lore-discussion

[silk atlas]

That's just how it goes with updates to characters. Parvos had nothing about him for a while until Sisters, and then after Ascension.

No, he just lived after we cured him.

That's why he has the purple scar

[north jolt]

But also, we never actually fought and killed ( or "killed") Parvos before hand. We confronted him in the Granum void but only fought the Protea specter after he effed off

[iron tiger]

I was kinda hoping alad v would become a cool half-infested ambassador like the entrati family but farther gone

[north jolt]

Like Turd said, we murdered Alad already several times and just refuses to stay down

Until now, unless DE proves me wrong in the future

[silk atlas]

I'm mostly just referring to the fact that content on specifically developed characters is slow, so Alad not having stuff "for the longest time" isn't unnatural.

[iron tiger]

So alad made the mutalist strain right? Or was it naturally occurring?

[silk atlas]

He developed Mutalist, yeah

[iron tiger]

How many strains are there and where did they come from?

[north jolt]

Yeah but it just feels like a unusually long time, given how we dont even see him during the new war after that ship gets blown up. I know I could be wrong but Im just hoping he's FINALLY gone

Huffing that copium, if you will

[silk atlas]

He wasn't on that ship, sadly, he was sitting on his ass in the backlines

[north jolt]

Also we need a direct fight against Nef Anyo just for catharsis sake

[north jolt]

FUUUUUUUUU...

[silk atlas]

Can probably just look them up on the Infested page

[north jolt]

But yeah, Granum is a problem but I think if anything, taking Nef Anyo out would be a huge advantage. Frees up the debt slaves AND opens up a path for a ally/proxy/bribed bish to worm their way in and work on our behalf

At the end of the day the Corpus understands wealth above all else, just gotta find someone who wants our prime junk badly enough

[strange turtle]

Taking out Nef doesn’t magically free them

[north jolt]

Well it makes it harder to actually enforce the debt collection at least

[strange turtle]

No, because they’ll just get bought by another Corpus

[north jolt]

Nef Anyo is the one primarily overseeing that specific operation and even the development of weapons like Profit Taker. If he's taken out all that gets set back a good bit

[silk atlas]

They'd get someone else to replace him, is the issue]

[north jolt]

Unless we find someone before them. Someone corrupt but in OUR favor

[silk atlas]

That's why Nef was so hellbent on being related to Parvos

[north jolt]

But if Parvos did us any favor it was basically disowning his own son

[gentle isle]

They were...not even related

[brittle siren]

Remind me. What happened to the relay on Venus

[north jolt]

Nef Anyo was genetically related to Parvos

Part of that experiment to create a heir

[gentle isle]

Wasn't that supposed to be a lie

That nef made up

[north jolt]

No it was legit, Nef Anyo just needed hard evidence to support it cause all he had was some vague documents and hearsay

[north jolt]

Even Parvos acknowledged Nef Anyo as being related, begrudgingly

[gentle isle]

I thought that was ironic lol

[north jolt]

No he was literally just the universe's most disappointed father

[pallid spoke]

Still the best roast in the game

[north jolt]

@silk atlas actually wait I just had an idea. I know right now he basically hates us, BUT what if, and just hear me out

What if we convince Parvos to temporarily help us, by offering to kill his dissapointment of a son Nef Anyo?

[gentle isle]

Why would he need our help

[north jolt]

He probably doesn't, but if you can offload the work onto someone else

And Im sure he wants to see Nef Anyo get yeeted into the sun just as much as we do

[peak ether]

For the entrati, would continuity fix them or has the infestation been so deeply ingrained in their minds that they would still feel its influence in new bodies?

[north jolt]

I dont know, but I think continuity should be able to fix them

[brittle siren]

what's the meaning of the third note?

[wind ruin]

Roathe, in one of his conversations, says that the Infestation prevents Continuity, and it makes sense; the Infestation has already 'claimed' the personality, the memories, the Oro, of the infested individual, making it impossible for Continuity to move the Oro to a non-Infested body.

Now, that said? There may be a way to make new, human-like bodies for the family out of a new strain of Infestation. Albrecht might be able to figure it out, especially with their help. Since both Daughter and Son have studied how the Infestation affects and mutates living creatures, and Albrecht has built/designed both the Warframes and the Vessels.

[north jolt]

Ahh, I guess they're stuck as giant flower people then

[gentle isle]

Think that's in referral to him asking you to reset his memories?

[dark compass]

i have bad news

in one of the tactical potato interviews with DE they said that he is alive post new war

just went into hiding

Alad V always comes back

[narrow pendant]

id laugh so hard if he appears in tau

even better, hes been there before us

[unique aspen]

Alad V will get messed up by every power under the Sun before being done. Void-touched Alad V.

[dark compass]

sentients have seen up to his agreement to switch sides and just let him join post narmer

"hey guys can i still go with you"

[narrow pendant]

Alad V presenting the amalgams, the "weird" part of the sentient family tree they dont talk about

[dark compass]

amalgam alad v is next

he survives that bossfight too

[narrow pendant]

and then

murmur V

[gentle isle]

Lol

[dark compass]

Scaldra V- oh wait

[narrow pendant]

heh

[gentle isle]

TENET V

[dark compass]

he switches to amalgam, gets his shit kicked in

then goes to parvos, gets his shit kicked in again

[narrow pendant]

the fact his collar thing translates to alad gregory... and the 1998 coda logs has a gregory V...

[gentle isle]

Alad becomes a Sister thru the power of estrogen

[unique aspen]

Oh my gods... Technocyte Alad V is real...

[narrow pendant]

it would be hilarious if its actually him

[dark compass]

yeah, he is just everpresent

[unique aspen]

He gets really into CRTs like Albrecht

[dark compass]

this mf reversed infestation taking over his mind

nothing can kill him by this point

[narrow pendant]

with the "help" of tyl regor

mf is the one in a bazillion clone rot that actually got all the missing braincells of the grineer for himself

made a cure for the infestation by himself 😭

[unique aspen]

😭

[narrow pendant]

hes also the only guy i can think of that has archmelee without being in space

DE archmelee callin when

we got melees that are larger than them already 😭

[loud oriole]

Zenistar with the specific skin, me beloved
-# i forgor the name other than its part of Chroma Dynasty

[narrow pendant]

i remember them reading a request for it on a stream and reb saying she will bring it up in a meeting but they would have to do something more special than the archgun buff for them to stand out

[narrow pendant]

zenistar i think was the name

zenith is the primary

[loud oriole]

ah yea myb

i pray they never adjust the scaling for zenistar and that skin

[narrow pendant]

they said they wouldnt

people like it, makes people buy it

why fix it if its fun

[loud oriole]

plus the attachment I'm running makes it have a suuuuuper long tassel

[dark compass]

ppl asked not to fix it enough times

so it was officially kept as a feature

[north jolt]

Then its for sure when or however he comes back, its going to be over something absolutely terrible

[north jolt]

Because void corrupted Vor didn't yap enough

[narrow pendant]

void touched alad didnt make a deal with wally wally made a deal with alad

[dark compass]

Alad W

[narrow pendant]

the only alad L was the gradvius dilemma

well and the zanuka

and the amalgam deal

and the infestation

and the-

99% entrepreneur quit before they make their best deal

[fast dew]

[narrow pendant]

respect his hustle ngl

i like the fact that the rank that used ghoulsaw the most is LR6

did all the founders beg DE for the new kuva weapon to be the saw bc of that

since master+ founders have some say in DE decisionmaking

[north jolt]

I dont think Alad V even cares about the money. He just does it for the love of the game (and by "it" I mean creating the most horrific hybrid abominations in the system)

[fast dew]

Thsts... funny to me

[narrow pendant]

please reb, i want the liches to have the stance so they can ride on it into battle

if thats the case ill convert one right away and have them be my rj summon

[fast dew]

Founders really out here tryna get the saw that killed Avantus 💔/j

[strange plinth]

grineer that killed avantus cosplay incoming

[narrow pendant]

ok but hear me out
atomicycle based frame that turns the cycle into an exalted assault saw

[fast dew]

He had a name didn't he?

[narrow pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/dmc5-devil-may-cry5-dante-motorcycle-gif-26102504

[strange plinth]

i think so. but i do not remember it

[fast dew]

Id have to ask where tf ballas got a motorbike from

[strange plinth]

this would be a fun idea tbh

[fast dew]

And how he managed to do that 😭

[narrow pendant]

hey we got another orokin making frames by now

let my boi albrecht tinker more with stuff he "borrowed" from 99

[ocean geyser]

im so obsessed with the idea of Xenoflora'd sentient weapons that i made my Broken war white and blue

[fast dew]

Thats somehow worse

[narrow pendant]

and then imagine rusalka being the proto for it

[ocean geyser]

im so cooked guys

[strange plinth]

ehh
qorvex was only designed by albrecht, and the temple serum was already made

[narrow pendant]

like that has to be rusalkas ending besides dying right? she can only survive becoming a proto

[fast dew]

I don't think that Albrecht should be touching any more atomicycles

[narrow pendant]

we got a frame featuring every other vehicle besides mechs though

[fast dew]

I still wonder what the implications of him reminding himself to do it "(benevolently)" are

[narrow pendant]

im sure they will make a bike frame eventually

[dark compass]

exalted anything that isnt a weapon is a shakey ground it seems

just look at yareli

[narrow pendant]

ollies crash course prime, the infestation ate the cardridge and manifested it into a frame lmao

[dark compass]

they also originally wanted to give Dagath an exalted Kaithe, but they had too many clipping and oob issues

[fast dew]

Was Albrecht out here rigging bikes to explode

[dark compass]

quoting a deadlock hero

"brakes wont cut themselves"

[fast dew]

... he did do that for the atomicycles actually, didn't he?

[strange plinth]

albrecht's intrusive thoughts include sabotaging bikes apparently /s

[dark compass]

we end as we began

with a bang

[loud oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-accel-bike-form-maximum-drive-kamen-rider-w-kamen-rider-form-gif-7101698767594367029

[fast dew]

I mean, i can't say I haven't looked at a motorbike and wondered if that would explode if it crashed, so I cant even fault Albrecht for that one

[narrow pendant]

since were getting grendel + gauss emotes, ive been thinking what other pairs exist; what about lavos limbo & dante lol

the smart guy club

[loud oriole]

who's limbo?

[fast dew]

Mm. Titania and Oberon? They're from the same source material

[dark compass]

titania/oberon
excalibur/nyx

[narrow pendant]

hydroid and yareli perhaps, nothing against reusing yareli since its an emote

[dark compass]

equinox/equinox

[north jolt]

The "G" in Limbo stands for "Good frame"

[fast dew]

Im still delusional and will die on the hill that proto Loid will happen

[dark compass]

People need to understand him

[narrow pendant]

using wisp idle had her split into both her forms

[dark compass]

Limbo literally has an ability to double enemy spawns and people still call him bad

[fast dew]

Hes only bad bcs people would troll w him

[dark compass]

nobody is trolling with him

not enough people play him to bother

[narrow pendant]

limbo has issues but those who play him have my respect, i do plan to learn him eventually

[dark compass]

you never meet a limbo

and if you do theyre either new or doing their best

[fast dew]

Folk are deliberately doing it 😭 I know they do it bcs i do it

[dark compass]

or camp low range cataclysm on defense

[fast dew]

I will steal your argon

[dark compass]

then you are the problem, stop doing it

[north jolt]

He is bad

But he also has a ton of insane gimmicks and interactions no other frame can really replicate

Its almost like he's a, paradox

[dark compass]

so is he bad if he can do so much that no other frame can

[fast dew]

Half of the time its not intentional, going into rift will make items follow you w out picking them up and my blind ass cannot see it most of the time

[dark compass]

ppl call him bad then refuse to elaborate

[fast dew]

The difference between rift and real world is hard to see

[dark compass]

he needs a visual update at most

he is getting reworked inevitably because people will keep complaining until the rift gimmick is dead in the water

but he is absolutely not bad

[fast dew]

I think he just needs a retouch

[dark compass]

people need to learn of 1-3-1

he operates on logic, people rarely care about logic

[narrow pendant]

wukong being most played proves this

[dark compass]

@north jolt hey maybe we should move somewhere

its lore, lets not flood it

[dark compass]

dont get the wrong idea i think this is solely because hes super popular in china

[narrow pendant]

ya i mean for those that cloud and away lol

better frame would be revenant for that

[feral cape]

Because he is

[dark compass]

And you are MEDIOCRE

[feral cape]

All of my frames can double enemy spawns I kill everyone fast enough and its never an issue

[dark compass]

[feral cape]

I am mediocre thats my name

Limbo doesn't offer a ton hes a relic of days long gone

Like loki banshee and chroma to an extent

Chroma is just bad hes not really a relic

[narrow pendant]

the goal of limbo is being able to play limbo, to understand limbo

king of mental effort if you will

he offers a playstyle pretty much exclusive to him in gaming

the way he clashes with other players deserves to be touched up upon though

[tall echo]

No

[lilac aspen]

To succeed with limbo, one must embrace being an insane mathematician

[dark compass]

I do want your opinion on this, anything goes

I barely see Wukong in pubs

[tall echo]

To succeed with limbo one must equip a different frame

[lilac aspen]

Insane enough you’re willing to make a calculation that will tear you apart in the end

[tall echo]

Wukong allows exceedingly brainless gameplay, which makes him popular

[dark compass]

"play what you like" mfs when you mention limbo:

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[lilac aspen]

This is why I play limbo
He works for me

[tall echo]

I like limbo but he is painful to use

[dark compass]

I'm talking about popularity. Pretty sure there are many brainless frames

EXCEEDING popularity, mind you

Two years in a row top pick

Isn't he?

[tall echo]

Yes, and he allows the most brainless

[silk atlas]

He's been stupid popular for forever because he had a clone play for you.

[tall echo]

Invulnerability, 3 automatic revives, a clone

[silk atlas]

He is also popular in China but that doesn't change the fact he was the baby's first afk frame for a long time.

[tall echo]

I have genuine reason to hate wukong with every single fiber of my being

[dark compass]

Monkey...

[lilac aspen]

I just do the reasonable thing and not be a nuisance
If my team is obliterating this direction, I’ll focus on the other direction

If not, I pop a cataclysm to put everyone into it to give them energy regen and still damage enemies or just be utility by exploiting the fact I’m invulnerable in the rift so I can revive anyone who goes down

[narrow pendant]

freeza

[narrow pendant]

i yearn for the day i understand limbo enough to be able to actively play alongside one

with any frame

[lilac aspen]

It’s a weird mixture
Because Limbo players need to also actively understand each frame they’re around and their mechanics

A good one is the Limbo and Mesa combo

[loud gate]

I have a quick question is the man in the wall really an extra dimensional God it said he exists Beyond time and space and reality and doesn't follow the laws of physics logic nature and dreams he's basically the tennos Master is he really an all-powerful omnipotent God

Cuz if so they need to give us a quest to free him or Embrace him so we can truly control the void and become the reality warping deities we will always meant to be

[ocean geyser]

The answer is we don’t know
And also that would game over the whole system
So no

[loud gate]

You do realize the man in the wall has proven to be nothing but a friend to the tenno he saved us from the evil warframes he gave us powers without drawbacks he's had no intention to kill us and has made no attempts in our life and even when he does they seem like tests to help us overcome our fears and insecurities he's on our side the man in the wall besides the Lord also States it's a being a balance but is more towards chaos than it is order

[dark compass]

He's yet to take our part of the deal

[strange plinth]

"nothing but a friend to the tenno"
huh
he made us kill our parents
i wouldn't call that friend behavior

[loud gate]

You mean are divine gift that made us gods

[dark compass]

Oh you're just trolling

[strange plinth]

i sure hope so

[loud gate]

Power doesn't come without sacrifice you know besides our parents were probably a bunch of jerks if you made us kill them and that was 10,000 years ago nothing we can do about it now

[strange plinth]

lmao they explicitly were like. mediocre parents at worst

[loud gate]

You know the tenno 10,000 years old right

[strange plinth]

bit of an exaggeration
closer to a little over 1k
even then, most of it was in cryo

[loud gate]

And even if we didn't kill them they left us trapped on that ship all alone they deserved whatever Faith they got sending a bunch of 13 to 14 year old teens on a shift with sport distant Galaxy how is that responsible parenting

You know the old war was 5,000 years ago and then we spent $5,000 years in stasis again we're 10,000 years old not to mention the 10 years we spent in the void recovering from Ballas 10,010 years old

[strange plinth]

"left us trapped on that ship all alone"
we. we killed them on that ship. they were there too

[loud gate]

We are thousands of years old and we don't age because the void exists outside of time and space and we're connected to its energy so we exist outside of time we are Immortal extra dimensional gods

[strange plinth]

mind backing that up with a source?

[loud gate]

Besides they got turned into ravenous warframes due to avoid exposure we had to kill them or they would have killed us the man of the war was the physical manifestation of the Void taking physical form besides the Lord says it's a being a balance that is all about chaos and darkness but it still has light inside of it we can't blame it for its nature void energy is chaotic and that's a sentient voice creature whenever you talk to the man of the wall you're talking to the void taking a physical body

Besides we can't possibly go back in the deal he gave us our powers and he could take them away with a snap of his fingers and probably our life too

So what choice do we have it's an extra dimensional God that doesn't follow the laws of physics logic nature or dreams and exists outside of time space and reality it's basically the warframe's version of Jesus Christ AKa God we can't Define omnipotent God

[strange plinth]

there's quite a bit of evidence pointing to albrecht creating him when albrecht broke into the void
wouldn't really call that a god

[loud gate]

Do you have any idea how dangerous it would be too do you have any idea how powerful that thing is if that thing wanted to we can probably blow up our entire universe the best thing we can do is hope to do with that thing says

That thing is an immortal extra dimensional entity that doesn't have any need to follow our physical and mental laws that thing can warp time and space to an infinite degree it doesn't even abide by physics logic nature dreams of reality it pulled two different timelines of The Drifter and the tenno altogether and merge them like they were nothing without a paradox and then gave The Drifter powers in every possible timeline do you have any idea how impossibly powerful that thing is it may not be a God but it sure comes awfully close that thing is nigh omnipotent if not omnipotent

Two things will happen if we set that thing free the entire universe will fall into chaos given the chaotic nature avoid energy or everything will die

Because that thing is the void taking on a physical body void energy is sentient and self-aware

[strange plinth]

no timelines were merged
drifter split off of the operator when the deal was shook while in the void, then re-entered operator's timeline during TNW
wally's powerful, but no diety

[loud gate]

I'm just look at how afraid the Lotus was she is a Warframe and sentient hybrid and she had void powers and she's shaking in fear of that thing trying to banish it and more than likely that thing let her banish it cuz it just left

[strange plinth]

lotus is not a warframe hybrid, she's just a sentient
and she does not have void powers

[loud gate]

You do realize The Drifter is from an alternate timeline where he never got powers cuz he didn't accept the man of the Wall's gracious offer of becoming a god

She's an archon she consumed the archon shards which contain the life Essence and DNA of the archons she's an archon now which is a Warframe Cindy infusion she's powered by void energy did you not see her wielding void Powers at the end of the new war

[strange plinth]

operator and drifter split at the deal with the man in the wall, drifter also made the deal, they just got hit by semantics
"I can save them, all of them"
"all of [the children]" was operator's deal, all of [the other children]" was drifter's
zariman tablet in duviri:

29. You wouldn't welch on a deal, would you?
    A. *CORRUPT FILE DETECTED*
    B. I saved them. All of them. Never said I'd save you. (correct)

[loud gate]

So what if we had to destroy a bunch of useless children it was either that or a bunch of ravenous warframes to our tenno what do you expect a 14 year old child to do take the offer of an all-powerful extra dimensional God or die

[strange plinth]

the description of archon shards mentions they power synthetic beings, which include sentients, warframes, and archons
archons are a combination of sentient and warframe, but lotus is just a sentient
and i don't think those are void powers?

[strange plinth]

when are we destroying "a bunch of useless children" huh

[loud gate]

You do realize she's a sentient mimic that can take on a human form she's an ultimate mimic class she literally has the ability to take on a human synthetic body most sentient mimics only appear as objects she is a ultimate mimic

[fast dew]

Wally isn't a all powerful god??

[fast dew]

Do you know how mimics work

[loud gate]

Do you not see how powerful that thing is if our title would holding it back it would throw the entire universe into chaos or destroy everything

[strange plinth]

ya she's the sentient mimic queen, that doesn't.. prove anything?

[fast dew]

Wally shits itself when men kiss.

[loud gate]

Yeah mimics turn into objects by using Holograms and shapeshifting their bodies they're a bunch of sentience that the skies

[strange plinth]

weak to old man yaoi

[loud gate]

Besides the man of the war was the tennis partner he was probably coming to check up on the title to make sure they were okay at the end of the new war

[fast dew]

Wally gets forced to retreat. By men kissing.

He aint some all powerful thing

[loud gate]

You do realize the Lotus is nowhere near powerful enough to banish him he left on his own

Did you not see her shaking she was struggling to hold him back there's no way she could have banished him he just left

[strange plinth]

uh huh. definitely.
and that's totally unrelated to the murmur, controlled by the man in the wall, becoming bolder after TNW

[fast dew]

Thats not what im arguing

[dark compass]

[fast dew]

Im saying that wally isnt all powerful lmao

[loud gate]

You know he's never tried to kill the tenno he's always protected them he gave us Powers even if it was in a Twisted way to save us he prevented us from dying when bow established in the heart we should have instantly killed us but we barely flinched

[fast dew]

He made us kill our parents.

[loud gate]

Do you not see the operators are Immortal nothing can kill us we survived a fatal wound right to the heart and barely flinched I bet if we get decapitated we'll just grow a new head

[fast dew]

Thats.

[loud gate]

You do realize that was our choice

[fast dew]

Not how that works

[strange plinth]

rell literally died in front of us lol
we're hard to kill but certainly not immortal

[fast dew]

Do you understand that no child wants to kill their good parents?

Also, yeah. Rell deadass died

[loud gate]

The shadow stalker one snatched my tenno neck you know I went flying back into my Warframe but I survived that thing broke my neck and I did not die

[fast dew]

It didnt break your neck lmfao

[strange plinth]

also we die in the old peace

[fast dew]

At most bruised your larynx

[loud gate]

We don't age we don't suffer disease and we can survive getting stabbed in the heart and getting our neck broken do you really think anything's going to kill us

[fast dew]

And as a person who's had a bruised larynx, shit hurts but its not a broken neck.

[fast dew]

Rell. Rell died from old age

Rell died. He was a tenno

[strange plinth]

like its a big cinematic moment

[loud gate]

According to the Lore he never manifested his voice Powers due to autism he was a defective tenno

[fast dew]

Yeah also we do just deadass die

[fast dew]

... what

[loud gate]

The channel are 10,000 years old and haven't even aged a day do you have any idea how long it would take for us to die

[fast dew]

No, he had it. He was in a warframe???

How do you think he was able to get into harrow???

[loud gate]

Yeah warframes are not Eternal tenno are

[strange plinth]

we. were. in. cryo.
we've only been conscious as tenno for a few years at most

[fast dew]

Hes probably the one who blinded Margulis???

He has void powers

[loud gate]

Warframes are techno organic machines mutated by the hellmeth basically humans with skin as hard as metal and indestructible muscles living robots

[fast dew]

Metal breaks

All the time?

[loud gate]

Also I don't think we're ever going to see bows again the Lotus sucked out his life force with a death kiss and absorbed his soul

[strange plinth]

the warframes are closer to immortality than the tenno

[fast dew]

Yeah, warframes just get healed by helminth

[strange plinth]

well yea, his body probably also fell into The Sun

[fast dew]

We don't

[loud gate]

A bunch of cybernetic machines that can bleed and die and get sliced in too compared to all powerful extra dimensional human gods that can't age or suffer from disease and exist outside of time how is that closer plus having laser beams firing out of their hands that could probably blow up whole planets if it wasn't for the developers limiting their powers for gameplay sake

[fast dew]

Age... rell aged man

Rell literally aged

We were just in cryosleep

Like Loid was

[loud gate]

Besides I made my Channel all red with red eyes and red Blaze Oculus and red suit I call it the devil tenno I serve the man in the wall my Divine master

[fast dew]

Like the cavia were

[strange plinth]

the void beam definitely can't do much more than we see in-game

[fast dew]

You know he's gonna kill you, right?

[loud gate]

I was blessed with infinite power and immortality I chose to embrace the kuva I am his loyal servant

[strange plinth]

like. we see them used in the rell prequel comic
they aren't blasting holes in the ship. the tenno aren't trained then

[loud gate]

You know he's not going to kill me because I'm his loyal servant my Talisman is all black

[fast dew]

Kuva and wally are two different things lmfao

[loud gate]

As black as the void of space

It said that Cooper comes from the void

[loud oriole]

i'd say the frames are pretty eternal since they became 'stone' after x amount of time passed only to break free during the awakening

[fast dew]

He's gonna kill Albrecht, and he's gonna kill your friends and hes gonna kill you.

Thats what wally does.

He's done it before.

He will do it again.

[normal mountain]

Odd then that Ordis tells us to be careful in War Within
He specifically exclaims that we might put a hole in the Orbiter

[loud gate]

He can try I'll just vaporize him and absorb him and then I will become the new source of the Void I will become the man in the wall

[strange plinth]

more like a layer of minerals that built up due to rain n such
but yea they were still intact under there

[fast dew]

Who do you think the heralds are?

[strange plinth]

ordis also has no idea what is going on then tbf

[loud gate]

He's had 10,000 years that's our body and kill us why hasn't he

[fast dew]

The universes he killed, are what powers the murmur

[fast dew]

Because he was being held back by Rell. And he has, in a way.

[normal mountain]

True
But I'd imagine he knows what it would take to damage the ship he lives in

[strange plinth]

rell was holding him back while we were asleep
and, again, its only been about 1k since the orokin's collapse

[loud gate]

Screw those universes as long as he leaves me alone I don't care what he does

[fast dew]

He is indifferent. He won't.

He won't leave you alone.

You owe him.

[loud gate]

As long as he leaves my old red kubrow alone my demon kubrow called deity of pure Doom I don't care what he does to those universes he can blow them to pieces for all I care this universe is mine to rule

[fast dew]

He won't

[loud gate]

I am a dark tenno a Warframe can soon by darkness that chose the kuva that killed the ballast out of Rage with its caliber Umbra that shows wrath that chose to side with Darkness I am his ally

[fast dew]

He would kill it tbh. Or make you kill it.

[strange plinth]

uh huh. you, who have flaked on your deal, will definitely be left alone to your own devices.

[fast dew]

Wally isnt someone you can just. Work with.

[fast dew]

If he was, id assume Albrecht wouldve

Not that wally allowed any chance for that

Kinda hard to apologise when you wont appear lmao

[strange plinth]

"We had a deal. The deal was shook. A little handshake, all it took! Though from the deal the wee child ran..."
"Yet still... WE END AS WE BEGAN."

[loud gate]

I have upheld my deal everything he asked I have obeyed him sacrificed my friends and allies in service to this God

[fast dew]

No you haven't :)

[loud gate]

And when he is free I will gain absolute power

[fast dew]

If youve done whispers, you haven't.

[strange plinth]

kuva does not come from the void. the orokin had kuva before the void was accessed.

[fast dew]

No lmfao hed just kill you

[normal mountain]

They're headcanoning, I bet

[loud gate]

I will release him after I destroy the Lotus and throw her into the sun cuz when all the relays are destroyed they have will destroy the Lotus and then my master will be free she's all that's holding him back

[strange plinth]

a ton lol
its entertaining more than anything

[fast dew]

Hed make you kill your dog, then kill you

Maybe he'll make you kill yourself!

Wally isnt a nice person.

[strange plinth]

uh huh

[loud gate]

Void energy is inherently chaotic and it's the void taking physical form do you expect being a pure chaos to be nice it's his nature he doesn't want to be evil it's because of the Void he's the void taking a physical body void energy is a sentient energy source

[fast dew]

He isnt the void for one

[strange plinth]

wally is not the whole void, he's just a weird little guy that lives there

[fast dew]

And the void is actually the opposite

[loud gate]

Besides by kubrow is a vicious killer that likes what I like he tears enemies apart and enjoys it also my kubrow is a lady so he's going to technically make me kill my best girl

[fast dew]

Its inert most of the time

[fast dew]

Yes, he would. Again, he made us kill our parents.

[loud gate]

Screw our parents they were weak

[fast dew]

So is your dog.

[loud gate]

We dont need them

My dog has killed thousands of Grindr all by itself

[fast dew]

Kubrows aren't special

[loud gate]

How is that weak

[tall echo]

What in the goddamn-

[fast dew]

We've killed more than a hundred.

[loud gate]

It's cloaker kubrow

[fast dew]

They deadass aint special

Yeah and?

[loud gate]

It's better than a floating drone that gets blown up by a grenade launcher my crew broke and take 10 grenade lunch or shots to the face before going down

[strange plinth]

welcome to the party. if you're staying. its hilarious here

[tall echo]

Holy cringelord batman!

[fast dew]

You can tell when theres a baby tenno, they dont know that their kubrows would die if you didn't care for em
-# I think

[loud gate]

It's survived the eidolons out on the plains it's destroyed bosses by itself how is it week

[fast dew]

Its weak.

It gets downed, right?

[loud gate]

25,000 claw damage

It's not weak

[fast dew]

Id love to see a screenshot.

[strange plinth]

congrats ! that's gameplay, not lore.

[fast dew]

Cmon, show us

[loud oriole]

-# 🎶 Party of your lifetime... 🎶

[loud gate]

My kubrow has red eyes Scarlet red eyes and Scarlet red fur it's like a devil

[fast dew]

Yeah so where's the screenshot

[loud gate]

There's a reason why I used to call him Lord of Darkness

[tall echo]

Good for you kid

[fast dew]

Can't make claims that it does something w out a screenshot

[loud gate]

Let me get you a screenshot not a kid either I'm 31

[fast dew]

Thats even worse

[tall echo]

Much worse

[fast dew]

Thats somehow so much worse

[strange plinth]

i feel like one of these is in order

[tall echo]

Talkin like an 8 year old

[loud gate]

This is my devil Drifter how demonic does it look

[fast dew]

I was. Meaning the kubrow damage

[loud gate]

This is what a demonic Drifter looks like a servant of the man in the wall

[fast dew]

And christ thats. Like Chili sauce

[normal mountain]

like it's made of red licorice

[loud gate]

It's red because it's evil and demonic you know demons are red right

[fast dew]

Really oily chilli sauce

[tall echo]

That's what a cringy edgelord looks like

[fast dew]

Christ.

[normal mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/twizzlers-candy-gif-25228869

[fast dew]

Like. Im a doom fan, I like demonic shit

[loud gate]

And this is my devil tenno

[fast dew]

I have one of the helmets right next to me

[ashen pulsar]

guh

[fast dew]

I love demonic shit but holy hell

[ashen pulsar]

unholy hell, usually

[fast dew]

Usually, but in the context of doom, it is indeed holy
-# hell is heaven for some reason, its a whole thing

[loud gate]

See right next to my Oberon this is the dog that serves the devil deity of pure doom is here name

[tall echo]

Eh, hell still qualifies as holy on account of being made by god

[loud gate]

That's my demonic oberon

[fast dew]

Can I see damage stats?

[loud oriole]

-# hell is definitely heaven for Johnathan "Doom Guy" Doom

[loud gate]

I don't have those right now but my Google definitely looks like a demon doesn't it

[fast dew]

Wait till you learn that Oberon is a fairy

[tall echo]

Making everything bright red isn't demonic it's just reason for ridicule

[loud gate]

That's the vengeful pull aura on my dog

[tall echo]

No

[loud gate]

Yeah I'm a demon fairy

[fast dew]

Oberon is a fairy king from a play by Shakespeare

... so a Fae

[loud gate]

Well I am a demonic fairy before they changed him I used to have Scarlet Red grass demon grass

[tall echo]

Oberon is a faerie king

[loud gate]

You should see Uriel and his demons horrifying

I have Scarlet Red infernals true demons

[tall echo]

Yeah.. no

[fast dew]

Hes a fairy. Who has marriage problems

Uriel is actually a name of an angel

[strange plinth]

also i need to point out that the "evil" choices you've made.. are not evil. that's not a good/evil morality wheel
its closer to how much you let emotions guide your actions

[tall echo]

And again making everything blinding red just makes ppl want to bully you for being childish

[loud gate]

Also this is my pirate character from Skull and bones notice he has red eyes

[strange plinth]

this is unrelated

[tall echo]

Irrelevant

[loud gate]

You haven't even seen it's caliber Umbra Scarlet Red exalted Blade the blade of a demon

[tall echo]

You're definitely not old enough to play wf

And please learn punctuation

[loud gate]

I never lie about my age I at 31 and I'm autistic and ADHD and this is my demonic eidolon Lotus

My demonic sentient Queen

Beautiful isn't she all wrapped in the color of Darkness

[peak vigil]

What in the name of the lord is going on here?

[loud gate]

Do you not see that I am a servant of demons I would rather obey the man of the wall and destroy the entire universe for power then save it

[strange plinth]

i think you need to go over.. most of the game's story again
because your interpretations are uh. kinda the complete opposite of where the story is and will be going

[tall echo]

Most childish wf player ever has appeared

[tall echo]

I see an almost literal red flag

[peak vigil]

… you played whispers of the wall right?

[loud gate]

Right

[peak vigil]

So you realize what Wally said yes?

[loud gate]

Yes this is my Excalibur Umbra behold the face of evil and it's demonic wolf Sledge

[peak vigil]

And that little extra thing he wanted?

[loud gate]

Also my exalted blade and a heavy strike this over 102,000 damage

[peak vigil]

The thing that ofc isn’t given to him

[loud gate]

When it was still possible to customize my poetry my tree had Red Vines

Void tree

[peak vigil]

My brother in Christ I don’t know how to break it to you but.. that’s uhh..

looks at my tenet grigori doing over 7M

[loud gate]

The grinder fear me they run and fear some shake at my presence they immediately go to the alarms they're so afraid of me I am the most terrifying being in the origin system to the NPCs

[tall echo]

You're a joke

[loud gate]

I have an all black dry dock for my railjack called the Dry Dock Of Darkness a place even darker than the stalker's cave

[peak vigil]

This feels like the backstory of an unnecessarily edgy OC now

[loud gate]

It's so dark in there you look like you're in outer space

Not edgy committed to evil I Love Destruction I love watching my enemies get torn apart in games only

[tall echo]

It absolutely is

[loud gate]

After all I ain't no psychopath I only enjoy this Carnage in the games not real life

[strange plinth]

mhm, that's been the vibe the entire time
woefully misinterpreting the lore in favor of edge

[peak vigil]

You have defeated your own “commitment” in the same sentence

[tall echo]

That's still edgy

[loud gate]

How am I edgy I fight to dominate I fight to conquer I fight to kill and I fight for fun when I battle players every fight is a fight to the death with me

[peak vigil]

Wait you play conclave?

[tall echo]

...do you know what edgy means

[loud gate]

You do realize I'm the king of Darkness if my Cooper could eat your warframes it would just to see what they taste like my kubrow has never had Warframe meat

It was split your warframes in half just for fun

[peak vigil]

My brother in Christ shieldgating exists

[loud gate]

It's this driven to destruction as I am it is my being a pure chaos it's always angry and it destroys everything it sees for fun my kubrow

[tall echo]

Use. Punctuation.

[loud gate]

Of course it's only like that emissions it's a little sweetheart when it's on the ship

[tall echo]

Please

[loud gate]

Dude I'm voice typing and I have terrible Granmer due to my disabilities

[peak vigil]

Those being?

[tall echo]

Doubt

[loud gate]

It's roars was rage and Roars with chaos my kubrow does not care about anyone but me it only cares about completing the mission and protecting me and destroying everything in my way

[tall echo]

Most fake deep voice ever

[peak vigil]

… I can’t actually understand what your saying in that voice message

[tall echo]

Speech to text would still have punctuation

[peak vigil]

Please speak more clearly and with the due respect, what disabilities are you talking about?

[lusty badge]

this has to be ragebait

there is no way that youre a real person

[loud gate]

Dude I have a high functioning autism in ADHD and just so you know I'm not lying at all I have my IQ is 200 I'm four times smarter than Stephen Hawking I'm literally the smartest man in the world

I am a real person trust me I'm no artificial intelligence artificial intelligence don't have emotions and you guys are making me mad right now so show respect

If such a thing existed I would be a super ultra genius cuz I go beyond some genius level intelligence

[lusty badge]

https://tenor.com/view/guroteske-emo-wolf-gif-26967313

[tall echo]

It's hard to show respect to ppl who remind me of my edgy kid phase

[peak vigil]

…

So anyways hey fellas, how are y’all’s days going?

[loud gate]

Look guys I got to go to sleep but I will return I always will that is a doom prophecy I leave you with I will never ever not be back this is fate fear my return

That is what I leave you with I do prophecy and inevitability that I will be back here no matter what you do

[lusty badge]

im quaking in me boots

[tall echo]

Right, should've expected that it's your bedtime

[peak vigil]

Welp this was.. something

Honestly wondering how the mods are seeing this

[fast dew]

I dont think they check this chat tbh

Given that they let blatant transphobia slide

Also chat i aint hallucinating, they did mention going to China on devstream right

[tall echo]

Yes

[strange plinth]

one pops up every now and then, but they don't seem to actively watch this channel as often as the others, yea
though most are fairly civil here, so i don't really blame them when compared to general chat

[narrow pendant]

ergo glast has tenet disfunction

[brittle siren]

he being greedy like Nef Anyo

[tall echo]

If he was greedy he'd have high %

No one buying min % tenets

[narrow pendant]

the great recession

[brittle siren]

true, more like gatekeeping

or scam ppl

[narrow pendant]

hes hoarding them like ram

[strange plinth]

glast fell for some cheap knock-offs this rotations i suppose

[brittle siren]

btw what is the new Tenet weapon

[narrow pendant]

quanta

[strange plinth]

quanta

[narrow pendant]

ghoulsaw quanta bubonico

[tall echo]

The most forgettable corpus weapon

[peak vigil]

Surprised they went for quanta compared to say the penta

[brittle siren]

for the above reason

[peak vigil]

Fair

[tall echo]

I would pay for a tenet prova

[peak vigil]

there’s also ig the lanka and snipertron

[narrow pendant]

why do those have the same model anyway

[brittle siren]

Imagine Tenet Ocucor

[brittle siren]

you mean the Tenet?

[narrow pendant]

lanka and snipetron

[tall echo]

1 in 1000 for a candidate to spawn john prodman and if you manage to defeat him you get the tenet prova

[peak vigil]

Would be impossible to get

[tall echo]

The lanka is an old version of snipetron

[brittle siren]

well corpus tend to copy Tenno weapon, idk I may be wrong

[peak vigil]

John prodman always win

[peak vigil]

Wasn’t it the other way around?

[tall echo]

One or the other idk

[tall echo]

Neither is a tenno weapon

[brittle siren]

the Vandal has Lotus logo on it so I assumed it was Tenno's

[peak vigil]

That’s just a feature of vandal weapons

They get lotus logos on them

[narrow pendant]

the normal snipetron is the exact same image as lanka i just didnt happen to have it

[brittle siren]

yeah

[narrow pendant]

if not same weapon, have you ever seen both in the same room

[normal mountain]

Snipetron is old Corpus sniper
Lanka is new Corpus sniper, made because "Corpus use energy weapons" and Snipetron shoots physical rounds

[pallid spoke]

Other way around. Lanka replaced Snipetron.

[normal mountain]

I had regular Snipetron once
Don't recall how I got it, but I had it

[tall echo]

Snipetron regularly shows up with plague star

[normal mountain]

Nay, it wasn't Plague Star

That I know for a fact

[pallid spoke]

I find it funny that it took so long for the Braton to get reskinned into it's current iteration compared to the Lanka replacing Snipetron, because it originally used to be a Corpus weapon that used physical munitions as well.

[drowsy saddle]

No, they're Vandallized versions of the original

[brittle siren]

Star day could have one too

[brittle siren]

but who Vandallized them

[drowsy saddle]

Us, the Lotus as a hobby, the ventkids?

[tall echo]

Tenno

[fast dew]

Yet again, another devstream w out a loid mention. Reckon the floofs will at least involve Loid?

[brittle siren]

although for some reason I thought he already have 1, must have been Mandela Effect

[fast dew]

Nah he's probably the creator of the floofs, and he's seen in quotes for Arthur's, Bird's and Tagfer's

[brittle siren]

I feel like that he kinda the type of person not value himself much, hence no floof of himself

[strange plinth]

what had to happen for Loid to make a Roathe floof

[fast dew]

Nah loid isn't self deprecating, more. He's just tired

[brittle siren]

"he ask me to make him a floof or he will tell the family that I and Albrecht has old man yaoi"

[fast dew]

Very bitter thank you gift for getting him to reunite with the family

[fast dew]

Dawg grandmother knows 😭

[brittle siren]

I see

[strange plinth]

i could see that

[fast dew]

Like look at them

[brittle siren]

Lyon deserve a floof tbh

out of all proto he suffer the most, just because the voices in his head and "self harm" properties of Harrow

[strange plinth]

i love Lyon's second pupil (i forget the name of the condition) being included in this design

[fast dew]

Loid has learned how to use different fabrics it seems as well

[fast dew]

Polycoria?

[brittle siren]

we need a glyph of him knitting the floof

[strange plinth]

sounds right

[fast dew]

ITS CROCHET.

ITS NOT KNITTING

[brittle siren]

Cavia and Loid doesn't have glyph is strange

[fast dew]

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE

[fast dew]

The cavia have glyphs, just not ones you can access

[brittle siren]

sorry i'm not good at english

[fast dew]

Oh. Shit mb

[brittle siren]

nah, thanks for the word

[strange plinth]

gargoyle's cry, yea?

[fast dew]

Mhm.

Thats where we learned that Loid can draw

[brittle siren]

i wonder if Loid is the sole butler, or there is other helper in the household too

[brittle siren]

man I want these so much

[fast dew]

Albrecht had other assistants, but Loid was the head it seems, which is why I find it just so odd that it was him who was helping mother do so many things

There were other people

[brittle siren]

(not counting scientist and archimedean ofc)

[fast dew]

Loid's role wasn't even a butler

He was an Archimedian assistant, you'd think he'd only do shit regarding the science an Archimedian would do

[brittle siren]

I see

[fast dew]

I think he deadass just. Evolved into the butler one day

[brittle siren]

I could also see him as a father/mother figure to Euleria and her children too

[fast dew]

Like. He's getting Euleria dressed for school or some shit and he has a random moment of clarity
"... why am i dressing my boss' daughter??"

[brittle siren]

he really just replace Albrecht at this point

[fast dew]

He absolutely was

Like yeah theres a level of "maybe that was his job as a butler" but that does kinda dissolve from the whole. He wasn't even a butler originally

[brittle siren]

also it sweet that he at first depise Necraloid, but in EDA he shown that he do care about an AI that literally copy from his mind

[fast dew]

I like to think he came to the realisation it wasn't a malicious thing from Albrecht

"Oh Albrecht's just ass at understanding societal norms and thought this was a sweet gesture"

[brittle siren]

that sound better than my interpretation

[fast dew]

What was yours?

[brittle siren]

My thought that Loid was a little bit of jealous, or more like thinking Albrecht could just copy his mind and get things over with.

[fast dew]

... I fw that idea a lot more

Both kinda work at the same time I feel

Loid absolutely gets jealous about necraloid, and i kinda sense the same w kalymos but Loid looks like he misses kalymos

[brittle siren]

yeah

[fast dew]

I need to continue writing more Loid fanfic..

But ive had the wonderful idea of trying to write how Mother and Father met

No clue how but I feel as if it was. Like. Euleria picking Vilcor up like a little dog

[wind ruin]

Euleria Entrati and Petros Vorten

[fast dew]

Meanwhile Albrecht got picked up by Loid and hes on the verge of crying

[drowsy saddle]

Loid was basically the one in charge of waking everyone up on time lmoa

[fast dew]

Insert the line he has once completing whispers about how the entrati family are always late without him

Like. Albrecht's gotta talk to some high ranking orokin after the void incident, in regards to the reliquary drive (maybe Tuvul and the Zariman's?) And he's like. Asleep literally until the person is calling his ass

[drowsy saddle]

This is the real reason he's a social outcast, he just couldn't keep track of time

Mfr would show up late to his own presentation

[fast dew]

He wouldn't even do it, it evaded his thought bcs oo wall important

[drowsy saddle]

Invents time travel and is still frakin late

[brittle siren]

now we need Son and Daughter real name bomb

[narrow pendant]

no god above being late

[empty terrace]

Just finished the old peace. And all I can say is whenever I think I can't hate ballas more. DE are like : hold my beer

[fast dew]

Yeah

Ballas sucks

[empty terrace]

Just to get it right in the timeline it fits between zariman accident and margulis dying. So like it shows how old war started. Also I am not sure how tenno reached on tau moon. I thought zariman's purpose was to find a safer way to travel Tau and it failed so how did operator reached there with ||Adis|| in that academy. (Do I've to use spoilers to talk about new quest?)

[drowsy saddle]

Zariman is catch-all name for colony and terraforming ships sent to tau, the 10-0 specifically was sent because the orokin were getting impatient

This led a conflict between Tuvul and the crew, leading to Yonta's massive void jump and Hombask's sabotage of the food supply

[fast dew]

Id say nah, the quest is about a month and a bit old now, and adis has been known since. Like. November lol

[empty terrace]

So entire ballas fiasco is like this:
-Orokin mostly used all resources in origin system so they needed to find new system.
-they created sentients to go in Tau system

• ballas had no patience so he sent the zariman crew through the void jump. Jump failed and they got stuck in void.
• wally/indifference offered a deal.
• operator and other turned into tenno.
• they were rescued back. Margulis looked over them while ballas found "volunteers" around same time to create Warframes. Tenno were able to pilot those frames.
• somewhere down that line sentients turned well sentients and they wanted their own freedom and rights so they proposed treaty to Terraform Tau moon as their home.
• they sent operator and other working sentients like Adis in tauron.
• ballas used fake margulis voice and flaw in world seeder to end the treaty and blame it all on sentients and tenno and started old war.
• margulis was executed because she wanted to protect tenno.
• ballas got "change of heart" and helped sentients to end the war.
  -natah sealed tenno in Lua.
• game started and everything happened in new war.
• ballas wanted to use sun??
  -drifters paradox helped with operators situation.
• ballas ded.
• here comes the wally
• operator learned more about loid and Albrecht entrati. Entrati was in 1999
• natah sent drifter in 1999 and he's busy wooing up the Hex. And in latest quest they're using the eleven method to search in operators memories for location of Tao

[sharp igloo]

if i redo the second dream quest, when my operator first shows up, will it show the og suit, or will it use my fashion?

[strange plinth]

og suit until you get unmasked

[strange plinth]

essentially
only bit i can really point at is the warframes were made, went mad, and shelved before the zariman returned & the tenno were made to pilot them

[drowsy saddle]

It's unclear who was impatient over the zarimans, we only know that Tuvul was in charge of at least the 10-0

[strange plinth]

^ was more than likely tuvul as it was his project yea

[strange turtle]

Not just resources, but habitability too, and war happened before there was a treaty

[empty terrace]

I think I might have missed something but why are we exactly looking for the Tau system? I meant operator and lotus

[strange turtle]

Albrecht

[sharp igloo]

it’s probably best done through the video game, but i think a book or novel of warframes story would be really cool

[strange plinth]

"Tau is in sight"
albrecht is there or going there, for some reason

[strange turtle]

Also, now Lotus is interested in if there’s more “Healer” Sentients like Adis

[empty terrace]

I hope it's entire planetary system and not just some extra open level for next quest.

[sharp igloo]

if it’s another system, i really hope the enemies are actually tough. i get that warframe is like the overpowered fantasy, but having difficult bosses and tough enemies that aren’t just bullet sponges would be nice, esp for a whole new system

[empty terrace]

I saw the update notice yesterday and the March update is not gonna continue the old peace quest line

[drowsy saddle]

Probably just gonna use the perita tileset but with different textures?

It be a bit of a shame to only see the perita tileset in 1 gamemode that doesn't have evergreen resources

Im betting we'll see a much greener perita

[strange plinth]

for now, no
but that's still the echoes of old peace update, so there'll be bigger stuff later
big tau update is probably the end of year update

[drowsy saddle]

Also don't forget, DE is updating the tileset with new tiles ala what techrot encore did for höllvania

[strange plinth]

mhm. i'm curious what tiles will be added there

[fast dew]

And maybe we get a new proto... and we are getting a new frame!

[drowsy saddle]

I know a few existing ones have hidden caches inside the rock cliffs

[fast dew]

Did Temple get shown off as Flare first or as just Temple?

[drowsy saddle]

Probably something like that but for terminals for elite bosses?

[strange plinth]

temple, because rebb leaked that they had a gemini emote on a devshort

[fast dew]

Wonderful. So that gives me slight hope for Follie to have a proto....

I have the most weird suspicion that a lot of people won't treat her like they do for Hildryn

[strange turtle]

Wdym?

[drowsy saddle]

She's not muscle mommy

[fast dew]

Shes not muscular, thats just what she isn't. And as soon as some people realise that, they won't like her

She only looked muscular in the idle animations because it deadass wasn't her

[drowsy saddle]

Its Hildryn's body with gauss prime's head

[fast dew]

Mhm.

[drowsy saddle]

Kek

[fast dew]

I mainly want a proto for her bcs big woman and to piss folk off

[drowsy saddle]

If she ain't your type, then just goon to a different frame

[fast dew]

Like damn go be basic

[drowsy saddle]

Like she doesn't get my motor running, but damn i see the vision

[fast dew]

I think theres a distinctive way you can tell when someone was/is a lesbian via how they treat women they're attracted to i feel
-# im commenting on myself

[empty terrace]

I mean it's nice that they're giving different body types. I won't be lying but I started Warframe after certain game that turned into gooner shooter instead looter shooter

[fast dew]

Mm. Yea.

Its not even giving them unique body types, they could get away with it when they made Grendel

[drowsy saddle]

Im just glad so far the fanart I've seen haven't butchered her figure

[fast dew]

Also shout out to Mother for looking Masculine in a really interesting way

Im looking at her cuz im trying to draw her and she is distinctively masculine

[swift sentinel]

I'll defer to the artist, but I really don't see it.

[proper glen]

I'm still so impressed with 4mori4n, literally got a full drawing out and posted in like 20 minutes DURING THE STREAM lmao

[proper glen]

Yea it was weird, cus we could see the ink on the body, but it was clearly a Hildryn

[swift sentinel]

I wonder how Follie will look with her own idle rather than Gara's, which was really stretching out her torso.

[strange plinth]

was a hildryn with a gauss prime head, yea
they mentioned a placeholder model

[warm abyss]

i wasn't able to watch the devstream at the time, is follie gonna be like an inky frame? if you know what i mean

[proper glen]

Yea. Cus like it ain't gonna look much better with Valkyr Deluxe either (she stretches out her torso a lot)

[fast dew]

Im looking at her and she deadass looks like ballas in a way its. Uncomfortable?

[warm abyss]

in which case would white energy colour truly embrace freak frame

[swift sentinel]

Ink and paint themed

[fast dew]

So either ballas is feminine or Euleria is masculine

[proper glen]

Iirc they didn't say much about her kit, but Rebb specifically said she's a Mario 64 reference

[strange plinth]

i do not
but she is based around painting and ink, yea
64th frame is a reference to mario 64

[proper glen]

Tho I'll admit (and show my age here or lackthereof), the first thing I thought of when they showed her was Epic Mickey 😭

[strange plinth]

just that it prevented the coders from making any augments for other frames, apparently

[warm abyss]

i see, by inky i mean like she splatters ink all over the place w her moves, kinda like how oraxia spits out webs etc

[fast dew]

Ykwhat I see it

[proper glen]

Thank you.
Not even Bendy, which fits the horror elements (given its a destroyed relay), freaking Epic Mickey lmfao

[strange plinth]

ah
no detail on her abilities yet, unfortunately. likely will be shown off next devstream

[swift sentinel]

Gun to my head, Ballas has softer features

[fast dew]

Somehow this doesnt shock me 😭 maybe cuz bendy wasn't particularly about painting?

I played that game on my... wii? I think?

[proper glen]

Yea true, true. But still

[fast dew]

God its been a long time

[proper glen]

Yep, Epic Mickey was a Wii game

[strange plinth]

i mean. i wouldn't call ballas super masculine tbf
but i can also see what you mean w/ euleria

[proper glen]

Broski I grew up playing Skylanders Swap Force on that thing back in the day

[fast dew]

I also played the shit out of rayman origins, shit was painful

[fast dew]

Like her wiki photo. Idk what it is, but she is. Like. Vaguely masc. Like a softball lesbian......

[fast dew]

I had a 2DS it was peak

The concept of giving Albrecht a gameboy....

[proper glen]

Yea, tho Ballas usually has clothes (even in the New War preludes as erras """sl^ve""" I could've sworn he had something) so that definitely helps him out

[fast dew]

Dw you can say slave

[proper glen]

Bro give him an Xbox 360 Kinect lol

[fast dew]

He was... weirdly good at that

[fast dew]

I HAD ONE TOO

[proper glen]

Wasn't sure if it was against server rules

[proper glen]

I didn't but I saw vids lol

[fast dew]

Most of the shit that happens in warframe is allowed. Just dont be overly gross about it

[proper glen]

Yea fair

[fast dew]

Ie like suggesting what happened to the Dax Dagath was

Not grandma, the warframe

[drowsy saddle]

If i were a gambling man, id bet that albrecht invented tamogachis

[proper glen]

Yea. Her lore is screwed up from what I remember

[strange plinth]

i don't think he does while he has the collar on
might not be remembering correctly but i remember being able to see the split in his body and the gold(?) decoration around his shoulder during those scenes
n after i just remember that stupid narmer hat

[proper glen]

Plus shes like the only frame with a proper face (pre-glassing) besides Mirage Prime, and even that Mirage only has the eyes. Dagaths mask had a full on FACE face too

[drowsy saddle]

A creepy one, but still

[proper glen]

God that narmer hat somehow made him even more punchable

[proper glen]

Yeah

[fast dew]

Consider if you will

Orokin couple having a extra partner, that being a Dax.

What do we learn in the war within? Dax can't defy kuva holders (usually orokin)

So, you can see where the Dax being a sexual partner who physically cannot say no to her other "partners" gets a bit iffy.

[drowsy saddle]

I understand not wanting to look at it, but i think a laser cannon to the face is overkill

Just like... Get her a veil like Khora

[strange plinth]

bro made and wore that by choice

[swift sentinel]

I mean, the whole point was to kill her

[proper glen]

Yeah exactly. Plus the other Grandmother decoration stories talk about Kuva bodyswap bs too. Poor Dagath man :(

[drowsy saddle]

Just because you turned her into a blow-up doll doesn't mean you should literally blow her up

[proper glen]

They're just being literal smh (/s)

[fast dew]

Mhm. And theres ballas calling a child a Nymph. Something notoriously promiscuous and sexual. Calling a child that.

Yeah the orokin had.

Issues.

[swift sentinel]

That's what you do when you're done with your toys

[proper glen]

Insert the Ballas edit over IslandBoy saying "Come to my Orokin Tower" here

[drowsy saddle]

Strap it to a fence post and fire 50 cal rounds at it?

[fast dew]

Albrecht and his arranged marriage too

[proper glen]

You don't say 😭

[drowsy saddle]

He also planned on continuitying into her...

[fast dew]

He didnt even particularly cared for her

[swift sentinel]

Nymph isn't inherently sexual, especially with the flowery way DE writes dialogue.

It just means young in context

[fast dew]

No, its not, but historically it is, especially in the current day context. "Fatuous Nymph." DE absolutely knew the alternative meaning.

[proper glen]

Wasn't that for Yareli too? Like Yareli was gonna be another Continuity for him but she flipped him off basically, so he decides to put her into the Warframe program because he is the most petty and spiteful character in gaming

[swift sentinel]

"Fatous nymph" is literally, "silly girl"

[drowsy saddle]

DE is pulling no punches to make ballas as hateable as possible

Unfathomably based

[drowsy saddle]

Yeah

[proper glen]

Even after he was LITERALLY MELTED IN THE SUN they found a way to make him even more hateable

[proper glen]

That's what I figured. Ty ty

[proper glen]

I must've somehow missed this, but knowing Orokin yea arranged marriage is completely in the realms of bs they'd do

[fast dew]

Its. Not really normal for them actually (this is newer lore)

They weren't really for marriages, they were rather against monogamy

[proper glen]

OH WAIT right

[fast dew]

So. No clue why they thought marrying Albrecht off to a random woman would do anything

[proper glen]

I guess they wanted him out of their hair?
Even tho doing this technically led to the end of everything for them (good riddance lol)

[drowsy saddle]

Unfortunately tism cannot be cured with a woman

[proper glen]

PFFT

Sorry, just funny out of context

[fast dew]

Nymphs featured in classic works of art, literature, and mythology. They are often attendants of goddesses and frequently occur in myths with a love motif, being the lovers of heroes and other deities. Desirable and promiscuous, nymphs can rarely be tamed, their dealings with mortals often marked by capricious aggression. Since the Middle Ages, nymphs have been sometimes popularly associated or even confused with fairies.

While theres the other definition, its also not the best

Modern usage more often applies to young women, contrasting with parthenos "a virgin (of any age)", and generically as kore "maiden, girl". The term is sometimes used by women to address each other and remains the regular Modern Greek term for "bride".

From Wikipedia the goat
||https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nymph||

[fast dew]

Deadass what they thought. I don't think they considered that he might be in love with the butler and still acts the way he does

[proper glen]

Yea fr

[fast dew]

Also he might just be autistic. Its concerning sometimes

He has like. That many Onlyne CDs

Mm, about 30?

Mind you they only have like. 3 released songs 😭

[proper glen]

Nah that's just my sister lol (I got her into this game by making her listen to their 2 songs)

She's now MR27 and has around 1k hours since March last year

[proper glen]

Oh absolutely, there's no way he isnt. And if DE says he isn't they are LYING lol

[fast dew]

A bit younger than me then, neat. I started in October of 2024, before the hex dropped :D

.. younger and a higher MR 💔

[proper glen]

Tbf she is unemployed ATM due to injury stuff (tho she's getting a job soon cus she is pretty much better so yay)

[fast dew]

Like its. So obvious. But I deadass dont know if DE realised they wrote a high functioning autistic adult 😭 they did it on purpose with Rell, but he was specifically low functioning

[proper glen]

LOL

[fast dew]

Im. Also unemployed and not injured 😭

Damn i just suck/j

[proper glen]

Just roll your ankle that'll do it

Tho she had like hairline fractures n all that fun stuff

[fast dew]

I lied, i am injured my legs dont work properly bcs I walk weird 💔 my lateral meniscus loves to swell up and piss me off
-# forgor that it counts sometimes

I am overall not physically okay but they're not injuries imo

Shit is just not functional

[brittle siren]

unrelated to lore, but what do you guys think about this signa

[proper glen]

Im diagnosed autistic high functioning and yea both Loid and Albrecht radiate autism energy (they probably made the Cavia autistic by proxy /j)

[proper glen]

Oh naur D: I hope it's not too painful, or the meds at least work

[fast dew]

Nah i feel as if Loid is like. Maybe BDP but medicated or ADHD

Like, adult adhd, I feel

[proper glen]

It looks like a little hat, I love it

[proper glen]

Ahhh fair

[fast dew]

Im seeing a rheumatologist soon, so hopefully I can figure out why its doing this other than "general hypermobility" 😭

[proper glen]

But yea Albrecht is high functioning but had (and has) a poor support system (i.e. found family), even with Loid.

[proper glen]

Your bones and muscles are unionizing oh god oh fu--

[fast dew]

IT FEELS LIKE THAT.

[fast dew]

I like to imagine that its partially Albrecht's fault for not being able to actually let himself be vulnerable enough to allow the support system to actually function

Also, I feel as if you'd enjoy this

Loid canonically can draw

And he's good at it

[proper glen]

Oh ABSOLUTELY

[brittle siren]

99% he help drew Duviri

[proper glen]

Wait, did he draw the diagrams and such on the Sanctum walls maybe?

[brittle siren]

sadly only his fake corpse is there

[fast dew]

I hope so, it matches the art style

[brittle siren]

I dont think so since Albrecht can still drew them in the backroom by himself

[fast dew]

Along with the cavia rank ups

OH. WRONG ONE

[proper glen]

Oh absolutely, especially given Albrechts own family acts as a literal in-universe narrator for Duviri as a whole

[fast dew]

Figured you meant the requiem logs for some reaosn

[brittle siren]

he help Ballas drew Natah trust /j

[proper glen]

True true. Maybe he at least helped?

[fast dew]

Fun fact, Duviri is based on the childhood stories he told Mother when she was little :)

[brittle siren]

how... he never been to 1999

[fast dew]

We. Dont actually know that

[brittle siren]

well Albrecht need a pod to go there and, well, there's only one

[proper glen]

Nono, I mean Loid helped Entrati do the wall art in the Sanctum. It's a BIG space after all

[fast dew]

Loid mentions something about "backroom boys beavering away"

So. Theres. Someone???

[fast dew]

He can go in after, it seems to be capable of a person using it by themselves

We know the hex never met Loid, but i can't imagine Albrecht functions well without Loid.

Also where the hell did he sleep

On the couch??

[brittle siren]

also side note, I heard someone theorized that the smashed pod is like Schrödinger's cat.

[proper glen]

I'm hoping against hope that somehow Follie (new girl on the block lol) is somehow involved, given her inky theme, but I'm sadly probably wrong.
Cus even tho shes monochrome, who knows what she was like before Watframification
If there even WAS a before given they went to the busted up relay

[brittle siren]

so basically Albrecht corpse may or may have been inside there- /j

[fast dew]

Like it both has Albrecht and doesn't have Albrecht in it? Serving as a limbo of sorts

As in Albrecht is simultaneously in the sarcophagus in current day and in 1999?

Well, until he's not

[unique aspen]

That'd be a fun connection, I can see it

[proper glen]

I mean, the pager thing (forgot the name) CAN reach from 1999 to now. Lotus had one for a while following Lotus Eaters, and in the direct leadup, the pager you got as a decoration would have messages from Arthur trying to figure out who nicked it

So they can at least chat that way possibly

[fast dew]

She is directly related to the old peace or the triad, both are related to Albrecht in some way

[fast dew]

... Albrecht stole shit once again

You have no idea how often he does that

He has a clothing store man.

[proper glen]

God I wanna talk Outer Wilds dlc spoilers cuz of this cus it reminds me of something SUPER similar 😭
But that game is genuinely top 10 stories ever made in a game so I wonr

[fast dew]

The area the backrooms are in, is called "Timeless Style".

He had a clothing store called timeless style.

[fast dew]

Mm, explain, I aint too fussed about spoilers

Albrecht also probably stole the atomicycles, he stole cars and hijacked a train

He also probably stole the helminth strains from ballas

[brittle siren]

it still impressive that he could make a timeless room like the one that Triad is in

[fast dew]

He smuggled the cavia in too

Why is Albrecht like this

Look at those cars

[brittle siren]

those poor car, it's someone whole fortune in the 90'

[fast dew]

And he stole 3 of them.

[proper glen]

Actually wait, this isn't as similar as I thought. Nvm oops :(

[fast dew]

Nawh its all good

[brittle siren]

there could be more too, we don't know if he put some in another timeless space

[fast dew]

Not the first time ive had a game be weirdly similar to warframe in a singular specific aspect

[proper glen]

At minimum

So he's an autistic scientist who accidentally made a god(?) and is also a Kleptomaniac (he stole the finger /s)

[brittle siren]

sitting in a chair and sipping tea while looking at a floating and rotating car

[proper glen]

LOL

[fast dew]

Like classic Doom and having deimos getting yoinked into a realm between realms because of rich people.

This also happened in warframe, with deimos.

[fast dew]

Mhm. He's... a character for sure.

[proper glen]

Yep xD

[fast dew]

Like, his desk is covered in. Things.

Ignore lyon

[proper glen]

Tho he's INSANELY reflective and such. Like his stuff in the Requiem things where he talks about what happened in the Bell, and after, he has clearly thought V E R Y long about all this

[fast dew]

Pizza crusts, Coffee cups, sour sweets... why does he eat like a 18 year old

[fast dew]

Have you read his notes?

You learn a few things.

He does drugs with Loid

[proper glen]

That doesn't surprise me at all xD

[fast dew]

But besides that, you kinda learn he doesn't particularly think highly of himself

Maybe tried to off himself?

[brittle siren]

I heard someone irl said to me that older ppl are, the more childish they are

[fast dew]

Thinks that Loid is above him, and that he is unworthy of Loid. Which is wild for any orokin. An orokin doesn't simply think they're below a "regular" person

[proper glen]

Yeah

[fast dew]

You also learn that he thinks if Oro exists, his cat would have it

[proper glen]

Probably
Tho that feeling may have been amplified after the Bell. Like, he went in, accidentally made a god or woke it up, and nearly died returning.

[proper glen]

Oro is a weird Soul thing in game right

[fast dew]

I was meaning his time in Duviri after the cavia :) "I must atone for what I had done through my own blood" doesn't particularly scream im not gonna harm myself

[fast dew]

It seems? Which he dismisses animals having. Except for his cat.

[proper glen]

OH okok
Yea

[fast dew]

Lemme get you the link to his notes

[proper glen]

I would say that's just him loving his cat, but like
Kalymos is definitely intelligent at the very least

[pale cedar]

He’s just being a pet owner who doesn’t want a dead pet

[proper glen]

Didn't Loid imply that he cloned her at some point because she got sick

[brittle siren]

He with Kalymos:

[fast dew]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Albrecht_Entrati/Quotes

Just read the notes

[strange plinth]

vaguely, but not confirmed

[fast dew]

He assumes it, but he is unsure. He didn't care enough to look into it.

[brittle siren]

void magic

the cat can just become void orb and immortal

[proper glen]

Yea
That is, uh, not normal lmao

[fast dew]

Also thats. A whole thing i have an issue with when it comes to the idea that Albrecht cloned Loid for necraloid

Like. Yeah thats possible but. Clones don't preserve memories, do they?

[brittle siren]

she also able to detect infested

[fast dew]

Well that is a kavat's explicit job

[brittle siren]

well maybe the same method with Ballas díd on Margulis

[brittle siren]

I forgot that any Kavat ability, since Khora cat also able to do the same

[fast dew]

Which is just. Memory copying into a construct, much like it would be with necraloid. Maybe thats what Mother meant by necralized? Though, she did assume he was dead...

[fast dew]

Yeah, Kavats are bred to eat and kill infestation iirc

[proper glen]

Necraloid is so weird. Like, he's a Cephalon, and he is either a REALLY good program or an outright soul. But like
Loid is still alive. He somehow like duped his soul??? Idk

It hurts my brain sometimes, this game xD

[brittle siren]

Yeah I think she meant that Loid is become Cephalon, necralized is just fancy word because Necraloid using Necramech material

[fast dew]

We did learn that glassing can be done without killing the person, and we deny that Necraloid has a soul iirc

[brittle siren]

Though if Glassing is a punishment, it must have been very painful isn't it

[fast dew]

Yeah wait till you learn that Loid is at a minimum of 60 years old, before cryo. Amazing skincare, loid has.

[brittle siren]

so maybe the copy process is for those who volunteer like Suda

painless

[fast dew]

Mhm. Really painful, but it sometimes isnt?

No clue what Nihil would do differently

[brittle siren]

I mean Nihil know how to glassed himself and able to act like he still a living

[proper glen]

Isn't nihil that guy trapped in a tiny pedestal thingy you can buy as a Nightwave deco lol

[brittle siren]

I think Nihil find another way to glass himself without really harming him

[fast dew]

Yeah, you can fight him

Wife... hes so pretty...

[proper glen]

He's an Orokin 🔨 bonk

[fast dew]

!!

[proper glen]

Wait HES where those shoulder pads come from
F R I C K

[fast dew]

Yeah

Ugly ass shoulder pads 😭

[proper glen]

Nah I love em

[fast dew]

They work with very certain things

[proper glen]

Tho I don't ever use em.
They do look good on Gyre tho imo

[fast dew]

I feel as if Roathe could work

[strange plinth]

only on the one side iirc
-# tho tbf almost nothing works on Uriel's shoulders

[proper glen]

Maybe
Tho I do gotta wonder
How the hell did Albrecht just yoink an Orokin commander out of an active war and next to nobody notice
Like did he jump him while he was taking a dump 😭

[fast dew]

Imagine it w the new rendition of the tennocon Cape tho...

[fast dew]

... have you done the kimchats?

[strange plinth]

this is actually answered in the 21st VM

[fast dew]

And how much do you care for spoilers

[proper glen]

I can't be asked to do that much Descendia 😭

[strange plinth]

mmm

[fast dew]

Kinda need to for his good ending unfortunately

[strange plinth]

its just the last boss fight you have to do tbf, not the full 21 floors 21 times

[proper glen]

Dangit

[fast dew]

To get loid upstairs to the family again

[brittle siren]

you just need to fight Roathe, no need to do the 21 floor

[proper glen]

Oh

[brittle siren]

and normal path is count too

[fast dew]

Just do pubs and hope you don't get nuked by him randomly bcs folk dont know how to deal w his attacks

[brittle siren]

I love his mechanic, especially the insta kill

at least it not nullifier

[fast dew]

Hes why I play jade for it.

[proper glen]

Jade rocks

Love her playstyle

[fast dew]

Genuinely one of the best femme designs

[strange plinth]

the two that matter are literally just
keep moving
move into the glyphs

[brittle siren]

and dodge the brimstone cone

[fast dew]

Yeah and people dont move into the glyphs, so I play as jade to get em bcs they're useless.

[brittle siren]

the thing that most ppl will kinda struggle most is brimstone and the one that he do the Zephyr 1

[strange plinth]

fair ig
-# played a perita rebellion mission yesterday where i was the only one contributing to the orders until the last one aghh

[brittle siren]

do it solo, pub is just hell due to how overscaled the order is

[proper glen]

Yea

[strange plinth]

occasionally i like having randoms in the squad, occasionally they do Absolutely Nothing
'tis a balance

[brittle siren]

12 ammo, but only 2 can spawn at a time

[proper glen]

I encountered more leeches during the event than ever before lol

[brittle siren]

and if you holding one, new one can't spawn

[proper glen]

Or the one with the Nodes that just don't drop from enemies

I did like 50 runs of the rebellion and honestly I wish I'd thought to just do it solo instead

Anyway uhhhh lore

[brittle siren]

the lore is Perita war suck

[proper glen]

Real

Like poor operator jfc

[bright temple]

lore is albrecht deserves at least one good punch to the jaw

[oblique basin]

better yet, wisdom teeth removed with no pain pills

[bright temple]

That can done with one good punch to the jaw

[brittle siren]

Well I will let Tagfer headbutt into his belly and Loid will slap Albrecht

[bright temple]

I will followup with the overhead suplex

he’ll be fine we have the technology to rebuild him

[oblique basin]

this mental image is amazing

[bright temple]

Albrecht deserves a few concussions

As a treat

[fast dew]

Id reckon that even if Loid is going to slap him, he'd probably still protect Albrecht again

[bright temple]

That’s fine, Loid keeping him close keeps Albrecht within punching/suplex distance