gameplay-discussion

[quartz comet]

how do i subsume a warframe cuz i can subsume 3 but when i press it i cant really do much except sit in the chair

[fair ibex]

each of the syndicates has augments for different frames, but once u max the one u choose you can always do swaps for augments u want for ones u have - ive manged to do that for my frames i dont have standing for

[quartz comet]

got it

[red holly]

is it weird that I don't like blast?

[umbral fulcrum]

damn, this on dante would go crazy o.o

I mean that on me cough

[oblique sequoia]

Here you go! Still farming for an Exilus Weapon Adapter for this one lol

Though honestly I don't think it's necessary

[lyric vessel]

Can I get a price check

[oblique sequoia]

I'm thinking of putting Brightbonnet over Dante's 1 since I learned that you can still summon the Noctua without it

Since I don't really use the Noctua outside of that for activating Arcane Impetus (with Secondary Encumber)

[strong field]

4 formas huh....

[oblique sequoia]

It's the fault of the Galvanized Mods

XD

I used to only have this at 2

[spice reef]

hello, does anyone know how to do exploiter orb?

[strong field]

What does Vigilant Offense do?

[waxen thunder]

🗣️

[oblique sequoia]

Punch Through

[waxen thunder]

i still need two more primed mods for this

[strong field]

More formas is a waste, it never impresses me tbh

[waxen thunder]

i literally need them to fit mods in lmao

[surreal saddle]

Which one do I take Critical Damage and chance or Electricity, Damage, Critical chance but minus heavy attack efficiency?

[waxen thunder]

they arent fully ranked yet and i dont have primed heated and fulmination yet

[oblique sequoia]

Some weapons just need more investment than others

[strong field]

I know, but I'm sure 6 is enough unless you keep changing builds

[waxen thunder]

Yeah like kitguns come with 0 polarity slots

[strong field]

I know but the most I know is 5 formas

[waxen thunder]

no im just running 1 build

[strong field]

What is the use of Kitguns tbh

[oblique sequoia]

Modular weapons are nice. You have control over the stats

[waxen thunder]

funny
i use this on yareli because i can negate the huge amount of self stagger it has

sporelacer haymaker macro thymoid

[oblique sequoia]

I have a kitgun that absolutely shreds

[strong field]

Fr?

[oblique sequoia]

And it was one I made when I was relatively new to the game

[surreal saddle]

Which one do I take?

[waxen thunder]

build isnt finished yet but its
hornet strike, galva diffusion, primed target cracker, primed pistol gambit
pistol pestilence, primed convulsion, primed heated charge, primed fulmination
lethal momentum

pax charge and i need to get the heat proc arcane

[waxen thunder]

yeah you fire this thing without self stagger immunity and you get launched from if you are standing anywhere near an enemy

[eager snow]

sporelacer?

[waxen thunder]

yareli i get to have some extra hp from merulina and 150% cc from passive

sporelacer yareli

[eager snow]

yeah sporelacer knockback is very annoying

[strong field]

Damn

[eager snow]

sick gun though

[waxen thunder]

you just have to either psf (not getting that anytime soon), or run some other form of stagger immunity like riding merulina

[strong field]

Idk literally the use of this hahahah

[waxen thunder]

this is my yareli build

[strong field]

What's the fastest way to get Orokin cell btw

[umbral fulcrum]

cheap ass

[unique tartan]

I'm glad that the classic four requiem relics will no longer be dropped, because good god having over 70 of each relic is so crap

Like they're unvaultable, how is having over 70 of them considered smart

[oblique sequoia]

I might still run what I have just to get rid of them

I think I have less than 10 of each

[unique tartan]

I envy you

I have either 30-40 of each

[oblique sequoia]

Admittedly I don't do a lot of Kuva missions because of said mods

I have quite a few Lich weapons that need upgrades

I'm a little glad they added Oull when I actually started going after Liches, but it's still quite the slog

[strong field]

What's the best Orokin Cell farm?

[oblique sequoia]

They say Gabii on Ceres but tbh I just farm them on the Assassination Mission with Vor and Kril

Same place

You'll find a few dedicated looters in that mission a lot

[strong field]

Hmmm

[oblique sequoia]

So going pub makes it pretty fast

[strong field]

Aight I'll try

[oblique sequoia]

Epitath with Fulmination is good for looting

Since the aoe goes through walls

[oblique sequoia]

[strong field]

Still going magnicidium hahahaha but repeating it is very boring hahahah

[umbral fulcrum]

Dayum son

[oblique sequoia]

Tbh I only go Orokin Cell farming when I have a resource booster

Also... Idk if this is intentional, but I'm seeing Orokin Cells drop in places it shouldn't be

I wonder if it's the corrupted infestation from Void Fissure missions?

[strong field]

Give ;~;

[oblique sequoia]

I only get my boosters from blessings and daily tributes 😭

And weekly rewards

[random hearth]

Guys

[strong field]

Hi

[random hearth]

Can you trade prime chassis's?

[strong field]

If one have, yes

Yep

[pure gulch]

yes

[oblique sequoia]

Yes

[pure gulch]

well, blueprint, not built

[random hearth]

Like I mean already-built

[pure gulch]

but yeah

[strong field]

Yes

[pure gulch]

if its built then no

[oblique sequoia]

Oh already built... Nah

[random hearth]

Oh no

[strong field]

Nope, already built cant

[random hearth]

i need someone to build it for me

Cuz i dont have nitain extracts or smth

Qnd i cant do the quests

[pure gulch]

if you have nightwave creds you can buy them

[strong field]

Nightwave bro

Save some cred and buy it, it's only 15 Nightwave creds

[random hearth]

Can someone help me do the quests? I need to do the eidolon titans

I only have 5

[strong field]

No one do that more often bc Nightwave exists

[hybrid gorge]

i need help

[random hearth]

Yeah ik but one of my nightwave quests is kill the eidolon titans or capture it or smth

[random hearth]

Yrah that one

[strong field]

What rank are you in Nightwave

[random hearth]

I need to do that one

[random hearth]

1

[strong field]

You should have the 500 enemies and 15 missions needed one

[hybrid gorge]

would you like to join

[random hearth]

I dont

[strong field]

Where if you did it there should be 150 nightwaves

[random hearth]

Yuh, user is minosprimereal

[hybrid gorge]

done

[random hearth]

Start the mission

[strong field]

My problem here is Orokin cell

[random hearth]

Lets do it tg

[floral thunder]

Bruh

[hybrid gorge]

its open world think

[random hearth]

Oh okay

[hybrid gorge]

and we need to wait for night

[random hearth]

Alright

Lets do it at night

[strong field]

Is that the big robot?

[hybrid gorge]

yess

[graceful basin]

oops i misread smth and chose the wrong dialogue option

or like, the one i didnt intend to pick

[strong field]

There is no Mr requirements for it?

[hybrid gorge]

do you have AMP

[strong field]

Amp is only required?

[hybrid gorge]

yess

[strong field]

Ask @random hearth

[hybrid gorge]

bc that is only think can kill him

[lofty garden]

amp removes eidolon shields

[hybrid gorge]

yup

[strong field]

Does void sling work

[oblique sequoia]

I don't think so

[rugged shore]

sling doesnt deal actual damage so nah

[strong field]

Yeah Nightwave is still to go hahahah

[tulip magnet]

I think you could do it with the default beam

might take you the whole night though

[rugged shore]

for eidolons? default beam is yuck

but if you get a perita artifact for madurai honestly mote amp probably melts em anyways lol

[oblique sequoia]

Yeah the Tektolyst Mods really do be carrying me in getting mastery for Amp Prisms I've newly built

[random hearth]

Im back

[oblique sequoia]

Mi back, I'm Mega

[random hearth]

How im gonna be finding your location

[oblique sequoia]

[random hearth]

But we should do it now

I rlly need the credits

Ivr got radioactive stuff

[oblique sequoia]

Is it still Night in Plains?

[random hearth]

Yeah

My user is minosprimereal

[oblique sequoia]

How long until day? I'm not particularly fast when Eidolon Hunting

I may be faster now that I have a better amp tho

Can I DM you so we don't flood this channel?

[random hearth]

Sure

For future references, my dms are always open

[oblique sequoia]

I'll keep that in mind

[white badger]

agh it costs 2 search pulses? i shouldnt have done so many netracells for standing lol

just got r5 cavia

and i had everything this week lol

[oblique sequoia]

Yeah... Deep Archimedia and Temporal Archimedia costs 2 Search Pulses

[eager snow]

make sure to buy the shard from Bird 3

[umbral fulcrum]

is this worthy?

[oblique sequoia]

Oh what shard does he have right now?

[umbral fulcrum]

yello

[white badger]

yea i saw that

[random solstice]

guys does operation plague star happen every september?

[willow bluff]

It's not guaranteed to happen every year.

Photon Repeater + Well of Life:
Keep 3 targets floating, now u just need 2 enemies to walk into the range and it's always free ability cast.

[white badger]

what frames can i do this on

[willow bluff]

Ivara

[white badger]

dont have

[willow bluff]

Well any other alternatives are equally bad then

I use riven cipher for these kinds of challenges

[jovial solstice]

loki is easy too

sentinel/pet killing does count as you killing btw

[white badger]

so just enequip

[jovial solstice]

yep

[white badger]

and put duration on invis

[jovial solstice]

yep

[willow bluff]

Also better try finding extraction before the green marker appears

Put a waypoint on it and then the usual struggle with life support interactions

[void otter]

is zephyrs subsume any good?

[willow bluff]

Yes

[void otter]

dang actually?

cant get around buying frame slots then

[leaden spade]

I have max Suda standing atm, what Vooban augments are seeing use?

[gusty turtle]

It's grouping with a dmg buff if you have an augment

Not exceptional, but decent

[crystal zodiac]

day 3 of farming octavia chassis, im not convinced its real

[white badger]

is octavia grind that bad

[crystal zodiac]

no it shouldnt be

u need a certain tile to spawn on lua and its just not happening

[oblique sequoia]

Tesla Bank is pretty good

[crystal zodiac]

for reference on my octavia farm suffering ive ogtten 10 copies of cunning drift

[oblique sequoia]

[crystal zodiac]

maybe farming octavia chassis is secretly a hidden plat farm

[oblique sequoia]

I don't think it'll pick up considering she's in Duviri Circuit rotations

[crystal zodiac]

yeah im strongly considering just waiting for that

but also this is kinda sunk cost fallacy at this point

[oblique sequoia]

Honestly recommend that.

You'll get one of her Augments there, too

[round ledge]

does xakus void dmg work on eidolons?

[oblique sequoia]

I think so

But if you're referring to shields, I'm pretty sure it only gets damaged by amps

[crystal zodiac]

also jesus christ nokko is broken

[oblique sequoia]

He is LMAO

[gusty turtle]

No. Xaku's void dmg only works on obelisks on Deimos

Everything else requires operator dmg

[crystal zodiac]

mine is lvl 15 with no double mod capacity why is his 4 doing 2MIL sometimes

[oblique sequoia]

I was doing 9M damage on his 4th before modding

[crystal zodiac]

and u can just chill with 50% efficiency

cus he gets more energy based on strength

[oblique sequoia]

And passive energy regen from Brightbonnet

Which doubles in pulse rate if hit by his 4

[crystal zodiac]

going from limbo to this is def a feeling

why bother with all this stasis cataclysm stuff when i can have 4 of them that also do viral procs

[gusty turtle]

Nokko is literally Qorvex but with a good status effect

Geniunely horrific

[oblique sequoia]

Oh I still wanna try out Qorvex

[gusty turtle]

Qorvex has the same gameplan as Nokko, with using towers to chain his beam

[oblique sequoia]

It's so funny bc Nokko's just a little guy

[gusty turtle]

And having them double pulse

[oblique sequoia]

Especially in Sprodling form

[gusty turtle]

The only major difference is

Qorvex does radiation dmg

[oblique sequoia]

Nokko can reliably recover energy?

[crystal zodiac]

yeah

[gusty turtle]

Yeah, Qorvex needs an arcane for it

[crystal zodiac]

brightbonnet is like a top 5 subsume too

[oblique sequoia]

Yeah right?

[glossy violet]

i need an alarm clock for cetus evenings 😭 i keep going like "ooh 1h until night i got plany of time" and then lose myself doing a cascade and suddenly its "night ends in 1m" fml

[gusty turtle]

They both even share an invulnerability form

Qorvex goes beam mode, Nokko goes small

[oblique sequoia]

Passive Ability Strength buff, too

[gusty turtle]

They just replaced status immunity of Qorvex and split his beam into invuln and damage drop

[oblique sequoia]

I wanna see how that scales off of Danny with Impetus LMAO

[gusty turtle]

It's damning how Nokko just stole everything from Qorvex

They even have signature archguns with exactly the same bonus

[crystal zodiac]

nokko does literally everything except move his shit effectively

[gusty turtle]

Nokko also has something no other caster has

It's a rather unique privilege at that

He is effective at dealing dmg to bosses

No other generic ability casters are

[lofty garden]

it isn’t an hour. it is 50 min and 100 min. The game does not properly display daytime time remaining

[crystal zodiac]

im gonna pivot to farming a different frame but idk who i wanna farm

[gusty turtle]

Jade

Elevator gameplay

[crystal zodiac]

shes crafting already lmao ill give a list of people i kinda want

out of citrine, oraxia, harrow, maybe dante, and i forgot the other ones i wanted off the top of my head lmao

[oblique sequoia]

Dante good. I still need to get on with Citrine

[crystal zodiac]

theres a dark part in my mind that wants to keep doing the mission, cus i want the secondary so i can rock full jade weapons, and i kinda wanna max out melee afflictions

[oblique sequoia]

Also I should build Dagath... I just opened up 2 slots from subsuming a spare Excal and Nokko

[gusty turtle]

Citrine

[crystal zodiac]

i liked dagath but put them in the helminth cus the only thing i rlly liked was wyrd scythes anyway

[gusty turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/demon-cat-scary-cat-demon-scary-cat-gif-26356229

[oblique sequoia]

I actually did that LMAO
My Jade loadout is everything from Ascention

[crystal zodiac]

harmony and evensong are rlly fun to use

[oblique sequoia]

Cantare has great buffs

[crystal zodiac]

i want it for the style but realistically its a downgrade cus im running ocucor lmao

[oblique sequoia]

Kinda hard to activate sometimes tho

Yeah...

[crystal zodiac]

ive invested into ocucor and have a lot of pretty good thrown melees but have pretty much never invested into my primaryu

[oblique sequoia]

Honestly, god bless Duviri Circuit. That's where I tried out the Evensong and decided then and there to farm for Jade and everything she came with

[crystal zodiac]

the literal only primary weapons ive actually used are dread, nataruk, and evensong

i kinda want to invest into a beam weapon of some kind cus i crafted a few but i dont have plat for orokin things

how bad is oraxia grind?

[white badger]

this seems like cipher material, how do you do that on a shotgun

[willow bluff]

Tenet Glaxion

[white badger]

or even a pistol

[eager snow]

use cyte or ivara, or something like arca scisco

[crystal zodiac]

im only MR 12 :(

[white badger]

oh cyte yea

[willow bluff]

oh cyte yea

[oblique sequoia]

Not that bad tbh. You get a lot of Scuttler Husks if your luck is bad. But her parts all dropped for me when I was farming her

[willow bluff]

2 boss fights with 3 bosses.

[crystal zodiac]

i have convectrix, phantasma, amprex phage crafted and lvl 30 i just want to spent plat on other things first

[willow bluff]

Each run.

[oblique sequoia]

The only thing that really bothered me about Oraxia were her weapons lol

[crystal zodiac]

ngl the worst actual farm for me so far was nokko but thats cus i was doing it wrong lmao

i didnt realise each component dropped from the different bounties i thought it was just levels

[oblique sequoia]

McRip

[crystal zodiac]

it took me comfortably like 20-30 hours just because i did it wrong and eventually bought it from nightcap

also question about helminth cus i havent actually put things on frames before

1. does it cost anything to put abilities on and off frames
2. does the ability being put on apply to all loadouts

[gusty turtle]

1. Yes, it asks for materials. Costs nothing to remove
2. You can choose which loadouts

[crystal zodiac]

ah nice

cus i didnt wanna commit to putting an ability on a frame and then not wanting it on some builds

[gusty turtle]

Yeah infusion isn't too costly

[crystal zodiac]

like for example depending on build limbo wants to subsume different buttons

[gusty turtle]

You have all those food types percentages, it takes from those

[crystal zodiac]

for coop builds and low range builds limbo subsumes his 3 and in high range solo builds he subsumes his 4

but yeah im strongly considering putting wyrd scythes on nezha

[oblique sequoia]

So my Vauban loadout ends up wanting to not be stationary at all

[white badger]

which of this should i choose in that week

what other 2 are easier to grind

[oblique sequoia]

Oh oof... Harrow

[white badger]

harrow seems like a pain

[oblique sequoia]

It's a tossup to choose between Harrow and Octavia

There's a reason why we have an Honoria called "The Power of Harrow Compels Thee" and it costs 250 Harrow Chassis Blueprints

That's all I can say

[glossy violet]

it's because all of the luck for his Systems goes to his Chassis

so Harrow Chassis and Harrow Systems are memes for two completely different reason

[oblique sequoia]

It's also funny when they revealed the title bc in the Dev Build it costs 250 Harrow Prime Chassis Blueprints

[glossy violet]

The reason being, pre-wisp Defection was concentrated misery

[oblique sequoia]

Oh Wisp is able to heal the defection targets, right?

With her Vitality Mote?

[stray oasis]

I have just learned what the funny sword icon that appears on my screen means

[glossy violet]

and make them faster too which is super convenient

[glossy violet]

welcome to tennokai! have fun getting a random qte every few seconds or so

[oblique sequoia]

LMAO

[stray oasis]

It reminds me that heavy attacks exist which... which I need

[oblique sequoia]

This is why I like Discipline's Merit. It's guaranteed

That would go so hard on the Thalys Incarnon omg

Especially bc I already have 2x combo multiplier from one of the evos and I only need 3 to activate the Incarnon

[stray oasis]

I'm currently using Opportunity's Reach just because it makes the window for it really long

[oblique sequoia]

Opportunity's Reach sounds really fun on something like the Mire with Primed Reach

The range on that thing must go insane hahaha

[crystal zodiac]

note to self take loyal merulina if using yareli in isleweaver i had ZERO ammo at all times

and i forgot to swap back to coop so i was struggling lmao

[pure gulch]

don't need to use the weapon the riven is for necessarily

[dire mesa]

Who’s your guys favorite hybrid warframe (gun platform / caster)

[crystal zodiac]

yareli

[strong field]

Huh

[strong field]

Vauban

Oh no... He only have buffs

[rich valley]

Koumei

[strong field]

I mean sure I guess but yeah, Vector Overdrive is his buff so Vaubs

[crystal zodiac]

hot take i love yareli k drive movement

ive never willingly ran loyal merulina

[strong field]

Drifting through merulina hahahah

[crystal zodiac]

i love yareli warframe

[strong field]

Niceee

Yareli is a good frame, though I haven't use her aside cranking my MR

I still don't know how to use her with or without Loyal Merulina

[pallid talon]

you are the crowd control king but have never used yareli

[crystal zodiac]

i can try to give tips if u want

[pallid talon]

yareli has good crowd control

[crystal zodiac]

as someone who sucks at the game but plays yareli a lot lmao

[strong field]

Yeah sute

[strong field]

Nuh uh, she may have good CC but Vauban is ALL CC... So hence, the CC KING

[crystal zodiac]

i think generally on yareli u kinda just pick an augment mod and build around it specifically

[strong field]

Huh, unique idea, not bad

[crystal zodiac]

cus like if ur riding merulina u want merulina guardian and if ur not u want loyal merulina

and the blade augment is fun but tbh i wouldnt recommend it for actually being powerful cus u kinda just stop using guns with it

[dire mesa]

What’s the point of crowd control

[pallid talon]

makes killing enemies and defending objectives easier

[dire mesa]

Like cc really has no value with how the current aoe nuke meta is rn

[pallid talon]

and faster

[strong field]

It's an another good way of survivability

[dire mesa]

I love cc but it does need a buff

[strong field]

Nah, it's CC for a reason, it's not for killing its for controlling the crowd

[crystal zodiac]

it has value just not quite as much as other options

the only thing getting in the way of CC being insane is overguard

[dire mesa]

Why control them when you can kill then though that’s the whole problem

[dire mesa]

Which is also an unfortunate problem

[strong field]

Nuking is Cool but if you can't survive with a nuke and because you need energy and sustainability? Yeah...

[crystal zodiac]

like limbo would auto win every mission without overguard existing lmao

[strong field]

With Vauban. It's not really a problem

Put tesla bank in to proc his 1 more electricity and it'll melt overguard and shield in no time

[pallid talon]

early and midgame players can also find a lot of use out of cc

[dire mesa]

Well it’s not like people make builds with the sole purpose of pressing a series of buttons and not accounting things like energy economy and survivability etc

[crystal zodiac]

yeah limbo HARD carried me through the entire star chart and a lot of other stuff

[strong field]

Yeah, which I agree, Nuking and CC has their own use and player references

Both are useful in their own way and both are needed in one's preferences

[dire mesa]

Vauban is a beast though I like him his prime is a pain to get though

[crystal zodiac]

i didnt have to build things well cus i basically can never die and nothing can move, so im gonna kill it eventually on him

[strong field]

Amen to that brother hahahah

[crystal zodiac]

thats until 5 nullifiers spawn at once and i cry

[dire mesa]

All that oxium and cryotic yeah hell no

[strong field]

And that waste of 150 to 180 plat hahahahah

I just got lucky I bought Vauban around 125p before hahahah

[strong field]

Cryptic is easy if you have music.... Oxium tho.........

[strong field]

Good thing, Vauban's main damage (2 specifically) is considered a weapon so it won't disappear in a nullified bubble

And yes, since his 2 is considered a weapon, it can proc viral with the use of Nourish

The versatility of Vauban is soooo beautiful

[crystal zodiac]

banshee 4 is so funny what do u mean i just sit there AFK doing damage

do people actually build around that im just playing them in isleweaver

[strong field]

Hehe have you heard of Octavia?

[crystal zodiac]

ive spent 3 days farming her chassis

[strong field]

Felt the pain for Nokko brother

[crystal zodiac]

i just got nokko lmao

[strong field]

Nice one

[crystal zodiac]

it took so long

but hes so busted

[strong field]

Anyways, if specifically Banshee? Nah, I haven't seen her played by anyone.... She is not bad, it's just there are 2 frames that outperform her

[crystal zodiac]

yeah she seems outdated vibe wise

[strong field]

Because she is, one of the oldest frame

Like Octavia's 1 outperforms banshee's 4 and Cyte09 outperforms banshee's 3 (weakpoints smth smth)

She is not been used by a lot of people

[late vessel]

It does very little dmg so it'll only works for low level mission

[crystal zodiac]

ig if u have to farm a specific defense mission or something

have her AFK with a teammate collecting stuff for citrine farming idk

[strong field]

A lot of frames just out perform banshee these days

[strong field]

Ehh..... I can think of a lot of frames who can do better

[late vessel]

If there's like a lvl 25 defense alert with thight tileset then geah sure

[crystal zodiac]

yeah i used limbo for the same thing

[strong field]

"thight "? Hmm hahaha

[late vessel]

Otherwise just use Nezha or something

[crystal zodiac]

they are my other main xd

[strong field]

I just use Booben a lot

It's just... Given

I love Vauban so much that 99% of content I am using him

1% is Loki and that is for spy missions

[crystal zodiac]

i swap between limbo yareli nezha atm

i dont have plat for orokin things for my other frames atm

[strong field]

It's fine

[crystal zodiac]

nokko is still my best frame just cus hes busted lmao

[strong field]

We all do that.... Like im still planning to get Hydroid

[crystal zodiac]

i just got hydroid actually they are fun

[strong field]

Have you gotten Uriel? He is by far the maddest frame

[crystal zodiac]

i have not

[strong field]

If you think Nokko is busted, then Uriel is 10x more

[crystal zodiac]

xd

[stray oasis]

i forgot that fleet footed decree is like crack to me i should do circuit more

[strong field]

The way his heat activates soooo much is insane

[strong field]

Fleet footed?

[stray oasis]

yeah

[strong field]

Oh the decree to make you vroom vroom the more decree you have?

[oblique sequoia]

Yeah

[strong field]

Oh! Damn I haven't use Decrees in some part hahahahah

[oblique sequoia]

It's funny to pick that up when farming resources LMAO

[strong field]

I just press and click whatever

[oblique sequoia]

You go faster on foot than on a Kaithe

[stray oasis]

i'm a gauss main it's a great combo for having fun and a terrible combo for not flying off the map

[strong field]

You he zooming like a kinetic land missile hahaha ong!

[oblique sequoia]

Fleet Footed Gauss Redline anyone?

[strong field]

Yip hahahah

I haven't use Gauss a lot I just use him in Circuits if I don't have any more frames to use

[chilly jungle]

give it a year then you going to move on to another frame 😭 ✌️

[strong field]

He is been dusted there

[stray oasis]

weak

[unreal ruin]

oh yeah that with guass makes you faster than light

[chilly jungle]

what

[unreal ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/enojado-gif-6930705070173779193

[oblique sequoia]

Y'know... When I was a new player, I just threw myself against the wall. Then I stopped playing for like almost 2 years, picked it back up and found out I apparently had all Octavia Prime components and she just entered Resurgence. So I got 10 of her main bp relics, refined it to max, and proceeded to get her on the first try LMAO

[strong field]

Jusy pass it out

[chilly jungle]

bro legit all you do is gauss is be invincible and mag dump your weapons 😭

[strong field]

Hahahaha bro

[unreal ruin]

btw guys, gonna go aya farming for plat. Whats the diff between deimos and cetus?

[oblique sequoia]

That's how I got Octavia as my first ever Prime

[late vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/he-made-a-statement-he-made-a-statement-so-ass-he-made-a-statement-so-ass-the-dog-is-leaving-the-dog-is-leaving-the-dog-gif-4290862585119423195

[strong field]

That is the point of Gauss hahahahahabab

[chilly jungle]

what mr are you

[gusty turtle]

That's not true

[strong field]

One is the corrupted moon of mars and one is on earth

[gusty turtle]

You forgot about thermal sunder

[strong field]

No I mean the point of my gauss

[late vessel]

Relevance?

[chilly jungle]

cetus bounties are faster

[strong field]

Ah the nuke

[chilly jungle]

yes its relevant ✌️

[unreal ruin]

my first prime was gauss, I got 2 parts of him randomly while playing pubs and because I always had my eyes on gauss ever since starting the game, I immediately went and bought the rest

[chilly jungle]

lower mr = gauss prime higher mr = other frames 😭

[late vessel]

25

[gusty turtle]

His Prime theme lyrics go

All my enemies are living in fear Stone cold killer in the atmosphere Flash freeze enemies and disappear

Thermal sunder is part of his personality

[unreal ruin]

thank you dude I didnt know that at all

[late vessel]

Keep assuming thing laith maybe one day you get closer to the truth

[unreal ruin]

oh alr then

[strong field]

My first prime is Xaku and I never had the emotion to delete this ass of a frame (my own opinion... Don't thrash at me)

[unreal ruin]

any tips for aya farming?

[strong field]

Your welcome, happy to help

[oblique sequoia]

If I'm being honest, I've only ever traded for 3, maybe 4 Primes. Vauban, Oberon, and I think I traded recently for Nekros and Nidus?? Unsure about Nidus

[gusty turtle]

What do you mean?

[strong field]

Might go and play Gauss back but.... Yeah maybe

[chilly jungle]

only reason people use sunder is for low lvl nuke or to get blast,cold or heat dmg 😭

[unreal ruin]

I still dont have xaku lmfao, I am too lazy to mine ores for his components

[gusty turtle]

Do you want to delete xaku or remove their ass?

Are you afraid of the size

[strong field]

Both.... (delete.... I'm just frustrated thinking of Xaku prime)

[oblique sequoia]

I was thinking of trading for Harrow Prime, but then I got his parts from doing extended SP Alchemy and Void Cascade Void Fissures on pub squads

[strong field]

...... Y-yes?...

[oblique sequoia]

Xaku Prime! I went out of my way to actually deliberately farm them!

[gusty turtle]

Lotus, I'm trying to finish a spy mission, but I'm dummy thicc, and the clap of my asscheeks keeps alerting the Grineer!

[oblique sequoia]

I think the only thing I don't have for Xaku Prime is the Trumna Prime

[strong field]

Bro I don't kmow how to use this frame bro... I suffered a lot with this frame

[oblique sequoia]

Bc Quassus Prime is my favorite Melee

[strong field]

XDDDDD

[oblique sequoia]

To be fair... They're very complicated to play

[unreal ruin]

nah everyone knows sevagoth is they cheeks frame

[gusty turtle]

He has thighs not cheeks

[unreal ruin]

or ember ig

[pallid talon]

there are many cheeks frames

[unreal ruin]

nuh uh also cheeks

[strong field]

Have you SEEN Valkyr's??????

[unreal ruin]

not really lol

dont have her

[strong field]

Oh it's the heirloom but yeah

[late vessel]

Funniest thing about Sevagoth is how skinny his base is compared to prime

[oblique sequoia]

Grasp of Lohk scales off of Range btw. So more Ability Range on Xaku, the weapons they can hold

And the enemy weapons you steal scales with the enemy levels

[strong field]

I know all of that, I know all of Xaku........ It's just she is too squishy I never wanted to touch them again

[oblique sequoia]

They

[gusty turtle]

The winner is actually Atlas Deluxe, but you all aren't ready for this conversation.

[oblique sequoia]

Xaku is non binary

[chilly jungle]

still feels bad

[pallid talon]

base skins only base valkyr doesn't even have a buttcrack

[strong field]

And the damage they have is so underwhelming....

[chilly jungle]

xaku probably only viable in lvl cap if you build him right 💔

[strong field]

The heirloom... When it's cheeks, is always the heirloom

[gusty turtle]

Why are people actively misgendering xaku

[pallid talon]

she got a bbl

[oblique sequoia]

Idk

[pallid talon]

artificially enhanced

not au naturale, like wisp

[strong field]

Eh.... Sorry reflexes when a character is non binary I go to the closest body type they have... Xaku looks like a woman to me (TO ME...... To. Me......) so I called Xaku she most of the time

[chilly jungle]

its a thing 💔

actually

[pallid talon]

xaku is legion change pronouns everytime you refer to them

[chilly jungle]

why do frames even have gender 😭 that only matters for the first generation

[strong field]

Yeah babab

[oblique sequoia]

No? It matters to all of them

[gusty turtle]

They are still body templates

[chilly jungle]

the one we make aren't alive at all

[gusty turtle]

With personalities attached

[oblique sequoia]

That's still not a reason to misgender them?

[late vessel]

Jade having a gender is really important

[gusty turtle]

Yeah

Mpreg Jade

[late vessel]

Mpreg grendel

[chilly jungle]

so i can call a box a girl because it says on the box its a girl ✌️💔

[gusty turtle]

He is pregnant with Gauss

[late vessel]

-10 knowledge on the lore

[oblique sequoia]

Ikr

[strong field]

Yeah I get that, sometimes I apologize a lot bc as for Xaku, what I explained earlier I go and call them to their nearest body type, Xaku looks like a woman..... To me....... So I called Xaku "she" a lot

[oblique sequoia]

I try my best. I used to call Temple a he before I learned they were also non binary

[strong field]

I'll try call them as "them"

[chilly jungle]

last time i looked all the warframes we make are just flesh bags with hard shells covering them ✌️

[umbral fulcrum]

should I buy it? x.x

[strong field]

Obv Vaubs is a Man so yeah

[gusty turtle]

Gender neutral stuff is probably a bit difficult with people whose first language is gendered

[oblique sequoia]

Vauban is male yes

[strong field]

Hmmm what do you mean?

[south girder]

Gang tryna say a warframe isn’t a person 😭

[gusty turtle]

English and some other languages have the concept of gender neutral pronouns, while a lot of other languages don't

So you learning english may still apply it

[oblique sequoia]

There are languages with gendered pronouns but no gender neutral ones. It's a weird language quirk and is fascinating at times

[south girder]

They don’t magically stop being people because they’ve been cloned from one big dawg

[late vessel]

We replicating someone tht got turned into flesh monster
That someone isn't a box or an inanimate object or whatever your logic js

[gusty turtle]

Like a random table being considered male

Or a fridge being female.

[south girder]

The only thing that’s missing is most of their mind
Play the sacrifice again or sum

[strong field]

Yeah I still have a lot to learn in English to be honest

[chilly jungle]

are you only replicating their body or is it everything about them

[strong field]

Can I call a fan, a male?

[umbral fulcrum]

no, but you can call a fan a bj xD

[gusty turtle]

Everything about them, no? Their body, their personality, their behavior and abilities

[late vessel]

Everything about them
Why do you think Umbra is still mad
Or why when we use Mirage we have weird idle pose

[strong field]

XDDDD SHUT UP!

[strong field]

Mirage has a weird idle pose?....

[chilly jungle]

we didn't craft umbra

[late vessel]

Brother

[gusty turtle]

Point stands

[strong field]

Hold yourself there

[heady copper]

not really

[gusty turtle]

Even Marie talks about it, feeling the original Wisp beside her

[heady copper]

otherwise ur not really speaking english that well imho

[strong field]

We go so far, from Xaku to Gender.... God damn what have we started hahabab

[gusty turtle]

And Drifter talks about taking up frame's habits and personalities when inhabiting them

[chilly jungle]

ok but are they still in that body or is it like ordis ✌️💔

[oblique sequoia]

Why are you even arguing about that?

Like what's the point here

[chilly jungle]

idk

[gusty turtle]

Uhh, their behavior and personality traits are packaged with the body??? Because Helminth is all consuming

[chilly jungle]

that doesn't make sense 💔

[gusty turtle]

Your mind keeps your memories and lived experience

If the original strain is your edited body, the body keeps it

No?

[strong field]

Point is, that Warframes are not just weapons

They still show emotions, behavior and personality through their lore

The characteristics of a human

That alone provides evidence that they are alive and are a person

Thus if this still about gender, they ARE still humans so think of that

[keen lintel]

what kind of 3 body problem we discussing

[gusty turtle]

Laith are you trolling

[strong field]

Otherwise this is going too far from a #gameplay-discussion

[oblique sequoia]

Ragebaiting more like it

[gusty turtle]

Same shit

[oblique sequoia]

Let's just move on

[chilly jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sageyonce-gif-20853661

[strong field]

So I suggest we stop because Alyxis might pop up and silence us

[chilly jungle]

how about ingame tho

[gusty turtle]

I'm going to go eat

[strong field]

Still the same

Again, from voices, to their skills to their sound design... It's all there

[oblique sequoia]

Lets move on guys. We're severely off topic

[strong field]

That's the thing

[chilly jungle]

this is about the gameplay ✌️💔

[strong field]

Nah, it's way too far Laith

I suggest we stop it and move on to this topic

Bottom point we all have opinions to who they are and what they are in game preferences

Done

That's it

[late vessel]

Ts ain't an opinion this is straight up wrong

[strong field]

I know, but just to move on, let's just agree to that

[oblique sequoia]

Warframe genders are integral to their origin and lore

That's all there is to it

[strong field]

Yeah that should be the conclusion

OK let's change this shit up

[glossy violet]

which of the frames would smoke weed and would the drifter pick up the habit

[oblique sequoia]

Anyways, later I'm gonna do my Simaris task and then farm more standing on an SP open landscape instance lol

[strong field]

How the fck do you use Yareli tho?

[oblique sequoia]

I need more Exilus Adapters

[late vessel]

With or without loyal merulina

[strong field]

She is been In my inventory just being dusted off

[oblique sequoia]

Merulina bc she gets a damage reduction

[strong field]

Eh both if possible, but I like that summon beside her so With Loyal

[oblique sequoia]

I use Yareli as a Melee frame tho

[strong field]

Isn't she a sec weapon platformer? (base on passive

[oblique sequoia]

Aquablades + Hate Incarnon goes crazy with a full Gladiator set

[gusty turtle]

Mesa

[oblique sequoia]

Yes but I like playing her as a Melee bc of the extra damage from Aquablades XD

[strong field]

From all of the frames... Mesa huh hahahahah

[gusty turtle]

I wouldn't mind better suggestions though

[strong field]

Fair nuff

[oblique sequoia]

Loyal Merulina for me, too

[gusty turtle]

Excalibur Zato has a smoking idle

[oblique sequoia]

I wanna get that skin pack... I love the stance on the Noble Idle bc it's hot

[strong field]

I still need to figure out how to play her before going to her big brother Hydroid hahahah

[pallid talon]

yeah but with loyal merulina her other abilities make her an amazing general weapons platform

[oblique sequoia]

Truth right here

[pallid talon]

grouping with riptide and a hilariously strong damage buff with sea snares

[oblique sequoia]

Right?

[pallid talon]

why can sea snares stack multiplicatively

[oblique sequoia]

Bc they can

[glossy violet]

Exalted Bongs

[pallid talon]

900% dmg buff at 300 strength

[glossy violet]

Bongulators

[oblique sequoia]

LMAO

[strong field]

Huh I might consider Yarelli

[glossy violet]

weed in a pipe is a sick idea

[strong field]

Thing is how do you build around her tho? What's her focused builds

[gusty turtle]

DE are working on warframe animation sets for drifter by the way

[pallid talon]

i run a hyper negative duration build for riptide spam, but that's a weird way to build her

[oblique sequoia]

Bruh, the speed at which I built the Ventkids Bash Lab in my Dojo and researched her component blueprints is still crazy

Like I wanted to play her that bad back in the day

[random solstice]

i wish they made ashes shadows attack quicker

[strong field]

Well as you mentioned she has good CC as I used her before but as for MR.... And then I forgot about her existing

[strong field]

Nah it's fast enough

[oblique sequoia]

Now she has a Prime and I couldn't be happier

[pallid talon]

i have another build that takes advantage of riptide's ragdoll with pyrotechnics

[oblique sequoia]

Btw, what's the Archon Mod that boots energy drops when you kill an enemy with a cold status ability?

[pallid talon]

the duration on that build is a little longer

[random solstice]

maybe just with mods

[oblique sequoia]

Is that good on Yareli bc her stuff has innate cold?

[strong field]

Hmmm I would say no subsume yet, bc idk what to give her (probably Omamori on Aqua blades for comfy lazy survival

[strong field]

You can proc blast then hahaha

[pallid talon]

that's like hyperlazy survival

merulina is already a survival beast

[oblique sequoia]

I used to spam Sea Snares on defense missions and just watch them fly around like homing landmines

[strong field]

Yeah, that's the only thing I want to know... How do you build around her... Is there a concept build Iyou can show?

[oblique sequoia]

I think the innate cold is separate from other status sources

I wish we could put like... K-drive mods on Merulina. Like the movement ones, at least

So then I'd have a reason to be a hoverboard girlie

With the Ocucor

[strong field]

.... I have Dual Toxo hahahah

[oblique sequoia]

Hahahaha

[strong field]

Imma be a savage Cutie with dual pistols

[oblique sequoia]

The fact that Yareli is one of the biggest Ballas trolls is still my favorite Warframe lore

[pallid talon]

here's my secondary weapons platform build I run with my akarius

super negative duration for riptide spam

[strong field]

Hyperneg dura golly

[pallid talon]

and I just don't use sea snares

[oblique sequoia]

Sea Snares on that duration would be bad, yes

[strong field]

Wait does Sea snares rely on dura?

[pallid talon]

yeah

to keep them trapped

[strong field]

The CC part.... 1 and 4....hmmm (I'm discarding 3 already bc Omamori would be that slot or Nourish)

[oblique sequoia]

You can probably subsume Brightbonnet on that for some Energy recovery and increased ability strength if you wanted... No wait the duration would be bad on that, too

[pallid talon]

the hyperneg duration gets balanced out by the efficiency

[oblique sequoia]

I had Efficiency on the brain, sorry 😭

[pallid talon]

sea snares is just a nice thing merulina piles on sometimes

[oblique sequoia]

Oh yeah for sure

[pallid talon]

i have a gas akarius, so the sea snares still get some use from the lingering clouds

[strong field]

So a quick Sea snare won't work.... I guess it won't bc it travels slow

or it activated as soon at it hits the enemies

[pallid talon]

sea snares linger forever if they're not attached to an enemy

[oblique sequoia]

^

[pallid talon]

so you can leave them sit in a choke or something

[oblique sequoia]

This is why I spread them around defense objectives as landmines

"landmines"

You know what I mean lol

[pallid talon]

this is an ultra specific way to build yareli though, and she definitely does benefit from duration

sea snare nuking wants duration

[strong field]

Oh! So the DV (Damage Vulnerability) happens the more dura you have? Or it's just as soon as it touches them

[pallid talon]

just as soon as it touches them, the timer starts

[oblique sequoia]

Yeah this is why I love Warframe. There are so many ways to build stuff

[pallid talon]

so you want duration

[strong field]

So the DV cancels as soon as the dura is gone

[pallid talon]

yes

[strong field]

OK so I won't go your build but I might change it around tbh

I saved your build in my phone ski can have a referece

[oblique sequoia]

Yeah this is why I go melee on mine. Actually I kinda Prime status specifically for Heat on her because of the Hate Augment

[pallid talon]

the hardest thing to get on my build is probably the r5 hot shot

it took a few weeks

[oblique sequoia]

Oof R5 hotshot. Congrats on having it wow

I'm getting there. But it'll be slow. I can't confidently do ETA yet

Only done it twice

[pallid talon]

i do my etas with an exalted weapon warframe

makes the random loadouts hurt less

also if you have the gravimag, the archguns are great for when you don't have gear embargo

[oblique sequoia]

A good Archgun could also work. Especially now that we can put 2 arcanes on them

[pure gulch]

surely gamba blesses you

[oblique sequoia]

I feel like Secondary Fortifier would work great for survivability. But Enervate gets more damage output for something like the Larkspur

[gusty turtle]

Archguns definitely go a long way in Archimedia

Until gear embargo rolls around

[oblique sequoia]

It did! I did a 5 pull 2 days ago and got 2 Hotshot!

[pallid talon]

i'd keep survivability options on the Warframe, since weapons need all they can get for damage buffs

[strong field]

OK so what's a good Sea snare + riptide build?

What would be the balanced state

[oblique sequoia]

I'll keep that in mind, thank you!

[pallid talon]

probably a good spread on all the stats, but prioritizing strength, then subsuming roar over aquablades

could probably afford to dump efficiency, since sea snares is cheap to cast

and while there's a limit to how many snares can be on the field at one time, you can have an infinite amount of enemies snared

the cap is 15

[oblique sequoia]

I was gonna ask lol

I haven't done Sea Snares spamming in a while so I forgot the limit

[unreal ruin]

so I wanna learn a bit more about priming in general, I keep on hearing people say to viral prime. Why should I viral prime my enemies?

[strong field]

Strength is need more for her.... Hmmm then my build for Vauban would work

The question is, is Yareli spammy?

[pallid talon]

viral doubles damage recieved by enemies on the first syack

[pallid talon]

yes

mash snares in the middle of enemies

[pure gulch]

if you use loyal merulina on yareli merulina shoots out sea snares with cooldown based on efficiency

[strong field]

A Vauban set it is

[oblique sequoia]

Yareli is pretty much a caster frame

[pallid talon]

my build is a riptide spam build

[unreal ruin]

whats the best way to viral prime then?

[pallid talon]

subsuming nourish, but that won't fit on every build

i get my viral from either a panzer vulpaphyla or the kompressa

[unreal ruin]

oooh I own a panzer

[strong field]

There are a lot of ways

3 most Popular are

Diriga the Sentinel
Nourish for frames
And Panzer as it's a good viral primer

[pallid talon]

viral quils+ duplex bond

[oblique sequoia]

Kompressa is a really funny weapon bc what do you mean this bubble gun can do that amount of damage

[unreal ruin]

I heard panzers the best pet apparently so I'll go with panzer

[strong field]

Yeah a Vauban build would be good for her

I migjt remove Cata and fast Deflection for more comfy build but itll work

[oblique sequoia]

Panzer is my favorite. Viral Quills is guaranteed Viral, right? So if you have Shocking Claws, it'll proc both?

[strong field]

For viral priming? Yes! damage wise? No

[pallid talon]

pet meta is quite diverse

[unreal ruin]

I heard its really good at being a jack of all trades

[strong field]

Sunika is the highest damaging pet right?

With Mecha set

[oblique sequoia]

My Panzer does great damage. Especially with Duplex Bond

[pallid talon]

idk I don't dabble in pets much

[strong field]

Fair

[pallid talon]

I grabbed the bite mod so I could load bond mods onto my panzer

[oblique sequoia]

Viral Quills with Shocking Claws actually procs Archon Stretch a lot and is great for your energy economy

[strong field]

I need to go to sleep, so see ya guys

[oblique sequoia]

Sleep well!

[unreal ruin]

oh dam didnt know

[pallid talon]

good night

[oblique sequoia]

It's pretty reliable when your caster has no effective way to keep recovering energy

Unless your Oberon with Equilibrium spamming Reckoning lol

I replaced Primed Flow with that on Oberon and I don't think I'm ever going back

[unreal ruin]

nah I mainly play gauss and volt prime

[oblique sequoia]

Lol. Fair enough

I have stuff to do now. See you guys later!

[amber trench]

diriga

[gusty turtle]

Deereega

[rugged shore]

panzer spreads viral far but its not a lot of stacks so i wouldnt really super rely on it for actual priming? its nice for a stack for it

[pallid canyon]

so will diriga and hound with their abilities/mods

shocking claws will also proc melee influence lol

[pallid canyon]

its generally the best viral priming companion specifically for blind AOE nuking frames
It only really has issues with positioning as it likes to be 8 billion miles away from you priming things you cant even see

so its not my recommendation for platformers

[spare summit]

So apprently, priming with Wrathful Advance is a crazy combo, even more crazy is with Collective Curse

[marble rover]

[umbral fulcrum]

Is this worth gettin or wait for a cold/magnetic variant? :V

[subtle trail]

yikes

[oblique sequoia]

Oh that's amazing LMAO

[oblique sequoia]

Oh no...

[oblique sequoia]

I mean if you wanna do an Influence build on it, it might go crazy

[umbral fulcrum]

temptin....

[pallid canyon]

influence is arguably a must for caustacyst

[oblique sequoia]

That's a nice meaty status chance, too

[pallid canyon]

it serves a super specific niche as a priming tool

[amber trench]

I mean, it's alright

[oblique sequoia]

Bro

[umbral fulcrum]

but can I also add viral and heat to it without loosin shocki damaj?

[pallid canyon]

to causta? dont add heat
you want either viral or gas

[oblique sequoia]

I'd say go Gas yeah

[pallid canyon]

the caustacysts gimmick is that it leaves puddles of corrosive on heavy attacks

[spare summit]

LOL

[umbral fulcrum]

go gas eat ass, oki o.o

[pallid canyon]

you dont use it to kill everything, you use it to spread corrosive everywhere

[oblique sequoia]

2 lingering area denials. Damn that's kinda good, actually

[pallid canyon]

i second this

[oblique sequoia]

Really good, I should say

[pallid canyon]

but yeah, you should be priming even if you arent using wrathful advance

[spare summit]

Also he could teleport to vitoplast too

Amazing holy hell

[amber trench]

I wasn't even using Kullervo

That was nerfed Wrathful lol

[oblique sequoia]

Sometimes I look at Warframes with really tedious farms and I just think of trading plat to buy them outright

[amber trench]

no

[oblique sequoia]

Because I do not want a repeat of what happened to me with Gauss

[amber trench]

Gauss farm ain't even hard
It's just rotation C disruption

And then gems

[oblique sequoia]

Yes but I was so unlucky it took me 3 years

[amber trench]

Did you do four and leave

[oblique sequoia]

No

Extended runs on the proper rotations

[amber trench]

I farmed a whole Gauss in a couple hours

[oblique sequoia]

I got really unlucky 😭

[spare summit]

Subsumed you mean?

[amber trench]

Same difference

[spare summit]

Anyway, isn't that hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby meme?

[amber trench]

Was running wrathful wisp

[spare summit]

I see

[spare summit]

Breached surge Kullervo

That's a thing apparently

[amber trench]

Breach surge anything is a thing

Breach surge Limbo is a thing

Rift Torrent applies to sparks

Breach surge is just too strong

Very good all around helminth

[oblique sequoia]

I saw someone mention Aquablades Atlas one time

Long ago

[spare summit]

Yeah

[oblique sequoia]

Is Wisp's Mote Augment good?

[rugged shore]

its basically just qol

unless you are soloing where its detrimental because you dont really want to shock mote

[oblique sequoia]

I do want to Shock Mote bc Archon Stretch

So I can spam more Breach Surge

[idle fossil]

oh yay, netracell got me a shard finally... a blue....

[oblique sequoia]

Right I do want Topaz Shards... Maybe I will suck it up and collect more yellow shards

[pallid canyon]

no, but its optional QOL

if you’re optimizing, you dont want it as it forces you to use shock mote

[oblique sequoia]

Well I'm more interested in the qol of it and I do definitely want the shock effect as well

[pallid canyon]

if you always want shockmote and such, use it

[oblique sequoia]

That's good to know

[pallid canyon]

People hate it in defense missions, that stuffs

[rugged shore]

shock mote will kill your stealth damage bonus if you solo, unless you arent trying to take advantage of that so its whatever i guess

[pallid canyon]

I personally never use shock motes because it removes the first hit bonus on invisibility

[pallid canyon]

this only applies to people using generic Contagion/Glaive builds and the likes

if you’re just gunrunning its not an issue

[oblique sequoia]

I don't mind losing stealth

[rugged shore]

i mean not using them on wisp and taking advantage of the stealth multiplier is a shame

huge free damage

[pallid canyon]

usually unneeded though

i find it entertaining but lots of people wont and thats ok

if you want to use shockmote wisp, use shockmote wisp

i’d take it off if you play defense in publics though

[oblique sequoia]

I haven't really had any complaints yet

[pallid canyon]

most people arent vocal

[oblique sequoia]

I guess that's true

[pallid canyon]

what are they gonna do? tell you to stop using a whole ability?

its a part of being in publics

but at the same time, part of being in publics is also courtesy

[oblique sequoia]

I'll keep that in mind tho, thank you!

I didn't know people generally don't like it in defense

[pallid canyon]

yeah, it slows down the mission

any slowing ability is frowned upon

[oblique sequoia]

I just like my Archon Stretch going brr tbh

More opportunities to use Breach Surge

[rugged shore]

2 energy a sec is nice to have but i doubt it affects how much you spam an ability, more of a nice bonus

[oblique sequoia]

Yeah, that's what I'm aiming for, really

[jade blade]

My one-year old 400 plat waiting to be spent for wolf woman prime

[oblique sequoia]

Who?

Oh Voruna

[red holly]

soon

[cobalt wadi]

does animation packs of titania/wisp changes walking animation or only idle one? i want to use it on my nekros

[gusty turtle]

Soon, this year, after Styanax

I wonder what prime accessories she'll get

[smoky steeple]

Are there any weapons that have the entire ammunition capacity as one large magazine? i.e. if 540 is your default carrying capacity, your weapon holds all 540 rounds in one big magazine; if 1080 is your capacity, your weapon holds all 1080, etc

[red holly]

are we counting weapons that have recharging ammo?

[jade blade]

I beg DE to make Wolf woman even curvier

i shall pay 300 plat for it DE hahahha

[foggy rivet]

Is progenitor bonus multiplicative or additive to something?

[red holly]

it's like a mod, additive

[foggy rivet]

Additive to what? Normal damage or elemental damage mods?

[red holly]

normal damage

just like elemental mods

[visual escarp]

Does this lich have the ephemera or however you spell it

[rich valley]

Yes

[smoky steeple]

idk which weapons have regenerating ammo, and I'm not referring to weapons with infinite ammo (like nataruk)

[visual escarp]

Should I sell him?

[pallid canyon]

its a toss up since she got an upgraded version of her ephemera in her deluxe

[red holly]

I think that's vengeful trickster

[visual escarp]

And how would I even sell them

[rich valley]

if someone wants him

[visual escarp]

How would I sell him

[pallid canyon]

converted liches are tradable

[visual escarp]

Like on warframe.market?

Can I sell him there

[red holly]

there are battery weapons that have magazine with ammo that replenishes over time

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Category:Battery_Weapons

[smoky steeple]

no, that's not it

hm

There may not be any, and that's fine

i was just wondering

[gusty turtle]

All bows are like that, kinda?

[red holly]

I think the closest would be Epitaph

[gusty turtle]

Bows have one single clip

And second best is having weapons that only hold 2 mag dumps as ammo max

[red holly]

epitaph doesn't require reloading and has a clip of 1 round

[gusty turtle]

It does? Huh

[eager bone]

Can someone invite me to a nightmare mission? I finished earth yesterday but still dont see a nightmare mission on the planet?

[smoky steeple]

I'm thinking of the Bullet King from Division 2 where, if your maximum carried ammo is 1140, the gun has 1140 bullets in its magazine

[gusty turtle]

Wait.... Doesn't it make epitapth a secondary bow

Epitaph is a secondary bow

[smoky steeple]

if your maximum carried ammo is 2200, the gun has 2200 bullets in the mag

[red holly]

it's considered a pistol

[gusty turtle]

It's a secondary bow, it can be charged and doesn't need reloading

[gusty turtle]

Oh, nah, nothing like that

[smoky steeple]

shucks

[red holly]

yeah, kinda

it's the only bow-like pistol I guess

there is a weapon that can achieve 100% ammo efficiency though

ax-52

grakata and viper as long as you are headshotting with a mod

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Ammo#Ammo_Efficiency

[chilly jungle]

ballistica or whatever it was called

[red vale]

How rare to get 75 % plat discount

[red holly]

close enough, it's a crossbow. but who would remember what ballistica is? has anyone seen anyone use it?

[violet arch]

do slams still make sense? are there any slam melee weapons that are still good for clearing rooms? Like sampotes with its waves which dont scale with height?

[chilly jungle]

ive seen a video on how you can double scan enemies with it and thats all

[red holly]

to be honest, slams do so much damage there are a bunch of strong slam weapons, mostly hammers due to their high base damage and best slam radius, but the slam radius still scales with height

[violet arch]

i think the easiest way is probably creating a new account and leaving it inactive for some time, and trading it to your main, but im not sure if thats allowed or something.

[red holly]

the most popular slam weapon is probably magistar incarnon

[amber trench]

magistar/Sancti Magistar, Sibear, Arca Titron, Ruvox, Furax just off the top of my head

[red holly]

I've also used coda motovore as a slam weapon

[violet arch]

yeah i use dark sword and with current build without tauforged purple shards it still can do something like 100+ mil of dmg with the right frame but the fact that i have to jump to the roof everytime i want to kill something kind of throws me off

[amber trench]

Coda Mire

[red holly]

dark sword is strong, the alternative is coda mire

[violet arch]

but it scales with height as well?

[red holly]

all slam radius scale with height

[violet arch]

yeah but im asking if there is a weapon for example with a mechanic similar to sampotes whose waves dont scale with height

im quite sure the damage or the waves radius dont scale with height'

[red holly]

not sure, but all slams scale with height since the 2025 update where the slams were changed

I don't remember if there were weapons that have some kind of special slams that don't scale with height

[pallid canyon]

I personally really like an afflictions mire

[amber trench]

Tenet exec

[red holly]

but are those shockwaves slams?

I think it's something separate

[turbid pivot]

Gas Honse stocks.

[void otter]

do the helmets in nightwave have a certain rotation to them or are they completely random

[oblique sequoia]

I think they're random. I haven't paid attention enough to see if it's a forced random thing or fully random bc there are so many alt helmets to keep track of

What I mean is, I didn't notice if a helmet appears twice in a row

[void otter]

mhm

then ill wait 2 days maybe harrow helmet shows up (i didnt buy it for some reason last time it was in stock)

[dim mirage]

Can I use ore gaze on nekros or only atlas?

[red holly]

yes you can and it's a combination people use

[dim mirage]

Sweet I’m building a farming frame

[red holly]

Nekros is your guy

[oblique sequoia]

If it's the Harrow helmet I'm thinking of, I really wanna buy it, too

[void otter]

So tempting indeed

his base helm just looks like shit

[chilly jungle]

darksword got glazed hard yet it does no dmg for me ✌️💔

do i need kullervo subsume

[pallid canyon]

it was specifically advertised for certain slam spam builds

it was mostly just market hype to drive riven prices up in a cornered market

but its still pretty good for it

[sour oxide]

My main frame but i came to dislike the augment

[chilly jungle]

yeah i tried it

but at most i did like 1 mil dmg

[pallid canyon]

to which i repeat

[red holly]

you need slam attack damage mods and nira mods

[pallid canyon]

are nira mods additive to base damage or multiplicactive to final damage

[chilly jungle]

nira mods on warframe or what

[short slate]

why is the planet red

[red holly]

yes

[chilly jungle]

do they increase it by that much 😭 ??

[random solstice]

that time of the month

[red holly]

nira mods are multiplicative to slam damage but additive to seismic wave mod

[red holly]

yes, very much

[pallid canyon]

noted

[random solstice]

go easy on earth she going through it

[red holly]

300% damage increase with 2 nira's set mods

[chilly jungle]

so i need a frame to focus on slam builds 💔

[sour oxide]

You got a lich

[pallid canyon]

on the bright side one of them is an exilus mod

[red holly]

no

[short slate]

what does that mean tho. i have a lich icon in the bottom but idk what i gotta do for that or if i lose something if i dont do it

[red holly]

you will not lose anything

[chilly jungle]

how much dmg do you even do with the dark sword

[sour oxide]

You preformed a "secret mercy" when you do that you activate a lich

[red holly]

I don't know I don't use dark sword

[chilly jungle]

ok how about magistar + nira mods 😭

[lofty garden]

Liches just put stuff into escrow.

[red holly]

I don't use magistar either

[chilly jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sageyonce-gif-20853661

then why would you use nira mods ✌️

[sour oxide]

@short slate i can explain in private if you don't want to use the wiki

[red holly]

there are more weapons that work with slams than dark sword and magistar

[tall shadow]

can someone come to relay and buff credits please

[red holly]

I've used it on coda mire and coda motovore

coda mire is similar to dark sword when it comes to slams

[pallid canyon]

but with one mod corrosive/gas 😍

[chilly jungle]

ok then how much dmg did you do with nira and without it

[round ledge]

can i farm dante through teh bounty or do i have to go from star chart?

[pallid canyon]

nira mods are multiplicative to final damage dealt

[short slate]

are these the only galvanized mods i can buy?

[lofty garden]

dante is just the disruption node in sanctum

[sour oxide]

Yes those are the only galvanized in game

[round ledge]

so it doesnt matter if i do it through the bounty?

[short slate]

i already got chamber. i cant tell if the others are worth getting and investing in

[chilly jungle]

i dont feel like using 2 mod slots for those mods unless my frame is purely going to be slam spam ✌️💔

[short slate]

i feel like primed mods seem better just harder to get

[lofty garden]

What bounty? Dante comes from Armatus, Deimos.

[pallid canyon]

only one will more than double your damage