gameplay-discussion

[final cloak]

Which?

[white badger]

not sure. i like gauss cause he feels like he's fast paced like volt*

[silver breach]

I think youre ignoring a lot of what makes Loki good, and just chopping it up as "other frames can do that too".

So were just gonna say literal immortality is bad because another frame is also immortal?

[white badger]

and maybe octavia cause i like music? i dont know any frames lol

[final cloak]

I'm saying every frame can be immortal
And most frames have better abilities than Loki
So yeah my point stands

[white badger]

any suggestions for a new/returning player on which to get? besides gauss

[silver breach]

Loki has free movement in invis. Ivara cant parkour, Octavia has to match the beat, Cyte-09 needs headshot kills. Loki just needs to press his skill

[final cloak]

You should get gauss
He's only going up in price and will keep going up for like a year

[final cloak]

You forgot about the original stealth ninja assassin

[white badger]

i just need him for the riven mod really XD the go undetected part scratched my head but he seems like a good candidate

[silver breach]

yeah I do get that. I agree his skills are very very very very very bland. But telling someone not to use a frame is in very bad faith imo

[final cloak]

I mean
Why use a frame when there are better option?

[white badger]

and besides that one? im like, just getting any at random cause i know i want to collect them all eventually

[silver breach]

let them play the frame, and make them decide whether or not a frame is worth it

[red holly]

preference

[final cloak]

One that looks cool

[white badger]

a prime one to buy in warframe.wmarket

[final cloak]

yes yes I totally get that
I meant in the same class like stealth

[white badger]

most of them do ahah

[final cloak]

What do you like in a frame

[silver breach]

youre asking me, an Ivara main, why bother using frames that arent the top 1%? because its fun?

[final cloak]

I meant in the same class

[shy wedge]

watch what they do in youtube and find that one playstyle that resonates with you

[white badger]

maybe one thats a bit different than gauss/volt? i like them for being fast paced. i feel like im slicing at huuuge speeds with volt

[red holly]

I'd say there is no overlap in the invisibility frames

[white badger]

i also like to try new playstyles

[silver breach]

Loki and Ivara arent in the same class

[red holly]

each have a different niche

[white badger]

and i wont know until i try ig but i know what you're saying

[final cloak]

They are used for the same purpose tbh

[unreal ruin]

wait really damn

[tired smelt]

Which is the best mission to farm salvage?

[unreal ruin]

I got a couple of parts and bough the rest for 10p

[final cloak]

I got 35 sets chilling in my inv lol

[silver breach]

Loki is all about disruption, and manipulating the field. Ivara is a weapons platform that buffs weapons to high heaven. Literally the only thing they have in common is invsisibility

[white badger]

so any prime frame to buy with a different style than gauss/volt? send a random one that has good class fantasy ^^ can be personal prefference

[final cloak]

Let's be real
Disruption and manipulating doesn't work as intended in Warframe

[lofty garden]

Why buy when there are nine in the relic pool?

[shy wedge]

Watching youtube will still give you an idea on what you are getting into. Better than spending platinum mindlessly then after waiting for 3 and a half days in foundry and you're trying out the frame, it doesn't resonate with you at all and you feel bad.

[unreal ruin]

lmfao

[white badger]

thats true

[white badger]

how much plat does it cost to skip the 3 day period btw?

[final cloak]

If you like fantasy maybe try nezha?
Wukong is also a cool fantasy frame

[final cloak]

50
Never do it

[unreal ruin]

50 plat

whale ahh mentaility lol

[white badger]

i tried nezha in circuit and it felt cool despite me not really knowing what i was doing

[red holly]

Ivara would be a better frame if she could keep up

[unreal ruin]

look I am not gonna tell you what to do with your plat, but rushing is a waste

[white badger]

i feel like i dont resonate much with wukong XD

[final cloak]

Rushing is one of the biggest wastes of plat in the game

[unreal ruin]

I thinka guy here used his starter plat to buy colour schemes

[red holly]

but she's supposed to be this stealth archer thief kind of a frame

[silver breach]

im just gonna move on, we clearly play very differently

[shy wedge]

50 plat and that's not including the neuroptics, chassis, and systems since you also need to craft them and it takes 12 hours

[white badger]

that 12 hours im ok with lol

[final cloak]

Me too lol I hate him the most
Nezha is like a Chinese emperor I think?
It's Related to fire
xaku is a bit fantasy imo, he's funny

[white badger]

just cause i dont have any frames besides volt

i just want a bit of variety lol

[unreal ruin]

nah ne zha was more like a demigod?

[late vessel]

Childlike Chinese deity

[unreal ruin]

oh deity

[shy wedge]

personally I like Titania

[unreal ruin]

I cant talk at all, all of my primes are being made lmao

[true timber]

atlas fists are considered a melee weapon not an ability right

[white badger]

i think im going with prime nezha and prime gauss. nezha is going for 65 and gauss for 40

[late vessel]

Melee exalted should count

[final cloak]

there are basic frame like titania which is a fairy that can fly or a frame that's tied to a specific element like magnetic or fire or ice
And there are complex ones that require more than just baseline knowledge to know what is actually going on

[lofty garden]

It only really makes sense to rush something if there's an affinity weekend, and you know it has to be forma'ed mutiple times. Even then, it's not a great excuse.

[late vessel]

The heck why is Nezha so cheap

[unreal ruin]

so far I have a gauss prime, volt prime, almost all of caliban prime (missing chasis) and also yareli (also chasis or systems)

[final cloak]

Her resurgence was like 2 months ago

[lofty garden]

Melee exalted count for abilitiy kills and melee kills.

[silver breach]

underrated = low demand = cheap

[unreal ruin]

actually shocked you can get primes this fast lol

[lofty garden]

Nezha's a "he".

[white badger]

gauss prime would be a basic one right, and nezha too?

[final cloak]

She's one of the best nuke frames
Plus there is way too much supply rn

[silver breach]

She?

[unreal ruin]

ne zha is good?

[late vessel]

You get some primes faster than some base warframe

[unreal ruin]

ne zha is a he also no?

[silver breach]

very

[late vessel]

Extremely good

[white badger]

more talking about the playstyle

[unreal ruin]

prime or basic?

oh wait there isnt much of a difference

[final cloak]

Yep
a speedster that can control fire (not really it's more like heat)
Better way of putting it
He's a moving battery that uses it's heat to make storms

[final cloak]

Right right I forgot

[silver breach]

id say Gauss is somewhat complex

[unreal ruin]

gauss also looks cool af

atleast prime

[final cloak]

I'd say otherwise
The battery system might look complicated but it's really simple

[final cloak]

Base better than prime

[unreal ruin]

btw hows wukong, he seems good for spy missions which I hate

[silver breach]

compare him to other frames that dont have that

[unreal ruin]

wait really?

why tho

or in like appearance

[final cloak]

I mean
Nowadays most of the new frames has atleast some kind of system to understand
plus gauss is good in every aspect so it's worth learning his mechs

[silver breach]

hes just fast in Spy. You still have to know your way around each vault, and solve the puzzles. Wukong just makes the process faster

[final cloak]

Appearance

[unreal ruin]

hmm idk

gauss base looks too plain?

[final cloak]

For me the prime looks too plain

[unreal ruin]

i like my complex geometrical designs

[final cloak]

Besides the helm

[unreal ruin]

wait lol really?

then again I havent played either so judging off headshots

[unreal ruin]

absolutely despise those missions

[late vessel]

Wukong can bypass the laser and camera so he's the best spy frame rn

[shy wedge]

Your stick gets bigger and you get a copy that attacks (if you use melee it uses primary and vice versa). Personally I got Wukong for the big stick it's pretty cool exalted weapon.

[unreal ruin]

I meant like the ability he has where he turns into wind

which should ignore laser and stuff

[true timber]

super easy for spy missions, esp once you use the auto hack helminth ability and build for max efficiency and duration so yo ucan just perma cloud walker

[shy wedge]

It's a good skill but honestly I despise Wukong in Spy missions, or at least, pub Wukong players.

[unreal ruin]

man I gotta make the helminth

how do I get it again?

[shy wedge]

They speedrun the mission just to fail it anyways lol

[ancient pulsar]

Whatever happened to that mechanic where someone could steal your warframe?

[true timber]

rank 3 with entrati family on deimos i believe.

[silver breach]

Deimos

[unreal ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/vignesh123-vigneshfisrtgif-yoda123-yodamars-gif-13055175463724769097

[silver breach]

Deimos is like the easiest Syndicate to level up. You can stockpile mother tokens endlessly

[lofty garden]

Yeah, but you have to do bounties...

[silver breach]

play a bunch of missions for like a day, you boom, your entire week is freed up because of the tokens

[silver breach]

are bounties even bad?

[lofty garden]

They get a little repeitive. Before Adis, they were the most annoying chatters.

[silver breach]

theyre pretty chill in my experience

[lofty garden]

They are, the dialog just gets annoying.

[silver breach]

I mean the entire game is repetitive

[unreal ruin]

what do the tokens even do?

[shy wedge]

can you ping mods in this discord?

[silver breach]

you trade them for standing

[unreal ruin]

ah

so just do bounties then

[shy wedge]

there's a bot or scammer in #squad-recruitment

oh nvm someone already pinged them

[silver breach]

unlike for other syndicates where you have to actively get standing from their bounties each day since theyre capped. You can just freely stockpile tokens in Deimos.... infinitely. You can just trade the tokens each day

but have a metric ton ready at all times

[fair ibex]

when it says "slinging through enemies" what does this mean? what is sling:?

[lofty garden]

There's repetitive where you turn your brain off, and then there's repetitive where the NPCs grate on you.

[silver breach]

which means you dont have to play deimos everyday

[silver breach]

void sling

[fair ibex]

what is this ?

[red path]

you run, then crouch to slide

[fair ibex]

oh

[late vessel]

Do you finished war within already

[silver breach]

youve beaten War Within right?

[lofty garden]

Means you pop your inner child out and "jump" into the enemy.

[silver breach]

thats not void sling

[red path]

oh, I read it as sliding

[fair ibex]

nah i havent done war within yet

[late vessel]

Then you don't have sling yet

[lofty garden]

Then you shouldn't be up to anything you need to void sling into...

[silver breach]

oh right, you only have second dream

[lofty garden]

There's a tutorial during The War Within.

[fair ibex]

ahh ok np 🙂

i was just looking at some operator skills to spend on

oh i cant buy any anyways other than the starter one 🙁

[lofty garden]

Most of them aren't useful until after The War Within.

[fair ibex]

ok cool 😄

[silver breach]

yeah you only integrate operator gameplay with warframe gameplay much later on

right now, its just an afterthought

[fair ibex]

yeah cool , i like the focus pop ups that come and u have to rampaghe to earn more - its like arcade mode lol

[lofty garden]

Not that much later. Within the first 80 hrs or so.

[unreal ruin]

btw was curious, which should I focus on getting yareli or caliban prime?

1 part missing from both sets

[silver breach]

depends on who you like more

[unreal ruin]

uhh idk lol

basically I want one who can either buff teammates insanely

and if no teammates wipe out a room easily

[silver breach]

neither of them buff teammates directly

[idle fossil]

dont think either of them buffs. caliban debuffs enemies

[silver breach]

both Yareli and Caliban debuffs

[unreal ruin]

well whos more useful in general then

[idle fossil]

does Yareli? hmm. i havent looked into her much so thats why i would miss it

[rugged shore]

yooo hildryn is in my eta lineup

[unreal ruin]

I mean I'll get both ofc just which to get first

[rugged shore]

easy week

[idle fossil]

i want your luck

im scared to activate my TA and DA

[rugged shore]

well its the first time it happened

[unreal ruin]

genuinely gonna kms if I have to defeat the deimos guy 10 times

[silver breach]

go caliban i guess? much more straight forward to use. Plus I dont know many people who like riding Merulina without Yareli's Augment

so just go Caliban for ease of use

[unreal ruin]

alrighty

[silver breach]

there should be way easier ways to get neurodes

[unreal ruin]

is there a faster farm than the deimos 3 headed guy?

[silver breach]

endless missions should be good

[unreal ruin]

on which planet?

[silver breach]

deimos drops neurodes right?

[unreal ruin]

yeah I think so

the wiki lists the boss as the est farm on deimos

[keen lintel]

Circuit for Nekros parts

[keen lintel]

Oh. Then run earth missions. Easier for u

[unreal ruin]

apparently this is the best

[unreal ruin]

already have that guy, dont need him lol

[silver breach]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hkZSj4Zvtdg

[unreal ruin]

dont have that doggo

do have everything else so thank god

[silver breach]

Just do it

[lost geyser]

Lua good for everything lowkey

[unreal ruin]

dont have lua 😭

I am gonna start the stolen dreams quest so pretty early on

[lost geyser]

Iirc it’s tied to a quest

But yeah it’s also the best axi relic farm if u like the gamba

[unreal ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/koumei-gambling-awdangit-koumei-gambling-mrwarframeguy-gif-14566313064866036936

[orchid flint]

is the vehrvod district dead content atp?

[fair ibex]

is chroma the real deal? 🙂

[south girder]

Why do empyrean derelicts have rotations? and how are they accessed??

[lofty garden]

A is grineer, B is corpus

For A/B grineer, A is Points of Interest, B is the terminal on the abandoned derelict.

[fresh cairn]

what's the ostron armor set? is it worth buying?

[lofty garden]

Cosmetic

[fresh cairn]

ooh

what should I buy from the zaw dudew?

[lofty garden]

Whatever you need?

[fresh cairn]

idk what's good / not good

[lofty garden]

His stuff is evergreen. The rare items only pop up during Plague Star.

[fresh cairn]

so.. what should I get? or don't bother now..?

[lofty garden]

Zaws, only the Strikes provide Mastery.

It's up to you. You need all three parts to build a Zaw, but other than the one used for Profit-Taker, it's not really going to matter.

It's all shared Ostron standing, so you can ignore it for now.

[fresh cairn]

ok

i'd need a zaw for profit taker?

[rugged shore]

maybe if you are minmaxing, you can do profit taker just fine without a zaw

[umbral lark]

how does focus work? I have a vazarin lense on one of my frames but the madurai tektolyst bow. If i wanna get focus to upgrade the bow, should i swap the lense on my frame or something else?

[fresh cairn]

so what zaw should i get for profit taker?

[red path]

not absolutely need, but it makes it a lot easier

[fresh cairn]

so can anyone recommend a build?

[red path]

but you also need exodia contagion arcane

[rugged shore]

I'm too lazy to ever make a zaw so I'm just using a glaive and do fine anyways

[red path]

that's the whole point of using zaw, as it gives it blast damage and allow you to throw it like glaive, but a lot easier and faster

also, there is not many zaws so it's easier to get a riven

[foggy lintel]

can torid be one of the best weapons for lvl cap? And how please

[lost geyser]

torid incarnon the most basic weapon of all time

[red path]

if you buff it like crazy and armor strip enemies while priming them and grouping them

[oblique sequoia]

Is Magnetic good on the Coda Motovore?

[red path]

still it won't be best imo

[foggy lintel]

corrosive blast can do it ?, like which better ? Viral heat or corrosive blast?

[red path]

corrosive heat can do full armor strip, but it's usually done by some ability

or special weapon trait like latron incarnon

[rugged shore]

If you are trying to minmax then you want the strip to come from another source so you focus torid around damage instead of making it strip

[foggy lintel]

Like if i run wisp with terrify “any armour strip ability ” and viral heat can i hit lvl cap?

[red path]

priming too, you can add viral with nourish, or use a companion that put tons of status effects for gunCO including viral

[foggy lintel]

Ok i got it , in ur own opinion whats the best weapon melee anything can hit the lvl cap easily with huge amounts of range with wisp

someone said if u want dmg with range go for melees its one of the best weapons type in game dmg wise

[red path]

yes, something like nami solo incarnon with melee influense

[foggy lintel]

im sorry about several questions guys 🙏

[rugged shore]

Wisp can run some funny stuff with crepescular like glaives + eclipse

[foggy lintel]

yea right i tried nami solo with volt it was just damn… but wasnt good with wisp like volt i mean

[foggy lintel]

i tried some runs it was good fr

[red path]

nami solo can have 100% follow through, meaning it don't lose damage when hitting multiple enemies with single attack, it has some insane stats and high riven dispo

like, it only lose in range to bo incarnon and wukong exalted

imagine heavy attack where you do a round slash several times around you, with like 13 range and all hits deal full damage

[foggy lintel]

in ur opinion whats the best frame with nami solo

[civic bramble]

volt works well with it

[foggy lintel]

is it good in heavy attacks more than normal attacks?

[foggy lintel]

Sometimes volt can be easy mark for enemies

[red path]

probably valkyr, I never though about using frame to buff it

[civic bramble]

you got that right, not the tankiest

[red path]

I mean, you will use tennokai, how can you go to lvl cap without it

[civic bramble]

other than volt, i'd take kullervo if it wasn't already obvious

[south girder]

there's grineer in Venus??

[foggy lintel]

I thought about wisp but idk i cant choose one of roar or kullvero ability for red crits ? What do u think guys

[red path]

there is tennokai mod that activates it every 4 attacks

[civic bramble]

kullervo 100%

i'd say he's the best melee frame overall

[foggy lintel]

His ability not him

do u think it would be bettet than roar with wisp?

[civic bramble]

oh that i see, it'd still use wrathful advance

yes it would

[late vessel]

Since you're probably gonna be casting breach surge anyway probably roar

[civic bramble]

i don't play wisp so yeah not_rei might know better in this case

[foggy lintel]

i will try his opinion because wisp one of the best frames so i want to make it better

[civic bramble]

fair

[mortal jackal]

It says this in the New War campaign, but I really need to sleep, will I lose the rewards if I quit now?

[foggy lintel]

i thought about alot of weapons i cant decide actually nukor ,ocucor ,hate , torid , glaive prime, and alot

I thought about dual ichor and okina too

[floral osprey]

just gona add my 2 cents, roar is the same as faction damage and with wisp you can easily get it to be around 160% with a high strength build which i think is like what 3x what a fair number of faction damage mods, i forget if theres a cap on it but if your looking for min maxed stuff technically mirage's eclipse could be a better subsume assuming you dont need help getting crits and alrdy have a faction damage mod on because multiplicitive modding stuff

[heady copper]

around 160 is mad i had 120 with i think 400 strength

[civic bramble]

i like okina, and torid is a very strong weapon but it's till consider getting nukor first

[floral osprey]

i have a 599% ability strength wisp without any external buffs from companions of focus schools

[civic bramble]

make sure you get arcane ice storm with okina if you do end up getting the incarnon

[heady copper]

cannot imagine that being comfortable

[floral osprey]

its actually really chill

[foggy lintel]

Sometimes always thinking to get verglas and he can just do the whole thing and im just standing , but thats boring af

[heady copper]

there comes a point in firerate buffs where you spend more time reloading that shooting

[floral osprey]

• 5 red tau strength shards and then all the condionals n stuff get you the rest of the way

[fair ibex]

is the circuit to do with the paradox stuff?

[heady copper]

i had the same except the one tauforged i used for casting speed

[foggy lintel]

SO PEAK BRO🥇

[heady copper]

then dropped the build to around 260

[floral osprey]

like i think technically you can slap on powerdrift and augur secrets instead of smthn like flow or stretch but at the same time i like my build and 599% at cap is more then enough for anything i need

[heady copper]

i did run augur secret instead of flow

u get enough energy at base imo its just one cast of reservoirs and the occasional breach surge anyway

[floral osprey]

eh regardless i just like having the big energy pool to be able to use my 2 to invincibility gate, breach surge to cc and kill stuff, a PHAT roar, and some insane flowers

[fair ibex]

so many builds use auger secrets

[floral osprey]

its mostly cuz ability strength is very nice on a lot of frames and because of the augur mod set basically allowing you to "oh shit random shit go" your way to success if you need to

aka shield gating

[lofty garden]

hildryn does not approve

[floral osprey]

hildryn just likes strength because of the one arcane that applies your strength to your shields

[rugged shore]

Goated arcane ong

Rolled hildryn for eta so it got mopped

[sweet robin]

was looking at recruit chat, someone want to railjack for endo
for the rate of it isnt that kinda just, okayish?tried doing for 1 hour straight with a coordinated team, ended up 9000+ endo
not a lot while compare to Nightcap bounty

[lofty garden]

before or after deleting scrap?

[sweet robin]

after delete the scrap

9000+, i dont believe i counted the mission one

[lofty garden]

yeah, not great. then again, not 1999 tileset

[untold burrow]

how would i know what rotation ESO is on

[rugged shore]

iirc its AABC with you getting a reward every 2 waves

[untold burrow]

oh jesus

[raw finch]

What’s the best warframe duration arcane molt efficiency or arcane concentration?

[pure gulch]

AABC yeah

[untold burrow]

concentration if you're ability spamming

[agile tree]

is this good for torid?

[floral osprey]

not really tbh

[ancient pulsar]

whoa, you can find these in the wild?

[floral osprey]

you have a good negative stat but smthn along thelines of ideal stats your looking for are the crit stats and probably smthn like either damage, cold, or smthn like that with -zoom as a negative modifier

[agile tree]

ty

[pure gulch]

yeah if you have loot radar they show up like a chest etc would

and orokin eye tags em and all that

[ancient pulsar]

orokin eye?

[hot ermine]

If starting in 2026 can I reach some meaningful group content with others (find a clan etc) relatively quick? Or will it be a solo experience for the first many hundreds of hours?

[pure gulch]

parallax landing craft's air support ability

highlights this stuff

[lost geyser]

You’ll be able to get there fairly quick

And if u need help just ask ppl in the server lol

[hot ermine]

Im playing through the start right now and I really like the feel. Just didnt wanna get invested in a game where I need to pay +100 hours per 14 days to actually get into some meaningful/fun group play.

[lost geyser]

Nah u can do group play at any stage if u got friends

Or make some ig

Tad easy to get lost as a beginner tho I will say

[red path]

pretty sure you will be easily getting full squad when fighting bosses, and randomly in popular missions like helene on saturn, also once you unlock relic station you can play void fissures that almost always got a full squad

but all quests are done solo

[hot ermine]

I was more talking/thinking of the clan/guild aspect. Arent they a thing in Warframe?

Im a social creature 😄

[red path]

you can also find a clan pertty early in game, but you need to have at least some progress to get resources to build clan key

[lost geyser]

Yeah beginner friendly clans exist

[fair ibex]

i like to kill a boss first time solo, but if im farming one for frame parts i go group and pray some1 is there to just one shot 😄

[hot ermine]

Last thing. Are there any permanent choices in this game that cant be undone once picked? Think like Advanced class in Path of Exile 2 (before they made it respeccable).

Or is the game pretty forgiving in that sense?

[red path]

after my 1st try to solo jackal, i started to read wiki before challenging bosses

[fair ibex]

yeah a couple of them I have had a quick read on 🙂 jackel made me look at wikki as well lol

but i dont wanna do my first kills with some sweat that just one shots the boss

[red path]

pretty forgiving, there are some permanent choises you can't change, but so far they have no effect on gameplay whatsoever

[ancient pulsar]

weird, neither golden instinct or air support tags caches

[hot ermine]

What might they be?

[red path]

yes, there will be no point in have them hidden

[ancient pulsar]

it's in the description though

[fair ibex]

man can secrets mod just drop plz 🙁 should i be doing bounties and stuff in a group really for speed? of is it a bit of a leech, cos im not super fast at that tier yet

[red path]

there will be choise to use an important lore item, dispose of it, or give it to someone for keeping

and your choice only changes some cutscenes

[hot ermine]

Ahhh like that.

I was thinking more of choices that affect my characters looks, skills, abilities etc.

[red path]

there will be other important choices but none of them are permanent in that sense

[hot ermine]

Are there any official % on how many use the standalone launcher vs steam etc?

[red path]

like you will be presented to choose your main skill you unlock in one of the quest (out of 5), this is important for your gameplay, but while you have to choose carefully, you will have a way to unlock other 4 variants later, and switch between them at will

there is yearly statistics about weapon popularity, and even a json file you can download and process yourself, pretty sure there are sites out there who done just that

[lost geyser]

Think there’s just one, but it’s tied to the storyline so I won’t spoil

[hot ermine]

As long as it doesnt affect my warframes playability im fine.

[red path]

if you mean one that ||select appearance of your advisor||, you can buy other variants with plat later

[lost geyser]

Wait seriously

How much plat

[red path]

don't remember but you can check in personal quarters in helmet customization menu

[pure gulch]

the only permanent thing is ||choosing lotus' name|| iirc

[kind fern]

as a new player going thru the star chart for the first time, should i be speeding thru it as fast as possible, or should i be taking my time certain mission nodes when i get to them? i know this is one of those "play how you want games" but i just wanna make sure im not screwing myself over for later by speeding thru the star chart

[rugged shore]

you arent really screwing yourself over by just blasting through no

might end up hitting a difficulty wall faster but thats fine

ngl haul from EDA is a letdown, hoped for at least a red 🙁

[floral osprey]

i mean i dont really think theres any downside to either route, if you just blitze through to get to the next planet asap then all it means is you might have to go back and do some nodes you skiped over but the game makes you do most of the nodes that you "need" to do for story progression

[neon lantern]

did you see what shard bird3 is selling?

[floral osprey]

aside should have rerolled said, you might find your self getting into some slightly higher enemies a little quicker but like your not locked out of anything specifically

[rugged shore]

buying from bird right now

time for netracell and thats search pulses for the week

got tao green from ETA so cant be too mad i guess

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[rugged shore]

got the crimson red from netracell its all good

no tau 🙁

[floral osprey]

just keep doing em every week and soon youll have more shards of every color then you know what to do with them

[rugged shore]

frankly barely been using them anyways

besides stacking up on hildryn for funny shields and a bit of toxin on saryn they are just rotting in my inventory

[strong remnant]

I have them on my main few frames

Weapons > abilities

[keen lintel]

Ngl. I am coping at the prospects that Pablo one day adjusts it so Blues can be used in some way

Like buff the numbers at least

[floral osprey]

they can be used to make purple and green shards

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

[rugged shore]

can use blues to hit breakpoints for persistence now which is nice ig

[keen lintel]

I am a simple man. I want simple effects. Not the fancy ones from secondary

[floral osprey]

blues are actually prty good on frost as well if you dump your efficiency and then need to beef up your energy pool without flow

[keen lintel]

Used to be that one used to go in every frame with less than 250 armor but my greed to use red and yellow for other stuff has made me remove over time

[kind fern]

i have all the nodes unlocked, i meant as i go thru and do like every node

[floral osprey]

i think im confused but if you mean like you have every node unlocked that would normally be locked and your just going through and cleaning up whats left if theres a specific way to do it or if you should take your time because if so it probably doesnt matter to much, if you need to grind a node for stuff youll likely get aquanted with it and if its just a random node that youll never see again then you dont really need to know the ins and outs of it

[atomic creek]

I'm a MR 9 player, halfway through star chart and on chains of Harrow MQ (for reference) any tips on what I should my resource booster on farming wise?

[keen lintel]

Mining & Fishing

Can run some Saturn/Ceres void fissure missions too for Orokin cells & filling up your traces too

[kind fern]

my bad i said the same thing twice lmao, i meant i have every junction unlocked, going thru every node now. this answered my question tho thx!

[floral osprey]

all good it happens, best of luck

[fair ibex]

I was reading that nova doesnt need to be built for just slow or speed anymore? but all te builds that arent like 5+ forma and loads of primes are only for slow or speed, which one should i go for ?

[red holly]

years back nova was built around negative strength for her 4 to instead speed up enemies

you must be looking at some old builds

[fair ibex]

yeah

[undone spade]

Can anybody help me and my brother fight the exploiter orb on orb vallis?We’re trying to find diluted thermis to fight it but we’re unsure of where and how to go about defeating it.

[atomic creek]

Any world recommendations? I've got all junctions just half way through the nodes

[pure gulch]

need help with getting diluted thermia or something else?

[floral osprey]

tldr: just build some strength and duration, range is nice but can also be a dump stat for her

[undone spade]

Yeah diluted thermia

[floral osprey]

some builds are around using her 1 to kill stuff with the augment in which case you probably want range but for just about any other build where you want to keep as much of your 1 as possible you kinda dump range

[fair ibex]

yeah ok, a lot of the builds im seeing seem really high investment/difficult to get mods/loads of forma - is it gonna be tough to build as as newbie?

[pure gulch]

diluted thermia you get with getting coolant canisters from the raknoids that follow the exploiter orb in the free roam, then going to a fracture, and putting the canister(s) in and protecting it, 4 cans gets you a diluted thermia, or if you put in less, you'll have to do more fractures to "fill" the canister

even if you're not full squad you can get cans next to a fracture, and when you have 4 total, put them all in at the start so you only need to do one fracture

[forest crypt]

is yareli prime vaulted rn?

[pure gulch]

no she's available still

will be for a long while

[forest crypt]

what should i do to grind?

[pure gulch]

grind her relics?

[forest crypt]

i meant a specific map or anything

[red holly]

does melee CO work with finishers?

[floral osprey]

this is the build i use, but you can more than likely swap primed continuity for base, drop PSF entirely until you want to use it / get it, archon vitality can be as low level as you want as its being used entirely for its perk, and primed redirection can be swaped for base redirection if you want as well, idk how much forma that knocks off to begin with but should be a decent start (you could also just swap archon vitality for umbral and probably be fine as well

[south girder]

Play whichever missions have her relics

[forest crypt]

alright

[south girder]

Unless you already have them

In which case do basically anything

[floral osprey]

would probably look smthn like this if i had to guess which is probably atleast like 1-3 forma you might not need to use (ignore the nourish there i would reccomend using pillage when you get it as its just a nice option to have)

[spring idol]

So... I'm kinda lost on what to use endo on or if I should save it for when I start getting riven mods.

[floral osprey]

arcane ageis doesnt need to be maxed it can be a rank 0 copy and have the same effectiveness, arcane concentration is from the new content but you can also use molt efficieny if you dont have it

[red holly]

you don't use endo for riven rerolls, you use kuva

[floral osprey]

rivens dont actually take that much forma tbh, what you should prioritize doing is getting most of your primed mods to rank 8 (or any of your mods that have 10 ranks get them to rank 8) rank 10 is ideal but also takes between 30-40k endo just for those 2 nodes and for most stuff especially earlier on wont make to much of a difference

and then as you progress and get more endo you can slowly upgrade each mod to rank 10

[spring idol]

I'm coming back from a mini decade-long break, so I'm just used to throwing in a couple mill and couple thousand dupes to max a mod.

[floral osprey]

fair enough, overall though most of the endo needs are for primed mods and archon mods though so you dont really need to worry to much about rivens as there isnt really anything that needs rivens as rivens tend to just be things to help push stuff even farther then you would be able to take them normally or just for fun

and like all the content in the entire game can be completed without the use of rivens

[spring idol]

Thank you, good to know. I'm playing from the beginning again, I just got past the patient zero quest, so still more to explore and unlock.

I also couldn't fuse mods for some reason, it was going to force me to use endo o.o

Is there a reason to transmute anything if I can't fuse the old fashioned way?

[fair ibex]

thanks a lot for that screenie

[pure gulch]

can try to get harder to get mods but thats pseudo gambling

with transmuting that is

[spring idol]

So any dupes should probably just be turned to endo for all bronze, silver, and gold mods.

[red holly]

I always leave a few dupes

[calm wadi]

I want my excal build to be better but I don’t know what to do, if I change out the mods and look at the stats the stats go all red which I feel like is bad, I just want to do more damage

I also don’t have a primer but I don’t think it matters to much

[pure gulch]

yeah endo is probably your best option from dupes

[floral osprey]

np feel free to do whatever you want with it that untill you like it, my number 1 tip is that you dont have to use what other people do 1:1 (unless you want to) but use them more as guidelines

[fair ibex]

yeah im really trying to understand how to build as ive noticed this game has a lot more individuality about it than the normal "must play meta or else" games

which i LOVE - but im just kinda lost a lot tbh lol

[floral osprey]

yea, thats completely fine, i would highly reccomend getting access to the similacrum (via cephelon simaris) which can allow you to test some stuff out and get a rough feel for how stuff feels to use during a mission while still being able to change just about everything on demand

[fair ibex]

is that a rep thing from sima?

im working on that atm, cos there is a bunch of stuff from him i want

[pure gulch]

yeah 50k for simulacrum key iirc

[fair ibex]

i still got 1 long day untill my nova is cooked

[pallid talon]

a viral primer specifically will increase your damage fourfold, under ideal circumstances, doubling to tripling it in more realistic scenarios

excalibur's sword beams on his exalted blade also have multiplicative condition overload scaling, which will also increase your excalibur's damage immensely

so skipping out on priming is a big loss on damage

[fair ibex]

is a primer using like ur secondary or mele to put some status effects up b4 ur main nuke/dmg

[pallid talon]

yes

[chilly jungle]

i dont think you understand how much dmg you will get from a simple primer

[floral osprey]

i mean to be blunt, you dont need primers for anything other than if you want to get funny big numbers, but like you can completely go to level cap without the need of priming

[toxic shadow]

can someone explain why the grendel farm kinda sucks completely? the missions to get the blueprints were the most unfun thing ive experienced in this game where its like hmmm yes lets take the build crafting out of the build crafting game hmmm yes quality this truly challenges people but now ive done all that i have now got to grind up some fish so i can get one of the things i need and then some more so i can rank up the stuff to even begin to farm the other fish ive never seen before and then also hunt down some birds and rabbits when ive never seen the rabbits ever?? and the funny part is if im crafting the super duper cool prime version of him you dont have to do any of this because he's made entirely out of the mountains of junk i already have?

[chilly jungle]

idk about that

priming makes some weapons actually viable in steelpath

[floral osprey]

well considering ive done it im gona take it as its doable

[daring parrot]

you didnt even take a companion with you?

[floral osprey]

i mean sure it makes stuff viable but its not really needed

[floral osprey]

my companion does viral heat but so do a fair number of my weapons and its an arms race to kill faster than my companion half the time

[daring parrot]

thats a primer

[rugged shore]

weapons with multiplicative buffs from primers are a night and day difference

[floral osprey]

not if my weapons are already doing viral

[chilly jungle]

your weapons still priming viral 😭 ✌️

[floral osprey]

then by that deffinition every weapon with a status on it is a primer

[hot ermine]

Why did it put me in a group all of a sudden? Im still during my tutorial stuff

[pallid talon]

priming is pretty good

[lost yoke]

now that i have the pots in place

[floral osprey]

im diferencing them more along the lines of weapons whos entire purpose is to apply statuses for the sake of applying statuses so weapons that use stuff like condition or gundition overload can do big numbers. yes priming can make things do lots of damage but some stuff also is just entirelly viable without the need for priming to level cap and outside of doing absurd numbers to either bosses or level cap enemies you can go the entire game without ever needing to prime enemies to kill them

[lost yoke]

do eximus babau

[daring parrot]

it has your matchmaking set to public automatically. you are playing iwth other new players in the tutorial tho

[chilly jungle]

aslong as it can spread viral or those status effects fast enough to make co/gunco gain a good amount of dmg then yes 😭 ✌️

[rugged shore]

some weapons are absolutely strong enough to not need any kind of priming sure

but then you have weapons that go from shredding ETA mobs with a couple of bullets to needing an half a mag or more per mob

[hot ermine]

Ahh thanks

[floral osprey]

my companion is just a verglas with viral heat and then contagious bond to do negative numbers, its an arms race to kill enemies before my companion half the time

[chilly jungle]

good for you ig

[fair ibex]

i dont even have mods yet that give my companion element dmg:(

[floral osprey]

like my entire point is just priming isnt needed for like most if not the entire game unless your going for specific builds that utalize it to do that damage

is it good? absolutly but its also not a must have

[fair ibex]

his just a vaccum+loot tracker bot that vaporises and enemy sometimes lol

[rugged shore]

i think the entire point is utilizing builds that use primers

all it does is just give you more options to play around with that otherwise wouldnt be worth trying

[calm wadi]

Would appreciate it if somebody helped me with my excal build in players helping player section

[alpine sapphire]

Which companion is in good synergy with Grendel prime? Not Huras please, i don't need his invise, because I'm using Persistance and hunter adrenaline

[long moat]

More effects moreeeeee 🫣😅

[rugged shore]

i hope your weekly rewards are blue archon shards

[inner hedge]

Same

[untold burrow]

easiest way to get a (kuva) lich?

[neon lantern]

cassini in saturn

[leaden obsidian]

I hope the lich you forgot about figures iut how to steal every shard you get

[inner hedge]

She's staying on earth

[fair ibex]

is there a way to see what rotation bounties have without going to the planet?

[untold burrow]

warframe companion app idk

[rugged shore]

Warframe hub site has them

[fair ibex]

cool ty 🙂

[versed hound]

Is it me? Or are the last two mobs in the dark refractory in steel path too tough?

at the 2nd level

[fervent ibex]

is there a cap on daily affinity?

[untold burrow]

best element on a kuva sobek?

[rugged shore]

Depends on the frame you use it for

[rugged shore]

Like normal xp? No

There is a cap on daily focus and daily syndicate standing

[vale falcon]

Depends on what warframe you're pairing it with, cold for saryn (use modded tox to get viral and a toxic lash boost), for Uriel anything but heat, and cyte probably just tox and mod for viral

[untold burrow]

gauss main but i have options

[rugged shore]

Kuva sobek isnt worth your time if you aren't building for acid shells combos ngl

[untold burrow]

i have both of the unique mods

[vale falcon]

If you're not pairing it with one of those 3 warframes then tox is the case, but it is much worse without them

[rugged shore]

Having the mods is fine but you cant use them on any frame (like gauss)

[untold burrow]

??

[rugged shore]

What makes sobek stand out from alternatives is acid shells

Acid shells needs very specific synergies that only certain frames offer

[vale falcon]

This type of buff affects acid shells hits and that's why those 3 are extremely strong with sobek
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Extra_Hit

[untold burrow]

oh ok

[vale falcon]

Oraxia goes the same way as saryn for sobek, I just forget she exists sometimes

[untold burrow]

ig ill use it with Uriel

[untold burrow]

all THREE, forgot the Steel M mod

[rugged shore]

Only one that really matters is shells, do with the rest what you will ig

[untold burrow]

what if i did Toxic bonus for forced gas

[vale falcon]

Uriel's buff doesn't work like that, it's a separate instance of pure heat damage which can't gain elements

If you want a specific element for your bonus like gas, then cyte would be better for it

[fervent ibex]

what is oberon (prime) good at now? Is it good in the first place?
when i played years ago i kinda hated it, but i saw there was a rework, i need to decide if i should build it or get the bag (70-80 plat)

[keen lintel]

all rounder. good support. good nukes.

[fervent ibex]

mhhhhhhhhhhh

[vale falcon]

He's the definition of being just good at everything, but never amazing at it

[hollow cradle]

so anyone know if DE removing companion (sentinel) in Descendia is a bug or intended?

[vital saddle]

before i do the last insign challenge, do i have to wait for next week TDA to do the challenge. or can i just do it now, even though i completed it

[hollow cradle]

imo Oberon has always been good.

[hybrid spear]

Hey, what was the element that exploiter orb is weak to again?

[hollow cradle]

all elements, they rotate

[fair ibex]

have i messed up going into the Kuva fortress ? it says mission accsess restricted?

[hybrid spear]

Exploiter orb, not profit taker

[hollow cradle]

oops

[hollow cradle]

puncture and magnetic

[hybrid spear]

Thanx

[hollow cradle]

She is corpus

[blazing basin]

Is anyone experiencing progression issues in the Descendia recently? I get stuck on Floor 1 until someone disconnects.

[keen lintel]

r u the host of that squad?

[blazing basin]

Sometimes I am, sometimes I'm not.

I've experienced it on both ends.

[keen lintel]

ook. so if u r not hosting or going solo then u should try some other time (possible NAT Type restrictions and/or players in your region r not playing Descendia). if u r hosting then submit a bug report

[hybrid spear]

I know but is she still weak to radiation too or no?

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[hollow cradle]

As i have already said. No point in my providing another answer. You didnt read the first one.

[hybrid spear]

Oh

[wide vigil]

How much longer until okina incarnon is back in circuit rotation?

[hollow cradle]

SP incarnon rotation?

[wide vigil]

Yes

Mis spoke

[hollow cradle]

Okina is week 8. its week 4 atm

[wide vigil]

Damn it

[hollow cradle]

two choice: patience or disappointment lol

[true timber]

i'm not particularly sure i understand this kim convo. I looked at the flowchart and if you choose the nonviolence one you gain a lot of chemistry? any1 smarter than me able to explain what this conversation is actually about?

[vital saddle]

I did it, i got grandis XX. what a pain

[paper token]

Which one

[vital saddle]

left

[paper token]

Owkieieie

[bronze fossil]

So, I need a frankly ludicrous amount of Cubic Diodes within the next 24 hours. Anyone know the best farm for them?

[vital saddle]

railjacks on any of the corpus planets

[wide vigil]

The mr17 test is going to make me storm Canada to ceremonially execute the DE team

[bronze fossil]

pray for me, i need 34,655

[vital saddle]

i mean its like a few 30 runs....

LOL

[bronze fossil]

wait. only 30?

[vital saddle]

if you get all the materials in the map, its like, i don't remember as much, 1 - 2k diodes on the map

with a boosters its insanely faster

and drop booster

[wide vigil]

@bronze fossil a kamen rider fan?

In this economy?

[bronze fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/古加-gif-25888225

[bronze fossil]

define all the materials?

[vital saddle]

i cant really remember any off the top of my head

[wide vigil]

Uhh this is the only kamen rider pic I got

[bronze fossil]

there's a lot of gifs

[forest crypt]

what makes a nightmare mode mid-level?

[worthy comet]

What planet it's on

I know earth, venus, mars, mercury are early level

[forest crypt]

i really want armoured agility and i heard i get it in mid tier nightmare

[worthy comet]

That means you'll wanna target nightmare missions on Rotation B planets:

[forest crypt]

tyyyy

[tawny zenith]

Can fulmin recharge any faster

[late vessel]

Recharge spd is fixed only recharge delay is affected by reload spd

[trim spade]

why did my daily tribute not show up

[misty cosmos]

What are some good and not boring credit farms?

[glad tusk]

1999 legacyte harvest

Crack the safes

[late vessel]

Define boring all of em are repetitive to a degree

PT is probably the least boring tho

[misty cosmos]

Like, Not the Index

[late vessel]

PT or 99 safe

[misty cosmos]

PT?

[late vessel]

Profit Taker

[misty cosmos]

Oh yeah they give 1 mil

[late vessel]

Requires r5 fortuna and like good and specific loadout tho

125k boosterless

[misty cosmos]

That’s good enough for me

Thanks!

[solar halo]

99 crate is lower investment to get started doing it

[untold burrow]

whats the most expensive Lich ephemera?

[inner hedge]

What's a useless weapon in resurgence rn?

[lofty garden]

No incarnon, no sale usually

[chilly jungle]

does acid shell apply to all kills from any weapon/ability or nah

[silver breach]

Good morning

[gusty turtle]

Just sobek

There are other weapons in secondary and melee slots that have their own analogues for this mod

[tulip thunder]

im trying to farm an argon crystal out of the void but it seems my frames are struggling to do the 40 or higher missions. its been a long time so im pretty sure its just how i have them modded. any suggestions. im only mr 11 and still plenty of story to go

[lofty garden]

why would you do that?

hepit, crate breaker

[silver breach]

its most probably a modding issue

[glad tusk]

Yeah, just run around an easy void node

[tulip thunder]

whats that?

[mellow adder]

what shotguns are good?

[tulip thunder]

from what i was reading doesnt it have to be 40 or higher?

[silver breach]

kinda hard to answer that since alot of them are

[glad tusk]

Nope?

Resources drop on a region basis, nothing to do with levels

[mellow adder]

tigris ain't really any good lol

drakgoon? it good?

[silver breach]

idk about the base Drakgoon, but I certainly like the Kuva Variant

lemme try and list some good shotguns, im still in a mission rn

[glad tusk]

Kuva drakgoon is mid, i don't like the trigger

Kuva sobek? Very good

Kuva hek is funi

[silver breach]

preference

[glad tusk]

Tenet arca plasmor is technically a shotgun

Closer to a wall of plasma

[mellow adder]

I have a kuva Quartakk

[glad tusk]

That's a rifle

[mellow adder]

yeah

kuva stuff came up and that's my only kuva weapon

[glad tusk]

Kuva sobek or tent plasmor is probably the easiest to get up and running

[silver breach]

-Kuva Kohm
-Kuva Drakgoon
-Kuva Hek
-Kuva Sobek
-Coda Bassocyst
-Tenet Arca Plasmor
-Boar Prime
-Strun Prime
-Cedo Prime
-Felarx

I dont have all the shotguns, i just listed the ones I have/know are good

[glad tusk]

Note on Boar and Strun prime, you need the incarnon adapters for them

Also you might be offput by the felarx and its reload

[mellow adder]

eh. might just drop shotguns tbh. i have the Tigris prime, and fun as the burst is, idk if i like having my melee and primary both being short range

[glad tusk]

Just go fast

[mellow adder]

I like my Ash Prime.

and my Volt can ONLY go fast. his ability 1 and 4 are kinda useless

[silver breach]

Rauta is good too, synergizes with Melees since its shots give combo multiplier

[glad tusk]

Rauta is mostly for melees to build combo, its damage potential i find is ehh

[mellow adder]

OH! I GOT LUCKY LAST NIGHT
I have stalkers bow, Dread. is it good?

[silver breach]

youre missing out then, since Volt's 1 has an Augment that gives all his weapons Electric damage. Which synergizes with Melees since Melee Influence is like the strongest Melee Arcane

[silver breach]

yes

[glad tusk]

It's the most common drop, but its good, granted if you have the incarnon

[mellow adder]

xoris my beloved ❤️
already has elec built in

[silver breach]

I distinctly remember you hating on Glaives lol

[mellow adder]

i dont think i fully understand what incarnon's are

[mellow adder]

then I built the xoris and I've changed my mind

[silver breach]

glad to hear it ❤️

[glad tusk]

If you haven't finished angels of zariman, then don't worry

[mellow adder]

I have. im done all main story quests

[chilly jungle]

ok

[tulip thunder]

would doing a survival in the void give it to me?

[silver breach]

yeah youll eventually get argon crystals

[glad tusk]

Then lemme explain.

Incarnons are basically fancy void magic that gives the weapon extra stat buffs or extra perks. And the ability to transform into a new weapon after building up the charge via headshots (or other requirements)

Easiest incarnons to get are from the zariman, the phenmor, leatum, and innodem are the ones i recommend picking up first cause they're dirt cheap.

Steel path circuit in duviri also offer weekly rotating incarnon adapters for old weapons. Things like; lex, burston, braton, the stalker weapons, etc etc

[gusty turtle]

FYI its Detron for secondary and Jat Kittag for melee

The acid shells trio

[mellow adder]

so I can put resources into the Dread rn and later turn it into an incarnon?

[silver breach]

yeah

[glad tusk]

Yes

[silver breach]

Dread Incarnon allows the dread to fire large fire waves

[tulip thunder]

sweet thank you

[silver breach]

(and more stats that make it have like the highest crit chance out of any primary weapon)

[mellow adder]

I also have the Evensong. Jade's bow. it also good? also has insane slash dmg

[silver breach]

yeah also good

Dread is better once you have its Incarnon

but yeah Evensong is good

[glad tusk]

It has the unique gimmick of being able to make enemies deal 0 damage via puncture procs

[mellow adder]

force procs 7 stacks of puncture if i understand right.

[silver breach]

I need to farm ascension more

I need Jades weapons

[glad tusk]

Yeah, the cap is usually 5

[mellow adder]

how would I want to build dread or Evensong?

viral slash?
what other mods are best.

and what arcane(s) are good

[chilly jungle]

alr

[glad tusk]

Her scythe is fun if you have something to apply a million heat or slash procs

[chilly jungle]

i think viral heat is better rn

[glad tusk]

Probably just gas or blast

[mellow adder]

dread/evensong have really high base slash

[glad tusk]

You're not applying many status effects due to fire rate

[glad tusk]

Physical damage mods scale less than elemental mods

[chilly jungle]

you acting like you cant have all 3 😭

[silver breach]

typically since bows are slow firing and single target (usually) you tend to build them for high crit chance and high weakpoint damage

the elements are there just to bump up your damage, not specifically for the status effects

[glad tusk]

Actually, electric also works, it gives decent AOE and you don't need to combine elements

[mellow adder]

so what status effects do i want to put resources into on them?

[silver breach]

I like Blast, gives the bows AoE potential

electric works too

[glad tusk]

Electric or blast i suppose

[silver breach]

blast needs 2 slots, electric just one. Blast is better if you have Xata's Whisper subsumed into your frames

[glad tusk]

Electric has the benefit of dealing extra damage if you apply it on headshots

[silver breach]

yeah Electric procs are able to headshot

[mellow adder]

I do not have the Helminth segment yet 😭

[glad tusk]

I should tinker with bows more... My daikyu is gathering dust lmao

[silver breach]

I looove using Daikyu Prime with blast. it just nukes rooms lol

[keen grail]

i was about to say that! daikyu with blast or gas its fantastic!

[silver breach]

Also Ive been wanting sooo badly to farm Cinta. Its such an underrated bow, but I cant be bothered to go into Duviri LOL

[glad tusk]

Farming puzzles is pain

[silver breach]

yep

[glad tusk]

I just want the perigrimm damnit

[silver breach]

couldnt agree more

[keen grail]

say, what weapon melee should i use with gauss? li

[glad tusk]

Ffs one puzzle gave me 1 token

1 TOKEN

[glad tusk]

Probably a light attack spam weapon, though gauss doesn't really synergize with melees, outside of incarnons that offer sprint speed

[strong field]

Which one should I choose?

[silver breach]

imo right

[glad tusk]

Yeah, right, slash is bad

[silver breach]

actually replaces a mod

[keen grail]

ive use it with melee, it makes it punch faster lol

[strong field]

Is the Tigris good if im using inaros prime?

[glad tusk]

Okay, redline helps with attack speed. So definitely a light attack spam melee

[keen grail]

been using a Kogake just because i find funny to punch enemies real quick, but i want something that doesnt attach to his legs

[glad tusk]

Okinas

The scaldra dual scythes

[silver breach]

sadly Tigris is a relic of the past. its 2 shot magazine isnt giving it ANY favors

[glad tusk]

Can the tigris even use cannonade? Its a duplex trigger

[mellow adder]

so blast is the status effect I want.
so rime rounds and the fire one ( I forget it's name)

what other mods? other than the obvious serration, point strike, and vital sense

[keen grail]

you can make it work, yes, but you have to invest a bit

[keen grail]

use the long bow arcane for quick increase in damage

[glad tusk]

Crit delay is better than point strike

[mellow adder]

dont have that atm

[keen grail]

nope

[glad tusk]

Lol, lmao even

[keen grail]

i feel they wont fit the theme... specially when his deluxe comes out

[glad tusk]

Farm corrupted vaults

[glad tusk]

Tenet agendus then, sword and shield, paint in gundam colors

I love my bonk stick and board

[silver breach]

depends on the playstyle. If youre going the "headshot weakpoint" playstyle, then you'll probably want Primary Acuity, and Galvanized Shot, and Longbow Sharpshot

[glad tusk]

Buut, the scythes passive with gauss can hit the animation speed limit...

[keen grail]

if i wanted a "bonk stick" i would have chosen a bat, which i did concider... until i saw the only "bats" are the prova

[strong field]

Are these good?

[mellow adder]

headshots are so random I feel.
head hitboxes dont seem consistent half the time

[glad tusk]

The tenet agendus is considered a sword and shield, but its actually a mace

[keen grail]

oof! less magacine and less damage against grineer, thats awful...

[silver breach]

with the Incarnon, you can just play a regular body shot playstyle, since Dread Incarnon fires flame waves at enemies, so with that you probably want the normal Viral Heat setup with status chance i think

[glad tusk]

Akvasto is bad, and not sure if the tenet cycron has enough dispo to make it work

[keen grail]

i dislike that of the majority of sword and shields, only silva aegis and sigma octantis are swords and shields, the rest are maces and one that is an axe, the inconsistency annoys me a lot, specially silva aegis Prime

[mellow adder]

glav shot? that one isn't popping up in my codex

[glad tusk]

Galvanized mods are from arbitrations

Talk to the arbiters

[silver breach]

my bad, its named Galvanized Scope

[glad tusk]

Don't worry about standing

[silver breach]

not shot

[glad tusk]

Shot is pistol status chance lmoa

[silver breach]

heres a build for my Daikyu Prime

[mellow adder]

so it buffs my crit chance as long as I stay scoped in?

[silver breach]

yeah

[keen grail]

daikyu prime, best bow

[mellow adder]

should work with my Ash. can stay invis.
ima need better mods for my ash soon tho

[silver breach]

Daikyu Prime

casual 53 million Blast Procs

[glossy violet]

good god dude what are you feeding that bow

[mellow adder]

crack

[silver breach]

just simple Ivara Prowl Headshot multiplier BS lol

[glossy violet]

crepuscular somewhere in there?

[silver breach]

yes sir

[keen grail]

crepuscular is excelent on any invis warframe

specially Ivara who can stay invisible the longest

[silver breach]

74 million blast procs

[glossy violet]

planning a crepuscular + evade in harrow build once cyte is done baking

[keen grail]

you cooking!

[mellow adder]

what do I need to make my ash better?

i have pain threshold on there cause Xoris...

[silver breach]

btw as you can see from my Ivara screenshots. I have Condenm subsumed on to her. It really really really helps in facilitating Headshots

adding more damage is just overkill, so I went with QoL

[keen grail]

if you will keep his 1 (shuriken) use the augment, it gives armor reduction (with enough strenght it can armor strip), or you could replace it with other helminth abilities

[mellow adder]

I need to get the damn helminth segment
I just cannot be bothered to grind standing 😭

yeah sure I can get the points, but i know I'll hit a wall as soon as I need to rank up

[mellow adder]

ability 2 pairs into his 4, which pairs into his 3.

if I subsumed over anything it'd be his ability 1
the rest work together

[keen grail]

exactly, thats why im giving you that suggestion of either using it with the augment or replacing it

[glossy violet]

mind sparing the build? im working on the Vengabus for fun and max i've gotten is 20 million headshot damage with primary acuity

[mellow adder]

Ash's passive plays into slash. but it does not do enough i don't think

[livid swallow]

There should be bulk crafting

[keen grail]

remember to also mod his exalted, which counts as a dagger

[glad tusk]

Slash suffered since jade shadows update, enemies scaled harder into HP instead of armor

[mellow adder]

so ignore Ash's passive and Ability 1

[glad tusk]

Nah, still focus on it

[glad tusk]

His passive helps offset slash's indirect nerf

[silver breach]

for Ivara?

[glossy violet]

for the daikyu

[upbeat path]

Do multiple precept mods affect usage rate? If I have Arc Coil and Calculated Shot on my Diriga, does it reduce how fast Arc Coil is used? It seems slower than it should be.

[glossy violet]

but the ivara is fine too lol thank you

[silver breach]

Daikyu build

[mellow adder]

if I'm gonna use Dread on Ash should I get spectral serration?

[mellow adder]

(I assume a build like this would work on the Dread)

[silver breach]

for the Headshot playstyle specifically

you'd want different mods for the "regular" playstyle

[mellow adder]

this condemn ability. who's it from? you said it's kinda needed for the head shot stuff

[silver breach]

yes, its the strongest version for Serration specifically tailored for invis frames.

[silver breach]

Harrow

its his 1

[silver breach]

not needed per se. just helps

[mellow adder]

I have harrow prime. fun frame

[silver breach]

chains enemies down, stopping them from moving around, and exposes their heads

ez headshots

[silver breach]

yes, also order of mods affects it too. the first precept will always be taken into priority

do note that Vacum will just act as a passive loot gathering tool. so dont worry about that

[mellow adder]

primed shred... what's that do... and isn't that a login one?

[unborn plover]

i believe fire rate and punch through login

[lofty garden]

boosts fire rate and adds punch-through

[silver breach]

increases fire rate

[mellow adder]

blegh. alr. what's a regular bow build. not headshot dependant? cause ain't no way im making a headshot dependent build with what is available to me

[silver breach]

just regular mods you usually put on your rifle

[amber trench]

Longbow Sharpshot if you have it
Otherwise bows don't need to be heavily headshot dependent

[silver breach]

serration, multishot, crit chance, crit damage, elements

[glossy violet]

primary acuity my goat that's the first time i've heard of Spectral Serration holy hell

[spring idol]

Is joining a dojo still worth it? I feel like I still have a ton of catching up to do (on stolen dreams). Just feels like I'd be a burden to others.

[silver breach]

really? it was added last year with 1999

[lofty garden]

just make your own dojo. with blackjack

[whole siren]

How well does sicarus ricochet works with kings gambit

[mellow adder]

ima use this on Ash. so I could use spectral serration. right?

[silver breach]

yeah

[amber trench]

Imagine Serration but stronger and only works while invisible

I use it on my Cyte Neutralizer

[silver breach]

twice as strong serration

[whole siren]

But invisible

[glossy violet]

0.08% chance on dropping from dedicants and eradicators oh lord
anything for that invis headshot build. i will return here with 80m damage or nothing

[glad tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-big-boss-snake-invisible-duran-duran-gif-897325744993006672

[spring idol]

What quests unlock the blackjack?

[silver breach]

you can easily do WAAAY more damage than I do. Im just focusing on QoL lol

[glad tusk]

You mean the rumblejack? Or railjack

[amber trench]

Going to the casino

[rare reef]

Are Coda rotations personal or the same for everyone

[glossy violet]

lets go gambling! -damage riven. aw man!

[amber trench]

It drops pretty often actually

[mellow adder]

so.
spectral serration
point strike
vital sense

do I want to use a slash increasing mod? specifically cause I'm using ash?
viral heat otherwise?
Malignant Force, Primed Cryo Rounds, and Thermite rounds?

what else...

rifle elementalist and aptitude?

[silver breach]

my Longbow Sharp Shot isnt maxxed rank, I dont have Daikyu's Amalgam mod. I dont have a Damagine Subsume, I have built Ivara for her Artemis bow's range, so im losing out on strength for Prowl.

you can get waaaaaaay higher damage numbers than me

[glad tusk]

Same for everyone

[silver breach]

elemental damage mods will be better most of the time

gives more damage

[amber trench]

Prowl and dashwire

[rare reef]

Is this worth grabbing at 56% or is that just whatever?

[amber trench]

Great weapon good progenitor

Take it

[glad tusk]

Both in weapons and element bonus

[amber trench]

The wisp guy has a video on the coda pox

[chilly jungle]

yes

[silver breach]

context the highest elemental bonus you can get is 60% so 56% is amazing

[glad tusk]

56% is about as high as it gets before pity kicks in and bumps you to 60

[mellow adder]

spec serration
point strike
vital sense
prime cyro rounds + Malignant force
Thermite rounds
Rifle aptitude and elementalist

or Galv Aptitude?

[keen lintel]

anything over 53%

[glad tusk]

Galv aptitude, especially if you have a companion that primes enemies with status effects

[mellow adder]

i dont

[silver breach]

I just checked, Dread's incarnon shots are Multiplicative, so yeah that build will do amazingly

[mellow adder]

what arcane for the bow then?

[glad tusk]

Merciless? Easy activation

[keen lintel]

longbow sharpshot

[mellow adder]

IM NOT HEADSHOTTING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[silver breach]

you need headshots for that

[glad tusk]

Longshot and deadhead need headshots

[keen lintel]

thats how u use a bow in a horde shooter

[keen lintel]

then i guess pick merciless if u dont wanna go for headshots

[silver breach]

you can play the game in slightly different ways, Glitchy said they dont like headshotting

besides, Dread Incarnon is fine with body shots

[keen lintel]

and thats why i suggested an alternative

[glad tusk]

Hence my recommendation of merciless

[mellow adder]

I find it janky and inconsistent. even with Cyte's literal head hitbox highlighting I don't enjoy the struggle of hitting heads

spec serration
point strike
vital sense
prime cyro rounds + Malignant force
Thermite rounds
Rifle elementalist
Galv Aptitude

Primary Merciless

that's my farming/shopping list (after seeing what I have)

[silver breach]

dread also has this Augment. Note that the 175% crit damage is active from ANY type of invisibility. It doesnt have to be from the first part of the mod

so any invis frame loves this too

[mellow adder]

uhhh. what do I forgoe then?

[glad tusk]

Bit tricky to acquire

[mellow adder]

OH! and an exilus. what exilus

[silver breach]

probably Vigilante Supplies for chance to get higher crit tiers

[glad tusk]

Probably movement speed while aiming?

[mellow adder]

trading.... my go to when I decide I don't want to spend 100 hours trying to get a single mod

[keen lintel]

Mutation or proj speed

[glad tusk]

Its a nightwave augment, and one i don't think is available in the shop rn

[mellow adder]

3 people with different suggestions.
so exilus is kinda personal pref?

[mellow adder]

ah

[silver breach]

yes

[mellow adder]

SHIT.
it's insanely expensive on market (unseen dread)

[glad tusk]

Yeah pretty much, exilus don't offer damage benefits outside of vigilante's 5% chance of bumping crit tier

[silver breach]

Vigilante Supplies is just a better Ammo Mutation, since it has the same effect (slightly worse numbers) but has the chance to increase crit tiers

[silver breach]

you dont have to use it

Vital sense is fine

just wait for it to come up in nightwave

[mellow adder]

it looks really fun tho.

[glad tusk]

Probably next nightwave set?

[silver breach]

at the end of the day its just 120% (vital sense) vs 175%(unseen dread) just a small upgrade

[glad tusk]

Which, is probably coming alongside Shadowgrapher

[silver breach]

so you can live with not having it for now, just grab it later when its up

[mellow adder]

alr. ill hold off on that one. how many nightweave creds would it be?

[glossy violet]

nightwave feels like my 9-5 i clock in to do dailies for that sweet sweet Saturn 6 armor

[silver breach]

it should be exactly the same price as all the other Augments (which is 20)

[mellow adder]

so save my 30 lol

[silver breach]

im still working on Dread myself. Im just about to put a forma in to allow Galvanized Aptitude on.

Also note I dont have the Incarnon yet. So that 250% Crit chance you see in the stats, can get way higher lol

[glad tusk]

Nightwave credits don't transfer between sets

[mellow adder]

AAAAAAAAAH

[silver breach]

tbf we dont know when the set changes, Unseen Dread might show up this set for all we know

just keep a handful of creds ready

the shop resets weekly iirc

[mellow adder]

if it does show up someone ping tf out of me

thermite rounds. should be easy to farm?

10% drop chance on Pagos in the kuva fortress?

on rotation B. i don't understand rotations is all

[glossy violet]

example survival
one 5-minute block is one rotation
survi has AABC rotation
5 mins - A
10 mins - A
15 mins - B
20 mins - C
25 mins - A

[silver breach]

rotations go AABC

[versed hound]

whats the best operator amp?

is it really 547?

[mellow adder]

so spy missions. that's what pagos is. how does the rotation work on it?

[silver breach]

depends. most people do say 547, but it ultimately goes down to preference

[tender perch]

AABC if I remember correctly

[still nacelle]

A few weeks ago i buy quanta vandal for fun from baro, now i heard they gonna release a tenet version . . . Should i sell it to free space ?

[silver breach]

depends on how many of the vaults you open

[mellow adder]

elaborate please.

[glossy violet]

was Pagos spy? 1 datavault = 1 rotation, 1st datavault gives you Rotation A rewards

2nd dv = rot B

3rd dv = rot C

[mellow adder]

so make sure I get two vaults minimum and im good

[glossy violet]

yup

[mellow adder]

question. once I put a forma into a weapon I can change polarities.
can I change any slots polarity? or just the slots I've forma'd

[glossy violet]

forma changes any slot's polarity once

it consumes the forma

[silver breach]

you have to keep adding forma to add more polarities

[glossy violet]

your gun eated it

[mellow adder]

swaping polarites. that's what im on about

oh. does it just move the polarization to a different slot?

[silver breach]

oh yeah you can move polarities once you forma'd once

yeah

maan the Dread and Despair Incarnons are 3 weeks away

[glossy violet]

this is causing Dread and Despair

[dim crystal]

Anyone know why the textures on that slab changes like that? (happens everywhere but more visible on stationary textures )

Started noticing it then I was playing and it looked like there was like a warping effect everywhere

[mellow adder]

3 weeks away? wdym

[rich valley]

could be a way of optimizing, like how some surface suppose to have different texture from different angle.

[silver breach]

Circuit rotation

[mellow adder]

ah

[silver breach]

the incarnons are in a weekly rotation

[mellow adder]

I see

[silver breach]

we are currently in Week 4. The Incarnons for Dread, Despair and Hate are all in Week 7

3 weeks away

[mellow adder]

should I grind standing in the zariman then?

also. how should I build Ash's clones?

crit chance and dmg seem to have no influence

[silver breach]

for Incarnons? you dont need Zariman Standing for that. you just need to play Duviri Circuit for the Incarnon Adapters, then Duviri normal for the mats

[mellow adder]

ah ok. so I just gotta play at the right time.

[silver breach]

you can play Duviri/Isleweaver now to get the mats.

[dim crystal]

Makes sense since mobile still needs some optimization

it’s runs smoothly on high settings then randomly the frames drop

[silver breach]

so you get them on hand before the Circuit rotation

[mellow adder]

Voltaic strike. says it ONLY drops from tethra's doom
what/where is that?

[tender perch]

Menacing ass name

"Tethra's Doom..."

[silver breach]

I caved and finally bought it

yay

[gusty turtle]

She looks lovely

[mint dagger]

Anyone know how you enter this door on the Jupiter tile set?

[glossy violet]

looks SICK

[lofty garden]

you find the half dome and triangle panels. square should be next to you

[south girder]

Old operation
Baro sells it now

[coarse basin]

get it frfom baro

or 40p if ur weird

[pearl parcel]

good news nuke, i'm blendering again

[glossy violet]

exploiter orb is so much of a hassle i'm always tempted to say in recruit chat "does anyone want to join exp orb i dont care if you do no damage i just want someone to do the thermia canisters"

[south girder]

What
Are you doing the fight alone???

If it’s that much of a hassle then gather a team together

[glossy violet]

yeah 😔

[gusty turtle]

good news Sleepyboi, I'm drawing again

[pearl parcel]

oh nice, want to see what i've been up to?

[gusty turtle]

Uhh, sure, not sure if the server is fit for that though

[pearl parcel]

it says 2d12 damage in a 15 foot cone
i'm using 2d12 damage in a 15 foot cone

[south girder]

Fit for that how-

[pearl parcel]

its a fancy shotgun shell meant to deal massive damage in a scattershot

here's the heavy splintering slug, meant to hit a target then fan out aggressively

[pearl parcel]

dunno but i'm making an arcane shotgun

[tulip thunder]

how come the puppet frame is so low played is it just bad?

[south girder]

Koumei is just niche in yhe sense that she does better in endurance because she needs time to stack up buffs

[tulip thunder]

ah

i just finished the paradox omg that took forever

[zinc lotus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1330621619474927666/1465347282848448776/caption.gif

[glossy violet]

anyone have any tips for H-09 Apex? i'm getting one shot by the turret whack
does armor strip with gunblade work?

[zinc palm]

easily one of her best skins. no regrets

[wide vigil]

The grinner and corpus should probably stop building their data consoles with parazon compatible ports

[gusty turtle]

No we just stab it

It works on a 1999 computer

[glossy violet]

we stab and infect it

[serene thicket]

did rivens move from the mods list? I can't find the riven tab in my mod segment

[glossy violet]

its still there

[serene thicket]

I can't see it

[glossy violet]

huh!

[serene thicket]

Wait sorry I'm stupid, I had a filter on that was blocking rivens

[silver breach]

scruffy marine in the shrubs

Assassin for hire

Geisha inspired

Hunter

[ember grove]

hi do the glowing gold symbols mean i got them all right?

[silver breach]

Yes

Damn you got it all in the first try. (I don't count the one where you didn't have any mods on)

That's super lucky

[night hound]

Help how to kill steel path descendia juggernauts I'm special and am the only one in the world with this issue