gameplay-discussion

[leaden obsidian]

Basically yeah

[placid schooner]

Im getting told the prime i want to build is one of the worst frames 🥀

[pallid canyon]

also kind of investment heavy since it wants roar and 255% ability strength, making it tougher for new players

[keen owl]

Best nuke is collective curse

[pallid canyon]

still very strong though

[placid schooner]

Bro qouted himself

[pallid canyon]

He has the highest recorded kpm, followed by sobek nukes

[placid schooner]

As in subsume roar or another dude using roar

[pallid canyon]

you want roar at 255% strength

[placid schooner]

So another dude using roar?

[pallid canyon]

so its implied your own roar to reach that threshold

if the other persons roar doesnt reach 255% then you want get the 100% ehp nuke

[placid schooner]

I thought roar was better from a rhino

[pallid canyon]

it is

[placid schooner]

Crazy

[severe plover]

I like Sevagoth, its just that hes passive is so BS, is crazy business

[pallid canyon]

its just that it gets more damage per strength% in rhino than it does as a subsume

[severe plover]

like Nourish

[pallid canyon]

you dont want to have to rely on other people to keep your kit running

Nourish also works fine its just less consistant

if you’re not able to reach the strength% i’d use nourish

[severe plover]

Nourish is limited for 1 viral proc too

[tidal plover]

Yeah also IDK what to tell ya but @spare bane Shred is the only Fire Rate Mode where I can consistently hit my Perfect Shots until I get the Primed Version

[severe plover]

still, like Roar, very good skills to have

[placid schooner]

Is the worst frame the least used

[obsidian forum]

Every Warframe subsume is given a reduction/debuff. Ex. Kullervo’s has a reduced range.

[placid schooner]

Likei feel like the late game frames that are mid are lowkey the worst

[obsidian forum]

You can get it at the 200 day milestone.

[pallid canyon]

I wouldnt use usage% as a basis for whats good

Like grendel and grendel prime are ranked 4th and 5th respectively despite having infinite scaling and perfect survivability

[placid schooner]

I mean its safe to assume temple is ass because nobody uses him

[obsidian forum]

People use him

[pallid canyon]

hes annoying to grind

[placid schooner]

No they dont

[pallid canyon]

theres several other things that determine usage %

most notably fashion

[obsidian forum]

Counterpoint, the defense missions I was running yesterday where I ran into multiple temples.

[severe plover]

Hey, honest question, Vadarya's skill proc active Archon Stretch?

[pallid canyon]

no?

its not a warframe ability

[severe plover]

Beasts its not warframes, but the claws active

[pallid canyon]

companion abilities are counted as warframe abilities

[willow bluff]

Unique damage instances will never proc warframe ability triggers even by accident

[pallid canyon]

because they are still abilities

[severe plover]

how this make sense, lmao

buts okay, DE for u

[willow bluff]

Companion abilities also have several inconsistencies with procing warframe ability triggers

So no sense on either side, because the "c" in warframe stands for consistency.

[placid schooner]

Should I buy arcanes cause they will 10 fold my dmg

[severe plover]

yeah, i know this, thats why i questioning about Vadarya's ability

you never know

[willow bluff]

Weapons never have and never will accidentally proc that

They don't do that kind of mistakes

[obsidian forum]

You can farm most Arcanes. So it’s best to be patient and buy them from Loid with Arcane packs or use event shops to buy a bunch of Arcanes.

[waxen pebble]

i'd say it depends on the arcane, if its easy to farm and stuff then just farm it, otherwise it may be worth buying off market

[forest jacinth]

Which relics will give me the Braton Prime parts? The only ones I have are giving me the Barrel.

[severe plover]

in void relics in the ship you can filter, i think...

[placid schooner]

Btw this weapon is mr fodder

[forest jacinth]

As in not good?

[placid schooner]

Yes

Prime ≠ good

[severe plover]

nah, Braton is Ok, sure

[waxen pebble]

disinformation final boss

[placid schooner]

Weapons need incarnations to be good

[obsidian forum]

Braton Prime is good, it just needs it’s incarnon to get there

[severe plover]

and why u saying to him this?

[lofty garden]

wiki will show which relics have what parts. braton prime incarnon is decent

[pallid canyon]

braton has an incarnon thats pretty good

its literally just Burston incarnon but worse though

[obsidian forum]

Again, false. Acceltra, and many others don’t have incarnons and are stellar weapons.

[pallid canyon]

acceltra is so mid though

[placid schooner]

You cant get it so it doesn't really matter

[forest jacinth]

Yeah I do plan on getting the incarnon for this and Torid actually. That's why I'm trying to unlock Braton

[pallid canyon]

theres so many things you could have said

and you chose acceltra

[obsidian forum]

Yeah, Acceltra is mid, but it’s what came to the top of my head

[waxen pebble]

do you purposefully ragebait? your statements and name suggest you do

[placid schooner]

What are some weapons better than nataruk that dont need incarnations

[obsidian forum]

I had a pretty nutty mix with it and Oraxia in Duviri yesterday.

[severe plover]

Ocucor, Acceltra, Fulmin, Cedo. Pyrana, Kompressa, Epitath

[placid schooner]

I dont know what ragebaiting is everyone has a different definition of it

[severe plover]

like, u smoking some really crazy shit...

[forest jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/dale-twd-the-walking-dead-dale-horvath-confused-gif-14739584588418642620

[pallid canyon]

almost everything multiCO stomps 90% of incarnons

[waxen pebble]

trying to make people mad or provoke negative reactions on purpose

[placid schooner]

Yeah thats just lying?

Which im not doing

[waxen pebble]

you said weapons need incarnons to be good, thats lying

[red path]

there is a ton of weapons that don't need incarnons to be insanely op

[severe plover]

i just think if you want to help a beginner like him, u need to be sure what u talking, this incarnon take is crazy...

[obsidian forum]

A good deal of melee weapons don’t have incarnons and are really good.

[red path]

weapons that do have incarnon adapters need them tho

[placid schooner]

Weapons that have them need them to be good

[waxen pebble]

idk why im trying to call someone out when their name is just incorrect, makima definitely did wrong things LOL

[severe plover]

lmao

[red path]

but you didn't specify that, it easy to read it as "all weapons need incarnons"

[placid schooner]

Yeah they obviously thought the weapon would be decent because its a prime but I just said its not because they obviously dont know about incarnons

[waxen pebble]

thats a more accurate statement

[severe plover]

so, write this to him, not just say that the weapon is "MR fodder"

[waxen pebble]

exactly

[placid schooner]

I mean it was for me

[waxen pebble]

"for me" wrap it up

[severe plover]

"for me", lmao

[placid schooner]

Bud I had nataruk when I got it tf is it supposed to do

New players just need nataruk and theyre golden

[obsidian forum]

Not sell it and figure out a build for it?

And some people might not like Nataruk

[waxen pebble]

not everyone is gonna like bows, i find bows extremely boring

[placid schooner]

True but you have to deal with it

[waxen pebble]

i only use nataruk for POE

[obsidian forum]

And I do. With my Burston, Toxocyst and Broken War.

I “deal with it” by ignoring its existence.

[leaden obsidian]

That’s not lying that’s bait

[severe plover]

lil bro thinks that everybody will play the game like him, lmao

[waxen pebble]

i feel like its a bit of both tbh

[placid schooner]

You get nataruk from just playing the game

[waxen pebble]

i can sense a meta slave when i see one

[severe plover]

AND?

[leaden obsidian]

Supply more bait please, bouta go fishing

[placid schooner]

You don't get another weapon as good as it by doing that

[waxen pebble]

LOL

[obsidian forum]

You get the same for Grimoire. Do you see people singing praise about that weapon?

[leaden obsidian]

nah kiddin, just got back from showerin so don’t know what the convo is about

[severe plover]

Just because you get Nataruk in early quests u forbidden from playing with other things?

[placid schooner]

Well you get it after nataruk

[obsidian forum]

And how about Umbra?

[placid schooner]

Yeah hes good

[obsidian forum]

You get him before, but I don’t see him used a bunch

[placid schooner]

Ive been using him the whole time so idk

[red path]

nataruk is from the most major quest that divides the story on before and after

[leaden obsidian]

[waxen pebble]

basically the person was telling someone braton prime is mr fodder and then went on saying weapons need incarnons to be better, later followed by adding that weapons with incarnons need them and so on, its been interesting

[severe plover]

OMG guys, we can't play another warframe plataform but Saryn with Sobek, because we can't play if not with the best option

🤡

[tidal plover]

I’m aware, it’s just the waiting.

[placid schooner]

I heard cavia is the second easiest standing to level up is this true

[obsidian forum]

Yeah, I just hit my 300 day and grabbed the Zenistar.

[leaden obsidian]

Interesting

[placid schooner]

I don't see how that's wrong

[obsidian forum]

Nah, they’re all a pain to do. Some are just more enjoyable

[waxen pebble]

obviously there are some gaps but those are the main points

[true kayak]

Grimoire isn’t nearly as good as nataruk

[placid schooner]

Entrati is very easy to do

[leaden obsidian]

Wrong, that’d be zariman(or is zariman the first, in which it’d be entrati family)

[true kayak]

Best quest weapon is the xoris though

[placid schooner]

You need an arcane tho 😔

[severe plover]

thats why is funny, u really think u right, lmao

[true kayak]

No, arcaneless xoris is still strong enough to carry through sp

[leaden obsidian]

Guys rhis is too much bait, I’m not going fishing for that long

[placid schooner]

Telling a new player a weapon is okay with something you need to wait weeks for and can't get is stupid

Im just honest to them

[severe plover]

say that the weapon its trash without saying that she "can" be good, its WAY more stupid, lil bro...

[waxen pebble]

best is subjective in a game like warframe (imo), when there is so many weapons and frames that output big dmg idk if i would say there is a "best" since there are quest weapons like nataruk and broken war which can also produce high dmg numbers, its all preference

[gusty turtle]

everyone knows the best weapon is the one i kill with

[leaden obsidian]

Wrong

[true kayak]

Xoris does more damage in a wider area

[gusty turtle]

and the worst one is the one that stole my top damage done

[waxen pebble]

you really arent tho, your spreading disinformation, to them if they dont have much it could be good for them, and it can be good, immediately writing it off because it cant baby you through missions like the nataruk can is not good avice

[restive berry]

okay... this Kuva Quartakk does feeling like Mini-gun(fired from hip) and Shotgun(Aim down)

[obsidian forum]

The Warframe community is one that prides itself on helping people. Not just pointing in one direction and say thats the place to go. At least, that’s how it’s been in my experience.

[true kayak]

It’s not preference, it’s kpm
Xoris is significantly higher than the other quest weapons

[tidal plover]

Also how on earth do you go about grinding annoying Railjack Materials like Nullstars if you feel like paper tissue in higher level areas still.

[placid schooner]

Xoris is kinda weird to play tho

[true kayak]

Not really

[severe plover]

so?

[leaden obsidian]

Wrong

[placid schooner]

It is on controller

[true kayak]

I play with controller plenty

[waxen pebble]

the xoris is def rlly good, i just avoid it since i dislike glaives

[true kayak]

Xoris is fine

[pallid canyon]

its perfectly fine on controller

[obsidian forum]

Btw, just curious. What’s your MR?

[pallid canyon]

skill issue for sure

[hushed marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[restive berry]

Did s/he still doing it?

[leaden obsidian]

5

[severe plover]

but now, you broking your argument...

[placid schooner]

13

[restive warren]

Is it time to say some cursed stuff yet?

[leaden obsidian]

Wrong

[placid schooner]

I unlocked sp and haven't finished story

[pallid canyon]

they lost all credibility when they started categorizing frames as “glass cannons” in a world where shield gate exists

[leaden obsidian]

Yes

[waxen pebble]

but how? i said that there isnt a best and that its more preference based (which i do believe)

[pallid canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-please-do-not-the-cat-gif-11013093716903899251

[leaden obsidian]

There’s a setting that makes your melee button your shooty button when your melee is out

[placid schooner]

Yeah I want that

[leaden obsidian]

Wrong

[waxen pebble]

wrong

[placid schooner]

Pressing b is making me claw

[leaden obsidian]

It’s some setting in the settings, I forgot what the setting name is called

[pallid canyon]

theres things that are just objectively better, that doesnt mean you have to use them

[red path]

equip melee, on kbm it's hold F (weapon switch key)

[restive warren]

If you clean your vacuum cleaner, does it make you a vacuum cleaner? :D

[pallid canyon]

I personally hate glaives so I refuse to use Xoris

[hollow bridge]

Melee with fire input

[lofty garden]

back buttons on controllers “fix” glaives

[leaden obsidian]

If you suck garbage off the floor, does it make you a vacuum

[placid schooner]

I use that

[severe plover]

idk man, its not just game knowledge, they way your mind is thinking its so bad, its crazy...

[restive warren]

[tidal plover]

How is one meant to pick Primed Sure Footed if it competes with Primed Shred etc

[lofty garden]

I have a profile just for glaives on my 8bitdo and DualShock controllers

[tribal fractal]

Bruh I spent 9 hours farming the damn death blossom, did a sortie and got this

[true kayak]

Hold melee button
Release
Press right stick
Everything dies

[hollow bridge]

Honestly not really😭

[true kayak]

Glaives are fine on controller

[severe plover]

its not make any sense, fr

[placid schooner]

Pressing sticks give you drift so I dont like doing that

[waxen pebble]

explain

[lofty garden]

you pick primed sure footed. shred comes up again

[restive warren]

What's the issue?

[placid schooner]

You need psf for the meme

[tidal plover]

I AM CONFUSED

[hollow bridge]

Tldr everything is useable, if you can’t make it work it’s lowkey a skill issue

[tidal plover]

I see

[restive warren]

Ah yeah the old skill issue comment

[hollow bridge]

Lemme hold that

[obsidian forum]

I took shred cos I needed it for a build more than I needed PSF

[lofty garden]

it is ever 200 days, so you don’t even need to wait another full year for primed shred

[restive warren]

0/10 on being constructive.

[severe plover]

@waxen pebble i marked the wrong guy

[waxen pebble]

ah okay, mb then

[placid schooner]

I have straight junk in my frames and theyre fine 🔥

[severe plover]

@placid schooner
You "think" something is the best based entirely on "your preference" and believe it's right to assert these ideas to others, this its NOT the way the world (and game) works...

[hollow bridge]

Scrollin up a bit, honestly no one’s really being constructive. Just kinda saying words😭

[restive warren]

Ya know

[hollow bridge]

Nope

[restive warren]

Fair point but also

How dare

[leaden obsidian]

Right

[placid schooner]

I dont think you should give white lies to people and i think you should be blunt

[hushed marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/shake-guinea-pig-gif-18384642

[placid schooner]

But sure

[restive warren]

He's already blunt enough as is

[hollow bridge]

Haven’t you just been saying people are “wrong”😭

[severe plover]

There's not much to say, the friend here just really thinks the best weapon in the game is Nataruk and everyone should only play with it...

[blissful scroll]

guys be real with me..how bad would it be if i miss on dread and hate

[leaden obsidian]

what kath said was the only right thing

[restive warren]

You can get it always "later" which might take a long while. :(

[severe plover]

its not "white lies" when u lying, what u smoking???

[waxen pebble]

it'll come back around, just not for a while, tho i recommend at least picking up hate

[blissful scroll]

ive been doing nodes for..4 hours now

[true kayak]

Wrong

[leaden obsidian]

Dreads incarnon is good, hates idk

[hollow bridge]

The humble 9 week wait

[leaden obsidian]

But you’ll have 2 months before they come back around anyway

[blissful scroll]

i just got told to go for hate and then dread

[restive warren]

Around 8 weeks, but don't push yourself too hard

[blissful scroll]

😭

[leaden obsidian]

Nah dread then hate

[severe plover]

with the mod, its really good, tho

[blissful scroll]

so dread or hate? whats it gonna be

[true kayak]

Hate is top ten melees easy

[leaden obsidian]

Both

[leaden obsidian]

Burning hate?

[severe plover]

yes

[waxen pebble]

you straight up said the weapon was mr fodder, thats not being blunt thats just being wrong

[blissful scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/toilet-paper-crazy-anime-gif-16647488

[placid schooner]

I wasn't talking about myself it was talking about telling a new player a weapon is worth investing in when youll get the nataruk later

[obsidian forum]

Hate is okay imo. but from what I’ve seen you’d need its augment Burning hate for a bunch of builds. So I’m trying to find something for it that skips over Burning Hate.

[true kayak]

Hate is very strong even without the augment

[hollow bridge]

Both good, I’m not big on melee but still id Rec hate first

[tidal plover]

Why not pick Shred?

[placid schooner]

Why do people say its only decent with the incarnon then

[leaden obsidian]

I can only speak about dread with its specific mod

[obsidian forum]

Nataruk. Is. Not. The. End. All. Be. All.

[blissful scroll]

crazy..i was crazy once..

[leaden obsidian]

Yall gonna keep arguin?

[true kayak]

Weapons that are good with incarnon aren’t mr fodder

[hushed marsh]

https://media.tenor.com/images/78e81757e90dc6044c4c307af556fc64/tenor.gif

[lofty garden]

because psf provides 100% anti-stagger. Makes many frames more enjoyable

[blissful scroll]

who wants to do nodes with me

[hollow bridge]

It’s warframe chat ofc

[leaden obsidian]

[lofty garden]

Nataruk is mid.

[blissful scroll]

i have like 1 and a half planets left

[leaden obsidian]

How many nodes you got left?

[hushed marsh]

everything is mr fodder. just play voruna

[blissful scroll]

im losing my mind

[placid schooner]

What if shes mr fodder too

[waxen pebble]

because they are speaking from a perspective of higher lvl missions/sp missions. You said this to someone who is presumably newer to the game

[severe plover]

The guys just asked help where he can farm the Weapon, u responded the weapon is just trash, how u still thinking u right? the worlds its not about you...

[restive berry]

....

[blissful scroll]

i havent even done my daily bounties

[hushed marsh]

the game is just mr fodder for real life

[restive berry]

still?

[tidal plover]

https://tenor.com/view/vector-despicable-me-oh-poop-oh-crap-uh-oh-gif-5975294534416110813

[true kayak]

Just play atlas
Don’t need weapons, just cast fist

[pallid canyon]

augments not needed

[placid schooner]

I mean theres still 6 hours

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[pallid canyon]

its just preferred for hybrid/tennokai setups

[blissful scroll]

and apparently it needs 3 hours to get both incarnons

[leaden obsidian]

I’ll jump on and run some nodes with you

[pallid canyon]

for lots of heavy spam setups the augments not preferred

[hushed marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dancing-moving-belly-cute-cat-gif-23536170

[blissful scroll]

THANK YOU MY SAVIOR

[obsidian forum]

Oh, okay. Good to know. Now I just need to find a build without it.

[placid schooner]

Yeah I was saying it in the lens of a new player

[restive berry]

hi and Is s/he still doing it? <_<;

[leaden obsidian]

Nah he’s done

[restive berry]

good

[leaden obsidian]

[fading needle]

hey hey yall, question. I'm trying to farm argon to try to unlock some more frames and weapons. Should I rush mot? Ive been seeing that its the best map to farm

[waxen pebble]

clearly not, you didnt even take into consideration he doesnt wanna use the nataruk

[severe plover]

hell naw, lmao

[blissful scroll]

thats the last planet i have to get funnily enough lol

[true kayak]

Do capture missions

[placid schooner]

I just predicted what they were thinking because braton is probably the first prime youll get and they probably wanted to finish the weapon because they assumed prime ment it was good

[severe plover]

you thinking about you too much, the guys just asked where he can farm

[blissful scroll]

im SO CLOSE

[placid schooner]

Ig

I shouldn't overthink things 😔

[obsidian forum]

The first prime I got was Acceltra and Akarius. I used them for about two weeks and then found something better. You know, the burston. With and without its incarnon

[leaden obsidian]

Earth, sedna, void, kuva fortress, zaeiman

[hollow bridge]

Xaku or limbo with range and do the capture, should pick up a few. If anything I can help if ya need

[blissful scroll]

no?

[leaden obsidian]

And the dojo

[blissful scroll]

u dont have to do zariman nor kuva

[true kayak]

Akarius is way better than burston without an incarnon

[leaden obsidian]

For sp, kuva fortress iirc is needed. Lemme doible check

[hushed marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/secret-gif-4440621

[obsidian forum]

The blast radius kept screwing with me so I stopped using them. Now I’m using the Toxocyst.

[placid schooner]

It is

[fading needle]

also one more question, should i make a hildryn or a saryn??

[blissful scroll]

apparently kuva is still needed ugh

[lofty garden]

hildryn

[hollow bridge]

Saryn imo

[true kayak]

Saryn

[leaden obsidian]

It’s not that bad

Toss me an invite

[restive berry]

<_< my first prime is Braton Prime.. my favorite rifle

[waxen pebble]

saryn

[placid schooner]

Guys should I actually build my frame

[severe plover]

carefull, the fiscal still in chat

[hushed marsh]

i miss u latron prime

nah jk you were always bad

[blissful scroll]

🫥

[placid schooner]

Nah im done with that

[hollow bridge]

Holy moly

[obsidian forum]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-face-palm-seriously-exasperated-gif-7304550

[blissful scroll]

sameeeee

[restive berry]

so? he will regret it if he try something so he will face...

[severe plover]

You can get 1 item to call the Kuva per week, right?

[restive berry]

https://klipy.com/gifs/wall-brick-UKi

[waxen pebble]

yo bro, never comment on whats mr fodder and what isnt ever again

[hollow bridge]

😭😭😭

[placid schooner]

Modding and mr dont have correlation

[hollow bridge]

They lowkey do

[hushed marsh]

I THINK

equilibrium is mr fodder

[severe plover]

Yeah, this guy its total ragebait, disgusting...

[hollow bridge]

Cause that build gave me whiplash

[severe plover]

what a waste of time

[true kayak]

If you don’t know how to mod how can you tell if a weapon is good

[placid schooner]

Weapon isnt frame

[waxen pebble]

ok then let me simplify, do not comment on what is good or bad ever again, especially with modding like THAT

no wonder nataruk is so good in your eyes

[placid schooner]

So youre saying im an idiot because I didnt want to spend platinum to mod my frame

[severe plover]

i lost my time in a chat with some loser, what i'm doing with my life...

[waxen pebble]

no correlation final boss holy

[placid schooner]

I mean i built it not terribly

[severe plover]

lets play, nice day for everybody

[placid schooner]

They said im a loser which is the same as calling someone an idiot

[tidal plover]

I’m just trying to wait for this to blow over as I’m immensely confused why I still feel like a wet paper tissue in higher level content even with what is on paper a good Nataruk Build etc

[waxen pebble]

im in agreement with that, yea, but it has nothing to do with spending plat for modding

[hushed marsh]

idk it's not that nice. i just choked on some water and i stubbed my toe earlier

[obsidian forum]

Hello. 800 hr player here, mr 19, haven’t spent a single piece of plat on upgrading Warframes. Just on cosmetics.

Warframe is not a pay-to-win. So don’t treat it that way.

[spark crest]

U bought plat?

[restive berry]

what about my build.. friendly remind this is basic build and balance stats unless there is good build exist

[leaden obsidian]

I can see me using coda sporothrix

[placid schooner]

Have you spend the plat to get prime warframes and weapons tho

[obsidian forum]

Nope, got it through selling prime parts

[tidal plover]

I AM SO FECKING SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING ARGUMENTS ERUPT HERE. Can we BLOCK the person causing them and just ignore them/move on?

[obsidian forum]

Nope. Busted my ass for those.

[spark crest]

During all ur gameplay never bought it?

[waxen pebble]

i'd say swap vitality for adaptation or smth

[true kayak]

Take off grace and vitality, she’s invisible and does a lot of cc

[obsidian forum]

Not once

[waxen pebble]

nah

[hollow bridge]

Or we can watch people argue over a weapon

[hushed marsh]

i have popcorn

[spark crest]

Respect same mindset here, feels more challenging

[spark bear]

which can be agrueably more entertaining

[restive berry]

Err that last slot meant for Adaptation

[tidal plover]

🤷 I’m just tired of it is all.

[placid schooner]

Im just using warframe market to my advantage

[waxen pebble]

i have found this extremely entertaining

[severe plover]

You don't need platinum to be smart, its just removing you head from u a** and learning how world and people works...

without offense, of course

just being real

[idle cape]

is warframe playable on an igpu

[true kayak]

Is this a weapon platform or caster build?

[placid schooner]

I think so

[waxen pebble]

still, get redirection and vitality outa there, not needed tbf

[true kayak]

Yes

[placid schooner]

Its low spec

2013 game

[idle cape]

great

[obsidian forum]

And I take pride in doing things myself. That’s why I spent 2 weeks getting Hammer Shot instead of spending 60p to get it.

[spark crest]

Wdym low spec

[idle cape]

you could of got 60p and a lot more in those 2 weeks instead

[spark crest]

I have 15 fps

[hushed marsh]

is the kuva ayanga a myth?

[restive berry]

Err balance no need be platform or caster..

[placid schooner]

You see id rather just grind corrupt mods and get 60p in like a hour

[obsidian forum]

Why spend money when I can just play a game I enjoy?

[placid schooner]

Work smarter not harder what can I say

[true kayak]

That’s not really an option
Are you using her 4 or not

[placid schooner]

Plat is free

[waxen pebble]

you spent 2 weeks getting hammershot? i got 2 in like 30 mins 😭 didnt know they were that difficult

[restive berry]

like i said before.. it's basic build

[true kayak]

Voruna’s 4 locks you out of weapons

[severe plover]

yeah, this is the way, unlucky for new players being here with guys like him with misinformation, but it is what it is...

[true kayak]

You either use it or you use a weapon
Pick one

[placid schooner]

So nobody told me what I should do for my build 🥀

[pallid canyon]

Vorunas all or nothing into 4 or melee

you cant effectively split for both

[obsidian forum]

My ass has the worst luck ever. Throughout all the time caliban prime relics were active I missed his System every single time. 10+ radiants and still nothing.

[restive berry]

I did use 4th time to time but not much

[waxen pebble]

because there is too much to tell you to do with it mate, you have some mods on there that i never ever seen before

[hollow bridge]

IMO I think rolling guard would be a better use of the slot since you have an invis ability, albeit it comes off after you breathe but regardless you don’t REALLY wanna be shot at so you should constantly be in and out of invis to make use of the crit bonus

[placid schooner]

Ig bro

Should I bring it to build chat

[severe plover]

just block, its ragebait 100%

[placid schooner]

He said hes fine with me

[true kayak]

It’s like a 1% chance from rotation A nightmare missions
Which aren’t spammable

[waxen pebble]

nah idm

[hushed marsh]

general chat, it's more suited for trolls

[placid schooner]

W

[waxen pebble]

wxcept for your name, that is pissing me off 😭

[placid schooner]

Im not a troll tho

[slender sparrow]

Just be a grol

Everyone wants you

[placid schooner]

A troll is someone who lies to piss people off
Im just overly honest with my opinions and replay to everyone's who replies to me

[restive berry]

Yes.. you're troll who live under bridge I kinda pity you most time since you don't know How Warframe work..

[obsidian forum]

It’s more fun to see someone be entirely, utterly, and hopelessly incorrect and then not listen when they are given feedback as to why they are incorrect.

But that’s just me.

[waxen pebble]

"overly honest" and you told someone that a decent rifle with an incarnon is mr fodder, bugger off mate ✌️ 😔

[true kayak]

Do you want to build for weapon platform or her 4?

[placid schooner]

Decent sounds like mr fodder to me

[placid schooner]

I kinda just use her for speed i have other frames cooking up that id rather use but everyone says is mid

All voruna has is her 2

And the speed

[hollow bridge]

That’s crazy

[waxen pebble]

oh brother it just continues

[true kayak]

No
She has her 1, which buffs melees by a lot
And her 3, which gives her infinite energy

And her 4, which can do decent damage if you build for it

[placid schooner]

So shes a melee frame

[true kayak]

Melee or caster

[waxen pebble]

chill the nataruke is gonna snap with you riding it like this

[severe plover]

Vadarya works well with Weak Point build?

[restive berry]

Incarnon is unique upgrade for weapons. Example: Braton shot normal way but with Incarnon transform it into Heat radius shot

[blissful scroll]

i just realized i havent even done this...

[hollow bridge]

Haven’t thought about that since release😭

[waxen pebble]

not the biggest thing to miss out on tbf, not this week atleast

[blissful scroll]

its very good for new players

[blissful scroll]

archon shard at the end..

[restive berry]

you need farm mats for Incarnon repeat if you try remove incarnon from itself weapon

[waxen pebble]

they can be good, rivens, boosters, arcanes, shards, etc

[waxen pebble]

only an orange, imo not missing out on much

[true kayak]

The rivens aren’t that good
The endo though

Oranges are nice for secondaries at least

[waxen pebble]

guess it depends what riven you get really

[restive berry]

other word you just waste their time and everything

[obsidian forum]

They had a built forma last week. I was stoked about that.

[dapper marsh]

Which arcane pack is the most profitable?

[hollow bridge]

Yeah I know but cannot be bothered, I capscade and do clan stuff

[waxen pebble]

valid

[true kayak]

Think fortuna has the highest average price, but those don’t sell much

[hollow bridge]

Ain’t it 1999s cause of hotshot

[true kayak]

Eidolon arcanes are always in demand

[hollow bridge]

^

[dapper marsh]

so eidolon or 1999?

[hollow bridge]

Eidolons the safe pick imo

[true kayak]

I’d go eidolon
Chance of legendary arcanes in 1999 is pretty low

[hollow bridge]

Yeah I gamba 13 packs and got a singular universal fallout

[unreal summit]

whats the mod that be put on claws to make it electric and activate archon stretch

[blissful scroll]

i alt tabbed for 15 seconds rip 😭

[hollow bridge]

A shocking touch?

[hushed marsh]

would I get a better chance at Travoride with Normal or Steel Path?

[teal dove]

is there any website or spreadsheet or other way to find out what are good riven rolls that are worth lots of plat?

[hollow bridge]

Or you talkin about voltaic strike

[slender sparrow]

Voltaic Lance
It's a good mod

[unreal summit]

no for claws(beasts) not for melee

[unreal summit]

nuh

[hollow bridge]

Shock collar

[normal stirrup]

There's shocking claws too

[blissful scroll]

welp idk where bigboy left rip

[hollow bridge]

yeah just seen that one, ty^^

[restive berry]

also umm There is reason I don't build my Voruna Prime between Paltform and Caster bcuz Im out of forma... Plus im busy to focus on my weapons over my frame

[red path]

I made a pretty good build with just 1 forma

[restive berry]

also can anyone remind me again.. where i find rolling guard mod? i forgot

[red path]

arbitrations shop

[restive berry]

oh

thank

[leaden obsidian]

[leaden obsidian]

no, arbitration drop rotation

[leaden obsidian]

Idk, said couldn’t join cause session was full

[red path]

I just put polarity into random slot, then swapped it with aura polarity

[restive berry]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dungeong-17

[leaden obsidian]

ig it’s in arbitration shop too

[restive berry]

it does in shop

[red path]

everything you can get from mission, you can get in shop, except ayatans

[blissful scroll]

huh weird

[leaden obsidian]

I came to the shop to confirm, could’ve sworn it was drop reward only

[restive berry]

ah

[true kayak]

I definitely bought it

From the shop

[leaden obsidian]

Imma figure out how to build tenet quanta

[red path]

it don't drop from arbi missions

you can only buy it in shop

[normal stirrup]

They added a lot of things to the shop last year, like adaptation

That was only a reward drop

-# though I think rolling guard was always in the shop

[summer temple]

all drop rewards were added to the shop anyway
most notably pistoleer

[red path]

you probably confusing it with adaptation mod that was only from drops, but got added to shop recently

[normal stirrup]

Isleweaver is almost 1 year old now

[restive berry]

ugh.. i don't have enough to buy that Rolling Guard oh well back to Rage murder my Lich just mock me too much

[red path]

it feels like yesterday 😭

[summer temple]

that shit dropped in JUNE???

I thought it was like september for sure

[placid schooner]

I lowkey wanna build hildryn is she good

Doesnt she fly and nuke everything or som

[normal stirrup]

The strongest right now

[red path]

Update 38.6 (2025-05-21)
Arbitration rotation rewards (excluding Omni Forma) have been added to the Arbitration store (Arbiters of Hexis in the Relay) to provide players an easier path to these items via Vitus Essence

[normal stirrup]

So much so she will almost definitely be nerfed on the near future

[summer temple]

she already has, indirectly

[placid schooner]

Dang they nerf things?

[normal stirrup]

Did they fix the enervate bug or something?

[summer temple]

the enervate inherit one was fixed yea

[normal stirrup]

Strange, I got it with Dante yesterday

[red path]

they just fix bugs, one of which made hildryn absolute OP

[normal stirrup]

Not to make them unplayable but just on the same level of the others

[narrow lantern]

is farming galvanized mods and maxing them out before selling an efficient way to farm platinum?

[normal stirrup]

Main thing about hildryn is that she received buffs directly or indirectly almost every update last year

[placid schooner]

I thought they would only nerf/buff on release or release of a prime or when they get augments

[red path]

they mostly do nerfs to prevent afk strategies

[summer temple]

and then there was the ambassador "buff"

[red path]

like how they nerfed arcane persistence

[normal stirrup]

And then the biggest one came with the old peace, the arcane that converts ability strength into max shields

[summer temple]

if you can farm out the endo and credits fast enough? sure

[normal stirrup]

Which means absurd damage with her augment

[normal stirrup]

And disruptive things for the other players, like slam was

[narrow lantern]

My another question is how long does it take to find a buyer. Because afaik farming a galvanized mod yourself and maxing it out won't take much effort

[placid schooner]

So is she mid then

[arctic pumice]

Sell or dog part?

[summer temple]

if you're on switch? might take a while
if not? probably fairly quick

[normal stirrup]

How can anything from what I said imply that

[narrow lantern]

Oh does it have decent number of buyers? interesting

[elfin gale]

Think I should go with Grim Fury or Brutal Tide for the Coda Hirudo?

[placid schooner]

You said she was nerfed

[summer temple]

galvanized chamber (max) has around 60-100 daily sales on wfm

[placid schooner]

Which obviously implies that

[normal stirrup]

Not me

[narrow lantern]

Oh damn interesting

[summer temple]

a bug which she could abuse was fixed
she's no longer gamebreakingly overpowered
she's still good

[round moat]

is there any way to get platinum somewhat quickly? im crafting wisp prime and i dont want to wait the 3 days for the craf

[normal stirrup]

I said she got buffed every update

They didn't revert the buffs

[summer temple]

trading
don't waste plat on craft speedup

[normal stirrup]

Don't use platinum to speed up, just wait

[final vector]

went to check my mastery progress. then i noticed the little shit on the right

[round moat]

3 whole days to wait is a lot tbf im tired of always waiting

[red path]

she was nerfed from broken broken broken absolute broken, back to just OP nuker that don't give a f about most eta/eda modifiers

[summer temple]

what am I meant to see

[red path]

how is that mid?

[restive berry]

https://klipy.com/gifs/here-we-go-again-gta-2

[placid schooner]

You said she was nerfed twice so

[final vector]

man in the wall

[normal stirrup]

3 days pass like nothing playing this game

[summer temple]

ah

[summer temple]

twice?
no?
once and it wasn't even a direct nerf

[normal stirrup]

Just know that she is strong, very strong

That's what matters

[red path]

(just for lulz) where I said that?

[placid schooner]

Oh I thought there was a comma after the third broken

[restive berry]

<_<.. don't bother with him... he just troll and ragebait..last time he said Nekros Prime is MR fodder, and he said Braton Prime with Incarnon is just meh but MR fodder too

[obsidian forum]

As someone who has recently been maining Hildryn, she is not mid or bad.

She’s a fantastic room/tile clearer

[red path]

well, if you knew what it was like, you wouldn't be saying this I guess, so you just saying random irrelevant stuff about frame you don't know

[narrow lantern]

does he got a nice name

[obsidian forum]

Got me through The Guilty

[restive berry]

also he said Nekros is useless e_e;

[obsidian forum]

Not just Nekros. All looters frames.

[red path]

I now have doubts he plays the game

[narrow lantern]

btw if the MR requirement for zarr is 15, then is it the same for kuva weapons or no restrictions?

[red path]

since looting is the main plot device

[restive berry]

seriously? did he said all looter frame is useless?

[placid schooner]

No just nekros

I haven't used the others so I cant shit on them

[normal stirrup]

These two things combined with the fact she can have 10k shields or more very easily are the main reason she's strong now

[obsidian forum]

You trashed on Khora for quite a bit.

[placid schooner]

No?

[restive berry]

https://klipy.com/gifs/why-30

[placid schooner]

If i read nekros ability right it only works on dead things?

[restive berry]

Khoras is looter frame if you have her augment mod

[red path]

at this point I'll just ignore this convo, and your opinion, sorry

[obsidian forum]

No. Every time something dies, Desecrate triggers, making them drop more loot.

[placid schooner]

Oh I thought it just made everyone in his zone drop more loot

[normal stirrup]

And if you're not killing enemies that's a build issue

[obsidian forum]

It affects living things but triggers on their death.

[placid schooner]

I mean theyre usually not that clumped up

Like 10 at once maybe

[obsidian forum]

Build for range

[placid schooner]

I did

[normal stirrup]

They are if you get the tools for it

[obsidian forum]

Yellow shards

[normal stirrup]

Nautilus, pull, scyotid

[restive berry]

yea bcuz Nekros is fk Necromancer type! what else you think all of his ability is involve dead theme?

[red path]

yes, when anything kill mobs they have 60% chance to drop loot twice if they died inside the desecrate aura range of nekros, up to 3 corpses per second

[placid schooner]

So i need the one warframe also on the team that sucks in people like the endo farm arena method?

[fading needle]

for saryn, do i need this kuva sobek? its recommended in the guide and seems the best by far

[restive berry]

not really any aoe weapon work but you need acid shell mod for sobek make itself AoE

[rapid meadow]

primordial cubes

[normal stirrup]

Don't really need that, you can subsume pull

[placid schooner]

Whats wrong with being skeptical about something ill need to spend materials on

[normal stirrup]

Eventually you will want to have all the warframes for mastery purposes anyway so worrying about spending materials is irrelevant

[placid schooner]

Nope
Theres no need to buy reactors and augments for every warframe

[restive berry]

yea. I mean we have Normal and Prime/Umbra warframe

[placid schooner]

Ig they all basically use the same 20 nods

[restive berry]

but themself Prime/Umbra is upgrade ver of normal due to their stats and different mod symbol

[normal stirrup]

Reactors are fine honestly

[obsidian forum]

Only put forma in the frames you want to keep.

[rapid meadow]

just pick the roster you like, juice them up and don't bother with the rest aside from mr

[restive berry]

also Prime/Umbra gain one more passive.. regain energy when you pass by Orokin orb

[placid schooner]

You dont know if a frame is good or not without investment sadly

[placid schooner]

I mean theres the extra slot thing

Idk if its for all warframes tho

[obsidian forum]

? You do though? You can make very rudimentary builds and be perfectly fine with how they play. Because guess what. Everything is good. And is only limited by how you want to play the game (except for the stug)

[leaden obsidian]

For the tenet quanta, blast elec or viral rad

[red path]

after just 2 years I got enough and warframe exilus adapters for all frames, without spending plat on them

[restive berry]

do he aware that he can keep all warframe whole time.... as collection?

[placid schooner]

I dont wanna spend 800 plat on slots

The bad ones all going to be fed

[restive berry]

EXCEPT PRIME/UMBRA!

[tidal plover]

Is this STILL GOING ON

[obsidian forum]

My guy. You get them for free in nightwave.

[placid schooner]

I mean you cant feed them

[placid schooner]

3 a year

[tidal plover]

JESUS CHRIST

[placid schooner]

I mean its not that hard to get plat

But like

Id rather spend it as i go

[obsidian forum]

Warframe isn’t a sprint. It’s a marathon.

Take. Your. Time.

[placid schooner]

Its a sprint im far behind others with my day count

[placid schooner]

I dont think doing nothing is fun

Like youre telling me to enjoy the scenery?

[restive berry]

so.. you know you can count How many warframe exist you can stop at that number I count is 61 warframe, 61 slot that it

[obsidian forum]

Yeah. The level design is nice. And the music as well.

[placid schooner]

Yeah ik

Im running out of stuff for helminth tho 😔

[red path]

I have not paid a thing with real money, been playing for just 2 years, and I have almost everything this game have, even some fashion items

[placid schooner]

I never said you had to

I mean I think you kinda want to at the start ngl if you get a discount

Because youll have no slots but thats just me

[red path]

so, it's just a matter of time, there is no real investment in this game beside your time that you spend having fun

[restive berry]

plus I feed normal warframe to helminth then replace with prime to keep so yea....and I keep normal warframe until they get prime ver

[leaden obsidian]

Curse this game. I almost had a r1 sister of parvos

[placid schooner]

Thats just common sense and a nothing burger statement

[leaden obsidian]

This game trolled me

[placid schooner]

Did it bug you

[red path]

I only once got r1 lich

[leaden obsidian]

No, it told me the requiem I already knew

[restive berry]

so what about you.....? it feel like you don't have any common sense

[leaden obsidian]

I atabbed it when it spawned, I got the first one right. Then after leaving the mission that’s the one it told me

[placid schooner]

Why?

[red path]

at least you also know it's position now

[restive berry]

Warframe meant FARMING and have fun, no need rush and relax like you own garden and grow flower in peace

[placid schooner]

So yes then?

I didnt get the one I needed from a requim relic which took like 30 min to get so ill just ignore the lich

[restive berry]

then they will steal your stuff FOREVER!!!!

https://klipy.com/gifs/forever-sandlot-2

[leaden obsidian]

No, it didn’t bug

[restive berry]

well except Sister just steal credit and Coda Lich don't take anything

[leaden obsidian]

Also tenet quanta is kinda strong

[placid schooner]

I dont wanna spend another 30 minutes to get a req modi dont have 🥀

Dont I need to do that 3 times

[restive berry]

https://klipy.com/gifs/warframe-farming-intensifies

[leaden obsidian]

I wanna throw 5 forma into tenet quanta but I don’t have 5 to throw in

[restive berry]

Farming is endless and forever! Why you play warframe if you hate farming

[leaden obsidian]

So is robbing people of plat

[restive berry]

that too..

https://klipy.com/gifs/wait-what-one-kikc-man

Hold on.. What you mean?

[placid schooner]

A guy overplayed 2 plat for an item I got yesterday and I didnt tell him

I might be the next nef

[leaden obsidian]

r3 sister of parvos

[placid schooner]

Do I just ran up by killing them over and over

[leaden obsidian]

Yes

Tbh it doesn’t matter the adversary’s rank

It’ll get nuked regardless

Imma just use an ultimatum

[restive berry]

I hate my Kuva Lich.. He fk troll me bcuz he won't spawn for three mission while he is in Furious phase

[leaden obsidian]

Oof

[restive berry]

until rescues mission he show up

[leaden obsidian]

Time to finish my sister of parvos and spawn an elec quanta

[final vector]

i was left behind by someone in the railjack while were hunting kuva liches

[restive berry]

yea when he spawn near me then grab me and throw me down ALMOST kill by that!

[leaden obsidian]

Want me to come nuke it

[austere fossil]

Can Nekros's shadows proc status if summoned with Theorem Infection?

[restive berry]

nah it's fine I try get him spawn and kill for first reqium mod(turn out it's correct)

[hushed marsh]

reminds me of when i got my Kuva Bramma or Zarr liches. they just demolish me

[restive berry]

oh yea that remind one thing surpised me is Sister

when you fail assassin them they just counterattack and grab you then german suplex you

that happen to me for first time I went "WTF? She just German suplex me?!"

[hushed marsh]

that makes me want a steel path option for sisters and liches

its so boring most of the time

[leaden obsidian]

True

[tidal plover]

Ya know that Forest Nekros ya made?

I know it has the Irkila Bundle in it, was there any other Plat items in it?

[hushed marsh]

damn, uh. quite a bit unfortunately. protovyre chest, heartwood arms/legs, voruna prime accessories syandana

[leaden obsidian]

Time to spawn another quanta sister

[tidal plover]

All gucci man. Just ugh.

[unreal summit]

HOW THE ***** CAN I FIX THE GLITCH WHERE I DONT SEE PEOPLE IN DOJOOOOOO

[hushed marsh]

hmmm

[tidal plover]

Does anyone have Primed Shred?

[gray pawn]

when is the dante skin coming

[restive berry]

JUGG APP? JUAP? JUMP!

[tidal plover]

Still tryna figure out what to do ya feel me @hushed marsh

[hushed marsh]

yep, fashion is no easy matter

[tidal plover]

I’m aware

[gray pawn]

cheap*

[hushed marsh]

protea prime's theme song is so good

[proper obsidian]

It’s un tradeable

[tidal plover]

Just wondering if there is a better mod I can use whilst keeping the 0.8 Fire Rate I have on my Nataruk

[proper obsidian]

Vital acceleration is the best fire rate mod

[leaden obsidian]

Base shred

Bot vital accel better

[tidal plover]

I know, just wondering how big it changes Nataruk’s Fire Rate as I can’t really hit perfect shots outside of Base Shred

[tidal plover]

^ @leaden obsidian

[proper obsidian]

Skill issue tbh

[unreal summit]

..

[proper obsidian]

But ye like I said just use vital acceleration

[proper obsidian]

It’s just them not loading in right away

[tidal plover]

No. Shut the hell up kindly.

[hushed marsh]

anyone know how to 'close' a contract on warframe.market? all i can see is how to remove it

[unreal summit]

its me

[proper obsidian]

Wdym

[proper obsidian]

?

[unreal summit]

the people are not showing

while we both be inside

[proper obsidian]

There should be like a trash bucket in the right corner

[untold path]

I got Voidrig lets go

[tidal plover]

I’m not going to use Vital Acceleration if it inherently makes it harder to use Nataruk and thus hit perfect shots

[proper obsidian]

If u go into your contracts on your profile just click that and it deletes then

[hushed marsh]

sounds like a server issue. the person might be in china while you are in north america. i solve this by joining the party while still in the orbiter and THEN going to the dojo

[proper obsidian]

^

[unreal summit]

no
i tried

its happening 90% of the time

LIKE WHY WHEN I FOUND A GOOD GAME THE FKN WEIRD GLITCHES ARE HUNTING ME

[proper obsidian]

So then don’t use fire rate at all then if it’s a problem but ye it really just sounds like a skill issue

[hushed marsh]

yeah but this implies there is a way to 'close' the contract and have it as a record on your profile still. or something? idk, i just removed it, no biggie.

[novel cobalt]

does follie's death orb provide energy to prime allies that walk near it?

her prime form, whenever it comes, might have modless self-sustain if it does

[leaden obsidian]

Takes it from 1.67 to 0.42 charge time

[proper obsidian]

Oh I don’t know tbh I think that’s for like auctions and stuff

[tidal plover]

Yikes.

[hushed marsh]

ah I see. Thank you

[tidal plover]

What about with Critical Delay @leaden obsidian if I may ask.

[leaden obsidian]

Crit delay doesn’t do anything for firerate

Lowers it bringing it to 1.67, which is where I got my numbers from

[tidal plover]

Because I want it slightly faster than the draw time it comes with by default?

[tidal plover]

Yes it does? HUH

[safe creek]

it lowers it what are you waffling about

[placid schooner]

1.- what?

[leaden obsidian]

Damn no one can read, I corrected myself 1 message below

[placid schooner]

One typo and youre cooked

[trim bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[safe creek]

https://tenor.com/view/girlboss-gaslight-gatekeep-girlboss-gaslight-gatekeep-love-live-gif-22512467

[placid schooner]

Crazy how follie still covers up 30% of the screen

[hushed oriole]

it doesn't*
*because it's so insignificant relative to the 200%+ crit chance it doesn't really matter

[safe creek]

gg🥀

[safe creek]

20% less dps is not an insignificant amount

[restive berry]

dammit i forgot how fun this Trumna Prime is.. it's really versatile

[placid schooner]

Im pretty sure your fov is larger outside of the orbitor

[placid schooner]

A good prime without an incarnon?!?!

[restive berry]

do you use normal Trumna?

[placid schooner]

No

[hushed oriole]

Incarnons are just an optional upgrade to weapons

Like the Burston Prime + Incarnon

[safe creek]

*an option that should always be taken in every weapon that gets them

[leaden obsidian]

Crit delay has -firerate, which increases how long it takes to draw the bow back and send the arrow towards enemies so yes it does, I corrected myself 1 message beliw the one you replied to. The basics is higher firerate means bad, lower firerate means good on bows cause that’s the charge time(bow draw speed in this case)

[placid schooner]

Most weapons that have incarnons got them for a reason

[hushed oriole]

also tbh I feel it depends on tthe weapon, like the burston doesn't really detriment from this

[tidal plover]

My bad for missing your correction

[leaden obsidian]

Damn sucks this has no ephemera.

[hushed oriole]

I mean it DOES but compared to the opportunity of getting +50 crit chance and bringing it to next tier, it's so much extra damage for a slight downside

[restive berry]

Trumna is Mausolon archgun in primary ver but.. WHEN THAT Sepulcrum Prime release? WHEN?!

[trim bobcat]

Honestly. Fire rate dont matter much

You have aim

[hushed oriole]

it kinda does? I mean the bubonico is agonizing w/o it

so slowww

[leaden obsidian]

On bows it does

[restive berry]

Fire rate affect charge shot..

[leaden obsidian]

Most weapons can get away with -fr

[tidal plover]

Just to confirm, this is with the lower Fire Rate right?

[leaden obsidian]

Yes it’s with crit delay

Imma start recommending people get tenet quanta, damn this thing is good

[tidal plover]

Yeah thats way too fast for me

Bugger

[leaden obsidian]

Normal shred is 30%

Puts it just slightly above what crit delay takes away

Bringing it down to 0.83s charge time

[tidal plover]

Yeah thats about perfect but I got told Normal Shred is bad on Nataruk so ya know

[placid schooner]

The Nataruk incident

I should probably get rifle elementalist now that I think about it

[restive berry]

huh.. Why i have Stabilizer mod on my Trumna Prime? I can't remember why...i did remove it and test it and seem there is no recoil..

[hushed oriole]

because your former self was silly

[tidal plover]

^ Is this true or can I ignore it?

[leaden obsidian]

Damn ninjase doesn’t have a tenet quanta build

[restive berry]

i check wiki it say Trumna Prime have High recoil...

[hushed marsh]

i'd think its the same as the normal quanta. i dont think there was an extra mechanic?

[tidal plover]

I’m confused

[leaden obsidian]

He doesn’t have a normal quanta build either

[trim bobcat]

Does Archon Hunt reset at weekly time?

[gray pawn]

yes

[trim bobcat]

Ooh, i still have time to finish Veilbreaker and unlock it

[tidal plover]

I’m really confused

[restive berry]

Ohh... nvm then just found out why I have Stabilizer on Trumna Prime... turn out Primed Shred give this Trumna Prime high fire rate make it's recoil increase

[gray pawn]

why

[hushed oriole]

you can move your mouse downwards to compensate

[tidal plover]

Got told Shred was bad on Nataruk but its the only Fire Rate Mod I can use whilst still being able to hit Perfect Shots

[gray pawn]

idk never used naturak

[proper obsidian]

You know it’s a bow right you can just hold it and wait to shoot….

[hushed marsh]

why is it bad on nataruk?

[untold path]

Do you think DE is adding more Necramechs soon?

[gray pawn]

pls no

[restive berry]

o_o whoever told you is lie, it increase Fire rate that affect charge time I have Primed Shred on it, it can rapid fire per charge shot

[untold path]

Why not

Voidrig is fun to use

[gray pawn]

because maxxing them is so so so much pain

[placid schooner]

the getting part

[untold path]

Fair

[gray pawn]

i would say second most evil grind after maxxing kdrives

[tidal plover]

No no no, if I have any other Fire Rate Mod on aside from Normal Shred I can’t hit Perfect Shots on Nataruk O_O

[gray pawn]

the getting part isnt even the evil part formaing them 5 times is the evil part

[untold path]

Affinity boost and survival lua missions

[untold path]

K Drives are evil

I mean, I like using them more than archwings in open worlds

But whats that farming lmao

[gray pawn]

k drives are atleast semi fun when i did them some random race trying to get highscore

[untold path]

Its way easier to get a Necramech before a Kdrive

[restive berry]

Well still you don't need perfect shot often though.. it's perfect shot is good and hit hard but don't forget Shred give punch thru..

[gray pawn]

what i want is a warframe with an exalted necramech

[untold path]

Exalted?

[placid schooner]

magical girl warframe when

[gray pawn]

like yarelis kdrive

[brittle spire]

I might have too much argon given its properties…

[untold path]

º

[restive berry]

Yareli exist

[untold path]

Tell me you've got things wich requires that

[tidal plover]

@restive berry You get me?

[placid schooner]

idk i dont have her prime yet

[obsidian forum]

Go look @ her prime trailer

[brittle spire]

I don’t ;-;

[gray pawn]

cool concept would be a tiny warframe like nookos sporling form and you pilot a necramech

[untold path]

Builded before or blueprints

[placid schooner]

yes like the fortnite skins

[proper obsidian]

U can always feed them to ur hungry helmith

[gray pawn]

yes😭

[restive berry]

yea I do get you! but you don't need perfect shot often plus it take some practice to timing to pull perfect shot

[placid schooner]

ask him how much damage he does with nataruk

[restive berry]

there is other bow need perfect shot too

[restive berry]

nope

[placid schooner]

why 😔

[gray pawn]

is steel essence stil the fastes way to get kuva btw? i need to do like 500+ riven rolls again

[untold path]

Dunno, I like the concept a corpse piloting a Mekha. I guess thats why its called Nec-cramech

[placid schooner]

how much is it per reroll

isnt like like 6k

[tidal plover]

Hence why I am wondering if using something like Normal Shred even if there are mods that can gimme faster Fire Rate are fine?

[gray pawn]

3.5k

[untold path]

How much is the ammount of average Kuva use? I have 14k rn

Kind of

[gray pawn]

40ish to get a good roll 200 ish to get a god roll

[restive berry]

there is three mod that increase Fire rate: Shred, Vigilante Fervor and Vile Acceleration

[gray pawn]

so about 700k? kuva per god roll

[old olive]

Guess who got Perigale Prime Barrel 😎

[untold path]

Whats your favorite weapon

[tidal plover]

Yeah I tried the other two and just couldn’t get the timing

[untold path]

Me not for sure

[gray pawn]

kuva bramma torid and stug

[restive berry]

oh

[tidal plover]

Hence Normie Shred

[untold path]

Stug

🐴

[old olive]

I'm stugging it, and by it I mean..well

the stug

[gray pawn]

barely scrapping 200 damage lmfao

[restive berry]

wait.. How much fire rate on your Bow? just check

[tidal plover]

0,83

[restive berry]

with Crit delay mod on bow?

[fair flame]

so iv been told you can take a rank zero frame with no forma in to ESO if you pay a forma.

LIKE HOW dose that make any sence

[tidal plover]

Yes

[restive berry]

ah..

[tidal plover]

Whats wrong?

[restive berry]

it's fine but did you watch charge gauge when you use bow? if you see yellow color then let it go

[tidal plover]

Yeah I do my best to release then.

[restive berry]

yea it take some practice to master perfect shot but Nataruk is not only one bow that has Perfect shot though. Cinta(Duviri Bow) have perfect shot

[tidal plover]

I see

Normal Shred is fine right?

[restive berry]

yea but if you get Primed then replace normal Shred with Primed

[tidal plover]

Drops it to 0.42 and that is WAY too fast

For me to get Perfect Shots

[restive berry]

I have .59 sec charge time on my Nataruk

I have Primed Shred and Crit Delay on my Nataruk that it

[summer temple]

though on that one fully charged is more popular

[raw marten]

can Nautilus Prime use both Cordon and Coolant Leak at the same time?
I'm trying to make a setup on it for a Limbo/Stahlta build

[tidal plover]

Oh I got told that it was 0.42

[restive berry]

yea it is but you can do rapid fire everytime fully charge shot but perfect shot let those bow hit hard and infinte punch thru and create big AoE

[gray pawn]

if only sc was heat

[summer temple]

tbf we don't know what the incarnon will be
maybe SC might be valuable

[hushed oriole]

Can't tell what's better here

[gray pawn]

im so hyped

[summer temple]

right better, but neither's good

[hushed oriole]

got it

[gray pawn]

i would take left but both are bad

[hushed oriole]

yeah I'm aware they're both terrible that's why I'm on my 36th reroll

[gray pawn]

(i hate faction mods)

[restive berry]

Err it's .48 without Crit delay

[hushed oriole]

I'll stick with left ig..?

[gray pawn]

jstroll more

[hushed oriole]

HOUGH

not bad not amazing

[left forum]

how u guys deal with techroot babau eximus on pvpve missions?

[gray pawn]

see there you go

[summer temple]

ngl it is bad

[gray pawn]

what are you even going for

ig cc cd and ms?

[hushed oriole]

yeahh

[summer temple]

lowkey not worth rolling a riven for a 0.5 dispo gun

[gray pawn]

fair

[hushed oriole]

it makes it all the more rewarding to get a godroll

[summer temple]

copium

[tough hearth]

wich companion is better for spreading status effects ? nautilus prime or panzer vulpaya or whatever the name is

[gray pawn]

it would still be worse than a normal mod no

[tidal plover]

Still a bit worried it’ll be too fast for me

[hushed oriole]

it saves on modding slots so I can put something better

[gray pawn]

nautilus ;)

[hushed oriole]

wait shit I should probably go for status %s instead

[summer temple]

try them out and see
use the highest one you're comfortable with

[hushed oriole]

whatever it's funnier

it's very funny

[placid schooner]

how much is the corrosive really gonna be doing

[summer temple]

panzer only spreads viral
sentinels (with tazicor) spread more than that
diriga's the best primer out of the sentinels tho

[hushed oriole]

I think I'm satisfied with my new riven

though it deals less crit dmg it adds blast

blast is funny

[tough hearth]

how do i get diriga?

[summer temple]

check wiki, idk

[tidal plover]

I did try ‘em out and that was the one I felt most comfy with

[summer temple]

then use that

[pallid canyon]

cant tell because you’ve hidden your stat sheet?

[tidal plover]

Market

[tough hearth]

this diriga?

[placid schooner]

oh alright

[pallid canyon]

right now scroll over to SC and it will tell exactly how much % of that is allocated to corrosive

(before aptitude)

[placid schooner]

this

[pallid canyon]

your status chance is divided between your moddedn elements and ips based on their numerical value

roughly 42.4% of your damage instances should proc corrosive

its that simple

[placid schooner]

so its fine then?

[pallid canyon]

i mean yeah

i wouldnt mod for corrosive on nataruk personally

but that % is to be expected

[placid schooner]

i was just using the same build but without the toxic thinf

is that better

[pallid canyon]

i would personally use either blast or viral

one stack of viral > one stack of corrosive in most instances

you arent shitting out status procs with it

[placid schooner]

nataruk should be killing in one shot

and shouldent be stacking

[pallid canyon]

which is why you want blast

[hushed oriole]

uuUGH

why does it reduce crit damage

it would be so awesome and cool but it reduces CRIT damage

[pallid canyon]

tri bane + negative crit dmg

🤑

[hushed oriole]

do I take it or just give up

it DOES have a lot of natural multishot afterall but

[placid schooner]

i only have space for a 15% mod so would that work

[pallid canyon]

i personally wouldnt roll bubonico at all

its coda variant has a terrible riven dispo

If you do roll it you’re just looking for the generic dual element or elem/ms/cd

[hushed oriole]

got it

[pallid canyon]

iirc the desire element is elec on it

[hushed oriole]

well I took the latter because it has multishot+heat, and although it's a -0.5x crit damage

it makes up for +4 multishot

[pallid canyon]

it definitely doesnt make up for it

[hushed oriole]

fair

welp back to rerolling for not that

[pallid canyon]

if your riven has to be modded extra to compensate for a negative then its bad