gameplay-discussion

[sour oxide]

You'll get them all eventually

[lofty garden]

dante is not in any bounty reward pools

[pallid canyon]

this looks miserable

[lofty garden]

It goes very quickly as the pity currency costs are low.

[lost geyser]

it is miserable

[sour oxide]

They go hand in hand there's no primed version to mods that have galvanized version

[chilly jungle]

nah

isn't that the old wiki 😭

[lofty garden]

In a decent Disruption run, you're on Rotation C from the third round, and can usually last 10-15 rounds total

No, the new wiki can be set to light mode.

[chilly jungle]

the disruption mission is fast anyway

[round ledge]

there is a bounty in the labs that puts u on that node, was wondering whether or not it matter if i go through teh bounty isntead of star chart

[lofty garden]

it’s not polite to use a bounty to farm Dante.

Bounties have fixed completion requirements. Dante requires sticking around for at least three rounds to start farming.

[short slate]

worth building?

its expensive as heck so i would hope its worth it

[dim leaf]

I'm being very indecisive...

[daring parrot]

Nothing really special about it but its pretty cool

It also has over leveling

[short slate]

overleveling??

[keen arrow]

like kuva

[daring parrot]

Oh actually wait there is something special about it

[round ledge]

right one

[daring parrot]

It has increased damage to sentients and removes their resistances

[short slate]

clearly im new and didnt know there was overleveling so saying kuva doesnt quite answer that..

[keen arrow]

what your MR(mastery rank)

[daring parrot]

Over leveling means with 5 forma the weapon can go to level 40

[short slate]

11 but im playing less than a month and havent cleared star chart and have only gotten through new war in story

and until yesterday, i thought arbitrations required using the champions listed. i didnt know that was a buff

[keen arrow]

so here plan

you dm me we hope on call and i help you out

[short slate]

oh sorry i dont have time for that at the moment. im bouta leave for work i just wanted to know if i should start that craft before i left or not

[sour oxide]

No

[daring parrot]

And the "kuva" they were taljing about was referring to kuva liches, or any adversary. There are these personal enemies that you can fight. Its a whole process to summon and defeat them

[keen arrow]

i wouldn't for right now

[sour oxide]

Its only for mr

[daring parrot]

If you defeat them you get their weapon

[short slate]

well i want to get to 12 so i can use some of the prime weapons i have all the parts for so i guess crafting it was worth? or should i cancel

[sour oxide]

It's a lot of resources so if you don't care go for it

[lofty garden]

MR30 is worth it.

[daring parrot]

Honestly if you want to, craft it. Its a cool sword

I really like how it looks

[short slate]

yea i didnt like the idea of all those ducats because it took a lot of grinding trash lith relics to get that so i cancelled

[lost geyser]

oh so its a forma thing and not anything else?

[lofty garden]

There is plenty in the game, though. You can skip over 30% of the gear in the game and still hit MR30.

They give you a loaner Paracesis when it is required in the game.

[dim leaf]

You sure?

[daring parrot]

It increases the capacity and gives you MR and for the paracesis it has that sentient killer effect apparently

[dire mesa]

i have some aya but i don't really know what to use it on

[lost geyser]

which prime frame do u want rn

[daring parrot]

Just save it for when you really want something from resurgence ig

[dire mesa]

caliban fs

[lost geyser]

mate imma be real with u u dont even need aya for that

but yeah just wait till u see something in resurgence that u like

[dire mesa]

he's dirt cheap if you mean from aya

i'm not really sure

[dire mesa]

alr sounds good

[lost geyser]

er no, his relics are normal drops

[dire mesa]

how do i check the current rotation

[lost geyser]

like just run any missions that drop relics and you'll eventually get a few with his parts

[lost geyser]

either varzia at maroo's bazaar (mars) or prime resurgence section of the market

[fair ibex]

how many relics of each type do you normally buyt when going for a prime?

[lofty garden]

10

[lost geyser]

1 at a time

and radshare

[dire mesa]

i just checked the market and calibans individuals part and not as a whole set, the guy goes for 24 😂

[fair ibex]

yeah cool

[lost geyser]

thats the best way to not waste aya

[fair ibex]

radshare is the way right? evryone has the same relic?

i got 100 aya , was thinking volt prime might be a nice investement honestly

[lost geyser]

yea

basically everyone has the same relic at radiant or whatever rank is best for the part ur looking for

which increases the chances especially for the gold drop

its basically getting chances of 4 aya relics for the price of 1

[fair ibex]

aight

still got 4 days till the reset for that right?

[lost geyser]

think so

[round ledge]

yes

[dim leaf]

Okay

[lost geyser]

i would say for radshares u might need to run a bunch of trash relic runs too just to keep the void trace count up

[fair ibex]

yeah i got a bunch atm been clearing out ( or trying ) my relic hoard lol

[lost geyser]

yeah so just run radshares 1 by 1 until u have everything u want from that relic

and then move on to the next

and if u run out of traces run trash relics

which frames u going for?

[idle fossil]

last run i got 6... the variance is wow

[pure gulch]

6-30 traces when you get 10th reactant iirc

also affected by boosters

[lofty garden]

double with a booster, double again with a pet mod, more if you stick around in an endless mission

[craggy crane]

Farming them is worst than orokin cells lol

[idle fossil]

and 12 this run 😄

just 700 more to go to cap out, i want to be prepped for next resurgence lol

[pure gulch]

if you run one even slightly longer endless fissure you'll likely cap out fairly quick especially if you have any boosters of your own

[lofty garden]

What happens when they throw in “open 10” as a nightwave act

[pure gulch]

like I have what 1600 or so cap at LR1 and usually if I do a 20 crucible alchemy fissure I get at least 1200-1400 back, granted I do have a booster running and usually keep smeeta with resourceful retriever as well

[lofty garden]

Alchemy is only good when you don’t need to shoot the pressure gauges.

[pure gulch]

its not that bad really

[lofty garden]

solo, maybe

if I am farming traces, I wait for a capture

[pure gulch]

even pubs, i usually just let the randoms shoot the pipes and it works out good enough

but I also don't run that specifically for traces though

[idle fossil]

its impressive how many people seem not to know how to handle that game mode. doing it in descendia is.. frustrating some times

[chilly jungle]

its boring

ngl i dont like objectives that make you wait unless its a defense one or survival 😭

[fair ibex]

probably gonna get volt prime, i know his good so not a bad bet i think

i dont need to bank my progress in circuit do i? like i just caryr on till i die for the most progress on the bar, not continuing doesnt really change anything/save anything?

[chilly jungle]

not having volt or nova for bounties ✌️😱

[fair ibex]

i have nova 🙂

nova is my main girl

its get volt or save my ao

[chilly jungle]

volt can do like 4 builds anyway

or more ✌️

but its primarly gun runner, melee and then support

[idle fossil]

i need to make one thats low range, high strength high duration for relic runs

though i dont know if the augment can do enough damage to just run through a room

[fair ibex]

yeah cool im gonna get him

[chilly jungle]

what frame

[idle fossil]

Volt

[chilly jungle]

you want range tho

unless you going for buffs only

[idle fossil]

buffs only, so i dont mess with the thermal sunder titanias i end up in runs with lol

[chilly jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sageyonce-gif-20853661

alr

what subsume then

[lament ravine]

So nightmare missions potentially have unique rewards right? Can you repeat the same mission over and over again?

[rugged shore]

no they are one and done

[warm glen]

okay, so i picked up 5 of each loki relic. what are the odds i can LFG a group for all of that together? and do i need to make them all radiant when for some of them i want the common reward? 💀

or am i just on the hunt by myself in pubs lol

i've only ever seen radshares for singular relics, i think

[idle fossil]

you can find a rad share for his gold im sure, silver less likely. and if you want a common i wouldnt radiant the relic

[warm glen]

right, i'm just wondering if anyone does like "X prime farm groups"

that way you know everyone's pulling from the same pool

assuming not, though, just the radshares

[idle fossil]

that im not sure, i havent done a rad share, i just took in what i was looking for and hoped for the best lol

[lament ravine]

Is there a way to know whether or not you've done one? It still shows up in the alerts list

[pure gulch]

they refresh every 8h

[lament ravine]

ty

[pure gulch]

they should disappear from your map when you've done em before the refresh

and if you play it in a squad with someone while having already done it then you just don't get the reward at the end

[lament ravine]

I'll note that

[chilly jungle]

tbh it would be easier if they just said what frame instead of the relics 😭

[gleaming silo]

I.. Am.. DISHEARTNED... My cavia standing is full but I can no longer pet my animals T_T

[lost geyser]

yeah i come across those on rec channel

[lofty garden]

buy all the vanguard relics

[lost geyser]

cant get them anymore no?

[lofty garden]

yeah, not part of last chance.

Guess you'll need to go get the time machine.

[daring parrot]

I grabbed 2 of each just for a little keepsake

[coarse basin]

5 million % strength, press 2

[storm laurel]

Anyone use gauss prime and can help with a build?

[chilly jungle]

does anytime you use a archgun with a necramech does it causes it to use its space stats instead of ground stats or nah

[daring parrot]

I had no clue there was a difference ngl

[chilly jungle]

idk if the difference is huge anyway 😭

[rugged shore]

The only time you get space stats is in actual archwing missions iirc

Everything else is grounded

[dim mirage]

Do I use nekros’s consecrate when the enemies are alive or on their corpses? The ingame description was unclear

[coarse basin]

yeah

[lost geyser]

its a chanelled ability i think

[coarse basin]

im the (self-proclaimed) gauss nerd

@storm laurel what kinda build do u want

[red path]

It's an aura that you just activate and it will loot corpses automatically

[dim mirage]

Ok so they have to be killed first

[lost geyser]

should i make cedo, trumna or vadarya p first

[rugged shore]

Man this gives me flashbacks to when desecrate wasn't channeled

[red path]

Better just activate it at mission start, especially if you have despoil

[rugged shore]

God nekros was awful

[wintry rampart]

if i want silver reward from relic, which upgrade should i do,

[lost geyser]

rad

[dim mirage]

Oh I see what you mean, like gloom on sevagoth

[rugged shore]

Radiant is highest chance for silver

[lost geyser]

still gives the biggest chance of the silver drop

[red path]

Yes, channeled means it's turn on/off ability

[dim mirage]

Ok I got it now thanks

[fair ibex]

i didnt realise it was a toggle ability and was just turning it on and off again lol

[rough violet]

would it be okay to ask about rivens here im new to the server

[coarse basin]

sure

not guaranteed that I can help but ill try

[rough violet]

Was wondering the price of this since ik arca titron rivens go for a lot and this seems really good to me

[coarse basin]

seems decent, similar listings with more stats are for 300 or more. maybe 200-250?

[rough violet]

Ight ty

[valid siren]

Does scanning kavats with helios's investigator still drop genetic codes?

[oblique sequoia]

I think so, but if I remember correctly the Helios will stop scanning after it finishes the Codex Entry for something

Unless there's a mod that makes it keep scanning

[fading oak]

Man, Uriel's Helminth is boring....Why not give us Gulphagor? We could have so many fun builds with the little guy...

[oblique sequoia]

And I don't remember if there is

[valid siren]

There's the one that scans for weak spots, idk if that drops codes either

[gray elm]

Can Teslas Nervos be buffed with stuff like Archane Aracne?

Or does it count as a weapon dammage?

[oblique sequoia]

I'm not sure about that one, too, unfortunately

But the regular Helios scans should work

If you have a frame that can put enemies to sleep, I recommend taking them to help out with scanning

Or bring Nora Night's Lullaby for your Air Support Charge if you have it

Cooldown's a little long for that one tho

[oblique sequoia]

They do count as ability damage. Is this for Tesla Bank?

[strong field]

It will be too op, Energy Generation and Health Generation would be intense and broken

[strong field]

From Vaubs, I think his 2 and 4 are the only "weapons" there... But on 2 I'm sure on 2 it's a weapon

[fading oak]

Honestly I think energy generation wouldn't even be a concern- we already have so many frames and sources that can restore and generate- even if you removed that function, I just want to have an injectable summon. I'd be fine if they removed the energy generation and just kept him latching to people and leaving fire on death.

[oblique sequoia]

I wonder if that's a suggestion to be had? Like they already nerfed the effect, they can probably also nerf the demons, too

[strong field]

Thing is, Uriel's demons are too op, that's why it's just removed

[oblique sequoia]

Honestly, I kinda agree with this

[fading oak]

If they're too OP, are you advocating a nerf?

[strong field]

Nope, no one is nerfing a frame here, they all rise up to be the best through reworks

[oblique sequoia]

No, they work fine with Uriel's kit. They'll be a bit much on other frames

[strong field]

Uriel is Op, Revenant is Lazy, Octavia is Op AND Lazy... Etc.

If Uriel is nerfed then 90% of frames should be nerfed as well hahaha

[oblique sequoia]

I take personal offence on Rev beng called lazy even if I agree 😭

I like him too much, I think

[strong field]

Uriel is good enough, just if subsumed his 2 to other frames, the Uriel's 2 was very powerful in its own way that frames who have it will be op as well

THAT'S uriel

[strong field]

Eh same with octavia but it's true tho hahahahahahah

[strong field]

Now buy his Mephisto skin

[oblique sequoia]

I just bought Vauban Heirloom, lemme let that sink in first

[strong field]

XDDDDD

Vauban heirloom is so beautiful!!!!!

[oblique sequoia]

Like SIR please

[strong field]

Damn he sexy as shit!

[oblique sequoia]

I KNOW

[strong field]

Color ful!

[oblique sequoia]

I tried my best to use attachments to highlight his musculature lol

[strong field]

Imagine if we can do a Mahoraga fashion on Vauban hahahahah

Idk if you know Mahoraga but yeah hahaha

[oblique sequoia]

Imagine if you can put Styanax's tassels on him lol

[strong field]

Hahahah

[tawdry lark]

When buying deluxe skins like Mirage's Oneiro, does it come free with the animation sets for use to other frames?

[oblique sequoia]

So I like my Vauban's damage output and mobility right now. My main issue is his survivability. I'm wondering if it's because I don't use Bastille enough?

[silver breach]

yes

[oblique sequoia]

The bundles should have the included items listed. If the animation sets are there, then yes

[silver breach]

I dont remember buying bundles for those skins

I just bought the skin, and the animations were just available to me

[oblique sequoia]

Can you use them on other frames?

[silver breach]

yeah

[oblique sequoia]

Oh interesting

I've never bought a skin with animation sets before

[silver breach]

I might be wrong, its been a while since ive bought skins with animations

[strong field]

Oooo Boi, there are a lot to survive with

[silver breach]

but I could have sworn I didnt buy bundles

[oblique sequoia]

My main issue is that I'm having a hard time deciding what to remove for the survivability I want 😭

[strong field]

Bastille is good but it may not be enough for higher frames

Peep this, he is a very spammable frame

Use 1 augur mod and a catalyst shield then your good

[silver breach]

Vauban imo is very survivable.

Tesla Nervos Stuns
Bastille and Vortex Stun
and he spams his skills like no one else, so he shield gates amazingly since youre using skills anyway

[strong field]

Let me see your builds

[strong field]

Yeah like 1 augur mod would be enough to recharge ur energy to make an active Shield gate

Just spam 1, or 2, low energy usavr

[cosmic kindle]

What does hildryn do when picking up energy orbs?

Nothing?

[frosty flint]

Truth nuker

[frosty flint]

Gives shield

[oblique sequoia]

Oh perfect... I bought an Exilus Weapon Adapter bp last night and didn't build it before sleeping. Yay

[cosmic kindle]

Is equilibrium good for builds for her?

[frosty flint]

Don’t bother building into energy at all you don’t need it. Just an interaction that happens

[strong field]

To be honest, he is a very active frame from all of the spam... A lot of people thought he is a Stationary frame

[oblique sequoia]

Maybe I just need to spam more abilities lmao

[strong field]

Yeah, put yellow tau shard or... Idk if you have space Natural Talent hahahha

[frosty flint]

Ngl he’s better semi-stationary as a caster

[strong field]

Hmmm... Yeah that would be great balance for Vauban

Semi active and semi stationary

[oblique sequoia]

He is very much not a stationary frame. Especially after the changes

[strong field]

Though I'm mostly an active Vauban user

[strong field]

Yup, you need to move and spam a lot

[oblique sequoia]

Vector/Overdrive just makes me wanna go everywhere lol

[silver breach]

even before the changes, I dont see vauban being stationary

[frosty flint]

I’d say semi stationary

[oblique sequoia]

I slotted Holster Amp on him, too so playing him is very VERY varied and fun for me rn

[strong field]

It's a good upgrade tbh, Increase Speed and Increased damage for how many durstion u have hahahah

[frosty flint]

Unless you photon spam everywhere which is even better now

Need a primer

[strong field]

I just subsume his nuke on config A for Omamori to have that added Comfy. A lazy survivability

Config C is where my spammy orbital strike came in

[frosty flint]

He does not need omamori ngl

[strong field]

I knoe, as I said, "Lazy Survival"

Being an active frame is tiring hahaha

[frosty flint]

I was running a few survivals to try him out and I literally just wouldn’t even get hit

[simple plank]

Vauban heirloom should have sandals or Geta

[oblique sequoia]

Oh btw, there's a bug with Vector Overdrive right now. When I throw it down sometimes it just doesn't show up. I think it's falling through the floor

[strong field]

Never had that problem

[oblique sequoia]

It's very infrequent

[strong field]

Nah he is good

[strong field]

If it's a bug then you know what it is.... It's a newly release moment sooooo

Bugframe

[oblique sequoia]

Yep LMAO

[strong field]

Aight I gtg

[lofty garden]

Uh oh… we may get moba in our third person shooter.

[frosty flint]

What

[strong field]

Cya tennos!

[oblique sequoia]

I didn't even notice he was barefoot. I was too focused on his upper half LMAO

[lofty garden]

Rebb’s confident enough to stream Deadlock

[gray elm]

Yes, I wanna try subsuming it on some frames and I am wondering what can buff it other than STR

[frosty flint]

De actually trying to figure out how much shit they can put in the game before people become more upset

🥀

[lofty garden]

I mean, you do have that small subset of people who want Trials restored.

[oblique sequoia]

Is the potential MOBA supposed to be their answer to everyone who's been wanting PvP content?

[frosty flint]

The big 3

[lofty garden]

Probably just an excuse to add a magician or something 🙂

[simple plank]

But is should be like the jacket. If you want it are not

[oblique sequoia]

If I can get Conclave standing on a type of game I play anyway (do not like Conclave rn) I'll actually be ok with it

I play Pokémon Unite ranked on pub, I should be ok

[oblique sequoia]

I would agree if we didn't already have the jacket variations which probably already took a bit of work

[worthy comet]

You mean the game critikal tore apart with the power of a credit card a few years back?

[oblique sequoia]

I haven't seen that vid lol

Kinda curious now, can you give me a rundown of that in DMs?

[worthy comet]

https://youtu.be/xyRFGxncuAk?si=ELKOgRtiWDLrZzkV

https://youtu.be/AAv6s3W--dc?si=IAoLVI5uc7dQ-ezi

[oblique sequoia]

Dude DMs, this is off topic

Let's get back on track

[worthy comet]

If we did get a moba mode in conclave it'd have to be pretty good

[oblique sequoia]

Right now I'm waiting for my spare Nokko to fully subsume so I can finally slot Brightbonnet on my Dante

[late vessel]

A Grineer vs Corpus type pvp would probably be better than what we have rn

[worthy comet]

Wait hold on you might be onto something

[oblique sequoia]

Omg

Also consider: a Sentient team

[worthy comet]

It's a perfect excuse to recycle Kahl and viko gameplay

[oblique sequoia]

Exactly!

Also put some respect on my man Velcro

[worthy comet]

Sorry I mean vega

[late vessel]

Maybe a battlefront style class selection where if you have enough points you can play as an eximus unit

[stoic kite]

Buff that Corpo kit, for Velmo..

[oblique sequoia]

Or you can have an Eximus effect as your ult

[late vessel]

rip Venmo

[oblique sequoia]

Stop disrespectful Teko

[stoic kite]

I could see them branching out three or four classes for grineer vs corpo pvp

[worthy comet]

why stop at eximus, let us play as a lich/sister

[oblique sequoia]

I know that the missions we do around the origin system are repeatable mostly for gameplay reasons so I really want like a clear rundown of how much damage we actually did running around

[worthy comet]

canonically we're probably liberating each area

[oblique sequoia]

I would like fissure missions in Höllvania, honestly...

[worthy comet]

honestly same

[oblique sequoia]

I remember Reb mentioning they're having trouble about what to do about that for lore reasons. But the discussion is active so maybe someday

She wants it, too apparently

[late vessel]

Fissure is caused by void, wally is void, wally went to hollvania, void is now there, fissure is now there

[worthy comet]

i guess that can work

[oblique sequoia]

I wonder if it can be like... A time fissure so it can tie in to Temporal Archimedia

[still wyvern]

Void needs to be there anyway for warframes to work no?

[worthy comet]

our void is enough to make that a non issue

[late vessel]

Well the void comes from us

[still wyvern]

Ok lore aside, void relics are in the stage defense drop table

[worthy comet]

hm, what if they made it so fissures happened at night in hollvania

[still wyvern]

You can find void relics in Hollvania, you should be able to open them in Hollvania

[oblique sequoia]

Time shenanigans

I think DE just doesn't want to be hand wave-y about it, which I respect

Tbh I'm just glad they're open about these things.

[lavish apex]

Its a primary source of power, so yes.

[oblique sequoia]

I think there's a portal somewhere in Höllvania that connects to the Untime Rift on Deimos

[worthy comet]

well...there was

not to deimos but there was a rift of sorts in hollvania till she left

[eager bone]

hmmm how do i get onslaught unlocked/

[worthy comet]

Complete the new strange quest

It's under side quests

[eager bone]

Thanks Avon!

[sacred elbow]

How many have to be analyzed to unlock Nokko parts I got 4 analyzed and some close

[placid vapor]

I’m kinda working on the Naramon tree, what are currently the best operator trees?
I was mainly using Madurai before I started working on Naramon

[strong field]

Analyzed?

[sacred elbow]

The mushrooms

[strong field]

Huh????? I may not be paying attention when getting nokko

[lost geyser]

They’re bounty drops aren’t they?

[sacred elbow]

Yes but there is a pity system built around analyzing mushrooms and collecting resources the drops are terrible after many hours I’ve gotten one I’ll rank up before for they all drop

[lost geyser]

Ohh ok

[frozen iron]

Since vauban and atlas prime are both coming to prime resurgence next, does anyone have any tips for farming aya? Or is it pretty much just “play the highest level bounties and buy relic packs”

[strong field]

Not the Highest level bounties

For me it's the fastest bounties with the highest chance of getting Aya

Cetus bounties are one of the fastest bounties out there

[oblique sequoia]

Oh you just need keep picking those up and giving them to Nightcap. The amount you need per level should be displayed there, too. If you have enough, the picture with have an exclamation point.

The type of mushrooms that spawn in the bounties depends on the kind of bounty

[wintry rampart]

how do i get on other side or how do i open door

[whole turret]

There was a strat witha specific deimos tier 4 bounties i think

[oblique sequoia]

There are 4 (i think) red valves you have to shoot that should be connected to that door. They're in fixed locations so once you memorize them you should have an easier time opening this. Personally, I've never done it

[jovial solstice]

I keep forgetting about something I'm planning on doing, so I still have these saved, lol

[sacred elbow]

Yes my original question was how many had to be complete to reach rank four ?

[oblique sequoia]

Like I said, the number you need should be displayed when you look at them on the menu with Nightcap

[wintry rampart]

different amounts

[wintry rampart]

its not that bad system tbh, i just dropped all 3 parts, 2x neuroptics, and still no bp, so maybe i will just buy it instead

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Nightcap
here is full list @sacred elbow

once u fully discover it lets u sell (compost) them for 1:1 fergolyte, so u can just buy rank ups too

[lofty garden]

so many dull buttons…

[willow bluff]

Press them.

[oblique sequoia]

Ok, I just got myself a Redeemer Prime and am now trying to properly learn this stance. Damn this thing is fun

But is there another Gunblade Stance? I kinda wanna try something other than High Noon

[chilly jungle]

can symbilyst spawn in orphix missions or is it only veil proxima ones

also how many hotshot yall think ima get

i got 4 ✌️🥹

[wintry rampart]

how do i link relic in chat

[oblique sequoia]

Congrats!

[oblique sequoia]

Here or in the game?

[wintry rampart]

in game

[oblique sequoia]

[relic] should give you a pop up

[chilly jungle]

im probably aint going to use it anyway

[wintry rampart]

ah

[round abyss]

question! for resource boosters, are they 100% double drops during their duration? and if so, does anything conflict with them when mining on the plains?

[oblique sequoia]

Nope. They affect everything not mod related

If you have other sources of boosting (like Loyal Retriever on your pet) they will stack

[round abyss]

oh, it was randomly not working for me out there. I'd get one or two boosted, then a few in a row just normal.

[oblique sequoia]

Oh it's not displayed when boosting

They just double all pickups

[round abyss]

OH!!!!! well.. i feel silly.

[chilly jungle]

welp i need a max out universal fallout if i want it to work better 💔

still better then energize tho 😭

[glossy violet]

dos anyone happen to know why 127 isnt a preferable amp for thrax killing? since i thought the 2 is a pretty large single target damage
or is it only for eidolons because of the punch through that hits multiple times

[oblique sequoia]

Nah you're good. The only one that really displays any boost is Loyal Retriever so you know it's activating. Which I have to say... Is a lot more often than I thought it would

[round abyss]

thanks!!

[glossy violet]

they make 13% bigger than it is ngl the power of statistics

[oblique sequoia]

Honestly lol

6 more hours before I can use Brightbonnet as a subsume... I'm so excited

[idle fossil]

you have decent luck on the 13% everything instead of the 18% resource?

[oblique sequoia]

Which one is for the 18%?

[idle fossil]

resourceful retriever

[chilly jungle]

does orphix even have good rewards 😭

[oblique sequoia]

Oh that just boosts drop rate

[oblique sequoia]

The 13% doubles the pick up

[idle fossil]

theres an 18% resource, an 18% credit, and a 13 % for both

[oblique sequoia]

OH

[idle fossil]

lol

i debated a while before just grabbing the resource one since the credits arent usually an issue

[oblique sequoia]

I just like seeing the x2 occasionally lol

[idle fossil]

me to. especially on void traces

[willow bluff]

4 toroids drop from Grofit Maker sure does bring a smile.

[oblique sequoia]

Oh so that's why I was getting a ton from time to time

[oblique sequoia]

Damn

Gimme

[idle fossil]

yeah i got a 122 to proc earlier.. it was so nice

[oblique sequoia]

The Sprodling on my Orbiter can activate the panel on my Railjack transporter???

[idle fossil]

that sounds.. adorable or terrible

[amber trench]

when I'm in a least helpful ally of all time challenge and my opponent is Nokko who only casts Stinkbrain:

[oblique sequoia]

It just makes the sides pop up. But little buddy, please stay here LMAO

[oblique sequoia]

Bruh

[cyan aspen]

man is it so much to ask for 4/4 in fissures

[idle fossil]

ok, adorable it is

[oblique sequoia]

4/4?

Oh a Radshare?

[chilly jungle]

does shedu not benefit from prime firestorm??

[lofty garden]

Wiki only lists the guns it works on. Shedu is not on the list

Oh, and notes it and two others at the bottom as not working

[cyan aspen]

no just a normal queue squad 😭

[oblique sequoia]

Oh yeah... I can't find any right now, too lol

[worthy comet]

Idk why I read that as normal queue salad

[oblique sequoia]

Someone's hungry

[cyan aspen]

checks out

[worthy comet]

I mean I guess if everyone is running different relics it could be considered a salad of sorts

[cyan aspen]

🥑

[worthy comet]

Ya got me

[oblique sequoia]

[chilly jungle]

bug or intended?

ykw i cant complain when the reload speed is 0.3 sec 😭

[lofty garden]

there are three weapons on the list, so probably intentional

[chilly jungle]

is it because the aoe nerf barely effects them or what 😭

[glossy violet]

they werent kidding that arbitration do be S-tier

74 essence in 23 mins is crazy

[idle fossil]

you got some good luck, whats the mission type

[chilly jungle]

did you minmax it or nah

[idle fossil]

Wow...

[glossy violet]

defense in a tiny tileset

[idle fossil]

still time to roll it, thanks for the heads up

and i brought the wrong companion.. LAME lol

[dim mirage]

Can you use any apothic to get growing power from silver grove or only the nighttime one

[idle fossil]

dont the specific apothics spawn specific spectres?

[dim mirage]

I think so. I haven’t done any before

[oblique sequoia]

You meed a specific one

Nightfall Apothic

[idle fossil]

need to find a weapon i like for arbs.. i love how hildryn blows up the world, kinda lame to have to operator switch for drones

[pallid talon]

run something that explodes, or something with infinite punch through

[glossy violet]

she madd

[idle fossil]

ill do some looking, not to versed in weapons

[lilac shell]

Is pazer good with dante?

[zealous swan]

which version of Lotus did you guys choose and why?

[willow bluff]

Yes

However, not in intended way

[willow bluff]

It's a lie about shedu, it's own page says about primed firestorm

[chilly jungle]

so it should be able to hit that 9-10m radius 😭

[idle fossil]

same time.. ive got 18 vitus 😄

[oblique sequoia]

#spoiler-chat

[oblique sequoia]

Depends on what you're doing tbh. Panzer is pretty good all around

[willow bluff]

It's a lie about Trumna as well

[willow bluff]

Nope

It's able to hit 28.8m radius

However, not on the regular fire

[idle fossil]

wave 30.. you got some GREAT luck

[willow bluff]

The pulse is affected by Primed Firestorm instead.

[worthy comet]

they also likely had a teammate with a resource booster

[willow bluff]

DE has coded blast radius mods such that if a weapon has 2 radial attacks then only the later gets the benefit from it.

[lilac shell]

I was in the process of building status noctua build

So was wondering if panza goes well with the build

[oblique sequoia]

Is it for Wordwarden?

If it is, I suggest putting Secondary Encumber on the Noctua if you have it

[chilly jungle]

how

[oblique sequoia]

Are you gonna be using it actively, btw?

Oh wait, I already asked that

[willow bluff]

Buddy keep reading

Put some pressure on ur mind.

[willow bluff]

It has a reload pulse.

[lilac shell]

Yes

I dont plan on subsuming his 1

I like him at base

I like mass extinction with book

[oblique sequoia]

Ok yes then definitely also mod for Fire Rate

[lilac shell]

Alr ty

[oblique sequoia]

I didn't mod Fire Rate on mine bc Wordwarden is based on your attack speed with other weapons

[oblique sequoia]

Since you're going for a Status Build, Arcane Impetus would be really good on Dante bc the Noctua procs that and it will boost the damage the more stacks you have (13 max, I think)

[lilac shell]

Ah alr

[oblique sequoia]

Do you have the Pistol Elementalist mod?

[willow bluff]

28.8m nuke:
https://youtu.be/sREgiGjxFgk?si=2QGcWLNjfIfubidi

[willow bluff]

Showcase:
https://youtu.be/Cgs0VVRF59g?si=nnaYbH_u46WTK2Jz

[lilac shell]

No

[oblique sequoia]

That's alright. You can get it later

[strong field]

Hi

Bye

[floral osprey]

do just want to add that while arcane impetus does have a higher level, if your building dante for archamedia there is a genuien use case of sloting molt augmented for a handful of reasons such as energy debuffs or situations where you care more about casting your abilities is rapid succession to keep you and your team alive over killing enemies (plus if you also just want to manage less stuff and just kill and have the flat 60% instead of a 70smthn% that fluctuates based on enemies killed and all that stuff)

[strong field]

Question, how strong is dante's 1 without the tomes?

[floral osprey]

you dont need tomes for his 1 to be strong

tomes are nice if you can fit them on but entirely un-needed to be good

[oblique sequoia]

Oh god the Tomes... I really want them but I can't find a squad who wants to stay long enough for them to drop

[strong field]

That's just hat I saw from most builds, they can't use 1 without tomes

[floral osprey]

i just gave up and bought the pack cuz one of the tomes or so costs like a significant portion of the price of the thing and i had that arldy so it was effectively like i think 80p cheaper (got it from a twitch drop i think)

[strong field]

Yeah see? Tomes seems to be very important for the Dante Book

[next quarry]

where do u get rime rounds

[oblique sequoia]

Yeah, I'm gonna trade for more plat to buy the pack, too.

I already decided that a while ago. I just have to get on it

[strong field]

I mean it's one thing why I subsume Dante

[oblique sequoia]

But tbh, they're correct in saying it's not really that necessary

But they're nice to have on there

[floral osprey]

incorrect, iirc they are "important" for the grimore not really for dante's 1 to be good.

primarily vome and xata for up to 60% strength and up to 10 energy a second for some builds but those are for supporting, dante's 1 excells and just flat out decking tf outa stuff with or without tomes

[strong field]

Thing is I cannot find a build that doesn't need tomes.... I might get Dante again but... Idk for what purpose any more hahahah

[floral osprey]

the grimore is a very good support weapon because its the only other weapon you can put a tome mod on, dante's noctua just has the benifit of being able to put all the tomes on which is more of a meme build then anything

[oblique sequoia]

Yes, but those are build recommendations. You can definitely find a setup that works well without them.

[floral osprey]

also the 2-3-4 combo puts a book on every teammate in range that does 50% damage (i dont remember their exact scaling but considering most of the important ones care about alt fire means they basically dont do anything from the 2-3-4)

[strong field]

Question is... Till where?

[floral osprey]

here or build discussions

[strong field]

No. No, till where... How high can it go

[floral osprey]

uh, i mean atleast up to elite arbitrations

[oblique sequoia]

Well I take mine to Steel Path and it works pretty good

[floral osprey]

iirc overguard isnt great into super high level cap stuff because stuff like arcane persistence only work on hp and damage reduction isnt applied to it so its like a free shield gate half the time

[oblique sequoia]

Though I do use Impetus and Pageflight to actually get more mileage out of it

I'd likely do more if I had the Tome Mods, but like I said, it's not overall necessary to be effective

[floral osprey]

but like as far as content it can handle probably a lot

[oblique sequoia]

I do understand wanting bigger numbers tho. That's always satisfying

[floral osprey]

i think you can actually get some prty big numbers with secondary enervate cuz it actually has a prty decent crit damage and it could probaly also do well with like primed pistol gambit/creeping bulsy + galv cross hairs

[restive berry]

uhh.. should i get that Coda Scythe? it have 60%

[strong field]

I actually don't want bigger numbers, but what I want is damage enough to survive 90% of content

(around enemies lvl 600 to 1000

[oblique sequoia]

Oh yeah definitely. Especially when in Wordwarden bc that has no bearing on fire rate

[strong field]

I mean I change the damage colors into red so how's that XDDDD

[floral osprey]

i dont think that beats out getting a red crit in the single digits

but then again i feel thats like what 99% of the click bait wf youtubers do xD

regardless tho, atleast the build i threw in here can probably go that far with mabey a little bit of tweaking. i really only take dante into archamedias but like at the same time it also hit prty hard so with a companion with like contagious bond and momentus bond (i think might be wrong) you can easily get some insane damage buffs via gundition overload

[strong field]

I will try it when I get Dante... I'll focus on making Vauban efficient more and more till I truly master him

[oblique sequoia]

I'm excited to see what kinda damage I start dealing once I actually have Brightbonnet on my Dante

[chilly jungle]

should i go blast corrosive or viral heat on shedu

[floral osprey]

yes

[gentle fulcrum]

Hello, I have a question. Can some units steal my primary? If so, how do I get it back?

I like running solo sp survival missions, but sometimes my primary just dissappears and I cant switch from my secundary. My sec and melee is way weaker, so its insta extract at that point. I just want to know, if its a feature that I should prep for or a bug.

[chilly jungle]

ok

[idle fossil]

yes some of them make you drop it, when this happens it should show up as a pick up item close by, the yellow box icon

[floral osprey]

some can but when they do a marker will appear on the map, (normally yellow) and if you go up to them you can pick it up

[gentle fulcrum]

Oh thanks, I always start panicking at that point so I must have missed it.

[chilly jungle]

they will never undo that bounty change right 😭

[idle fossil]

wouldnt plan on it

[strong field]

Corrosive Cold or Viral Heat

Blast won't work for some reason, (tried it)

[strong field]

Hahaha been there just focus on the blinking box

[floral osprey]

the actual shot will do blast itself but the radial will do cold, so you use it to apply blast to one dude and corrosive cold to everything else with the aoe

[chilly jungle]

if i do viral what will it proc

[floral osprey]

it has inate heat on the primary target and radial is eletric

modded for viral will result in viral heat on primary hit and viral eletric on radial

[strong field]

Corrosive Cold is thing then

[floral osprey]

but it goes multiplicitive with gundition overload so you can do some nasty stuff with a blast proc that has an damage value

[chilly jungle]

so you get viral + 2 DoTS

[floral osprey]

could, however cold is also a very good status for smthn if you want to further boost its crits

[chilly jungle]

ig

but im going for mostly aoe

[bright skiff]

how do u make dropships appear in cetus?

[floral osprey]

im ngl, just tried it out and it feels like going for the blast is actually how you make it "aoe"

you get some insane damage multiplication from gundition overload and as a result the blast proc kills stuff nearby, the difference between them is basically with blast you get a big damage aoe DoT plus cc vs big damage heat DoTs and very low damage eletric dots

[oblique sequoia]

They usually spawn actively in the middle of bounties, but if you're only exploring it's kinda random, I think

[bright skiff]

thanks!

[oblique sequoia]

No problem!

[fair ibex]

do you get steel essences for being the specteres in junctions?

or jist from planet completion + acolytes

[oblique sequoia]

No

[fair ibex]

🙁

give me MORE

[floral osprey]

planet completion acolytes and the alers

[oblique sequoia]

Steel Path incursions have set rewards

[fair ibex]

aight cool

[oblique sequoia]

Also, Relics have 1 steel essence in SP

[floral osprey]

you can also get them from perita rebelion from the primes in there, as well as 25 from sp curcit and decendia

[fair ibex]

what is an incursion?

[oblique sequoia]

Perita Rebellion SP also is a great drop for Essences

[floral osprey]

normal mission that gives 5 sp essence on completion

[fair ibex]

oh ok i dont think i have them yet?

[oblique sequoia]

You should if you change your game state to Steel Path

[floral osprey]

if you have access to sp you should have access to incursions

[oblique sequoia]

They'll appear on one of the tabs

[fair ibex]

im on sp , are they are the top?

[floral osprey]

yea

[oblique sequoia]

Yeah

[fair ibex]

ooo

[oblique sequoia]

It gives you access to nodes you haven't unlocked yet so it's pretty good to do if you wanna open up a specific planet

[fair ibex]

i need to do the story mode on normal to unlock sp circuit right?

[floral osprey]

yea

[fair ibex]

oh i have it unlocked tho

oh no i dont

[oblique sequoia]

Lol

[floral osprey]

i forget if isleweaver counts for it or not but atleast back when i did it you needed to do each one of the divuri gamemodes to unlock divuri sp

[fair ibex]

damn , who wants to do lone story :/

do i need to comeplte it ?

[floral osprey]

yes

[fair ibex]

😭

[floral osprey]

to unlock it atleast, unless your talking about curcit in which case you can stop at the end of every round

im ngl its not that bad tbh, just rush the objectives and youll be done before you know it

[oblique sequoia]

I never really do Lone Story bc I want all my side objectives

[fair ibex]

i just havbent done this one yet

[floral osprey]

throw it on like open lobby if you dont have good rolls and it should be relatively quickly

[oblique sequoia]

Yeah, you'll have a better time in pub for this one

[fair ibex]

aight ive never done these in pub i always solo duvori

[floral osprey]

icl, i just throw stuff on pubs because you sometimes get to meet interesting people

[fair ibex]

yeah i do a lot of other stuff in pub

[floral osprey]

i think ive ran into 2 other blinding mirages which has been fun

[fair ibex]

thank god someone joined my first interception on SP tbh

stupid game mode

[floral osprey]

mr ball boy with lots of duration 😔

[fair ibex]

like on nomral i just push slow and run round and cap all the nodes, but on sp i capped a node and then had like 20 trillion mobs attacking it at all times lol

[floral osprey]

tbh i like interception because once you have some decent cc frames it kinda just feels like "blow up that direction and watch the alert go away" but it def sucks if you dont have a form of cc with you

[fair ibex]

i just want my adapator for my sobek plz

i got 10 se 😄

[umbral fulcrum]

can we all agree the old invasions ui was beter? :3

[floral osprey]

just because ive not seen the old ui for it i wana say no expressly for the bit

[umbral fulcrum]

well the diffrences with the old ui u would see and start the missions from the invasion tab =w=

now u have to hover over the planet and then remember mission's name with the stuff u wanted xD

[floral osprey]

Do you? I'm like almost certain you can start them from the tab like any normal alert

[umbral fulcrum]

nope u can't it focuses ur navi on that planet o.o

[fair ibex]

lol well thats kinda werid

[floral osprey]

Like I just did some the other day to get a few sp essence quicker and I'm like 1000% sure I just spam clicked it and it queued up the mission

[chilly jungle]

ngl its irrelevant now

[fair ibex]

i just need it for sp unlock

[umbral fulcrum]

ye sp and everything else works so for me too.. just invasions dont xD

[chilly jungle]

alr

just remember that isleweaver is always better now ✌️💔

[floral osprey]

I'll check again just to see but I'm prty sure even if it did drag me to a planet to try to make me select the planet I just clicked it more so idk

[fair ibex]

does it count for the unlock?

[chilly jungle]

idk

do them all ig

[umbral fulcrum]

anythin gud from isle weaver?

[oblique sequoia]

Easy Pathos Clamps for Incarnon Genesis

[umbral fulcrum]

o.o

[oblique sequoia]

And also Oraxia, ofc

[umbral fulcrum]

have her :<

[oblique sequoia]

Well you can still get them Pathos Clamps

[chilly jungle]

pathos clamp

[umbral fulcrum]

ye, that clamussy

[floral osprey]

Pathos clamps ^3

[oblique sequoia]

I forgor what other offerings Achrithis has on her shop for Scuttler Husks tho

[floral osprey]

Uh ik u can get some kuva from it

[umbral fulcrum]

the hand ephemera?

[chilly jungle]

scytoid the only other one that people care about

and those random rolls

like orokin reactors/catalyst

[oblique sequoia]

Outside the weapons, I mean

[chilly jungle]

nothing else

[oblique sequoia]

Oh I should really check her shop more often

[floral osprey]

Kuva

[chilly jungle]

yeah but only with pathos clamp

[floral osprey]

You can buy kuva with scuttled husks (and sometimes pathos clamps)

[chilly jungle]

how much

[floral osprey]

Uh I think like 5.5k x10

And like 5.5k with pathos clamps

[chilly jungle]

not worth it 💔

[floral osprey]

Well unfortunately there aren't a lot of great ways to buy kuva in bulk after the hermos incident

[chilly jungle]

arbitrations

[floral osprey]

Is there a cap on how much you can buy per week?

[chilly jungle]

nah

hollup

[keen vortex]

hey all, i'm trying to find lenses and the wiki says i can find them in open world bounties and i don't understand what this means

[chilly jungle]

25 for 10k kuva and i think its inf purchases

[umbral fulcrum]

in cetus for eggsample talk with the guy that gives missions

[chilly jungle]

btw are you talking about when you could stack smeeta buffs to get insane amount of kuva or nah

[floral osprey]

no, he farmed out a ton of sp essence (via smeeta buff stacking) and bought like 20 million kuva in one go

[chilly jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sageyonce-gif-20853661

but he could of done that with normal kuva drops 😭

[floral osprey]

i dont think so

[chilly jungle]

im pretty sure there is atleast 1 way kuva drops on the ground

[floral osprey]

like realistically getting smthn like 3x smeeta buffs was super rare and you can stack a ton more sp essence generally

regardless tho go to "The Great Kuva Farm" and you can see him fall into several pits of despair over kuva

[chilly jungle]

sstill can happen

[keen vortex]

ty

[chilly jungle]

ngl farming steel essence today is so annoying 😭

its all passive

[floral osprey]

just went through the drop tables and it infact does not

so only way to farm it is through recources

[idle fossil]

kuva fortress disruption doesnt it? the demos are guardians?

[floral osprey]

and im just gona assume it was easier to get tons of sp essence stacked up to wait for a 2-3x smeeta buff + boosters to get a lot then try to do it via arbitrations + ik they added like a 5 min life time or smthn on the drops at some point i think to help stop that strategy sometime before they reworked the smeeta buff

[vapid iris]

Anyone got an updated hildryn build?

[floral osprey]

i think probably, ill grab it here in a sec

[umbral fulcrum]

EYO

[floral osprey]

i use smthn like this

[glossy violet]

finally built a 547, i stand corrected and you're right. the very much reduced recoil is a lot better for everything despite it sounding a bit too blaster-y for me

[fair ibex]

drifter is refusing to throw my orvus ><

never had this b4 am i doing something weird/wrong

[oblique sequoia]

Um... Is anyone having really bad lag in the Orbiter right now?

I mean frame rate drops, whoops

[zealous swan]

how do i kill my kuva lich

[fair ibex]

oo what should i choose o0

[fair ibex]

u have to do a whole bunch of stuff to prep him and get ready for the kill, deffo wrth watching a vid or something

[floral osprey]

burston fo sho

[fair ibex]

aight 🙂

and i use these to then upgrade my burston right:?

[floral osprey]

yea, you talk to cavalero in the zaramin

[fair ibex]

cool!

[floral osprey]

might require a few recources from divuri so have fun if your missing some of those recources (plus pathos clamps ofc)

[umbral fulcrum]

soma and burston ;v

[fair ibex]

but its fully worth the grind if i need resorc from the open world?

shit i only got a day

[floral osprey]

1000000%

[umbral fulcrum]

you can do it in 3-4 hrs

[fair ibex]

is it worth installing on the normal burston?

[floral osprey]

you only need to get to round 5 which takes like mby 40 min

[fair ibex]

or is getting the prime reccomdned

[floral osprey]

you can always uninstall it from weapons so while its best on prime you can put it on the base then uninstall and reinstal it on a prime later

[fair ibex]

yeah ive done so much circuit today lol i did all 10 tiers earlier in 2 rounds which was fun

[fair ibex]

ok ty

oh i can choose 2

[floral osprey]

imop since the burston prime iirc will never be vaulted its probably not all th dificult to get the burston prime parts

[umbral fulcrum]

shit, I nearly forgot I didnt max mi circuit lol

[fair ibex]

i have at least one part anyways

and for 2nd some1 said Soma?

[oblique sequoia]

OMG my circuit

[fair ibex]

hahah

[oblique sequoia]

Thanks for the reminder

[floral osprey]

yea, i dont have the soma prime and by proxy the soma incarnon (i have the adaptor not a soma tho) so i cant say how good or bad it is but i havent really heared anything bad about it which means its probably not all that bad

[fair ibex]

ok

the burston gets talked about a lot tho i think

[floral osprey]

100%

[oblique sequoia]

Base of Operations has low frames right now, idk what happened

[fair ibex]

i set the burston to tier 5 tho so i deffo get it

[oblique sequoia]

I have two Burston Primes each with 6 Forma

[floral osprey]

its one of the best weapons in the game for single target brrrt

[fair ibex]

nice

oh i get loads of arcanes as well now

niiice

[floral osprey]

<@&778745217037238293>

mods are asleep 😭

[fair ibex]

im surprised to can link images here without like r1 -2

[oblique sequoia]

The builds I wanted to make were so different that I didn't wanna change any of the polarities on my old Burston Prime

Ok that's it, I'm restarting my Steam Deck, these frames are not it

[stuck night]

so when leveling what is faster, hydron/helene or sanctuary onslaught. (entire loadout not just frame or weapon)

[fair ibex]

is the sp circuit gonna be super hard when i dont have builds for like any frames

[floral osprey]

this is what i think my "latest" burston prime build was and tbh i dont even know if HM is worth keeping on it but like i alrdy go addative with everything else

[oblique sequoia]

The frames and weapons have default loadouts

They're pretty serviceable

[floral osprey]

full squad on ESO probably, if your trying to rank the frame as well then full squad SO probably, you could also try smthn like SP survival nodes solo such as SP gabii ceres if you have good weapons and a frame as it has a super high densitiy of enemies

[floral osprey]

im ngl, for sp circuit, aslong as you can stay alive then your already doing more than enough. the decrees after a certain point end up carrying so hard it doesnt matter just about what you have on your weapons

[fair ibex]

yeah ok

i had such a dope loadout earler when i did the normal circuit so much dmg multipliers and speed

[fair ibex]

i have evrything but the riven for that 🙂

[floral osprey]

just swap the riven and hm for crit chance and crit damage mods

[fair ibex]

i have hm, but yeah without cc and cd u just take the dmg ones instead?

i worded that horribly

[floral osprey]

lmao i got like half of it and then had a stroke the rest of the way through

long story short, multiplicitive damage modding, the more things you mod for the more damage you will do because every stat works multiplicitively of each other. vs if you just stacked damage which would be addative and result in less total damage

now that i think about it i could probably put elemental damage for the incarnon heat damage

[fair ibex]

yeah im starting to just about have a basic understand on how to mod my things, but then i always will miss little things that make huge dmg multipliers

[gusty turtle]

You'll get there :3

[floral osprey]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Condition_Overload_(Mechanic) this is the best way to see if your missing a "huge dmg multiplier"

[fair ibex]

yeah i havent done any cond overloads yet lol

i really need it for my kouemi tbh

[floral osprey]

if weapon says multiplicitive put gundition overload and serration mods on, if not then just gundition

some weapons care about base damage more and for those weapons gundition and base damage mods are good but some also just cant use gundition or have high enough base damage from mods or whatever that they can get away not using gundition

[fair ibex]

wait was is gundition

[gusty turtle]

On the wiki page, there's multiple ways of giving overload effect to weapons

[floral osprey]

all the galvanized status mods that on kill give bonus damage per type of status affecting the target for guns

[fair ibex]

ahh ok

yeah i have them 🙂

[gusty turtle]

Galvanized mods, one cold arcane

And Cedo by default

Oh and some incarnon evolutions too

[floral osprey]

yup, i forget which weapons the cold arcane is in tho

lot of the time i dont see it for anything other than potential damage output of arch guns

[fair ibex]

yeah i have the apptitue/savvy ods etc

[gusty turtle]

The archguns. Because they don't have access to galvanized mods

[ashen smelt]

This is my Burston Prime mod. I use it with Valkyrie, and Arcane uses Bulwark.

[floral osprey]

yup XD

[zealous swan]

any1 got a nataruk build?

[floral osprey]

(on a less memey note its for secondaries which makes sense whyits not used since secondaries have so many good arcanes)

[split kite]

Which is more optimal to farm Aeolak parts on normal or SP Void Flood ?

[gusty turtle]

The cabal of evil Yareli mains that are running DE strikes again

[floral osprey]

smthn like this as a closer to starter build, 2nd one is a more later one and then change out the firerate mod for a level of firerate that allows you to consistently hit perfect shots

i find primed shred to be the sweet spot for me in the 2nd one but if for you a faster or slow fire rate is easier/more consistent then go with that

[opal warren]

I just tried running EDA
Guess that was a mistake

We loaded in
My teammates took several minutes to appear
I entered the mission as a headless umbra holding my arch gun weapon
Eventually my teammates loaded only to be stuck in...a...almost Mime like state where they were moving and doing actions
In one place. I can't do anything. It's happened twice in a row and we don't know how to fix it all we did was enter the mission
I haven't seen anything like this

[strong field]

How would you know if a weapons/mods are multiplicative?

[floral osprey]

@strong field

go here and search function the weapon, if its not there then its generally safe to assume its addative

[gusty turtle]

Not up to date though, there's a maintained google doc

[floral osprey]

eh ik theres one out there but its not always the easiest thing to find on demand

[gusty turtle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ryemX4Y2vWy9LjuJ355bWVNuBhzLaHTTFqPeTNto9RA/htmlview#gid=221509335

I have it. Now you all have it :3

[floral osprey]

i would reccomend trying to load in seperatly to see if it happens solo and if it does then check your internet, and if your internet is fine (and assuming your trying to do this with friends and its good on their end) then put in a support ticket

[opal warren]

I can try that later thank you
When I have the mindset to actually test things

[vapid iris]

Tysm 🙏🏾

[strong field]

Speaking of Gun Co

Is it possible for Torid (or any Guns like Fulmin) to be applied with Gunco?

[floral osprey]

i know that for the torid, specficailly the incarnon, it only applies to the target your shooting and not the beams iirc

but for most normal guns gunco works the "intended" way

[strong field]

Intended? Elaborate

[gusty turtle]

Fulmin gunco is additive on rifle mode and multiplicative on the shotgun mode

[zealous swan]

guys what weapon should i buy at cavalero, heard he sells good stuff

[strong field]

And wait, what do you mean? Let's say I go incarnoff, that's the only mode where Aptitude is helpful?

[strong field]

So Galv Aptitude is a must hmm

[floral osprey]

its intended to be addative, it being multiplicitive is technically a bug that they are well aware of and are probably not going to fix anytime soon since its what helps make a lot of weapons viable and there has alrdy been things from pablo where hes said he wanted to nerf stuff to bring it more in line but didnt due to the fact the community would go crazy

[floral osprey]

i mean ig?

the torid is alrdy the equivilent of a power lifter on steroids, belive it or not you dont need to pump more stuff into it to make it even beefier

[strong field]

What if I want to

[floral osprey]

get a riven for it

[strong field]

fck no ;~;

[floral osprey]

its called crack open the tons of rifle rivens you have and pray

[strong field]

Gimme that!

[floral osprey]

nah, i kinda like it a little bit

[strong field]

Nuuuuu

I have an another unveiled riven so I'm hoping it's a good gun

[gusty turtle]

This turns "lobs a toxic payload" into "floats a toxic payload"

[floral osprey]

i take the +50% projectile speed perk so its negative is next to nothing

[strong field]

OK let's go back to Fulmin or any Guns with Gunco

How would you know it's additive or Multiplicative

[floral osprey]

check the wiki or the document

[strong field]

I mean yes I read the wiki but it doesn't really give me that specific answer

[gusty turtle]

It should

[strong field]

Like unlisted guns to know of its add or Multi

[gusty turtle]

It says which attack on which weapon is multiplicative or additive

[gusty turtle]

If it's not on the list it's 99,99% additive

[floral osprey]

long story short is if the weapon shoots normal bullets like the fulmin in both its forms then its gona be addative

[strong field]

Damn

[gusty turtle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ryemX4Y2vWy9LjuJ355bWVNuBhzLaHTTFqPeTNto9RA/htmlview#gid=221509335

Google doc is more expansive

But same rules apply

[strong field]

Oh aeolak is multiplicative!

[gusty turtle]

Fulmin is multi in the shotgun mode!!!

[strong field]

Let me try that

[floral osprey]

it is???

[strong field]

As what it says

[floral osprey]

gah daym

i wonder if its actually a hit scan projectile then

[gusty turtle]

Full auto is hitscan with fake projectiles

Semi auto is projectiles

With very high velocity

[floral osprey]

ah

[strong field]

That term too what's a hit scan

[floral osprey]

that makes sense then ig

[strong field]

I have a lot of question with these terms

[floral osprey]

if you point and click on something the bullet instantly hits it

as soon as you click

[strong field]

Ohhhhhh

[gusty turtle]

It's a weapon that "scans" the environment for a hit. It hits immediately and doesn't have travel time

Basically your standard bullet in most videogames

[floral osprey]

im prty sure most generic fps games use hitscan for their guns

[strong field]

So Fulmin auto mode is full hitscan...

[floral osprey]

auto mode is hitscan (addative) semi is VERY fast projectile (multiplicitive)

gunco goes multiplicitive with projectile stuff generally and addative with hitscan

[strong field]

Hmmm Mmm so Aptitude is needed fr fr

I need a forma tbh

[gusty turtle]

Yeah, it just also creates fake harmless projectiles for visuals

Shotgun is honest

[strong field]

Oh just for the sake of Visuals

That's why Fulmin is a bit better.... Or better than acceltra

[gusty turtle]

Yeah if you spin your camera very fast the projectiles will be lagging behind your actual damage

[floral osprey]

yea, if you wanted to go shotgun only then aptitude and base damage mod, if full auto then either just base damage or aptitude

[strong field]

What about both?

[floral osprey]

iirc acceltra is "better" because aoe is the name of the game

base damage arcane + gun co

or base damage arcane serration and gunco and just accept your going addative on full auto

[strong field]

Tbh imma go my typical buuld

This may be blasphemy bc I go Serration, Ms (Galv Chambers) and Aptitude (in most guns)

Especially in my Nataruk... It's always like that

[floral osprey]

nataruk goes multiplicitive

[red holly]

Lavos applying guaranteed statuses on weapons with high crit profile but low status chance is so big

[strong field]

So a primer

OHHHH WAIT!!!!!

THAT'S HOW I GOT MILLIONS OF DAMAGE!!!

[floral osprey]

something something vadarya prime + lavos on release 😔

[strong field]

it's the more status = more damage (add or multi) right???????

That's the general term for CO?

[gusty turtle]

Yes. More different status effects = more damage

[red holly]

yes, the thing is, vadarya prime on lavos is still super strong

still using it

one headshot and everyone dies to gas procs

[strong field]

OHHHHHHHHH well even if it's additive or Multiplicative... It'll still do good damage right?

[floral osprey]

the damage from gunco is multiplicitive with base damage mods, so say you have 4 different statuses or whatever which is smthn like 240 from gunco that gets multiplied by teh 165+360 from serration and arcane merciless/deadhead

[strong field]

Acceltra or Fulmin or Soma Prime or etc.

[gusty turtle]

Yeah, but multiplicative needs base damage. And additive is base damage. So you kinda have to account for them differently

[floral osprey]

100%, im just sad i didnt atleast get to play with it a little bit

[strong field]

Hmmm OK, I kinda get it now.... Imma get Diriga again

[red holly]

I haven't tried it on release but I can confirm it is still strong

so on release it must have been literally broken

[floral osprey]

on release you would go like blast infusion and with a headshot it would cause infinite lightningstrikes and if there were enough enemies and you had it doing low eneough damage you would crash ppl

[red holly]

[floral osprey]

belive it or not they patched that reliavtively quickly

[red holly]

at least people who got to use it had a blast

[fair ibex]

circuit progress points is less on sp right?

[red holly]

those circuits are separate

normal one is for warframes, sp is for incarnons

[fair ibex]

nah i get that but i mean, i feel like on normal for the same progrss i get further through the thingy

[red holly]

not sure

[fair ibex]

ran out of ammo on jackel lol

[floral osprey]

I think it's cuz the first like 4 or 5 rounds get a daily bonus to how much they progress the circuit

[fair ibex]

oh ic

[floral osprey]

So if you did a bunch earlier you might have exaughsted the daily bonuses hence it is taking longer mby

[red holly]

oooh, coda caustacyst with 60% electric

[floral osprey]

Alternatively it's just sp so killing is harder at the start and there for taking longer to complete missions

[red holly]

time to beat up some techrot boyband

[floral osprey]

I forget how it's suppose to be used. Is it just heavy attack spam with influince? Or was it slam influence? I forget and I don't think I've ever used it tbh

[red holly]

no idea, I'll figure out what to do with it once I get it

the weapon's gimmick is the corrosive pools after heavy attacking

[umbral fulcrum]

is it me or does warframe have bunny hopping? -w-

[red holly]

below average crit chance but very high status chance makes this weapon work great with statuses and with a heavy attack build it will be easier to crit thanks to the crit chance modifiers adding double crit chance to them

how do you bunny hop in warframe?

[umbral fulcrum]

well at least in duviri mods it feels like it

especially once u get that ridiculous movement decree u accelerate a lot

[fair ibex]

jeebus might take me the full 14 hours to get to t5 lol

[umbral fulcrum]

why?

[red holly]

t5 doesn't that THAT long to get as long as your team is decent

[fair ibex]

i can only really get to jackel .. keep running out of ammo so it takes to long might as well restart

oh ive always done it solo b4

[red holly]

try pub next time

[umbral fulcrum]

can u not practice anymore L tests?

[red holly]

you could always practice them at cephalon simaris, there should be teleporters

if these don't work then they must have removed it

[umbral fulcrum]

x,.,x

[red holly]

besides, I think nowadays you can repeat the tests when you fail

not like before when you had to wait a day for another try

[umbral fulcrum]

WOT

[oblique sequoia]

Yeah

[umbral fulcrum]

I still rememer that mr 12 or so test... failed 3 or 4 times before practicin at simaris's

[red holly]

that's probably why they've removed the cooldown

[oblique sequoia]

24 hour cooldown timer if you fail

I hate practicing bc I'd do it there effortlessly then fail on the actual test

[oblique sequoia]

Arcanes

[red holly]

arcanes

[static gulch]

what they do?

[red holly]

make your warframe or weapons stronger

[static gulch]

OoO

[red holly]

think of them like a diffrent kind of a mod

[still wyvern]

it's like a more esoteric mod slot

[static gulch]

how can we obtain em?

[still wyvern]

many ways

[static gulch]

oo

[still wyvern]

acolytes, syndicates, eidolons, some bosses

[red holly]

they are everywhere nowadays, deimos, hollvania, steel path missions, sanctum anatomica, zariman

duviri. eidolons

[static gulch]

o

[oblique sequoia]

Isolation Vaults on Deimos

[static gulch]

so at what point of the game can they be obtained? like how long after starting the game

[chilly jungle]

yeah

and events

[mellow oriole]

Guys, for koumei and her kit, her first ability applies status effects, with the condition overload mod, do i still get bonus damage from koumei’s ability?

[static gulch]

@chilly jungle Nice pfp

[still wyvern]

I think you unlock the ability to use them on warframes as soon as you get some, but with weapons it's later

[static gulch]

.

[still wyvern]

I'm like 80% sure you need to unlock steel path to use primary and secondary arcanes

[oblique sequoia]

So long as the enemy has an active status effect, you get bonus damage from Condition Overload

[still wyvern]

not sure about melee ones but most of them are harder to get

[static gulch]

but at what point do i obtain it for the first time

[still wyvern]

that really depends

[static gulch]

oh

[oblique sequoia]

I don't remember when you get the Arcane Segment

[still wyvern]

you can even get some from nightwave

[oblique sequoia]

I got it so long ago

[red holly]

from eidolon probably

[still wyvern]

do they even require a segment?

[mellow oriole]

so if the icon appears besides an enemies name (the elemental icon), i can get the damage bonus?

[static gulch]

is that a boss or smth?

[oblique sequoia]

Yep. All sources of status conditions count. Your weapons, your abilities, your companions

[mellow oriole]

nice

[oblique sequoia]

So long as the enemy is affected, Condition Overload gives you bonis damage

[mellow oriole]

btw, is it possible i can remove orokin catalysts from my weapons, im going for a melee build

[oblique sequoia]

No, unfortunately

[static gulch]

what are those crystals?

[mellow oriole]

Whats the easiest way to get catalyst as a beginner

[oblique sequoia]

They're items you use to double the Mod Capacity of your gear. Orokin Catalyst for weapons, Orokin Reactors for Warframes and Companions

[red holly]

have you been to plains of eidolon? yeah, that place is named after them

[still wyvern]

nightwave

[next quarry]

how do u get rime rounds?

[fair ibex]

spy missions t2

[still wyvern]

maybe sorties if you have those unlocked and get lucky

[static gulch]

I haven't even started playing yet
I'm waiting for the global android release since I don't have a pc or laptop

[next quarry]

wuts t2-

[still wyvern]

pavlov on lua has the highest drop rates for it but it is also an insane spy mission so good luck

[static gulch]

do you mean those potatos?

[mellow oriole]

last question, im doing a heavy weapon build as a beginner, do i stick with the fragor or is there better heavy weapons i can get as a beginner?

[oblique sequoia]

Yes

[static gulch]

I keep forgetting there names

[static gulch]

why would someone wanna remove them?

[mellow oriole]

Are they tradable

[red holly]

reactors and catalysts

[next quarry]

o

im not excited for ts

[fair ibex]

i think i did Valac cos its super fast

[oblique sequoia]

I don't remember if the Blueprints are

[next quarry]

but anything for the platinum

[still wyvern]

yeah I would recommend doing pavlov once so you can be like "oh my god" and then maybe farm it somewhere else

[mellow oriole]

are weapon builds as good as primary builds

[static gulch]

🫡 Good luck tenno

[oblique sequoia]

Not necessarily. Depends on how you build things

[fair ibex]

the worst one by far ive done is the kovu fortress one, i comeplted it once after about 6 -8 attempts and got thermite rounds from it so never going back there

[mellow oriole]

everything can be good just build them right

[oblique sequoia]

If you're only starting out, I suggest take it slow bc it can get really overwhelming

[static gulch]

100% true

[oblique sequoia]

Too much info

[oblique sequoia]

That's the idea.

[mellow oriole]

do i need crit if im doing a status heavy attack build

[oblique sequoia]

No