lore-discussion

[sharp breach]

Im unsure for how long before operators slept that they were just running about. No one really mentions them ageing so idk

[gentle isle]

If they didn't age mentally from the sleep all the trauma messed em up good anyways regardless

[lean garden]

I mean, consider that rell gave up his body to be permanently in harrow because he'd die from old age

[gentle isle]

How well adjusted would you expect a child soldier to be lol

[sharp breach]

Ok so the sleep simply paused them like in ATLAB but the time line simply hasn't been long enough for them to age like drifter

I expected that drifter was older because they didnt have the void magic during their alternate dimension shenanigans

[gentle isle]

The only reason the drifter is older because they weren't in cryo while we were

[lean garden]

hell the only reason why drifter isnt ancient is because along the line thrax just repeated the same day over and over

[sharp breach]

But drifter is thrax right?

[gentle isle]

Yea we aged normally until thrax decided to groundhog day the drifter

No

[lean garden]

no

[gentle isle]

We CREATED thrax

And the entirety of duviri

[fleet furnace]

thrax is a conceptual embodiment created by drifter, along with the rest of duviri

[sharp breach]

All based off a book all the operators learned about on the zaraman right?

[gentle isle]

Conceptual embodiment: when strong emotions combine with the void, the void gives them physical form

[fleet furnace]

yeah

the duviri book was created to teach emotional control because of the consequences of CE during void travel

iirc

[gentle isle]

Yup

[sharp breach]

Riiiiight I was just about to ask if it had a reason.

Who organized the mission into the void again and why?

[gentle isle]

Tuvul

Cuz he wanted to look good

Typical orokin stuff

[fleet furnace]

the zariman mission was tuvul, and it was one of the plans to get to tau because the orokin were depleting the origin system

[gentle isle]

Yea that was the public reason, colonization

But the sentients were "too slow" so tuvul took matters into his own hands for some good PR

[fast dew]

The irony is hilarious

[fleet furnace]

i mean, when youre the only living person on an abandoned ship, and thats about it for entertainment, i wouldnt be surprised if drifter had thoughts about adventuring in durviri which ultimately led to its creation

[fast dew]

The Tales of Duviri is written by Mother/Euleria Entrati, presumably after her Father, Albrecht, conceptually embodied Wally. There's also the whole "she wrote it as her own fight against Wally" but I won't confuse you with that

[sharp breach]

So tuvul was a politically based orokin(orokin aren't aliens they are just future humans?) Who sent less evolved humans? As guniepigs to find location of tau?(what is tau a place and what's special)

[fast dew]

The orokin are just mega incomprehensibly rich people who dye their skin blue and murder children for immortality.

[fleet furnace]

i dont think theres anything special about tau, only that its a nearby system.

[gentle isle]

Orokin aren't evolved, they're just your typical arrogant nobles with too much plastic surgery

[lean garden]

Think of the 1% elites, thats the orokin, now think of a executive branch that is just them but worse, and thats the Seven

[fast dew]

Mhm. Its only special now because of how many characters put emphasis on it

[lean garden]

Tuvul is one of the Seven

[sharp breach]

THEY CHOOSE TO HAVE THOSE RIDICULOUSLY LONG LIMBS LOL

[gentle isle]

Yup it's a status symbol

[fast dew]

It wasn't important originally, but now it seems its crucial to the fight against wally

[fleet furnace]

i mean, have you seen what people do in cyberpunk?

[fast dew]

Some don't always choose to have them, Albrecht Entrati never had one, just. Never chose to get one

[fleet furnace]

and also furries exist, so the orokin are pretty tame on the body modding all things considered

[fast dew]

He was a weird ass man

[glass sluice]

hey now, be nice to furries. they run all things tech.

[gentle isle]

i thought he did have one before the wall of lohk?

[fast dew]

Nup. There's no rendition of him that has a long arm

[gentle isle]

must be remembering his portrait wrong

[glass sluice]

Drifter mentions specifically that Entrati didn't choose the long arm+blue skin when I think it was Aoi? Someone anyway, asks if there were any good Orokin.

[fast dew]

His portrayal of the void incident in the vitruvians, his portrait, his statues

[glass sluice]

Also mentions him refusing Kuva.

[radiant pier]

yo question, I'm in the new war quest rn

[fast dew]

The hand may look weird but thats a normal arm

[lean garden]

you might, because in his portrait only one arm is visible

[radiant pier]

should I switch back to my main Warframe? or keep to Excalibur Umbra?

[gentle isle]

oh i thought his hidden arm was the longer one

[fast dew]

Nah

[lean garden]

up to you, theres no difference

[radiant pier]

any unique interactions if I keep to Excalibur Umbra?

[fast dew]

Some people now think that because he. Hes alive he must've lied about not using kuva?? I don't know why they think that

[radiant pier]

dang I made a mistake starting this quest right after I forma'd my valkyr

[sharp breach]

#gameplay-discussion

[radiant pier]

oh sorry

[glass sluice]

I just kinda assumed that Orokin using Kuva was more about being pretty and less about longevity, past a certain point.

it would fit with their ego+vanity.

[gentle isle]

it's both, surely

[fast dew]

He's still scared he's wally that. That didnt change between the requiem logs and Albrecht's notes

[lean garden]

none

[radiant pier]

Coolio thank you

[fast dew]

Which fits considering how low Albrecht's ego is

[worthy flint]

Is there any lore on odis that is not explained in old peace quest

[fast dew]

refuses kuva
low self esteem

[sharp breach]

What is teshins race called?
Why do they associate with the grineer?
What does kuva do to people?
Why does albrect refuse most normal changes orokin make to themselves?

[gentle isle]

nope

[glass sluice]

"past a certain point"

[fast dew]

Folk gotta remember that he isnt. Self important he is genuinely just. Important

[glass sluice]

you only really need to restart your life as younger at the end of it, not if you bruise your big toe and don't want the hassle, like some orokin.

[fast dew]

Teshin is just a human, but a modified human called a Dax

They're both servant castes

Kuva transfer consciousness to one body to the other, allowing for immortality

Albrecht is generally just weird. His whole family is weird

[ocean geyser]

Albrecht refusing the modifications is probably just him being paranoid that he’s actually Wally

[fleet furnace]

teshin is a dax, the dax are the main army of the orokin and loyal to them
they associate with the grineer because the grineer are also genetically hardcoded to be loyal to the orokin,
few things, most of it bad
think its mainly to do with the fallout of his void experiement and paranoia about wally

[sharp breach]

Omg I never connected the dots that deimos family is all orokin lol

[ocean geyser]

And the low self esteem thomas mentioned

[fast dew]

Like..they're if the addams family were giga abusive to each other 😭 literally somehow Albrecht isnt that bad compared to the rest

[glass sluice]

that was almost certainly offered to him before the whole Wally thing.

[fast dew]

Ie mother stabbing the shit out of father for honestly a very. Non-stabbable thing

[ocean geyser]

Maybe he thought big arm was stupid

[glass sluice]

dont you badmouth the best family ever like that

[gentle isle]

they're doing...better now i think

[ocean geyser]

Which it probably was since he’d be doing things that a big arm would probably get in the way of

[gentle isle]

relatively

[fast dew]

I love the entrati a lot but Mother stabbing her husband is domestic abuse 😭

[sharp breach]

Whats the deal with orokin telepathy was that exclusive to balas?
Is it something all orokin can have?
is it just some tech thing?
Or magic/science?

[glass sluice]

i meant the adams family lol

[ocean geyser]

He literally says that it’s because of the transference bolt he had installed in Umbra

[glass sluice]

although i can relate to wanting to stab some people before.

[gentle isle]

unexplained, probably tech/part of the dax subservience

[glass sluice]

ya dont do it, but the urge is there

[fast dew]

His lack of modifications predate the void incident. Its funny though. Looking at him before the void incident. Brother was skinny

[glass sluice]

loid likes an otter

[fast dew]

Oh! No they're awesome

[fast dew]

Turned bear bcs look at his portrait, he has a dadbod and i kinda miss it

[sharp breach]

Thx for trying to answer anyway

[gentle isle]

the bolt was just part of the process to turn him into a warframe no? where does it say it was part of the telepathy?

[glass sluice]

that'll be back with Werner, count it

[ocean geyser]

In the quest???

[fast dew]

His weight fluctuates and. It probably has something to do with. Stress maybe

[glass sluice]

im still saying he's playing him in a live action, I don't care that it makes no sense

[worthy flint]

Oh i just figured out odis is ordis

[ocean geyser]

What

[sharp breach]

Who odis?

[fast dew]

Or that he eats like a rat when in 1999

[ocean geyser]

Do you mean Adis

[worthy flint]

old peace quest void slugger ring a bell

[glass sluice]

i love that they were written as a dark parody of a regular family, and then turned out all loving, making it this wonderfully brutal joke about nuclear families.

[worthy flint]

yea spelt wrong

[ocean geyser]

Adis is NOT Ordis

[gentle isle]

the cephalon's name is DAKLO

[ocean geyser]

Gang he literally dies at the end of the quest

[fast dew]

Mucking. Vegetable pizza eating asshat. Why does Albrecht like olives on his pizza whats wrong with him

[idle hull]

we already know who ordis is

[glass sluice]

if all i had to eat were 1990's american junk food, I'd probably starve too.

[fast dew]

Same, its good media. Bcs a lot of it is about accepting your weirdness and thats a good thing i feel

[glass sluice]

just picturing alby arriving in 1999, and seeing beanie babies is honestly making my entire week

[sharp breach]

U spelled 2 different versions O.R.D.I.S isn't spelled O.D.I.S

https://tenor.com/view/picking-up-newspaper-odie-garfield-newspaper-ill-get-this-gif-19321150

[fast dew]

Höllvania is in Europe so maybe the pizza isnt that bad

[glass sluice]

thats actualy Odie.

[sharp breach]

Ive heard odis

[glass sluice]

shut up i know im a dork

[worthy flint]

Sorry I haven't sleep in 4 days

[gentle isle]

bro go to sleep

[worthy flint]

no

[sharp breach]

sleep plz tenno

[ocean geyser]

Hey uh
I can’t access the quest transcript for the Sacrifice on mobile for some reason
Can someone get the Ballas quote for me?

[fast dew]

Have you realised that he has over 25 onlyne cds in the backrooms? Or that he cannot stop drawing on the walls? He is such a weird character sometimes

[worthy flint]

Warframe no I am watching warframe lore xd I am have the free time so thsgd what I do

[gentle isle]

i think i remember which one you're talking about, and in the moment i was sure ballas was lying lol

[fast dew]

Also, consider.

The backrooms was Albrecht's space. He stayed there. So where does he sleep

[glass sluice]

honestly the wall drawing is totally relatable when you are stuck by yourself for an extended period of time and no creative outlet.
during covid, this one room in my house looked real weird

[gentle isle]

i mean, can you blame me

[ocean geyser]

Fair

[sharp breach]

Ya know what im thinking of back in the barnyard odis

[worthy flint]

There's three queens ?

[sharp breach]

https://tenor.com/view/barnyard-gif-10123497183656216256

[worthy flint]

de explain ur self sob

[glass sluice]

I think thats Otis lol

[ocean geyser]

No?

Why do you think that

[worthy flint]

yea there is

[ocean geyser]

Who then

[sharp breach]

Ehhh close enough

[gentle isle]

if your grasp on the lore is this poor you really should sleep lmao

anything more you possibly learn will just fade with the deprivation

[ocean geyser]

Seriously who’s the 3 queens then 💀

[worthy flint]

But there's a wurm queen and red queen then there's a worm de never explained abt

[fast dew]

I wish I got a screenshot, but in the netracells, he's got this scribble of random alchemy shit [i think theres a damn pentagram in there], somehow it..it comes to 1999. The answer to random bullshit is. 1999. Scribbled onto the wall

[glass sluice]

i found an odis, but he's a rather plump imperial from swtor

[gentle isle]

red queen? alice in wonderland?

[ocean geyser]

Huh?
It’s just Worm and Elder

[gentle isle]

bro's mixing up warframe and disney

[ocean geyser]

Elder being the red one

[glass sluice]

that tracks, someone had to hide all those archon shards down there

[ocean geyser]

Go to bed gang 😭

[worthy flint]

Narcoleptic and isaomina doesn't mix well hahahhaha

[fast dew]

He also has his Daughter's book in the netracells and that means a lot to me

[worthy flint]

doesn't cross well

[fast dew]

But. He also has a coffee machine and a fire extinguisher

So his priorities can be a little skewed

[gentle isle]

i'd imagine they don't considering they're opposites

[sharp breach]

Ever try asmr or working out a ton and a warm shower?

[worthy flint]

As amr is nasty to me

[ocean geyser]

How do you have narcolepsy AND insomnia

That doesn’t make any sense 😭

[worthy flint]

Just it comes and goes in waves at different times

[glass sluice]

being tired all the time but not able to sleep is not that uncommon

[ocean geyser]

Bro got randomized sleep schedule

[glass sluice]

<<< source

[fast dew]

I don't suggest working out with narcolepsy. Holding heavy items and being tired isn't the best idea.

[gentle isle]

ya learn something new every day

[worthy flint]

Xd this sounds like great lore

[fast dew]

Oh as a kid I had some form of epilepsy that triggered by stress and lack of sleep, but. I was given a stress disorder and insomnia

[sharp breach]

I know right

[worthy flint]

I'm okay

[fast dew]

My body is trying to kill me

[gentle isle]

regardless i don't think screentime is helping the insomnia much

blue light literally keeps you awake

[fast dew]

Mhm

Ruins the. Circadian rhythm

[sharp breach]

Oh yeah buy some blue light glasses eases the eye damage a bit

[worthy flint]

Don't mind me I am just here I am ight

[fast dew]

Your phone might have a anti-bluelight mode

But yeah. Albrecht has weird shit in his labs in general

[glass sluice]

being on your PC/device in a dark room for extended periods of time is also not helping.
trust me, you can afford the light bill.

your eyes in a decade will thank you.

[fast dew]

Bird. He has a paragrimm, the vagabond's mask, Arthur's sword, a CRT, his mask from the void incident, a golden maw, a copy of his hat, Mother's, Daughter's and Grandmother's tokens. For some reason he doesn't have father's or son's.

[worthy flint]

Ooo 5 days near here

in 1hr or so

[fast dew]

Coffee machine, fire extinguisher, cat bed and toy, the diadem Yonta wears, a vitruvian device, temple kuva

[glass sluice]

Arthur in the kim knew what a skana was, so i wonder if that implies that they use the same word for sword, or did albrecht tell him after he uses to to kebab him.

[fast dew]

He just has random shit

[fast dew]

Ngl high chance the orokin stole the word later down the line

[gentle isle]

hard to say, i think the members of the hex know the terms kavat and kubrow so eh

[fast dew]

Mm, Kaya doesnt

[glass sluice]

that one i put down to us using them in missions so it makes sense for the hex

[gentle isle]

oh huh, weird

[fast dew]

She's not a hex member but yeah

[gentle isle]

then again quincy does say cat/dog iirc

[fast dew]

She has the conversation about her dog n stuff, and we inform her of kubrows iirc

[glass sluice]

im saying that it makes sense for the hex to know but kaya to not

[fast dew]

Yeah, course

[glass sluice]

but the hex do know what a necramech and k-drive look like, despite us not being able to use them. So there goes that theory

[fast dew]

I. Do recall for some reason maybe..Eleanor or Lettie talking about it

[fast dew]

We can use necramechs in temporal Archimedia, but. That would be later down the line from when aoi asks

[gentle isle]

hard to determine how much knowledge from before the empire is still, that, old knowledge instead of sacred oh-so-important orokin doctrine

[glass sluice]

yeah i honestly think that the kims should be taken more as "assumed lore", rather than for canon reveals.

[fast dew]

We also might have an answer to why the necramechs have that skull. Two. Answers really

Aesthetics of bones

The process necralization requires a person's body to be used, and the skull is the remnant of that

[fast dew]

They need to be held with the knowledge that people are assuming and hold bias

[gentle isle]

there's also that bit where a line from velimir/minerva gets relayed to lyon

[ocean geyser]

lol huh

[sharp breach]

Realized that wasn't lore stuff mb

[fast dew]

No thats a fair take

Thats a good take

[sharp breach]

I wish there were more cutscenes that made me consider my clothing collision because I might buy more fashion stuff if then

[fast dew]

Ie Roathe assuming Albrecht cannot love people he's close to because he was in an arranged marriage

[sharp breach]

Googling xata meaning truth made me chuckle

[fast dew]

No Roach he just didnt like her because he likes men 😭

[fast dew]

We use voidtongue around here bcs we're cool like that

https://tenor.com/view/feel-that-that's-true-feel-that-thats-xata-xata-warframe-meme-gif-15531284589461707381

[gentle isle]

the orokin closet: it still sucks to be in but at least it's gold

[fast dew]

They aint even homophobic

[ocean geyser]

Makes me wonder what the hell Xata Fass Xata meant anyway

[fast dew]

Truth chaos truth

From memory

[ocean geyser]

Well yeah that’s the literal meaning

[fast dew]

Incarnations like that do seem to just mean that

There's no letters that move it into something else

[ocean geyser]

But there’s probably a
Contextual meaning of some kind
Since voidtongue appears to be that sort of language

[fast dew]

There is, but it does lack it. I think its more like a spell than genuinely cohesive sentences

Because cohesive sentences with void tongue look a little different

[gentle isle]

perhaps how there will be more chaos to be found the closer we get to the truth? just spitballin

[ocean geyser]

Ah yes
Voidtongue spell to send us somewhere
Makes sense lmao

[drowsy saddle]

Contextual language for a speaker that doesn't have context

[fast dew]

Like ima use Yara Jeliira as an example because old man yaoi

[ocean geyser]

Gotta wonder where it sent Albrecht
Or if he just
Escaped somehow

[sharp breach]

Ohhh I never looked into void tongue never realized the deimos worms are order and chaos

[ocean geyser]

Yeah!

[gentle isle]

he probably escaped since he came back to give us that friendly lex shot

[ocean geyser]

Mfw “Tau is in sight”

People still think that was Wally

[worthy flint]

Why does it all tie down to one single operator and everything that happens there' u involved

[sharp breach]

I knew the yin yang stuff but like that i never focused on the actual word meaning but I knew the idea

[ocean geyser]

Cause we’re the one that did the deal

[worthy flint]

New war

[ocean geyser]

Yeah

[worthy flint]

yea what was the deal abt I'm confused

[fast dew]

YARA JELIIRA, SHORANAC JELIIRA
UUKAREH, UUKAREH, BELIA VEH

Cohesive sentences, meaning

Behold my heart, fill my heart fiercely
Eternal union, eternal union, I am your counterpart.

So they add context just. Its not used with wally there

[sharp breach]

What happend to the other children on the zaraman were we the only survivor

[ocean geyser]

The deal created the Tenno

[gentle isle]

you get void powers, they get redacted

[sharp breach]

So our deal killed the other children on board?

[ocean geyser]

Wally “saved” the Zariman kids by giving them void powers in return for…
We don’t know
Presumably we’re supposed to be Wally’s tool or something

[ocean geyser]

No?

[gentle isle]

no

[worthy flint]

No

[drowsy saddle]

Parasocial relationship

[ocean geyser]

There’s other Tenno besides us

[sharp breach]

Phew that had me worried

[glass sluice]

just a void prank

[fast dew]

Wally turned our parents insane, and then offered to help us by giving us void powers. "I can save them. All of them". And drifter got screwed over by wordplay

[drowsy saddle]

It killed the other versions of us

[ocean geyser]

Wally could have chosen to collapse the Drifter’s timeline too but didn’t

[sharp breach]

Ohh so we kinda did kill infinite us

[worthy flint]

But my understanding is the whisper could get free and the whisper is the opreaoter and the whisper manifested the operator so baiscly there's gonna be another war to my knowledge in my thoery

[fast dew]

Wally being strange once again

[gentle isle]

wally casually applying macroscopic quantum theory to collapse alternate possibilities of us idk what i'm sayin

[ocean geyser]

What whisper

[worthy flint]

in the wall

[ocean geyser]

Lmao

[worthy flint]

there's 3

[drowsy saddle]

Yeah, basically smushing all versions of us into a single being

[fast dew]

Eternalism. He controls strands of khra and he seems to be able to destroy some. I guess

This is a very rare case where I can use eternalism

[sharp breach]

Its so crazy how much more intense this lore is compared to destiny

[ocean geyser]

I wholly believe he kept the Drifter’s timeline active because he thought it was funny

[fast dew]

Well. Drifter didnt have one

[gentle isle]

kinda funny how my brain went to outer wilds in that moment, thinking how the void observing us collapsed different quantum possibilities into one

[fast dew]

Not after they went into duviri

[ocean geyser]

Cause like
He COULD
He really could have erased that specific one too but “hey what if I don’t save this one actually”

[fast dew]

Duviri is inside the void, which doesn't have a real timeline

[ocean geyser]

In regards to the deal I mean

[drowsy saddle]

It has neither time nor lines, considering void shapes

[ocean geyser]

Unless you mean it technically still fulfills the deal as the timeline vanishes after they get to Duviri

[fast dew]

Mhm.

[sharp breach]

Destiny:dead guy revived idc who
Warframe: children of a ship sent into a portal to gained superpowers vr controlling metal flesh monsters

[ocean geyser]

Wally was just lazy ig

[fast dew]

The timeline splits at the zariman, but collapses soon after

Maybe because we're the chosen operator and that doesn't exist for that timeline anymore

[drowsy saddle]

And now the zariman is the rubber ducky plugging the hole in reality

[fast dew]

I hope everyone knows there's multiple Albrechts out there

[sharp breach]

Me not know till now

[ocean geyser]

Perhaps even multiple loids?

[glass sluice]

one really likes pizza, one doesnt

[fast dew]

There's multiple of everyone, due to eternalism. We just can't see them

[ocean geyser]

Infinite gay old men

[sharp breach]

He has enough with nechaloid

[glass sluice]

infinite yaoi 🤯

[fast dew]

Its not even the pizza part im messed up about its the mucking OLIVES

[ocean geyser]

Alternate timeline where albrecht stayed blue for some reason

[sharp breach]

There is a universe where balas was the lotus

[fast dew]

WHY DOES HE HAVE OLIVES ON PIZZA

WHATS WRONG WITH HIM

[gentle isle]

you just made me think of an uncomfortable reality where an albrecht teamed up with an operator Rick-and-Morty style

[glass sluice]

i like to think that only a single one of his versions like olives, and the rest just keep complaining about it in the weekly meeting..

[ocean geyser]

Thomas why do you hate olive pizza

[worthy flint]

Yea albrechts are entratis avatar

in a way

to my understanding so there is mutiple

[fast dew]

I can still see that happening. He is aware of the operator, somehow

[fast dew]

Why else god I hate olives

[glass sluice]

im now picturing the operator as that one guy at the mcdonalds for the sauce

[ocean geyser]

Valid

[fast dew]

I am a hater.

[sharp breach]

Ever think there is a boring universe where 1 guy is everyone all at once just sitting in a chair

[ocean geyser]

Sending you an olive plushie

[gentle isle]

"tenno, there's no time to explain, you need to shove this glowing finger up your butt"

[fast dew]

Okay I don't know anything about rick and morty but what

[gentle isle]

the orokin security won't let it pass otherwise, tenno

[ocean geyser]

What if we ate Wally’s fingie….

[glass sluice]

"wayyyyy up your butt operator, mines too loose and loid isnt here"

[fast dew]

Me when the media i consume is just. Gay shit

[ocean geyser]

Wallkuna…

[sharp breach]

Rick drunkenly explaining warframe lore is somthing i didnt know i wanted

[glass sluice]

Alad V is just jerry. Oh no.

[fast dew]

I can stand by this, it implies bottom Albrecht and thats not something seen often

Its a crime

[sharp breach]

Rick probably did it with clem huh

[fast dew]

Ive done that before he aint special

[gentle isle]

no no no
that's nef anyo

[fast dew]

Except it was mainly doom lore and how similar some parts are to warframe

[ocean geyser]

I wonder why Wally decided his domain should be made of rocks and sand

Although the sand might be universe dust

Hm
Actually everything might be universe dust

[fast dew]

If I had a dollar for every game I played that had deimos get dragged into a space between worlds because of rich people, id have 2 dollars

[sharp breach]

No one answerd last time I asked.
Is wally made of murmur bodies like a eldrich horror?

[fast dew]

Other way around

[ocean geyser]

Yeah

[fast dew]

Murmur is made of Wally's body

Fragments

[gentle isle]

is that what that dust is made of?

[ocean geyser]

He like
Snaps bits of them off himself and does spooky shi with em

[fast dew]

Mhm.

[gentle isle]

wally's skin shavings? ew

[ocean geyser]

The dust is made of dead universes iirc

[fast dew]

Powers them with the power of dead universes

[sharp breach]

Ewww like so sand under microscope is just super tiny murmur body parts

[fast dew]

Temporal dust.

[fast dew]

Tiny lil murmur hands grabbing at you

[ocean geyser]

At least he found a use for it
Imagine how much waste that would create 😭

Half the void is just covered in sand

[gentle isle]

what's next, wally's foot fungus?
number 15

[fast dew]

He shouldn't be destroying universes in the first place

[sharp breach]

I hope if and or when we fight wally someone ||shit|| talks him

[ocean geyser]

Well yeah but it’s not like we can tell him to
Put them back

[fast dew]

Loid gets mad at wally, close enough

[ocean geyser]

Not like he’d do it if he could anyway 😭

[ocean geyser]

True

[gentle isle]

wally aint wearin any shoes, if he attacks us with void-powered athlete's foot things are gonna be rough

[ocean geyser]

even

[fast dew]

We should all be scared of loid a little

[ocean geyser]

Gay old man with zylok prime that bullet jumps

[sharp breach]

I Wanna hear fibbonachi slur at wally

[ocean geyser]

Dawg had to have styled on those corpus bro

[fast dew]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxcL5JyI3gs-OF6tcUxIMFvp8xx_sHLWj5?si=MXcXE1Bolvmu0DfT

Like look at how hard he hits it

It's not even like. Gravity doing it

Mad arc he got

[ocean geyser]

Why don’t we have that hammer :(

[fast dew]

We can get it lol

[ocean geyser]

Wait wha

[fast dew]

Its the Ekhein, you get it from bird 3

[ocean geyser]

Oh

:)

[gentle isle]

what traits does it have

[ocean geyser]

Is it a skin or an actual hammer

[fast dew]

Shit idk

Actual hammer

[ocean geyser]

Woah

[gentle isle]

probably does somethin weird

[fast dew]

Does impact, obviously and

Heavy attacks increase speed of attacks

[sharp breach]

That ball hammer looks like itd Crack open once you use it and the light bulbs on it would pop

[drowsy saddle]

Heavy attacks boost attack speed

[ocean geyser]

[gentle isle]

huh, kinda thought there'd be more

[ocean geyser]

Loid is canonically MR10

[fast dew]

Those arent lightbulbs, those are vials of. Something

[ocean geyser]

:3

[ocean geyser]

Vitriol probably?

[fast dew]

Loid can use a weapon meant for a warframe. Thats more concerning

[ocean geyser]

Albrecht has that damn thing everywhere

[sharp breach]

I mean it doesn't do corrosive damage so probably not

[ocean geyser]

Do we wanna bet that Loid used the heavy attack buff or
Was that just all Loid

[fast dew]

Its pretty

[sharp breach]

I assume he needs the buff hes low key scrawny

[fast dew]

He is not

[sharp breach]

Show me him shirtless now then

[fast dew]

Have you looked at the boob window?

We have it partially sure

Those are. Pectorals

[ocean geyser]

I imagine the buff at least helped
80% damage increase? Oh man

[fast dew]

You don't have those by just being scrawny

He's lean, but he absolutely isnt scrawny

[gentle isle]

he lifts semi-regularly

[sharp breach]

Who knows what special metal that hammer or the thing albrect stepped in was made of

[fast dew]

He could probably punch Albrecht and he'd

[drowsy saddle]

I mean he's carrying the family on his back

[fast dew]

Be out for a few days

[sharp breach]

His arms in that pose hes always in u mean?

[fast dew]

No, but he would need to, if he can just. Lift the Ekhein without issues

[ocean geyser]

I feel like using Albrecht isn’t the greatest frame of reference

[fast dew]

No but Albrecht does look pretty solid himself

Regrettably

[ocean geyser]

Imo
Post wall of Lohk Albrecht just looks like a scrawny old homeless dude

Like if you removed the 40 obols from his outfit I’d think he was homeless

[ocean geyser]

I still think that when I see him

[fast dew]

Pre void incident he is

Post incident he's a bit chubby, like a suburban dad

[sharp breach]

He's just like a short orokin lol

[fast dew]

He is a pretty short orokin, true

[ocean geyser]

He seems pretty built though too

[sharp breach]

Compressed muscle ok thats neat

[ocean geyser]

Squished orokin

[sharp breach]

Personally i dont like the gold nail polish on orokins tho

[ocean geyser]

The wha

[fast dew]

The void portrait has him with a bit of a stomach, and... moobs

[fast dew]

Most orokin will have golden nails

[ocean geyser]

Fr???

[gentle isle]

mits, even

[fast dew]

Yeah

[ocean geyser]

Didn’t know he had chonk

[sharp breach]

Yeah just look at balas or albrect when he puts his hand on loids face

[fast dew]

Look at him, hes a bit chonk

[drowsy saddle]

He certainly has a 5 head

[sharp breach]

He looks like a irl philosopher or somthing

[fast dew]

He's just a bit broad and

[gentle isle]

wait how did i not notice, he does kinda look like rick here

[ocean geyser]

Yeah he looks like the average middle aged dude here

But uh
Blue

[gentle isle]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-rick-rick-and-morty-yelling-shouting-gif-3933721843666597365

[fast dew]

Truely, a father

[sharp breach]

Albrect really went through a lot of fashion huh.

[gentle isle]

it's the stupid hair

[ocean geyser]

Ngl he wasn’t cooking with that haircut
Is that why he has the hat now..

[gentle isle]

could also be balding

[fast dew]

He probably does have some form of balding

Most orokin have. Kinda fake hair

[ocean geyser]

Yeah I was thinking that
Receding hairline

[ocean geyser]

Wait it’s fake?

[fast dew]

It looks fake 😭

[ocean geyser]

Well that’s just because they’re space rich people

[fast dew]

Could be DE being bad at that hair texture early on

[sharp breach]

So albrect is like the most "natural" and hes in a generation of people who do cosmetic surgery to look more Noble

[gentle isle]

ballas looks like he glued noodles on his head tbh

[fast dew]

We dont know why he did it, high chances are is its for practicality

[ocean geyser]

The only one that nails the look is Kaelli imo
I’d say Kermerros too but I can remember the hairstyle

[sharp breach]

Idk what they even do seems like orokin just have others do stuff for them idk how they get stuff started

[ocean geyser]

I wonder what Vilcor had before he uh
Got bald

[ocean geyser]

It’s uh
A little messy

[fast dew]

Most orokin do, Albrecht doesn't

[fast dew]

It looks like clay

[ocean geyser]

Yeah

[radiant pier]

I'm going to rip Ballas apart

[ocean geyser]

Best we can do is give him weird legs

[gentle isle]

Get in line buddy

[sharp breach]

Balas dangling leg was always weird

[ocean geyser]

Although that’s the first time I’ve seen amalgamation look so
Weird and fleshy
Although maybe they had less time to do it

[fast dew]

Albrecht doesn't use servants, he is on the floor with them and I think thats cool

[fast dew]

It does seem like an emergency amalgamation

[sharp breach]

So what was the deal with balas legs changing idk what caused that and why he suddenly was a slave

[ocean geyser]

We stabbed him

[fast dew]

Probably messed his spine up

[ocean geyser]

That or the sentients didn’t have normal ways of healing him

[fast dew]

And. He pretended to he a slave

[ocean geyser]

Which I would understand

[gentle isle]

Well he wasn't a slave, not for long

[fast dew]

He. He just pretended to do it

[gentle isle]

If only he took up acting

[sharp breach]

So balas was into it

[ocean geyser]

But yeah I definitely think they just didn’t have any other options by default

[ocean geyser]

Well he made Khora in Margulis’s honour so

I feel like that says some things

[fast dew]

nihil swag..........

[ocean geyser]

About him at least

[gentle isle]

His legs look so short

[ocean geyser]

Stealing the thing on his forehead

[sharp breach]

He could do hands shoulders knees and toes not bending down a inch lol

[fast dew]

He is. So pretty...

Why did we get Roach why couldn't we get Nihil

[ocean geyser]

🏳️‍🌈

[ocean geyser]

That would have been surprisingly badass

[sharp breach]

Who is nihil

[fast dew]

LOOK AT HIM.

[ocean geyser]

^

[ocean geyser]

We’re talking about him 😭

[sharp breach]

He looks like those white aliens from prometheus alien movie

[fast dew]

The... engineers..?

I don't like the new alien films

[gentle isle]

An orokin in charge of criminal execution iirc, particularly creating cephalons

[fast dew]

The worst type of execution

The roach is scared of it

[sharp breach]

Thank you I dont know who he is and all everyone saying is hes hot lol

[fast dew]

HE IS THOUFH

[gentle isle]

He was a boss from a previous nightwave event

[fast dew]

OBJECTIVELY HE IS CONVENTIONALLY ATTRACTIVE

[ocean geyser]

He kind of looks like a Vessel

[sharp breach]

Never watched em just see vids talking of lore or junk even if I dont care about the franchise I see those vids occasionally

[restive lantern]

So true lmfao

[ocean geyser]

Maybe we all just have different tastes in men

[fast dew]

We probably do but

[ocean geyser]

My immediate thought is just the Vessels

[sharp breach]

I cant help but connect the dots and think Thomas wants a dakimura of him cuz your name is similar sounding

[ocean geyser]

Lmao?

[fast dew]

I would love one

I am the singular Nihil fan

[restive lantern]

Like the big white bald dudes we control

[ocean geyser]

Mhm

He really does look like one
The lines on his face don’t help

Maybe Albrecht thought he was cool too

[fast dew]

I hope not

Nihil is. Just insane

[ocean geyser]

Yeah true

[fast dew]

He isn't mentally sound 😭

[drowsy saddle]

Not even the fun way

[ocean geyser]

Wasn’t he a weirdo even before he glassed himself

[sharp breach]

What did he do in the nightwave event was that the thing of turning people into fully sentient glass forever

[fast dew]

Mhm.

[ocean geyser]

This man got pissed that Gara wanted to be a Warframe

[sharp breach]

Why tho why glass

[drowsy saddle]

He's about the closest thing to an orokin incel we know of

[fast dew]

He was. A bit weird but its in a very specific way that makes sense for how he ended up

[sharp breach]

Weird that vauban is bought from nightwave and not gara then

[gentle isle]

That's how cephalon making works

[drowsy saddle]

Gara is tied to the unum

[ocean geyser]

Because Gara blew herself up to stop Cetus from being destroyed afterwards
Putting her in Nightwave would
Not make sense™

[drowsy saddle]

Im fairly sure the gara components we find are basically just gifts from the unum

[fast dew]

I aint gonna try and justify shit he is just insane and genuinely thinks that everyone is at fault

[drowsy saddle]

-# who is basically giving away her gf to a bunch of people but aight

[sharp breach]

Earlier week all I learned was the unum is a localized building that can effect time so its low key a god but localized power

[drowsy saddle]

Well the animals used to be controlled by the unum

Until the eidolon started munching on them for the unum's kuva

[gentle isle]

It's a living structure that can see alternate timelines I think

[drowsy saddle]

Milk of human kindness smh mh

[ocean geyser]

This man so goofy that he decided that wanting to undergo a procedure so bad that it was used as a punishment
Should be punished by giving out a different, almost as bad punishment

Rare Ballas W by giving her a glass theme specifically to piss him off honestly

[fast dew]

Its worse in the eyes of the orokin, given their whole. Memory thing

[sharp breach]

I dont see the benefit in turning into a warframe if you lose sentience unlike protoframes.

[fast dew]

Being a cephalon makes it so he can adjust and or obliterate your memories

[fast dew]

Ballas sucked and couldn't make protoframes

[gentle isle]

I don't think Gara volunteering was out of a particular benefit but I'm just speculating

[sharp breach]

Albrect :1 balas:-8

[ocean geyser]

I mean yeah but getting Framed doesn’t do much better on that end

Even if that
Kind of takes a bit

[restive lantern]

I mean turning into a living bio weapon does seem to have its faults lol

[drowsy saddle]

Because sentience is a downside for the orokin?

[ocean geyser]

And she knew the truth of it and volunteered anyway

[fast dew]

At leastirs a natural one, which i think is better

At least to them.

[ocean geyser]

Fair

[restive lantern]

I dunno if he deserves even that point lol both kinda seem evil to turn someone into and have downsides

[fast dew]

You know I'd probably get glassed for flirting with Nihil

Like. Immediately

[ocean geyser]

Besides
She kicks ass in HEELS
Ballas gave her goddamn high heels and she’s fine

[sharp breach]

Albrect: N/A balas: no legs

[ocean geyser]

I personally believe that’s just Gara, not even the Warframe enhancement

That woman was just built astronomically different

[fast dew]

There's an ember deluxe that has no feet at all

[restive lantern]

Now that's a score I can get behind lmfaooo

[fast dew]

And i think thats peak design

[ocean geyser]

Wait what

Fr?

[fast dew]

Mhm. Not vermilion, but the other one. She has no feet!

[sharp breach]

I thought wisp was the only with no feet

[glass sluice]

the fetishists were in shambles

pyraxi-something

personal fave of mine

[restive lantern]

W for the normals

[drowsy saddle]

Wisp prime is a trade off, smaller behind but actual feet

[sharp breach]

Im not into em but follies hands are pretty ngl

[fast dew]

Ignore yareli

[ocean geyser]

Ah pyraxis

[fast dew]

Peak design

[gentle isle]

what's it gonna take for DE to remove the infested booger effect from xata's whisper

[ocean geyser]

The balance to walk on them thangs must be crazy

[ocean geyser]

The what

[gentle isle]

xata's whisper shares the same visual effect as nidus' parasitic link iirc

as a subsume

completely unaffected by energy color

[ocean geyser]

Interesting

[gentle isle]

ruins any and all fashion

[fast dew]

Unless you plan for it

[gentle isle]

i hate it with a burning passion and yet it just does such funny things with blast weapons

[sharp breach]

Seems every chat can divulge from original topic but no hate against it its just interesting

[gentle isle]

i have to cover it with the new opula ephemera and dark colors

[ocean geyser]

Yeah we do that sometimes

[gentle isle]

i read somewhere the reasoning for xatas having an infested effect is from an old thread on how the void had an "infested truth" or something along those lines

[sharp breach]

I have been so into this chat I forgot to try and log in but now its getting late and idk if I wanna play anymore today lol

[gentle isle]

but we're in a new era now and that is bogus

[ocean geyser]

Btw
Saw the Star Child diadem during blood of Perita
You would not believe the horror that appeared on my face as I read it’s description

[fast dew]

Mm.

[ocean geyser]

U shaped thingy
And “Balla’s most favoured Dax”

Yeah that was unpleasant information
Can’t believe we got the Umbra hat

I wonder why umbra had those U shaped things anyway
Even in his Dax armour

Probably a rank thing but still

Maybe he was the ONLY Dax under Ballas with that rank?

Personal bodyguard or something.?

[fast dew]

He was probably close enough

Close enough for ballas to be with a random dax and his son to be not abnormal

[ocean geyser]

I wonder if Hildryn was his replacement then

Or if Ballas decided “man what if I had TWO bodyguards actually”

[fast dew]

Well, Dax were probably away fighting

[ocean geyser]

True
I’m pretty sure his portrait was made while Umbra was deployed or something

There’s like, other Dax and supplies of some kind below him i think

Beyond that, makes me wonder when he made her
Cause she could have shown up during the Old Peace depending on when he made her

[radiant pier]

sorry to interrupt, just one thing

[ocean geyser]

God imagine how cool the ending would have been if we fought a hildryn..

[radiant pier]

WHAT WAS THAT WALL??

[ocean geyser]

:3

[radiant pier]

THAT WAS SO,DAMN

[ocean geyser]

Was there perhaps a
Man in it?

[gentle isle]

hehehe

[radiant pier]

YEAH

there was a straight up

man in the wall

[ocean geyser]

Me when the man in the wall is a man in a wall

[radiant pier]

I guess more like a cinder block

[ocean geyser]

Something like that, I suppose

[radiant pier]

wait so Ordis is just like this from now on?

I LOVE IT HE'S SO CUTE

[gentle isle]

get the sentinel skin

[strange plinth]

the body? yea he'll stay like that
there's a way to disable it (and a bunch of other stuff) in the settings but idr what its called exactly

[gentle isle]

streamer mode?

[strange plinth]

probably?

[radiant pier]

I'm good, I love him

[radiant pier]

I can do that? where?

[gentle isle]

it costs plat but you can see it in the in game market or in the companion appearance menu with a sentinel equipped

you can have a lil ordis floating over you in missions

[radiant pier]

OOOO

[gentle isle]

doesn't have voicelines tho, missed opportunity

[radiant pier]

oh, aw :<

[fast dew]

A little ordis murdering things for you!

[radiant pier]

off topic, last question, is there a real life Ordis plush

[restive lantern]

What really made me like ordis despite his problematic past is Octavias quest. He really will go out of his way to help people.

[radiant pier]

he is also incredibly hilarious

I laughed so hard at 2am when I realized who this "???" was god whoever wrote his dialogue and who his va is, I love them

I'll buy a bunch of floofs

[ocean geyser]

I think so?

[radiant pier]

YUS

[blissful merlin]

Real life plush of him haha

[glass sluice]

His OG VA retired late last year. Well earned retirement for a legend of DE.

[fast dew]

Its been sold out for yoinks unfortunately

[radiant pier]

NOOOOO

[fast dew]

At least. Last i checked?

Haven't seen it on the site

[glass sluice]

No results for "ordis" on the warframe store at all, which is criminal because I 100% need more ordis merch in my life.

[fast dew]

You can get a desert... stake..? The. The weird fella that looks like a sting ray

[glass sluice]

His latter form would make a great pin.

[fast dew]

Mm. Cufflinks. I could see them as that

[glass sluice]

skate, ,its named after a fish :p

i think its the same one in that meme of the 2 ladies freaking out and the thing on their shoulders smiling

[fast dew]

Ive never been super into fish, more of a bird guy

[glass sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-hello-gif-9627891

they look weird

[fast dew]

Oh my god its literally just that

[restive lantern]

Lil feets

[glass sluice]

i love how DE can add what looks like a 100% alien to WF, and its just a real fish.

[fast dew]

Here i am thinking the orokin like. Deadass made sting rays into a ground animal

Because thats something they would do

[glass sluice]

DE need to keep stealing from real animals. we need an okapi-like, stat

[fast dew]

Mm

They do have a koala equivalent

I have a magnet of it, because I collect magnets and when I learned I could get an exclusive magnet i

[glass sluice]

heres the big question: do they refer to it as a bear?

[restive river]

They’re not exclusive lol

[fast dew]

I don't think they do

Ducky, what 😭

[restive river]

Tagfer’s species the cervulites are probably the closest

[glass sluice]

good, because they are 100% not bears and we australians despise when people call them bears.

[restive river]

They’re deer cats

[glass sluice]

i love that you care about them

[restive river]

I’m saying you can like both fish and birds lol

[fast dew]

We only do it to scare tourists tbh

The whole..drop bear stuff

[restive river]

I’m sad they’re practically extinct, it woulda been cool to see them on the plains 😔

[fast dew]

We propagate a lot of the myths around Australia for shits n giggles

[restive river]

I hate my auto correct

😩

[fast dew]

I do think we have a chance at. Fixing it, the extinction of them

[drowsy saddle]

Isn't there like an indie game where you hunt Australian mythical creatures

[glass sluice]

best country wide prank ever, even if i cant link the national geographic article

[fast dew]

Because what, honestly what was the plan if they only had one breeding pair

[restive river]

By this point I don’t think so

[drowsy saddle]

Also aren't drop bears just koalas falling asleep and falling onto people

[glass sluice]

nah, they're face eating monsters who prey on tourists

the only way to defend yourself is to rub vegemite behind your ears

[fast dew]

Did they take into count how much inbreeding would happen if they relied on a singular pair

[restive river]

I mean with Orokin bioengineering I don’t think that’s an issue

[glass sluice]

well that explains a lot about this conversation

[fast dew]

Like if the species Tagfer is were lifelong maters, so it would explain why it was a singular mating pair. They didn't have a female/male to another female/male, and could've been relying on Minn and Tagfer to produce a certain gendered offspring

[glass sluice]

If the end result is going to be generations of tagfer offspring that look like the Hapsburgs, why even bother.

[restive river]

Again
Orokin bioengineering
I think if they wanted to save the species they could

[glass sluice]

Even the orokin couldn't just wave a wand and fix stuff, notably

[restive river]

I mean yeah but this is a matter of genetics

Which is a specific speciality of theirs

[fast dew]

Something they excelled in

[glass sluice]

i mean, their biggest issue all along was a matter of genetics too, and that never got resolved

[fast dew]

Mm. Wonder if they could've done clones

[restive river]

They have cloning tech, they can gene edit, this isn’t an issue

[restive river]

What?

If you mean the issue was aging then sure ig

[fast dew]

Mm, but how bad would the clone rot be if they don't have enough genetic material?

[glass sluice]

What fills up a WF, takes over planets, and outlasted the Orokin Empire without even trying.

[restive river]

There was no clone rot during the Orokin empire :p

[fast dew]

No, but how it happens is from lack of material, right?

[restive river]

Oh yeah sure ig lmao

[fast dew]

Stuff being gene locked away

[glass sluice]

ya know, looking at the Infestation vs Orokin, the old blue heads are looking kinda pathetic.

[restive river]

I don’t think it matters if it’s during the Orokin empire :p

[fast dew]

But theres

[restive river]

They did pretty good overall but it was a consistent problem
They could control it but to a point and also after at least 18 radiation wars (and who knows what else)

[fast dew]

Ducky if there's only, say, 4 cervulites, no matter how much stuff they can do, there's a set amount of genetic material. The reason there was no clone rot was that they could get new material by like. Kidnapping folk

[glass sluice]

"civvies go in the blender to make the handsome grineer" basically

[restive river]

Idk I think they could do enough gene editing to make a difference

The real issue would be keeping the species “pure”

[fast dew]

I honestly don't think they could

[glass sluice]

I think the real quesiton is: why would they bother?

[restive river]

I mean yeah that too

This is relying on the hypothetical that they care enough to do that lol

Which they wouldn’t
But I do think if they wanted to they could

The species would likely become very different but they would be able to save it

[fast dew]

Because despite everything, animal preservation is something they appeared to care about. Son cannot be the only orokin ever to care about animals

[glass sluice]

unless tagfer's species could give the orokin something, i very much doubt they would care about preservation that much
"we've just discovered that this one species of cat deer can give us even longer arms" is about what it would take.

wait, the necks. Yep that's now canon for me.

[restive river]

Doesn’t Son only care cause he likes the infestation?

Also I would say that his fascination with infested animals is to a degree different than caring about non-infested animals

[fast dew]

We. We should tell Son about Tagfer

[restive river]

Yeah idk if he’d care
I don’t recall how much he says on non-infested animals

[restive lantern]

Depends on the orokin, I could see blue girl doing that just because

[glass sluice]

daughter would melt down at seeing bird 3, you just know it

[restive river]

She cares more about dissecting things

[fast dew]

We should. Just inform him about the void infused creatures

[glass sluice]

i honestly think bird3 would be into onlyne, they give me the vibe

[fast dew]

I think thats something that could pique his interest about them

[restive river]

Again, idk if he’d care
Maybe he’d find them interesting but they aren’t infested

[restive lantern]

She had a whole live collection that got released

[restive river]

Which seems to be his special interest

[restive river]

Yeah, a live collection that she wanted to dissect

[fast dew]

Good god they're all autistic

[glass sluice]

they are entratis

[fast dew]

Tbf it does kinda seem to come from both sides

[glass sluice]

just autism all the way down with that lot
its the air in deimos.

[fast dew]

I see you vilcor you aint escaping the autism allegations

[glass sluice]

father and his necramechs are like thomas with what i assume is a train obsession, how close?

[restive river]

Albrecht, not trains

Albrecht and Loid specifically

[fast dew]

No actually my mechanical special interest are mainly like

[glass sluice]

nah it has to be an IRL model thing.

[fast dew]

.. cars

[glass sluice]

KNEW IT

[fast dew]

Car parts, specifically

I have a Diff model I built somewhere

Though.

I can identify what kind of train is passing by sound alone

[restive lantern]

I don't think she just didn't get around to it, I think was just as interested in keeping some as a prized collection as well as dissecting some.

[fast dew]

And.. I know the train schedule

[fast dew]

This is also true, despite my wish for it not to be

[restive river]

From what I recall she was planning on dissecting them

[fast dew]

I genuinely wanted to get into the sentients

[restive river]

I don’t have the time to fact check it but feel free to

[fast dew]

Anyways woe vessel without skin

They are huge, i wonder a lot how he managed to build something like this

Incredibly detailed but huge

[restive lantern]

Oh my God 😭😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️

That's so damn cute

[fast dew]

Also I don't think we talk about the duviri kavat much and its sad

[glass sluice]

i was trying to find that one screenshot i had of the first time i found one in duviri, but instead found the last time i ever ran a LoR and now feel melancholy AF

[fast dew]

:(

[glass sluice]

RIP old trials, I'll miss ya.

[fast dew]

Its so interesting seeing how fashion has changed over the years

[glass sluice]

wf was a lot simpler back then in its design, i both do and dont miss it

[fast dew]

I do like when some simple, but others aren't. This is an issue more recently

Like. Love Liger and their work

But some designs become so busy

I think a good middle ground would be like jade or yareli

But an extreme would be like.. Sevagoth Prime

[glass sluice]

there was a certain consistency to WF's design that feels like it was lost somewhere.
not necessarily a bad thing, its allowed for some cool stuff.
but i do have some nostalgia for "colour was the main thing you could change"

[fast dew]

I can agree, yeah

I do think the early designs were. Shy? Timid? Unwillingness to experiment

Which is why I'm glad theyre experimenting more, being bolder

But that sometimes results in. Sevagoth prime and being unable to fashion him because of how busy his design is

[glass sluice]

i honestly wouldnt say so, the old designs felt like there was a stricter style to things, more set lines to draw inside of.
this is before ephemeras and signas, and tennogen wasnt really a thing yet IIRC

[fast dew]

Tennogen is like. 11 this year I think?

[glass sluice]

okay so it did exist, but was calmer. this shot is from 2016

[fast dew]

It definitely was calmer

Did you see the new hammer skin that's just an entrati box?

[drowsy saddle]

I mean, i for one am excited for the new martial art: furniture combat

[glass sluice]

i will say, adding a frame that can spawn in objects, to an incredibly closed in and claustrophobic+dark tileset was a choice

[fast dew]

Same, I cannot wait to hit people with the entrati hammer that doesn't suck [sorry Ekhein, you are kinda balls]

It absolutely was one

I can feel myself being overwhelmed easy if I did solo

[restive lantern]

Sorry it took me a min! While I think she dissected some of them for sure and is a lil weirdo about it, I don't think she was killing all of them especially the ancestoral collection that she keeps. She mentions directly keeping a archival collection of fish that she takes care of and father thinks she has too many. But she was originally supposed to study them for gene-bases biological research for seeding a new planet with them.

[glass sluice]

this is the first frame in a long time that i might just buy

[restive river]

Use Kullervo or Valkyr

[glass sluice]

thats just cheating, ducky

taping a grenade to a baseball would make it harder to catch, but its not really in the spirit of things lol

[drowsy saddle]

I wonder if the ink stuff in her gamemode has collision

[fast dew]

I freak out when things are slow, and having a hammer thats already slower and then making it so its faster to go slower is. Not fun

[drowsy saddle]

I don't think it does

[fast dew]

I panic and simply explode

[glass sluice]

im just wondering how DE thought that a frame that can spray ink, and you can colour it, was a good idea

[drowsy saddle]

Dispatch overdrive

[glass sluice]

ya know what every 2nd follie is going to be coloured.

[fast dew]

They made custom decals for her. 3rd?

[drowsy saddle]

Bubbgum

[fast dew]

The summon ability.

[drowsy saddle]

The first is white

[fast dew]

They made custom things for that

[restive river]

I’m just saying if you wanted to make it work you can

[fast dew]

Legally distinct photoshop

[restive river]

That’s how Warframe works most of the time

[glass sluice]

nah 2nd is red, haemophiliac frame

[fast dew]

Gardura:

[glass sluice]

shes the one that causes the bleeding, follie is the victim

[fast dew]

Gardua? Gardura?... gardrua...

BAJAJ

Thats funny

Go my Gardrua go

[glass sluice]

its in my headcanon that theyre in a contract relationship

[fast dew]

[glass sluice]

hey if oberon and titania are alby+loid, this could work too

i did find some old fanart the other day of excal+nyx dating that has aged like fine wine.

or milk, depending on how funny you find that irony

[fast dew]

Hey wait

[drowsy saddle]

I didn't know King Arthur subscribed to the Habsburg method of dating

[fast dew]

Hold on

While I was being cringe and trying to visualise the void incident I. How did Albrecht see shit if his eyes were blasted out

[drowsy saddle]

Im fairly sure Oberon and Titania are that weird flirty middle aged couple at the bar and Oraxia is the one they liked the vibe of

[glass sluice]

oh good lord dont remind me of that crap

this is why im glad im not single, because "a 3rd" is the bane of my existence.

[fast dew]

Ha real

"Oh you're pan wanna join us" i hope you die/hj

[glass sluice]

and the guy always looks like if human shrek was dead for a week

[fast dew]

YEAH

[restive lantern]

It's always dudes like that 😭

[glass sluice]

but regardless: im gay, ya absolute asdasdasdasd, i cant say that word here.
no im not looking to date men. that is sorta the whole point.

[fast dew]

Like its not always the men who look like that, but if it is, they always look like that

[fast dew]

Honestly just saying im trans scares them away

Mostly.

[restive lantern]

Imagine being ENM and pan 😭 it's awful how many people expect me to be a unicorn experiment

[glass sluice]

to be fair, the women always look like they sell MLM's on facebook as a career

[fast dew]

Blond with kinda horse teeth? The "im straight but my bf find it hot" deal?

[drowsy saddle]

Funnily enough my mom got snagged into the whole Herbalife thing, but not to make money but to genuinely try and lose weight

It didn't work and we dropped everything purchased into the bin 3 months in

[restive lantern]

Listen I have seen girls who just look like a alt bi girl and then it's only until later they drop it on me 😭

[fast dew]

I do not miss being a lesbian, but. Now im a trans man and i get hidden from any choice in queer spaces

Actually.

[glass sluice]

i did have that happen once. 3 weeks dating before they revealed that they had a bf.

[fast dew]

Thats also an issue lesbians got

[restive lantern]

STOP THATS INSANE 😭😭😭😭💔

[glass sluice]

nothing against polys and all that, but its just not for me.
i have enough insecurity to manage with a single person lol

[fast dew]

Most poly relationships do unfortunately kinda just.

Self combust a lot

[restive lantern]

Thats fair! It's not for everyone and that's okay 💖

[drowsy saddle]

Funny considering how the military always puts 3 people into vehicles cause otherwise 2 would kill each other

[glass sluice]

i mean ya never know the future, im not saying "no" forever, but with my limiting factor its tough

[fast dew]

Yeah honestly as a person who spends long hours in cars with people, 3 is better than 2

Especially if its folk im comfortable enough around to be loud with

[drowsy saddle]

The Swedish S tank was originally supposed to have 2 crewmates, they added a radio operator out of fear that they'd kill each other

[fast dew]

Its a whole issue I have, they have to get certain carers in or i just won't feel comfortable to do anything 😭 this extended to eating and they ended up thinking I never ate

[fast dew]

Did you know of the time the United forces stole a German tank?

[restive lantern]

I actually was someone who was like "absolutely not no never. " But my bf was always open to it. Years later I wanted to explore more of myself outside of my relationship because we had been together since we were 18. Now I genuinely cannot imagine not having my girlfriend in my life.

[fast dew]

Australia, Britain and Canada moment

[drowsy saddle]

You mean Strategically Transferred Equipment to Alternate Location?

[fast dew]

Delightful.

[glass sluice]

with my, uh, vocal issue, communication with anyone is incredibly hard, and im just lucky i found one person who can deal with it.
i cant imagine 2 at once.

self-esteem issues aside

[restive lantern]

That makes a lot of sense! Absolutely only do things you're comfortable with and such

I think a lot of people are v judgemental of poly ppl and assume it's like toxic & cheating stuff but that's why most of us call it "ethical non-monogamy" bc if ethics, consent and communication aren't at the top of your priorities you're doing it wrong lol

[fast dew]

Mm. I can relate partially. I ain't always like it, but as mentioned, I do go through these periods of inability to communicate around people i do not like. But I don't force myself to go and talk to them regardless, and im glad I have that choice. I imagine it would be significantly worse with you

Living in a carehome is. Interesting, regarding that stuff

[glass sluice]

i appreciate that you're trying to see it from my eyes

[fast dew]

Because I do have really good carers who accept it but other times they just do not care and force it.
-# which, for younger clients, usually results in broken carer bones

[fast dew]

My little brother is non-verbal, so I do have some experience with that sorta stuff

And. I live in a place where that stuff is super common, so its easier for me to see it, I think

[glass sluice]

just to confirm: im not non verbal, i physically cant

dw about it, nothing to do with lore chat anyway and we should probably get back to it before a mod sees this mess

[restive lantern]

We appreciate you Rivens ❤️

[fast dew]

Mods generally dont check these chats. Its an issue.

Anyways

[restive lantern]

Actually something I saw someone talk about earlier was the hair of the family and I am actually curious as why Albert is white but they have all have like black hair styles

[glass sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-girls-you-cant-ask-people-why-theyre-white-oh-my-god-karen-omg-gif-9133936

[restive lantern]

LMFAO IM JS

[glass sluice]

thank you so much, ive had that one saved for like 3 months now

[fast dew]

Woe Albrecht things folk don't notice

Albrecht has void scarring in his portrait

Albrecht has 4 piercings!

Purple eyeliner

His lips are purple for whatever reason

He wears doc martins, and somehow. Thats the gayest shit he has ever done. Not liking men, its. Its wearing docs
-# its a thing i swear

Ive spent too long looking at him while I try to draw him

Drillbit also inexplicably has a shirt with Albrecht on it

DOES HE HAVE THE SAME SEPTUM PIERCING AS LOID

[glass sluice]

im my mind, albrecht to make money, managed onlyne and thats why their codas are part of this

[fast dew]

Albrecht did have the clothing store

He probably committed tax evasion

[glass sluice]

if the name wasnt "voids and loids" im leaving

[fast dew]

Its Timeless Style

[restive lantern]

Damn ... Maybe the orokin are culture vultures too on top of everything else 😭💔

[fast dew]

Still some dumb joke and I love it

Its custom signage as well, it has obols

[glass sluice]

that is 100% a money laundering operation with that name

[fast dew]

Absolutely

And honestly, thats fine

The money that would've been taxed wouldve gone to scaldra

So at least he isnt funding the green nazis

[glass sluice]

"torturing recently sentient animals i can deal with, but i draw the line at tax evasion"

[restive lantern]

LMFAO

[fast dew]

The cavia weren't sentient at the start 😭

[glass sluice]

thats the recent part lol. its VERY recent

[strange plinth]

got given sentience and then put in cryo like an hour after

[fast dew]

He also wanted to do the very opposite

Ie euthanasia but thats a whole thing

[glass sluice]

"i was going to leave them, but tagfer just wouldnt shut up about his wife and you know how it is"

https://tenor.com/view/almost-naked-animals-heart-locket-gif-14963414271162569174

[fast dew]

Real

[restive lantern]

THATS SO SAD SJSJND

[fast dew]

I need to draw Loid saying that

[glass sluice]

i never get tired of those opening heart memes

[restive river]

How is that inexplicable again?

[strange turtle]

Their manager was Gregory V (no relation), some guy in a foreign country

[fast dew]

random band member Albrecht has never met
wears a shirt with his face

[strange plinth]

-# mm. unspecificed "stasis" instead of cryo. whatever
-# "One of the animals was lost, and the rest came back… like that. We placed them in stasis pending a proper examination. For them, the disaster, intelligence, and self-hood all occurred only hours ago."

[restive river]

We know who managed them and that Scaldra assisted

[fast dew]

Means someone made the shirt

Who the hell made the shirt 😭

[glass sluice]

it was ablrecht in a moustache. and fake beard

[fast dew]

Albrecht has a beard 😭

[restive river]

Albrecht has a clothing brand
Albrecht had a substantial presence in Hollvania

[strange plinth]

at least we hope no relation /s

[glass sluice]

yeah but this was one of those groucho mask getups

https://tenor.com/view/groucho-marx-funny-gif-7762537710826671263

[fast dew]

He has a store i dont think it was a brand?

[strange turtle]

He’s a very… not smart man whose knowledge of biology went as far as DNA being a thing that existed and could be found in hairs

[glass sluice]

a good disguise, i think you'll agree

[fast dew]

It is. I can see it

Or. He like. Dyed his hair

[restive river]

Yeah it’s a store, but he still has a connection to clothes and again had a substantial presence

[fast dew]

That day he learned black box dye does not come out easy

[glass sluice]

i can confirm that dyeing is brutal when it goes wrong

[strange turtle]

Nonono. He must’ve had one of those little, discount berets they wore in like victorian times

[restive river]

We know Albrecht did in fact work with Scaldra, if you wanted to force a connection to the boys and him

[strange turtle]

The perfect disguise

[fast dew]

Oh ducky don't tell them he worked with the fascists

Thats not helping

[restive river]

But he
He did
He did do that lol

[restive lantern]

God I hope we send him into the void without a suit 😭

[restive river]

“Necessary evil” aah

[fast dew]

If i was to bring up a irl case that could explain it

[restive lantern]

You gotta ignore the things you don't like about your blorbo apparently

[strange plinth]

what did he even do w/ the scaldra, is that ever explained?

[fast dew]

Id need to remember the name

[glass sluice]

fake moustache

[restive river]

Nope!

[fast dew]

No its. The comic and I think it was just contact with Neci

[restive river]

He may have helped with Efervon but eeeh

[strange plinth]

awesome

[glass sluice]

do not, and i repeat. do not say her name like that and facist in the same sentence. Save yourself.

[fast dew]

Which is probably why he got ganked in the hex quest

[restive river]

He worked with them to a extent, the exacts are unknown

[restive river]

What

[strange turtle]

The kidnapping

[fast dew]

The scaldra do not like Albrecht so its like. Brother they want to kill you why are you working with them

[restive river]

Wally?

[fast dew]

Im sayin that Albrecht being kidnapped probably had something to do with his correspondence with Rulsalka

[restive river]

They don’t like him cause their leader doesn’t like him, the leader who is possessed

[fast dew]

Given. Its her wally gets

[restive river]

Wally wanted him

[fast dew]

Yeah, and im saying it was probably easier with the body of Neci, given he does talk to her

[restive river]

Yeah? He was piloting her body and thus had command over a military lol

[restive lantern]

Honestly it's kinda really funny to think about all the things Albert SWEARS he's gotta do. Like no you dont understand I have to go to the 90s and own a clothing store and become a prominent name so much so that my face is maybe on a boy band shirt. Clearly it's for the Greater Good and I am v rational

[fast dew]

Yeah and a military doesn't mean much when bro can apparently teleport

[restive river]

Its not a maybe

[fast dew]

I don't think he made the shirt lmao

I dont think he even made those posters

[restive river]

He was explictly trapped in 1999 cause of the loop 😭

[restive river]

He easily could have

He was spreading his “cure” for a reason

[fast dew]

He became a big figure purely from his vaccine stuff, i wouldn't be super surprised if he just gained a cult following

Accidentally I feel, he. Isnt really the guy who makes cults. He does join religions tho/j

[restive river]

Eh it depends on his plan
Which
We don’t know

[fast dew]

If it is something, he is improving