gameplay-discussion

[lost geyser]

theres a list on the wiki u can find

then just see what matches

or, OR, just check ur end of mission rewards

[fair flame]

rate this loadout. (it is effective in steel path)

[oblique sequoia]

Is that all Parkour Speed?

[lost geyser]

dera vandal?

is it really that good

[fair flame]

ORBS

[hidden whale]

generally all weapons can be modded to function in SP

they dont have to be top tier

[wild vale]

stug

incarna

[lost geyser]

i find dera pretty clunky to use so

[red path]

is there any functional difference between k-drive parts?

[fair flame]

none

[icy summit]

guys how to get wisp marie honoria?

[wild vale]

no multi shot 🙁

[fair flame]

rizz her up right

[oblique sequoia]

I'm never getting those bc I'm not breaking up with Roathe LMAO

[lavish herald]

hi! so am I able to change out these incarnon evolutions

[oblique sequoia]

All the way to the bath, yes

[lavish herald]

or are they...permanent

[lost geyser]

u can change them

[oblique sequoia]

If you click on them, you can change the evolution

[lavish herald]

it's that easy? no extra resource to be spent?

[oblique sequoia]

Nope. Once you unlock the evo, it's free real estate

It works when you have 2 weapons with the same Incarnon, too

No need to unlock the evos again, you can just apply them to the second weapon outright

[opal veldt]

Update from last night,
I got my controls all figured out on steam deck!
Looking with gyro is actually pretty good

[celest snow]

um, I need to farm entrati lanthorns for zariman, how do I farm them are they only bounty rewards?

[opal veldt]

I also have jump, sprint, ability menu, and a crouch/slide/roll on the back buttons

[lavish herald]

the 120 plat thing from the dude on zariman

complete waste of plat?

[lost geyser]

which

the built incarnon?

[lavish herald]

yep

[lost geyser]

just do circuit

[lavish herald]

omke

I was confused what his purpose was

[shy wedge]

if you don't want to grind for a couple of hours

[red path]

they are just rare drops in zariman, like orokin cells on saturn

[hushed marsh]

do points from this current thermia fractures event carry onto the next?

[shy wedge]

yes

[lavish herald]

do I have to go back to that dude each time I do a challenge

doing the lex prime stuff rn

[lost geyser]

they drop in cavia bounties too

or like murmur tilesets

[wide maple]

Does being undetected means that I just have to avoid scanners/cameras?

[marsh linden]

No detection at all, not even enemies

Dunno how much of the minimap mobile can see but when enemies turn from empty arrows to full arrows on the minimap

[hushed marsh]

ty

[lost geyser]

lowkey use a cipher for that one

[wide maple]

If I join someone and leech, will it work?

[lost geyser]

if they get detected its cooked i think

[gaunt solstice]

how good is bronco incarnon

[marsh linden]

Doing it in mp just adds more variables

[wide maple]

I guess I can try to be very slow and use silent weapons or something

[lost geyser]

if ur asking about this week's incarnon's its like the worst of the bunch

[wild vale]

also be careful of companions

[lavish herald]

I wonder what next week'll bring

[gaunt solstice]

the best magistar and ceramic?

[lost geyser]

i chose those 2 yea

i forget what the other 2 are

[wide maple]

I had to do survival with bleeding dragon key, without killing a single enemy. (I guess it's worse than doing stealthy extermination)

[hushed marsh]

so is the kuva nukor just that much more powerful than the tenet glaxion or am I crazy

[quaint brook]

no

[gaunt solstice]

boltor and lex

[wide maple]

I will just unequip it

[quaint brook]

built right the knukor hits like a truck compared to the tglaxion

[wild vale]

no, nukor is secondary / tent glax is prim

[hushed marsh]

that's what I meant, sorry

seems weird to have two kuva weapons but the secondary is way stronger than the primary

[quaint brook]

I mean, its not everyday where a weapon can easily obtain 9x CD

[hidden whale]

secondaries are generally stronger because they have better arcane options

[gusty turtle]

Secondaries have a long history of being better than primaries

And always having higher priority in getting cool and unique stuff

[hushed marsh]

if I were to choose a primary weapon on par with the kuva nukor, what should I aim for?

[hidden whale]

furis incarnon

[gusty turtle]

Furis is a secondary

[hidden whale]

oh kekw

uhm smth with heat primary? 🤔

idk if there are any good heat ones for primary

[hushed marsh]

Been playing around with the cedo prime and trumna prime, still doesn't seem to compare

[quaint brook]

correction 11.7x CD

[oblique sequoia]

Can you show me what you did? I can never set my gyro up properly 😭

[hidden whale]

torid incarnon is probably the easiest for fodder clear but its not the most powerful option

maybe latron incarnon with double tap augment

[gusty turtle]

Kind of hilarious how it takes an incarnon to compare something to nukor among primaries

[hidden whale]

well heat inherit is just busted

[zealous quarry]

No

[hushed marsh]

what's hilarious is that I just wanted an upgrade from my Atomos, but instead I got a weapon that ruined all others for me

[zealous quarry]

Its in the menu while you're in arsenal

[hidden whale]

also enervate is insane on knukor

[gusty turtle]

Citrine

[hidden whale]

oh nataruk is also nice

bubonico is also good

[hushed marsh]

should I change my elec inherit knukor to heat?

[hidden whale]

i think people go for magnetic

for the extra status to count for galv shot

[lost geyser]

lex is pretty good, so is boltor

but yeah overall best 2 are prolly the melees

[hushed marsh]

huh, alright. magnetic it is

[zealous quarry]

One is solely a slam spammer and the other one used to be good as a stat stick but now is just kinda John melee

[lavish herald]

wait the incarnon forms have a limit on em?

[zealous quarry]

I'd went for boltor and lex personally. Melees are all good, weapons on the other hand

[gusty turtle]

Huh? Inherit only works on heat

[zealous quarry]

No you pick 2 a week from circuit

[lavish herald]

no I meant, the use limit

[hushed marsh]

mb, I conflated inherit with progenitor

[gusty turtle]

No, just charge and discharge

[lavish herald]

I thought once you got them to incarnon they'd be permanent for the mission

[gusty turtle]

Nope

You hit enemy in the head, it fills a bar

You use alt fire to transform, the bar acts as ammo for the transformation

[heady copper]

i hit you in head 👊

[gusty turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[slender sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1485431467713626124/1485432437252030607/Thermal_Fracture_Sniper_gif.gif?ex=69c28103&is=69c12f83&hm=169d68227897aac58286a09144169caa2b6df462f7353e5d45099c0b75b9ad15&

[gusty turtle]

Why do you keep hitting on me Omni

[heady copper]

WHAT

[gusty turtle]

It's you every single time, hitting me

[fair ibex]

abuse 🙁

[gusty turtle]

Yes

[fair ibex]

nice i finished my nightweave now i got 2 weeksish to stack up on nitian

[hushed marsh]

its two weeks til the next rotation?

[fair ibex]

its the 8th

[hushed marsh]

ah, damn

[opal veldt]

I use the "action mouse" (theres two, I just use the first) for gyro, and then go into its settings and deselect the buttons, so its always active

[heady copper]

hitting and hitting on are quite different

[atomic wind]

What would you reccomend?

[gusty turtle]

It's hard to tell the difference with you

[heady copper]

you're so mean to me

[heady copper]

octavia is probably the better frame but nidus is the hardest to get

[gusty turtle]

👊

[glossy violet]

nidus and octavia can't be that bad

[gusty turtle]

How does it feel

[heady copper]

👊 👊 👊

not good enough

[gusty turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-7808278230826900604

[hushed marsh]

is the Kuva Bramma still good?

[lost geyser]

the slam spammer lowkey carries u through 80-90% of content without using much braincells

[fair ibex]

is the big giant hammer thing?

[lost geyser]

magistar yes

[fair ibex]

might be fun

[slender sparrow]

Yeah.
But not if you used it to mindlessly spam around,
no matter if there are actually enemies present or not.
Because DE nuked it's ammo 3 years ago.

[lost geyser]

i think slampotes is slightly better cuz its good right out the gate without having to charge incarnon but magistar is also just really good

[hushed marsh]

gotcha, ty

[gusty turtle]

It's still extremely destructive. But it has absolutely abysmal ammo count so you can't spam it

You can also use cyte and ruin everything ammo nerfs have done

[hushed marsh]

hah, duly noted

[devout burrow]

unless DE fixes sampotes magistar is still much much better

[fair ibex]

i like the idea of a giant hammer, was sort of frame would slam builds suit?

[mossy wyvern]

What do u guys think is the best way of getting plat? Farming relics and sell the parts?

[whole otter]

this is horse shit

[eager pond]

huge agree

[lofty garden]

Can't use horses there, so..

[red path]

that's easiest way, you can also farm aya and open vaulted relics
also farming arcanes and some relatively rare mods

[lost geyser]

any frame honestly, doesnt need much help to be strong

[lofty garden]

Shouldn't need the last symbol, though

[oblique sequoia]

Bro what the hell... That's so annoying 😭

[lost geyser]

but for synergy - wukong, kullervo maybe, other melee frames without their own super strong exalted

[mossy wyvern]

Tysm, i didnt know about the vaulted thing

[opal veldt]

Did you get my ping?

[red path]

varzia in maroo bazar on mars (or in prime resurgence section in market) sell specific vaulted relics for aya

[wild vale]

you missing surviablity / rolling guard

[oblique sequoia]

I did! Thanks, I'll try it out when I get the chance. Sorry I didn't reply, I got preoccupied

[shy wedge]

you can also just use the in-game market in your ship

[opal veldt]

Its fine! Hope it works out. Ill try to send a screenshot of my melee mode and regular game layout later

[oblique sequoia]

Thank you!

[tidal plover]

I get that how?

[shy wedge]

my Volt

Primed mods can just use the normal version

[lost geyser]

34% range 🥀 bros range doesnt even cover himself atp

[shy wedge]

its weapon platform

why would I care about range

[wild vale]

arbitration thats when you complete whole star chart normal stage

[lost geyser]

i know i was just noting a 34% range lol

[wild vale]

or buy plat

[lost geyser]

whats the shard setup u have on it?

[gaunt solstice]

dawg waht is that health

[shy wedge]

Steel Charge is just there because I don't want to change polarity

[wild vale]

hes using cata shield

i prefer rolling guard

[lost geyser]

bro will die from a slight gust

[gaunt solstice]

that lowers health this low?

[shy wedge]

that's just Volt's base health

[wild vale]

no no no volt is just glass frame

[shy wedge]

you can also just go lazy shieldgate or Arcane Circumvent

[tidal plover]

Why is Catalysing Shields here?

[wild vale]

thats normal health

[shy wedge]

Augur Secrets is a flex mod there

[wild vale]

cata is his surviability

[shy wedge]

you can just put Rolling Guard there if you want

[wild vale]

mine is rolling guard

difference is

[lost geyser]

whats handspring do

[wild vale]

rolling guard cleans toxin

[wild vale]

cata only work if your shield broke

[shy wedge]

just a budget PSF

[tidal plover]

Here are the actual stats

[shy wedge]

you can change it to something else

[shy wedge]

you can also do this + Aegis if you have the arcane

or do Arcane Circumvent + Rolling Guard

[tidal plover]

Is there something wrong with using Cunning Drift?

[shy wedge]

or do Cata + Rolling Guard

[lost geyser]

my aegis is not high enough ranked rn

whats vigi vigor do again

[shy wedge]

for weapons platform, the ability range is wasted

[tidal plover]

So I put Power Drift instead?

[shy wedge]

same as Fast Deflection

just lower stats

[shy wedge]

better

or if you hate getting knock downed, then use Handspring like me

[lost geyser]

hmm ok

[hushed marsh]

every time I start hunting for a kuva weapon I think I should have just payed like 20 plat for one

[shy wedge]

if you lazy shield gating route, you can also do Sure Footed + Fortitude. Fortitude makes it 100% like PSF + you get 100% shield recharge for passive gating.

[fair ibex]

ageis works at rank 0 btw

[shy wedge]

Redirection is good as well since Volt shield is high

[lost geyser]

ye ik but not super consistent at R0

[shy wedge]

there are tons of ways to make Volt survive it's just a matter of preference

[fair ibex]

from what ive read the difference is negligible

[hushed marsh]

note that steel path level surv isn't quite necessary yet

[shy wedge]

I run passive gating for bounties, active gating on harder content

if you like rolling then do Arcane Circumvent it's really good ez shields + you strip enemy

[gusty turtle]

Some frames have so much cc you can get away with passive gating in most content

[shy wedge]

nah its fine at R0

you want the hidden passive

[lost geyser]

hidden what now

[gaunt solstice]

is synoid gammacor or normal gammacor worth the incarnon?

[shy wedge]

Has a hidden stat that sets shield recharge delay to 0 seconds while active. This causes the players shields to constantly regenerate, even when being damaged.

[lost geyser]

active gating is augur right

[lost geyser]

ye but like it doesnt activate that often now does it

especially at R0

like if im constantly under threat

then once the timer runs out im just cooked

[shy wedge]

yeah, Catalyzing Shields + Augur/Brief Respite or if the energy cost is high enough that you get max shield in one cast, you can ditch Catalyzing Shields

[shy wedge]

it's 3% on all ranks

[gusty turtle]

Augur/brief respite or more energy economy if a frame already has shield generation in abilities

[lost geyser]

oh fr

that sucks

[shy wedge]

the shield recharge is the one that increases

[devout burrow]

aegis procs pretty often

dont get fooled by the 3%

[shy wedge]

3% for +5% shield recharge at R0 vs 3% for +30% shield recharge at R5

[gusty turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gambling-gambler-gif-572068894331490223

You rn

[devout burrow]

I mean aegis isnt your main survivability

[shy wedge]

^ it's there for the hidden stat

[devout burrow]

its more of a "oh aegis procced time to kill everything around me without having to worry about shield gating" situation

[shy wedge]

so your shield recharge mods just goes super saiyan

[gusty turtle]

Sorry I'm just too Lavos brained

Lazy gating doesn't register as being able to use even a single augur mod in my head

[lost geyser]

ah ok thats why people use it ig

ur just invincible for a while

[devout burrow]

yes

[gusty turtle]

Yeah

And invincible for even longer if you know the tech

[lost geyser]

what tech

[gusty turtle]

The Gauss tech

[lost geyser]

do share

[shy wedge]

Gauss bug*

[gusty turtle]

True

[devout burrow]

gauss feature*

[gusty turtle]

Shield recharge delay has an internal cap. Aegis proc removes it for the duration. If you get some delay over the cap by external means, it gets snapshotted

[fair ibex]

i need to change my gyre to active gating from lazy for SP , i suck to much otherwise

[gusty turtle]

This way Gauss can get 0s recharge delay and just sit with permanent aegis

[devout burrow]

this only works on gauss tho afaik

[gusty turtle]

There's another

[devout burrow]

it doesnt work on jade I think

[shy wedge]

apparently it works with Fass Canticle as well

[gusty turtle]

Yes

[shy wedge]

as long as you reach 100% shield recharge delay

[gusty turtle]

Fass Canticle also works, that's what I've been talking about

[shy wedge]

Immortal Dante 60k Overguard + Aegis bug 🗣️ 🔥

[lost geyser]

Sorry can u dumb that down for me

[gusty turtle]

You basically just need to tag enemies with the grimoire as a caster

[lost geyser]

Gyre active gating by throwing balls everywhere

[fair ibex]

yeah

i was just enjoying doing literally nothing 😛

took him to sp and didnt work out quite as well

[gusty turtle]

Shield recharge delay dictates how fast shield begins to recharge after not taking damage. It's capped at 80% of delay removed.

Aegis grants you invulnerability by setting delay at 100% for the duration, bypassing the cap and letting you never run out of shields by technicality

If you gain recharge delay above 80% during the Aegis duration, it stays until you lose the extra delay reduction. This allows you to hit 100% delay reduction and have permanent aegis type invulnerability

[shy wedge]

You constantly regen shield even when damaged during the duration of Arcane Aegis but reaching 100% or more shield recharge delay makes that hidden passive stay even after the duration ends.

[mossy wyvern]

Tysm

[shy wedge]

Oh it's not 100% and just 80%? My bad on that part

[fair ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-reaction-me-too-yes-acknowledge-me-gif-27117775

[shy wedge]

ah because it's capped at 80% no matter what

[fair ibex]

Everyone in maroos rn

[gusty turtle]

Yeah, aegis is just a pass to have higher recharge delay

That's how immortality on Gauss is achieved. You smuggle your passive over the cap while the aegis lasts

[lost geyser]

how does gauss do that?

[shy wedge]

bruh xd

[gusty turtle]

His passive gives him extra recharge delay based on the battery

[lost geyser]

so as long as his battery is redlined hes immortal

[gusty turtle]

Well, toxin still kills you

But yeah

[heady copper]

i kills you 👊

[lost geyser]

grineer

[shy wedge]

Toxin enemies laughing

[lost geyser]

infested

[hushed marsh]

subjekkt found

[gusty turtle]

Baseline, you get 75% recharge delay from two mods

You need at least 25% more to make it work

[atomic wind]

Should i just do hijack missions in a squad i was moving the payload when i could and it wasn't enough

[shy wedge]

bruh yesterday I was thinking of something else with the hands and was about to type in the chat but thankfully the intrusive thoughts didn't go through or else I'm probably banned now

[fair ibex]

hahahah

[gusty turtle]

Technically Jade can also achieve this

[atomic wind]

927 shield and i can't get it to the end

[gusty turtle]

But her recharge delay bonus is extremely low and you miss out on her funny dmg songs

Fass Canticle works as long as you kill an enemy tagged by Grimoire every 15s while holding said Grimoire

[lost geyser]

how many canticles can u slap on the book at once?

[gusty turtle]

1 exilus, 1 normal

Dante has no limit

[lost geyser]

there are exilus canticles? lmao

where do they drop from

[gusty turtle]

Yeah, Fass is exilus

[gusty turtle]

They all drop from mirror def on Deimos

[tidal plover]

Yeah okay so I’m totally lost on whats going on.

[lost geyser]

rot c i assume?

[red path]

all canticle mods are exilus, invocation mods are normal

[gusty turtle]

Exilus canticle mods activate a non stackable effect upon killing an enemy tagged by Grimoire.

Invocation mods give a stackable stat buff dependent on how many enemies you hit with an alt fire

Wait right

[red path]

yes, I just bought a bundle from market

[lost geyser]

ohhh ok

are the stat buffs permanent on on timers

[gusty turtle]

On timers

[lost geyser]

shame

[tidal plover]

What the hell have I missed about my Volt Build if anything?

[red path]

I use jahu canticle on book and lohk on noctua

[gusty turtle]

Here they are

Dante has no limits, he can just put all of them and use his grimoire as a buff stick

It's very easy too, because for some reason wordwarden counts as his exalted hits and it accounts for mods

[red path]

I don't use noctua directly so I only put one canticle mod, others are damage mods

[atomic wind]

I don't know if I'm missing something or what i was moving it literally the whole time i could i charged my shield for like 5 seconds still it wasn't enough xddd idk il just do it in a squad

Hijack is so ass

[lost geyser]

do people normally do that for dante or do they build his grimoire for damage

[gusty turtle]

People normally don't have more than 1 or 2 tome mods

Because they're hard to get

[red path]

all you need is a frame without shields like inaros that can regen hp, or just have a lot of it, or a way to regen shields with abilities, for example hildryn pillage and harrow forgot-chains-ability-name, both are subsumes

[lost geyser]

ah is the drop rate that garbage

[gusty turtle]

Yeah

And wfm prices are so inflated it's cheaper to buy them in a pack from in-game market

[lost geyser]

wow maybe i farm that for plat

[shy wedge]

I use Protea on Hijack

[atomic wind]

I was literally moving payload the whole time

[shy wedge]

infinite shield hack with her fan grenades

you can perma stay on the payload

[gusty turtle]

Everything I said also applies to tennokai

1:1

[lost geyser]

tennokai is like 40p if u get lucky on the good ones otherwise its like 8p only

whats the prices of the canticles?

[gusty turtle]

About the same

[lost geyser]

oh so theres some thats way more expensive?

[gusty turtle]

Yeah

[lost geyser]

i was lucky i got disciplines merit on my first rot c lol

[gusty turtle]

Fass is cheap, for an example. Str one is very expensive

[lost geyser]

ahh ok

[fair ibex]

ugh i need to get some more plat so i can buy the tennokai pack

roll on 25th

[lost geyser]

just farm alchemy

its not that hard to do tbf

goes pretty fast if ur squad has braincells

[true kayak]

And mirror defense was already a hated game mode from citrine
Putting tome mods behind it made it worse

[gusty turtle]

If

[fair ibex]

i did some but its like 5 alchemy rounds

[gusty turtle]

I swear they really need to add the Netracell mechanic to it

So you could summon a necramech eximus to shorten the timer on kill

[true kayak]

People were begging for that for survival, but instead we’re getting the stupid code thing

[red path]

you know it's abused now to shorten duration for free

[atomic wind]

1,273 shield if that won't work im exploding

[lost geyser]

why do people hate mirror defense?

[true kayak]

Longest time between rotations

Very low drop rates for anything useful

[lofty garden]

Because the drops people care about are in Rotation C, something you have to play for ~25min to get to.

[lost geyser]

oof

whats the drop rate for citrine farm?

[lofty garden]

Oh, Citrine's even worse.

[lost geyser]

and how much pity currency do i get

[lofty garden]

You will accumulate enough pity currency and blueprints after several hours of gameplay.

[true kayak]

Citrine at least has pity

[red path]

with a def player and glyph player you can get 150-180 of each crystal per rotation C on sp tyana pass

[true kayak]

Tome mods don’t

[gusty turtle]

Yeah, you can just bruteforce citrine. You're not bruteforcing tome mods

[red path]

solo, it's around 130

[lofty garden]

There's no pity for Tome mods. They've fixed stuff like this in the past, so I'm going to hold out hope they will in the future.

[true kayak]

I’m not

[gusty turtle]

They added a platinum pack for Tome mods and Tennokai respectively

So I'm not holding my hopes up

[lost geyser]

def and glyph player?

i forget how the tyana pass works tbf

[red path]

one defend, one fly around and collect crystals/glyphs

[lost geyser]

havent done it in a while

[tribal gyro]

Idk how I got a tome mode but I got the ability strength one

[true kayak]

Glyph player is usually titania

[shy wedge]

Uh what's the exact % for the Roar Subsume breakpoint again?

[true kayak]

On sevagoth?

255

[gusty turtle]

Just use viral tempest fr

It fits his sea theme

[shy wedge]

Mirror Defense rotation C

[lofty garden]

In regular mode, you just all use Titania. In SP, you need some crystal defense (for Tyana Pass)

[shy wedge]

no just to get the full value

like general

[true kayak]

What full value?

[lost geyser]

cool, my titanias just about done building

[true kayak]

It’s not capped

[lost geyser]

also is there any way to up the dur for razorwing blitz or do i just have to keep spamming her 1 or 2 😭

[true kayak]

Gloomva my beloved

[gusty turtle]

The glyph collector is the first person to remember they have operator mode

[shy wedge]

It's not capped?

[atomic wind]

Now I did it with half hp on the payload and i was killing enemies too slow or smth idk

[shy wedge]

oh ok I thought Roar subsume was capped

[lofty garden]

I believe people have mentioned that killing is needed to get crystals to spawn, so you'll need to do some actual murdering instead of relying on razor files.

[atomic wind]

whatever i ofically hate hijack : )

[red path]

no, I was getting 400%+ roar buff in perrita

[gusty turtle]

Roar isn't capped, it's just weaker iirc?

[lofty garden]

Hijack is easy.

hijack in Sortie isn't quite as easy.

[cyan aspen]

duration stat, maintain uptime with 1 you can mostly ignore 2

[true kayak]

Nope
30% instead of 50 though

[lost geyser]

oh so titania's dur stat does affect the dur of blitz?

[cyan aspen]

yyyes

[true kayak]

Yes

[lost geyser]

sweet

[gusty turtle]

You can also shieldgate with roar

[true kayak]

That needs the augment

[cyan aspen]

strength too affects blitz effectiveness

[gusty turtle]

Yes and

[true kayak]

I hate that augment

[lofty garden]

Duration and Efficiency reduce the channeling cost of Razorwing.

[gusty turtle]

Piercing roar and it literally procs puncture

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[true kayak]

I forgot puncture was the best status in the game, my bad

But also why roar when xata’s?

[gusty turtle]

You're not one of those punture removal people are you

[red path]

roar buff ability damage, xata's don't

[true kayak]

Caster titania?

With what, razorflies?

[gusty turtle]

Everyone knows that you subsume over 4 with roar, add precision intensify and make up for all the str lost

[deep oasis]

I'm thinking of a Mecha Build for Citrine. Any advice/comments so far? Could use some guidance.

[gusty turtle]

[cyan aspen]

what are we even talking about

[gusty turtle]

Roar brainrot

[cyan aspen]

I love roar brainrot

I slap ts on every frame

[true kayak]

I feel like you won’t get much use out of either pack leader or reinforced bond

[cyan aspen]

try a #1197322290166251680 thread

[deep oasis]

@true kayak Fire rate = bad or is it unlikely to be up much?

Not sure why pack leader was even in here

[true kayak]

Pack leader requires consistent use of melees, reinforced bond only benefits primaries and secondaries

[tidal plover]

@true kayak Can I get your opinion on this? Replace Cunning with Power Drift

[deep oasis]

yar, my bad. i dropped pack leader for Contagious bond

[true kayak]

Go power drift

[deep oasis]

@true kayak Thanks for the advice, totally missed that 🙂

[queen plume]

What do I even do with Maphica after I bought all the arcanes and Uriel? Not interested in the weapons tbh

Just arcane fodder for Loid?

[lost geyser]

arcanes to sell

[queen plume]

Or that

[tidal plover]

I did, just curious if the build is passable for where I’m at

[true kayak]

Should be fine

[stark wedge]

who should i pick on this week's rotation?

[red path]

they all similarly difficult to farm

[stark wedge]

ahh alr thanks

[red path]

for octavia you will also need to do the quest, you won't be able to build her with just doing duviri

[fair ibex]

i quite enjoyed her quest tbh

[tidal plover]

THERMITE ROUNDS IS GOOD RIGHT?

[red path]

yes, it's a 60/60 mod so it has some uses

[true kayak]

Heat 60/60s aren’t that useful tbh
Some weapons like them, but not many

[tidal plover]

Outta the three on Circuit Rotation, which is the most useful Subsume?

[lost geyser]

whats the most used 60/60

[red path]

probably harrow, but still pretty niche

[placid bloom]

yo can anyone help me out i was finishing up my mastery when i notice there is someone with 75k drifter intrinsics while i only have 60 k any idea where i can get the rest?

[red path]

you probably misssaw, there is only 60k drifter intrinsics, but 75k rj intrinsics

[pastel epoch]

question, is temporal archimedia solo or can be done with a squad?

[red path]

can be done in squad, and it has pub matchmaking

[tidal plover]

If they are all equally annoying then does it matter?

[pastel epoch]

i tried it out for the first time last week and was doing okay solo at first but turns out nokko isnt the best with defense which is unfortunate so i might need to queue for it

[pastel epoch]

ooooo okay, i just need to set myself to public for that right?

[red path]

yes

[pastel epoch]

thank youuu <3

any tips for ta?

[tidal plover]

I chose Nidus, was that stupid?

[pastel epoch]

actually, in ur opinion is it better to spend search pulses on unlocking ta or just use them all on netracells for archon shard farming?

[cyan aspen]

valkyr is so wonky

[red path]

looks like some hacker there, because there is only 4 intrinsics options for drifter, and 5 in rj

[placid bloom]

are you sure

maybe it is something hidden

[pallid talon]

what's da wonk

[torn egret]

valkyr is fine

[red path]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Mastery_Rank#Total_Mastery

[torn egret]

you jump in, press your yell, yell, and yell button

[cyan aspen]

idk her 1 is so iffy

[torn egret]

???

[cyan aspen]

why does she jump like that

[torn egret]

it's very smooth

[rapid bear]

Any weapon enjoying blast procs?

[torn egret]

you can jump out of it mid flight

[pallid talon]

i haven't used her ripline in so long lol

[torn egret]

viral heat is good i guess?

I surprisingly am lacking a 60/60 primary mod

[red path]

you want 90% heat mod for viral heat

[rapid bear]

I like Valkyr ripline, good speed buff for straight corridors

[torn egret]

for heat

[pastel epoch]

its funny i see people hating her ripline but its my favourite thing, if i could subsume it on every frame i have i would ahah

makes movement very fun and easy

[pallid talon]

it's also a nice grouping tool

[torn egret]

never needed that

[rapid bear]

Yeah, imagine low mobility frames going full spiderman movement

[red path]

on secondary you even want primed heat mod

[pastel epoch]

extremely esp for making melee combo go up fast

[pastel epoch]

RIGHT! you can spiderman around isnt that awesome!

[cyan aspen]

are we playing the same valkyr

[rapid bear]

And with augment it's null energy economy

[cyan aspen]

I don't think I've gotten a 2x combo since I started using her

[rapid bear]

Niche, but nice

[deep oasis]

So, it's "OKAY". I think I need a different primary for this to work better. Is there a CO primary?

[pallid talon]

there's galv aptitude for a condition overload on primary

[red path]

cedo

[pallid talon]

nataruk is a multco weapon, if that's what you're asking

[surreal saddle]

Are group invitations bugged?

[deep oasis]

Using Cedo and Galv. Was hoping there was an incarnon primary that had it.

[atomic wind]

Best focus school for mainly playing warframe and not using operator that much, only for buff or smth

?

[red path]

they all have some passive buff for the frame, zenurik give periodic free ability cast, madurai increase IPS on all weapons, naramon give slower melee combo decay

[deep oasis]

Soma has it (Fatal Attraction) but its in the same boat os the Cedo. Maybe it'll work better thought.

[red path]

unairu give 200 armor, vazarin give instant ally revives

[floral osprey]

#game-updates message

[sturdy elk]

ive been using uriel with the fulmin and its pretty good but should I be using his signature rifle and leveling that up instead?

[lofty garden]

should for the MR

then put it on the shelf

[floral osprey]

up to you, worth doing it just for the MR xp but if you dont end up liking the weapon then dont feel forced to use it

[red path]

fulmin is solid choice for general play

[gusty turtle]

Battery magazine basically means you'll be able to kill anything

... sooner or later

[tidal plover]

Also whats the point of Operator Mode?

[hidden whale]

in warframe theres no such thing as should u use their signature weapon. its all abt what u enjoy my friend

some people use weapons for looks

[sturdy elk]

been enjoying the fulmin a lot but going to upgrade the other weapons I have for the MR

[tidal plover]

Also getting Natural Talent for free is pretty good right?

[hidden whale]

doing it for mr is always nice. since u dont invest forma on it

[hidden whale]

id say it is a nice qol i just slot in tao yellow myself

operator modes are mostly used for specifc mode which require their void dmg

like zariman missions and eidolon

[red path]

before war within it activates focus school passive, after that quest it allows you to cast operator abilities

[hidden whale]

u can also use it to res yourself if u have the school for it

[coarse basin]

its ok

[hidden whale]

void strike gives u one big dmg which is also cool to have

[shy wedge]

Natural Talent isn't as good as before since Casting Speed shards exist now

I still use it on my Spy Wukong though

[trim bobcat]

How do you even get it for free?

Wasn't it dropped in interception or Gustag Three?

[shy wedge]

I mean that's free

[hidden whale]

on switching to operator one of the schools give that abiltiy

its like 40s or so

[shy wedge]

drop = free

or maybe someone gifted it

[trim bobcat]

Nah, the drops are moderate

[shy wedge]

I got my Natural Talent from a guildmate xd

[hidden whale]

oh they meant the mod

[shy wedge]

it's still free though since you didn't pay anything

[coarse basin]

operator abilities, amp damage for eidolons and angels, void slinging, reviving teammates

what am I missing

[trim bobcat]

That's true, but I was thinking "free" as a term that is easy to spawn

[coarse basin]

last gasp

[shy wedge]

that's a stretch

or at least on the context of the conversation

dude hasn't even been doing his quests

most likely someone traded it for free

[fair ibex]

i use operator more and more often the more i play

[tidal plover]

Circuit Reward.

[fair ibex]

its just a cool active things to do

[shy wedge]

oh Circuit Reward that's rare

[tidal plover]

🤷 Happy to have it so thats nice xD

[shy wedge]

like 1-2%

[tidal plover]

Thanks for explaining

[shy wedge]

Gustag Three is the best way to get it

[silk arch]

There a way to reduce the zoom?

[shy wedge]

negative zoom riven

[silk arch]

Fair enough

[shy wedge]

try maxing field of view

although that's not really for zoom

it helps though

I want to farm Rauta but I want to see the Prime announcement first

[tidal plover]

Well I have the mod so ye…don’t need copies yet

[shy wedge]

maybe they skip to Kullervo

[silk arch]

When is the announcement anyways

[glad aspen]

does my Lich have a ephemera?

[shy wedge]

should be near but I can't remember

[coarse basin]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[coarse basin]

yes

[red path]

iirc, there is only one mod for general negative zoom, and it's only for rubico

[shy wedge]

I vaguely remember hearing them say they will announce the next prime soon in one of their recent streams

[red path]

all others reduce zoom only in aim-glide

[shy wedge]

but it was on background so I am not focused about it

[glad aspen]

holy crap really? this'll be my first ever Lich ephemera outside of the coda

[glad aspen]

I believe they'll be unveiling the next prime at PAX

[shy wedge]

I just want Rauta Prime tbh

[floral osprey]

recall hearing that they were gona anounce it, from a dev short, on the 28th? i think

[shy wedge]

Kullervo I am not interested with

the Rauta Prime I want because of my Nami Solo Incarnon

[silk arch]

I like how when i looked it up the 1st thing that pops up is
"Avoid Aiming"

[shy wedge]

I don't want to invest to normal Rauta

[floral osprey]

next prime is more than likely styanax so yall gona have to wait like atleast another 6 or so months for kurllevo prime

[shy wedge]

nah they will drop that Citrine because everyone hates her grind + gemussy meme so ez money on that prime access

or Voruna, people are very downbad on her as well

[floral osprey]

i mean they just droped gyre, so we get non female frame (styanax) then we get female frame (voruna is oldest non prime female frame) then well probably get kerllevo and citrine following a non repeating pattern of genders

(left side is non prime release order right is prime release order)

and then this is what the predicted release order is

since protea we swaped off the mm ff rotation

[shy wedge]

nah, gooners will win

Follie into another gooner bait prime frame their 2026 is on the green perma

[floral osprey]

gooners are gona be gooning to nipple tassle man

[coarse basin]

why did sev skip over xaku?

[floral osprey]

like the list of frames that ive seen people not talk about gooning to is as follows:

---

[shy wedge]

on the side note, I can do a Rauta no forma build and still hit the breakpoints needed for 1 mag dump = x12 combo

[coarse basin]

who goons to dante

[eager axle]

Xaku is non binary

[floral osprey]

idk, mby to solidify rotation or smthn?

[shy wedge]

1 forma if I want to put more fire rate

[gusty turtle]

On one hand, Styanax is an anniversary frame so him being a 50th prime would make sense. On the other hand, next prime gets a trailer and Styanax already had one

[floral osprey]

at the very least my friends in archamedias when im sitting there keeping them alive

[pallid talon]

just to prove you wrong

[shy wedge]

Light Novel enjoyers

they be having the wildest imagination ever

[lavish herald]

so I've done a bunch of codas now and I gotta ask, are the liches and.... whatever the corpus equivalent is, are they stronger than the codas?

[coarse basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/943632241676939304/1298999827061014549/caption-6-1.gif

[coarse basin]

no

but they're more annoying to do

[lavish herald]

or just more tedious(more attempts needed for whatever combination)

ah, got it

[real token]

which one to get ? ik its from dojo

[shy wedge]

Kuva and Tenet Liches = annoying to do
Coda Liches = bing chilling ezpz 10 clears a day + you get to hear a good song

[final depot]

id wait on the sisters and liches for the next update as there are a couple changes that make them bearable

[shy wedge]

get all

[pallid talon]

the plus side to the liches is that you have more control over your progenitor elements

[real token]

._.

[shy wedge]

like literally get all

[real token]

atleast tell me the best one ._.

[final depot]

you get 4 archwing slots

[shy wedge]

ez MR exp

[pallid talon]

the vices make this less relevant but you won't have to dump five forma into a weapon to get the one you like

[eager axle]

They're all pretty equal

[shy wedge]

all are good and have their niche

[real token]

okeh 👍

[red path]

amesha and itzal

[lavish herald]

wait wdym

[gusty turtle]

Amesha is immortal. Elytron can do damage

[real token]

what about gun and sword ?

[gusty turtle]

Itzal has invisibility

[final depot]

doesnt elytron nuke?

[pallid talon]

Eleanor sells elemental vices that let you change progenitor elements on adversary weapons at level 40

[lavish herald]

what's the catch

[pallid talon]

there is no catch, you just gotta have a level 40 adversary weapon

[lavish herald]

I really need to level up to mr17 so I can grab a pair of dual torxicas

[gusty turtle]

Level 40. You need 5 forma minimum on a weapon

[pallid talon]

the vices don't even reset your level

they're great, when you're there

[final depot]

kuva grattler or mausolon seem to be the go to for archguns, archmelees are pretty useless, so i guess whichever you end up liking?

[lavish herald]

w-why-?

[red path]

and you install it once to be able to switch element at any time

[shy wedge]

R5 Hex + you need to forma 5 times. But the forma isn't really wasted since that's extra MR exp + the Elemental Vice is permanent.

[gusty turtle]

Adversary weapons get 2 extra levels per forma

[pallid talon]

also they cost 50k standing apiece

[gusty turtle]

Vice only works at lvl40, so 5 forma

[lavish herald]

OHHH

[floral osprey]

so do nechramechs and the paracesis

[lavish herald]

okay I'm sleepy passing out

WAIT

is the Vesper 77 a good weapon

[pallid talon]

it's mid as hell

[lavish herald]

I regret snagging the Lex Incarnon

[pallid talon]

it's got a gas elemental mod

[lavish herald]

I do not like how it sounds

[pallid talon]

vesper 77 got a decent gas build if you really don't like running lavos

but lavos is so cool

[gusty turtle]

It's ok without an augment. It's pretty good with an augment.

[tidal plover]

Whats the point in Itzal?

[gusty turtle]

*if you really don't like running valence formation

[lavish herald]

good enough for me!

bought it with standing

[pallid talon]

someone in here somewhere is running a catalyze nuke build

[gusty turtle]

Augment is very expensive though

[lavish herald]

building now

how expensive and why

[pallid talon]

the augment is from the nightwave and it hasn't rotated back in yet

[shy wedge]

It's good imo. Others will say "mid" but when you say that out of 148 Secondary Weapons, that's already pretty good by itself.

[gusty turtle]

Yes. I play caster Lavos. I hate how 99% of Lavos builds are just Valence Formation builds with zero understanding of his kit application, and an attempt to crutch their inability to perform the loop with mecha set

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[shy wedge]

I mean comfortability is always #1 for the general audience

[red path]

I make it even more simple, I just don't play lavos at all

[gusty turtle]

It's not about comfort, it's about so many people committing to the "I'm a Lavos main" bit and then turns out they have absolutely no idea what he does

[sullen sleet]

You're the best btw

[pallid talon]

i use transmutation orb to give me archgun ammo and i do that

[shy wedge]

I mean saying " I am X main" just means that's their favorite and most played

[gusty turtle]

Like you can see a billion people spam Lavos propaganda and then they drool when you ask what his passing is

[shy wedge]

maining something doesn't really make you an expert on the technical aspect

[sullen sleet]

I'm not a lavos main simply because I don't want to fall into the Valence formation pitfall

[gusty turtle]

It's about "Lavos propaganda" mainly

I should phrase myself better

[sullen sleet]

If I wanted elemental bonus I'd just play Gauss LMAO

Literally free blast proc

[gusty turtle]

So many people spread it and then all they know about him is uhh valence formation go brrr

It's just so disingenuous

[pallid talon]

lavos is special tho because it's gas mod boost

so the procs are bigger with valence

[gusty turtle]

Not to mention that the only reason people use mecha on Lavos is because it's what they were told and not because there's any special synergy

[sullen sleet]

Huh

I see ..

[gusty turtle]

Any frame with focused damage over time is better at Mecha than Lavos ever will be

[sturdy elk]

what is an mk1 weapon

[gusty turtle]

Cheap worse alternative for homeless baby Tenno

[sturdy elk]

XD okay

[gusty turtle]

Valence Formation is also a universal bonus unlike 99% of elemental buffs

So you can apply it to literally anything remotely weapon related

From incarnons and archguns to breach surge and null star

[shy wedge]

worst version of the weapon but there's no crafting needed/involved

[gusty turtle]

Also

[shy wedge]

used for MR exp mostly

[gusty turtle]

Thank you :3c

[sullen sleet]

Lavos is not the best caster by a longshot but it's how he's meant to be played

[gusty turtle]

Yeah, he was always meant to be a gimmick caster

[sullen sleet]

I guess it's how I feel as with nuke sevagoth mains too

[red path]

lavos has too many buttons to press for me

[sullen sleet]

You play sevagoth but you only know how to press 1 and 2 instead of building shadow yk

[gusty turtle]

They went as far as not giving Lavos any sort of armor scaling tools to give him the proper caster feel

Instead literally all of his abilities come with CC effects

[sullen sleet]

I don't play nuke sevagoth I play shadow sevagoth

[gusty turtle]

Such a cool design, regardless of how ultimately effective it is compared to other caster frames

[gusty turtle]

Mecha set conditioned people into playing him wrong

If you have a Diriga, Moa or a Hound

You can pretty much offload 50% of your Catalyze setup efforts

Mecha does nothing extra for Lavos, it just makes up for you being shit at Catalyze

[red path]

I subsume over harrow 2 just to have one less timer to watch

[worn lion]

is there any reason why on call crew disabled ?

[sullen sleet]

Tazicor

[gusty turtle]

That covers Moa or Diriga

[sullen sleet]

Dang

[red path]

it should not be in normal gameplay, there was a bug on consoles idk if it's fixed

[gusty turtle]

I mean, they use sentinel weapons

[sullen sleet]

I mean TBF I prime with catalyzing probe

[gusty turtle]

It was pretty obvious

You need all your skills to actually prime fast enough

Playing caster lavos is one thing, ego tripping in a pub as one is another

[worn lion]

im in PC, but yeah i just unlocked on call crew

[shy wedge]

They should've shown the real DE sample sketches (the dark side)

[worn lion]

and wondered why i cant summon them in mission

[red path]

did you set a crew to be on call

[worn lion]

yes

[hushed marsh]

this particular lich is being very annoying. i have all three words on Mars and she will not pop up D:<

[red path]

and added gear to the wheel, hmm, strange, is it nnormal mission? not perita or descendia

[worn lion]

@red path normal

i tried ophalius(?) uranus, the place to farm tellurium

they cant be spawned

said on crew disabled

try another mission type, still disabled

[red path]

looks ok for me

[worn lion]

let me log back in again

[junior solar]

How do I get into this room?

[wide maple]

Is torid just good, or only incarnon?

[shy wedge]

Only when you have Incarnon adapter installed

[wide maple]

Alright, thanks anyway

[red path]

can't get where is that

[final depot]

vent in the ceiling i think

[red path]

I don't remember sanctum rooms by minimap images

[junior solar]

There is none

[hushed marsh]

Aright is there something that would prevent a kuva lich from spawning on a controlled tile set?

mine has been furious for the last four missions and I'm still stuck on Mars

[rain sparrow]

its just random chance mainly

[final depot]

do you have a crew assignedd to on call?

[rain sparrow]

later you can get a requiem ultimatum and force him to spawn in

[hushed marsh]

ff I forgot I had one of those

[rain sparrow]

yeah those help

next update you can buy them with riven slivers from palladino

[red path]

this does look like a vent-in-the-ceiling room, it's on your left side from the screenshot, over the railings

[red path]

just to make sure, you have this and this

[celest snow]

been trying to catch glutinox for like 3 hrs, any tips

[junior solar]

Okay, I'll check again next time I encounter it.

[junior solar]

Vome weather, fass residue bait, buy some luminous dye, fish in any surface river.

[hushed marsh]

Is there a big hand cannon like weapon besides Mesa''s regulators

[red path]

there is arm cannon, mesa regulators are pistols, they are not really big

shedu and bubonico

[tidal plover]

Okay I still don’t know what frame to try out next. I have multiple cooking in my Foundry but IDK who to choose.

[hushed marsh]

gotcha

[gusty turtle]

Mesa is very insecure about the size of her regulators

[floral osprey]

onos

[tidal plover]

HOLY CRAP DE SUPPORT IS AMAZING but ANYWAY, uhhhhhhhh. How do I decide what frame to try out next?

[hushed marsh]

oh that's cool

[hushed marsh]

just pick blindly. you'll try all of them at some point

[floral osprey]

pick a frame that has a cool ability or 2, try them out / build them a little, if you dont like it pick another frame

[tidal plover]

Okay quick question, does Ember's Healing Flame work on Subsume?

[pallid talon]

yes it just doesn't generate overguard

[tidal plover]

Is that bad or okay?

[pallid talon]

it's fine

a mod slot is a lot though for just healing

[tidal plover]

Was thinking of Subsuming it onto Protea Prime but 🤷 Ember sounds incredibly fun but apparently she is weak and her Prime honestly looks amazing but thats just my opinion.

[red path]

her look is her most strong part

and reason why ember is pretty expensive prime

[tidal plover]

Is 65 Plat expensive?

[red path]

considering how generally weak she is

[hushed marsh]

my girl got nerfed so hard

[red path]

also, ember was in big resurgence a while ago

price just slowly start to go up

[tidal plover]

😔 What do you mean by Weak?

[red path]

in steel path or high lvl content she can't really do much with her abilities both to kill mobs and survive
or she can, but it takes a lot of effort

[tidal plover]

Disappointing

[hushed marsh]

what are the things that make liches angrier?

[red path]

killing thralls in controlled nodes

[real token]

what caches ?

[red path]

sabotage hidden caches

[hushed marsh]

ah, okay. not just completing the nodes, then

so slower missions might be more efficient

[tidal plover]

How much is Sepsis/Chilling Claws generally going for on WFM?

The prices are so wildly different and I don't really know what is a "reasonable" price to put it at.

[red path]

~10p each on wfm

at rank 0

[hushed marsh]

lowest price is just your best bet

unless you want to wait a week for the price to maybe rise

by 1p

[rain sparrow]

on wfm just sort by lowest price and by who is online and just look at like the top 5-10 offers

[tidal plover]

They are Ranked Up to 210%, whatever that is.

[unborn spruce]

Is this a good place to talk about suggestions in regards to tradeable items?

[tidal plover]

Yeah I just kind of don't want to sell it for super cheap when it has some Endo Invested in it.

[red path]

if not maxed it's not much different than unranked

maxed r10 mods get ~40p increase

[tidal plover]

😔

BUGGER

[shy wedge]

It's hard to sell mods that are in the middle or a quarter away to max

It's either R0 or R10

That's what most people buy

[tidal plover]

I don't have the Endo to go to Rank 10 😭

[gilded patrol]

I think R8 might be the best middle spot and I recall selling some mods at r8 but yeah either do r0 or r10

[shy wedge]

R8 is still hard to sell

[red path]

that is whole reason people pay extra for maxed mod, if not maxed it's not different than r0, because people who buy maxed don't have endo

[hushed marsh]

gdi remind me to just buy a max rank primed mod instead of setting my endo on fire

[shy wedge]

Because R8 is super doable for midgame and above. R9 and R10 endo jump is what makes the mod really expensive.

At most, you could sell R8 if you make it cheap af

[red path]

primed mods have 1M credits tax btw

[real token]

guys is it worth buying a bad riven ? and thenr reroll it

[red path]

if it's for a weapon you like - sure

[real token]

mkay

[shy wedge]

If you're gonna use it long term then why not

[tidal plover]

I'm just kinda looking to sell off Sepsis/Chilling Claws cause I have Shocking Claws and IDK how to price it when it's kinda partially invested in ya know?

[hushed marsh]

credits are easier than endo from my perspective

[shy wedge]

Bought a Nami Solo riven for 30p and self reroll it

[real token]

well i still have 2 mr ranks to go and then i'll be able to build phantasma prime

3 mr for cedo

[gilded patrol]

besides what the others said it can be worth if rivens for the respective weapon itself are valuable

[red path]

yet i failed to sell maxed arcane energize 5 times already, because it's 2M tax for that

[ebon orbit]

Is the Acceltra prime worth buying? I'd get it myself but I already spent all my relics and didn't get the parts

[real token]

phantasma or cedo

[real token]

or soma

[coarse basin]

all are roughly 10 plat r0

nobody's buying r4 mods

[ebon orbit]

That one and the akarius prime, but I think I still have relics for that one

[tidal plover]

Yeah that leads me to my next quesiton, why TF IS IT 1.4 MILLION CREDITS FOR MAX BLIND RAGE

[coarse basin]

if they're more expensive than the r0 variant, I mean

[tidal plover]

So do I just hold onto them for now or what? Cause 😔 I need some plat income.

[real token]

get into index if ur missing credits

[coarse basin]

sepsis and chilling claws are not going to be your plat income

[gilded patrol]

or progress story and do legacyte harvest cache runs lol

[red path]

tbh I don't even want to answer that caps, but rare mods tax is 8k credits, rank don't matter

[real token]

they needto get chroma for it to work best tho

[hushed marsh]

Is the Tenet Arca Plasmor worth pursuing?

[real token]

holey theres nidus in circuit :0

[tidal plover]

I would just rather get rid of the mods since I'm not using them anymore 🤷

[shy wedge]

If mods are cheap to upgrade, no one is gonna buy maxed out mods to begin with

[tidal plover]

Sorry for all the caps.

[red path]

yes, it's a huge projectile shotgun-like aoe cannon that can headshot

[shy wedge]

Just find someone with Chroma and duo run

Or pubs and let the chroma user do the cache

[red path]

shotgun-like because it's considered shotgun

[real token]

fair enough

[hushed marsh]

Is there a way to guarantee you host a mission? I'd like to actually pilot my railjack for once, lol

[shy wedge]

Never had problems with techrot cache pubs

2/4 players have Chroma

[red path]

👍
it seems you just mixing trade tax and fusion credit cost

[tidal plover]

I was talking about two different things but fair.

OH GOOD GRIEF WHY IS CHROMA PRIME 100 PLAT FOR THE WHOLE SET

[red path]

chroma wasn't in resurgence for a long time

[shy wedge]

I think you're the one who mixed it up xd since his initial comment was complaining about R10 Blind Rage being 1.4m credit to do

[red path]

and he is in quite a demand for credit farm runs

[keen lintel]

Yes

[red path]

because like with many cases, making a prime is sometimes easier than to make a normal frame

[shy wedge]

Ez credits at least, the platinum investment ROI is fast

[eager linden]

Isn’t like the only case where base is easier to craft than prime would be Vauban? (Ignoring farming the BPs)

[red path]

oh, it seems I randomly have a set

[floral osprey]

because im inflating chroma stocks, i have a 99% control on the chroma prime market with my chroma glaze

1 chromillion plat for a chroma set

[red path]

no, it's limbo

[hushed marsh]

chromawesome, chrombro

[keen lintel]

Most star chart assassination frames r easier to craft than their primes

[shy wedge]

Imagine if all frames have Limbo's crafting timers

[hushed marsh]

and limbo's idle animation

[floral osprey]

unironically i wouldnt care all that much if it was like just for all base frames

[shy wedge]

Foundry rushers in shambles

[floral osprey]

and limbos abilities

[red path]

and all weapons - Xoris' crafting timers

[floral osprey]

and limbos cosmetics

and limbos name

[tidal plover]

I just want Platinum but IDK if I have anything valueable to sell. Can I share a small video of all my Prime Parts so I can be told what's worth selling for Ducats or Plat?

[floral osprey]

better yet change warframe to limbo to

[floral osprey]

just cross reference with warframe market

for prime stuff look and see if it sells for more in a set or individually then sell for whichever one nets the most plat

[silk forge]

show

[tidal plover]

Gimme a moment.

[sturdy elk]

is there any way to do mastery rank ups faster or do I have to wait 24 hours everytime

[eager linden]

Have to wait

[sturdy elk]

darn...

[tidal plover]

Yeah I am, hence why I am surprised by some of the cost of these WF Primes even though they are vaulted but I do need to ask. There are probably some mods I'm also sitting on that might net me some Plat but IDK 😔

[shy wedge]

I mean you could always just sell it as prime junk if you're lazy to check WFM prices

You're farming Orokin Vault, just sell dupes of the good ones.

[tidal plover]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, 70 Plat for Nekros Prime's Entire Set is incredibly tempting 😔 but I only have like 61 Platinum atm and should probably trade for more first.

[shy wedge]

Honestly if you want better platinum income, just complete your story quests

[tidal plover]

I was, I stopped for now because I am incredibly bad at finding the vaults and like having help incase I don't find it XD
Yes I am working on the Chains quest as we speak.

[floral osprey]

yea, archamedias once you get an arcane hot shot maxed to sell sells for a ton

[shy wedge]

If you don't like the story like you said, just skip the cutscenes

[tidal plover]

IDK how on console

[silk forge]

go to https ://warframe.market

[lofty garden]

Equinox is a joy to craft. Never let anyone tell you otherwise.

[silk forge]

go to inventory and try to look up on what u currently have with ur prime parts

[eager linden]

Yeah progress the story if you want the more bigger plat farms. Cause you unlock more valuable stuff to sell that being arcanes.

[floral osprey]

crafting her is great.... cuz you dont have to do that dumb rng awful mission

[silk forge]

but honestly all u need is a good weapon and frame for u to progress the story and get void cascade which is the best plat farm rn

[hushed marsh]

I love pressing that craft button at the end of that huge grind, you're right

[silk forge]

for me I used gauss prime and boar prime incarnon when I returned to the game

[lofty garden]

get to press it THREE TIMES!

[silk forge]

took me like 4 hours max to get both

[floral osprey]

get to roll on this every mission in hopes you get 1 of everything, no pity

[frosty flint]

Not even that bad

[lofty garden]

They're very common blueprints

[floral osprey]

trust me, for a mission thats like 5-6 minutes long, and having to do it like 20+ times

[ebon orbit]

What's equinox' helminth ability?

[lofty garden]

Nah, 15 times.

[floral osprey]

i think i had to do it for me liek 27 times

[lofty garden]

No one knows. No one wasted their time creating a second to subsume her.

[floral osprey]

rest and rage

(had to google it)

[daring parrot]

i just subsumed my first one

[floral osprey]

you only get a second equinox when you get equinox prime

[silk forge]

what did u subsume

[lofty garden]

Nah, I farmed a second.

[daring parrot]

equinox

[lofty garden]

It didn't take long.

[floral osprey]

why

[tidal plover]

Working on it. I have a decent Volt Build I think but my weapons are still lacking admittedly aside from my Melee / maybe my Companion.

[floral osprey]

its imop worse than the citrine grind

[silk forge]

show build

[eager linden]

Im curious, for those who did the equinox farm.. are all the tyl regor lines stuck in your head

[red path]

good thing I started playing when equinox already had a prime

[floral osprey]

citrine grind atleast has an end to it, equinox if your unlucky your stuck there forever to grind out a drop from a roughly (ish) 1/8 drop rate

[tidal plover]

Replace Cunning Drift with Power Drift

[lofty garden]

You know what, I may not have... I don't know if I put a reactor in both vanilla frames.

I only have one vanilla, but I have two Equinox Primes...

[floral osprey]

LMAO

still, equinox grind is such an all or nothing

[lofty garden]

That tracks. I would have one on Xbox, and then one on PC.

[floral osprey]

least favourite grind ive done for legit any frame

[lofty garden]

Look, he was very excited.

He's like, the only one who is excited to be a farm.

[floral osprey]

look, i love tyl regor as next as the next person, but theres no reason to play it on sp, he just spams an ability for half the fight that just makes it take longer and can bug out, and then theres NO PITTY

[lofty garden]

Why would you play it on SP to farm him?

[floral osprey]

if there was even a slight bit of a pitty for equinox I wouldnt care

[lofty garden]

That's just silly

[real token]

void arbitration be going crazy

[lofty garden]

14 essence in 21min? Seems low.

[real token]

how can u get more ?

[umbral basin]

Well it ain't meta essence thats for sure. Not nekros

[red path]

pretty normal for survival

[lofty garden]

There's a tier list.

[red path]

best one is interception, then defense

[lofty garden]

browse dot wf/arbys

[bright snow]

Is there some kind of reward distribution with host disconnecting in the last second of Saya’s Visions? Or is this just a visual thing

[lofty garden]

Inteception is S tier, Survival is F tier.

[floral osprey]

because if it had like any amount of pity then sp would likely give more pity points for grinding for equinox. I just use her to spam rest on stuff for conservation but ik there is an equinox nuke build i just havent bothered to play around with her to figure it out

[real token]

oh well theres 1 interception rn

[lofty garden]

Yes, that Interception is S tier.

The next interception is A tier.

[umbral basin]

Mostly you want a drop chance booster, drop booster, pet with retriever mod, and a small interception or defense map.

[floral osprey]

drop chance blessing is multiplicitive with drop chance booster btw

[umbral basin]

Then you want to kill them where they spawn. Kuva ogris is generally preferred for using nightwatch napalm to kill the drones

[lofty garden]

yeah, turn on all the boosters to get enough vitus essence to buy an Arby's roast beef.

[hushed marsh]

is there anything you can do with duplicate Primes? Got a spare Frost Prime, lol

[floral osprey]

also iirc none of the looting frame stuff applies to arbitration drones

[floral osprey]

more builds?

[real token]

really ? feels like it does tho

maybe my imagination

[umbral basin]

They boost the enemies, not the drones

Immune to any warframe ability

[real token]

ah fair