gameplay-discussion

[thorn widget]

I probably wasn't

[sick plover]

Anku defo on the last choice, I'd say Boar and Angstrum

[strong field]

Riven mods

[lofty garden]

Seems like a lost opportunity. I was running Excalibur Umbra for the melee kills on the 1999 calendar.

Boar Incarnon is fun.

[thorn widget]

Yeah I'm running umbra for ability kills

[lofty garden]

Works for melee kills, too.

[sick plover]

Gorgon is pretty good with atlas apparently

[lofty garden]

look up, put balloon in crosshairs, melee.

[tidal plover]

Can I show ya what I’m talking about?

[strong field]

I'm probably gonna pick just riven mods and Kuva this week in circuits

[thorn widget]

We need a frame with an exalted shotgun

[remote orchid]

thanks :)

[strong field]

I heard it's good in Gauss too with its Augment

[remote orchid]

how do you do that?

[strong field]

Scroll to the right

[sick plover]

pretty sure you must have at least gotten 1 incarnon from that week

i could be wrong, however

[remote orchid]

hmm i think so, cause i cant scroll

but good to know

[strong field]

Ah well I just find that out by accident, but I already pick rifle riven mod and 20k kuvas

[remote orchid]

[strong field]

You from the scroll wheel, I just scroll up and down to see what happen and voila

[tidal plover]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/8w9RxG @sick plover I know it's probably not very good or clear but basically I would like a Warframe that has Heat Abilities and can or has the options to fashion itself very similar to these references but creative liberties are allowed in terms of the helmet and stuff / I personally prefer more glowy-bits.

[lofty garden]

Seems kinda stiff.

[strong field]

Hmmm at this point, you might want Temple on this

Not the same but it has the same powers of the Woodman

[tidal plover]

I mean, if you knew what a Cyberman was...then it wouldn't be surprising given they are effectively cyborgs without the emotions and most of their humanity removed.

[strong field]

Only difference is Temple is a musician

[tidal plover]

I mean, it's armed with a Flamethrower and was a one-off enemy in Doctor Who but I just really like the aesthetic...

[strong field]

Flame ray? ✔️
Flame blast on the bottom? ✔️

[tidal plover]

I have no idea what any of this means XD

[strong field]

If you really like the aestetic wise, the 2 frames I know that can almost copy this look are electric theme and othernis... Smth rock themed

[tidal plover]

Sorry and also another thing I should mention, I'm obviously gonna need to have plat to pull off this aesthetic so yeah and whilst I'm loving Volt to bits, I am also starting to realise i'm very much the type of player to spam abilities and melee stuff which might be a problem.

[strong field]

You'll get what I mean once you see Temple

But yeah, if you're finding a Cyberman? Then none of the heat frame is going to fit that description base on fashiom

[tidal plover]

Like I said, I'd prefer more glowy bits because I like the orangey-glow in the chest and would like to have that more, everywhere....

[tidal plover]

Like I said, creative liberties can be taken.

[sick plover]

meanwhile im just a skeletony with a giant sword

[tidal plover]

#fashion-frame message
I mean I've made a few colour changes since this screenshot but like, this is pretty close to the aesthetic I desired @strong field also.

[sick plover]

im overcompensating

[strong field]

OK... One is Atlas Prime, his design is almost like that of a Cyberman

The other is Vauban Graxx Skin, though it's more of a suit than of a Cyberman

[tidal plover]

IDK if my ramblings are making any sense. Sorry if they don't Crowd.

[strong field]

I'm so pissed when I found out it's only a bundle skin

[strong field]

Hey no worries, I know the references, I watched doctor who

[sick plover]

agree on that one, yeah, the deluxe skin nowadays sucks since prime just outshines the deluxe skin

[tidal plover]

How badly did I do on the Volt Setup btw?

[torn egret]

ughhhh dual toxrica eleanor is offering has a measly 24%

[strong field]

Not bad, it's good tbh

[torn egret]

and cold too

[strong field]

I have that same feeling for Kuva Hek having 25 magnet only hahaha

[tidal plover]

I'd debate Vauban Prime is a pretty good aesthetic match to the Cybermen even if ya had to go with the Silver Variant (even if I prefer the Orangey Glow, the Blue Illumination is also pretty clean.)

Yet I'm miles away from getting freaking' Vauban Prime

[strong field]

Hahahah the materials you need to get are diabolical and exprnsive

[torn egret]

This is pretty pog tho right

[sick plover]

vauban is one of those very few frames i would say buying it outright with regal aya would be 100x easier

[tidal plover]

So whatcha think of the Volt Setup I have
-# Which also consumed most of my Platinum hence why I don't wanna play around with a new Frame until I can kit it out aesthetically.

[sick plover]

(the prime, that is)

[torn egret]

pox is 56% but i do not think pox feels good to use?

[tidal plover]

I'm merely saying that from my (untrained) eye, Vauban Prime matches the Cyberman Aesthetic pretty well but maybe I'm mistaken.

[sick plover]

i oughta check what my oxium is at

[strong field]

It's good

Not just that, it fits the aesthetic of speed

It may not follow the references you gave but it's ok hahaha you got it cool

[sick plover]

ah.

i will never lose all that

[strong field]

I mean my fashion are just simple

[strong field]

Nitain are Easy and Cryo are just time consuming

You are good fr fr

[strong field]

Not Vauban Prime itsekf

Vauban Graxx Skin

[sick plover]

unless i wanna craft 14 sibears, im set for life cryotic-wise

[tidal plover]

Again there is also the whole problem of me being the type of player who likes to get up close and melee stuff or spam abilities so IDK if that limits the frames I can use....

[tidal plover]

No no no, I heard you. I'm just saying that I think Vauban Prime suits better aesthetically.

[strong field]

You have 2 ways of using Volt tbh

I used volt as a melee frame with Xoris hahahahah

[strong field]

Oh aight, Coolio

[tidal plover]

What am I looking at

[tidal plover]

I meant in terms of the next frame I should be looking at building. Technically I am constructing all the bits necessary for Rhino right now but fashion is ya know…important to me

[fiery solar]

Since yall talking bout vauban (not even as strong as it can be, would be stronger if nidus had a nokko subsume)

[strong field]

Tbh Vauban is already strong

[trail forge]

What kuva weapons are worth getting besides the nukor and bramma

[strong field]

It's my go to when soloing most maps that has large enemies

[fiery solar]

Um no number must go higher to satisfy brain

[little sonnet]

zarr is prob more reliable than bramma these days since the ammo nerf

[tidal plover]

Sorry again to bother ya just, ya know. Not sure what to do.

[strong field]

I'm not thay type of person

If it kills, it kills

[tidal plover]

In terms of for my next frame

[strong field]

It's OK

[little sonnet]

hek is decent asw, & grattler is the best general-use archgun in the game

[strong field]

Rhino is a good frame too so that's why it's good to have him and invest on him

He is Tanky and good weapon platformer

[little sonnet]

ive been using valkyr a lot on my early game account, she's also great imo

[strong field]

Yeah she is, I wouldn't deny it

Not my type of frame tho but yeah

[tidal plover]

Why are all the good frames that have the Cyberman Aesthetic Vaulted 😭 @strong field

[fiery solar]

Make a nidus, I just made my arcane persistence 500% strength weapons plat form frame, with my hema I with 3 mill per shot and u also get to buff ppl, as long as u keep ur stacks up above 50 ur unkillable which should be easy if ur paying attention

[little sonnet]

also kinda helps that your best weapons early on or like in mid-starchart will be melees, like broken war & skiajati

[strong field]

Bc they are vaulted hahahahah

[tidal plover]

Problem, fashion. I hate to be that guy but like, fashion importante.

[little sonnet]

which valkyr makes really great use of

[strong field]

It's not fashion problem it's plat problem

[little sonnet]

also limbo is very useful to have at least in your back pocket for certain mission types and he literally takes 1 minute to build if you've completed his quest

[strong field]

Tbh I use Nidus as a weapon plat form

Really good if you want them BILLIONS

[thorn widget]

Alright bro

[strong field]

Need my Loki for that

[fiery solar]

Nokko subsume is multiplicative to link if u want even more numbas XDXD

[gilded patrol]

you kinda have to just accept you won't easily get fashion / plat until later on in the game (unless you buy with real money)

[strong field]

Yeah but Nidus alone is crazy good fr fr

Got my Nataruk hitting the first 1 BIL hahahha

[strong field]

Anyways, Yo I'm off to school, if you have questions you can ping me or DM me if you want

[tidal plover]

IK, I'm sorry 😭

[strong field]

The hard truth for designers

[wild vale]

how to do idle animation when your in mission / holding weapon?

[strong field]

Yeah I gtg tennos

Cya!

[tidal plover]

WHY THE HECK DO ALL THE PRIME WARFRAMES THAT ARE VAULTED HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR A GOOD CYBERMAN LOO-

Oh sorry for yelling.

[strong field]

Bc they are good

If you want... Lavos is a good Cyberman, but need the Deluxe Skin tho

More "alchemy" than Cyberman

And Lavos is prime is not vaulted so you can get it, at the same time, you can have the skin as well

[thorn widget]

It was a burston riven

[strong field]

Aigjt gtg for real, I need this class

[thorn widget]

get a good reroll and that riven should be a keeper

[tidal plover]

How od I get Lavos Prime?

[gilded patrol]

from relics

[tidal plover]

Thank you

[little sonnet]

you can search "lavos prime" in your void relic console in the orbiter to see which ones he comes from, & theres various missions you can do that are good for specific relic tiers

[gilded patrol]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Lavos/Prime

[little sonnet]

void missions in general are a decent option bc they drop a guaranteed relic after each one and the 4 different segments each correspond to one of the relic tiers

[tidal plover]

What does Upgrading Relics do and is it worth it?

[little sonnet]

makes it so the reward pool is more weighted towards the rarer drops

[vale falcon]

Only do no upgrades or max it for relics, middle tiers aren't worth it

[gilded patrol]

^^

[stark wedge]

just got this riven mod do you guys think its good?

[tidal plover]

So how do I get Lith L5 Relics and Lith G14 Relics for the Lavos Prime Parts?

[stark wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-meme-surprise-shock-gif-21311476

[little sonnet]

spamming the hepit capture mission in the void is an easy way to get lith relics, you can also do various low-level endless missions which will generally have lith relics in their drop table

[thorn widget]

are they okay

[gilded patrol]

any mission that drops lith relics, the earliest one I think is on Mars, the Olympus mission

hepit in the void is the fastest one though

[little sonnet]

tbh i don't rly like olympus for farming lith relics bc you have to deliberately mess it up for it to drop those after round 2 or so

[gilded patrol]

yeah

[little sonnet]

which feels really weird and slows it down

[gilded patrol]

I just listed it as an early option

[thorn widget]

you can also see where they drop in the codex

[little sonnet]

ya, it's decent if you don't mind going that route

[wild vale]

olympus is good for meso

but most bounty will drop meso relic, so overall you will have tons of meso

like for example plauge star bounty

[little sonnet]

also elite sanctuary onslaught is kind of nice bc it gives radiant lith relics

[gilded patrol]

reminder that he's barely started the game

[wild vale]

nah

[little sonnet]

ah yea

[tidal plover]

Is there any frame I haven’t talked about yet that is good for a Cyberman Type of deal?

[wild vale]

you dont need eso for lith radiant

just get resources booster

[tidal plover]

Just curious

I got a dupe blueprint part. Oh well.

[wild vale]

i really hate lith farming but best is void capture

[tidal plover]

OH NO

[tidal plover]

Uhm, part of the Lith Relics has been put into the Prime Vault that Id need for Lavos Prime. Should I be worried?

[gilded patrol]

Lith L5 is vaulted but Lith L7 is not vaulted and it drops the same lavos piece that l5 did

again

notice how top row of relics does not say vaulted, there is at least 1 unvaulted relic for each lavos piece

[tidal plover]

Oh I’m blind

[gilded patrol]

because lavos is not vaulted and he is going to stay unvaulted for like 1 year

[tidal plover]

I just don’t know how to pick the right Frame that suits my desired playstyle and aesthetic :/

How do I do both?

[shy wedge]

Watch videos

Circuit is also a good place to play random frames

[lofty garden]

next frame's name is Player Count

[tidal plover]

What

Also also is it bad I just copy my Warframe Colours to weapons even though some of them look terrible with copied colours?

[oblique sequoia]

Nah

[trim garden]

Do Vitriol Necramites still spawn?

[oblique sequoia]

I haven't found anything new about their spawns. Last I saw was 10 months ago saying their spawn was bugged

[trim garden]

I am going to flip.

39/40

[tidal plover]

Ugh thats less than ideal but thanks. I’m having fun on Volt lol

ALSO CAN I SHUT UP ORDIS

[tough notch]

remember folks, ||only psychopaths don't make their shards symmetrical||
spoilered for post new war things

[lost geyser]

anyone wanna help me kill my toxin lich?

[steady heron]

imagine not using all 5 violet shards

[tough notch]

was trying out cast speed to see if it did much

prob going to swap them for more violet

[lofty garden]

you can disable ordis

[tough notch]

either more violet or swapping those yellow shards to the equilibrium effect for more energy since I dont have normal equilibrium in this build

[halcyon dust]

Evening, guys.
Well, I reached level 30 with my warframes, a friend said I need to do the steel path, so I can tank up more enemies lvl 80-100!

If it's true, how can I proceed? where do I find the steel path, can someone talk about my next steps?

[steady heron]

clear the star chart

[coarse basin]

dw abt steel path for now
as long as you’re doing star chart missions, a few every day, you’ll get it eventually

if you aren’t done the current main quests, I wouldn’t recommend steel path

[halcyon dust]

Oh, okay

I'm almost finishing the star chart I guess, I need to finish some journeys yet
But I almost did the whole thing

Anyway, thank you guys for helping me

A friend told about galvanized mods, is it necessary to proceed, or I do take this after some time?

[tidal plover]

How does one find Orokin Caches?

[tidal plover]

HOW

[lofty garden]

audio menu options

[hollow cradle]

Orokin Vault in Deimos (corrupted mods)?
Orokin Cell?

[lofty garden]

See? Next frame is Player Count https://x.com/rebbford/status/2031149602167001212

rebb ford (@rebbford)

Naming the next Warframe we release “Player Count” to pollute the searches and defend against the discourse.

X · Mar 9, 2026, 11:26 PM

[hollow cradle]

The next release is Follie though

[tidal plover]

Archwing

[hushed marsh]

jfc the Protea Specter mission was hell to get through. And people keep defending these quests

[lofty garden]

Presumably she means the one after that 🙂

[hollow cradle]

You get first archwing from doing The Archwing quest when you get to Mars Junction

[tough notch]

the xoris quest or the star chart junction?

[lofty garden]

protea specter quest is how to use Xoris

[hushed marsh]

Xoris

The issue was that my sentinel was an absolute beast, so I couldn't get the killing blows with the weak Xoris to get the charges to stop protea in her four phases

[lofty garden]

leave your pet at home?

[hollow cradle]

Reb sometimes sticks her foot in her mouth.

[hushed marsh]

smh

[lofty garden]

Nah, it’s always the one after whatever is known to be coming

[lavish pebble]

Early game quests do not account for you being over-prepared/overpowered for them unfortunately.

[lofty garden]

you can just disable assault on the sentinel

[hushed marsh]

mid-mission?

[lofty garden]

no, you just abort to fix it

[hushed marsh]

at that point it would have taken as long to get to protea again as it would to just try and finish the mission, man. i get that there are workarounds but none of it excuses shoddy quest design

[tidal plover]

Yeah thats what I’m working on and it says 0/3 Orokion Caches and no clue where to go.

[hollow cradle]

what is 'it'? the junction tasks?

[lavish pebble]

Just a heads up, you don't actually have to find the caches to complete the mission.

The quest progresses even if you don't.

[lofty garden]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Resource_Cache

they make a noise when you get close and they look like a white box on the mini map

[tidal plover]

Not those ones

[tidal plover]

Thanks lol but its gonna bug me if I don’t

Well they are those but black. My bad @lofty garden

[tough notch]

whats the optimal mission for farming stella?

[trim garden]

EDA with the modifier that makes enemies spawn endlessly alongside the boss.

[hollow cradle]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/The_Archwing#Walkthrough
The Archive: Tessera, Venus
Level 10-12 Orokin Sabotage, Corpus
There are three optional Orokin caches, in the form of an Orokin locker with white light, in the void part of this mission only the marked cache is needed to retrieve the archive. All of the caches can be found before trying to reverse the portal.

[tidal plover]

I know they can be found but where and thanks

[hollow cradle]

i provided location

[tidal plover]

I might be blind sorry.

[hollow cradle]

Tessera, Venus

Oops, wiki says its Sabotage but Tessera is Defense.

Maybe its different because of Quest

[tidal plover]

That doesn’t tell me where in the level they are?

I’m in the Mission.

[hollow cradle]

Caches are random spawn, you have to look for them

You can only hear them when you are near them (few meters).

[stiff hornet]

Anybody wanna grind my star chart with me

[tidal plover]

Even these special ones?

[hollow cradle]

ALL caches

[mellow summit]

Is there a survival that I can just sit in for a long time and farm plat at the same time?

[trim garden]

Do you mean like farming Prime parts to sell for plat?

[mellow summit]

It doesn’t necessarily have to be that, like I was doing orokin vaults selling mods, but restarting and searching gets boring after a while. I also used to use Tyanas Pass.

[thick nymph]

sp omnia survival fissures

[mellow summit]

But I think the arcanes lost value since then

[pliant trench]

unless u wanna sell relic as in, 1 plat per neo relic

[tidal plover]

Why you so sure?

[pliant trench]

SP arcane are now use as vosfor fodder, use that to get new arcane type and sell it onward

[mellow summit]

I tried Zariman Void Cascade but that AMP grind is not for me

[pliant trench]

ngl omnia cascade is the fastest to speedrun open relic per rotation ~ under 2 minit

[hollow cradle]

Because all caches are random placement

[lofty garden]

They have specific spots in certain rooms, but there are a lot of rooms, and some rooms have several cache positions.

Like in the void, the room with all the cabinets and the five turrets that activate when you blow up containers, it can be in at least two different places in that room.

[pliant trench]

reason for omnia is u can get lucky to receive a full prime set from others/self relic reward drop

last week done 1.2 hours omnia cascade to sell baruuk p set, protea p set , dethcube p set and freaking 2 ivara p set

[mellow summit]

Do you radiant the relics or just keep it pushing with whatever

[pliant trench]

omnia basically ur prime suppler

[pliant trench]

with whatever

i just pick relic i own that have 50+ n above

most of it already vaulted (resurgence bulk buy)

[mellow summit]

I’ll do that when it appears then. Are speedrunning orokin vault runs the best?

[pliant trench]

i usually done or get around 90 relic each when new resurgence rotation drop

[digital rapids]

why cant i max upgrade my mods even with a forma

[pliant trench]

screenshot?

[pliant trench]

umm which mod u wanna max?

[mellow summit]

Does archon intensify work with gloom?

[pliant trench]

worst case u equip that mod in diff wpn, and that trigger a warning @digital rapids

[digital rapids]

pressure and true steel

[rich valley]

im guessing you dont have enough endo?

[pliant trench]

max em, should in capacity - if u got a warning might because u eqiup that mod in different wpn, that capped

[lofty garden]

endo and credits

[pliant trench]

sadly no, lifesteal doesnt count as healing

[radiant knot]

How rare are thumper spawns I wonder

[lofty garden]

not that rare

[pliant trench]

none-existed in night cycle

[radiant knot]

It's the day cycle

[pliant trench]

just equip fastest archwing, n ear wide open

go each camp

[radiant knot]

I see, alright

Thanks

[digital rapids]

ok yeah ur right tysm

[steady heron]

https://giphy.com/gifs/RespectiveCollective-talking-explaining-mansplaining-tBaghFwDzMMvRUUIgv

[silk arch]

So...
Where to get the tags

[severe trench]

Did Fulmin get buffed recently?

[polar marten]

Whats the good way to get potatoes (other than nightwave)

[pliant trench]

deimos - you basically go animal hunt

[polar marten]

Cambion drift
bring tranq rifle

[pliant trench]

learn the deimos conservative or tags farming in utube

[silk arch]

Don't even have those

[pliant trench]

prime?

[polar marten]

Get one in cetus

[pliant trench]

u can buy em unrank from cetus or fortuna npc

[severe trench]

Either version

[pliant trench]

no, last change make is 2024

did u have invigoration warframe or dmg passive imo?

[severe trench]

No I just saw a new pack for it become popular so I thought it got buffed

[pliant trench]

haha no, that just new starter pack w new cosmetic

[severe trench]

Ah that makes sense. Ty!

[pliant trench]

cheap n cosmetic is new that make it popular

[supple willow]

Lettie: Scaldra wants these back but they're not gonna come down here.. good thing you're not as smart as them, now get to work

Lettie... darling... you're not with me cause I'm smart, you're with me cause I'm a sucker for punishment and I'd dive into Lucifer's office just to beat someone up lol

[silk arch]

Breh no one is selling Tranquilizers

[supple willow]

you dont buy them, I dont think, they come with the gun

[pliant trench]

dude which npc u buyin from??

[silk arch]

Checked everyone

[pliant trench]

item call as tranq rifle, not Tranquilizers

only from fortuna and deimos npc, sell em

[silk arch]

Still nothing

[pliant trench]

with simple google typin imo

[radiant knot]

Bought mine from the biz

[digital rapids]

should u like follow the suggested damage given

[pliant trench]

wdym?

[digital rapids]

like

or can just do any element

[pliant trench]

that is faction weakness, and yes if u want to equip those in another config

althought if u lazy to keep change the config, use viral + heat build

or viral + elec, best so far as universal dmg dealer

[floral osprey]

imop viral elec is better for aoe weapons that hit hard (mabey not hard enough to instantly kill the thing but still quite hard) and viral heat is better for very fast fire rate weapons (ideally ones that also hit prty hard)

not always 100% true but not a bad starting ground

[deft peak]

hey yall, idk if its the best channel to ask but i got these two and i dont have the game sense to tell which is better (idk how bad a negative status really is on the dread))m

[pliant trench]

to use or to sell?

[deft peak]

using

[pliant trench]

pick right

[floral osprey]

right and just use hm and crit stuff

[deft peak]

what is the left much better for selling?

[floral osprey]

left is decent, right is ideal in everything but the negative

[pliant trench]

yes, since status chance is big no no stat to get neg

[deft peak]

i see i see, i usually dont sell rivens so im pretty bad on the pricing / grading on if they good or not

[floral osprey]

imop you can easily make the right one work very well so i wouldnt be to concerned about it

[pliant trench]

status duration to get neg is bigger problem cuz that where ur wpn DoT or CO usage

[floral osprey]

you can probably use 60/60 mods to mitigate negative status chance and mod like viral with 60/60s

[pliant trench]

status duration mod so far either have 1 only on each wpn

[proven nova]

acid shells. good or not?

[floral osprey]

i think technically pistols have 2 but thats because of augur seeker i think

[deft peak]

eh honestly id just use kompressa with a ton of status mods for the gunco

[pliant trench]

worst case u need to pair w bond build

[floral osprey]

very

[pliant trench]

get kuva sobek

[proven nova]

got a magnetic one, i was thinking if i should use acid shells on it or not. im building it for crit but i might want to change later

[pliant trench]

if u use to any warframe, keep the as it - to be primer or dmg dealer for shield type enemy

for saryn n oraxia u want to use tox element

[proven nova]

im mainly using harrow for guns, ember for melee and titania for defense. i just got the final part of saryn so i will be trying her!

[floral osprey]

its a weapon thats used on frames with weapon buffs that add an extra hit to the attak (saryn toxic lash, oraxia silken stride being 2 big examples) and the acid shells get counted as a hit which will proc the extra hit imbues

[proven nova]

also, is this too much multishot for the kuva sobek_

[floral osprey]

iirc you actually want cold progen so you can mod toxin because i recall being told that toxin mod affects damage while progen doesnt?

[floral osprey]

kinda, better things to slot instead of vigilante armamemnts, clip delegation generally is where you would put a bane mod but if you dont like using bane mods then you can use clip delegation instead

[tribal gyro]

More

[floral osprey]

heres the build I use for toxin extra hit frames (saryn/oraxia) with cold progenitor

[proven nova]

wouldnt 225% multishot be better than a 30% extra damage?

[floral osprey]

its multiplicitive modding as well as banes double dip. long story short every different form of damage buffs (fire rate, damage, multishot, crit chance, etc) effectively increases your damage multiplicitively while modding for lots of damage or multishot is addative

[radiant knot]

I wonder what nekros is for
I just built em because I had everything I needed for the guy and he looked neat

[trim garden]

I had all the scans done. The enemy was green. I went back to my Orbiter and checked the Codex. 2/3 scans. Why?

Nightcap. Shut. UP.

[floral osprey]

some weapons arent worth modding crit or status on so its a little bit case by case but in addtion to that bane mods apply on the initial hit as well as on the damage over time damage meaning for smthn like toxin it effectively gets applied more than once in the damage calculation for only 1 mod (however bane mods are not everyones cup of tea so if you dont want to use bane mods you dont need to but thats why people use bane mods)

[floral osprey]

hes used for desecrate. it applies up to 2x per enemy corpse by using a weapon with high slash or gore chance to sever boddies

[shy wedge]

Mostly for looting due to Desecrate but you can do Tank Summoner Nekros

[radiant knot]

Hmm, nice

[floral osprey]

tank summoner/ summoner nekros in general is funny but unfortunatly its not the main reason hes used, granted though it can be nice for some defence missions just having guys to body block for stuff

[shy wedge]

Tbh, building him as a tank summoner already makes you build looting as well

[radiant knot]

Thanks

Interesting

[oblique sequoia]

There are instances of disconnecting when using Nekros' 4th tho

[proven nova]

makes sense! its not a case of "not wanting to use bane mods", its a case of....

[shy wedge]

That's intended mechanic

[oblique sequoia]

I just woke up so I can't tell if this is a joke

[floral osprey]

eeehhh, not really. only thing desecrate scales off is range while shield of shadows has a 50m radius base and wants more duration and strength than anything

despoil is just locked at an unmodable 10hp a sec and removes the energy cost

[proven nova]

nevermind!

[trim garden]

I have been starting and leaving Deepmines bounties for hours.

[shy wedge]

no one uses Despoil anymore

ever since the Equilibrium changes

[floral osprey]

tbh you dont need to use banes. the sobek already hits like a freight train when used

[shy wedge]

except for very specific uses

[trim garden]

I want to kill all the Sprodlings personally.

[daring parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/one-shot-mushroom-mushroom-oneshot-darksouls-gif-19520559

[floral osprey]

??????? im prty sure its the generally used build for looting nekros to use despoil? i dont recall there being like notable equilibrium changes recently last i recall

[shy wedge]

orbs are now picked up even when you are full so you can proc equilibrium always

[proven nova]

on one side: yes
on the other side: big number go up -> neuron activation

[shy wedge]

the only archon shard I use is 1 Tauforged Violet and I use Nourish subsume

[trim garden]

D'aw, I really can't stay mad at them. Do still wish Nightcap would stop monologuing.

[shy wedge]

completely removes the energy problem

or if you don't want to use nourish, either use Equilibrium or use two Tauforge Violet Shard

[floral osprey]

idk where you got that info but i just went into similacrum to test it and you can stand on orbs and not pick them up when at full hp and full energy

[shy wedge]

Despoil is mostly used for specific builds like Vodyanoi endo farm

[shy wedge]

It's an update during 2023 bro

it's not a hidden mechanic or anything

[oblique sequoia]

I think they mean you pick up health orb when your full HP to recover energy and vice versa

[shy wedge]

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1368153-abyss-of-dagath-update-34

Back then you want Despoil because if your HP is full, you can't pick up hp orbs = cant get energy. Now that's no longer the case.

[floral osprey]

me sitting here at max capacity everything not picking up orbs

like im not saying your necisarilly wrong but i find it very hard to belive when im actively staring at orbs not being picked up

[daring parrot]

Is your energy empty?

[shy wedge]

I am not wrong so don't worry

[floral osprey]

no because i would use despoil desecrate so i would only lose hp if had enemies die nearby

[shy wedge]

well if you are full on both hp and energy it won't pickup anything which is normal

but if you have full hp but say 500/550 energy, it will pick up hp orbs and then proc Equilibrium

and vice versa ofc

Nekros will continously proc Desecrate so you are not full mana 100% of the time unless nothing is getting desecrated

• the extra orbs that Desecrate creates so you have infinite loop assuming enemies are spawning

[potent condor]

What's the max health a warframe can have? I can imagine Inaros with Camiscado and orange archon shards would be involved, but not sure of what the max would be.

[shy wedge]

But because Tauforged Violet Archon Shard exists, you don't even need to run Equilibrium. No need Despoil nor Equilibrium = saves mod slots = better building

no nourish = needs 2 Tauforged Violet, with nourish = needs 1 Tauforged Violet

[trim garden]

I want to apologise for any prior threats of harm towards Sprodlings. I was simply not of sound mind after listening to Nightcap for several hours.

[shy wedge]

Despoil most important usage rn after the Equilibrium changes is being part of the Vodyanoi Endo Farm Nekrosbuild

[floral osprey]

i mean is that not the same case if you just use desecrate with despoil and like basically no ability? this is what i run (2 duration shards a strength an hp and casting speed) and i really only use pillage if my shields break at all and with all the orbs from desecrate and companions only time stuff goes to my energy is generally because i used pillage as my "oh shit button" and then the rest just goes to hp

[mortal jackal]

Hey, just wanna ask if I should unequip stuff to the Warframe that I'll feed to the Heminth.

[floral osprey]

archonshards yes, everything else doesnt matter

[shy wedge]

Yes you can still use Despoil like before, but it is no longer BiS for him

[mortal jackal]

Thank you.

[trim garden]

Has anyone seen any Scrofa Drover Bursa recently?

[shy wedge]

that's why building him like a Summoner Tank automatically builds looting since now that you save mod slots, you can customize your build further

Also Primed Sure Footed is meh on Nekros since Shield of Shadows exists and it gives status immunity

• damage reduction

[floral osprey]

i mean again i just have to disagree on summoner tank builds him looting. 50m is the same as afinity range which is basically like the room and mabey the next room over

[shy wedge]

265% range is overkill

[floral osprey]

i need to loot the whole map

66.25m range

[shy wedge]

Nekros is a moving loot frame unlike Khora and Hydroid

and you won't be killing anyone that far

[floral osprey]

teammates might be on stuff like void missions for argon

[shy wedge]

Primed Sure Footed is a dead mod if you use Shield of Shadows

[floral osprey]

im sure if your going for specifically a stationary looting area then the range is not needed but still on any mission type where people are moving around and not standing still max range is nice

[shy wedge]

if you are doing pub survivals you wont be moving around and scattering all over the place unless you found a bad party

[floral osprey]

also your not immune to knockdown during your cast for your 4 plus throwing explosives at your feet is my favorite play style and not getting ccd because i decided to shoot a nuke at my feet is nice

[shy wedge]

at least in Asia someone will immediately ping a spot and everyone stays there, if you solo loot then you're either stationary or moving a lot so 265% range is overkill

[shy wedge]

getting to that point is not that hard + casting speed shards exists

kill 7, activate 4, and you just need to pay attention to your summons

no one is a threat on the first 30 seconds of your run

[floral osprey]

i mean also skipping over the 2nd half of that but go off. psf is only a dead mod on frames with inate cc/status imunity of which nekros does not have

[shy wedge]

eh I would rather have Cunning Drift there

[strong field]

Hello

[floral osprey]

i must get paired with a lot of bad parties then. regardless build functions just find and just relies on hitting stuff really hard with weapons to kill which isnt that bad plus i find shadows more annoying for farming so personal preference

[shy wedge]

I do agree that there are times where the summons go wander way far off of you that it ruins the placement of the enemies

but most farming spots have a spot that is either a one way or narrow enough that it won't matter anyways

[floral osprey]

to each their own however i like explosive weapons like xoris, strun incarnon, gorgon incarnon, plasmor, latron, burston, sporothrix, laetum, epitaph, etc all of which can self stagger. dead ass only reason i use psf is becauase i spam so many explosive weapons all the time that without it like half my play time would be getting staggered instead of playing the game

[shy wedge]

sup

[strong field]

How's it been

[shy wedge]

just talking about Nekros

[strong field]

Ooooo the og farming frame (bc he doesn't need Aug as his 3 is already a farming ability)

[floral osprey]

its not even that, its just i shoot on movement as well as they block vision or can mess with enemy pathing which i find more harmful for stationary looting stuff. I think summoner nekros is super fun, just not in the enviorments where im doing stationary farming

[shy wedge]

idk why its a problem on "shoot on movement" when most of the time you will outrun them and won't be able to follow you

[floral osprey]

also i personally am a big fan of desecrate because with any amount of healing from anyone you prty much will never have desecrate go down due to running out of energy

[strong field]

Wait what was the problem or discussion about Nekros?

[floral osprey]

"just not in the enviorments where im doing stationary farming"

[shy wedge]

that's a different point on the first sentence

stationary farming won't make you "shoot on movement"

[floral osprey]

"its not even that, its just i shoot on movement as well as they block vision or can mess with enemy pathing which i find more harmful for stationary looting stuff"

[strong field]

I'm lost hahahah

[shy wedge]

I do agree on the body blocking and vision though

but the thing is you are moving while shooting so you will outrun your summons

[floral osprey]

astraye is saying summoner nekros already builds into desecrate and im of the opinion summoner nekros doesnt really care that much about building range because shield of shadows has a base 50m range and duration and strength are more important.

[shy wedge]

stationary farming yes those two things are a problem

[floral osprey]

buddy. both sentences make mention of stationary farming

[shy wedge]

well at first it was on Equilibrium changes vs Despoil

then it's PSF vs no PSF

the tank summoner build automatically builds looting and that's a fact, all stats loot nekros wants is included in tank build there's no need for debate there

[floral osprey]

not really even on the psf vs no psf. i use it because i throw exsplosives at my feet and getting staggered for 50%+ of the gameplay is not fun. your more than welcome to slot it out for something else if your better at the video game / care less about self stagger

[shy wedge]

so I won't be debating that

[shy wedge]

that's just general gameplay ofc PSF is good

but on Nekros specifically its not needed

Shield of Shadows is 100% uptime unless you sleep while playing

[floral osprey]

shield of shadows as well as nekros dont offer any form of cc/ status immunity from what i can see off the wiki

[shy wedge]

and the first 1 minute of any run isn't a threat to you so you can immediately activate Shield of Shadows

after 7 kills or wait until you find a spot and then activate it

[floral osprey]

huh, did not think it counted for that

[shy wedge]

It's why I am saying PSF is not needed

at least for Nekros

[floral osprey]

eh im still a little special guy and will proabbly run away from my shadows like an idiot so idiot proofing my self is probably not gona hurt

but thats neat atleast

[shy wedge]

well you have 265 range

265 range should be 132.50m link range to your shadows

[floral osprey]

i just use 2 different builds because i dont build range on my summoner build

[shy wedge]

I sit at 190 range so only 95m range for me before it breaks but there's some wonky bugs that will still let you link even if you exceed

[floral osprey]

still tho, atleast for stationary farming imop summoner build from what ive seen ends up being a more detrimental just due to summons messing with enemies before getting to the kill zones where the hydroid or khora have thier stuff set up

[shy wedge]

well if you are gonna farm with a specific party setup then you will also most likely run a Nekros build specifically for that party setup

[proven nova]

how bad of an idea is rakta cernos vs eidolon? (just trying to avoid using a sniper)

[shy wedge]

but generally you can just run your Tank Summoner Nekros on pubs or solo for looting

[floral osprey]

like a 66.25m desecrate :D

also i just dont have survivability issues with my huge range nekros so while ive walked away from this knowing more about nekros i dont think i need the shield of shadow augment for my looting build but i might take off soulpunch from my nekromancer build atleast

[still wyvern]

I have discovered while experimenting with tank nekros that recasting the 4 will heal and teleport your shadows to you with a much shorter cast time than usual

if all 7 shadows are still alive I think

[floral osprey]

to my understanding is it will teleport alive ones and summon new ones if needed no idea on the cast time tho as i just use a casting speed shard and it feels comfertable at that casting speed for me

[shy wedge]

that's because he won't do the full animation to summon new ones

[still wyvern]

yeah I think the teleport/heal is commonish knowledge but the shorter cast time was a new discovery for me

[shy wedge]

if like even 1 summon is dead he will do the full animation

thankfully Tauforged Yellow casting shards exists

[still wyvern]

yup

[floral osprey]

just get 7 health leach eximus and then theyll never die

[still wyvern]

my nekros is strapped for shard slots however because of arcane persistence

there's probably room for a cast speed shard

[shy wedge]

oh arcane persistence route

[floral osprey]

or natural talent if you have a mod slot

[shy wedge]

I went shield of shadows + adaptations + armor route

[still wyvern]

I love taking 50 damage per second max

It's overkill for the vast majority of gameplay but I want to take it to level cap

[floral osprey]

how are you only taking 50 dmg per sec?

is it not 500?

[still wyvern]

shield of shadows redirects 90% of that 500

[floral osprey]

right

[shy wedge]

99% with adaptation

[still wyvern]

damage redirection is I think the only significant thing that applies after the persistence damage limit

[floral osprey]

damage reduction gets applied before persistence

[shy wedge]

I meant with shield of shadows my bad

[floral osprey]

i wish dr was applied after persistence 😭

would make the health regen breakpoints so much easier for some frames

[shy wedge]

I mean persistence is already strong

[floral osprey]

also just redirect 126% of the damage

[still wyvern]

I have a more casual build with circumvent that turns every eximus unit into 100000 free overguard

[quaint oak]

If DE adds a proper raid what faction should the first one be

[floral osprey]

iirc theyve said they dont intend to ever add raids

[jovial solstice]

you mean the third one?

clem

[floral osprey]

so none of them 😭

[quaint oak]

I’m excluding the removed raids

[floral osprey]

unfortunatly the removed raids are as close as were gona get to raids

[jovial solstice]

if they did add trials/raids again, it'd probably be tied to the murmur

[quaint oak]

They said they are thinking about it

[quaint oak]

That would be cool

Instead of an open world for Murmur its a raid

[floral osprey]

source? not cuz im calling you a liar but because i wana go see it cuz last i recall reb had put a big no on raids or if not reb then someone else

[cyan aspen]

why does heciphron exist man

[quaint oak]

I wish i remember which dev stream it was

[jovial solstice]

I do remember them saying it too at least, but it was specifically using the word 'Trials'

found an old comment in a server of mine about it with that specific wording... it was from 2018

🧓

[floral osprey]

yea i think i recall hearing in a more recent dev stream like within the last year or so that they put a no on raids atleast.

[jovial solstice]

Wouldn't be surprised, tbh.
But they were a lot of fun.

[quaint oak]

It probably won’t be called raids

[floral osprey]

so unless its like something super new i think you might be recalling the past

I mean you can call them whatever you want but it doesn't change that people have been asking for raids for a good while and I doubt they're gona just reintroduce raids but under like "legaly distinct name but just raids tm"

[tranquil kayak]

They've said through the years that they're planning on doing something with Trials (8-player raids)

Ever since their initial removal back in 20...18?

I think Trials were removed because no one knew how to play the damn things

[floral osprey]

I just have a prty vivid memory of ppl asking about raids coming back with going to tau and possible rj reworks and reb basically saying "we have no intention of bringing back raids" or atleast something along those lines

[tranquil kayak]

Seriously 4 players can't do the Kela De Thaym start properly how tf are you gonna get 8 of them to solve puzzles together?

[devout burrow]

warfame community way too dented for raids

[shy wedge]

I love getting Hildryn on ETA/EDA

[tranquil kayak]

I've deadass been stuck for five minutes straight waiting for everyone else to shoot the targets on the damn spinny thing

[lofty garden]

could just shoot the targets for them.

[tranquil kayak]

Could.
Won't.

Lmao

[floral osprey]

I wish I could say it's not that common to happen but I've had that mission where 2 ppl just stood on the plates and a 3rd person sometimes shot theirs

Prty sure we spent more time there then the actual fight

[devout burrow]

doesnt help the issue he stated

[cyan aspen]

kela de thaym is a solo mission ngl

[floral osprey]

"95% of warframe players cant pass this simple test" and its just the kela de thaym "puzzle"

[devout burrow]

if raids came back only the people that already do meta tactics would touch them

cause your average player cant even differ between addition and multiplication

[floral osprey]

i mean lwk i feel like the majority of people who interact here or just in the community are like basically predisposed to just spend more time caring about stuff like "meta" and understanding it or atleast getting a friend who can do it for them

so like while im sure all of us here probably hate getting matched with randoms on the kela de thaym fight because they cant shoot a thing that doesnt appear on mini map / have a health bar like were probably in the minority already of people who wouldnt immediately queue up for raids and instantly be lost on how to play the game

[trim bobcat]

Finally maxed out the left three syndicates

I can give away a free aug mod in exchange for shields of shadow

[tranquil kayak]

You think that's bad, I was the only person on Perita Rebellion at one point trying to recharge that sentient that you need to take cores to.

It does 20% each in a 4-player squad

By the time a core expired, I went to get another, and it went back to 0% again

[devout burrow]

most of the game is better played solo except relic missions

[tranquil kayak]

Five minutes later, they finally stop mindlessly killing and actually do the objective while I parked my ass up and watched

[floral osprey]

i hate that specific part cuz ive had it happen multiple times now where he just runs away from where all the charge things spawn so by the time you go get them and get back to him hes alrdy lost all the charge

[tranquil kayak]

We finished that run with 4 objectives complete

[devout burrow]

and even for simple things like exterminates you need a pre made squad atp cause you always have this one guy not bullet jumping or anything

running back 400m for an ayatan star

[trim bobcat]

Is #trading good to exchange augment mods?

[floral osprey]

if you want. your probably also able to check with your dojo to see if anyone there is willing to trade you or give you one for free

[devout burrow]

otherwise use trade chat or warframe market

[trim bobcat]

Nah, I am the only active in 5-player clan

[floral osprey]

just use wtt for want to trade

[frozen crow]

Where i can farm oxium

[devout burrow]

Io Jewpiter

[floral osprey]

jupiter io from what i recall

[trim bobcat]

How do you even use Warframe.market to trade aug mods?

[devout burrow]

idk, I just assumed it also has a WTT function but guess not, just use trade chat then

[still wyvern]

you're with new loka / perrin sequence?

[frozen crow]

Nvm

[trim bobcat]

Nah, steel/hexa/suda

[still wyvern]

I see

you could technically reach the rank with red veil through steel meridian (would recommend) but I can get you one in the meantime

[floral osprey]

even better if you just get a friend to do the other 3

[trim bobcat]

Yeah, I think it is time for me to move to the next clan

I got the dragon keys and unlocked most weapons required for combination

I am going to buy a simulacrum from hexis

[still wyvern]

it's not too difficult to max out 4 syndicates, but it bothers me when they lock an augment behind 2 allied ones

[willow bluff]

Circuit can help a bit for that

[still wyvern]

true

I hardly touch base circuit

[floral osprey]

or geting a friend

[still wyvern]

my friends picked the same ones as me 💔

[floral osprey]

im the only one out of my friends to be with perrin and new loka

[still wyvern]

probably because they're the most sauceless factions

[trim bobcat]

You guys go with simulacrum from similaris or your own syndicate?

[lofty garden]

best combo is new loka/perin and red veil/steel meridian

[willow bluff]

I didn't have access to Valkyr's augments because that was with horrible New Loka & pathetic Perrin Sequence, I got Eternal War augment from circuit.

[floral osprey]

similacrum from loid

[willow bluff]

More so because one is Nazi & other is Hypocrite.

[trim bobcat]

Alright I will buy exilus weapon adapter for now

[still wyvern]

on top of being sauceless

[trim bobcat]

It can be brought once right?

[still wyvern]

I don't particularly like red veil either but steel meridian is cool enough for me to overlook it

[floral osprey]

i have a crewmate whos my on call crewmate who just moans all the time and it annoys my friends so because i think its funny asf i cant ever switch up on new loka / perrin

[willow bluff]

People won't join them because Silver Grove PTSD & because of being forced to play & lose in index.

[floral osprey]

plus i give them augment mods and they give me augment mods so it works out

[trim bobcat]

Can exilus weapon adapter be brought only once per syndicate?

Or you can buy multiple?

[still wyvern]

multiple

I think

[floral osprey]

yea but i think its a blueprint which means you need to craft em with forma

[trim bobcat]

Ah, I have two, so I am not in a hurry

[willow bluff]

I don't think there's any consistent way to get those built versions

U can luck out if Acrithis sells those.

[floral osprey]

i think your best bet is like 1999 calander?

[willow bluff]

Calendar can also give blueprints instead of built ones sometimes IIRC, but yes.

[willow bluff]

However, this is guaranteed built if it shows up.

[floral osprey]

could be wrong but i feel like i consistently see atleast a built exilus/ weapon exilus

[still wyvern]

are you still after shield of shadows?

[trim bobcat]

Weapons from syndicates still count to MR? Like Telos Akbolto

[trim bobcat]

Yes

[floral osprey]

could just be tripping tho

[floral osprey]

yes

[trim bobcat]

Hmm okay will buy it

[floral osprey]

join perrin to get the best weapon in the game, the secura penta

[still wyvern]

I gotchu

[willow bluff]

Forgot that exists.
The other 2 Telos weapons are so good, it was inevitable.

[trim bobcat]

You are just saying that because you like New Lokka/Perrin

[willow bluff]

The only weapon demanding MR 18?

[floral osprey]

lowk its not that bad but like its 100% a meme weapon that i use to torment my friends with

[trim bobcat]

Yeah, I brought the most expensive one, the boltace

[floral osprey]

no clue tbh. iirc mr 18 is really just for rivens but i hit mr 18 ages ago so i never really bothered looking at what did or didnt need specific mr levels

[willow bluff]

Nevermind I accidentally read Secura Lecta

[still wyvern]

I have a shield of shadows for you 🫵

[pallid talon]

are the coda weapons 17 or 18?

[willow bluff]

The credit conversion of it scales with MR

[floral osprey]

secura lecta is 8, and secura penta is 12

[floral osprey]

17

[willow bluff]

17

[pallid talon]

17

[trim bobcat]

Ooh what do you need?

[still wyvern]

it's free

[willow bluff]

Secura Lecta drops additional credits from enemies when killed, the credit drop is affected by MR.

[trim bobcat]

Wait, can you do multiple free rank 5 rewards with multiple syndicates?

[willow bluff]

Caps at MR 18

[trim bobcat]

Like I didn't touch the free one for steel and switched to suda to rank up to 5

Then I get free reward for suda, but the free reward for steel doesn't show up

[floral osprey]

does it work with profit taker or whichever orb is used for credit farming

[trim bobcat]

I hope it doesn't delete by itself

[willow bluff]

Profit Taker's killing blow comes from an archgun.

[floral osprey]

so its not even usable really for credit farming? mby ig for tank fight if you get killing blow with like a slam?

[trim bobcat]

Can someone confirm this?

[willow bluff]

Index perhaps

[floral osprey]

1 and done

[floral osprey]

nah index is a mission reward not a on kill reward

dont even thing enemies drop credits in the index

[willow bluff]

I've seen it getting demanded in credit farming dedicated servers.
IDK for what, but it is very well known there.

[devout burrow]

lecta has the highest possible credit income in any credit farm

and its not even close

[floral osprey]

ok but how

i get it gives a 4x multiplier at mr18+ but like what mission or way is it used to farm credits

[valid granite]

Should I pick mesa or atlas from the circuit?

[devout burrow]

I mean a video of it is on YT ig so not much tech to be gatekept

[devout burrow]

gas and electricity DoT ticks drop additional credits on corpses

[floral osprey]

atlas if you are aiming for subsume, but iirc atlas isnt that bad of a farm while i dont remember how good or bad the mesa farm is

[devout burrow]

now imagine 20 enemies being crowd controlled in one place, chromas effigy, credit blessing, cred pet buff, cred booster + hundreds of gas ticks and hundreds of elec ticks quadratically scaling your credit drops

[floral osprey]

from what i recall is credit drops boosters and the sort are addative or multiplicitive not quadratic but i can see how it would be good

[devout burrow]

hold on lemme get smth really quick

[shy wedge]

https://wfpedia.com/posts/credits/secura-lecta/introduction/basics

[leaden locust]

anyone got tips for farming void angel?

I really dont wanna do 15 exterminate, just to craft praedo

[devout burrow]

this is secura lecta farming

[shy wedge]

all information on optimized secura lecta farming is here and its made by Credit farmers

talks about even how FPS affects stuff

[devout burrow]

just unfortunate lecta farming is so pay to win

[shy wedge]

^ need beefy pc or not optimal

[devout burrow]

but works on lower end things as well

wont be as good but it stays a good credit farm

[floral osprey]

looking at it it does indeed look liked credit boosting stuff is addative/multiplicitive (depends on the source but blessing and booster are multiplicitive atleast) and the quadratic comes from gas procs and eletric procs just do some weird stuff with multipule death instances which im assuming is where the quadratic bit comes from

but this is def interesting stuff

[devout burrow]

basically

the high amounts of credits come from the gas/elec ticks sucking more credits out of death animations

which is also why zenuriks slow increases credit income so much with this tech cause zenuriks slow affects death animation

[trim bobcat]

So who is giving it?

[still wyvern]

me

[nocturne elk]

is it better to run missions with nekros on normal or steel path with out nekros to gets rare mods

[floral osprey]

if your specifically farming for a mod then using looting frames will increase the odds of getting it

you can use nekros hydroid khora or atlas as some of the big name looting frames

you can also use atlas' petrify on nekros to get 2 of the looting abilities on 1 frame

[devout burrow]

go steel path

[floral osprey]

(it does need the ore gaze augment though)

[devout burrow]

steel path has 100% mod drop chance boost

[floral osprey]

better yet do steel path with nekros

[nocturne elk]

my nekros build lowkey sucks for survivability

im making it through sp decently with valkyr prime but im mostly relying on the self revive ability and the melee dmg boost

[strong field]

What do u mean?

[floral osprey]

use a shield of shadows build with desecrate or if you have it use pillage on a dummy range build

[strong field]

Yeah

[floral osprey]

this is high key my generic nekros build and between pillage and rolling guard the onlything touching my health is despoil

[strong field]

Shield of Shadows is very helpful

Made my Nekros (before I delete him) strong as hell

[strong field]

That's a nice name hahahaah

[floral osprey]

if your using ore gaze (dont have a build for that... yet) you want to lean more into some strength as well since it scales off strength (but range is good as well)

[nocturne elk]

i only have 5 of the mods you have on that build

[trim bobcat]

Just got Shields of Shadows for free lol, thanks @still wyvern

[floral osprey]

psf is uneeded if you just not slinging bombs at your feet. transient fortitude is there to just not go negative on strength (for pillage) and everything else other than rolling guard and despoil is to either increase the hp reserve for despoil or to make a stupid huge desecrate aoe

you can lowk probably drop some of the range for more strength and energy for ore gaze

[floral osprey]

glad you liked it XD

[lofty garden]

PSF is the best mod in the game

[floral osprey]

i have 2 duration shards and a strength shard hence you might get some different numbers on those but just from this alone is a 63% drop chance off ore gaze in a ~31m aoe infront of you and desecrate is 55m radius. only using desploil since it would otherwise be a ~16 energy drain per kill and i personally would rather spend that energy on more petrify although i havent put any testing into this and havent bothered to look up any builds so theres probably better builds for specifically petrify desecrate nekros

[floral osprey]

plus no psf so huge damage decrease

[shy wedge]

Shield of Shadows redirects any damage and statuses to your summons maximum of 90% depending on your strength%
He is also a big abuser of Health Conversion mod
You have Terrify to cc enemies
Adaptation is great for him although optional for lower SP levels

[nocturne elk]

ill have to start working on the mods to have higher survivability

[shy wedge]

Armor + Shield of Shadows + Adaptation setup

I don't use Equilibrium since I have Nourish + 1 Tauforged Violet Archon Shard to replace it

either change Adaptation or Augur Reach for Equilibrium or use 2 Tauforged Violet Archon Shard instead (1 if using Nourish)

[nocturne elk]

i dont have the second archon shard segment yet

[floral osprey]

long story short you got multiple ways to build nekros all that end up doing the same thing some with more survivability built in and others working on hopes and dreams

[shy wedge]

well adaptation is weird since you need it stacked

[floral osprey]

also isnt the math on adaptation that its like on average ~ a 50ish% dr?

[shy wedge]

thankfully Shield of Shadows exist

[trim bobcat]

Wait was umbra given a free aug mod or no?

[steady heron]

huh

[trim bobcat]

It's just umbral mods right?

[shy wedge]

Excal Umbra? you get all 3 Umbral mods

[trim bobcat]

I was thinking of acquiring the augment mod Chroma Blade for him

[shy wedge]

well most likely your summons died

[trim bobcat]

So he hasn't got Chroma Blade for free?

[floral osprey]

tbh i would reccomend rolling guard over adaptation just cuz i feel like adaptation almost promotes standing there and dying instead of killing the thing shooting at you so you can get your adaptation stacks up to ideally eat more damage

[shy wedge]

no

[trim bobcat]

Oh okay good

I am going to get one for him as a free reward for rank 5

[steady heron]

I never use adaptation

[shy wedge]

Adaptation maxed out + Shield of Shadows should go 99% dr + my build also stacks armor with Health Conversion

but Adaptation isn't really useful early on

you feel it more later when enemies scaled up

[floral osprey]

the thing is i recall hearing or seeing somewhere that like on average your adaptation is gona be around 50ish% dr unless you sit there and just let them shoot at you

feel like ageis would almost be better for survivability just so you can take a hit or 2 ideally have ageis proc and then between the shadows and ageis your just immune to almost all damage for 12 seconds

[steady heron]

you guys dont kill the acolyte in half a second or what?

[shy wedge]

yeah technically its hard to achieve 90% dr on adaptation

[floral osprey]

im just talking about in general, not even specifically for acolyte since if you want you can just run like some magistar slam and like 1 shot them

[shy wedge]

but adaptation in my Nekros build is more of an additional safety rather than main defensive measure

[floral osprey]

i think ideally you try not to die from the stray bullets that potentially can 1 shot you at higher levels

[shy wedge]

shield of shadows and health conversion is my main defense

[trim bobcat]

Does anyone recommend what mod to grab for free reward in suda rank 5?

[shy wedge]

invest in meta weapons xd

[floral osprey]

mods for whatever frame your playing or would like to play

[shy wedge]

Torid and Nukor isn't good for acolytes

[steady heron]

I literally cant play without praedos anymore

[trim bobcat]

Gotta check list for warframes in each syndicate

[floral osprey]

invest in the secura penta and stug

[shy wedge]

personally I have no problems since I run an acolyte killer for primary and aoe for secondary but you can do vice versa if you have a boss killer secondary

[floral osprey]

for movement or because it just kills stuff?

[steady heron]

movement

[floral osprey]

i just play chroma so i have like a 12 million base damage buff and it makes all my things all of a sudden do a lot of damage

[shy wedge]

Chroma outside of 1999 bounties, secura lecta farm, and Profit Taker in 2026

[trim bobcat]

I suppose Pilfering Swarm by Hydroid is a good start

I like his kit, seems fluid

[steady heron]

chroma is good with glaives

[floral osprey]

yea, i enjoy playing chroma cuz i can just bring a glaive and kill like basically everything and sometimes hit negatives plus i run 5 orange shards to make smthn like dual tox have perma redcrits because why not in addition to the insane base damage stuff

also chroma just abuses persistence and with omamori and guardian armour you heal enough to out heal persistence but still promotes an active enough playstyle to not cause me to pass out

[steady heron]

arcane persistence is still kinda buggy sometimes I just die of a heart attack or something

[floral osprey]

thats what omamori is for

free just "nu uh i dont wana take that damage" on a relatively short cd

unfortuantly it gets applied after persistence but since you stack stupid amounts of strength its still like a 3.smthn x multiplier healing you for 1.5k hp

[shy wedge]

one of the 5 Chroma players outside of 1999, secura lecta credit farm, and profit taker

[steady heron]

I have like 8k hp on oraxia and I can heal back to full on command

or I can just go invisible

[floral osprey]

i heal like 158 hp a sec prty much permanetly off of vex armour and as long as you keep moving around and killing stuff you stay prty healthy actually

omamori just stops you from getting insta droped

[steady heron]

I dont heal passively lol I just recast 4 and get all my hp back

[floral osprey]

actually nvm its 17% with growing power not 16% which bumps it up a little bit plus with doubled strength from relics it gets prty disgusting and im assumin i hit like ~11% of my hp a second

so yea with double strength its closer to like 326 hp a second with vex armour, thats neat

[gilded canopy]

which riven mod should I delete?

[steady heron]

prime charged shell

[floral osprey]

lowk sell the bassocyst since its got a really low disp unless you really like it

[lyric sundial]

im bored what do i do, i wanna try new fun frames

[slender violet]

why is it so big

[willow bluff]

Coz it's a shotgun as secondary

[glossy violet]

the

PYRANA

[devout burrow]

Cant even say arbis anymore either cause he got powercrept there too 🥀

[royal harbor]

whgeres the best possible place to farm neurodes??

[frozen wadi]

My ex step mom

[unreal ruin]

prolly the deimos 3 headed boss

that guy has the chance to drop 1 for each head and the final fight

or you could use resource extractors on earth

[royal harbor]

what mission that

[unreal ruin]

magnacidium

man the grind for akarius and acceltra is so hard

wtf you mean 80 kills of the juggernauts

[still wyvern]

heat

83.3% heat
but no heat

[glossy violet]

would you eather have unlimited status but no heat, or unlimited heat but no heat

[radiant knot]

What's the way to get cetus wisps

[unreal ruin]

whos the most annoying to get?

[gusty turtle]

They spawn on a specific route

[pallid talon]

mesa probably

[gusty turtle]

Grabbing archwing and going to Cetus

At night preferably

[pallid talon]

but chroma requires crafted parts from other warframes

[gusty turtle]

And just fly around the water edges

All of them

[radiant knot]

So that's how, thanks

[true kayak]

They show up on loot radar

[gusty turtle]

At night because their eyes glow in the dark and it's easier to spot

[pallid talon]

chroma requires more crafting time but mesa's grind is locked behind mutalist alad v coordinates, which is a relatively rare invasion drop

[gusty turtle]

But yeah they do show on loot radar as well

Not affected by vacuum though

[true kayak]

Need to run into them

[pallid talon]

i got lucky with my mesa grind and got everything in 4 runs, but there's a high likelihood you'll need more

[true kayak]

Atlas needs a good archgun for the boss

[pallid talon]

with the arcane adapter, it's really easy to get a good archgun now

if you grind for atlas after the new war, he's not that bad

[true kayak]

Who’s doing new war before chroma quest?

I thought it was a prereq

[oblique sequoia]

Never thought I'd see the day... I'm actually out of Forma bps

[pallid talon]

i did it after the new war

that's just me tho

[oblique sequoia]

Is there a sound cue when your Kavat gets bit by a Vasca?

I'm about to try and get genetic codes for those

[true kayak]

Don’t think so
Just look at their health bar

[chilly jungle]

is perigale actually worth it or is it like one of those weapons that is glaze on youtube but isn't actually good 💔

[true kayak]

Not great

Mediocre single target weapon

[lime basin]

Fellas i've been feeding my Oraxia Kale and Avocados

She's so healthy. How do i cope?

[steady heron]

Australian spiders be like

[gusty turtle]

Actually

It's not single target

It has an unlisted gimmick

When shooting unscoped it has horizontal spread

[unreal ruin]

chat is the acceltra good

[gusty turtle]

It's ok, but extremely overhyped

Akarius, on the other hand

[lime basin]

I fully understand the persitence nerf after this. If nullifiers couldn't disable it, i could straight up be shot for like 15 minutes without needing to heal!

[rich valley]

do you have enough mods to make it good enough?

[steady trout]

Guys im trying to connect warframe account to warframe market but while trying to compose new msg for verification im getting this what am i supposed to do pls help

[unreal ruin]

probs idk

[jovial crater]

Why is Simulacrum need mastery rank for enemy lvl? seems kinda stupid i just wanted to see how much dmg i can do, but all hits aren't landing bec enemy too weak

[gusty turtle]

So that clueless people won't get discouraged by trying their +23% impact Kuva karak with underleveled mods on level cap enemies

But I absolutely agree that they should bump up the max available level to ETA

Since it's the highest available level to play against under normal circumstances

At least once you unlock it

[red holly]

don't you insult kuva karak

[gusty turtle]

Oh I see

You're a true karakhead

[red holly]

kuva karak is an amazing weapon

absolutely peak

[soft light]

does the negative SD ruin this?

[digital rapids]

what happened to my warframe😔, currently at new war

[red holly]

if you are not going to be using for statuses, then not really,

[soft light]

looking to sell n preciate it

[red holly]

maybe an ivara player would appreciate it

[quaint brook]

play the new war and find out

[royal harbor]

wheres best to get morphic guys

[glossy violet]

mars

capture or extermination, its literally almost a common resource in mars

[chilly jungle]

fr 💔

[true kayak]

Ivara zenistar builds run influence typically
-SD is awful

[oblique sequoia]

Hey, the Sarofang is actually pretty fun to use. I was not expecting that

[naive geode]

If I flirt with others while dating someone would it come back to bite me in the ass? (Is the Hex I did not think anyone would think it will be irl)

[oblique sequoia]

Probably, yes.

I never tried it bc I already picked who I was going for lol

[untold silo]

When people say a frame is vaulted it means you cannot obtain it now other than thorugh trading?

[floral osprey]

between that or through prime resurgence which is basically just a rotation between vaulted warframes as they come in and out of resurgence

[spring idol]

Yep warframes that are not on the rotation of resurgence or in the relic packs

[quartz marsh]

Guys does forma polarization only applies to specific weapon or all the weapons?

Also does it matter which symbol I will polarize it to?

[little sonnet]

it only applies to the one weapon you add the polarity to, and the symbol has to match the one on the mod(s) you want to put in that slot

which will generally be whatever mod has the highest capacity drain in your current mod config

[quartz marsh]

So it doesn't which mod slot I will polarize as long as I put the same symbol mod there

And does it consume forma if I want to change the symbol?

[little sonnet]

ya

if you want to polarise a mod slot to be compatible with all symbols you'll need an omni forma, which are pretty hard to come by

[quartz marsh]

Ig the best practice would be to forma all the mods slots first instead of changing the symbols when u need different mods

If that makes sense, instead u will waste forma if u change the symbol when u already have mod slot which isn't polarized

[little sonnet]

ya ideally you'll never change the symbols unless you're doing a lot of experimentation n whatnot

[quartz marsh]

Or if u haven't polarized all the mod slots ig

[little sonnet]

on most weapon builds the symbols you want won't vary all that much between builds and you usually won't need to polarise every slot, warframes can be a bit different

[keen shore]

Just got the syam any thoughts

[little sonnet]

but even then that mainly comes up if you're doing fairly niche buildcrafting. it's good practice to use polarities you expect to be shared across as many of your builds as possible

[red holly]

syam is cool

[slow oar]

Im new to rivens and i wanna ask which one should i keep?

Thanks

[red holly]

left

ammo maximum is useless

[keen shore]

Get a room

[trim garden]

I have "completed" the Codex.

[quartz marsh]

Alright thanks for the help bud 👍

[slow oar]

Question should i max the riven first before trying to trade it?

[chilly jungle]

when are they going to nerf overguard on both players and enemies

[strong field]

They wont

[still wyvern]

what does overguard need a nerf for lol

[strong field]

Yeah

Like............. Magnet is there

It'll nerf the overguard XDDD

[red holly]

access to magnet damage and status is easier than ever

[still wyvern]

the only issue I have with overguard is that it makes CC even less viable in some instances when it's already subpar to just nuking everything

[strong field]

Hehehe hehe not for my Goat Vauban!

Though he is more CC than nuking

[still wyvern]

aren't eximus immune to vortex?

[strong field]

Not until Vauban's 1 and Vauban's 2 damaged it to none

[still wyvern]

true, the overguard strip

[strong field]

Yes sir

[still wyvern]

until the photon strike beacon gets pulled into a vortex where the overguarded enemies aren't </3

[red holly]

maybe if overguard instead of giving you status immunity it would give you status resistance

[strong field]

That's why he is the goated CC King!!!!! (ok I'm just glazing, but half of it is true hahaha)

[strong field]

Like Adaptation?

[strong field]

Hahahah I remove Photon Strike bc I'm not into Nuking

[red holly]

either a status resistance decreasing with each stopped status instance or just a flat 50% status resistance or so

[still wyvern]

status resistance wouldn't work too well with things like knockdown which is a huge draw for overguard

[red holly]

are people not using unairu?

[still wyvern]

not really

[strong field]

Maduraai is mostly used

I use unairu sometimes

[clever glacier]

zenurik…

[red holly]

maybe it is just me then

[strong field]

That energy this is what I needdddd

[clever glacier]

more energy is more fun

[red holly]

I get my energy from duplex bond

[clever glacier]

zenurik has some nice passives that improve on that and the wellspring is nice to jumpstart you

my mag build generates way too much energy

[red holly]

duplex bond is spend energy to get more energy

[clever glacier]

synth deconstruct is a must have

[red holly]

you know what

maybe I will get it, maybe

but I don't have energy issues

also I am using a kubrow so it won't be AS useful as duplex bond energy

maybe if I was using a sentinel with verglas, or anything that would allow to hit multiple enemies like that one posture mod

[clever glacier]

some frames suffer more than others, also a lot of builds will just have so many auxiliary tools for energy you tank a blind rage’s efficiency loss and run 45% efficiency

[red holly]

I actually want to spend more energy on my frames so I activate duplex bond, or just have a frame that has cheap spammable abilities like volt

than can press 2 like 20 times and spend enough energy for all of the duplex bond clones

[keen shore]

That mod always gets my pet killed , grineers be firing rockets onto the clones only for my real one to get hit in the aoe

[pallid talon]

emergence dissipate lowkey makes zenurik redundant

great arcane for emergency energy

[clever glacier]

im running way too much energy on my mag

zenurik stacked on nourish
arcane energize
primed flow
equilibrium
tauforged violet equib shard

[lime basin]

After hours of aya farming, then hours and hours of relic cracking. Ive done it

[deft fox]

Guys in mobile I cannot see which weapon for a kuva lich

[lethal fiber]

Hello all if someone cab give me tips im beginner plz

[rich valley]

Sell duplicate mods for extra endo

[lethal fiber]

Ok thanks

[floral osprey]

take your time, spend your starting plat on warframe and weapon slots, dont worry about what weapons are good or bad just get as many as you can and level them up, same with frames, untill you find stuff you like

[eager axle]

How's warframe mobile play? I might have to play it for a few hours so if anyone's played I'd like to hear your experience and whatnot

[shy wedge]

As much as possible, do your neutral syndicates. You don't need to do all of them daily but giving some time to try and reach the daily cap will help a lot in the long run. You unlock a lot from doing them + a good source of platinum.

[shy wedge]

#android-discussion

There are bugs and glitches but overall it looks like it's playable. You also get to aimbot on all weapons.

[keen shore]

I will see you in cascade brother

[radiant knot]

Does nekros' desecrate also work with life support drops

[eager axle]

No access

Im a abilties mostly kind of girlie so that's good to hear

[keen shore]

1.DO NOT OPEN the Ingame trade chat it's filled with scammers n spam bots
2.warframe is a marathon, it has no FOMO meaning take your time n enjoy the game
3.the first plat you were given use it on weapon n warframe slots
4.avoid YouTube videos saying this frame,weapon and companion is meta EVERYTHING is meta if built right
5. Unlike destiny warframe will need 1 of these things from you to be strong 1.YOUR TIME or 2.YOUR WALLET, it's up to you to decide
6.if you ever get stuck go to the Q&A or recruiting channel n ask people for help they are willing to help cause trust me we all know how painful it was to start from zero

[fair ibex]

replace polarise or pull with breach surge ?

[lethal fiber]

Ty all

[clever glacier]

what kind of build are you doing

polarize is your best shield gate tool

pull is good utl

[fair ibex]

max range , magnatize, crush - yeah thats what i was thinkingh

[clever glacier]

fracturing crush?

[fair ibex]

y

[keen shore]

Also there is a node on earth called strata relay always go to it in the busy session n just spend time there like 30mins people will always give blessings that will come in handy

[clever glacier]

I guess pull probably

polarize is just too good

[fair ibex]

yeah ty, thats what i was leaning towareds because of how fast polarize is

[radiant knot]

I am still quite saddened that I missclicked and spent 30 platinum on something I didn't want to use it on when I started

[clever glacier]

I personally like pull and I subsume over her 4 but that’s a completely different type of build

[lethal fiber]

Ok anw how can i get better warframe? I have the basic one

[fair ibex]

yeah fair

[hollow sparrow]

Tenno out here saying all weapons are potentially meta. Even the Mk-1 variantS?

[keen shore]

What's your Mr right now

[hollow sparrow]

"Basic" one? You mean the starter? The starters are good and can even carry pretty far. Mods will make the equipment.

[clever glacier]

braton mk-1 incarnon… I don’t think you can but it would be funny

[keen shore]

A few of them have incarnons and descent stats for star chart NOT LVL CAP

[vale falcon]

I have heard of people taking mk1s pre duviri to level cap before, so probably

[pliant trench]

what ur MR and what u expecting gameplay?
brain rot strategy = spamming
synergy = skill rotation per cast
go full support = wisp/dante

[keen shore]

Oh yes nice question

Does he want to be a spammer n everything dies or support or miss click once n your dead builds 😂

[pliant trench]

equinox so far has quite a lot of rotation, wrong cast and ur stack is gone lmao

[hollow sparrow]

Equinox farm is pretty bad unfortunately.

Thankfully next update is supposedly addressing that.

[keen shore]

I heard gonna get fixed

[clever glacier]

it took me 37 jackal kills for rhino

[pliant trench]

she gonna be available in circuit??

i hope their also address khora drop in SO

[keen shore]

I think drops gonna get touched by pablo

[hollow sparrow]

I get the feeling they're just gonna condense her parts into standard warframe parts instead of segregating day/night types.

[pliant trench]

boo de make new player to not suffer as vet

such youngest sibling standard

[vale falcon]

Khora, ivara, equinox, are a few of the frames I remember hearing are getting improvement to their obtainment

[keen shore]

Oh btw this might just be me but please stay away from revenant he will stunt your growth on how the game works

[pliant trench]

true that

[lethal fiber]

What is MR..

[pliant trench]

your account "mastery" rank

[vale falcon]

Mastery rank, basically account level

[lethal fiber]

Ok

[keen shore]

Your account lvl

[pliant trench]

MR is requirement for u to unlock and craft certain stuff in this game

[lethal fiber]

Level 3..