gameplay-discussion

[silver breach]

Yeah most melees are basically act the same way, with the exception of glaives and gun blades.

[pearl parcel]

am i a bad person if i general shepherd the teammate that wont stop following me and getting me spotted in hd2

[silver breach]

Whats hd2

[pearl parcel]

helldivers

[peak river]

yes, repent now by becoming a hermit that lives entirely off the grid

[silver breach]

I don't think that makes you a bad person.

[pearl parcel]

i was trying to sneak and this idiot kept getting me killed by sprinting in right next to me, and the team supported this bullshit, so at evac i general shepherded them

[silver breach]

What does "general shepherded" mean

Like you herded them to their deaths?

[pearl parcel]

shot them in the back and took all the samples

[silver breach]

Oh....

[pearl parcel]

did you never play modern warfare 2?

[silver breach]

I did but just the story mode

[pearl parcel]

yes, that's in the story mode

[silver breach]

Or am I thinking of another game

Idk this is the first time I'm hearing this term

[silver breach]

Anyways, I think shooting someone in the bad does convey "bad person" behavior

[pearl parcel]

tbf they continually wasted all my setup and equipment call ins by getting me killed in the middle of sneaking in by going out of their way to take a different route that runs right past me

[peak river]

we're still in a warframe channel btw

[pearl parcel]

ik

[peak river]

aight, just wanted to make sure

[silver breach]

Warframe Warframe Warframe

[peak river]

that's more like it

[stray monolith]

That kinda sucks,gauntlets can be sick as hell,like imagine it could build up a uppercut move to disarm a enemy temporarily,or get a more powerful jab in when a enemy tries going for a wide arc attack,rewarding reaction time with a stagger on the enemy

Oh sorry,I was focused on typing

[storm torrent]

Outside of Duviri Warframe Combat is not that detailed

even duviri you can just get away with spamming

[silver breach]

Yeah that would be cool, but when you're able to just kill enemies in 1 shot, or that there's like 50 dudes shooting at you, I don't think being able to do those maneuvers would be all too useful

[stray monolith]

I wish their was more layers to the combat,cuz how layered the movement system is makes it so fun

[silver breach]

Like we have finisher attacks in the game, but people rarely use them

[wintry prairie]

I had an insane idea for Temple now that I have unlocked Them. Give us a value slider to set their bpm to better suit what we may be listening to.

Temple is 78 bpm, giving a value slider range from 50-100 would allow for most songs if you consider half and quarter time, effective range of 50-200!

[peak river]

They

[silver breach]

The game needs to be in a slower pace for that to be viable gameplay wise

[wintry prairie]

ty

[storm torrent]

Warframe is a horde looter shooter, they can’t really implement such a detailed combat system along side its fast paced movement because it would just slow it down

[stray monolith]

You tremble in fear when the temple plays to the tempo of rush-e

[stray monolith]

Fair point,I wouldn’t ever want the game to feel slow

[wintry prairie]

wait rush e is 78 or 156?

[stray monolith]

It’s only 156?

[wintry prairie]

regardless the playlist is now Rush E and Better than You by Metallica

[peak river]

I believe that Soulframe is designed to be a slower paced game, maybe check that out

[stray monolith]

Okay

[silver breach]

While there are builds that have setup for their gameplay, it's less focused on input, and more how you modded your stuff and understanding of the game

[stray monolith]

Pivoting to a different conversation,imagine a update where in hollavania ,you could have tank missions,your own tank,man it like the rail jack and some hardcore tank battles,it would be so cool

[neat lava]

Why does the trading always have to depend on other people being there

[tawny zenith]

Is it worth putting a reactor in my hydroid
I dont have access to any augments yet tho

[neat lava]

If you have hydroid prime maybe
If you are only talking about regular hydroid nah

[silver breach]

Do you mean like in the literal sense? Like they need to be in the dojo to trade?

[neat lava]

Yeah

[tawny zenith]

ok so just get this hydroid to 30 and just sell him after?

[neat lava]

Like in the same room trading at the same time

It would be cool if this game had something similar to The Grand Exchange in Runescape

[dire mesa]

What does Garudas 4th ability even do 😭

[frosty flint]

Cause de doesn’t care to make it better

Or more automated

[neat lava]

But we do

[frosty flint]

but they dont

[neat lava]

Thought that they cared about what we want 💔

[frosty flint]

Fuh no

[pallid zinc]

bro i js got a new moniter T_T my pants are wet from these graphics

[frosty flint]

I mean sometimes but usually it’s just adding something gamebreaking or filling our mouth with ok content every 3-4 months so we don’t complain about it

[stray monolith]

You basically hit a bunch enemies in a area and make surviving ones vulnerable to slashing damage

[neat lava]

Careful or one of us might break into your residence for your hardware with these ridiculous computer hardware prices 👺

JK

[tawny zenith]

Was it a terrible idea for me to had pledged to Suda Im halfway thru rank 4..
Idk what I was doing before but im looking at this now and I don't own any of these warframes that have augments in Suda
Should I just keep grinding this and get all the augments and stuff

[inner hedge]

Uhhh

[tawny zenith]

This account is all kinds of screwed up I guess
I dont know what Im doing

[sudden tendon]

Well u could sell those and then buy the ones u need

I personally have always just bought them off other ppl

Its pretty cheap anyways

[tawny zenith]

Fair I did just make a impluse purchase of plat

[silver breach]

Yeah the syndicates you pick aren't that big of a deal

[frosty flint]

?

[mellow adder]

I started the whispers in the walls quest finally.
But I didn’t get far before I went with my family to Malanka
Now I just wanna go home to get more lore.
I NEED ALL THE LORE

[lofty garden]

…Steam Deck

[mellow adder]

I don’t have the money to buy a steam deck.
I also don’t really need one.

I bought a gaming laptop because I only really game at home.

I could just leave. I did drive myself to this event.
Cause the last couple years my parents have stayed at this till 2am

[lofty garden]

Play on your phone

[mellow adder]

.1-.3 mbps upload/download speed data moment.

[lofty garden]

Or just watch lore videos

[mellow adder]

Im probably just gonna leave soon.
It’s so loud and overstimulating.

[heavy drift]

I want to try a new frame to see if I can find a new main (and need to mr grind but mostly just trying to have fun), who should I get? My top 3 rn from best to worst are garuda, nokko, koumei, and harrow is a close 4th

[mellow adder]

Harrow ❤️

Harrow is really fun imo.
Garuda is fun too

[heavy drift]

I realise my message makes it sound like the 3 i want the most, I meant theyre my 3 fav that I already have

Like for context on what I like already

[mellow adder]

Ah. Lol.
My statements about those two still stand.

But as for recommendations,
If you like melee (which if you enjoy Garuda I assume you do) then getting Excalibur or Excalibur Umbra might be fun for you (Umbra is gotten for free if you play enough story missions)

I don’t have Nokko or Koumei to know what might be comparable to them.

[heavy drift]

I normally prefer the frames that can nuke with abilities, like garudas ball or nokkos ball, but seeing as I cant aim, yeah I generally use melee more than guns. And I alr have excaliber umbra, ive dome all the main quests and am early sp

I havent really tried him much, I got rank 30 then haven't really touched him since, he seemed fine, but nothing special

[waxen thunder]

harrow has the aimbot headshot signature weapon

[heavy drift]

Yeah but the primary fire isnt great and idk which secondaries do good damage, I use purely epitaph

[waxen thunder]

yareli is so hard to play on mobile lmao

[strong field]

Hello!

[waxen thunder]

Haymaker splat sporelacer

[silver breach]

Are these the only frames you've tried?

[heavy drift]

Not all of them, I think about half tho

[waxen thunder]

i need 11 forma and an omni/umbra forma for yareli prime and sporelacer 🥀

[silver breach]

Melee and nuking huh.... Have you tried Voruna?

[heavy drift]

Didnt realise aoe worked for headshots, but also I haven't really touched any open world standings exceot deimos, I can get sporelacer but idk abt haymaker or splat

[silver breach]

Her Prime should release this year

[waxen thunder]

Haymaker is neutral or rank 1 entrati, splat is rank 4 fortuna

i am at a whole rank 2 fortuna 🥀 I hate fortuna bounties

[heavy drift]

Ok I can get haymaker, pretty sure im neutral in fortuna tho so that ones not happening

I dont mind getting 1 or 2 ranks but 4 is long

[waxen thunder]

yeah im slowly getting there

[heavy drift]

I have not, ill have a look at voruna too then

[waxen thunder]

er nataruk exists

nataruk 🗣️

tree trunk sized projectiles

key distinction is that the projectile size is really massive it doesnt actually have an aoe

[heavy drift]

Any other loaders good on sporelacer that are easier to get? I did want to try sporelacer anyway, might try it with yareli too if I decide to get them, but im not getting 4 ranks in fortuna for splat

[silver breach]

You really like Nataruk huh, whenever I see you talking, you always fine a way to put Nataruk into the conversation

[waxen thunder]

go for yareli prime > yareli because waverider quest is awful

[heavy drift]

Didnt realise nataruk was good, I kind of thought pretty much all the quest items were meh

[silver breach]

Most of the quest weapons are really good

[waxen thunder]

true! (when you finish new war at mr7 and find an item that does 9k damage non crit)

[silver breach]

Thornbak, broken war, Xoris, Nataruk, etc are all A+ tier

[waxen thunder]

broken sceptre:

[heavy drift]

Can i get the prime rn? I cant trade plat because switch so unless I hsve the relics alr then I cant get it

[silver breach]

Hence why I said most

[waxen thunder]

relics are not vaulted

she released in may

[heavy drift]

Only one I knew was good was broken war, I thought the rest were average at best, might have to actually mod some properly then

[heavy drift]

Ok I might have to get her then if I get sporelacer

[waxen thunder]

terrible riven (sceptre has 0% cc)

[silver breach]

I'm not exaggerating when I say Xoris is considered by many to be one of the best melees in the game. Glaives in general are up there, for not just melees, but weapons overall, and Xoris is up there in that category (ofc it gets major points because it's freely given)

[proper stratus]

xoris and nataruk are my beloved weapons

[heavy drift]

Though are any of the loaders good on sporelacer that dont require r4 in fortuna, because im not patient enough to get 4 ranks

[waxen thunder]

and its like the only thing that can clear granum voids easily

[heavy drift]

Ill try it out while I rank up any new frames i get then, ty

[silver breach]

Do note that glaives are very very very different compared to other melee weapons, and are built completely different as well so do bare that in mind

[waxen thunder]

killstreak works i think

[silver breach]

The gameplay is definitely divisive among the player base. Some hate it, and others love it

[heavy drift]

Ill just find a build on youtube or something, thats what I normally do anyway

[silver breach]

I'm in the camp of love

[heavy drift]

Idk until I try it, so might as well

[silver breach]

Yes

[waxen thunder]

mobile gaming (yareli k drive is so hard to play in orokin void)

thin ass doorways that you can get caught on and stupid pillars

[heavy drift]

Does that not also need fortuna r4 tho?

[waxen thunder]

er zipneedle is rank 3 that works too idk lemme check

[carmine slate]

What the difference between vexed armors damage buff and elemental wards damage buff ( assuming cold or electric)

[heavy drift]

I mean id rather not, but i guess 3 ranks is bearable

[magic aurora]

Anyone got Marie maxed out?

[waxen thunder]

i mean sporelacer does want the pax charge arcane (rank 5 Solaris united)

[heavy drift]

Starting to think I just shouldn't get the sporelacer if its that much standing

[waxen thunder]

its a good weapon it’s just standing hell i think

just grab any loader you can get

[heavy drift]

Yeah thats the issue, I dont like doing standing stuff, especially not getting the items to rank up

[silver breach]

Where are you in story

[heavy drift]

What story

[waxen thunder]

mainline

[heavy drift]

Like the main quests? I dont all of them, Im early sp

Not the side quests, only the ones mandatory for sp

[silver breach]

Aight that's good to hear

[heavy drift]

I can do any deimos one or thr neutral fortuna and cetus ones

[opaque hinge]

does eda standing count for daily cap? or is it exceed the limit?

[waxen thunder]

eda?

[silver breach]

Elite deep Archimedea

[coarse basin]

iirc it counts

[silver breach]

Oh eta and eda give standing?

[opaque hinge]

so basically if I already cap, no standing is gain yes? (also Netracell too)

[silver breach]

That's news to me(tbf I don't do eta and eda lmao)

[waxen thunder]

i dont think daily standing limit has any exceptions

[opaque hinge]

iirc 15k

[silver breach]

Damn that's a lot

[opaque hinge]

Simaris has exception, if you scan target that he choose daily

[waxen thunder]

oh right yeah

i just unlocked so/eso today

because i was putting off new strange

[opaque hinge]

though that only apply on the final reward, the scan you do during the hunt does count toward daily cap

[lofty garden]

correct

[opaque hinge]

does Netracell standing included in the cap?

[lofty garden]

yes

[silver breach]

[heavy drift]

How do aoe weapons interact with headshots? Specifically for harrows lasting covenant and abilities

[rare nexus]

What standing? That's just a weekly mission you do for those rewards

[opaque hinge]

EDA will give you 15k standing per week if you finish it

Netracell give 5k

[silver breach]

It's gives standing

[silver breach]

Each btw. So it's 25k if you do 5 netracells

[rare nexus]

That's really good to know lmao my fault

is this the right channel where I should ask about the consent mechanic when I have the option to start dating X but I'm dating Y over here?

[heavy drift]

Can secondary sporelacer get headshots even though its aoe?

[latent kraken]

Is steel path worth unlocking? Idk what rewards it gives or how hard it is tho

Also do I just need to do all the planets or do places unlocked later on like the Zariman and something like Kuva Fortress count too

[rare nexus]

Yes

Always

[rare nexus]

Neither Zariman or Kuva fortress are needed

[silver breach]

I do know that some AOE guns can headshot

For example Sporothrix is aoe and it can headshot.

Idk about grenade launchers or arm canon type weapons, but some AoEs can headshot.

Idk about sporelacer, I don't have it yet

[gusty turtle]

There's A LOT of jank and no consistency

[silver breach]

It just depends on the weapon I guess

[heavy drift]

Weird, is there any relation between the ones that can and the ones that cant to differentiate them or does it seem random

[heavy drift]

So it can but it doesnt?

[gusty turtle]

Mostly, yeah

Fulmin should but it doesn't

[heavy drift]

Ok, thank you

[gusty turtle]

Onos incarnon will count a headshot if you're up the enemy's ass

Should be treated case by case mostly

[silver breach]

Sporothrix is a sniper rifle.

It really just depends on the weapon ig.

Yeah case by case

[gusty turtle]

Sporothrix's a different thing

It shoots an explosive projectile

Projectile registering on the head and exploding from it has no issues

There are tons of weapons and some are coded differently

Can't really unify

[chilly jungle]

akarius

[stray monolith]

Some of the higher faction rank descriptions are vague and confusing,flavor text is cool and all,and I just wanna know what benefit I’m getting from ranking up too

[gusty turtle]

You'll get more wares

If you look at wares you'll see rank restricted items

[stray monolith]

Thanks

[silver breach]

You get some lore stuff, new dialogue, and you gain access to all that factions items.

[stray monolith]

I love the lore stuff,I probably should talk about it In lore discussion later right

[silver breach]

some lore stuff can be freely talked about, we just don't go into deep discussions here

It's kinda hard for a conversation to flow if we keep jumping from different channels

But yeah, for deeper lore dives you can go into lore discussions

[gusty turtle]

And for relevant deeper lore dives it's #spoiler-chat

Most people who discuss lore only talk in those two

[silver breach]

Yep

[coarse basin]

and sometimes lore stuff will start in here or general and become the epstein files

[chilly jungle]

how does dating a protoframe affect lebrons legacy

[indigo cloak]

U don’t know?

[coarse basin]

as in, a giant wall of black boxes

[silver breach]

Yeah I mean it's bound to happen, since lore does play a big role in the game even we just talk about gameplay. So talking about it a bit doesn't hurt.

[coarse basin]

how will the 18 nuclear wars affect the fishing season

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-21566940

[opaque hinge]

how do we hate Ballas more

[silver breach]

Kahl x Kaelli dating scene when

[chilly jungle]

i dont get how conservation is faster then fishing 😭

[gusty turtle]

Depends on how much Entrati hated him

[gusty turtle]

Norg

[coarse basin]

cuz kubrodons are like 2-8k standing each

[silver breach]

We have the Old Peace, and the New War, what's next? The Present Kerfuffle?

[coarse basin]

the recent fight

[chilly jungle]

i could either spend 8 minutes for 5k standing or 8 minutes of "hunting" for 25k standing

[coarse basin]

the upcoming scuffle

[chilly jungle]

my grammar 💔

[gusty turtle]

Yeah tau update does read like "the upcoming scuffle"

[silver breach]

I can't wait for the next story chapter called "The Recent Conflict"

[tawny zenith]

Is it perferable to hit all the checks in mining gems

[chilly jungle]

what time is tau going to be in tho 💔

[gusty turtle]

Upcoming

||"tau is in sight"||

[heady hollow]

Perita or descendia? What’s the difference? Are you locked into one once you choose?

[chilly jungle]

who falls for these 😭

[tawny zenith]

@hollow sparrow

[silver breach]

They're different game modes

[chilly jungle]

perita = tauron strikes and arcane, descendia = arcanes, uriel and his weapons

[silver breach]

Descendia is for farming Uriel and his Weapon.

Perita is for farming the Tektolyst Artifacts

(Tho you also need to farm perita for some of uriels mats)

[heady hollow]

So I can choose whichever one when I enter? I won’t be locked into just one?

[grand dust]

had that same shit sent by ex oomf but instead mr beast was there 😭

[lofty garden]

You are not locked in

[heady hollow]

Thank you guys!

[gusty turtle]

<@&778745217037238293>

[lofty garden]

for all five artifacts, you are looking at 30-40 hrs of gameplay in perita rebellion

decendia takes considerably less time to get what you need for uriel and vinquibus

[silver breach]

Yeah I got all I needed for Uriel in the first run I ever did for descendia

It's super fast

[inner hedge]

Who we snitching on?

[gusty turtle]

Mr beast free money

Win 1000 billion poopcoin

[chilly jungle]

100% rng tho

[inner hedge]

Warframe is rng it says in very very small font

[chilly jungle]

but it will probably take you like 3-5 rounds without that loot lvl 😭

[inner hedge]

Rngframe

[gusty turtle]

That's why Koumei is objectively the best

More gambling per gambling instance

[inner hedge]

Loki solos 🥱

[thorn hinge]

Loid just asked me to come make sure that he is at one piece in the neckralisk… the cutscene isn’t playing

[gusty turtle]

He doesn't have any gambling

[gusty turtle]

You should ask this in spoilers instead

[chilly jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-true-true-face-morgan-freeman-sponge-gif-2079152472903869039

[thorn hinge]

Mb

[chilly jungle]

NO WAY 😭

[frosty flint]

Noooo free money

Why’d they take my free money

[gusty turtle]

More mrbeast free money

[chilly jungle]

someone actually took the bait

[gusty turtle]

Mods claim them

[chilly jungle]

some people shouldn't be online 😭

[inner hedge]

Heres a question cant U trade any pet that isn't robotic? Cause of the DNA things

[silver breach]

[coarse basin]

[tawny zenith]

Im in isolation vault
Loid an Otak are stuck on a railing what do I do

[coarse basin]

read this as stuck on the ceiling lol

idk u might be cooked

[tawny zenith]

baller

My amp sucks anyways

[glad tusk]

Do you have a volt or nova

[tawny zenith]

I do have volt non prime

[glad tusk]

Use Speed to fix his AI

Hopefully that works, I'm only sure on nova's portal being able to move loid to get his pathing fixed

[tawny zenith]

ngl I feel like Im lacking in everything for all content oml

[chilly jungle]

kinda but you still have to breed it

[inner hedge]

Mmmmmmm bread 🤤

[chilly jungle]

ngl i think there might be a underground genetic market 😭

[chilly jungle]

btw you need 2 genetic imprints

[inner hedge]

So what I'm understanding U make some bread and sell it once U get a panzer

[chilly jungle]

wym

[inner hedge]

If U have a panzer vulsa U can get it's genetics and sell them

[chilly jungle]

nope

[inner hedge]

Yes tho

Cause I got 2 Cresent imprints

And I can use them

[chilly jungle]

wait nvm

[inner hedge]

Which is easy plat

Cause people crave the tank cat

[chilly jungle]

but im pretty sure you can easily get one of those by just conservation or smth

[inner hedge]

No U get the tags

[silver breach]

question: can melee rivens get Heavy attack wind up speed?

[inner hedge]

Not the actual thing

[chilly jungle]

cant you craft them 😭

[daring parrot]

i think so

[inner hedge]

Most likely if I had to guess cause my quassus has cc for normal and heavy

[inner hedge]

Nope sadly

[silver breach]

ok thanks

[chilly jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jordan-no-no-gdfactoryclips-gdfactory-gif-14430846022038901389

[inner hedge]

Tho U don't do hunting

I*

[chilly jungle]

go to deimos talk to son

or whatever the pet guy is

[inner hedge]

CBA watching jjk :p

[chilly jungle]

you can craft them 😭

[inner hedge]

Swear U can't but ohwell still U can get a easy plat cause most people won't grind standing

[chilly jungle]

standing on deimos aint hard tho

[inner hedge]

Ik but considering baby tenno like to not do standing :p like my zariman is R2 cause I don't understand what's cool about them

[lofty garden]

incarnon weapons

[chilly jungle]

endo

[inner hedge]

U don't need rank to get incarnons and incarnons are boring

[chilly jungle]

only syndicates you getting to r5 is zariman,sanctum anatamica and 1999

[inner hedge]

No need tbh

[chilly jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jordan-no-no-gdfactoryclips-gdfactory-gif-14430846022038901389

[daring parrot]

I max ranked them for the ephemera mainly. but they have really good weapons and arcanes

[chilly jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-true-true-face-morgan-freeman-sponge-gif-2079152472903869039

only using 2 for like 1 day

[inner hedge]

I get more fun out of the game collecting primes I've got like 12 left?

Nvm 10

[chilly jungle]

yk you can make endo into plat ✌️

[inner hedge]

And I can also use my money :p

[chilly jungle]

nah

[heady hollow]

I am trying to trade a prime suit to my son, I don’t see the main blue print though, just the pieces? Why?

[chilly jungle]

in this economy 😭 ✌️

[inner hedge]

I get bonuses alot so like and 2 days ago was my bday so like

[silver breach]

do you have the main blueprint yeah?

[daring parrot]

double check in your inventory that you have the prime blueprint ig

[inner hedge]

For some reason the blueprints like to be at the bottom of the prime items section so check if it's there

[heady hollow]

Ok I’ll check there thank you

[inner hedge]

Np

[heady hollow]

Yup! They were allllllllll the way down for some reason, thank you!!!!

[inner hedge]

Np !

[silver breach]

you can search for a specific part

[tawny zenith]

Do these things just come once in a lifetime or what

[lofty garden]

use the focused nosam cutter

has to do with how the game deals with uncommon items and mining

[coarse comet]

help lol idk what to do

[inner hedge]

Stop following meta is a start

[coarse comet]

??

[silver breach]

holy you have an Ocucor riven

imo left is better,

[coarse comet]

I didn't buy this riven if that's what you think, I'm a new player and got it by pure luck so I crafted the ocucor to get a massive jump in what I can do in the game

[silver breach]

I personally like the base damage, so it helps the weapon ramp up

[inner hedge]

Still meta is boring

Plinx better

[coarse comet]

you're boring for telling other people what to do go away

[silver breach]

while I do agree, we cant judge people for how they play. If its fun for them, then its fun for them

like how people judge "non meta" its all subjective

[coarse comet]

I don't use the ocucor because its meta I use it because I got a riven for it and I would be stupid not to use it

[inner hedge]

Ik ik but like following a "meta" when atlas is a option

[silver breach]

ok? sure, just let people do what they want to play

[inner hedge]

Yes but punchy man

[silver breach]

anyway, in my humble opinion, left is better. Besides you wont be reloading with Ocucor anyway, if you know what youre doing

[coarse comet]

yeah, I have sentient surge

alright I'll stick with left, that damage is really nice

thank you :D

[silver breach]

omg now this is a choice....

[coarse comet]

👀

never even heard of this weapon yet whats it do?

[silver breach]

its a heavy scythe....than can shoot like a gun

[woeful zinc]

raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

whoops

[coarse comet]

https://tenor.com/view/rwby-red-shooting-scythe-gif-6465456333694907278

[coarse comet]

make sure u take good care of ur back

[woeful zinc]

my hands hurt cuz i go up in sky and press 4

[coarse comet]

orbital strike?

[silver breach]

yes excatly like this, im not joking. its the exact same way

[coarse comet]

HAHA that's awesome

[woeful zinc]

unfortunately i play mesa that way

[coarse comet]

xD I didn't even know you could

[woeful zinc]

i would just jump high and press four

again and again

[coarse basin]

almost, yeah. wtf is she doing in this tho

[silver breach]

ok I think I just found an interest bug/interaction.

So you guys know when we use Galvanized Relfex, it gives us 80 Initial Combo right? but when we heavy attack it resets back to 0, and it has to build up the combo again to 80.

But with this Riven that also gives its own Initial Combo, when I do a heavy attack the combo doesnt go back to 0. It just stays at a constant 5x

very interesting

idk if the build up to combo, or the static 5x are just Visual tho

can anyone tell if if the build up for combo for Galv Reflex just visual? or does it actually mean if we heavy attack too fast, we might not get the full 5x?

[tawny zenith]

Are any of the nightwave mods rn must haves

Energy siphon looks neat but doesnt seem like it'd be worth

[lofty garden]

Always good to have them all

[tawny zenith]

Should I buy the augments first even if I dont own the frame?

[lofty garden]

sure

unless you are taking the syndicate tour

[fresh cairn]

which should I take?

[lofty garden]

khora is the most difficult of the three to obtain

[woeful zinc]

^

[silver breach]

khora will still be annoying since you still need to get Kavat DNA

[daring parrot]

yes 100% get khora

[fresh cairn]

thanks

which should I get? is shotgun vendetta worth buyinwg?

[silver breach]

OK never mind what I said here, I know why the Combo isnt going down anymore, its because of the Heavy Attack Efficiency from the Riven and Reflex. Its at 100%

[lofty garden]

I like it.

[silver breach]

im just dumb lmao

[tawny zenith]

I finally got the necramech parts in forging
What are a new player's priorites
I dont have a good amp yet cause that seems like a nightmare cause I dont have a good build going on any warframe or weapon

[silver breach]

amps are pretty easy

a 1/1/1 is super easy to get

[lofty garden]

leveling up quills just means murdering a whole bunch of voms

[silver breach]

and legit a 1/1/1 will carry you everywhere

[lavish apex]

eventually you will have access to the Sirocco and that alone is enough

[tawny zenith]

Oh fr?

[silver breach]

you can also get the sentient cores from Lua Conjuction Survivals passively if youre doing relics there

[tawny zenith]

Idk I was tryna do those requiem obilsiesk things and did basically no damage to the infested even when softening them up with my frame

I vaugely remember the angel fight

I got carried for eidolon hunts when a friend was still grinding a game and I basically couldn't do anything

[daring parrot]

use your necramech

[tawny zenith]

Crafting the parts

then its another 72 hours for the mech itself

joy

[daring parrot]

or pro tip, if your frame kills the infestation while you are in your operator form it counts

so like yareli aquablades

[silver breach]

which school allows us to do finishers again?

[daring parrot]

i think the melee one

[silver breach]

naramon?

[tawny zenith]

This is what I currently own

[daring parrot]

umbra might work

unsure

[tawny zenith]

Yeah his passive seems like it'd do that

Oh well
ngl I want nothing to do with deismos until the necramech is done

I kinda want a really good secondary but i've just been recommended incarnors and kuva/tenet weapons
I dont think I can clear my own kuva lich rn with what I have

[lofty garden]

given the state of the railjacks I have had to ride on, you are probably fine

[chilly jungle]

start subsuming those base frames ✌️🥹

[tawny zenith]

🙂 I don't think I own the helmith system yet

[chilly jungle]

90% of railjack mission is just leeching on people who have good railjacks

[lofty garden]

this is the lich mission

[tawny zenith]

Also needs me to grind for rank 5 and its probably much easier once I stop playing for 3 days just for this necramech

[inner hedge]

Do U like nidus by chance?

[lofty garden]

No one has magic missiles, so the fighter section of the mission takes forever

[tawny zenith]

Very much
P sure I got him when he first came out
stopped playing for a while
came back for nidus prime access
shed a tear that I couldn't buy the prime access for that sick ass necramech skin

[silver breach]

Kompressa Prime, Epitaph Prime, Akarius Prime, Grimiore, Laetum (yes its an incarnon but its easy to get), Scyotid

[tawny zenith]

I was thinking of trying to get akarius prime
I only have a few relics that can drop it tho

[silver breach]

Riot-848 seems really good too. Im still working on my own copy, but looking at the stats it seems good. Same with EFV-8 Mars

[tawny zenith]

💔 unfortunately I haven't started most things post war within

[silver breach]

Ocucor ofc

[tawny zenith]

or was it seond dream
I dont remember anything

Anyways I haven't started whispers in the walls

[silver breach]

what MR are you

[tawny zenith]

Im MR 12
I was gonna work on silver grove for that one mod

[silver breach]

I will spread the greatness of Twin Grakatas

[coarse basin]

ive heard mars is trash lol

[tawny zenith]

Im looking back at my steam achievements and I really did play month breaks between every year up until 2021
got back in 2024 for a month before coming back last month

[coarse basin]

I should say, uh... leaves something to be desired

[coarse basin]

do your quests already wtf

[silver breach]

damn really? what about Riot? the stats seem fine

[coarse basin]

mr12 and not even done new war

[silver breach]

has blast on its radial attack

[coarse basin]

riot's decent I think

[tawny zenith]

Nah I did new war dw :)

[coarse basin]

ok finish the rest then

you can do whispers right this moment

[tawny zenith]

So true its the weekend im unemployed

[timber trout]

is diriga worth investing in or nautilus prime?

[worthy comet]

both are good for different things

although i'd craft naut prime just to get verglas prime

it's the cooler artax

[lavish apex]

yup, when the Angels quest hit, i was a bit worried because the game kinda implies a lot of investing on the Operator
it really isnt that much. I unlocked each vanilla madurai skill for focus
Put on the Sirocco.

That was it

Also, yeah, Umbra makes the PVE needs much easier.
press 4 for exalted blade, and let it go on automode

[worthy comet]

still worth building your own amp imo

makes op more fun to play

[mellow adder]

GO AWAY WALLY

[lavish apex]

well it depends on what he would like to do, story progression or playstyle customization

im still updating my operator, the grind takes a bit more time

[worthy comet]

||"it won't get better if you KEEP. ON. PICKING. AT. IT."||

[coarse basin]

you can get rid of him later on

[worthy comet]

there's no way to make him stop appearing the orbiter right?

or were you referring to something else

also that moment is quest-specific

[coarse basin]

no there isn't

[coarse basin]

and yes, I was.

||he doesn't show up in the backrooms without the chair||

[worthy comet]

funny thing is i deliberately got the chair and they still haven't paid me a visit in there yet lol

[coarse basin]

I don't want the chair

wait can you put it anywhere in the backrooms

[lavish apex]

wait, chair?

im post old peace, so, what chair?

[coarse basin]

the normal office chair

it's just a normal office chair

[lavish apex]

I feel this has significance but i am missing something

[coarse basin]

you can buy it from velimir

it's an office chair. a normal office chair.

[lavish apex]

huh

alright

[coarse basin]

I feel like you can guess

[tawny zenith]

Ight Im sticking with this grimoire forever

[coarse basin]

did you just get it

[tawny zenith]

Yeah

[worthy comet]

neat book

[coarse basin]

oh then you don't have its mods yet

tome mods

[obsidian sundial]

Is Hydroid Prime a good frame to use an orokin catalyst on?

Or whatever the name of that version of the item is

[lost geyser]

Every prime is good to potato

[obsidian sundial]

Fair

[old tundra]

can they reject?

[heady copper]

they can

but if you havent disagreed with her much on entrati and been good with her in general she shouldnt?

[dusk yoke]

Currently MR9. I've been using the corinth as my go-to for a while now but haven't used a catalyst on it. Do I bite the bullet and use one or are there significantly better primaries I should save it for instead?

[lofty garden]

Felarx, Boar Prime Incarnon.

[worthy comet]

up to you, i used a catalyst on a regular hek when i was still new

[lofty garden]

I would at least get a Felarx and try it out

[worthy comet]

you should probably ask if they've done angels of the zariman yet before recommending that

[lofty garden]

Doesn’t matter. MR14, so they can’t

Kuva Sobek/Kohm/Hek

they can get those

[soft ledge]

Is there a set rotation for steel path circuit or do i have to get lucky for the weapon i want to pop up

[worthy comet]

it's set

[lofty garden]

for adapters, or for the loadout options?

Adapters are on a fixed schedule that is listed in the Wiki

[soft ledge]

Alr thx for the info

[lost geyser]

Where do I get that from

[worthy comet]

the felarx is one of the special weapons obtained from a syndicate locked behind the angels of the zariman quest

[stoic surge]

How do I nuke with voruna easily? Any good voruna players can tell me?

[old tundra]

any weapons worth grinding for from old peace?

[vast pike]

anyone else had the problem for uriels chest pieces where they defeated the hard mode tank while wearing the chest piece but never recieved the next one?

literally got the sundali for the ship but never recieved my new chest piece and i was wearing it

[lofty garden]

you do not have to grind old peace weapons

you’ll end up with all the weapons in the process of grinding the artifacts

[lavish apex]

So the Descendia was hella fun (pun intended)
I missed the entire background and just went into it but thats definitely going to be another run

[old tundra]

i meant like sagek, vinquibus

anything to change or add? and should i use primary adapter (nataruk)

[tawny zenith]

godammn The bounties after whisper in the walls are definitely something I cant handle

[old tundra]

is primary deadhead or merciless better for nataruk?

[tawny zenith]

Wow my lecturn finally has something on it now

😎 After 2 years..

[silver breach]

theres definitely a difficulty spike

[tawny zenith]

I can honestly barely handle something around 40 - 50
Am I supposed to have unlocked steel path by now

[silver breach]

well steel path is way harder than level 40-50s

steel path at base are level 100

couple it with the fact that SP has Armor and HP modifiers, like adding 100% more of those stats etc

[old tundra]

i traded 36 relics for 24 cyan stars, 6 amber stars, and r5 primary deadhead is that fair or not?

[silver breach]

36 relics seems a lot

[old tundra]

it is

[soft ledge]

Is there a way to get to the simulacrum without going to a relay

[old tundra]

another question why would someone need 36 relics then he said get to mr12 youll understand

[silver breach]

sadly you HAVE to go to a relay. Though you can get there faster by going to the console right of your Navigation.

theres a Console for Syndicates, you can teleport right to Simaris from there

but yeah you still have to load into a relay

[soft ledge]

I use the backroom so its in a different spot

[silver breach]

did he ask for a specific relic?

[old tundra]

nope

just 36

[silver breach]

im not quite sure what they meant with "get to mr12, youll understand"

[old tundra]

i asked why he needed 36 relics he said get to mr 12 youll understand

and should i arcane nata?

[silver breach]

im MR27 i dont understand

LMAOO

why would they ask for 36 random relics hmmmm

[old tundra]

arcane nataruk or no?

[old tundra]

dude im so confused

[keen lintel]

He is just messing with u

[old tundra]

NO BUT FOR WHAT 😭

[daring parrot]

should I message him later about 36 relics in a cryptic way

[old tundra]

pls do

make it like how wally would do it

[abstract marsh]

Bro I just need 36 relics

[daring parrot]

36

[old tundra]

63

[daring parrot]

it's the new 67

36

[old tundra]

fr

[silver breach]

damn this person will get freaked out why people started asking about 36

[old tundra]

3636363636363636

[daring parrot]

new descendia 36 floor mode teaser

[old tundra]

floor 36 is wild

whos the boss? biblically accurate satan?

[daring parrot]

biblically inaccurate satan

[old tundra]

damn

[daring parrot]

its just a 3d scan of steve with motion cap animations

[old tundra]

what are we even talking abt??

[daring parrot]

36

LMAO it's auto detected now

[old tundra]

right

363636

[old tundra]

what is?

[daring parrot]

compromised account sending some images

it's a scam and usually the mods have to be called but the bot is catching the images instantly now

[old tundra]

oooh

abt those crpyto codes bs?

[willow bluff]

Wow didn't think they'll optimize their bot this well.

[red path]

wonder when they do something with in-game chat bot

[chilly jungle]

which type of relics

[old tundra]

any

[chilly jungle]

radiant?

[old tundra]

nope

[chilly jungle]

so 36 random relics

[old tundra]

yeah

[red path]

so, just 36 runs of hepit, can do that in under an hour

[old tundra]

ok

[chilly jungle]

ig

[chilly jungle]

what did you get in return tho

[old tundra]

r5 primary deadhead, 24 cyan, and 6 amber stars

[chilly jungle]

first and only trade that isnt for plat 😭 ✌️

[old tundra]

lol fr

arcane nata or not?

[chilly jungle]

wym

[old tundra]

arcane nataruk or not?

[chilly jungle]

bro what are you talking about 😭

[old tundra]

should i use arcane adapter on nataruk or not????

[silver breach]

hes asking if he should unlock the arcane slot

[silver breach]

its ultimately up to you, do you like using Nataruk?

[old tundra]

i guess

[red holly]

if so, then yes

[silver breach]

youre not sure if you enjoy using the weapon? then you probably should save the adapter for a weapon you actually like

[red holly]

I felt like playing with Grakata recently so I did

[chilly jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sageyonce-gif-20853661

[old tundra]

mb bruh that shit was cryptic

[silver breach]

how do you have all the perfect gifs lmao

[chilly jungle]

primary and secondary arcanes are easy to get tho

[old tundra]

DONE

[red holly]

it's the melee that are not as easy to get, 50k standing with cavia

[chilly jungle]

netracells

[red holly]

thanks

[mellow adder]

yeah. not doing old peace rn.
started the first mission and ||immediately spent 10 minutes trying and failing to reach the first check point||

[old tundra]

u got this king :

[spare summit]

Apparently

Hammer slam does cause knockback, opening ground finisher

[mellow adder]

viral does 0.5x dmg to murmur. but does it's effect still apply normally? the extra damage to health?

[waxen thunder]

Yes

you use viral anyway because of the status

[mellow adder]

good to know

[clever night]

People, what do you consider the best Lich quirk to have? I am kind-of torn, and there are no good sources out there that I have found on this particular aspect

they are decoration, but some are always better thenb others

[mellow adder]

uhhh. weapons.
if ive put an orokin catalyst into it im pretty certain I can't get that back, right?

if I don't want the weapon is the anything better to do than sell it?

also, where do I get a fomorian disruptor?

[peak river]

Lotus sends you a blueprint to your inbox when it's Fomorian Time
You make the Disruptors by using a new material that drops from missions on the planet the Fomorian is threatening

[peak river]

You cannot get potatoes back and selling is the best thing for making room in your inventory

[old tundra]

is there a best incarnon gun?

[red path]

there is no really best, since there is a lot of good ones and it's a matter of preference or owning a riven

my personal best is latron prime and cestra prime, but I have riven for cestra

[gray helm]

how to farm quills standing?

[red path]

eidolon hunts and archon hunts drop quite a lot of sentient cores

there is also bp to upgrade normal cores to better version that cost more standing

[elfin jungle]

does anyone have stalke rbeacons they dont mind usin

i wanna get hate 🙏

[rugged shore]

The bps not being tradeable to this day is crazy tbh

[red path]

if there is something you can buy from market for plat there is 98% chance it's not tradable

[urban charm]

I hate ascendant penance

[urban charm]

I can't heal with it but it's showing everyone else i'm at max health

[zinc lotus]

GUIDES BABYYYY

[silver breach]

yes it does

[cloud jacinth]

torid is pretty bonkers, the burston is considered to be incredibly strong too

i like the boltor and braton incarnons too

[old tundra]

i see these two everywhere

and im quite torn

[cloud jacinth]

they're obtained in different rotations

can get em both

besides, you get 2 choices per rotation

[old tundra]

i cant craft the burston but i have all the parts, i have the torid but no incarnon or mods and i havent gotten sp access

[cloud jacinth]

neither of them are great without their incarnons

till you get them, the nataruk is probably your best choice

[glad tusk]

Yeah incarnons are designed to take bad weapons and make em good for a few minutes

Then you gotta refill the tank

[red path]

but many incarnon perks affect normal firing mode too, and sometimes make it even better than incarnon form

[fresh cairn]

is shotgun vendetta worth buying?

[bold brook]

5m is almost point blank, I doubt it would be useful in higher level missions

unless you go for some weird stealth-crit shotgun build

[fresh cairn]

gotcha

[opaque hinge]

sorry for the messy video, but what is the gun that this Wisp using? Is it a kitgun ?

[bold brook]

looks like it

[languid onyx]

having trouble with 3rd challenge for sands of inaros quest, i got denial bursa as challenge, been running baal on europa, quest is set as main active, got the vessel on my gear inventory, and waiting on them to explode before moving on and not hacking them

[willow bluff]

If it's a beam kitgun, it's either gaze or vermisplicer

[languid onyx]

only thing i havent tried is using a different frame from uriel, but that cant be it right?

[opaque hinge]

it more like the shotgun

[opaque hinge]

I think you have to hack them

[languid onyx]

ill try more with that but everywhere ive read says do not hack them

[opaque hinge]

apparently hacking DOES WORK

the guide on wiki need a rework because some of the info is not correct at all

[willow bluff]

Luckily you're a member of wiki discord.

[languid onyx]

ok well, went to do it on disruption on neptune, used valk this time, i had one already counted and then killed 5 more and hacked 1 during the mission and it is now done, figured if kills work then it will finish and if not i will see if one hack counted

guess we will never know if hacks count or not but at least letting them expire and blow up does

and i would say letting robotic onslaught fail is by far best use of my time compared to baal, but i guess its kinda rng if you get it early or not

[shy jackal]

Roar or nourish on hydroid? No energy issues

[boreal pier]

probs roar because of viral tempest

[shy jackal]

What if im running gun buffer build

[boreal pier]

depends if you run range ig

you could weapons plat with some range and run viral tempest

otherwise probably go nourish over 1

[shy jackal]

Viral temp is basically priming?

[shy jackal]

Thanks

[boreal pier]

yee

[chilly nebula]

Whice is beter ocucor or gammacor incarnon?

[plain void]

Is survival in the void the best argon crystal farm?

[opaque hinge]

not really unless you have boosters

[lost geyser]

Vault runs in a 4 man squad:

[opaque hinge]

use Xaku and go to capture mission, spam their 4

[lost geyser]

With someone to break containers

[opaque hinge]

max range too

[opaque hinge]

isnt that deimos?

[lost geyser]

2 birds with one stone

[lost geyser]

Wait I’m dumb

My b

I usually just do void captures that are also fissures

So I can do a lot per run

[plain void]

I have boosters, I got 18 in 15 min but didn’t know if there was a better way.

[vale falcon]

Ocucor if you have sentient surge

[plain void]

I don’t have xaku

[opaque hinge]

then survival then

[vale falcon]

You got limbo or yareli? They work fine for the capture version too (limbo being better than yareli)

[opaque hinge]

2 weeks ago there are alerts for an operation that placed in Void and enemy there drop a tons of Argon

[plain void]

Nah I don’t have either. Uriel’s one blows things up close by and I can fly through but nothing that destroys a lot around me. I can just do a few survival runs, luckily you don’t need a ton of argon’s at once anyways

I’ve been messing a lot with Nova prime, really like her but I don’t see the use of her 3. I’m not sure if swapping the wormhole with Roar is worth it or really stupid. Probably stupid

[willow bluff]

Do u have nyx or shedu or one tauron strike?

[plain void]

No

[willow bluff]

Damn

Uriel's 4 is also a cratebreaker but can't be spammed

[plain void]

It’s cool, I have boosters and the perk for the pets that give extra resources so it isn’t too bad

I was just wondering if there was a more efficient way lol

[willow bluff]

Besides, ultimately you'll have to fly to loot anyway, unless u have Greedy Pull susbume

[plain void]

Is Novas wormhole actually useful for something? Was thinking about removing it but idk enough about her tbh

[willow bluff]

There's the particle accelerator build which shoots a fat projectile into the portal for it to loop the projectile into itself

It's been a bit nerfed to remove AFK but it is still quite nice

[plain void]

I see. Well other than that, is there a reason not to swap it to roar?

Like is there a mission or something important where it’s just like, insane lol

[willow bluff]

The other reason is Escape Velocity augment and to teleport NPCs like defense operatives, drones in open world, etc.

It significantly boosts drone mission in plains bounty

[plain void]

That is true, I could use regular nova for that tho. I want my prime nova to just be pure DPS. But yeah I don’t know if that’s viable. I have the augments for null stars and molec, prime

I know volt can also boost the drones too

[sonic whale]

can i get someones opinion on a riven idk if its worth rerolling or not

[willow bluff]

I liked using her 2 for low to mid lvl nukes, but nova nukes quite well with her 4 and most weapons

So I use her 2 as subsume slot

[plain void]

I’m just so bad at building anything. I have been watching videos for 4 hours and have played for 130 hours now. This game is just so complicated sometimes lol

I could drop her 2?

[willow bluff]

I started minecraft a while ago

I'm too overwhelmed that it reminds me of early warframe experience

Overwhelmingly good, but tiring the brain nonetheless

[plain void]

Alright. Time to google nova prime builds. I need to feel the dopamine hit my brain

[vapid halo]

Don’t do that. If u need a dmg boost for her 1 give her nourish in place of 2.

[plain void]

I don’t have grendal

I’ll just leave it

[vapid halo]

I may share u mine

[willow bluff]

Yes

[plain void]

I wouldn’t mind but I’m only MR10 so I doubt I’ll have a lot of the good mods or archons

[sonic whale]

should i just send a pic here or want me to dm you

[willow bluff]

U can send here

[plain void]

No idea what that first screen even is lmao

[vapid halo]

Ull get it later

[plain void]

And I have 2 mods you have lol

Oh well

[willow bluff]

Hot Shot is also going to take a long time

[opaque hinge]

summoner wrath for the pet?

[vapid halo]

Yeah or plat

[vapid halo]

Yep, for verglas

[plain void]

Is arcane hot shot good for a lot of frames?

[willow bluff]

U use Viral heat or blast?

[vapid halo]

Gas

[opaque hinge]

companion dmg does not increase for sentinel iirc

[willow bluff]

It's nice!

[willow bluff]

[glad tusk]

Her 3 is a mobility tool, it let's go to where the targets are faster, which is a practical DPS boost in any mission where you're not stationary.

Her 2 falls off late game, so its only really used for low level stuff. Perfectly good to replace

[opaque hinge]

I may be wrong

[vapid halo]

It does increase

[willow bluff]

U r

[sonic whale]

yoooo really?? im so tempted to reroll it but idk

[willow bluff]

Summoner's wrath even double dips on companion weapon DoTs

[plain void]

Thank you. I’ll keep that in mind. I only have Roar and Silence atm. Need to farm grendal to sacrifice lol

[glad tusk]

Considering companions like hounds can activate it, basically any frame can leverage it

[willow bluff]

Cedo (Prime) still doesn't have good disposition so don't bother

[vapid halo]

Dmg; heat; ms on riven

[willow bluff]

Getting a double elemental combo with status duration is good

[plain void]

Okay. I’ll look into it. If it’s not CRAZY expensive, I’ll t try and get it. I only have like 600 plat after reading all day lol

[willow bluff]

It is crazy expensive

[plain void]

Nevermind lmao

615 on wfm… I’ll pass

[glad tusk]

I feel like gas is kinda a waste for verglas? Like keep in mind the fire rate and status chance, alot of procs are going to waste

[sonic whale]

oh poo, whats disposition?

[vapid halo]

Then u can give her roar for her 2, tho it will be weak because nova doesn’t really benefit from strength higher than ult cap

[vapid halo]

It kills

[willow bluff]

The 5 dots you see named as disposition in modding screen.

[plain void]

I’ll just leave it for now. I can wait. I have other frames and I’m not doing steel path

[willow bluff]

Basically they decide the strength of a riven

[sonic whale]

ohhhhhh

[willow bluff]

Cedo can't have very high stat rivens

[plain void]

I have SO much to do. Haven’t touched any riven mods at all. Haven’t gotten through MSQ.. I keep getting distracted

[willow bluff]

Normal experience

[plain void]

Anyways, have a good one everyone and thank you all for the help. Love this community

[glad tusk]

Well yeah its the verglas, im just sayin, lots of status chance going to waste

[vapid halo]

I’ve tested damage in both simulacrum and missions and gas is better imho because it does leave a cloud for a while, while blast don’t leave any effects after it kills enemies

[willow bluff]

If it works it works

[willow bluff]

Oh about that...
Oh boy I have a bad news for u

[glad tusk]

Tbh i run viral heat with mag and rad to maximize priming shenanigananery

Plus heat procs cascadia flare and hot shot!

[vapid halo]

Like?

[willow bluff]

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1468875-gas-status-clouds-are-bugged-after-the-main-enemy-is-dead/

Lingering Clouds are bugged SINCE RELEASE

[vapid halo]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[willow bluff]

U can even test it in simulacrum by letting verglas kill an enemy and then spawning another before the cloud expires

Now some of u may ask "But Mecha Lavos gas nuke does work though?"

[glad tusk]

Ain't that more so lavos than gas?

[willow bluff]

That's because Mecha boosts it as base damage.

[vapid halo]

MF

[willow bluff]

Lavos doesn't buff it other than status duration.

That's because lingering clouds completely suffer Alzheimer's and forget who the hell birthed them.

Hence they lose all buffs.

[analog wadi]

Does anyone know how the claw mods that convert elem damage interact with elem damage from theorem infection?

[vapid halo]

But it’s killing anyway

[willow bluff]

The kills are not from "lingering" clouds

Those are from regular clouds

[fierce mango]

Did they rework sabotage cache rotations? I am noticing I am receiving A rotation rewards for C rotation

[vapid halo]

Shit

[willow bluff]

The game changes their state to "lingering" clouds when the main enemy on whom u proc'd the gas dies.

After that the green fart floating in air is pathetic damage, accurate to how farts damage

And guess what...

DE is completely aware about this:

Take my word; THEY WILL NOT FIX THIS.

It'll make stuff like Cyte's Acid Shells and Okina incarnon go AFK.

[analog wadi]

you mean the damage from valence doesn't apply to lingering clouds?

[willow bluff]

Even more AFK than before.

[willow bluff]

Yes, however this may not be true if valence is coded from enemy side as a vulnerability rather than from lavos side as a buff.

Like roar will still boost these lingering clouds

Because roar is a debuff coded from enemy side

[analog wadi]

so do faction mods continure to work?

[willow bluff]

Nope

Those modify ur equipped weapon, hence buff

But the lingering clouds forget where they originate from, so they will also forget all the mods you have equipped on that weapon

Since they have alzheimer's, if anyhow they even manage to get a kill, the kill credit won't go to that specific frame or weapon.

Say if a lavos managed to kill a low lvl enemy by lingering clouds, he won't get Molt Augmented stack for it.

[analog wadi]

wait so both the increased gas damage from lavos using valence and his status duration thing get lost?

[willow bluff]

Status duration not, because apparently that's coded as universal effect

I am not sure if Valence Formation will still boost it. I gotta know if Valence is coded from lavos side or enemy side.

[willow bluff]

Good question, I might've asked something similar someday

I don't remember if I got an answer back then.

[willow bluff]

My bet is that Valence will also buff it. But I'm not 100% sure about it.

[red umbra]

does using silencer mods like suppress reduces enemy aggro on you in a non stealth scenario? i saw some people mentioned using suppress on titania pistols to reduce aggro on her

[compact cave]

which loot frame do i get khora or nekros?

[red path]

if I put primary bulwark on necramech archgun do i need to have 1k+ armor on it? or it works from warframe armor?

[willow bluff]

I'll not recommend that

As per my request, DE has enabled a better option for her exilus.

U get 52 energy per energy orb

That's 3 lesser than equilibrium

[red umbra]

so does it actually work or not. ik that its not recommended

[willow bluff]

If enemies are already aware about your presence, it won't help.

Like playing in squads.

[red umbra]

yeah ik, what i mean is does it reduces aggro. not completely removes aggro

[willow bluff]

Hard to say.
Possible scenario is that less people might try to shoot at you because they do not hear your gunfire.

Since this is non-stealth aspect, the difference won't be noticeable because titania flies anyway and has small hitbox.

[willow bluff]

Do u usually play in squad or solo?

[vale falcon]

You asked for it to work on noctua, just for them to specifically mention it not being put onto that due to it being AoE, kinda funny that one to me

[willow bluff]

If u play in squad, it's barely gonna make any difference.
If solo, this could help a little, but that too faint.

[willow bluff]

I literally said that in the same patch then.

Noctua alt fire is like Arca Plasmor, not an AoE.

Hell grimoire is more AoE than Noctua, but grimoire is allowed to equip Energizing Shot.

[random solstice]

i thought i could get the nautilus set cheap but these guys are reselling it for 70-80p

i could just buy it from warframe for 75

makes sense yes?

[willow bluff]

In game market sells it cheaper with a potato lol

But yeah, prime is better.

[random solstice]

fr man i couldn’t believe what i was witnessing

i only need it for mastery

so i might just farm it

[vale falcon]

And plasmor works for mending shot, so that one doesn't make full sense

And they only did it for the secondary exalteds too according to the wiki

[willow bluff]

Greed.

[little charm]

Any other frames neee reworked?

[willow bluff]

No actually
Because plasmor is a shotgun and Mending Shot is for rifles.

[random solstice]

hell of a drug

[willow bluff]

[vale falcon]

I didn't know that one lol

[willow bluff]

But yeah still, fat projectiles are allowed

They're not AoE

[random solstice]

i think chroma, banshee, hydroid do

[little charm]

Hydroid just got one

[random solstice]

bro needs another then and better skins too

[willow bluff]

Most primary exalteds had AoE
Not sure if Lizzie is also AoE but I don't think flamethrower like ignis can use mending shot either.

Neutralizer has an alt fire of AoE and Artemis Bow has concentration arrow augment to turn it into AoE.

I even asked in my post if they could make concentration arrow and mending shot somehow mutually exclusive to work.

[vale falcon]

They do it with thunderbolt already so maybe it could be done, be hard tho

[willow bluff]

Energizing Shot can only be equipped on Dex Pixia and Regulators as far as exalteds go.

Funnily I made Energizing Shot advantageous for Mesa anyway.

Even though she can't shoot them via her peacemakers

https://youtu.be/SB8jZVLuBCs?si=GSlMlKqBVuROT5tZ

Basically Energizing Shot double stacks when used on both regulators/dex pixia and regular pistol

[gusty turtle]

Lizzie is aoe. It's just ignis.

[willow bluff]

Aight then, that makes sense why no primary got Mending Shot.

[silver breach]

Why does Nourish sound like Wally

Grendel is the man in the wall confirmed

[willow bluff]

However it doesn't triple stack with companion weapon.

[gusty turtle]

I think its supposed to be stomach growling

[willow bluff]

"UwU" is what I've been told.

[gusty turtle]

But it also sounds like a guttural uwu

[willow bluff]

I guess cuteness is guttural.

[gusty turtle]

Vore-

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[willow bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/potc-jack-sparrow-pirates-of-the-carribean-pirate-johnny-depp-gif-5587700

[gusty turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/vor-captain-vor-warframe-grineer-grineer-might-gif-17779048868669649915

[willow bluff]

Peek-a-boo!

[random solstice]

you guys reckon - fire rate on verglas is bad?

[willow bluff]

It is but I wonder if reinforced bond counters it.

[random solstice]

it might actually

[devout burrow]

bad negative and no crit chance

pretty bad verglas riv

[random solstice]

what would you say i aim for. cc+ fire rate+

[willow bluff]

CC is least requirement

[devout burrow]

CC is mandatory
then wanted positives are FR, MS, CD, SC, Element

[willow bluff]

I was happy with CC CD and never tried rerolling more.

Maybe tomorrow.

[devout burrow]

2 statter with negative is best case scenario for 257% CC (iirc) threshold so you dont need to slot crit delay

[random solstice]

crit delay is a bit of a hinder

[willow bluff]

Honestly I'll still use another crit mod coz it doesn't reach 100% anyway

[silver breach]

Longbow Sharpshot is additive right?

[willow bluff]

Nope
Multiplicative

[silver breach]

oh damn multi

even better thanks

[willow bluff]

IDK if it double dips DoTs though

Unlike melee careen.
I also don't know if secondary surge double dips DoTs either

[fresh cairn]

can anyone join me for the profit taker questline?

[rugged shore]

Honestly just go public at least one guy will just solo carry the group

[willow bluff]

There was a time when a noob volt misunderstood me and left

This was what I was doing:
https://youtu.be/1fkPFF48y3A?si=--nYcA3QlepZUJqO

Volt thought I was not doing anything up the tower.

[willow bluff]

(this was not an optimized run)

[red holly]

those are very... festive colors

[willow bluff]

I'm sure the floating cloud above my head will take most attention anyway

Besides, the ones with most striking colors are the most poisonous ones

• Saryn Protoframe

[unique pond]

Hi gugs i was wandering what in your opinion Is Better have on the ocucor riven

[willow bluff]

Multishot is mandatory

[unique pond]

And also effect or no?

[willow bluff]

effect?

[unique pond]

Yes like heat, cold, and so on

[willow bluff]

I guess having a combination of cold and toxin to avoid extra modding can help making viral heat easy.

[unique pond]

Ok

[willow bluff]

My ocucor riven is just viral + fire rate with no negative and I stopped rerolling

In this case u can stop trying coz it'll be very difficult to roll multishot together

[unique pond]

Ok ok thx

[willow bluff]

Unless u have lots of kuva then u can try

[coarse basin]

selling?

[unique pond]

Nope

[coarse basin]

ok crit dmg multishot dmg fire rate crit chance

if you really want you can get statuses to save modding space too

[unique pond]

Ok thx

[leaden spade]

PSA: Teshin sells 210k Kuva per week 🙂

[lofty garden]

250k

unless someone changed the value of 25x10000

[leaden spade]

Oh right it’s 25 purchases, I keep thinking 21 for some reason

I just hit the down arrow every week and buy him out lol

(Which happens tonight! 🎉 )

[willow bluff]

Blame arcane events

[leaden spade]

That’s why!! Thanks lol

[old tundra]

how do i even start making money from fishing?

[glad tusk]

Uhh trade in rare fish?

Im assuming norgs are probably gonna net a bit more since funni goldfish

[willow bluff]

I don't think I ever caught a norg.

[lofty garden]

Wow, glad I waited until 2017 to play: https://youtu.be/7LwlCFba_4E?si=J4bSp1eUxWVWjurt

[keen lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-girl-same-eye-roll-sassy-gif-17493564

[willow bluff]

Glad I started after Reb took over control.

(2022)

[keen lintel]

specifically Aug 2017. after that open world update

[willow bluff]

I've heard Veilbreaker update changed a lot of things.

[lofty garden]

Don’t think there were any radical changes, other than shards.

[willow bluff]

Augment rework?
Revenant Prime with mesmer skin change?
IDK about the news of that time.

[lofty garden]

those are just frame-specific revisits

[zinc apex]

I keep trying to do thermia fractures and end up having to solo them, why domy abilities stop working(wukong) iron staff and defy abilities for reference

[glad tusk]

Jade shadows and element rework?

[willow bluff]

I only remember my new player experience as I joined some weeks before Veilbreaker so the login screen still had Angels of the Zariman theme and then Veilbreaker arrived with cool login music and free styanax becoming my starter and then I farmed exodia Contagion from nauberus.

[glad tusk]

Along side the shift from armor to health scaling for enemies

[lofty garden]

veilbreaker was way before all that

[zinc apex]

Man i started like a month ago but im still gonna watch that video

[willow bluff]

The old state of DE was player punishing from what I see right now.

[lofty garden]

not really

[willow bluff]

Not everyone, but definitely the DEvs were divided.

Like even the comment section is specially talking about one person (can't say the name coz rules)

[lofty garden]

it was rougher around the edges. empyrean launching with no AI crew is a good example

ooof, no vacuum in soulframe…

[willow bluff]

Eventually that will be the case if it turns into genocidal game.

Has it been 1 year of Soulframe?

[glad tusk]

Would be really funny if Soulframe had vacuum and it basically dominated the statistics in use rates

[south knoll]

Do Hydroid need equilibrium?

[willow bluff]

Seriously, all they have to do is to give a default pickup radius universally.
Even in warframe.
Like they eventually gave a universal enemy radar.

[glad tusk]

Never underestimate how much players are willing to go for QOL looting

[willow bluff]

I look at other games for this basic comparison

[willow bluff]

Remove the word looting, and it's still a correct sentence

I even had an idea.

In future endgame players should have a game mode where you play 2 kinds of missions like "training montage" where you train your warframes to passively boost upto 50% casting speed and 50% parkour velocity (let us have a slider to adjust it by ourselves).

That gets rid of the compulsory Parkour velocity shards people got used to on all frames. Or casting speed shards which some frames demand as mandatory.

Let the mission only boost those stats for the frames u played with. That way u have trained ur frame's reflex.

[gusty turtle]

I have an idea

More random loadouts

[glad tusk]

Random equip button would be neat

[marsh linden]

Thermia fractures depending on the number of canisters sometimes "burp" special effects
Among them are colossal nulifier bubbles, radiation fields, explosive versions of those mini spider enemies, and i think there was another thing i camt remember

[gusty turtle]

Shuffle mods/arcanes too

Both on the frame and on the weapons

Walking into the field with recharge delay persistence Hildryn