lore-discussion

[placid lion]

But I've had this happen 3 or 4 times when I leave missions

[fast dew]

Redtext! Old easter egg

[placid lion]

Easter egg for wha

[pale cedar]

Void Link Severed

Reason foreign carrier detected. Origin unknown. Suspect tracking signal.

Reinitiating dipolar connection on naval carrier.

Bow in standby for sync check and sync.

Motion compensation complete.

Selenic lensing locked.

Somatic control established.

(Margoolihs) implantation intact.

EVM (Could be reference to Eye, Vocal, Movement) status nominal.

War platform awaiting sync.

Initilizing synaptic overlay... Good night, sweet angel

[placid lion]

:o That's so interesting

Did they say what it was for?

[loud oriole]

very old easter egg, like from the second dream iirc

[pale cedar]

Second Dream Teaser they never removed

[placid lion]

Ohhh

Maybe they didn't remove it for a reason

[loud oriole]

or they thought they did because of how rare it happens

[placid lion]

I've had it happen like once a month

Wally hasn't visited me since last summer </3

[pale cedar]

At this point they should keep it for pre Second Dream players remove it post SD

[placid lion]

Ah

Warframe lore never ceases to amaze me

[pale cedar]

It’s 10 years old at this point

[loud oriole]

man tsd was a decade ago

[placid lion]

I stopped at TSD when I played back in 2019

Came back last year in October and I'm fully caught up

[pale cedar]

Warframe as a game can create a Discord account in a year

[placid lion]

Anyone know how far ahead in the future warframe is? Like what year

[loud oriole]

my friend gave me flak last night for not having the silver grove finished, not my fault the one plant I need is near invisible on an already dimly lit tile

[loud oriole]

thousands of years past 1999 p much

[placid lion]

I seee

[loud oriole]

Just from the end of the old peace up to harrows quest is already a thousand years

-# Rell the goat tenno fr

[placid lion]

I'd assume like 3000 or 4000

Tenno sleeps through all of 2000 right?

[pale cedar]

We slept so long we thought we were the Warframe

[loud oriole]

I'd wager we're somewhere in the ballpark of 4000CE to 5000CE

but then again with a biotechnological plague being present in 1999 there's a pretty large margin of era of technology development that isnt aligned with our reality.

plus the huge tech boom when we harnessed the power from TMITW's finger that's another margin to account for

[pale cedar]

Assuming the Hollvania thing is correct you could add 11 thousand to 1999

Closest to an answer

[placid lion]

Fascinating

[dry oracle]

So tagfer is causing problems with Marie and I try confess to Marie and it backfire badly

[silk atlas]

"Tagfer is causing problems with Marie" so you didn't read what happened

[dry oracle]

Thar damn goat I wanna kidnap him and turn him into a thanksgiving dinner

[dry oracle]

Marie probably tried comfort tagfer but it didn't go well probably

[dry oracle]

Dominus king is one of the zariman kids?

[silk atlas]

Not at all.

[dry oracle]

Tagfer still mad at Albrecht

[blissful merlin]

Course he is

[brittle siren]

I mean his love is gone because of Albrecht's experiments and he throws them away like they are nothing to him

[brittle siren]

No

[silk atlas]

Nope, one of the characters in the story of Duviri

[dry oracle]

Saw few cutsences or sentences of him being jealous of someone

Anyways back to confessing to Marie

[drowsy saddle]

I especially like that we can use Marie's own words against her

[brittle siren]

How so

[drowsy saddle]

Her quote about not even having a name

[dry oracle]

And then you see Marie is offline

I tried to confess and she said something like "to get in my good grace... Je vois" and went offline

[brittle siren]

Oh my god
https://fixupx.com/shieldgating/status/2007861279084736592?s=46&t=5XSoAshUqsO-YG_gq2tB3Q

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[dry oracle]

So kaya randomly finds Albrecht

[normal mountain]

It wasn't random, but go on

[ocean geyser]

Horrifying

[ocean geyser]

You fell for the trap

[woven coyote]

Reminder that tagfer is "tagged for disposal"

Like yeah he is mad

[drowsy saddle]

And bird 3 is just... Bird number 3

[ocean geyser]

Tagged for
Tag for
Tagfer

[silk atlas]

Yeah you must've slipped and said that you didn't really believe in Albrecht. You can glaze Albrecht and still pull it off but it's harder.

[ocean geyser]

Fibbo the only dude with an actual name

[brittle siren]

For me I'm always staying neutral about him

[normal mountain]

I'm intrigued
Not because I want to date Marie,
But I feel I am one of the few who doesn't actually hate Albrecht Entrati

[dry oracle]

I was ignoring anything related lyon and I didn't know I could do that but still not glazing after he backshot me (with pistol)

[brittle siren]

Same

[ocean geyser]

I love watching people complain about Marie’s chat ngl

Not saying you are of course

[brittle siren]

I don't hate him but still judge him for how neglecting he is

[ocean geyser]

But it’s always like “hey i confessed to her, why doesn’t she like me???”
Gang she asked you why you lied about liking Entrati and you told her it’s because you wanna get with her
Smh

[dry oracle]

I was trying to get roathe but when I saw confess feeling to max out to get best friends status so I clicked it

[normal mountain]

I'm more of the opinion of "let's deal with the nigh-omnipotent Void Entity first, then see how he handles the cleanup"

[dry oracle]

So tagfer is disposal right?

[ocean geyser]

Tagged for disposal , yes

[loud oriole]

yup his mate died and Albrecht saw no further use after the void experiment and was set to have him euthanized

[normal mountain]

insert Tagfer's rant about how both he and his mate were "Tagged for Disposal"

[brittle siren]

Yeap

[ocean geyser]

I thought they were tagged for disposal… before the experiment?

[woven coyote]

But loid stepped up again and protected the cavia

[woven coyote]

Why would you dispose of the experiement before the experiment

[ocean geyser]

Because they weren’t an experiment then??
Im pretty sure it was like “hm yes Orokin are going to euthanize random ass animals, then Albrecht takes em for the experiment”

[brittle siren]

Though what kind of disposal? Does he mean kill both or dispose them somewhere then collect them back

[dry oracle]

Anyway I got lyon instead

[ocean geyser]

Because BOTH of them were tagged for disposal

Not just Tagfer specifically

[dry oracle]

Oh

[brittle siren]

That does not answer my question

[ocean geyser]

I was responding to everyone else really

[dry oracle]

Like a tag they put on the sheeps and cows?

[brittle siren]

Should have used reply function

[ocean geyser]

As in a status you give something really

Tagged as in marked/identified
it wasn’t a literal tag

Although i think he has something on his ear?

Forgot

[dawn shuttle]

think thats just jewelry of some sort

[dry oracle]

Im pretty sure he has golden earrings

[silk atlas]

No Albrecht called both of them Tagfer

[dry oracle]

Tagfer is last of his kind?

[ocean geyser]

He and minn were yes

[silk atlas]

Both of them were the last breeding pair, that's the whole issue.

[dry oracle]

I mean there's a ways to create a clone

[dawn shuttle]

yes, tagfer and minn were the last cervulites, and albrecht mentions procuring them at great expense iirc

[woven coyote]

Found it they were tagged for disposal after an experiment. Wasnt the bell because minn disappeared in that one

But they were still tagged by albrecht after an experiment

No other orokin involved

[ocean geyser]

I see

[dawn shuttle]

that is interesting though, since isn't it mentioned that the cervulites were procured specifically for the bell experiment? as they were unique enough to draw the indifference?

[loud oriole]

yeah but then you run the risk of complications between the cloned female/off-spring, depends how stable the cervulite DNA is and how their reproductive processes work

[dry oracle]

Where the cervulites come from?

[silk atlas]

Yeah that's why Albrecht got them

[silk atlas]

Somewhere. (Not mentioned)

[dry oracle]

So he could get back in time and get another cervulites

[loud oriole]

he could, would he? nope

[dawn shuttle]

but then, were they 'tagged for disposal' before or after the bell? i guess tagfer might just be extrapolating that she, like him, would have been tagged had she survived..

[dry oracle]

Or did he get them from the past?

[woven coyote]

Before

Minn simply wasnt around after the bell so she wouldnt be able to be tagged in that case

[dawn shuttle]

that's what i mean- why tag them for disposal if they're an important part in an experiment yet to take place?

wouldn't you tag them for, idk, "keep safe until i put them in da bell"

[woven coyote]

Like i said both were tagged for disposal after an experiment

Said experiment cant be the bell because minn simply wouldnt be around to be tagged

[silk atlas]

No, Albrecht only cared about the uniqueness of them

[normal mountain]

Because the experiment was the disposal

[fast dew]

Likely tagged after, Tagfer probably wouldn't remember or be able to read it as "tag for disposal"

[normal mountain]

If it didn't work, they'd die in the Void
Like all the others

[fast dew]

Remember chat, Loid is equally complicit in the shit that happened to the cavia, don't forget that

[woven coyote]

How and why would albrecht tag for disposal someone that isnt there to begin with ?

[woven coyote]

This being minn

[fast dew]

Dead body.

[woven coyote]

What body

She was shunted into the void when fibb opened the bell

[normal mountain]

There was no body
Minn got jettisoned into the Void

Why do you think Tagfer tries to kill the fish?

[fast dew]

Then comes the argument as to how Tagfer knew of the tag itself

[dawn shuttle]

thats why im wondering if tagfer meant 'that was us' in a less literal sense, more so that they were just to be used in the experiment and then disposed of

[normal mountain]

A form of hindsight
He has memories
Now he understands the words in them

[fast dew]

Animals can't read normally, nor can they recognise complex human words

[dawn shuttle]

and that, had minn survived, she too would have been tagged as he was

[fast dew]

It is interesting though

[dry oracle]

Bird 3 is last of his kind as well?

[fast dew]

Albrecht couldn't look at the cavia after it all happened

[dawn shuttle]

i can't believe i came her to inquire about something completely different and got caught up in this lol

[silk atlas]

Because he has the memories of it all from before and now can think about them, that's why they know about stuff that happened before like Fibonacci not even having a name.

[woven coyote]

Tagfer probably just knew he had the tag, knew minn had the tag
And after being able to read figures out that both were tagged for disposal

[fast dew]

Also the end to the cavia notes lowkey read as if Albrecht went to kill himself but ended up in Duviri

[normal mountain]

Happens all the time

[dawn shuttle]

i mean who hasn't that happened to

[fast dew]

A lot of people 😭

[woven coyote]

But still the timeline of events still holds that there was no minn to be tagged after the bell

[fast dew]

I cant say I haven't but

[drowsy saddle]

Mfw the eldritch horror of my own making makes me wanna off myself but instead i wound up in some poor traumatized kid's isekai wonderland turned nightmare

Yeah, average tuesday for most of us

[dawn shuttle]

yuuup

[normal mountain]

It wasn't a nightmare yet
Remember, Drifter only wanted out once he grew up

[fast dew]

Don't forget, that is isekai is written by his daughter and has to hear his Daughter's voice every morning

[normal mountain]

Based on bedtime stories he told her as a kid

[dry oracle]

Old Teshin Is a father figure to drifter?

[fast dew]

If we look at his time in duviri through the lens of a failed attempt, of course he felt as if he was a coward

[dawn shuttle]

ugh we end as we began or something...

[fast dew]

IKR ITS SO SAD.

[drowsy saddle]

Orokin bedtime stories are just futuristic German fairy tales

"If you throw a tantrum, a giant dragon will emerge from your buthole and eat you whole"

[fast dew]

He also keeps that book in his netracells

He keeps his Daughter's book, in the netracells

[silk atlas]

Teshin barely did anything for Drifter. Just whatever you saw in the quest

[pale cedar]

Wally

[fast dew]

It was specifically the characters

He recognised the characters

So.

Reckon Albrecht tried to sing as The sorrow courtier? (Forgot her name)

Its not sythel, thats fear i think

[dry oracle]

So he's more a teacher

[normal mountain]

Still a significant moment
Taught Drifter how to use a blade, how to command Warframes (with only a Sentient's severed arm, no less)

[pale cedar]

Teshin was a terrible teacher

[normal mountain]

Luscinia

[fast dew]

Jesus christ what a name.

No wonder i couldn't remember it

[loud oriole]

teshin showed us/drifter how to use the safe part of the sword instead of only being exposed to the pointy poke side of one

[fast dew]

Albrecht served as a teacher to the drifter when he was in duviri

[drowsy saddle]

Tbf the knowledge of how to swing a sword seems to be something you can just... Install like a software update

Like what are stance mods

[dry oracle]

When?

[normal mountain]

cue Lodun "DEATH BY IMPALEMENT!"

[dawn shuttle]

when he was in duviri 👍

[loud oriole]

400TB of ancient sword arts force installed directly to the cortex in 0.5nano seconds

[fast dew]

His time in duviri, in his notes. He speaks of being the scholar for the child king, and Neci-Wally further specifying that we used to be "close."

Theres just the chance the drifter forgot after so many cycles

[dawn shuttle]

kim conversations also make it seem like the drifter is at least aware they met, even if they might not remember it

conversations with marie, i think?

[pale cedar]

Operator still never meeting Albrecht ever so is chasing a man they barely know anything about

[drowsy saddle]

Vengeful Revenant is actually the Stalker's 2000 chapter hatefic about the Tenno

[dry oracle]

Oh the oraxia

[woven coyote]

"Uhhhh scratch that death by meteor!!!"

[fast dew]

And Albrecht acting as a father figure isnt uncommon for him either

[drowsy saddle]

B I G R O C K

[dawn shuttle]

albrecht keeps picking up the role as deadbeat father wherever he goes... its so heartwarming...

[loud oriole]

glad that meteor really gave us a hand at finally breaking the cycle in duviri

[fast dew]

No but imagine Albrecht telling that story to a little Euleria and doing a big dramatic "DEATH BY METEOR"

Sorry the brainworms

[woven coyote]

Lol

[pale cedar]

It's so bullet worthy

[fast dew]

I dont think he was a deadbeat, he just thinks himself as a wet rag

[drowsy saddle]

He's not even a cool deadbeat dad like Stay Gold, at least he came home with da milk

[fast dew]

Mother also was a grown adult with children when he left

[dry oracle]

But the question is how he get in the duviri or there was a big sign with "duviri this way" pointing a rift to duviri

[loud oriole]

Albrecht is like my regional manager; he shows up, messes things up, doesn't elaborate, and leaves

[drowsy saddle]

Void shenanigananery

[fast dew]

As i mentioned, I fully think he just jumped into the void expecting to die

[woven coyote]

Either accident or wally

[normal mountain]

Probably similar to how Teshin got there
Void hole

[fast dew]

I dont think he even knew of Duviri

[fast dew]

Dying in the way he was supposed to, yk?

[drowsy saddle]

Albrecht wanted that sick Kratos falling off a cliff moment but failed

[dawn shuttle]

though, couldn't he also have some sort of way to find manifestations/conceptual embodiments in the void? big scanner thingamabob idk

[pale cedar]

I'm gonna drag him and throw him

[dry oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-26454802

[fast dew]

Because it goes "my guilt would only deepen. I must atone for what I had done through my own blood." from the cavia immediately into duviri

[dawn shuttle]

not that he necessarily used it for duviri, that is

[dry oracle]

So Albrecht created oraxia in duviri?

[pale cedar]

If Albrecht can throw animals into the Void why can't we throw him in?

[dawn shuttle]

interesting. i've always imagined that to mean more like "its time to stop sacrificing others for this purpose and to start risking my own skin"

[normal mountain]

Huh...
So Albrecht did try suicide
There's probably a reason my brain didn't connect the dots there

[dry oracle]

Because he's lucky

[dawn shuttle]

with this being his first step into moving around in the void and across time

although, he clearly didn't stop sacrificing others to further his goals..

[normal mountain]

Tbf, he did start getting better with the whole "consent" thing

[fast dew]

Tbf, it took me until now and its from another source, Grandmother, that made me think it

[dry oracle]

So how drifter can reset/rewind the time outside the duviri I thought it only works there

[dawn shuttle]

they are voided the hell up, pretty much

[normal mountain]

sweet cheese, that could be taken far out of context 🤣 😭

[fast dew]

||grandmother mentions getting tablets saying he was going to let himself die, which makes me think he actually sealed the labs off far earlier than what we thought,||

[dawn shuttle]

would this not just be him not drinking the kuva anymore?

[dry oracle]

If he wants to suicide then why didn't he just shoot himself in head

[pale cedar]

Inbox message:
What happened?

Drifter,

I can make no sense at all of these readings. Your site of temporal injection has somehow shifted. Your loop now encompasses the entire year of 1999.

Albrecht's interference is to blame, no doubt. What does he feel you need more time to achieve? He surely must have given guidance, however cryptic!

I can offer one service, at least. I discovered a clandestine blueprint among Albrecht's personal effects, for a warframe so secret it was never named. It is yours.

—Loid

[fast dew]

It could be, but we cant identify when he actually let go of kuva

[fast dew]

We end as we began.

He was "reborn" from the void incident, he'll die in the void

[dawn shuttle]

especially since he is still alive... mfw i stop drinking the kuva to no longer live forever, only to keep living forever anyways

[fast dew]

Tbf he was in a loop, resetting his age for years

And theres time distortion between xx99 and now, at least. So we could probably assume the same for 1999

Along with the fact folk in warframe live for ages

Darvo is... 115? I think?

And thats without orokin meddling

[dry oracle]

Wat

[dawn shuttle]

no wonder his deals are so good 😍

[pale cedar]

Almost 105

[normal mountain]

Don't forget Teshin, who has been active since the Old War

[fast dew]

Ah, ten years off

[fast dew]

Mhm, Teshin too

Loid would be at a minimum his 60s before cryo

[normal mountain]

Teshin never slept in a cryopod, either

[dry oracle]

So almost all characters doesn't age

[fast dew]

Not visually i suppose, at least for loid.

[pale cedar]

Drifter aged

[fast dew]

Orokin skincare

[dawn shuttle]

they just rub kuva on the skin surely

[fast dew]

Baby oil made from babies

[dawn shuttle]

ah, the yuvan special

[pale cedar]

Game companies don't make characters age visually because they'd have to constantly change models

[fast dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447039990847504535/1448726608981659689/IMG_0074.gif

God I genuinely love that Albrecht wears eyeliner

[pale cedar]

Wore eyeliner

Then he made his eyes blue

[dawn shuttle]

entirely unrelated to prior convos, the question i came here for:
Do we have any concrete timeline for the development/discovery of transference? From lines in the Second Dream quest it seems to be implied that transference was developed after margulis' death? which of course can't really be the case given that we use it during the old peace, at a time where margulis seems very much alive?

[ocean geyser]

Silver Grove points this out pretty well

It was developed while she was alive

[dawn shuttle]

alright, yeah i figured silver grove would have been a good place to check lol

[ocean geyser]

As a therapy for the tenno, actually
But then the war got bad enough that the Orokin to use the Tenno as Operators, and then
Yk

[dawn shuttle]

right

i guess it works out if the old war is long enough, like at least 3-4 years long?

with the line from ballas about the zariman children that were consigned to lua 'a few years ago' (iirc)

[normal mountain]

I'm sorry, I have to laugh at this
The Old War was long enough that the Orokin designed, build and implemented Necramechs and then Warframes, all before the Zariman came back that first time

I'm guessing at least 50 years

[dawn shuttle]

lol yeah i mean that is fair

[normal mountain]

Maybe even a couple centuries

[dawn shuttle]

crazy given how hard they were losing initially but i guess their development held stuff at bay for long enough yeah

forgive me for being silly then :)

[normal mountain]

It's fine
We don't get wars that long in this current age of Earth

[pale cedar]

We didn't even win

[dawn shuttle]

who are we ... 👀

[ocean geyser]

Tbh nobody really won

[normal mountain]

Nemesis is Orokin confirmed

[ocean geyser]

Nemesis is grimoire

[pale cedar]

Sentients purposefully pretended to lose Hunhow went into the ocean and waited for Natah to open his tomb

[dry oracle]

The big nyx?

[dawn shuttle]

god warframe lore is full of really patient characters huh

[dry oracle]

From dark sector

[normal mountain]

No

[normal mountain]

@dry oracle this Nemesis

[dry oracle]

Oh

[pale cedar]

New War was Sentients re-emerging to continue the war with the plan changed a little

[dawn shuttle]

luckily every plan ever involves Ballas 😍

[pale cedar]

Indeed

Ballas planned the Naga Drums too which many players miss

[dawn shuttle]

but did he plan roathe's plan...

[pale cedar]

For once he didn't

[dawn shuttle]

guess that's why it didn't work out

ballas the only mover in the origin system fr fr

[pale cedar]

90% of plans involve Ballas 10% is 5% Albrecht 5% any other Orokin

[dry oracle]

Marie just called me a devil when I use drifter mode

OK tagfer I'm going to dispose you

[pale cedar]

I think she's talking to Roathe

[dry oracle]

I'm using her protoframe skin

[pale cedar]

Wait

This might mean dating dialogue exists

[dry oracle]

They are but glitched I think

[pale cedar]

Many players haven't been able to get them

[dawn shuttle]

like gemini skin dating voicelines?

[dry oracle]

Yes

[dawn shuttle]

another thing for the post-holiday patches i suppose :P

[pale cedar]

I feel there's gonna be a load of fixes when they return

[dry oracle]

She calls me a ghostly devil after confession incident

[dawn shuttle]

sounds to me like you are a ghostly devil

[dry oracle]

Ye

[dry oracle]

I'm

Good thing me and Roathe are bestie

In crimes

[marble pewter]

They do exist but I thought I haven’t gotten them because I’m not at R6 Loved yet

[marble pewter]

Even those in R6?

[pale cedar]

I’m at loved and there's only the regular dialogue

[marble pewter]

Noooooo😭😭

It has to be a bug

[pale cedar]

Most likely

[dry oracle]

Feels like so rare to get a different dialogues

[twin wigeon]

i get lines calling me wolf

[dry oracle]

Speaking of wolf..

[strange turtle]

He didn’t go all the way back, he was there during it

[rancid tinsel]

takes the song "Hungry like the wolf" to a new meaning

[normal mountain]

I had that playing in my head during the Amar fight in New War
and every time I fight him in an Archon Hunt

[rancid tinsel]

lol

[drowsy saddle]

When we get to tau, we better get an amar dog skin

[loud oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/awoo-heavy-weights-yeat-wolf-gif-1326479860896545498

[rancid tinsel]

now I want to pet a wolf

[robust sleet]

it took me three resets to realize this is a reference to eleanor's va being the narrator in baldur's gate 3

[loud oriole]

but you can pet your kubrow..
-# that you probably have yet to pet in a long time

[marble timber]

I pet mine everytime I see him smh

[loud oriole]

as it should be

[marble pewter]

You can also pet your Hounds but only in the Dormizone

[tall echo]

why only there..?

[dry oracle]

Why quincy keeps saying "having trouble walking tomorrow" "soft squeeze trigger"

[oblique plaza]

has anyone worked to translate the book in the cathedral?

[rancid tinsel]

the one with the triad?

[oblique plaza]

yeah

[rancid tinsel]

let me look

i did spend time figuring out what the 1999 messages where about someone getting annoyed where arthur was parking his bike

[rancid tinsel]

which book

[oblique plaza]

theres one by lyon, and some by roathe

the on this table is the clearest

[rancid tinsel]

ty

good grief....

[oblique plaza]

best way to see it is to turn your fov all the way down in captura camera mode, theres a lot

and some characters i dont recognize

[rancid tinsel]

indeed theres alot, dont think I have the mentality to figure it out

[strange plinth]

its been translated, i'll find the message

[rancid tinsel]

oh, that works too lol

[strange plinth]

its kinda filler but might have significance
it isn't basic lorem ipsum but it doesn't make much sense either
oh yea credit to Aifrie in the archives server for the translation

[wind ruin]

Same verse, repeated several times. It does make sense; this is a religious book, and possibly also a reference to Soulframe.

No, Soulframe and Warframe are not in the same universe, this is more of a passing nod.

[loud oriole]

only thing similar between both is the name structure, engine, and the studio behind it

[marble pewter]

Idk I just found out by accident. It’s most likely because there’s technically no incubation area in the dormizone so it’s possible to interact with the Hounds

[tall echo]

oh so it's just a hitbox thing

you can interact from a specific spot when they're in the incubator area

[rose heath]

Contagion Proboscis Cernos. If you give it Viral from nourish, you have the perfect primer! :3

[marble pewter]

Oh really? I’ll try again, thanks for letting me know

[winged flume]

Let me date Kaya... please.

[pale cedar]

No

[strange plinth]

no.

[livid anvil]

Is void lugger some sort of slur ?

[rancid tinsel]

yes

[placid lion]

Slur against Tenno

[rancid tinsel]

uh actually it was against the sentiant (i think)

[placid lion]

Ah its both

Or wait

Against sentients, was used against the player cuz they're friends with adis

[strange plinth]

it was towards adis
adis speaks right before daklo says it

[pallid spoke]

He says it to Adis because Adis calls him stupid.

[fast dew]

You wanna date the freshly 19 year old? Who's could possibly be 18 at some point in the game

[brittle siren]

So does anyone know this already? https://fixupx.com/shieldgating/status/2007861279084736592?s=46&t=5XSoAshUqsO-YG_gq2tB3Q

Warframe Archival (@shieldgating)

Albrecht's Final words to Loid during Whispers in the Wall

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FixupX · Jan 4, 2026, 5:06 PM

[lean garden]

this doesn't matter because you can pick what he actually said at the end of the quest

[brittle siren]

Yeah but it's nice to know that this "kinda” supposed to be canon one, even though DE has to make it illegible to listen to so we could choose at the end

[lean garden]

it not "kinda" supposed to be canon, of all 4 versions, its the least canon

[brittle siren]

Why is it “least” canon when it's the only voiceline related to what Albrecht said to Loid that exists in the game file?

My theory is that DE does not intend to have 3 choices at the beginning, but then they change it at the last minute and make it harder to hear in-game through the voice filter, just like how some Cephalon (like Melicia) have no filter in the file but in-game they do

[lean garden]

because you have 3 other choices that stand directly as the actual words albrecht said

it is therefore the least canon because 1) it was made unintelligible for us to choose and 2) the only way we hear it is if someone clears out all the audio

[brittle siren]

And the last one is actually what he said in the voiceline

nvm it not the same

though the last one is just rephrase from the voice line above

[glass flume]

she may be 19, but no

[fast dew]

"Do not let it see you weeping" im actually exploding thank you Albrecht

"My last sight of your face must not be marred by tears" AREHHHHH

"If only I could have been worthy of you, my Loid."

Screaming exploding dying crying

[mystic lynx]

Is there a lore reason the vanguard prime is like 1.5x our size?

[sweet wadi]

They’re trauma memories and therefore larger than life?

Idk

[narrow pendant]

no, just so we can hit them better, thats why they dont bullet jump all over the place too

[strange plinth]

iirc confirmed by rebb that they're just big to make them more obvious targets

[sweet wadi]

That too

[brittle siren]

Conclave flashback

[fast dew]

Yeah unless you dont kill protea fast enough. Spamming her abilities like that. Piece of shit.

[narrow pendant]

u can break her temp anchor though

[sweet wadi]

Protea’s heal is the most challenging part of that fight

[fast dew]

Not if you're running a melee build and have dog shit team mates 😭

[brittle siren]

and Caliban is extremely tanky

[narrow pendant]

the first time i fought the vanguard (was solo SP too 😭) i had to rely on naramon sling stun + eternal finisher loop

[sweet wadi]

At least it’s not frost. Fighting inside a permanent snow globe would drive me crazy

[fast dew]

Or nyx in her... 4?

[brittle siren]

what melee frame you using btw

[mystic lynx]

Ash insta kill is kinda stupid as well

[brittle siren]

or Rev

[sweet wadi]

Or Grendel’s 1

[narrow pendant]

imagine limbo just trapping you in his dimension and running off

[brittle siren]

Rev 2 can reflect dmg

[sweet wadi]

Go to belly jail

[brittle siren]

iirc DE has make that Grendel 1 can't swallow us even in friendly fire mode, he used to be able to though

[sweet wadi]

As if he wasn’t hated enough before

[fast dew]

Because im delusional and believe in proto-limbo-is-going-to-be-loid theory, I shall now imagine this is was Loid does when the cavia piss him off

[narrow pendant]

the suspiciously empyrian fighter ship shaped grendel

[brittle siren]

Limbo: let time stop you and I will yap about math

[sweet wadi]

Elaborate, I find this idea interesting

[fast dew]

Look at Loid, look at Limbo prime. Theres also a connection to Loid's story and Limbo's abilities i think?

[brittle siren]

idk why I think Loid is more suit to be a Loki (for no reason at all)

[fast dew]

Id cry and personally fly to Canada and steal Rebecca's lunches.

[sweet wadi]

It’s because they’re both fancy, isn’t it?

[narrow pendant]

and scholars

[fast dew]

Have you seen Loid's clothes and limbo prime 😭 its been a thing for a while that they're really weirdly similar

[narrow pendant]

well, protos are based on the regular frame though

[fast dew]

And they're scholars focusing on specifically other dimensions and the functionality of them

[brittle siren]

Mirage Proto gonna be just Jinx from LoL (and a bit from Arcane), or Harley Quinn

[sweet wadi]

Loid fits a Dante proto given his history with the frame and the void tongue

[brittle siren]

and he even selling Dante parts

[fast dew]

Ehh, Dante isnt really the same imo

[sweet wadi]

Tbh though Loid deserves a vacation, not warframification

[brittle siren]

yeah Dante too bulky (even for himself)

[fast dew]

||He's seeing the family upstairs. What do you think will happen.||

[brittle siren]

like he would use his Noctua to slap me even if he have 0 energy

[fast dew]

Limbo idle where he takes of his hat but its Loid taking off his oculus

[sweet wadi]

I highly doubt it will be the quiet he so desperately wants

[fast dew]

He has the quiet in the labs, he does go walking a lot (he kills the murmur when he does as well i guess??)

[brittle siren]

though if Loid is a Limbo proto, a new idle need to make

because Limbo default one is kinda too whimsical

[narrow pendant]

imagine its just daughter desperately wanting to cut open Fibonacci

[fast dew]

Let the man be whimsical smh

[sweet wadi]

Or Son immediately adopting them

“Grandpa did what?”

[fast dew]

I actually dont remember what son's line is post cutscene

[sweet wadi]

I actually need to max my family standing still… I never bothered to

[brittle siren]

Though this is heavy spoiler, but I want to ask: is there an actual reunion for Entrati family with Loid in game yet, or just for the future?

[narrow pendant]

i wish we could also tell mother about duviri, at least make her like aware of it becoming real, some voiceline after you finish the quest

[narrow pendant]

yes but the trigger for it is bugged for most

thomas has a link to a video of it i think?

[fast dew]

Yes I do! Lemme get it

I really should pin it to my clipboard

[brittle siren]

because i'm really close to it and I don't want the game messing up when it happen

[fast dew]

Actually chat is this a new line or nah

[narrow pendant]

worst thing is it gets delayed for you until they fix the bug

[fast dew]

You aren't missing much, I'll tell you that

[strange plinth]

i don't think so?

[fast dew]

Oh good

[narrow pendant]

would need to check the wiki

[fast dew]

So marie was just speaking shit for the sake of it

[strange plinth]

i think that's tied to r5 entrati rather than loid
because that cutscene has a similar revelation

[narrow pendant]

the wiki doesnt even mention the cutscene yet its broken for so many

[brittle siren]

damn, ok end of spoiler, I want to see this for myself

[fast dew]

||"Euleria didnt forgive Albrecht im the only one who does"||
Mother:

[narrow pendant]

well shes gomaitru now 🤓 ☝️

[fast dew]

This isnt from the cutscene dw, she has a whole line after tho

||"He's alive, Ayatan. The man who made sure I was up and dressed every morning. He lit candles with me in my mother's memory. He taught me to be kind, even if I forgot. I thought he was dead, necralized, but all this time he's been there under my feet! Oh Loid, why didn't you come to me sooner? Were you ashamed that my father abandoned us both?"||

Im gonna explode.

WARFRAME ARCHIVAL WHAT

[still frigate]

Yeah they all have a single new one

[narrow pendant]

NECRALIZE YOURSELF! NOW!

[brittle siren]

he in DE private server??????

[fast dew]

She says ||"Oh Loid"|| in the most saddest way possible and it makes me want to die

"ITS MUCKING RAW" me when my heart when loid

[still frigate]

Loid also has one idk if it's a email or dialogue cuz i dont play this game anymore

[fast dew]

The Loid Cutscene :) Roathe is missing his Loincloth for some reason

||https://youtu.be/C5jgr_tehSE?si=SA7iNn50UKIrnNIw||

[still frigate]

it's just one big group of people getting emotional after so many years

[narrow pendant]

asserting dominance

[fast dew]

Idk either, but im hoping it's him next to Mother

||Its interesting though, everyone else is focused on Albrecht leaving, but mother, the one who it affected most, is only focused on Loid being back||

[wind ruin]

Euleria was always certain Albrecht was still alive.

[fast dew]

She had every right to, but she did accept that he was gone in r5

Also

||Im still mentally stuck on Marie saying the family (mother) was why Albrecht hasnt came back, and what r1 to r4 mother would do to her for even suggesting such a thing||

[wind ruin]

More like, she dropped her obsession over finding him? I think.

[fast dew]

The implication was that he was dead iirc

[narrow pendant]

i do wonder though

doesnt loid need some sort of protection from the infested family?

[wind ruin]

Only in as much as they're Orokin and still have authority over him.

[fast dew]

No as in infestation

[wind ruin]

Relatively sure he's protected from the infestation somehow.

[fast dew]

Mm. Do we think this will be used later maybe?

The labs was sealed so the infestation couldn't get in, murmur couldn't get out, among other things.

[narrow pendant]

i mean if he wouldve gotten infested he couldve made necraloid speak for him

[fast dew]

And this is where protoframe loid gonna come from

Loid gets infested, turns himself to a proot to save himself, bcs iirc the protoframe serum halts other infestation variants (like w flare i think?)

[brittle siren]

Wait so does Murmur and Wally's wall form is made from bones?

[silk atlas]

Murmur is made from parts of Wally, but no idea where you got the "bones" idea from

[strange plinth]

the wall of bone that corrupted vor mentions maybe

[silk atlas]

The only real resource we know they're made of is "decayed universes" so far

[strange plinth]

yea, animated by temporal dust
Stela as well maybe? "This Void-touched stone contains an ominous essence."

[fast dew]

Mmm, what's the grotesque splinters description? The currency from Gargoyle's cry

[strange plinth]

"A foreboding fragment of the vast Indifference."
hm.

[fast dew]

Nothing that's not known. Shit.

Today I learned Euleria commissioned the duviri dog to exist irl 😭

[hazy prism]

She really got to bring her story to life

[brittle siren]

Wait so

Harrow has a special ost when reviewing his ability?

[brittle siren]

yeah her horse design is also used by Ballas in Old Peace

[fast dew]

Oh shit

You have a point

[brittle siren]

Though tbf, idk if those horse is from her books or they already exist and she reused them in her book

because the ppl in Duviri suppose to represent the Orokin (since most of them has blue skin too)

[normal mountain]

Ballas' horses did look a bit more... fleshed out than the Kaithes of Duviri

[brittle siren]

well Duviri one is skeleton one like Dagath's, Ballas one is not real horse either

or they could be real too, since the dog above is real

[hazy prism]

they're modified or using some armor, since the atmosphere of Perita shouldn't be breathable normally

[jolly root]

Was ballas wearing a breather?

[hazy prism]

good question, let me check a vod of the quest

[hazy prism]

he was not

[jolly root]

Hm

Was the operator wearing one i was pretty sure they were

[hazy prism]

ok that's weird, i could believe the pod itself was sealed, but it's weird he doesn't use one coming out

operator was using a mask, same cutscene where Ballas is revealed we see operator

[jolly root]

That is wierd

[hazy prism]

he's just aura farming, since he knows he gonna be Teleported anyways, so he held his breathe /j

[jolly root]

And making us hate him even more

[brittle siren]

I mean he is modified human, he ofc has sth in his lung to prevent from poisoning

also remember that he literally being beam by the Sun radiation and not dying

[hazy prism]

i know the Orokins have body mods, but was a lung/respiratory one like ever specified?

[brittle siren]

no, I just assumed that is the case

[winged flume]

I thought she was at least 20 something. She just seems like a really cool person.

[wind ruin]

And she has so much trauma from the last time she dated, she literally researched time travel to escape the memories.

[fast dew]

Mhm.

[winged flume]

Ah, I'm not that far yet in the all of the that. I did the Hex last year to get to Isleweaver then disappeared from Warframe, then came back for Galleon of Ghouls, then walked away, then came back for Old Peace, and I've been back for at least a week now?

I missed Plague Star and Naberus my two favourite things because I was just in a weird relationship with Warframe based off of real world relationship things so it was a coloured psyche type of life in and around Warframe.

Running away to Star Trek Online was far easier mentally.

[civic ruin]

To me Kaya is prolly the most intriguing person out of the 1999 cast, id date her too if i could but sadly drifter is older than her and i

[thick yacht]

Hear me out

What if there were Tenno prime

[hazy prism]

Tenno prime is just prime accessories

[thick yacht]

🗿

smh

[hazy prism]

Ok, in a more serious attempt to answer that

Primes are just upgraded versions of a warframe or weapon

So there isn't really anything for operators that does that, maybe the tektolyst weapons

[thick yacht]

[restive river]

Yeah no “tenno prime” doesn’t really make sense

Closest you get is prime accessories
The primes are things that are made, the tenno weren’t made but their clothing/suits sure were

[winged flume]

Tenno Prime is Rell, and we all can't be Rell.

Unless.

[restive river]

But he didn’t work under or for the Orokin

[brittle siren]

Tuvul with Voruna’s OP would be the closest to Tenno Prime

Otherwise yeah they don't exist

[restive river]

Us during the Old Peace is the closest thing to Tenno Prime
So any Tenno active during the Old War, which was all of them, would be Tenno Prime.

[brittle siren]

Yeah

[restive river]

Also
People just
Aren’t primes??

[brittle siren]

Though strange that we stop using the prime outfit when we go to sleep

[restive river]

Orokin Era Grineer are made and so you can get away with calling them primes, sure
But there weren’t Dax Prime, maybe prime armor for them, maybe an improved variant as they were made but the tenno weren’t made by the Orokin and thus can not in any way be primed

[brittle siren]

(to be fair DE haven't made any prime outfit for OP when Second Dream released)

[restive river]

Mom wanted us in the zariman suit for some reason

Probably cause it was comfier or was meant to maybe hint us towards our history if we ever awoke

[strange plinth]

if she took away the memories of the old war, our last memories would prolly be the zariman

[restive river]

She took those too tho

She sealed away all of the trauma

[strange plinth]

she took the traumatic pieces
seems like she left the stuff before, based on TSD dialogue?

[restive river]

Oh yeah true
But in war within its about us uncovering things further, the actual incident itself

[fast dew]

Trauma is still gonna do trauma things even if you forget it!??! who could've thought it

[restive river]

Due to the abilities we have during the old peace that are specifically obtained from unsealing our zariman trauma it could be we were aware during the war for a time but were working on it and then almost everything was sealed away post peace

I’m thinking that she helped us with trauma, as we know, helped to establish the schools and assisted with mastering our abilities, the trauma from the Zariman being something we were working on or were sealed away at the time of the war
Then all the trauma gets sealed post peace and all we really remember is our therapy, our trauma still effecting us ofc but less so due to it being sealed away
Those memories then acting as the key to fully unlock our abilities during the War Within with the Old Peace being a more intense version of the same thing with the Tauron Strikes

[hazy prism]

Quick lore question, did Umbra stay active for the duration after his creation until his destruction in the sacrifice

[strange plinth]

probably, he was stuck in that chamber we find the vitruvian in
escapes due to moonquakes caused by taking the moon out of the void

[restive river]

I believe so, he was just in his enclosure til we took Lua out of the void

[hazy prism]

Ah that makes sense, ok I thought he was just wandering around for the entire duration, but being trapped and then freed by 2nd dream makes more sense

[restive river]

Ballas made him
Made him kill his son
Then locked him away
Lua gets put in the void
~1,000 years later
We pull Lua out of the void
Moonquakes cause him to escape his enclosure
He makes it to Earth
Sentients blast him to dust
We recreate him based off his fragments

The bigger question is where Ballas was tbh probably in cryosleep til the moonquakes

[hazy prism]

Yeah some form of cryosleep, maybe even on Lua

[restive river]

Most likely on Lua since his first appearance is him on Lua taking mom away

While he was somehow the least terrible he was clearly the slipperiest of the Seven

[fast dew]

Makes me worry about Avantus and Scarne lol

[hazy prism]

Man, lowkey want a executor who's just ok, like they did continuity and some bad stuff, but no warcrimes, just normal hubris and weird orange and blue morality

Like the most well adjusted Executor (who's still a PoS but not as bad)

[restive river]

Scarne seemed like the. Not kindest? But he did want peace with the Sentients

[hazy prism]

I guess Roathe is the closest to that

[restive river]

They all def did warcrimes

[hazy prism]

I mean, maybe their warcrime was perfidy and not genocide

[restive river]

I feel like Albrecht or Roathe are def the closest, as you said with Roathe

[hazy prism]

Something like that

[restive river]

So most Orokin

I do hope we get more on Scarne and Tormis

[fast dew]

I feel as if Roathe thinks hes so bad bcs he wanted to hide in the void lol

[strange turtle]

They presumably already existed because we know the Orokin had weird synthetic looking animals already and it’d be weird if he commissioned horses from a children’s help book

[hazy prism]

There was definitely an angle for Scarne to exploit the sentients I bet, hence he chose peace

[fast dew]

Im praying avantus is sapphic smh

[restive river]

Is it bad to be a coward when you’re scared of the most advanced beings known to exist?

[restive river]

TOXIC YURI!!!!

[fast dew]

No thats why im with him for that bcs jfc

[winged flume]

Every interaction I have with Roathe, my kavat likes to meow afterword which just makes everything he says sound like he's small cat who wants to be loved.

[restive river]

Roathe is absolutely a cat of a man

There are two cat boys in Albrecht’s life
One is feral
The other is Loid

[hazy prism]

As much as I agree with this, I think a shoebill fits Roathe quite well too

[winged flume]

I love them both though.

[strange turtle]

Tbf they could have been given like, Prime augments

[brittle siren]

And one giant cat that he left in 1999

[restive river]

I’d love art of him doing the shoebill stare

[restive river]

I said cat BOY
Kalymos is not a boy

[restive river]

The tenno? Maybe

[fast dew]

Theres also viktor, evil emo green katboy

Katboy with a k bcs viktor is spelt w a k

[hazy prism]

A possible Tenno prime is if we ever get body mods/augmentations for whatever reason in the story

[winged flume]

Viktor is so, boring.

[fast dew]

Fascist twink, dime a dozen

[restive river]

TRUE

Albrecht’s got many cats in his life

[winged flume]

Nessy has depth though, but that's mostly because Wally took hold.

[fast dew]

He is but a catdad

And a real dad but yk

[restive river]

Default facist who had his cool tattoos removed

[fast dew]

Tramp stamp viktor still exists to me

[restive river]

Her parents add onto that too

[fast dew]

It always will

[strange turtle]

According to Roathe Scarne was the smart one

[strange turtle]

Dax I mean

[restive river]

Def tracks
I kinda hope he survived cause he seems like a possible fun to hate villain akin to Ballas

[fast dew]

Maybe Roathe just doesnt like pragmatism 😭

[winged flume]

Viktor is angry because... for no reason. Just because.

[restive river]

Oooh
Dax are augmented regardless but yeah they could def get more

[fast dew]

He was connected to Neci to some extent

Lovers? Maybe?

[restive river]

Maybe a fling

[strange turtle]

Yeah that’s what I mean like, Prime variants of their augmentation

[restive river]

Maybe friends with benefits

[strange plinth]

because the hex still refuse to die/give up

[strange turtle]

He’s angry because he’s sick and tired of beating the dead horse-

[fast dew]

I mean, drifter mentions that Wally got between them as well, so its like

Get between what. Get between what drifter

[restive river]

Anyone got the Viktor witnessing all the different frames tumblr post

[fast dew]

Nup i wish I did

[strange plinth]

the post which has only gotten funnier recently with The Devil being added to the roster

[restive river]

I think everyone here knows what I’m talking about already lmao

[fast dew]

I do think I have top surgery viktor somewhere

Yk the. The meme

[hazy prism]

Vijtor getting more confused as we being new frames everytime a new one gets released

[restive river]

Oh he is 100% an evil trans man in my head

[strange turtle]

https://www.tumblr.com/shaw-punsexualnerd/774390434108768256/honestly-go-read-the-tags-and-reblogs-yourself

ʎɐp ǝuo ǝɯ ןןıʞ oʇ buıob sı ǝuıɐɹbıɯ ǝɥʇ

🔁 thatanonymoussandwich

runningwolf62

I think we need to discuss what The Hex looks like from The Scaldra side given they have no clue of anything regarding Warframes.

January 12th 1999, Viktor Vodyanoi is baffled that 50+ new members joined The Hex litterally overnight.

He has no idea which of them, if any, are the Drifter Nightingale keeps talking to on the coms.

thatanonymoussandwich

Oh my god this idea is so funny

shaw-punsexualnerd

Honestly go read the tags and reblogs yourself because it's hysterical, here's my thanks for making me almost piss myself

-# #warframe 1999 #viktor vodyanoi #warframe #scaldra #scaldra warframe #doodles #im not tagging al the warframes popping up on the board

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[restive river]

They both did hrt in my head

[fast dew]

Love how im represented by facist twink and racist space grandpa

[restive river]

In-universe its more like more we’re discovering lol

[strange plinth]

i love this one

[restive river]

And I’m represented by hot toxic lady taken over by eldritch entity!
And the amazing Ticker, the literal best and most good character in warframe

[strange turtle]

A PREGNANT WOMAN

[fast dew]

You got ticker at least 😭

[restive river]

Ticker my beloved

Seriously she does no wrong

[fast dew]

Shes honestly the best

I love her face animations

I wish we could see em better

[winged flume]

Ticker is amazing, so is Little Duck, and Eudico.

[restive river]

Little Duck, also my beloved

[winged flume]

Rude Zude needs more love too.

[restive river]

Her and Ticker should kiss
Source?
Me.

[fast dew]

Business makes me laugh

[restive river]

She does have the orb fight but if we get another Fortuna update I’d love if some of the og cast made an appearance

[fast dew]

Id say Grandmother and Dagath should kiss but then I remembered grandmother is orokin and I dont think thats a good idea

[restive river]

Fortuna and Necralisk are def the contenders for best open world faction
Which ok yeah there’s only really 3 lol

[restive river]

And then you also remember Dagath doesn’t have lips

[fast dew]

She doesn't need them! :)

Why am I like this.

Someone shoot me

[restive river]

Speaking of
I rewatched the dagath update trailer and there’s a fun shot where the camera goes through her head

I wonder if you can recreate that in captura actually

[fast dew]

Laser pov

[winged flume]

A Mari Llowd skin for Dagath would slap so hard. Just give me a Celtic horse skeleton woman.

[fast dew]

We are getting a new skin for her soon

[hazy prism]

At the rate of warframe releases (around 3-4 a year) we'll have 100 different frames (excluding primes and umbra) by the year 2036

[restive river]

We are getting one of the most banger skins ever soon

[fast dew]

Like. Very soon

[restive river]

That hair
Mmm…

[fast dew]

I bought her just for that skin

[restive river]

If you include primes we hit a 100 around Jade/Protea Prime iirc lol

[winged flume]

I bought Dagath when she debuted because I was like, nah we need her; now.

[restive river]

I don’t even wanna think about how many variations there truly are

[dry oracle]

Man I literally just tried to apologise and got this

[winged flume]

I've missed all my favourite Primes from Xaku to now.

[dry oracle]

Wat Just happened

[restive river]

Same but I kinda wish I did her mission cause the VA in it is a favorite of mine

[fast dew]

I like how the horror of Dagath's story requires you to think

[fast dew]

... did you confess during the argument

[restive river]

Xaku Prime is perfect

[strange plinth]

don't remember, is dagath estimated for a prime this year or next?

[winged flume]

Cressa needs more screen time.

[fast dew]

[dry oracle]

Before I think

[restive river]

YOU CAN DO THAT DURING THE ARGUEMWNT???

[fast dew]

I think its one of them???

[restive river]

Voruna should be this year

[fast dew]

The one before the main one i think

ALL I KNOW ITS A REALLY STUPID TIME TO CONFESS

[winged flume]

https://tenor.com/view/ricolino-scolari-gif-12061360726599077047

[fast dew]

I AINT THAT DUMB SO I NEVER DID IT

[fast dew]

Anyways to explain this

You've been agreeing with her about Albrecht, haven't you?

[winged flume]

Reboot the whole thing. Let Wally laugh, do it for your own psyche.

[fast dew]

... wally laughs when you reset now???

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-shocked-cat-silly-cat-cat-kitten-gif-7414586676150300212

[restive river]

I confessed to her today believing it was the time and also didnt care much cause im going through it rn
She said no and tbh, kinda glad? One my Drifter said she wanted to be a couple with her which. That’s just a lie :/
Two, as much as I like her I’m not sure I vibe with her in that way after getting to know her lol

[winged flume]

I think so? I haven't gotten that far only watch what I've seen from SocraTetris and the DsIEGE

[strange plinth]

yea that dialogue only shows up with Entrati5i, which is set by, you guessed it,

[restive river]

Oh
Oh no

[fast dew]

AHAHAHAH

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[restive river]

Wait really what

[fast dew]

Apparently???

Thats not good.

[restive river]

I wonder why? Maybe he’s mocking us like “haha you couldn’t do what you wanted with them, now do this morally not so great thing!”

[fast dew]

I got it right first try

So i probably wont reset

[winged flume]

https://tenor.com/view/picard-what-there-are4lights-star-trek-tng-gif-11252564

[restive river]

Did you use the kimulacrum

[fast dew]

... no * i say as i lie*

Nah ive only recently been using it

[restive river]

Lmao

[fast dew]

I think for the last... 4? 5? Chats

[restive river]

I don’t do it the first run through and then use it the second run through

The Roundtable spoiled me cause I apparently vibed with them very well and aced them first go

[fast dew]

I have all convos on so it took ages

[restive river]

I love the Triad but I think Lyon’s the only one who really vibes with me
Marie’s friendly but man. She’s kinda difficult

Like as a person not as a gameplay thing lol

[fast dew]

I told you that argument was bad 😭

God I love it

[restive river]

Love the writing
She is
Ugh

[fast dew]

Lyon is definitely the easiest to get along with

[restive river]

Which is funny considering how he starts out lol

[fast dew]

EXACTLY

Like damn

[restive river]

Roathe is just talking to a real Orokin
And Marie is a brick wall

[lean garden]

Yall aint break bricks before?

[restive river]

Both in her religion and in her devotion to Albrecht

[fast dew]

I've eaten a brick. Bits of it

Mm yum fried clay

[restive river]

My attempt to break her walls was using kindness and honesty
Apparently
That ain’t it

[lean garden]

boo, break bricks first

break bricks, eat bricks, shit bricks

[fast dew]

I want a salt lamp so I can lick it lowkey

[lean garden]

Ok goatman

[fast dew]

SORRY

[strange plinth]

you can actually point this out in one of his convos and there is a great response to it

[fast dew]

I CRAVE SODIUM

[restive river]

Bro is oberon

[lean garden]

you tried caressing where the hammer was necessary

but yet a hammer needs to be accurately placed instead of violently swung

[restive river]

Yeah i guess so lol

[fast dew]

Delightful.

[lean garden]

but also her religion isn't something that need to be broken, just her thoughts to albrecht

[fast dew]

Its funny to me that I went full circle with marie

[restive river]

Oh for sure!

[fast dew]

I initially hated her because we all know how nuns are treated, worse now that it's wisp, intentionally or not

Then we met her, and I was like "oh nvm shes really sweet"

Then the argument happened and im back to not liking her

[restive river]

There’s three kinds of wisp players
Those who like Marie as a character
Those who actually like playing Wisp
And those who play Wisp for how she looks

I just like playing her and I like Marie enough

[fast dew]

I like how she looks bcs pretty woman (in the platonic way)

[dark compass]

And people who realized that the only thing they cared about is Wisp Agile animation set

[fast dew]

Me when I play Jade bcs shes genuinely pretty

Everyone always reacts to jt by "how shes pregnant" and it baffles me

Also the next time someone says Jade is "plus sized" Im gonna pull an Albrecht and shoot your best friend.

[dark compass]

Me slamming the table in fear and agony of what happened and I somehow wake up a month earlier

[strange plinth]

-# i wish i could take the idle animation of Agile with the illusion clone thing and put it on Noble because its the only reason i use Agile,,

[dark compass]

I wish Uriel Agile had the extra animations on other frames

Would've been top1 set ever

[fast dew]

Fun fact that agile on equinox does a funny. The clone is one of equinox's alt forms

[dark compass]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-uriel-murmur-gunpoint-gun-gif-16944150267088598477

[fast dew]

What the-

[strange plinth]

Personal Beef between wally and uriel

[dark compass]

Uriel Agile idles have murmur constantly attacking him

[fast dew]

HUH.

[dark compass]

But it doesn't work on any other frame

[fast dew]

What are the lore implications of that

[restive river]

I wonder if this occurs cause of what happened in the old peace rather than being prior to that

[strange plinth]

does the same w/ wukong and his clone
uhh there's another one that has a unique interaction there i think but idr it

[dark compass]

He also vocalizes abilities in void tongue

[restive river]

Does he..?

[fast dew]

You sure thats not Dante?

[dark compass]

Yeah even mentioned on the wiki

[restive river]

Wiki moment

[fast dew]

The wiki needs to be updated

[dark compass]

Huh?

[fast dew]

It always does tbf

[restive river]

It doesn’t really make much sense for him to speak voidtongue unless it’s only due to our crashout

[strange plinth]

definitely does the RAZUL TARAT KANUMMU on his 4th
one of the little guys says voidtongue i believe

[dark compass]

^

[fast dew]

Is the first one void tongue?

[lean garden]

now if DE would just give us translations

[fast dew]

Looks like the sentient language

[lean garden]

none of them are words we know

except... tarat

tarat is a word we know

[fast dew]

Da rat

[lean garden]

if sho is a measure of "more"

then shotarat can be broken into sho and tart

meaning tarat is a word

and the devil blabs void tongue

[dark compass]

Let me record it

[strange plinth]

oh wait there's a hyphen in the devil's triad reveal trailer
RAZUL-TARAT KANUMMU
dunno if that shows up elsewhere

the roathe reveal replaces it with [Eldritch whispers] for some reason like we didn't have it from the first trailer already

[winged flume]

Pasta Pazuul.

[dark compass]

@fast dew @restive river

it definitely sounds similar enough

[pine orchid]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Uriel/Media

they have the voicelines here, if yall like a listen

[dark compass]

I did it all for nothing

Nice to have it though

[brittle siren]

https://youtu.be/UC-usF0TBXo?si=LUDv-bugFsgAXxYV

[brittle siren]

Also, I think all 4 are chanting, Uriel can talk but only in void tongue

[pine orchid]

so if the warframes can have infested hivemind connection with each other ||iirc someone mentioned Harrow being like this, from one of Lyon's kim messages? idk||
has Uriel always been able to chant voidtongue or is it our void influence that let him speak void tongue Xd

[brittle siren]

Kinda funny to think that, if all Tenno were considered “Void demon”, then Wally is literally Void Satan

[brittle siren]

Unsure, but I doubt it was from us

Also, DE deliberately makes Uriel Prime have importance in lore by mentioning that he has a name that Roathe refuses to tell us

I think Uriel Prime has a certain connection to Wally, but how, when, and why, is a mystery for now

Just like Unum and Gara barely have any lore

Hopefully the next small update will have sth to do with this

Also, idk if this has any meaning but Dark Verse and Uriel chanting have the same voice

[restive river]

To Ballas yeah

[brittle siren]

And Helminth

And Wally too

[restive river]

True, though Helminth likes us

[restive river]

He doesn’t call us any variation of demon or devil

[brittle siren]

Though Wally calls us that for mockery

[restive river]

Does he?

[brittle siren]

Oh wait void child not void demon

[restive river]

If you mean Mara Lohk then that’s not what that meand

[brittle siren]

Yeah my mistake

[restive river]

Mara is used by the Cavia and Lotus so it’s unlikely to mean demon/devil

It could be a more complex word that doesn’t have a direct english translation ofc but Mara def isn’t negative and just refers to us

[brittle siren]

nvm it more than "submit to the darkness, void child"

[thin moss]

drifter no more, call me doggo now

[thin moss]

https://tenor.com/view/nosferatu-ellen-hutter-wolf-meme-jjongvillee-gif-8708095632783399513

[tall echo]

no

[west forge]

Wait I know that most the frames you play as in game are copies excluding umbra but what about your starting frame is that a copy too?

[fast dew]

Mhm.

[pale cedar]

Starting frame and Umbra are copies

[west forge]

Why does it take other warframe parts to build chroma but why does xaku not cost any other warframe parts he is literally the frame made from other frames

[pale cedar]

Crafting materials aren't canon so nobody knows

[tacit pagoda]

xakus made of shards of three different unnamed and most likely unknown warframes so

it would be cool if they soft launched new warframes by having xaku parts being their parts as well

[strange turtle]

The other frame parts are just because Chroma was meant to be a big deal

For whatever reason

[west forge]

Huh

[hazy crystal]

I’m just curious. I’ve beaten roathes boss fight 23 times. Am I supposed to get a new text after 21 levels cause I didn’t get one

[strange turtle]

“Strongest warframe”, a bunch of elements etc

It’s kinda like Terraria and other games where you get one ultimate weapon by combining a bunch of others, but way less dramatic or cool or actually meaningful

[west forge]

I see

[brittle siren]

funny that Wally just slide in the chamber when Albrecht put the Cavia out of the void, give them mind so he could talk with them for funsie

stupid question: What is the real reason Albrecht made protoframe?

[strange turtle]

A very good question, actually

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-dexter-morgan-idk-gif-2440520923239485215

We don’t know

We know it’s not just so that we’d have spares in case our own frames where compromised

And the Hex at least where definitely a love/connection thing

But that’s it, pretty much

Aside from knowing that there were other reasons because of how blatantly certain convos signal that opinion being right (+the Cathedral protos existing)

[brittle siren]

also how did this guy make Kalymos sleep on the table

[strange turtle]

Taxidermy

[brittle siren]

what

[opaque zenith]

that's just in the hex quest, you can see there's no sindicate prompt in the computer, which also isn't showning the usual pizza/vhs propagandas

[brittle siren]

ohh

[fast dew]

Albrecht and his CCTV footage???

[brittle siren]

"ha ha Quincy shooting my face again" - def not Albrecht

[pine orchid]

imagine making Kalymos, a giant monster-cat, do anything

[civic gulch]

Did the man in the wall get removed or does he just stop appearing in your ship after a specific quest i havent seen him in like 3 years

[strange turtle]

Nah he’s just rare

You’ve probably accidentally ignored him a few times

[brittle siren]

he appear in my room for everyday since I dating Roathe

and it easy to track him because of the... chair

[thick yacht]

Who is the most powerful tenno

[main crane]

Rell

Bro singlehandedly fought the Indifference for centuries until he went crazy

[thick yacht]

🗿

[restive river]

You could in theory recreate this with a pet bed and Kalymos colored Kavat

[brittle siren]

I can't put anything on it though

[restive river]

Iirc Roathe posits a theory about it to some extent, something about narrowing down who Wally could inhabit or enter through or something?
But that’s just his theory

[restive river]

Some items can be forced in there if you’re stubborn enough

Constrained movement can work actual wonders

No idea if it works for that desk but I snuck the bed into the Duviri couch/bed and the couch in the Backroom

[brittle siren]

those work fine for me too, but that table is like not accessible

[restive river]

Dang
Table didn’t like Kalymos up there

That or that’s just her spot specifically lol

[tall echo]

what's with the reaction?

[still frigate]

the most powerful tenno is me sorry

[tall echo]

nuh uh

the most powerful tenno is whichever player had every focus school 100% completed first after old peace released

including the represent shop

[strong viper]

The most powerful tenno is wally

[zenith kernel]

ive been thinking about something...

did albrecht make his "pale skinned" body or did he take someone elses? like otak's maybe?

[silk atlas]

Either it was after Loid repaired him from the first Void excursion or Albrecht did some more Continuity after that before realizing that he should probably stop doing that. No mention of anyone likeOtak being related to that

[zenith kernel]

im asking since albrecht was always depicted as the usual blue-skinned orokin until 1999.
and there has been no mention to what happened to the original otak, only the necra-otak.

so did he enter the bell with his old or new body?

[fast dew]

Or the most tame option, Refacia kits. I think that's the spelling

[silk atlas]

🤷

He just had a body that was ruined and then maybe he did Continuity or edited it between then

[fast dew]

Ehh, the idea of the skin being blasted and healing over as fresh skin has kinda been disproven now. ||Roathe actively does not recognise the white version||

But, interestingly, ||remembers the voice as being the same||

[silk atlas]

Also we don't know what happened with a lot of Cephalons before they were turned.

[fast dew]

Drusus still has a body somewhere

[brittle siren]

So this is the only Tuvul voice in the game https://fixupx.com/shieldgating/status/2008143109381874101?s=46&t=5XSoAshUqsO-YG_gq2tB3Q

Warframe Archival (@shieldgating)

Executor Tuvul's logs to the Zariman Ten-Zero

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[fast dew]

Also lowkey I kinda just realised that unless Albrecht can copy a brain 1:1 including all its mannerisms, then the necraloid was a glassed clone of loid theory never really makes sense

[brittle siren]

I mean Ballas did copy Margulis' mind into Natah

[silk atlas]

One of the KIMS mentions that you can just make a Cephalon non-destructively.

[fast dew]

Oh and Albrecht has void scarring in his portrait lel

[brittle siren]

Oh show me show me

[fast dew]

Mm look at those blue scars

Over the eyes

You know, where he got blinded

By the void

[zenith kernel]

exactly this, what happened to otak if both son and daughter mention them

[fast dew]

Otak is a little broken as a cephalon iirc

Necraloid does seem to he his own thing

||"Necralized" as mother puts it.||

Oh, also, Otak was an Archimedian

[silk atlas]

Roathe Rank2Convo5

[zenith kernel]

im asking about the original otak, not the necra version

[fast dew]

Specifically responsible for the research behind argon crystals

[fast dew]

I mean. Iirc he is only... like otak in that form

He was just a normal dude

[brittle siren]

https://fixupx.com/shieldgating/status/2008126287953674285?s=46&t=5XSoAshUqsO-YG_gq2tB3Q

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[fast dew]

Likely came to the entrati family due to his dealings with the void, and the entrati family being the void researchers...

[silk atlas]

CAN be done non-destructively. Don't remember hearing anything about what Otak would've done to be Cephalon'd in the first place, so we wouldn't know if it was punitive then

[fast dew]

Argon crystals. Gotta love em.

[loud oriole]

still yet to find a Ziploc bag that stops them from vanishing

[fast dew]

Also, Otak... has argon crystals behind him

That display, he has one

[fast dew]

Can't you get argon crystals from isovaults? So they've stabilised it somehow

They just dont wanna tell us

[zenith kernel]

i'll guess i'll just take albrecht taking otaks body as a headcannon until proven otherwise

[fast dew]

Ehh, bad idea

Theres a whole chance Albrecht wasn't even there

especially if my theory on when Albrecht actually left is true

[loud oriole]

I mean isn't the sanctum like the doormat to the void? i could see any gathered there and held there will persist unless taken out of the sanctum

[fast dew]

Isovaults aren't in the sanctum, just regular ol deimos

[loud oriole]

oh, huh dunno then

idk why drifter doesn't just start stockpiling reserves of argon crystals in duviri

[fast dew]

||Albrecht gave everyone a tablet saying he was letting himself die or whatever when he left, along with the interpretation that he tried to commit suicide by jumping into the void (to only land in duviri), and Mother's obsession with finding him in the void, all makes me think he actually left thr family way earlier than when he did for the last trip to 1999||

[zenith kernel]

is it because it isnt the "right" void?

[zenith kernel]

yes and he faked his death there also, according to isle weaver and the grave underneath the sorrow lady's house

[fast dew]

Oh no its not a fake his death situation, its a respect thing iirc

[zenith kernel]

maybe

[fast dew]

Him going "i must atone for what I had done through my own blood" and immediately cutting to duviri was strange

[drowsy saddle]

Albrecht's got plans within plans, it makes my head spin

[loud oriole]

Albrecht '2 steps ahead' Entrati

[drowsy saddle]

Also with Old Peace, even the slightest gap between events could be literally anything

[loud oriole]

-# but the indifference is always 3 steps ahead

[drowsy saddle]

DE is not afraid of dropping trvth nvkes on us at any point

[fast dew]

Albrecht "I tried to kill myself and my daughter's book made it worse" Entrati

[zenith kernel]

i wonder if entrati went to xx99 after duviri or after 1999 because the timelines a little blurry

[drowsy saddle]

Albrecht "Doomed Yaoi" Entrati

[fast dew]

After the initial creation of the hex, but before his permanent stay in 1999

[drowsy saddle]

Blud picks the weirdest time to go on a sabbatical

[pale cedar]

3 steps ahead didn't save those fingers

[zenith kernel]

i think he might have made a small pitstop in the perita timeline too because of roathe

[fast dew]

Thats only the creation of the triad, not his time in the church

I feel as if that was before the hex at all

He goes from wet rat to wet rat with a cause between duviri and the hex

[loud oriole]

never know, indifference might've taken 3 steps closer to Albrecht during his incident and subsequently got a finger cut off when Albrecht dipped out lol

had he only taken 2 steps warframe would have never existed

[zenith kernel]

was "creating" the tenno wallys attempt killing entrati?

[strange turtle]

Since the Duviri is it’s own sort of “pocket” in the Void they’d probably still decay, just maybe a at a slower rate

[loud oriole]

-# no longer 23h, duviri argon decay in 26h

[zenith kernel]

if i think about it more, then albrecht must have gone to xx99 first for 3 years
went back to the future to inject roathe and remove his memories
go back to xx99 to dump roathe on lyon and marie
then go to 1999, spread the techrot, and then infect people with helminth
before dissapearing once more

grandpa needs to sit down

[fast dew]

There's major time differences between the two times. Iirc roathe mentions how he was in xx99 for a short time, while hundreds of years passed in current day

[dry oracle]

Late reply I was being respectful and she hit me with "I have faith in you" and fall in to her trap

[burnt light]

Voruna lore, did they had like four pets in their past?

[silk atlas]

Yeah the four heads are her wolves

[burnt light]

Okay, just imagined her proto frame version having four wolf like pets if we meet them

[tall echo]

Proto is unlikely to happen bc it'd be hard to implement

[restive river]

How

That’s quitter talk

[tall echo]

Our voruna is a post-collapse design, any proto would have to be pre-collapse

[restive river]

Eh Albrecht can always find a way

They could also do what was just suggested and have them appear as companions around her instead

[burnt light]

Yea can see them as companions around her that just walk around and do stuff

[tall echo]

hands him present voruna strain vial
"Give me a dommy mommy wolf girl gf"
Albrecht: loads lex with utter disgust

[burnt light]

Weren’t the other proto frames just earlier versions as well?

[restive river]

Wdym

[tall echo]

Of designs that haven't changed

[stone fable]

i actually have question... what happened in drifter timeline? internet told me that drifter wasnt save from zariman so what warframes there are dead?

[tall echo]

Nothing specific is known

[restive river]

Since the split was in the void Drifter’s timeline likely doesn’t even exist

[tall echo]

4 kubrow companions, very balanced

[restive river]

Scrap
I’m not saying they change how her kit works to accolade a cosmetic

Literally have it be cosmetic campions that follow her and activate the abilities visually

Or
Albrecht gets the post naga drums variant

[stone fable]

i find out that drifter timeline just.. connect with tenno timeline so like... his world is good now? or something?

[restive river]

He has time travel this
Is not that hard lol

[tall echo]

Voruna is in my top 5 frames (which makes me conflicted bc of ashlight) but I struggle to logically make a proto work

[restive river]

Drifter and Operator were the exact same person, then the deal happened which was in the void
Operator was saved and left the void, entering back into their own universe
Drifter was not saved and there is no evidence that their version of the Origin System “survived”

[restive river]

I just gave you two easy options

Be creative, find a solution.

[stone fable]

i wonder does that what we are seeing at protoframes its entire body? like they cannot take off that? its just connect with body?

[restive river]

Yes it’s connected to their body

They are literally becoming the frames

The Sacrifice explains that Warframes are human, we are witnessing a slowed version of that process with the Protoframes
Said process is even slower via transference and reset with the loops

Though the timeline does continue and all protoframes once outside of the loop will eventually succumb to the helminth strain

[tall echo]

Reminder that the protos are likely in constant agonizing pain due to the transformation not being stopped, just slowed