gameplay-discussion

[keen lintel]

usually if a weapon has high status then viral heat weighting is a non issue. specially when its a secondary. AND even more so if its a lich weapon with heat proj

so keep it for later when its dispo is increased

[true wolf]

do the stats of the mod increase or is it something I would have to reroll later on when the dispo changes?

[keen lintel]

they increase on their own. no need to reroll

[true wolf]

(okay great cuz im kuva broke LMAO)

[keen lintel]

even low dispo rivens can be useful when modded right

but torxica doesnt need it

[true wolf]

yeah its pretty bonkers without it

[cloud sphinx]

Dante’s 1 is the only one that scans targets right? If I kill with other weapons, the enemies won’t be scanned?

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[cloud sphinx]

What does that mean

[keen lintel]

other wepon kills wont count

[daring parrot]

don't the necramechs look different in the china build bc of the skull on their design

[cloud sphinx]

Damn it

[sacred shard]

the book companion combo works too

if that gets the final blow

you'll know then you hear the scan ping

[cloud sphinx]

Eh, I’ll just use helios

[stoic cosmos]

Does anybody know which one of these is the better one, cuz idk

[keen lintel]

right but dont bother rolling any further

low dispo and those stats r ideal

[stoic cosmos]

Ty, I was thinking of going with the right one, but my mind wanted the left lol

[chilly jungle]

excalibur umbra prime 💔

wouldn't excalibur umbra prime be rarer then excalibur prime or nah

[coarse basin]

I mean... ideal would be like ms dmg to corpus dmg to grineer

[chilly jungle]

idk corpus are pretty weak

[coarse basin]

or infested or smth

depends on your arbitration/cascade cycle

[shy jackal]

Pc on this please? Whatvare the desired stats

[woeful zinc]

1 hr in duviri is fun they said

[keen lintel]

tier 5 award or even further?

[chilly jungle]

ngl

most to all enemies without armor are weak 😭

unless its a eximus

[coarse basin]

something something triple dips dot something

endurance/meta minmaxing stuff.

[chilly jungle]

nah fr tho armor carries some enemies 😭

[coarse basin]

but yeah ideal sobek riven is a bane

[chilly jungle]

like ive never heard anyone talk about needing to strip shields off a enemy 💔

[wanton sorrel]

Whats the best nuking frame or yall suggest?

[coarse basin]

lot of those

not really a best

[sudden tendon]

Garuda, sevagoth, equinox

[chilly jungle]

equinox or nezha ngl

[wanton sorrel]

k ty

[chilly jungle]

btw if you going to use equinox make sure you got a weapon that can get her maim dmg up fast

[willow bluff]

FYI, Normal Decendia is giving Amp Arcane Adaptor as final reward and Acrithis is selling Companion Weapon riven mod.
Both are normally acquired from Zariman standing and Simaris standing respectively.

[rugged shore]

I have not seen a single equinox since returning to play with the old peace

Some frames are really just that unpopular

[chilly jungle]

she really good for descendia

since they like to bumrush us with eximus for 0 reason

[rugged shore]

I dont doubt that equinox got merits just seems like nobody runs em

Instead you got 3 uriels in a squad each time lmao

[chilly jungle]

uriel mad overrated 😭

[rugged shore]

Have not played him idk

[chilly jungle]

everyone going to move on when the next frame drop

[rugged shore]

I dont invest in non prime frames

[woeful zinc]

i went from like tier 3 to tier 9

[rugged shore]

Maybe its just a me thing but I hate putting resources into frames that I know will get a prime in the future

[chilly jungle]

no point of geting a prime variant beside of how easy it is to get 😭

[rugged shore]

Minor stat buff or whatever

[torn shale]

Uriel is better then old ember world on fire

[rugged shore]

Definitely negligible most of the time it's a me thing

[rocky yew]

should i get burston or braton prime if im looking for a good rifle

[chilly jungle]

not even the good stats

[torn shale]

So they should just fix ember to old state

[rugged shore]

Is he? Old wof was giga busted

[rocky yew]

drip

[chilly jungle]

people hyping up his 4th like its going to nuke the whole map

might be good for eos ngl

[rugged shore]

Ember wof was a toggle you activated once then ran through an entire mission and it killed everything lol

[torn shale]

Uriel has healing that triggers archon intensify then archon vitality + 82% health from ability that deal heat also heat will be applied twice

Since it heals minions

[rocky yew]

so uh

[rugged shore]

Both of which require incarnons

So only if you have access to the incarnon adapters

[torn shale]

Uriel just stacks ability strenth with molt augment and arcane camisado

[rocky yew]

i do

[torn shale]

Oh then minions give energy

[rocky yew]

i do have access to that so like
Which one

[chilly jungle]

its the subsume tho so any frame could do the intensify part ✌️🤔

[torn shale]

No

[rocky yew]

but like
its either braton or burston

[torn shale]

The archon intesify is triggered by the minions healing

Not the wf

[woeful zinc]

burston

[torn shale]

90 percent sure

[chilly jungle]

bro remedium heals you and the minions

remedium lowkey top 3 survability subsumes 😭

[torn shale]

Wait lemme calculate all the ability strenth i can get on uriel rq

[chilly jungle]

remedium the goat ✌️🥹

[rugged shore]

Burston is stronger iirc but been a while since I used either

[woeful zinc]

burston incarnon nicer but braton sounds asmr

[rocky yew]

eh im looking for a contious one for sisters grinding bc the hek just falls flat
Ig ill get braton

its cheap anyways

[torn shale]

You can get 539% abilty strength on uriel with sling strenth

604 with full team with growing power

If i did the math correctly

1510 damage with demonium

Brimstone 9062 damage without 10 scale

90600 damage is with the multiplier cap so that would be 90500 every 0.5 seconds

Mb for the yap

Also fire deletes armor lol

[chilly jungle]

isn't there a subsume that makes all dot dmg instant then applys a multi over it

[torn shale]

Huh

[chilly jungle]

nvm

[torn shale]

Idk i wouldn't remember it lol

[chilly jungle]

thats only slash/toxin

but there is one that cause stacks to double

[torn shale]

Only mr 16 so i dont know much but im locking in

[willow bluff]

Sickening Pulse

[willow bluff]

Expedite Suffering

[torn shale]

W

[willow bluff]

Helminth exclusive abilities should get an augment

[verbal berry]

So I don't really know what to do about Toxic Tank besides not dying instantly after getting hit

Wukong can probably take the hit a few times plus he can cleanse status with Cloudwalker

Dunno how Mesa would take a hit

[solar bolt]

H-Huh lv. 500 right out the bat? What the hell is this?

[sacred shard]

elite version of archimedeas

it's meant to be hard

[rugged shore]

Tbf the difficulty comes from randomized loadouts and modifiers not the level

[half siren]

Hello there fellow Tenno! ^^

I am sorry to disturb you guys but I am new with warframe, been playing since last December and now this is my first trading activity. I have a problem which is a mod doesn't show up when I wanna trade it, while it appears in my mod menu in orbiter.

Is that a bug or maybe I have things that I still don't know?

[rugged shore]

Wait is it toxic tank again?

2 weeks in a row?

[verbal berry]

Toxic Tank is showing up a lot nowadays

[vale falcon]

Is the mod either equipped or the last copy of a companion mod?

As either of those will always deny the possibility of trading it

[verbal berry]

I've seen worse personal modifiers at least

[willow bluff]

Nyx

My Assimilate Nyx carries my entire squad using vazarin.

[half siren]

I do appreciate your response!

Well, I have 3 of them, it's Frost Jaw, but I don't see any of them at all when it comes to trading. And now my companion is just Helios. I don't think I am using the mod.

[vale falcon]

Strange, due to the number of dupes it wouldn't be that they're all equipped

[sacred shard]

during the trading window when selecting a mod go to bottom right, says "show equipped mods" or items

you can toggle it on and off

[half siren]

Yes, I'm stuck here. 😓

[quasi marsh]

How do you beat this weeks’ ETA survival solo?

[willow bluff]

Baro hasn't brought P DD after archgun arcanes arrived.

[half siren]

Thanks so much, I will try it soon. ^^

[sacred shard]

cap

[half siren]

It works!

Thank you again Sir! ^^

[slate zinc]

question. how does eclipse work? 1. does it apply to exalts? 2 can i cast both the damage reduction and the damage buff at the same time?

[quasi marsh]

How do u beat sporogenesis in solo ETA?

[vale falcon]

1. Yes
2. No

Extra note is in how it adds to the damage, if your only source of base damage is through one of Galvanized aptitude, Galvanized savvy, Galvanized shot, or Condition overload, then the damage bonus usually additive to that,

But if it is serration, hornet strike, point blank, an arcane or pressure point is the base damage source then it is a multiplier to them

[slate zinc]

this really helps, thannks

[quaint brook]

isnt eclipse a completely separate damage multiplier?

[slate zinc]

much appreciated

[vale falcon]

It's in the additional multipliers group, so works in the same way longbow sharpshot does

[quaint brook]

that means its still a complete separate damage multi

based on:

Damage bonus% = [(1 + Serration) × (1 + Longbow Sharpshot)] + Galvanized Aptitude

based on the syntax, Eclipse and longbow are multiplying base damage as a final damage mult, but gunco/condo are adding separately outside the order

[vale falcon]

That's why I said if the only source is one of the gunco, like in the case that you don't use serration but do use eclipse and Galv aptitude, then it is just adding together

[quaint brook]

ah

[chrome niche]

what are the empowered health orbs from Protea? it seems to give the same amout of health

[willow bluff]

100 health per orb
U didn't see hard enough

[quasi marsh]

How do u beat sporogenesis in solo ETA?

[willow bluff]

Nyx

[chrome niche]

oh shit u right I thought orbs normally give 100 🥷

[willow bluff]

Assimilate nyx

[quasi marsh]

Whaaaaaat

[willow bluff]

You've been spoiled

[chrome niche]

correct

[quasi marsh]

How?

[willow bluff]

Speak up all the problems you have with ETA this week

[quasi marsh]

Its just that

Idk how to deal with sporogenesis quickly in solo ETA

[willow bluff]

Toxin dmg right?

[quasi marsh]

Its the blue pods in survival

More pods, faster life supprt drain

[willow bluff]

Just checked

Honestly the easiest option I could think of is Uriel's 4

[wind orbit]

is the relentless tide assass. still the best stela farm even after the attenuation changes? or is mirr. def. better

[quasi marsh]

Relentless tide is the best

[wind orbit]

awesome ty

[quasi marsh]

So i need an inhuman amount of ability range?

[willow bluff]

Hildryn spamming her aegis gale is also what I could think of

[quasi marsh]

How much range do i need?

[rugged shore]

Hildryn 4 doesnt damage the life support spores

[wanton sorrel]

prime garuda,equinox,servagoth,guss or wukong?

[sacred shard]

235 range on hildryn is fine

as long as you have primed fulmination on balefire too

[quasi marsh]

Thats not what i meant

[quasi marsh]

And uriel?

[sacred shard]

dont know

[red holly]

is it true gas procs benefit twice from headshot multiplier?

[willow bluff]

Yes

[willow bluff]

Same

[willow bluff]

Well that's unfortunate

[rugged shore]

You can quit out of her 4 with operator and shoot it down that way which renders all non eximus units immobile so its still comfy

[willow bluff]

I did it!

My 2nd Verglas riven!

[shy jackal]

Is there any use to put green shards on hydroid?

The +2 corrosive stacks

[willow bluff]

Acolyte armor strip

[shy jackal]

Thanks man

[willow bluff]

Not worth it though

They will be fragile at one point

[sacred shard]

don't need it, hydroid already strips at 10 corrosive stacks

[shy jackal]

So strength shards are the way right?

[willow bluff]

Regular enemies get full strip
Enemies with status cap of 4 like acolytes get partial strip

[willow bluff]

I guess, but corrosive cap is definitely not recommended

[sacred shard]

Do casting speed, for spamming the first ability

[shy jackal]

What do you mean?

[willow bluff]

This

[sudden tendon]

more corrosive stacks dont do anything for hydroid

[willow bluff]

Except acolytes

[sudden tendon]

fair but they already die rly fast

[willow bluff]

Which is unnecessary yes

[shy jackal]

Nah i dont spam it much and i use my yellow ones for energy orb effectiveness so i never have energy problems

[jagged shard]

[sacred shard]

cap

[shy jackal]

Oh yeah makes sense thank you

[shy jackal]

Cap?

[willow bluff]

What's the ideal roll for verglas riven?

[pure gulch]

crit chance at least and probably the classic cd/ms/whatever

[red holly]

enough CC for verglas to get to at least 50% CC

[willow bluff]

Mine's CC CD FR no negative

[pure gulch]

if it gets it past 50% cc its fine unless you want tto roll more

[willow bluff]

It gets past 50% only when combined with other CC mod

The riven itself being capable to push it to 50 requires peak roll of CC another positive and a negative

The peak roll riven is what I'm keeping

[pure gulch]

yea I have a silly built verglas myself with cc/cd riven and it needs crit delay as well

[willow bluff]

The one I'm keeping reaches 50.5% CC without any other crit mod, but I'm also using crit delay which pushes it to 78.5%

[pure gulch]

ye thats fair, I haven't bothered rolling my riven too much yet cus I keep using smeeta for loot anyways

[willow bluff]

I've decided not to reroll this one anymore and sell it as it is.

[hybrid walrus]

Can you get more than 7 Shadows of the dead with Soul Punch ?

[pure gulch]

7 is the max summons you can get

and I would assume this is related to what you were asking as well

[hybrid walrus]

Yep thanks

[shy jackal]

Is 100% effectiveness on health orbs better than 50% effectiveness on energy orbs if i use equilibrium?

For energy

[sudden tendon]

boosting the amount health orbs doesnt give more energy for equilibrium iirc

[shy jackal]

Thank uou again bro

[sudden tendon]

np

[willow bluff]

u mean this?

[ionic crag]

Whos on xbox and cant login

[hallow cosmos]

Just restart ur game

Works for me

[hallow cosmos]

Lucky

[ionic crag]

Cant trued delted it redownloaded it

Bruuuu it is updated can straight up see new peace in the backround

I emailed em 4 times

[steep monolith]

So, ummm...do I do something to open up the wall and get the currency?

[lavish pebble]

Find brother and have them bomb the wall open.

[steep monolith]

As you wrote that, I completed it, thank you nonetheless.

[timber trout]

best plat farm for mid game?

[lofty garden]

The farm is always people.

[hidden whale]

Burger flipping is also good

[lofty garden]

Putting aside the credit card/paypal options, what I mean is look at what is on warframe.market, see what you can feasably obtain (corrupted mods, fish, prime junk, relics), then see what they're going for and price your existing stock accordingly.

[coarse basin]

mainly aya relics tbh

[lofty garden]

For a few more days, sure

[gusty turtle]

A great way to just get plat passively is by sticking to a syndicate and level it alongside the side one attached

You'll just buy augments and sell them on the market

Nice value that lets you usually afford any potatoes you want

And similar stuff

And it doesn't make you go play some dedicated mode to get in any sort of "efficient" way

[lofty garden]

Ehhh… I would not imply that trading is “passive”

[silver breach]

[gusty turtle]

Yeah, fair enough.

But it's probably the only way that doesn't require you to get out of your way to do anything specific for platinum

So you're free to do whatever you like

If someone is suffering from potato famine, it might be a great solution

[analog urchin]

wtf thats kinda insane

[willow bluff]

Yeah I'm not surprised by RNG anymore

This not the first time I got insane rivens with insane rolls

[lofty garden]

Just playing the game will net you all kinds of goodies that people will trade for.

[analog urchin]

im ngl i need to get more riven mods

[willow bluff]

This is my 0 rolls Dual Toxocyst riven

[analog urchin]

isnt the only way u get them is thru vitus essence?

[lofty garden]

I’m good

[analog urchin]

or wait no

[willow bluff]

Vitus gives archgun rivens

[analog urchin]

it was riven slivers huh

[silver breach]

Alot of my rivens are for more niche weapons I like using. I got two godroll twin grakata rivens

[willow bluff]

I used to think the same about Dual Toxocyst

[willow bluff]

I got this thing before its incarnon was even announced

[analog urchin]

wouldnt this be good for vinquibus???

[silver breach]

Yep dual tox, the most niche weaponn in the game lmao

[willow bluff]

Before incarnon
People called it "poor man's knell"

I held onto that riven

And now I'm using it everyday

[lofty garden]

Like my lato riven. That thing is a beast.

[willow bluff]

This and Dexterity

[willow bluff]

Fun part is DE specifically nerfed the interaction of Knell with Synth Charge keeping the buff infinitely active.

But toxocyst can still do that.

Toxocyst is also the weapon with the only available multiplicative fire rate buff in the entire game.

[alpine sapphire]

Has someone interesting idea? How Nidus prime can break down enemies with his own skills? Not only gun-platform or immortality. Maybe some funny synergy with helminth ability...

[willow bluff]

And then DE gives its incarnon above 1000m hitscan range, where normally they end up as 300m

[steep monolith]

Is Khal's floof before entering the crewship? And if so, is the location random? Also, does it show on the map?

[lofty garden]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Break_Narmer

Also has tips on where to find it.

[steep monolith]

Found it, thank you.

[snow onyx]

Can someone explain to me why when I have finished all the quests on Venus it does not show it as finished And when I have finished all the quests on earth it shows me

[lofty garden]

'cause you haven't.

Have you finshed The New War?

[bold brook]

Yea, last map opens after New War quest

[untold zephyr]

lmao this week's ETA was so easy

[snow onyx]

OK but the problem is that I did all the quests on Venus normally that we are an active quest it's the poster in blue and now I have none left that is displayed in blue so that's it I don't understand

[lofty garden]

Once you finish The New War, a new vendor opens up ||in Fortuna. His name is Nightcap, and he has missions that go down into the Deepmines||

[untold zephyr]

letting me use sevagoth on relentless tide was such a mistake

[snow onyx]

Yes

[lofty garden]

Ok, go see ||Nightcap in Fortuna and run one Deepmines bounty||

[snow onyx]

Perfect thank you

[hallow adder]

Who has played the new war already?

[shy jackal]

Best necralisk bounty other than brute force? (For aya)

[willow bluff]

First time I'm hearing something positive about this week's ETA.

[untold zephyr]

listen

shield gate sevagoth is great with the infinite spawning tide

I have endless energy, I kill stuff instantly, and I can do shitloads of damage to the fragmented bastard

[sullen sleet]

That's not eta... Thats EDA...

[untold zephyr]

I mistyped ye

[potent condor]

Ayo when did they change the Captain Vor fight??

[untold zephyr]

what did they change

[potent condor]

The entire fight lol

New arena and exclusive sumdali

[untold zephyr]

oh janus vor

secret boss modifier

[willow bluff]

That makes sense why u said positive about it LMAO!

[waxen pebble]

i need opinions, i have 3 warframe slots, i plan on making dante, i have 4 prime sets so in your guys opinions which 2 should i make?
options: mesa,lavos,titania,xaku

[lofty garden]

Titania, Xaku

[willow bluff]

So that means literally no one has said anything positive about this week's ETA so far.

[untold zephyr]

yeah TA sucks this week

[waxen pebble]

thanks! kinda wanted to make those 2 anyway so its nice to have that extra opinion

[untold zephyr]

DA doesn't thankfully

[lofty garden]

They changed Vor last June

[next quarry]

how would one aquire aya?

[lofty garden]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Aya

[untold zephyr]

like this

[lofty garden]

Mission rewards, or relic packs.

[willow bluff]

Missed opportunity to post triple aya roll

[empty scroll]

Mesa Prime for sure, lock her in. Maybe Xaku Prime, then Titania Prime unless you like Lavos more, but I personally think Titania is more useful in certain missions like capture and exterminate

Oh and spy

[rugged shore]

if you have the sets id just grind the plat for slots, 20p per slot is going to take you no time at all

all of them are pretty different from each other and worth your time

[next quarry]

so true

[waxen pebble]

in the last 2 days i've been making so much progress it feels like, started reaching hundreds of thousands to a million dmg for the first time, just unlocked steel path, got archon shards, etc. I'm finally warframing guys

[lavish locust]

How do you get the whole wisp blueprint, I got the chassis, neuroptics, and systems but not the whole blueprint

[gusty turtle]

Same boss

[lavish locust]

ah ive just been getting unlucky

[rugged shore]

hope you like him its not over lol

[lofty garden]

Try for 2-3hrs. If no blueprint drops, stop until reset.

[rugged shore]

thats me with the furax amalgam mod

just no luck, gave up and moved on

[gusty turtle]

That's me with tennokai mods

[rugged shore]

those are tradeable no?

you cant even buy the amalgam mods

[waxen pebble]

is that one good? i got like 2 of em while farming for the ripkas amalgam mod

[rugged shore]

45% (iirc its that number?) of secondary fire rate

[chilly jungle]

whats the best abilities for railjack?

[rugged shore]

so its nice for frames that arent gonna use melees if you would rather have that buff over move speed from praedos or okina

i want it for my hildryn

[oblique sequoia]

Bruh the Juggernauts in Steel Path Descendia this week were brutal...

[red holly]

thanks for the heads up

[rugged shore]

oh right descendia reset

done with archimedeas time for a fun event

[solar bolt]

Do Juggernauts even have a weakness? I swear they live up to their name too well.

[lofty garden]

Tummy, back.

The trick is finding a way to get them to stand still while you shoot their tummies.

[analog urchin]

so like

we can all agree the worst thing to exist in this game is arbitration shield drones

right👀

[rugged shore]

using abilities is terrible anyways we love arbitration drones here

expected worse with the juggernauts, they just exploded

[shy jackal]

So in necralisk bounties theres a mission where you have to destroy those tumors or whatever and sometimes they would instantly explode without having to wait for the enemies to spawn and kill them. Does anyone know why is that? Random or theres a cause to it

[chilly jungle]

nah

[red holly]

I have no issues with arbitration shield drones

[rugged shore]

i hate them they are anti warframe

[chilly jungle]

using any aoe weapon = all arbi drones dead 😭

[red holly]

just get arca plasmor or something

[chilly jungle]

nah

[red holly]

they are anti nuke

[rugged shore]

disabling the fun part out of the game is not fun

[chilly jungle]

aoe weapon

[rugged shore]

they are anti nuke and a sentence earlier just get a big aoe weapon

[shy jackal]

Kuva ogris with cyte

[rugged shore]

come on dude

[chilly jungle]

same with mirage 😭

[red holly]

aoe weapon as in you shoot in the general direction of the drone and it's destroyed

you might as well just use vectis or any precision rifle as long as you land a hit on it

[rugged shore]

having counterplay doesnt make it any more fun

[shy jackal]

Yeah theres a server dedicated to speed running arbi for kuva. I gotta get into that but idk whats the easiest or laziest frame for that strat lol

[rugged shore]

especially when it just disables certain warframes from playing

[chilly jungle]

cyte 09 is probably the best if you joining randoms

[red holly]

what warframes?

[shy jackal]

Nah the difference between random and a coordinated team is too big

So imma just watch some tuts

[rugged shore]

anyone with targeting abilities, like atlas for example

[shy jackal]

Probably wisp with max strength and arcane bellicose

[rugged shore]

atlas is literally unusable in arbitration so frustrating

[red holly]

I mean... it's just one ability

just pop the drone with a weapon

[rugged shore]

its his entire point, and it stands for many other warframes

i just dont see why you think disabling warframe abilities is fine when your solution is "go use big aoe weapon" which is just as oppresive

[red holly]

think of another way of making atlas work in arbitrations then

[chilly jungle]

aoe weapon 💔

[shy jackal]

Yeah bro understand some parts of the game require weapons only

To makw the mission "hard" or sum

[red holly]

arbitrations used to be the end game content, meant to be a challenge

[oblique sequoia]

Get a Sporelancer kitgun that makes dealing with those drones a lot easier

[shy jackal]

So if you running arbi with the goal to use mostly warframe abilities, please dont get in me lobbies

[red holly]

the thing is, he is against mechanics that make his playstyle of his chosing not working

[rugged shore]

is it any challenging to use a weapons platform?

[red holly]

you don't have to use a weapons platform, just use a weapon on atlas

[oblique sequoia]

Oh, I didn't know that. My bad

[shy jackal]

Whats the best farm to do with a mod chance booster? Excluding the endo arena farm

[gleaming salmon]

Chat, if a weapon got a riven disp buff does that mean i can reroll the one i already had to get better stats

[analog urchin]

i been using my hystrix prime to deal with them but they still annoying since i primarily use a melee build(valkyr prime)

[rugged shore]

sure but at that point just run a different frame

all im saying is i dont like game design that prevents entire kits from not working entirely, just unfun

[oblique sequoia]

Oohhh yeah. I can see how that would be annoying now

[chilly jungle]

void cascade ig

[shy jackal]

Ty

[strong field]

Yeah, this is getting ridiculous right now.

How are you supposed to end a Mission in a Railjack and return to the Orbiter, without aborting it and losing the loot? I'm sitting here like a clueless Idiot, because DE apparently doesn't it's necessary to explain the Mechanics at all.

[red holly]

go to dry docks in your clan

in navigation, then leave

navigation is nearby the pilot seat

[strong field]

But i can't return? the only option here is to abort the Mission

[red holly]

you can return to orbiter in dry docks

use the navigation that's nearby the pilot seat

[wide badge]

idk what it is but one of the infested has some kinda attack that just OHKO's me in the air, right through my Turbulence

[plain cliff]

How do I farm toroids. I need muscle mommy

[red holly]

get hildryn prime, also I think hildryn is in the circuit, she is at least in my circuit

[storm torrent]

She still needs the toroids to build

[red holly]

not hildryn prime

but the regular one, yes

even if you get the bps

[strong field]

I clicked on Dry Dock but there is nothing which brings me back to Dock. There is nothing clickable.

[red holly]

clicking dry dock doesn't bring you to dry dock?

[plain cliff]

Mate, I farmed for Gauss prime and that was hell... I have to go through it again?

Warframe really is a lifestyle, god damn

[red holly]

if you have the bps, you need the toroids to craft the parts

this game is full of grinding

everything is a grind

[storm torrent]

Primes are considerably easier to get than non primes with the exception of the current new frames

[plain cliff]

Fair...

[storm torrent]

Equinox was a particular pain in the ass for me that I haven’t experienced since

[lofty garden]

The worst grind in recent history was Nokko.

(for frames, at least)

[plain cliff]

How do you even...

[storm torrent]

Started it and I got burned out with the syndicate after like 5 runs

it just feels so bland and tedious

Don’t think I’ll be getting him anytime soon and I’ll probably continue buying archgun arcane adapters if I need them

[lofty garden]

The first one wasn't terrible, but maxing the syndicate... oof.

[storm torrent]

It’s annoying that resource boosters doesn’t affect the mushrooms

[lofty garden]

It's just annoying in general

So few mushrooms, so many required, and the missions where you have to find certain mushrooms are flooded with ones that are available in other missions.

[rugged shore]

man i like the mines the missions are fun and enemy density is very high

[storm torrent]

Does each bounty have a higher drop for specific mushroom?

[rugged shore]

nope not iirc, you just visit different locations so the mushrooms you pick up can change since they each grow in different zones of the map, but the bonus mushrooms from bounties are fully random

[storm torrent]

Ugh

[red holly]

thanks for remind me, time to go back to mushroomville

[rugged shore]

im almost at rank 5 got one last mushroom to finish

could pity it with the 1k fergolyte but might as well just run the bounties

[worthy comet]

For the undermine I think you're expected to spend a good chunk of fergolyte on the mushrooms you need

[rugged shore]

if you want to speed it up but id rather just use it to max out the arcanes

and i guess buy nokko or arbucep parts if you didnt get em

[worthy comet]

Yea I'm just saying if you rely on drops to get all the shrooms to rank up for nokko you'll probably burn out

[lofty garden]

I used drops and fergolyte, and was still pretty annoyed.

[red holly]

I have enough fergolyte to buy the mushrooms I need and get the last part of Nokko but I'll run the bounties a few times

[lofty garden]

It's just really, really boring.

[rugged shore]

i guess depends on how hard are you grinding the mines, i have just been doing it on and off since there is no daily limit or whatever

enjoyed it way more than pretty much every other syndicate ngl

[lofty garden]

It's the same activity, over and over, if you're trying to fill in one of the shrooms.

[rugged shore]

ill take it over any open world bounty

[lofty garden]

You don't have to do open world bounties.

Other than grinding for specific items from those bounties, you don't have to do them for standing.

[worthy comet]

The lesson here is you can hate anything if you force yourself to do it enough times

[gusty turtle]

Nightwave...

[worthy comet]

Take care of yourselves folks

[rugged shore]

the alternatives to bounties are definitely even less fun (for me)

all in all i feel like the mines just throw a crapton of enemies on you in a good way and i prefer the objectives it has to most other stuff

[lofty garden]

Deepmines, the only option you have is the bounties, and you can't convert shrooms you have an excess of to fergolyte to buy the ones the game isn't dropping for you.

[worthy comet]

Wait I'm p sure you can turn in extra shrooms

[rugged shore]

havent done the math but surely getting to rank 4 of mines is faster than maxing most other syndicates?

you can definitely turn shrooms over

[lofty garden]

Yeah, I just read that in the wiki. I'll check and see what the ratio is.

[rugged shore]

considering nothing substaintial is gated to rank 5 i really dont think the grind is that bad, but then again i find it just pretty fun to begin with

[chilly jungle]

why did no one tell me that when you do railjack tactical there are some abilities you can place down anywhere in the ship without needing to be there 😭

[worthy comet]

what do you mean

[chilly jungle]

you can place protea dispensary anywhere on railjack without needing to be there and there probably more abilities you can do that with like wisp motes or smth

[solar bolt]

Did you also know you can return to your railjack from anywhere simply by equipping the Omni?

[worthy comet]

oh yea i knew about that

[chilly jungle]

thats a upgrade

[chilly jungle]

what other abilities can do that ✌️🥹

[worthy comet]

well, anything that requires placing it down

[lofty garden]

No one knows how to use railjack teleport.

Hunted down ~10 liches,there was one person who used teleport.

[worthy comet]

i'd say probably lavos' 3 will probably linger on the ship after leaving?

[lofty garden]

No one has magic missles, either, but apparently I can use mine if I jump in a gunner seat, so that's ok.

[worthy comet]

fun fact, i found out recently you can abuse wisp's 2 to teleport from the railjack back to the mission

[chilly jungle]

ik

[worthy comet]

oh right you were here when we found that out

that was wild

[supple bear]

Hi, does anyone know if the operator arcane, Magus Accelerant would work well with Ember?

[chilly jungle]

didn't really matter when there is a upgrade that does that

i think

[worthy comet]

sorta? i believe you're talking about the one where you can teleport to other player crew members?

[chilly jungle]

there like 2 tps to railjack 😭

how do people even max out their railjack tho

playing those survivals are so boring

[lofty garden]

farming

[worthy comet]

that's the only way i'm afraid

[chilly jungle]

yall think i could get a sealth multiplier with silence or smth

[lofty garden]

you just farm sevagoth, nautilus, valkyr, nyx, oberon, ash, ambassador, shedu, etc

[coarse basin]

you can, but poe farming is better

[lofty garden]

that alone will max your intrinsics and net you so much scrap you will have tier III in no time

[chilly jungle]

railjack 💔

[coarse basin]

ohhh

uh idk

[worthy comet]

back to lu-yan we go

[chilly jungle]

what if i combine rest and rage with silence tho

yall think i could get that sealth multi on railjack

btw why dont the 1st and 2nd abilities of my railjack not work 😭

[lofty garden]

energy

[chilly jungle]

i had max energy

it cost 4 energy to use 😭

[lofty garden]

what ability?

[worthy comet]

electrical malfunction maybe? i know certain railjack damage can affect functionality

nvmind electricity disables tactical menu

didn't know some of this

[chilly jungle]

any of the defensive and offensive ability

[lofty garden]

there are battle and tactical abilities. battle are ones you can use as abilities similar to a warframe. tactical, you have to click on from the HUD

[chilly jungle]

bro its a battle one 😭

i can legit see the icon when im piloting

[lofty garden]

mine is fitted with munitions vortex, particle ram, and seeker volley. the only one of those three that I would fire in succession is seeker volley

[chilly jungle]

i legit tried using the same thing 😭

the 1 and 2 dont work at all

[lofty garden]

they work fine for me. try resetting controls to default, might be a control mapping issue

oh, yeah, if you are using a keyboard, then that is probably the problem. I think they broke it with an update

[chilly jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-ksi-laughing-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-6096976004461568132

atleast i got 8k hull and 2-4k shields ig

[lofty garden]

I am on controller, never had the issue

[chilly jungle]

ngl its kinda stupid how i upgrades my guns and hull one time and magically i can do any railjack mission 😭

[worthy comet]

yea that'll do it

[chilly jungle]

still i want to be able to use the 1st/2nd ability

[worthy comet]

maybe later i'll see if i can't use railjack abilities since i play on kbm too

[willow bluff]

I kinda got confused with munitions vortex usability so went with that electric EMP.
for the second one I use shatter burst to destroy nodes on ships without needing LoS
Third is obvious meta

Speaking of meta

[chilly jungle]

is there any railjack ability that can destroy captainships or whatever they where called

[willow bluff]

They clearly haven't followed their own rules thoroughly.

[willow bluff]

Nope
The EMP one can stop those crewships from moving though

[chilly jungle]

what it called

[willow bluff]

That'll make aiming a lot easier and u won't have to dump ur dmg on it to make it stop moving

I'm searching the name

[willow bluff]

Blackout Pulse

Bruh defensive mods only have 3 options

It's easy to pick

[rugged shore]

Is the meta the homing missiles for 3? Definitely feels like the meta

[chilly jungle]

probably

ngl there no point of upgrading your weapons when you can just spam 3 😭

[rugged shore]

I just need to get actual crewmates to swap the default ones

But I cba because its railjack

[chilly jungle]

just get one for call on crew

[rugged shore]

dont even have my command level high enough to get it

i think im like one off

[chilly jungle]

ok

only reason to play railjack tho 😭

beside the liches and ig some frames/weapons

[rugged shore]

holokeys

merchant had a 60% progenitor exec last reset

first time i ever farmed holokeys ngl

[chilly jungle]

ig

but aren't those weapons only melee

[rugged shore]

yeah only melees, they are exclusive to the vendor

[chilly jungle]

it would of been nice if holokeys did more things 😭

[rugged shore]

that would mean you playing more railjack

so maybe its all good

[chilly jungle]

ok anyway does warframe abilities like roar effect railjack dmg ✌️🤔

[unkempt echo]

Anyone to help with last sortie mission?

[rugged shore]

could help but its gonna be a bit im mid game

[unkempt echo]

Let me kno

[unkempt echo]

I gt time

[rugged shore]

sure, though probably just go in public and you will clear it, i wouldnt worry

[unkempt echo]

I been in public

No one joins

[rugged shore]

ill just abort and restart till you find a host i doubt it would take long? ill let you know when im ready

there is also #squad-recruitment

[unkempt echo]

Aiight bet ill try Tht way

I’ll let you kno if nt let me kno when u ready

I’m fairly new at this

[chilly jungle]

is there a point of finishing steelpath starchart or nah

[gusty turtle]

you get steel essence and a display per planet

[final depot]

each planet/zone on steel path gives essence and some other related goodies when finished but otherwise not really

[gusty turtle]

and you get mastery xp for each node on sp

[chilly jungle]

i forgot about that 😭

how much is it per planet

[gusty turtle]

its exactly the same as normal star chart

[willow bluff]

You also get ping from dead Teshin

[gusty turtle]

uhh not really dead

[chilly jungle]

bro i dont know the base one 😭

[gusty turtle]

27519xp

steel path has the same amount

[chilly jungle]

so its worth finish it

i dont want to do spy missions tho 😭

[rugged shore]

if you are super desparate for MR but you can probably just put it on the back burner and just level up frames and weapons

[pure gulch]

everything except interceptions are pretty easy solo

and maybe something like defection might be garbo alone

[gusty turtle]

Steel path incursion largely pick random nodes that you can complete out of order for extra rewards, they count as a proper node clear

So you wouldn't have to repeat through the whole process of star chart completion

[pure gulch]

incursions are also the only real taxiing you have for SP

[rugged shore]

Fissures are also independent of your sp progression so I really never had motivation to clear the star chart

[chilly jungle]

its not hard its those certain missions tho

[craggy crane]

Which one should i pick?

Ik crit better but i don't want heat

[vital saddle]

rights better

[craggy crane]

Even when heat could ruin the reaction?

[vital saddle]

whats the build

if not just keep rerolling

[craggy crane]

Viral ofc it's stahlta

[vital saddle]

ah you are using the toxic i see

[craggy crane]

Yup

[rugged shore]

Absolutely the right one

[craggy crane]

I picked the crit fk it blast could be good

Game ragebaiting

[rugged shore]

Use with flat crit chance buffers

[craggy crane]

If just the mag capacity was the neg💔

[craggy crane]

Yeah i will

[rugged shore]

Primary enervate when

[vital saddle]

never

lol

[tender perch]

Bruh I bought 2 Stahlta rivens and tried so hard to make it work

I was a tweaker for the Stahlta, but its just...okay at the end of the day.

[rugged shore]

feels really strong even without a riven so idk

[tender perch]

I wont say it isn't strong, but to me, it was always missing that "oomph" factor.

[rugged shore]

the oomph is called alt fire lol

[tender perch]

I was just about to get to that

The alt fire feels way too weak imo. At least in steel path. It kills but...not very quickly.

[vital saddle]

FINALLY, the apex tank is dead

[tender perch]

Elaborate

[vital saddle]

i finally got to kill the hardmode of that boss fight

its not fun i'll tell you that

[tender perch]

Oh

No, its not

[vital saddle]

solo

[tender perch]

I'd never fight that thing solo

[vital saddle]

well at least its done the insign

[tender perch]

Why did you even do it? Special reward for it or something?

[rugged shore]

are you priming?

it is a multi co weapon it hits like a truck with both fire modes

[vital saddle]

insign challenges from the demon (roathe)

[rugged shore]

also you gotta use vile acceleration if you dont have a fire rate buffer otherwise id agree the fire rate is terrible

[vital saddle]

that was horrible

never again, not even for the accolades

[tender perch]

I am. Again, I'm not saying it can't kill, its just really slow and wont be very useful in massive hoards which is where I usually play.

Also, the gun feels like you need to build a frame around it to make it work perfectly. If you're not using Harrow or Wisp, you're losing out on damage or QoL just to make the thing feel usable.

[storm torrent]

In before the Lex Incarnon pretty much blitzes through the fight

[vital saddle]

i was running furis with the healing for inaros

[rugged shore]

all you need is a primer which you can use a diriga if you want to never think about it, and slow is crazy ngl it chunks sp eximus heavies

[tender perch]

I shouldn't need to prime enemies every time I wanna kill them, especially trash units

[vital saddle]

i'll keep that in mind though

[rugged shore]

it obviously kills trash without priming, i mean heavy eximus

if you want to onetap them, which it can

[void briar]

Have u tried….that one event weapon i forgot what it was called

[storm torrent]

Yeah it’s waves can hit multiple infested points at once so it takes a chunk off it

[vital saddle]

vastilok?

[void briar]

No

[pure gulch]

have something like latron incarnon with the punc strip evo or vastilok for armor strip

[void briar]

Basmu? I think

[tender perch]

I tried an Acuity build, but then that just ruins the alt fire for anyone caught in the AOE cause you ruined your multi-shot

[rugged shore]

eximus is dead in one blast

[vital saddle]

basmu? nahh

[rugged shore]

nah dont use acuity

[tender perch]

Yeah I immediately figured that out

[vital saddle]

i wanted to get sampotes for that, but i forgor to grab it from duv

[tender perch]

But I think the gun just isn't for me. It really needs a frame like Harrow to shine, which is a frame I just don't like to play at all.

[storm torrent]

The go to would be vastilok for armour strip

[rugged shore]

my harrow is not using abilities at all

even without priming to kill level 100-200 it has no issues so idk what you are doing wrong with it ngl

[vital saddle]

yeah i just viral stacked the tank with torid, ran off, grabed a rocket and roar and one shot

[tender perch]

I main Caliban, who can really make any weapon feel good cause he turns enemies into wet tissue paper.

But the gun just needs too many recourses to function. It works, but I just dont like the amount of stuff you have to put in to make it comfy

[rugged shore]

define function? it needs nothing to deal with anything below archimedeas level

and in archimedeas if you have a primer it will destroy those too

[vital saddle]

i swear the first round of that apex fight is the worst

[storm torrent]

I’ll also add you can cheese it with purely shieldgate and the anti grav mods whilst aim gliding that’s how I did all the warframe specific challenges for it

[vital saddle]

2nd fight, the easiest but tedious

[stray oasis]

Every time I need something from Circuit I'm always at the wrong end of the rewards table

[storm torrent]

Stack enough shieldgating mods and it can’t kill you

[pure gulch]

yeah if your build can survive phase 1 you should be able to live

[storm torrent]

no abilities needed

[tender perch]

What I look for in a weapon is something that can clear mobs and boss while feeling rewarding to use.

When I maxed my Stahlta build out, it still felt slow in clearing waves of enemies. It killed them, definitely, but it felt clunky to do so.

[rugged shore]

i feel like you are just not modding it well?

it very very easily kills mobs

[tender perch]

You're missing what I'm saying

Im not saying its not killing mobs, I'm just saying it doesn't feel good.

[vital saddle]

thats what i was thinking on doing, but said nah. im not bulding for aegis gating

just went with inaros and thats that

[storm torrent]

Fair enough

[tender perch]

I feel like this is why most people play inaros. Just easy survivability

[rugged shore]

i guess good is subjective? but needing one alt fire to delete an eximus and normal fire has innate punch through and shreds mobs plenty

inaros deserves his time to shine thank god for persistence lol

[vital saddle]

omg, dont get me started on vors hard mode

i tried everything and went. nope inaros

[tender perch]

I think its just too single target for me. Even the alt fire isn't that large and you're gonna be spamming it a lot to get a good enough kpm

[storm torrent]

Haven’t touched his hard mode fight, how do you start it and what do you get?

[rugged shore]

as far as kpm nothing competes with large aoes or chain beams ill give you that, but by that metric 95% of weapons are just absolutely terrible

[vital saddle]

you need to find the glyphs and once you do that there is a little terminal before his fight

once you have the right glyphs in place, hard mode will activate

and YES he is difficult

nullifier lighting bolts

[tender perch]

That fight is probably way easier now with Persistence

[storm torrent]

Sounds like I’ll have to build shieldgating again

[tender perch]

You can't shield gate in that fight cause you need abilities to shield gate.

[vital saddle]

yeah

[storm torrent]

The humble aegis and shield recharge delay reduction mod

[tender perch]

Whats aegis again? Hildryn 4?

[vital saddle]

thats kinda how it goes

[rugged shore]

arcane aegis

[tender perch]

Oh

[vital saddle]

yeah that fight was abnoxious

[tender perch]

I mean yeah but that rng heavy. And hard Vor is definitely one shotting your shields

[vital saddle]

doing isigns made me realize how annoying the hard mode variants are

[storm torrent]

This and aegis pretty much covers shieldgating without abilities

[vital saddle]

don't forget the other mod as well to make it better as well

[storm torrent]

Not too rng heavy it procs very consistently

it’s why it’s a necessity in shieldgate builds

[tender perch]

Yeah, its pretty common when I use it. Maybe even more with recharge delay mods

[vital saddle]

btw i did try assimlate nyx

nope

[storm torrent]

Yeah I didn’t bother with that for the apex tank either

[tender perch]

I stopped using recharge delay mods on my Caliban cause his 1 gives shields back and I need the mod slots

[vital saddle]

like vors annoying

[tender perch]

I'll prolly use someone else for the fight. Dps frame maybe

[vital saddle]

but apex is just a horrible time

[tender perch]

I need something else to do anyway. I've been doing nothing but level cap runs

[vital saddle]

go grab the insign bundle from roath

and have fun

[cosmic kindle]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Arcane_Camisado

Regarding loki what does in melee range mean to activate arcane camisado?(can I have higher melee range to enhance damage decoy or somthing)

Is this the wrong chat to ask this/can I ask developers in discord?

[vital saddle]

i dont thnk it effects loki at all

[pearl quest]

I have no "login with steam" button and I'm not sure how to merge my account

[chilly jungle]

i got 250-300k kuva should i get into rivens 😭

[vital saddle]

yes

[oak solar]

im aborting mission and losing my fish, am i doing something wrong?

[lofty garden]

Hmm... I didn't think you could abort and keep fish?

You can just teleport to the door for the various open worlds and go back to the hub.

For "merging", that's gone. Now we have "linking". If you're on PC, not sure how you don't have an account on the website?

You would add Steam via the warframe.com website.

[oak solar]

i have to wait at extraction for people

[lofty garden]

Which open world?

[oak solar]

deimos

[lofty garden]

Oh, you can "Leave Squad" from the upper left menu under your name.

When you do that, you host migrate to your own open world instance.

[oak solar]

i figured. thank yoiu

[lofty garden]

Then you can leave via the door.

If I'm fishing, I usually just play solo. Saves the headaches.

[oak solar]

now im running into the issue of not being able to go to cambion

[chilly jungle]

alr

[plain cliff]

Best way to grind toroids?

[minor ledge]

Nekros and luck

[lofty garden]

Weird that it's putting you in Steel Path, but if you want to play Steel Path, load into the Necralisk with SP set, then go out the doors.

[pearl quest]

where does Amir appear after starting a relationship with him?

I heard they show up in the backroom but I can't find him

[rugged shore]

yoo got taoforged red from archon

just in time as im thinking about investing 5 for status chance

[vital saddle]

you wanna know whats boring af on the insigns? Decendia into 30 minute arbitration

[jolly spade]

hello framers long time since ive been here

[worthy comet]

Heyo

[jolly spade]

ello

[tame violet]

baby tenno here i just got a sevagoth and holy hell nuking is so fun

[neon lantern]

glaive users chuckle in the background

[formal jasper]

vega drops from enemies at the spaceport, calda from the enrichment labs, sola from temple of profit. its a small chance so looting frames and max "gta stars" for highest spawnrates help

[tame violet]

oh yeah i have the xoris i heard its pretty good

[neon lantern]

coda glaive and glaive prime be good nukes too

[worthy comet]

Falcor ftw

[rugged shore]

I use falcor over xoris for look alone ngl

[neon lantern]

think theres a video about the glaives

[rugged shore]

But they are very similiar in power level

[neon lantern]

whispers even though glaive prime and coda glaive are top tier

[jolly spade]

hell ya man

enjoy the dopamine overload

[worthy comet]

The coda pathocyst maggots are affected by mods right?

[neon lantern]

i............dont know

[worthy comet]

Wonder if they get boosted by eclipse

If so I got a diabolical idea

[neon lantern]

why not roar?

[worthy comet]

I'm gonna use mirage

[neon lantern]

ah, one sec let me look something up

Maggots are affected by: Melee Base Dmg, External Dmg buffs, faction dmg, base dmg bonus

[worthy comet]

https://tenor.com/view/meu-gif-27420939

Ok

[vital saddle]

god 30 minute arbritation is boring as hell

[vital saddle]

if i am doing the capit XIV challenge, do i have to wait for weekly?

[neon lantern]

yes sadly, if you already did your archon hunt

[vital saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/rizzler-slow-turn-what-did-you-just-say-to-me-rizzler-real-name-gif-9817110533738289471

oh

[neon lantern]

i sent a ticket asking if this was intentional, no answer yet lol

[pearl quest]

how do I set my base back to the orbiter from the backrooms

*backroom

[south girder]

Go into the hollvania map and click on the backgroom node

That’s it

[pearl quest]

still not back in my orbiter?

[south girder]

?

[pearl quest]

worked it out

had to go into the star map I didn't realise it

[cunning moon]

is there a build for damage lvl cap amps?

[chilly jungle]

temple of profit and use a lootframe

why are most of the nezha skins lowkey mid 😭

[vital willow]

Think DE will ever rework archwing?
i get its not popular. and most people just use it as a "move fast" method
but...its never gonna change in the state its in now

heck, the archwing abilities...are pretty bad scale wise
in cetus, orb vallis, or deimos they so underpowered as to be a joke (unlike necramech)

and in arch wing missions...the missions really need a revamp, but the abilities still so jank and iffy

[chilly jungle]

there like 1 archwing with good abilities tho

[lofty garden]

They are only two archwings worth using, amesha and itzal

[vital willow]

ITzal is useful for tis speed...but its abilities......

[chilly jungle]

the pull good for eidolon and the invisiblity is invisiblity ig

[lofty garden]

amesha is how you do thermia fractures the easy way

[heavy drift]

Is doing the 15-25 bounty an ok way of getting scintillant or do I have to do the vault ones

[vital willow]

arch line is....rather....dated
Penumbra is ok to hide and afk
Cosmic Crush feels like it should be good, but that dmg.....and how it works in non archwing missions. makes it unreliable

and fighter escort. this should be hilariously fun
summon 8 drones, they fly around and blow up when killed
but....how often do you see them actually die....they tend to just float around shooting for 1 dmg until duration expires. not even an option to manually detonate them

[lofty garden]

I found it easier to just run iso vault and look around

[chilly jungle]

whats the point of doing that beside amalgam mods

[vital willow]

and when they do die to AoE. its 2500 dmg....thats really not much

[lofty garden]

diluted thermia for exploiter

[chilly jungle]

ive never touch any thermia so idk what you mean 😭

[rare reef]

Which incarnon do we pick this week if we have none?

[hidden whale]

furis latron are both good

[rugged shore]

They already did and it still sucks

Sadly leaving stuff like this to rot is the norm when it comes to warframe so id keep my hopes down

[vital willow]

true but that was before rebecca got promoted wasnt it

[white badger]

does anyone know where to refund shit on this game

[vital willow]

if u bought resources with platinum. no refunds
but u can pick a fight with kickbot, or go shoot Nef Anyo

[rugged shore]

Ever since Rebecca got in charge did any of the old abandoned content get any real push?

[vital willow]

u got a point
she did give us vacuum but...yeah old has kinda been forgotten

[sullen bobcat]

I remember feeling so hyped getting Archeing Launchers for Open World, it lasted for a week before I realised I was locking myself out of my good abilities for the trash ones.

Not to mention, the instant explosion missiles.

Why were they so afraid to just let Archeings feel good?

[vital willow]

to be fair...they still havent fixed Secound Dream after retconning the dialogue there with the Silver Grove and Old Peace....

[sullen bobcat]

The biggest one was focus actually, one of the more important parts. Then it was pets. These got the biggest glow ups and probably because they were WAY more integrated to the game than the abandoned content

[rugged shore]

Sure i suppose, though for every rework like this a dozen of things are left to rot, they will never catch up

[vital willow]

true...and theres also new stuff that needs updates as well

[rugged shore]

On one hand I get it because new stuff is always more exciting than fixes and reworks

But its just sad to see the state of some things

[vital willow]

hell even the new Tauron strikes are already in need of a usability update
the long cutscene where enemies free to move and u cant see what u aiming at till the last half secound before it fires.
screws over the beam and the bow

and i still want more koumei augments and skins..

so..yeah...i guess what i want is just...more...

[lofty garden]

they balance updates with new additions

[sullen bobcat]

Sure but that's not really Her fault. The old team just slapped on stufft that they thought would be cool, but barely considered how it would fit alongside time taken to update totally new gamemods would take away from Warframe.

Seriously, the amount of time spent with Railjack, we could have gotten 5 different reworks for Warframe that were struggling at the time, it's infuriating

[worthy comet]

Weren't content islands an issue from Steve's time? Why we blaming rebb

[rugged shore]

Im not blaming Reb just setting my expectations straight that I'm not expecting many meaningful reworks of old content

[sullen bobcat]

Oh, and even if some people disagree. The Coda's were an objective upgrade in their implementation and gameplay loop.

Getting them yo spawn during regular missions already fulfills the Nemesis System role exponentially better than what the Liches and Sisters did.

[rugged shore]

Its just a really disadvantagous game of catch up now

[rugged shore]

I agree which is all the more why I'm frustrated that the other liches were not updated to have the same system as coda

This is like new syndicates being much more comfortable to level up

[lofty garden]

regular liches take about 90min

[sullen bobcat]

There's probably SO MUCH spaghetti code there.

[rugged shore]

The hardest cetus/fortuna bounty gives you 5k standing compared to hex or deimos or cavia it sucks

[sullen bobcat]

Squashing the Requiem Relics into the Coda system is probably going to be as massive of a change as it's gonna get

[sullen bobcat]

90 of the most boring minutes you can imagine yeah

[rugged shore]

Same goes for old game modes like excavation for the love of GOD make it have shield gating or something it needs help

Circuit excavation makes me wanna alt f4 sometimes

[vital willow]

dont get me wrong, DE's in a much better spot now. with the regular updates

than they were before.......with the rare update and....railjack launch

but it does feel like DE's got a stacking pile of stuff that needs updates. or could use updates

add to that, the new content is really turning into content islands more and more

Like Sanctum Anatomica, amazing tilesets...its a pitty theres little variety in enemies. imagine if we had sorties here. or could fight corpus, infested, grineer in these tilesets

1999, again amazing tilesets. and has 2 unique enemy factions, but u can never see these factions in other tilesets.....or enemies in these tilesets

not saying we need new contnet, but they could get alot out of mixing some of these together
like using Duviri as a place where worlds collide

[lofty garden]

no more boring than coda, and less glitchy

[worthy comet]

Last time I did sp circuit the excavators seemed to be holding up a lot better than last time, thought they got buffed

Maybe it was just me

[rugged shore]

Just saw a clip today of someone playing circuit and it died in 0.00000001 second and he got 1 (1) cryotic

[worthy comet]

They were probably at level cap

And you know DE does not care about level cap

[rugged shore]

In circuit its not a big ask, just scale the unit or give it gating

You get to the thousands really fast

Not that its the only game mode people cant stand anyways the line is long

[white badger]

i bought pakcs

[vital willow]

ah....
ok uh...Alad V is over there, tied to the wall
take this Jat Kittag and take a few swings between his legs

[sullen bobcat]

Sure but at least those can just be a quick implement. Transfer them into some other gamemode, and bam problem solved.

It's less of an issue than having to implement and integrate a wholenither gamemode into regular gameplay and all the mess that cones with.

[vital willow]

aye, my point is
if they need content easy to make to hold us over, while they focus on some of these older, longer work issues
we'd be fine with that

[rugged shore]

Thats why I'm mostly still talking about the little things, giving excavator shield gating or some scaling ehp is hotfix tier update

[wide vigil]

What frame has the best death gate me personally I’d have to go with Valkyr

[worthy comet]

Man the furax wraith bp is never up when I am online

[rugged shore]

Got the furax but i can't get amalgam body count

[worthy comet]

We have the opposite issues it seems

Also I'm one mod away from completing the mecha set

Then I can put my chesa nuke idea to the test

[rugged shore]

Im working on my own pet nuke atm just stuck rolling the paris riven

[amber trench]

I mean
Hounds nuke without a Paris if you want to do that

[rugged shore]

Its funnier with though

[worthy comet]

What's the Paris for

[amber trench]

Statstick for kubrow

[rugged shore]

Basically claws have mods to inherit crit chance and status chance from primary

[worthy comet]

Ohhh that

[rugged shore]

Paris incarnon has a lot of that

[white badger]

?

how can i refund shit in this game

[vital willow]

you cant 🙁

best u can do is take out some anger on the in game mobs.

we've all mad a bad purchase at one point

....like buying orokin cells for me.....

[lofty garden]

Can open a ticket with customer support.

[worthy comet]

Is Paris the best option for this or are there others

[rugged shore]

The best by a metric ton

[worthy comet]

Wowee

[amber trench]

Paris is the best but I think one of the shotgun Incarnons does decent too

[worthy comet]

I do have strun incarnon

[rugged shore]

Is there a shotgun close to that much stats?

[tiny plaza]

I wonder what Descendia looks like this week, haven't gotten to it yet...

[lofty garden]

worst they can do is say no. support.warframe.com, upper right

[rugged shore]

The exilus mod + 4th evolution make Paris stupid

[worthy comet]

Strun has like 400 status chance in incarnon iirc

With the right evo

[amber trench]

I think either boar or strun Incarnon can get close
But they also don't have the 220% crit chance to back it up, at least last time I checked

[rugged shore]

The combo of crit and status is just stupid yeah

[worthy comet]

I also have a CD and multishot riven for the strun too

[vital willow]

wave 6 of steel path has a surprise for ya

it was kinda funy. we were steam rolling till this wave, at which point our 3 major DPS all died
and me, the koumei, had to finish it solo....using a velocitus

[amber trench]

Imma be real
I don't like Crux on this
I unironically prefer Dexterity since that just has passive benefit for melees

Crux theoretically has the best statstick power but it's a pain to keep up, especially for a bow with no MS

[rugged shore]

Tbh Its just for the funny status number

But if I agree that its not really "good" since I won't be actually using the Paris to deal damage

[amber trench]

I have mine modded for viral heat since I don't have high voltage and the empty slot is shivering contagion/amalgam Serration

Heck, I think I took off thermite Rounds to run both lol

Pure viral with that much SC is like four procs

[tiny plaza]

Does SP Descendia differ from Normal? Like the little like "Fireball Eximus" or "Gigantism" thing.

I haven't attempted SP Descendia yet. Usually bring Titania with a friend who brings various other frames. Xaku if loot room. or whoever else he feels like bringing.

[rugged shore]

For me this js 100% a stat stick to minmax the pet

[rugged shore]

Same modifiers iirc

[vital willow]

same waves
but steel path, higher dmg, more hp. etc

in normal, u can ignore the threat in this wave. (gas attacks all over)
in steel path. it melts ya if u dont do waht obiwan does best

[white badger]

they restricted access to my account despite me offering identification

[vital willow]

o.0

[white badger]

this goes against consumer laws in EU

[vital willow]

restricted access....did u try to force a refund via credit card?
or do something bad in game

[white badger]

i lost access to the email the 2fa is linked to. and they wont let me change my email

keep in mind i played like 7 years ago

[vital willow]

ahhhhh

[white badger]

and filled their questionaire with questions that dont make sense for someone that hasnt played for 7 years

[vital willow]

ok for that, support ticket https://support.warframe.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[white badger]

and the AI bot (i presume) didnt even refer to the fact that i offered my id 3 times

[lofty garden]

you created a new account to ask about the existing account?

[tiny plaza]

This is fair. and Good to know. But what should I prepare for?

[vital willow]

go to technical or networking

[white badger]

i did do the ticket

its AI

[lofty garden]

make a new account, then submit a ticket to ask about your older account that you lost access to 2fa on

[vital willow]

1. have a gun that does ALOT of dmg. that u can aim for weakspots with.
   dont rely on frame ability for dmg or aoe spam

2. the high ground is your friend. when the floor is death, stay high up and shoot down

the wave is literally 8 Demolisher Juggernauts. all with Gas procs that they spam all over the ground. wiping people out fast.

it can't climb, so high ground wins.

[white badger]

i can login to this account

on the site at least

so how do they think i created a ticket

if the account isnt mine

[lofty garden]

can’t just disable 2fa from there?

"they" are AI, according to you

[white badger]

actually says enable

but when i go in game it says to go to email

[white badger]

the support ticket yes

[rugged shore]

Wait so was i not supposed to nuke with abilities lmao

[vital willow]

unless your ability has the ability to target weakspots.

[rugged shore]

Juggernauts get onetapped by hildryn

[vital willow]

ah

[white badger]

so is my only option charge back on card now then

[vital willow]

yeah...hildryn will work

[rugged shore]

Just brute force everything with more damage lol

[lofty garden]

https://support.warframe.com/hc/en-us/articles/360028551411-Warframe-Two-Factor-Authentication-FAQ

[vital willow]

we have my koumei
2 Uriels(rip) and a excalibur umra
those 3 didnt stand a chance....then again i dont think they realized what was killing them

i was trying to do a decree for wall latch so i at least could see what was happening

[lofty garden]

Tells you to contact them to change the e-mail linked to your 2FA.

[white badger]

i did that

[rugged shore]

The game just goes full circle

Starts too easy so you play it braindead

Difficulty picks up and you engage with the enemies and hazards

You get too strong game goes back to braindead

[white badger]

got met by AI slop after a week of waiting

[lofty garden]

Ok, try again, or you can do what I suggested, open a new account to ask about an older account. That should bypass the "AI" you thnk they are using.

[white badger]

i did that too

im gonna let it go

[vital willow]

yep.
and then Koumei keeps you from playing braindead cause it keeps making u do stupid challenges that forces you to think cause "how am i gonna kill 48 while wall latching"
....i found a solution for that...
Aegrit...4 of these going off in 1 boom

[white badger]

im gonna play ffxiv cause their support actually has some level of professionalism and has people working on their support team

[lofty garden]

if you have spent money, or have considerable time invested in, the old account, then I'd try again and see if they can escalate it.

[white badger]

u spent money this time i was expeting to go back

thats why im asking to how to get refund

[vital willow]

dont get your hopes up for that. they got their own issues
like people who played FFXIV before it died, then it came back with realm reborn.....
but if you were in the old game...you get all these cute account issues..they refuse to respond about xD

[rugged shore]

Do you have the receipts?
You said you lost access to the mail

[white badger]

well i already got the account back it took 2 days

took 7 days here to get a questionaire of dumb questions

[white badger]

no because they go to the email lmao

[rugged shore]

Like every online purchase?

How did you prove your identity

[white badger]

on ffxiv? i sent them my id

[rugged shore]

I mean for warframe, how are they supposed to know you are the owner of the account if you

Don't have any receipts
Don't have access to the mail
Don't remember security questions

[white badger]

there are no security questions

steam link didnt even exist when i played and they still asked that

its a bad system

[white badger]

also for the fifth time

i offered them my id which my email is my name and birth year

they just dont care enough obv

[white badger]

i do have access to the account and im playing in the same city as i always played 🙂

its a horrible service system tbh

AI slop all it is

fun game but the company policy makes me want to puke

[lofty garden]

Far as I'm aware, they're not using AI. Complaining here won't change anyting.

[white badger]

i just asked if they give refunds like blizzard does

[rugged shore]

How would they even refund you if you couldn't find receipts in the first place lol

[white badger]

those receipts go to the email the account is linked to :sigh:

this is against EU consumer law. wish i payed with paypal would be easier

[lofty garden]

ok, complain to your local EU representative.

[vital willow]

EU consumer law doesnt really protect your account you havent signed into for 8 years with no way to identify your the owner of it

at best, you have right to be forgotten, which still wouldnt work without verifiable identification which seems to be the issue here

if its a recent purchase, u can recoup via bank credit card

[lofty garden]

In the USA, I'd say complain via the Better Business Bureau. There should be an equivalent in the EU, or just ask your local electred official for assistance in obtaining a refund.

[vital willow]

but old purchases, EU consume law has limits for how far back you can recoup

[white badger]

its a recent purchase

i bought the packs right before i got 2fa walled

[sinful trout]

[white badger]

so 1 week at most

[lofty garden]

That should move you up the chain if you think you are not getting a human looking at your account.

[vital willow]

so like..u made a purchase....on an account u cant get into?

that seems....a bit sus

to purchase something, u need to sign in first. the 2FA is typically in that logic, but before the purchase

[white badger]

2fa is only in game

[vital willow]

o.0 not for me

[white badger]

i can login in site without 2fa

[wanton sorrel]

is there a way to trad for the rhino parts since i dont have enought o craft them?

[vital willow]

if u can login the site, why can't you submit a support ticket?

[white badger]

so yea its against consumer law

[white badger]

i did submit one

[vital willow]

ok, so u just gotta wait for their reply

[lofty garden]

cannot trade for vanilla frame blueprints

[vital willow]

Consumer law in EU doesnt mean u get instant reply.

[white badger]

they already closed the ticket

[vital willow]

did u see why they closed it