lore-discussion

[fast dew]

Literally so bizarre

[lean garden]

Like dont enslave us to your forgone agricultural conclusions!!!

[fast dew]

See i could understand it for agriculture specific unis but. What

[midnight ice]

where i am the non-college school years are divided by two semesters; the first semester starts July, the second is January

i guess that counts for "starting at the middle of the year"?

[fast dew]

... weird but

But like

Its similar enough here

Our first semester is January

And i believe the second is in like. July maybe?

[lean garden]

you dont know?

the reason there was a summer break is because of agriculture

and then the agri dropped and all thats left was culture

[fast dew]

Dawg I thought it was for like. Crisis

Crimis

Chrysler

[lean garden]

nah it was for farming LOL

[fast dew]

Makes sense

[lean garden]

and then thanks to a lovely thing called colonialism and then subsequently post-colonial, and then globalisation, the time period just sticks as such all around

[lean garden]

not necessarily a bad thing, its just tracing the path of influence

[fast dew]

Oh my God did i tell you guys I got a pomegranate tree now

[lean garden]

its weird but it aint broke so no need to fix

[fast dew]

I loved agriculture in highschool

[lean garden]

pom grenade

[fast dew]

Banging subject fr

[fast dew]

Oh its the British exploding again

[manic mason]

So I have been seeing the discussion on how Follie could have obtained access to RPG knowledge.

Been thinking about it a little.

Maybe Follie also was a frame related to Rell? That might mean the connection with Lyon and onwards with "all Harrows".

Lyon can dredge artifacts from the Void. Maybe something like that and Follie knows about the timeline...?

I might be throwing ideas a bit blindly, it just seems strange, why Chains of Harrow specifically if it isn't related to Rell then?

[silk atlas]

That and the fact cities without AC were HOT.

[strong viper]

Im expecting a cluster b theme but we will see

[woven coyote]

the easiest answer is just infestation and their cross temporal memory

[manic mason]

Wonder if Ballas watched Follie spawn such an OOPArt weapon drop in and go "that must be some cursed void contraption" and not study it at all

[woven coyote]

Probably went "back to the blueprint with you"

[long quiver]

eleanor being 2 minutes older than arthur is genuinely frying me for some reason

[lean garden]

lol I dont know why I didnt think of that

ofc the infestation would know what the rpg looks like LOL

who needs wally

[vestal vine]

A friend told me Warframe has great lore but a bad storytelling, is it true?

[gentle isle]

what do you think about it?

[fleet furnace]

honestly, i can see it, there is a lot of lore but youre going to have to go digging just about everywhere only to then have to piece the scraps you get together

[gentle isle]

i mean some people like that

just look at all the ppl who love diving into fromsoft games lore

those games are anything but straightforward in terms of worldbuilding

[midnight ice]

i do like that

[gentle isle]

whether it's bad or not is purely subjective

[fast dew]

It struggles a little. Especially for newer players, you will miss a lot of lore, but its more from like. Theres not months of time between updates to find this lore

[dark compass]

The immediate story is great, the way it tells "lore" it a bit scattershot

[drowsy saddle]

The mysterious case of salad V

[lean garden]

your friend might need to elaborate

they might have actual criticisms or they might fall into the bracket where its bad storytelling if its not spoonfed to them

[midnight ice]

like that feedback thread

[vestal vine]

Dunno

He likes any kind of narrative

Its something I'll discover myself

Im in Uranus rn, to be fair the only part I found interesting was the Deimos family quest

[drowsy saddle]

Second dream is where the plot starts to pick up

[midnight ice]

perfect time for the story to open up

[drowsy saddle]

Before then you're pretty just reliant on ordis' cephalon fragments

[vestal vine]

I literally just did the 1st Uranus mission

[lean garden]

theres a joke to be made here about liking any kind of [content]

[vestal vine]

Operator?

[dark compass]

I like any kinds of content, even the bad ones

[drowsy saddle]

Cake is cake

[vestal vine]

Thats a coockie

A giant one

🥶

[fast dew]

They're so cool

[sleek berry]

What makes the Sentient Natah (Lotus/Margulis) different from other Sentients?

During the Old Peace, it is explained that through prolonged absence of the Voidblooms, a Sentient would return to a state of mind that limits them to looking for orders to follow and a simple avenue for Sentients to find that purpose is through the Sentient Hivemind.

So I ask, why is Natah different?

[fast dew]

They're called Xenoflora, and its due to how they were created.

Natah, Erra, Hunhow and. Pragasha or however you spell it, were made in a separate way to someone like Adis or other fragments

[sleek berry]

So, like how some Grineer are made from different Genemolds?

Okay, that makes sense

[fast dew]

Natah and Erra were created by some form of reproduction, a uterus is involved on hunhow's side. The fragments we fight are splinters from Hunhow

Physical parts of his body he broke off, compared to. Birth

[strange plinth]

sorta
fragments are literal fragments of a larger sentient, connected to that 'hive'
mimics are likely fragments of natah, for example
the other reproduction is not detailed, but creates an entire new sentient (like Natah or Erra)

[fast dew]

Hunhow is a nice name.

[sleek berry]

Well Hunhow is a big boy, so I imagine he'd break off into Mini-Mes

[fast dew]

Hunhow is rather small compared to his wife

And. He's huge to us

[sleek berry]

That's terrifying to think about now.

[midnight ice]

we are the hunlings, feed us!

[fast dew]

Yeah. Remember, this is also a man made construct. Pragashshshshs was made to eat the sun.

[midnight ice]

now that i think of it, the Hun- prefix so far has two massive sentients under it (Hunhow and, technically, Hunhullus)
-lysts are small ground units
-ix are railjack/space units

[sleek berry]

I remember that quest... eating the sun... crazy

[midnight ice]

praghasa is the true big beautiful woman

[strange plinth]

praghasa, with some standard murexes for somewhat of a scale

[fast dew]

I made an Albrecht/wally one a bit ago actually

[fast dew]

How horrifying. She is so pretty though

[restive river]

You should have made the hearts in Wallbrecht’s eyes broken or just
gone

[fast dew]

I should go back into it and fix it up. Idk if you can see it but I actually forgot to turn the teeth layer back on for the 1999 wally-Albrecht 💀

[idle fog]

would the transference would work on some human being in the way that the op did to umbra

[midnight ice]

i dddddddddddont think so? the closest thing we have are the protoframes

[idle fog]

or can you talk to someone telepathically with it

[midnight ice]

ballas could, but that was when umbra is already half warframe

i guess not, no, not to regular people

[fast dew]

You have more chances of transferring into a tree.

Which

Has happened

[midnight ice]

sylvania moment

[idle fog]

||I wonder how it would feel like to be like Alad V and be infested||

[glass sluice]

I always saw the Umbra transferrance thing because of the Infested part of him, so it would always require it.
as for a tree, I got nothing, but it covers the rest of the times we've done it AFAIK.

maybe there was a little infested in the tree or something.

[restive river]

It’s possible you can use transference on anything with a mind, however intelligent it may be
Humans or any being of their level are more difficult maybe due to the fact there’s already a strong mind in that body

With Umbra (and possibly the Hex) he has a transference bolt which
Does something in regards to transference, we don’t have a lot of info on the bolts but we know Umbra’s is specifically special

Oh also we use transference on void-made Maws so the infestation is not a factor

[midnight ice]

ooh, yeah

and orowyrms

[restive river]

Yup!

[midnight ice]

which, oh, do they count as having a strong mind? theyre still whining the whole time we fight them?

[restive river]

Which is why I think it’s more about the capacity of the mind rather than anything specifically physical

[restive river]

They ain’t strong enough to shake us off

Probably cause the emotional breakdown

[midnight ice]

fair!

[restive river]

When Arthur boots us he’s in battle-mode
Ofc he’s gonna fight!

Only other thing that boots us is Umbra and he’s in lash out at everything mode cause trauma constantly replaying

[fast dew]

Maws.......

[drowsy saddle]

Jaws

[dark compass]

Mouths

[drowsy saddle]

Smash

[rotund trellis]

Ar gone

[tender oriole]

I just can't help but take into account just how much physical force Excalibur Prime can exert over his head if he's able to accomplish this feat.

[rigid brook]

That flip tho 🔥

[tender oriole]

Tenno are war freaks with the body of a toddler

[strong viper]

Every time I talk to him, i find him more and more irritating.

Last night i told him im changing history without him and he threw a hissy fit.

Right after i made him admit he loved nitohk despite everything xD

Satisfying convo

[sudden shard]

<@&778745217037238293> WAKE UPP

[rotund trellis]

So, guys

The Technocyte Virus from 1999 is just the first version of the Infestation or it is A version of the Infestation?

[fast dew]

Mhm.

[rotund trellis]

The Infestation lore is like:

• They created the Infestation, based on an existing virus (Technocyte), and launched it against the Sentients. It didn't work.
• Then they created a variation of that Infestation, which was the Helminth that they used it to create the Warframes.

Is that?

[rotund trellis]

Wdym

[fast dew]

Oh, they didn't create it

[fast dew]

Im agreeing with your statement lol

Infestation wasn't created by anyone we know

Shit was always there

[rotund trellis]

It was a question lol
Like, Technocyte from 1999 is the FIRST version of Infestation or it is just some version of Infestation?
But, you already answered me, so thank you.

[rotund trellis]

Makes sense

[fast dew]

Each strain has their own traits n stuff

Grey strain makes shit big, Helminth is super tame, Techrot likes computers ect

[rotund trellis]

So, Technocyte is a trait created by Albrecht?
People refer to him during the Hexa Quest as the "father" of it.

[fast dew]

Helminth is also bloodborne, over others that are airborne

[rotund trellis]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[fast dew]

No, thats the scaldra. Thats propaganda 😭

[rotund trellis]

Oh
😭🙏🏼

Dam

I FELL FOR IT

RAH

[fast dew]

Albrecht exclusively worked with the helminth, which does not infest others easily. It builds mass, yeah but its not something like techrot or the mire strain

[strange turtle]

First known

[rotund trellis]

Let me see if I understand.
Grey trait was what he used to create the Vessels (the giants from the Laboratories).
Helminth is for Warframes
Techno is the older version of what we know as the "Infestation" nowadays

[fast dew]

Also I have been made aware of Lettie claiming he made them "silent carriers" is. Only really for genetic diseases

[rotund trellis]

Got it

[strange turtle]

Considering it’s biomechanical nature and ability to not just interface with but spread through tech there was likely a progenitor strain that adapted or was modified to get to that point

[fast dew]

So either she used the wrong word or she uh. Fell into some form of antivax rabbit hole because thats what that term is for, apparently. Dogwhistle moment

Also she apparently has an animal rescue that. Kept rabid animals alive? Which is particularly strange considering that you'd need to do post mortem issue examination of the brain to diagnose rabies

[fast dew]

Im like. 99% she meant to use the word Asymptomatic, but alas

[dark compass]

The Antivax Lettie Theory

[rotund trellis]

That makes me think.....
When?
"Technocyte" could be a biological weapon, right? It doesn't seem to me that it was something natural, and if I'm not mistaken, all the Orokins were immune to natural diseases. So it has to be something that already existed and then was created, and mutated until it resulted in Techno and then Infestation.

[fast dew]

The absolutely were not immune to infestation

[strange turtle]

Where’d you get the disease thing from?

[rotund trellis]

No I know, I'm talking about the disease thing

[fast dew]

The Entrati family and Roach are examples

[rotund trellis]

I heard about it a long time ago. Idk if it is true

[dark compass]

I'm completely immune to the infestation because it doesn't want my personality in there

[rotund trellis]

I don't even have a smart reply to that

[strange turtle]

I’m immune to the Infestation because my individuality is simply too great for it’s unindividuality

I still get infested I just die of the rampant tumorous growths instead

[dark compass]

Where would your brain go?

[fast dew]

This sounds like smthn wally would say lmfao

[twin whale]

you don't belong so you become patient zero for a new strain

enjoy!

[strange turtle]

I would simply cure it

[lean garden]

what are you some kind of salad? five perhaps?

[strange turtle]

Whats his name managed it, can’t be too hard

[sharp breach]

https://x.com/highelven/status/2028895325000224945?s=61&t=ZIQdc9z3D6Y-KCvzQJ3qsQ
saw this post idk if I’ve had this conversation yet but what does she mean cuz I forget any hands being mentioned during the railjack missions

Liana ˚˖𓍢ִ໋🦢˚ (@highelven)

classic

X · Mar 3, 2026, 6:08 PM

[lean garden]

have you checked in on the reliquary drive at the back of the ship

[sharp breach]

That’s the blue device the cephalon for railjack moruns over right?

[lean garden]

yeap

idk if you missed it, but you should have had a cutscene where the contents of the device is revealed

[sharp breach]

I don’t remember seeing its contents. It’s just been blue to me

[lean garden]

oh in that case, a finger is inside

[sharp breach]

Whose finger?

[woven coyote]

The name "reliquary drive" isnt accidental

[woven coyote]

Man in the wall

[sharp breach]

What really?!?

[restive lantern]

Big fingy

[twin whale]

big lad yes

[lean garden]

mhmm, thats what aoi is referring to

[sharp breach]

Dang

[woven coyote]

To be precise a copy of his fingers

[lean garden]

important to note: that's not his actual finger

[twin whale]

also there's one on Zariman too
in one of the mission hubs

[lean garden]

^

[twin whale]

idk which one is the original

[twin whale]

agreed

[lean garden]

neither lol

otherwise wally wouldnt be searching for that shit

[twin whale]

no I meant more like, where the original is

[sharp breach]

JEEEZ when did this happen? Was it a glitch or did I have to go out of my way to see the inside?

[twin whale]

which one of the [all fingers ever, lorewise]

[lean garden]

just go to your finger and press x

[twin whale]

just had to be curious

[lean garden]

somewhere lolololol

[woven coyote]

@twin whale

We havent been told yet

[lean garden]

just not the zariman or the railjack

especially not the railjack since there were multiple railjacks

and they all saw use during the war

[twin whale]

my bet? vault on deimos, deep underground, next to a giant nose

[sharp breach]

How did Wally lose a finger?

[twin whale]

Albrecth took it

[lean garden]

imagine sending off your original finger with a ship that can be destroyed

[woven coyote]

Albrecht closed a door on his fingers

[woven coyote]

Not intentionally no

[lean garden]

have you ever shut a door on your finger and then worry that it would fall off

[twin whale]

say what you will about that guy, he's capable

[lean garden]

yea wally didnt have to worry about it falling off

[twin whale]

even if the worlds biggest ass

[lean garden]

because it fell off

[sharp breach]

Maybe pinky toe on edge but not finger

[twin whale]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-fishing-my-leg-screaming-gif-14479323277406999746

[woven coyote]

The event is described on that backroom in between necralisk and sanctum anatomica btw

[lean garden]

wally searches high and low, misses the one vessel picking its nose with an off colour finger

[twin whale]

😭

[twin whale]

the dictionary room?

[sharp breach]

That’s the void tongue thing right? I wouldn’t have expected that’s where the finger loss is explains I’ll have to check it out soon

[twin whale]

loved that place

[lean garden]

yea, the void tongue dictionary room

[lean garden]

its going to be nearer to the end of the entries

[twin whale]

wally and his stupid voice is my favorite thing in the entire game

[woven coyote]

Yeah albrecht narrates the tale of when he entered the void and the first encounter with the man in the wall

[twin whale]

it has been a lil confusing for me, i started playing earlier this year and got all the lore exposure from the main quests all in a week

was a hell of a week tho

[lean garden]

https://fxtwitter.com/PabloMakes/status/2028952375071838516

Pablo (@PabloMakes)

🎈

Quoting River Stryx (@River_Stryx)
︀
@PabloMakes Hello Pablo, longtime player, and I think Follie looks great. I have a question regarding Follie's second ability (Sketchbook), and that is if the items spawned will have their default art/textures? Or will they look more 'inky' to match the vibe?

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FxTwitter · Mar 3, 2026, 9:55 PM

well, no need to ask how follie knows what an rpg is

its all just inkmagination babey

[twin whale]

i mean

there are missile tubes in [current year] as well

[lean garden]

exactly

but before she was summoning scaldra rpgs

which dont exist in the modern time

[feral cape]

I kinda imagine it was more just an intent thing like wahg

Manifest a pistol and some otherworldly consciousness will fill in the blank about how exactly a gun works when you summon it

[twin whale]

is it still scaldra rpg but inky?

[lean garden]

I mean, most likely, but being inky is plausible deniability

[twin whale]

ye

[lean garden]

it could be any rpg

putting an explosive infront of a tube is not unheard of tech

[fast dew]

The grineer probably have some

[lean garden]

just ask the zarr

[twin whale]

I just realized the connection between the waaagh and the void manifestation thing

[fast dew]

Conceptual embodiment?

[twin whale]

yes that's the one

[feral cape]

Or Alternatively

[fast dew]

Yeah its pretty similar, but not so controlled

[lean garden]

praise the waaaaagh

[feral cape]

You're summoning intent and as long as the pistol doesn't get cracked open it'll work

[twin whale]

orkz just control it because it is needed to explain all the goofs

[feral cape]

But once it gets cracked open you realize its just a shell and it ceases function

The illusion breaks

[twin whale]

since it's a comedy piece and not exactly what warframe is using it for

[fast dew]

Purple orks with CE rules would be funny to imagine

[twin whale]

are they they sneakers?

[silk atlas]

CE would probably just make them disappear if they screwed it hard enough

Like, gone from reality disappear

[feral cape]

As far as im actually aware waghh doesn't actually work like that

[fast dew]

Honestly

[silk atlas]

waaaaagh isn't just "oh we can do whatever"

[twin whale]

permanent operator void crouch but also they can shoot

[feral cape]

And like massive effects require mass orks and leadership

[fast dew]

Mhm

[feral cape]

And alot of coordination

[fast dew]

While CE is usually on a individual basis

[feral cape]

The orks cant just waghhh a guy out of reality on a whim

[fast dew]

Duviri, skittergirl, holdfasts, incarnons, wally

[twin whale]

it is as long as they believe it, but it's not intentional like that... which is why it also works when some random guardsman says "pew pew pew", but also that's heresy

[feral cape]

That story isnt real

[twin whale]

none of the stories are real

they're stories

[feral cape]

I ment canon

[fast dew]

We do gotta remember certain tales can just be tales in the universe of that media

[feral cape]

Its not even a tall tale its just not actual Canon that isnt a story that exists in 40k

[fast dew]

Ie if the bluva story is real or if its just grandmother being grandmother

Oh

Lmao

[twin whale]

IDK what you are talking about, I just made something up right now

[twin whale]

they're senile and a lil demented, who knows what her mind cooks up

[fast dew]

She's actually rather aware

[silk atlas]

The Dagath story was real, is the thing

[fast dew]

If not the most aware

[silk atlas]

She's far from senile.

[twin whale]

senile just means old btw

[fast dew]

She is very scary because of it

[silk atlas]

She just loves messing with people.

[twin whale]

they are HELLA old

[fast dew]

Shes not that old either i don't think? Due for another continuity but

We aren't particularly sure of orokin lifespans

Their servants can live for yoinks

[silk atlas]

About as old as Ballas and every other person that survived the fall.

Ballas would be as senile

[fast dew]

Mm, but ballas went into cryo, didnt he?

Loid the senile gay uncle

[silk atlas]

Don't believe anything was mentioned of the sort

[twin whale]

I knew he was a chill guy...

[fast dew]

Shit so he might just have lasted that long

[feral cape]

We have literally no clue how anyone survived this long

[fast dew]

Probably. Doing drugs or some shit

[silk atlas]

And it's not like he's the only one anyway

[fast dew]

Teshin hello teshin

We do gotta remember the entrati are brainwormed, but at the same time. They usually remember things correctly

Except for Father and when he met mother, for some reason

[twin whale]

my understanding from just playing the game was that they have clouded minds partially by being asleep all the time

because of what i assume is a hivemind dream, individuality becomes less important

[silk atlas]

The Infested might have done more of the damage

[twin whale]

other infested things still keep their memory to SOME degree

[fast dew]

Nah, the hivemind just messes with memories in general, but there's been extreme physical damages. Probably why they're so sleepy lol

Ehhh? We dont really. Talk to other fully infested

[silk atlas]

Yeah the "some" here is just their familial roles

[twin whale]

drifter's schtick about warframe stances

not like, your average charger

[fast dew]

Yeah, which. Have no memory other than slight personality traits

They have to be forcibly reminded of things [like umbra] to hold memories

[twin whale]

it's non-zero, but yeah I am stretchng it

[fast dew]

Xata perhaps

......

[twin whale]

xata is decay right

[fast dew]

Xata is truth

[twin whale]

woops

[fast dew]

Netra is decay

[twin whale]

I forgor

[fast dew]

Nah its an easy muck up

Voidtongue is just. Complex in general

[twin whale]

ME... MISCALCULATED

[fast dew]

Limbo core

[tall echo]

you're miscalculated?

[twin whale]

it's a lich quote

[fast dew]

Oh. I don't do liches bcs I hate that gameloop lmao

[twin whale]

I do not for one second think that you should take the individual words of voidtongue as literal, there are such few words with so much power that they have to hold more information that the sum of their parts

[tall echo]

ohhhhh yea

[fast dew]

Oh they do

[tall echo]

I forgot that lich quote

[twin whale]

it's the "funny" male lich voiceline when you hit him with the third word

iirc

[fast dew]

They have literal translations that do work, it is a language the murmur use

[tall echo]

it's one specific personality

[twin whale]

yes the funny personality

idk the internal name of it

[fast dew]

Personal favourite is the translation to Yara Jeliira-
-# I will not shut up about this

[twin whale]

by all means

[fast dew]

3UFL4HW noises

This comes from the bandcamp, so an official source

Im not okay

[twin whale]

fill my heart fiercly can be interpreted as "get angry pls"

which is the opposite of what we are doing to hold wally back

[fast dew]

This song plays during the part in whispers where the vessels are holding each other i assure you its not that

[twin whale]

ya

the gentle touch thing is done in defiance

[tall echo]

eh, hypocrisy is kinda the standard with wally

[fast dew]

No clue how operator had. Any of those memories of that

Guess Loid told them offscreen 🫵 😭

NO. WRONG EMOTE

[twin whale]

LOL

[fast dew]

MUCK. NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IM BEING AN ASS

[twin whale]

do they share the same mind

at any point

past the 10-0 event

[tall echo]

"it's unnatural!"
said about combo elements by the though-creation possessing the general of an army that uses combo elements

[tall echo]

you could just correct it

[fast dew]

Drifter? Mm. Not exactly

[twin whale]

like I could see how the mirror puzzle thing hints to that but it's 100% speculation on my part

[fast dew]

They're two distinct personalities, they just hold the same slot of spacetime

[twin whale]

I wonder if there's ever contamination

with transference and such

like between tenno, not from the original like the dax fella

[twin whale]

emoji kitchen provides

[fast dew]

Mm, explain what you mean?

[strong viper]

My guess? Psychic bleed from tenno to tenno

Tenno on tenno action

[fast dew]

Somatic... interference?

[twin whale]

let's say Tenno A and Tenno B transfer into the same frame in sequence, the frame is doing something that would trigger Tenno A's trauma so they bail quickly, would Tenno B possibly feel the remnants of that trauma response?

[fast dew]

Like when theres too much of a certain frequency in a single spot and it messes with cameras n shit, but like. Tenno?

[strong viper]

"That was Patricia"

[twin whale]

classic patricia

[fast dew]

Mm, probably? That is what transference is used for, feeling another's feelings. Im not sure how easily one could transfer into the same frame though

[strong viper]

Kind of a nonstarter as we print our own copies tho

[glacial bough]

No, why would the frame retain other experience like that

[strong viper]

Thought the point of blueprints was because once Transferred its a lock

[fast dew]

I dont think they meant the frame itself, moreso the proximity to another tenno in that frame

[strong viper]

So you need to grow a whole ass new frame to share

Ahhh

Like two tenno on one liset

Hm, good question

[twin whale]

sort of yeah, like they kept the seat warm

[fast dew]

Im. Just unsure if transference works with multiple tenno on one vessel

[strong viper]

Yeah id wager it dont

[fast dew]

Can. Can we do that in duviri?

[glacial bough]

Still no, Transference isn't a psychic field

[strong viper]

Oooo sick lagniappe there good point

[fast dew]

Ehh? It does allow for empathetic cross over, doesnt it? Isnt that why transference works?

We can feel others trauma and help them

[glacial bough]

Between user and frame. There wouldn't/shouldn't be anything connecting previous users

[fast dew]

I don't see why something like trauma lingering wouldn't be impossible

[fast dew]

I would argue that depending on the warframe, they absolutely can have lingering connections

The protoframes experience it actually

[strong viper]

I wouldnt say a psychic field lol more like a psychic emp pulse that has a two way empathy tether

[fast dew]

Marie talks about feeling the original wisp as if she was physically there

[strong viper]

(Empathy is psychic fullstop)

[glacial bough]

The only case it could happen as known if a previous user dies locked in a frame like Rell

[strong viper]

(Sympathy =/= Empathy)

[glacial bough]

and stll required extra circumstance

[twin whale]

I was about to say that if you recorded someone's brainwaves and then stimulated another person's brain waves they'd feel similar things... literal electromagnetic pulses

[fast dew]

Mhm

[strong viper]

Literally just hop out your umbra lmao

[twin whale]

lol

[fast dew]

Like it would need to be super quick and it wouldnt be long lasting

But our warframes do feel the same thing we do

[strong viper]

And likewise we learn their dances

Their emojis and fortnite emotes

[twin whale]

like my original question was regarding less of a star wars force "I can sense there has been great sadness here" and more like "woah, this sucks, so anyway I started blasting"

[fast dew]

And I can imagine that fight/flight/freeze does extend to that

[twin whale]

yeah

[twin whale]

I hate this forever

[fast dew]

I love it honestly

More whimsy I love whimsy

[twin whale]

I hate it because it is right

[glacial bough]

As given, unlikely

[fast dew]

I am perhaps a whimsical fella

[strong viper]

Makes more sense when you hone muscle memory in a dojo 😉

[fast dew]

Everyone look at the duviri kavat

Love on the duviri kavat

[twin whale]

funny thing is muscle memory sort of becomes the path of least resistance when you've let your body adapt to specific movements

[midnight ice]

images that make you say hell yeah

[strong viper]

Whimsy Boy 9001

[twin whale]

his name is Alberto

[fast dew]

Euleria named it after her dad/j

[midnight ice]

i fw Alberto

[strong viper]

https://tenor.com/view/sneed-gif-18600566

[fast dew]

The duviri kubrow is cool but I like the kavat more

[twin whale]

Albrecht is a mix between Jotaro Kujo and Nostalgia Critic

[fast dew]

I have heard that before

Weirdly enough

[twin whale]

it's kind of the most obvious joke to make

which is why my smooth brain came up with it

[fast dew]

Its a very specific one

But its funny so it passes

Albrecht and his design is. Interesting to me

I hope they change it this year, if we do see him

[twin whale]

idk what he'd do in Tauland

but then again nobody knows what that guy is doing

[fast dew]

We have a rough guess, but in regards to tau, no clue

[twin whale]

with time travel it is impossible to draw conclusions

but you can guess how someone would go about reaching a goal

[restive river]

I mean we can only follow if the infestation is where he is if it’s time travel related

[twin whale]

has it not reached tau? did nobody attack tau during the war?

[fast dew]

And i don't think he's gonna pull the infestation to a possibly uninfested place

[twin whale]

I'm gonna have to farm Nidus and mod my charger... >:3c

[silk atlas]

You played an attack on one of its moons lol.

[midnight ice]

we have GOT to kennel all the nidus players and never let them go to tau

[twin whale]

oh, related... how does Caliban handle the void?

[twin whale]

you don't know that, but yes I did!

[fast dew]

Feeding them to helminth before we embark

[twin whale]

also don't bring the helminth

[fast dew]

Helminth should be fine tbh

[twin whale]

put a mask on him

[midnight ice]

gets the flu

[fast dew]

Its more of a bloodborne spreader than something airborne like the others

[midnight ice]

caliban gets as sick as a dog in tau

[twin whale]

that rules

[woven coyote]

Likely something related to tauron academy

I say this thinking of the test scene where we try and help adis cheat

There was some sort of ongoing theory on linking sentient and tenno abilities

[blissful rampart]

Was reading railjack lore and got the question of how many sigma series railjacks did house sigma make?

All I read is that "he made multiple"

[twin whale]

somewhere between one and lots

[silk atlas]

And that's all we know

[blissful rampart]

Dam

[silk atlas]

They don't give numbers for things that aren't relevant or could cause issues for future storywriting

[blissful rampart]

That's fair

[fast dew]

We honestly don't know a lot about old war railjacks and their pilots tbh

[silk atlas]

"It's ready when it's ready" couldn't be any more poignant lol

[twin whale]

so uh... am I CHARGING MY RAILJACK WITH A GIANT SPACE CABLE? wtf is this

feeding tube???

leash???

is this how I travel when I don't use the orbiter?

is this hovering somewhere far above drifter's camp?

[midnight ice]

leash
why do you think default rj looks like a dog

[spice wedge]

Can you show us with an arrow where do you mean a cable between railjack and orbiter ship.

[ashen pulsar]

look at the image…

it’s not hiding

[twin whale]

no but a star

[spice wedge]

And how does it looks outside.

[twin whale]

hold on let me

[spice wedge]

Hm navigation is active with railjack

[twin whale]

go into space????????

[spice wedge]

Behind an arsenal

As teleport

[twin whale]

can't rn

[spice wedge]

well therefore we can't seem to tell if it's cable or the something else.

[twin whale]

it is obviously a cable

it even has braiding

[midnight ice]

its obviously a cable or umbilical adjacent

likely as a tether or refuel

[midnight ice]

honestly where is it when we're in the Backroom

probably handwaved in the same way

[twin whale]

yea

[twin whale]

clearer pic, can't see it from the railjack pov, can't leave railjack in orbit

it is probably how you board the railjack but also I have the upgraded omni so I could just teleport

[spice wedge]

😃 oh now, we know how it works.

[twin whale]

it's probably just to the door in the floor behind the cockpit

[spice wedge]

I wonder how does railjack works, when we enter it, if there isn't orbiter around us.

Do they have some design of how it worked in the beginning of the making.

The ships

[twin whale]

it's kinda weird too because I'd just like

stick them together belly to belly

[spice wedge]

i need to find that information im curious.

[twin whale]

but I guess with artifical gravity and both doors in the floor

it would be spooky to get flipped around

[spice wedge]

well it's how they say,if it works don't change it.

[spice wedge]

Maybe as a tube involved, how much entrances it has on railjacks

[twin whale]

"if it is stupid and it works, it's not stupid" :')

[spice wedge]

well it's a system made anyways.

[restive river]

The tube is probably a tether
But I can see it being how we board

[twin whale]

it attaches right where the hatch in the railjack would be, in the "room" behind the cockpit

also in searching for concept art of this, I came to realize how many people misunderstand the scale of the orbiter and lander

[spice wedge]

I guess how the sentients and corpus works, they are ok.
Grineer one on other hand is like a room full of glasses walls or mirrors.

[twin whale]

grineer doesn't work at all

dysfunctional cannibal clones

[spice wedge]

True

on railjack missions. There are areas where we needed to finish that white icon area,where is bonus items drops,which involves a question, what that big object was used for and what was it.

But I gotta admit I like those areas to be honest, it just gives different environment.

And feelings being around it.

[swift sentinel]

Usually it's a defunct Orokin Tower that the Corpus/Grineer are looting, and we swoop in and steal their stuff.

[spice wedge]

i wonder how much orokin tower made and how huge was it in orokin system. Before

[twin whale]

we only know of our solar system + tau, don't we?

or am I mistaken

[smoky gulch]

Well, Orokin did despoil solar system to the point they just... Decided they would rather plunder another, rather than strip this one further

So their shiny towers might have been many

[lean garden]

just those two

[twin whale]

I like the realism, given how few planets are actually inhabitable

terraforming mars is probably easier than terraforming the next best planet in a far away system

but not as easily inhabited an already inhabitable planet far away

[tall echo]

that's the connector toob between rj and orbiter

[twin whale]

are you calling me a toobee? Or not toobee? that is the question.

[strong viper]

Easier and less worthwhile, considering terraforming is the answer to surviving the local sun

[lean garden]

tau's sun needs surviving?

[twin whale]

technically yes, but it also means "making the planet habitable for us considering the system"

[strong viper]

No, ours does. So we go to Tau to do that....

[twin whale]

I have an idea

[lean garden]

our sun isnt much of a problem tho

[twin whale]

what if we just eat the sun

[strong viper]

How far in the future are we?

[lean garden]

not far enough thats for sure

[strong viper]

Our sun only gets a few more hundred million from now

[twin whale]

some words speak of millennia

idk if that was to be taken literally

[strong viper]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-ballas-bike-gif-14564946

[lean garden]

yea, so the orokin era should have been still good on time

[strong viper]

(Ballas)

[strong viper]

You mean... the prior era?

[midnight ice]

praghasa:

[lean garden]

even as vague as the timeline is, nothing indicates that we're anywhere close to the end of the suns lifespan

[strong viper]

Right. Thats why i cant even see it on my chart.

[midnight ice]

sun isnt any more orange than i remember

[lean garden]

yea the era where going to tau was conceived as The Plan™

[strong viper]

Which was more due to resource mining

Traditionally in sci fi terraforming is to escape this system

[lean garden]

sure

[strong viper]

So i do concede there

Im just asking moreso than saying ig

[lean garden]

either way orokin era or now, not close enough for the death of the sun to be the problem

[strong viper]

Idk the tech seems so advanced and drifter and Op not even knowong what year it is

(Per KIM) just doesnt make me feel good about it

[lean garden]

Thats because some blue buggers destroyed the records

[strong viper]

Exactly. So DO we have time?

Big ol 6 7

[lean garden]

so its not a case of "the human experiment have gone on so long they forgot"

[strong viper]

Right, right

[lean garden]

its just a case of record keeping gone wrong

[strong viper]

But we still because of that can't say not enough time has passed either

[lean garden]

eeh, id you take what albrecht says about 10k years to be in the ballpark of true, we can still say not enough time has passed

[strong viper]

Well if he has a rough estimate maybe that is promising. Cant help but look at NW as foreshadowing sometimes

[midnight ice]

the sun is not showing any signs of turning into a red giant

[strong viper]

Thats also fair but we havent really had the quest to address it since tnw

[lean garden]

Something forcibly trying to eat the sun shouldnt be considered foreshadowing for the natural death of the sun I do think

[midnight ice]

or even any signs close to experiencing considerable aging in the context of a star's lifespan

[strong viper]

Not perse natural so much as any

Like, boom we are already talking perita now

Whats the rush? Orokin are dead

[midnight ice]

because the story is advancing?

[strong viper]

Yeah, and?

Where to?

It aint HERE

[twin whale]

as far as I understand it, given nothing drastic happens except for the interaction between the sun and the earth, life as we know it becomes unviable in ca 50 million years and the sun itself still has 1.5 billion years left

at some point tho, the size of the sun will be 2AU which is bad because an Astronomical Unit is the distance between us and the sun... very crispy

[midnight ice]

and we're going to Tau to find [whatever lotus said at the end of TOP that i dont remember exactly]?

[twin whale]

either way, orokin don't live for millions of years

[strong viper]

And why dont we remember it?!?!?!?! All i remember is "itll be diffy next time you digs"

[twin whale]

at least there hasn't been enough time to test that, but given the mortality rates and in-fighting I'm pretty sure it's not possible :p

[midnight ice]

because our memory of it was erased?

either that or deeply repressed hence dark refractory?

[lean garden]

well, they certainly will try

[strong viper]

No you said you dont remember exactly

Not your tenno lol

[lean garden]

which is why albrecht said "we die with the sun"

[strong viper]

I too forgot the blurb

[glass sluice]

you just know he stole that from a song.

[strong viper]

Thats pretty solid counterevidence then, thematically

[restive river]

In theory they could have
In practice, we happened

[twin whale]

I think Ballas tried real hard and look how that ended... Killed by a 14 year old in a diseased onesie

[strong viper]

To be fair she had main character hairstyle

[lean garden]

*Killed by the 14 year old's adoptive mother

[strong viper]

**who he wouldnt stop abusing

[restive river]

Orokin moment

[twin whale]

I hate this scene btw

[glass sluice]

its the purple clashing with the orange, right? Bothers me too.

[twin whale]

oh you

like 0.1 sec before I love it, Big Wally is so cool... this particular thing tho

IDK whether to trust her or not

[lean garden]

wait so you hate the scene because you dont know to trust the lotus? Or that a side thought to your dislike of the scene

[glass sluice]

That is kinda Lotus' whole deal though. There's always been that "do we?" kinda vibe from her.
Which is why I like her as a character so much, she's complicated.

[twin whale]

because it didn't resolve properly

[lean garden]

wdym by that

[twin whale]

and she's sus in the pager scene before '99 as well

[fast dew]

I. Dont think saying we die with the sun is stolen from a song 😭 thats a pretty broad statement

[restive river]

What didnt get resolved properly?

[fast dew]

I dont. Fully trust the lotus, but only because I'm unsure the motives the other two would have

[twin whale]

her mysterious rebuking of and dealings with wally

it is not yet resolved

[lean garden]

ah we're in the lotus deal territory LOL

[feral cape]

I mean id de wants it to be they could very easily explain than praghasas tomfoolery has Kickstarted the death of the sun

[restive river]

What supposed deal did she make again

[twin whale]

like I am not making a claim

[fast dew]

Its dealings, not deal 😭

[restive river]

Cause it wasn’t the moon

[twin whale]

I am saying it's not resolved yet

[lean garden]

good thing we have a crap ton of scifi media that involve rejuvenating a star

[twin whale]

the picture is taken from a thread that was "LOOOK SHE IS SMILING JUST LIKE WALLY"

but it's not the same smile and that part i think is just silly

[restive river]

What dealings exactly tho

[twin whale]

????

that's exactly the point...

[lean garden]

Minorly confused, so your issue is that this scene opened up the opportunity for conspiracy theorists come up with the lotus making deals with wally?

[twin whale]

it's unresolved, we are being kept in the dark, and I don't like where it is going

[restive river]

What is unresolved though
What dealings with Wally are you referring to

[twin whale]

my god

WE DO NOT KNOW IF THERE IS ONE OR NOT, IT IS UNRESOLVED

I'm not gonna type all of that again

and if you ask again I am just gonna assume you're being a jerk for no reason

[restive river]

Why would she make a deal with Wally

[lean garden]

^

[restive river]

I’m not I genuinely don’t know what you’re referring to 😭

[twin whale]

we did not get an answer

it's a cliffhanger that isn't resolved

[restive river]

The cliffhanger is she maybe made a deal

[twin whale]

yes

[lean garden]

Hm, not sure if I can share in that sentiment

[restive river]

Yeah I doubt she made a deal

[lean garden]

Im quite staunchly in the doubt she made a deal camp

she may be affected by wally as shown in Lotus eaters, but you need not make a deal to be affected

[restive river]

I don’t believe anything really suggests it and I doubt she would have

[lean garden]

as shown by all the adults in the Zariman as well as the red veil members

[twin whale]

"making a deal" with wally is shown to be incredibly one-sided

i don't mean she's in cahoots

[lean garden]

the real "cliffhanger" is what wally intends to do next with the lotus, since we've had 2 quests after TNW that indicates wally wants to do something to the lotus

[twin whale]

I mean there was something that made him leave and I doubt it was the sentient beating the void

[fast dew]

If she ever did make a deal, it would've been from wally wearing her down, not her wanting it naturally perse

[restive river]

From what we’ve seen it’s one sided in whomever’s making a deal with him
We got the tenno saved
Baro got to be all of the baros

[twin whale]

yea

[lean garden]

my position is that he fronted, stunted, emoted, and ran (ted)

its like uuuuh

[restive river]

He kinda got what he wanted and dipped

[lean garden]

have you ever played Monster Hunter Worlds

[restive river]

Which was more influence thanks to Ballas making the portal

[fast dew]

Whatever voidtongue he says at the end of the new war. That's what he ran[ted]

[restive river]

Lotus was just making an attempt to protect us

[twin whale]

wally:
lotus: 🙂

[fast dew]

Deals seem to be on shaking hand basis

[restive river]

Wally was also speaking to us

[fast dew]

Bill cipher style

[restive river]

Or he was mentioning us but iirc he says it again in Whispers so I don’t think he was talking to Lotus

[twin whale]

wally is at least twice the force bill cypher is cuz he is a square not a triangle

[fast dew]

[lean garden]

but triangles are the most versatile and strongest minimum point shape

[fast dew]

Unless its made of other triangles

[twin whale]

squares are 2 triangles

[fast dew]

Buildings are strong and are usually made from smaller triangles

[twin whale]

and the hexagon is the bestagon

[restive river]

Wally is at least 2 Bills

[fast dew]

He is two dolla

[twin whale]

gonna ask the modeler how many polygons he's made of

[restive river]

Nah
Two holla

[fast dew]

Hollars....

[restive river]

Depends which form you mean, he doesn’t seem tied to one

Even in that scene he’s literally two bodies

[lean garden]

the big square one duh

[twin whale]

wall form

[restive river]

[lean garden]

who cares about humans its all about shapes babey

it all goes in the square hole

[fast dew]

Wally should like

Be made into a notebook

[restive river]

https://tenor.com/view/qa-developer-software-development-test-gif-27432169

[fast dew]

Not like the grimoire

[twin whale]

the person form is only for one person so I think it's more a mental projection

[restive river]

Grimoire merch edition

[fast dew]

I..magically read that as OA

Orokin archives..........

[restive river]

He can communicate through the pieces of himself and we always have one with us sooo
Yeah checks out

[fast dew]

Did we not have one actually?

[lean garden]

eeeh, can't be the duviri folk have seen each others cloneforms

[restive river]

We testin the lore

[restive river]

We do and it’s uh. Interesting

[twin whale]

they are of the void tho

[restive river]

Idr who but someone has it in OA

[fast dew]

Because it needs to be tested, Because what the hell DE im not over what happened to Nihil

[lean garden]

also doesnt loid react to our clone?

[fast dew]

Mm. I dont think he does?

[twin whale]

he was turned into radio merch

[restive river]

He screams at him

[fast dew]

Oh shit word

[restive river]

I’m not over the RPG til we know how she can make one

[lean garden]

yea! Loid reacts to our clone

[twin whale]

can you still play the missions or are the beacons just for a fight?

[lean garden]

The Man in the Wall: (laughs) "Look at these things. Lying around. ABANDONED. Like you, Loid."

Loid (Original): "You are his demon! Not mine! I WON'T listen!"

[fast dew]

Nah, KIM writers put him as an executor and it was incorrect n got smited and demoted

[restive river]

He reacts to them in Wally’s domain though

Idk if he could see him but he could def hear him

[fast dew]

Lying around

Loid lies down confirmed

[restive river]

He’s been in a glass jar for years lmao

[fast dew]

Only like. 4 atp of the kimchat 😭

[lean garden]

which would at the very least indicate that its no mental projection

because 2 goobers heard him at the same time

[twin whale]

drifter is not necessarily a reliable narrator... also why is it not correct that he's an executor?

[lean garden]

because theres only 7 of them buggers and nihil aint one of them

[fast dew]

Youd think theyd be right on the literal leaders of the empire but. Yeah like bau said

[restive river]

It def is a projection to some extent since him showing up to us isn’t his physical form

Again he can communicate through any piece of himself

[twin whale]

I did not know the seven had that title

👍

[fast dew]

Its like not knowing at least like. 2 members of the royal family are

[lean garden]

separately, theyve stated in the last tennocon that Drifter isnt intended to be an unreliable narrator for the most partt

[twin whale]

easy, the chosen one and the black sheep... classic fantasy trope

[fast dew]

Like this may be the British in me but I can name at least 4 and their roles

[daring harness]

It's implied a lot of the time that his physical forms are Wally's attempts to appear human despite not being so, hence the murmur being all bits and pieces.

I do have to point out, I don't think it's a 1-person projection, case in point him taking over Rusalka in front of the Hex

[fast dew]

Nihil. The glassmaker

[twin whale]

there's the kiddo projection that I think wally controls who sees, but I think that's separate from the possession

[restive river]

I’m talking about when he shows up as us or other people, those aren’t his attempts to be more human that’s just him copying us
Also he was Neci throughout that entire quest, he was possessing her

[twin whale]

like I don't think he can necessarily talk to neci while talking through neci

[glass sluice]

Not even starting this today.

[restive river]

He hollowed her out so

[twin whale]

neci singlehanedly made smoking hot again

[fast dew]

Talk to what? She aint there

[twin whale]

wally will NOT take that away

[humble sierra]

He was called an executor in a chat, but they removed that. Right before Old Peace we were also given the names of the remaining Executors, Nihil wasn't among them

[restive river]

In the War Within he talks to us through us
After Chains he just appears to us but he can’t actually be there due to his limitations
In Whispers he talks to Loid while in Wally’s void domain

[daring harness]

Alledgedly following her mother's footsteps pop off Velimir

[twin whale]

I have 100% read that line, but it might not have been in game

[fast dew]

It was in game, they nuked the chat 💔

[twin whale]

I started playing in january

[fast dew]

It was an Amir chat

[humble sierra]

It was a KIM that they updated, I think with Amir

[fast dew]

Yeah that would've been after the change

It was one of the first hotfixes iirc

[twin whale]

kind of hard to remember what exactly was in-game and just on some screenshot

[fast dew]

We randomly couldn't access the histories one day and. The next someone found it to be gone

[twin whale]

because I've taken in a lot of information about all of this crap in the last couple months

[fast dew]

Old versions of the kimulacrum site might have it

[restive lantern]

I rlly wish they had in-game wiki of sorts to make it easier

[twin whale]

I kind of do, but also kind of don't

[restive river]

We have the Operator Report which summarizes the story up until Whispers

It’s not perfect ofc

[humble sierra]

Tbh having a dedicated Wiki instead of using Fandom is huge

[twin whale]

I've had this debate a trillion times regarding path of exile, it is just not worth the dev time when there are conservation projects on player-ran but officially linked wikis

[glass sluice]

We already have 2 warframe wikis, a 3rd just feels excessive at this point.

[fast dew]

Best we got is the orokin archives, but thats not exactly a wiki

[twin whale]

and an "official source" making an error, or spoiling details, is a much bigger issue than simply having a compilation of stuff people know

[fast dew]

Generally no wiki should be treated as an official source without a legitimate, alternative source

The orokin archives works because its ran by one person and its mainly just transcripts

[twin whale]

[says who?]

[fast dew]

Its a general rule, especially in lore based chats. You will not be taken seriously if you just say the wiki said it

[twin whale]

that is a wiki formatting tag for unverified information btw

just a source joke

[restive lantern]

That's fair! My favorite game ever is Dragon Age origins and it has like in depth codex that I always found it really fun to read through lore for hours. I think even just perhaps a slightly more thorough codex system would be nice at least.

[fast dew]

Oh..lmao sorry I use [] too much to tell

[lean garden]

typically the wiki is extremely accurate for gameplay, since the raw data is there for the taking from DE.

But there have been a painful few times where a few of us had to edit the wiki because whoever wrote the lore blurb got something reaaaally wrong

[twin whale]

._.

[lean garden]

like the one time someone wrote that hunhow was still dead and was speaking from the grave

[glass sluice]

side note: it took me way too long to realise that Thedas is shorthand for "THEDragonAgeSetting.

[lean garden]

that was a doozy

[twin whale]

every now and then I come across INSANE threads or chatters where someone is like schizo-posting about stuff

[restive lantern]

I DID NOT KNOW THAT. HOW DID I NOT KNOW THAT?

[twin whale]

a while back there was a guy explaning how everything was actually in the bible

[daring harness]

From the Great & Terrible to the Dead & Terrible

[glass sluice]

There was some anniversary stream where they were talking about DA;4 and a dev brought it up like it was nothing.
my head was like 🤯

[lean garden]

one of my favourites is whoever keeps writing really poetic intro paragraphs for warframes, which is cute and all, but completely fan made

its well done, its cool, but it grinds my gears when powerscalers use those blurbs as proof of warframe powers

[twin whale]

some of them are quoted from the prime release video

[glass sluice]

Frankly: who gives a toss about power scaling in WF.
You know what's stronger? Modding them.

[lean garden]

those are fine, let me show you an example of what I mean

[fast dew]

A lot of people its. Hard

[twin whale]

ok

[fast dew]

If i see one more doomguy vs warframe i will crash out

[twin whale]

I love the fact that mods are real

[lean garden]

Radiant starfire light our worlds ablaze. Igneous as the burning sun, Ember's fiery rage engulfs her foes and scatters their cinders in the solar wind. Empress of elemental flame, scorch the land with her wildfires. Control her fury or fuel the heat to unleash destructive incineration, leaving charred corpses and ashes adrift in her scarlet sea. Ember's flame first sparked in Vanilla and reignited in Update 26.0 (2019-10-31): The Old Blood.

This is from Ember's page. It is 100000% fan made

[fast dew]

Because its always the doom fans spouting that shit and I hate feeding into it

[twin whale]

yea but he has BFG9000

[glass sluice]

Low self-esteem Ordis whenever you exit your mod menu always gets me. Dude needs a glass case hug.

[fast dew]

Its not even that, its a whole lore thing

[glass sluice]

Every time someone brings up Doomguy, I replace it in my head with the 2005 movie.

[twin whale]

it's so funny when they are both the most powerful force of destruction in their respective universe... both doom guy and war frame would be stronger if their universes demanded it

[twin whale]

giiirl I still get flashbacks of the FPS POV scene

it is so bad

[restive lantern]

Lmfao it kills me when he's like "do you remember the old war? I don't. 😐"

[twin whale]

I searched the whole thingy in quotes, I find a site that isn't the wiki... it has this picture which clearly doesn't have that text on it...

and then the poetry junk written on the page...

the site is a service where you can lend your account out so they can buy it for you for platinum, in case you live in russia and can't do it yourself

like literally the only pages that have it have stolen it from the wiki

[fast dew]

Its one of those. You cant kill him unless you are him deals

[lean garden]

mhmm, thats because the source of that entire blurb is the wiki

[twin whale]

ye

[restive lantern]

LMFAO that's wild

[lean garden]

which is to say, the blurb isn't a bad thing, its not trying to pretend its lore

its like a WWE announcer calling in the next fighter

[twin whale]

it reminds me of those t-shirt bots that find images to steal and then auto-generate t-shirt sales

[lean garden]

but uh, humans have demonstrated time and time again the inability to critically read and so we get powerscalers

[lean garden]

oh right! remember the disney strat lol

[twin whale]

I remember someone telling me that snoop dogg from cod zombies can create black holes so he's stronger than superman

[lean garden]

snoop is in cod?

[twin whale]

yuh

fo shizzle

😭

in 7 of them

[lean garden]

SEVEN???

[restive lantern]

Wtf is going on with CoD 😭

[twin whale]

"In Modern Warfare II and Call of Duty: Warzone 2.0, Snoop Dogg was released during Season Five on August 7th, 2023 as part of the "Tracer Pack: Snoop Dogg, Return Of The Shizzle"."

I'm going to die

[restive lantern]

I could write an essay about the implications of this and what it says about where we are at, that is absolutely wild

[twin whale]

I have ideas in my head that have implications that make me cringe

[restive river]

Heads up, a service like that is against TOS

[fast dew]

[twin whale]

Of course it is. It's also a horrible deal

[fast dew]

Every day I am reminded about how lucky we are to have smthn like the orokin archives

[twin whale]

Dataslop is way better than fanonslop

Unless it's regarding Hatsune Miku's creation of Minecraft

[fast dew]

I like the archives cus theyre mainly transcripts. As literal as you could possibly get. Plus their discord server is cool

[twin whale]

i like transcripts with word search for lore, you can actually do research like a smart person!!

[fast dew]

I just use find tool for finding specific things tbh 😭

[twin whale]

Seems clunky if you can't load everything all at once but whatever works

[heady quest]

I wanted to make a full obsidian library of the lore

[glass sluice]

Might be a bit uncomfortable to sit in.

[midnight ice]

beware of cuts!

[glass sluice]

And then you have to fend off the cast of GoT going to steal it all.

[fast dew]

Mm. Wonder if that'll cause any weird frequency shit

[lean garden]

man good luck with that LOL

I never got around to understanding how obsidian works past a surface level

[fast dew]

As in. The volcanic glass?

[lean garden]

as in the note taking app

[fast dew]

OH. OH MY GOD

[midnight ice]

fancy note app

[fast dew]

Dawg I was working off the idea of literal obsidian

[strange plinth]

tbf you don't need much more than that for most things

[lean garden]

has the ability to represent pages as connected nodes

[midnight ice]

its like Notion? or your own self-contained markdown wiki with connection visualization

[fast dew]

Hence the frequency comment

[lean garden]

yea but like, it gets real tedious trying to link the nodes every time theres something new yknow

[strange plinth]

fair, yea

[fast dew]

Im gonna be real i just use basic notes and clip studio paint for note taking 😭

[lean garden]

like surely there must be a way to automate the link generation but I never figured it out

[fast dew]

Shit got me doing digital notes on an art program

[heady quest]

It’s just a large folder of individual text files that are connected through these “Links” which are words inside a text file that referte to the title of another text file

[midnight ice]

suddenly makes you realize just how much effort is wiki contributing

[lean garden]

I mean, yea thats exactly it, my issue is how tedious make links are

[heady quest]

I got an obsidian vault for soulframe already

[midnight ice]

and its in fancy Markdown

[lean garden]

for me, because I never figured out how to make it not tedious

[fast dew]

The wiki is pretty easy to use. I aint sure on how image stuff works but! I can edit text and thats all i care for

[heady quest]

Text files have themselves aliases that can refer to the title as well

And each file has certain tags, cssclasses and they even added database files for all the text files

[lean garden]

but if I use the word does it automatically become a link, or do I have to make the link myself on the word? Do I have to insert the link instead of the word?

[heady quest]

I also have an addon that adds 3D view of the whole graph! Which is pretty intense

[lean garden]

ah shit database management type shit that im extremely uneducated about

[lean garden]

I thought the link model was part of the default build?

[heady quest]

You have to make the link yourself. That is to make sure no redundant links are made

[lean garden]

or do you mean you have a ball

[heady quest]

Yeah the 2D graph but not a 3D graph

[lean garden]

theres no axis right

its just random spacing between related nodes

[lean garden]

cosbofbwufbe

[heady quest]

No it is pretty intense on the processor but I find it just really cool to see these lore maps in 3D

[heady quest]

It’s basically calculated via repelling forces, link forces and a common center force. So there is a 0,0 point in the graph but I mostly turned that one off to make sure the graph doesn’t devolve into a sphere

[lean garden]

so you made a cube

[heady quest]

I can even make a line 👀

[fast dew]

These are some magic words

[heady quest]

No I just like using obsidian. In my messed up chaos brain, obsidian really helps me develope a whole overview of things

And see what it connected on a quick level

I even used it on my thesis

[fast dew]

I respect it

We just have different learning styles, i feel

[heady quest]

Everybody is unique in that aspect!

[glass sluice]

It's a crime we never got a proper reboot of that franchise.

[glass sluice]

I continue to only hear that as the rock, and it's making this whole thing way funnier.

[lean garden]

no idea which franchise youre referring to

I can think of like 2 that involve cubes

[glass sluice]

Cube. 🧊

[lean garden]

theres a franchise called cube?

[heady quest]

Cube.

[glass sluice]

theres 3 movies and a semi-reboot.
they get weirder and weirder.

[midnight ice]

theres this not old horror movie either called or about the cube where a bunch of people have to escape a booby trapped alien cube?

[glass sluice]

the second one has lore that makes the Void's story look sane.

[midnight ice]

i suppose?

[lean garden]

is that the one?

[glass sluice]

first of all how dare you.

[lean garden]

I know there was some horror that involved a giant puzzle cube

[glass sluice]

second yes it's old, shut up.

it's a canadian made horror series.

[heady quest]

Old Cube. 🧊

[glass sluice]

there was one of those youtuber-bait horror games based off the idea a while back, where you walked itno a glowy room and it might or might not be trapped, had to use a shoe to check. It's stolen directly from the movie.

[fast dew]

Yeah! I for one need a visual and tactile experience to learn and retain information, so smthn like notetaking like you would use isnt for me, but it is for you, and thats sick

[fast dew]

Weird that. Is a concept ive heard of before

[glass sluice]

It is from 1997.

The first one still holds up.

[fast dew]

I like older media so high chance I'd know it, especially if its from that time

[glass sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/cube-vincenzo-natali-scifi-horror-psychological-thriller-gif-14597689

[fast dew]

Bet yall dont know anything about chex quest

[glass sluice]

The cereal?

[fast dew]

Yeah. That but a game. Its a.. total rehaul of doom 1993 iirc

[glass sluice]

Oh yeah that was a weird time, a bunch of brands back then did that. My favouite was 7up's "cool spot".

https://tenor.com/view/nice-soda-surfing-7up-gif-12196891

[fast dew]

It has a sequel too, from memory. Though, its fan made but endorsed iirc

[glass sluice]

It's kinda like how now companies will make those fake tiktoks that are from "fans". Back then, they used to slap together a game clone of something popular and give it away for free.

free advertising for the company, and people retain a brand more if they are playing a game.

I say, as I'm drinking tea from a WF mug.

[fast dew]

Real

I have a tennovip cup i got

Can barely see the logo but

OH YEAH

I HAVE AN OFFICAL WARFRAME BRANDED BOTTLE OPENER

What a great thing to own

Its so strange, its a really odd choice

They're clearly encouraging me to go get shitfaced and cry again

[glass sluice]

I like to think they're aware of the classics. Branded bottle-openers were really common back in the day, before my time.

I've got more than a few ashtrays with logos laying around in a box somewhere.

[fast dew]

Mine is this really pretty blue that does remind me a lot of the old peace

[strange turtle]

Obsidian library?

[heady quest]

Vault mb

It’s a note taking program where you can make a node graph of all your notes

[ocean geyser]

Can’t remember
Does anything happen if you talk to Grandmother while playing Dagath?

[opaque zenith]

No interaction, Yareli, Uriel, Xaku and a frame with the wolf fur cape also hasn't btw

[ocean geyser]

Man :(

[fast dew]

Nup. Its kinda balls

Because the ventkids will react to yareli iirc so its not like they didn't think of it

[restive river]

Grandma gets stage fright specifically with Warframes, she thinks they’re so cool she freezes up and just talks normally

[fast dew]

Shes so real for this one

[strange turtle]

Wait does Lavos have a line at all

[fast dew]

Does he have one???

Why does he have one but the warframes that have been confirmed to interact hasn't 😭

[restive river]

His only connection to the family is he was tossed into Vilcor’s inventory just cause he had nowhere else to go

[restive river]

Wait does he have one what 😭

[strange turtle]

Lavos’ Draught

-# also I refuse to believe they’re not going to do something with him being in their inventory and them both having alchemy at some point, even if its just a throwaway line. I will die on this hill, this is my “Sentient Void Consciousness” theory

[strange plinth]

-# lavos leverian 2: lavos takes refuge w/ the entrati family

[strange turtle]

-# dagath leverian: dagath also ended up taking refuge with them but she left and they forgot

-# the family was just a cat sanctuary for warframes

[dark compass]

Yareli does with Ventkids, Gyre does with Holdfasts, Nokko does with Nightcap

Baro does with Inaros

i think theres more, but im not sure

[tall echo]

the protos should have lines when talked to while using their frames

*they don't but they should

[fast dew]

Mm

[dark compass]

two Lizzies arguing

[fast dew]

They'd rip each other's heads off lol

[dark compass]

what part of the guitar is considered a "head"

[fast dew]

Doesnt Lizzie like

[tall echo]

the part where you tune them

[fast dew]

Possess Flare's own body

[dark compass]

but she has her own fingers

[dark compass]

the moment you talk to Flare using Temple

https://tenor.com/view/ted-ted-fight-ted-john-fighting-ted-john-fight-john-gif-7467005962433459367

[tall echo]

they wouldn't argue

[dark compass]

ah yes, a hivemind

i guess theyll shake each other's weird little hands

[tall echo]

now I'm just imagining two lizzies communicating in jazz hands for the heck of it

[fast dew]

Literally

It would be so funny

[narrow pendant]

the trophy having his entity code is very integral to the lore

[normal mountain]

Konzu reacts to Gara
...I'm pretty sure

[dark compass]

oh yeah

Ordis with Jade too

[normal mountain]

...forgot about Ordis and Jade tbh
Been a bit since I talked to him in the camp

[dark compass]

and Nidus with helminth

[normal mountain]

I bet Otak has some lines with Citrine

[dark compass]

i think worm queen hs unique lines if you go to conjunction survival AS voruna

[normal mountain]

Hmm
Nope
Otak has no unique Citrine lines

At least according to the Wiki

Missed opportunity, if you ask me