#gameplay-discussion
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What do you mean too much bias?
I ain’t even touched the Open World Deimos Stuff yet
You must use this, you must farm this etc etc
Never heard must on warframe
Like genuinely
Same
Unless youre going for a hyper specific build
There's no must
To be fair, many mods are simply non-negotiable to proper builds
Well there is for some farms
Me when galv scope
Yeah but that's mods, it's not like they are gonna change the whole gameplay
the reason anyone would say must on anything is because its either integral to the thing being used in which case they likely explain why OR its because if your farming out materials or something then there are frames where not using them is just more harmful to your farming
Yeah ur really shooting urself in the foot by not getting a mod like primed continuity
Youd be surprised with some mods
That's where he's stuck, doesn't know where to go to get mods he needs
deimos bounties give a lot of really good mods as well so theyre worth considering, you dont need to get super invested in all the mining & fishing stuff to benefit from doing it
Theres almost always a mod you can substitute if youre missing one, which is great
take the stug, with a 400+ rerolled riven night and night
I get that and understand and accept that, sometimes I just feel like YouTubers can exaggerate details when in reality things aren’t as good as they seem etc ya know?
Usually you can see the numbers on the screen and gauge for yourself from there, as they show their build
Well, from my experience, they never lied, Warframe is built pretty easy, each thing has his role so it's obvious some gonna perform better than others, so saying it's the best one would be true in most cases
At the end of the day, youtubers want views, subs, and money. They upsell because that's what they do. I advocate that tierlists are bunk, because every frame is good if you know how to use them
It's easy and complicated when u dig deeper
U can argue that sum frames might need a lot more investment than others
except limbo
Certainly
So watching guides even with bias can get the big lines to help
There's a video somewhere where iflynn does a whole walkthrough with the free weapons I think
Guides are almost always useful. Aside from the ones that are twelve minutes of red critting a survival mission with a 10 second screenshot of a modlist
Or maybe videos
Lmao
if your concerned about youtubers giving opinionated takes then ask here for people who make relatively comprehnsible videos that give a lot of information while also giving builds to help new players. This game has TONS of interactions and mechanics that even people who have been playing this game for years don't always know. So trying to get a begginer video without a lot of explanation is likely going to come around and bite you in the rear because you lose out on the fundamentals on why your doing what your doing
TheKengineer has a series that starts at new account ends at fragmented one boss fight
My advice? Aside from making sure it's what you want a build for? Ignore The Video Title, and only focus in on their build breakdown, why they made the choices they did, and the actual performance when they test it.
If it looks like a build you would like, who cares if its labeled "THE BEST / BROKEN / OP" even if it's not
I've just been doing my things for some time and it's working well, tmmr I'm farming gauss to feed him to the helminth lmfao
And unlock the feeder
Imagine u farmed gauss prime cuz gauss looked hard to farm
Yeah, I can't count how many videos say that X frame is bad, only to find out that they simply don't understand that frame
modding is probably consistently the highest bar to entry in the game between understanding how to do it as well as getting the mods. ask for help, wiki stuff, and use beginner videos and dont be to upset if you dont immediately get access to stuff that can either require a fair bit of grinding or through vendors like barro
Me when hammer shot
Like I said or if I haven’t said it before, I wanna get proper mods to get Volt Stronger in terms of his Ability Strength / Speed Duration but that means I need good weapons and that loop is a little hard for me to know how to start on you know? Same with Koumei and getting her gear etc
Modding is like learning strats on pokemon, there's much to do but u get the gist of it after sum time
The crafting materials for Koumei etc I mean
O.O 3 years, still no hammer shot...
even the "bad" warframes (except limbo /j) tend to be quite good and the only place where "bad" frames have trouble is in the higher dificulties.... which you are not at
Pew pew then and it should work
i saw someone selling it under market value in trade chat and thats how i got mine :)
I hear you, its just my attention span isn’t the best xD If the video isn’t entertaining, more likely to click off.
And honestly if ur overwhelmed by these things get sum help from players, everyone got sum freebies at a point
Volt is mostly a weapons platform. You need good weapons first, Volt makes them better. Koumei is one I haven't used much, so I can't comment
I’m doing my best to just do my own thing but feeling underpowered doesn’t feel great
Someone offered me a whole bonus of 4 plat for my mag prime, HUGE
Yeah about that, I like Volt for his Speed and Damage Abilities. Not his Shield.
Just learn what each elemental effect does and you are basically golden. Also put multishot on your weapons
I get that, but view it like sitting in a class. if you just get up and leave the room because you dont find it entertaining your not gona end up learning anything from the videos. people can give you summaries of stuff but its likley gona be the same thing with the videos as it will be for the explantaions
Idk, most people fed her to the helminth
And volt's shield boosts your damage too
Any weapon can be at the very least "good" if you can mod it right. That's why you watch build videos. To learn HOW to mod those things.
Even if they use mods you dont have, theyll help you figure out whether to focus on crit or status(or hybrid), what sort of mods play best to that weapons strengths, etc. And then you look into substitutes for the mods you dont have, or where to get what youre missing
This is why we dont have a kuva stug yet
Volt's damage is actually his weakest area. Buffs, shields, stuns, and survivability
hey, were praying for incarnon stug and nothing less ok
Survivability with volt ?
I mean if gorgon can get one then
Wym survivability with volt
Capacitance
Meh idk I had a bad time with him
Can't volts shield block the profit taker nuke
theres also the form of damage reduction in killing things before they kill you
I gave up on him to switch on wukong, found him easier
Melee will always be easier anyways
Also I have gotta be honest, I ain’t looked into YouTube Guides cause I don’t wanna overwhelm myself with info.
Volt's shield is poweful in that it is a one-way wall to projectiles with no health bar
???
YouTube Guides make it way simple
They show you a list of instructions on how to do it by order
I KNOW but I don’t vibe with that ability at all.
If one youtuber focuses on stuff thats too indepth for you just yet, try another one
Everyone learns best from different people
I used it to find places to farm a specific resource
Lol, that ability is 100% of your survivability without capacitance
Volt shields are genuinely so good
I sometimes use it when I play gun
But I didn't use it much since I was playing melee
So that's why I rely on shieldgating
people make spreadsheets for this game and will spend hours to test if something can give them so much as a 1% damage increase. This is an info heavy game and you can either get numbers thrown at you with not a lot of understanding behind them or have that compressed to more easily digestible bits
I’m sorry for being so damn stubborn, I just can!5 help it if I don’t get on with one ability but I know thats a me thing.
what is it specifically that you dont like abt shield bc i find it meshes quite well with his playstyle
He is probably trying for fashion
You can pick up the shield and it just stays in front of you btw, if you didnt know already
Look I’m gonna be real with you, part of why I am struggling is because I’m still adjusting after having played years of Destiny 2 and feeling this weak doesn’t exactly make learning what I can learn any easier but then again, I’m also simultaneously overwhelmed by all the new systems and stuff I have to understand.
You do you man, no skin off my back. If you want to play Volt, well, then you gotta use and learn Volt
Please.. someone tell me there is a better way to get the resource for kullvero that is not repeating the lone story over and over and hoping you get some at the end.. that mode is the absolute worst and then you aren’t even guaranteed any at the end- awful
its not probably, he is, however fasion is effectively locked behind the understanding of atleast some of the fundamentals
I’m more the type of player to go into a horde of enemies and whack them rather than sit behind a shield and play passive
Kullervo is got from The Duviri Experience during Anger, Fear, and Sorrow spirals
I am trying to understand the fundamentals
ya you can use shield for that
Pick it up for run and gun, or drop it and forget it to keep you safe. Just shock it with your 1 for that tasty electric bonus
best mission to farm credits?
You can pick up the shield and it just stays in front of your character, you can still have that same playstyle
Hell, do both!!! You can have multiple shields
The Index
at this rate for be its solstice square with a credit booster on sp
Does it need to be the Lone Story mode?
Profit taker and techrot safes
lone story is worse than duviri experience
No, The Duviri Experience mode
Do Experience, Lone Story doesnt guarantee a Kullervo fight
theres basically no reason to ever do lone story unless the only thing youre after is pathos clamps
^
I understand how you feel. But the reason you struggle is because you keep running away from the guides that were given to you. If you take a look into the yt guides or official wiki, you will understand more about this game rather than get stuck on every step
Even then, isleweaver is a better clamps farm
Its only good if you dont have isleweaver, and are playing with randoms
When you are Volt, that Shield can make you active
Like most of today I’ve just been focusing on trying to get Koumei
ya experience is generally just a rly good farm for multiple things, you get arcanes & steel essence from undercroft portals & either kullervo or enigmas or both depending on rotation
Oh it’s an entire different mode you are speaking of 🙈 just started playing duviri content so still learning what it all is
"Hahahaha I agree" I said with a smile
as long as you are trying to get koumei in public, it should go pretty quick
it's best imo to do experience runs for all the various things you get instead of treating it as purely a kullervo farm bc if thats all youre doing then obv itll feel like a waste of time
So you could get his pieces not just the stuff to buy them?
I know but it feels clunky, cause ya gotta drop the shield, pick it up and then by the time ya do that the enemies are dead
thats fine, but the biggest thing you need to understand is that warframe is a marathon. not a sprint. You will hear everyone here tell you that on repeat because it is the case. To try to translate it to D2 terms as best i can, your not gona be doing day 1 raids at the start and your gona have to do the earlier missions and raids before you can even start looking at doing on release raids to get the new stuff.
The best thing i can reccomend to do is to sit down, bite the bullet of not wanting to watch videos, and watch a few begineer guides from like the kengineer or smthn to get a better grasp on why your doing what your doing and to have some of the mechanics and systems explained
Played With IMM in SP and it's soooo fast hahahaha
I have looked stuff up on the Wiki but thats just caused further confusion cause I don’t know what to look into exactly.
don’t need SP, it is an easy mode in regular with a full squad.
:) chroma was hungry for oni

I really should be heading off anyway.
"Oh I knoe, I'm just saying" I laughed, "Imm be eating the Oni like beef jerky"
Plat.
Gimme sum.
I am
I'll give u 2 legendary ammo drum mods, how's that
Wiki is best for finding where to farm stuff, or further details on stuff like abilities and their tips+tricks.... but it can be hard to understand if you don't have a grasp on the basics.
Its much easier to listen to someone break stuff down verbally usually, hence why we all keep recommending youtube
Was that supposed to be a joke?
those are hot comodaties
Consider the following:
Today I worked on learning Gauss. I started with three videos giving breakdowns, checked which mods I had and didn't have. Constructed a build. Tested the build at levels 15, 30, 60, and 130, and then read Gauss' entry on the wiki once I knew what everything more or less did.
No, its worth probably 300k plats, I'll sell it to you for a merely 500k plats
The more nuanced subjects like what mods are good, what mods are worthy of farming but I realise that likely links back into needing to look into YT Guides and I am trying not to run a Sprint if I can @trim bobcat
"Oh and Imm, does Koumei 4 focused on what's in front of her or irs Omnidirectional" I asked as looking at Imm, waiting for an answer
Meanwhile, Imm asking me Koumei questions
no idea :)
I getcha, sorry for being stubborn but I really do need to head off xD
"just remember, all of those Rush in your body is understandable... It's just we need to slow down" I said and look
I have 2k hours and have only looked at guides for super specific stuff. Most of my builds are trial and error and some through getting help in the server. Theres basically a firing range you can test all your gear and builds at and tweak your builds in that mode (the simulacrum)
my komei has had nothing but a growing power on her untill today
Ok, if you are looking for mods, you need a framework to begin. If you have a frame to target, find how to get the components, then find how to craft these items, and finally, find the mods that are suited for that frame
Its just very important to read what each stat does in the modding screen, hover your cursor over the elements and all that
"aigjt I'm asking you" turning towards Felfeyn, "does Koumei 4 focused in one focal point or it's Omnidirectional"
"Bro BUILD HERRRR" I said, while laughing
i am, thats what im doing right now, im in eso nuking stuff with a xoris
Get a goal break it into small goals
^
Just like real life tasks lmao
That's what I am doing rn" I said, while tapping the side of my temple
That's how u complete things
I’m also not very good at not knowing “why” a build isn’t working when in theory it should so yeah and I’m likely gonna be focusing on Koumei so I can actually get proper mods for Volt Prime that suits my playstyle but IDK.
holy shit ur still going
use a video, if you dont think a build is working paste it in here and go "does this build look right?"
"Yes I am" I said, smiled slyly. "I need a to know if Koumeis 4 is Omnidirectional or focused what's in front of her" I said in a blank, confused face... Finding questions
it's frontal
Doing Iso Vaults solo bc people keep killing the Mechs too fast and not marking them so I miss out on Matrix drops 
Its Line of sight! Sorry for the delay jdbdbdbx
UwU he said
"Oh frontal? A bummer" I said, sighing in a bit of disappointment
Same thing I tell my daughter. Focus. Pick 1 frame, 1 primary, 1 secondary, and 1 melee. Then, pick 1 of those and only focus on it until you're comfortable understanding it, then the next
"it's ok, no fret" I smile
"Koumei expends 100 Energy to bind enemies inside the player camera, Line of Sight and a 170 degrees cone spanning 15 / 20 / 25 / 30 meters."
I don’t understand.
She has such a good father" I said, wiping a fake tear as I clapped
Teaching the new gen lmao
R u roleplaying chat gpt
Right now, you're focusing on two frames and 0 weapons. Koumei and Volt are built very differently. Focus on one
Wukong is the way
But I just got titania prime tho hehe
Idk why there's like 20 plat of difference on WM of buyers and sellers
I should really get titania prime she looks pretty fun and would be super useful
but also
gauss skin
gauss skin > titania prime
In a cone shape huh" I said, looking at the message intently
Por que no los dos?
"No, just challenging myself" I smiled
In a cone shape huh" I said, looking at the message intently
first I save for gus, then titania comes after
"sthu" I said cutely while dancing on my tipitoes
Anyway like I said, I really gotta go but I’m gonna be focusing on Koumei and finishing her grind tomorrow and then think on mods even though I’m second guessing myself due to likely not having access to any of her specific mods and what have you.
- Volt is a Prime Frame that I’m gonna finish crafting tomorrow
lemme think about it
no
Fair
10 hours cascade, a rot only
11 days til gus. I can get a couple hundred plat by then.
bundles are usually 220 plat right?
When ur doing cascade and there's one guy that puts 5 radiant relic in a row istg it's a different emotion
Yes
Weird combination" I smirk as I am thinking something stupid, "Zephyr's subsume replaced on Koumei's 2 for another CC"
I haven't run cascade in months... I should probably run it again, but still farming arcanes
ah, signa and syandana and skin would probably be closer to 300-smth plat, looking at khymia
Idk, cascade works best for farming a tad bit of everything
mmm
no
Fair
idk if I can even get a buyer for my riven rn
Idk too
Two unrevealed rivens a day for 11 days is what, 770 plat at the going rate?
How much is one ?
I see them go for 35
no
That's like half the mag I sold
Market and chat are two entirely different worlds I've noticed
anyways I have 5 clip delegations, by the time we get the gus skin hopefully it'll be worth like 30-smth
Hope you understand @spice junco
No worries, I'll be around
Call me Mark Grayson because I am
Did a patch make excavations fissures rarer or am i trippin? I swear i never see an excav fissure whenever i'm online anymore
Anyone else noticing the hames ui and hud are glitching a tiny bit when looking around and using mouse on huds and screen freezing for a split second during the inferno tower?
Also do Resource Drones only get whats listed on the nodes or can it get everything from that one planet?
They collect 1 of the listed resources on the node per run
Only one???
at a time, yes
So like, nano spores, you'll get say 600 or something, but only the one resource
Oh bugger
Cause getting the rest of the stuff for Koumei I thought I could solve with a Resource Drone
I think most of Koumei's stuff comes from Plains of Eidolon
you can
if its a planet resource. not if its from the open worlds
Ah. Yeah nah, its open world stuff 😭
which resources are you missing?
Love doing 26mil damage in one swing in Excal and two tapping my nemesis.
The grind is gone, my bröthers
TTYL. I need to go.
With the new changes to survival, will conjunction survival also get affected?
8 cells, neat
the grind isn't done tho
the grind is never done
who said 26 mil was enough
You're right. I need to one tap my nemesis. I must
For only then may I stand a chance against
Damn, I missed someone's trade offer
BOPP BIPP
I am trying to do the KIM messages correctly so none of them hate me, and
what is the thermostat counter...
talkin to them like you actually care helps quite a bit
i do, that's why I am making sure I don't say anything that could upset them
-# just being nice works :P
There is an extractor prime? Wtf?
Aren't those from regal aya?
Back in the day, they were part of Prime Vault.
Distilling Extractor Prime and Titan Extractor Prime are available via regal aya with certain prime resurgence offerings.
Usually the oldest frames, like Rhino, Mag, Frost, Nyx, Ember. They come with a reusable blueprint to make more.
I tried doing this a few times but it feels like the radial attack messes it up
I suppose it is that time for me to buy extractors
I am getting low on orokin cells and neuro sensors after spending it all on primes and weapons
I can only reach up to 3
Buy a Prime Accessories some time.
I bought Nezha Prime Access Accessories, that's how I got my fourth slot.
Yeah, $50 or thereabouts. Comes with two 90 day boosters.
being "f2p" doesn't really mean much.
It makes sense for accessories that have something unique. Armor isn't enough for me to buy, and the boosters have very little appeal.
Zephyr had the Commodore Operator Suit. That's pretty cool.
its not really worth it to buy slots for extractors unless you are like, doing hema research for a solo clan, just download the companion app and rotate them every once in a while when youre at work/school
Well. Extractors require you to keep an eye on it all day
my personal tip for not running out of orokin cells is to do a kuva lich once in a while
Or you can go to gabii on ceres
Or farm in Pallas through void fissures
Imo, I think I can still gather resources without relying on extractors
Extractors are just for passive farming, isn't it?
yeah
i used extractors pretty heavily for clan research but i havent really needed them since
I forgot they exist ngl
Worth?
Is the cold status seperate from the bonus electric
yes
Neat
the forced cold is just a proc w/ no damage
Could it still affect stuff like arcane ice storm
Go higher enemies, no mods in your Burston and do ammo drum
That's how I did mine
oh, ice storm is "on enemy frozen" not "on cold proc"
They freeze when they hit 10 cold procs i thought
"Yes they do" I smile
so, in my testing, it's hard to stack enough procs with just torxica
but i dont see any reason it shouldnt work
Its prolly possible just would need some work
But the fact that its an option in the first place is making me consider something
Frost?
Considering that yea
pretty sure its a UI bug, and its still the value of 23
For?
So we just tried the mode you suggested but it was almost identical to the lone story and we didn’t get any of the things you mentioned
Headshots, Burston's evo
After you finish Duviri Experience, some of the undercroft portals reopen
bc youre supposed to explore the map....
So you have to finish the orowyrm, then go back and look
did you go to kullervos hold during fear, anger, sorrow?
not even, you can run around doing things in between main objectives
Yes it was during fear
Are we talking about the same thing?
did you fight him
you need six decrees iirc, might as well just rush down the wyrm
We did run around collecting plants and stuff but didn’t get anything else
oh lol, if you want Kullervo bits you have to fight the wyrm
I.... Dint know" I shrug... Visibly confused
How do we get to the kulvero fight?
Talk to his jailer about it
Yes we fought the dragon thing
theres an outlying island on the map called "kullervo's hold"
I think the hacking has gotten into you, CC
it has a big colosseum on it
The suspiciously Ballas-like individual standing over the big hole
enigmas are from Archarbor (and the owl puzzles, but the Archarbor puzzle gives 5)
So we have to fight him for a chance to get his pieces and also do all of the rest of the mission?
theres a guy sitting on top and hes marked by a giant golden glowing u shape and if you talk to him itll start the kullervo fight
he doesn't drop pieces, he drops currency to buy his pieces with
not chance of pieces, guaranteed 6 to 9 bane
but yes you have to fight the wyrm
Man… its such a crazy long process..
it's pretty fast if you're ranked up
difference between lone story and duviri experience is just that side objectives like the kullervo's hold warden & the undercroft portals don't appear on the map in lone story
don't even mean weapons builds, just have one person do nothing but the mission while the others do side content
you snowball really fast
at like 10, 20+ decrees (each of which can be done in seconds) you kind of just cheese the whole gamemode wyrm included
yyyyup
also this map has markers for all the useful stuff you can find in duviri experience https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Duviri/Map
oh yeah and one squadmember should definitely focus on fishing
the main thing to look out for is the undercroft portals
😅😅 uhhhh yeah guess we must still be really new or not quite getting it because we got like 6-8 decrees the entire mission last time
Duviri's a learning experience
It just prompts us when it’s time to go there though ?
thats different
The maw thing? Why?
Have you spent your intrinsics in the cave?
the materials from fishing are used in a bunch of Duviri gear
the first time you finish the fishing section you get a decree, too
Yes everything is maxed out
and you can also get a fish for your aquarium
there are undercroft portals that appear as part of the central objectives leading up to the orowyrm and also undercroft portals that appear in fixed locations on the map that you can find by flying around on your kaithe
theres three of them that spawn per duviri instance and their locations are marked on the map i posted above
basically, if there's an extra portal with Thrax's face on it, jump through and do the mission for arcanes
Will we all go when one goes?
I play with family and want to make sure we all get the resources
Which is why we tend to do the missions all together instead of splitting up
though honestly it's only really worth it on SP Experience because on normal the arcanes are just what you get from low rank Eidolon hunts
We don’t really do those hunts yet either 🙈
tbf if you don't have the gear for eidolons undercroft is a decent source
lmao it's deprecated content at this point
it's what i do on my alt account
It used to be Warframe's endgame
Now it's something you do for cosmetics and focus school development
Im sure we can do it we just haven’t yet.. well one of us is a new player but
Yeah, it's not hard
And also haven’t worked on operator really so maybe not
Basically anything from the modern arsenal can shred--ah well then yeah, bit of a difficulty curve
It's a knowledge thing
hey guys, i was running the deep archimedea and we just lost during mirror defense when the point had 75% health left. What could have caused us to fail? I was still up and never got knocked down, and neither teammate was dead.
Can’t stand operator or drifter
The knowlede of "use madurai to one-tap the shields"
did an electrical eximus get close?
just watched my recording, there was zero enemies near it when we lost.
Thank you guys I’ll try the things you suggested, appreciate the help
and no damage to the point was done at all at the time.
that happens sometimes and i dont know what causes it but you can try using ancient protector spectres
I don't know what the modifiers on archimedea are this week but there are a few things that can bust down its HP instantly
And I mean instantly
wouldn't i have at least seen the health go down for like a frame before it fails us?
supposedly yes, but remember: Bugframe
it was up fine, but then mission failed. point seemed fine. only thing i can think of is the second point that was supposed to be invincible wasnt for whatever reason.
i remember checking my game logs once after failing mirror defence eda twice in a row, the first time it was downed by a rupturing fragment iirc and the second time it just said "auricle was destroyed by 56k damage" without any indication of where it came from
oops didn't mean to ping
huh where can i check those?
rip
god said no eda
theres a way to check in one of the logs i think EE.log or smth?
yea i found it, just gotta search through it no wlol
just search for auricle hahahaha
ಠ_ಠ
Told ya
calllllllled it
literally the last 3 frames before we failed i was staring at the point and there was no enemy on it.
They can do that thing from half a mile away
0 days since blitz eximus blitzed someones defense objective
must be a day ending in "day"
where enemy? Bottom left one?
awww it doesnt work here.
yes
so it couldve been either
that is 100% a blitz i know by ptsd
I think it's actually top left, under the hand
because there's a purple aura around it
bottom left is more orange
blitzes have the orange "spiky" look
Isn't that arson?
arson just glows no?
arson and blitz are both orange, arson does heat wave & blitz does the frontal blast
yerp i think it was that one lol
yeaaah
hello guys, i joined this server because im having difficulties on doing the teacher quest the relic thingy, the moment i take the mod like what the quest asked me to nothing happens and it's just a stalemate.. please help me i repeated it like 3 times already but it's the same result😓
when you say take the mod what do you mean?
oh YEAH
Have you watched a playthrough of the quest?
yes, i think enemies are supposed to jump on a ship/plane but mine doesn't
it's just stuck
I played that quest when it first came out and I don't recall enemies evacuating ever
Are you the one who's supposed to evac?
no, it's on the part where the device like exploded or something
that's the farthest it goes, the story didn't continue after that
so, you went for the mod console and don't get jumped? Is that it?
yeah, the story didn't progress after that
could be a mobile glitch
sounds like
Walkthrough is in the wiki. Where does it stop working?
im gonna try the quest again, I'll ss it if it happened again
wow, now it worked
i swear guys, it didn't work before
still, thank you for offering me help
i really appreciate it
complaining always works 
lol, this is the 3rd time this game made me frustrated
What happened?
BugFrame
Ah
is melee duplicate worth to farm ?
desync mobile
Oh yeah I forgot
"I forgot to continue talking like this", I said, pointing to my mouth, "I challenged myself to talk like this"
"eh I look stupid but oh well" I said, shrugging despite the fact it does look weird
duunt woory we just trying to do our best
i cant exit the hub, i click esc but the menu didnt show up
go out the door
just have to turn it off and on again
try to go to the door or maybe vist cathedral / sancti atom
if non works then just leave game
leave game is better overall
better choice* it refresh your status
like even if you fix the problem, there still cases where the game still thinks your offline
I can be the only Husky here
YO WHICH ONE DO I CHOSE DRIFTER OR OPERATOR
navy cyte, yay or nay
That is a really cool color scheme
:D
its a hyena
What should I be grinding if I have a mod drop chance booster?
mods ig
Is there any incentive to play saya's visions in steel path?
more pearls and chance at SE since acolytes can spawn, but depending on how long it takes you to clear the stupid health sponge oni it might be faster to play it on star chart
when would be the next operation plague star?
God damn it. I was still away from the game when the last one was active. Sh
Like I mean what nodes or mods do you typically farm at.
I'm just a returnee after 8 years.
i tipically dont farm them, i just do arbitration so i can resell the galvanized
Is there a channel or thread where I could add suggestions?
Thank you! ❤️
god kill me i cant find the elemental damage + status chance buffs
im tryna find a toxic and cold one that buffs status chance at hte same time and its just not
it's rare reward from alchemy rotation C, i.e. every 4th round
but there is a bundle in market for 100p that has all tennokai mods
for future reference those are called 60/60 mods
do you have a moa? you can cheese lua spy with one and that makes the farm for rime rounds alot better
Yeah, it's a pretty rare drop from Alchemy in Sanctum. You're likely to get the other Tennokai mods in the process. It's also really popular because it removes the RNG from Tennokai completely so that factors into the pricing
Although I forgot which rotation Tennokai mods drop... I should check
6% Rotation C. Rotations is AABC so 4 Crucibles for a chance of a Tennokai mod
moa? whats that
modular companion from fortuna
theres a mod that has them hack consoles for you and if you use the masters summon subsume with it, you can teleport your moa past the wall in front of you and it goes an hacks the console
ah, dont got
oh thats neat
where does one find a 6060 mod
depends on the mod
tocic & cold
rifle mods?
melee, preferably
trying to make a status based mod thing for kullervo
also: where the hell is condition overload
actually all of the toxin ones come from corrupted Vor in the void
wiki says cambion drift enemies
cambion drift...
mainly
so just do some iso vault bounties or something
or just regular bounties ig
kill me.
sometimes grinding does that
I would just play bounties, also get good mods and aya
cold 60/60 mods are from spy missions iirc
Tbh I bought most of my 60/60 mods from Baro
I only bought electticity mods that you can't farm
thank god im a long term player with huge hiatuses between so i just randomly have 60/60 mods in my inventory </3
it's like finding change in your pocket
Or that 50$ bill you stashed away in a book months prior that you forgot about

Like wdym I randomly have Bite in my Inventory? Hahahahaha
Rip
how did pond hotspots in orb vallis look like?
Stalkers guaranteed spawn on the Gifts of Lotus?
no
Aw
2 Managed to spawn
on the elite ver yes bc its sp
What do tiers mean for defense missions?
lith meso neo axi
and u have AABC
or w/e idk if changed lol
every 3 waves A>A>B>C
I'd describe the look as... iridescent
melee cold & heat 60/60s are from tier 1 spy, i.e. earth, venus, mars, mercury
i spammed the mars one out of preference but any of the spy nodes on those planets would work
So, if I need a relic that is only obtainable from A and B I need to restart after 9 waves, right?
after you hit rotation c it cycles back, so aabc->aabc->etc
What rotation? I don't think I have Melee Cold so I'm gonna get on that
c
hellloooo
Hi" I said as I wave my hands in greeting
oooo helll
what is up with everyone
Just good" I said as I look at the foundry, "just in my orbiter, playing with my Kubrow while waiting for Koumei"
I have returned
trying to decide on frames to build/farm missing parts for
i need to q some weaps/frames up - i maaaaybe got enough stuff to just get shy of mr15
Hello hello" I said as I smile
I recall it was called Vicious Frost
That's a cool name for a Mod
But I spent 50 runs on spy missions in search for that mod
After that, I gave up and brought one from market
Well I did the same thing for Bullet Dance
And I have it now lol
It definitely handles the way I would like it to
Crazy that I managed to get Frostbite on the first try 
High Noon is still a fun stance, but my build wants Bullet Dance on it
Kinda really happy about it
Each shot from my Gunblade procs Discipline's Merit so it's like... 1 shot, 1 heavy attack over and over again LMAO
Once I get Koumei…what do I do next
"build her, get used to her, and farm the planets" I said, chuckling
Throw her in Helminth after u reach max rank with her
Hey Guys, are there any new codes available or ?
Okay so question, what the hell do I do if I have a Prime Frame available but only limited Warframe Slots? Do I just leave it in the foundry?
yeah
if you dont have the means to get slots just leave the dude in the foundry and itll be fine
sacrilege
Wait for prime kek
"He needs her for now" I said
I already have it crafted but thanks
"you can, it won't go or rot away till you get an another slot" I explained
Please talk normally or I’m gonna block you.
Damn...
Aight...
I'll just not gonna talk
Didn't know someone would get annoyed talking like that
Aight fine I'll break my one week challenge
Wrong chat nvm
I lost my motivation for this, I'll just gonna leave
Why is it everytime I'm here the chats are always dead
Damn... Always in the wrong timing
oh hey is that still you crowd control king?
Yup still me, can't talk in a novel style bc someone was getting annoyed... I was starting to have fun with it
My acc got hacked and just spammed a lot of Adult contents to anyone so I deleted that acc
I like you as a person but I cannot control what actions you do or do not take. I appreciate all you’ve done for me but that type of novel talk is just something I ain’t comfortable with at times.
Bro clicked the "hot babes near your location" 
Aight
I mean this is a discord server. If talking like in a novel is allowed, then other people can't really complain about it. The only thing they can do is just block someone xd.
Or ignore that works as well.
Never said I was complaining, just stating my discomfort but 🤷 I’m not here to argue. I just want to enjoy Warframe.
Yeah.... No....
Believe me or not... It just scammed in an instant
Idk how, all I remember is someone dms me to ask me for a build... Guess accepting their friend request got me hacked... Idk
Nah it's ok, I'd rather have yall comfort than my own so it's ok and fine
Besides I still want to help... I cannot really do that if I am being ignored or blocked
Sorry I didn’t mean to use blocking you as a threat. I just didn’t know how else to express my discomfort.
It's OK bro, don't worry alright?
What's wrong with novel talk?
At least it can't be worse than Ordis's terrible jokes

Oh it's just discomfort, so I understand their discomfort
Don't yall worry about it, I'll adjust
Hahaha nah I don't want the risk to be blocked by someone when I want to help them
Nah, he is a baby tenno. He hasn't been in Warframe for that long
Trust me, Warframe is a place for people who are insane
does it need to be specifically deepmines?
they tend to spawn in Temple Fabrication
ahh, not sure then D: good luck!
what koumei?
You had trouble with the first steps into Warframe
But then again, I give you props for not quitting ahead
are there vc's in this server im not seeing?
is there some good warframe content creator?
no vcs
ah ok
I think they just removed it
Thank you. 
I love Futurama anyway so I can’t take offence to this xD
Koumei is getting created in my foundry, tmr I can play her
And... Yeah
I always join in the wrong timings
Is the tipsycontent checklist good site for daily/weekly resets?
Or is it missing anything important
I feel like I need to grow stronger but IDK what accessible things I have access to that can help there because I can’t get 60/60 Mods yet etc
The 60/60 mods aren't that important in your portion of the game yet due to how weak the enemies are even when using normal mods
A simple Serration, aptitude and elemental mods is enough for it
I do understand you wsnt to be as ready as possible towards SP or at least be ready but with your builds right now, it's more than ok
I feel weak for where I’m at in the game…
60/60 mods are good for giving good elemental % for the low drain
How "weak"?
Like…very underpowered?
I’m a literal War Machine that should be one-shotting enemies with Melee or whatever and that ain’t happening.
Bo Incarnon Genesis can I farm this if I only just unlocked SP?
Does anyone know if there's a work around for Necrophagic Vigor's bug where it just doesn't work if you're the host?
Might be a little hard but should be doable if you run into good loadouts in Duviri
can I be carried?
might have to bust out the nataruk since it's my highest dps weapon, any mod tips for a build with it?
you can, there's a decent amount of players still farmin SP circuit (at least in my opinion)
Ohhhh.... But you can easily kill them despite not one shotting them tho... Right?
Kind of?
I got most 60/60 mods and a few galvanized mods(idk if they got bow versions of them)
Bows count as Rifles in the modding system lol
Then you are good, I know you want them be the war machine who kills everyone in your way... But we are Ninjas hahahahaahaha
Jokes aside tho, you are in a comfortable place to be honest. It's just your expectations are high on the comfy zone you have
I see everyone else killin’ shite in one shot and want in on it
Thats end game stuff you need all the buffs
That's them with advanced modding and buffs from their companions, warframes, etc.
That level is a bit hard for you to get bc of how much you lack them mods, that's why I said, if you kill them fast enough and easy enough while not one shotting them? You're good
As long as you kill them fast enough or quick, then you are good
Yeah its not feeling quick enough for me but thats just me.
I’m on like Uranus so IDK where I’m at in the game but I feel underpowered
Yeah if you arent at SP yet which is still a long way off u wont be scaling to the OP levels yet
Probably so, it's ok
Damn the memories of me spamming Xoris while on my Volt as that's the best way for me to kill them enemies hahahahah
I hate the Xoris
We know
I mean the moment I got my hands on Nataruk, Xoris was forgotten
Back in the day I am just using what's strong to kill them enemies in an instant
I had no choice if I want to one shot them then I use any possible weapons
That's why Xoris has a special place in my heart no matter the slanders
I don't think the people I'm playing with know how survival works because they just keep activating the emergency life support despite being max
...no matter the shaders.
once you get 2 heavy attack wind up speed mods, Xoris becomes more fun
Bhahahaah
That's why I got Xoris for Volt before
I get those how?
In the upcoming patch, will conjunction survival also get buffed like survival? Meaning thrax spawn rate increases?
Just need to wait until the next thermia fracture so I can get that amalgam mod that give heavy attacks speed
There was a time when I used to hate its spam sound whenever people threw it.
It's killing blow and.... That one mod for heavy efficiency right?
Hope DE will bring Perita-like missions to star chart as well
Likely yes, but we gotta see
killing blow, melee elementalist or amalgam organ shatter
Amalgam Organ Harvester
I use amalgam and elementalist myself on my xoris
And I also need to get a stance mod too for the xoris, I haven't been lucky with that
Gleaming Talon?
Astral twilight, gleaming talon, Haven't gotten either
Aight I gtg, need to wash dishes
Alright
Cya
Melee Elementalist, Killing Blow, Amalgam Organ Shatter
Tata
you can use all 3 but I only use two
Atat
3 is overkill imo
Killing Blow is very replaceable
I wonder what's the best way to get either astral twilight or gleaming talon
getting lucky or buying
I know but it's good for new players
it's why I only use two out of three because of Primed Pressure Point
If u have a maxed syndicate like cavia or Hex after spamming a lot of EDA/ETA, you can spend all standing to buy an arcane and sell it
I just unlocked cavia yesterday, so that'll take a bit
AST, what do you thinkof magnus p and akmagnus p?
Which one has augment and which one has headshot ammo efficiency?
I think it was the magnus prime
Then it's great.
deadly maneuvers
It's also in my wishlist
The best things I can sell for now are uh, syndicate mods I guess
the dispo is high probably only because of how expensive it is
If it hasn't been unvaulted for a long time, I'm gonna have to wait for both that & boar prime now
BTW some of Follie's creations are considered as ability dmg
Which means archon shards & archon mods can pair well.
How interesting
did they say if the creations have a duration?
I just want to grow stronger before Steel Path because I feel weak.
what are some easy frames to farm?
frames available from clan dojo research
the 3 i wanted are a grind
rhino, koumei
got those done
and rhino as well
so, start farming the others
like
If you didn't start with Excal, Lech Kril in Mars is easy to farm his parts in
Frames - clan dojo research (you need to be member of clan), Circuit, Quests, bounties and Bosses.
kullervo is a grind i am trying to do slwly, cyte and styanax is locked currently, these 3 were the ones i wanted, so i wanted to get the easier ones out of the way
oh yea i do need excal and mag since i chose volt
Mag comes a little later. But the boss fight for her is one of the easiest lol
HOW DO I FINISH THIS BOUNTY WHERE ARE THE SARCOPHAGUSES
You search for them throughout the map
WHAT I THOUGHT I WAS JUST SUPPOSED TO KILL THE THING
Oh damn hahahah
there's no yellow thingy
sarcophagus
could use some gel nails, that one
FOR GOD'S SAKE REALLY?
whats with capslock?
yes. use your mini map or hud. they are white boxes, same as other crates
there is nothing popping up in the map
You need to have Animal Instinct or Loot Detector or Thief's Wit.
to see loot on the mini map
oh god so it's actually throughout the entire mission area and not just the boss arena ?
generally every loadout needs one of these 3 mods. They all stack if you need further range.
the sarcophagus are ONLY in the desert area bit, and nomrally under what looks like a cliff
or at the top of a cliff like thingy#
Sacrophages are in fixed locations, btw
So if you found some in a room, make a mental note bc they will always be in the same spots
sarcophagi
does this actually work or is it just a bug?
They improve your chance but I think it's not guaranteed
... I just went all redundant in that sentence and idk how to rephrase it rn 
i saw some comments over at youtube and reddit saying the resistances were just a visual bug and not real
Pov trying to open a chip bag
can't confirm or deny, never used one
this is a very regal picture of that vulp 🙂
what primes are currently vaulted?
everything else is vaulted
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Warframes#Prime_
Valkyr Prime and Nyx Prime are permanently unvaulted.
a lot of them
hmm
You forgot the other two
The official wiki has all the primes if you want to be more specific. https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Prime_Vault#Vaulted_Items
The Prime Vault, an archive outside of Tenno reach, houses items that have been retired from the game's Drop Tables. "An item enters the Prime Vault" means that players are no longer able to acquire Void Relics that can potentially reward those items. Any relics, blueprints, and components that the player already owns will not be removed from th...
Valkyr and Nyx are evergreen. The other seven rotate as new primes come in. The oldest is retired, so Protea and her weapons are going in the vault in the very near future.
nah, it comes from corrupted ancients. Spend time in the Void and you'll get one.
I have 12 of them.
Can also just buy the flawed version which gives 23% attack speed per kill from iron wake
Only costs credits
absolutely contradict previous statement
razorwing blitz
Also how do you get exilus slot on exalted blade
damn the lucks crazy
i neither have helminth or gauss or koumei
Complete whispers in the wall quest to get the slot
you unlock exilus and acane slots on melee after whishpers in the walls quest
Complete Whispers in the Walls.
Can i only have 2 grandest halls as max?
why does google say that you can only have one of each?
why is blind rage so hard to get 😭, got so many other mods but blind rage
grandest hall?
check official wiki
because you're unlucky
and it's 1/24
it's pretty cheap, if you have 20 spare nightwave credits you can buy clip delegation, sell it to someone, and buy blind rage
Why is no incarnon latron so fun, been using it for a little bit of time now and it's doing a decent amount
It's pretty good for manifold bond, as it does apply all of your companion weapon's status effects
maybe mine bugged out because i have 2 grandest halls 😭
i built it at the same time as an old youtube video described it as well
wait omg
when you find a bug, have look at warframe bug forum
im a moron nvm, it was a grand hall and they look the same except one has a balcony thing. Im sorry for wasting your time guys 😭
happens to all of us at some point
Fr velma glasses moment
Exactly so, used it on my oxylus whenever I do the atlas farming strat
Is boar prime worth the 80 plat?
I'd say no
ah
I'd wait until relics with boar prime parts get unvaulted
i hope that's before another plague star
I never touched railjack how hard is the sevagoth farm nowadays? I really want gloom and im tempted to just buy him with plat
Yes if you’re buying from me
it's not difficult but you need some time to get your rj ready for it, or find a squad that doing void storms
you need to go to pluto or veil storms
does this boost affect relic rare drops too?
if you have a squishy railjack, hide RJ in hollow asteroid so its not noticed by enemies, and do mission with Amesha archwing. #1 skill will keep you alive, #3 skill will slow enemy craft so you can shoot it.
Any dragon key can open any Orokin vault, and drops don't depend on rotations or anything, right?
"No" to the first part.
This is why it's easier to just equip all four keys at once so you don't need to worry about it being the wrong key.
And "correct" to the second part.
Just pure RNG on what you get in the vaults.
If I lose after opening the vault, will I just lose my key?
The "minimum to maximum standing" on the right on the wiki, is that the daily standing cap or what is that?
Hmm... honestly not sure.
Never failed a vault run mission as they are pretty low level.
I'd lean to "yes" though.
If I equip 4 of them at once, I'll be doomed.
That won't matter.
It only uses what key is used.
So, at worst, you'd lose the key that you opened the vault with.
The maximum is how much standing you need to make it to the next rank, it is not the daily standing cap you can have
Daily standing cap is separate and based on your mastery rank iirc
So, I receive a curse after opening the vault, and not while carrying the key?
I literally have EVERYTHING I need to max out the standing and get Angel rank, everything. Except the standing to actually do it, and my daily standing cap is so abysmal it took like 4 days to get from 3 to 4, and it's probably gonna take like a week more to get 5
I'm doomed to lose one of them if I equip 4 at once I guess.
Higher mastery ranks give you more daily standing cap (along with other bonuses)
this chat situation needs to be addressed
what's the best mining tool atm? the sunpoint plasma drill?
it depends on the ore you are searching for tbh
ah. damn
Whats the problem?
when multiple people are texting and they all just clunk together in single chat when receiving it
yeah but getting mastery also takes years, I'm somewhat close to mr 12 and I have like 8 weapons cooking in the foundry, and I can make more later today to queue as well. After all that is done and I've leveled up all like 10 or 11 weapons from there I MIGHT be mr 13
yea some common ores are easier to get with certain tools and likewise ofr the rares
Gotcha, ty
Both.
So having all keys on does have a major negative (as you'd be hit by the effects of each individual key), then you will get hit again by the effect of picking up the item in the vault.
It really doesnt tbh, stand in a populated relay and wait a bit for someone to bestow an affinity booster blessing and go do sanctuary onslaughts, weapons are easy to get blueprints for via the market, warframes arent hard to get, prime weapons and warframes are pretty easy to get if you do some fissures and it just kinda goes up from there. Level up companions, archwings etc too, plus your operator amps
yeah I don't get why the messages from one person appears in another chat if you have that open. Just have it appear only in whatever chat it's supposed to and keep the ding and blinking man
I went from mr 8 to mr 19 in like 3 months and now im at 22
Can I get a count on how many Harrow Chassis BPs everyone has?
Rolling though is not affected by hobble, and same goes for void-sling in Operator/Drifter mode.
my point exactly, 8 to 19 in THREE MONTHS
I sell them periodically but ive had them in the hundreds
Don't have many anymore, dumped the ones I had on Roathe for the honoria.
I wanna go from almost 12 to 14 and that's gonna take like, idk too long imo
It really isnt that long, getting resources and building weapons then warframes, it is a bit time gated but you could do it in a month or less
I just take breaks from warframe and come back to it every few weeks or so
Burning through everything in a short time is only going to lead to burnout.
Yeah that too
This game literally gives you a shitload of freedom in how you want to play it
warframe is a marathon, not sprint
yeah but you also miss daily tributes, daily standing, archon hunts and stuff
No. Warframe is not Marathon, that's by Bungie.
I've gone from 10-13 in like the past week
do not miss the point
The daily milestones arent "daily" as in you could be on day 1000, take a year break and come back to get your 1001 daily milsteone
yeah... we'd rather not be associated with bungie
Bungie dont own the word ffs
i went from 1 to 14 in 3 weeks, but yea im kinda burntout4
all I want and have wanted for the past month is getting mr 14 so I can get the zariman incarnon weapons as well as akarius and acceltra prime
...it's a joke
you're taking it too seriously
not laughing so it wasnt funny
exactly it messes up the chats real fast
Also, archon hunts are fairly inefficient and they are weekly, daily standing is not such a small amount to where its a problem that you "miss" a day or something, and other goodies like gifts of the lotus come in and stay for upto a week iirc
whats a good oxium farm? and whats a good weapon for it?
Warframe isnt meant to be played daily tbh, youre allowed to take breaks from it lol
also is kullervos bane affected by drop booster?
Honestly i dont think there is a good one, get afriend, one runs nekros, the other like khora or another farming frame and just sit in survivals/defenses (i could be wrong though, since there are bounties that give oxium)
idk but I keep feeding my oxium to the helminth and somehow still have 10k the day after
because whether or not you specifically laughed is the universal metric of how funny something is
Comedy is subjective 
True.
But the comment was very obviously not serious.
A month is more than enough time to get there
everyone is entitled to their own delu- cough cough opinions
You have to be delusional to have the same opinions as someone else
you have to be delusional to oppose my opinions
Or a robot.
Exactly
Great statement Sean! I agree! having the same opinions as someone else could be a sign of artifical intelligence!
as an AI language mode-
Ass Intelligence
The urge to do SP circuit solo is overwhelming but i dont think ill be able to do that
Sigh
Can I ask questions here or must it be somewhere else?
I heard someone complain about taking 3 months to rank up from 8 to 19
It wasnt a complaint, just how long it took me
Let me tell you that it took me two weeks to rank up from 9 to 12
It is not that hard
I could be at MR13 right now if I wasn't invested in farming relics.
Does the Nightmare Mode of Saya’s Visions change anything drop-wise?
Ask away if it pertains to the game
Besides the Nightmare rewards, no
Just more pearls iirc
No
Why does no one do Nightmare Missions in Pubs 😭
You have to ask questions in #gameplay-discussion
Well 1. How do I get to void fissures, 2. How can I get new stuff for the ship customization wise, 3. Are skins only purchasable with platinum, and 4. how do I unlock trading???
- One of the tabs at the top will be void fissures, 2. Plat most of the time, 3. Depends if you’re on console or pc console can buy any skin with plat but pc has to spend actual money on some, 4. Getting your mastery up, need mr2 or 3 to get trading unlocked
Is mastery 3 enough for trading?
Should be
- if youve got the relic segment then the easiest way to find fissures is on the top right in navigation 2) if its ships decoration then you get can buy stuff from like cetus to place around, if you want to change the color scheme then you have to go to equipment and then orbiter 3) warframes skins are only for plat on consoles, on pc some can be bought with money, weapon skins and other things can be found from Gifts of the lotus missions 4) mastery rank up
Only mastery 2 is required, just need to activate 2fa as well
whats the chance of getting 4 boosters in a row per daily login?
Im pretty sure i dont have 2fa and i can trade just fine
I wanna get stronger but IDK how
I actually have, or at least pretty close to it, so it is definitely possible.
Mods.
Modding
And since each of my boosters are 3 days at a minimum now, it was really nice.
same for the last 4 days been getting resource boosters
I like how wiki redirects from taktolyst to tektolyst
Yeah IDK what mods to aim for when 60/60s and stuff are out of the answer to me for now
What’s your current main weapon and frame
Been a heavy thing recently to get redirects setup.
Scroll through the 'Recent Changes' and you'll see a ton, lol
I want to become Stronk but I ain’t really got a main weapon yet and I’ve been using Volt, have Volt Prime ready in my Foundry but not claimed yet because I need to do other stuff first like get Koumei
Lift.
Together.
Claim volt prime, get him levelled and look into builds for him if you like him
hi, I have a railjack question. Does a railjack crew member assigned to the Gunner role will defend the ship if the enemies are on board?
One huge problem, I hate his Electric Shield and I have the Bare Minimum in terms of Warframe Slots so can’t right now when again, I wanna do stuff with Koumei
What frames do you have
also "arcane casimado"
Pretty sure they do yes
6 minutes and holy shit512 oxium
Im begging.... please can we have World on Fire Ember back...
is uhh voruna better than protea prime at certain stuff or overall?
one is a wolf lady, the other does time cartwheels
wasnt it kind of meh since it was limited to 5 targets?
nah, world on fire was great
iirc the devs didn't like fire and forget skills, right?
stares at vauban's 2 lasting 40 seconds at a time
closest we have now is electric elemental ward
nope if u never got the pleasure then just know it was top tier
when you wanted to watch the world burn, world on fire had your back
fr always a better frame to take at this point and she never comes out anymore 🙁
Ugh ive forgotten, but where can you get requiem relics?
thralls/hounds
whats the difference now between ember and uriel? ember augment is what knocked them over pretty sure so uriel is now the pre prime ember imo
kuva missions
dont