gameplay-discussion

[worthy comet]

Spy likely still uses regular spy loot tables

[lost geyser]

oh it was either spy or rescue

my b

[wintry rampart]

so i just do rescure nightmare

[lost geyser]

whats the reqs for each rota on rescue?

[wintry rampart]

im trying to get this https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Lethal_Torrent

[oblique sequoia]

I want Hammer Shot lol

Guess I have to do rescue missions

[fair ibex]

yo still wanna trade 🙂

[lost geyser]

u still need which mod again

[fair ibex]

sec let me find the name

[lost geyser]

ye just dm me

[vale falcon]

C is when torrent can drop, so on the 5 planets shown here or do all 3 rescue requirements, hard to actually get A in rescue as alarms rarely go off in them

[vale geyser]

if DE is fine with influence meta, they could at least make so you can mix base elements easier so its not a straight up downside that a weapon is base heat or toxin

[lofty garden]

You have magnetic, radiation, and blast.

[void otter]

whats the strongest enemy i can have in simulacrum? and where do i find it

[vale geyser]

the issue isn't the mix ins, its that to make a base heat weapon do electric you need 3 element mods.

[lofty garden]

So don't use a weapon with heat.

[oblique sequoia]

Oh I got Lethal Torrent. Apparently I don't have that yet

[fair ibex]

day 3 of trying to get all the corrupted mods i want - game is not obliging

[somber cedar]

Hey guys what's up, just wondering is it really true when you buy a heirloom skin say particular for tomorrow with Vauba Heirloom you get different things if you buy with real money versus plat? I ust want to make sure if theres such difference.

[pure gulch]

think the main difference usually is that the real money version of the pack has some plat with it but the contents otherwise should be pretty similar I believe

the packs have a table of content anyways before you buy them so you can compare them

[somber cedar]

Oh so w/ realy money always comes with an extra plat ok just want to ask first before the heirloom drop tomorrow.

[pure gulch]

yeah they have a bit of plat extra since you're actually spending money and not just plat

but like I said you can see what each pack has before buying to decide for yourself

[somber cedar]

Thanks for the info

[modest canopy]

is there no way to get the archgun deployer without having rank 5 in forutna and doing profit taker

[pure gulch]

yeah you gotta do the profit taker heist

[modest canopy]

that sucks

just got the kuva grattler thinking id be able to use it and now i gotta spend a week grinding fortuna bounties and waiting for daily resets 😪

[wary nova]

What is a decent secondary to use these days?
Been looking at Pyrana Prime, Grimoire and Akstilletto prime a bit. But I have no idea how to really know if its useful or not going into steel path.

Any of these that are especially useful?
Akbolto Prime
Akjagara prime
Ballistica prime
Tombfinger
Catchmoon
Gaze
aklex prime
arca scisco
spira prime

[shy wedge]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Nightmare_Mode Find the Mission Rewards section to see which planets is A, B, or C if non rescue and how A, B, or C works in Rescue missions

personally I recommend non rescue missions but if you like those missions then just follow the rescue objectives

[rugged shore]

Tombfinger is still pretty good iirc

Rest are old and have expired

[sullen sleet]

Furis, Akarius Prime, Sepulcrum, Dual Toxocyst

those are some of the best rn

[coarse basin]

kuva nukor, tenet cycron too ofc

[pallid talon]

da kompressa

[coarse basin]

epitaph if you prime

[wary nova]

Akarius I only have the BP for so far, Dual toxocyst is only good if you have the incarnon right?

[pallid talon]

the funny bubble gun

[coarse basin]

those who prime

[rugged shore]

you can go off the assumption that if a weapon has an incarnon adapter available there is not much reason to use them without

[sullen sleet]

Kompressa Prime...

[wary nova]

yeah that was my assumtion. I do have Dual Toxocyst, but haven't really invested into it or used it after I maxed it years ago.

[pallid talon]

giving the highest status output gun in the game innate viral was definitely the decision of all time

[coarse basin]

pyrana's ok if you enjoy more recoil than wisp on a trampoline

[rugged shore]

you just missed the adapters im p sure so rip

plenty of other non incarnon options mentioned above either way

to add to those some off top of my head is plinx and laetum

[coarse basin]

idk if ocucor was mentioned

[rugged shore]

no it wasnt? ocucor also great

caviat of needs an augment mod

[coarse basin]

dual coda torxocyst

[sullen sleet]

battacor

oh wait thats primary

[pallid talon]

the torxica is also really nice yeah

[wary nova]

no worries. I am not really in a hurry. I might look into if akarius prime is available in relics or on market

[pallid talon]

lowkey like it better than the toxocyst, but that's because i don't like incarnon weapons

[sullen sleet]

deep breath The Onos

[rugged shore]

balefire charger is a secondary

[sullen sleet]

only usable with augment

no one in their right mind would use balefire raw without Gale

[pallid talon]

so are the regulators

[coarse basin]

raw

[rugged shore]

still outdoes most secondaries tbh

[coarse basin]

well yeah

[rugged shore]

hildryn moment

[coarse basin]

but still aegis gale carries

[rugged shore]

ngl been using garuda the last couple days as pure caster i did not shoot a weapon for a while now

[sullen sleet]

balefire is literally epitaph but charge shot only

[coarse basin]

so do enervate and expertise, kinda

[sullen sleet]

how tf do you do pure caster garuda

[coarse basin]

well it has rlly low status base no?

[sullen sleet]

low status low crit

[coarse basin]

enervate fixes crit but nothing fixes status

flat status arcane when

[sullen sleet]

we can get secondary crux if they give us primary enervate

[rugged shore]

like this

[vale geyser]

kinda my entire point. As is, melee weapons doing cold, toxin, or heat baseline are persona non grata

[sullen sleet]

do you just spam nourish then blending talons

[rugged shore]

no lol

her 1 is a giga nuke

[sullen sleet]

do you just bounce around enemies with her 1 then charge it up and nuke

[rugged shore]

ill show an example

[coarse basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/835870618422870057/1011170663450554408/jerma-reaction.gif

[modest canopy]

love when i click on the thermia fracture event and i get put in a lobby of people just afk farming, mining, or fishing lol

[red path]

better find a premade squad in recruiting or in fortuna hub chat

[oblique sequoia]

I would like to apologize for this behavior bc I do this 😭

[red path]

or just solo them, it's not that difficult if you don't put all 4 canisters

[oblique sequoia]

I try to keep solo when just farming open landscapes, but I forget sometimes

[rugged shore]

@sullen sleet

you have no LOS checks so everything just explodes

[wary nova]

wait did you guys say the plinx was good? is that with an incarnon?

[coarse basin]

tenet plinx

[modest canopy]

yeah i forget all the time but when ppl start bounties i just help out, free standing + rewards and i can go back to doing whatever i was doing when its done, just annoying that I cant find people actually doing the thermia fractures

are the amalgam mods even worth the trouble

[oblique sequoia]

I like the Daikyu one

[rugged shore]

it is nichely good in that it is probably the highest single target damage weapon when you set it up

can nuke bosses to hell

[red path]

there is tenet plinx and it's a decent gun

I use it for profit taker, too lazy to make sicarus build

[wary nova]

ahhh I am leveling the normal plinx atm

[oblique sequoia]

I think Amalgam Organ Shatter would be good on the Tonkatt bc that one wants to be constantly building the combo counter to activate the passive

So I'd say Amalgam mods have their uses

[rain loom]

hey wich element should i get for my kuva lich ?

[coarse basin]

im way too lazy to get sicarus prime, and incarnon, and evolve it, and forma it like 5 times, and build it

im ok with my 6 minute PT kills

[coarse basin]

depends

what weapon

[lost geyser]

Zarr

[red path]

I get 4 min with plinx, idk if sicarus will make it any faster

[rugged shore]

sicarus proccing multiple element in one burst is pretty big, but honestly if you arent gonna use it for anything else idk if its worth bothering with leveling + formas + farming duviri

like maybe if you run taker a ton?

[red path]

I have everything, just need to forma and think about build, which i don't want to

[rugged shore]

maybe you just need an eta week to jumpstart you

[red path]

I have atlas for both eta and eda this week, no weapons needed

[rugged shore]

wait

[queen iris]

Yo so I’m having a problem all of my warframe health got reduced but idk why they all modded as well ?? Anyway to fix this

[rugged shore]

they can repeat gear between eta and eda?

[oblique sequoia]

I consumed all the Khora Prime relics I have and didn't get the part I wanted

[red path]

it's random so there is a chance you get same thing for both

[rugged shore]

do you have a dragon key item in your gear wheel?

[queen iris]

Yea what bout it

[rugged shore]

read the description

[oblique sequoia]

That reduces HP... Bleeding Dragon Key

[queen iris]

Makes sense… I want it gone

[red path]

each key has a debuff: hp, shields, speed, damage

[oblique sequoia]

You do need them to open Orokin Vaults in Deimos derelicts tho

[red path]

you can rightclick it in arsenal to remove from gear wheel (idk what button you need to press on controller)

[queen iris]

I can’t get rid of it…

[oblique sequoia]

You remove it in the arsenal on your orbiter

[queen iris]

It keeps coming back

[oblique sequoia]

The Gear Wheel tab

[queen iris]

😭😭 I removed it

[obsidian ridge]

Question: what did they retouch of vauban?

[queen iris]

It won’t leaveeeeeee

It keeps coming back

[rugged shore]

pretty much every ability got some qol updates

[obsidian ridge]

What?

[obsidian ridge]

Gotcha

[lost geyser]

Restart the game

[red path]

there is a whole article about it on forum, but nothing is certain until we see actual patch notes

[red path]

there is a wasteful but radical measure: you can sell them from inventory

[rugged shore]

we dont have concrete numbers but id imagine all the ideas are the same

[obsidian ridge]

Just have to wait and see I guess

[rain loom]

hammer looking one

[queen iris]

Oh good

[red path]

just don't sell blueprints

[queen iris]

I can’t sell it

….

It won’t leave and I can’t sell it

I can’t get rid of it I want it goneeee

[red path]

can't you just put some random gear over it?

[queen iris]

Nvmmmmm

It gone finally

😭😭 I got health again

Why would u even use it anyway…

Special perk to it or just nerfs u

[red path]

for riven challenges, and for corrupted mods

[queen iris]

Ohhh

Well

Finally it gone ty

[red path]

long ago it was used in place of catalysing shields mod

[wintry rampart]

how tf do i get this

[red path]

they drop from juggernaut

[rugged shore]

severed ball sac? you already know how to get it.......

[wintry rampart]

as u can see i dropped 8x other and not a single bile sac

yes i know its from jugernaut but wtf

[red path]

jugg drop bp and one of 4 parts

[wintry rampart]

so low chance?

[red path]

it's random which one it drop

it's like farming wisp from ropalolyst

[wintry rampart]

i thought maybe there was something i was missing, ok, i will keep trying

[lofty garden]

Rebb has presents. Megan is going skiing.

Steve "Two Hats" Sinclair

[atomic zinc]

At what point do I have to worry about lich showing up to steal my loot? I just got done with the second dream quest. 😭

[lofty garden]

you have to instigate a lich

On a Grineer tileset, when the lights flicker, murder 10 enemies in 30 seconds. A "sujjeck" will be selected and highlighted with a red marker. Once you down it, you can look over its head to see what weapon it has. Ignore it if you don't want the weapon, mercy kill it and the lich process starts.

[atomic zinc]

Oh no 😭

I thought the lights flickering meant the stalker was going to show up

[red path]

as long as you don't use parazon on the lich larvling nothing will start

[worthy comet]

it depends on what color is flashing, if it's red, stalker is comin, if it's another color, something else is coming

[atomic zinc]

ough that’s scary

[worthy comet]

eh, you can handle it

[oblique sequoia]

I remember being a new player and getting clapped by the Stalker in less than a second

[red path]

yeah, stalker is not the only one, there is syndicate kill squads, grustragr, zanuka

[oblique sequoia]

There was a time where I'd abandon missions bc of him LMAO

[oblique sequoia]

You know, I appreciate syndicate kill squads bc they give you access to their respective spectres even when you're negative rep with them

[atomic zinc]

I was told he had a 2% chance of spawning and then I got him twice during a single play session

2% my foot

[oblique sequoia]

LMAO

He was out to get you

[atomic zinc]

he hates my ass fr

he hates my operator for their joy and whimsy

[oblique sequoia]

Breaking... Stalker hates local child soldier

Absolutely despises them

[static prism]

i changed my pledge from cephalon suda to the perrin sequence but i dont see any syndicates of perrin sequence in navigation?

[oblique sequoia]

You will get them when you reach rank 1

Or tomorrow when it refreshes, iirc

[static prism]

but how do i reach rank one without doing syndicates?

[oblique sequoia]

Your pledge gets you passive standing on all the missions you do

If you're not getting any more points today, you've maxed out your daily standing limit

Relay Syndicates share one bar of that

[static prism]

oh i see thank you

[oblique sequoia]

No problem!

[umbral fulcrum]

LF motivational speech to farm mi zenurik tau strike x.x

< I hate how slow the resource gain is>

[gleaming silo]

Is anyone here good with the whole lich/sister/crew system?

[red path]

that's like 7 runs of each perita boss per strike

[umbral fulcrum]

did they bump up the resource gains? o.O

[red path]

run each mission once per day and you get strike in a week

[umbral fulcrum]

cuz it was like 17

[gleaming silo]

20 for one run you need 150-160 of all resources

7x3

[red path]

it depend on number of orders you complete, +10 from boss

[umbral fulcrum]

ah

[red path]

+2 of random resource drop from vanguard on sp

[gleaming silo]

Almost done them all, don't forget you need more resources to actually level up the things as well : )

[umbral fulcrum]

wot

[oblique sequoia]

I love doing Perita on SP bc of all the Steel Essence I get lol

[gleaming silo]

In the focus school when upgrading, it requires the resource

[red path]

yes, sp perita is a decent steel farm

[gleaming silo]

I'd say more then decent tbh

[red path]

pretty sure there is wiki page that show all the costs you need to level up everything

[umbral fulcrum]

too much movin xD

[red path]

btw, I found it's a lot faster to run it solo, maximum: duo

[lofty garden]

There is, though the rough average is 180 of each mat per artifact and focus node upgrade

[oblique sequoia]

Ain't that that truth LMAO

[gleaming silo]

Saryn, Titania my go to

[red path]

my personal best is 12 orders solo

[void otter]

how do i get grendel

[gleaming silo]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Grendel

[lofty garden]

beacons bought with vitus essence from the abritrations vendor

Can only use warframe augment mods

[red path]

you know you can just open their market page, hover blueprint info and see

[void otter]

i did not know that infact

[fair ibex]

lol mirage is kinda fun - turning lazer gates to ur side is cool

[void otter]

That grind is torture...

[red path]

there is also a lot of weapons you can check like that

[oblique sequoia]

It never ends lol

[gleaming silo]

Grendel is fine, gauss however.. OR CITRINE amigawd

Btw, has anyone done the secret Inaros missions?

[oblique sequoia]

Yes

[gleaming silo]

They hard or easy?

[oblique sequoia]

Average

[gleaming silo]

can you solo it?

[umbral fulcrum]

worth defendin baro?

[red path]

I have them 12, and I'm too lazy to actually do them

[oblique sequoia]

Yes. Bring a synthesis scanner for the Kavats

[red path]

there is some cosmetics or decor as rewards

[gleaming silo]

Oh there are more kavats there?

[gleaming silo]

You get more fassshioon stuff

[lost geyser]

Should I run them on ivara then

[lofty garden]

I ran Gloomnaros for the Void Raider missions.

[red path]

kavats are part of inaros quest, there is none in void signal

[gleaming silo]

Ahh righto, you can also only play Inaros in that mission

[red path]

inaros prime only iirc

[lofty garden]

The hardest part of those missions is accumulating enough beacons to run it several times.

[oblique sequoia]

In the Inaros mission, you'll be swarmed by kavats. You can scan all of them. That's actually how my best friend got his first Kavat LMAO

[lofty garden]

Yeah, Inaros Prime is needed to buy the beacons.

[gleaming silo]

No the void beacon stuff, not the regular mission.

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Baro_Void-Signal

[lost geyser]

Yea but won’t u die to them when they swarm u

[oblique sequoia]

Oh I thought we were only talking about the Sands of Inaros quest

[lofty garden]

I mean, now you can just use Dante's Noctua to murder all the kavats in the Sands of Inaros missions.

[gleaming silo]

nurr

[oblique sequoia]

My bad, guys. Sorry about that 😭

[red path]

there is like 40 of them, with just 25% chance at kode drop, good at start, but once you unlock sp it is in no way as good as sp phlegyas or horend

[lost geyser]

Oh it scans them?

[lofty garden]

His exalted does

[lost geyser]

What if i don’t have him

Then ivara and slowly scan?

[gleaming silo]

yeh

remove your companion

[lofty garden]

I would just get Dante first.

Dante is an easy farm.

[red path]

better use synthesis scanner with double scan chance and some frame that can put them to sleep (I used baruuk)

[lost geyser]

Is he really

He’s from sanctum right

[oblique sequoia]

Ivara can also put them to sleep

[lofty garden]

Dante is just a low level Disruption mission

[oblique sequoia]

Yeah, the Disruption Node in there

[lost geyser]

Oh what

Random drop?

[red path]

dante is from sanctum disruption

[oblique sequoia]

^

[red path]

you have chance at bp drops and also get pity currency

[oblique sequoia]

Yee. Vessel Capillaries

I like Dante, he's a lot of fun

[warm glen]

WE DID IT

what are this?

[umbral fulcrum]

possible rewards if u gonna keep progressin

[random solstice]

will vauban rework come tomorrow ?

[lofty garden]

It's a way to tempt you to keep playing.

From what they said on devshorts, yes.

[red shadow]

can you level cap koumei without using condition overload because personally i find that build really boring

[storm laurel]

Where do I get this crosshair from?

[red shadow]

i mean yeah, but in the patchnotes they said that theyre also doing other things for him

example: making electricity procs trigger his passive or whatever

but it was way harder than expected so theyl release it after the rework so even then he'll be unfinished

[red path]

from any incarnon gun

[storm laurel]

Ok thank you

[dusk sage]

Sorry to bother, does any of the drone companions guns priorities weak point damage or they just damage the enemy in general and aren’t necessarily aiming?

For example death cubes gun or nautilus gun(verglas)

[red path]

they usually aim at enemy center

idk about diriga's gun though

[umbral fulcrum]

Fam, is it me or does Suda sound like a Mommy? * u *

Lemme lick that data cube! UwU

[dusk sage]

Noted so it would be wasteful to add primary acuity, in my build, so imma leave it as how it is

[rotund pulsar]

chat is it just me or is Stage Defense like 50x harder than all other defense missions

[red path]

it's not, just a bit more stuff around the defense target

[lofty garden]

Other than the frame rate issues, it doesn't seem more difficult to me.

[rotund pulsar]

damn maybe i just suck then

[red path]

you know 4 letters that fix all defense problems: A N O V

[rotund pulsar]

i dont get it

O is Octavia i assume?

[red path]

it's Nova

[rotund pulsar]

ah

[worthy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/just-a-guy-pointing-at-self-pointing-at-me-are-you-talking-to-me-who-me-gif-2990789486271791948

[rotund pulsar]

why is it rotated 💀

[worthy comet]

lol idk

[umbral fulcrum]

ugh sp gives 12 not 20 -_-"

[red path]

you need to do orders, it's number of orders + 10 from boss, +2 per vanguard (but it's random resource)

[umbral fulcrum]

welp, I guess thats where my "luck" comes in... often get bugged and second vanguard wont spawn

[red path]

so if I can do 12 orders with volt solo, I get at least 22 of the main resource

[umbral fulcrum]

by vang I mean prime frame

spent 5 mins waiting on timer

[red path]

at that point can just restart

[static prism]

cephalon simaris is talking about losing some warframe blueprint and kavat, how do i get them?

[red path]

do sanctuary onslaught

[static prism]

how do i do that?

nvm

[red path]

from talking to simaris, or from navigation - syndicate tab

[static prism]

i start it thanks

[red path]

it's a farm for khora warframe, and tbh I would just use diviri to get her

kalymos is good girl, venari is bad wild girl, you need to impress her to get khora parts

[fair ibex]

i got my first omni forma

[dusk sage]

so my valk is pretty strong, i already do base 500k-10mil without anything(roar) obviously roar helps, but should i add Enraged to my build to give myself even more damage? +200% strength and 200% crit chance on the downside that i only last 15 seconds in it and have to wait before reactivating? I use magistar with this build so regardless claws or hammer, they getting put into the slammer but what do you think?

[worthy comet]

Nice, put it on your most used frame

[fair ibex]

i was gonna save it for a bit i think

[worthy comet]

That works too

[strong field]

Question.
I just wanna punch enemies until they die.

What frame allows punching enemies until they die?
Or weapon+frame allows punching until dead

[dusk sage]

atlas

[worthy comet]

Atlas or baruuk

[fair ibex]

i just the omni an emphera and the Kavat upgrade thingy from one arbi

[worthy comet]

Baruuk requires a bit of setup but he's real fun

Super sturdy too

[ivory blade]

When can I pick vauban heirloom?

[red path]

in around 20 hours or so

[dusk sage]

nvm figured it out, i do 63 mil imma push it further

[copper obsidian]

question, is there a good endo farm thats easly accessible? I am running very short

[red path]

there is many ways to farm endo, depends on how far you into unlocking content

[copper obsidian]

I have access to steel path and can comfortably do lower end steel path content.

[red path]

for example, railjack mission is a decent endo farm, eris junction unlocks arbitrations, on sedna there is arenas where mobs drop a good amount of endo

[copper obsidian]

ok thank tango

[red path]

if you have hollvania, bounties there has good endo rewards, also deepmine bounties in fortuna (need NW complete)

[umbral fulcrum]

wat

[idle otter]

How can i get coolant leak? i heard taht you only need to kill these orokin drones or something? but idk what mission si the best for it tb

[umbral fulcrum]

coolant leak not that worthy tho

[red path]

you can buy one from bird every week

[idle otter]

im just tryna get it for one of the overframe mod tbh

[umbral fulcrum]

never looked at shiny treasures before x.x

[red path]

wiki say orokin drone, that means void missions or lua conjunction survival

[idle otter]

ah okay, thanks sir

[gleaming silo]

Got lucky

also have this so gonna have to roll it forever for something good

[fair ibex]

C for spy missions is just hack all 3 right? alarms dont matter

[fair ibex]

nice bonus 🙂

[rotund pulsar]

yikes temple blueprints cost so much

you need to play a lot of stage defense

[gleaming silo]

Do you get them playing Eta?

[rotund pulsar]

eta?

[gleaming silo]

Or is it Eda

[umbral fulcrum]

All I am gonna say, sorry in-game chat moderators if you're reading an eu atomica lobby chat xD

[gleaming silo]

I am stupid Tda

the temporal stuff

[rotund pulsar]

doesnt seem so, they're the one from stage defense

idk i have never played temporal archimedea

[gleaming silo]

Ahh too bad, as sometimes you do the stage defense when doing Tda What is the resource called?

[rotund pulsar]

beating heartstrings

[gleaming silo]

Yeah have no resource of it : /

I feel so done with grinding tho x') just done Perico like only 4 away from getting it all and today I did citrin and now just farming liches

[rotund pulsar]

for most frames like this you also get blueprint drops from just playing the mission (like citrine) but those are 100% i think and here i didnt get any after neither round 3 or 4 of the mission

[red path]

Yes

[gleaming silo]

Citrine is not 100%, oh boi

[rotund pulsar]

i farmed zealoid prelate for like 2 hours yesterday, yes, the deimos boss

[gleaming silo]

I heard he's hard, why'd you farm him?

[rotund pulsar]

idk i havent played that mission in a while

[rotund pulsar]

tempo royale

[gleaming silo]

you have to go to C and only then theres a small chance of getting a part

Tempo royale?

[rotund pulsar]

guess what, i got literally every other rare drop from him OTHER than tempo royale

[rotund pulsar]

stance mod for heavy blades, i dont have any stance for them

[red path]

Good heavy blade stance

[gleaming silo]

ah

[rotund pulsar]

atleast i got 70 plat in pathocyst sets though... and target acquired, thats a pretty nice mod too

[umbral fulcrum]

rare specimen found

[rotund pulsar]

what is that i dont recognize it

[umbral fulcrum]

trinutty prime

[gleaming silo]

Ohh a trinity

[red path]

Trinity is pretty fun, but even after rework all her abilities duration feels somewhat short

[umbral fulcrum]

yeah

I remember her nerf for eso farming lmao

[gleaming silo]

I saw someone, somehow, nuke with her

[umbral fulcrum]

I never hated scott more than that

[umbral fulcrum]

prolly her 3 augmented

frost also seems like a rare species

[gleaming silo]

yeah

his bubble isn't that viable

[umbral fulcrum]

yeah... back in the day was most sought frame

[gleaming silo]

Ayup

If they made his dome somehow better for like Sp/eda/eta stuff he'd probably be played, always nice with some sort of respite.

[umbral fulcrum]

frickin potato man with his nostalgia series he started doin recently . _ . I am missing void keys and raids

[umbral fulcrum]

it needs to scale up more with power str and bigger range imo

[gleaming silo]

I don't think range is an issue

[umbral fulcrum]

hmm, true cuz nulis exist

[gleaming silo]

^

[umbral fulcrum]

also did they change it to allow friendly bullets go in it?

[gleaming silo]

Hmm.. Not sure, I recall not being able to shoot into it but out of it

[umbral fulcrum]

that was the biggest frost issue imo

[leaden spade]

Trinity still has my favorite skin in the game despite everything.

[fair ibex]

on the spy missions if im going for C that means I should get 3 mods drop each time rigth? im getting all 3 hacks but i only get 2 mods and both of them are from the a + b and i only have 2 identified

[pure gulch]

can be stuff like creds or endo too

[gleaming silo]

^

[pure gulch]

especially for A

[gleaming silo]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Spy/Rewards#Tier_1

[pure gulch]

at which point it says it if you hover over the creds I believe

[fair ibex]

ahh ok im getting the relic

thx! i ws worried i was doing something wrong and just wasting time lol

[warm glen]

???? ok

[rugged shore]

all this for 3 plat

[empty scroll]

I always wondered, what does "user is ignoring you" even mean?

[warm glen]

it means they "blocked" you

so you don't waste your 'breath' trying to talk to them lol

[empty scroll]

Ahh, seems weird why they don't just say THAT instead

[gleaming silo]

yuuuup

[dusk yoke]

I mean, I probably wouldn't block someone, but I would also move on if the person didn't respond within a minute or two

[warm glen]

Lotus forbid I tab away for five minutes

[fair ibex]

its honestly like that in a lot of games that have trading type interactions

i dunno if i would bother with the extra actions of having to block someone tho lol

[oak belfry]

Is the grendel aquisition missions soloable or should i get a squad together

[rugged shore]

It is soloable but sharing is caring

[oak belfry]

its best subsume so ill ask around a bit before going, maybe ill get lucky

[lofty garden]

Just use Hildryn.

[oak belfry]

id argue shes not build but that dosent matter i guess xD

allright, go for a smoke and see if anyone wants a spare grendel;

built*

[lofty garden]

https://youtu.be/IPLDqcZ17es

[gleaming silo]

Hildryn is really strong tbh

[lofty garden]

Hildryn has an undocumented interaction with electric elemental ward.

[oak belfry]

I just did her for mastery, tell me more

[oak belfry]

?

[lofty garden]

when you cast it, you get shields back

it is in the video

[oak belfry]

thks for the tip ill check it out

[gleaming silo]

Isnt there also a thing that like the ward does dmg equal to shield or something? Had someone on my team desling a lot of smg when farming Grendel before

[lofty garden]

so an electric elemental ward blazing pillage hildryn makes grendel easy to get

[daring parrot]

arent subsumes disabled

[plush minnow]

guys who is better uriel or nokko

[daring parrot]

both are really good

[rugged shore]

Comparing oranges to apples really

[plush minnow]

i mean for a solo player who would i benefit more from

[daring parrot]

just the one you enjoy the most, they are two pretty different kits

solo players can just play any frame, it doesnt really matter

[lofty garden]

subsumes work

[daring parrot]

oh fr?

[lofty garden]

unless they changed it, they should work

[daring parrot]

ig I was thinking of invigorations

[rugged shore]

Yes they do work did my grendel relatively recently

[dusk sage]

Does galvanized mods apply to drones weapons?(like if I equip it on my companions weapon)

[rugged shore]

Yes, but

You have to equip the same mod on your own weapon and trigger the stacks with it

[dusk sage]

Oof- guess I’ll stick with regular mods lol

And one more question- possibly a dumb one, but do drones “aim” as in blades rounds increase crit damage when aiming so although we don’t know is it possible?

[rugged shore]

Iirc they cant trigger anything that requires ads

But don't take my word its just from memory, really niche subject

[dusk sage]

No worries I appreciate the help anyways just testing out builds, currently my drone does hundred thousand to millions per tick

[plush minnow]

guys what is gauss prime worth in plat

[daring parrot]

check warframe.market

[plush minnow]

ok thanks

[kind hedge]

Are any of gyres abilities worth subsuming

[coarse basin]

45? I think?

[still wyvern]

roughly that yeah

[still wyvern]

I imagine he's gonna get more expensive considering he's the most recently vaulted prime(?)

[keen fog]

nyx is poggers, just finished crafted and a half ahh build today

[still wyvern]

funny stalker dialogue on acolyte bug

[keen fog]

true true, it's been like this for a while

[still wyvern]

he's supervising his kids

[lofty garden]

Turning off all the dynamic lighting makes the 1999 tileset so much easier to navigate

[fair ibex]

whats a good wep choice for mirage ? explosive ? if i go the explosive ledgerman?

[worthy comet]

Oh you need to try glaives

Eclipse has a funny interaction with glaive explosions and applies twice resulting in some stupid damage

The rest of my mirage loadout is trumna and grimoire

[coarse basin]

explosive legerdemain is a low level nuke build

for eso

usually

[fair ibex]

so its bad? 🙁

is just mostly just weapons plat cos of her buff?

[coarse basin]

anyone know how to get fulmination

would prefer the prime but idk where to get the normal one

[lofty garden]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Firestorm

[still wyvern]

it's so bad

the drops are terrible

[lofty garden]

Primed is from Baro

[coarse basin]

edited it a bit b4 u sent that sry

[still wyvern]

fulmination is worse

[coarse basin]

meant the version for secondaries

[still wyvern]

tiny chance it'll be in the normal circuit each week

and that's it

[coarse basin]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-glorpshit-glorp-alien-cat-absolute-glorpshit-gif-18306938658275033915

[pure gulch]

base fulmination was in operation shop in plague star

[fair ibex]

got some lvling to do b4 i canuse The Trumna i have the bp for it tho

[coarse basin]

damn

[lofty garden]

It's not that difficult to obtain the regular mod

[coarse basin]

so I wait for baro?

[pure gulch]

or yeah minuscule chance for circuit, probably easier to get primed lol

[still wyvern]

fulmination, not firestorm

[coarse basin]

he brought it around like 3 months ago tho... and its so uncommon 😭

[still wyvern]

firestorm drops from three different enemies and you can rarely get it from hive sabotage caches

[lofty garden]

Potato, potato

[still wyvern]

it's really not potato potato fulmination is so much worse

[coarse basin]

PLEASE
GIVE ME YOUR EXTRA
ILL GIVE YOU FISH
idk what I could give tbh, its worth 40 plat

[lofty garden]

Oh, you’re right. Yeah, so… Plaguestar!

Or Baro for the primed version

plaguestar means… 2027

buy a tennocon ticket, or trade with someone who does buy a tennocon ticket

[leaden spade]

Or this summer

[lofty garden]

nah, we had one in 2025

they have been re-running it every two years

[coarse basin]

might just have to drop the 60 plat

[still wyvern]

they ran it twice in 2018 holy moly

[lofty garden]

those were the good times, when lephantis was respected

[lost geyser]

what does fulmination do?

[true timber]

Increase blast radius for secondary w radial attacks

[bronze otter]

how do i get the dual viciss without ranking up the hex to max

[lofty garden]

buy it in the market using plat

[bronze otter]

fahhhh

[silver breach]

the answer to "How do I get [X Thing] without having to farm for it" is almost always "buy it in the market with plat"

[junior solar]

How rare is the forma blueprint? Not getting it for some reason.

[worthy comet]

From relics? Usually common or uncommon if it's x2

[junior solar]

I was under the assumptiom it would be easy to get since it is part of the common drops.

[worthy comet]

It just be bad rng

Keep trying

[silver breach]

i guess youre just unlucky

also depends on your sample size

[worthy comet]

Are you cracking relics alone or in a group

[junior solar]

Would it be better if I just go for a solo void fissure? Playing 4-man increases drop chance of rare items right?

[junior solar]

Group

[worthy comet]

Cracking relics in a group just means you get to choose other ppls drops

[silver breach]

also increases the chance for common items.....since theres more of you rolling relics

if someone else gets forma, you can pick it

[lofty garden]

chances do not go up, but because more people are opening relics, you can acquire whatever they open instead of just what yours turns out to be

[silver breach]

think of it this way. there are 3 common items per relic (lets say one of them is a forma).

usually if youre solo, you roll once for a 1/3, but if you run with 4 people, youre rolling a 1/3 4 times

means more chances for forma

if youre running solo, youre only rolling from your own pool of items

[storm laurel]

Can I safely quit the game at this point of the new war?

[silver breach]

yeah

there are numerous check points in the new war

where youre able to just quit, and it'll save your progress

[bronze otter]

i just never buy faction exclusive weapons cuz i hate farming factions (besides cavia)

[storm laurel]

Thanks

[coarse comet]

Hi, I noticed that some augur mods are not for warframes? I currently do not use my primary weapon at all, would it be worth using a pistol to slap Augur Pact on it?

[placid turtle]

Yeah it's meant to redirect you to the login screen but on PS it's bugged

[rugged shore]

The augur pistol mods are kinda terrible (by design i suppose), so if you plan on using your secondary often it hurts

A trick you can do however is slap them on a companion with a secondary type weapon

[coarse comet]

oh, primary pistols don't exist?

[silver breach]

pistols are secondary weapons

[silver breach]

if your secondary is you main DPS option, then no Augur mods arent worth it

[rugged shore]

To be precise these mods are for all secondary class weapons

You cannot use augur mods on any other weapon class

[coarse comet]

yeah I use epitaph prime

[silver breach]

only put Augur mods on your secondary if its a support weapon

[coarse comet]

maybe for another frame! good to know

[rugged shore]

Again reiterating you can use them on a companion if you run one that fits

[coarse comet]

I'll look shortly

[wispy island]

Anyone else wonder what the damage counter is in warframe is supposed to be in? Like is it in Joules? Tons of TNT?

[lofty garden]

Pablos

[rugged shore]

Is it a thrown Pablo? A punching Pablo?

[silver breach]

if youre thinking of that, then you should also think about what the HP values represent since damage is 1 to 1 to HP

disregarding armor, if an enemy takes 1 damage, they lose 1 HP

so if the damage numbers are Joules for example, then what the hell are HP values

[true timber]

is it worth capturing horrasques for standing (i'm rank 4 so i can't have the kubrodon lure yet and i have yet to just find one in the open world) or are bolarolas okay

[still wyvern]

get them all

[silver breach]

capture all of them

[still wyvern]

you can also find kubrow just roaming in the wild without the lure

[silver breach]

idk why youd pick and choose tbh. All animals are standing

might as well get them all when you see them

[true timber]

fair enough i suppose, it's ust that the tiny ones give such little standing compared to higher tiers

[wispy island]

ummmmmm

[silver breach]

while that is true, its not like it will be a waste to still grab a bolarola while youre looking for a kubrodon

thats just free standing youre walking past

[prisma holly]

hey, is zanuka hunter bugged? ive had his mark for like 3 weeks already and he hasnt appeared yet, idk if im doing something wrong

[true timber]

yeah that makes sense. though the one annoying thing is i keep forgetting to unequip my companion lol keeps attackign random shit

[placid turtle]

It's a 2.5% chance I think

[wispy island]

joules of what ever type of damage they can take

[still wyvern]

I don't think assassins show in steel path missions either on account of the acolytes

I might be wrong! or the wiki doesn't say anything about it which is also a possibility

[true timber]

good to know biz, good to know.

[wispy island]

1 mill dmg in game w/o on armor and no resist = 1 mill Joule = Wall Level attack based on Vsbattle

makes sense to me

idk how they gauge armor and resistance for Warframe exactly

[rugged shore]

Most attacks with line of sight check dont even go through a door

So most warframe attacks are definitely not wall level

[silver breach]

max level enemies have like 2 million HP or something

so max level grineer can take 2 million Joules lmao

[wispy island]

That would still be Wall Level

Tho they would have armor and resist I imagine

idk how energy shield would be calced

and still 9-B

[still wyvern]

powerscaling warframe is messy

[rugged shore]

How do you calculate an ability that deals 100% of hp as damage?

[wispy island]

Ya I am mostly doing a In-Game but lore is different always like every game does

[still wyvern]

if you want to talk about walls, one of Atlas' abilities is to summon a rock wall

[oak belfry]

I know it was a while ago but the elemental ward and blazing pillage method of getting through grenddel has been patched fsure

[rugged shore]

Hildryn can get through them with just aegis gale and pillage anyways

[oak belfry]

yeah im not buying another augment ill just get a squad together

maybe if i used her but i dpnt like exalted wpn frames

just feels like an extra limb every time

[rugged shore]

Aegis gale is the best one by far and what you would use on a real hildryn build

[oak belfry]

I dont use frames with exalted weapons, not wukong not mesa, not because theyre not good but because someone else made the build\

my three wpn slots are kinda irrelevant and i dont like that tatha all

[rugged shore]

Plenty of frames are focused on being casters even without using any exalted tbf

[pallid talon]

dante has an exalted but like it's mid

subsume it for roar so you can triple dip with dark verse and finale

[oak belfry]

i use a grimoire and subbed it out

yeah

wanted the flavor intact tho

[pallid talon]

de a bunch of cowards and made it so that nourish didn't add viral to dark verse

[lofty garden]

electric elemental ward blazing pillage Hildryn works fine in Grendel missions

helminth invigorations are disabled, not ability replacement

[oak belfry]

i just ran it and i did not get anything like the results in video

[pallid talon]

hildryn steamrolling all content except zero shields nightmare lol

[oak belfry]

i dont have the nekros elemental ward and it was said its optional and it definitely is not

i got surrounded shield gating in survival spamming 2

chroma*

[lofty garden]

I’m running the defense mission right now and I get shield back when casting elemental ward and everything is lit on fire with blazing pillage

electric procs just fine as well

[oak belfry]

it doesnt work without ele ward at all

the vid persenting it said it would, chroma is a long build man

i sold it before helminth released

[lofty garden]

If anything, it is easier now since pillage can be cast while in aegis storm now

[worthy comet]

ngl i think dante has enough going for him

[misty cosmos]

Just got Metem-Erun and FINALLY My drifter can sprint worth a damn

[coarse comet]

does the wellspring from Zenurik school work on myself too?

[idle fossil]

yep

[coarse comet]

sweet, can it be triggered by warframe first ability or only operator?

[rapid hull]

How dose one obtain a gold oracin cell

[rugged shore]

You manually use it as the operator

Note that this will not work if you use a channeled ability

[coarse comet]

mannn okay, good to know

[rugged shore]

Same for any other regen/s stuff like energy siphon or energy nexus

[still wyvern]

it's a rare resource on saturn, ceres and deimos

[lofty garden]

more of a champaign color

[still wyvern]

51 catalysts holy

[rapid hull]

Thanks

[lofty garden]

early on, helene, saturn is a good place to farm cells.

[slate iron]

so I wasn't willing to date her atm, just test the waters so I didn't choose the option that say [ask to date] but just one or two text later I choose an ambiguous option with no [] that immediately made me ask her for a date, ok DE

[still wyvern]

sick glyph holy

[slate iron]

now we dating but if I am certain that if I tell her that we should break up I wouldnt be able to ask her for a date, it would be ruined for me and in any case, I would have to forget her, lyon and roathe, all that because that option did not say that it also meant to "[ask to date]"

they should look into that...

I repeat, I did not want to ask her but to have the option to, not a proposal through kimchat!

[timid timber]

I know I'm like 5 years late but I just came back to the game after a few years off, remembered how much I enjoyed the Corinth, decided to buy the Corinth Prime off market and found out it f-cking sucks (feels wise), and from a quick google search a lot of people think the same

The chances of like a special mod for it or a rework or ANYTHING to make it feel like the regular variant are like 0.5% no?

[light sequoia]

If Banshee's abilities create new weak points, do those weak points benefit from things like Evade and Acuity mods?

[slate iron]

dmg has changed a lot past this 5 years so I can see why u had corinth as a fave but nowadays it wont do much

[late vessel]

No

[slate iron]

do I just cope and go forth even after that?

[lofty garden]

they are just pixels…

[fair ibex]

what happned to my character lol

[tiny frigate]

no one will believe me this happened in one farm of Lex for cells (ive not really build for maxing it)
Stalker showed up gave weapon i wanted. 3 cells. 1 sculpture 1 star.

[light sequoia]

Mkay so no Evade

[chilly jungle]

is this from grinding nightwave or what 😭

[lofty garden]

No, just playing the game

[still wyvern]

51 catalysts would require over 2.5 million nightwave standing

[chilly jungle]

how do you not use those alot ✌️💔

[lofty garden]

once you have weapons you like, you don’t really need to use them often

[still wyvern]

my problem is I can't tell if I like a weapon until I've used one

I have a list of my catalyst-less weapons backlog

[coarse basin]

I’ll put a catalyst on anything that’s capable of handling eta well

that’s abt the power level i’d look for

[tall pebble]

now what

[lofty garden]

you get a catalyst from every formorian and razorback armada

do you have personal quarters?

did you complete chains of harrow?

[tall pebble]

BY THE VOID

[tall pebble]

yeah i just did

[lofty garden]

also, if you have played every nightwave, a sizeable chunk of the intermissions are just 50 credits because you already have all the cosmetics

[river ermine]

Is grendal and grendal prime mastery broken? I feel like this is the third time ive seen my grendal prime mastery just reset completely...

[still wyvern]

nightwave is the most consistent source of catalysts for sure but man when you're past rank 30 and you're getting 15 credits per rank, it's essentially 50000 standing for a catalyst

which is mostly fair but not enough to keep up with my demands

[still wyvern]

you're not using forma on him perchance?

[worthy comet]

grendel so hungry he ate a forma by mistake

[river ermine]

No, i max rank him them two days later hes unranked and not counted for mastery anymore...

[light sequoia]

How do I make banshee good?

I genuinely like my fashion of her and I wanna make it worth it

[lofty garden]

mastery is shown in your profile. are you saying he is oscillating between mastered and unmastered in your profile?

[still wyvern]

banshee is one of the most outdated warframes right now ngl, she kinda needs help from subsumed abilities for harder content

[light sequoia]

Aw man. What subsume should I try to go for? Nourish? Xata Whisper?

[river ermine]

It might just be me thinking im ranking one instead of the other... but i do feel like ive seen my grendal prime do a complete reset... on my profile the normal grendal is mastered but nor the prime and i swear ive maxed out both for mastery

[still wyvern]

her damage output is pretty fine I think due to sonar, I know some people use evade for the invisibility

I have never used banshee though so I'm unreliable

[worthy comet]

do sonar weakpoints extend evade duration?

[lofty garden]

send in a ticket and send screenshots of mastered and then unmastered

[still wyvern]

unfortunately not, it's a bit of an anti-synergy but I think it's the most viable way to keep banshee alive in late game

[river ermine]

Thats what i was thinking... ill max rank the prime agin and screen shot it and if it unranks by tomorrow ill submit the ticket

[worthy comet]

booooo

[still wyvern]

hopefully she is on the list to be touched up this year

[worthy comet]

hopefully

[lofty garden]

also check your total mastery on your profile, see if it is decreasing

[still wyvern]

the weak point synergy would be awesome, but her other abilities need some help too I believe

[lofty garden]

Now I am checking my profile…

Still 8962. Whew

[still wyvern]

what a flex

[lofty garden]

grendel and his prime are still mastered

[river ermine]

Im only rank 16 so im not entirely worried if its just one buggy warframe mastery... but i just thought i should look into it because i know it was a bug back then and was wonfering if the bug came back or im just crazy... probably the later

[lofty garden]

Could be a bug returning. I do not recall the bug, but it could have been during a lul

[placid turtle]

She is statistically the least used Warframe of 2025, so no doubt they'll be taking a look at her as to why, and how they can fix that

[river ermine]

Maybe... it would be easier to check mastery buggs if we could check individual waftame and weapon states incase such things happen ever again... like oh hydroid ran x amount of missions but has no mastery and a forma hasn't been used

That would be considered a clear indication og a bug

[still wyvern]

I did not know it was that bad wow

maybe she'll be the next hierloom for it too

[pearl parcel]

evening ark

[lofty garden]

you can check warframe stats in your profile

[pearl parcel]

evening ice

[river ermine]

.... i need to really take a day and go thru my warframe to see all the neat things i can do that i didn't know about....

Grendel prime is greyed out even tho i own him... intresting

[lofty garden]

can also sort by used

[mellow adder]

idk what to do rn.

i built dante last time I played. and im really dissapointed.
sure, he's good for supporting allies, but even fighting lvl 100 enemies dante's over guard just vanishes instantly.

still happy with my gauss for the most part, but last time i played him i was getting constantly bullied by toxic eximus, his only weakness.

I have both Protea and Limbo prime now, i think. they should be done crafting.
but idk if i wanna level and build yet another frame.

i still don't have the helminth segment, but i get bored of grinding standing halfway through one bounty.

[idle fossil]

good news, helminth is not required, though shards help. unfortunately while the game does let you game at your own pace theres a couple points where you just have to grind out the boredom

[worthy comet]

are you recasting the double light verse to increase overguard cap?

my dante is barely built and can survive lvl 400

[mellow adder]

yes, im using double light then final verse.

[worthy comet]

how often are you doing that

the more times you do it the more overguard you get

[lofty garden]

light, light, 4, light, light 4.

[mellow adder]

im aware. i typically do it till I'm very close to or at max over guard

[lofty garden]

So 2, 2, 4, then 2, 2, 4, then 2, 2, 4, then 2, 2, 4

[worthy comet]

so you're still struggling with 45k overguard? at lvl 100?

[keen lintel]

when is the update?

[worthy comet]

something's not right

[lofty garden]

The one that adds more things? "March".

[keen lintel]

ye. and devstream date?

[lofty garden]

I don't think they mentioned one in the devshorts

[placid turtle]

Hey, long time no see

[placid turtle]

27th/28th Feb

[lofty garden]

I doubt that

[placid turtle]

#devstream-196 message

[lofty garden]

The 28th is a saturday, so that's not happening.

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[placid turtle]

I said 28th as it's depending on your timezone

It's 28th for me

[keen lintel]

posted on official channel and still doubting

[placid turtle]

They also announced the next one in March, live at PaxEast

#warframe-news-feed message

[keen lintel]

people when they find out that there is a world outside their country

[lofty garden]

It's a single date/time. It won't show two, since it's using the formatting that shows it in your system's current timezone.

[still wyvern]

now I haven't played dante so idk what his status with subsume slots is but koumei's ability omamori effectively doubles the lifespan of your overguard

[worthy comet]

they don't have helminth

[placid turtle]

Yeah I said 27th/28th because for some it'll be the 27th, for others it'll be the 28th

[mellow adder]

with others it doesn't matter cause I just give it to them and then i sit out of the fight.

solo, or with only like one other, it vanishes in a couple hits it seems

[worthy comet]

...surely you're not completely afk in groups

[mellow adder]

no, i just hang back and blast things with the Noctua.

make sure I keep both buffs and over guard up on my allies

i never get hit by more than one or two enemies. and they get one hit and then get deleted.

[worthy comet]

well then in that case it sounds like in solo play you just gotta move around more

[mellow adder]

with what mobility

[pallid talon]

warframes are quite mobile even without movement options

[silver breach]

base movement

[worthy comet]

bullet jump?

sprint?

[chilly jungle]

praedos

[silver breach]

sprint, roll, bulletjump, air glide

[mellow adder]

stupid question

[pallid talon]

triumph gives overguard back on kill

[chilly jungle]

im pretty sure its the only ability that can overguard gate or whatevre

[pallid talon]

i think fire blast with healing flame can overgate too

[chilly jungle]

ok

btw does it say with ember because its a subsume 😭 ?

[pallid talon]

yes

also don't subsume fire blast just for the augment

[chilly jungle]

obviously 💔

[pallid talon]

if healing flame gave overguard on subsume that'd be crazy lol

[chilly jungle]

it would just make every other option of survival useless

[still wyvern]

A la arcane circumvent

[chilly jungle]

you cant gain overguard from every enemy

bro healing flame is just fortifier but if every hit = overguard gain

[still wyvern]

You don't need to

Idk if you've actually used healing flame but they amount of overguard you get is pretty abysmal

[chilly jungle]

doesn't it scale with strength

and it caps at 10k

unless wiki is wrong

[still wyvern]

10k overguard is not that much

[chilly jungle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1350790909230321739/1457495220286394368/attachment.gif

[still wyvern]

And just because it scales with strength doesn't necessarily mean it scales well

[chilly jungle]

10k overguard is enough to survive

[still wyvern]

I mean, kinda? It depends

[chilly jungle]

depends if you are moving and killing 💔

[azure willow]

Yes but what if it can get even higher?
Can we get much higher?

[still wyvern]

Depends if enemies are doing meaningful damage or not

10k overguard isn't much because probably every other source of overguard in the game caps higher

Secondary fortifier and arcane circumvent cap at 15k

And you can max out arcane circumvent much quicker than healing flame

[strong field]

Question: is there a hammer that is fast, 2 handed and still hits so strong?

Are there any hammers like that? Not just for slamming but used for SP

Fast
Strong
And powerful

[still wyvern]

Wolf Sledge, Kuva Shildeg, Arca Titron, Magistar incarnon, Sampotes

Maybe the jat kittag too

Fast is hard to come by for hammers because their stance animations are naturally slow

[strong field]

Hmmmmm

[still wyvern]

And most of them are better used for slamming than anything else

[strong field]

Damn

[worthy comet]

They'd probably be fast wielded by valkyr

Warcry go crazy

[still wyvern]

You can still achieve good attack speed with them, just not as much as other melees

[strong field]

Yeah I guess I ignore it

I'm not into slamming sooo yeah probably not for me

[chilly jungle]

no 😭 ??

circumvent is 10k

[fair ibex]

is index best credit farm b4 get r5 fortuna? and does credit blessing affect it?

[strong field]

In a sense.... I would say yes

[idle fossil]

yes and yes

though 1999 can compete

[strong field]

Before Proft taker, that's the way to go

[fair ibex]

aight fanx guys, lvlin up galvanised mods is bankrupting me lol

[chilly jungle]

if you got 1999 unlock thats basically the same as r5 fortuna

[fair ibex]

i have 1999 unlocked but what is the credit farm there?

[idle fossil]

exterminate supply caches

[chilly jungle]

opening biocache it gives like 100k- 1mil based on what boosters you have

[fair ibex]

wth

is that just in normal bounties?

[idle fossil]

yep

[still wyvern]

Mb

[fair ibex]

when u have to unlock the thingy with the charges that one?

[still wyvern]

Still better than healing flames

[chilly jungle]

yeah

[idle fossil]

yea those

[fair ibex]

oh wow i always make sure i get them, never noticed the credit influx

[chilly jungle]

@fair ibex all you need is credit booster, chroma and a pet that can run the retriever mod for 2x credit

[still wyvern]

You gotta find the code for the safe, not the charges for the cache

Different side missions

[fair ibex]

ahh ok i havent seen that somehow lol

[strong field]

I still have yet to Try Panzer before I sell him into plat

[chilly jungle]

its mostly capture missions

[fair ibex]

with the dawg

[chilly jungle]

wym

[fair ibex]

the capture missions u have the cat/dog thing u follow

i forget its name

[still wyvern]

The safe is also in the survival missions

[idle fossil]

oh, i was wrong, im so sorry

[still wyvern]

Exterminate caches still give an arcane and a syndicate token I believe

Still worthwhile

Not a fan of when they spawn 600m ahead in a mission though

[chilly jungle]

yeah

[idle fossil]

i thought it was working that way, seems when im working 1999 i just passively have a huge influx of cash

[oblique sequoia]

People running Thermal Sunder on frames (mainly Titania and Gauss) are so funny in Sorties sometimes when radiation hazards are active bc the whole squad just gets insta deleted the moment they receive one proc 😭 😭

[idle fossil]

i had someones nautilus clone come and laser beam my face, i just laughed and died i was just so stunned

[strong field]

Who can use Mecha Shits?

[chilly jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-ksi-laughing-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-6096976004461568132

when you say running do you mean using or what 💔

[oblique sequoia]

Sorry, that's adopted from Pokémon terminology. Yes I meant using

[strong field]

What beasts can equip Mecha?

[glossy violet]

id think that running is a common enough terminology for using smth

[glossy violet]

posting a picture of me in a hospital bed and captioning it "teammate ran nuke builds in rad hazard sortie"

[chilly jungle]

when i hear running in warframe i usually think of 1 someone using a weapon or 2 them using a subsume on a frame 💔

[oblique sequoia]

BRO LMAO

I would have choked on my own spit laughing at that

[glossy violet]

im glad companions dont damage you in rad hazards though i dont want 900 viral procs 💔 i saw my dog prime someone with 6 procs i'm scared

[idle fossil]

he totally damaged me, unless it was perfect timing coincidence

[glossy violet]

NAUTILUS BLAST

[oblique sequoia]

Idk how common this knowledge is, but Energy Drain Mode in Nightmares actually activate Duplex Bond

I thought it was funny

[silver breach]

Kubrows and Predesites only

[strong field]

No meow meows???????? BRUHHHHHH

[silver breach]

Kavats and Vulpaphyla's use the "Tek Set"

[strong field]

Oh!

[silver breach]

Kubrows and Predesites use the "Mecha Set"

[strong field]

What tek set is good for Panzer... Smth will make Panzer violent as SHIT

[oblique sequoia]

I mean... Exclusive sets are the spice of build crafting

[silver breach]

violent? none of them

[still wyvern]

Tek set is not as good as mecha afaik

[strong field]

.........

[still wyvern]

Panzer is already the best viral primer companion

[fair ibex]

are Kavats worth investing in?

[still wyvern]

Doesn't need any set bonuses

[silver breach]

they want the panzer to do damage

[fair ibex]

i just unlocked them todasy

[strong field]

I want him to be violeeeeeent

[silver breach]

very much so

[strong field]

I want him to move around, swoovin around, prime, attack, be hyper and VERY active!!!!

THAT'S the Panzer I wannnnnnt

[fair ibex]

i love my panzer the fact u dont have to rez them is dope

[amber trench]

Apperently Melee Animosity is multiplicative when you are not host
Tune in next week

[silver breach]

use Volt. Volt can give Shock trooper buff, Speed Buff, and another buff if you choose to subsume something else

[still wyvern]

A lot of that can depend on the mod config for the claws too

[strong field]

I use a Vauban a lot... So in short there is no way then?....

[still wyvern]

Good damage mods, posture mod, etc

[fair ibex]

claw mods are kinda rare 😭

[still wyvern]

Yes

It sucks

I have farmed bite and the claw 60/60 mods

[silver breach]

well its gonna be less so compared to volt, but you can probably still make it work with proper modding

[fair ibex]

i need to guild mine really and stop putting it off , iI really like it

[silver breach]

theyre not, theyre all sold via the conservation NPCs

[strong field]

....... No other way?....

[fair ibex]

the claw ones? i just thgrough it was the beast mods themselves that are sold by those guys

[silver breach]

what do you specifically want? speedy, fast, aggressive? just that? no damage?

if you want speedy fast aggressive pets, then yes Volt is the best way

[strong field]

Oh with damage ofc

All of the abovr

Aggressive, fast, hyper and deals a lot of damage

[silver breach]

but there are ofc ways to buff up companions outside volt. Maybe just not "speedy aggressive or fast" as Volt

[still wyvern]

Big statuses on the claws + contagious bond is a good place to start

[strong field]

Like this is how I envision my Panzer

Start of the game he charges, damages the enemy, then he moves to charge an another enemy, then he prime... Then jump to an another enemy... And so on and so forth

[silver breach]

sadly Kavats and Vulpaphylas are much less damage dealers compared to Kubrows and Predesites, thanks to Mecha set

[still wyvern]

Frenzied posture is what you need

[strong field]

But he sometimes sit there cutely and look at the enemy and prime then move

That.... Yeah

[still wyvern]

Companion AI isn't the best

[strong field]

Oh?

[silver breach]

imo I really dont like frenzied posture, in my experience theyre not gonna kill as efficiently if they keep jumping from different enemies

[strong field]

Yeah... That's the first reason I want sell my Panzer is that

[silver breach]

Persistent Posture or Assassin Posture are much better. Especially if you have contagious bond

that will allow them to kill really reliably

[still wyvern]

It's what he asked for 🤷

[strong field]

But aggressive?

[glossy violet]

do you happen to know if they're better for priming than hounds? on my hound i have duplex bond, magnetic shield (or temu nyx 4) audit, magnetic pulse ability, contagious bond, synth deconstruct and the such. feels like its still a bit lacking for energy gen

[silver breach]

aggressive to 1 enemy at a time

better for contagious bond

[strong field]

.... Hmmmm

[silver breach]

and allows them to actually kill

[still wyvern]

I think hounds are the best all round status primers, panzers are better for viral specifically

[strong field]

Then I need a claw build.... Fck

[silver breach]

them hitting each enemy only once isnt efficient

[strong field]

Alright

I'll give Panzer an ANOTHER chance with this shiz

[silver breach]

just note that Kavats and Vulpaphylas deal much less damage compared to Kubrows and Predesites

do you have any particular reason why youre specifically using Panzer for this? @strong field

[glossy violet]

hm. is there any specific ability that makes them the best at all-round status priming or is it just an inherent thing

[silver breach]

Kubrows and Predesites get waaaay more stats from Statstick Primary weapons compared to Kavats and Vulps

[still wyvern]

Manifold bond + synergized prospectus

And statuses on the weapon ofc

[glossy violet]

ohhh i need synergized prospectus, then

thanks! i have like one shattering impact on its batoten lmao my hounds were abandoned at birth

[still wyvern]

I only just started really using mine recently too

[strong field]

Because they all say it might be a waste.... So I'm trying to give Panzer one last chance

My Beasts are so underwhelminh

Reason I changed to Sentinels bc at least they do more.
@silver breach

[silver breach]

waste of what?

sample Kubrow build

[strong field]

Waste of Panzer

[silver breach]

legit these puppies do like 1-2 million damage per hit (not counting Mecha or contagious bond proc)

[silver breach]

that just depends on the build/setup brother

you can have multiple builds going

[strong field]

Yes yes I know that... It's just I've used Panzer so long and they are just underwhelming

I never seen them that really excite to use aside priming

[silver breach]

then why not just use Kubrows or Predesites for your "DPS companion" dreams?

why force a Panzer to do it?

[strong field]

..... Then which is more viable tho... I have a Sunika I guess?

[silver breach]

like ive said like 3 times already, Kubros and Predesites deal way more damage compared to Kavats and Vulps

thanks to Mecha set

Mecha Overdrive and Hunter synergy allows Kubrows and Predesites to inherint some of the stats of your Primary weapon

[silver breach]

sunika is amazing, they destroy Eximus enemies

[strong field]

Fccccckkkkkkkk yeah sure... I'll go Sunika... I'm selling Panzer

After I guild Panzer th9

[silver breach]

these two mods combined allows Sunika to demolish anything with Overguard

woah woah woah slow down there friend. Sell?

[strong field]

Into plat

I need to guild it first

[silver breach]

whatever makes you happy i guess lmao

[strong field]

There are too underwhelming.... Tbh

[silver breach]

theyre not supposed to deal damage, theyre for priming

[strong field]

Yeah learned it now and the hard way too

I'll invest on Sunika more

What Mecha Mods I need tho

[glossy violet]

assassin posture is WACK I need to visit beast vendors more

[silver breach]

all of them, but the most important is Mecha Overdrive, but all of them

if you want to invest in a Kubrow/Predesite, youre gonna need a Statstick

[unreal ruin]

HOLY 30k shields

[silver breach]

Paris Prime Incarnon is easily the best companion statstick

no need to belittle someone elses experience

[chilly jungle]

doesn't mean its better tho

[strong field]

I have Mecha Pulse....

[silver breach]

thats good

[strong field]

Aight sorry sorry

[silver breach]

now get the rest, especially Mecha Overdrive

[strong field]

I'm just too stressed and very disappointed with panzer

Fck sorry about that

I need to take a break

[oblique sequoia]

If you must, sell your Panzer to Son for tokens

[strong field]

Nah I'm selling it towards platinum

[oblique sequoia]

OH

[strong field]

Yeah I just have to guild it first

[oblique sequoia]

Hahaha don't mind me then XD

[strong field]

Yeah

[strong field]

Is there a specific Mecha I need to get aside Mecha Overdrive?

[silver breach]

just mecha overdrive, but get them all at the end of the day

[oblique sequoia]

I really like the Panzer bc I put Condition Overload on a lot of my weapons lol

[silver breach]

Mecha Overdrive and Hunter Syndergy allow the Kubrow/Predesite to inherint some of your Primary weapon stats

[strong field]

How much is Mecha Overdrive?

[silver breach]

wouldnt it be better to have a Hound/Diriga for that? Panzer only primes Viral for Condition Overload

[oblique sequoia]

I have shocking claws on it for Archon Stretch

[still wyvern]

You can get it from fortuna bounties

[oblique sequoia]

So it primes viral and elec

[strong field]

Wait Zictive, 5% primary crit chance goes to Panzer

My acceltra have 106%

How much does Sunika would have?

[strong field]

.... Hmmm

[silver breach]

wdym 5%?

[strong field]

Hunter Synergy

[still wyvern]

Goes up to 30%

[silver breach]

hunter synergy says 30%

[strong field]

Oh it's Un ranked

[silver breach]

tip, youre gonna want a dedicated Primary weapon as a statstick

[strong field]

OK so 30%

My acceltra is 106% crit chance

How much does it add to Sunika?