lore-discussion

[glacial bear]

Also the idea he can be as good as lavos is insane

[strange plinth]

their, yea

[tall echo]

Sometimes better

[glacial bear]

Well then I'm excited lol

[tall echo]

But temple is less like... statically durable than lavos

Lavos doesn't need much to tank, for temple you need to cast their 3 every now and then

[glacial bear]

I assume the weapons are drop able from stage defense

[tall echo]

It's like both are cannons, but temple is made from slightly worse metal

[tall echo]

Which ones

[glacial bear]

Temples weapons

[tall echo]

Oh temple only has one

[strange plinth]

yea riot-848 drops from stage defense as well

[tall echo]

But yes it drops from stage defense

[stiff isle]

ah shit, what now

[tall echo]

It's fun, haven't used it enough to make a proper build to see how it does though

[drowsy saddle]

Beat the crap out of him via Descendia

[tall echo]

21 descendia?

[stiff isle]

already did that

do i gotta do it again?

[tall echo]

Also, "monarch of the monarch"?

[stiff isle]

tis an old name, from an older age

[tall echo]

Nah reset time or wait for one of the other two to help

In. The opposite order.

[stiff isle]

okay

[tall echo]

3am, excuse my brain being slow

[stiff isle]

okay, i was worried about resetting since im on good standing with the other two

and i dont wanna lose my pookie marie

[tall echo]

Marie makes me want to teach her russian roulette with a loaded revolver sometimes but I get that

[sly swan]

i have question about the lore, if valkyr is a warframe whose abilities centered around being vengeful from being tortured; why would her prime have the same abilities? wouldn't she technically be a different frame? also, similar for xaku, being made from broken frames why would a prime xaku exist?

[strange plinth]

valkyr prime could've easily been tortured as well
xaku was more than likely primed after they returned from the void

[lean garden]

Consider: Valkyr was always as such, and salad V just tortured her without doing much difference

[sly swan]

ok, then this leads to my next question. How do the warframes have a unique personality to that warframe? since warframes are essentially puppets?

[sly swan]

i guess thats fair

[strange plinth]

and now i kinda have to ask where you are in the quest progression

[sly swan]

heading into the new war

i know warframes are infected and mutated people

[strange plinth]

ok, you've done the sacrifice, then
the warframes were people, and the ones we make are just.. reconstructions of those people

[sly swan]

but aren't they essentially hollow? like no one is inside

personality wise

[lean garden]

you'll get more info when you get to the KIMs after completing The Hex

[strange plinth]

dormant, yes, but the fragments remain. mannerisms n such

[lean garden]

provided you chat it right up

[sly swan]

do these mannerisms influence the tenno operating them since most tenno are kinda lucid dreaming aside from our operator?

[strange plinth]

tbf its safe to say that after TSD, the other operators were also taken out of the reservoir
but yea, somewhat. like Bau said, there's more detail on that post-Hex

[sly swan]

ok, this is probably a spoiler, but is stalker, jade, and umbra kinda sentient without tenno operating them?

i say kinda cause stalker talks in broken or dumbed down english

[strange plinth]

stalker has been hinted at being a sapient warframe, yea
more detail in jade shadows
umbra, yes. that's what his quest is about. the memory that keeps him in control, albeit angry

full spoiler answer: ||yea, all 3, though not the jade you're able to construct||

[sly swan]

k, thanks yall!

[proper barn]

their also lizzie is she which is intresting in it's own way.

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[waxen mesa]

Lol what happened

[strange plinth]

another hacked account posting the same thing they always do lol
been a few today

[waxen mesa]

The elon musk thing?

[strange plinth]

mhm

[waxen mesa]

Well here's a lore question to get things back on track

How much of a child is the Operator

For the sake of the discussion let's assume mental development is entirely paused when in cryosleep

[sterile spear]

around 12-13 years old?

there isnt any exact numbers tho

[waxen mesa]

i mean meantally

physically we don't even know if they can age

[strange plinth]

rell

[dense nest]

Old war seems last centuries. If warframe active then mentaly centuries old

[waxen mesa]

I still have to replay chains of Harrown

[strange plinth]

the tenno were only active for a portion of it, though

[gentle isle]

All we can say is all that trauma messed us up good

[waxen mesa]

If I get the timeline right

Zariman incident -> creation of sentients -> sentients go to tau -> war declared -> warframes made, winds up going nowhere -> tenno reappear -> warframes find a use

that is to say. The tenno only came into the picture once the war had been going

[strange plinth]

warframes were made and were useful, until they turned of their own volition or via infested madness
but the tenno only came in right before the old peace, and were only fully active for that time before they were put into the second dream by margulis

[gentle isle]

And even then our sleeping minds were put to work in the war

A dream so long we nearly forgot who we were when we woke up

[waxen mesa]

to be fair that dream also included being put into double cryosleep for thousands of years

probably a bit groggy upon being reactivated

[gentle isle]

We were also in the frames long enough to think we were the frames themselves

So add dissociation on top of trauma 😂

These poor kids

[strange plinth]

indeed

[drowsy saddle]

Damn shame that most warframe fanfics focus on the drifter tongue jousting different protoframes

Would be neat to explore the psychology of an operator that isn't just feral child

[gentle isle]

i mean hey more power to the drifter lol

[strange plinth]

be the change you want to see in the world, go write

[drowsy saddle]

The couple of mass effect crossovers are funny tho

Shame the longest one is old, like real old

[waxen mesa]

so was the whole point of Roathe getting protoframed that Entrati wanted to see if he could be redeemed.

because if Roathe could find redemption, that means that he could too

[strange plinth]

mhm

[drowsy saddle]

That means i gotta pull out the mass effect trilogy again... Which... Isn't that bad now that i think of it

[gentle isle]

the only thing about mass effect i know about is how andromeda got memed to hell

[drowsy saddle]

Commander shepherd but now she has an Oraxia to help her

[strange plinth]

tbf the biggest issue with that is the operator doesn't have many people around them, and especially not that they're on a similar level to

[drowsy saddle]

Make OC SoPs and Liches

Literal found family

[coral mirage]

Stalker is completely sentient, he speaks to you. Creepely but he does.
And there is no way Sirius is not sentient, i mean, he was literally given birth to

[gentle isle]

||it's thanks to ballas one of our only friends is dead 😭 ||

[drowsy saddle]

||Shotgun wedding graduation boywife dies after first marital fight||

Damn you ballas

[strange plinth]

yup.

[coral mirage]

Rell was as close as we got, and the poor kid suffered post humously

[gentle isle]

||"wait am i getting married rn?"
looks at adis
"i do"||

[strange plinth]

-# that person hasn't done jade shadows as of that message lol

[strange plinth]

barely interacted with him, even then

[coral mirage]

WHOOPS

[waxen mesa]

entering spoiler zone channels is a bad idea if you can be spoiled

[coral mirage]

True.
Wouldnt surprise me if Wally throws an Evil us eventually because it would be an easy to set up boss battle.
But we dont really interact with a lot of Operators, and that one cutscene with Space Mom left me intrigued

[waxen mesa]

just sayin.

[coral mirage]

Now, I missed pretty much everything to do with Roathe... I did the Descent quest, but Im totally lost here since I usually play at night (after either working all day or working out all day)

So, I take it Al messed with him, he is tortured because he committed some kind of sins.

How did we go from Spacia Asia / Greece to Judeo Christian Purgatory

ill read the wiki if it is too much

[strange plinth]

most of his story is in the VMs you get by beating him in descendia
21 VMs in total

[coral mirage]

ah

[gentle isle]

once we get to tau one of our main objectives will probably be ||finding a new sentient with healing powers
i'd hope we can be friends with em too but knowing our luck they might have all sorts of anti-orokin and/or anti-tenno sentiment over there
it'll be the operator's turn to be the stubborn befriender ||

[coral mirage]

We got Kahl to eventually side our way, thats kind of our shtick

Also, Clem

[gentle isle]

we still better pick up some tips from the drifter on how to rizz just in case 😌

[coral mirage]

Huh, come to think of it, has any of the Corpus minus the one dude that sacrificed himself joined us?
Not talking Vox naturally, but a former enemy turning

[gentle isle]

don't think so

[strange plinth]

not really, no. temporary allies and back to status quo

[dense nest]

Darvo

[coral mirage]

wait, there was that one that had us argue withs aving a little girl who was supposed to be Infested Immuune, Lotus and Him were arguing about it and you choose how she wants to live her life

[gentle isle]

ergo glast technically counts

[coral mirage]

thats him

[strange plinth]

mm. Darvo works with us but isn't particularly an ally. he's an arms dealer, he sells weapons to whoever

[gentle isle]

almost forgot about the syndicates

actually you can also count converted sisters

[waxen mesa]

The conclusion of Roathe's story has him realizing ||Entrati never stole his memories and turned him into a protoframe. He asked Entrati to suppress his memories and turn him into a protoframe||

I assume the general thought process was 'clean slate new start'

[proper barn]

does rell age or just get too old?

[gentle isle]

rell separated their consciousness from their body and basically lived in the warframe harrow for a long time, hard to say

[proper barn]

well his body did die.

[gentle isle]

a long time ago yea

[coral mirage]

If I recall right, The Red Veil found his body, but because Rell was suffereing AND had to keep Wally in check, he constantly lived in his Warframe.
Eventually his biological body died, it's conjecture, but it's possible Red Veil didnt have any Tenno Tech at all.
So things like our Orbiter werent going to house Rell.
So it spells out there is a way for Operators to pass away

[glacial bear]

||So do we think that w'ere going back to tau?||

[strange plinth]

less think more know
last tennocon showed Tau 2026
but even just in-game stuff, the endings of The Hex and The Old Peace point towards it

[glacial bear]

Thjat's kinda what I figured but I wasn't sure if it was confirmed. Do we think it's going to be an update like say Orb Valis sized or do you guys think we get a whole new system

[strange plinth]

i peronally hope it'll be a full system star chart, even if its not all at once, but that doesn't match with previous expansions (hub w/ missions around it)

[glacial bear]

but this is something i think marits a way out fo the box thinking

I'd be alright if it launched with 1/2 hubs and they added missiosns around each of them as if a planet comes in

[drowsy saddle]

Hopefully its a full planets worth of nodes, rather than the 6 piece pack of nuggets like the Zariman, Sanctum, and 1999

[glacial bear]

Personally I thinkn those updates were big for what they added under the hood you know what I mean

[drowsy saddle]

Give 1999 fissures

Omnia legacyte capture

[glacial bear]

like you want relic missions to pop theree

[drowsy saddle]

Yes

[normal mountain]

I would rather not have fissures in 1999
But more because I don't want to stress out the Hex any more than they already are

[drowsy saddle]

Lv 250 Technocyte fissures

[strange plinth]

the hex will be fine~
Viktor, however-

[normal mountain]

...okay, that would be fun to see

[drowsy saddle]

I mean its technocyte, unless... Fissure tank?

Scaldra survival fissures would also be funny

[normal mountain]

Reminds me
Base Hellscrub could use more enemy density
Or a higher drop rate for the air cleaner stuff from enemies

[drowsy saddle]

Tbh Arthur wouldn't really mind corrupted techrot, scaldra maybe, big if tho

[drowsy saddle]

Nah, the whole point is to make you either babysit the scrubber or slam the babau

[normal mountain]

Running around with support constantly hovering below 50% gives me anxiety

[drowsy saddle]

Normal survival is too generous with life support, every long term survival always ends up with a dozen unused pods

[drowsy saddle]

Then just pop the scrubber immediately at 70%

Maybe for scaldra survival enemy density is a bit thin, but techrot survival is flooded

[normal mountain]

Hmm
Maybe it was changed since I last touched it

[strange turtle]

Holy shit I thought I was the only one

They’re from XX99, which is totally ambiguous and definitely not 1899

[fast dew]

The scariest thing is, he would do that

Oh, yeah Albrecht isnt an antagonist, he does do antagonistic shit, that is true, but he is ultimately trying to help us

[wind ruin]

Sentients first. Tuvul decides to one-up Ballas and gets the Zariman 10-0 project going. His mismanagement causes the Zariman to suffer a void jump mishap. Zariman is wiped from most public records. Sentients complete the Tau solar rail and open it. The Orokin happen to Tau, the Sentients object and inflict a series of utterly one-sided losses on the Orokin. Ballas makes Warframes. Warframes are uncontrollable for any length of time. Zariman kids get rescued. Margulis takes them in as patients. Tenno are discovered to be naturally able to calm and direct the Warframes; Tenno pressed into combat, the Orokin start winning fights. The Old Peace happens, then the ceasefire is broken. At some point after this, Hunhow invades the Origin System. Margulis is executed, Ballas turns traitor, the Night of Naga Drums happens and Executors are hunted down and killed. The Tenno go to sleep under the Lotus' protective embrace.

[fast dew]

Albeit some of the shit he does is super funny

Hm how do I help redeem myself

Oh I know. * kidnaps a random orokin *

[lean garden]

not just the Zariman 10-0, its all the Zarimans

[fast dew]

Just as a whole, the Zariman project

[lean garden]

such as the lovely Zariman 5s which are the worldseeders

[fast dew]

Tuvul owned all of them, right?

It was his project

[wind ruin]

The Zarimans other than the 10-0 were intended to assist the terraforming. It was the 10-0 that was Tuvul's specific project.

[lean garden]

the Zariman project was started because the sentients were taking too long

all of them

not just the 10

[brittle siren]

huh that interesting, i thought they was the first project and only until Zariman 10 failed, Ballas start to send Sentient

[wind ruin]

Could be, not enough information available on the specifics. But Tuvul's ego was directly and personally involved with the 10-0, and the colonists were only told that 'autonomous drones' were prepping the way in Tau.

[fast dew]

10-0 typically means it was the first in the 10th series

I dont see why it would be someone else on the other series of Zariman

I wonder if thats the number convention Albrecht uses for the cavia too?

[wind ruin]

Too big a project overall. All the Executors agreed to fund and support it.

[lean garden]

It wouldnt say its much of a could be since Adrian Bott did say "the Zariman Project" with regards to what came because the sentients were "slow" to some orokin.

As for where tuvuls hands lay, we, as you said, only know it was definitely with the 10

[fast dew]

Iirc its was expedition 3-1 for our current cavia

So. 3rd series, second try? Or first, depending if you note the first one as 0 and the second as 1

[strange turtle]

You sure it wasn’t Expedition 3-3?

[fast dew]

Im gonna beat you with a baguette./j

Its just

So odd that theres a finite amount of cavia

Where Albrecht says mountains, theres like. Depending on how you interpret that number, a smaller amount

[brittle siren]

I mean most them prob dead from his experiment during Old War

or even before that

[fast dew]

... yes I know

We know they're dead

Im just curious on the amount bcs it seems to he a very finite amount now

[brittle siren]

you said "so odd", what do you mean by that

[fast dew]

Just that there's a rough number now that might not match the amount Albrecht suggested

[brittle siren]

I mean considered how many infested on Deimos, there's prob a lot

[fast dew]

... we're talking about cavia, the animals... that weren't infested...

[brittle siren]

infested need a living thing or at least a machine as a host

[fast dew]

The other animals were incinerated iirc

[brittle siren]

what I mean here is, Deimos could be bountiful with animals pre infested bomb

[fast dew]

... were they incinerated? I think someone mentions the proper lab disposal

[tall echo]

No

[brittle siren]

tell me 1 infested mob that not came from anything

[tall echo]

Infested can repurpose literally anything

[tall echo]

Every deimos infested

[brittle siren]

ok? that does not mean it does not need sth as a base

[tall echo]

Rock suffices as a base

[brittle siren]

what infested made from rock?

[tall echo]

You are aware that the infestation can restructure things on an almost atomic level right

[brittle siren]

again
1 single thing that made from a literal rock for me pls

[tall echo]

Visibly, none. Lore-wise, probably many on deimos and generally everywhere

[brittle siren]

mind you I was talking about LIVING infested, not some tendrils or all of infested flesh

[tall echo]

They're the same thing

[brittle siren]

but the wall never attack us don't they?

[tall echo]

It's too early for this

[brittle siren]

also your logic means that Atlas does not need human host to become warframe, since it can just make anything work

[lean garden]

thats not

do you think atlas is actually made of rock?

have you looked at atlas recently

[brittle siren]

no I'm being sarcastic

also small question: is the meteorite in Plague star come from Deimos?

[tall echo]

Eris

[hidden glade]

Eris, theres lore about a Cetus trading ship that got too close

[brittle siren]

oh ok

[hidden glade]

Konzu goes on to say
Infestation. My uncle, Hinmun, sold minerals aboard a market near Eris. Quite popular with deep-system traders. At least, it was. They were broadsided by one of these boils. It spread fast. They could have run; risked taking it with them. Instead, they turned off life support and blew out escape pods. Decades later, it still orbits Eris, writhing. One voice repeating the same message, over and over, 'We are death. Leave us, and do not look back.' My uncle's voice. Fail here, Tenno, and that will be the fate of Cetus. To be warning for the living. From a place where none may tread.

[drowsy saddle]

The idle anims are so similar to the legacytes which we know are the höllvania zoo gorilla

[obtuse vine]

Ive always wondered why killing a sentient refills our warframe's health and energy but I wonder if it has anything to do with how || Aidis gave us part of him || and maybe thts why we get replenished by sentients

[dark compass]

Huh? Is there anything special to killing sentient enemies?

[tall echo]

Picking up the "core" they drop

[dark compass]

Ah

Cast and cry, cast and cry, raise the energy bar high

[tall echo]

Cuss and cry, cuss and cry, raise the armor values high

[pale cedar]

It wouldn’t consider that light didn’t give us healing abilities otherwise we wouldn’t need to try and find another healing Sentient as we’d be able to use it to heal them as it would still be a Sentient ability

[obtuse vine]

hmmmm so I assume that gameplay mechanic is as of now just stirctly gameplay with no lore attatched to it?

[pale cedar]

Yes

[obtuse vine]

damn 😔

[unique talon]

How many diseases is Saryn capable of spreading?

[pale cedar]

At least 1

[north jolt]

Yes

[dark compass]

Even his meat apron?

[north jolt]

And bacon

Rock and bacon

[dark compass]

Infested bacon

Velimir's special

[north jolt]

Infested bacon vs cubed spaghetti

[dark compass]

The true powerscaling debate

[unique talon]

I know the infestation are meat but..

Could we actually eat them?

[north jolt]

Technically, maybe?

Depends how toxic the flesh is, which I would guess "very"

[silk atlas]

There's an old Ask A Cephalon about that, pretty sure the answer was "probably assuming you cooked it really well but it wouldn't be appetizing and you still risk being Infested"

[north jolt]

Sounds about right

[silk atlas]

Even worse, just "don't even bother."

[fast dew]

Kavats can :)

[silk atlas]

So turn into a Kavat, got it

[unique talon]

Nothing like lemon and Vinegar can't solve it

[pale cedar]

NikodemosTheMan Asks: Dear Cordylon, are Infested edible?

Due to the unique nature of Technocyte tissue there is a higher statistical probability that Infested flesh will begin to consume and assimilate organic life from within rather than be digested. This is because most organic beings do not contain the proper natural immunity to its infectious nature.

You are not the first being to question whether or not the Infested can be consumed, but documented history shows that us that Infestation is best eradicated rather than experimented with:

Case # 324: Grineer Captain Vek Th'ow succumbs to Infestation after trying to crush an unusually small Infested Charger with his boot.
Case #567: A Corpus research vessel is overwhelmed with Infestation after discovering an abandoned smuggler ship containing contaminated credits. Vigorous application of antibacterial soap did not seem to have any slowing effect.
Case #132: A New Loka survey expedition perishes after collecting what they believed to be 'excellent quality moss'. Their bodies were recovered, mostly consumed by Infestation. No trace of moss was evident.
Also See: Alad V.

[fast dew]

Furry time

[unique talon]

Even if we could

[fast dew]

I need to learn how to make a fursuit head so I can make kalymos

[unique talon]

What would they taste like?

[fast dew]

"Is it a fursuit if she has no fur-" YES IT IS, SHUT.

[pale cedar]

Infestation would taste rotten

You certainly wouldn’t enjoy it

[dark compass]

Ah yes, the scalie philosophical conflict

[fast dew]

SHE ISNT A REPTILE

[dark compass]

She is a rat

[fast dew]

IF SKIN DICTATES ITS NOT A FURSUIT THEN RAT TAILS WOULDNT BE PART OF IT

[dark compass]

(I love bald cats)

(I have one of my own)

[fast dew]

I love hairless cats, but also those cats that look like they should be hairless (Cornish rexes)

[fast dew]

Realistically id probably just use minky fabric dyed that weird colour she is

[fast dew]

Boy why are they so 🤨

[pale cedar]

They’re judging you

Also ew eye contact

Eye contact was a bad idea

[fast dew]

Yk this sounds like something id say word for word

[pale cedar]

Yk
I think I know why

[fast dew]

Ew. Don't do that.

Don't mimic me nemesis, im not a good person

[pale cedar]

Can’t mimic you
||But I certainly can hate eye contact just as much as you||

[fast dew]

So, why don't we pull and Albrecht and or Margulis and get our eyes blinded by something void related :D

[pale cedar]

Because then we can’t read stupid lore theories to mass murder them

[ocean geyser]

Tell that to Velmir bro

[dark compass]

I like eye contact

I will laser people's eyes out with it

[pale cedar]

Nuh uh

I’ll just not use eye contact with you so you can’t eye contact me

[dark compass]

I will surround the room with mirrors and unintentionally laser myself in the process

Like a moderately successful villain of the week would do

[empty terrace]

Man just finished the sacrifice quest and I cannot hate anyone more in my life than I hate ballas

[dark compass]

Welcome to the club lol

[pale cedar]

You ain’t seen nothing yet

[empty terrace]

Next quest has different UI and it is split in 3 parts. I guess I should play it later and all at once to understand it. I'm talking about prelude to war. War sounds interesting.

[fast dew]

True.....

[rain stag]

I think the tech rot in the normal timeline evolved into 2 viruses a virus that turns people into warframes and the infestation

[fast dew]

Xata.....

[fast dew]

That is what happened.

Its called a strain :)

[rain stag]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-14634295

[fast dew]

Really simplified, and theres more splits than 2, but yeah

The techrot is infestation

Infestation is the helminth strain, grey strain, mutalist strain, ect

It was also techrot

[empty terrace]

Also ballas is weird and confusing. So he liked magulis but then he ordered to get her killed while he(I assume he's orokin) was fighting sentients (hunhow and natah/lotus) then after magulis died he betrayed orokin and sold all ideas about Warframes to hunhow. Then natah came and took the mother role of tenno. Now ballas is back and wants natah/magulis again. Bro has serious commitment issues. 😐

Also I noticed he looks like the family from Deimos. So I guess the family is also orokin.

[fast dew]

Yeah. They're orokin

They're the best orokin we got

And mother is emotionally abusive and stabbed her husband

[lean garden]

something tells me you aint done the Old Peace yet

[fast dew]

So. That sets the standard

[dark compass]

You shall continue

[empty terrace]

That's the most normal people I'd think are in Warframe

[fast dew]

She... is surprisingly normal. Somehow.

Considering who her father is

Considering her upbringing

Considering literally everything in that woman's life

[empty terrace]

Nope. I'm playing Warframe for first time but story quests are soo nice that I wanna always come here and talk about it

I wanna go unlock more Warframes but I can't stop playing quests. 😔 I've only Excalibur and Umbra

[silk atlas]

There are quests about Warframes though

[empty terrace]

I know. But I wanna focus on the main quests for now. The only one I played is the deadlock protocol. I've heard the main story arc is different after Warframe 1999 starts. So I'll play the new war then focus on Warframe quests

[pale cedar]

Side quests are fun

[empty terrace]

I know it's serious but when I saw lotus like that with all other mimic sentients I thought she looked like Pokemon rotom.(I was playing Pokemon in the evening)

[strange turtle]

It can be according to the KIMs with Velimir and the Techrot BBQ, but it should be kept in mind that these are Protos eating so there’s still the issue of if they’d remain infectious for others (likely yes, unless you had a really hot heat source)

[unique talon]

Just fry them

[strange turtle]

Though considering the inorganic materials included, proper preparation and getting it from the right area of the Infestation thing would be a major issue too

[pale cedar]

There’s only 2 groups of people who can realistically eat anything Infestation related

Void related individuals
Warframes

[dark compass]

You put infestation on a grill and the grill is now trying to eat you

[peak ether]

And throwing hot coals at you

[dark compass]

While trying to eat you

[pale cedar]

Trying?
You mean doing right?

[dark compass]

If you let it, sure

[pale cedar]

Still not as bad as what the Queen does

She actually does eat her own troops

[dark compass]

I'm pretty sure Grineer are used to cannibalism

They're all protein slurry at the end of the day

[fast dew]

I could go for a meat pie rn

[peak ether]

If you had the chance would y’all try Unum meat?

[pale cedar]

Yes

[fast dew]

Nah

It looks like vessel meat. And thats infestation

[peak ether]

It seems like it would be extremely chewy

[pale cedar]

Looks can be deceiving

[dark compass]

In 2035 DE decides to update every face model in the game, and when it reaches Cetus everyone will look the same except in higher definition

Because that's what wall meat does to you

You'll look like Konzu

[peak ether]

Cetus peeps deserve some face rework because they look like frogs / sid

[dark compass]

I will continue to believe that Cetus people just look like that

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/small-cat-cat-dance-sleepy-kitten-pathetic-cat-kitten-hold-gif-2871114101866651462

[pale cedar]

That’s the idea

[dark compass]

Cetus Overmind update, trust

Pre eidolon revenant, unum tower tileset

[peak ether]

Erra was reassuring himself in TNW when he said don’t be afraid to the kid not reassuring the kid trust

[pale cedar]

I’m surprised Unum hasn’t fixed the tower yet after all this time

Slacking on the job

[dark compass]

Someone keeps eating the unum glue

[pale cedar]

Konzu probably

[dark compass]

The so called early lunch

[loud oriole]

-# it was me, sorry

-# it tastes like strawberries

[dry oracle]

I wanna know why quincy keeps saying "what we did last night that make them jealous" something like that

[fast dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952946035733438575/1461285583681753251/explode-1768467993232.gif

[fast dew]

.. do you have him romanced?

[dry oracle]

Of course

[fast dew]

That. Sounds like a romanced line

... yall screwed.

Thats what yall did

Yall did the do 💔

[dry oracle]

But I wanna know what happened

Wat

[loud oriole]

hand holding

[fast dew]

Its pretty obvious what happened 😭

[dry oracle]

I don't know what happened last night

[fast dew]

How old are you to not realise 😭

[dry oracle]

I don't pay attention

[fast dew]

How do I say this

[dry oracle]

I'm just that oblivious

[fast dew]

Yall are in a relationship

What do you do. When in a relationship. In bed.

[loud oriole]

-# you and Quincy boned

[fast dew]

Thank you i was tryna say it in a more delicate way but that works

[normal mountain]

You sleep
Obviously

[dry oracle]

Oh you mean six but with e

[fast dew]

Yes dear lord

Loid save me from this hell

[loud oriole]

yes, fornication ensued last night within the Doom x Quincy backrooms

[fast dew]

Baby making maybe

Yall probably did it on the same spot Albrecht slept on

Ew. Why did I think of that

[dry oracle]

So I found the concept art of lyon is it canon?

[fast dew]

Concept art is just that, Concept art

[dark compass]

It's Liger so of course it's canon

[fast dew]

Liger the beloved

[dry oracle]

Well... I may have scrolled down a bit...

[fast dew]

Also do we. Know what pronouns liger prefers? Bcs they use... we a lot

Are they like. A group?

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/father-lyon-warframe-dancing-gif-17520200093550940575

[fast dew]

Don't hurt em now Lyon

[loud oriole]

everyone is liger

[fast dew]

I hope so

[dry oracle]

you are liger

[fast dew]

I love their art, id kill to be as good as them

They also designed Loid and Arthur

[loud oriole]

Lyon after 1 mL of the "wine" he drunk before hopping on KIMchat

[fast dew]

He might deadass have a really low tolerance

[dry oracle]

Lyon is least picked?

[fast dew]

Wine doesn't have much alcohol due to its creation

[dry oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/hans-hans-niemann-chess-player-i-saw-what-you-just-edited-message-edited-gif-11563090857067166912

[loud oriole]

Lyon cannot throw back shots like Quincy, Velimir, and Arthur, unfortunate

[fast dew]

Yeah you got the weirdos who fetishise Marie, and the people who think they can fix Roathe

No hate to either, not all of them are like that either

[dry oracle]

So lyon is sane person are the group

[fast dew]

Shhh i use speech to text i over spoke shh

[dry oracle]

Oh true

[fast dew]

The sane choice, which is funny considering how Lyon is

[dry oracle]

I mean he hears voices in his head

[fast dew]

I saw a person get genuinely upset over Marie being an amputee

... for some reason

[dry oracle]

We know why...

[loud oriole]

[fast dew]

The hell did they expect??

[normal mountain]

Wisp feet

[fast dew]

Like im 99% sure it wasn't even the lack of feet

I got the weird sense it was like. "Oh she was disabled"

[normal mountain]

I'm pretty sure it was the lack of feet
There was a crowd who was quite excited at the prospect of Wisp Feet

[fast dew]

Either foot shit or abelism. Pick your poison ig :/

[loud oriole]

if Marie was able to wear shoes the date cutscene would not have been as whimsical

[fast dew]

SHE HAS PROSTHETICS

[loud oriole]

i know this

[fast dew]

No sorry I

[dry oracle]

Fused prosthetic?

[fast dew]

Didnt mean that at you

[loud oriole]

all good lol

[fast dew]

Kinda? Iirc it has that circuit shit on the back

[dry oracle]

They kinda look the same as wisp prime prosthetics

[fast dew]

Caps lock and me being excited 💔 mb brotato

[loud oriole]

that's the magic of the technocyte virus, anything non-biological becomes biological to the user

[dry oracle]

First of all why we talking about wisp feet

[fast dew]

Her design is fun

[normal mountain]

I believe it was because the subject of fetishes was brought up

[fast dew]

I mentioned the one person who was so weirdly upset about it

I still dont think it was that

Its wisp, what else did they expect?

[dark compass]

...feet?

[fast dew]

I think it was mainly that she was a double amputee

[loud oriole]

because Reb-ideo Ford-jima

[fast dew]

Why do people assume they'd add something thats not there 😭

Im genuinely so confused

I don't get it

[dry oracle]

The history repeats itself

[normal mountain]

Desire
It often causes irrational thinking

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-huh-cat-kitten-kitty-gif-5273247718297236208

[dry oracle]

They got proto wisp skin what more do they want

[fast dew]

God I dont understand people

[dry oracle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1303743230247960682/1304599050443821056/attachment.gif

[fast dew]

Im slowly realising i deadass might just be fully ace

Because how do people do that

[dry oracle]

Do what

[fast dew]

Assume theyd add that shit 😭

[loud oriole]

the only pass i will allow DE to modify the protoframe design is if/when we get a Dagath proto, since uhhh
-# yeah

[dark compass]

No

It would be funnier if they stick to it

[fast dew]

Like. Hey I get mildly delusional over Loid and shit around him and last time I was, I was correct

I was predicting the loid Kim profile before update even dropped

[dark compass]

I think we just shouldn't kinkshame

[dry oracle]

If only they could make the eyebrows colours changes with the hair

[fast dew]

It's not even that, I get paid to draw weird shit, but allowing it to get in the way of rational thought is concerning

[dry oracle]

What kind weird

[dark compass]

Ok fair

Back to discussing important things like uhhhhhh

[fast dew]

I was out here guessing this shit

[dry oracle]

Like weird funny or disturbingly weird?

[fast dew]

I was in the trenches

Tryna explain myself like matpat man

[strange turtle]

Intensive procreative activity

[strange plinth]

matpat made less sense most of the time

[fast dew]

Like

[strange turtle]

I assume they’re one of those plural/system folks

[dry oracle]

Wait the account we using in Kim chat is Albrecht account?

[pale cedar]

No

[fast dew]

True, but tbf, I had my suspicion from... eye of entrati, a lack of a name and common sense 😭

[strange turtle]

No, they’re talking about Loid

[fast dew]

I mean technically? It was probably set up by Albrecht, but loid uses it

OH. WRONG ONE

[strange turtle]

Loid is using the account

We have our own

[fast dew]

No the one Loid uses with the triad

[dry oracle]

I mean the account you use to chat with hex and triad

[fast dew]

Nah not that

I was meaning the one Loid uses

[strange turtle]

Yeah, they’re not talking about us

[pale cedar]

We’re just using our own account on his PC

[fast dew]

Default settings n stuff

[dry oracle]

Oh

[fast dew]

Being polite and signing out, thank you Albrecht

[fast dew]

Hey, I don't wanna see his search history

Probably full of him looking up cats

[dark compass]

In the last stand Entrati will be a specter npc like Loid, and his lex will be an incarnon

[fast dew]

Trying to get Kalymos some cat toys

[peak ether]

best bet he searched up coats

[fast dew]

Nah he made that mf

[peak ether]

i still need that coat

[fast dew]

Or stole the coat. Both works.

[peak ether]

i need de to drop it

[strange plinth]

that man owns timeless style, the clothing store the backroom is in

[pale cedar]

Dw bringing it to the internet anyway

I wanted nothing but the ease of oblivion, at first. I floated ignorant in baths of nepenthe, a second gestation. Unseeing, unspeaking. Only rarely did my brain flicker errant light across the cave-paintings still smeared on the interior of my skull.

At sensation's edge, I knew a vague silhouette of Loid crooning motherly across the watery distances, the poetry my tongue was too blackened to recite.

Too craven to chase death, I awaited it. The father of fears, and yet I was still afraid.

The currents whispered, 'Coward'. I clenched my body into a fist as a foetus must and blinded myself afresh.

Stark pain smoked the juice of my living tomb. Why did the saga not end by itself? Why must I still act?

Steeped in solitude, I found I could no longer endure my own company.

Disgust did the work of courage. I tore the mundane membrane, slid weak and mucosal into Loid's embrace.

Loid nursed me then, tending first to the uprooted ruin of my eyes, then to the mouth whose grin no longer hid behind flesh.

The agony bit deep, but it was clean. Blameless love bled up from me.

I had decided to live.

I felt no certainty as I donned clothes rough and strange to the touch of newgrown skin. I had none of the selfless zeal of the soldier.

The same cursed question still pursued me as it had before: was I, even now, trapped in the rictus of the Wall?

The apparatus of logic would never yield an answer. Only resolute action remained. If I must be a demon, let me be an honest one. Let me prove my nature by what I do next.

Purpose. Let me leave such blazing footprints behind me as no unclean thing would dare to walk in.

[fast dew]

I believe in "the Albrecht is a kleptomaniac" idea forever

[strange plinth]

woa

[dry oracle]

And no wonder why quincy likes to fashion my drifter

[fast dew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-goofy-cat-silly-cat-sleepy-cat-bruh-cat-gif-8253677982411156146

Hes looking up if the name Loid means anything

[strange turtle]

Discovering why you need to make sure to always have “cat” at the end of a certain word

[fast dew]

HAHAHAH

Yeah thats funny as shit

Albrecht learning why safe search is important

I need kalymos to have like

[dry oracle]

Kalymnos in backroom is original or clone?

[fast dew]

A cat tree

But its too small

[strange turtle]

“Kaya was right, this “interweb” truly is dangerous”

[fast dew]

Original, Albrecht left her with us

[dry oracle]

So we own it now

[fast dew]

He goes blind again from the trauma 💔

[strange turtle]

No

[dry oracle]

Damn

[strange turtle]

We’re just taking care of her for a bit

[fast dew]

Probably not. She's still Albrecht's

[strange plinth]

Kalymos does what she wants to, it seems
and for now, that's sticking around the backroom

[fast dew]

Oh yeah, if she wanted to leave she would

[pale cedar]

The cat is a spy trust

[dry oracle]

If only kalymnos could roam around instead of giving me red zone while decorating

[fast dew]

Go get her kavat skin

[pale cedar]

Albrecht left Kalymos with us for a reason

[fast dew]

To keep her safe

[pale cedar]

Nah

[dry oracle]

The npc kalymos

[fast dew]

Its what seems to be likely for him

He wouldn't even use her for the cavia experiments

I doubt he'd bring her along to his possible death

[pale cedar]

Still could’ve cloned her

[dark compass]

I will agree to that only if they let her wear a traffic cone on her head as a skin

[pale cedar]

Damn you Loid for not digging deeper to get the answer to the clone question

[dry oracle]

You can put traffic cone

[peak ether]

speaking of, he could've cloned Tagfer and altered his DNA to make a female mate for him but i doubt he would mate with her in the first place

[strange plinth]

the most recent oro mention being this will never not be funny to me

[fast dew]

Alternatively just cloned Minn 😭

[peak ether]

less work more viable true

[dry oracle]

I mean who's going to date their self

[fast dew]

"No need to worry about that shit. Tho. If it was real, my cat would have it."

[peak ether]

you wouldnt date the opposite gender of yourself?

[strange turtle]

I don’t think even the Orokin can alter their DNA enough for that to be viable, at least not without a wider genepool to mix from

[pale cedar]

Let’s clone Albrecht and make him blue and fat

[strange turtle]

Otherwise they wouldn’t be endangered in the first place

[fast dew]

NO DONT DO THAT LET HIM JUST BE BLUE AND BUILT LIKE A SUBURBAN DAD

[dry oracle]

Why not pink

[fast dew]

NO CLONING PLEASE GOD ITS BORING

[strange turtle]

No I’d hit them with a rock and steal their skin and hair

[peak ether]

found the orokin get them!

[strange turtle]

Woah woah woah

[pale cedar]

Let’s clone Thomas so we can get a Thomas that agrees with cloning

[dry oracle]

Maybe clone nihil with normal skin

[strange turtle]

I am no Orokin

[fast dew]

Bcs he was blue

[fast dew]

Do it. We would murder each other.

[pale cedar]

And fat

[strange turtle]

I’d still leave them with their bones, muscles, blood vessels, nervous system…

[fast dew]

Peak male body

[strange turtle]

Chair throwing gladiator match

[fast dew]

Exactly!!!

[strange turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-versus-kratos-gif-10052060108092502918

[dry oracle]

But we wouldn't know which one is the real Thomas

[fast dew]

Wonderful

[strange turtle]

Whichever one wins

[fast dew]

Which ever one is strongest

[pale cedar]

I wonder what a clone of me would be like

[fast dew]

Your nemesis, thats what

[dry oracle]

Handsome

[dark compass]

A clone of me would violently explode

[dry oracle]

Double nukes

[dark compass]

(there's no reason for the clone, but I will ensure it)

[fast dew]

Do we think loid knows how to cook or did the entrati family have a specific set of servants for that

[dark compass]

Albrecht only consumes nestawood and primed instant noodles

[fast dew]

Yeah

If he even eats methinks

[dry oracle]

He's Alfred the butler

[strange turtle]

A second book

[fast dew]

He wasn't even trained to be a butler

[waxen mesa]

replaying the quests...wheres the rest of our ship anyway?

[fast dew]

He was trained to be an Archimedian assistant

[normal mountain]

A reprint

[waxen mesa]

did we leave it in orbit?

[dry oracle]

Up there

[strange turtle]

That I would steal and bind with a leather belt and put on my bookshelf

Like the monster books from that one wizard thing

[fast dew]

What Archimedian assistant does the shit loid does

[dark compass]

Drifting in space

[normal mountain]

Probably

[pale cedar]

“On the day, my laboratory was mostly vacant of witnesses; most of all, of expectation. Only my sluggish attendants, my sagacious kavat Kalymos, and, of course, my daughter.”

[strange turtle]

Under

[fast dew]

Mm. He sent Loid away.

I wonder why

[pale cedar]

He knew I’d call him ugly

[dry oracle]

Loid and Albrecht are gae couple or it just fan made ship

[fast dew]

Nemesis is on their mean arc

[strange turtle]

Gay

[fast dew]

Canonically gay

They should kiss on camera

[pale cedar]

It never ended to suddenly be on

[dry oracle]

Rogue DE animator probably did that

[fast dew]

I genuinely can't wait for pride month this year just to see the rando tourist chuds cry and piss themselves when DE does the pride event ingame

[pale cedar]

Rebb was gonna have Loid and Albrecht kiss

[fast dew]

Rebecca wants it done

So.

Thats hope. Hopium

[dry oracle]

I never expected to see lotus and Roathe romance cutsence

[fast dew]

"Game is woke"

And they're ignoring Ticker, Hunhow, Loid and Albrecht, the drifter, Eleanor and i think Quincy, (most of the hex and the triad dont count as they're playersexual, not any actual sexuality),

[waxen mesa]

Drifter refers to Loid as Albrecht's lover

so it is hard confirmed

[strange turtle]

Adis and Op

[strange plinth]

they didn't even play the game !! they're just mad about a pride month announcement

[fast dew]

Yeah yeah them too!

[waxen mesa]

if you ever need a good laugh look at the woke game reviews list

[dry oracle]

We went from fighting the sentients and grineer to dating a warframe 💀

[fast dew]

I think its so cute that we lowkey just ask adis out to like. The equivalent to a formal

[strange plinth]

oh its incredible, yeah

[fast dew]

Is doom on there if so lemme tell you - doom is woke

[lilac aspen]

Yeah
They just heard pride month decorations and went “WOOOKE!”
if they played the game they’d probably explode

[pale cedar]

It’s not actually a serious website

[fast dew]

One of the original creators of Doom, John Romero, donates to trans charities

[fast dew]

Hes so based

[dark compass]

Is Doomsday Paradise a part of Doom canon

[waxen mesa]

the website is a list of a serious game reviewer

its just the website is making fun of them

[lilac aspen]

Remember
Do not call them demons
Call them mortally challenged

Is an actual quote in game and makes me cackle

[fast dew]

2016 - evil corporations
64 - evil corporations
Doom 3 - corruption of the military by evil corporations
Doom 1 and 2 - caused because doomguy wouldn't pull a certain state of water on innocent monks

[pale cedar]

Doom was doomed after 1999

[fast dew]

Are they dumb

TDA has the slayer as an immigrant

[dry oracle]

True

[waxen mesa]

Helldivers 2 is slightly woke because the characters are too ambiguous

[fast dew]

... are they genuinely brain-dead

Like. Deadass are they unable to read

[pale cedar]

Here’s a question
Does Doom actually have fish?

[fast dew]

Are they unable to comprehend irony

[waxen mesa]

what do you mean? helldivers 2 is a wholesome USA great military great story about how cool the usa is 😎

[fast dew]

IT HAS A SHARK. THE DOOM SHARK

IT HAS A SHARK AND SHARKS ARE FISH

[strange turtle]

It has Australia, and australia has fish

[dry oracle]

Go on

[dark compass]

The SharkSlayer

[waxen mesa]

anyway after rewatching the intro. I never noticed how the intro cinematic shows The Collapse

[tall echo]

._.

[waxen mesa]

hey i played the dang intro years ago

[fast dew]

DOOM ETERNAL'S FIRST DLC, THE ANCIENT GODS PART ONE, IN THE FIRST LEVEL HAS YOU GO JNTO WATER TO ENTER THE SERAPHIM'S CHAMBER AND YOU CAN GET BIT BY A SHARK

Sorry

Autism

[dark compass]

Doom eternal has like 5 million dopefish

Does that count

[fast dew]

Oh yeah dopefish

Tbf thats...

[strange turtle]

Dopefish?

[fast dew]

Oh my god.

Dope fish would exist in 1999.

[dark compass]

Dopefish

[waxen mesa]

the intro also features ammo recovery, wall running, and a great deal more verticality then any tileset has

[pale cedar]

There we go we found Doomfishes species

[dry oracle]

What

[fast dew]

Commander keen would exist in 1999 😭

[strange turtle]

Dopefish

[fast dew]

Wolfenstein would too

[empty terrace]

If I select Excalibur as a starter which I did. Then I met Umbra who looks like Excalibur Warframe too so which one had real Excalibur operator or Umbra ?? Or is it just the same design?

[strange turtle]

Both are real

[fast dew]

Stupid ass fish

[dark compass]

Dope ass fish

[fast dew]

In eternal it gives you extra lives

[strange turtle]

Excalibur Umbra is a modified version by Ballas to make the Dax Umbra was into

[dry oracle]

Different version of excalibur

[pale cedar]

Multiple models of a frame can be made

[dry oracle]

I think excalibur prime was operator first warframe then default excalibur and now it's umbra

[strange turtle]

None would’ve got a Prime at first

[pale cedar]

We’re never told which came first between Excal and Excal Prime

[strange turtle]

It was a privilege

[empty terrace]

Does that mean there are many Warframes who could have their own mind? I mean I know how ballas made Umbra so he could've made more frames too from dax soldiers.

[fast dew]

Its always funny to me that it seems that folk always assume that the prime trailers are talking about the prime frames

[dry oracle]

Do you think lore accurate atlas can beat Roathe in decendia

[pale cedar]

Ew power scaling

[dry oracle]

Or protoframe are weaker version of the original warframes

[silk atlas]

All the Warframes did were go insane, not braindead, when they were transformed.

[olive hull]

I don’t know, does Roathe scale the same way as a Meteor does?

[strange turtle]

Originally all frames were concious converts

[olive hull]

Technically yes but they go crazy from it.

[pale cedar]

Atlas didn’t even one shot a meteor

[strange turtle]

But eventually they almost all went crazy or rebelled and got purged

[olive hull]

Still Pulverized it

[strange turtle]

So now we have our new ones that barely have anything of the OG’s mind left

[pale cedar]

Which required breaking it down first

[dry oracle]

Protoframes count as umbras?

[strange turtle]

No, that’s how they tried (and failed) to control them

We don’t know what they did it make gen 2s the way they are

[strange plinth]

there's only one umbra

[strange turtle]

It could have been or involved doing that, but that’s not stated

[olive hull]

And he still did it to a Meteor regardless.

[pale cedar]

I was talking about Atlas which many think one punch maned a meteor

[strange plinth]

there's a lot more than just a punch going on there

[strange turtle]

…ah

Nevermind then

[strange turtle]

Umbra is the special design that Excal Umbra got, not a general term for conscious frames

There were more Umbras planned but DE didn’t end up going through with it anyway

And Protos wouldn’t count even if thats what the term was, since it’s achieved through different methods

[pale cedar]

All frames are sentient anyway so even Umbra isn’t completely special

[empty terrace]

But does Excalibur prime exist though? I don't see him in codex. I didn't see Umbra in codex before the sacrifice either

[dry oracle]

He does

If you own one

[pale cedar]

Umbra is hidden mastery like quest weapons

[olive hull]

Atlas the GOAT

[pale cedar]

Many items are hidden till you own them

[empty terrace]

??

[normal mountain]

Excalibur Prime doesn't show up in the codex unless you own him

[dark compass]

the secret is that one of the rumblers was banshee and she stacked sonar for him

[empty terrace]

Interesting. I hope he's still available to get somehow in game though. I'm enjoying Excalibur Umbra design lot

[dark compass]

everyone keeps calling him the goat but he just punched 50 stacks of sonar on a meteor

[dry oracle]

Who's gonna tell him

[dark compass]

Prime isnt

sorry, never

[fleet furnace]

excalibur prime was a founders exclusive, so no you cant get him anymore

[normal mountain]

Prime is Founder exclusive

[dark compass]

Prime was a founder pack reward for when the game was in dev

if you see someone with it theyve been here since the game was in development

[normal mountain]

That program has been discontinued for a long while

[pale cedar]

Prime exists ||for founders||

[dry oracle]

Or stolen accounts

[empty terrace]

Damn. Does that mean soulframe would have something like that too?

[dark compass]

even when the game came out in china they didnt let them buy a prime founder's pack, they gave them excalibur umbra prime as an alternative

[pale cedar]

Literally against TOS

[dry oracle]

Not really

[normal mountain]

Which is illegal, and would likely be caught

[strange plinth]

soulframe does currently have a founder program with some exclusive rewards i believe?

[normal mountain]

Similar, but not
There's this cool sword, but there are other ways of obtaining it

[dark compass]

soulframe founders only gives you a small display in-game and sword skin codes for warframe

[fleet furnace]

yes and no, more on the no side, you can get a special weapon and its version of primes for the 3 starters but theyre not exactly founders exclusive

[dark compass]

all the gear is available in-game, you just get it early

[strange turtle]

Excal Prime exists, you get to play him for a bit in a later quest, he’s just exclusive to Founders because DE were in that era were exclusive content was all the rage and they wanted to give them something special

[dry oracle]

So it's just pay to skip

[dark compass]

ehh its pay to help to support the devs

you still get a title and something like that for it

the rest is just a bonus

[fleet furnace]

there is a weapon in soulframe that is founders exlclusive, but said founders can make a tradeable bp to give to anyone, which will allow them to make it too, just with the caveat that it has the founders name attached

[dark compass]

sonds nice

[strange turtle]

The main purpose of ones like these is to pay to help support the developer, the project itself, and also just to show shareholders and parent companies that the project is wanted by paying customers

[dry oracle]

Why not warframe pays the child support instead (soulframe is warframe child)

[dark compass]

because Steve is in exile

and wants to make it on his own

[pale cedar]

Soulframe isn’t even in the Warframe universe

[dark compass]

[pale cedar]

Can’t pay child support from a different universe

[dry oracle]

That's not what I meant but okay

[olive hull]

I don’t know man, Indifference has basically been giving us powers from outside the known reality. So child support not impossible.

[strange turtle]

I’m no business person, but I imagine a good bit of warframes profit goes to Tencent. Then a good bit goes into maintaining and developing warframe itself. Then a good bit goes into the DE staff, their workspace and maintaining it. Then additional funds for emergencies and bonuses. Then you’ve got the money you can give to Soulframe

[pale cedar]

Indifference still doesn’t pay rent let alone helping with child support

[olive hull]

Void powers is the child support

[dry oracle]

Completely forgot about tencent

[dark compass]

on a serious note, this is because soulframe is a whole separate team and they want to make it so it wont leech off warframe's quality and budget

different people working on it, that largely arent a part of the current warframe crew

[pale cedar]

They used Duviri trees in the beginning

[dark compass]

re-used

its called strategic planning

and resourcefulness

[pale cedar]

It’s called needing trees

[dark compass]

we dont need trees

i want mushrooms

big mushrooms

[pale cedar]

Time to cut all the trees and see what happens

[loud oriole]

a necramech that is just a mushroom

[dark compass]

when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail

[dry oracle]

Drifter starter path is still a thing or cancelled?

[pale cedar]

Hasn’t been a thing for years

[dark compass]

a lot of things that were done with Steve were just dumped dead in the water

alongside modular archwing

[dry oracle]

The mode where you start as drifter or warframe

[dark compass]

i hope new railjack content this year will be bridging the gap somehow

[dry oracle]

Open world ocean when

[bright temple]

framenautica

[fleet furnace]

open world sharkwing, hmmm. what i want to see is magma worlds

[loud oriole]

finally be able to sleep in the cold below

[restive river]

Maybe with Tau
Iirc it did maybe look like one had water tho

[loud oriole]

could be possible to see very different biomes within the tau system since the sentients nor orokin got a chance to properly start terraforming

-# thanks ball arse

[restive river]

Actually wait
In theory we should have an idea of the environments in Tau, pre terraforming at least

Parallax skins!

[fleet furnace]

aye

[dry oracle]

Ah yes I remember witnessing gargantuan Leviathan

What if we had something like that in warframe

[loud oriole]

ghost leviathan my beloved

[restive river]

I can’t login to check their descriptions but those skins should give us an idea of Tau before terraforming
Thing is we will be going post-terraforming

[dry oracle]

Those damn reaper leviathan

[loud oriole]

-# what are these gifs for 'ghost leviathan'

[empty terrace]

Starting the new war now. Hope it's peak. And hope I get to kick ballas' ass

[dry oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-leviathan-gif-18151470

[strange plinth]

it will be, and not spoiling

[empty terrace]

I was gonna say balls first but I saw prelude ballas and he has none left

[strange plinth]

ball ass also works

[peak ether]

I thought DE was taking a step away from Openworld stuff and going for bigger open world like tile sets

[restive river]

They are
I was commenting on the magmaworld bit :p

[peak ether]

Ahhh mb

[strange turtle]

We’re going to get normal tilesets, open world, and open-world tilesets with Tau, trust 🙏

[dry oracle]

Tau system star chart when

[loud oriole]

-# source: my dog works at DE

[restive river]

Railjack open world with tileset missions as ships spread throughout

[restive river]

This year

[dark compass]

wouldve been cool for saturn

[dark compass]

this year we are getting the update, but not before an echoes update for old peace

i wonder what though

it could be a lot

[peak ether]

Lowkey expecting Hard mode 3.0 if they add a whole new star chart but that would lock newer players out for a while so I doubt it

[dark compass]

idk they added a "star chart" for 1999 and they can do it the same way here

[dry oracle]

Baby mode path for newer players

[dark compass]

dont need to have 5 million planet nodes

[silk atlas]

So Star Chart

[strange plinth]

yea that's just the regular star chart

[peak ether]

Isn’t 1999 more a planet node than an actual star chart?

[silk atlas]

Realistically Tau is likely just going to be the dossier with "nodes" on it being the missions you do.

[peak ether]

By star chart I mean multiple planets

[dry oracle]

No the enemies pretend to die and give you loot

[peak ether]

Really hope not especially with how long it’s been built up

[dry oracle]

What if it gets delayed

[silk atlas]

Basically, and I don't think it's gonna be unexpected to think that Tau proper isn't just going to be a "planet" in scale anyway. They could just drop new nodes in it if they really wanted to make it more like that.

[peak ether]

I’d rather it get delayed than rushed

[fleet furnace]

tau needs to be a proper star chart, dont need to have all the planets available day 1, but it needs a proper chart

[silk atlas]

I'm not holding my breath at all

[strange plinth]

^ i don't mind if its just one planet at first and it gets expanded later, but i do want a proper star chart instead of a hub surrounded by nodes

[peak ether]

Ik Aliens aren’t really part of wf but it would be cool to have aliens on a completely different star chart

[dry oracle]

They should focus on making events like creating new modes or warframe skins instead of same stuff

[fleet furnace]

im sure new modes will be part of it, but there comes a time when youve kidna done everything in that regard

[peak ether]

They probably won’t be added in considering Valdur said the only Alien life they found are the xenoflora

[silk atlas]

Aliens is prime "DE is running out of ideas" time

[dark compass]

Idk what you can fill a tau star chart with

[strange turtle]

On the one hand I think the tendency to fill new things with generic old content instead of making more original stuff is lame as hell

On the other I don’t see any other way for Tau to get an expanding Star Chart without other factions crossing over to Tau and setting up in new places to maintain relevancy so that Sentients don’t take the spotlight for too long

[silk atlas]

If we get a Star Chart exactly like how the old planets were with just a giant slab of missions I've played before I'll take the dossier over it 100% of the time.

[fleet furnace]

could have the tau sentients be split into multiple factions, or maybe somehow bring prime grineer or orokin into it?

[peak ether]

They could make “reskins” like in 1999 the Scaldra are basically grineer

[restive river]

Ok so Tau being a proper starchart

I think it will happen but not this year, not all at once
We know the Tau Arc is apparently the biggest one yet, so how can they do that? By giving us each planet one at a time when they’re ready, coinciding with quests and events in the arc

[silk atlas]

The fact they made the dossier at all is what's dashing my expectations of a "Star Chart" Star Chart

They could just as easily slap extra nodes into the dossier as they expand on it.

[restive river]

Again, if it’s an entire star chart it won’t be all at once
They need a reasonable amount of time to make each planet

[dry oracle]

deluxe skins are part of the lore or some of them?

[silk atlas]

My point still stands

[restive river]

Only some, not all

If they appear in a leverian they’re canon
Or if they have something outright saying it like Yareli’s

[dry oracle]

So some of them were built like that

I mean different appearance

[silk atlas]

Most skins are just someone being instructed by Ballas to make it look different/cooler

[strange plinth]

case by case, mostly dependant on if they're referenced elsewhere
pandea and gersemi are full canon, for example, as reaper's lament mentions pandea and gersemi is just Valkyr With Skin

[silk atlas]

Tennogen can just be ignored as non-canon

I will say I think the community of WF has far, FAR hyped themselves up way more than DE has when it comes to the possibility of Tau. There were people all the way back in TSD thinking the next part would be Tau

[strange turtle]

We’re gonna get Tau after Tau trust

[silk atlas]

Honestly what it feels like now

[restive river]

I mean the arc will continue so yeah kinda lol

[strange plinth]

Tau^2

[dark compass]

I thought they're planning it to be the void war culmination

[restive river]

They said its the longest arc so
There will be more Tau lol

[restive river]

We don’t know when the void war will end afaik

Just that the tau arc has started as of old peace

[dark compass]

Oh right it's a "saga"

[restive river]

Yeah they
Can’t decide what to call them lol

Tau is after void war but has started during and in it

[dark compass]

I don't think they are concerned with this in any shape or form as much as we are currently discussing it

Whatever drives the plot forward

[dry oracle]

Gaint vessel summon when

[woven coyote]

I mean they probably started with the rigging for it in the old peace

So we are closer and closer

[peak ether]

Never noticed the female vessel having a crown, why does she get drip but male doesn’t Albrecht?!?

[dark compass]

He understands masculine beauty and aesthetics more

[peak ether]

He saw Arthur’s jawline and was like nah I don’t want anything distracting from that

[strange turtle]

the crown was actually something Euleria wore and he made it as a tribute, trust

[dry oracle]

Female vessel is more like handsome than my drifter

[waxen mesa]

wheres the female one from?

all i know is the loid/ablrecht ones and a few unfinished ones dotting the labs

[peak ether]

Just around the tilesets

look closely some have female model

[tepid cairn]

I have bad adhd. Did I miss something between 1999 and Old Peace? Why was I suddenly getting baptised by loyd and the Lotus?

[peak ether]

No 1999 and Old Peace are happening along side each other story wise

In lotus eaters she sends drifter to 1999 and operator in the bath

[strange plinth]

no, didn't miss anything. the dark refractory doesn't get much of an introduction, for some reason

[peak ether]

Yeah it’s kinda jarring not even needing to head down to the sanctum in the first place

[tepid cairn]

Ah ok. Thanks. Makes more sense.

[empty terrace]

Holly smoke this is absolute cinema. I played both factions then as teshin and now operator is dead and ballas is new ruler. Damn I never thought this game had this big of a time jump.

[normal mountain]

Time jump probably isn't as big as it's made out to be
But it is a surprise, yes

[dry oracle]

Operator saw the drifter memory and begs lotus and loid for baptism

[quick wadi]

Takeover took a solid 5 hours. They caved reaaaallll fast

[sly ferry]

Am I the only one who expected the double dating consent chats to be a bit more personalized instead of a generic template?

I was looking forward to Eleanor's reaction to us dating a nun specifically

Was kinda disappointed when she started vagueposting

There's also the lettie>lyon angle that would be interesting

[eager briar]

Me personally, if I suddenly existed and decided to reach my hand out to the first person I saw, and they proceeded to cut off one of my fingers and use it to allow anyone to essentially go through me, yeah, I probably try and get back at him too

[sly ferry]

Arthur and quincy would probably have some interesting stuff to say about mr "ex-general leading men into a meatgrinder"

[brittle siren]

I wonder if Yonta knew Margulis, or if the latter became Archimedean after Yonta's death?

[tall echo]

Expecting too much of a short-notice band-aid fix

[normal mountain]

Imo, the fact it's a "band-aid" at all (despite my disgust with the expression)
Is a lot concerning

Then again, the day they announce the Wisp proto as "undatable" would have been the happiest in my life

[tall echo]

Same

[normal mountain]

Second to the day they announced Minerva as the Saryn proto, and undatable

[tall echo]

I'll never stop quoting the ridiculous PR mistake "It's not cheating if it's time travel"

Even as a joke that's a stupid thing to say

[normal mountain]

...yeesh

Only way that could possibly work is if it's time travel with your same partner at a different age
like the gag at the end of the second Austin Powers

[tall echo]

I firmly believe they only started working on the poorly implemented post-cheating consent convos after the totally unexpected backlash

[normal mountain]

Sounds like it, tbh

[tall echo]

Checks out considering the KIM writer's previous work too

Rebb, why.

[normal mountain]

Yes, why
Why did you cave to making Wisp proto datable

no, I will not stop being depressed over this

Well, at least Marie is a decently written character

[tall echo]

The most "popular" frame being a nun of all things annoys and mildly disgusts me

At least she has an actual trap to trick the specific players she attracts into exposing themselves

[normal mountain]

Meh
I'll just consider it a different type of nun

Dualist monastic orders don't seem to have the same restrictions as Christian orders, that's for sure

[tall echo]

I liked marie bc I've got a weakness for french accents but she's so insufferable that I went with lyon

[normal mountain]

I like her because she's not doing the "I hate Entrati" bit that's been feeling repetitive for quite s few updates

[tall echo]

It's less about rules and more about the fact that nuns are very commonly put into not very nun-like situations

[normal mountain]

Ah, that
Right, that's fair

[tall echo]

Instead she does the complete opposite which also sucks

[normal mountain]

True
But at least she doesn't 180 into hate when talked to

[tall echo]

Can no one have a middling opinion of the most morally grey character ever

[normal mountain]

A middle ground?
On the internet?

you sure that's even possible?

[tall echo]

True, I'm a rare creature

[normal mountain]

As am I

But people hating Entrati bores me more than people liking him, so I tend to lean on the side where I don't fall asleep

[tall echo]

Nuanced opinions are outlawed by the loud ppl these days

[normal mountain]

-# either that, or they're outright ignored for being too complex

[strong viper]

Im legit angry rn

Finished jade shadows. It was touching

But then a friendo spamtexted me about joining my dojo

And i chose the wrong name

And now im gonna get very angry if I ever have to hear or read that name again

So thanks for not allowing a fix for that ig

[strange plinth]

there's a confirmation menu to prevent this??
idk maybe you can contact support about it

[normal mountain]

Yes, definitely contact support about that

[strong viper]

Yeah i blipped through it. Seems support cant even help.

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-11877335675029242228

Time for some ^

[tall echo]

Not like it does anything yet

[strong viper]

Faie

Fair. Just was hoping a second playthrough would mend

Oh well. Least I named Lotus right

Thanks for listening yall

That helped the mostest

[dark compass]

Here's a middle ground

Oops I forgot what the punchline was

Shit...

[waxen mesa]

Elenore accidentally gave me a lore question

does Drifter always end the loop at the reactor?

"punch the floor" seemingly refers to how Drifter was on the floor and hit the floor to loop in the cutscene

[dark compass]

Also when they fell off the atomicycle trying to learn how to ride it

Whether those resets were intentional or not is up to interpretation

[wind ruin]

Drifter always resets the loop at the reactor, yes.

[waxen mesa]

what about new years kiss scenes 🤔 are those not at new years

or is it at 1998's new years

[hazy prism]

I never even thought about that

[sterile spear]

Do you think a prex card based frame will exist? something like a tarot card reader, placing the card at random place for us to collect? the backstory will be how Ballas turn the person to warframe because the fortune tell was so accurate on how natah-turn-lotus still choose the kids.

[hazy prism]

All jokes aside, that's an amazing concept and back story

I don't see why DE wouldn't do a Tarot themed Warframe

[silk atlas]

If that were the case I'd imagine Koumei would've turned out to be that

[strange plinth]

still mildly disappointed that koumei, the fateweaver, is not a spider. instead she's a puppet, which fits more under someone that's incredibly bound to fate rather than being able to change it
the latter fits her abilties but the former fits her lore

[waxen mesa]

i still want my huntmaster kubrow frame

[pine orchid]

tarot frame would be so cool, considering I main astrologian on ffxiv XD

[hazy prism]

I just hope they don't borrow how astro plays if they ever make a tarot frame

[strong viper]

Theyd have to make their own tarot xD

And that can be hard and extensive for just one frame

[pine orchid]

steal some off of Lyon's belt

[strong viper]

But i do like the idea of a major or minor arcana frame

Even tho we got a dice frame already

[strange plinth]

if its using the prex cards like originally mentioned, a bunch already exist

[strong viper]

That sounds palpable

[pine orchid]

and the tarot in ffxiv is super simplified, with only like 6 or 8 cards grouped into like sun/moon decks

[hazy prism]

I pull the Atlas Prex, I'm going to punch you into next week

[waxen mesa]

Equinox rework gives her tarot cards.

[pine orchid]

they could do smth similar with like sol/lua and prex cards

[strong viper]

They already made spidergirl sadly

[strange plinth]

oh... hmm

[dark compass]

Tarot themed warframe and it's Koumei 2

I'm all up for that

[strong viper]

It worked for volt and gauss, hey

[dark compass]

Unironically

[pine orchid]

koumei prime?

[dark compass]

Oh I know

[strong viper]

Primes are just tune ups

[dark compass]

That frame will also have an exalted thrown weapon, which is a deck of cards with a recall like Cantare

[hazy prism]

Thematically different enough, one is a lightning based frame, the other is kinetic energy

[strong viper]

Yes

[dark compass]

Would've been very fancy

[strong viper]

But similar and yet distinct utilities using same asset

[strange plinth]

oraxia wasn't even out when koumei released ! she was still myth !
but yea its just a weird coincidence that a perfect theme for a spiderframe existed and then they made a completely different one and released her right after

[strong viper]

So speed = gambling here

Card = lightning/atk and dice = thermics/ redline

[dark compass]

They make a tarot frame and it's Sciel from expedition 33