gameplay-discussion

[lyric lotus]

lets go to Tyana Pass

[summer temple]

indeed
I couldn't make him look good without it

[tidal plover]

Welp. That brings me back to ma issue of needing many platinums

[lyric lotus]

grind em

[restive warren]

Wait another year so my burn out on that content wears off

Then I'll probably go just for fun

Or when I figure out how to make Jade float faster

[tidal plover]

I am trying I assure you

[lyric lotus]

i am never going back to that mission...ever

[tidal plover]

Sorry @lyric lotus I feel bad.

[lyric lotus]

for what?

[tidal plover]

Being a jerk and repeating myself constantly

[lyric lotus]

you only making yorself feel bad about it.

[woven bloom]

Parkour velocity isnt it?

[summer temple]

probably movespeed like okina

[restive warren]

Only for the weird dolphin flop when you dodge while flying I believe

[restive warren]

That's worth a shot, I'll try when I get the chance, thank you!

[tidal plover]

It’s just I don’t wanna go into 1999 underprepared but I also don’t know what the bloomin’ hell to focus on basically. Yes I have Steel Path, no I don’t feel ready for it but I am also in dire need of more Forma which means I need Orokin Cells which means I need to have a Farming Frame to slightly boost my odds which loops back to Nekros

[lyric lotus]

explained it several times, wont gonna do it again, look up you will find where or what to look at.

[woven bloom]

Hmm. Infested Mobility maybe?

[red path]

back in my beginners days, I just used helene on saturn every time I wanted to rank up new gear (or after using forma)
never ever since unlocking that node i was short on orokin cells for anything, now after getting to mr30 i started using so/eso, but still sitting at 2k orokin cells
also plastids too

[shy wedge]

Movement speed works for sure since it works on Hildryn

[restive warren]

I'll try it for science but other than my build for Descendia I generally don't use subsume on Jade

[shy wedge]

Also says mspd is additive in wiki

[restive warren]

aaaah

[coarse basin]

oh yea the pity takes longer than the farm, idk what they were thinking there

[lyric lotus]

yep the voruna farm is Trumna farm all over again...

[restive warren]

Yeaaaah

[lyric lotus]

and i hated that farm, now it's making me hate this farm as well.

[summer temple]

and seeing I spent like 4 hours farming him
and only got 1/4 parts
and I'm nowhere close to pity
you can see why I consider him awful

[woven bloom]

Jus put charm on a smeeta kavat and hope it vomits some up.

[tidal plover]

[tidal plover]

I don’t have a Smeeta Kavat

[coarse basin]

yep. best to just turn your brain off and farm one bounty at a time. do you have the bp at least?

[restive warren]

Please work on that today if possible

[summer temple]

no clue, I'm waiting for one of my buddies to hop on to keep me company lol

[tidal plover]

What makes a Smeeta Kavat so good exactly?

[static jasper]

Gives a pretty crazy buff from 1 aug iirc, that's a nice thing.

[tidal plover]

I’d be willing to help but I need to do some stuff and get my shit together before hopping back on.

[shy wedge]

I farmed for Arbucep and got Nokko while doing it. Both item took like 4 hours.

[restive warren]

Actually, I'll do you one better. I'll make it a quest, get a smeeta and I'll give you:

[restive warren]

It's a decent loot pet.

[tidal plover]

I believe I already have Tek Enhance and Resourceful

[restive warren]

Hmm

[red path]

for rare resource farming, it's actually better to run spare parts with manifold bond

[restive warren]

Don't you need to build a sentinel just for that tho?

[tidal plover]

So it’s better to stick with my Nautilus Prime

[red path]

unless you have smeeta with charm

[restive warren]

Or a sentinel weap, I don't remember

[restive warren]

I don't need to give them charm tho, smeeta comes with it.

[red path]

it's not really difficult

[tidal plover]

Huh

[restive warren]

I meant to min-max manifold bond

[tidal plover]

Wdym Charm

[woven bloom]

Nailed it

[red path]

there is no need for damage so you can just put r0 mods

[lyric lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-krang-it-works-like-a-charm-it-works-tmnt-1987-gif-7443865386216986116

[woven bloom]

"Good Fortune"

[restive warren]

I never meant minmax in a dmg way

I posted the wiki post a bit after

I kept cropping like sheet with screenclippin

I mean it's still sheet but at least it's readable now

[tidal plover]

I might have this also, I need to check

[lyric lotus]

it;s still a sheet, but it's a readable sheet.

[restive warren]

I mean it comes WITH a smeeta kavat

No idea if it's tradeable or transmutable

Tradable but not transmutable apparently

[red path]

it's tradable, and it drop form kavats in deimos, but you also get one when you get smeeta

[restive warren]

Wait it does now

[lyric lotus]

i have extra charm if anyone needed one

[restive warren]

I might've turned everything into goo/endo at some point and forgot they dropped then

[red path]

like all base preceps, and as long as you have smeeta, you can't sell/dissolve last copy of precept

[woven bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-got-the-charm-danny-davis-flack-charming-cute-gif-22014083

[lyric lotus]

i just realize, wf has an obsene amount of stance mod. :/

[restive warren]

Yeeeeeeah

Except newer weapon type

[tidal plover]

What does this mean?

[restive warren]

2 handed scythe and erh

... erh.. I forgot

[lyric lotus]

yah

[restive warren]

Ghoulsaw..?

[woven bloom]

Log out before you play the game.

[lyric lotus]

this don't have any stance mod

[keen lintel]

u would be surprised to know how many melee combos r there per stance mod. And there is even a set with no stance mod

[keen lintel]

It does. One

[restive warren]

[lyric lotus]

ik. was just looking into the mod inventory and scrolled through the stance and realize it

[red path]

you can only log in from one device at a time, new logins will overwrite old ones, and if you logged somewhere and playing a game and login from other place, your old login game will not have it's result saved (because you'll be logged out)

[static jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/tolarian-community-college-kyle-hill-magic-the-gathering-i-hate-your-deck-reading-the-card-gif-22381436

[woven bloom]

Temu Thor on the left.

[keen lintel]

Gotta buy from WFM

[static jasper]

True but Kyle Hill is way cooler than any Hemsworth ever will be.

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-fat-thor-thor-odinson-godof-thunder-thunderer-gif-14341833

[lavish herald]

if my lich spawns, but I don't stab it, will it stay on that planet?

[keen lintel]

Ye

[lyric lotus]

i have most of it...not spending plat to buy stance

[lavish herald]

oh that's why they don't kill it

[lyric lotus]

rather use em on new deluxe's

[lavish herald]

makes sense

[tidal plover]

Why is that?

[tidal plover]

Oh. I see.

[woven bloom]

@tidal plover

[restive warren]

I mean if it's not your lich, I hate to be that person bringing bad news: But it's none of your business XD. (But yes, that's why they don't stab, to not level it up too hard before they get the mods)

[keen lintel]

Ye. I hate players who do that. They just waste other player’s time coz u can’t have multiple Lich spawned at the same time. So have to wait.

[tidal plover]

Yeah I already have Tek Enhance but thanks @restive warren, now I gotta read how to get me a Kavat and possibly need help getting one from Sands of Inaros

[keen lintel]

If u don’t wanna stab it then go play solo

[woven bloom]

This is why i go solo most of the time.

[restive warren]

Sand inaros trick only works if you've never done the quest.

[lyric lotus]

i do my lich's solo, cause doing it with group can go south real quick

[keen lintel]

But more players result in more enemy spawns so more stabs for the enemies

[woven bloom]

I got so many out of that.

[tidal plover]

Yeah I haven’t done the quest yet @restive warren and also this is the list I have made so far.

[lyric lotus]

what is the strongest frame you have in your arsenal?

[woven bloom]

Forma you could be crafting one everyday. Not very resource heavy.

[lyric lotus]

along with strongest weapon

[lavish herald]

is there anything cool or unique about kuva hek builds or like nah just normal shotgun with high damage

[tidal plover]

Right also, I already have 10 Kavat Codes from the Anniversary, do I use those to start making a Kavat?

[woven bloom]

We at 90% yet on Follie's Hunt?

[restive warren]

I do that now. But if you're on a crunch of time maybe playing public is also not a great option. Also if they are baboo, they probably need help with their lich and that's why they aren't solo. :)

If there was a way to dismiss lich that showed up I would

[tidal plover]

Probably my Protea Prime as much as I want to get my Volt Prime ready for Steel Path, I have definitely been enjoying Protea with Larva Subsume and that’d be my Nataruk + Broken War but I am only MR12 so IDK. I could probably work on Burston Prime but I just, need more Forma but I’m very poor on Orokin Cells (only got like 20) and I just feel like I’m using more than I can craft atm. IDK, its very hard for me to stock up on Forma ya know?

[restive warren]

I mean now I know you need to quickly down I think 3-4 times and then the lich fudged off. (Which is relatively easy to do if you're not a baboo)

[woven bloom]

😂 almost

[lyric lotus]

well, then look for sp viable builds for the warframe and weapon and start working on them

[restive warren]

I mean I think the down 3-4 times for it to fudge off wasn't a thing early on

Also if you have any type of slow, the recoveriy for you to knock it back down is going to be ALSO super slow

That I know for a fact

[lyric lotus]

i remember getting my buns handed to me in the first SP earth node like a wet paper.

[woven bloom]

Just commit to Orokin cell farm. You only need like 1400 ish for mastery stuff.

[lavish herald]

kuva twin stubbasss

[restive warren]

But srly tho when you go play public, go with the assumption someone is gonna do a lot of dumb sheet

Otherwise you'll be all type of let down if you expect people do be a bunch of perfect angels

It's the only thing that keep me sane when someone decide to go into Griefing mode.

Like spam switch teleport with Loki. (Those I just leave now tho)

[woven bloom]

I just let them die and/or extract.

[restive warren]

Yep

[spare bane]

Nice plan, seems cool

Those (idk how) part will come once you got in it

[lyric lotus]

netracell pub - ungabungahunga

[woven bloom]

Im serious about this though. Make like 80 plat, buy both the 3 day boosters for resources. Go live in a survival/defense that drops them.

[restive warren]

Wukongs as far as the eye can see during slam meta 💀

[lyric lotus]

those were some of the worst time i have spent in there

cherry on top was the loot drops...oof!

[restive warren]

And then that was during to the "stay inside bounds to kill stuff inside the aoe" and they kept running out

[wary echo]

How long does mats farming usually take

[woven bloom]

Me on OCE: Ooh a Banshee. Dont see that often.

Me on ASIA: Wukong, Titania and Volt everywhere.

[restive warren]

That depends on a lot of sheet

[wary echo]

I'm going to try speed running it on 12 hours

[restive warren]

Not everyone farm at the same speed and not everyone has the same attention span, then add RNG to that

[lyric lotus]

the circle should have be the brightest color one come come up with, still you will find yourself in that circle and other 3 are just somewhere...

[wary echo]

Wsll i hope i get.lucky

[restive warren]

Me too

[wary echo]

I'm borrowing my friends pc

Cause it's hell to farm in mobile

[lyric lotus]

[restive warren]

I'll be honest

Warframe overall seems like a pain in the a to play on mobile

[wary echo]

😭 My phone so doo doo it can't handle deimos open world map

[restive warren]

I mean obviously it's doable

[lyric lotus]

i have none of the games i play on my mobile despite them having that version of it..

[restive warren]

BUT

[wary echo]

I finished the quest on 5fps

[lyric lotus]

mobile gaming wasn't my thing and it never will be.

[restive warren]

💀

[wary echo]

Only good is the aimbot

[summer temple]

I can't imagine it being enjoyable whatsoever

[final vector]

now imagine trying to play on a large tablet. not comfortable

[wary echo]

I'm planning to get a switch

Just for the game

[lyric lotus]

reason why i don't have any handheld as well

[summer temple]

I couldn't even play this game on a controller ngl

[restive warren]

I like handheld for turn-based type of game

[wary echo]

Don't even know how my laptop is handling the game bettee rhan my phone when my phone has better spec

[restive warren]

It wasn't really designed for, I think better wording for it was "It was adapted for"

Which makes day/night difference

[lyric lotus]

only handheld in my house is the broom that my wife use on me time to time.

[restive warren]

Exemple Monster hunter was designed to play with a controller, doesn't mean I can't use a keyboard but the keybinding is absolute chaos

And I don't know what to do with a controller

I wonder if Crimson desert is designed for m&k or controller

[lyric lotus]

i heard their control is a mess

[wary echo]

I'm only using mobile since I'm in a different house on weekdays

[tidal plover]

@restive warren So here is the list I’ve got so far but finding a starting point is still tricky as I feel like I’m gonna kill the Kavats if I do Sands of Inaros solo but I also don’t know how many Gene Code Templates I need or if 10 is enough.

[summer temple]

why smeeta specifically

[tidal plover]

I’m building the Kavat Incubator now.

[tidal plover]

Resources.

[summer temple]

also I recommend an invisible frame for sands ov inaros kavats

[tidal plover]

Welp, I’m doomed then.

[summer temple]

this can go on any animal companion

[summer temple]

not like loki is hard to get

5-6 runs of his boss and you're done

[tidal plover]

Yeah I already have it.

[tidal plover]

I’d rather have Loki Prime but thats just me.

[summer temple]

beggars can't be choosers

I'd rather ivara cause no limited duration invis, but you don't sound like someone who can cash out a prime set

[coarse basin]

prepare for steel path - get corrupted/galvanized/archon mods + arcanes if u dont have. kull farm is passive, just do duviri occasionally.

[neon sequoia]

what's the best kuva nukor progenitor element to get? for endgame

[summer temple]

mag

[tidal plover]

Eh its more like I ain’t a fan of being forced to walk in Invis

[neon sequoia]

alr

[coarse basin]

magnetic

[tidal plover]

Yeah I wouldn’t know what Arcanes to grab for Protea for instance

[summer temple]

it's for ONE mission

[restive warren]

Realistically you need only one Kullervo, we aren't that far away from his Prime getting there if I remember right.

[summer temple]

9 months ish

quite a while, I'd consider farming 'em

[lyric lotus]

if kullervo comes with some decent looking attachment...

will have a talk with my wallet.

[restive warren]

Maybe I'm just very patient or very lazy idk which one

[lyric lotus]

depends on the mooood

or if felt fancy enough

i also need to finish decorating this place...sigh! which i am lazy enough to ignore.

[rapid bear]

Need additional opinions, reroll or market for my failure son of a Nukor?

[summer temple]

kuva nukor has literally MINIMAL dispo

so I wouldn't try to get something usable, as it's nearly impossible

[rapid bear]

Ah, so it's marketable as hypeful, rather than useful

[red path]

yeah, switch weapon to kuva nukor and you see how much stats drop

[rapid bear]

AHAHAHAHA

[simple ingot]

guys quick question, everytime i change something in the arsenal like a frame or weapon the game freeze like 10 to 15 second, is it because i have many ready to claim item in foundry?

[red path]

imo it's your internet, since game need to update your state on servers

[spare bane]

I doubt... But maybe

You overloaded yourself

But maybe you have potato device

Idk

Or maybe what Tangor said

[simple ingot]

my device has an Snapdragon 8 gen 3, i maxed everything in graphics and still played smoothly even in winter in hollovania

[spare bane]

Then maybe overloaded

Idk, or what Tangor said

[simple ingot]

ok thanks

[lofty garden]

Post in the bug reporting forums. Could be an issue with the latest patch or something

your phone has 4GB of RAM?

[simple ingot]

8 plus additional 8 that directly consume from the storage so overall 16 gb RAM

[tidal plover]

So I definitely have PLANS in a list now

I just don’t know where to start

[lofty garden]

nah, don’t count storage. 8GB of SoC RAM should be fine

[placid schooner]

What does the settings say your ram is

[lofty garden]

Storage is like taking a cross country flight to pick up a pizza

[simple ingot]

idk where do you see it?

[placid schooner]

Device care

[graceful hatch]

what are some good places to farm ayatan amber stars? ive run dangerously low, i dunno where'd the "best" place to be for it is

[lofty garden]

Open every cabinet, break every crate

That’s all it takes

You do have to pick them up, manually…

[red path]

or just run a frame that break boxes passively

[lofty garden]

Oxylus has a precept that breaks crates

[placid schooner]

Which

[red path]

I get quite a lot when I run void fissures with gyre

[gilded robin]

oh wtf, meanwhile i have 200 statues from arbitrations...

[rapid bear]

Right, so Oxylus just powercreped Carrier at this point?

[simple ingot]

is it in the settings?

[red path]

also uriel 1 does break boxes too iirc

[lofty garden]

where a lot of mine come from as when it breaks the crate it pulls the star to your location so you can just pick it up

[placid schooner]

I died and was in a 30 minute aberration round 🥀

[tidal plover]

Fair enough 😂

[placid schooner]

Yes

[gilded robin]

yeah you gotta be careful

[simple ingot]

its not showing in settings

[gilded robin]

no second chances in arbi

[lofty garden]

Mmm, Pineapples…

[placid schooner]

What phone

[lofty garden]

There are plenty of second chances in Arbitrations.

[placid schooner]

I wasn't doing much damage anyways

[simple ingot]

Xiome Poco F7 pro

[red path]

if it was survival and there is someone else not dead, you just have to wait for mission end, when oxygen runs out you can extract

[lofty garden]

Vazarin artifact will immediately resurrect a downed player, or they can collect the points needed to bring you back

[tidal plover]

Okay yeah, I still don’t know what the heck to get started with when Vocas are a pain in the arse to find etc

[graceful hatch]

what'd be a good one for that? ik gauss 4 does that at high enough battery levels but still

[lofty garden]

Phone has 12GB of RAM. Should not be a RAM issue

[graceful hatch]

oh oxylus is a companion, i c. ill have to not use diriga though which

diriga my beloved...

[pallid canyon]

xaku is THE box break frame

[graceful hatch]

i assume with enough weapons stolen with 2?

[lofty garden]

Oxylus is great for fishing, plants, and breaking those reinforced crates that have mantis parts or 30/60 minute boosters or forma in them

[pallid canyon]

its vast untime

[lofty garden]

Xaku’s crate break is their 4.It does not “travel” like Gyre’s tu-tu of mayhem

[graceful hatch]

ahhhhhhh

[summer temple]

their*

[graceful hatch]

so its just kinda pressing 4 every so often just to nuke crates and stuff?

[pallid canyon]

i usually just use acid shells to box break if I need to for whatever reason

[tidal plover]

@summer temple Can ya help me with any of this? I realise my list keeps expanding but I keep remembering stuff to do.

[summer temple]

what do you need help with

[lofty garden]

based on the mini-map, yes, though cabinets have a surprising number of stars in them, and those you have to open by hand

[graceful hatch]

makes sense yeah

[lofty garden]

or use a pet that does so, but the delay on that may make it a bit slow

[tidal plover]

Everything on that list, I just dunno where to start?

[graceful hatch]

ill just use oxylus with scan matter and vacuum for now then, run around w/ xaku in a few missions, that sorta deal

[lofty garden]

if you really want to go to town, there is a pet mod that tries to unlock locked cabinets, and there is a warframe mode that does the same

[summer temple]

put them on a wheel and let fate decide

[rapid bear]

Vocas? I just throw parallax out and fetch them

[simple ingot]

ill try claiming my weapons in foundry and mastering them up and then sell them, might be the cause since this started after building a lot of weapon for mastery rank

[woven bloom]

Another boney boi for my collection!

[restive warren]

He looks so happy

https://tenor.com/view/pat-garrys-mod-garrys-mod-physics-fast-intense-gif-26322619

[woven bloom]

He has a full belly.

[summer temple]

that's really cool

[restive warren]

Hmm just realized that headpat gif looks more like head blunt trauma gif

[lofty garden]

hmm, worth keeping note and posting a bug report if it turns out over a certain threshold is causing a problem. normally, you can keep as much as you want in the Foundry

[restive warren]

Hmm

Does it need to access servers everytime one look in the foundry?

[tidal plover]

I don’t have Air Support Charges yet

[restive warren]

[rapid bear]

That's a clan unlock

[lofty garden]

don’t know. I didn’t think it was that chatty

[restive warren]

I mean I already indirectly offered to find Voca

[tidal plover]

Sorry sometimes I don’t pick up on Subtle Clues

[summer temple]

how about you offer it directly, I'm in need of a few 😂

[leaden obsidian]

[tidal plover]

I’m sorry Kath

[restive warren]

I'm very slow about it because I don't use cipher for hacking the doors

And there's some I ignore door and I just climb back where I came in from

[summer temple]

having to craft 2 of each made me very unhappy

[restive warren]

YES

[tidal plover]

I’m sorry once again

[lofty garden]

… but why?

[restive warren]

Once again I'm unsure what you apologize for because I wasn't offended I just assume you didn't respond because you didn't know if you ACTUALLY wanted to work on that or something else

[restive warren]

Lazy

[tidal plover]

[restive warren]

Which sounds crazy after saying I just climb back the hole I came from which is more work than starting some cipher and using them

[lofty garden]

I pop them like candy

[leaden obsidian]

I’m offended!

[red path]

I recently made my 9999 ciphers, now I need to make 9k air support

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-rubber-room-gif-10524477174166992043

[lofty garden]

yeah, I need more air support. down below 200

[restive warren]

x500 crafting when

So I can just start those before going to bedge

[lofty garden]

x500 and x1000…

would be nice for flares, too

[tidal plover]

Yeah I’d be down to have some help getting Vocas so I can upgrade my Necramech but that then loops back to the Forma Chokepoint I’m currently experiencing

[hushed marsh]

is there any way to increase the opacity of the mining spot reticle? it's insanely hard to see for me in deimos

[tidal plover]

I finally made a list!

[restive warren]

Then I just recommend doing a long run of relic cracking, you don't need to upgrade them but you do need to go public: And try to get forma bps. They take 24h to craft so you might wanna have a nice piles so you can craft one daily

[graceful hatch]

...yknow, i can't lie. i didnt know about this until literally right now 😭

[graceful hatch]

that certainly makes things a bit easier lol

[restive warren]

It helps yes

[leaden obsidian]

I knew about the bp I’d just have to run arbitrations to craft them

[hushed marsh]

awesome

[restive warren]

I think there's a Jade eximus aggressively judging you

[tidal plover]

Energy Channel isn’t a good mod right?

[tidal plover]

I have like 40 Forma BP but only like 6 Crafted

[restive warren]

Omg I forgot this thing existed

[summer temple]

can't see anyone use it, no

[gilded robin]

200 flat bonus WOW!

[tidal plover]

I’m trying to get Bite via Transmutate and I’m running out of Madurai Mods to yeet

[leaden obsidian]

Now wait, hang on. It kight be op

[restive warren]

I think a while back it was used for one thing

Which I can't remember

[tidal plover]

Whats wrong with trying to get a mod via transmutate?

[leaden obsidian]

damn actually energy channel is ass

[restive warren]

I might be mistakening it for another mod actually

[leaden obsidian]

Can’t even use pressure point or things like that to make the damage beefier

[restive warren]

Because yeah I don't see in what alternate dimension that would be good

[restive warren]

I went to go read that as well

-Deep inhaling-

👁️ 👄 👁️ Why

[tidal plover]

Okay yeah Transmutation is just terrible

Then how TF do I get Bite

😭 Why’d they have to make this so complex

[restive warren]

I got bite from cache hunting.

[tidal plover]

Ugh no one does Caches but maybe its my best shot

[restive warren]

If you mean in public, nah generally not

Half the time if you take your sweet-a time for anything people loose their mind so

Anyone that would..? Probably play solo

Or with friend only

[tidal plover]

Yeah makes sense

Corrupted Drahk look like my best chance

Can Khora Boost Mod Drop Chances?

[restive warren]

By semantics yes

[tidal plover]

Meaning?

[coarse basin]

caches look like your best chance tbh

im so glad I just use robotics tbh

[restive warren]

This along with any other augment or ability that help with looting affect also mod loot

HOWEVER there is a mod booster (It only affect just that tho and arcane because apparently arcanes are mods?)

[coarse basin]

endo too

[restive warren]

Thank you, yes endo too like Mel said

There's only a few ways to get said boosters for free. :| So pretend I said nothing, just figured I'd put it there so if you ever get one you can go take advantage of it

[coarse basin]

im not farming some shit like "broken talons" with a 0.00023% drop chance from killing vay hek's left toenail

I don't care if it gives me +700% status chance

[tidal plover]

Thx

[restive warren]

Vay hek left toenail 😭 🤣

ew

[tidal plover]

Whats the point in breeding other Kavats anyway if you get a Smeeta?

[elfin jungle]

wtf

[leaden obsidian]

I prefer his right toenail

[lavish herald]

is that a giant sword or are you just happy to see me

[coarse basin]

if you kill it enough times, I hear you get "noxious reaper" and it gives like +800% gas dmg and +400% status dmg

[leaden obsidian]

Hmmm, I’ll have to do that then

[coarse basin]

like I said, glad I use robotics.

[pallid canyon]

theres no real reason, just trying to get the looks you want

dont jump into the breeding rabbit hole because its a big pyramid scheme for a dead market

[woven bloom]

Wisp has now joined the blood and bone crew!

[fleet oar]

I should get wisp considering i'm dating Marie

[tidal plover]

[leaden obsidian]

Missing xaku

[woven bloom]

My Xaku is all bone.

[leaden obsidian]

Good

[woven bloom]

Who to add next?

[coarse basin]

damn, these look good.

gus next!

[woven bloom]

Thanks. I started with Rhino, now im just seeing who else it works on.

[limpid horizon]

did I'm not the only one being crazy to experience that Tennokai Gunblade actually [CLEM] SUCK for some reason?

like, literrally not SHOOTING at (or not close at all) where the reticle is?

[coarse basin]

would probably work on sentient-esque skins, like gus' nitrolyst or kresnik.

dewit

[limpid horizon]

I don't know if that's because of the Tennokai animation messing up the direction of shot, but that's... extremely weird and making basically Tennokai WORTHLESS to even use on those kind of melee weapon

[real sapphire]

Are you an mtg player?

[limpid horizon]

like... I was BASICALLY STANDING STILL in front of an enemy AND for some forsaken reason, the Tennokai shot just... bent 90° to the right/left and not a single pellet hit the enemy

like, what the [CLEM] is that?!

[real sapphire]

I made a nekros with this exact theme based on a faction from mtg lol

[woven bloom]

I've dabbled in the past.

[leaden obsidian]

Oraxia

[woven bloom]

Nitrolyst has too much metallic. Kresnik maybe, there's a fair bit of metallic on that too though.

[woven bloom]

Not enough options and also the metallic parts.

[leaden obsidian]

[woven bloom]

Someone on a reddit post said that about my Rhino.

[coarse basin]

worth a shot, no? kresnik I mean

[woven bloom]

When i have plat to spare i'll try.
Waiting for that Dante skin.

[cerulean cedar]

What is the best type of predasite for mecha mods set?

[restive warren]

Depends.

Do you want any funni utility or you want a nuke

Because all predasite has something nice going on

One of them can put toxin on your amp, which could be paired with Astral bond.

Another one can heal stuff you can't "normally heal with abilities"

And the other one is just a worse Helminth charger

Well not exactly but

Closest terms I could go with (Without writing an essay)

Oh mecha that's easy

[gilded robin]

i forget what the 3rd cat does (not smeeta or adarza)

[restive warren]

Vasca?

[gilded robin]

yes

[leaden obsidian]

Vampire kitty

[restive warren]

Kill itself to keep you alive. (Drain its health but same difference to me)

[gilded robin]

ohhh right

now i remember. idk i even forgot it's name

[red path]

my goto companion for eta/eda, free revive

[leaden obsidian]

Unless it’s knocked down, then it’s just dead weight

[red path]

from my experience it works even when kitty is down

[restive warren]

Primed sure tootsies for Vasca is needed

DE plz

[gilded robin]

i used pretty much just the smeeta till the companion rework

[restive warren]

I just use Adarza

I was so relieved when they added the loot mod

Finally I can get more goodies without having to equip Smeeta

[spare bane]

Hmm

[leaden obsidian]

Everytime it went down and I go down while it’s down I’d lay on the floor wondering why I was usin it as my companion

[restive warren]

But they patched the nerfing to crit Smeeta does so now it's just

Temu Adarza with conditional

[radiant knot]

Sometimes I forget of the zealoid prelate's existence and just don't remember how I'm supposed to kill it

[spare bane]

Does Mirage 4 affected by range?

[restive warren]

Russian roulette buff but it does something similar as Adarza, that's sorta insulting.

[restive warren]

Yes/no

[red path]

in hard eda/eta it is almost always down, but even then I get free revives

[spare bane]

Explain Lil kitty

[restive warren]

Before I start with anything, are you trying to use Prism guard?

[spare bane]

No, I'm deciding which one to subsume, 2 or 4, her 2 is affected her range so that's why I'm asking for the 4

[restive warren]

Because with the augment you don't really need range.

I mean you don't need "that much"

[lyric lotus]

Make a melee mirage

[restive warren]

You don't need much for it to be functional, but I don't know if they patched the sheningans or not

I remember when I didn't have a subsume on my weapon platform Mirage, it would just...

I'd throw that thing inthe sky and it would shoot things right in front of me while the thing was just floating infinetly upward

[lyric lotus]

Disco ball!

[spare bane]

I'm making a weapon platform mirage, that can survive through thick and thin

I heard she is good

[lyric lotus]

I dare you to make a melee Mesa

[spare bane]

Wait but her 1, how many Mirage can she have and in what scale

[spare bane]

Bet, her 4 will do hack n Slash than hoot n shoot

[lyric lotus]

4 is the cap i guess, i could be wrong

[restive warren]

[spare bane]

What just 4 mirage? Let me read her skills

[true kayak]

It doesn’t scale with anything
Just gives you 4 clones

[restive warren]

[true kayak]

It also wants a lot of strength, because the clones have multiplicative crit and status

[spare bane]

Damn only 4

[lyric lotus]

4 is enough tho

Two on the left two on the right main in the Middle

[restive warren]

"Only 4"

[true kayak]

Use a volatile rebound glaive build

And total eclipse

[lavish herald]

what the hell is that ability

[restive warren]

Hall of mirror's augment..?

[spare bane]

Hmmmm so duration plays a huge roll in this

[spare bane]

Duplicate into 4

[restive warren]

Total eclipse doesn't affect the clones

[true kayak]

Yes it does

[spare bane]

How

[restive warren]

I thought you didn't need the augment for it?

[true kayak]

It just does?

[spare bane]

True hahaa

[true kayak]

You do

[lavish herald]

*I have been trying to get a Kuva hek to spawn, it's been 20 minutes, 3 sobeks, 4 kohms, 1 nukor, and 1 kuva twin stubbas

[restive warren]

Now you need 2 augment

[lavish herald]

hey I can use a hek riven on a kuva hek, right?

[spare bane]

OK so you need the augment for her 3 to affect her 1 and the augment of her 1

[restive warren]

I wonder if Roar affect 'em too

[spare bane]

I kinda guessed that

[cobalt grove]

what do i grab

[brittle spire]

Yes

[lavish herald]

AWESOME

[brittle spire]

Rivens work for every variant of the weapon it’s for as far as I’m aware

[restive warren]

omfg you do 😭

[leaden obsidian]

You’re now a rapscallion

[restive warren]

Might've been why I booted Narrow minded hold on

[cobalt grove]

indeed

[lavish herald]

a kuva ogris

if the riven disposition for the hek sucks I'm gonna cry

[limber quartz]

Finish the mission, it will remove the unwanted weapon from the rotation untill you spawn the lich...

[restive warren]

Wait hold on

[lavish herald]

WHAT

[coarse basin]

volt fulgursor would also be worth a shot.

[lavish herald]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

[restive warren]

Oh

[true kayak]

You don’t need much range for the augment to affect them

[lavish herald]

20 MINUTES

[restive warren]

I'm not too sure why I gutted OG build then

It's not like I can use a time machine to ask myself anyways

I think I didn't see the point to keep total eclipse if I had the augment on

But unsure of the specific

Also that was back when the spiciest content was Arbitration, SP didn't exist.

[lavish herald]

okay thank you so much 🙏 @limber quartz

[restive warren]

Well sheet

[lavish herald]

but also I HATE MYSELF SOOOOO MUCHHH

is the kuva hek even good

[restive warren]

It's a shotgun

[lavish herald]

is that a yes or a no

[real sapphire]

Kuva hek is great, used to be turbo meta for archon and lich hunts

[lavish herald]

ah ykw, I don't care, it looks cool, I love shotguns, and apparently you can shoot 4 at once that's good enough for me

[limber quartz]

Beeg bang, gud for one taps

[lavish herald]

and I've got a cool riven for it

[real sapphire]

These days that kind of damage isn't really needed though.

[restive warren]

I'd go with yes but now that we have incarnon Idk what people consider good and everyone has an opinion about something

[lavish herald]

is a riven even good on it

[real sapphire]

Also its dispo is probably 0.5 lol

[light sequoia]

Can Mirage clones increase Crit chance to incarnons???

[spare bane]

@restive warren @true kayak

Does the Augment Total Eclipse affect her Mirage and calls it as "Allies"

[restive warren]

Look at the disposition

[light sequoia]

Or someone explain what happened..

[restive warren]

Yes

[true kayak]

It doesn’t affect mirage because she’s affected by eclipse already

But it does affect her clones

[restive warren]

Oh that's what you meant

[limber quartz]

With its dispo wouldnt bother slotting unless its a dual element and multishot

[spare bane]

Yes I meant her clones, her Mirage

[spare bane]

Oh aight

[leaden obsidian]

It affects her clones, run neg range to say “heck you” to all teamates

[restive warren]

I'd use the augment before I use a riven because of disposition

[leaden obsidian]

Kuva hek?

[restive warren]

I had a teamplay build and a solo play build for that reason

1.00x dispo, whatever that means

[leaden obsidian]

I had a “whatever this is my buff” build

[lavish herald]

looks at riven

[restive warren]

I should probably update my Mirage build at some point

Considering SP exist now

[lavish herald]

CALL ME A LUCKY BASTARD

[restive warren]

And she's stuck like... 5y and more in the past

[leaden obsidian]

Stats will be normal

[leaden obsidian]

Drop riv

[lavish herald]

IT IS unfortunately the negative is....

mag capacity.....

[restive warren]

Negative multishot and I'll just explode

[leaden obsidian]

NOOOOOO

[restive warren]

Oh that's... That's still bad

Could be worse

[lavish herald]

it's just puncture anyway

[limber quartz]

Sadge

[lavish herald]

but yeah, puncture, toxin, multishot

is it salvageable

[restive warren]

Meh on puncture

Nice multi and toxin at least

[leaden obsidian]

That’s a garbage riv, if it were +mag cap -puncture that’d be funny

[lavish herald]

but is the mag capacity salvageable?

or...no...

[leaden obsidian]

Depends, show build with and without the riv

[lavish herald]

okay what if its

[restive warren]

Can't remember which weapon have mag cap has a prime mod

[lavish herald]

electric + cold and damage to infested, no negative tho

[restive warren]

Oh no I just realised it's more than awful because of alt fire

[lavish herald]

probably not worth it?

[restive warren]

I completely forgot about alt fire

BIG why didn't remind me about alt fire

No ditch that riven into the shame pit

[lavish herald]

which

[leaden obsidian]

All have primed versions

[lavish herald]

I'll just keep rolling, y'all can laugh at my luck for the next few minutes before I go eat dinner

[tidal plover]

Does anyone know how to fix “Cannot sync to Warframe Database due to having no internet connection” despite having Internet?

[leaden obsidian]

Nah stick with tox ms

[limber quartz]

Keep the tomato juice flowin

[lavish herald]

this is low-key fun

[restive warren]

Have you tried restarting your device?

[lavish herald]

I'm not even gonna mention the new stats

[restive warren]

c_c

[lavish herald]

ammo max, damage, and -fire rate

bro

I'm gonna ignore it

[restive warren]

pain

[leaden obsidian]

Oof

[lavish herald]

-73% fire rate

[restive warren]

😩

[tidal plover]

Just did

[limber quartz]

Assuming those would be the stats for the regular hek

[lavish herald]

OH BOY, MAG CAP -AMMO MAX

[restive warren]

What about the other rolls tho

[limber quartz]

Not terrible

[lavish herald]

did someone say -critical damage?

oh uh

heat, cold, elec, but negative to duration

-94% to duration

[limber quartz]

It doesnt realy care about status tho

[lavish herald]

so the multishot + tox is still better?

[limber quartz]

Its more a one tap thing

[lavish herald]

I got.....5 more rolls in me

[restive warren]

Thanks I'll just slot justice 🫡

[lavish herald]

so which one do I go forward with?

[lavish herald]

why not just both

[restive warren]

[lavish herald]

kk, stick to the old one

what does -status duration do anyway?

[pallid canyon]

left is a downgrade to dps

[lavish herald]

is it super important for things that're meant to kill almost immediately?

[keen lintel]

Yes. This should be a feature and sadly wastes other player’s time

[pallid canyon]

-magazine size is REALLY bad for Hek

[lavish herald]

oh hi malz!

[pallid canyon]

right would have let you slot corrosive + blast with one mod slot

[restive warren]

That's why I was like hm

[pallid canyon]

also + puncture is bad

[restive warren]

Depends on the element

[lavish herald]

the game heard you, now it's giving me +75% capacity

I'm running out of Kuva

[pallid canyon]

Basically, alt fire uses 4 shots

[lavish herald]

uh

[pallid canyon]

so taking away magazine size decreases damage

[lavish herald]

how about this one

[restive warren]

I mean both were awful to me

[pallid canyon]

both terrible

[restive warren]

Unless like you said

You build it for blast

💀

[leaden obsidian]

Doesn’t matter, no cc

[restive warren]

True

[lavish herald]

lmfao now it's just puncture and ms

[restive warren]

Divorce from punc

[pallid canyon]

i rolled my hek +Grineer +Corpus -Impact

[lavish herald]

last roll

I have 6767 kuva left

[leaden obsidian]

Somethin good, cmon

Banned

[restive warren]

I'm about to offer to roll it.

[lavish herald]

no I am not kidding it is the stupid number

[restive warren]

I'm not a scientist but that's 1 roll

[lavish herald]

I hate that number so much

[leaden obsidian]

I’m about to offer to scrap it for endo

[restive warren]

Unless you go see Palladino and ask her to give you Kuva

Same with Yonta

[lavish herald]

IT'S GIVING ME MORE PUNCTURE

[restive warren]

Just go shake both those ladies for Kuva

[lavish herald]

IT'S JUST PUNCTURE

[restive warren]

Oml

[leaden obsidian]

What’re the other stats

[lavish herald]

THIS IS THE FOURTH PUNCTURE STAT

[restive warren]

[lavish herald]

weapon recoil

[leaden obsidian]

Disgusting

[lavish herald]

this is actually garbage

[restive warren]

Sigh

[leaden obsidian]

Kath go roll it

[lavish herald]

right where can I get more kuva

[restive warren]

... :|

[pallid canyon]

just remember that +Recoil is actually a good thing

[restive warren]

Not like I named both npc

[restive warren]

Is it?

[leaden obsidian]

Did you use the 70k for the week?(35k from paladino and yonta)

[lavish herald]

it was a -

[pallid canyon]

yes, + is the negative for recoil

its adding recoil

[restive warren]

... That's so confusingly worded but yeah

[leaden obsidian]

Yes cause recoil is weird. +recoil is the neg

[lavish herald]

it was -recoil

[restive warren]

eugh

[pallid canyon]

negligable negative on the hem since you’re expending your magazine in one shot

[leaden obsidian]

More recoil is garbage, less recoil is good

[limber quartz]

+250k from unc teshin

[lavish herald]

who's yonta?

[restive warren]

Zariman lady

You need 5 pinion for it tho

[leaden obsidian]

Zariman woman

[restive warren]

But yeah Teshin has some Kuva too

Acrithis too on a good week if I remember well

Been a while since I slaved away in Duviri

[lavish herald]

to Teshin!

arthritis?

[leaden obsidian]

Duviri woman

[limber quartz]

Acritis one is a scam... 10 clamps for 6k...

[restive warren]

Close

[lavish herald]

I have been....neglecting duviri

[restive warren]

c_c the fudge do you do when you do your duviri runs? :U

[leaden obsidian]

Or is arthritis a man, I’m unsure

[restive warren]

She sounds like a grandma to me

[lavish herald]

I'll just grind more steel stuff later

[restive warren]

I miss the old SP grind

[lavish herald]

WHY DO I HAVE 4 RAUTA RIVENS

[restive warren]

Eximus farm was so nice

[lavish herald]

let's go gambling

[restive warren]

c_c

You have enough in your hand with riven n'1

Sir do I need to call gambler anonymous for you

[lavish herald]

+fire rate, +corpus damage, -critical chance....not off to a good start no

[limber quartz]

You mean an extra shotgun riben?

[real sapphire]

Rauta's cool, that's why

[lavish herald]

okay but why 4

[restive warren]

Convenient weapon

[leaden obsidian]

4? Damn pass me one. I don’t have the gun but for when I do get the gun

[lavish herald]

sure why not

IS THIS NOT THE SAME RIVEN

it's fire rate and corpus damage AGAIN

[leaden obsidian]

What rolls do you have for rauta

[lavish herald]

idk, there's 4

[limber quartz]

It want you to comit corpus genocide

[restive warren]

I just assume Rauta was a "combo stick"

[lavish herald]

I'll check after I waste all my kuva

[leaden obsidian]

Look at each roll then

[restive warren]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[latent breach]

do you guys think well of life is really necessary on trinity at this point in time
if i'm doing the whole champion's blessing weapons platform
does well of life do anything unique that blessing doesn't already cover

I could subsume in Xata/Roar for more dmg instead otherwise

[leaden obsidian]

It is

[lavish herald]

and this still sucks....PUNCTURE YET AGAIN

[real sapphire]

It is. I'm hoping rauta prime makes ot a bit more usable.

[lavish herald]

LET'S GO! ONE LAST ROLLLL

[restive warren]

Status immunity and free revive if you're in range.

[lavish herald]

IT'S EVEN WORSE

[restive warren]

Assuming I'm remembering good that is, I know for shure about the revive.

[pallid canyon]

it is

[leaden obsidian]

[lavish herald]

well that was fun

[limber quartz]

Link already gives status imunity

[restive warren]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Well_of_Life

[pallid canyon]

as an aactual weapon its super underwhelming

[lavish herald]

oh I only have 3 rauta rivens my bad

[fair flame]

I still don't know what this even doses.

[lavish herald]

TWO ARE -MULTISHOT

that's awful lmfao

[pallid canyon]

i wouldnt roll for rauta unless you just really want ti

[restive warren]

Transfer but yes I guess that would mean status immunity on yourself, then the immunity from Well might just inconvenience you

[lavish herald]

just for fun I'll do 2

[pallid canyon]

the god roll for it is +fire rate, magazine capacity, multishot, -dmg/crit

[leaden obsidian]

Idk, don’t use saryn

[restive warren]

Huh

[limber quartz]

Ye... Link be funny when jade eximus around :3

[fair flame]

i do know chroma is not ment to be hitting that number

[restive warren]

Chroma more like ba-

Yeah nah I'll see myself out

[limber quartz]

Precise numba

[tidal plover]

OH GOD WHY IS BITE SO PAINFUL TO GET

[restive warren]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-team-rocket-blasting-off-again-fly-sky-gif-5141373

[lavish herald]

well that was a terrible waste of time

I had fun

[fair flame]

its to help you understand what your foes will feel when you equip it

[restive warren]

We lost another one to the gambling addiction 🫡

[lavish herald]

gambling that doesn't include money is always fun

[limber quartz]

Now you know why iys so expensive on the market

[fair flame]

hay Kath rate this sister name

[lavish herald]

this....is a gacha I accept

[pallid canyon]

if it makes you feel better im 892 deep on my Nami Solo riven

[tidal plover]

Yup

[restive warren]

My funni bone has been tickled

[tidal plover]

Is it easier to get from Drahk’s?

[fair flame]

earth sabatocs cashes are the best. as the drahks and kubrows only have a 0.002% drop chance

[lavish herald]

bite is rare??

[pallid canyon]

very

thats why its so expensive

[restive warren]

It is when you try to farm it with kills vs Caches

[lavish herald]

what's the cache chance?

[pallid canyon]

cheapest on wfm

[lavish herald]

I kinda enjoy cache hunting solo

oh it's just 60

I was thinking like...100 or something like what the AX-52 guys are smoking

[restive warren]

They don't have plat unfortunately

Also I'm p sure if they did, they just buy stuff to fashion nekros

[lavish herald]

OH RIGHT NOVA PRIME IS IN MY FOUNDRY IT'S BEEN DAYS

[leaden obsidian]

I want what they’re smoking

[pallid canyon]

the ax52 mod isnt available

the bite mod is

[leaden obsidian]

[restive warren]

Which I feel on anatomical level because running around with something unfashionable and having to look at its behind for hours would too, make me go nuts

[lavish herald]

I keep forgetting about the Primes in my foundry

[latent breach]

guess it might be safe to subsume off for a weapons platform trinity
idt anyone needs the revive being tethered to a spot nowadays

[lavish herald]

I'm only missing Yareli from all the available prime stuff at this point

[restive warren]

Depends on what you do, but yeah you're pretty much right

[lavish herald]

how good is lavos

[restive warren]

Erh

Depends on whom you ask

[leaden obsidian]

I’d rather look at most heirloom behinds

[restive warren]

And how you build him.

[lavish herald]

you know what DID make someone crazy?

Sevagoth prime's butt

[restive warren]

Yes

Where? When?

[lavish herald]

as in....awakened someone in general chat

[restive warren]

Yes I'm paying attention now

You have yet to tell me where it is

[limber quartz]

Dont let them discover Yareli's...

[restive warren]

[restive warren]

She looks like a teenagers to me (At least Prime/base)

Deluxe not

[lavish herald]

that's a kid

[leaden obsidian]

Very good

[restive warren]

Teenager is a kid yes.

[slender maple]

Sevs thighs save lives

[restive warren]

Idk how people keep ignoring his thighs

[lavish herald]

ngl, fair enough on this person's part, because me personally? you wanna know what made me realize I was genderfluid and more fem presenting?

[leaden obsidian]

Yarelis behind or?

[lavish herald]

other than the fact I already look like a girl, sa1ka on twitter

[restive warren]

Her deluxe is

[lavish herald]

yes.

The Sonic Shadow Lolita dress artist

[restive warren]

Sevagoth make Reaper have a run for his money

[limber quartz]

The dress hides many things...

[summer temple]

solid

[restive warren]

Lavos is just sorta annoying to play as a caster tho

[restive warren]

So people just use his augment for Valence

[pallid canyon]

Lavos not being active gatable was an immediate turn off

i wont even give him a chance

[normal stirrup]

People who only shield gate are weak

[restive warren]

Gatable?

[lavish herald]

how good is....Vauban

and Gara

[restive warren]

Yes for Gara

[normal stirrup]

This one is really good

[gilded robin]

gara is the grimm reaper

[lavish herald]

ykw I'll just list all the mostly complete Prime parts I managed to get from random fissures

[normal stirrup]

The other two are hit or miss but gara is very solid

[pallid canyon]

shield gate

[restive warren]

Ew

[pallid canyon]

He doesnt consume energy and thus cant shield gate actively

[restive warren]

Right in front of my salad

[limber quartz]

Vauban be fine, Gara be... Strong if a bit clunky

[restive warren]

Really 😭

[lavish herald]

Gara
Vauban
Harrow
Nekros
Gauss
Revenant

some others, I forgot

[summer temple]

the humble passive gate

[lavish herald]

I don't even remember how I got them

[restive warren]

But joking aside, Shieldgating was the biggest mistake along with remove self-dmg

[normal stirrup]

Just health tanking too

[lavish herald]

I just spammed capture fissures a few days ago

[pallid canyon]

i just dont like it as much

[summer temple]

persistence works, I guess
just not my thing

[restive warren]

But I guess otherwise most Warframe die in endurance runs, fine line in the sand I guess. Necessary evil would be an alternate word we can use too.

[summer temple]

same, I active gate on every frame that can do it

[pallid canyon]

I like being able to control my own survivability

[normal stirrup]

Even without persistence in most regular missions

[pallid canyon]

Having to rely on passive survival just isnt for me

[devout burrow]

wow you guys shield gate? thats so elitist and toxic

[summer temple]

fair I guess
Still, not my cup of tea

[restive warren]

Shieldgating is passive too tho? Like it does itself as you're playing the game

[pallid canyon]

he says as he boos and thrashes at anybody who enjoyed it

[true kayak]

No, there’s active gating and passive gating

[restive warren]

Nah I don't care about that.

[pallid canyon]

theres active and passive gating. Active gating uses abilities to generate shield. Passive gating uses things like Aegis and fast deflect to just do its own thing

[true kayak]

Active gating is casting an ability whenever your shields go down
It’s usually a specific ability too

[lavish herald]

Harrow seems cool

[normal stirrup]

If you have catalyzing shields and a ability spam frame it's basically the same

[restive warren]

Oh. That's where we gonna go with semantics. I guess it does makes

[fair flame]

something seems wrong with my rhino...

[true kayak]

Yeah, but it’s not the same on weapon platforms like saryn

Dragon keys

[devout burrow]

index moment

[pallid canyon]

passive gating setups usually just use vig vigor, fast deflect, and arcane aegis to just constantly gen shields regardless of what YOU do

[restive warren]

I don't really care about the semantics I feel like shieldgating is lazy and everyone minus some oddballs can do it.

[pallid canyon]

i dont particularly enjoy it

[restive warren]

People before were whining about Mesmer skin

And now we have shieldgating and it's suddenly fine

[pallid canyon]

i dont see how its any more lazy than any other survival method

[true kayak]

Mesmer skin gives you 20 seconds of invulnerability

Shield gating does not do that

[normal stirrup]

Yeah it gives you infinite seconds

[restive warren]

Fair

[restive warren]

As long as you have energy but yeah by semantics it is.

At least that's how I analyze it

[pallid canyon]

we really like that word huh

[lavish herald]

so like...how many of you are red crit addicts?

[true kayak]

Kullervo, harrow, or gyre?

[devout burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1150797852029767781/1480917958984466596/meme.gif

[pallid canyon]

Melee harrow 🤑

[restive warren]

Not lazy in the way you're thinking it's just... EVERYONE can do it. So it's not gated it's not special, it's the answer to everything. (Outside Nidus/Kullervo and Inatoes)

[lavish herald]

like how many of you just...like seeing the red

[true kayak]

Everyone likes red

[fair flame]

GIVE ME MORE DE!!!

[pallid canyon]

yeah ill be honest this just seems like a big nothing burger

[devout burrow]

i have my stalker theme but I just dont care about red crits anymore

I'll just blame MHBlacky for that

[restive warren]

Because if you don't use it, people harrass you LOL

Why you not doing this, why you not doing that blablabla

[pallid canyon]

“Almost every frame can shield gate so its not special”
i just dont get your point

[devout burrow]

pls dont

[true kayak]

There’s some idiot on overframe that posts melee builds with “red crit guaranteed” and then it’s just wrathful advance

[lavish herald]

question

[pallid canyon]

I get more hate saying I do shield gate than I see people get when they say they dont

[devout burrow]

no

[restive warren]

We love those

[lavish herald]

okay. ..

[fair flame]

https://tenor.com/view/hehe-spongebob-lol-wow-gif-6252809655328469093

[limber quartz]

Many do... I no longer have numbers on screen... I like seeing what I'm murdering.

[lavish herald]

I genuinely forgot what I was gonna ask

[fair flame]

What your favorite warframe themed food

That's a question I have asked you

[restive warren]

Last thing I want is people asking me why I don't have that stupid godamn shield arcane or that damn aura mod or that damn x other thing I don't give a f about

[pallid canyon]

ive had a guy dm me 5 paragraphs worth just to tell me I shouldnt shield gate on excalibur

[restive warren]

... Isn't it your account?

[pallid canyon]

Im not sure what you’re asking here

[fair flame]

Who ever made that meme forgot about this op mod.

[restive warren]

Sounds like none of his business to me

[devout burrow]

hating on "sweaty" things is just warframe community things

[true kayak]

Persistence umbra is cooler
But shield gate is better

[restive warren]

"Not his business because your account isn't his" that's the point I'm making.

[lavish herald]

Oh YEAH, isn't there an arcane that strips armor off of enemies and gives you over guard? why don't I hear that in the same conversation as...rolling guard? (I haven't actually seen the stats for the arcane)

[pallid canyon]

“sweaty”
looks inside
its just standard gameplay loops

[restive warren]

Didn't know we had to have word foreplay now

[keen owl]

Whats the largest non LOS aoe nuke? Preferably can cover most of hydron

[devout burrow]

that meme is shitting on the whole persistence vs shield gating thing

[lavish herald]

FOREPLAY? WHERE

[true kayak]

Arcane circumvent is way better than rolling guard

[gilded robin]

i use this dog for hildryn

[pallid canyon]

those who roll

[devout burrow]

casting an ability whenever you see your screen light up blue is too hard

[lavish herald]

yeah why don't I hear about it more

[pallid canyon]

mfs will be like this and then turn around and play Roar Sevagoth

[normal stirrup]

It's less saying that you shield gate and more about only shield gating and never using anything else

[true kayak]

Circumvent can be the only survivability thing you slot and you’ll be fine up until like 2000

[restive warren]

No I honestly have issue when those type of gimmiicks bring some people entitled on what you put in your warframe. And the number of shieldgater that keep harrrassing other about having better shield gating when people didn't ask anything about that is ABSOLUTELY obnoxious

[normal stirrup]

Like not playing lavos because you can't shield gate there is very silly

[restive warren]

That too

[lavish herald]

what happens around 2k?

[keen owl]

Me an overguard frame: what is shield and what is knockdown

[true kayak]

Damage starts to get too high

[restive warren]

I hate mechanics that create crutch and "Now this is the only way to survive"

[keen owl]

Gets killed by magnetic spider

[devout burrow]

same people who shit on shield gating saying its too complicated and then proceed to play shi like limbo

[pallid canyon]

just cant overguard tank atp

[true kayak]

I hate lavos because of cooldowns

I want to cast abilities

[normal stirrup]

Efficiency

[restive warren]

You know what, that make sense

[fair flame]

Ayy yo what?!?

[restive warren]

I will not reword that, it's staying that way

[fair flame]

Girl you nasty in a fun way.

[lavish herald]

how effective is the armor stripping of arcane circumvent anyway

[restive warren]

I like chaos

[fair flame]

[normal stirrup]

You do it for the overguard, the armor stripping is a bonus

[true kayak]

Not great

[pallid canyon]

i mean its 50% regardless of level

its just a nice little bonus

[true kayak]

Rolling twice to armor strip one enemy is pretty bad

[lavish herald]

so just rolling twice in a row strips armor completely

[pallid canyon]

you arent using it for the armor strip

[normal stirrup]

Not one enemy but every enemy there

[devout burrow]

circumvent is the same shi as that one operator arcane that strips overguard
by the time you do these actions you could have killed the room 5 times over

[restive warren]

It's mid if you can't group stuff up or huh ain't in tight space I guess could be an good alternative

[normal stirrup]

Yeah

[devout burrow]

but at least circumvent gives survivability

[true kayak]

The range is low though

[pallid canyon]

circumvents pretty good for strip if you’re using pull/grouping

[restive warren]

Yeah people use it for the survivability like Drascho said

[normal stirrup]

It's all the enemies that matter

[pallid canyon]

outside of that its a survival tool

[restive warren]

The rest is just somewhat for convenience

[lofty garden]

Just use Hildryn

[pallid canyon]

i was pretty excited for it but after its release I just never end up using it

[normal stirrup]

For what

[restive warren]

Yes

[pallid canyon]

I think I slotted in on Dagath just to pass time until 3’s cooldown ends

[true kayak]

I use it in exa for easy survivability if it’s on a frame I don’t play much

[pallid canyon]

i use it on nobody else

[lofty garden]

E V E R Y T H I N G (except infested)

[restive warren]

🙏🏻

[true kayak]

She can go for a while against infested with raksa

[restive warren]

Now if only that one arcane also canceled any toxin dmg in general that'd be fantastic

[normal stirrup]

I use it on basically every frame that doesn't have built in tanking capabilities

[lavish herald]

did someone actually say something about hildryn or did you just mention her randomly

[lofty garden]

Hildryn armor strips rooms with a single Pillage

[pallid canyon]

The only frame i dont active gate on is Grendel

[true kayak]

Pillage is probably the best armor strip ability in the game

[normal stirrup]

Spreading the word

[true kayak]

What about inaros?

[pallid canyon]

dont play em

[devout burrow]

terrify would like a word

[restive warren]

You need to be ready for IceStorm to mention Hildryn at least once a day. To be fair she's really strong

[pallid canyon]

Cant speak on frames I dont play

[lofty garden]

While flying above everything (including Jackal), while murdering from the air.

[warm monolith]

How much does it strip?

[true kayak]

I don’t like terrify making enemies run away
And don’t want to be forced into the augment