gameplay-discussion

[keen lintel]

i feel u. i was hoping to get Styanax P before Follie. or atleast with Follie but them releasing both frames at same time last year has left a WIDE gap between frame releases

[heady copper]

why would archon stretch need a nerf the regen is miserable

[keen lintel]

it was a bad idea

[spiral solstice]

Bro I thought they gonna at least announce it yesterday (thought of it as a bday gift from them) but follie showed up

[restive pumice]

i guess sevagoth and torid primary are good for ESO elite 60-70 handled solo to zone 8 after some players left zone 1 and 2

good guidance from warframe forum for sevagoth. Less usage of energy helped

[pure gulch]

if you have any good crowd clearer you can get to 8 pretty easily tbh

doesn’t even have to be that good

[rugged shore]

Seva is spammy by design so far from what id recommend for eso anyways

[red holly]

orokin catalyst invasion

[round ledge]

is sevagoth supposed to be only able to use his second when trying to revive

[red holly]

yes if you removed his 4

[round ledge]

and if i didnt

[red holly]

then no

[round ledge]

and how does one fix it, if its the case

[red holly]

ask DE

[round ledge]

alr

[restive pumice]

His second can use 5 enemies by clicking and aiming yourself on them its a revive way yourself.

[rare tinsel]

are there weapons excluded from archimedea?

[restive pumice]

But use and tenno to put wires on enemies to a sleep while you attacking .

[sudden tendon]

shouldnt be

[red holly]

weapons? no, but they might give enemies 95% resistance to everything but archgun

orokin catalyst invasion, I repeat, orokin catalyst invasion

[willow bluff]

Thermian RPG hehe

[red holly]

yeah that too

[willow bluff]

Also ammo efficiency wasn't supposed to affect RPG

It doesn't work on regular ones in ETA

[red holly]

energized munitions work on those?

[willow bluff]

IDK how Lohk Surge affects follie's RPG

[red holly]

are you refering to the infinite ammo and fire rate buff?

[willow bluff]

Yes

[red holly]

no idea but that would be nice if you got it

Follie in general looks like a very creative frame which is fitting for the painter frame

[willow bluff]

If someone rolls that combo in ETA it's instant speedrun

[red holly]

imagine Follie just spawning those just to get max ammo efficiency on RPG

[real finch]

didnt they say they were gonna remove that

[willow bluff]

Goodbye barricade

[sudden tendon]

yeah lmao

[willow bluff]

They said it with surety?

[sudden tendon]

the lohk surge

[willow bluff]

Oh that

[sudden tendon]

yeahhhhhh

[red holly]

hmm, they did show the lohk surges on her

[quaint brook]

I mean, they showed you how it works in the devstream

[willow bluff]

I still wonder if her RPG is affected by other ammo efficiency nonetheless

[quaint brook]

its a question of if pabs keeps it in

[red holly]

like energized munitions?

[willow bluff]

I have a better option

[red holly]

cyte?

[quaint brook]

pabs said he gotta, reb begged him not to

[sudden tendon]

well he said that they work exactly like how it does rn so u could check

[willow bluff]

Pistoleer proc'd from secondary

[red holly]

can you use cyte's 3 to get more ammo?

probably not

wait, what about Protea and her 4

[willow bluff]

Good question

Also people are saying Follie's 1 is gonna be subsume

[red holly]

1 would make the most sense

[willow bluff]

Which feels shocking because how good that'll be on any frame

[red holly]

what was her 1 again?

oh yeah the one that covers you in ink

[restive pumice]

so i have to suffer next 9 hours to get warframe parts x2 times 1 for inventory and 1 for subsume

Once it arrives xD

[willow bluff]

Instant transmission
Invincible [Title Card]
Status Cleanse

[red holly]

hop hop hop hop

with casting speed it will be super fast

[restive pumice]

[red holly]

I can't wait to make chain reactions with barrels

[glossy violet]

lol set up some looney tunes nonsense with barrels

[willow bluff]

1 minute cooldown

[red holly]

[willow bluff]

Let's hope not

I'm worried about something else

[sudden tendon]

talm kench q

[sudden tendon]

i mean its only invincible during cast tho right?

and for status cleanse u have pilliage which does way more

[willow bluff]

Depends on duration

[sudden tendon]

new troll frame?

[restive pumice]

Oh no it will be a competition to our warframes like thst limbo.

[sudden tendon]

ic

[restive pumice]

I guess limbo will troll that warframe.

[cyan aspen]

wait

[red holly]

wasn't Q the tongue though?

[cyan aspen]

why is citrine so expensive 😭

I'm gonna have to do that stage for like, 7 hours

[restive pumice]

Well mirror defense.

[sudden tendon]

oh oops maybe😭

[restive pumice]

Put 2 players in 1 area and out other 2 in ither area and voilla you fight and get the stuff.

[sudden tendon]

i feel like it is

[sudden tendon]

not worth dont do it😭

shes so mid

[daring parrot]

maybe they will have health and you can destroy them

[sudden tendon]

well he said that its 1 to 1 in the devstream right?

so im assuming they're gonna have the same properties

[cyan aspen]

idk I want the collection
also the arcane for my protea gg

[sudden tendon]

which arcane

[cyan aspen]

steadfast

[willow bluff]

I assume orokin death orbs will initially be bugged lmao

Summon it near a prime frame, u get 250 energy immediately.

[sudden tendon]

ah ic

[willow bluff]

This might be possible as a later fix

[meager tundra]

did arca titron's slam capacitor get bugged? it's capped at 1 in the ui, but works like it stacks

[willow bluff]

They'll not realize this immediately

[sudden tendon]

i feel like any sort of aoe setup will just insta kill it the moment its placed down lmao

[willow bluff]

Nah friendly fire might be disabled against it

But not for the barrel

The barrel will likely gonna be destroyed by anyone in squad with any AoE

I'm also thinking of a build immediately...

Mind Control subsume on Follie + Thermian RPG = Insane Mind Control damage charge.

Her 1 is like Pillage with invulnerability gate instead of shield gate + Wrathful Advance teleportation

[prime lion]

pistol acuity > pistol gambit esp when doing headshots?

[willow bluff]

Only when doing headshots

[prime lion]

danke

[sudden tendon]

idk how to feel about this ability, prob just gonna wait for the release

[red holly]

I bet there will be a lot of things not working as intended about Follie

[willow bluff]

Imagine Ivara in prowl teleporting everywhere

Invisibility + status Cleanse

Without needing quiver

[red holly]

Hello Tenno, abilities are alarming now

[willow bluff]

Quiver augment gives status Immunity, but it forces her mobility to reduce.

[sudden tendon]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm

[willow bluff]

Pillage depends on enemies having removable armor or shield

[floral gull]

Is putting Ophanim Eyes on Vauban Prime worth it? I would use Tempest Barrage but I just don't like the duration it has.

[red holly]

or if you are using pillage augment to get anything out of it

[willow bluff]

So if u already have fully stripped it, or against infested

[willow bluff]

Pillage augment only works on hildryn

[red holly]

yes, because no one else has Haven

[willow bluff]

They've done it quite a lot of times when they tie one subsume augment with another non-existent ability

Hearty Nourishment

Imagine everyone spamming nourish but also having status Immunity

[red holly]

Nourish doesnt give viral status chance, right? it's just damage so the weapon still needs to have status chance

[gilded meadow]

do i jeed to beat the kuva fortress and zariman 100% for stee path?

[sudden tendon]

yeah but the explosion just applies alot of virals stacks anyways sooooooo

[sudden tendon]

no

[pure gulch]

kuva fortress yes, zariman no

[sudden tendon]

just everything before new war

[sudden tendon]

oh wait yeah kuva is pre new war mb

[gilded meadow]

ooop ok thanks

[red holly]

12m radius is okay I guess

[gilded meadow]

im happy i sont need to do zariman 😂

[red holly]

even without range mods

[red holly]

does it also apply to allies being hit or just you?

like companions

[sudden tendon]

if they have nourish then yeah

[red holly]

it does say it extends to allies

[sudden tendon]

ye close allies on cast also gain nourish

[red holly]

nice

that's perfect, it means my pet and duplex bond clones can also spread viral

no, wait, not duplex bond clones, they take no damage

but can still spread viral with claws

[sudden tendon]

yeah duplex bond typically excludes alot of stuff

[sudden tendon]

everythings probably already gonna have viral on it lol

[red holly]

I want my pets to be independent

[foggy moat]

So I guess mag makes acolytes go poof

[red holly]

I didn't even see the acolyte spawn

the HP bar just went poof

I've just read momentous bond, I need it

[foggy moat]

I had to originally replay the clip to even realize the health bar existed

[willow bluff]

Acolytes don't have Stalker's level of aura.

Stalker spawns invulnerable for some seconds, with a good pose, and then begins assassination.

[red holly]

I remember being genuenly intimidated by Stalker back in 2015

oh crap he's here

[foggy moat]

Same. Back when I was new, I was always running around hoping the rest of the lobby would kill him so I wouldnt down

[red holly]

that's what some of the people did so Stalker didn't went away with his blueprints

[foggy moat]

Yup!

[stray knoll]

Heu

[foggy moat]

I'm still mad it took 7 years for stalker to drop me despair

I got like seven war blueprints before I got that damn secondary

[amber trench]

I have several of each weapon blueprint

[red holly]

I still didn't get his secondary

[stray knoll]

Lol

What's everyone favorite Ware frame

[red holly]

Volt

[foggy moat]

Zephyr

[willow bluff]

Imagine my disappointment when I found out that Despair incarnon doesn't have homing, it's kunai.

[red holly]

does that make kunai a better kunai than despair?

[willow bluff]

Nyx

[stray knoll]

Hyldrin prime and xaku primes

[willow bluff]

Probably

It definitely is funnier with a -projectile speed riven.

[red holly]

also recently Inaros

[foggy moat]

Surprised they didn't do an uncarnon for hikou considering it has an ancient prime

[willow bluff]

You can run, but you can't hide!

[stray knoll]

Only have two primes been playing a while but kinda like going slow

[willow bluff]

I had a -projectile speed riven for despair, oh how primed disappoint I was...

[stray knoll]

Anyone else play anything but Warframe

[hollow cradle]

Black Desert

[willow bluff]

Horizon Zero Dawn

[foggy moat]

A lot of games. I just finished granblue fantasy and i'm getting back into monster hunter wilds

[willow bluff]

DE could learn a lot of mechanics from it.

Specially boss fights.

[stray knoll]

I'm into fallout Skyrim Warframe and Hogwarts legacy

[sudden tendon]

been playing where winds meet

[foggy moat]

We need a Warframe x Final Fantasy crossover. I need to be able to ride a chocobo

[stray knoll]

I just deleted that game

[willow bluff]

I have the last one.
Not impressed with the game but the aesthetics.

[foggy moat]

Hogwarts legacy would have been cooler if it had a morality system based off the actions and spells you learn and use

It feels wrong that you wind up being the hero while spamming unforgivable curses

[willow bluff]

I'd call it:
"Revelio the game."

[stray knoll]

I'm actually looking for people to play with

[willow bluff]

Oh how many Revelios I spammed

[foggy moat]

"Oh that wizard over there is such a nice person. He saved everyone"

Meanwhile:
"CRUCIO"

[stray knoll]

1,000,000

[willow bluff]

I'm getting asked "is Revelio all u know?"

[stray knoll]

Lol no my mom use to say potato when it said pretego

Shenota89 is my PlayStation name

[keen shore]

Gonna be honest I expect,50% corn,48% memes and 2% cool stuff

[stray knoll]

Is that for a 3d printer

[keen shore]

Dev stream new warframe ability

[stray knoll]

That's cool

[keen shore]

Oh trust me it is

[stray knoll]

I would like to put in I think there should be different way to get platinum

[hollow cradle]

warframe forum has feedback and suggestions

[lofty garden]

Plat is how they stay in business. They aren’t going to meddle with that.

[stray knoll]

Lol wishful thinking

[keen plinth]

Anyone knows what are the requirements to run warframe on an android?

[rich valley]

it actually is

[lofty garden]

https://www.warframe.com/en/news/warframe-on-android-available-now

I was able to run it on bluestacks. It did not run very well, but it was enough to play the first mission so I could link my account

[coarse basin]

little late to respond, but I’ll do it anyways.
First of all, electric status from arc coil stuns enemies for more survivability so tazicor’s CC is unnecessary here, as the diriga can stun and restun enemies. Second, burst laser can run augur mods for more effective shield gating, which is generally going to provide better survivability than throwing cold at the enemies.
also, like I said, laser rifle prime hits all of those requirements as well, so tazicor gets pushed down another slot. oh, and prisma burst rifle also hits those requirements, so tazicor gets pushed down yet another slot.
as far as I can tell, there are multiple other IPS guns that work here, but they don’t hit the crit chance requirement if you’re running tenacious bond and care about that.

[atomic jackal]

unfortunately you just gotta suffer like the rest of us. Im sure ill not be plat broke 1 day lol

[willow bluff]

Roll rivens get rich.

[lofty garden]

Either grab an Xbox and use Microsoft Rewards to buy prime access for the plat, or go to PC for daily login to try for a 75% off coupon.

[jovial crater]

Wish Warframe had like 2 more difficulty sections before steelpath

[rich valley]

Buy tennocon tickets and gain a chance to get 100k platinum.

[lofty garden]

it does, but people skip ahead

[jovial crater]

Sorry Meant just meant Difficulty, like Easy, Medium, Hard and Steelpath bec grinding some frames but its too easy but steelpath too hard, so i need that in between

[hollow cradle]

That exists because as go through the star chart it gets harder as enemies level up

[lofty garden]

The newer content is 55-115 or higher.

[jovial crater]

but i want pre existing content to also get harder difficultys??

[lofty garden]

and the real fight is RNG anyway

[jovial crater]

not go from lvl 7 - 160

[lofty garden]

The game is built around ~5min missions/rounds

[jovial crater]

yes, but they can make those 5 min missions harder?? you jsut dont get it, its either warm butter or Solid Steel

[rich valley]

but why?

[coarse basin]

there are stages leading up to steel path
1999 bounties are lvl 80-110 iirc

[jovial crater]

its called a challenge

[lofty garden]

Why would you want them harder when what you are really fighting is the 0.03% drop rate for a mod?

[coarse basin]

you’re asking for them to make things easier
wdym challenge

[lofty garden]

The real challenge is finding enough energy leech ospreys for 350 pigment

[jovial crater]

would it be so hard to create an extra difficulty thats not locked behind a story and is completly optional for early game, and it just gives the game a bit more hardness

[lofty garden]

There would be no point. This is not destiny. Killing enemies in volume is how the game is structured.

and steel path is not a challenge given the correct gear

[atomic jackal]

The issue isn't the difficulty. The issue is your gear. You need upgrades

[rich valley]

that would make matchmaking a dev nightmare. this aint a singleplayer games

[lofty garden]

Fundamentally, your real enemy in Warframe is WallyRNGesus.

Go farm Xiphos. It will take you weeks. Along the way you will create dedicated crate breaker loadouts to run Marduk as fast as possible.

[atomic jackal]

Yo what farm hurt you? lol

[rich valley]

i bet its the Javlok capacitor

[hollow cradle]

Harrow systems before Circuit

[lofty garden]

Got plenty of those

[rich valley]

bruh, give me some

[lofty garden]

Harrow did take a bit. Hate was two years.

[jovial crater]

I just would like a extra difficulty before steelpath that makes earlier planets more challenging, like lvl cap is increased by 20, Drop rates by 20%, Bec the game doesnt give you a challenge. Like Players find tutorial and Earth too easy allow them to do hard mode increased rewards +5-40 lvl cap would be nice

[hollow cradle]

i manage to farm all the stalker weapons in about 2 years.

[lofty garden]

Farming for Xiphos’s last part… I got a Nitain as a reward before the avionics.

[rich valley]

me, 4 years to get all stalkers weapon including War

[lofty garden]

Yeah, Hate was the last one I needed.

[hollow cradle]

i gave up on Xiphos with 240 attempts for one part and it not dropping.

[lofty garden]

I think I did it inside the 99 runs expected.

But that was for just avionics, I did not purposefully farm the other two parts

[hollow cradle]

i think avionics was 26 runs

i bought Xiphos for my birthday instead lol

[lofty garden]

I do not understand the desire for more difficult enemies when we get swarms of enemies and the goal is to farm all of them. What challenge would you be adding by making them steel path lite?

[jovial crater]

a challenge thats what i want a challenge before steelpath not warm butter

[versed night]

Is Xaku Prime a good warframe?
I main Caliban Prime rn

[rich valley]

aint steel path already a challenge?

[jovial crater]

i want a difficulty before it

[rich valley]

with 100% more drop chance?

[lofty garden]

I think a lot of this misplaced desire is because steel path starts with the worst possible enemies (Grineer). Corpus and Infested are “warm butter” on Steel Path.

[devout burrow]

no

[lofty garden]

And Murmur are easier on Steel Path than in Netracells.

[devout burrow]

the builds must insanely suck if you think steel path is a challenge

[coarse basin]

true

[versed night]

??

[coarse basin]

warframe isn’t supposed to be hard

[devout burrow]

all frames except qorvex are good

[rich valley]

for "beginner", not for veteran. Since veteran can just liquify any enemies within 50m radius

[coarse basin]

yeah xaku’s good

[hollow cradle]

all warframes are good, they are not all good at the same thing

[jovial crater]

i just wanted a difficulty before it bec the gameplay before is too easy, and can nearly complete the whole story WITHOUT MODS

[coarse basin]

I’d say that about almost every frame

[versed night]

Ik, but I mean he is boring to play or is fun and all that?

[hollow cradle]

depends on you and your preferences

[lofty garden]

Xaku is fun. Shade makes them invisible, so you can pull 15 guns and run around while invisible while the guns do the shooting.

[coarse basin]

WITHOUT MODS
are you trolling or

[valid granite]

Is there anything worth buying? I have no aura mods as you can see in the first img

[jovial crater]

no im serious until the new war i dont need mods

[versed night]

Alr

[coarse basin]

that’s because anything below lvl 70 is an absolute joke

[lofty garden]

Enemy Radar can come in handy

[devout burrow]

volatile variant, double tap, enemy radar and holster amp have their uses

[jovial crater]

yes i wish they made it actually hard

[lofty garden]

Infested Impedance is also useful at times.

[atomic jackal]

You want more challenging content pre steel path and you dont use mods?

[jovial crater]

yes

[hollow cradle]

you do EDA and ETA? solo?

[atomic jackal]

youre rage baiting lol

[coarse basin]

nonono
you want them to make this game EASIER
that’s the part of the game for beginners
they proceed to make it higher level, but you don’t want to use mods because god knows why, and you’re whining about steel path being too hard

[jovial crater]

thast post new war

[coarse basin]

go play another game

[hollow cradle]

DE arent going to rearrange the game for you

[coarse basin]

a soulslike or smth

[jovial crater]

not about it being to hard, its a leap yes, its some challenge but 4 friends quit bec too easy

[fair ibex]

if they made the game like some souls difficulty they would lose more than 4 people

its not really about being a hard game in the early stages

[jovial crater]

not souls like just something harder than warm butter a optional difficulty

[fair ibex]

they arent gonna add difficulty options where they have to balance everythig multiple times

[atomic jackal]

Its called steel path

[fair ibex]

you get more difficult content later

[rich valley]

did they play it public or solo? if they play it in public, ofc its going to be easy

[jovial crater]

solo

[devout burrow]

I always say that you can want ez content and thats fine but if enemies legit show no resistence at the beginning of the game where you need to catch peoples attention then many people will leave cause they see no point in upgradig and playing further

[jovial crater]

see that what i mean

[fair ibex]

i think you over estimate the amount of people that want HARD games over people that want just plain fun

[lofty garden]

Enemy density is determined by squad size in regular star chart. Solo is baby mode.

[coarse basin]

this game is supposed to be a power fantasy, essentially.
you mod your frames to handle high difficulty missions better until they become easy.
you just want to play another game, and you’re saying that’s what everyone else should want too.

[jovial crater]

no point modding if it takes like 30hours to get to hard content

[fair ibex]

its like the people that want soulslikes to have an easy mode - no, thats not the game design, just play a different game, your saying the same thing but in reverse

[lofty garden]

He worships at the temple of Scott.

[devout burrow]

to get to the content where your modding matters you need to go through the same missions with no resistance whatsoever so many times that many people will be bored out of the game
many people dont care about story and just wanna farm/try new things
but why try new things when the new things make no difference in the content you are playing

[glass radish]

Hello, i rerolled a kuva Chakkhirr riven and dont know what is the best one, 143.8% dmg, 96.6%Crit dmg, 73.7% multishot, -60.4% status chance. Or 1.7 punch through, 110.9%damage 105.3%Cc, where can i see what are the stata to look for in rivens?

[lofty garden]

You can see how that worked for Scott. He is on SoulFrame.

[coarse basin]

I’m not arguing with you, this is a waste of my time.
either you’re ragebaiting or you’re an idiot, and it’s having the same effect, so I’m bowing out of this ridiculous argument

[oblique sequoia]

Is there a Nechramech that can equip the Archmelee?

[floral wigeon]

Yess hopefully this game could mirror Shangri-La Frontier that whats the game almost there

[lofty garden]

Sadly, no.

[coarse basin]

bonewidow has ironbride, an exalted archmelee

[devout burrow]

the points we are bringing across have been said by a lot of new players btw, if you cant see the views and gaming experiences of other people then idk what to tell you

[rich valley]

none for now, but i hope they do in the future since they gave us 4 slots for necramech for some reasons

[lofty garden]

chicken legs has an exalted melee, but cannot equip the regular ones.

[oblique sequoia]

Ok thanks, guys. Guess it's back to Archwing missions to level those up for Mastery

[dark cedar]

Yet the game has so many new players that also stick around. The game isn't for everyone and that's completely fine.

[fair ibex]

they would lose way way more players if they made the start a serious challenge for people

like a massive amount more

[lofty garden]

yeah, I just use mine in SP archwing incursions

[dark cedar]

There's a very good reason this game has so many people sticking with it, why change the formula for some new people that haven't given it more than 10 hours?

[coarse basin]

and it would be inaccurate to the future gameplay they will experience

[rich valley]

imagine going from normal mode, then harder mode, then another harder mode, then steel path. the burnout.

[fair ibex]

yeah , i play a ton of hard games/platformers/souls etc and love them , but this aint them and i love this for what it is

[restive pumice]

How much rotations of C i need for ESO to get braton vandal part on zone 8.

[hollow cradle]

rotC ESO is 8 waves

[devout burrow]

60% of players that tried the game left before hitting 2 hours in mission time btw

[restive pumice]

Yes and how much rotations i need to make.

[devout burrow]

probs also due to the bad new player experience that was a thing before

however its just a combination of many things that make the new player experience not the greatest

[hollow cradle]

just told you how many is rotC. drop rate is still rng

[jovial crater]

i had 4 friends quit bec too easy, there is no point modding until maybe around Uranus

[devout burrow]

too easy enemies being one of them

[restive pumice]

that 2 %

[lofty garden]

six months of playing to rotation c once a day should net you all the parts for braton vandal

[restive pumice]

Hm so 6 months 30 days 25 min a day.

[lofty garden]

BUT, they will be adjusting braton vandal’s drop rates march 25

[restive pumice]

oh for how much percentage

[lofty garden]

they did not say

[devout burrow]

yeah, a lot of people see no point in playing further and investing their time in farming new gear if all is gonna one shot anyways but ig people dont understand that

[jovial crater]

Warframe would benifit if it just had a extra optional difficulty for the star chart that all players have access to and is completly optional just makes the early game that bit harder, for those that like a challenge

[restive pumice]

hm .

[hollow cradle]

use warframe wiki

[lofty garden]

they are adjusting a bunch of drop rates as a QoL update.

[restive pumice]

that blueprint is heavy for drops xD

I got other x3 already all 3 parts xD

[oblique sequoia]

They said it'll affect the Braton and Lato Vandal, too

I may be able to get those, finally LMAO

[jovial crater]

i guess another player killer is Forge time, i wish the first few Forging of frames and weapons was reduced for maybe the first 3 frames and first 10 weapons, so players can experiment at a quicker rate exploring the content

[lofty garden]

yeah, blueprint was my last drop, too.

[hollow cradle]

You could do this by removing arcanes, mods.

[jovial crater]

BUT I WANT TO MOD THATS THE GAME

[restive pumice]

I didn't got it yet xD

[rich valley]

they already did

[jovial crater]

they did? thought it was only for Excalibur, mag and volt?

[coarse basin]

the grind is being fixed a little

[dark cedar]

I agree that new player experience isn't perfect, but they are trying to work on it. Easy enemies is definitely not the main issue either. If you played the start of the game by buying any frames for platinum, skipped grinding for weapons and warframes, and rushed through content to get to something that's "Hard enough" for you, then you're just ruining the game for yourself. The main point is to make the grind as easy and enjoyable as possible, not get to content that's difficult. The game is an endless sandbox, not a difficulty soulslike.

[rich valley]

nope, rhino only took 24 hours instead of 72

[coarse basin]

they mentioned it in the devstream

chances are being boosted

[lofty garden]

makes no sense that I have 15 stocks and one blueprint

[devout burrow]

DE is slowly doing this for the starting frames though I still dont understand why they dont do it for all frames
like if people want to rush a frame they still rush it if the crafting time is 24 hours
but 3 days is way too much

[restive pumice]

[coarse basin]

actually those three have the regular craft time up until next update

[lofty garden]

3 days is fine. pipeline the process.

[hollow cradle]

So you want DE to provide more hard content instead of fixing long standing bugs that are being ignored.

[rich valley]

just so you know, pre-covid warframe is much worse in terms of new player experience. Once Reb took over, they look over the new player experience

[jovial crater]

i have not experienced any bugs that are game breaking?

[fair ibex]

i feel like you guys are the sort of people that complain when people ask for easy mode in other popular games

[austere shuttle]

damn still no word on styanax prime

[restive pumice]

Try roathe vs exploiter orb.

[dark cedar]

What MR are you? And how many quests have you done?

[hollow cradle]

the issue is they exist

[lofty garden]

if you are solo, the game breaking bugs are far fewer

[rich valley]

it will be either on late april or may.

[jovial crater]

Im Mr 14 now, with 1 main quest left, and 2 side quests

[oblique sequoia]

I would not wish the older New Player Experience on anyone nowadays. There's a lot of stuff that made me take years worth of breaks in between. It was not fun

[dark cedar]

What are you searching for exactly from modding?

[rich valley]

the railjack grind xDDD

[restive pumice]

Our condolences.

[oblique sequoia]

I was thankfully not there when that was a thing. But I have heard the horrors

[hollow cradle]

it wasnt that bad

[dark cedar]

God bless.. 5 days or however long it took to craft that thing and way too many resources

[restive pumice]

the points plus ivara parts for warframe spy missions.

[lofty garden]

The difficulty of warframe is not in the killing, it is in finding the right things to kill.

[jovial crater]

Confused? I just wish that players had a optional difficulty at base game to make the game that slight challenge early on, bec lvl 1-30 enemys are a breeze and hated playing like 3 hours of boring content to have something that needs modding finally

[rich valley]

i was there, took like a week. and once they overhaul the grind, i got a mail, i think it was 70% of the resources got refunded

[oblique sequoia]

I took Ivara from Duviri only bc her main bp wouldn't drop for me

[devout burrow]

it doesnt need to be the 2 ends of the extreme
right now if you just play the game and put random mods on without thinking about what would be effective and what not then you will have an insanely easy time in star chart
just more tanky enemies would already be enough so that you have a reason to mod your weapons and frames a bit better
and tbh the "ruining the game for yourself" part is a bit eh cause the game gives you plat at the start of the game, and the game doesnt tell you what will happen if you end up buying certain frames
if you buy smth like kullervo you can indeed play unmodded throughout the whole star chart and then people will think that thats just the whole game cause steel path isnt teased anywhere

[oblique sequoia]

Damn... That's still pretty long

[dark cedar]

Facts, there's some insanely difficult challenges

[restive pumice]

And i grinded straight for 2 weeks.

[lofty garden]

yeah, we got cash back on the railjack grind

[restive pumice]

[oblique sequoia]

I'm glad y'all got refunded 😭

[lofty garden]

eh, didn’t need it

[rich valley]

lemme check the old mail

[glossy violet]

I was there before they changed the necramech grind too and farmed for months for harrow 😭

really too bad for me that i liked harrow and did not have plat at the time

[lofty garden]

necramech was fine

[restive pumice]

that necramech was pain to grind.

[still nacelle]

is aksomati prime really that mid ? i heard there are better option

[restive pumice]

Did you tested it.

[still nacelle]

i still dont have it

[lofty garden]

you got a ton of other stuff at the same time, so it wasn’t that bad if you were farming all of the new stuff

[glossy violet]

back then i found killing the necramechs really difficult so it was one hell of a pain to get damaged parts and matrices unfortunately

[rich valley]

here it is

[still nacelle]

i am split between chasing aksomati prime or fragor prime, dont have that many aya

[restive pumice]

im just thinking now should I continue grind vandal braton BP or not.

[still nacelle]

wait, i just asked the wrong prime lmao

i am meant to ask akstilleto prime

[dark cedar]

50 plat isn't really much, ngl. You can't really buy anything with it. And honestly, it varies from person to person. For mobile and console players, warframe is pretty goddamn hard, purely due to ease of controls, but on PC, it's easy. There's no middle ground to be found.

[oblique sequoia]

I remember when Carbides and Cubic Diodes would pop up like Argon Crystals and Stela

[jovial crater]

nah i played on mobile and still felt easy

[lofty garden]

but did you really need the rubedo?

[astral flax]

Does anyone else have an issue with Xbox one Bluetooth controller on wareframe mobile? Particularly left and right triggers not working? Really puts a damper on gameplay when you cannot aim or fire your ranged weapons.

[dark cedar]

I played on mobile and was struggling like hell

It's different for everyone

[restive pumice]

so keyboard and a mouse are like hands for bulldozer, the mobile.devices are like you trying to drive airplane or helicopter or drone stuff, or driving a car with wheel rotation.

[dark cedar]

Just because you're better mechanically, doesn't mean the game needs to be harder for others who are already struggling. The optional difficulty may help? But that would divide public squads a lot, it would be a lot more difficult to find players to play with.

[oblique sequoia]

^

[restive pumice]

nah it's experience stuff but we need to find a android ways to connect or xbox controller or something to make easier for mobile devices to play a game.

[oblique sequoia]

You can get an OTG cable and attach the controller to the phone

[jovial crater]

I just Beat Zarimon ( Halako Perimeter ), with valkyr with 2 mods, literally Steel Charge and Carnis Mandable on the weapon ITS A LVL 50 mission dont you get it??

[dark cedar]

Yeah, it's not supposed to be all that difficult

Now go do the steel path version of it

[jovial crater]

it takes like 5-20hours to get to that point. Whats the point in utilising warframes key thing Modding

[restive pumice]

Bruh no not yet.

[dark cedar]

You're collecting resources and mods up until that point

[fair ibex]

just sounds like you need to play a diffeent game tbh

[astral flax]

I have the exact opposite problem. Everything with controller works fine for destiny rising, but warframe triggers will not work at all via Bluetooth, and via USB connection right joystick does not work and triggers cause camera motion, no ranged weapons.

[oblique sequoia]

Normal Star Chart is meant to make you familiar with the game and is not supposed to be an all out challenge. If it was an all out challenge then what's the point of Steel Path?

[fair ibex]

these are the people that reply GIT GUD when people ask for difficulty options in souls games ( not that I agree with that )

[oblique sequoia]

And getting to Steel Path while making base Star Chart difficult would be so much of a slog, a LOT of people would just be burned out

[fair ibex]

not every game needs to be some slog fest wit insta kills and the need to fully competent to get past the first few levels

[oblique sequoia]

There's a reason they reduced the requirements to unlock Steel Path, too

[red holly]

souls games usually have an easy mode, it just depends on your build not on the difficulty options

[dark cedar]

Exactly, it's basically like the tutorial. Once you reach steel path, you're made to use all the knowledge to finally start combining stuff to see what works.

[fair ibex]

apart from sekiro 🙂 the goat

[oblique sequoia]

This game is massive, with a lot of different game modes and content to go through. Making it a slog would not do the game any favors at all

[red holly]

at this point it's too late to slow down the game

[oblique sequoia]

Exactly

[fair ibex]

the draw of this game is the power , not having to struggle to get through the tutorial phase of the game

[oblique sequoia]

And it's in how you wanna play the game, too. Want higher damage output? You can mod for it. Want more kill efficiency? You can mod for that, too. Wanna just nuke a whole room? You have the option to

[red holly]

if I wanted to nuke I would be nuking, but I prefer to play my way

[oblique sequoia]

Same

It's why I make unorthodox builds to begin with

[glossy violet]

the steel path difficulty spike is a cliff tbh

[red holly]

I enjoy finding less popular weapons and making the most off of them

[oblique sequoia]

Ikr

[glossy violet]

forces you to strap up and pay attention

[red holly]

it is, for sure

[jovial crater]

What Ever you guys just dont get it, I just wanted a extra difficulty when i was completing star chart to actually have a challenge, it would just be an optional difficulty to give some players what they would like a challenge before going to steelpath to have a proper challenge, the optional difficulty would make the gap from normal to steelpath not such a huge cliff, rather would ease players into it.

[oblique sequoia]

And we're telling you that that will split public squads and be a detriment to everyone involved

It's hard enough to find pubs in some missions to begin with

[dark cedar]

It's what they call "power creep"
New content is more difficult, but adds stuff to make it easier, which makes old content feel easy. No real solution to this, apart from the MR requirements, which is kinda ignored when it comes to prime warframes. I dunno why they removed the prime warframe MR requirements tbh
They could also add MR requirements to some mods or increase them for specific weapons, but that would probably also make a lot of players quit

[oblique sequoia]

We don't need it to be harder

What we need in Warframe specifically is for it to be fun

I'm starting to agree with the other people here, you may beed to put the game down and play something else

[dark cedar]

If you want it to be harder, then literally just take off all your mods and go in barebones.

[oblique sequoia]

Your frustrations will just burn you out

[rich valley]

its not practical. even 1999 enemies already almost level 100, whats there the need for earlier nodes to have harder difficulty?

[hollow cradle]

Black Desert will give a worthy and long grind with hard content xD

[red holly]

I think he doesn't want to do it because that would be like an arbitrary challenge

[jovial crater]

normal star chart not mid game stuff

[dark cedar]

He wants to make the game easier by modding, but still wants to have a challenge.

[umbral fulcrum]

why do peeps keep suggesting arcane aegis over barier o.o

[dark cedar]

1999 is not even close to mid-game

[umbral fulcrum]

aegis seems so much worse than barier lol

[rich valley]

its in normal mode.

[hollow cradle]

just different preferences

[red holly]

the game doesn't really have an end game because the end game is open ended

[jovial crater]

The whole point of warframe is to mod, why mod if the game is already too easy at the start?

[red holly]

so everything might as well be mid game until you say "I'm done"

[oblique sequoia]

Because Warframe is a power fantasy

I don't understand why you're confused

You'll eventually get to the difficult content you're looking for anyways. Why not just enjoy the ride?

[rugged shore]

Frankly the same issue will just pop up in steel path, at a certain point it becomes "too easy" again

The point of this game is to mass murder troops as fast as possible, its not going to stay challenging even up in SP

[dark cedar]

The whole point of a game, such as warframe, is to have FUN.

[red holly]

I think he just doesn't enjoy the game

[glossy violet]

you want a different game or 2014-2017 warframe

[rich valley]

the whole point of warframe is not just modding for others. Some want to decorate, some want play with friends, other might be just there for the fun.

[red holly]

because he looks for something in the game that the game doesn't have because of power creep which is a natural progression of the game that was released 13 years ago

[willow bluff]

Play the Guilty

Warframe's new mode

[red holly]

more mechanics, more weapons, more mods meaning you have more options than an average player is stronger than a player 10 years ago or so

[glossy violet]

"i beat zariman with valkyr with barely any mods in my melee" yeah thats because she was reworked to be the strongest melee frame next to kullervo recently

[rugged shore]

Do we have any info on that other than that it exists?

[willow bluff]

It's difficult.

[glossy violet]

try loki. banshee. unmod your equinox

[red holly]

all we know that there is some way to unlock it but we don't know how

[willow bluff]

That's it.

[dark cedar]

Some people just wanna get through star chart to get to new content and play with higher level friends faster, why should others suffer because of this? It's an MMO, a game for a community.

[oblique sequoia]

That's what I'm trying to say

[jovial crater]

how would you suffer with a optional difficulty?

[rich valley]

from the stream, it probably 3 modes at once

[willow bluff]

Probably gonna be another hard mode bosses set.

[dark cedar]

Less public lobbies, which would lead to less player interaction

[fair ibex]

people have already said, you split the player base therefore making it harder to find full squads when playing pubs

[oblique sequoia]

Oh no... I haven't even beaten one of them yet

[red holly]

it's because the frames are being balanced for the later game content, not early star chart

[willow bluff]

Too bad, they have a newfound obsession with those.

[oblique sequoia]

Oberon Rework says hi

[willow bluff]

Don't talk about balance.

It's all over the place.

[oblique sequoia]

I tried The One in Effervo... I was humbled rather quick despite taking my best loadout

[dark cedar]

True, they want every warframe to be viable late-game. Which adds so much more variety and fun to the game, I can't blame them for it.

[red holly]

they don't succeed every time, I'll give you that

[rugged shore]

Disabling abilities just makes them gimmick bosses anyways, not a fan of that design philosophy

[oblique sequoia]

One OP Warframe is boring. I want variety 😭

[rich valley]

they are adding one more

[glossy violet]

she has +300% melee damage out the ass. you try bringing loki there

[willow bluff]

I did it first try, sweating nervously.

I was using oberon's 20 minute bleedout bug to cheese it.

Until 20m wasn't almost enough

[oblique sequoia]

[willow bluff]

It was my fault to bring tenet cycron

[dark cedar]

Which one is that?

[willow bluff]

Should've brought Grimoire like a peasant

[oblique sequoia]

The Murmur boss in Sanctum. In SP if you collect 60 eyes instead of 30 you fight The One

[willow bluff]

"Octipede boss" they say

[dark cedar]

aah, yeah, I did that one, took me two tries with my wisp
It's pretty fun though

[willow bluff]

Hard Mode

[hollow cradle]

For the Fragmented One, if you have lag, you are going to need more luck than skill to get it done.

[oblique sequoia]

I had no lag, I just died instantly LMAO

[willow bluff]

On the contrary, reducing FPS to single digit bypasses attenuation.

The lower FPS u have the higher dmg u deal

[rich valley]

the slideshow?

[hollow cradle]

Is a pity it takes so long to get to the 60 eyes boss

[oblique sequoia]

To be fair, I was doing decent damage to it, I was just squishy

[red holly]

damage per second is calcualted differently because you have less frames per second?

[willow bluff]

Story of every game

No developer can untie damage from FPS

[red holly]

I've heard of games calculating stuff using FPS but I've thought that's old games thing... oh right warframe is an old game

[willow bluff]

There are certain irrevocable things present

[red holly]

it's probably somewhere at the foundations of the game, changing that would break the game

[willow bluff]

Like host migration bugs

[red holly]

and I've thought modern warfare host migration was miserable

then warframe released

[rich valley]

i still remember where you can transference out and you phase through a wall in void mot. you can shoot the enemies but they cant shoot you back becoz you in the wall.

[glossy violet]

good ol "if your fps is above 25 friction just refuses to work" "you have to lock your fps to 30 or ragdolls will windmill and scripts will just refuse to work"

battlefield bad company 2 had this disease, game breaking bug RIGHT at the end unless you cap your fps

[red holly]

didn't see any problems when I was playing bad company 2 16 years ago or so

not like I had a fast enough PC

I know GTA 4 worked much differently depending on what's your FPS cap

[glossy violet]

with fps over 60 or smth the part where you fall off the plane and have to shoot the guy is bugged; guy wont die and will just stand in mid air until it fails

last last mission before the end
asides from that ragdoll physics get really jank

[red holly]

wasn't fire rate also capped depending on your FPS in warframe?

[glossy violet]

i feel like it is. i know my phenmor incarnon occasionally dips in fr for no reason

i have a p garbage rig

[red holly]

me too, I am playing at capped 60 FPS

[dark cedar]

Pretty sure, yeah, it's extremely noticeable in steel path cascade, when there's a crap ton of effects

[gilded canopy]

Do I sell the warframe for spot or is there other thing to do with them?

[dark cedar]

You'll be able to subsume them, to put their abilities on other warframes so I would recommend buying slots

[foggy moat]

^

[gilded canopy]

don't understand what that meant but thanks , I will have to leave them like that I guess

[dark cedar]

I just keep one of each

[foggy moat]

Eventually you can feed them to your ship so you can use one of their abilities on another warframe

[gilded canopy]

feed the ship ?

[dark cedar]

You'll see later into the game, you'll be able to basically "sacrifice" the normal warframe to take it's most valuable ability and you'll be able to put it on other warframes

[red holly]

we are going into spoilers territory

[rich valley]

it means there will be a segment in your ship that can dissolve those frames and take one ability that you can put to any warframe

[pure gulch]

when you reach rank 3 with the entrati faction you can buy a thing called helminth, and then you can "feed" the base frames to there

[dark cedar]

Just keep em xD

[foggy moat]

That's the tldr

[dark cedar]

We don't wanna spoil it too much for you

It's worth keeping them until then

[gilded canopy]

this?

[pure gulch]

yeah

[dark cedar]

Yes

[gilded canopy]

oh so I just do bounty to lvl them up?

and scrafice the warframe to them?

[dark cedar]

Yep, you need to use the tokens to get standing

[red holly]

it's a little bit more complicated with that particular sindicate

[rich valley]

you do bounties to get token, then the token can be exchange to level

[foggy moat]

Unrelated, still messing around with Mag and man, 350% range magnetize feels like a crime lol (305 +45 on augment)

[gilded canopy]

oh

[red holly]

you have to get the tokens by doing activities, then you use those tokens to exchange for the standing

[dark cedar]

Yup, rip armor

[red holly]

or exchange those tokens for the most valuable tokens which grant you even more standing

[gilded canopy]

oh ok

thanks for all the answers

[dark cedar]

You exchange the tokens at grandmother fyi

[foggy moat]

I'm torn between whether I wanna use the arcane helmet or not. On one hand, going past 280% range feels illegal yet very funny to me, but in the other hand, only one arcane slot is kinda cheeks

[red holly]

yes, grandmother, and grandmother tokens grant you the most tokens but to get them you have to exchange the tokens from others

[dark cedar]

Depends on what arcane you're running

I honestly think having one arcane blessing is enough for most frames

[foggy moat]

Using Molt augmented rn because I dont have the spare red shards to hit 130 strength rn

Since I dont wanna use blind range and tank my energy economy

[dark cedar]

Fair, fair

Wish you could trade shards

[foggy moat]

Ikr

[dark cedar]

I have so many to spare

[foggy moat]

Hmm, I can take the red off my nidus ig

Since i'm not using him atm

[dark cedar]

Do you have deep archimedia unlocked?

[foggy moat]

I do

[dark cedar]

Once you start doing those, you can really stack up on archon shards

I get like 8 from those every week

[foggy moat]

I don't run them as often as I should tbh

And I haven't even attempted temporal archimedia yet

[dark cedar]

Temporal is easier than 1999 imo

Easier missions and enemies

[foggy moat]

I would have expected the opposite

[glossy violet]

ONE qol change i will beg is to take that "thank you for your purchase!" screen away

its an unecessary 3-second delay on something i already consider pretty damn tedious

kind of like getting your sleeve stuck on a door handle when you're in a bad mood

[dark cedar]

Trueeee

Would be very nice

Buying those tokens one by one is the most annoying thing in the game lol

[oblique sequoia]

Finally building the Amesha and the Itzal. My poor Nitain stock on the Amesha

[dark cedar]

Well, there's not a lot of things to build with it, thankfully

[oblique sequoia]

I'm just glad Nora Night is here

[willow bluff]

Worth it.

[dark cedar]

Nora is a baddie
I wonder if we'll see her in a quest sometime later on fully

[rich valley]

i legit thought the radio lady in john wick is nora night. becoz of the resemblance

[willow bluff]

The similarity was too much!

[willow bluff]

Ok so a quick search reveals it that both are likely reference to "The Warriors"

[oblique sequoia]

Nora Night has some of the best voice lines in the game. I'm so glad we're still getting new ones

"Was in love with a man once. Face of an angel... Morals of a chainsaw!"

[rich valley]

oh? is it a movie?

oh it is a movie. 1979

thats an oldie

[willow bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/the-warriors-singing-radio-mic-speaking-on-mic-gif-11961401

[willow bluff]

Origin of Nora Night

[fair ibex]

im building amesha as well rn 🙂

[lofty garden]

best archwing

[fair ibex]

i enjoyed the itzal as well

not the bigest fast of the ... other one lol

[lofty garden]

itzal is more niche

[fair ibex]

but i g u want blast damage to make use of its augment

[lofty garden]

invis while flying and not shooting would be a big upgrade

[fair ibex]

oh god that would be sick

[lofty garden]

but flying revenant is the best we have

[fair ibex]

amesha is bascially invun right?

[lofty garden]

as long as the little things are orbiting you, yes. Works similar to Revenant's Mesmser skin

[fair ibex]

how am i doing this when i have a 10 cap mag? lol

[lofty garden]

Multishot

[fair ibex]

ahh ok

i didnt think

[lofty garden]

Takes two or three pulls of the trigger.

[fair ibex]

it has ms as its base right ?

[lofty garden]

Just pile on all the multishot mods.

[red holly]

oh crap I haven't realised I've got a 170 plat weapon part

[lofty garden]

170 plat, for now...

that'll all change March 25.

[fair ibex]

sell sell sell

[red holly]

lato vandal is going to come back?

I mean what is going to happen march 25

[lofty garden]

They mentioned in the devstream they are going to adjust the drop rates for a bunch of weapons. Braton and Lato Vandal were mentioned specifically.

[fair ibex]

galv hell should be enough right? if i just stack it up while waking the angel

[red holly]

oh crap I'm selling it then

before people realise

[karmic lily]

so is the melee weapon nepheri any good?

[red holly]

I think it's okay, haven't used it myself

[red path]

it looks cool and have a special attack, but its stats are average iirc

[lofty garden]

with galv hell, my ms is 8.4

[red holly]

is that with primary overcharge?

[lofty garden]

hell’s chamber and vigilante armaments will get you higher

[cosmic kindle]

Do you think follies fake defense target is better than Loki decoy

[red holly]

during defence mission? I think so

because all enemies will be heading to the defence target, most likely to the closest one

but I don't know the cooldown on it

so decoy might be better, and I don't know the duration, we don't know enough

[lofty garden]

hell’s chamber and vigilante armaments gets you to 11.2, before primary overcharge

so two headshots will finish the evolution challenge

[red path]

I can foresee a bug that makes you lose defense mission if folle dummy target gets killed

[karmic lily]

i think the duration of everything was like a minute with 30 sec cooldown but that'll propably be changed when she comes out

[red holly]

I can see that happening

[lofty garden]

gather all your faction medallions so you can make your faction tour to get the new per-faction items with the next update

[red holly]

but what if the defence objective is an NPC

[radiant dune]

guys what is the best progenitor element for tenet cycron ?

[cosmic kindle]

I’m assuming it’ll match based on mission which just makes me sad seeing Loki gets overshadowed again

[karmic lily]

btw how many quantas there will be in the game now that we will have tenet quanta?

[red path]

my guess, there is usually an invisible usual defense objective that just gets killed when operative dies

[red holly]

quanta, quanta vandal, mutalist quanta (if we count that one), tenet quanta

mutalist quanta is technically a different weapon

[red path]

there is also prisma? or I thinking about different weapon

[red holly]

I think you are thinking of quanta vandal

[cosmic kindle]

I have feeling there’ll be a 4 squad of follies afk blocking a door in survival making more oxygen so they do nothing

[oblique sequoia]

There's a Quanta Vandal???

[karmic lily]

ok i though that there were more... now we have to wait for coda mutalist/proboscis cernos

[red holly]

yes

[oblique sequoia]

This game has so many weapons istg

[red path]

because no-damage-on-defense-objective rivens can be completed with such operative defenses even if operative takes damage

[red holly]

coda proboscis cernos would be amazing

[karmic lily]

i think there is like 800 atm

[red holly]

but probably will have ammo efficiency issues

[wild vale]

is it possible to invigorate 2x in the same warframe ?

[karmic lily]

including archwing

[rich valley]

nope, already tried it

[radiant dune]

guys please ?

[wild vale]

sad

[red path]

it's probably possible to execute invigoration, but I think new one will just override old one, never tried myself though

[cosmic kindle]

Do you have to wait 7 days for new invigoration selections?

[cunning merlin]

is the game on maintenance? since i cant log in

[red path]

I use heat

[red holly]

I think coda arum spinosa would be a very nice new weapon to get

[glossy violet]

i log in fine

[radiant dune]

ok ty

[rich valley]

nope still cant, you still need to wait for the old invigoration to expire

[karmic lily]

i think it depends on the build, i didn't use tenet cycron myself but i think heat/toxin would be the best

[cunning merlin]

i cant log in and when i go to forget password it says account not found

it says unknown account??

[red path]

maybe wrong e-mail

[red holly]

are you pressing the "login through steam" button?

if you haven't connected the warframe account with the steam account you will get the account not found error

[karmic lily]

btw which tenet weapon should i get i only have arca plasmor

[red path]

envoy is fun, also cycron, glaxion, plinx

[cunning merlin]

does that mean i cant log in anymore since i cant anymore

[cunning merlin]

its right it just wont log in anymore

[wild vale]

depends on your build, but do not worry about this because with the 1999 update you can easily just change progenitor

[red path]

try loggin in on warframe.com website

[red holly]

yeah, sure, easily, forma the weapon 5 times first

[wild vale]

yeah, you dont need to hunt weapons now to change progenitor

[cunning merlin]

not working too

[red path]

it's faster to hunt 5 forma

[hollow cradle]

but to change progenitor element without farming another weapon, adversary weapon needs to be rank 40

[trim bobcat]

But crafting? Oh boy

[red path]

check your email account, did you receive any mails from warframe? maybe your account got suspended, or hacked

[red holly]

I think it's actually easier to just hunt the lich/sister with the right progenitor then fuse to get the right element

[hollow cradle]

ideally you should be farming and building one forma a day anyway

[cunning merlin]

mail is fine i just cant log in anymore

[red path]

we can't help you then, try #support-and-bugs

[cunning merlin]

yeahhhh

[hollow gull]

hi everyone im new i started yesterday if anyone can gimme something i dont mibnd or if someone have something to help me my user is EmileVrd

[red holly]

you are trying the generosity of our community

[trim bobcat]

Wait, how do you use Oxylus to gather plants during a capture mission?

[hollow cradle]

we can help you buy telling you how to play the game and farm everything you need.

[red holly]

shouldn't that be automatic as long as oxylus is in range?

[rich valley]

botanist mod. it will scan the plants. but you have to walk slow

[trim bobcat]

Well, I hope it doesn't skip scanning one as I am running fast

[trim bobcat]

I have the mod

I am just making sure I am not skipping one

Judging by what you said, I guess I shouldn't use Volt speed anyways

[rich valley]

it will took around 2-3 seconds for it to scan plants, so running fast probably not a good way to go

[trim bobcat]

I will take it slow then

[cosmic kindle]

I wish oxylus could scan on its own with duplex bond

[red holly]

duplex bond is strong, but also limited

[cosmic kindle]

Yeah it can’t use abilities

There were a few times I grabbed the materials as it finished scanning and got 2 for the one plant that was cool but hard to do

[red holly]

I wonder why Venari can't use duplex bond

[trim bobcat]

Nah, the players would abuse it all day

[gilded canopy]

why is this happening? intentional?

[trim bobcat]

The devs are smart for not implementing it on Oxylus

[rich valley]

different language characters

[red holly]

that would be too efficient

[glossy violet]

chinese/japanese characters dont render in en client

[cosmic kindle]

They only useful for Titania farm tho and some of those rare mods yeah nvm u right

[wild vale]

asia server
they talking in korea / chinee

[trim bobcat]

Also, I just realized

[wild vale]

you dont have the text format in your computer

[red holly]

might be a missing font issue

[trim bobcat]

I hit the day 50 for my account, and I was given three rare login rewards

[red holly]

or region settings issue on your PC

[wild vale]

no its missing font / language pack

[gilded canopy]

oh

[trim bobcat]

Imminent Eclipse Cache
Awakened Luna Cache
Eternal Stasis Cache

[karmic lily]

f*ck i was wondering why the parbos sister didn't appear and i just remembered that i have coda lich already

[cunning merlin]

wow when i reboot my pc i autologged in and i can log in my account now...

[trim bobcat]

Which one should I take?

[red holly]

I don't remember which one was which from the top of my head

[cosmic kindle]

Didnt they remove ability for simaris scanner to pick up 2 plants per scan?

[red holly]

one was like warframe exilus mod, some other one was orokin reactor I think?

[gilded canopy]

but Im in asia too

[karmic lily]

weren't they like the same except for a different booster?

[red holly]

isn't chat you are in tied to the game's language?

not the matchmaking region

[karmic lily]

and different sigil?

[gilded canopy]

oh

[wild vale]

yes your missing font / language pack korean / chinese / tw / arabic

[red path]

just take which you want/need/can use now, since booster activate the moment you take it, you'll have a choice again at day 150 iirc

all milestones will retain unclaimed rewards for the next similar milestone

[trim bobcat]

So other options will be saved for the next milestone?

[red path]

yes

[trim bobcat]

In that case, i will take the catalyst one

i have 6 reactors, and i am not in need for another exilus/credit booster yet

Also, we have events with catalyst and reactor bp

[light sequoia]

Do shooting void Armageddon angels count towards Laetum evolution?

[fallen star]

on the 4th evo of my okina incarnon, whenever i get to 10x combo, it doest increase the progress of the evolution, is there anything i have to do to get it to work?

[normal stirrup]

catalysts are more useful than reactors in general because you will have more weapons than warframes

[red path]

they are different types of angels, so if it don't say which type, it should work

[wild vale]

i am also in asia but i switch to NA because they mostly talking in their own langauge / chinese / kr / jp etc . . . whcih you cannot understand them unless you know how to speak their langauge

[red path]

I remember it was counting this one strange way, I just unequipped all galvanized and tennokai mods and had to play for a somewhat long time in sp survival to finish it, idk why it didn't count reaching 10x combo sometimes (quite often actually)

[lofty garden]

you want to get the combo fast, but you want the combo to disappear fast as well.

so you want mods that rapidly increase combo, but you do not want mods that extend the combo duration

That's the problem I ran into. I took off all the combo duration mods, put on ones that had a negative impact on duration, ones that boosted combo count, and then it was easy.

[red path]

there is perk on okina to get combo fast, but sometimes it just didn't get me a count for the evolution challenge

[lofty garden]

also, infested since they'll swarm you

and arcane resistance for the fart protection

[fair ibex]

i still need to farm my okina prime 🙁 i got the relics at leastr

[red path]

garuda is best since she can easily spread slash

[lofty garden]

At least it is only one rare, two uncommon, and two common

the dual rare blade ones are a bear

[trim bobcat]

True

[fair ibex]

yeah i got the others and i got a bunch of the reclis that drop the rare so i just need to stop being lazy

[trim bobcat]

Why do I feel like I fight better when I put on the fashion frame?

[normal stirrup]

the psychological factor

[red holly]

once I put some random cosmetics to make my Inaros fashion look like I'm LR5 player I feel stronger already

[red path]

I just don't see half of the screen (including aim reticle) when I put on fashion frame

[cosmic kindle]

I have trouble seeing on hildryn as is idk how people would put wings or something crazy on her

[red path]

and when I aim up with gyre I can't see anything

[cosmic kindle]

Oh and zephyr was bad with wings imo. It got annoying with the agile stance too lol

[oblique sequoia]

God, I remember farming for the Quassus Prime...

Worth it, tho. It's a lot of fun

[coarse basin]

The thing is, you don’t really need to see

cuz yk
hildryn

[red holly]

I wonder how will Follie fashion look like

[glossy violet]

must be why none of the hildryns i play with run the f objective

none of them can see it

[coarse basin]

based on the stream, her ink doesn’t look very good in most colors

[cosmic kindle]

The blood ephemera could be ink dropping from follie

[coarse basin]

right… that’s why…

[red holly]

I've meant in how much space will Follie take on screen with fashion

[glossy violet]

id say close to grendel or hildryn?

[cosmic kindle]

Ngl I don’t like the ink cankles follie has

[red holly]

the ink alone makes her design very... busy

[cosmic kindle]

Hope we can toggle it off like xaku skin

[red holly]

I can imagine those being attachments

[silk arch]

So...
My Valkyr prime Talons is Missing the Exilus Slot

[red holly]

it would be kinda stupid if you had to attach stuff to the ink and not her legs

[junior solar]

No console near A, can't interect with B

what am I supposed to do here?

[cosmic kindle]

If this is profit taker phase 3 you shoulda payed attention to the fortuna squad chat they mention vent c7a u enter a vent in a different building to get to A

[junior solar]

Did listen to it, thought it was just yapping

[cosmic kindle]

You heard it but weren’t listening is what it sounds like especially if ya call it yapping but yeah boon is annoying

[lofty garden]

kids these days can’t even listen

[cosmic kindle]

Rigged it askew…. Just for you

KURODONS

AYYY LADY MATEY

[trim bobcat]

That's why we don't wear capes

[fair ibex]

bro 🙁

[red holly]

not all syandana are wide

[cosmic kindle]

It should’ve marked a different building also. You start with a and not b

[normal stirrup]

Easier than it seems

[rugged shore]

Just get the other zariman weapons its worth

[red holly]

remember the zariman weapons count as incarnon weapons

[fair ibex]

dude i didnt even think of that

thanks guys ❤️

[lofty garden]

alphabetical order is new for some

[fair ibex]

any recommendations?

[cosmic kindle]

Which weapon is this challenge on for first

[fair ibex]

this is for felarax

so i need secondary + mele

[normal stirrup]

Yeah just get the praedos and the laetum

[red holly]

felarx/phenmor for primary, laetum for secondary, praedos for melee

[fair ibex]

cheers team

i only need 1 more item for my okina tbf i should probably just get that ?

[normal stirrup]

Also works

[strong field]

Guys,real quick... What do you think is Follie's subsume

[red holly]

1

[sullen hound]

can i do story quest with other players?

[glad tusk]

1 or 3

[normal stirrup]

Probably her 1

[strong field]

That would go straight to Vauban jahahahahahab

[cosmic kindle]

What is her subsume

[red holly]

we don't know

[strong field]

Not yet revealed

[fair ibex]

the laetum is really good right?

[glad tusk]

Her 1 would be universal status cleanse

[strong field]

Just guessing

[red holly]

laetum is strong, yes

[cosmic kindle]

Oh u mean which you replace

[glad tusk]

Ye

[fair ibex]

awesome , now i just gotta wait for building!

[strong field]

Oh like on Vauban? Which I would replace an ability for Vauban?

[normal stirrup]

Molt already is a subsume

[glad tusk]

True

[cosmic kindle]

I imagine her ballon’s would be the subsume

[red holly]

her 1 would be a better mobility tool than molt though

[strong field]

Though I like her kit tbh.... I just.... Ehhhhh

[red holly]

all molt does is give you movement speed

[strong field]

Fck it Ill farm her when she is oit

[red holly]

well, it depends if you want movement speed or a "blink"

[cosmic kindle]

Isn’t her 1st just rolling guard

[red holly]

kind of

[normal stirrup]

Pretty much

[red holly]

it's not just a cleanse but cleanse and invulnerability

[normal stirrup]

Not that big

[cosmic kindle]

One thing that makes her better than Loki he needs a augment to do the same

[fair ibex]

Follie looks amazing i think

[red holly]

hot take: she would look better with less ink

[trim bobcat]

Who is Follie?

[cosmic kindle]

Follie could pull off a 60s disco look with the ankle tassels

[red holly]

Follie is an upcoming new frame

[cosmic kindle]

She needs a Afro helmet tho

[red holly]

imagine super jump ability comes back but it comes with a slam radius buff

[cosmic kindle]

Super jump needs to be subsumed as a passive so it could be used in social zones

I had invigoration jump work in social zones

[red holly]

I can imagine it coming back as a generic subsume

[trim bobcat]

Anyone has link to her gameplay?

[cosmic kindle]

It’d just be funny to jump in social zone and hit the ceiling

[red holly]

watch last warframe stream

[cosmic kindle]

Watch the warframe latest YouTube vid

[strong field]

I don't really focus on the appearance on the frame but the Kit.... I like Follie bc it reminds me of one character who manipulate ink (though not really but it looks like it)

[timber violet]

Wich frame can i use to "cheese" the mirror defense with eroding senses this week eda? Been doing it vrazy often but its literally impossible for me to do with all modifiers.
So ill just change the frame and loose out on the vosfor.

[red holly]

@trim bobcat https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2709262940?t=00h35m23s

[strong field]

A8ght gtg!

[trim bobcat]

Thank you

[timber violet]

Does citrine dr reduce the damage of eroding senses?
Or if i use mage to give it shield, will eroding senses take the shield instead or keep hurting the health of it?

[cunning merlin]

how do i use archwing in a free roam map?

[red holly]

they shoot keep the infinite ammo and thermian rpg combo

[lofty garden]

archwing launcher on your gear wheel

[cunning merlin]

bad question from me idk what taht is

[cosmic kindle]

Dang idk how new players do get free roam archwing nowadays I had to join clan get launcher segment and stuff now it’s easier right?

[red holly]

it's what you need to use archwing in a free roam map

[lofty garden]

in your arsenal, go to gear wheel and add to it. see if you have the archwing launcher

[normal stirrup]

Yeah now you get it from completing The Archwing quest, much better

Should've been like that from the start

[coral frigate]

Atomicycle is da best

[cosmic kindle]

It was complicated sure but hey it encouraged clan joining idk lol

[normal stirrup]

It was a time and resource gatekeep for basically no reason

[cunning merlin]

oh forgot about that

[cosmic kindle]

I only ever used the first we get and itzal and never swapped off 1 cuz not enough slots 2 cuz I heard its fastest

[lofty garden]

remember when they were single-use charges? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[rich valley]

oh when did they change this? i didnt encountered it when i joined

[coral frigate]

Wtf 106 launcher

[lofty garden]

Itzal is technically the fastest, but once they added blink to all archwings, Amesha became more useful as it's basically a flying Mesmer Skin.

October, 2018, they updated it. The blueprint used to make 50 at a time.

[cosmic kindle]

I like the invisibility and ability to pull loot to myself so I doubt even when I do build it for mr I’ll switch off itzal

[coral frigate]

Itzal prime when

[hollow cradle]

i use itzal for everything except RJ and PoE bounties. Amesha for RJ, and Elytron for PoE bounties

[normal stirrup]

Amesha is the best for bounties

Your 2nd can keep the defense targets alive

[hollow cradle]

its about personal preference

[lofty garden]

If we get anything archwing, it'll be when they revisit Railjack.

[cosmic kindle]

If i could hook stuff from further I might be able to out pace a railjack but that’s probably just in our dreams lol

[lofty garden]

but I don't think we'll see anything. They scrapped modular archwing ages ago.

[hollow cradle]

have never had a problem with that without using Amesha

[cosmic kindle]

That was a possibility

[lofty garden]

they showed it

the prototype for modular archwing is in a devstream somewhere

[hollow cradle]

yeah, DE showed it but didnt do it

few years ago

[cosmic kindle]

Was it like ability swapping or something?

[hollow cradle]

there are posts in warframe forums on it

[static sandal]

is nekros worth it

[hollow cradle]

all warframes are worth it. You will like some more than others.

[cosmic kindle]

I forget is atlas prime out rn?

[lofty garden]

in resurgence

[cosmic kindle]

I gotta get him soon maybe his loot frame capabilities are still good for Sedna endo farming idk tho

[hollow cradle]

[Endo] - Arenas on Sedna, Arbitration, RJ, Narmer bounties after completing [The New War] quest, Sortie, Maroo's weekly. Cambion Drift Bounties.

i never bothered with arenas for endo

[cosmic kindle]

I subsumed his normal version and tried to put it on Khora and nekros but idk they both squishy

[potent condor]

Do we have a release date for Shadow Grapher?

[cosmic kindle]

I’m thinking durability and his just simple garenteed drops will help endo farms

[radiant dune]

why is my endo like this ?

[glad tusk]

Big endo

[potent condor]

Updated model

[radiant dune]

its not always like this

[potent condor]

I think it changes between endo received via enemy drops and endo received via mission (caches, loot table, bounties, etc)

[normal stirrup]

Granum void does that

[potent condor]

Guessing it's meant to be all across but DE forgor

[lofty garden]

Modular Archwing shown at Tennocon 2019, Art panel: https://youtu.be/qpTxBqpSUiU?t=1022

[radiant dune]

thats why ty

[lofty garden]

tennocon live 2019 was also when they showed off empyrean (railjack)

[cosmic kindle]

Crazy someone said 3 years ago but this is 6 years ago. how time flies

[lofty garden]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/TennoCon/2019

all the panel videos are linked there if you want to see what Steve's original vision for Railjack included. Scarlet Spear was going to be a regular gameplay thing

[potent condor]

Waiting on a lot of Archwing changes. Like Bonewidow archmelee slot, more archwing models, more necramechs...

[lofty garden]

I'm not sure there are enough mood stabilizer drugs on the planet to deal with the PTSD that came out of Scarlet Spear.

[potent condor]

I don't remember what Scarlet Spear was ngl

[cosmic kindle]

I don’t know what scarlet spear is

[lofty garden]

the eight-man activity Operation that kept DE at their desks for a month straight.

[glad tusk]

Idk who or how, but someone got me 3 necramech slots..

[potent condor]

Worthless

[lofty garden]

Was the first time you could build out an R5 Energize without Eidolon Hunts.

[void otter]

is nikana prime actually viable in endgame? (like lvl cap or smth close to it)

[normal stirrup]

Bonewidow having archmelee slots would do nothing since they're all bad

[potent condor]

It's my most used melee soooo ye

[glad tusk]

Its just another light spam melee influence build

[normal stirrup]

If anything, her exalted archmelee is the best one

[red holly]

am I the only one that actually enjoyed scarlet spear?

even if stuff was breaking

[pure gulch]

i think 3 is just default which is funny in itself

[rich valley]

it was fun, its just my gun cant go beyond wave 10

i was a peashooter xD

[red holly]

you didn't use gun, you used a specific redeemer prime build

[void otter]

but like are its stats good? compared to other light spam melees (wishing they added an incarnon for it)