gameplay-discussion

[lusty trellis]

Yeah which is stupid

[tranquil kayak]

I wonder why

Maybe it's for technical reasons

[lusty trellis]

But there is so many other abilities that do the sane thing nidus does

Like wisp and orberon

[tranquil kayak]

Ravenous adds and modifies textures inside of its range.

He was added in 2016

[lusty trellis]

I hope they rework in the future

[tranquil kayak]

My guess is average PCs of the time, and the consoles (PS4, Xbox One) wouldn't be able to handle such massive graphical changes and additions at high ability ranges, so they capped it to mitigate that

Ten years later, they could probably just remove the cap and it might be fine

Bearing in mind they've totally screwed themselves putting the game on Switch if this was the original reason for capping it

[lusty trellis]

I hope they rework him so he can have the same health and armor as Quovex and where he has infested allys

[tranquil kayak]

Me personally, I'd accept them removing the texture modification aspect and the growths that span across surfaces if it meant Nidus' 4th ability could have its range adjusted.

[lofty garden]

Oberon and Wisp do not generate summons.

[marble rover]

Honestly the fact they have the game running this well on old gen consoles makes me scared of DE

[gusty turtle]

They were one of the people behind the original unreal engine

[marble rover]

Obviously it isn’t perfect

But all things considered it isn’t bad

[lofty garden]

Be scared of Dmitri 🙂

[gusty turtle]

There's a lot of brainpower and dedication

[lusty trellis]

I hope he is the next or second rework character

[marble rover]

I can think of a few games that could benefit from their talents

WoT console chief among them

[lusty trellis]

Loki should also be soon to

[lofty garden]

Nidus is fine.

[gusty turtle]

Loki doesn't need a rework :(

He's perfectly functional

[lofty garden]

Loki is also fine.

[marble rover]

Loki does his intended job pretty damn well

[lusty trellis]

His pick rate is so I low its crazy and everything he can do companions can do better

[lofty garden]

He got a mild refresh recently

[gusty turtle]

Pick rate doesn't equal power

[lusty trellis]

No but when there is companions who can do half his kit its crazy and his passive being bad to

[gusty turtle]

Yeah but consider having a companion that does something he doesn't

[marble rover]

Plenty of good frames are pushed to the side because the playerbase just copies youtuber builds

[gusty turtle]

Lol

[marble rover]

Ivara too. Everyone just sees her as “the spyframe” when she can do this

[lusty trellis]

Loki kit isnt even that good his passive is wall latch he can swap places with people, he can go invisible he place a decoy that can be destroyed quick and his 4 that jams weapons is a mod that can be put on a weapon

[marble rover]

Put mind control over swap

Boom. Invincible decoy

[lusty trellis]

With Ivara you can put cyte 09 invisible on hers and she is actually pretty good

[marble rover]

You lose a beefy headshot multiplier doing that

[lusty trellis]

But you dont get slowed dont have to worry about drain, you can stay invisible as long as you get head shots and she can use that arcane where she gets a 3x final crit multiplier

[marble rover]

Drain isn’t an issue with duration

Besides. Why wouldn’t i stack crepuscular with her headshot bonus?

[lusty trellis]

And with cyte ability you can shoot anything and not come out of invisible

[lofty garden]

Ivara is excellent as she is. I do not use her for situations where there is headshot fodder.

[lusty trellis]

Yes you lose the head shot but you gain so many benefits its crazy

[marble rover]

You don’t need to move with ivara though. She has her critwires

And a second invisibility ability that allows you to shoot whatever

[silver breach]

yeah ive got a few ideas for at least a "tweak rework".

First of all, I dont think Noise Arrow has any place in present Warframe. They can replace it with something actually useful, maybe even a "damage" arrow? so her 1 can be used regardless of whatever build you use on her. Dashwire, Sleep and Invis arrow all have their own Niches

Second, I think its time we allow Ivara to Parkour even in Prowl. While I personally dont mind that her 3 gets interupted when we slide, sprint, bullet jump etc (since ive gotten used to it with practice and adjusting my own playstyle), its definitely not helping her public opinion. EDIT: just make Prowl take more energy when Parkouring

Third I think is just buff Artemis bow imo. Other Exalteds just kill much more efficiently. Maybe allow Concentrated Arrow to still explode even without hitting weakpoints? Precision Headshots definitely arent for everyone. It would still have the inherint downside that it would deal less damage because youre not hitting the weakpoint anyway.

This is ofc assuming DE only do a "minor update". If they plan to actually do a full major rework, then its out of my hands, and I just hope DE cook

[lusty trellis]

You put that over her old 1

[glad tusk]

I keep thinking of the Delivery Boy from armored core 6, just a flying rocket raining bombs

[marble rover]

First and foremost Navigator gets changed to not scale on negative duration

[marble rover]

Just…..casually forgetting about cloak arrows i see

[silver breach]

yeah that too, I never really felt too bad about that personally since I was still hitting in the 500m-1b range even with that limitation, but yeah I can see that happening too

[marble rover]

Which also give status immunity with the augment

[lusty trellis]

You can use that on allies and just use cyte ability

Or throw it on your companion

[halcyon sentinel]

Ugh the race to get the feverspine board is the absolute worst

[marble rover]

Even if they remove the damage ramp up scaling with duration entirely

So it’s locked at 1x increase/s

[lusty trellis]

And again you only lose 2 things being able to steal loot and head shoot but you gain movement, can stay invisible forever dont have to worry about drain from that, can use any weapon and not lose stealth, and can use other arcanes or archon shards to make up for that headshot

[silver breach]

yeah they should really add a "starting multiplier" based on strength, for weapons that dont like being flown for too long.

Like I like flying the Grimoire for long, but I dont share the same opinion for glaives personally

[marble rover]

Even if it was just a 2x buff

[silver breach]

yeah that would help tremendously ngl

[gusty turtle]

ivara has a cool hat helmet...

[silver breach]

she sure does

[lusty trellis]

I wonder if they are going to buff vauban since he is getting a skin

[gusty turtle]

does he seriously need a buff

[silver breach]

oh thats definitely a possibility

an Heirloom skin is no joke

[gusty turtle]

he already does everything well

[marble rover]

Why the hell would they buff vauban?

[gusty turtle]

he is like one of the best casters in the game

[marble rover]

Literally

That’s like buffing protea

[gusty turtle]

Rhino didnt get a buff/rework with his heirloom so

no reason for Vauban to

[lusty trellis]

Imagine being able to lift overgaurd enemys

[silver breach]

I can maybe changing somethings from his 1

[lusty trellis]

That would be funny

[marble rover]

His 1 does funny stuff

[gusty turtle]

like all cc frames overguard shall ruin him

its a rule

unless you are qorvex

[marble rover]

Or Protea

[silver breach]

maybe even change some stuff with his 2

[marble rover]

Yes i class her as a CC frame with her augments

[gusty turtle]

yeah wont argue with that

her 1 is good at locking enemies

[marble rover]

No forget her 1

[silver breach]

Flachette orb is pretty much the only thing I see people use for minelayer

[lusty trellis]

I made a build for qorvex called infinite energy where I put that new arcane that gets rid of shield and use hunter adrenaline and im always getting energy back

🤣

[marble rover]

Her 2 with augments is terrifying

[gusty turtle]

because they have no idea how to play him because they copy a random build they saw on yt

[marble rover]

Her 1 does FA damage

[gusty turtle]

like not many people even know ALL his damage options scale with lvl

even his 3

[silver breach]

this

[lusty trellis]

I do like his 3rd

[marble rover]

Most people don’t even know he has a 3 thanks to slop builds

[silver breach]

its actually crazy

[lyric lotus]

Two frame most or dare i say 98% of the player base ignores entirely, is Vauban and Limbo, both are great frames but they both need some thought to play em.

[gusty turtle]

like the only thing id like to see for Vauban

is the jump pad return, because Nokko stole it

[marble rover]

Limbo is god tier to have on a team of casters

[lusty trellis]

Limbo is fine its just the players

[lyric lotus]

in good hand, limbo is unstoppable.

[vague falcon]

Maybe the Heirloom will be that for Vauban.

[lusty trellis]

I hate it when people dont understand limbo

[silver breach]

yeah I recently ran a few missions with a random Limbo. it was hella cozy

[gusty turtle]

100% true. He is ugly as hell and heirloom looks badass

people might actually look into him

[vague falcon]

Limbo is like Banshee, its almost like finding a shiny pokemon seeing that

[lusty trellis]

Hey his prime looks sick as hell

😭

[vague falcon]

Like, look at Lavos. The Prime glow up helped him

[gusty turtle]

i am fairly convinced that banshee prime has lower pick rate than excal prime

[silver breach]

funnily ive seen more Limbo players than Vauban Players out in the wild lmao

[gusty turtle]

because his prime's crafting costs are psychotic

[marble rover]

They’ll try, find a day old Vauban “guide” from MHBlacky and subsume something stupid over his 3

[lusty trellis]

Im still working on a build for Vauban I just dont know what I want yet

[lyric lotus]

all i see in my rando squad - THAT EFFIN MONKEY! -_-

[gusty turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/american-dad-roger-smith-clown-its-roger-its-roger-isnt-it-gif-17783426852378864017

its gonna be nourish like most vauban builds

[silver breach]

gatekeeping at its finest

[distant rapids]

real quick im struggling with survival and I'm wondering how I would get the mini life capusles to drop more if possible

[lusty trellis]

Its like the nyx build everyone use that 4th ability mod to survive but I based my nyx of her second and use the secondary arcane for dealing extra dmg to overgaurd to survive

[gusty turtle]

thats not what helped him. They gave him valence formation which singlehandedly made every single person drool over him on paper

but then he is still one of the least picked by FAR

because people are disingenious about all that lavos propaganda

[vague falcon]

Oh yeah, I got him on the resurgence from last year. It was not fun at all.

[halcyon sentinel]

I somehow ended up looking like this while still being able to move like a warframe this is also not what my drifter looks like

[vague falcon]

But it went from never seeing Lavos, to actually seeing him now. But then again I thought Valence Formation was before the prime

[halcyon sentinel]

Is this the base drifter model or something?

[gusty turtle]

i still never see him

[lusty trellis]

My nyx is a gun platform so I have breach surge on first, then I have high strength, and range and I just spread it out and use 4th here and there for dmg buff

[lyric lotus]

i hardly ever see him in circuit

[silver breach]

I mean tbf, people knowing a frame is good, doesnt immediately make the same people want to play said frame

[lyric lotus]

and crash out after one round

[gusty turtle]

lavos is still unpopular as hell, nobody wants to play him despite the vocal majority preaching him for all the wrong reasons

[vague falcon]

the one I never see are Limbo and Banshee, for the most part but I saw Banshe during Perita Rebellion on the weekend

[lusty trellis]

But I do wish they make it where she doesn't lose her overgaurd when in her 4th makes no sense she is invincible

[lyric lotus]

Limbo players are mostly solo, not sure what or why Banshee is not common to see tho

[gusty turtle]

i feel like most limbo just play in solo, organized squads or are treading through star chart

bc Limbo is a free frame with no crafting time

[marble rover]

Because youtubers scare players off from her

[lyric lotus]

his prime looks neat ngl. probably best looking after mesa prime.

[gusty turtle]

garuda is still around the bottom tier for most popular content creators

that says it all

[vague falcon]

Did we get a end of the year resume for the players like we got for 2024?

[gusty turtle]

we will get one soon iirc

[tranquil basin]

43% Impact Coda Hirudo or skip?

[lusty trellis]

When it comes to frames I usually make my own build but when it comes to weapons I usually copy

[marble rover]

Tierlists in general are just ape behaviour

[lusty trellis]

I love the coda throw melee

[vague falcon]

Is not a bad pick if you have spare currency.

Is not particularly necessary either tho

[gusty turtle]

its just Loid in a hat

[lusty trellis]

I want Komei proto skin

I rarley see anyone play her

😭

[silver breach]

Loid is Protolimbo confirmed

[vague falcon]

They probably dislike the altar, from what Ive seen but Garuda is very good.

[gusty turtle]

common players look at those to dictate whats good or not, because they couldnt be asked

they just dont understand how her kit works

[lusty trellis]

I agree with that

[gusty turtle]

and build everything as a gun platform

[marble rover]

I know. But again. They are ape behaviour on the part of the content creators

[gusty turtle]

and even that is bizarre because garuda can be a great gun platform

hell, she can even run Sobek

[marble rover]

And worst of all convince players that frames are only good for specific missions

[strong field]

I think that's just more on how people take the words of content creators as gospel.

[silver breach]

LMAOOOOO yeah intricacies are often lost

[lusty trellis]

I love my orberon build where I can give everyone alot of armor and health regen

[vague falcon]

They are too focused on whats "meta" and whatnot in a pve game in which basically all frames work.

[lusty trellis]

But everyone copys the nuking build for him

[gusty turtle]

its a mixture of both. "This person made a video about it i could never be asked to put effort into it so it must be true"

[silver breach]

yeah its kinda tiring to see people ask whether a frame is good or not now. Like I have to keep saying "all frames are good"

[marble rover]

https://youtu.be/3-j26r5KCtk?si=z8cGlgf9gTPzBddX

[woeful zinc]

might not be the place for it but has anyone experienced the bug on the kalymos/legacytes steel path not being able to extract after defeating three of them?

[strong field]

I would never yuck someone's yum but you can't blame me for feeling yucky when some people genuinely feel that nuking is the go-to way one should play Warframe.

[gusty turtle]

those people are rare

[marble rover]

No. Not even slightly

[vague falcon]

They also put too much enfasis on being able to go to level cap and stuff when most of the time you wont even be doing that.

[marble rover]

Go into a public fissure and say that again

[gusty turtle]

we have to remember that the game is balanced around and for people who never engage in a community and their only line of communication is asking "whats the best weapon" in trade chat

[heady copper]

enfasis

[gusty turtle]

they play solo, always

[strong field]

The average player won't even run an hour.

[gusty turtle]

average player put 10 forma into kuva karak with 25% impact

[silver breach]

yeah most people wont even see level 1k 95% of the time

[strong field]

This is the new Zariman weapon.

[gusty turtle]

they try coop once or see a video online

[vague falcon]

I have a friend that has been playing for much longer than me and he doesnt even do the ETA or EDA

[gusty turtle]

and first thing they do is ask "how do i nuke"

[vague falcon]

Imagine void cascade

[silver breach]

this is my new gospel now

[marble rover]

Warframe has stopped being about teamplay and is more about competing with your teammates. Which is just stupid

[vague falcon]

I was trapped once like this on Hollvania, but I do not remember if it was the Kalymos contract.

[gusty turtle]

yeah, and every single meta discussion just spirals into a pissing contest

[strong field]

I honestly believe comparing among Warframes is like comparing squats and pushups.

Even if they have a smidgen of similarity.

[silver breach]

insert unmentioned subconscious need to be the first one at the extract point LMAO people literally make it a race

[strong field]

"Inaros or Nidus" as if these two don't functionally vary.

[marble rover]

Like……just play who you like. Don’t just go for whats meta

[woeful zinc]

currently at the "extraction" area but it won't let me end the game

[gusty turtle]

i wouldnt be against people who want to play the best, but oftentimes they interject in every topic and turn it into that same pissing contest

but anyways, doesnt matter

back to my metaphorical basement

[vague falcon]

Yeah, that happened to me. The host had to leave in order for the quest to debug, super annoying.

[strong field]

I saw a Harrow guide and I was excited to see what they can offer. As they proceed to give him 5 Violet Archon shards with the +45% Elec Primary damage.

[woeful zinc]

yea just did it solo for the second time and it still wont let me

[vague falcon]

Ok, that one is new for me

[marble rover]

There’s a difference between wanting to be optimal and not knowing how to play outside of it

[silver breach]

sigh ive seen it all too many times

[gusty turtle]

reminds me of someone showing a clip from a recent tier list of one of the slop youtubers

[woeful zinc]

literally just standing here and it even says extract

[gusty turtle]

and they said "best buff harrow can give to his teammates is nourish"

[strong field]

I also am very on the fence about subsuming as a whole.

[glad tusk]

I just wanna play my weapon platform mirage and i can't maintain conditionals because a Hildryn is clearing entire rooms

[silver breach]

"techrot explodes on death" bounty is bugged

[woeful zinc]

ah man

[vague falcon]

I have been there, but in a squad and when everyone left it fixed and let me extract.

[glad tusk]

Lmao

[woeful zinc]

finally got to this part to farm the standing but it wont let me

[silver breach]

for now, when you see a bounty that says "techrot explode on death" just leave, and do a different bounty

[strong field]

Barely can watch any Harrow guides in peace when all I see is Pillage, Thermal Sunder and Evade.

[vague falcon]

Someone told me that Harrow was only worth using for headshot gameplay only, back when I started the game a few years ago.

[woeful zinc]

ah i see thanks!

[glad tusk]

Evade at least is understandable if you you're chasing crit dmg

[strong field]

Like why can't we not just respect more base kit gameplay.

[gusty turtle]

im honestly not against subsumes if you have a frame whose toolkit can be self sustained by other means more reliably. Like DR on Citrine or Blood Altar on Garuda.

Some frames support multiple playstyles and when one of those tools becomes redundant for a diff playstyle its nice to have a subsume slot

[silver breach]

LMAOOO I barely headshot with Harrow with my bad aim.

[vague falcon]

I have terrible aim too, so it kinda made me not look into the frame for a while

[strong field]

I'm not against the idea of subsuming.

I'm just not a fan when people say that subsuming is the default way to play a Warframe.

[glad tusk]

Doesn't harrow literally have an aimbot in the form of his speargun lmao?

[marble rover]

Because youtubers have convinced the whole playerbase that no frame’s base kit is viable

[gusty turtle]

have you seen harrow tutorial by SajinKahn?

guy doesnt even provide builds for the entirety of that one hour and 40 minutes long video

[silver breach]

It depends if people use his Speargun

I dont

[glad tusk]

You don't subsume because you don't like it on principle

I don't subsume cause im too lazy to farm a second copy of the warframe

[silver breach]

yeah that was a real guide ngl

[strong field]

Just run Harrow with maxed duration and you can infinitely run red crits.

[silver breach]

ive seen the video

[vague falcon]

I subsume to get my warframe slot back for another frame I want

[gusty turtle]

i subsume to have vial rush on anyone who has a viable helminth slot

we sliding

[vague falcon]

I use that one on Nyx

[silver breach]

I like subsuming, since I like having 5+ builds on frames I like hehehe

[strong field]

Like my principle is more "sell me on the base ice cream first before you ask me to consider other flavors."

[gusty turtle]

its nice that most of the modern frames have been very well rounded

[vague falcon]

true

Most I dont even feel like subsuming at all

[strong field]

I am stuck on playing Harrow. I just like him a lot.

[gusty turtle]

i can understand it

[strong field]

Just my chain man and my Dual Tox Incarnon.

[glad tusk]

I still won't forgive the Kengineer for subsuming Nokko's 3rd

[marble rover]

Subsuming ruined protea

[vague falcon]

Nokko is a frame I wouldnt give a subsume

[gusty turtle]

before release Nokko's 4th had less damage and 3rd doubled it for the duration

[marble rover]

And nokko

[gusty turtle]

i think they shouldve kept that

[strong field]

It's a good thing you can only subsume one ability.

I could not imagine the amount of slop guides you'd get if every ability was subsumable.

[glad tusk]

Temporal anchor should've automatically paused or rewind her turret's duration

[gusty turtle]

there have also been much more limitations lately

[vague falcon]

I wanna try using Banshee subsume, sounds overkill on certain frames, but it should be fun

[gusty turtle]

like you cant put buffs on uriel unless its over his 3rd

[marble rover]

Obviously. Any more than that and you aren’t playing that frame anymore

[glad tusk]

4 roars

[strong field]

Only recently have I started to run Pillage Harrow.

[gusty turtle]

4 omamori

[strong field]

Still feels like Harrow so I don't mind the switch up.

[strong field]

❌
ah dang it
❌
ah dang it
❌
ah dang it
💲💲💲
i can't stop winning
❌
ah dang it

[glad tusk]

I know it would be a technical nightmare, but i wish koumei's subsume was just her dice

[vague falcon]

The subsume is the amulets, right?

[glad tusk]

Its her defensive iirc

So yeah

[silver breach]

ive been playing Pillage Harrow for a while, idk I just prefer having the armor strip over Condemn's CC. Also since Pillage scales off Duration instead of Range, I can just forgo range on the build altogether imo. High Strength and high Duration.

Dont get me wrong, I love condemn too, ive got multiple loadouts for both abilities

[gusty turtle]

yeah omamori

[strong field]

Honestly my only issue running this build is survivability.

On my normal Condemn build, I carry Rolling Guard.

[silver breach]

tho Condemn being a 1 handed casting ability definitely feels way more smooth, than Pillage having to stop what youre doing every so often lmao

[gusty turtle]

i run harrow with max range and tribunal

mostly playing in coop i just throw condemn in a hallway and my allies do the job for me

[strong field]

I will always love Harrow for making the Trumna viable.

[gusty turtle]

while max range shares my flat crit with them

[silver breach]

I always run Rolling Guard for either. (I pretty much run rolling guard for all my builds lmao)

[strong field]

Genuine only downside of Harrow is how easy Toxin just wipes him.

[glad tusk]

That's like, half the roster lmao

[gusty turtle]

toxin is the common enemy of shield frames

[silver breach]

lmao

[strong field]

Arcane Expertise on Harrow is quite an experience.

[vague falcon]

I should just get Harrow out of the foundry it seems

[silver breach]

i dont have any specific opinion on expertise right now. Ive just treated it as a different form of Primed Redirection

either you use one, or the other

[gusty turtle]

something something diminishing returns

[silver breach]

please explain your thoughts

[strong field]

Just seems fun is all. For the sake of experimentation.

[silver breach]

yeah i get that

[strong field]

Because if not I'm just running Molt Augmented/Molt Efficiency.

[marble rover]

I think we should take the helminth out back

[strong field]

What other Arcanes on base Harrow do people go with?

[silver breach]

im pretty boring, and just go Avenger ngl. Pretty cookie cutter

oh wait i just had a thought, Circumvent sounds really nice

[strong field]

May as well pair that with Careen and so how crazy things get.

[marble rover]

Just give harrow frostbite

[silver breach]

Circumvent allows me to armorstrip, so I can keep Condemn

[marble rover]

Frostbite + careen

[strong field]

Doesn't Condemn proc Arcane Ice Storm for some odd reason?

Or has that been fixed.

[marble rover]

I think?

[silver breach]

I also know about Ice storm, but idk it didnt feel right to me. But with Careen, it might now

[marble rover]

I think most lockdown abilities proc it

Possibly even Oraxia’s

[lusty trellis]

@gusty turtle since you know alot about vauban how did you build him

[silver breach]

like I always say, it depends

[lusty trellis]

The way mine is build is for high armor and health so I make use of his 4th and use his second for dmg buff

I have all umbra mods 2 range mods arcane battery and arcane that removes shield

[silver breach]

oh health tank vauban, thats quite inresting indeed

im more of a shield tank, or shieldgate vauban myself

[lusty trellis]

For the range mods I use archon stretch so I can use his first to get energy back

That way I can use my abilities and not worry to much about energy since I have the aura that regenerate health and energy,I have zen and I have that mod

Then for archon shards I use all strength

[silver breach]

damn not even a single casting shard? youre bold

[lusty trellis]

Since I use archon stretch and that other range mods for 90 but minus 60 strength

[lusty trellis]

I dont worry about overgaurd since I use the arcane that does 8times dmg

So I can use get rid of it and kill them

Sadly I got rid of my 3rd and used roar

So I can make use of the second ability dmg increase and roar

[silver breach]

actually can someone explain to me what "number of charges" means for Vauban's Tesla Nervos?

[lusty trellis]

For companions I use the helmet charger so it scales off my health and armor spreads toxic and can heal me

And I heal it when I use melee

[lyric lotus]

like the name helmet charger

[lusty trellis]

And for melee Im going to try to use the coda throwing weapon with all status so I can put all status and kill them

[lusty trellis]

I cant spell 😭

[lyric lotus]

nuh it's good! keep calling it like that

[lusty trellis]

Helminth Charger

[lyric lotus]

Helmet charger

[lusty trellis]

But since it spread toxin and corrosion it helps prime

[lyric lotus]

those toxic bois are fun

[lusty trellis]

For guns I use burston prime incarons build for headshots and secondary still trying to find a good one

Here is mine coda throwing melee

Not made for dmg just to spread

[lyric lotus]

Epitaph prime

fun weapon to use.

[lusty trellis]

For secondary im thinking of using a incaron one

[lyric lotus]

i am trying to get away from incarnons...

[lusty trellis]

Ps this is my old build that's why you see the umbra mods

[late vessel]

It'll be hard charging up incarnon when enemies is constantly ragdolled by vortex

[lusty trellis]

I rarely use that i just use the lift part

But my new build has slash, impact, corrosion, viral,puncture, heat, magnetic, and radiation

[thorny gate]

I dont understand why excal prime was limited

[gusty turtle]

2 cast speed shards, 3 duration shards

works for me

oops, arcanes are energize and molt augmented/hot shot if you are feeling spicy

[lusty trellis]

What do you think about my build

[gusty turtle]

where

[lusty trellis]

Im not at my console so I cant take a picture

[lusty trellis]

But I said it up here

[gusty turtle]

and subsumes are either

omamori, roar, or pyrotechnics(the fun one)

[lusty trellis]

I use roar so I can use the second ability dmg increase and that

[silver breach]

does hot shot work with Flachette Orb?

[gusty turtle]

yep

[silver breach]

holy

[lusty trellis]

Really

[gusty turtle]

hot shot makes the flechette red crit

[lusty trellis]

Show proof

[silver breach]

Ive been using Avenger, and I have felt really disgusted using it. It didnt feel right

[strong field]

I've found a lot of joy running Blast Elec Influence Nepheri.

[lusty trellis]

My build is a health tank and made for spreading status and buffing weapons

[gusty turtle]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Universal_Weapon_Bonuses

nails have a base 50% crit chance

hot shot is a universal additive buff

so it supercharges their crit into oblivion

[lusty trellis]

I forgot what hot shot does

[gusty turtle]

Gain 6% weapon Critical Chance for 10s, when using abilities to inflict Heat Status effect on enemies. Maximum 50x stacks.

you can offload that to pet abilities or in my case use pyrotechnics

vauban can supercharge pyrotechnics as well

[lusty trellis]

Sadly I dont think I can use that for mine

Mine is works together if I remove one of the arcanes might not work well

[gusty turtle]

pyrotechnics hit multiple times on ragdolled enemies

and he is the king of ragdolling enemies

[lusty trellis]

I use the arcane that removes shield and the arcane that gives energy based off armor

[gusty turtle]

plus his buffs from 3 and passive are multiplicative

[gusty turtle]

makes sense

[lusty trellis]

I need 1 or 2 umbra formua to finish mine but You dont get those often

[silver breach]

@gusty turtle so what kind of damage buff does Overdriver give?? is it like additive to weapon mods? or is it like multiplicative like Exclipse? How does it work with Eclipse?

[gusty turtle]

its roar

[silver breach]

wtf!?

[gusty turtle]

yep

[silver breach]

ITS ROAR!?

[gusty turtle]

its just roar

[silver breach]

HOW HAVE I NOT KNOWN THIS!?

WHY ISNT ANYONE SAYING THIS

ok youre the goat

[lusty trellis]

So these are the mods and stuff I use all umbra mods 2 range blind rage, fortitude, and prime duration, arcanes I use arcane battery and the one that removes shield then I use all strength archon shards and for aura I use the one that heal me and give energy

[late vessel]

Stacks Additively with roar?

[gusty turtle]

i think its coded a bit differently

[lusty trellis]

The range mods are archon stretch and the agur range

Wait I made a mistake I meant the range mod that gives 90 and lowers strength by 60 instead of the agur range

[silver breach]

so youre telling me we can functionally have both roar (overdriver) and eclipse in a build.....

[lusty trellis]

This is my full build thoughts

[silver breach]

that just sounds insane to me

[gusty turtle]

its a bit different in that it doesnt work for abilities unlike roar

but on weapon coded abilities it still works

[silver breach]

yeah thats fair, but on weapons, its the same

damn thats crazy

[gusty turtle]

its a multiplicative damage bonus that is also multiplicative with roar

[cloud jacinth]

Does uriel's flight count as rolling for arcane circumvent?

[late vessel]

Hmm breach surge vauban thoughts?

[lusty trellis]

Thats why I use it and roar so my guns and melee do more that also why I have high strength

[silver breach]

try and test it out, if you get overguard while flying, then it works

since it works with parkour shards

[cloud jacinth]

Tru..

[gusty turtle]

his passive meanwhile also works on abilities

[lusty trellis]

To be honest I keep forgetting about his passive

[tranquil kayak]

I fear they're gonna have to cut support for old gen and Switch soon if performance in new yearly content keeps going the way it does

[silver breach]

his passive also works on his guns right?

[lusty trellis]

[late vessel]

Tf vauban can have 3 different source of roar?

[gusty turtle]

yes

[silver breach]

jesus christ

[tranquil kayak]

1999 has minor performance dips. Perita, I go from 120+ down to 40-60fps

[late vessel]

I must farm cryotic right this instance

[gusty turtle]

and they are multiplicative to each other

[tranquil kayak]

Don't forget the Oxium

[lusty trellis]

So I have 3 dam

[late vessel]

How much do i need for oxium

[lusty trellis]

No wonder why my burston incaron hits high juicy red crits

[gusty turtle]

his passive is 25%, his 3 is 25% at base with str, then he can also slap roar

[tranquil kayak]

My god lmao
Like... over 10k I think

[gusty turtle]

and his damage scales with enemy levels exponentially

so he only needs like half of this to oneshot most enemies

[lusty trellis]

You guys got to admit vauban drip is good the prime version is good

[tranquil kayak]

Ok you need 7000 for Vauban

[silver breach]

yeah 1 shotting level cap enemies is a breeze

[tranquil kayak]

Helps that his base model looks like shit

[late vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-gif-12100055351253481367

[tranquil kayak]

Prime looks like Jensen from Deus Ex

[lusty trellis]

Any good secondary I should use with mine

[silver breach]

yeah I definitely love how his Prime looks. Im hella excited for his Heirloom

[gusty turtle]

vauban prime crafting costs are quite something

[tranquil kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/where-deus-ex-manking-devided-funny-adam-jensen-gif-13310924563596575294

[tranquil kayak]

Oh cool they nerfed it

[silver breach]

good so we can gatekeep him more (joking btw)

[lusty trellis]

The reason why I use that secondary arcane is because it does 8x to overgaurd and I get overgaurd when I do dmg

But I have to get a good secondary tho

[thorny gate]

Is excal prime really that op that they had to make it founder only

[tranquil kayak]

Lyon and Marie both agreed to help reunite Loid with the Entrati at the same time yesterday

[thorny gate]

Cause in old war its not looking that op to me

[silver breach]

no, its just a way for DE to give thanks for the Founders

[tranquil kayak]

Think I'm reaching the culmination of the KIM story

Still waiting for someone to help me reconcile with Marie though

[thorny gate]

So its perma gone

[silver breach]

yes

[thorny gate]

I remember the founder stuff years ago

[tranquil kayak]

Prime frames are literally identical to base frames in every way except appearance and stats. Abilities work exactly the same.

[gusty turtle]

yep. Chinese players didnt even get a chance. They got excalibur umbra prime instead

[tranquil kayak]

Excalibur Prime was a reward for supporting the game but he's not any more powerful than Excalibur base

[thorny gate]

That's cool tho I'd love to see one

[tranquil kayak]

Aside from maybe a little more health? Idk i never checked his stats compared to base Excalibur

[gusty turtle]

he is pretty neat

[silver breach]

question, Eclipse double dips on ONLY Glaive heavy attacks? or just explosions in general? Like it can still double dip if i go with the Falcor Bounce build yeah?

[thorny gate]

Yours?

[gusty turtle]

Nah

just images from wiki

[thorny gate]

Sad

Honestly umbra prime is cooler

[tranquil kayak]

I made mine into Sin Devil Trigger Dante and Vergil

[grizzled hearth]

They should buff Dante

[thorny gate]

Umbra or excal

[tranquil kayak]

Umbra

[gusty turtle]

They should blow up dante

[silver breach]

I regret not getting the tennocon cape soo bad

[thorny gate]

Prime?

[tranquil kayak]

My mango

[tranquil kayak]

Nah Umbra Prime is for CN founders

[grizzled hearth]

Dante needs a buff, dagath always carries him

[tranquil kayak]

Warframe China

[gusty turtle]

You need better material

[tranquil kayak]

But Umbra is visually identical to Umbra Prime

[gusty turtle]

Not really

[tranquil kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-dagath-uma-musume-gold-ship-meme-gif-17993640410726624467

[gusty turtle]

Different helmet and some different embellishments

[tranquil kayak]

It's so beautiful

[grizzled hearth]

Fake, mommy has no face

[thorny gate]

They need to buff excals number 1

[tranquil kayak]

Mogath

[gusty turtle]

Absolute beauty

I hope they give her prime a ghostly face that you can remove with an auxiliary slot

[robust talon]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

Why her face looks liike SPeed lol

[grizzled hearth]

I started playing a week ago, she’s my first frame

And I have now vowed not to get any others

[silver breach]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[thorny gate]

Veso is the undisputed goat

[grizzled hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/alzolanskii-horse-fall-gif-20063219

[gusty turtle]

I think she will be fine if you try others around

Gotta know why you are better than the rest

[grizzled hearth]

Doing 60-70% mission damage in public lobbies with ppl more than 10 MR higher than me tells me that already

[tranquil kayak]

Mr don't mean shit

At minimum it means they've played for 10 days more than you have because you can only rank up once per day

It stops mattering after 16 because everything is unlocked after that

[grizzled hearth]

It means they have stuff unlocked tho and access to stuff, I’m MR 6 so I can’t even use most weapons or any rivens

[gusty turtle]

I think it only starts mattering at around mr22 and up

You actually have to grind a lot for further ranks

But the only thing that it means is

They bothered to grind stuff, not that they know the game

[gusty turtle]

What are you using? What missions?

[grizzled hearth]

Dagath

Missions with enemies lvl 60-100

[thorny gate]

You play Skyrim dont you

[grizzled hearth]

With broken war as a melee + caster

[gusty turtle]

Sounds fair to me

[silver breach]

@gusty turtle would it be ok if you could share your vauban build? I want to get a feel at what mods youre using

[grizzled hearth]

Ok I took a melatonin 25 mins ago imma pass out now

[gusty turtle]

2 tau cast speed, 3 tau duration

Arcanes are either molt augmented or hot shot and energize

Subsumes are either Omamori or Pyrotechnics, sometimes roar

When not Pyrotechnics, heat is offloaded to pets

[silver breach]

yeah I was thinking about Vigilante Vigor and Fast Deflection for the defenses too. Im so over Catalyzing Shields Brief Respite ngl

[gusty turtle]

Augur mod on a secondary for comfort

Vigorous Swap is multiplicative on flechettes if you suddenly need a dmg burst

[silver breach]

yeah I know about Vigorous Swap

[gusty turtle]

That's pretty much it

[silver breach]

hows the energy sustain on that?

[gusty turtle]

I subsume over 3, but nothing is stopping you from base kit

[gusty turtle]

Energize usually takes care of it

Good duration and everything dies anyway for quite a bit

[silver breach]

oh right you said you used energize

[viscid whale]

how do I deal with DoT procs as mesa, they don't get reduced by shatter shield right

[gusty turtle]

@silver breach do mind that I consider endurance runs for my builds

So I could always drag whoever I need into a long cascade pub

[silver breach]

yeah thats totally fine. I do like my builds to be endurance viable

[gusty turtle]

I'm not very good at optimizing builds though

Fass Grimoire could be a great option also

Oh yeah

@silver breach you know about the scourge interaction?

[silver breach]

no actually, please explain

[gusty turtle]

You know how it creates a bullet attractor right

[silver breach]

yeah

[gusty turtle]

You know what flechettes are

[silver breach]

yeah

[gusty turtle]

Scourge makes flechettes headshot

[silver breach]

oh shit ok ok im in your wavelength

damn so its basically a weapons platform....without actually using your weapons lmaooo

[gusty turtle]

Yep

Every single orb also counts as a weapon shot

[silver breach]

damn and here I thought I couldnt like Vauban even more. Ive learned a ton in these recent few minutes

[gusty turtle]

But each flechette hit counts as a registered dmg instance

So Vauban ends missions with like multiple thousand% accuracy

Because each "orb" bullet hits flechettes many times

[silver breach]

ok thats hilarious

[timber trout]

is dread good for new player or there are better options?

[gusty turtle]

Stalker weapons are very nice, and get even better(some of the best) in lategame

Def worth keeping as a long term investment, at the very least

[cedar sun]

what coda weapon should i get for this rotation

[silver breach]

im probably gonna go with this for now, Im very much a wuss and prefer a lot of defensive options lol

I will 100% keep the scourge interaction in my back pocket. I want to at least get Scourge Prime before I commit.

note I only have 2 casting shards rn

will throw in 1 strength shard, and 2 duration shards later

[cedar sun]

anyone?

im running mesa rn with it

[gusty turtle]

Do you really need both eq and energize

If you have a pet and synth deconstruct, equilibrium is all you're gonna need really

[silver breach]

I havent tested it in a mission just yet, but personally I prefer being uber comfy really

Ill definitely test it out later tho

[gusty turtle]

His dmg scales with level and flechettes don't care for range, so I guess it's a win/win

[silver breach]

I really need to max out Circumvent

[silver breach]

yeah thats what I was thinking, since he can easily scale, Id much rather focus on staying alive and being comfy with energy

[gusty turtle]

Fair enough

[silver breach]

im definitely gonna edit my other builds as well

I made them a long while back, so theyre definitely not as optimal

[thorny gate]

how do i sell a frame

[silver breach]

sell like trade with someone? or sell like remove them from your inventory to make space?

[thorny gate]

remove

[silver breach]

press esc to go to your menu, there should be an "equppment" button

[gusty turtle]

inventory, just select them and press sell

[silver breach]

click that then go inventory

[gusty turtle]

do note to remove the archon shards if you have them

theyll be lost otherwise

[silver breach]

oh yeah remove your archon shards if you have them on

[thorny gate]

i havent gotten to those nore is helmenth open

[gusty turtle]

then just sell, yeah

i did that to valkyr prime that i got from the old peace tennocon reveal

[tender perch]

I love the Prime Vanguard so much. Literal A squad aura farm

[keen lintel]

I wish DE adds these idle anims. Would insta buy Mesa, Ash & Ember ones

[karmic steeple]

guyzzz

maining styanax is good yes?

[silver breach]

Main whoever you like using

You don't need to ask us who you need to main

[karmic steeple]

ehehehhe, i used 30 warframes and kept 13 of them lol

including primes

[silver breach]

That's nice, who do you like playing

[karmic steeple]

i own cyte 09, dagath, umbra, garuda prime, gauss prime, lavos prime, oraxia, protea prime, sevagoth prime, styanax, uriel and xaku prime

but i mostly like lavos prime sevagoth prime dagath and guass

bought styanax yesterday and DAMN he my favs fr

I mostly like nuke and melee focused

[silver breach]

Glad to hear your enjoying the frames. I still need to get my own styanax from chipper. I keep forgetting to do kahl missions

[karmic steeple]

cyte 09 is the only stealth i liked

[karmic steeple]

I TRIED that but his resources demotivated me lol

then i bought him by selling a burston riven

[silver breach]

I personally prefer farming the frames over buying them with plat. That's just me thing. I love interacting with the game systems

Also it saves me plat for cosmetics

[karmic steeple]

i mean eh styanax is teh only frame i bougth for plat lol out of all 30 frames

[silver breach]

Cool cool

[karmic steeple]

fashion frame goes rlly peak sumtimes

[old tundra]

xp, money or drop booster?

[silver breach]

Drop imo

[old tundra]

thx g

[karmic steeple]

drop chance

[old tundra]

aight

[karmic steeple]

yea farm argons and they after 24hrs they will be GON

farm tellerium

[old tundra]

i though that shit was 8 hours

and where to farm tellurium?

[karmic steeple]

u got xaku prime?

[old tundra]

naw

[karmic steeple]

sad

cuz xaku prime wiht drop chance gets u 4 to 5 tellerium in one go at sanctuary onslaught lvl 20 to 30 alone

[old tundra]

should i get xaku prime?

[karmic steeple]

for farming rare materials yes

plus he is easy to learn

only 30p is his set rn

very cheaappppp

[old tundra]

il consider that after i get my gus prim to be absolutely brokenhttps://tenor.com/view/gauss-prime-gauss-warframe-gauss-meme-warframe-meme-gif-13078930774228297629

[old tundra]

buy me xaku prim

[silver breach]

Ok what are you talking about? This is the first time I'm hearing tellerium dropping from sanctuary onslaught

[karmic steeple]

i thought i would regret buying this guy but damn he is actually cool

[karmic steeple]

am broke rn gng

[old tundra]

same lol

[weak pelican]

whats some fun frames in yall opinions i need someone new to get

[karmic steeple]

BEING FR

[old tundra]

THEN HOW U SAY 30p cheap

[karmic steeple]

rn am broke or i can get up to grind 70 to 80 p in one day its not that difficult

[silver breach]

Are you spreading misinformation right now or what? I can't tell

[karmic steeple]

IAM NOT SPREADING

IAM TELLING WHAT I SAW

https://tenor.com/view/batman-gif-5846829

[old tundra]

tell me how

[karmic steeple]

sevagoth

[old tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/gauss-prime-gauss-warframe-gauss-meme-warframe-meme-gif-13078930774228297629

[karmic steeple]

prime junk gng, open 20 to 30 relics at most not that hard

[old tundra]

oh shi been sleeping on that lol

[karmic steeple]

farm endo and useless galvanized mods sell them at max rank at avg 60p

FROM arbitrations

[silver breach]

Can't personally say mine, cuz I'd probably get crucified

[karmic steeple]

it will take 30K endo not that much to max em out

[karmic steeple]

DAMN y

[silver breach]

Because the frames I find fun usually aren't "fan favorites" so I'll just keep to myself

[delicate stag]

getting back into this game after 5 years of absence, didn't really get far past the beginning segments. anyone know where i can find a guide on how weapon/equipment mods work and which ones i should be focusing on? (or if i should just equip things as i go)

[karmic steeple]

noooo, tell who do u main, i wont disrespect,it should be my fav, JS TELLLLL

[old tundra]

why not just get useful galva mods and sell em?

[karmic steeple]

well i started 1 and half yrs ago so

[silver breach]

Imo for now, equip as you go. Youre free to ask questions when you're having trouble with stuff

[karmic steeple]

all galv mods got the same rate at avg 60P if u can check wf market and some1s buying for 70 80 or rarely 90, sure go for it

[old tundra]

noted

[karmic steeple]

@silver breach

[silver breach]

Yeah

Ivara

[karmic steeple]

TELL ME WHO U MAIND

[delicate stag]

appreciate the pointer 👍🏾

[karmic steeple]

or who u use

gng zictive pls

[silver breach]

I already said it

[karmic steeple]

my bad lol

[weak pelican]

what is it lol

[silver breach]

Ivara

[weak pelican]

i see lol

[karmic steeple]

i never liked stealth but after cyte i like ivara as stealth

[silver breach]

Ok so you can now proceed to not play her

[karmic steeple]

cuz damn she actually good

[karmic steeple]

NOOO

I LIKE HER

WHO BULLIED THIS GUYS IN THIS MOST KINDEST SERVER

[silver breach]

What do you mean

[karmic steeple]

gng u said urself that ppl do not prefer the frames u main

[silver breach]

Yeah Ivara has like less than 1% use rate

[karmic steeple]

WOW

[silver breach]

I'm not kidding that's literally her stats

[karmic steeple]

thats so bad

i thought equinox had that much

cuz i never saw equinox user

but she good too

hidden gems fr

[silver breach]

To be fair she probably is too

There's a fair number of frames with below 1% use rate

[karmic steeple]

like how many?

styanax includes too?

cuz i only saw styanax user twice or once

[silver breach]

There's like 23 below Ivara Prime (prime frames btw) kind of hard to include non primes since most people just use the prime versions

So 23 for primes. Way more if we include non primes

[karmic steeple]

DAMN

thats so bad

[silver breach]

That's in the 2024 stats sheet btw

[silver breach]

We don't have the 2025 yet

[weak pelican]

is this good unrolled?

[karmic steeple]

GIMMEEEEEE (i own praedos)

[karmic steeple]

oh

[silver breach]

I mean it's ok

[weak pelican]

im trynna sell it not keep it

ik people like when its unrolled so would it sell if i keep it unrolled or should i try and get good roll?

[karmic steeple]

can i get it for fwee

I love praedos

[weak pelican]

currently trying to get gyre prime or sev prime if i dont get rid of it igu for free

[silver breach]

Depends imo. I personally like rolling rivens then selling them for more, but that's just me

Maybe you prefer just getting the easier plat

[weak pelican]

what’s a nice roll for praedos?

[karmic steeple]

sevagtoh is ig he should be at 40P at the rate, bought him for 30P sum1 sold me cheap

[karmic steeple]

idk the name but imo for me its combo multiplyer and more crit chance

[silver breach]

Probably just the typical CD, CC, elemental, range, attack speed etc.

[karmic steeple]

Praedos never needed speed

[silver breach]

Most people use predios for statsticking anyways

[weak pelican]

yea i use mine for the high combo

[karmic steeple]

yepppp

[silver breach]

You don't put attack speed on your praedos?

[karmic steeple]

lol how much how u go

[karmic steeple]

ion need when i get speed from incarnon

[silver breach]

That's fair

[weak pelican]

get to incarnon then max it then js slam the lobby

and sometimes heavy attack the high hp

[karmic steeple]

HELL YEAH

[karmic steeple]

useful fr

i was planning for kronen prime but sum1 soldme praedos incarnon main for 12p

ezzz

[tranquil kayak]

First 75% off coupon of the year

Lovely

[silver breach]

Ayo I'm jealous

[tranquil kayak]

Hello 2100 platinum, and the unwanted extra mods the bundle gives me lmao

Goodbye ~$27
Worth it

[weak pelican]

do people use harmony?

[silver breach]

Yes

[tranquil kayak]

For the record it's Australian dollars so basically take American dollars and multiply it by 1.5x

[silver breach]

It's very good

[weak pelican]

what’s its riven rolls for it

js got a riv for it’s

[tranquil kayak]

Our economy is going up against Bane Of Strayan Dollar lmfao
1.5x Damage against Australian Bank Accounts

[silver breach]

I mean any good stats with a negative that doesn't affect the weapon. Idk it's pretty self explanatory imo

[weak pelican]

roll this or sell?

[silver breach]

That's pretty good

I personally would roll

[weak pelican]

u think it will sell like this?

roll to what

cd cc?

[silver breach]

Yeah it definitely can

[lyric lotus]

Bro spilled some jam on him

[weak pelican]

what should i try and roll on it

[silver breach]

Yeah just go sell that. It's good enough

Crit chance, multishot and base damage are really amazing stats

[karmic steeple]

PEAK(even tho i never spent money on warframe or any other games)

[karmic steeple]

awwwwhhh thats so good

Lemme show my styanax fashion

[silver breach]

Speaking of fashion, surprised we don't have a dedicated fashion channel

[karmic steeple]

hereee

[karmic steeple]

sad fr

[weak pelican]

hm should i say offer is

[karmic steeple]

everything on his is free

[silver breach]

Idk about the pricing, you have to check it yourself in the market

Just search for the weapon, and put in the stats. Check if other people are selling something similar to yours

[karmic steeple]

OR write and mention ur price in trade chat sum1 might buy it

and wait HOURS

[old night]

four days no internet pluh

[tranquil kayak]

So I just got the last Tektolyst Artefact and I thought of something

Why didn't DE make us do mini-quests with each Tektolyst Artefact?

Like with Nokko and the Undermind? What's the mushroom called again, something Prince?

When you feed it enough stuff and it grows it gives you a Sprodling mini-mission where you go through and experience memories

[old tundra]

should i use umbra forma or not?

[old night]

i missed a lot ;-;

[tranquil kayak]

Why not have us play as Lyon going through the Void, maybe fighting some Murmur along the way, to get the Tektolyst Artefact we bought?

[tranquil kayak]

Depends. What are you putting it on?

[old tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/gauss-prime-gauss-warframe-gauss-meme-warframe-meme-gif-13078930774228297629

[tranquil kayak]

If it's a Warframe, you want one that doesn't otherwise stand to benefit from Archon Intensify

[old tundra]

im using archon vit on gauss

[tranquil kayak]

If it's Gauss, then there's your answer. One Umbral. But only if you have max rank Umbral Intensify

Without the other Umbral mods it's 44% at max, which is still higher than normal Intensify

And Gauss can't self-heal (without a subsume), so Archon Intensify is useless

But then again, do you need extra Strength?

[silver breach]

depends on you

[old tundra]

yesss

[tranquil kayak]

2 and 4 don't scale on Strength. 1 isn't built for damage. You'll only be building based on Thermal Sunder, which wants you to crank Range mainly

[silver breach]

you have to note that umbra forma is a big investment

[old tundra]

more nuke

[silver breach]

you cant go back

[tranquil kayak]

I don't think the game explains this but alternating between hot and cold Thermal Sunder does massive damage and ragdolls enemies

[old tundra]

yeah

[tranquil kayak]

Do a hot into cold for a burst of damage and to suck enemies inward. Reverse to blow them back

[old tundra]

i mean this is like the 2nd reason why i bouhgt

[tranquil kayak]

Aye

[old tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/gauss-prime-gauss-warframe-gauss-meme-warframe-meme-gif-13078930774228297629

[tranquil kayak]

To finish this - if it's a weapon, there's no point. Sacrificial Pressure is weaker even with Sacrificial Steel, than Primed Pressure Point.

And Sacrificial Steel, depending on the weapon and your build, can be outclassed by Galvanised Steel

Galv Steel gives less CC but also a bunch of Critical Damage on kills

[silver breach]

yeah it can be dependent on the build

[tranquil kayak]

Mainly you want to put an Umbral for Sacrificial Steel if you stand to benefit from Melee Duplicate

I have two melee weapons that could, but I need a Rank 7 Sacrificial Steel to get almost exactly 100%

I have a Rank 8 and a Rank 6

It would be nice if we could tweak the mod ranks after ranking them up for each build

Coping that DE do that Soon™

[weak pelican]

u still on?

[boreal pier]

exactly 100% isnt the best for melee duplicate btw

🤓

[silver breach]

im eating but yeah

[weak pelican]

what do i roll for this

and i got a grip more riven do people even use that’s

[silver breach]

ok wow you really have the best weapon rolls huh

dual tox will get you so much plat if you sell it lmao

[frosty kelp]

is there any recommends for a loadout for trying to learn solo eidolon hunting

[weak pelican]

what should i roll on it

[silver breach]

still the same, typical cc, cd, damage, multishot

[frosty kelp]

i have this, would obviously prefer something better than mag capacity**

[weak pelican]

guy js offered me 170 for unrolled

should i roll and throw it back in there?

[frosty kelp]

its a really really good weapon to have a riven for

[silver breach]

id personally roll

[frosty kelp]

i would just roll and keep it for yourself

[silver breach]

it can get waaay more than 170

[opaque hinge]

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1488047-recompense-should-have-small-tweaking-to-be-good/

[noble trail]

Yo

[weak pelican]

my dual tox alr slams but ykw if my other rivs sell imma keep it

[weak pelican]

how much should i sell that praedos one for

[silver breach]

i legit dont know, you can check it yourself in warframe market.

[weak pelican]

ohhhh fg u told me abt that

mbbb

bro guy js jumped to 400 for dual tox mod

i didn’t even get to roll it yet

[urban shore]

gauss is a kind of vehicle that if you try to control will not obey
you need to let this vehicle do what it does best

basically you are not driving gauss
you are driving with gauss

[cold jolt]

yo can someone help me by any chance i somehow got my accout suspended for 14 years and i dont have a clue why. any info would be great

[opaque hinge]

just a heads up: any suspend that last that long is permanent ban

and saying "I don't have a clue" is either lying, or irresponsible (because a lot of ppl said "my friend did it", so please dont use that excuse, it YOUR fault to let them do that)

finally you should be thankful for DE not putting your IP into their blacklist

[chilly jungle]

how do you even get ban 😭

[opaque hinge]

You get banned from Warframe for breaking their Code of Conduct, like using hate speech, harassment, or cheating (exploits, third-party programs), or violating their Terms of Service (ToS), such as real-money trading or promoting unauthorized services, with automated systems often flagging unusual activity from long endurance runs or suspicious trading

(from google AI)

usually hate speech and harassment

[chilly jungle]

how does one cheat in warframe tho ✌️💔

[opaque hinge]

macro

[chilly jungle]

so afking

[opaque hinge]

yeap

[weak pelican]

still up?

[fresh cairn]

hmm.. dilemma..
which to get?

[cold jolt]

toxic much

[opaque hinge]

I'm not, I'm being logical

[cold jolt]

i know u right just not nice

[opaque hinge]

oh so saying the truth is bad now

because I saw too many ppl asking this

[fresh cairn]

no, it's the way it was said that was toxic. : )

[opaque hinge]

which part is it then?

[cold jolt]

yes

[fresh cairn]

the entire thing 🙂

[opaque hinge]

then complain it to the mod to see if I was "toxic"

idc about your opinion

[cold jolt]

hey bro if your gonna be like a discord mod and pick at everything at least dont be mean about it

[opaque hinge]

so sensitive 🤷‍♂️

[cold jolt]

lol

[weak pelican]

what are the desired rolls on a dual tox idk what i’m looking for

[opaque hinge]

need 4 stat, 3 good 1 neg

multishot, 2 crit stat is the best

neg can be magazine or puncture

magazine is much better neg since you will use Incarnon all the time

[weak pelican]

ahhh ok thx

[keen lintel]

Cata coz more weapons than there r WFs, companions & stuff

[opaque hinge]

also fun fact: Zariman incarnon having negative about crit chance is very good too

[weak pelican]

ik it’s not 3 positives and 1 neg but is this good?

[opaque hinge]

only 2 good stat, and no neg so the positive stats are lower that it supposed to be

[fresh cairn]

thx

[weak pelican]

was so close to a good roll

[opaque hinge]

damn

2 mid good stat 😭

[weak pelican]

now 2 good 2 bad bro smh

pain bro pain

so close yet so far

[silver breach]

i mean this works

[weak pelican]

frrrr?

[silver breach]

you think no one will buy a cd cc dual tox riven?

[weak pelican]

true true

[silver breach]

you said that someone was willing to pay 400 unrolled

imagine a cd cc

[weak pelican]

finna gamble some more of this kuva then throw it in trade chat

[mellow basin]

I just start playing this game and I’m wondering Is there a full guild for beginners that walkthrough from the start with every detail? With the recommended equipment and mods and when you upgrade them

[opaque hinge]

try searching in #1202034105899040798

[silver breach]

with his wording I think he might have meant "guide"

not guild

[opaque hinge]

then youtube should have plenty of it

I also intended to say this but just in case I said clan channel first

[weak pelican]

does the corpus make this worst?

[silver breach]

no, the only faction people care about is grineer

-corpus doesnt do anything

(this is because grineer have armor)

[weak pelican]

so i should keep this one or the other one i sent

[opaque hinge]

tbh crit dmg is more important than chance

[weak pelican]

the other one got cc and cd

[opaque hinge]

yeah keep that one

[tranquil kayak]

Eh?

Melee Duplicate only procs on Base Critical Hits (yellow, 0-100%)

so you want to maximise those by getting as close to 100 as possible

[boreal pier]

nah its a trick

the second hit rolls for crits aswell so the best dmg you can get is a yellow and then the second bit goes orange

[tranquil kayak]

Oh cool

[boreal pier]

u can work out the best cc for your weapon using this Ideal Melee Duplicate CC = (3 x CD - 4)/(2 x CD - 2)

so p much dont worry about having diff ranks sac steel

[rain phoenix]

how im supposed to fix this??

[pearl parcel]

Morning int

[pearl parcel]

Resetti spaghetti, wait for the in game year to cycle out

[tranquil kayak]

Bro what did you do?

I pissed Marie off because I took Tagfer's side and then doubled down in the next conversation but we both apologised after

How are you people getting Anathema with the Devil's Triad?

[tranquil kayak]

I just had that conversation today

Though I picked the other option

I doubt she'd block you for that since both options are basically the same

[rain phoenix]

should i just reset or nah?

[tranquil kayak]

So maybe she just has no conversations left and the game does 'Anathema'?

[rain phoenix]

people say its just a bug

[tranquil kayak]

Personally I've never reset with any of the groups. Not even once.

I've aced every single KIM chat

Marie is just pissed at me for taking Tagfer's side. I'm still waiting for Roathe or Lyon to give me the conversation to patch things up with her but I haven't failed anything with her

It's gotta be a bug

[pliant warren]

Does Roar affect Sobek Acid Shells?

[heady copper]

yeah

[gray helm]

akarius prime or epitaph prime or kuva nokor

[pliant warren]

IMO, the Kuva Nukor is the most reliable for general use, Epitaph if you want to prime enemies or really like headshot builds with acuity. Akarius is AoE fun, can knock yourself over though

[heady copper]

be a man get an atomos

[pliant warren]

But it's not the Atomos incarnon cycle 😭

[gray helm]

tysm

i lowkey fw aoe tbh

[pliant warren]

fyi Nukor is AOE-ish (it uses chain beams) or can be made into AoE with secondary Irradiate or blast procs

[gray helm]

for now ima get kuva nokor since i have it as my lich n maybe later on ill get akarius prime

[pliant warren]

Yeah, it's just such a solid weapon, can't go wrong with it

[strong field]

What is the best starter Warframe I should choose when in comes to DPS and movement speed

[heady copper]

volt

[junior skiff]

Is this like the FAQ section?

Does anyone know if (Kuva, tenet, coda) weapons give mastery XP at each level 30, 32... Or only at the final 40?

[pearl parcel]

They give mastery up to 40 yes

[pearl quest]

Upon starting up warframe I get no login with steam button, I am starting the steam version and the game agrees because it has Gordon freeman in it

[pure gulch]

they give MR for every level yes afaik, 200 per forma up to 40

[willow bluff]

FYI Ivara's Navigator doesn't work on Vexoric.

In case anyone else was wondering to test

[pearl parcel]

300

[hybrid gorge]

anyone can help me with index

[pearl parcel]

Weapons give 300 a level, frames give 600 a level

[willow bluff]

anyone can help you with index

[pearl parcel]

The hell is vexoric

[hybrid gorge]

??

[willow bluff]

Naramon Tauron Strike = Vexoric

[pearl parcel]

Oh

[pure gulch]

its 100 MR per level on weapons, and 200 on on frames, up to 3k and 6k, overleveling that level cap is just increased but the MR count is the same, and as forma gives you 2 levels with overleveling, 2*100 MR

[glossy seal]

Bruh, I was able to clean up FIVE whole planets in SP last night. All because of those Interceptions, lol

[willow bluff]

Incursions

[glossy seal]

The only nodes I had left to complete were all interceptions

[willow bluff]

Probably relatable

[glossy seal]

Max range Limbo thankfully came in handy

[willow bluff]

How did u stop eximus?

[glossy seal]

Those are the only ones I had to actively work for - I used circumvent + magnetic dmg to take their overguard, then let them sit in stasis once caught in my bubble

Wherever I saw on YT that killing enemies in intercept made the mission harder... They were 100% right on that

[willow bluff]

Same reason why Nyx is also good

[sick sky]

do resource booster boost steel essence?

[glossy seal]

Big truth - wish we had more content where CC was still relevant

[glossy seal]

If they drop from a unit, yes

[sick sky]

like on survival from maniac

[willow bluff]

In general content CC is nice for survivability considering if there's any eximus being a threat now then u can use arcane circumvent

[formal verge]

what should i get in nightwave as a newbie?

[willow bluff]

Atleast cold and radiation CC works universally

[frosty flint]

Cc is good passive stuff

[glossy seal]

Tbh, circumvent isn't anywhere close to being as good for getting rid of OG as just slapping on magnetic damage on a solid weapon build. It's certainly really nice to have the extra layer of defense if you're going to roll into danger, tho

[willow bluff]

Logically makes sense that the main complaint about CC people had was eximus, so atleast this is one really great way for getting rid of those.

[frosty flint]

No PSF spotted

[willow bluff]

Also, overguard is powerful

[glossy seal]

Interception's enemy spawn limit (and building for not killing everything within 0.2 nanoseconds) made eximus units spawn very little. It was surprising how manageable it is compared to how I felt about solo SP intercepts in the past

[glossy seal]

Yeah, ezpz 10k overguard on any frame is insane

[willow bluff]

I used to think mirror defense was similar

But then found out the more u kill them, the more crystals spawn

However I think there's no disadvantage in keeping enemies alive in labs tileset mirror defense

As long as u can keep the objective alive

[glossy seal]

My only problem with (mirror) defense is not being able to get any rewards you earned if the target is destroyed

[willow bluff]

I experienced that yesterday with Arbitration defense giving very low awards

Even in circuit the only fail condition is defense failure unless everyone is dead.

Atleast circuit gives half of the rewards even on failure

I don't think arbi is that much considerate

[glossy seal]

I do like that normal defense missions are now 3 waves. But yeah, rewards for general defense are just not worth the risk when compared to something like survival where even if you lose all life support, you can just walk on over to extraction

[willow bluff]

Is that universally true for all survival?

I think I experienced instant failure atleast once

[glossy seal]

I'm pretty sure, at least for endless survivals

I'm also talking about endless defense, tho

[willow bluff]

Also for operative defense, u can normally revive them once they enter bleedout (except arbi and also bleedout penalty in stuff like archon hunt)

So the worse one is defense objective

As those can't be instant healed

[glossy seal]

Is there an endless op defense?

[willow bluff]

Arbi

[glossy seal]

Just Arbies? No nodes?

[willow bluff]

Not sure