to Warframe. Didnt look deep into the Lore. Always had the impression Warframes were biomechanical artificial lifeforms

[round granite]

But here I see them as people?

[strange turtle]

Spoiler

Just avoid this chat for now, and know that these are exceptions

[round granite]

Ok. But they're not artificial lifeforms?

[strange turtle]

You’ll learn more in The Sacrifice, post-Whispers in the Walls codex stuff+The Hex

[minor axle]

I mean, you could have just said they are characters you meet later. Technically not lying.

[round granite]

Quests?

[strange turtle]

Yes

[round granite]

Ok. Well thnx

[minor axle]

They are bio-mechanical.

[round granite]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-bob-esponja-spongebob-celebrating-shout-gif-15748766

https://tenor.com/view/samuel-l-jackson-thats-all-you-had-to-say-pulp-fiction-gif-14346348

✌️

[minor axle]

What's the lore reason for Warframes being weak to small trucks?

[woven coyote]

If you mean the aoi scene its just them not being used to their powers

[minor axle]

The Drifter also struggles to lift the truck using their Warframe.

[cunning tapir]

Trucks are void-powered vehicles that can yeet people to parallel worlds, have not seen any isekai anime ever? /joking

[nocturne plover]

I got to The New War and ||I miss my baby Tenno||

When are we getting an official apology from ballas? I just wanna talk to him—

[timber merlin]

as someone who's new to warframe, what is the lore behind this game??

[spice wedge]

Go throught the game and you will understand it eventually

[strange turtle]

We were a warrior caste serving the Orokin Empire, the Orokin Ruling Caste were not nice, so once we won their war we rebelled and killed most of them before taking a 1000 year nap

The Grineer were their common labourers, Corpus also existed, then both rose to power after the Empire fell

[ashen pulsar]

official apology? No apology could get us to forgive him

[dark compass]

Do people just not pay attention to the game anymore

[lapis fiber]

If I’m redoing story do I start at natah or before

[midnight ice]

tenno weak to Reading dmg type

[midnight ice]

natah is fine

[lapis fiber]

Ok does quests like heart of Deimos matter for lore

[midnight ice]

sorta? they're a bit of lore about the Entrati family

its a bit of its own thinf

[lapis fiber]

So do I replay that or just natah and after

[midnight ice]

up to you if you care about it or not

[lapis fiber]

Ok

[timber merlin]

i meant for someone who's new. I already played through the entire campaign

[midnight ice]

rodney gave a good overview

nitty gritty details cwn be expounded from it

[silk atlas]

Who the heck is Rodney???

[midnight ice]

^ ?

i was assuming everythinf under what zijad said was also read

[lapis fiber]

Wait could you give me a summary of natah and before if you don’t mind

[silk atlas]

I just got here and didn't read up, thought this was a different convo

[timber merlin]

yes yes I did read it thank you guys. i'm not the best with explaining the game to her

[midnight ice]

i do mind its 3 am
someone will probably hop on and help

[lapis fiber]

Ok

[nocturne plover]

Oh of course not, but it’d be icing on the cake before the Tenno wrings his little neck

[ashen pulsar]

tbh it’d be so out of character that I’d rather we don’t have it

[restive lantern]

|| "The tomb is revealed to contain the Sentient Hunhow, destroyer of worlds, who calls for Natah. While the Tenno reseal the tomb, the Lotus reveals that "Natah" is her former name during her time as a Sentient, and was in some way responsible for the fall of the Orokin Empire."
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Natah ||
The official Warframe wiki isn't perfect but it will probably help with most lore questions

[west karma]

probably overthinking a bit, but are the idle animations from the frames, the operator's/drifter's doing or are they like, involuntary movements from the frames themselves?

[silk atlas]

The personality of the frame is being imprinted on Tenno through the frame.

[west karma]

ooooh!

[woven coyote]

Yup and that very much confirmed by drifter in the kim chats

[strange turtle]

@west karma

[ashen pulsar]

or in a certain case, the personalities

[west karma]

oh, cool!

[minor axle]

"Extremely Rad Sticker Pack" "Product of Lasria"

Looks like Dark Sector's back on the menu!

[barren jasper]

whats that from?

[minor axle]

Peely Pix pack.

[barren jasper]

thats a fun easter egg

[pallid spoke]

1999 is full of Dark Sector references.

But, they're just references/easter-eggs, nothing more, Warframe and Dark Sector are not part of the same universe.

[minor axle]

The Purgator 1 has "Property of Lasrian Military" on it.

[pallid spoke]

And I'm pretty sure this was confirmed by DE somewhere.

[minor axle]

Yeah, it was.

I'm wondering if Lasria is an in-universe location.

[minor axle]

Here's the symbols translated.

I haven't seen them anywhere else.

[ocean geyser]

In 12 more years they’ll finally make the crossover

[minor axle]

I found another Dark Sector reference.

Also, has anyone translated this text?

[strange turtle]

Yeah Dark Sector is an in-universe fiction

Idr if it was a game or a book with a movie adaption though

[pallid spoke]

I thought it was a book? If I'm remembering what the movie poster said correctly.

[strange turtle]

Considering the setting of DS and WF, and what DS is about, Lasria’s probably just slotted in there along with Hollvania

[minor axle]

DE (in-universe) is developing a game called Dark Sector. There are posters around the city for a movie called Dark Score.

[ocean geyser]

War Sector to be specific

[minor axle]

Ah, yeah, mb

List of movies at the theatre in Höllvania:
The Liberteen(?) Bachelor
Dial _ Up For Death
The Hades Vendetta
Brp(?) Eve
Futurefls(?)
A Kiss at Slsteted(?)
Theatre Kids 2: Rise of the Cheerleaders
For Glory

[ocean geyser]

I would watch Theatre Kids tbh

[pastel ether]

Idk its a part 2 might miss a lot of context

[fast dew]

Liberteen sounds accurate tbh

Given the name of the USA

[glass sluice]

I do not recal seeing this one before

[fast dew]

This is a new one!

Came out with isleweaver iirc

[twin wigeon]

mhm

isleweaver was all about doom and gloom

[fast dew]

Speaking of, btw

So like. My brain finally realised why we didn't see Albrecht all of last year, but isleweaver is making that a little harder

[twin wigeon]

why didn't we see alb?

[fast dew]

Im thinking its cus like. We don't actually experience 1999 until we do the whole old peace thing. Yk like how. One of the devs says? That both 1999 and the old peace are happening at the same time?

[twin wigeon]

uhhhhh yeah

old peace and 1999 weirdly happen simultaneously

[fast dew]

So like. Of course we wouldn't see Albrecht, dude hasnt left 1999 yet but then

Then I remember isleweaver and its release

And that. We could use operator in isleweaver

[twin wigeon]

i remember one of the drifter lines discussing why they don't tell the kiddo about 1999 or introduce them to people, because theye did indeed have a lot on their plate

reliving the war and its trauma etc etc

[twin wigeon]

i thought that was patched no?

[fast dew]

Was it???

[twin wigeon]

pretty sure

[fast dew]

Hold on isleweaver time

[twin wigeon]

duviri is 100% drifter's domain

[nocturne plover]

Question regarding the new war:

how does ||ballas steal the lotus’s powers by kissing her?|| is there some sort of background lore about orokin being able to transfer abilities that way like with kuva?

[glacial bough]

He's part Sentient at that point

[twin wigeon]

as far as we know, orokin do not have that ability innately but at that point ballas was like half sentient with all the body grafting Erra put him thru

[ocean geyser]

She was also able to steal it back (and more…)
So it might be some sort of sentient thing

[twin wigeon]

those signature satyr legs were likely to mock ballas

[glass sluice]

I'm surprised we didn't see more "he's got legs for days" jokes about Ballas at the time.
I'm disappointed with the community.

[ocean geyser]

We just kept making jokes about calling him Ball Ass instead

[nocturne plover]

OHHH I thought he was infested

[ocean geyser]

Although by New War he doesn’t have either

[twin wigeon]

what no, marcus

[nocturne plover]

I thought they infected him with the infested virus as a punishment

[ocean geyser]

To be fair he does get the sentient body shape w/ now middle section

Although i understand the confusion

[twin wigeon]

his lower half is kinda like the Amalgam Satyrs Moas

[nocturne plover]

It didn’t click to me that he was part sentient by that point

[ocean geyser]

Given he was fleshy textured instead of sentient textured

[glass sluice]

That one div2 snitch card about wanting to give someone the squirts is all I think of when ever the unfiltered ballas hate comes up.

[twin wigeon]

i mean he was with the sentients for a while + the infested hate sentients innately

[nocturne plover]

That’s why I initially thought it had something to do with the infestation since the texture didn’t look…. Sentient-like? To me lol

[twin wigeon]

given that they were created to fight the sentients

[glass sluice]

@fast dew So, how do you feel about Warframes being robots, officially?

[twin wigeon]

warframes aren't robots tho

[nocturne plover]

lol

[twin wigeon]

rebb confirmed that warframes scale with imagination

[glass sluice]

Rebb's social media posts are that wonderful mix of corporate, and absolutely unhinged.

[twin wigeon]

aka warframes no diff destiny characters /j

[nocturne plover]

Warframes are actually alternate realities of the master chief from halo. In this essay I will—

[twin wigeon]

no.

[nocturne plover]

is joke

[twin wigeon]

ik.

😛

Thomas went to isle weave and was never seen again

[glass sluice]

I think thomas in the future saw the next picture i was going to post, and went back in the past to tell themself to log off instead.

[twin wigeon]

🥀

[fast dew]

Mm. Depends on the definition of robot

[fast dew]

Sorry I was in the middle of a ultrakill level and I. Do not know if they save half way through missions. And id rather not have to do any fraud layer again

[twin wigeon]

i mean to an extent we're poorly designed robots

[twin wigeon]

nah based wtf?

go back

[glass sluice]

robots with extra bacteria

[twin wigeon]

robots with extra unnecessary steps

[fast dew]

"a machine capable of carrying out a complex series of actions automatically, especially one programmable by a computer."

Now we gotta see if Warframes meet the definition of machine

[glass sluice]

"i assure you, giving all the feminine coded robots NSFW appeal was entirely necessary to the process"

[fast dew]

This is why I like doom

[nocturne plover]

How many fps did you lose

[twin wigeon]

lmaoa

[fast dew]

Sexual shit? Nah fam you gotta make it yourself

[fast dew]

Playing after hotfix, so none tbh

[nocturne plover]

Damn that’s good

[glass sluice]

I've seen enough fan-art of the demons, even Doom isn't safe.

[fast dew]

I haven't had fps drop unless im in sandbox mucking around railcannon

[fast dew]

No course not, but they have to make it

None of the female demons are visually. Female and i appreciate that

Only exclusion being like

[midnight ice]

more for me 👅

[fast dew]

The vagary from doom 3, which is explicitly meant to be like that

Womb n shit

[fast dew]

The robot fella, Samuel hayden does have hip handles. For. Whatever reason what is wrong with him

[glass sluice]

if i never see another horror game with pregnancy treated as a jump scare, it will be too soon.
I get it, but god is it over done and really freaking creepy.

[fast dew]

Its very overdone, but its a fair thing to have been overdone

[glass sluice]

FEAR was 100% the worst franchise for it. Good lord.

[fast dew]

Pregnancy is scary

EUGH.

EW. FEAR.

[glass sluice]

In case people don't know, don't say the specific thing here. Let's keep it buried in the past where it belongs.

[fast dew]

Yuppers