gameplay-discussion

[lofty garden]

I’m sure players enjoyed scarlet spear. I’m sure all of DE that worked on it did not.

[red holly]

for sure

[glad tusk]

It'll hold its own but it ain't anything special

[rich valley]

One of the event people didnt mind max range Limbo player

[potent condor]

I use Nikana because it's light and perfect for general use, either going with your melee as main or backup. If you want to use melee for level cap, there are better melees for that, especially if paired with Valkyr or Excal.

[red holly]

if you want a nikana that's better than nikana prime, just use Syam

it's more interesting as well

[potent condor]

I should eventually make a good build with Syam, haven't used it since Duviri launched. Even got a riv for it.

[steady heron]

I just saw a corrupted moa at level 10001 🤔

[pure gulch]

corrupts can go past the 9999 limit cus they get +3 levels on corruption or sum like that iirc

[true timber]

hello??

my railjack tweaking dog

[timid gate]

I am getting this any tips and tricks i should know

[cosmic kindle]

They made a entire account with that name?!?!

[timid gate]

Beginner here, mr2

[steady heron]

https://giphy.com/gifs/seven-six-hardpunjabigifs-6lhWhkfSjPSA8actTr

[fair ibex]

the emphera is really cool looking

[south girder]

It’s very good if you have 2 dolla to spare

[cosmic kindle]

Ok that was funny

[gaunt solstice]

hello

should i invest forma in nekros or wait until i get the prime?

[timid gate]

Yes, I do. I always wanted to play the game but my laptop which is on life support for years couldn't but my phone can barely handle it. So I want to purchase this bundle as a token of support, I heard positive stuff from the community too, they are helpful which is somewhat also driven by developers attitude towards the general audience/player base

[drifting fern]

Iam almost level 3 with necraloid. All things considered this was an easier grind. Its surreal looking at all the older comments at his wiki page with people talking about how much of a pain it used to be

[timid gate]

Emphera?

[fair ibex]

the bottom thing, its like an aura around your character

[south girder]

Aura

[timid gate]

I see

[drifting fern]

Ephemera

Seeding step ephememaraa

[south girder]

It’s essentially a white fire aura

Which you can change the colour of

[fair ibex]

its a rainbow aura

it looks dope

[cosmic kindle]

I guess it depends how much you think you'll use him to farm materials till then.

[timid gate]

I wish they added a few platinum in that bundle like 25 plats or 50 plats as appreciation ngl. Though the other stuff is good in itself

[gaunt solstice]

i think quite a lot cause i need resources

[south girder]

I mean i guess it’s cause it’s meant to be a starter pack

[gaunt solstice]

a lot of them actually and im trying to find a despoil mod cause i messed up my syndicate standing😭😭

and this is my current build which sucks ahhh

[timid gate]

Yeah, same. Platinum is really useful I saw players in the in game chat selling prime stuff or good items for 50 to 70 plat, for budget newcomers. I wish I could do something

[fair ibex]

if ur new just play, you dont need to buy anything other than maybe a slot or 2

trade chat is a bit of a rip anyways

[gaunt solstice]

i dont think i will spend plat to trade for his prime so until he is unvaulted i dont think i will upgrade? so shouldi i nvest forma and reactor?

[timid gate]

I used my given 50 plats for a warframe slot and 2 weapon slot

[gaunt solstice]

it is, i asked for titania prime and it was 160 plats while i traded for 1 set from market for 62 plats

[fair ibex]

yeah perfect, you dont really need anything else for a while fam

[fair ibex]

yeah trade chat is lame lol

[timid gate]

Alright, but I am getting jumped by NPCs. The tutorial enemies and normal enemies are so different

I kept dieing

[fair ibex]

thats just practise mate 🙂 ull get the hang of it

[gaunt solstice]

so about this? should i do it?

[fair ibex]

at least a reactor

[gaunt solstice]

mods are your friend

[fair ibex]

if ur just using him for a farm you dont really need to forma him imo

[timid gate]

Yes some told me that, I am not getting much of them unfortunately. Also endos ran out so I struggling

[fair ibex]

just keep at it, youll end up with loads and loads of mods to make endo, just upgrade mods ur gonna use 1 or 2 points, so they fit in ur frame and dont cost much

[gaunt solstice]

hmm alright

[timid gate]

This is the reason I also want to get the fulmin bundle. Obviously first upgrade the stuff I got already for mr

[timid gate]

I see, doing my best

On mobile it's kinda difficult to play. But I got the hang of the bullet jump i think, a little so I am happy

[fair ibex]

that my nekros , its fine for just grinding materials, i dont really do anything high level with him just farm stuff like pastids etc

[gaunt solstice]

yo damn i need a despoil badly, i messed up my syndicate standings now i can never get it...

[fair ibex]

have u gt max rank with any other faction?

i just traded mod for mod for mine

[gaunt solstice]

yea arbiters annd cephalon in a day or two

[fair ibex]

ahh ull get it then

[gaunt solstice]

and steel meridian after it

[autumn sparrow]

Why is there not an option to put arcanes on my weapons, unlike my warframes?

[gaunt solstice]

it is only from perrin sequence or new loka iirc

[glossy violet]

i gotchu

[glossy violet]

whats your ign?

[gaunt solstice]

Vakrin0

[glossy violet]

is unranked ok lmao i'm a bit broke on endo

[shy wedge]

People still use despoil nowadays?

[fair ibex]

if u want mods from other factions when ur max rank you trade a mod from your faction with some1 else who wants something from yours

[glossy violet]

give me a sec to load into my dojo

[fair ibex]

i got most of my augments that way

[gaunt solstice]

ohh i see

[gaunt solstice]

isnt it like one of the best farmiing augment

[fair ibex]

yeah u use it on nekros

[shy wedge]

Ever since the Equilibrium changes you don't really need it anymore

[timid gate]

@fair ibex buddy which frame should i get after I maxed my excalibur is at 26 or 28. What will be good for me?

[fair ibex]

honestly mate, thats a personal thing 🙂

[shy wedge]

Or if you use Nourish subsume, you can ditch Equilibrium and just put 1 Tauforged Purple

[fair ibex]

just gotta look at em and see what you like the look of

[timid gate]

You guys are experienced so i am sure you guys know what's up with these frame which are meta, best for low budget players and easy to progress with etc for new players

[fair ibex]

im pretty new mate, if u just keep on with the story youll get rhino soon and hell be good for you while u get the hang of things

[autumn sparrow]

mag

[gaunt solstice]

rhino you can get from fossa/venus

also hes a pretty good subsume

tanky/buffs

[autumn sparrow]

Zephyr from clan dojo is really fun and good

[fair ibex]

bro probably doesnt have a clan yet

[gaunt solstice]

wukong from dojo is good for fast clearing

[south girder]

Friend of mine doesn’t like Rhino cause he’s a weapon platform

[fair ibex]

wukong is also expensive to build

[autumn sparrow]

cant you join a clan at like mr2?

[shy wedge]

Ever since the Equilibrium changes, no it's just a waste of slot. Equilibrium is more than enough or if you use Nourish subsume like me, you can put 1 Tauforged Purple Shard and skip Equilibrium to save a mod slot.

[south girder]

She likes casters ig

[fair ibex]

yeah i just mean from what his saying he probably doesnt have one

[autumn sparrow]

Join a clan, it is how you get a lot of very important blueprints for weapons and warframes

[gaunt solstice]

wait fr?

he was my second frame

[fair ibex]

well i dunno he costs nitrian or w/e which can be expensive early on ig

[gaunt solstice]

i didnt know how to get rhino

[shy wedge]

Spy Wukong is not expensive. The Exalted build I would say mid investment. Slam Wukong is also mid investment imo.

[fair ibex]

yeah i went mag / rhino / Nova and now just play nova while collecting other things

[gaunt solstice]

this build good enough for now?

[gaunt solstice]

i like his speed for capture and exterminate

bro is just a goofy monkey

[shy wedge]

Despoil waste of slot

[glad tusk]

I just worry that wukong gives new players bad habits

[shy wedge]

You already have Equilibrium. Before, Despoil is actually BiS but they changed Equilibrium so that you can still pick up orbs even when full so now Despoil is just dead.

[fair ibex]

no expensive to build his frame early on, i didnt want to spend nitian that early

[lofty garden]

Three more dojo colors left to find dye for.

[gaunt solstice]

what else should i put instead then?

[lofty garden]

Equilibrium?

Oh, shield of shadows

[gaunt solstice]

i have it

dont have it

[shy wedge]

Blind Rage

Shield of Shadows is also good

[gaunt solstice]

but wouldnt the efficency go down?

[lofty garden]

Well, maybe get it?

Good to have goals

[shy wedge]

Irrelevant to Nekros

You create so much orbs with desecrate + Equilibrium you have almost infinite hp/energy source

[lofty garden]

I'd probably swap out primed sure footed for something else and add equilibrium if I didn't have energize

[autumn sparrow]

can i borrow that arcane energize

[shy wedge]

PSF is a waste of slot

[lofty garden]

You can get your own in 26 days

[shy wedge]

You already have Shield of Shadows

[lofty garden]

I just said I'd probably swap it out...

[shy wedge]

Energize imo is a waste of slot

[autumn sparrow]

yeah its so bad

you should give it to me

[lofty garden]

Energize was doing work, so...

[hushed hull]

can I borrow some plat?

[autumn sparrow]

can i borrow a car?

[fair ibex]

you wouldnt download a car

[autumn sparrow]

I woul download a car

[fair ibex]

lol

yeah that advert was a lie

[lofty garden]

Oh, I was using this to farm for leech ospreys. While I have shield of shadows, I wasn't using it.

[shy wedge]

Streamline is a waste as well because of how energy economy works on Nekros

[lofty garden]

efficiency lowers the per-unit drain of desecrate

[shy wedge]

Yes but you create so many orbs its barely needed

[gaunt solstice]

well i dont have standing with perrnin or red veil

those guys hate my ass

[fiery solar]

Since flechette orb is coded as a weapon, does it get the 60% fire rate buff from that one companion mod??

[lofty garden]

you can just run primed sure footed instead of shield of shadows.

[shy wedge]

I use Nourish + 1 Tauforged Purple and energy isn't a problem. Equilibrium won't have problems as well. I have 45% efficiency.

[shy wedge]

He is new so he most likely wont have it

[amber trench]

I don't think so

[shy wedge]

Ask your clan if they can give you one

[fair ibex]

as soon as you getr max rank in steel or arbi u can just trade with people, ive found people in clan and the trade channel here to swap mods with

[shy wedge]

Or if you have an R5 syndicate just trade with others

Could also just buy it with plat

[gaunt solstice]

im broke after getting titania

cost me 62 plats

[autumn sparrow]

should i toss nekros into the helminth or is he worth keeping

[trim bobcat]

Well, terrify is a good ability

[lofty garden]

he is an excellent mobile farming frame

just get another

[autumn sparrow]

so worth tossing a reactor into then

[lofty garden]

well, get his prime

[trim bobcat]

Get the prime, then you can toss nekros

[autumn sparrow]

i feel like im cheating when i buy primes

[trim bobcat]

Huh?

[autumn sparrow]

cuz i didnt actually do anthing besides open my bank account

[glad tusk]

Currently atlas is in prime resurgence if you're looking for a mobile farmer, granted you'll need his ore gaze augment

[strong remnant]

Guys how do i get behind that gate?

[trim bobcat]

Getting a better upgrade is cheating?

Especially when you are entering difficult content?

[glad tusk]

He feels like he's not earning the prime because he bought it

[autumn sparrow]

especailly if i dont have the non-prime version

[trim bobcat]

And what's wrong with it? Nekros Prime is in vault

[rich valley]

up the stairs, turn right, break the grate

[glad tusk]

Alot of primes are easier to get than their base forms...

[trim bobcat]

Only way is to buy his relics or parts

[shy wedge]

[Adaptation] and [Augur Reach] are flex slots. You can put [Equilibrium] if you are not gonna go with Nourish + Desecrate route which you most likely will not since you are new. All mods used are easy to grind so just upgrade as you progress.

[trim bobcat]

Isn't that DPS build?

[fair ibex]

somew people just like to impose thier own plat restrictions , game is up 2 u how you play it,

[glad tusk]

Considering the glut of relics, Hildryn and gauss are gonna remain incredibly easy primes despite already being vaulted

[shy wedge]

It's Tank + DPS + Farming build

optimized Nekros

[trim bobcat]

Isn't that too much?

[shy wedge]

eh not really all mods there are ezpz to get

[glad tusk]

Aside from health conversion

Since its a simaris mod

[shy wedge]

can just grind by yourself... the only boring grind there is [Health Conversion]

[trim bobcat]

Hmm, I might try this build but replace shadows with despoil

[shy wedge]

takes like 5 days to get [Health Conversion]

[trim bobcat]

How is it spawned?

[fair ibex]

sim standing is SO boring lol

[gaunt solstice]

okay is this fine now?

[trim bobcat]

And since I don't have summoner wrath, I will use brief respite

[shy wedge]

might as well just remove [Adaptation] or [Augur Reach] and put [Equilibrium]. [Despoil] is a waste of slot. The reason why I don't have either is because I use Nourish subsume + 1 Tauforged Purple Shard for energy economy.

[trim bobcat]

Despoil is a waste?

[shy wedge]

You have [Augur Reach]?

[trim bobcat]

Having it activated all time is really good for loot farming all day

[gaunt solstice]

nope

[shy wedge]

Ever since the Equilibrium changes, yes.

[trim bobcat]

What changes?

[shy wedge]

You can now pick up orbs even when full so you proc [Equilibrium] constantly

back then that's not possible so Despoil is BiS

[trim bobcat]

Doesn't despoil drain health?

[shy wedge]

You can get it on Cetus Bounties

[gaunt solstice]

what would i use it instead of?

[shy wedge]

Yes it is an energy economy augment. Instead of energy, you use health to activate Desecrate. But since energy economy is fixed due to [Equilibrium] changes, [Despoil] is no longer worth it to use.

[shy wedge]

Augur Reach over Streamline imo

[red holly]

ah yes, people trying to lowball me using warframe market as an argument as if I don't have it open

[trim bobcat]

When was it changed?

[red path]

point is that before (if I understand right) you could not pick up hp orbs if you health was full to restor energy with equilibrium

[trim bobcat]

Yes, he explained that

[shy wedge]

2023 I think?

[gaunt solstice]

lol damn

[trim bobcat]

Hmm. Let me check that build that was posted somewhere

[gaunt solstice]

hmm what focus school should i use? vazarin?

[gaunt solstice]

what were you selling tho?

[shy wedge]

Naramon buffs melee
Unairu removes enemy defenses
Madurai is damage
Zenurik is for energy
Vazarin is tanking

[red path]

so, with equilibrium you can easily have energy maxed for desecrate and ability spam, despoil just economy your energy but don't contribute to restoring it

[gaunt solstice]

ye i mainly use naramon but wouldnt zenurik(mistook it for vazarin) be better here?

[trim bobcat]

Oh, the build from Overframe did have despoil, but someone made the comment on Equilibrium changes

Apparently, they forgot to update it

Must have skipped that comment lol

[red path]

though imo despoil is more consistent in keeping desecrate active in high lvl missions

[red holly]

sevagoth prime chassis bp

[red path]

because you just die if your hp drop to the point where it deactivate

[trim bobcat]

You are better off selling the whole set

[coral frigate]

If i remember nekros always go afk when farm resources?

[shy wedge]

Yeah so just pick your poison for Nekros. Either you go [Equilibrium] route which is more friendly to newer players or go Nourish subsume + 1 Tauforged Violet Archon Shard to save a mod slot.

[trim bobcat]

It is easier to get sevagoth parts except the chassis

Even by random, it always be one of the relics you see during your raids

[red holly]

I've calcualted, the parts sold separately are more expensive than a set

[trim bobcat]

Well let say I just acquired Nekros Prime, but I haven't unlocked shards yet

[shy wedge]

Nekros is the active playstyle out of all the loot frames. Khora and Hydroid is passive playstyle.

[gaunt solstice]

well i got titania prime set cheaper that set price, 62 plats

[shy wedge]

Equilibrium ofc

[trim bobcat]

I should replace either Adaption or Augur Reach?

[red holly]

good for you

[shy wedge]

on my build, either remove [Adapation] because it really isn't that good on lower levels or remove [Augur Reach]

[red path]

only when in a squad with khora

[gaunt solstice]

i mean separately more cheaper

[red holly]

yeah, sometimes it's the other way around, sometimes it's not

[trim bobcat]

I think longer distances is still good for Nekros, so Adaption is to go

[gaunt solstice]

@shy wedge

[signal scarab]

How do I open The Circuit Steel Path?
I completed the normal Circuit and it's still locked

[gaunt solstice]

cool shii

[shy wedge]

personally I use Madurai

[red path]

what's really good on nekros is health conversion, together with arcane blessing it make him pretty tanky

[trim bobcat]

How to get the mod?

[red path]

simaris sell it

[trim bobcat]

No wait similaris

Oh good, I am halfway there

[red holly]

also his 4 augment

[gaunt solstice]

my doubt is isnt most focus basically for operator tho?

[trim bobcat]

Now, I gotta find someone to trade aug mods

[shy wedge]

5 days average of just scanning SP enemies in Plains of Eidolon

[red path]

I use nova subsume

[trim bobcat]

Good thing I am nearly maxed out on the left side

[shy wedge]

warframes also get buffs

[trim bobcat]

Yeah I am halfway there

[shy wedge]

you can read which ones give buffs to both warframe/operator

[red holly]

some work for just an operator, some only for warframe, some for both

[shy wedge]

^ this

[glossy mirage]

Anyone feeling like the frame power creep is real after last dev stream

[red holly]

power creep has always been a thing, nothing new

[trim bobcat]

Power creep is always there

[glossy mirage]

True but lately it just seems exponential

[trim bobcat]

So are other games

[shy wedge]

Power Creep is fake in PVE imo. People will play their favorite loadout regardless and Not everyone does level cap and even if we assume everyone does, all frames can do level cap.

[autumn sparrow]

especially mag

[red path]

they basically nerfed it right there when after rpg they got infinite ammo lokh surge, saying "we will remove this"

[glossy mirage]

Respectable

Follie is gonna change some farming metas tho

[south zenith]

question, why the hell is my helminth still locked

did i like

[shy wedge]

get the Helminth Segment from Son in Necralisk

[glossy violet]

set the record for the fastest nerf of a frame ever

[red holly]

nerfed even before release

[south zenith]

oh lmao that's easier than i thought

[glossy violet]

month before release

[red path]

I wish they make sp version of arbi, or enable sp mob spawn in it, i.e. max spawns even when not in full squad

[drifting cargo]

So I got a question that honestly, my friend brings a pretty good point on why he doesn’t to play the game.

Why is it that after hours upon hours of grinding for weapons and Warframes, after getting all the resources, after going through this whole process of just grinding for every single bit of materials and resources to get these weapons and Warframes. Why do we have to wait an entire 12, 24, or 3 days worth of waiting for the things to be done instead of just being able to get the stuff, right off the bat as soon as they’re done in the Foundry?

[glossy violet]

timegating

pay for impatience

smth smth player retention

[red path]

to make a time for something else, like touching grass

[shy wedge]

It is something that a lot of players complain about. But it is tied to getting money pretty much. If you don't want to grind and wait then you buy a fully built version of it or use platinum to speed up. DE, at the end of the day, still needs to earn money to keep Warframe, a live-service game, up.

[red holly]

I've used to not like the timegating but I really don't care about it anymore

it's like a tax for impatient people

[glad tusk]

4 follie disruption relic farm meta

[red path]

it was never a problem for me, I can find 100 other things to grind while my frame is cooking in the foundry oven, and I can just start weapon cooking in the evening go to sleep and in the morning I get them done

[shy wedge]

Yes I also got used to the waiting times mostly because I also play other games so I don't mind the wait.

[red path]

if I got that weapons right away, I would not go to sleep that easily

[shy wedge]

But it is definitely a valid reason to quit ngl. Casual people just wants to just hop on their gaming system and play.

[red holly]

it's the same reason why there are limits like syndicate standing, it's a tool to space the progress in time

[glossy violet]

age old adage: not for everyone

[red holly]

so you don't feel like you are losing on something like you have to play more or else you will be behind on all of the standing, the weapons you could be using once you craft them immediately and such

so you can do your daily stuff, then craft stuff, and then not worry that you are missing out on anything because you are now waiting for the resets and the new weapon to be crafted

that's also the same reason as for why the game tells you to take a break every 1 hour

[shy wedge]

It does?

[red holly]

yes, it does in chat

[shy wedge]

I never notice it

[coral frigate]

I see

[red path]

only when you in europe region

[red holly]

really?

I've had no idea

[shy wedge]

oh so similar to like how China and Korea gives notification about playtime

[red path]

yes, some people switch region in settings just to remove that reminder

[signal scarab]

What does Full Shield Gate immunity duration mean?

[red holly]

full shield gate immunity is based on how much shield you had

[drifting cargo]

But would it not be fair to still get that stuff right on the go, instead of having to wait?

As my friend put it, “it’s like you went and pulled for a character on a Gacha, but instead of getting that character, you have to wait 20 hours to play that character.”

[red holly]

before you lost it

[red path]

I don't mind though, I have been having this strange "mastery rank up ready" reminder for a year already I don't even notice it now

[signal scarab]

Wait like
When you lose your shield and briefly become invulnerable?

[shy wedge]

When your shield goes 0, you get a brief immunity to damage. Full Shield Gate Immunity Duration means how long that brief immunity is gonna be.

[signal scarab]

Oooh

Idk if 1.33s is worth x0.20 shield tho..
So eh

[shy wedge]

It is

Catalyzing Shields make it so easy to just spam your shield gating

[red holly]

Everyone has to wait so it is fair for everyone, in fact it would be less fair if no one had to wait because then people would feel like if they have less time than others they will be falling behind on progression than people who have more time

[red path]

if you mean cat shield mod, it gives that full duration regardless of how many shields you have iirc

[glad tusk]

If you can keep generating shields, yes

Yeah, you're get 1.33s immunity with 1 shield or 100

[signal scarab]

Hm alright

I have the companion that max restores my shield when I lose it I guess I don't need that maxed out anymore for 100%

[red path]

if you don't use zenurik and slot some augur mod or brief respite you basically reset this with each ability cast

[shy wedge]

Catalyzing Shields + Augur mod or Brief Respite = pretty much unkillable

unless you dont have energy

[red holly]

nowadays we have so many ways to get energy spamming abilities became much easier

[signal scarab]

So not fast deflection?
I'm still newish so limited on mods

[red holly]

there's an active way of shield gating, and then there's passive

[worthy comet]

Fast deflection is good for lazy gating, which is my kinda style

[red path]

zenurik give you free cast that will not restore your shields (and shieldgate) so can cause you to die

[signal scarab]

Twin

Alrighty then I'll get rid of armored agility then and use that combo

[shy wedge]

Fast Deflection is for passive shield gating

[signal scarab]

Insane 117 shields W

[gaunt solstice]

what weapon should i use for farming with nekros

[red holly]

ripkas with the amalgam mod

[gaunt solstice]

i heard desecrate works better when enemy are broken into multiple pieces

[red holly]

that's correct

[red path]

arcane aegis is true infinite shield gating

Has a hidden stat that sets shield recharge delay to 0 seconds while active. This causes the players shields to constantly regenerate, even when being damaged

[shy wedge]

high slash or ripkas

ripkas makes it so you dont need to worry about slash

[red path]

fyi, dorrclave has 100% slash

[red holly]

yes, it's 100% slash

[red path]

with gas and afflictions it does some insane damage

[glossy violet]

why gas?

[red path]

gas makes affliction arcane scale exponentially

[glossy violet]

oooo, i see

[red path]

because it's capped at 10 strongest stacks

[glossy violet]

oh yeah and dorrclave's light gives enemies lifted

[red path]

but you need other DoT status to make use of this scaling

[mellow adder]

hmm.

i wanna build inaros.

but, this is a completely new kind of build for me. he's 100% health no sheilds

[red path]

very good for hunter adrenaline/rage

[glossy violet]

but with gas i cant do the funny gore everyone D:

[red holly]

rage is all you need for energy, his 3 gives you armor, I suggest using arcane persistence so you don't get one shot

[red path]

3 also give you status immunity, specifically for magnetic status that can disable persistense

[autumn sparrow]

Does void strike in the madurai tree mean that i will use all of my energy whever i cast my 1 as a warframe, or is it just operator

[red holly]

I should be using hunter adrenaline to be honest,

[red path]

it's an operator ability, and uses operator energy

[autumn sparrow]

ty

[mellow adder]

rage? not blind rage?

[red holly]

rage

or hunter adrenaline

same effect

[red path]

rage convert hp damage to energy, hunter adrenaline too and has better stats

[mellow adder]

so hunter adrenline is technically better?

[red holly]

not technically, it is just better

[red path]

there is a now forgotten strat where you use parasitic armor to remove shields to proc this mod for energy regen

[mellow adder]

alr. hunter adrenline is what ill pick up then

[red path]

rage convert 40%, adrenaline 45%

[red holly]

but rage has less capacity at max level

[red path]

and you need ghoul event active to farm hunter mods

[red holly]

so not fully leveled hunter adrenaline at the same cost as rage gives you less, but if you also want that passive, hunter adrenaline is better

because then the difference in the % of damage dealt to health to energy is 10% points

[timber violet]

Wich frame can i use to "cheese" the mirror defense with eroding senses this week eda? Been doing it vrazy often but its literally impossible for me to do with all modifiers.
So ill just change the frame and loose out on the vosfor.
Like Does citrine dr reduce the damage of eroding senses?
Or if i use mag to give it shield, will eroding senses take the shield instead or keep hurting the health of it?

[umbral fulcrum]

wisp maybe :-?

or trin :-?

[gaunt solstice]

which amalgam?

[red holly]

the exclusive ripkas amalgam mod

[timber violet]

The thing is i cant really test. Id have to play 2 gamemodes eda before verytime xd

[red holly]

@timber violet https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Defense#Healing_Interactions_With_Defense_Objects

this should help

[hollow cradle]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Amalgam_Ripkas_True_Steel

[timber violet]

Goat

[mellow adder]

so. arcane persistence is a must on inaros.
what about the second arcane?

circumvent?
Bellicose?

prob bellicose.
circumvent would give more survivabilty, but it would also kinda lock out using archon intensify if i roll past an exiumus

[red holly]

I use bellicose because on Inaros it's an easy +72% ability strength

not for his abilities, because his abilities don't really need that much strength, but for the subsume

you can use arcane battery if you want more energy

[floral osprey]

you can also use arcane grace if you dont feel like using his tornado but i think overall his 2nd arcane is up to whatever you want on the build

hell you could run the one arcane that makes you immune to the magnetic status if you really wanted

[red holly]

you could even run arcane blessing if you want to have funny amounts of health

[lofty garden]

ugh, 6k kuva two days in a row

[grand compass]

What's the best way to get some Argon Crystals? Ik the void iirc, but is there a specific mission?

[lofty garden]

crate breaker using a prime frame like xaku or limbo

[floral osprey]

tbh nelssing and the magnetic arcanes are probably on the lower end because im prty sure inaros' 3 gives him status imunity and if you have persistence and like basically any reasonable amount of healing your basically immortal

[restive pumice]

Do the circuit 20,000 kuva. To the level 5 and you good.

[glossy violet]

i like turning my brain off and running Mot for a bit

[hollow cradle]

[Argon Crystal] - enter the Void from Phobos, do exterminate and capture. Kill everything, break all containers, is random drop; otherwise get a group for Mot.

[red path]

or void fissure if on capture or exterminate node in void

[lofty garden]

farm marduk for the sabotage caches

i don’t need more kuva

[grand compass]

ty

[lofty garden]

might as well start trying to farm Xiphos avionics and collect crystals at the same time

[restive pumice]

🥀

[lofty garden]

this is after two resets...

[red path]

when boredom kill sanity

[grand compass]

tf

[glossy violet]

ur brain...

xiphos will come home soon

[lofty garden]

Soon...

[autumn sparrow]

why are hijack missions athing

[lofty garden]

she tells you during the missions

grineer is to get the toxic power core off the planet. corpus we are just stealing something I think

[normal stirrup]

So hildryn can flex having 10k shields

[floral osprey]

to give you a reason to stand on top of the objective for like 3 minutes

[lofty garden]

hildryn flexing is valid 🙂

[autumn sparrow]

and the core is just bugged

this gamemode is NOT ragebait

[high coral]

How do you unlock archon shard segment

[lofty garden]

veilbreaker quest

[floral osprey]

^

you get it as a reward upon completion

[restive pumice]

After the new war and veilbreaker.

[glossy violet]

figured out the hard way that if u have like 2 shields it wont take health and will just so patiently wait for you to recharge shieldw

[lofty garden]

unless you are inaros or nidus, or it’s nightmare and no shield mode

[normal stirrup]

Yeah it takes health if you don't have shields

[lofty garden]

and I guess kullervo now?

[normal stirrup]

I wonder if it works on anyone with the arcane persistence

[lofty garden]

but he has all that overguard so I forget he has no shields

[glossy violet]

i ran grendel and it was like (and took as long as) pulling teeth

65 shields 😭

[lofty garden]

hildryn is right there…

[candid tendon]

Is the paracesis worth building 🤔🤔🤔

[silk arch]

Sacrificial or Galvanized Steel ?

[lofty garden]

it is 4k mr

[candid tendon]

Not even sure I just did that mission and I have it but building it seems like it’s going to take a min

[red holly]

it's because it was introduced with tethra's doom event

and then the game mode was made permament

[normal stirrup]

Not that important early but when you're grinding for MR 30 it's pretty good

Because it can go up to 40

With formas

[candid tendon]

Say less because I’ve been obsessed with trying to kill those eidolon bosses for the shards

[lofty garden]

if you are 25 or older they give you a rental paracesis for the new war

[normal stirrup]

The 1000 ducats part is the most annoying honestly

[glossy violet]

do you think theyll return my deposit if i bring it back full of sentient gunk

[lofty garden]

Only if your name is Cole Trickle

[normal stirrup]

Too many baro mods to skip for one meh weapon

[candid tendon]

That was the easiest part for me. It’s the shards that’s been having me bang my head against the wall

[red holly]

it's not meh, it's actually good

[normal stirrup]

How

[lofty garden]

The last time I used it, by the time I made an attack, the mission was over.

[normal stirrup]

How do you make it good

[red holly]

heavy attack build

but if you want to do that you might as well also use gram prime

[normal stirrup]

Every build heavy attacks

[red holly]

depends on your expectations

[candid tendon]

I thought it would have been a good sword for Excalibur umbra but now I’m second guessing it

[red holly]

or tenet exec

[mellow adder]

what subsume?

[glad tusk]

Umbra already has a good sword

Its called exalted blade

[normal stirrup]

Yeah that's an actual good weapon

[lofty garden]

Yeah, Umbra's 4 is his good sword.

[candid tendon]

My bad “another” good sword

[glad tusk]

Skiajati

[red holly]

whatever you want, I use nourish to buff swarm kavats and my pet

[glad tusk]

Light attack crit status hybrid

[lofty garden]

okina prime incarnon for the movement speed

[candid tendon]

I still have it on now. I just thought it would be better for the new war mission but if I don’t need it I’m about to start it now

[mellow adder]

fair enough. what do you subsume over?

[red holly]

his 2

if you don't care about swarm kavats, you can subsume his 1 or 4, I'd say there is no one way to play Inaros

[floral osprey]

keep the 4 cuz its spreading corrosive

[glad tusk]

Just go play the new war

[red holly]

yeah, 4 is good

[glad tusk]

You'll realize why it doesn't matter

[floral osprey]

standstorm is your healing and 3 is status immunity

[red holly]

but if you want to use precision intensify then you can subsume 4, but I subsume 2

[floral osprey]

1 kidna mid doesnt do a whole lot

[red holly]

and heal with finishers

you use 1 with the augment to get more swarm kavats

and also to open up enemies for finishers which also heal you

[mellow adder]

it's a quick heal.

[floral osprey]

if your that close to enemies you can click sandnado and heal as well

plus you go invulnerable while doing it

[mellow adder]

sandnado is a long animation and effect tho.
you can't exactly pop it and then keep doing other stuff.

you pop it and are now doing that for it's duration

[timber violet]

Is mirror defense by any chance 8 round this week?

[mellow adder]

whats the name of the augment?

[timber violet]

Like a extreme modifier thats not showing?????

[red holly]

dessication's curse

People say Inaros is weak. maybe. But I like having an easy way to have an army of pets

[timber violet]

I LOVE forcing ppl to play the mode when doing stuff like alchemy with him. I have max range ln him so i just passive agrassively take all enemies hostage and diliver them infront of the crucible xd

[signal scarab]

Catalyzing shield is terrible?? I'm not even getting 1 second of invulnerability let alone 1.33s
I'm so confused

I was doing way better with just half decent shields;-;

[red holly]

you sure are

[signal scarab]

I timed it sir

[red holly]

me too

[signal scarab]

How did you time the dmg immunity I'm getting?

[red holly]

but don't count seconds, count frames

[signal scarab]

Idk it just doesn't seem that good

[red holly]

80 frames of invul @ 60 FPS

[floral osprey]

im like 99% sure you can cancle it at anypoint during the nado + the animation doesnt rlly mater all that much incomparison to some other long animation abilities expressly because you can both move and are invincible during it

[glossy violet]

i NEED you for-hire every time alchemy pops up

on my knees 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

i need you as on call crew NOW im sick of pub alchemy

[shy wedge]

its definitely 1.33s

[glossy violet]

iirc you kinda just fall out of the nado in a second, though its been a hot while since i played inaros

[hollow cradle]

Hildryn is good for solo alchemy

[red holly]

I didn't believe it 100% until I've checked it by recording and counting the frames of invulnerability

[shy wedge]

But Catalyzing Shields alone is not enough. You combo it with any Augur Mods or Brief Respite. Infinite active shield gating.

[floral osprey]

idk this is with 155 duration

[signal scarab]

Idk what those are

[glossy violet]

oh no yeah i meant on deactivating the ability

[shy wedge]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Augur_Set

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Brief_Respite

[glossy violet]

its a valid stop and go ability since you enter and exit nadomode quick

[signal scarab]

Oh I thought they'd be decent
Damn

[mellow adder]

fair enough.

maybe ill do a build with his 1 subsumed off for nourish later

[shy wedge]

There are 6 Augur Mods and Brief Respite is Aura

you use them to refresh your shield gate

[signal scarab]

I don't even know what half of the words to obtain brief respite mean😭

And a 6 set is absurd just to use 1 mod

[shy wedge]

you don't need all 6

you just need 1

[floral osprey]

basically its just doing the titania quest stuff over and over untill you get it / cave and buy it off the market

[shy wedge]

you can even put it on your Companion if you are using a Sentinel with Pistol type weapon

or just your secondary if you prefer that

[gentle creek]

When are we going to have squad in simulacrum?

[shy wedge]

you only die if you don't use an ability to refresh skill or just no energy

[past drum]

everyoooooooob'

[signal scarab]

???
I thought you need the entire number of whatever number the set is to get that bottom effect
Example strain consume or Jugulus Barbs

[past drum]

twitch dropsssssssssss

goooooooo noooooooooooooooooow

https://www.twitch.tv/vvhite_angel

[glossy violet]

more set mods just mean stronger bonus

40% is base with one mod

[floral osprey]

nope all those are a set bonus and you just get a stronger version of the bonus the more of the mods you have equiped

[shy wedge]

no? the boxes will just increase the %

[signal scarab]

I thought that only applied for Umbra stuff that specifically says "enhance mods" ?

[shy wedge]

but for Catalyzing Shields you don't really need it

[signal scarab]

I see..

[shy wedge]

you just need to regen 1 shield

[glossy violet]

umbra is a type of set mod

[shy wedge]

and you can spam that 1.33s invul

[signal scarab]

So you'd want efficiency for a spammable ability too

[shy wedge]

depends on the energy economy of the frame you are using

[autumn sparrow]

is kuva fortress required to be completed for steel path?

[signal scarab]

I don't have primes yet
My strongest is Uriel
Nokko is sooooo squishy..

[rugged glen]

Yo im genuinely confused how are u supposed to get r5 intrinsics in ur railjack for the kuva lich cuz i cant seem to be able to railjack by my self

[signal scarab]

Nokko also always runs out of energy when Uriel doesn't
Idk it's weird

Nokko literally has an energy Regen ability yet runs out faster

[floral osprey]

use your 2 as nokko and then try to keep your 4 bouncing between the 2 energy mushrooms

[signal scarab]

I do exactly that

[shy wedge]

did you already do the railjack quest? you get intrinsics by pretty much just doing any missions

[rugged glen]

Im struggling to do the missions by my self my ship keeps on blowing

[shy wedge]

probably meh build cause most Nokko builds I have seen have negative efficiency

[rugged glen]

And i run out of the thing for the omni or whatever

[last pagoda]

Forge at the back of railjack let's you refill omni and repair ship in mission

[floral osprey]

do you run flow and a bunch of ability strength?

[shy wedge]

you go to the forge and get your charges back

[signal scarab]

Yeah originally I was using blind rage on Nokko and figured out that doesn't work nearly as well as it does for Uriel
I tried getting more efficiency and I got like 70-80% no Archon mods and it still sucked

[rugged glen]

Yo where has this info been all the time😂

[signal scarab]

Mhm I made Nokko super ability central with mods

[glossy violet]

rj is badly explained

[shy wedge]

looks like just low strength%

[rugged glen]

Do i need rank 5 on all of the things or jst one

[signal scarab]

Is Uriel just objectively that much better than any non prime frame?

[shy wedge]

you want as much strength as possible since Brightbonnet energy scales with it

[chilly jungle]

didn't they say they where adding more railjack stuff to tau system update

[shy wedge]

300% strength is like 45 energy per bounce

[signal scarab]

Hmm I see

[signal scarab]

God I hope not

Hate railjack stuff..

[floral osprey]

i mean hes a new frame with a lot of stuff, not the best but by no means the worst. gulfagor i think with a bunch of strength just spews out a ton of orbs which with equilibrium or equlibrium shards just gets translated to more energy

[chilly jungle]

not even that hard 😭

[cosmic kindle]

Wait just joining chat is there a secret to leveling up a mod a certian level to not lose as much from corrupted mod?

[lofty garden]

nah, your negatives go up as the positives go up

[past drum]

twitch drops everyone

[last pagoda]

Just balance the negatives with other mods

[past drum]

freeee stuff

[lofty garden]

But not all negatives matter.

[floral osprey]

not really a secret tbh. you can if your trying to hyper optimise breakpoints but overall its not that end of the world

[golden nebula]

Gostaria de ter as coisas no dojo na própria orbital ou mecanica de invasão de clã pra poder pegar recurso de outros clã ou coisa nova na railjack ou construir novas naves tipo tem missão na railjack que podemos pegar outras naves ou pilotar outras naves

[signal scarab]

Idk Uriel was my starter cause Excalibur was so boring and I haven't found a better non prime frame yet
Uriel kinda bonkers

I'm tryna get Gauss
I've heard a lot about him but mainly just speed

[shy wedge]

prime and non prime isnt that big of difference

[signal scarab]

?

[last pagoda]

Primes just have polarities and some higher stats and capacity

[red holly]

just a little bit better stats and a built in additional polarity slot

[signal scarab]

People act like prime and non prime is the difference between 1 and 2,000

[signal scarab]

That's..pretty good tho?

[floral osprey]

its kinda to each thier own as for which frame people like, i like wisp, chroma, atlas, nova, and mirage off the top of my head and would probably say they are all better than uriel but they all kinda do different things as well

[last pagoda]

Primes are easier for buildcrafting less forma etc

[signal scarab]

While we're on that topic
I got a prime weapon with 0 polarities¿?
I was told they have more natural polarities and I was excited and then..none

[marsh linden]

only in regards to looks

[signal scarab]

My first prime*

[marsh linden]

stats wise prime frames dont have much difference

[red holly]

we are talking about warframe primes not weapons

[marsh linden]

now prime weapons have difference

[red holly]

prime weapons have a significant difference

[marsh linden]

yeah

[signal scarab]

I'm asking about weapons since I just discovered frames it's not that big of a deal

[oblique sequoia]

Are you referring to the Braton Prime? Yeah that thing has 0 polarities 😭

[shy wedge]

you can just use non prime frames and it will be fine

[last pagoda]

Prime weapons can be night and day to their counterparts on some guns

[signal scarab]

No not that thingy

[floral osprey]

i think theres probably a few cases where the prime stats like actually help with break points for stuff like archon shards and mby persistence but like overall most base frames can do the exact same as their prime frames 99% of the time

[signal scarab]

I was suggested Wisp Prime and I was excited cause I heard she is extremely good and I could use the hot proto skin

[shy wedge]

she is good

[red holly]

she is just reliable and a good all rounder

[oblique sequoia]

Oh yeah, Wisp Prime is great

[signal scarab]

Specifically prime?
Or is regular Wisp not much different too

[shy wedge]

but for frames you can just get away with using non prime

[oblique sequoia]

No, regular Wisp is great, too

[shy wedge]

its not a huge difference

[floral osprey]

yessssss. you should put like 600% ability strength and then make other people suffer.

[signal scarab]

I see..

So focus on prime weapons then?

[floral osprey]

only difference it would make is probably for max energy and if your using arcane belicose mby

[red holly]

yes

[floral osprey]

nvm exact same health and energy XD

[slender sparrow]

Nah nah, look what DE has to say about that:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159566087059419156/1475298124422709512/image.png?ex=69a43a32&is=69a2e8b2&hm=44ef51451075d82e09198459e88a4b61b16c1c0d2ef10e6084db0374c3536b6b&

[shy wedge]

Warframes = you can just use regular versions
Weapons = you always go for prime versions

[signal scarab]

I got Prime orthos that's the one without polarities it was so disappointing
I have the Trumna prime ready to go I just need more ranks

[vale falcon]

There's a select few weapons which don't get extra polarities but the stat difference between normal and prime for those weapons is so large that there is no argument the prime is just better

For warframes tho don't even worry about not having the prime unless you're doing ultra tryhardy stuff

[signal scarab]

Ah I see

[red holly]

best? yes? much better? not really

[glossy violet]

varzia propaganda. she wrote it herself. she's got a bachelors in marketing

[oblique sequoia]

Orthos Prime has some good stats tho. I've invested in mine and I like using it

[coarse basin]

most primes are pretty meh tho

without incarnon

[floral osprey]

orthos prime is a fun stat stick you beat people to death with

[shy wedge]

I mean what do you want for DE to put there? Of course they will hype Prime versions to earn money lol.

[chilly jungle]

propaganda

[red holly]

not talking about power or viability but the power difference between the regular and prime version of weapons

[slender sparrow]

I thought this was the best Free to Play game out of all?!
How can there be money involved?

[red holly]

but yeah, not every prime weapon will be strong

[signal scarab]

I just wanna know what to do man I'm still struggling with 80+
I was suggested by so many people to go for prime frame and now I discover I be wasting my time fr Lol

[shy wedge]

ok you gotta be ragebaiting hahaha

[oblique sequoia]

It's 3am over here so I'm having trouble discerning if this is a joke

[coarse basin]

not about frames
modding is key

[slender sparrow]

Yeah, was a joke.
Back to normal.

[oblique sequoia]

Thank you hahahaha. Back to sleep for me then

[floral osprey]

would like to add that especially early on (like pre-new war atleast) if you have anyamount of stuff invested into a weapon odds are its probably gona be more than good eonough and you dont need to swap to a prime weapon as soon as you get one or like youll explode or smthn

[slender sparrow]

DE wasn't joking tho, go Prime or LOSE

[shy wedge]

It is not a waste. More like you can just use non prime warframes and you'll be fine. If you don't want to spend platinum just do that.

[red holly]

I remember soma prime being one of my first strong primaries, it was awesome

[signal scarab]

Idk why people say exclusively mods when like
You need base stats for mods to multiply off of and polarities to do more and better mods;-;
I have mods that's not the issue
I've been doing nothing but getting mods cause that's all people say and it's lowkey getting annoying cause I'm not asking about mods ;-;

[last pagoda]

Really only worry about prime frame if you really like that frame otherwise its not really worth unless you wanna be a collector

[coarse basin]

the health stat of a frame being 100 more on a prime is NOT gonna save you

[signal scarab]

Collector? You have to be a collector to rank up

[coarse basin]

70% of frames live off shield gating anyways

[shy wedge]

Personally, if the frame already has a Prime version I use the Prime. If the frame does not have a Prime variant yet, I check if the frame is getting a Prime soon. If yes, I just wait and if not I just build it.

[oblique sequoia]

Some Prime weapons have passives that the regular versions don't have so it's always worth checking out the weapons more (Daikyu Prime passive says hi)

[floral osprey]

if your struggling with enemies getting prime frames can be more of a way of getting new frames that you dont have which can help, but tbh the thing that makes or breaks everything is the mods and arcanes. you can make objectively terrible weapons do millions of damage with the right mods and mby some frame stuff

[last pagoda]

No as in collecting all the primes like me being a psycho. Any frame i get i want the prime

[coarse basin]

it is all about mods

[floral osprey]

and you can make just about any frame survive and do damage with the right mods and arcanes

[shy wedge]

I mean you everyone will eventually do this anyways

[marsh linden]

because it is

[shy wedge]

its not really a psycho move

[red holly]

people are using newly released frames that don't have a prime version and do well

[shy wedge]

unless they dont care about MR

[red holly]

because a frame being prime or not doesn't change much - it's how you mod them

[shy wedge]

yeah its just build diff most of the time

[coarse basin]

sounds like you don’t have the mods, forma, or potatoes rather than the frames or weapons

[signal scarab]

Again
I have mods and I'm working on Arcanes
I'm not asking about mods;-;
I can never find a clear answer on good weapons to aim for
I was told Acceltra was incredible by multiple people and then when I invest in it and come back everyone is like eh it's fine ish it gets the job done

[marsh linden]

because weapons are preference

[coarse basin]

acceltra gets overrated

[shy wedge]

Weapons and Frames are subjective

[coarse basin]

tbh

[manic vigil]

Does anyone main cyte-09?

[last pagoda]

Weapons come down to preference but there's some that are better than most

[coarse basin]

I don’t main things but I can def help with cyte what’s up

[shy wedge]

there are a lot of good weapons and all frames are good when built so its just preference

[signal scarab]

That's what I'm asking about

[marsh linden]

mods are what matters so weapons are down to preference, that is why you cant get a "clear answer"

[floral osprey]

if your wanting the good weapons to put the mods on a very simple solution is
does it have an incarnon? > if yes > its probably good

the xoris is probably one of the best glaives tied with falcor and coda pathocyst

theres definetly some other melees that are good as well ofc but glaives are kinda just super cracked at the videogame

[manic vigil]

Do u got pet builds for him?

[coarse basin]

Depends

what kinda gameplay

neutralizer?

[manic vigil]

Overall

[manic vigil]

Ye

[last pagoda]

Some weapons don't really matter tho unless you get their incarnon so it comes down to what weapon types you want to use

[signal scarab]

They are? Hm interesting
I hear a lot about Incarnons but when I check in game I only see the 5 like bluey-black weapons for sale for plat

[shy wedge]

I love Nataruk but some people don't like the Perfect Shot mechanic and prefer more braindead stuff like Torid

It's just preference even when using meta weapons

[red holly]

you can buy those, but you can also earn them for free

[last pagoda]

Inarnon market rotates

[red holly]

either from vendors or the circuit in duviri

[floral osprey]

out side of incarnons most adversary weapons are prty good but stuff like the arcaplasmor cedo/cedo prime, bubonico (soon coda bubonico), bassocyst, coda sporothrix are some good non incarnon weapons

[coarse basin]

for neutralizer I use ninjase’s cyte build

https://overframe.gg/build/770195/cyte-09/ghost-recon-cyte-neutralizer-weapon-platform-sp-general-use-and-endurance/

[shy wedge]

Duviri Circuit Steel Path you can earn Incarnon Adaptors but each week the choices will change. Cavalero blueprints does not need incarnon adapters so you can work towards the evolution immediately after crafting.

[coarse basin]

https://overframe.gg/build/770440/neutralizer/neutralizer-sniper-single-target-raw-damage-one-shot-levelcap/

[red holly]

as much as I like coda sporothrix, it's one of the weapons that requires a specific build

[manic vigil]

I

[red holly]

it is strong, but as long as you have a source of flat crit chance bonus

[shy wedge]

You have a lot of weapon choices: Incarnon weapons, Kuva/Tenet/Coda Weapons, and certain weapons outside of those like Ignis Wraith, Xoris, Nataruk, Grimoire, etc.

[floral osprey]

you can get them from the steel path circuit in divuri there is 5 a week with a total of i think 7 or 8 weeks. you can get some which are the weapons that calvelero sells, you can get one from acrithis (thalys) and i think you can get some from another place that escapes me

[coarse basin]

this neutralizer build is for heavy damage shots, there’s another for trash clearing

[manic vigil]

Mainly tryna js clear rooms

[shy wedge]

upcoming Coda Bubonico will clear 🗣️ 🔥

[coarse basin]

gas or elec build

[floral osprey]

nah you dont have to, it def helps if you have a flat crit source but you can also just do a ton of elements and have fun

[red holly]

sure, that can work, I just like my super big gas procs

[floral osprey]

i just like holding down the fire button and watching everything get a ton of statuses and then die

[manic vigil]

Gas

[red holly]

I prefer playing harrow, getting one weakpoint hit and see everyone die to gas clouds

but if it works for you, then I am not going to argue

[floral osprey]

tbh i just dont play harrow that much

[red holly]

me neither, but when I do, I like to use coda sporo

[coarse basin]

https://overframe.gg/build/771250/neutralizer/gas-neturalizer-meme/

[little sonnet]

c.sporothrix is one of my favourite weapons for oraxia but for some reason it staggers me every time i shoot right after casting widow's brood

it's really annoying

[signal scarab]

Is there any weapon that isn't terrible that like.. chain damages?
Not specifically this but like a "chain lightning" type effect?
I'm decent at aiming but I don't want to be aiming at every single enemy I love aoe effects

But not explosive type thing, I still want to aim to some degree
Just like, when I hit an enemy it chains dmg to other enemies nearby

[red holly]

like you hit one enemy and it kills everyone around? kuva nukor

or torid incarnon, or tenet glaxion

[signal scarab]

Hmm alrighty

[floral osprey]

torid incarnon, amprex is prty aight from what ive heared but no idea, and tenent galaxion, nukors, cycron

[signal scarab]

Are any of those fast firing? I tried out the Torid(not incarnon form not sure how different that makes it) and it was a slow single shot but I see the vision sorta

[floral osprey]

boar incarnon as well

[floral osprey]

torid incarnon 180s the weapon

[manic vigil]

Alr wut pets do u recommend

[red holly]

torid without incarnon is crap

[signal scarab]

Ah okay lmao

[red holly]

with incarnon it's one of the best weapons

[little sonnet]

vadarya prime has a different kind of "chain lighting" from those ones but its also pretty cool

[signal scarab]

Incarnon is like
A thing I do to the weapon? Or a separate weapon
Like should I keep the weapon until I get this incarnon thing or is it a separate weapon I make

[red holly]

keep torid, it's an adapter you install and allows you to change forms

[rugged shore]

Think of it like an orokin catalyst, its a permanent upgrade

[signal scarab]

Ahhh okay makes sense

[last pagoda]

Its an attachment to the weapon that unlocks an alternate firing mode

[lofty garden]

nah, not permanent

[red holly]

from a grenade launcher to a beam weapons that chains

[little sonnet]

& atomos is good as a standard chain-beam type thing, esp with incarnon upgrade (the incarnon form doesn't do that but it gives stat boosts that make the base form way better)

[signal scarab]

Oooh interesting

[floral osprey]

heres a super quick thing, no external buffs or pre armour striping or anything

[signal scarab]

Oh really? I do see a lot of people with Atomos

[last pagoda]

I think furis incarnon makes it a flamethrower

[lofty garden]

Incarnon adapters are obtained in The Circuit, Steel Path mode. They can be applied to weapons. They can also be uninstalled, so you can get one, put it on a regular weapon, then if/when you obtain a better version of that weapon, you can remove it and then install it on the newer weapon.

[shy wedge]

since Torid and Dual Tox incarnon adapters is gonna be a long wait since they just ended like 2 weeks ago, I recommend Kuva Nukor or Ocucor.

[floral osprey]

it does, its super fun and cool and good

[signal scarab]

Yessss that's what I'm talking about :0

[little sonnet]

i think atomos is prob the earliest chain-beam you get access to, it starts to fall off a bit eventually but once you get the incarnon upgrade it becomes really good again

[signal scarab]

Hmm Kuva Nukor multiple people have suggested now so I'll check that out
Even though Kuva missions are confusing I'll check Google out

[red holly]

kuva nukor is awesome

[last pagoda]

For the kuva nukor you need a lich that has it

[signal scarab]

It chain beams? I saw it was a beam weapon and stayed away cause the last 2-3 beams I've tried were terrible

Good to know I can make it rn

[signal scarab]

Oooh hell yeah

[floral osprey]

its not that hard to do if you run cassini and have a vuage idea of what to do since its a prty quick mission and theres enough spawns on base path if you can do sp to get a litch and its easier if you can do sp but doesnt make much of a difference

[signal scarab]

I still haven't done my Kuva leader controlled planet from when I was rank 2 cause Kuva missions confuse me

Like the Paragon stuff and allat

Parazon*
Autocorrect

Like I was trying to do one and it didn't let me touch the harvester/red braids in my frame or in the operator

I'll just check YouTube on how to do them properly tho cause that weapon seems cool

[coarse basin]

I don’t think you can spawn liches at mr 2

[last pagoda]

For kuva siphons you have to wait for a tendrils to rise sucking up kuva shoot the black cloud as operator b4 it get to siphon and the breaks a braid

[floral osprey]

might just be my build being bad but once i get my galv mods and a few of the arcane stacks up to begin with it does prty good

[shy wedge]

the only annoying part is getting the Requiem Mods ngl

[floral osprey]

(tenent galaxion)

[signal scarab]

Idk when exactly it was I was overexaggerating
I was gonna say Cindi Fupi but idk if that's her name or the name of the event

[last pagoda]

Liches all have different names used to be funnier

[coarse basin]

glaxion is great

[signal scarab]

That does more than my weapon with Galv mods and a bunch of other stuff wth-

Wdym you don't have Galv mods on it

[coarse basin]

no boar or torid but great primary nevertheless

[last pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-theres-always-a-bigger-fish-the-phantom-menace-gif-15951236

[floral osprey]

heres the boar prime incarnon as well

[signal scarab]

Oooh

Is the Trumna prime decent? Like I said I have that 100% ready to craft I just need to rank up some more to make it

[coarse basin]

try it with corro blast

[last pagoda]

Its a fun gun

[coarse basin]

it'll work better

for crowd clearing

[coarse basin]

yeah

its good

[signal scarab]

OH WAIT
I kept being confused why I never have Argon crystals I forgot about the lame decay mechanic

Sigh

[floral osprey]

heres some sporothrix (no flat cc buffs)

with smthn like harrow this instantly shoots up to like 300k-1million damage atleast

[unique tartan]

So am I the only one who prioritizes killing Marrowticks to get grapple points to get damage to help fight the Hunhullus or is it just me

[lofty garden]

In SP? Probably not

[cerulean cedar]

A Bee frame doesn't sound so bad at all

[coarse basin]

hell yeah

[last pagoda]

I'm flying around as uriel during that fight so I dont think about the grapple

[red holly]

Looks decent for a no flat cc build

but even with no flat cc, I prefer my gas build

maybe it's just because it feels like my build

[obsidian ridge]

Ooh?

[red path]

or just a skin for titania

[cerulean cedar]

Why a skin.?

[red holly]

or Inaros sending bees after enemies instead of scarabs and instead of covering them in sand he covers them in honey

[pseudo phoenix]

Weird question but is descendia a decent place to level frames rn?
If so, Steel path or normal version?

[cerulean cedar]

Waste so much potential for a silly skin?

[coarse basin]

idk bee frame kinda just sounds like reskinned titania

[red holly]

titania does sting like a bee

[vale falcon]

Wouldn't be the best, would just suggest the plains of Eidolon eximus sky sniping method instead, be done in faster than even sanctuary for weapons

[coarse basin]

like a really powerful bee

with dual submachine guns for stingers

[red holly]

and razorflies can become bees

bee deluxe skin?

I know she already got 2

[red path]

because it's easier than to think about a new flying frame? less effort same result (people spending plat on new fashionframe)

[cerulean cedar]

Titania can't be the only one that can fly

There could also involve a super cool lore for it

[pseudo phoenix]

Generally I’d agree but right now the first infernum this week is amazing for xp farming because it spawns so many eximus units

[red path]

there is other "flying" frames, but why make one that fly the same way, can be just a skin at this point

[cerulean cedar]

Sometimes I wonder if DE can use fan concepts for their future Warframes

[red path]

I think there was a frame like that already?

[red holly]

zephyr

as far as I know

[vale falcon]

Xaku was as well

[glossy violet]

yareli iirc

[cerulean cedar]

Like him

[red path]

Yareli was chosen from community artist Matias Tapia's Warframe concepts art portfolio, specifically the Magical Girl Warframe Series.

[signal scarab]

Wait wait wait
Does mastery gained on a weapon through the Circuit actually count towards your player rank/the weapons actual rank when you use it in the base game? Even if you don't have the weapon?

[vale falcon]

Only if you own the weapon

[red path]

Zephyr was confirmed to be originated as a fan-made concept in Devstream 22 by user Volkovyi (also known as Liger Inuzuka). Digital Extremes did not specify who followed up the idea, but it was mentioned as being conceptualized by the community.

[glossy violet]

liger does it again

[signal scarab]

That can't be the case though
I had a full set of unowned weapons/frame
I left the circuit and I got enough to mastery rank up

[cerulean cedar]

Do you guys think that the dinosaur frame might get a chance?

[karmic lily]

thanks for recommending me tenet envoy it's very fun

[red path]

best gun of 2025

and aim-to-homing is pretty fun

[vale falcon]

That bug is back?
Damn

[red path]

can hit some moving targets even if you miss initial shot

[coarse basin]

in a couple years

[umbral fulcrum]

This hurts T_T I turned 50 copies of hammer shot into endo a few weeks ago iwannadie

[coarse basin]

you what

[red path]

[coarse basin]

nonono it gets a chance in a couple years

[red holly]

we did get a few animal themed warframes so maybe, but I wouldn't have high hopes

[signal scarab]

I mean I ain't complaining

[coarse basin]

warframes have to thematically fit their updates

[signal scarab]

I was in steel path Circuit not regular
If that makes a difference?

[umbral fulcrum]

this looks hawt! Gojira frame! YEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHH

[red path]

hammer shot is one of most expensive and pretty popular mod

[lavish pebble]

Hammer Shot is a 1% drop chance from Nightmare missions.
How did you even have that many?

[vale falcon]

Yeah I wouldn't complain, lemme guess a host migration occurred
What you guessed wouldn't make a difference

[cerulean cedar]

That's the point..

[coarse basin]

and I dont really see any point in the foreseeable future where we'd have a dinosaur update

[red holly]

how would a dinosaur warframe even be introduced so it would even make sense

[signal scarab]

A host migration did not happen no

[glossy violet]

update 90.1: the paleolithic

[cerulean cedar]

I mean, we got a spider

So.. can't be that hard

[glossy violet]

oraxia makes sense in the context

[umbral fulcrum]

I was lookin for a diff mod back in the day and I think it used to have a diffrent drop location :-? + been playin for 14 years

[red path]

yeah, I've been playing for 2 years and barely got 4

[red holly]

well, spider is a rather common animal, wolf as well, bird as well, monkey as well, but dinosaur?

[red path]

we have chroma though

[cerulean cedar]

They're also animals

[coarse basin]

people might not even know about dinosaurs in the orokin empire

[cerulean cedar]

I mean chroma is a dragon

[signal scarab]

Bro forgot dinosaurs ruled the planet and there's countless in the ground

[vale falcon]

Ok now I'm confused, host migrations are what break duviri in 2, I've had voidgel orbs drop after host migrations
Idk how you'd replicate that one

[cerulean cedar]

Ah yes, the orokin knew what a dragon was but didn't about dinosaurs

[coarse basin]

that kinda makes sense actually

[red holly]

dragons are a mythical creature

fairies as well and we also got a fairy frame

[cerulean cedar]

And considering time travels are canon, so I wouldn't be so surprised at this point

[umbral fulcrum]

on a funny note: Imagine bein before cetus and still not have a fkin vigilante supplies T_T

[coarse basin]

myths vs recreations of assorted skeletons found in a single planet that is now one of many in a giant empire

[red holly]

unless Tau had dinosaurs

because why not

[coarse basin]

time travel is the most likely way but we'd need an outlandish reason to travel to prehistoric times

[cerulean cedar]

I mean, everything is possible in this game

[red path]

orokins destroyed everything about pre-orokin era, pretty sure dunos too with all the bones

[coarse basin]

yeahhhh

[cerulean cedar]

We have a monkey dude, Ozzy Osborne (temple), Loli waterdriver, an ancient dragon

[glossy violet]

traditional orokin medicine with the bones

[lavish pebble]

I prefer my medicine boneless, thank you very much.

[red holly]

I think we are going into the #lore-discussion direction

[red path]

even if it will be dino, which one? there is actually a lot of them, you can even say ropalolyst looks like one

[cerulean cedar]

A t-rex maybe? Or raptor for speed?

[red path]

t-rex has too short hand to hold weapon

[coarse basin]

anyways this is all to say with the current direction of the story, there arent really opportunities to get a dinosaur frame
-# well that and they've announced there are currently no plans for one, and they plan like 4-5 frames ahead

[cerulean cedar]

No plans for one?

I remember that Rebecca joked about that once..

[glossy violet]

next frame after follie is Harrow 2

[red path]

maybe there was dinos on the tau

[red holly]

it's possible

they can make it happen and no one would question it

[red path]

and we will get them as next faction of mobs to fight against instead of frame

[red holly]

yes, turn warframe into dino crisis

[coarse basin]

lots of people would question it
but eventually the awesomeness would shut them up

[cerulean cedar]

Yes, just like oraxia

[glossy violet]

theyd have to be something manmade, sorta. one of the devs did say the story is about humans ("humans") nd so far the only xenolife weve seen is a flower

oraxia makes sense bc i guess themes of childhood fear and, well, dominus thrax

[red holly]

children like dinosaurs

so dinosaurs in duviri

[cerulean cedar]

"I'm afraid of dinosaurs" 😭

[glossy violet]

gonna be dominus thrax's fault again if we have a dinoframe

[coarse basin]

wdym harrow 2

nun?

[glossy violet]

harrow but he's blue idk

it camw to me in a dream

[cerulean cedar]

There's a giant worm in there, so I wouldn't find that hard to happen

[red path]

getting too far into the past, helminth is actually born in Jura

[red holly]

Helminthus Rex

[coarse basin]

im... having a vision...
evil clown frame... but it's a painter frame... but it can trivialize 80% of missions...

oh

hm

[glossy violet]

ohhh my god thats groundbreaking 🔥

maybe she'll spark endless discourse about her body type and also spawn a million infinite ammo thermia RPGs

[coarse basin]

wow thats genius

[red path]

and insta-fail other 20% via bugs

[coarse basin]

IM NOT GONNA MAKE THE JOKE

[cerulean cedar]

We got mirage for evil clown

[red holly]

Limbo troll players are evil clowns

[glossy violet]

we blocking extraction with random bullshit with this one 🔥

[proven hound]

Hi I'm Gara and this is my 6 meters contact damage per second

[coarse basin]

and now we have black-and-white pennywise

[red path]

you know you can subsume banish

[glossy violet]

thank you gara

[red holly]

don't give people ideas

[proven hound]

I can't see the acolyte health, it directly spawns the arcane and steel essence

[glossy violet]

just free essence and arcane out of thin air every 2 mins thats crazy

[worldly sentinel]

Does Excal's passive count heavy blades?

[coarse basin]

its probably referring to the "sword" subclass of melees

[proven hound]

But I'm made of glass, and we all know glass is very strong, that's why I got 90% dr skill.

[cyan aspen]

finally 💧

[static cobalt]

amyone veterans who can help me. do this 🥺

too stronk for me

[coarse basin]

then do a lower lvl one

[static cobalt]

already done it.

thats why im asking boss for this 😅

[dense idol]

does anyone know the spawnrates of the 35mm film in hollvania i have done 5 missions where i have gotten all 8 of the spawn things but i havent gotten 35mm film

[signal scarab]

What does "Direct damage" mean for Galv Aptitude

Like regular no status cold viral radiation impact slash etc damage for that weapon?

[wintry prairie]

for the AX-52, if I wanted a high crit build, taking Primary deadhead over merciless would be better?

[coarse basin]

damage on direct hit

vs aoe dmg

[signal scarab]

Ohhh okay

Oh so it's mid with chain weapons?

Or explosions

[autumn sparrow]

is kuva fortres required for steelpath

[shy wedge]

Uh not really answering your question but you don't like Biotic Rounds?

[daring parrot]

yes

[coarse basin]

mid with explosive weapons

or radial weapons

[wintry prairie]

I guess I was priortizing corrosive instead, but that might be more worthwhile!

[signal scarab]

Alrighty then

[coarse basin]

yep

[shy wedge]

You run Corrosive + Biotic Rounds

If you want red crits then Primary Acuity + Zoom Fire

Zoom Firing = headshots have 400% crit chance

There's also the hip fire build that I forgot how to do but basically it's infinite ammo

[autumn sparrow]

Do augments like pilfering strangledome scale with ability power?

[shy wedge]

Primary Crux for this build maybe?

[chilly jungle]

nah

[vale falcon]

Some augments scale, some augments don't, the pilferings do not, but ore gaze does (caps at 400% strength in this case), even tho they are similar in effect

[chilly jungle]

ngl its hard to benefit from ore gaze unless your frame uses high range + strength

[vale falcon]

Yeah it is hard, basically just used by select nekros hyperfarm strats and atlas himself

[brittle spire]

How do you even tell if a hit is a weakpoint hit? I can never tell unless it’s against the hunhullus lol

[vale falcon]

You don't easily without using buffs dependant on weakpoint hits

[daring parrot]

it shows up on the crosshair. also just aim for head

[brittle spire]

Oh ok

[chilly jungle]

ig you can use nekros,atlas,khora and nova all at once instead of trying to minmax oregaze on nekros

[vale falcon]

Cyte 09 makes weakpoints glow if that helps you

[shy wedge]

Synthesis Scanner with the widget shows weakpoint I think

But generally just aim for the head it's the most common weakpoint

[chilly jungle]

only hard weakpoint to find is on infested ngl

[vale falcon]

There isn't one for those, just one that reveals the weaknesses/resistances, which is kinda useless now lol

[shy wedge]

Cavia enemies there are a lot of enemies there that have a weakpoint on their limbs I just forgot the names of the enemies xd

[vale falcon]

The 3 hand one that gives overguard is always weakpoint
The walker made of 2 has the weakpoint between the blocks
The crawler made of 1 has none
And I can't remember the rest for the murmur

[chilly jungle]

then how am i getting charge off them for my incarnon 😭 ?

[shy wedge]

Sell for credits

[umbral galleon]

buh the base version my favourite gun i have no idea what the prime version even doess

numbers already green and its level 0 with no mods installed

bonus numbers

[vale falcon]

That's the unmodded differences, leveling weapons doesn't actually provide any sort of stat buff, only mods do

[umbral galleon]

why my last post get deleted

[vale falcon]

Idk

[umbral galleon]

fine i'll post each image seperatly instead of in a group which feels more spammy

https://i.imgur.com/YPYnLyS.png