gameplay-discussion

[fair ibex]

i only really did as much of earth venus and mars tbh then i started just unlocking junctions and going back to do nodes when i hit a wall

[limber sorrel]

Yep! You just get weapons and frames to level 30. Don't sell the Furis though

Because with two Furis, you can craft the Afuris, so you'll have another weapon you can master

(If you have two of the same weapon, but one is already mastered, the other won't grant you any mastery progression. That's why you should check if a weapon you're wanting to get hasn't already been mastered by you. Big icon saying that ^^)

[wintry rampart]

i have two furis, one has 60 energy one has 30

this one has 30

this one 60

[limber sorrel]

Yeah, so see this little icon?

This means an Orokin Catalyst has been slotted into the weapon

[wintry rampart]

yes

[limber sorrel]

Don't put Orokin Catalysts on any weapon though

They're not the most common nor the cheapest thing. Same goes for Orokin Reactors and Warframes

[wintry rampart]

i did not put anyrthing they had it

[limber sorrel]

Gotcha

[strong field]

while me I put Orokin Reactors on most frames and not use or subsume them in the end

[limber sorrel]

D: dear god

[strong field]

Yeah tbh I did that a lot, even deleted base frames when I hate or don't like using them

[coarse basin]

when you craft the afuris, do not use this one

[fair ibex]

im so close to being able to get helmith sorted just need that last bit of mr

[limber sorrel]

Valid. I want to do the same, but Helminth's gonna be there for that (sooooon)

[coarse basin]

waste of 20 plat, essentially

[limber sorrel]

oh god yes. well-pointed out

[limber sorrel]

same! i literally get it today 🤝

[strong field]

The frames I deleted while having the Orokin Reactors are

Valkyr, Vauban, Volt, Nekros, Rhino, and... Dante I believe?

Wait I subsume dante

[coarse basin]

not primes... right?

[fair ibex]

nice 🙂 i got the item already , i just need to hit mr 8 i think and i can install it ?

[strong field]

Nope, but there is one prime I wanted to delete bc I hated it so much.... And that's XAKU prime

[limber sorrel]

Hell yeah

[eager warren]

Yo what if there was a funny augment for gauss that let's us hold down his mach rush, reving himself up and he kicks his feet and gets a speed boost for a few seconds and causing armor strip for anyone he flew past

[coarse basin]

and you have their subsumes already?

[fair ibex]

the dream, i wanna replace my novas gate 😄

[strong field]

Only Nekros, I don't like their subsume either

[limber sorrel]

What're you thinking of replacing it with?

[coarse basin]

but gauss has two-button armor strip?

[coarse basin]

...so you wasted shock and roar

two incredible subsumes.

[strong field]

Oh I got Roar again when I heard you can subsume him

[limber sorrel]

Also, I wanna ask: what frames are support frames? So far, I'm aware of Wisp and Trinity, but idk about others. Trinity is the only support frame I have at the minute, but she doesn't feel too useful because nobody really ever struggles on health or energy haha

[coarse basin]

volt

[limber sorrel]

Volt?!

[coarse basin]

volt

[strong field]

But shock is nah... Well... Maybe I might do Shock because he has the Aug... Maybe it'll be good for Vaubs

[eager warren]

I lowk forgot that 😭

[strong field]

Yee

[waxen pebble]

on the KIM, if i got best friend status does that mean im close to being able to romance? 😭

[coarse basin]

1 provides gun/melee buffing (force procs elec, great for influence), 2 provides speed buffing, 3 augment can give shields to team or no augment to protect objectives @limber sorrel

[strong field]

I don't like Shock tho tbh....

[pallid talon]

there's nova, on europa

[coarse basin]

shock trooper. nobody gaf abt augmentless shock

[strong field]

For some reason, Nokko was one of the support frames I heard before

[strong field]

True, that's very true

[coarse basin]

+250% elec is incredible for most weapons

[limber sorrel]

Ty! Very interesting :D

@pallid talon Nova counts as a support frame? Interesting. I take it Banshee and Citrine do as well then. Jade, now that I think about it, is a support frame!

[strong field]

It'll be good for Vaubs, his 2 will be a good with electric fr fr

[limber sorrel]

Who else provides buffs?

[strong field]

Rhino

[limber sorrel]

Only supportive thing Nokko has is Brightcap haha

[coarse basin]

and again, forced elec turns anything into an influence weapon, because... well influence is insane

[strong field]

Octavia

[strong field]

Yeah hahaha

[jovial solstice]

Her 4 can spawn energy or health orbs depending on which version of it you use.

Hold/Speed = increased energy orbs
Tap/Slow = increased health orbs

[coarse basin]

emotional support with 3

[limber sorrel]

Eh, idk if I think of Rhino and Octavia as support frames, but fair!

[strong field]

Nova?

[fair ibex]

I love my nova - but her gate is going as soon as i unlock helminth

[jovial solstice]

Yep.

[coarse basin]

uriel passively supports

[strong field]

I didn't know that

Been using Nova for a long time

[fair ibex]

yeah speed up gives chance to drop blue obrs

[jovial solstice]

DE did a "rework" which was really just an upgrade.

[limber sorrel]

Oh awesome!

[pallid talon]

build a max range support valkyr

[fair ibex]

slow down can spawn hp orbs

but i only really use speed up 😄

[jovial solstice]

Same, lol

[strong field]

Uriel will be a food for my Goetia... He is boring, sorry guys

[jovial solstice]

Speed is more fun.

[fair ibex]

yes

[coarse basin]

kidnapping enemies from alpha centauri just to tickle them

[limber sorrel]

Idk about health and energy support because like, again, I don't feel like anyone struggles with those. Meanwhile, I've gotten in parties where I've gotten insane attack speed buffs, or parties where my shields and health have gotten way higher, etc.

[fair ibex]

speed and star augments go brrr

ive used her gate like once lol

[limber sorrel]

I can't wait to get Uriel and Valkyr someday :D

[jovial solstice]

I use it to break out of maps 😄

[strong field]

A real gamer indeed hahshsh

[fair ibex]

😄 im gonna replace it with something soon

but i dunno wot tbh

[strong field]

Nourish

[coarse basin]

valkyr's only on resurgence for 2 more weeks

[fair ibex]

yeah but Grendal is a pita to farm

[coarse basin]

lock in

[strong field]

Put nourish on Nova as Her 1 is considered a weapon

[limber sorrel]

Ty Melpomene but I'll pass haha

[fair ibex]

yeah i know its the best one

[jovial solstice]

Her default 1 can also be a weapon.
Enemies just explode after tossing the augment on.

[fair ibex]

but i have a lot of other things to do , i read that grendal farm is a bit of an ightmare

[coarse basin]

so... you can wait. and intend to.

[jovial solstice]

In general, Nova is simply op clem

[strong field]

That's true... I just use Revenant and Torid on it..... :/

[limber sorrel]

xD

[coarse basin]

if you couldn't wait, you would actually try

[strong field]

Oh yes she is

[limber sorrel]

I did say someday!

[coarse basin]

in warframe, when you want something

you grind for it

[strong field]

Pair it with nourish and it'll be goated hahahahah

[limber sorrel]

Recipe for burnout. I gotta take my time. I get you though

[fair ibex]

yeah i have nutron star and moleculr fission augments, i just run around at warp speed exploding thigns, and then if i really need to ill anti matter drop something

[coarse basin]

burnout for me is not having something to get

[jovial solstice]

Yep, I actually tossed out Antimatter drop for Nourish.
It was just too slow of an ability.

[strong field]

I like antimatter to be honest

[fair ibex]

i dont use it that often tbh, but i really like it for a big fk off boom when i need one

my hek can 2 shot the orb to max so its nice

[jovial solstice]

There was some fun you could do with it on the Exploiter Orb back in the orb's v1 fight.

Could kill all the leg-vents right at the start with it, lol

[rugged shore]

Antimatter now seems to have a damage cap which sucks?

Antimatter was kinda broken back in the day so makes me sad

[fair ibex]

and u can send it in fast anyways once u powered it up

yeah it has a max

[rugged shore]

Antimatter + tigris was so fun

[strong field]

Yeah the damage cap sucks... I can only reach 200k from it (if I read the numbers right)

[fair ibex]

i got 3 hours untill Koumei is finished 🙂 excited

nah fam i get 300-400 on it regulary

[strong field]

Nice

[fair ibex]

it does an actual shed ton of dmg

[strong field]

Koumei is a primer... Just saying hahahahah

A primer tank

[fair ibex]

nah i mean anitmatter dorp 🙂

[strong field]

Oh yeah yeah XDDDD

Sorry

[fair ibex]

300-400k is what i get on that on a full charge

[strong field]

Damn nice ones, I only get 200k max hahahaha

[fair ibex]

but i dont use it that often tbh , cos stars and and running fast is to important

i only got 154% str,

i dunno if that is little or lot

[strong field]

Yee

[strong field]

It's enough

[fair ibex]

I played Koumei in the circuit the other day and reaaaaaaaly enjoyed her

[strong field]

I like her gun tho, the Higasa

[fair ibex]

i doubt shell be as fast as my nova tho ever i just liked the diffeent playstyle

[strong field]

I want to get it one day

[fair ibex]

it took me like 2-3 hours to farm the whole lot

[coarse basin]

I think her spear is really good

[fair ibex]

both her weapons and her set

[coarse basin]

havent used it but I'm pretty sure it is

[strong field]

I got Koumei under 30 mins... In normal chart

I mean the fate pearls

[coarse basin]

this might be why lol

[limber sorrel]

How? I can only get 10 or so a mission!

[strong field]

Hahahah I just finish the mission faster maybe

[fair ibex]

go public

i did the first part of the farm solo and then was like wtf am i doing

[strong field]

I use Vauban remember

[limber sorrel]

Do you get more pearls the faster you go?

[fair ibex]

nah u just do more

[strong field]

I'm a CC spammer

[strong field]

Nope, you can just do more and more

[limber sorrel]

🤔

[fair ibex]

yeah cos u dont need to do one hand in aat a time

its like a LOT faster

[coarse basin]

actually, amanata itself can get some great rolls, cuz it has final cc, sc, sd

[limber sorrel]

the mission always ends after the boss. idk what y'all are talking about. im gonna look up a guide xD

[fair ibex]

yeah im gonna use it with her

[strong field]

I mma get the Higasa fr fr

[limber sorrel]

ty though!

[fair ibex]

i dunno wot gun to use tho, i read her higasa isnt actually that good for her

[strong field]

Yeah, most of us can kill the boss either 2 shots or one shots

[limber sorrel]

i can too!

[fair ibex]

yeah but then u just q uyp

[pallid talon]

you run mult gunco on koumei

[limber sorrel]

bet bet bet

[strong field]

Like the fastest I've been is 1 minute

[fair ibex]

wot is that

[limber sorrel]

nice

[fair ibex]

yeah and sometimes u join as they just killing boss

[strong field]

Condition overload for guns

[strong field]

Yup

[lost pine]

What if… there were special attacks that required two warframes to for example hold hands to unleash the attack? I’m read hxeroes again.

[coarse basin]

noob poison

[strong field]

Hahahaha maybe someday

[pallid talon]

multiplicative gun condition overload, where condition overload style mods stack multiplicatively with base damage instead of additively

[strong field]

Hmmm like Galv Chambers?

[pallid talon]

yuh

[coarse basin]

https://tenor.com/view/super-saiyan-god-goku-and-super-saiyan-god-vegeta-divine-warriors-with-infinite-power-super-saiyan-god-duo-divine-dance-of-fire-kamehameha-and-big-bang-attack-gif-14931075396557948880

[strong field]

Ah!

[fair ibex]

mate honestly, that is like latin to me lol

[coarse basin]

that is multishot

but I think you kinda get the idea

[strong field]

Oh like Galv Aptitude then

[coarse basin]

yeah

[strong field]

Hahahahah read [Condition Overload]

[coarse basin]

we love multico

[pallid talon]

it's my crutch

google if it does multco the put it on koumei to pat myself on the back and call it a day

[coarse basin]

nothing better than "yeah sometimes this is really good, sometimes it's so-so, and you only know if the wiki says it is"

[strong field]

I wanna know how good Higasa is tbh....

[fair ibex]

🙂 i struggle with numbers/maths a lot, kinda embrassing but its w/e

[strong field]

I am getting tired of Torid hahahahaah

[strong field]

Ay math is my lowest average you're not alone

[coarse basin]

DUAL TOX PROPAGANDA TIME

[glad tusk]

Some weapons (usually projectile weapons) get a multiplicative effect with galvanized aptitude/shot/savvy

Unfortunately what weapons benefit is consistently inconsistent

[coarse basin]

HEY HAVE YOU HEARD OF THIS COOL SECONDARY CALLED THE DUAL TOXOCYST

[fair ibex]

when i used her on circuit she had the bow - erm beginning with b - Dravmik? summit

[strong field]

Do u think Aptitude will be good for Torid?

[glad tusk]

It works, but its nothing special

[coarse basin]

uhhhh I think the beam cloud has multico or smth

[glad tusk]

Iirc its just additive on the laser beam

[strong field]

Fair, might gonna stay with my Corrosive Cold hahaha

[coarse basin]

need the status chance anyways

[pallid talon]

i haven't built it fully so idk

[strong field]

Fair

[pallid talon]

seems alright, and it's got a super special serration mod

[coarse basin]

nonono corrosive blast. chain beams LOVE blast

[strong field]

No... I know that mod... But I'm into Corrosive Cold

[glad tusk]

Cold offers like.. An extra 2x crit

That's about it...

[strong field]

I know

It fits the CC thematics for either frost or Vauban

[coarse basin]

blast is way cooler and I will not listen to any blast disrespect

[glad tusk]

I run blast on my sobek

[strong field]

Oh no one is disrespecting blast hahahah it's just I don't use Blast that much

[coarse basin]

no.

weirdo

[strong field]

I will run blast on Atomos and Nukor hahahah

[coarse basin]

it's simply better for chain beams, all you need is a heat mod.

[strong field]

They needed it more

[strong field]

I know, but again... CC is my survivability

[coarse basin]

nukor doesn't need it that much actually

[coarse basin]

that's a modding problem

[strong field]

Ouch... That kinda hurts...

I will just say, I have my own build for survivability... That's my case

[coarse basin]

if you need to freeze enemies with a gun that should be shredding them just to survive

that's a modding issue on both the frame and the weapon

[strong field]

I'm into thematics..... No modding issue is happening

I love to play the game with my own theme with it

And even so, I can still do good

That's something I hate in this side.... Sorry, just have to say it

[glad tusk]

Yes, more boom

[coarse basin]

that's less boom

wait are we talking about sobek with a sobek frame

or some weird general use thing

[strong field]

Anyways, is Feb 12 final for Vauban Heirloom?

[glad tusk]

General use

Im a weirdo who runs both acid shells and clip delegation

[vale falcon]

The release date is set to be <t:1770825600:f>, so if that is Feb 12th for you then yeah

[strong field]

Thanks

Oh wait... 12 am? Ah that would be February 13 or 14 for me depending on the time

Fck

[static prism]

what can i sell in the market to earn platinum as a beginner?

[strong field]

Prime parts, and Aya if you gained enough

I mean in trade chats, Aya, but in market, prime parts

[glad tusk]

Prime parts

Corrupted mods if you have the patience

[strong field]

That's true

[glad tusk]

Maybe browse augment mods and see if you have any from your syndicates?

I know the average price for augments is like, 20p

[static prism]

how long will it take to get 50 platinum by selling prime parts?

estimated

[strong field]

Depends

[static prism]

i have one for ember

[glad tusk]

Depends, a prime resurgence warframe fan go for like 40 to 50 plat

A current rotation is usually 25-30

[void otter]

is dual ichor incarnon still a very good melee?

[static prism]

is there any place where i can check the price of my parts that im selling, i get confused by the price of the market

[void otter]

go to warframe.market and just check for how much people sell their stuff

[fair ibex]

what happens when i run out of ammo in my artillary in the rail jack and i have 2 crew ships left ? my cannons can disable them but i cant finish them? am i justy dead ? Lol

i cantt craft them cos it says i need engineering 4

[rich valley]

you cant craft them in the forge?

[fair ibex]

it wont let me says i need engineering 4?

[glad tusk]

All 4 of the forges?

[rich valley]

ah i see, i forgot you need that rank to craft the dome charge

[fair ibex]

oh

[glad tusk]

Also you can exit the railjack to board the enemy ships

There you can break their core

[fair ibex]

oh

why is this not a tutorial for these bits lol

[glad tusk]

No idea

Hopefully DE adds one like the Teacher

[fair ibex]

so if i miss any shot with the artillary ill have to baord?

how do i even do that

[jovial solstice]

To add onto what has been said:

Prices aren't set in stone, don't be afraid to haggle / negotiate.
Everyone is going to try and get the best price for them and that can vary from person to person.

[static prism]

but people put different prices

[static prism]

i see, thanks

[rich valley]

go to the center of the ship, find the circle on the floor until a prompt show up saying "Exit Railjack"

then fly to the back of the Gunship, it will show enter

[sullen sleet]

everyone keeps saying to use titania to farm orokin vaults

[jovial solstice]

Basically just pick a price that looks close to what is the most common.
If you lean towards the higher area, then it gives room for negotiations that still end in your favor.

Example:

Prices for an item are looking to skew about 20p.
You put the price to 30p.
Person says "how about 25p?"

Then they feel they did well and you got 25p.

[sullen sleet]

may I suggest: Uriel

hobbled dragon key does not affect parkour speed

uriel's 1 scales off parkour speed

therefore, Uriel can be viable

[rich valley]

my first year of vault hunting : the top hat man, Limbo

cant be hit if you on the other side

[red holly]

there's one thing I do with all of my frames

I add +25 casting speed shard

Lavos is such a cool frame

[zealous swan]

where do you usually get orokin cells?

[red holly]

I usually don't go out of my way to get orokin cells but if I needed it, I would find a mission I'm interested in farming that's also on the right planet

[rich valley]

Gabii, Ceres. Thats usually my spot if i want a relax farming.

[glad tusk]

Gabii

[zealous swan]

stuff i havent, but will soon, unlocked

[fair ibex]

omg guys i got mr 8 - subsume i here i come

[red holly]

congrats

[fair ibex]

stupid railjack missions tipped me over

[warm glen]

Where should I start? I... can't remember where to get kubrow and kavat... It's been so long, lol. I know the vulpaphylas are Deimos scans?

[rugged shore]

Time to subsume nourish

[zealous swan]

i think kubrow are on earth iirc

[fair ibex]

brush i dont think a grendal farm is really in my immedite future tbh

[zealous swan]

oh nvm

[warm glen]

Right right. Kubrow eggs on Earth and Kavat DNA on uh, derelict tiles? And then what, just RNG?

[rich valley]

yep.

[rich valley]

oh vulvaphyle are not scans, they are weakened. You need to craft antigen and mutagen to make them as yours.

same with predasite

[red holly]

does Lavos lose the imbuement after subsuming?

[rich valley]

sorry? could you explain more?

[rugged shore]

Yes

[red holly]

thanks

[fair ibex]

do i care about abysall beacons if im not making dagath?

[rich valley]

if you are not making it, no need to bother with it

[fair ibex]

aight cool

i already have more frames than i have slots lol

they just chilling in the foundry

[rich valley]

you already max out your nightwave?

[warm glen]

is that what those things are for...

[rich valley]

those beacons are more like keys to do missions to collect resources for dagath crafting.

[fair ibex]

yeah i just wanted to ask in case there was other point to them is all

[warm glen]

I do need a ton of vainthorns (and many, many other such resources...)

[rich valley]

you will only get 6-8 vainthorn per mission.

so prep your mental, becoz its so repetitive

[warm glen]

So what I'm gathering from the Wiki is that... pets are entirely random, unless I find someone kind enough to trade me a pair of DNA to get the missing species I need. Correct?

Either way, I better get incubating...

I've no idea where I would ask for the breeds I need.

[silver breach]

you dont scan Vulpahylas, you catch them

[warm glen]

yes yes, and the other deimos pets

[fair ibex]

Im making my vulp atm 🙂

[silver breach]

yeah Predesites

[sullen sleet]

i want to get a kavat but holy...

[silver breach]

I still dont have Vasca and Smeeta

I already have all Vulps, Predesites, and Kubrows

Dont have any Hounds, or Moas

[red path]

need some getting ready for kavat farming, but it's not really difficult once you get to it

[silver breach]

im missing like 2-3 Sentinels

[red path]

I only missing moas and a few vulps and preds

[silver breach]

Missing Dethcube Prime, Wyrm Prime, regular Helios, and Djinn. so 4

im currently building my first Moa rn

(all the parts should be done actually, I just havent logged in yet)

[red path]

autohack one?

[silver breach]

yeah

[red path]

I wonder why people don't actually use them

[silver breach]

maybe because people dont know about that tech?

[fair ibex]

what are void traces?

[red path]

another reason I see is retriever mods that only work on beasts

[silver breach]

I legit didnt even know about that tech until a few days ago lol

where you can teleport your moa into the spy room without having to go into it yourself

and they hack the console themselves

[fair ibex]

i just quite like hacking tbh, and dont wana waste stuff on making them, but i guess when uve been playing for years its diffeent

[oak solar]

im trying to get slide kills with my boltor incarnon to get the next step, any tips to make it easier?

[silver breach]

used to upgrade relics

[red path]

there is +slide -friction mod

also if you hold crouch while aim gliding in air it counts as slide too

[fair ibex]

oh yeah ofc lol

[limber sorrel]

void traces are a resource you get from doing void missions. they're capped, and the cap is raised with every mr level you gain. they are indeed used to upgrade relics. they're also used to create dragon keys for orokin vaults (where you find corrupted mods)

[oak solar]

is there a best frame to do it on

[late vessel]

Nezh

[fair ibex]

yeah i just never paid attention to what they were called lol

[oak solar]

thank yoi

[limber sorrel]

ah fair!

[silver breach]

do you mean Ciphers? once youll get to "veteran level" youll have millions of the mats to make Ciphers. saves so much headache and time

[red path]

anything you can nuke with, or it specifically states you need to kill with boltor?

[fair ibex]

yeah thats fair 🙂 i totally get that

[limber sorrel]

Oh. Why not use a melee?

It sounds open to non-Boltor kills

If you use a long melee like a two-handed sword or a staff, slide kills get 10x easier

[limber sorrel]

If it isn't open to non-Boltor kills, then this method for sure ^^

[oak solar]

ill test it and report back, cus im not sure

[red holly]

you could also probably use some frame with DoT and slide while they die to it

[limber sorrel]

Bet. Good luck!

[red holly]

like Saryn

[oak solar]

tysm :3

ended up going nezha and just leveling my slide/friction mod lol

[red holly]

Nezha is very strong

good choice

[oak solar]

i slide way too much oh god

[red holly]

what did yo expect?

[willow bluff]

Does Greedy Pull affect Alchemy's elemental drops?

[red path]

I guess: no

Mission items such as Datamasses and Power Cells are unaffected.

probably only affect stuff that can be pulled by fetch/vacuum

[wintry rampart]

how do i get argon crystal easy way?

[red path]

run exterminate or capture in void with xaku/limbo breaking all boxes

[wintry rampart]

cant i manually break boxes?

cause i dont have those frames

[red holly]

yes, you can

it's just faster that way

[red path]

you can, just use weapon with big aoe, those 2 just have ability to break boxes in very big radius

[wintry rampart]

ok ty

[red path]

something like epitaph or shedu is good

just use frame that resistant to stagger/knockdown

[late vessel]

Uriel is a somewhat effective box breaker since he has good mobility if you have him

[rich valley]

or just run a full squad with khora + nekros

[red holly]

I've just found a player with excalibur prime

[heady copper]

no way

[sullen sleet]

dude holy shit Despoil is really popular in wfm

[red holly]

despoil is what makes Nekros Nekros

[red path]

it is very popular mod for farming, and you can't get it if you on hexis/suda/meridian syndicates side

[sullen sleet]

yeah i know i sold like 3 within a few minutes of going online in wfm

[red holly]

and with the surge of new players, Despoil is very popular

[red path]

you have to work through red veil as 4th to get it

[red holly]

since new players want to farm stuff

[wintry rampart]

lol

[white badger]

What's if fass and vome in Deimos open world

I'm looking for namalon and wiki says this spots

[silver breach]

basically day and night cycle

the game introduced you to Fass and Vome during the Deimos quest

[white badger]

What I suspected ahah

[silver breach]

theyre like giant worm creatures that are siblings, and they kill each other every few hours

[white badger]

Ahh.. main quest?

[warm glen]

oh worm?

[silver breach]

the one looking over the drift is the current Cycle

[silver breach]

there should have been a small scene where you see two giant worms lazering each other to death

thats Fass and Vome (they regenerate back to life)

[white badger]

Wasn't that in duviri lmao

[silver breach]

thats the Orowyrm

not Fass and Vome

[white badger]

Btw yesterday I tried finishing lone story of duviri but I got sent to a squad doing open world missions?

[silver breach]

when you go into the Drift, you should see one of them looking over the entire map

[white badger]

Isn't it like a quest campaign over there

[silver breach]

theyre super super super gigantic

[oak solar]

can i use equinoxs meta appearance permanently? also reporting back that nezha meleeing did indeed work :3

[silver breach]

thats only for the Quest "Duviri Paradox" all the modes in Duviri, other than the main quest are open for squads

[white badger]

Hmm so I click lone story. I get sent to the hideout where teshin is. I do not know what to do next lol

[silver breach]

pick a frame, pick your gear, then go through the portal

[red path]

lone story is the same as experience, it's an open world missions, but it only hold missions that are part of "duviri spiral story", i.e. only 6 stages that end with orowurm fight

[white badger]

Gotcha

I can solo it right

[red path]

in experience you can ignore main stages and go searching for other mini-missions to do

you can solo almost anything in this game

[white badger]

I just want to unlock sp circuit ahha

[red path]

some modes need specific setup though

[silver breach]

why not just do it in a squad? it'll be much easier and faster

[red path]

well, why don't you want to do lone story in squad? people won't be doing some random stuff because there is nothing else to do except main stages

[white badger]

I'm just unsure on what to do when I go through the portal tbh. It was late I'll try again today

[white badger]

Noted

[red path]

it should look like a bounty in other open worlds, where you need to go to marked location and do the mini-mission

[white badger]

I think I opened the map and was confused with no markers. Again I'll try again in a bit

[silver breach]

have you dont "Duviri Experience"?

its basically exactly like that, but without the extra side parts

[red path]

fyi, there is ability on drifter to guide you to main objective

you should've used it during duviri introduction quest

[zealous swan]

is horrend a good farming place? i watched a video where a guy just kept going to horrend and stuff

[silver breach]

yeah fast and easy way to get Corrupted mods

you will need to bring Corrupted Keys to access the Vaults for the mods tho.

tho you can go into the mission to "leech" off someone else who has the keys, its typically considered to be very bad practice

[red path]

people who bring all keys tend to run it solo

[zealous swan]

how will you know its “corrupted”, the mods?

[red path]

it's called dragon keys iirc, you get blueprints from orokin lab in dojo

you also get one of each key from one of the junction

[silver breach]

you ONLY get corrupted mods from the Vaults. No other mods come from there.

they typically have a negative stat

[zealous swan]

ohhhh

[red path]

they're called corrupted because they have positive and negative stat

[zealous swan]

which one should i look out for?

[silver breach]

pretty much all the corrupted mods for warframes are used in a metric ton of late game builds

-Overextended
-Blind Rage

[zealous swan]

oh sweet i got blind rage

[silver breach]

-Transient Fortitude
-Narrow Minded
-Catalyzing Shields
-Fleeting Expertise

[red holly]

once you get them you will feel the power of the warframe

[red path]

blind rage, overextended, transient fortitude, narrowmind, creeping bullseye, critical delay, critical deceleration

[zealous swan]

these are the mods i currently have, sorry for the bad quality, is this okay or should i swap stuff out?

[red holly]

you don't need thief's wit

[silver breach]

youll get way more mileage with Equilibrium or Fast deflection

[red holly]

use animal instinct on your companion instead

it does the same thing and saves up a slot

[twilit quest]

which torid incarnon upgrades are worth getting?

[red holly]

it's a nightmare mod though

[jolly plank]

That’s right

[peak river]

Havent used Torid in a bit but iirc I run 233 as the incarnon perks

[twilit quest]

tysm

[silver breach]

How does Wrathful Advance work? Does it REQUIRE an enemy to teleport? Do I need to teleport to an enemy to get the Crit Chance? (ive never used Wrathful/Kullervo/dont have him yet)

[warm glen]

jfc why does everyone always leave after two relics on endless missions

[silver breach]

theyre dumb thats why

[warm glen]

every frikkin time

[peak river]

You can hold the button to teleport without a target and you get the crit chance whenever you teleport in any way

[warm glen]

Lotus forbid we actually crack some relics

[silver breach]

ok thank you for the clarification, so that means I dont need to build range for it yes?

[peak river]

My Kullervo build just stacks strength and some duration

[silver breach]

since I dont need to teleport to enemies specifically

[silver breach]

yeap thats what I figured, thank you so much

[peak river]

And one important thing about Wrathful, it is FINAL crit chance

So it doesn't care about what your weapon is you are getting red crits

[valid siren]

any suggestions on where i can find a weakened Pharaoh Predasite? I know they only show up during Fass but are there specific places they're more likely to spawn? pheromones also wouldn't work since that'd just get me a regular catch

[silver breach]

im pretty sure its just random

best way to get one, is to lure one out yourself, let it get attacked by infested (so it becomes weakened) ,then catch it that way

buy the lures from Son

[valid siren]

i see, so the ones that show up on the map, right?

[silver breach]

yeah

[peak river]

Btw @silver breach you should try Melee Doughty Ceramic Dagger once you have Kullervo/Wrathful
600%ish Crit Chance with a 30x Crit Damage multiplier

[silver breach]

oh im not actually planning to use Kullervo himself sorry. I was mainly asking for Wrathful Advance to use it as a Subsume

[peak river]

He is incredibly fun tho, so do give him a chance at least

[valid siren]

should I wait until I have access to rank 4 mutagens? i'm assuming they're better than the rank 2 ones i have right now

[peak river]

It is one Mod polarity and 2 damage resistances it really isn't that important

[silver breach]

I mean you can start capturing now, and just make the predesite with the mutagens once youre ready

they captured predesites will just stay in your inventory

waiting for you to use them

@vale falcon sorry for tagging you friend, but I gotta ask about the Reave Ivara build (im starting to build out the 2nd Ivara now) whats the strength threshold for the 1 shot? and do you build for Range?

[keen lintel]

Always thought 300 is the CC cap. Or do u mean +600% of base CC

[vale falcon]

290% strength with max viral stacks I believe is the strength requirement for oneshot, can dash through enemies twice in one cast however so not absolutely required

Didn't directly build for range but it wouldn't harm you, but definitely don't reduce it, definitely put in a source of sprint speed too, as that affects reave

1250% strength is required without viral

[silver breach]

oh thats interesting, reave is affected by sprint speed

aight thanks

could you screenshot your build if you have the time?

[white badger]

i thought that was the lone story ahah

[silver breach]

yeah thats the lone story

[silver breach]

thats why I said "its basically like that (refererring to Duviri experience) BUT without the side parts"

[white badger]

thats why i got confused when i lciked it but it didnt seem to be a story mode since i got put into a squad

[silver breach]

its just called that, its not actually a story quest

[white badger]

gotcha

just do all the objectives on lone story

[silver breach]

Duviri has a story in itself, but its not a "story quest"

[white badger]

seems easy enough

btw what intrinsics are the most important on duviri

i think i got combat to 5 and endurance to 3

[red path]

combat imo

but you want to have them all at least at rank 4

[white badger]

i should do the regular circuit first to get some more intrinsics then

i got sp unlocked finally. i just want to unlock sp circuit now XD before next reset

[silver breach]

woah thats very cool. we can copy builds between different copies of frames

thats sooo cool

[keen lintel]

and between non primes and primes

[silver breach]

ok intresting, the length of reave scales off Duration

WOAH reave is really fun wth, I didnt know we could change direction mid reave. I thought it was kinda like Vial Rush where its kinda hard to change coarse

[red holly]

I am crafting Inaros, now that I think of it, Reave could be a solid subsume

isn't reave true damage?

[keen lintel]

there is a reason Rev is played so much.

[silver breach]

I thought it was because of Mesmer skin lmao

[keen lintel]

all 4 of his abilities r broken

Rev's 1 is basically Nyx's 1 but 7 times and u yourself get a buff from thrall pact

Rev's 3 can nuke with proper setup

Rev's 4 is just dance genocide with dmg reflection lol.

[red holly]

can rev's 3 crit if subsumed on someone like gyre?

[keen lintel]

not that i know of

its not a weapon type

[red holly]

gyre's passive gives critical chance to abilities

[waxen thunder]

Doesn’t work on subsumed abils

[cyan aspen]

this wisp warframe is not that fun

[red path]

doen't that exclude subsumed abilities? iirc only temple has passive that affect subsumes

[waxen thunder]

Have you built them properly

[cyan aspen]

Nope

[waxen thunder]

thats probably why

[cyan aspen]

yeah probably

the augments are locked behind standing

[red holly]

all wisp needs is strength and fused reservoir

[waxen thunder]

They are like 10 plat

[cyan aspen]

Oh

ok noted thanks

[red path]

from wiki:

Helminth-subsumed abilities and Railjack turret abilities such as Seeker Volley do not benefit from Gyre's passive.

[red holly]

shame

[silver breach]

bruh reave is insane wth is this skill

[peak river]

CC does not have a cap like that afaik

[red path]

300% is cc cap for gyre passive, but on weapons there is no really a cap

[silver breach]

bruh youre also invuln during reave 👀

[keen lintel]

aah. my b then

[silver breach]

does it cleanse statuses?

asking the right questions

[keen lintel]

and 4. and 2. told u. broken

[silver breach]

WTF

IT DOES CLEANSE?

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/rebecca-ford-rebecca-tongue-tongue-out-tongue-sticking-out-gif-6229561104588923290

[silver breach]

bro wtf is revenant

[keen lintel]

in WF Community, Revenant is called as Rebb's child. basically a frame that got the most love.

[red path]

all active status effects on Revenant are also transferred to enemies he passes through
Revenant still removes all status effects if doesn't pass through any enemy

[silver breach]

WHAT!?

[keen lintel]

ye

[red path]

just read wiki page

[silver breach]

HUH!???

[red holly]

revenant got it all

[silver breach]

and reave doesnt cost anything energy wise lol

[vale falcon]

Reave is a broken ability, it also counts as invis so crepuscular works during it as well

[red holly]

50 energy is nothing

[silver breach]

im assuming Growing Power is a better aura (I dont have it yet)

[red holly]

corrosive projection is a fine general use aura

[devout burrow]

can never go wrong with CP

unless you have true dmg

[silver breach]

yeah but its on a Reave Ivara Does reave benefit from armor strip?

[red holly]

no

[devout burrow]

ye then its useless

[red path]

Use Aim Glide during Reave to descend slowly.
Move the aiming reticle during Reave to change your dash direction.
Dash in a circle around enemies to drain from them multiple times.
Consoles can be activated and terminals can be hacked while Reave is active.
When falling from a sufficient height that would induce a hard landing, activate Reave before or immediately after the hard landing to cancel it.

[sand stirrup]

Thoughts?

[red holly]

can't wait to see if Inaros really is as bad as people say

[silver breach]

cant wait to make allies confused with Reave Ivara lol

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[red holly]

right one is great

[vale falcon]

I outrun so many with reavara, it's really funny, outpaced a Gauss once

[red holly]

Reave probably gives you more control over your character than Gauss

[vale falcon]

It does, since it's based on camera direction instead of a set direction unless in the air

[silver breach]

I already outrun Gauss' and Volts with good movement tech already. Cant wait to out race them LMAOOOO

[red holly]

I like using streamlined form on my volt

it makes my slides very fast and slippery

very fun

[zealous swan]

where do you get melee influ?

[red holly]

bird 3

and during missions in sanctum anatomica

[onyx glen]

is this okay for now or do I need riven mods

[white badger]

are all these parazon mods specific for 99 gamepla

[red holly]

yes

[red holly]

you absolutely do not need rivens for torid incarnon

[zealous swan]

90% crit chance 🥹

this makes me happy

[silver breach]

Riven mods ARE NEVER NEEDED. Theyre just there if you want your weapon to deal more damage.

[red path]

specific to coda gameplay, you need to find one antivirus mod that work on the coda, you can slot 3 of them at the same time when doing so, order don't matter

[silver breach]

yes

[onyx glen]

oh okay bough plat for the 65% off coupon

thought it was neededthanks

[red path]

once you find your antivirus, you can put potency mods in remaining slots

btw, you need to be mr17+ to buy coda weapons

[wheat cave]

is that just me or someone punched his face a bit too hard

[sullen sleet]

dont worry their face is always like that

[wheat cave]

with miss placed parts that clip into each other?

[sullen sleet]

they're broken dont worry about it

[red holly]

eventually you will stop worrying about stuff being broken in this game

it's a shame primary overcharge doesn't work on frames with no energy because they don't have 0 energy, they have no energy whatsoever

otherwise 90% of 0 would be 0

[red path]

that would actually be an interesting change if frames that don't use energy for abilities could still have it for a buff such as this, for example with arcane battery

[frosty flint]

No cause then you might as well use everything with anything

De don’t do that

[red holly]

and I don't expect them to do that

the frames with no energy are already strong

talking about Hildryn and Lavos

[heady copper]

they have an energy pool

[frosty flint]

If you go the poe route then warframe would actually have a meta

[heady copper]

it just doesn't show and they have no way of using it

[red holly]

if that's the case, they've simply hard coded the arcanes that work with energy to not work on them?

[heady copper]

probably

[orchid frigate]

Would you say going after a kuva lich / sister of parvos is harder than coda technocyte? I've dealt with my first technocyte yesterday and it wasn't so hard but the weapons are MR locked for me at this point ...

[silver breach]

not necessarily harder

just longer

[foggy rivet]

way longer

[lofty garden]

eh, not that much longer

lich/sister missions are faster than the mess that is the 1999 tileset

[silver breach]

true

[foggy rivet]

then i must doing something wrong

[orchid frigate]

I need to get the requiem mods first anyway

But I'll wait for the update, If I got it right DE will rework the requiem relics

[red holly]

they will introduce a new relic that's just requiem mods

[lofty garden]

As I ran a bunch of lich and sister missions recently to boost my current weapon stats, probably.

[red holly]

speaking of, I'll be getting tenet glaxion

wish me luck, or not

oh, I forgot how to throw xoris

hold E, okay

[pure gulch]

you have now learnt to throw every glaive

[red holly]

I clearly am not a glaive player haha

[rugged shore]

Nah finishing a coda lich is absolutely faster lol

[lost geyser]

Wait glaives are hold e?

[silver breach]

no it is faster, just not that much faster imo

[silver breach]

none

all are throw

[rugged shore]

Id say its a ton faster but maybe just personal experience? Zero rng involved no murmurs to execute you just speedrun missions

Also no railjack fighting thank god

[silver breach]

uhhh it does have railjack

[red holly]

if we also count the time spent on finding the right weapon, then yes, coda technocyte is faster

[rugged shore]

It has railjack but no spacefight

[red holly]

as long as the weapon you want is currently in the rotation

[foggy rivet]

but why completing mission doesnt make lich/sister mad and doesnt make requiem murmur progress?

[naive musk]

can anyone help me? i dont understand why venus is still incomplete

[red holly]

deepmines in fortuna

[naive musk]

is it a quest?

[marble rover]

Have you done the new war?

It’s a tilseset that unlocks after you beat that quest

[coarse basin]

they haven't

no murex

[marble rover]

I’m really hungry

[coarse basin]

for some...

cheese?

[marble rover]

No

I’m lactose intolerant

[coarse basin]

...

then why are you cheese

[foggy rivet]

lol

[marble rover]

Also i named my account after my cat

[coarse basin]

why is your cat cheese

also can't lactose intolerant people eat cheese?

[vale falcon]

Only some types I believe

[coarse basin]

aged types

idk

ik fermenting cuts the lactose down a lot

[warm glen]

mfw i finally get a squad for 40 minutes relic cracking... and then one or two of them apparently has (worse) ADHD (than me) and keeps wandering off and dragging enemies, lol............

[white badger]

i saw these extractors on the worlds. how do they work

[marble rover]

Yes

But it wouldn't be pleasant for me OR whoever visits the toilet next

[coarse basin]

they give you passive resources

generally something like plastids or nano spores

[marble rover]

My cat was named Cheddar because I was allergic to him. Thought it was funny at the time

[coarse basin]

ssometimes orokin cells

[white badger]

that part i got

but how do i get them

[coarse basin]

gotta buy bps and build

[warm glen]

market i think? or is it in the clan dojo?

[coarse basin]

market

[white badger]

from where sorry

[marble rover]

Yeah there should be BPs on the market

[warm glen]

grab titan extractors if you can

[white badger]

oh i bought the regular one

cause oxium is not that easy to get XD

[lost geyser]

Why is Titan better than distilling?

[warm glen]

it's possibel i have them backwards

[lost geyser]

Ah

[warm glen]

i run whichever takes 8 hours

[white badger]

distilling gives increased rares yea

but it takes oxium

i kinda want it for weps/other crafts

[lost geyser]

Use it to mine oxium

[white badger]

so far this is my 10th wf day and im mr10 XD

[white badger]

well if it gives more then yea ahah

[warm glen]

yeah the extractors are mostly useful for (small amounts of) passive O Cores (i think?) and poly bundles and oxium

[white badger]

ill buy the other distilled bp and put it oxium planet too

[warm glen]

you can do 3 at a time

technically using them lowers their health, so it's "smart" to have a set of spares to rotate between

i don't think that's much of a worry, though...??

(they auto-regenerate while not in use)

[void otter]

is dual ichor still a very good wep?

[silver breach]

yes

[vale falcon]

All incarnons are still at least good, and most are considered great still

[red holly]

I am using dual ichor and it's amazing

especially with gas build

and it does still have good dispo

[lost geyser]

O cores?

[warm glen]

orokin

[vale falcon]

All weapons can't go down dispos now, so it's gonna stay at that current one

[lost geyser]

Oh the cells

Which planets should I put em on

[warm glen]

my bad, yes, o cells

up to you, what resources do you need most

i personally go for the polymer planets and the last on an orokin cell planet

[red holly]

could you clarify?

[vale falcon]

Dispositions have been confirmed that they will not be reduced ever again, only increase whenever a new prime releases if they are underused

[warm glen]

they effectively stopped the riven program

it's not meant to be punitive

what are the weekly tasks? i've got archon and iron wake/riven shards done. what else?

circuit and uh, archimedea? is that all?

[vale falcon]

Hex calendar as well, but think that's it

[warm glen]

oh ty

[rugged shore]

Descendia

[warm glen]

ooh that too. i think i forgor SP last week

still haven't done archimedea.... maybe this week i'll give it an attempt... and finish a circuit...

[silver breach]

Descendia, ETA/EDA/Netracell, Weekly Teshin

Weekly 1999 Calendar

[warm glen]

netracell? teshin?

[silver breach]

yes

teshin has a weekly rotating shop

[warm glen]

"yes" does not tell me waht those are

[silver breach]

also Bird 3 has a shard

[warm glen]

oh . might have done teshin this morning

[silver breach]

what else am I supposed to say, you asked for what the weekies are lol

Netracells use search pulses the same as EDA/ETA, but only eats 1 (ETA and EDA eat 2, we get 5 a week, so you can do 1 Netracell.)

or 5 Netracells if you dont like doing EDA/ETA

[red holly]

EDA/ETA are different for each player

[silver breach]

basically talk to Tagfer in the Sanctum, and he will tell you to go into Albrecht's labs to steal his loot

thats what Netracells are.

drops stuff like Arcanes or Archon Shards

[vale falcon]

Khal as well I just remembered, another weekly for ya

[red holly]

also ayatan hunt and clem

[warm glen]

oh yeah and kahl, ty

and mara

[left lava]

hi how does damage numbers work in Warframe? are they capped on the enemies max health or do it shows me only the actual damage my Weapon deals

[warm glen]

no cap afaik

[red path]

it shows you how much damage was taken by enemy, but not capped by enemy remaining hp

[cyan aspen]

is hoarding index points a strat or is this guy griefing my runs

[red path]

so if enemy has some kind of damage reduction like armor, it will reduce numbers

[silver breach]

strat

[cyan aspen]

oh

[silver breach]

well depends

[warm glen]

i think it's technically possible to hit the INT_MAX size

[silver breach]

theres defintiely still a chance hes griefing

[red path]

up to 15 points is efficient strat

[warm glen]

strat

[left lava]

so basically my weapon deals always 10 damage and the enmie has 5 hp then it always shows me the 10 damage?

[cyan aspen]

right

[vale falcon]

If it hits a shield with a headshot it is capped on that shield (but shows the damage that went past with no cap), otherwise it doesn't have one

[cyan aspen]

how does that work perchance

[warm glen]

ideally you only have one runner, everyone else kills for them to pick up and turn in (every 20)

[silver breach]

yes

[cyan aspen]

right

[warm glen]

is it 15? or 20. either way... no you aren't being griefed, lol. i personally never pick them up, but instead WP them on drop

[silver breach]

we can reach damage numbers like 2.1 billion, while enemies only have 2 million HP

[red path]

you get bonus points when scoring depending on how much points you carry

it peaks at 15 points and after that it's deminishing returns

[vale falcon]

If it's 5hp, 5 shields and you do 20 damage on a headshot, it would show a 5shield damage, and 15 hp damage, if no shields then it would just show 20 damage

[silver breach]

iirc max bonus points is like +20? i think

[left lava]

are damage numbers like 1 - 2 billion even possible on non incarnon weapons without a crit buff frame?

[red path]

max bonus is +10 at 20 points carried

[silver breach]

yes

there are plenty of ways of getting to 2 billion damage

incarnon weapons arent the end all be all

[vale falcon]

The weapon easiest to hit damage cap with isn't even an incarnon I believe, pretty sure zaws are the easiest

[void otter]

syam kullervo for example no?

[silver breach]

a lot of times you can even hit 2 billion damage with non crit hits (blast or gas LMAO)

[void otter]

what are zaws

[silver breach]

custom melee weapons that you can create

[silver breach]

just 1 example yeah

[vale falcon]

The weapons you make at hok in Cetus, it's more specifically because of the exodia contagion arcane that is exclusive to zaws, which have really silly scaling

[left lava]

imagine i would play the nataruk with insane mods and the best arcane possible on it and my warframe is Mirage without mods and no damage buff activated. is it possible to reach even 1 billion without a headshot?

[red holly]

zaws are modular weapons you can create in Cetus

[silver breach]

no? how are you reaching a billion damage without mods or damage buffs lol

99.999% of all our damage comes from mods and buffs

[vale falcon]

They meant nothing being buffed by mirage, just mods on the nataruk

[void otter]

are zaws gindy? are they good besides single target dammage?

[silver breach]

I mean isnt the answer still no?

[void otter]

Is nataruk good for anything except frame lvling?

[silver breach]

yes

[warm glen]

yes

granted i don't love bows, but it's one of the best, along with paris prime i think?

(rip my beloved dread)

[void otter]

can nataruk create big boom?

[vale falcon]

Not the most grindy, but without that arcane they're alright

And nataruk is probably one of the better single target weapons in the game (and probably the best bow)

It's top 3 at the very least anyway

[warm glen]

zaws aren't terrible imo...? ehh. the hard part is the arcane farm?

but they're very good melee options

[silver breach]

I personally dont think its even close to being the best bow imo. Daikyu Prime, Paris Prime, Dread and Cinta are very very up there

[void otter]

i mean like can nataruk clear groups tho?

[vale falcon]

If they're lined up yes, it's not a bomb

[red path]

imo cinta is only one competing with nataruk for best bow, because cinta can equip split flights

[silver breach]

really

I gotta look at the Nataruk then

[warm glen]

can i hire someone to come to my apartment and play Yareli's Pro Skater for me thx

[left lava]

so then i guess with my just 800 hours on this game and Mirage in combination with the nataruk reaching max numbers like 6 Million is fine then?

[silver breach]

I could have sworn Natraruk isnt close to the 4 I mentioned

[warm glen]

get this goofy ahh quest out of here

[void otter]

:(

[silver breach]

depends on your loadout, the buffs youre applying, and the mods youre equipping

[void otter]

does exalted blade scale multiplicatively?

[silver breach]

with what?

[vale falcon]

Strength and base damage mods are multiplicative but condition overload isn't to pressure point

[strong field]

Below Daiku and Dread hahahaha that I'm sure

[void otter]

with condition overload and pressure point

like syam

[silver breach]

no it isnt

[vale falcon]

Only syam, corufell, tenet agendus, tenet grigori, verdilac and nepheri have weird interactions involving condition overload for melees

[warm glen]

🤯 wtf

[red holly]

yes, this is weekly as well

[silver breach]

Like I said

[empty scroll]

Nataruk is only "single target" cause it doesn't explode. But it's basically arca plasmor in bow form so you can still clear out hallways and choke points in single shots

Not explosive= \ = not multi target

[red holly]

Nataruk is very much an AoE bow modded properly

[empty scroll]

With gas or blast definitely but innately it just has a big projectile and lots of punch through

[red holly]

yeah, it has very good punch through

[leaden spade]

Infinite body punch through

[empty scroll]

Multi-target but NOT explosive aoe (unless you mod for it)

[vale falcon]

I did say this as well, I know it's not a purely single target dw

[graceful sandal]

quick question does lycath's hunt (voruna's 3) proc arcone flow and arcone vitality?

[leaden spade]

I’m nothing like fast enough with a bow to use one as a Warframe weapon lol

I need my explosives and fire rate crutches

[vale falcon]

No to flow, yes to vit

[leaden spade]

“Lemme just draw this bow rq….”
three Tenno fly past me and kill the room
“Well crap”
^me

[left lava]

i tried to build like this: i dont own this arcane and used Primary merciless (or the same for headshots). is this build troll or is it actually viable for highlevel enemies?

[empty scroll]

You should try stuff like the Nataruk, Tenet arca plasmor, bassocyst etc. Good middle grounds between having multi target capability but still requiring a little bit of aim

Also bassocyst has innate blast

[vale falcon]

You can drop serration if you don't have longbow for anything else you can think of

That build is a great one for it

[graceful sandal]

but the doublee dip on heat status effect doesn't really synergize well with her?

[leaden spade]

Coda Bassocyst has innate-whatever El felt like that week

[graceful sandal]

aww dang it i was hoping to build some energy sustain

[leaden spade]

I def have and have used all those weapons tho

[empty scroll]

Oh no it has innate blast and radiation ON TOP of whatever elemental bonus is available

Like it will just always have those two elements before modding or other bonuses

[leaden spade]

Oh right… reading the gun explains the gun.

My b

[silver breach]

Blast isn't a progenitor element

[leaden spade]

Yeh I realized my dumbness immediately

It’s early… lol

[vale falcon]

Sadly it doesn't, however the 2nd ability can set off stretch and continuity as well,so some sustain is possible

[left lava]

okey nice. so i could basically remove serration and stormbringer and add Virus damage on it?

[leaden spade]

Also Bassocyst aims for you with alt fire, I almost never use the shotgun half

[graceful sandal]

and what about archon intensify? does it proc with her 3?

[empty scroll]

One of these days I want to actually get on a prime time stream and bring the most memey loadout I can think of

[vale falcon]

I don't like viral on bows myself, I would prefer heat+elementalist, elec+elementalist, gas, blast or corro, viral wants to have fast application, which bows can't really provide

[empty scroll]

I basically never use the alt fire. It's interesting but if I wanted to constantly be doing finishers on enemies I'd just be using melee anyways

[silver breach]

Blast on bows is soo euphoric

[vale falcon]

No as health orbs do not proc it, only direct heals

[left lava]

ohh okey makes sense

[graceful sandal]

ok ty

[leaden spade]

Just let them die. I usually dont finisher. I just alt fire 2-4 times on a pack and move on. They are dead before they are off my radar

[floral osprey]

It's a very good way to prime enemies for gunditionoverload multiplication stuff since you can have like 4 or 5 statuses on that weapon

[left lava]

Thanks for all the help

[red holly]

let's see the tenet glaxion roll

[silver breach]

I think the bassocyst alt fire feels really weird, sometimes it just doesn't fire when I click the alt fire, so I just default the regular mode

[leaden spade]

It will only fire if it sees an enemy to auto hit

If no one is there trigger does nothing

(Or not in range)

[red holly]

woohoo 25% !

[floral osprey]

Try using the galv range mod to increase its range so to try to hit stuff cuz with and without the range mod feels like night and day for me

[silver breach]

Does it have a range? I swear even if I target at enemies, sometimes it just doesn't fire

[silver breach]

Oh so it does have a range then

[leaden spade]

Yeh, the Galv range exilus is the answer

[silver breach]

Aight I'll be sure to test it out

Thanks for the clarification

[leaden spade]

It’s actually projectile speed but same thing in this case

[vale falcon]

25m range according to wiki without boosts

[leaden spade]

Yeh it’s pretty short without mods

[red holly]

have they speeden up revealing the requiems for sisters of parvos?

in the last 6 years?

[pseudo fern]

nah

[tidal adder]

Which one we choosing?

[pseudo fern]

huh

[boreal pier]

reroll

but 2

[red holly]

right one for sure

[void otter]

why do i sometimes hit numbers like -2B on syam but mostly like 100 mil or less

[lofty garden]

Computers aren't that good at math.

[void otter]

no but like why dont i CONSISTENTLY do -2B

[lofty garden]

You'd have to watch the indicators on the HUD.

[void otter]

the max for warframe is 2.14 cuz thats the intiger limit but when the dammage gets to high it switches to negatives to scale again and then again

[lofty garden]

And a lot of the game is chance-based.

[void otter]

Urgh

the flip

[red holly]

simply you are dealing negative damage because you are dealing too much damage

[void otter]

ik but why dont i consistently do it :(

[red holly]

probably crit chance and/or weak point multiplier

[leaden spade]

Crit damage is almost always the most desirable riven stat.

[silver breach]

Myriad of reasons, maybe some of your buffs have run out of duration, maybe sometimes you hit enemies with higher stacks of Viral, Corrosive, Cold or Puncture, maybe you're hitting enemies with armor, maybe you're, hitting enemies with more armor, maybe youre headshotting, etc etc etc

[void otter]

oh headshotting on melees is a thing?

[silver breach]

You're using Syam right? Doesn't it have a ranged attack?

[vale falcon]

It's a grounded wave, so unlike corufell it can't easily headshot

[silver breach]

You're running condition overload right? Maybe you're hitting enemies with less status effects on them

[gusty turtle]

Yes. All melee can headshot.

[silver breach]

But it can right? It's still a factor to why he's sometimes getting the 2 billion vs not

[gusty turtle]

They can hit weakpoints in general

Even artificial ones like Sonar on Banshee

[void otter]

i guess i was just close enough to luckily hit a headshot

[vale falcon]

I think it can, but it is a lot harder to hit them overall

[red holly]

there are certain weapons with certain combos that can land headshots more consistently

I remember heavy blades having a combo with one of the stances that had two overhead attacks

might be tempo royale

[vale falcon]

I think so on that, machetes are also good for headshots with one of their stances too

[gusty turtle]

Yeah you straight up just make a direct vertical slam

[red holly]

no, I was thinking of rending crane

[gusty turtle]

Easiest headshots

[red holly]

depends on the stance

but when you see huge numbers you know that you've landed that melee headshot

[tidal adder]

I ended up re rolling again and I think I’m gonna stick with this roll I just got

[red holly]

yeah, take it, +cc +cd is good

[silver breach]

The neg status duration is hella painful tho

[tidal adder]

Ino makes me wanna cry

[silver breach]

Like none of your status effects will ever stick thus neutering your damage

[red holly]

not sure if even Saryn or Lavos could counteract it in a meaningful way

I mean it can be helpful for blast builds to have short status duration

[silver breach]

Corrosive won't stick so no armor strip, viral won't stick so no damage mult, heat wony stick so no dot, etc etc etc

[red holly]

perhaps don't upgrade it fully

[silver breach]

Oh true blast still works ig

[red holly]

so you don't reach the 1-00% status duration

[leaden spade]

No, just use Blast

[tidal adder]

So do I re roll it again?

[gusty turtle]

Most statuses last 6s, having even 50% cuts it to 3s

[silver breach]

Wait we might be cooking with an instant blast proc build

Try it out with blast, it might actually be crazy

[red holly]

I think so too, I'm just not sure if status duration that low will even allow for blast to be procced or it would simply explode instantly

[gusty turtle]

Procs still happen

[red holly]

but I think it would just be instant which is actually a very good neg

[leaden spade]

They will still happen, and explode instantly

[silver breach]

Instant blast + Xatas on a burston sounds pretty good

[gusty turtle]

You can say goodbye to literally any other status though

[tidal adder]

Are you guys turning my riven into some godly build 😂. So what the verdict should I keep it or re rolling it?

[leaden spade]

Keep it for now

[red holly]

keep it and try a blast build

[gusty turtle]

You should give it to me for safekeeping

[silver breach]

Test it out, you won't ever know if you don't try

[leaden spade]

I rolled this the other day and it hurts.
Thankfully ammo max doesn’t affect incarnon charge, and since Furis doesn’t take a useful exilus mod I can compensate.

Without Trick Mag i have to fill ammo pickups three times just to reload

With it… no difference

[red holly]

I am still happy with the dual ichor roll I got recently, it's kind of a god roll

heat actually helps with gas damage

[leaden spade]

I’m so Influence brained atm lol

But yeh that’s a fantastic roll

[red holly]

it is an influence build

[leaden spade]

Nice, I don’t usually use any other element beyond electric

Prisma Ohma, and Okina are my go to influence weapons

Ohma does funny things, it’s one of those weapons old enough to not have a unique trait icon but does in fact have one.

[red holly]

I also have this very old riven but Tiberon is not as strong as it used to be

[leaden spade]

Oh wow

Nice

[red holly]

never mind, I think it's still good, but the trick is to use semi fire and change an option in the settings to fire semi weapons continuously when fire button is held

and pop heads

[leaden spade]

That setting makes a lot of weapons much better tbh

[red path]

not using this?

[gusty turtle]

No

[red holly]

tried, I don't like it

[leaden spade]

That mod is so good but I’ll be real I HATE using it lol

[gusty turtle]

If I miss that even once in mission I'm ending my life

[red holly]

missing feels so bad

[valid siren]

omg i had a forma in the foundry and i claimed it from the companion app, but now its not showing up anywhere

[red holly]

I would be using tiberon not as a status damage weapon but pure damage weapon

[faint raft]

Is laetum crit build with enervate better than the non crit build?

[white badger]

are these 2 my best bets?

i heard torid is really good. i already got the atomos wep with catalyst

[red holly]

torid and atomos are great, dual ichor is great as well

but torid is the best choice for sure

[silver breach]

Dual tox is great as well, miter is great as well

[white badger]

since i already got atomos ill go with torid too

[void otter]

do i need max standing to craft zaws?

[gusty turtle]

Dual Tox is dual tox, it dumpsters Torid imo