gameplay-discussion

[wraith crag]

which one?

[blissful scroll]

the disruption specific enemy

[wraith crag]

never heard of it

[blissful scroll]

so u have never done disruption before?

kinda crazy ngl

[wraith crag]

no, i did that but i don't remember seeing any specific enemies

[hidden sapphire]

The demolyst?

[wraith crag]

i mean ngl
it's just a red icon being covered in a bunch of number and flashbang then disappear
i'm not going to see any of its design

[drifting fern]

Does profit taker drop a lot of toroids? And can it be done on steelpath?

[wraith crag]

the only disruption boss i remember is the necramech
they are big and chunky enough to not die in 5s

[blissful scroll]

yeah i dont deal dmg to that now

its around level 2k and its too tanky lol

[wraith crag]

time to get another build, i guess

[blissful scroll]

like what lol

[wraith crag]

i feel like the most consistent way to get big number now is like
melee frame
brain off
hold E
win

proof: kullervo, valkyr

[blissful scroll]

i prefer not being locked

[fair flame]

the new emote makes it looks like your warframe got hung

[wraith crag]

then keep your current build and try harder, i guess
maybe faction mod and stuff

[wraith crag]

on one hand: 'did that frame just suicide?'
on the other hand: legs

[mild cypress]

🤔

[worthy pasture]

man there are so many cool frames

[fair flame]

Feet for the feet famers

[fair flame]

64 frames and counting

[worthy pasture]

Sevagoth looks so cool, i got a prime part for him for a void relic

[subtle forge]

i was thinking of picking up caliban

[wraith crag]

sevagoth is pretty strong
and he's also a goth so that's a plus

[worthy pasture]

just passively aura farms by default

but i have a feeling since the void is mentioned in his description, that's where ill get his parts / materials to craft them

[restive warren]

...

[wraith crag]

his bp?
void relics that has his parts
the materials are all over the place tho

[worthy pasture]

What are the main differences between Prime and normal frames?

[wraith crag]

extra stat and cooler design

[worthy pasture]

got it bet

[mild cypress]

helllnawww

[polar smelt]

I hate explaining tbh

[blissful scroll]

new best endo farm question mark

[vital skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/mrbeast-ytpmv-rap-battle-squid-game-squid-game-vs-mrbeast-gif-25491394

[blissful scroll]

5 lua lens is kinda good no?

[vital skiff]

Yesnt

Ask for 6700000000000p GA

[mild cypress]

😭

[blissful scroll]

okay guys apparnetly lua lens is useless

[vital skiff]

WuTangRefund

[mild cypress]

do they got rizz?

[mild cypress]

🔥

[pure gulch]

lua lens isn't useless, its the fastest focus gain!

[wraith crag]

Focus gain is capped anyway

So like you can now hit the cap even faster than it is
Which is not really a plus

[vital skiff]

Mostly for tauron strike

[blissful scroll]

i need better weapons

[vital skiff]

Get stug

Top 1 warframe weapon

[blissful scroll]

frfr

i do need better stuff tho, i need me weapons to deal mre dmg

[wraith crag]

Or just use laetum
It's basic but damage is damage

[brittle swan]

Watch the stug get the same glow up as Torid when it gets the incarnon

From one of the worst to one of the best

[blissful scroll]

i need to farm that

[wraith crag]

Time to hoard stug riven and pray

[vital skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-logres-fgo-artoria-saber-saber-fate-gif-5046053849801594771

[wraith crag]

Shit game jumpscare

[blissful scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-tau-naramon-tauron-ultimate-gif-5491768749526176420

[brittle swan]

What did naramon do again

[wraith crag]

More combo

[vital skiff]

Nothing much

[blissful scroll]

i ihnk they are asking about teh weapon

[wraith crag]

More combo
More melee buff
That's about it

[vital skiff]

Sustain combo by drain 5 count each

Instead of all

[brittle swan]

Ah so the shitty one

[wraith crag]

It's shit until you need to run 500m to the next area and have to build combo again unless you stop half way to hit something

[blissful scroll]

wait does nekros help with the tauron stri ke

[obsidian aspen]

I don't see why he would

[blissful scroll]

like farming the things

cant find anything in wiki

[obsidian aspen]

Do you mean Perita materials?

If so then yes, at least the ones dropped by enemies

[lofty garden]

No

[vast totem]

I do not probably. Lemme see

[lofty garden]

The materials you get from the boss and from each challenge/each SP commandered warframe are not impacted by any boosters.

[blissful scroll]

so this is gonna take a while ugh

[obsidian aspen]

"at least the ones dropped by enemies"

[pure gulch]

if you mean the tauron strike mats then no nekros doesn't help

[tidal plover]

Thanks

[lofty garden]

Takes ~40hrs for all five.

[obsidian aspen]

oh wait you don't use those mats to buy the Artifacts, I'm dumb

[wraith crag]

Yeah, it's one of the more annoying things to farm
Kinda wish we can just skip to the boss and ignore the foreplay

[obsidian aspen]

well there's the Ascares dropped by commandeered primes out in the field

[pure gulch]

doing SP slightly speeds it up because commandeered prime drops but other than that its "fixed" drops

[vital skiff]

The most boring mode

[wraith crag]

It's fine at first but then you need to do a lot to farm
And then 12m waiting becomes a pain in the ass

[lofty garden]

If you can generate 18 per run, and your runs are ~13min from start to start, you are looking at 6.5hrs for every 3x180 mats (you need roughly 180 of each mats per tauron strike and focus node upgrades)

So maybe 23-30hrs. 40's probably a bit much unless you run public or your mats/run is significantly below 18. Solo is the fastest way to run Perita Rebellion because the challenges each require far less to complete.

[vast totem]

I do not no, sorry

[tidal plover]

All gucci.

[polar smelt]

Someone hold my hands

[lofty garden]

Cooties!

[blissful scroll]

i gotta build my saryn

[lofty garden]

(build five)

[glossy pond]

What mods should I slap on equinox? Or more like what should i focus on?

[glossy pond]

Rookie numbers

[blissful scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/xowillow-ok-gif-25585293

[glossy pond]

I need 😔

[lofty garden]

Well, ideally six Prime, one for regular use, five for Focus farming, but one Prime and five regular would be fine.

[blissful scroll]

is saryn good aside from kuva sobek?

[glossy pond]

I really want to have at leas 10 regular rhinos and 10 primes at some point 😂

Don't ask why and don't ask what for because I don't know either

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-excalibur-prime-tennocon-tennocon-2025-warframe-focus-gif-1035887822129236002

[glossy pond]

I need to farm argons 😔

[fair flame]

I'm sorry but all of your jokes ArGon!

[glossy pond]

Actually I only need 2

[glossy pond]

Get out! 👉 🚪

This joke was as bad as my Follie looks

[fair flame]

I'm sorry but if I told jokes about the infested I fear they might be "Contagious"

[glossy pond]

😭 someone stop that person

[lofty garden]

I want to see the sword slice a Galleon tile in half and we all go flying off into space 🙂

[pure gulch]

ordis type joke

[glossy pond]

It's even worse than the joke Ordis makes

[fair flame]

Return c c c-overedin blood! Safe and sound operator

[glossy pond]

Time to use that tranquliser rifle on you

[blissful scroll]

got 17

[fair flame]

Jokes on you act actually uses rapid resilience

[glossy pond]

Then i will put you down using the american way 😭

It's for your own good. You will ruin your reputation before you'll know it

[fair flame]

Don't you mean the PETA way?

[glossy pond]

No, I am not that inhumane

[uneven python]

average hound connoisseur

[glossy pond]

I want to farm argon but I cannot force myself to do so

Even tho i need just two 😔

[glossy pond]

Any other bad joke? 🔫 Keep in mind I am holding you at gunpoint😂

With my american powered tranq darts

[static charm]

is server connects trash right now or something. XD i got stuck in the eternal loading screen for a mission so i had to alt f4 out of it D:

[restive warren]

Hyekka 🤣

[wispy verge]

guys...

[restive warren]

Look at it, it's so happy

This is fine

[wispy verge]

i got it fixed but omg it was hilarious

[mild cypress]

IRON MAN???

[lofty garden]

eternal loading screen could be the host

[worthy pasture]

just reading through the warframe list atm, is Koumei literally just the gambler frame??

[lofty garden]

well, game of chance frame

[lost pine]

Was thinking about new wf’s. Do we have a raving lunatic wf already?

[lofty garden]

megan roaring in an audio recording booth wasn’t enough?

follie honks a clown nose or old time car horn

[fair flame]

What about this one.

[kind tiger]

That’s… basically running through Hepit with a Xaku built for range just once

[glossy pond]

Dont have any of this

The only one is limbo but lv 7 😂

[fair flame]

You could do isolation vaults as the loot in the vault room can drop them

[glossy pond]

Could do

[final vector]

can primary blight work on the kuva grattler?

or is it a hinderance

[fair flame]

It can work it just requires more effort and it outside buffs. Companions can luckily triger it's buffs

[lavish herald]

why do wukongs do little to no damage to SP Roathe

[blissful scroll]

yay or?

[glossy pond]

Equinox is female but looks like twig boy 😂

[lavish herald]

?

[glossy pond]

Nothing. Don't worry abot me and my messages 👍

[near tulip]

Majestic star is the only important one here, prefer lex over boltor but that's just a preference

[blissful scroll]

hmm i see

[trim bobcat]

Magister incarnon is for slam players who drool

[trim bobcat]

Play Lex like a chad

[daring vortex]

Msgistar and lex are insane

But if you prefer boltor it's fine

[pliant trench]

let me copy this day quote tq

[glossy pond]

MR 7 hell yeah 🙏

[pliant trench]

her early release theme is night female and day is male version, like two gender in one body, then it got scratch - so their got as yin and yang

[silver hazel]

Hey is there a subsume that knocks enemies down in a large area/radius?

[willow bluff]

There's an arcane

[pliant trench]

thermal sunder or pull or airburst

[near tulip]

Caliban? Idk if that counts as knockdown

Larva too

[silver hazel]

I'm wondering because of this line on Koumei's wiki about her threads

seems like it might be fun

[near tulip]

Oh

[kind heath]

Hello! I just want to ask if I do 3rd or 4th of ash ability, does it trigger coda bassocyst passive? Because it’s considered finisher/mercy afaik. Please correct me, Thanks a lot!

[near tulip]

All the goryping abilities lovisa mentioned ragdoll

[pliant trench]

it really not actually, plus to proc this via 1st skill u either need to subsume 2nd or 3rd skill

just use epitaph with secondary encumber lol

[silver hazel]

yeah, this would def just be a mess around setup (I already have a lvl cap setup for her that I love lol)

[blissful scroll]

did argon shards go extinct or something?

i did 2 void missions fully clear , first one got 1 drop second got 2 drops

[near tulip]

Rng tbh

[blissful scroll]

bwah no one is opening vo runa prime blueprint relics crazy

[near tulip]

I have a bunch if you still need it tonight

Gonna be hella late tho, stuck at LAX

[blissful scroll]

F

[blissful scroll]

that works

[steep plank]

if the crits aint red you deserve to be dead

yeah im stealing this

[pulsar tree]

any1 bored as a mf can play along with me im kinda lost rn in the game and bored to play by myself

[steep plank]

i would but im at work

[pliant trench]

finally found my style in koumei

had to sacrifice retriever to use nautilus

phouge

[fair flame]

Zephyr airburst

[silver hazel]

gonna try that too

just tried it with pull and that is a WEIRD interaction

[fair flame]

Airburst is both a push and a pull

[silver hazel]

it basically insta kills 185 corrupted heavy gunners

[polar smelt]

Welp i am soaking wet

[lost pine]

Okay this is “pretty straaange”. Playing ivara prime. Never happened before. All of a sudden was having these microsecond lag hiccups. Just enough to break your rhythm. Wanna know how I fixed it? Changed appearance colors.

[dusty wave]

so I'm playing my main quest, and I wanna play Themisto next, AFAIK the boss should've been Alad V, but instead it shows Phorid because of... an invasion? should I play vs Phoid now or wait till invasion is over and play against Alad V?

[polar smelt]

Which warframe you have

[dusty wave]

Mag[30] I think

[polar smelt]

If you want you can just use any warframe really or. Maybe be a normal person… AND GOOG-…. Im jokinh. if your doing a boss fight with alvad V or whatever it is you can just google it its not really hard (for me it was)

[pliant trench]

if you want the reward invasion drop, if not u can pick 2nd option do fight salad v

fyi invasion mission need u to do 3 times to receive it reward

[dusty wave]

oh i didn't know i can choose!!!

[quasi ginkgo]

Not all invasions will let you though btw. You can't side with Infested in invasions.

If you do 3 missions for the Corpus in the same mission node, you'll get a fieldron.
If you do 3 missions for the Grineer in the same mission node, you'll get a detonite.
Though, if you say, did 3 Corpus missions, then in that same mission try to do Grineer missions, it'll just remove 1 from your corpus counter until it's 0, then add to grineer.

You can't get both sides' rewards at the same time, you have to go for just one side

[pliant trench]

he meant choose doing invasion mission or normal mission in that node, but yea this info is nice to know

[quasi ginkgo]

Ah right

[polar smelt]

My mother told me i am a simp

[lost pine]

My mom wouldn’t know what a simp is.

[pliant trench]

i had to see ur pfp, now i gotta go bleach my eyes and erase memories of a min ago

[lost pine]

You don’t like orcs?

[quasi ginkgo]

Warframe should get orcs

[pliant trench]

the game list

[molten ermine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1502441769965453382/1507453388059578449/image.png?ex=6a11f4de&is=6a10a35e&hm=b3d4590442b9fcf14539e872d28c705a88fa57e3b83786455a489b161ec83c6a&

[lost pine]

Breeders?

[pliant trench]

brb i making my mind eraser device in a minute

[lost pine]

Too bad I can’t use my meru emotes here.

[hushed steppe]

hey what is some way of making some plat?

[lost pine]

Selling stuff people want. Afaik that’s the only way.

[polar smelt]

I told my mom, "Mom, I have a crush on this buffoon. He voice acts the fish, the guy from Baldur's Gate, and a guy named Viktor." She side-eyed me with a smirk, and I ran back inside the house, totally embarrassed.

[worthy pasture]

it has taken me way too long to realise that volt's 2nd ability also increases my attack speed with melee weapons

althought it doesnt directly say that, so im not sure why it is, but im definitely not complaining

[final vector]

I got a idea for some of my other warframes like have a corpus themed voruna, and maybe a infested themed protea

Since I’m doing a kuva/grineer themed mirage

[sacred reef]

Just seen this on the TikTok lmao. Wow

[restive warren]

Ok that made me cackle louder than it should've

Like full blown evil cackle

[worthy pasture]

mane.

https://tenor.com/view/tbvnks-twitch-scream-funny-yell-gif-4613857035482773198

[restive warren]

Blizzard won't let it die tho

.. Well not actively

[fair flame]

another game has died before TF2 has been clamed by the reaper

[daring parrot]

I hate how people will just talk so much shit about a game that they don't enjoy just because it's not for them.

[final vector]

Nobody can stop the insanity that game causes

[daring parrot]

Except valve

[polar smelt]

I just posted it on a other account

[sacred reef]

To soon Tenno let them grieve

[polar smelt]

Its on tik tack

I can smell them suffering even more … MWAHHHA MWHHH

[daring parrot]

:|

Lame

[near tulip]

Outlived two whole destinies lol

[daring parrot]

Who cares man 😭

Randomly going around making fun of games dying that people enjoyed just because they werent for you is genuinely moronic behavior. I wasn't even a big destiny player but I can see what that game meant to people among other things

[dusty wave]

when are PvPs active?

[long estuary]

Anyone have trouble with a little gitters in gameplay playing one Xbox ?

[daring parrot]

Try to find the conclave discord server bc they are basically the only people who play pvp

[dusty wave]

is that like a specific server or...?

[long estuary]

*new player **

[daring parrot]

Yeah, idk the invite or name of it but I'm sure if yiu just looked up conclave discord warframe on google/reddit you would find it

[fair flame]

First Person Warframe

[warm monolith]

How

[restive warren]

Are you inhaling the bow or something

[daring parrot]

I wish we had custom camera offset sliders 😭

[fair flame]

cam bug i found on that map

[warm monolith]

Sonion

[polar smelt]

Pvp is on star chart

Welp im screwed i made quincy a woman

And i put Christmas wreath in their hair

I gave him cute greyish jacket

Little sneak peak for yall

[quasi ginkgo]

Yeah, it's rampant in all gaming communities. People get a sense of tribalism. You either like one game and no others in its genre or you're a fake fan type stuff, etc

These days I just accept it's easier to ignore + block people than bother engaging in the argument

[daring parrot]

So stupid, everyone just flocks to hate because they don't enjoy a game and they see the extreme version of their own opinion.

[polar smelt]

In all do respect i will aay this in a nicer way to you

HERE. You go a innocent way to say to people think

[quasi ginkgo]

Yep. Same reason why bad news sells more than good news, the drama of it

[polar smelt]

Im the most childish person ever

[coarse basin]

and also, since when did warframe players care this much about destiny

no need to shit on it when its dead, its not like it affects us much

[quasi ginkgo]

Destiny is a game in a similar genre, so a lot of folk who know literally nothing about it will insult it, because of the us vs them mentality. Both games existed for ages side by side without any issue, anyway. The people making fun of it don't care, they just see an easy target for vitriol so they can make jokes at its expense to try and look cool, you know, like a school bully insulting people constantly.

Warframe's gotten a lot of inspiration from other games and other games have gotten inspiration from Warframe. As far as I'm concerned, it's just more things to enjoy, tbh.

[restive warren]

It's more a problem when people stop talking about it, if you talk about something it means you care enough to let it live rent free. And I'm sorry bug gaming industry been going down the greed slope in hardcore mode recently, so you'll just have to suck it up.

You can start worrying when people stop caring

Which means no more complaints, it's just "Ah yes, it's there"

[restive warren]

Not always that way

People complain more about the stuff they care about vs the stuff they don't

[coarse basin]

we're warframe players, our whole thing is a kind and respectful community, what does it show to others when people go around going HAHAHAHAHA OTHER GAME DIED

[quasi ginkgo]

When I make a statement I can't account for every single outlier and alternate case

[restive warren]

Game dead has been a troll comment, I can't take that stuff seriously anymore

[polar smelt]

Dang why you guys arguijg

[daring parrot]

I'm talking about people going around to every single game they don't like and dont play and publicly making fun of the player counts or lack up updates or the player base for enjoying the game in general

[restive warren]

I'm not

[restive warren]

Oh those people? those are troll! Don't feed the troll

[daring parrot]

Seems like warframe players love doing that rn with destiny

[restive warren]

Thought sometime their comment is out to lunch that you can't help but comment reply back

[polar smelt]

"Look, I’m the only one allowed to be mad here. If I wanted to watch a married couple bicker, I’d invite my parents to the server. Pack it up!" 😂

[quasi ginkgo]

My mental health survival guide for engaging with gaming communities is to ignore anyone who tells you how to play the game, don't touch anything related to minmaxxing and viability and tierlists, and to know when someone isn't worth having a debate with tbh

Every gaming community is going to have bad actors, straight up rude and childish people, and folk who make problems for themselves

[restive warren]

Idk who you think is arguing here LMAO

My perspective is Rezer said something, I said something back

[quasi ginkgo]

I've been enjoying seeing some posts on Reddit and Bluesky where people are relating Warframes to Destiny characters and guns to their equivalents etc. Makes it easier to recommend stuff to players moving to Warframe from Destiny

[quasi ginkgo]

Ye sry I've had a rough day so I'm kinda just talking at people rather than engaging in conversation lol

[restive warren]

That's very fair

[near tulip]

Man, where's the shitting that keeps getting mentioned

I just saw one meme image

[quasi ginkgo]

I hope players who decide to try WF after Destiny have a good transition, I'll need to start saving resources to send to players

[lavish herald]

?

[daring parrot]

!

[lavish herald]

congrats for not ignoring that player ig

[wind crest]

Hello je chercher des fr avec qui jouer

[keen lintel]

Need a Warframe competitor gotta have DE at their toes so we keep getting better stuff

[keen lintel]

YES

[quasi ginkgo]

This is true. All games need competitors that can stay alive and compete or the devs get complacent, and have less incentive to be exceptional. Just look at Dead by Daylight

[near tulip]

Isn't marathon a looter shooter?

[daring parrot]

Extraction shooter

[near tulip]

Eh. Seems to be the next live service trend ever since helldivers took off

[daring parrot]

Thats different

Extraction shooter like EFT and hunt showdown

It's pvpve

[restive warren]

TFD exist, Destiny still exist

Anthem is I think dedge?

I'm pretty sure it's deadge

[lofty garden]

Anthem can no longer be played.

[restive warren]

Oh well dedge it is

[lofty garden]

I was there when it was shut down. Bought a PS5 copy on disc. 🙂

[restive warren]

But yes there's TFD and Destiny just still whooping around

[quasi ginkgo]

There was even a couple of Warframe images with Hildryn and Anthem characters flying together, I found that cute

[lofty garden]

Destiny hasn't been a live service for years. Destiny 2 receives its final live service update June 9.

[restive warren]

TFD is trying very hard to stay relevant but not having a great time

[vagrant tapir]

As bad as anthem was it didnt deserve to be lost to time like that. really hope that stop killing games thing stops us losing stuff like that cus i always planned to play anthem despite everything about it

[restive warren]

Maybe they'll do a Destiny 3

[quasi ginkgo]

I misremembered, it was Chroma.

[restive warren]

You can stay thank you to EA.

[vagrant tapir]

I can also say a big thank you to ubisoft for stealing away my copy of the crew i payed for and was still playing right up till it was stolen away

[lofty garden]

Lego 2K racer was shut down.

That was this week.

[restive warren]

Hum

[vagrant tapir]

I thought that was still up ?

[restive warren]

Not anymore

[vagrant tapir]

rly gone as of this week? dam

only just got that free on twitch a few weeks ago

[restive warren]

Did they confirmed or

Said there would be a 3th one or

Yeah then we'll have just TFD has a sad excuse for a competitor

Maybe they'd have a chance if they kept their OG dev team but as is? Not looking good so far.

[keen lintel]

TFD exists in a corner taking up 5% of the playerbase. Hard to say it’s a competitor but they made DE make Omni formas so there’s that.
Destiny will soon fade away

[lofty garden]

All the reporting is that there are no plans for D3 at this time. Paul Tassi and Jason Schreier have both talked with their contacts at the studio, both say the same thing.

[restive warren]

Actually the Weakpoint mods and the omni forma but yes.

[lofty garden]

Some will move to Marathon, the rest will probably be laid off. A D3 would take a ~1k team.

[restive warren]

Except TFD unfortunately do Weakpoint better :(

[vagrant tapir]

Nope destiny is just being put into matenence and its kidna the fault of bunjie careing more about marathon a game that will also probs go the same way since it had a lower playercount than d2. ik people hate when people point out player counts but it is true if bunjie didnt think it was worth keep up with destiny updates when it struggled keeping 15k active players daly then they for sure arnt gonna keep updating marathon when it cant keep above 10k

I gave up with destiny years ago but i still stand by it deserved soo much better than whats just happened

[restive warren]

I mean all Loot extraction pvepvp game just die off at some point due to people having hacking/cheat as hobby

[lofty garden]

We have no idea what is happening with gummybears, other than those people moved to their own studio a year or so ago.

[vagrant tapir]

Its a oversaturated genra. like some people might enjoy it but a few thusend people isnt enough to keep the lights on when it comes to live service games

[restive warren]

That too yeah

It pops off a lot, then you get more and more hacker and then it dies off on top of what you said.

[vagrant tapir]

Again ik alot of people like to argue player count dosnt matter but it really does when it comes to live service games. not so much for single player games but they dont have to keep servers up or keep making updates

[restive warren]

The speed at which that happen depends on how efficient (or not) the anti-cheat is.

[lofty garden]

And then there's Valorant 🙂

[restive warren]

It's a Yes/no in truth. Depends how much people yes, but depends also how much people spend in those games. If the whale community is large enough, they'll keep the server running for a while longer than they probably should.

[lofty garden]

"What do you mean, you're enforcing memory management on my PC??

[restive warren]

It's all about the greed at the end of the day

[vagrant tapir]

honestly i think live service games should die out at this point. still enjoy my warframe and a few others but its clear people just dont care as much as they once did. they want good indi games rather than games that are designed to be like 2nd jobs

[lofty garden]

they want live service games that don't feel like second jobs, but that's anathema to shareholders.

[keen lintel]

Tbh I hope the game gets better. I am a gooner by heart and play everyday but currently content is dry and their content release cycle is way slower than releasing cosmetics

[lofty garden]

How the C-suite at DE walks that fine line with Tencent, I have no idea.

[vagrant tapir]

Kinda why i think its important when people are negative about games like highguard cus the message needs to be sent that thats just not what people want and not what companys should be spending millions if not billions on.

[restive warren]

Cosmetics bring them money with their Fomo skin "Buy or it's gone". Updates? It's just there to make people come back so people buy skins.

You can see the pattern more clearly now

It's discouraging.

[smoky glacier]

I can't remember, is overguard affected by adaptation?

[vagrant tapir]

Really glad wf handles fomo in the best way

everything comes back around eventuly

[quasi ginkgo]

Remember Concord?

[restive warren]

It had potential, I guess my mistake was to trust Nexon

[vagrant tapir]

u mean my door stop ?

[spare bane]

No

[keen lintel]

Ye. And then there is DE releasing like 3-4 skins every quarter, if even 😭 meanwhile TFD flushing out 20

[restive warren]

Forgot it existed until you brought it up

[vagrant tapir]

Had to buy that when i heard it was shutting down just for the lols XD

Ill done one worse than that remember hyper scape ?

[restive warren]

I feel like I should know but there's only air when the memory should be

[fickle comet]

How do I unlock the hades mission on pluto

[quasi ginkgo]

There's a lot of failed games out there but it mostly boils down to games being made purely to capitalise on a popular thing

[vagrant tapir]

Not suprised it was ubisofs failed battle royal game.

[restive warren]

Ah yes Nostalgia riding

[quasi ginkgo]

There's some games that feel more like a product than a passion project

[keen lintel]

The assassination? U need to hack the Ambulas in corpus missions.

Don’t bother. Just run an alert mission. It won’t use your keys

As for Trinity, get her from circuit

[lofty garden]

Ambulas will airdrop from a dropship in outdoor ice planet Corpus missions. Disable it, hack it, and it gives you animo beacons you can use to access Hades, Pluto.

[restive warren]

animo 🥓

Change my mind, you won't I'm hungry

[quasi ginkgo]

Occasionally on the outdoor missions on Pluto, Ambulus will be spawned via dropship. I notice it happens most often on Defense, so I'm not 100% sure where else it spawns. When you kill it, it'll drop Animo Nav Beacons or something like that, and having a bunch lets you run the Assassination

[restive warren]

You can get them in exterminate too but

Specific room (tileset)

And you need to patient too

[lofty garden]

Cerberus, Pluto was a good way to farm the beacons. It's a fairly low level Interception mission and the drop ship shows up every few rounds.

[quasi ginkgo]

It might just be because Defense with that huge open area tileset is the one almost always selected for void fissures

[keen lintel]

Its almost as bad as Mesa grind

Just get them from Circuit

[restive warren]

Interception/Defense Tileset just more trustworthy

[lofty garden]

I think Mesa's worse. Too many farts, too much of a pain to get him to take off the collar.

[restive warren]

You're guaranteed to be outside to be fair

[vagrant tapir]

worst 2 grinds in the game if u ask me.
hyildrin
ivara

like honeslty just spend the plat

[lofty garden]

Hades, Pluto shows up very often in Sortie.

[keen lintel]

Atleast Ivara grind got improved. So Citrine takes that spot now

[quasi ginkgo]

I still don't know how Mutalist Alad V and Lech Kril work tbh. Specifically how to trigger their attacks that make them vulnerable.

[vagrant tapir]

I mean atleast citrine is still a deffence mission instead of spy

tedius yes but atleast not spy

[quasi ginkgo]

I enjoy the new DE philosophy of having pity systems for almost everything

[vagrant tapir]

Infact no worst thing u can grind in the game is the 1 weapon i still to this day dont have that weapon "cant remember what it is" that has a insane low chance to drop from railjack missions

[restive warren]

It is very nice to have as a backup option

[lofty garden]

Mutalist Alad V, I use Loki and his Decoy. Kril, you have to stand just far enough away that he uses his hammer, but not too far that he uses his gun, or too close that he swings the hammer sideways.

[restive warren]

I think I would've still been farming Follie without it

[keen lintel]

A 27.5 minute grind rotation for a chance at a part. Vs a 3-5 minute Spy mission for a chance at a part

[restive warren]

RNG told me to go touch grass

[quasi ginkgo]

Ambassador?

[restive warren]

You can't make me

[near tulip]

I'll never forgive how they hollowed out and killed dfo

[quasi ginkgo]

That got fixed to be a reward on every part of the rotation iirc

[vagrant tapir]

I mean atleast u have pitty currency so u are guaranteed to get it after so many runs

[keen lintel]

Hespar? I have the parts. Ready to sell for 300p it’s my retirement fund

[quasi ginkgo]

I think the most boring grind in the game, but not necessarily the most time consuming one, is the Tome mods

[vagrant tapir]

Cant say its gone from my mind. but whenever i next open the game there will be this big gap in my mastery tab and it will suddnely spring back in XD

[restive warren]

People keep leaving before the right rotation

[keen lintel]

Exactly. But Ivara is also on circuit so…..

[lofty garden]

Ambassador is still just rotation C, but you can accelerate the Survival runs so it's half the time.

[vagrant tapir]

I cant remember but i think whatever it was was something u cant even trade for

[vagrant tapir]

this is true

[restive warren]

For me it was like Jugulus Spine and Saxum Spittle. I ain't doing that grind again, I'll farm tome mod all over instead.

[quasi ginkgo]

Mirror Defense is very boring because the enemies aren't really a threat unless you are properly AFK and not doing anything. Even then a pet can usually do enough, just one sentinel with a decent weapon.

Archimedea's Mirror Defense is superior because you can spawn Necramech intentionally and kill them to shave off 45s from the timer, which should ABSOLUTELY BE IN REGULAR MODES

[keen lintel]

Detron? Lots of weapons we can’t trade

[restive warren]

Carnis one isn't too bad because it can drop from enemies that are... Litterally everywhere

[vagrant tapir]

Circuit is kinda a cheat though. not saying its bad but u havent suffered till u have had to grind ivara pre circuit like i did XD

[restive warren]

Idk if the 2 drops from enemies as well now, I just know they didn't used to.

[lofty garden]

Eh, Ivara wasn't that difficult to get pre-circuit. I was grinding for all the mods from the spy missions.

[keen lintel]

I did too

[vagrant tapir]

Again wont remember till i next log in and see the gap XD

[restive warren]

Only way to get them back then was from doing endless bounties

[near tulip]

Same 🙏

[quasi ginkgo]

There's a lot of weird little things I still need to go grind out, like the full saxum set I think, and jugulus

[near tulip]

Is nidus in circuit?

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[quasi ginkgo]

I like completing mod collections

[keen lintel]

I just bought it. Lame ass grind

[vagrant tapir]

Think i was also missing that one clan gun that required mutigen samples but noone in my guild has ever been arsed to grind that XD

[quasi ginkgo]

Hema!

[restive warren]

But your honor, I like doing Spy

[quasi ginkgo]

I remember doing that solo before the grind got changed to need far less

Doing a full clan research solo is a really fulfilling experience. I miss having specific resources to farm out ngl

[vagrant tapir]

Even the deralict ones "or void cant reemmber " XD

[restive warren]

The one Lua took a while to learn, mostly one of the vault, it's a lot of phasing through present/past/present/past portals.

[vagrant tapir]

ah yes it was lua

[restive warren]

And the underwater one on Uranus

Tight space underwater = Yuck no ty

Also me playing Subnautica: "I learned nothing"

[vagrant tapir]

Its soo annoying cus theres 0 indication of where u need to go till u have done it a few times or watched a few videos

bane of my exsistance and anyones iv had to help though the game

[restive warren]

... I got trapped twice from doing it without a video in my early learning days

https://tenor.com/view/cat-atten-let-me-out-let-me-in-gif-3355411200692807364

[near tulip]

What shards y'all use on wukong?

Was thinking equilibrium and crit stuff

[restive warren]

Depends

[shrewd hull]

almighty crit dmg violet

[vagrant tapir]

If its me alot of red normaly XD

[near tulip]

Ye I was thinking this

[quasi ginkgo]

The stretch goals of stuff like Vauban Prime when he needed 14k oxium, Hema when it was 5k mutagen samples, were all really enjoyable

[vagrant tapir]

red shards are best shard

[keen lintel]

I had to look up a guide for Lua one I think. Rest I never had an issue with. Yes the underwater one is annoying but gotta avoid having tunnel vision

[restive warren]

Do you use him for the shtick or you use him for movement?

[near tulip]

All taurons?

If you liked hema grind taurons should be along the same vein

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/purple-diamante-universe-gif-16196548

[vagrant tapir]

I also remember that hot cold thing during the war within gave me some trubble but that was years back

oh and the stealth sections in new war

[near tulip]

Got like 6 configs on him

All are independent of shards and don't really care about them so I'm thinking it'd just be for the stick loadout - for when he's in eda eta

[quasi ginkgo]

That's one I haven't done yet, because I'm not too interested in them tbh, I figure I'll just get that eventually, but I don't enjoy Perita too much. I have Nidri, since it's the best one though. The others are kinda like... Zenurik for energy which I don't have problems with, and the others are just aoe damage

[shrewd hull]

stealth mechanics suck in every game they're in that isn't a stealth game

[quasi ginkgo]

Nidri is my fave because it provides superior utility and it's just so cool

[near tulip]

I'm never moving off madurai

[vagrant tapir]

Yup love new war but my god that bit on fortuna gives me ptsd 0-0

[keen lintel]

For me it was the sand worm thing in that Teshin quest. Kept dying lol

[restive warren]

Purple then

[near tulip]

Since the only mission I'm in for more than 10m is cascade

[near tulip]

🙏

[shrewd hull]

monkey madness 2 knowers

[near tulip]

Need stela

[vagrant tapir]

Ah yea the floor is lava bit

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/reject-modernity-return-to-monke-monke-gif-19167526

[near tulip]

Wtb external emojis

I have so many monke ones

[vagrant tapir]

Infact one quest that really gave me trubble was that night wave detective one that isnt in the game anymore. and also the boss it lead to

[keen lintel]

Grind mirror defense/exterminate in steel path whenever u get resource booster. 50-100 every 5 minutes

[quasi ginkgo]

It's been so long since I've done most quests I can't really remember any point I struggled with in particular, but the Golden Maw is always going to be an honorable mention

[keen lintel]

I prefer MD coz it’s more consistent

[vagrant tapir]

I always get to resee them every few years when im leading someone though the game XD

[restive warren]

Listen, we can get creative

[quasi ginkgo]

I guess Stalker during The Second Dream (moreso near release when it was just wild) was pretty tough

[near tulip]

Fr? I was just gonna spend 4h in the survival of a fissure shows up

Do they mostly come from the coffins or drops?

[vagrant tapir]

the umbra quest iv seen people have trubble finding all the scanables

[restive warren]

Mirror def is amazing for Stella

[quasi ginkgo]

I really hope we get some more special mission types on void fissures soon. I swear I've seen Shrine Defense as an alert mission at least.

[restive warren]

Problem is getting people to stick around

[quasi ginkgo]

That jogged my memory. There was actually one story related thing that took a stupid amount of time for me

[near tulip]

Do you need people tho? Can just nyx with a hound if it's not from coffins

[quasi ginkgo]

Glassmaker investigations on release where you were literally looking for needles in haystacks

Back when there was like 0 visual or audio cue

[vagrant tapir]

of the 8 people iv helped every single one of them struggled with that quest finding all the stuff

[quasi ginkgo]

HOLD UP! Glass resonance in your area. 🙄

[restive warren]

True

[vagrant tapir]

kinda amazing seeing multiple people play the same quests cus they all seam to have trubble with the same parts XD

[keen lintel]

3 Coffins in between the 2 defense targets. And the ones u get from collecting the Glyphs (that reinforce your defense). And finally killing enemies. I recommend Nova or Hildryn

[quasi ginkgo]

It generally means it's badly designed. Keep in mind I do not mean the Saya's Vigil quest with Gara. I mean specifically the Nora Night Glassmaker story from a long time ago

[near tulip]

⚰️

Damn gotta collect glyphs

[vagrant tapir]

Like the umbra quest cant tell u how many times iv seen people struggle when u have to use operator to take down his hp bar and it take ages

[near tulip]

I'm looking to smoke three bowls and do as little actions per minute as possible for the stela lmao

[vagrant tapir]

Last person i helped the game forced u to do all 3 open worlds before u was even able to play the normal nodes. such a bad new player experiance cus i couldnt hlep him till he had done demos

[quasi ginkgo]

This might sound like a meme but Soundquake Banshee is genuinely good at MD

[keen lintel]

Make sure to exit after 1st wave. Deploy your on call on the 2nd target so u can focus on glyphs more.

[quasi ginkgo]

Soundquake with Dispensary on 1 lets you keep it up indefinitely, it staggers everything, and Eximus are disabled via Silence, whilst the energy drain summons Duplex Bond pets to deal with the eximi

[near tulip]

Pre steel path she was so good

Very lazy 🙏

[vagrant tapir]

for your first time experiance u shouldnt be forced to play the open world before getting the hang of thigns like u dont even get a arch wing till u almost done with the star chart well atelast u dont get the node where u can grind the stuff efficantly

[quasi ginkgo]

I used to really hate Soundquake but now I understand that it will never be a damage ability, and realise what a good CC it is

[keen lintel]

She can nuke SP too but only base SP

[quasi ginkgo]

I can still use stupid minmax builds to turn Resonating Quake into a Defense clearer on par with Mirage, up to a certain extent

[near tulip]

Ye but there's even lazier options now

[quasi ginkgo]

At least there's stuff like teleporters on the map now so you can click and transport over half the map

[near tulip]

Assuming infinite prep, I'm all about lazy options lol

[vagrant tapir]

ye but the game never once tells u u can open the map to use them. kinda embarsed to admit how many years it took even me before i learned that XD

[quasi ginkgo]

My current grind is decorating my dojo since I decided to redo my layout to accomodate future additions. It feels bittersweet doing a ship of Theseus to the dojo I've had since like 2014 or so

I need to decorate but it's daunting

[vagrant tapir]

Mine when i can be arsed is gonna be litches 0-0

enjoyed them at first but now ooof

[quasi ginkgo]

I don't mind it myself, I feel like Warframe has so much in it that it's okay to just let players stumble about and explore a little

I don't feel a game needs all the information presented to players as it becomes accessible, because it becomes overwhelming. But letting them explore at their own pace is good

Now I just wish we had exact drop rates for everything easily accessible ingame instead of using an external feature in the drop tables

Oh, and let us listen to our somachord in missions...

[restive warren]

I wiiiiiiish

That'd be so nice to be able to toggle Somachord in mission 😭

[quasi ginkgo]

Last time I recommended that in a community someone called me selfish for wanting the devs to add it as a feature, and that it was rude of me to suggest it when I could just open Youtube whilst playing. Like???

[near tulip]

It's selfish to want things apparently

[vagrant tapir]

Even still i think the new player experiance could be better theres alot of stuff that the game never explains. like i always tell people u need youtube or a fraind when trying to get into wf cus if u try to play without any guide u gonna get stressed and quit

[coarse basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/774913008789880842/1507022940917469294/Tumblr_l_191259463511619.gif

[quasi ginkgo]

Bonus points if it also had a toggle to use the mission's adaptive music feature

[quasi ginkgo]

I'm jaded because I haven't been a baby Tenno for like an actual decade. But I feel that the game needs a clear distinction between additive and multiplicative sources, and to communicate how they work to players. I see so many people put a bunch of +damage mods on when showing me their loadouts

That's one of the most important changes I'd make in regards to the game communicating important mechanics

[vagrant tapir]

Dude half the people iv helped dont even put mods on till i tell them

they like oof this game too hard im dieing all the time "on mars

[coarse basin]

callback to the person who got doxxed and lost their volunteer job and their actual job as well as multiple other things cuz they said they'd donate to a charity if the helldivers devs tried one of the planets

[quasi ginkgo]

We've gotten so much QoL and explained stuff over the years. Being able to see shield regen values, armour values, abilities having further descriptions in the ability screen, etc

[vagrant tapir]

Kinda the issue with how many mods there are and the game not having that new teshin quest atleast slightly explaining them till now

also the game never once expalined mixing mods to make gas and viral.

[near tulip]

I feel like a lot of people just want gameplay instead of any of the prep.

You see it a lot here in this chat

[quasi ginkgo]

I think that's okay to have as something for players to learn by experimenting

[vagrant tapir]

Thing is with that people just getting into the game see its free to play so are only here to try it cus they dont know if its for them. they also dont know that u only have to level up mods once then they can be used on all frames so they feel the need to stockpile credits and endo

[quasi ginkgo]

If it needs a calculator or external information source for you to be able to understand it, then the game probably needs to communicate it better. e.g drop tables

[coarse basin]

now they do

in the teacher

[vagrant tapir]

I mean im the same now when i help people but it sucks for the people who dont have frainds to help them

[near tulip]

This quest was a p good attempt to streamline for new players

[quasi ginkgo]

Warframe very much becomes a better game when you have a friend to guide you

I still have the Prisma Gorgon that my Tenno teacher helped me get when I was a new player, and nowadays it's even a good weapon

[vagrant tapir]

Ah yes the amount of times someone wants a weapon or mod and i tell them its a c drop and they are like "what the hell is a C drop"

[quasi ginkgo]

Codex for mission types should explain their rewards imo

[vagrant tapir]

Yup like iv said for years u know you have mastered the game when its u helping someone else though it XD

[quasi ginkgo]

I'd really like Warframe's codex to be more extensive, to the degree Terraria's bestiary is showing specific% drops and such

[near tulip]

For sure. I've got a few new players imprinted on me rn. That's true endgame

[vagrant tapir]

Ingame if u want to know where a specific mod is its soo confusing even now i just use the wiki

[quasi ginkgo]

Like if I want to learn how to get a mod, it will tell me the mission sure. But it doesn't tell me what % drop, which part of the rotation

[vagrant tapir]

Sometimes whatever drop sorces it has at the top is the worst possable drop chance. like i sore one that was only form railjack enemys with like a 2 % chance or something like that like that is soo bad not telling people what the chance is

or theres even the beginer trap of people spending all there nw credits on junk and not having anything left for nitane

[quasi ginkgo]

So all in all because I love repeating myself to explain things, what I want to see to improve the player experience in Warframe is:

Clearly define and explain the difference between additive and multiplicative damage sources, and outline which things in the game provide which.
Path of Exile for example separates Increased (additive) from More (multiplicative).

Codex displaying the drop rates and drop rotation of each reward, such as telling you a mod's drop %, and if it's from A B or C, and explaining ABC rotation rewards too.

[near tulip]

Oh man Poe mentioned

[quasi ginkgo]

A baby tenno I've been mentoring told me he sold his nightwave creds for credits because he needed the money. I felt heartburn

[vagrant tapir]

ooof

[quasi ginkgo]

I loved the game for a long time, got Mageblood to drop naturally even, and felt extremely fulfilled doing uber elder, maven, and a bunch of other stuff solo with my own build. Extremely fun. But doesn't respect your time at all imo

[vagrant tapir]

Though tbh i did once see a baby tenno selling a prime mod that was worth 100p for some fish

[quasi ginkgo]

I still hear "IT'S BRANCHING EXILE!" in my head

I am very happy with all the QoL and general improvements to Warframe's clarity we've gotten over the past 4 or so years especially, I genuinely feel we're in a golden age

Now I just need to continue throwing eggs at Digital Extremes HQ to get them to give minor reworks to some older frames like Chroma and Ember

[vagrant tapir]

Def much better than when i tryed around launch my god that was not a fun time.
that was back when u had to pay to respawn and build keys to play void maps 0.0

Think i remember they took a hour or something as well

[quasi ginkgo]

Yeah, I remember that, Hieracon farming for hours to get Void Keys to farm Void Sabotage for a 10% chance at Loki Chassis or something

I do miss the old star chart from that era, and the colour grading the Void used to have

[vagrant tapir]

yup soo fun trying to play that as a baby teno when u dont get matchmade help in there cus it was pay key to enter and i also didnt understand the modding system

[vagrant tapir]

ooof nastaguia

[quasi ginkgo]

I liked this old layout for planets more even if it was functionally less clear

[vagrant tapir]

though no orbiter back then

[quasi ginkgo]

It just looked so much more unique

Back when abilities were mods

[vagrant tapir]

oh yea they was

keep forgeting that

[quasi ginkgo]

It'll be very entertaining if DE brought back a ton of nostalgic stuff like this for Tau. Imagine we go to Tau and the star chart looks like this

[final vector]

outside of the kuva nukor, what kuva secondaries can be fun to use

[vagrant tapir]

Should do what deep rock does and let u play legacy builds of the game just for that hit of nostaguia

[quasi ginkgo]

Why specifically kuva secondaries, if I can ask?

[vagrant tapir]

Anyone remember that window on corpus maps ?

[quasi ginkgo]

I find the Kuva Brakk great, it's just so strong and easy to use

[quasi ginkgo]

If we still had that Titania players would be getting stuck in it like a mosquito trap lol

[final vector]

just something different from the usual since i already have a primary and melee im after for my kuva themed mirage

[vagrant tapir]

yup and id still be rufusing to play that tileset in public XD

soo annoying cus i swear some players would break it on purpus

ik my m8s always did

[hasty marten]

Guys i have a really important question, how should i name my kuva nukor torid and praedos?

[vagrant tapir]

If its me i just mash the keyboard cus they all mastery fodder XD

[quasi ginkgo]

Red Bull for Praedos, perhaps, since it gives so many buffs to parkour, and you can use holster styles to make holstered batons look like wings

[daring parrot]

Stug Prime

[vagrant tapir]

all i need for companionship is my deathcube for unlimited revives and my kavat for pooping out 2 potatos :3

[hasty marten]

Cool

[quasi ginkgo]

I've been enjoying Chesacrate and Sahasa myself, I did turn my Dethcube into a little sunflower since it gives me energy

[polar smelt]

Bored

[daring parrot]

Play phonopolis

[raven sigil]

I hope I'm in the Right place I'm kinda Stuck in my Game I have 63 Travoride an I can't seem to craft Travocyte Alloy

[leaden obsidian]

Do you have the blueprint

[raven sigil]

Let me Check

[lofty garden]

have the blueprint, salvage, and plastids?

[raven sigil]

No I don't where can I get the Blueprint at?

[leaden obsidian]

Smokefinger on fortuna

[coarse basin]

fortuna

[raven sigil]

Thank you

[rich pagoda]

Any feedback for me drawing? #fan-art message

[coarse basin]

I would recommend adding more (removable) mechanical parts or clothing to the torso area, just to avoid a huge expanse of empty space, and make the shoes stand out more

[vast totem]

The arm proportions are off. It looks like his right arm is shorter

[rich pagoda]

Heirloom skins don’t need clothing /j but yeah I see what you mean

[rich pagoda]

Proportions are traced directly off of this

[coarse basin]

I think the angle of his body is just more obvious here, which is why

[polar smelt]

A what?

[forest solar]

I think reset zones on some levels need to be lowered.

I just got killed by an acolyte cause i slightly rolled off an odd and was able to double jump but due to the reset thing being so flush with the platform i was forced reset and they where able to just wail on me for that moment.

[daring parrot]

New game that came out recently by my fav dev

One of their best games yet. Most if not all of the textures are hand painted and made of cardboard

[edgy briar]

yummy plat

[spare bane]

Nice damn hahaha

[brittle spire]

How do you even make that much plat off a riven I keep getting screwed with bad rolls or weapons with low riven dispo 😩

[spare bane]

We are the same here. The highest I've sold is a Burston at 450p hahaha

[trim bobcat]

Man Jade Shadows is quite a sad story

[untold path]

Whats the worst weapon lf each type

[trim bobcat]

No wonder why Stalker hated Warframes so much

[warm monolith]

Thats not it

He hates us for killing the orokin

[quasi ginkgo]

Yeah. There's additional lore behind Teshin in the relays that will make it even sadder btw

[warm monolith]

Although it seems like a retcon to me

[trim bobcat]

But didnt Orokin turn people into Warframe?

[untold path]

Wich is stupid cus the Orokin made them Warframes

[untold path]

Exactly

[trim bobcat]

Feels like his obsession was misguided

[edgy briar]

This was a really lucky roll on the Magistar, good plus and harmless neg
so of course it's gonna fetch me some pretty penny

[untold path]

Whats the best Tenet weapon

[quasi ginkgo]

Yeah, that's a large part of the story

[spare bane]

Not here, go to #spoiler-chat to talk further

Risk of new players being spoiled so might continue there

[trim bobcat]

Jade Shadows event was released earlier

At this point, i am behind the newbies anyways

[tepid oar]

in the second dream quest does the options I choose do anything?

[trim bobcat]

No

[daring parrot]

Yes

Kinda

[trim bobcat]

It just represents your ying and yang

Which is pointless

Just pretend to roleplay and think what you want

[tepid oar]

oh it make sense now

[daring parrot]

The choices are basically a personality test to see which focus school would best suit your playstyle at first

But you can just choose any focus school

[pallid canyon]

madurai >>>>

[quasi ginkgo]

When I finished Second Dream I woke up on a beach as a Riolu :/

[tepid oar]

school?

[trim bobcat]

I know praedos is used as an utility weapon, but at this point, i like to try building a helicopter mode to spin infinitely all over the place

[tepid oar]

oh i see 5 options

[trim bobcat]

Go Zenurik, it is good for new tennos

[daring parrot]

You can eventually unlock all of them

[pallid canyon]

every option that isnt naramon is good

[trim bobcat]

Naramon is for melee chads

They wont get it anyways

[daring parrot]

Naramon is actually basically useless

[pallid canyon]

naramon is so unbelievably mid and its not even used for melee

[tepid oar]

do each have benefits?

[pallid canyon]

naramon's niche for melee combo has been largely replaced by archguns

[trim bobcat]

Zenurik - energy generation
Madurai - dmg boost
Naramon - Melee

Forgot what other schools give

[daring parrot]

Unairu is knockdown prevention and free self revive

[quasi ginkgo]

Zenurik has traits that let you cast abilities more often, and empowers them a little.

Vazarin is all about healing and restoration for your entire team.

Madurai is pure damage and brute force.

Unairu is for weakening and softening the enemy, and bolstering your own defenses.

Naramon is for buffing melee, and keeping the enemy debuffed to buff yourself.

[pallid canyon]

literally every option is good(except naramon), madurai and unairu would be my recommendations

unairu last grasp is pretty gross

[quasi ginkgo]

They're all good but Zenurik is usually recommended the most, because it's one of the best earlygame energy options that can apply to all Warframes, before you have enough resources for other options to be reliably available or even accessible

[trim bobcat]

Don't worry, Naramon will get buffed later this year

https://tenor.com/view/copium-copium-od-copium-overdose-overdose-twitch-gif-9006779378751968406

[pallid canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/hl2-hl3-half-life-3-hopium-hope-gif-7246120153840726923

[quasi ginkgo]

You can unlock them all later, you're not stuck with the one you choose, either

[pallid canyon]

it needs it

[tepid oar]

ooo thanks ill choose Zenurik for now

[pallid canyon]

i'd like a justification to use the giant sword but man

[quasi ginkgo]

Enjoy, it'll help you the most

[lofty garden]

if your frame doesn’t use energy, then you don’t need zenurik

[pallid canyon]

not being able to quickly spam cast abilities for arcanes, probably the most underweheling strike even with the increased recharge

[quasi ginkgo]

It's unlikely a new player finishing the Second Dream has Hildryn or Lavos yet

[spare bane]

Question: does the sea snare (Yarelli 1) works on Acolytes?

[pallid canyon]

its sole niche being keeping melee combo up was replaced by archguns and arcanes

[buoyant sequoia]

what are some easy to get frames with good subsumes

[quasi ginkgo]

I find Vazarin and Zenurik's tektolysts so much better than the others on paper, their effects last longer and have more specific use cases than just giving 30s of specific buffs to overkill your already good stats, imo

[spare bane]

Volt and Rhino

[pallid canyon]

rhinos available on like planet 2 or 3

[quasi ginkgo]

I'll speak from experience on that when I grind the others out and play with them enough though

[buoyant sequoia]

besides volt rhino gauss

and mirage

[true kayak]

Zenurik is arguably better on hildryn and lavos, because you can cast a subsumed ability to activate the buff and then keep them active forever without recasting

[spare bane]

Hell all of them are quite hard

Nourish is next

[buoyant sequoia]

and nourish

[spare bane]

Nothing much

Those are the only universal buffs you get

[buoyant sequoia]

alr

[spare bane]

Well not universal but you get what I meant

[buoyant sequoia]

oh yeah

how does nezhas firewalker status immunity work

[spare bane]

If you want a niche subsume, Pyrotechnics is a good one (Temple)

[spare bane]

You just don't get status

[buoyant sequoia]

do i need to like stop walking for it

[spare bane]

Or if you do, it erases them

[long steppe]

whats the diff between thieves wit and animal instincts? i want to have the QoL of seeing drops and stuff on the minimap, are they the same? or are they any different?

[buoyant sequoia]

and like step on the flames

[spare bane]

Idk, I haven't used it as I subsume that slot

[buoyant sequoia]

damn lol

[spare bane]

But all I know is... Just use it

[buoyant sequoia]

p sure they work the same

only difference is if your pet dies that shit gone

compared to putting thieves wit on

[long steppe]

i see

[true kayak]

Animal instinct works when pet is dead

[spare bane]

Best to have Animal Instincts are Panzers

They usually "don't die" as they have forms hahha

[buoyant sequoia]

oh what

[true kayak]

And doesn’t take up a more valuable mod slot on the frame

[buoyant sequoia]

never knew

theres a primed version for animal instinct right

[spare bane]

Yes

[buoyant sequoia]

alr

[long steppe]

its not like the exilus slot is very valuable to me,i think. Best i can get is power drift

[true kayak]

Or mobilize
Or cunning drift

What frame is this?

[lofty garden]

psf!

[long steppe]

rhino

[true kayak]

Mobilize

[quasi ginkgo]

Aero Vantage or Mobilize are just generally great tbh. Ice Spring also has a handy functionality in that it lets you use your bullet jump to slow proc enemies whilst also knocking them down in a slowed animation. Extremely niche but still a thing

[restive warren]

[long steppe]

is mobilize that noticeable? i think id rather have thieves wit, tbh, seems way more useful

[floral osprey]

tbh for exilus slot if your not doing psf then i would honestly just say one of the 15% ability mods unless your specifically looking for parkour speed or sprint speed type stuff (or aim glide)

[quasi ginkgo]

It just generally makes you 20% faster when bullet jumping, it's not a world of difference but it helps a lot imo for speeding missions up

[novel cobalt]

it's permanently active even while the pet is dead. even in some instances where companion is disabled, like titania's razorwing

[quasi ginkgo]

If you're constantly bullet jumping through a tileset to move through the mission, may as well do that 1/5th faster rather than have 5% more armour strip or 2m more range on something

[floral osprey]

yea but if your motor functions are use to the normal bullet jump and you dont wana change it then 15% ability stuff

[novel cobalt]

slide bonuses also do something similar given how the start of the bullet jump involves that

when not using PSF, the drift mods are great in exilus for small bonuses like that too

[long steppe]

rhino shouldnt need PSF anyway, right

[novel cobalt]

it's mostly used to prevent self-harm via explosive weaponry, so it's weapon-dependent

[floral osprey]

i mean shouldnt yes, but doesnt stop people (knightmare frame) from putting psf on frames with inate knockdown immunity already

[novel cobalt]

if rhino has knockdown immunity already then yeah, ditch it

[floral osprey]

prty sure overguard gives kd immunity which you get from iron skin

[trim bobcat]

Is ninjase's praedos build still functional?

I am about to go helicopter mode on scaldras/tenots

[novel cobalt]

functional and perfect are different. should still be functional/viable, unsure about perfect

[floral osprey]

honestly main use for the preados is for the parkour speed stuff not the actual weapon (the evos are active for parkour speed even when the weapon isnt incarnon'd)

[trim bobcat]

I know that, i had been using it for past week

For mobility

[floral osprey]

so like just do some crab sweat on it or smthn and itll probably be fine although iirc it has a bunch of heavy attack stuff built in

[trim bobcat]

Thinking of going dps now

Dont mind using formas on it

[spare bane]

Og gives immunity to KD ye

What does Elemental Vice do?

[trim bobcat]

Melee influence is what i have in mind

[floral osprey]

icl im so use to using psf on everything (its taken over my brain help) that i forget what gives kd immunity 😭

[trim bobcat]

Switches elements in codas/kuvas

[floral osprey]

lets you change the progen element on adversary weapons at 5 forma

[trim bobcat]

Oh it requires 5 forma?

[novel cobalt]

installed like an orokin reactor, lets you freely change progenitor element infinitely once imbued. requires lvl40.

[trim bobcat]

Oh damn, that is sad

[spare bane]

https://tenor.com/view/psf-achieved-prime-sure-footed-gif-1148020612292723700

[true kayak]

Any form of status immunity

[floral osprey]

yup, also lets you just change it at will to so you dont need to keep putting more into it

[spare bane]

Oh I see, so I need to crank my Nukor up hahaha

[daring parrot]

You should get secondary enervate id you havent already

[floral osprey]

ik status immunity also gives kd immunity, just was tweaking for a sec

[daring parrot]

Its THE arcane to use with the nukor

[spare bane]

I had my Nukor at rad so I need it to change it to Magnt

[spare bane]

Have to buy it again hahahah

[novel cobalt]

magnetic for better DPS overall, yeah

[daring parrot]

At least its easy to get

[floral osprey]

enervate is honestly such a game changer for it because it lets the nukor actually use the insane crit damage stat

[spare bane]

Wait wait what's the best subsume for Inaros? Bc if Enervate is easy then I'll just farm it. So now I'mma try build Inaros

[daring parrot]

5x base crit damage lol

[spare bane]

Is it roar still?

[novel cobalt]

enervate is from the same vendor as the elemental vice, if your 1999 safehunting hasn't r5'd it for you yet

goes on the gun.

[floral osprey]

kinda whatever you want ig? you get status immuniy from your 3, you have a huge hp pool so you can just stack some armour slap on persistence and arcane grace and you have enough hp that you can effectively never die as long as your 3 is up

[spare bane]

1999 huh, ya I'll farm 1999 too bc I need to at least catch up to others and date at least one... Aoi

[spare bane]

That's true

[floral osprey]

think people typically take off either pocket sand or tornado iirc but end of the day kinda just whatever you need tbh

ik u need pocket sand for the sand kavat augment tho

[spare bane]

Oh I meant what's the subsume for Inaros

[floral osprey]

whatever you want

[spare bane]

Oh

[floral osprey]

roar and nourish are my immediate slop go tos that are just generically good

[novel cobalt]

pocket sand is valuable for making kavats on other dudes, but probably ain't needed on inaros himself

[spare bane]

O m a m o r i hehehhhehe

[floral osprey]

tbf i think it lets the kavats spread corrosive iirc

[novel cobalt]

all it does is bump up the cat limit & make dessication-provided finisher opportunities spawn cats iirc

[spare bane]

That's the one where you need to do a finisher for it to spawn right?

[novel cobalt]

the cats spread their gunk with any hit they dish out regardless

[floral osprey]

fair enough ig

[novel cobalt]

(including passive damage, such as from shocking speed)

[spare bane]

The 1st skill augment

You need to do a finisher for it right?

[novel cobalt]

a finisher enabled by dessication specifically iirc

[spare bane]

Oh so it's automatic

[floral osprey]

think the 1st augment does kinda also apply to the 4 iirc?

[novel cobalt]

throw the pocket sand and hit interact

[floral osprey]

i dont have it pulled up and havent read to much into it so might be tweaking

[spare bane]

Aight bet, will try later

Welp gtg to work, cya tennos!

[novel cobalt]

works like a charm if followed up by speed on volt

unsure how useful it is on the man himself when he has a move that makes them without requiring finishers

is there anything that can be thrown on inaros to make his cats dish out more hits?

[narrow lantern]

Just got 3 2x forma bp in a row

from my own relics.. expired this month's luck quota xd

[long steppe]

is vigilante supplies good?

[novel cobalt]

for weapons with ammo issues and weapons that don't otherwise benefit much from the exilus slot, yes.

it's a free damage buff on a slot that usually doesn't buff damage at all, even if it's negligible.

[long steppe]

i see... Also, is there any reason for me to go over 100% status chance?

[novel cobalt]

every time you go up 100 percent for status chance, it starts rolling for a new status effect with that bonus percent

[restive warren]

Dyno said no thank you

[novel cobalt]

e. g. 435% SC guarantees four status effects and rolls for a fifth with the leftover 35%

[restive warren]

Do we need to summon moderators?

[long steppe]

poor guy got hacked

[untold path]

https://tenor.com/view/bop-bop-bop-shoebody-bop-squad-summon-dark-magic-gif-13983602502478731881

<@&778745217037238293>

[restive warren]

<@&778745217037238293>

We have a wild one

[long steppe]

not his fault tho, those are sent automatically, i have a few friends that got that

[restive warren]

I thought that's a spammer?

[long steppe]

no, they hack your discord and send that to every group/server youre in

[restive warren]

Pretty sure no ghost get into your fingers to press sus button on your discord

[restive warren]

You need to give them something for them to hack, be you giving info you shouldn't or pressing links you shouldn't

[long steppe]

oh yeah, i mean

[restive warren]

Watch our for the ghost in your fingies I guess

[novel cobalt]

and there in lies how they are at fault - being foolish enough to leave their discord info in a grabbable place

[long steppe]

thats for sure

[restive warren]

I'll go get Ghostbuster now

When my friend give me weird link I ask them to join vc

[long steppe]

but banning them seems harsh, maybe just mute them for a couple weeks, until they regain control of their acc

[restive warren]

It's not.

[novel cobalt]

compronised accounts usually remain compromised

and the OG dude can just make an alt

[restive warren]

You shouldn't risk everyone else because "oh poor x person"

[novel cobalt]

(which is safer for all parties)

[round tide]

My account got hacked awhile back and i managed to get it back

[long steppe]

yeah, its safer, but none of the people ive seen that happen to them had any issues afterwards. But yeah, safe to ban

[novel cobalt]

you are an outlier

congrats, but your situation ain't the norm by a long shot

[restive warren]

It's on a role of a dice honestly

[novel cobalt]

take this from a lad working in cybersecurity

[round tide]

I spammed discord about it

[novel cobalt]

you ain't the norm

[pliant trench]

i back, after i exploit every grind available, now i am burnout

[restive warren]

Again

[pliant trench]

damn that 1700 login reward really did number

[novel cobalt]

hans, get ze extinguisher

[long steppe]

i mean, you can regain control if you do things right and youre smart enough. Can be rough since if you fall for those things, youre not smart enough

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-water-gif-18466013

Malding

[polar smelt]

You mean for soulframe i already played it to be honest that shit was scary for me

[novel cobalt]

he werfed too much with his flammen

[restive warren]

Soulframe is scary..? In the newer update or late..?

[polar smelt]

Huh no i recently played it few years ago

[restive warren]

ah

[polar smelt]

I stop playing it tbh

[restive warren]

Subnautica next then?

[pliant trench]

i wish de make puddle warframe like hydroid

can you imagine move fast underground lmao

[restive warren]

THE MOLE PEOPLE

https://tenor.com/view/animal-crossing-mr-resetti-whats-wrong-with-you-what-is-wrong-with-you-what-is-wrong-with-u-gif-16626596

I can hear it

[buoyant sequoia]

does nezhas fire walker work like psf

or do i need to stop walking and step on flames for the status immunity

[restive warren]

I can hear his theme music just looking at it. The pain of my DS dying and Resetti going on a rant about saving more often

[pliant trench]

it just status cleanse, that immunity

[buoyant sequoia]

so if i have it on

i can still get knocked down by fire eximus?

[pliant trench]

yes from knockback

[restive warren]

Yeah the wording is a bit confusing on Fire Walker

Guess you need to analyze the sentence backward

[quasi ginkgo]

I'll test it in simulacrum shortly

[quasi ginkgo]

So I tested with a Heavy Gunner's slam.
Standing still makes you immune to it, whilst moving can sometimes make you get knocked down.

My take is, whilst Fire Walker is active, it leaves a trail of small circles that grant status immunity and cleanse statuses whilst you're in it.
Moving forwards means there's small moments where you're not 'in' one of these, and can be knocked down

[lofty garden]

Are we talking while being nezha, or a subsume?

Nezha with warding halo and fire walker does not get knocked down. No fire walker, no status immunity. I do not recall ever being knocked down while fire walker was active, even in the air since the fire trail follows you.

[oak wyvern]

Where can we report bugs?

[quasi ginkgo]

Here's a short video of Nezha being knocked over during Fire Walker

[pliant trench]

#support-and-bugs

[lofty garden]

Yeah, so in actual gameplay, that doesn't happen.

Or, it is a bug on Mobile.

[quasi ginkgo]

The question was if Fire Walker being active granted Nezha knockdown immunity whilst it is active

[lofty garden]

The price you pay for gerfingerpoken UIs.

It does.

I played Nezha extensively before I hit PSF day explicitly because he is one of the frames with status immunity.

[small needle]

i just got kicked from an arbitration, was still able to message them in my orbiter thru squad chat yet wasnt able to rejoin

what happened there?

[glossy pond]

I gotta admit, after obtaining umbra... I am suprised 😔
||and lotus has pretty face 😂||

The story is rather nice. And for who umbra is and why he is sentient is very interesting. Damn 😭 now I want more umbra story

[chrome shale]

trying to build my own ember and going for just a weapon platform for crit weapons

[glossy pond]

Pink hud? 👀

[chrome shale]

you talking about me?

[glossy pond]

Who else?

[chrome shale]

thats the base fortuna hud

it looks so nice on teh eyes i bought it

[glossy pond]

👍

[quasi ginkgo]

I just went and tested it in a regular mission, and my understanding of it still applied to this situation, getting knocked down by a Blitz Eximus.

Fire Walker being active doesn't give knockdown immunity.
Fire Walker creates small repeated circles that grant status immunity, including knockdown immunity, similarly to Oberon's Hallowed Ground.
Walking causes you to outpace Fire Walker's placement, which gives periods where you're able to be knocked down.

[lofty garden]

Like I said, this sounds like a mobile issue. On PC, Nezha has complete status immunity when fire walker is active

[quasi ginkgo]

It doesn't really apply much to Nezha gameplay but is good to know for the subsume I suppose, since Nezha gets knockdown immunity from Warding Halo.

Pretty much everything I see ingame and online specifies that you only gain immunity -whilst standing on- Fire Walker, not just having it active. If I could play Warframe on other platforms I'd test it there too.

[lofty garden]

Ok, yes, if you use it as a subsume and don’t have warding halo, it will not work the same way, it is a status cleanser, not status immunity.

[glossy pond]

I have few questions about umbra but I don't want to spoil it 😔

[pliant trench]

wasnt warding halo kit make nezha immnune to stagger

[glossy pond]

Time to make a reddit post 😂

[quasi ginkgo]

Knockdown yes, idk about stagger

[lofty garden]

warding halo is immunity from status effects. fire walker cleanses status effects

[chrome shale]

huh heirloom skins have their own icon

[lofty garden]

On PC, fire walker is a continuous trail, not puddles

[placid turtle]

Everything Umbra will be in the Sacrifice quest

Just finish that if you haven't

[glossy pond]

I am going to sleep

It's 2am 😔

[placid turtle]

Rest well, Tenno!

[polar smelt]

Welp immmm bored

[glossy pond]

I just have few questions not exactly related to umbra but I'll do as you say

My brain will not let me sleep but oh well

[chrome shale]

if you want pink hud heres pink everything

[glossy pond]

Too dark, make it brighter

[chrome shale]

lol

[untold path]

What

I can customize that

How

[placid turtle]

Settings

Lemme get the exact place

Options > Interface > Customize UI theme

Then you can customize it accordingly

[final vector]

How good is shade prime?

[edgy briar]

for stealth? pretty good
its burst laser prime, easily reaches >50% with crit. delay
other than that? pretty niche

[novel cobalt]

great for defense on caster frames, providing invisibility that warframe abilities don't break(but gunfire does).

for it to have offensive potential itself, you want another choice, but for ability-based room-clearers, they're exceptionally great

[sweet meteor]

can anyone walk me through kuva lich stuff? I'm still very confused on it, I'm assuming I have to get requiem relics to then get all of the requiem mods to then kill the person? But what do I even get from doing all of that and is it worth it at mr7?

[novel cobalt]

check DMs - forwarded a basic guide

[sweet meteor]

oh hell yeah, ty very much!

[quasi ginkgo]

Kuva Liches give upgraded versions of existing weapons like the Sobek and Hek, as well as some unique ones like the Kuva Bramma, which have a bonus elemental damage. It ranges from 25-60%, and the element is based on the Warframe you used to make the lich.

Requiem Relics can be gained from Palladino in Iron Wake (for an old version), or drop from Kuva Thralls in Kuva Lich infected missions. You open them, get the requiem mods, and you want to get all of the mods. You equip up to 3 in your Parazon.

You then run the missions, the lich sometimes spawns, and you can stab them. If the first mod in the sequence is correct, it glows white, so that's the correct mod for that slot. When you stab them, they move to a higher tier planet and get stronger. As you kill thralls, the lich becomes angrier and more likely to invade your mission. At highest rank, they always invade.

Once you have the 3 mod combo correct, they flee to a mission in Railjack where you go to finish them for good.

[hollow cradle]

Farm Requiem relics from kuva siphon (50%) and kuva flood (100%)
Kuva Lich's Thralls or Sisters of Parvos's Hounds have a 5% chance to drop a Requiem Eterna Relic.

[quasi ginkgo]

Some liches have traits like being afraid of children, which means your Operator makes them scream and run away. Some even have ephemeras, which are just cosmetics you gain by finishing your lich.

[sweet meteor]

at what point in the game should I chase one of these weapons?

[quasi ginkgo]

When you've cleared the starchart, imo

[sweet meteor]

yeaah I'm at like 60/298 soooo

[quasi ginkgo]

Kuva Liches at max lvl are lvl 100 roughly, and pretty difficult to deal with

[hollow cradle]

max rank lich has lvl 90-110 enemies but its not hard with good builds.

[pallid geode]

i love rad liches. they cause so much chaos

[hollow cradle]

lol

[hollow cradle]

when you can handle lvl 90-110 enemies, liches arent hard.

[sweet meteor]

oh yeah I should be good then

[hollow cradle]

When you have lich, if it spawns into defence mission, use warframe specter from gear wheel and place it away from the defence objective. Lich will attack specter instead of defence objective.

[quasi ginkgo]

Just make sure you take advantage of the lich's weak element, it'll help you a lot

[hollow cradle]

Use invis warframe and you dont get shot at

If you have a toxin lich, do not use warframe abilities on it or it will proc miasma poison cloud on your warframe.

[novel cobalt]

overall, if you can handle steel path, the lich should be trivial

[golden pecan]

i am so over trying to get vitrica

[hollow cradle]

Nihil fight isnt the most fun

[golden pecan]

it actually just sucks

[novel cobalt]

just don't underestimate the toxin liches since they can render shieldgating pointless

[golden pecan]

i barely got clipped by the slash

i needed one more hit to get it

i am not trying again

[final vector]

what about for spy missions. how good is it for those?

[novel cobalt]

in spy missions, you're not fighting at all if you can help it.

[hollow cradle]

You dont have to kill anything in spy mission

[near tulip]

Divine power

[elfin belfry]

JOHN WARFRAME HAS BLESSED ME

[final vector]

mostly its just when stalker or accolyte shows up

[elfin belfry]

I HAVE BEEN SAVED ON THIS DAY. MY PLIGHT HAS BEEN SAVED

gifted someone Mag's protoframe since i gotta pass the love along

[final vector]

my go to for spy missions is voruna. but i do use my drifter a lot to get past the lasers

[novel cobalt]

also, you're probably using something like skiajati, daggers or atomicycle to do the kills in spy if you're optimizing it, so you wouldn't be using primaries in the first place outside of disabling cameras or shooting lua spy buttons

[novel cobalt]

void mode doesn't work for that anymore?

[elfin belfry]

what do i go with on Caliban?

[novel cobalt]

two tauforged casting speed for his fourth skill, three flex

[elfin belfry]

this is my first time doing ANY archon shards on my warframe lmao

[novel cobalt]

in that case, try one casting speed and feel the difference

[glossy pond]

What frame with invisibility is one I should go for. I am tempted to go for Octavia Prime