lore-discussion

[fast dew]

I do appreciate what she's trying to do, outside the game

[restive river]

I wish Marie’s skin was easier to fashionframe for too

[fast dew]

Yeah her channels were mucked for a while

[restive river]

At least Lyon’s story is interesting and Roathe gives the accurate Orokin experience

[fast dew]

Roathe does project a huge amount

[spice wedge]

Guys what happens if the drifter reject roathe devils deal.

[restive river]

I will say
It makes no sense for Drifter to even be able to get with Roathe, forgiving him is one thing but DATING AN OROKIN???
Nah that’s just Rebb wanting her pretty boy, which. Fair lmao

[fast dew]

Which makes it hard to tell if he's being legit or if he's just projecting

[restive river]

He doesn’t help you

[spice wedge]

In what exactly

[glass sluice]

See there's the thing, I'm still of the mind that Roathe should've talked to the Operator more than Drifter.
sure both aspects of the PC were present for the orokin earlier on, but the Operator being a war vet with PTSD fit it WAY more

[restive river]

In whatever you ask him for lol

[spice wedge]

good than he can stay in that church.

[restive river]

LOL

[fast dew]

"Oh yeah let's ignore the oppression and fear i faced on a day to day basis for most of my childhood because pretty bad boy "owokwin :333" is here". Insert tired cat emoji i always use

[glass sluice]

none of the Triad felt like they should've been a romance,

[spice wedge]

Ok time to make roathe suffer the weekly runs steel path edition.

[strange plinth]

fass (shown a few seconds earlier), netra, ???, lohk, vome, xata, jahu

[spice wedge]

[restive river]

Requiem not found, please restart Void.exe

[fast dew]

Tis another question for Albrecht it serms

[midnight ice]

they feel like their own thing and the romance feels shoehorned in

[restive river]

They really don’t

[midnight ice]

hell, all of the romances with all of the protos feel a bit shoehorned in

[dire mountain]

The triad are only romanceable because people were upset the roundtable wasn't

[fast dew]

I fully think the triad shoudlve been in shadowgrapher

[restive river]

The problem with the Triad is also they shoehorned them into the update so they became a requirement rather than something they could hold back til it was ready

[restive river]

And so Rebb can have her pretty boy Orokin
And so people will buy Marie’s skin

[fast dew]

And for lyon to be a nothing burger

But he's my nothing burger

[dire mountain]

Yeah the hex were novel and interesting

[restive river]

No he’s got the most substance lmao

[dire mountain]

The round table gave even more to the world they've made

The triad are. Fine.

[fast dew]

He does! Just. Some of that substance we have known already 😭

[restive river]

Not on the romance end but Lyon has the most personality of the Triad with provably the most intriguing story of the three

[dire mountain]

Roathe has some cool lore, lyon has even less

[restive river]

It takes what we knew and did something neat

[fast dew]

Obligatory third member BUT he is the best member

[dire mountain]

And Marie doesn't really have any cool lore to add that I remember

[restive river]

Roathe is a loredump which is always nice and Marie is “albrecht is gray” which I feel like we didn’t need lol

[fast dew]

Other than being fatherless

[midnight ice]

the only thing thatll let me forgive DE for making lyon 90% a nothingburger is the ability to put on regular wf helmets on him

[fast dew]

We need it. We need it desperately 😭

[restive river]

Marie literally just exists to hammer home that Albrecht isn’t that bad but he still sucks

[fast dew]

Some people can't understand that ducky

[restive river]

Yeahh

[fast dew]

Which is why we need her 😭

[restive river]

Maybe she was a bit more necessary than I’d like to admit lol

[fast dew]

Shes just not placed in the best way she could've been to do that

I think you could like

[restive river]

I think her problem is she’s very surface level

[fast dew]

Swap her with a hex member

[dire mountain]

The main reason I engaged with the triad was loid

[fast dew]

Same

I tolerate shit for Loid

[restive river]

Her depth is literally she was poor cause her family were ableist and now she’s at a church
That’s it

[fast dew]

Yeah and thats

Fine and all, they did write it well

But hell

[glass sluice]

you can skip this week, it's truly, truly awful

[restive river]

That is the best part of her yeah

[restive river]

Wait what’s wrong with descendia this week

[fast dew]

BAJAJA

[glass sluice]

the rewards, my god the rewards

[restive river]

Realest shit

[fast dew]

Is Janus Vor on this week?

[restive river]

Uh oh

[restive river]

That can happen???

[glass sluice]

the final reward for a STEEL PATH DESCENDIA

[fast dew]

Mm, I heard it can?

[dire mountain]

Yeah

Descendia and the Calendar have opposite problems

[restive river]

Wait whats the problem I haven’t logged in 😭

[fast dew]

I also think the fragmented one can be there??

[dire mountain]

Descendia is fun but shit rewards.
Calendar has good rewards but so damn boring

[fast dew]

Most bosses actually

[glass sluice]

calendar is what I like to call "time to break out valk again", because she can handle literally every single challenge in one single mission each.

[dire mountain]

I use gara

Literally any melee exalted frame works tbh

Hell, I think garuda works with her talons

[glass sluice]

valk i just put on a podcast, influence on her claws, and then just zone out.
its a great time to catch up with some light housework too, its very AFK

and the final reward is so worthless, you dont even need to finish it!

[restive river]

I don’t think you need influence on her tbh

[midnight ice]

and his kim chat and his vm and his writing and his mechanic and the fact that he was featured in That ||Loid|| Cutscene and

[glass sluice]

kuva/ single arcane, lol

[dire mountain]

Roathe has his own game mode and boss fight and gulphagor and

[restive river]

His skin and voice are the most quality parts about him

[restive river]

Omg he does gulphagor

[glass sluice]

mine was so badly bugged out, that i got the|| loid ||cutscene via lyon/marie helping, then later Roathe agreed to help with ||loid. ||

[midnight ice]

and GULPHAGOR and voice actor and design and GULPHAGOR and weapons and

[dire mountain]

Roathe isn't the most earth shattering lore but it is great supplementary information on the orokin which i appreciate

[glass sluice]

the actual hell is a gulphagor?

[dire mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/gulphagor-warframe-critter-roathe-gif-18333798093997479598

The flying guy

[glass sluice]

that looks like an orokin experimentation on making a flying fleshlight

[dire mountain]

Roathe just says it funny

[restive river]

Gulphagor…

[fast dew]

No, dw im just dumb and cannot remember to separate janus from corrupted

[strange plinth]

the most recognizable of roathe's minions

[restive river]

Iirc that used to be a person!

[dire mountain]

Hey catenach is a little guy

[restive river]

Oh ok lol

[dire mountain]

And vythelas is??? A snake? A spine?

[glass sluice]

oh i forget they have names

[restive river]

Snake

[fast dew]

What's the lil guy

[glass sluice]

why do they bother having names?

you cant pick and choose

[fast dew]

The one that kinda looks like hes in a robe

[restive river]

Why not?

[dire mountain]

Same reason voruna's wolves have names

[fast dew]

Demons have names, its fun to use them

[dire mountain]

Same reason Javi has a name

[glass sluice]

why not name the void key that someone stuck on rhino's face? I like to think its a survival for ash's part.

[restive river]

Me when lore

[dire mountain]

Its the same reason Rikhail has a name

[strange plinth]

gulphagor has the tentacle mouth thing, the other two fit vaguely into "humanoid" in my brain
notably, i do not remember the other two's names most of the time

[restive river]

The void key ain’t alive

[glass sluice]

neither are vorunas dogs lol

[restive river]

Snake and lil goober

[restive river]

Yes they are what 😭

She literally grafted them onto her, they still move, they’re still alive

[fast dew]

There's like. A long ass video where roathe randomly says GULPHAGOR with roses of the abyss playing

[glass sluice]

then shes a bad dog mum

[restive river]

She’s literally doing the best she can

[glass sluice]

you cant tape your dogs to your shoulders forever. thats just not cool

[restive river]

She is literally the heart of the pack lol

[fast dew]

It also wasnt even her fault

[restive river]

Its that or death so

[glass sluice]

id rather be dead that be a tumour on someones shoulder forever

[fast dew]

People when Infestation does Infestation shit

[restive river]

Dagath’s horse is dead however but it having a name is specifically vital to her story

Names have power and names are fun

[restive river]

They don’t seem to mind

[fast dew]

They seem to be able to move off and play

[restive river]

Yeah

[glass sluice]

theyre dogs, they could be screaming in pain and you wouldnt know because they cant make a sad face.

[strange plinth]

^ one of them flies off and bites the other shoulder's in one idle

[restive river]

They literally play

[glass sluice]

sure "play"

[fast dew]

Dogs. will let you know if they're in pain

[restive river]

:p

[glass sluice]

not if you cut their heads off and tape them to your shoulder

[fast dew]

What you're thinking of are prey animals that hide it

Which dogs aren't

[restive river]

How do you think they let you know

[dire mountain]

It's an act of both love and desperation.

Every living thing longs to be whole. Every living thing yearns to defy death. If from death you returned, yet the part you loved best did not... what then?

[restive river]

Ig whimpering doesn’t exist anymore

[glass sluice]

we have to get space RSPCA on to voruna

[fast dew]

Barking, yelping, whining

[unborn cosmos]

so there are three ways of choosing lotus's name at the end of the new war right

natah, lotus and margulis

[fast dew]

Dogs will always let you know, along with visual and psychological cues

[restive river]

You’re choosing which personality leads the other two, all of them will still exist

[dire mountain]

Like it's maybe strange but I don't not get it.

[restive river]

You can also change her visually afterward but the name, who’s in charge is forever

[glass sluice]

and you can change her appearance later, just the name sticks AFAIK

[fast dew]

Generally choosing Margulis is the worst one

[midnight ice]

i thought "oh thats so cute wtf?" and went out to find it, its rifle noble https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JMqUtc2c9i0

[restive river]

Well not really if you wanted to have her lead with compassion

[glass sluice]

there are points for all 3, but the story seems to want you to focus on Lotus

[restive river]

She’s picking which identity leads, they all still exist within her

[fast dew]

True, but its generally looked down upon, yk?

[dire mountain]

Sorry I love sigor savah and VK-7

[restive river]

I mean she is kinda like
The best option?
Balance > excess

[fast dew]

Mhm

[glass sluice]

oh i 100% agree that lotus is who she wanted to become, thats the person she chose to be.
the other 2 felt weird.

[fast dew]

Along with the whole. She chose to be the lotus

[restive river]

Yeah cause the skin itself but I can see wanting her to lead with compassion lol
Part of the issue is also there isn’t an emotional tie to Margulis as a character so that adds onto people picking her for the skin and not for her

[fast dew]

Smthn smthn self identity ect ect

[restive river]

Chose to lead

[glass sluice]

but all 3 do have points you can kinda see, which is the sign of a good non-specific player choice

[unborn cosmos]

and wally wears lotus's helmet in chimera (their only appearance before new war afaik)

[dire mountain]

Its also like, she isn't margulis (who Ballas wanted her to become) and she isn't Natah (who Hunhow wanted her to remain)

[restive river]

She became Lotus but all 3 exist still

[glass sluice]

if you say that again, you get a prize. I KNOW

[restive river]

It’s an important distinction!

[fast dew]

Wow thats kinda hostile

[dire mountain]

Shes the secret third thing

[fast dew]

TRANS /j

[strange plinth]

mm, indeed

[fast dew]

-# this is the joke on how you can see her story as a trans allegory

[glass sluice]

yeah i mean, the trans parallels for lotus in new war are pretty strong.

i know basically nothing about the experience of all that stuff, so this is coming from mostly a trans friend who got into WF at my threatening encouragement

[midnight ice]

amab is assigned margulis at birth

[restive river]

Oh trust me, it’s STRONG

[restive river]

anab
assigned natah at birth

[fast dew]

Its strong enough to hit you over the head and keep you out

[unborn cosmos]

Lotus is literally Natah who didn't do the final step (kill the Tenno) and in fact did the opposite

[glass sluice]

im what i like to refer to as a "boomer gay", i didnt even come out until way later.
so basically any of the slang terms are something i either had to guess at through online posts, or just not know.
had never even heard of "AFAB" until like 2 years ago.

[unborn cosmos]

she cared for them

[fast dew]

Yeah but she chooses to not be natah

[midnight ice]

assigned frost at birth (2017 twitch prime promo)

[dire mountain]

The whole quest line from natah to the new war heavily has identity as a leading theme so it definitely comes with the territory

[unborn cosmos]

I literally just said that

[fast dew]

Im so sorry for your loss

[restive river]

That second dream quote is my status for a reason

[dire mountain]

Its evident enough that I could easily go "oh yeah I can see that" the first time I saw someone mention it

[dire mountain]

I still have that frost

[restive river]

Art is interpretive and this one’s easy to interpret

[glass sluice]

the strength at which im resisting posting the JK rowling quote here right now is strong, but just know that the sheer irony of it now is making it very hard.

[restive river]

I have a trinity prime from around then I think lol

[restive river]

I’m sending that woman to the deep void

[fast dew]

I unfortunately got AVAB [assigned Valkyr at birth from last year's tennocon I think] so im transitioning into Qorvex

[glass sluice]

i joined through no promo or anything, so im technically the unwanted tenno kid they left out on the step

[fast dew]

I only started playing again at tennocon

[dire mountain]

Oh no I didnt start playing because of the free frost I made a twitch account for him

[restive river]

I joined cause friends asked me to play
I did
They didnt help
I left
Came back cause new friends wanted me to play
Both of those friend groups are gone and I’m still here vibing

[fast dew]

I started before the hex came out

[fast dew]

I joined cuz a nurse i liked said i should

She was cool

[restive river]

I literally got a frost prime cause he was the meta and they wanted me to play him just for that lol

[glass sluice]

unless you count me still having my very first Kubrow from 2014.
in that case, im a 12 year dog mum!

[restive river]

Awww

[glass sluice]

Still love my prowy

[fast dew]

Oh yeah, is there any way to get Arthur's sword skin? I do have it but I don't know if you can anymore

[dire mountain]

Isnt it just from the quest now

[fast dew]

Balls

[dire mountain]

I remember seeing that in endy's playthrough

[fast dew]

Cus i got it from the demo 😭

[glass sluice]

quest or quincy, he sells a bunch of random crap

[restive river]

Oh fun fact
Your “default” frame is your first ever frame, or whichever is the oldest that you still own!

[dire mountain]

Yeah mine is excalibur

[glass sluice]

i do enjoy that every time i talk to quincy, he's like "buy something" and i own literally everything.
I think he needs to use more padding on that sniper./

[fast dew]

The excal i put in the wall? Yeah

[dire mountain]

I could never sell my day one

[strange plinth]

yea i think its just the quest completion now, pretty sure i saw a friend get the skin right after completing it

[restive river]

I fed my og volt to helminth (never been much of a volt girly) and now my default is Trinity Prime

[glass sluice]

my OG excal!

[restive river]

I could purely cause I am not farming Volt and I needed shock for a build

Plus I connect with Trinity more anyway lol

[fast dew]

How do you even get volt i forgor

[dire mountain]

Dojo

[glass sluice]

finger in a wall socket

[fast dew]

I don't. Really identify with any frame

[restive river]

Wait fr

[fast dew]

I wish I could

[dire mountain]

Yeah 😭

[restive river]

He’s dojo easy LMAO

[strange plinth]

yea volt's a dojo frame for some reason

[glass sluice]

oh im a banshee main through and through, mesa is also my girl, but banshee

[restive river]

I did not need to feed him to helminth LMAO

[glass sluice]

zeph' gets points too for being my first hardcore grind

[fast dew]

I can say that Qorvex and grendel are transition goals but I dont exactly identify with em

[dire mountain]

Hey volt took me forever to get because I needed a shit ton of mutagen masses and detonite and fieldron and a dojo as a new player sucks

[restive river]

I’ll always be a Xaku girly
They are in my opinion one of the perfect frames

[fast dew]

Tbf theres not much to identify with, when it comes to them

[fast dew]

Xaku is so neat

I think. Temple would be the closest I identify with even then its not really there

Curse of not having a trans man in warframe yet

Other than technically hunhow

[unborn cosmos]

the back pain picture will always be in my mind

(until I forget about it ofc)

[opaque zenith]

"To the receptive mind All things come in time" or smt

[fast dew]

I will wait, because its only a matter of time, but I do wait anxiously. Because sometimes people just suck ass at writing trans men

[opaque zenith]

Fair, but also there's Cy VA for "realness measure" in DE's company, so I'm personally optimistic

[dark compass]

Wdym?

[fast dew]

Aren't they transfemme? Unfortunately it is a seperate issue
-# smthn smthn transfemme/women face hypervisbility and transmasc/men face hyperinvisibility

[opaque zenith]

It's a strech yes, but my though process is a comparison with the case that Flare wasn't missrepresented as far as I know

[dark compass]

"it's a stretch" bold of you to assume I actually understood you in the first place

[opaque zenith]

And I see now I put all in one "trans box", that's my mistake sry

[dark compass]

Oh I get it now

What can I say other than

Good for her (Cy)

[opaque zenith]

I though "there's a trans to call them out" and called it a day, and was wrong in that though process

[fast dew]

I mean, i dont blame yoi

If you're not trans you wont know of these issues

And I aint calling DE transphobic, but I do feel as if this hyperinvisibility transmen/mascs face has happened once again, though, with Flare they did do a good job with making a masc enby

[dark compass]

My new masc enby icon is Pocket from Deadlock

[restive lantern]

Everytime Im about to play a main quest, I am like surely, this time I will understand everything. Only to always have way more questions 😭
I have a lore question for the kind people in chat willing to explain to me ❤️
Old Peace spoilers:
So with || Adis, the graduation ceremony, does every tenno in this time have a Sentient companion training with them? Or is Adis special for reason? It seemed definitely like also a bonding thing as well ||

[fast dew]

Oh?

[dark compass]

I love them, absolutely great

[fast dew]

Mm, fair I can see the appeal

[dark compass]

The silhouette in-game is stellar

Valve doesn't miss with visuals

[fast dew]

This is a personal thing for me but if they do a design like that for a trans man I might explode someone

We don't have enough. Trans masc/men in games that are like. "Oh my god that looks like kratos what do you mean they used to be a little girl who played shopkeeper???"

[restive lantern]

Okay they look fresh as hell lol I love it

[dark compass]

The suitcase has magic frogs in it

[restive lantern]

MAGIC FROGS?!

[opaque zenith]

SUITCASE?!

[restive lantern]

OH MY GOD ITS HUGE 😭

[dark compass]

You can hide in the suitcase as well, as one of the abilities

Absolutely amazing design

[restive lantern]

That's so good 😭 I love their designs so much, Pocket is such a good name for them

[opaque zenith]

but, can you trow it?

[fast dew]

All ive seen of this game is like

That REM fella

[dark compass]

You can

1. use it as a melee weapon
2. use it as a board for sliding
3. use it as a magic projectile launcher
4. summon an army of small frogs out of it
5. latch onto railings with a big frog out of it
6. hide inside of it

[restive lantern]

You're making me want to play this game fr 😭

[opaque zenith]

Peak, whislisting rn

[dark compass]

Valve made one of the coolest and most visually appealing games ever

But it's a moba/hero shooter hybrid

[dark compass]

There are so many godlike character designs, geniunely

[restive lantern]

True, The Orange Box used to be one of my favorite things as a kid. When I saw the half life standee in 1999 I got so excited 😭😭😭

[dark compass]

Game is still in deep development and is in closed beta with invites

Like half the characters and environments are unfinished

But it's already working out extremely well and has like 100k players stable

Rebb played it on stream

[midnight ice]

i love long boxy silhouettes! like this dude i like to draw once in a while (spoilered, for, well, ooc)

[midnight ice]

valve burns infinite money on making a good game and it turns out to be a pretty good game

[restive lantern]

That's so exciting tho lol

[restive lantern]

Wow this art is really good 😭

[dark compass]

They dodged a nuke

With what was planned originally

[midnight ice]

thank you 😭 havent drawn in a while now, though im planning to make stuff for warframe one day

[midnight ice]

oh? what was planned?

[dark compass]

They originally wanted it to be a stereotypical cyberpunk-ish sci-fi setting

[fast dew]

Do you, by any chance, like will wood?

[dark compass]

Extremely bland and unoriginal

[midnight ice]

oof

[midnight ice]

absolutely clocked

[dark compass]

Dynamo was a sumo fighter with a super stereotypical look... Named Sumo

[fast dew]

[restive lantern]

Evil

[midnight ice]

the cyberpunk scifi setting is a bit oversaturated imo. thank god fortuna came out before i got sick of it

[fast dew]

I know too many queer folk who love long coats that like will wood for me not to

I also sense you probably would like the magnus archives

[midnight ice]

aware of it, and my partner is into it, but i havent had the time to properly sit down and listen to it

[dark compass]

Now he's professor Dynamo. A soul possessing a robot who loves his wife very much

[midnight ice]

honestly, wonder what warframe couldve been if they still went with the old 2014 slower game design

[dark compass]

You can even spot a wedding ring on one of his fingers

[restive lantern]

😭😭😭 he loves his wife, that's so sweet

[fast dew]

I think it would be nice, obviously wouldnt feel much like current day warframe

[dark compass]

I feel like half the playerbase came from character interactions uploaded on youtube

Because the writing is honestly also incredible

[fast dew]

Though, if it was literally everything the same but the movement, id probably still play it

[dark compass]

So is voice acting

[fast dew]

But, speaking of old warframe

[opaque zenith]

Naga drums would be a spy mission

[midnight ice]

i will forwver love the anecdote that they hired a theatre kid to voice Doorman and it came out STELLAR

[dark compass]

He definitely looks like a guy voiced by a theater kid

[fast dew]

If i see another person try to insist that Cyte-09 is somehow a ninja because of that stupid ass marketing slogan they NEVER use anymore, ill lose my mind

[midnight ice]

yeah, Jerma

[opaque zenith]

NInja with a gun

[dark compass]

They also got the guy who voiced Silco in Arcane to voice Victor

Waiting for Neil Newbon to arrive to this game as well

[fast dew]

His shit isnt even based anything close to a ninja it makes me so mad when people try to say it is

[opaque zenith]

* It's a fish (again) in a mech suit *

[fast dew]

Is his alt helm not like. A beret??? Which iirc is a European thing???

[dark compass]

Matt Mercer voicing a literal vampire murderhobo was an inspired choice as well

[dark compass]

Yeah

His design is very old though

[fast dew]

WHICH REINFORFES THE IDEA MORE

[dark compass]

I think Cyte is like

A 2018-2019 design

Initially meant for Lavos

[fast dew]

They dropped the whole. Space ninja shit around 2017, from memory

[midnight ice]

i still hear ninjas play free up until roughly around rj

2019, 2020s?

[midnight ice]

ooo i can see the same crowding details

whoever sculpted lavos and cyte really likes Texture

[restive lantern]

No they still use it

I saw it like recently

[midnight ice]

zamn 😭

[fast dew]

Eh? Old ad reused or...? Because last time i saw it was old shit

[dark compass]

Yeah they had this idea of an "alchemist warframe", and the design going around was Cyte

They shelved it for an unknown reason and we got Lavos

Who also got through a lot of design changes

Especially in his... body type

[opaque zenith]

tbf, what would they say? Traumatised child-soldiers play free?

[dark compass]

Twinkvos, gone but not forgotten

He kept the heels though

[midnight ice]

im glad they made him work out until he got a little chunk. twinkvos just looks wrong

[restive lantern]

Infected cyborg space freaks (quincys words) play free 😭

[dark compass]

Space traumas play free

[dark compass]

His story as a prison warden definitely needed that

[opaque zenith]

All that alchemy to make free beer and stay twink? I acept eternalism but where's my immersion on that?

[dark compass]

His deluxe happened so

Everyone wins in the end

[midnight ice]

would you drink the lavos chest juice

[dark compass]

Don't say it like that

[drowsy saddle]

Bloody hell I've been playing too much honse game, i thought that was Tachyon

[restive lantern]

You know I find the negative obsession with Follie to be wild, because when you do look at a lot of the masc/nonbinary frames, they actually all have quite different and vast body types

[restive lantern]

What would it taste like

[midnight ice]

i think about it every time i run grendel

[drowsy saddle]

Baja blast

[midnight ice]

like what is the deal... 😭 theres a 800-reply forum thread still ongoing about how follie being fat is weird because when a woman isnt thin and slight or memeably masc its..... bad....

[dark compass]

I think someone made a cosplay

[midnight ice]

10 corrosive stacks

[drowsy saddle]

I'd bet 10p that these people have bbw has their favorite tag

[fast dew]

Yeah its called misogynist asshats incapable of understanding how female bodies work

[restive lantern]

Baja blast? Then hell yess lmfao it looks like it would be sour energy drink to me. But I also feel like imagine: pickle juice

[opaque zenith]

Loud minority, I'd have like, 3-5 pennies for all times that happened

[dark compass]

I only managed to find this video

[midnight ice]

putting a tap in his chest and pouring a little out every time i have a hangover

[drowsy saddle]

Vial rush the octoberfest to beer everyone

[restive lantern]

This genuinely is so pure 😭😭😭

[dark compass]

Lavos infuses alcohol

[midnight ice]

oh god its at 900

i swear it was 812 this weekend

[drowsy saddle]

I just pray follie's alt helm is neat

[strange plinth]

..what the hell are they talking about

[fast dew]

People seem to think. Artist = thin for some reason

[opaque zenith]

Holy keyboard war! Can it get to Valkyr levels tho?

[fast dew]

They act as if they know the lore already

[drowsy saddle]

Who to commission for more follie art

[restive lantern]

Literally it's either she's fat and it's weird or she's fat and it's hot and I'm gonna be gooner about it 😭😭😭 I wish queen could just be fat 🥲 someone's excuse was like "well fat men are stronger than fat women so it's unrealistic" - as if this game is hyper realistic 😭😭😭

[fast dew]

Meeee/j

No dont if you commission me for any warframe specific art i will explode you

[drowsy saddle]

Also the orokin accepted being thicc as beauty too, karrish is right there

[fast dew]

I dont draw them for a reason 💔

[restive lantern]

Obviously you need canon reason for your body to exist

[dark compass]

Can you make-

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-loser-tiny-kitten-explode-gif-15623895175038521381

Follie is just full of ink

[fast dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952946035733438575/1461285583681753251/explode-1768467993232.gif

[dark compass]

How hard is it to understand, it's literally dripping out of her body in chunks

[restive lantern]

Interesting there's not 1000+ reply forum post about these guards lol

[fast dew]

Follie is apparently based on a sad clown and as we know, thats a body shape clowns share
-# source? My drama teacher was a clown!!!

[strange plinth]

not a playable character so no one cares
-# that might seem rude, not my intention. trying to go along with what you said

[drowsy saddle]

How long after her release will we see someone paint it white?

[fast dew]

They specifically make their clothes seem like that because of the appearance of being friendly or silly

[drowsy saddle]

Quirky even

[opaque zenith]

3 secs for the button presses, take it or leave it

[dark compass]

Like 3 more to buy her with plat first

[drowsy saddle]

500 reddit points

[fast dew]

I love clowns

[drowsy saddle]

If a white ink follie isn't top of warframe reddit, ima be big sadge

[fast dew]

I love clowns clowns are so cool

[midnight ice]

not a woman so nobody cares 🤡 because women have to be um. pretty and thin and have valkyr heirlooms body type or dagaths chest

im still a bit miffed about dagaths chest whats up with that

[dark compass]

They're...they're all women

[fast dew]

I might be too woke but the sexualisation of Dagath always makes me a lil sad

[midnight ice]

is Doom procs stored in the badonkers?

[midnight ice]

oh my god TIL

my bad everybody throw tomatoes at me now

[fast dew]

Like. Was she not specifically a intimacy slave

[dark compass]

She pretty much was

[drowsy saddle]

She's a dax, slavery is guranteed, what kind is the real question

[opaque zenith]

Hear me out on the fashion speedruning strat, have an fashion link ready, buy from arsenal for time saving and -

[dark compass]

Well they made the warframe out of her purely for the sake of intimacy

[drowsy saddle]

For the infestussy

[restive lantern]

Dats such a sus thing to say 😭

[drowsy saddle]

Its orokin, its going to be sus

[dark compass]

Even worse, when they realized it's not as taboo as having a normal dax

That's when they blasted her face and literally thrown her in the trash

[drowsy saddle]

Tbf, her smile is creepy

[fast dew]

Mhm

[strange plinth]

that doesn't justify it lmao

[drowsy saddle]

That's like, the one mulligan I'll give the orokin

The reaction isn't, definitely, but i agree her smile ain't it chief

[fast dew]

I. Now feel as if i need to explain the difference between what Albrecht and Loid had and the two orokin and dagath [warframe] had
-# I worry about people not realising the difference

[drowsy saddle]

Albrecht had genuine love and affection?

[fast dew]

Some people don't. See that

Some folk think he's just using loid and its

Mildly insulting to most of the story

[restive lantern]

affection? Rarely it seems lol

[strange plinth]

hm
dagath being able to kill those orokin is actually a point towards umbra being transference-controlled by ballas during the sacrifice to stop umbra from harming him
-# unless i'm being stupid and forgetting something big

[drowsy saddle]

Blinder than Margulis

I sentence thee to reading 50 doomed yaoi mangas

[fast dew]

Transference bolt

[drowsy saddle]

Dagath lost her control bolt

Due to... Ya know... Laser to the face

[fast dew]

I dont know what they mean by not affectionate. Like. Do they want Albrecht to be all over Loid 24/7??

Its a normal amount of affection imo

[drowsy saddle]

12 hour albrecht and loid coitus scene is what they want

[fast dew]

Honestly I genuinely cant even imagine Albrecht doing that shit, despite the existence of Euleria

[restive lantern]

Or it's listening to loid say that 😭

[fast dew]

Like. That mf was a test tube baby

I cannot imagine it

[restive lantern]

I don't think anyone wants that lol

[strange plinth]

both dagath and umbra were confirmed dax-turned-warframe
dax aren't able to harm the orokin due to whatever kuva thing goes on with them, yet dagath was able to, and umbra was stopped

[midnight ice]

6th cavia rank up scene where we slowly brush off the sand and slowly, with dawning horror, realize that its an hd image of albrecht and loid coitus

[fast dew]

Dax can't disobey kuva holders....? Maybe they didn't have enough Kuva

[midnight ice]

and the sand isnt coming back

[opaque zenith]

I draw the line at 11:59, too much dragging after that

[midnight ice]

maybe dagath is haunted and she could do it because evil ghosts in her bones

the horse made her do it

[strange plinth]

indirectly, yea

[restive lantern]

This is my truth

[fast dew]

I mean i certainly wouldnt be upset it would jist be interesting how they would've handled it, i jist. Physically cannot imagine shit like that

Is it probably trauma? Yeah probably

[strange plinth]

kuva holders and orokin
reinforced in old peace, when they can't disobey or harm the orokin directly as per operator/adis dialogue

[fast dew]

But its funny to think that Euleria was a toob child

[fast dew]

Maybe she like. Pushed a rock onto em

Or made them off themselves????

That worked in doom the dark ages so surely it would work there

[strange plinth]

-# "I doubt I need to tell you what faceless thing clambered jerkily from the facility's waste disposal heap, in the still of a Naberus night. How she sought for her Dax Nikana, and found only the overseer's whip-blade. Confused, vacant, she wandered. Why was she alone? Where was her loyal Rakhali? She reached deep into despair and memory, and summoned up a ghost-horse to run alongside her on the night winds. Now, at least, she was no longer alone. She groped for other memories, came up with hands overflowing with betrayal. When the morning sun rose on Corphel and Irilia, they were faceless too, and quite still."
sounds like she butchered them with the whip-blade

[drowsy saddle]

Was about to say, Euleria's real mom was a glass tube in the sanctum

[drowsy saddle]

She didn't mean to kill em, they just walked into the way of her cavalry charge

[midnight ice]

can you go against the kuva if its a series of like rube goldberg nonsense

like dagath kicks a rock that ends up on thr way of a speeding carriage that veers off road and smashes through the orokins living room

[restive lantern]

That's so Tenshin coded

[opaque zenith]

She trowned some uranium(radioactive) in their bed

[fast dew]

The same one Albrecht hides in the cars he stole in?

[midnight ice]

hmm if i make the tenno kill the queens through a series of unfortunate events its not going against their no-kill force field

[opaque zenith]

You can reprogram a sentient and just order directly to kill an orokin, so it's kind of easy to workaround

[midnight ice]

sentient rube goldberg machine that ends up in a comically large piano slamming down the orokins head

[opaque zenith]

Now that I think about it, the anarchs could just train kubrows or hire assassins. But i suppose the latter were all contracted by the orokin already

[dark compass]

Mfw my perita opponent is a stealth kubrow caliban prime

[ocean geyser]

I wonder how many people came to the conclusion that Warframes were made using the Infestation before the Sacrifice came out

Given the uh
Various instances of “WE ARE YOUR FLESH”

[midnight ice]

i was in the wf oc roleplay scene before the sacrifice came out, its definitely a common headcanon that the frames are monsters

[drowsy saddle]

Rhino canonically ate people

And not in the robin hood way grendel did

[midnight ice]

oh yeah, the imprint

[drowsy saddle]

He hungry

[loud oriole]

I'm getting flashbacks to the photo of rhino heirloom with the caption: "POV: you're a pancake"

[limber hull]

Maybe i forgot but, where Is The finger?
Like the original one, where Is it?

[tall echo]

We don't know

[silk atlas]

"locked away"

[strange turtle]

I just figured it was like, in general. Like the focus not being on that there was something “blinding” her, but that she couldn’t see something in/about Rell, since it’s from his cult’s perspective

[strange turtle]

Also just deadass being able to guide him down the Villain path, let alone being content with him even coming to the conclusion he does

[strange turtle]

Grandmother phrases things as if it was just a normal/willing relationship (as much as a subordinate/superior one can be) and doesn’t really address the “Dax can’t disobey” bit and it’s implications for the relationship (also the fact that they asked Dagath to not name it, though that could arguably be a control thing/test), which makes me think that at the very least she was intended to have agency in it (by an Orokin’s standards at least)

Whether she herself would feel like she had it is a different matter though

[glass sluice]

Is the one on the Zariman not the real one? I assumed it was left on that ship and that's why it's all voidy still.

[strange turtle]

Its not

[tall echo]

Very explicitly isn't

[glass sluice]

Thank you for the detailed reply.

[tall echo]

I was about to give an explaining quote but now I don't want to

[strange turtle]

IIRC Yonta has a line talking about it, and then Wally’s looking for the original/information on it’s location in Isleweaver

[glass sluice]

Thanks Rodney, I appreciate the more detail.

[tall echo]

What did I do to piss you off?

[glass sluice]

I dislike people who act like that.
All you needed to do was just say "it's not the one", or actually added more detail to the message.
Instead your reply came across as an "Oh you don't know?". It's not the first time I've seen replies like that from certain people here, and I really don't care for how some of the people treat others in this channel.

[tall echo]

Yonta's quote is "As long as the originals are safely locked away" btw

[tall echo]

Way to misinterpret my message then

[restive lantern]

Pp are for reals so needlessly hostile in the lore chats 😭

[tall echo]

I cut myself short to be quicker, tends to cause very blunt wording

[glass sluice]

Next time maybe just emote react then.

a simple thumbs up or down is fine.

[tall echo]

That gets misinterpreted even more often in my experience

[glass sluice]

I'm fine with waiting for a reply to a message, there's over 300k people in this server, it can take a second.

[glass sluice]

I'm honestly not surprised, another big server I'm in has a lore channel like that, but the mods are on top of the hostility.
At least this place has the benefit of less RP'ers. Imagine this place like it is, but people angrily and very realistically wishing death on certain factions in .... specific methods.
This place is basically happy in comparison.

[lean garden]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-robinson-what-are-you-talking-about-itysl-i-think-you-shoul-gif-27028245

where did you come from

that has such horrors

[glass sluice]

Division 2 server, yes it's alive.

it's mostly cool, honestly.

[lean garden]

Oh div 2 itself is still alive?

[glass sluice]

oh 100%, div3 is even in production, and the 2nd game is about to enter its 7th year.

[opaque zenith]

"It's not thaaaat hard to explain the lore, tho"

[tall echo]

Old habits die hard, but I'm trying

[glass sluice]

its all g, i couldve responded better, but this place is starting to make me edgy in the same way that twitter used to before i left.

[tall echo]

But yeah thanks to yonta we know that 1. The zariman finger is another copy and 2. There's multiple originals

[glass sluice]

the multiple originals i 100% buy

you know ive been going through a kim reset (slow this time, finally clicked on the "play all conversations"), since I'm about to finalise the last of the MR options, and it's really solidified how weirdly some of the conversations are written

[tall echo]

For a while the common idea was that it's one original, though it makes sense to be multiple considering albrecht saying "its reaching digits"

[glass sluice]

i mean, its the void. I just assume everything is kinda split, even the stuff we've seen in the void during quests has shown multiple copies of stuff.

re kim though:
just went through one with lettie, talking about how we've both seen suffering, then out of the blue she tells me how she wants to make me suffer, and my drifter has no option to tell arther and get her put on watch.

i know that it's about her kink and how she uses it as a mental distraction and all, but it was such a rapid tonal shift that I felt like i was punched through the screen.

the only way to turn her down is say "i want to be friends/dont see you like that", and i feel that is really not a strong enough wording for the situation.

I guess what I'm saying in that long-ass post is: the weird fanfic kink writing didnt start with Roathe.

[woven coyote]

Man i remember when i would tell people about albrecht saying "digits" as in plural but people would just tell me nuh uh or typo

Was very nice when yonta came out and said originals

[storm garden]

Do you suppose the Protoframes are aware they're in the future when we use the Gemini skins?

[restive river]

Yeah

[pale cedar]

They accounted for it

Also pretty sure they mention it a few times but I don’t own all skins to test it

[vast willow]

It'd be pretty freaky to see Dagath with her "smiling" doll-face

Kinda glad they lasered it out

[glass sluice]

that looks familiar, are you sure it's required to own a protoframe skin? I own none.

[pale cedar]

To get the message it isn’t but you need a skin to hear mission dialogue from Protos

[midnight ice]

how are they gonna figure out Dagath Prime..

[pale cedar]

Just stick gold on a copy

[glass sluice]

Well yeah lol, I'm only curious about the KIM bit.

[glass sluice]

same way they made valkyr prime look like she did.

[midnight ice]

put it all back on?

or re-torture, idr

[glass sluice]

I was more thinking of the tail lol.

It's always bothered me that her Prime doesn't have the tail, but it's for sure a mix of consistency for people who didn't own the skin, and tech at the time with the tail and clipping/etc.

[midnight ice]

ah! hmm

[tall echo]

tbf valkyr prime shouldn't even be called that

[vast willow]

Maybe Dagath Prime fell in the void and is forced to relive what happened to every other Dagath and got her face lasered out there

That could be a nice quest to give noobs their first Prime warframe (Excal Umbra doesn't count)

[glass sluice]

I don't think "valkitty prime" was going to be accepted by the Orokin as an official name.

[tall echo]

I mean valkyr isn't her original name

it's gersemi

[midnight ice]

"widdle kitty!" was also found amongst the rejected name candidates

[glass sluice]

yes that was what my whole comment was about

[tall echo]

[glass sluice]

Although, her description does describe her name throughout as "Valkyr" and Gersemi more as a name for that form, so I always saw it as a sort of weird extra name for her.
Like if there was an Excal Jeffrey that just no one talks about anymore.

I guess it's sort of like an Immortal Skin, an option for a Valkyr Warframe.

oh gods, now im picturing a tenno with just the douchiest looking outfit on, bragging that her Valkyr has spinning rims.

[north jolt]

I mean it COULD be as simple as just making a primed version of Dagath (post getting donuted) to "honor" and "commemorate" her legend and legacy

Or the other way around, Prime came first, got donuted then the base versions came after

[dark compass]

That's excalibur umbra

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[strong creek]

Who had it worse going through the infection process, the Uriels or Umbra?

[rose estuary]

Probably umbra idk

[restive river]

Who had it worse, one guy who was forced to be a frame and kill his son or an entire army forced to be frames

[ocean geyser]

Cy’s VA is transfem?????
So what you’re telling me is we could theoretically get Cy voicelines with woman voice

[thorny stone]

now i have no bloody clue cuz ballas is so STUPENDOUSLY MORONIC THAT YOU CANT PICK WHATS WORSE ANYMORE.

i’m glad he’s dead tho

[strange turtle]

VA just starts coughing mid line before switching to woman voice and the only one who doesn’t take it in stride is a proto that just arrived or something

[ocean geyser]

Lmfao

Although the second half of that confuses my brain

[fleet furnace]

<@&778745217037238293>

[fierce sparrow]

Ayo?

[fleet furnace]

crypto scam

[dark compass]

We are getting Railjack content this year so

Who knows what'll happen

[strange turtle]

Wait when they’d confirm that?

[dark compass]

On a devstream iirc

Garuda lore, new Railjack content, Tau

Garuda lore got confirmed like 4 times

[strange turtle]

The only perspectives we get on gender stuff in Origin are people being chill about it because of how society seems to be, while Old Earth is a funhouse mirror AU of our Earth and would presumably have (especially with there being an equivalent to Ziggy Stardust) similar issues

[fast dew]

Its not exactly gender stuff, but Eleanor does mention that being with her breaks. A lot of laws..? Multiple types

So. There is some restriction

[humble sierra]

I think she was referring to laws of physics?

[tall echo]

Yes

[fast dew]

Iirc there was a mention of religion?

"Do you ever wonder how many laws we're breaking just by being together? Government laws, religious laws, laws of physics... (laughs) I love you."

No, so there was government restrictions 😭

[tall echo]

Oh

Huh

[fast dew]

Yeah so I guess there was something thats illegal for that relationship

Maybe its Eleanor's infested status?

[tall echo]

Or something about her journalism job

"No relationships so you stay unbiased" or smth

[potent raft]

So how did the acolytes follow us into 1999?

[glass sluice]

Eleanor saying that always did give me "canonical lesbian" vibes about her, she is definitely the most familiar feeling for it out of the 6.
I wouldn't be shocked if the person writing for her had some personal experience in queer relationships of some sort. It all felt very familiar.

It's almost certainly not the intention with that line, but made me love the KIM system that much more early on.

[fast dew]

She is canonically Bi actually, she had a girlfriend and a male fiance, at separate times but it's true

[glass sluice]

Oh 100% I know, but that actually helped make it even more real for me, since before I realised, I, well there was a time before I was sure.

that crush conversation on the goth lady is very much a real "first crush before you even know yourself" kinda thing.

[tall echo]

Non canon

[tall echo]

Eh, girlcrush not girlfriend

[glass sluice]

same with Jade Light then, I assume.

[midnight ice]

do we have a lore reason why Xata's whisper turns you infested 😭

[drowsy saddle]

Nah that's void juice

[midnight ice]

hell yeah

[potent raft]

man i never thought of that lmao

[burnt moss]

So what are drifters and operators exactly?

[spice wedge]

2 different timeliness.

2 different stories,but same goal.

Past and future

[burnt moss]

How can they use warframes?

[spice wedge]

They learned that in tenno school.

[strange plinth]

what quests have you done

[burnt moss]

Hmmmm

[burnt moss]

Everything

Ik what warframes are but why and how are the Tenno able to use them

[spice wedge]

Hm interesting question, even they could teleport to their warframe even they were in long distances.

Void powers

[coral mirage]

they literally show you how...

[tall echo]

Transference

[strange plinth]

ok, the tenno are kids with void powers. operator's one of them. the drifter is an alternate version of the operator that never got the void powers
they control the warframes through transference, projecting their mind into another body. exact process isn't known, but it requires either a dormant mind or a willing one to stay connected.
transference is not limited to the tenno (ballas during the sacrifice, silvana transferring into the silver grove), but it is easier for them

[burnt moss]

Dude

I’m asking because I forgot.

[coral mirage]

Basically the Force with another name

[strange plinth]

not really?

[coral mirage]

close enough though

[tall echo]

Not even remotely

[burnt moss]

So anyone can gain void powers to use transference?

[tall echo]

Theoretically

[burnt moss]

Interesting

[tall echo]

But in the same way as you could theoretically be a god

[burnt moss]

?

[coral mirage]

Space magic that allows you to literally traverse across the known fabric of space.
Capable of negating physical necessities
Allows you to gain an upper level of consciousness
Is able to rearrange matter, convince others and is naturally empathetic
You can use it to detect other people that wield space magic

[tall echo]

Virtually impossible

[strange plinth]

seems like void powers require a deal with the man in the wall, of which he's only given out one such deal, the one the 'chosen operator' took
at least, that's how the tenno got them
somatics are the tech that silvana used

[burnt moss]

I don’t understand

[burnt moss]

Ohhhh

[coral mirage]

is capable of changing bodies, traversing time, naturally able to necronautic journey

[burnt moss]

Okay okay now that makes sense

[tall echo]

1 yes
2 no
3 no
4 no
5 no

[burnt moss]

Kinda like the opm god

[tall echo]

No

[coral mirage]

all of that has been shown in both series...

[tall echo]

Wdym "series"

[strange plinth]

gonna need sources for this side of that
because i've not seen our void powers do any but the first

[burnt moss]

So ballas made a deal with the man in the wall

[tall echo]

The source is the ol' senator armstrong special

[tall echo]

No, our player character did

[spice wedge]

How and when.

[burnt moss]

Wait nvm

[spice wedge]

[woven coyote]

my headcannon for that is that the extra void scares the infestation from inside the shell

[midnight ice]

lol allergic reaction

you hear a small "eek!" when you activate xatas

[humble sierra]

1 yes
2 not really, we don't know if the operators don't age because of their powers or if there wasn't enough time outside of cryosleep for them to visibly age, but they still seem to need to eat
3 The Cavia?
4 Duviri?
5 nothing I can remember

[fast dew]

1. Yes? So does walking, thats also something that most people can do, i wouldnt count it as a similarity when most people can "traverse across the known fabric of space"

2. Do you mean the holdfasts? The holdfasts don't have our void powers. Its just conceptual embodiment. Which.. isnt void powers. If you mean us, we were asleep for however many years, we have physical needs.

3. If this is about the Cavia, the Cavia aren't like the way they are because of Void powers. It comes from wally finding interest and messing with their minds, not giving them any powers. Closest thing for void powers and the cavia comes from the alchemical reaction the void had with "antivoid" [radiation?], which allows mild control over the colour, which honestly just sounds like conceptual embodiment, not wally.

4. When have we ever "rearranged matter"? Our convincing and empathy is. Just that. It comes from ourselves, not any void powers. Our empathy predates wally. Thats how we got involved with him.

5. When have we ever used it to find other operators? Maybe like. The lotus' hand in duviri which helps us find objectives but thats not finding another operator

[restive river]

we don't know if they need to eat but they can eat

and I would assume they likely do for normality if nothing else

[viscid aspen]

She is sooooo gonna be Nitokh. They modelled a statue of her for the Tau Academy for a reason

[drowsy saddle]

there's statues of all the executors tho?

[fast dew]

TORMIS IN TAU

By that measure at least

[old wharf]

I wish the Lotus Eaters was about the Lotus starting a asmr, system wide mukbang with the Tenno in order to handle the stress.

[drowsy saddle]

Like there's a lot of things that to Nitokh, but the statues ain't it chief

[fast dew]

The statues are cool tho

I hope she's purple.

Give us more diverse orokin colours

[drowsy saddle]

Ourple

[fast dew]

It would just be nice to have paintings of them all

So I can make another shrine /j

[drowsy saddle]

Plenty of knives im sure

[fast dew]

.. knives.. sure....

I should make an Albrecht cube

[tall echo]

No.

[old wharf]

What...

[restive lantern]

I honestly thought lotus eaters would be more connected/inspired to Greek mythology but it's like 5 mins. It kinda is tho but you don't get that until the old peace

I think they separate the quests in weird ways sometimes lol

[glass sluice]

I wonder if anyone's remade that "the boys" gif, but of Tager/Lettie/Roathe all kicking Alby.

[old wharf]

"Asmr spicy buldak mukbang with the Tenno."

[restive lantern]

We eating food cubes™️

[midnight ice]

like righr 😭 the odysseus reference and for WHAT

[glass sluice]

Just get Arthur to cook wally spaghetti.
Drifter only survived by chance.

[midnight ice]

arthur bucket spaghetti

[glass sluice]

I hate to say it, but the writers kinda do that a lot in wf. They throw in a reference to something that could be really cool, but then just kinda keep it as that and don't do anything with it.

semi-related, but I feel the same way about not including k-drives in 1999. I mean, HOW DID YOU MISS THAT.

[restive lantern]

True, Its interesting because the lotus eaters in Greek mythology were ones who ate the plant, it would cause them to leave their home and loved ones and only stay with their fellow lotus-eaters. It was considered a narcotic and some of the depictions of them show them as a short of hive-mind. It made them sort of indifferent to anything outside of consuming more lotus. The phrase to eat a lotus can mean to forget/become blissfully unware

Sorry I'm so disordered about Greek mythology 😭

[midnight ice]

ur cool and awesome and never worry for anything in your life ever

[glass sluice]

Honestly, I like seeing people with passion who aren't just total a-holes about it, you're good!

[restive lantern]

EXACTLY! bro the atomicycle game in the mall- after beating it once you get a floof and the FLOOF HAS A K- DRIVE/SKATEBOARD
I guess part of it is probably keeping story consistency since k-drives are canonically inspired by Yareli. Maybe they didn't want to have to explain why they have it ?

I, as a yari main am hovering around no matter what tho lolol

[humble sierra]

Especially since there's a chat about it, no?

[strange plinth]

mhm, there's a chat with aoi(?) where she mentions you using one
..and we are unable to use k-drives (or necramechs, which she also has a chat about) in 1999

[midnight ice]

i rmb us mentioning to aoi about it once, something about hey you left your board in the middle of the road or smth

[humble sierra]

Necramechs are in Temporal Archimedia I believe

[midnight ice]

i remember saying damn i cant breathe in this house

[glass sluice]

The proto-frames also talk about the amount of guns you have in the backroom, which seems odd since we can't see them.
I like to think that in canon, there's just a giant pile of them shoved behind the arsenal.

wait perfect: the reason we can only take one of each on a mission, is that the rest of them are being used as ballast on the Orbiter.

[strange plinth]

i wonder if that quincy chat about incarnons actually requires that you own an incarnon or if it just plays anyway

[glass sluice]

It probably checks, then just skips it if you don't have it.
Unless an Incarnon of some form is mandatory in the progress before 1999.

[swift sentinel]

From the flowchart there's no check for that convo

I guess they just assumed most people would have at least one

[fast dew]

Oh word how do they spawn in?

Bcs necramechs are. Like

[strange plinth]

one of the peely pix lets you summon one on a cooldown iirc

[fast dew]

Usually from our landing craft or Loid summoning them up

Loid being useful as always

[fast dew]

I was meaning lorewise but neat. What does that peely pix look like? Id hope its something entrati related but I'm not holding my breath

[swift sentinel]

It probably just plays the normal open world summon animation in (E)TA

[strange plinth]

ah yea
i've never used it so i don't know if there's any special effect or dialogue about it
not sure how it'd get there either

didn't count the necramechs initially because archimedea isn't "normal gameplay"

[fast dew]

Also smthn i wish that changed with the triad's release is like. The POM-2 they use

Like why is it functional for them but not for us

I blame Loid

[viscid aspen]

YARELI MENTIONED

[drowsy saddle]

Vintage tech, a picture of POM 2

[fast dew]

Fml i need to add more to the Albrecht-slowly-turning-into-the-entrati-in-general shrine 💔

[dire mountain]

To be fair, if we used it for KIM the triad couldnt

[fast dew]

Nah not for that, let us see their accounts from their pov

Like at least let us see the kim system there

[dark compass]

No you see

It can't be Nitohk

Garuda has M on her forehead, not N

[midnight ice]

Mitohk

wario/mario situation, you see

[dire mountain]

Honestly I hope nitokh is just nitokh

No garuda protoframe

Pigeonholing characters into "oh but what if they're (Warframe) proto guys " is old

[dark compass]

Yeah Roathe made it lame

What happened to making a warframe someone's guardian

[humble sierra]

Probably what Garuda's lore will be

She was Nitokh's bodyguard or something

Like Hildryn was Ballas'

[drowsy saddle]

Okay, but what if plot twist, its actually Nitokh's daughter

And she's looking for dear old dad...

[dire mountain]

Roathe gives me enough supplementary information about the orokin that he gets a pass

Also i guess it is some kind of poetic to become the very thing you subjected your underlings to become

Idk I don't love the triad to begin with they feel a little shoehorned in

[dark compass]

What I mean is that they kinda jumped the shark with him regarding protos

[dire mountain]

Like Roathe has some cool stuff to say and Lyon has an interesting dynamic with Rell and Harrow

[dark compass]

Hex were characters first and skins second, triad is skins first and characters second

[dire mountain]

Marie is just kinda there

[dark compass]

If that makes sense

Oops, edited

My brain hurts

[dire mountain]

Yeah no I get it

[midnight ice]

marie and lyon is just kind of there with roathe hogging every inch of characterization and fun writing

i see the skins first and characterization second

[dire mountain]

Lyon has about 4 more centimeters than Marie while roathe has like 90

[dark compass]

What centimeters

[dire mountain]

its because its easier to be percentage based shh

[humble sierra]

19 inches of Uriel

[dire mountain]

[midnight ice]

even in descendia all the fun and cool lines are from roathe while lyon and marie just give banal commentary about how roathe stinks or smth

[dire mountain]

The ability to date the triad also feels so forced compared to the hex

[midnight ice]

like ouhh le gruzzling

[dire mountain]

Roundtable was awesome though

I love Velimir he's my guy

[midnight ice]

the whole temple and lizzie ordeal is cute

they all feel like, get this, individuals

[fast dew]

I only really wish it for Loid because it makes sense for me

Dude is up with the family, hes gonna get infested

[dire mountain]

Why did he go up there with no extra layers of protection 😭

[fast dew]

I dont know???

Like brother you are gonna die 😭

[twin wigeon]

i mean theres hardly any airborne spores?

[fast dew]

That doesn't matter when it comes to disease prevention

And just cus its not visible, doesnt mean its not there

[drowsy saddle]

doesn't latron uxe or whatever not even have a helmet on?

[twin wigeon]

fair

[thorny stone]

WHAT

[drowsy saddle]

tail

[dire mountain]

Yeah Flare was cool and they had their whole arc about needing to accept lizzie as part of themself. Then the inbox message from them was also nice

[thorny stone]

i like lizzie

[midnight ice]

the reveal ||that lizzie just wanted to sincerely help with the gaping grief and loneliness in flare|| was cute

[dire mountain]

Okay would you rather have an extra layer of protection incase shit goes south or just wing it when it comes to a contagious disease

[fast dew]

I aint sure why him or the grineer folk arent getting messed up, but if just. Opening the doors messed up the family, loid being up there should 😭

[fast dew]

Fr we just came out of a pandemic where things were airborne

Also Loid has ye old immune system

[twin wigeon]

i mean he neglected and hid away from the family for centuries might as well join em

[fast dew]

He'd die from the common cold

[midnight ice]

latrox une has Aerolyst juice cans in his back for some reasons, could be related as to why he can mess about in the cambion drift all fine

[fast dew]

I am. 99% sure there is a fanfic about loid suffering with the common cold

[twin wigeon]

achoo

[fast dew]

Oh yes there is

[dire mountain]

Maybe Loid turned on his energy shield or something idk 😭

[fast dew]

Mm. Forgot it was that series though

[twin wigeon]

maybe loid built diff

[fast dew]

Reminder he can doublejump

[twin wigeon]

also aren't the vessels made from the same strain of infestation as the family?

[fast dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/77176186148499456/1435489161602928650/Tumblr_l_1222864187355579.gif

Woe loid upon ye

[dire mountain]

Bro hit that mario

[fast dew]

They're hybridised with the helminth, so its significantly calmer iirc

[twin wigeon]

Alberecht wields a lex prime, Loid wields a zylok prime btw

[midnight ice]

how the hell did he do that he's 50

[dire mountain]

Gay people can just do that i think

[fast dew]

We can, i can confirm

[midnight ice]

oh yeah. i forgot gay people can doublejump

[fast dew]

I just cant do it anymore cus my legs hate me

[fast dew]

Its so cute I love them.
-# yes wielding guns together is cute, shush

[twin wigeon]

woah there i like that loid has style, wielding that enormous gun

meanwhile albrecht uses the trusty ol' glock across time

[drowsy saddle]

Yahooo!

[dire mountain]

Too bad loid's choice in firearms sucks 😭

Im a zylok hater

[twin wigeon]

nuh uh zylok op

zylok is so funny, bc it EXCLUSIVELY hates on eximus

[fast dew]

Just get him the incarnon as a birthday present

[twin wigeon]

i can give him my riven too

[fast dew]

He has really nice calves???

[strange plinth]

loid lifting ekhein:

[fast dew]

I can see why Albrecht likes him. Scary old man who would absolutely beat his ass

[fast dew]

He is so scary why can he do that

[twin wigeon]

scary old man is always mad or irritated with everyone but his pookie

[fast dew]

The Ekhein is MASSIVE compared to Loid, from memory

[fast dew]

Said pookie is a wet rag of a man who is unsure why he's being loved

[twin wigeon]

said pookie is undeserving of scary old man fs

[fast dew]

Ship dynamic and its super pretty man and his wet rat of a lover

[twin wigeon]

idkkkkkk i quite like alb's face and fit

loid gives me dante vibes

[fast dew]

Yeah but you aint gonna tell me he isnt

[twin wigeon]

a wet rat?

indeed he is

[fast dew]

Yeah

Couldn't find a good gif smh

[twin wigeon]

lettie does not approve of this rat

[fast dew]

I do have this i drew

[twin wigeon]

HAHAHAHA

I'M CACKLING

[dark compass]

Kinda

[fast dew]

He's so miserable i love him

[fast dew]

The head is bigger than him, im scared

HIS HEAD. HIS. HEAD.

His head is smaller than the head of the Ekhein

[twin wigeon]

[fast dew]

I can't English

[strange plinth]

tbh who can

[twin wigeon]

no wf player can

[fast dew]

A lot of people 😭

[midnight ice]

ive seen 3 diff spellings of zariman in a week

[fast dew]

True instead of me just being a idiot because of my background its just an effect of being a warframe player

[fast dew]

Ykwhat fair enough

[twin wigeon]

we already can't read, we like big bright colors, and we like destroying things

[fast dew]

My brain got obliterated from being in the doom and warframe fandom

[twin wigeon]

also the wf streamers are notoriously bad at pronouncing things like duviri

[fast dew]

...... how is it supposed to be said?

[twin wigeon]

DO-VARI? DO-VY-REE? are some examples

honestly i think its a bit

[midnight ice]

doo-viri/doo vee ree (as in virii or vitruvian)

[fast dew]

Because I already cannot pronounce Euleria

Yes ive tried

I struggle with certain L sounds

[strange plinth]

pretty sure duviri is pronounced consistently in-game, too
compared to "orokin"

[fast dew]

Its been like this since I was 7

Albrecht is apparently incorrectly pronounced ingame

[twin wigeon]

oro kin/oh rOH kin/o ro kin

[strange plinth]

mm, a few times
its usually correct afaik though?

[fast dew]

Mm, gonna have to ask the German regarding this one

[midnight ice]

isnt "syandana" "syan-dana" and not "sai/cy-an-dana" too?

[fast dew]

@tall echo OI YOU COME HERE AND ANSWER THE QUESTION

[strange plinth]

-# ducat being "duck-et" is wrong idc /s

[midnight ice]

ITS DOO CAHT

[drowsy saddle]

Dovahkin

[fast dew]

Ive been told that pronouncing Yuvan as Yuven isnt normal

I dont watch a lot of wf tubers

[fast dew]

Somehow Gomaitru is easier to pronounce

[midnight ice]

"penjaga" (the polarity) is also commonly mispronounced with the open-mid front unrounded e ("eh") when it's supposed to be nearer to the close-mid central unrounded e ("uh")

if we're being pedantic

[fast dew]

Vilcor is easier, maybe cus i can separate it easier than Euleria?? I cannot pronounce the grandchildren's names either

[fast dew]

Magic words..........

[ashen pulsar]

ive always said yu-vahn

[fast dew]

Thats what its supposed to be, apparently, ive never said it like that 😭 I can't remember if the game has ever said the word yuvan, and if it does, at least half of the main story has been obliterated from my memory

[midnight ice]

teshin talks abt the yuvan theatre in TWW

[fast dew]

I barely remember the new war, and thats after the second play through </3

[strange plinth]

war within, do you mean?

[fast dew]

I was going through shit while playing so ig my mind doesnt like it when I try to remember stuff around there

Mm. Should probably go to therapy for that

[strange plinth]

don't feel like editing it, first 3 seconds
mm probably can't be played on mobile actually, close wiki link

[whole hedge]

Don't know if this has been mentioned, but is there a reason that 'candidates' infected by hellminth to make warframes take on a certain 'shape'. Shape being the different frames we have?

[strange plinth]

helminth's designed into those shapes, the candidate doesn't do too much in that process

[drowsy saddle]

Unless you're mirage

[fast dew]

Strains, the helminth infestation has a bunch of strains have that make them form into certain things. Nyx being a specific one and different from a Ash prime, for example. Some that have been changed would be someone like Mirage, maybe Temple, due to Lizzie?

[midnight ice]

oh mt god yeah TWW

ty

[whole hedge]

Oh ok that makes sense

[tall echo]

I was asleep, what was I summoned for

[fast dew]

The pronunciation of Albrecht's name, is it correct or incorrect

[whole hedge]

Also am I safe to assume that excal umbra is the only one that can function without a drifter/operator. Noticed that none of my other frames do it

[tall echo]

Incorrect

[midnight ice]

yup

[whole hedge]

2 for 1 deal hmmmmm

[fast dew]

They can, they just. Don't. They need sufficient motivation [like the end of the second dream]

[tall echo]

The ch isn't pronounced like a k in german

[fast dew]

Theres also stalker and jade

[midnight ice]

he canonically (not in practice) wanders around your orbiter btw

[fast dew]

The acolytes too we presume

[whole hedge]

Wait no way. So that's why it's spotless

[fast dew]

Mm, doesn't the Al- part get mispronounced as well? From the last time I asked i think its. A long L? Like All, not Al, like Albert

[strange plinth]

currently, sort of
the first "generation" of warframes were similar, but they began to go rogue, either of their own volition or due to infested madness (both are described separately), before the tenno arrived and were able to "calm" them
kullervo (in duviri) is another example of a sapient frame

[midnight ice]

in jade shadows when ordis thinks theres an intruder in the orbiter he goes "operator? umbra?" implies umbra also wanders around the orbiter when we're not looking

[fast dew]

The Gara that blew up that sentient in the Plains too

Dante as well

A lot of them actually

[ashen pulsar]

yeah hes like a roomba

he eats the dirt

[tall echo]

It's a much less noticable one, not really worth correcting

[fast dew]

Fair fair fair

Oh wise German, what does Bengel mean, while you're here
-# for me specifically so I can explain it better

[tall echo]

Unruly child

[drowsy saddle]

The brecht part of his name just makes me think of the sfx of when you shid yourself

[ashen pulsar]

rascal?

[tall echo]

That is the best equivalent

[ashen pulsar]

or brat could work

[whole hedge]

See I wrote kullervo off as duviri magic since it's something the drifter imagined up right?

Acolytes?

Ah I thought that was because I had umbra selected. (time to setup the camera traps)

The power of love

[ashen pulsar]

kullervo isn't CE'd

hes just a warframe

[drowsy saddle]

Mayyybe he transformed visually upon plunging into duviri

But that's a big if

[fast dew]

Oh and on the power of love, Probably that Citrine that blew up deimos

[fast dew]

Thats what I figured, thank you

[dark compass]

His head is Thrax shaped

[drowsy saddle]

Maybe he was hungry and ate one

[strange plinth]

acolytes are barely canon

[dark compass]

I mean the child

Not the unit

[midnight ice]

we outta dominus thrax

[ashen pulsar]

what's really funny is
kullervo CE'd balls in duviri lol
the warden is most likely his doing

[midnight ice]

(suspiciously dominus thrax shaped kullervo)

[fast dew]

True but I gotta mention them just a lil

[strange plinth]

most of duviri is, yea, but kullervo showed up in duviri n made his own island
to, uh, simplify that acrithis quote

[dark compass]

It's definitely Dominus Thrax shaped

[strange plinth]

the kullervo in the cells uses the alt helmet iirc

[dark compass]

Yeah he does

I guess his actual helmet is supposed to be the alt one

And the Thrax one is for thematic purposes

[ashen pulsar]

alt is better tbh

[dark compass]

Alt helmet + shoulderless deluxe is meta

[ashen pulsar]

still need to grab his deluxe

dont have the plat rn

[fast dew]

Sometimes warframe alt helms are just better

[drowsy saddle]

Imma wait for the prime

[ashen pulsar]

and gus is getting his deluxe soon so I wont for a while

[drowsy saddle]

Im saving my plat for the dynamic duo

[fast dew]

I do like Follie's base helm and thats apparently weird

Shes crying ink thats so peak

[strange plinth]

its grown on me i think
i'm like. neutral-postive on it now

[ashen pulsar]

oraxia's isnt
learned that after buying it for creds and nearly missing clip delegation

[fast dew]

Her alt helm works better with signas, something about her long ass head makes it hard to use them

[fast dew]

Ive always liked it, its gotten better for me the more its been worked on

[dark compass]

I wanted to but

Deadlock devoured me

[strange plinth]

oraxia's alt is definitely more situational
i use it because i also use her chest armor and the repeated U curve doesn't look great

[ashen pulsar]

dont think I have any good signas for it

[fast dew]

Most signas are from the back of the head, and thats hard to use

[tall echo]

I don't like how flat oraxia's default helmet looks ngl

[fast dew]

Repetitive design is good, but only in certain ways

Mm. There's a word for it, similar start different end

Anaphora?

[whole stone]

Why does Albrecht look like a normal human even though hes orokin, and how does the Entrati family on Deimos get blue skin if Albrecht was like the patriarch and oldest surviving member?

[dark compass]

Because blue skin is a cosmetic thing and he wanted to blend in with 1999 most likely

We can see his portrait in "orokin blue" in-game

They're masters of bio engineering, it was not really a problem to change whatever traits you had

@whole stone ping because I forgot

[brave robin]

Albrecht stopped doing continuity and we see that Orokin that stop this become less blue

the entrati's on deimos are infested and don't age because of this

no age means no deterioration

we see with Ballas lack of continuity grays the skin

[midnight ice]

there's also an item (Refacia kit) that implies theres something called "imitation Orokin Blue"

[fast dew]

He actively chooses not to, along with the lack of a long arm. He did also have the white eyes, until 1999 came out and changed it

[azure jasper]

hello, a question I am asking myself : Albrecht, is he a member of the council of the 7?

given his vast knowledge, I am wondering

[fast dew]

Ehh, that portrait of Albrecht is post disregard of continuity and hes still pretty blue. Its probably not the lack of refreshing the skintone over lack of continuity