gameplay-discussion

[gusty turtle]

He is an alchemist

Snake is just a symbol for him

[wide vigil]

How tf is Oberon not radiation?

[gusty turtle]

He's not a trickster

Radiation is reserved for "tricksters"

(And Qorvex)

[wide vigil]

But the rads

[gusty turtle]

Sorry but he's a green paladin

Protector of nature gets toxin

[wide vigil]

Tell that to all his abilities

[gusty turtle]

It's not about abilities

It's about thematic fits, I think

Because otherwise the progenitor lineup would've been vastly different

[hallow harness]

Is anyone tryna help with Arbitrations?

[vocal olive]

??? @hallow harness

[hallow harness]

Yes?

[wide vigil]

#squad-recruitment

[hallow harness]

Thank you

Couldnt find the channel

[late vessel]

No bc wukong is impact

[gusty turtle]

Check radiation lich ephemera

And it's description

[late vessel]

Yk what

Fair enough

[gusty turtle]

Impact is for showoffs and brutes

The jocks

Dante, despite being a nerd

Has Ruvox as his signature

[trim turret]

what time does baro k teer come

[lilac shard]

I joined this server because I saw this screenshot and am going mad trying to find the gun from it.

[late vessel]

Efv-5 jupiter i believe

[lilac shard]

Oh. I was going to say it could be a baza.

[late vessel]

Sold by minerva in hollvania

[gusty turtle]

Efv jupiter

[lilac shard]

Wild how we just have AK's now. Thankies.

[late vessel]

And still no minigun

[onyx wren]

Oh is it off their personalities

I found out Gauss was impact and started tweaking out

[gusty turtle]

It was rather obvious

Definitely personalities and overall vibe

[onyx wren]

So what's the reasoning for each progenitor element

[gusty turtle]

Wdym

[onyx wren]

Like
If the showoffs are Inpact and tricksters are radiation, what's the archetypes for the others

[gusty turtle]

Magnetic houses all the weirdos that try to be different

Toxin houses nature affiliated frames

Heat, cold and electric I do not really understand

[onyx wren]

Ok can you really blame Xaku for being different I don't think they got a choice

[gusty turtle]

Fair enough

Not to mention some frames have a progenitor that's just tied to their element if it dominates their theme

[onyx wren]

Like Ember?

[gusty turtle]

Like Qorvex being in radiation despite not really being a trickster

[onyx wren]

Ah

Wait
Ember's theme is fire
But so is her

I may be stupid.

[gusty turtle]

She is a heat progenitor

Checks out

There aren't any non heat progenitor fire affiliated frames

Jade despite being a weirdo

Is still a heat frame

[onyx wren]

Jade light seems to be heat related yeah

[gusty turtle]

All her ability dmg is heat

It's a death laser

[onyx wren]

Today I learned

[gusty turtle]

Chroma can change elements, but he is a red dragon at heart

So he is also heat

[onyx wren]

Makes sense

[signal scarab]

Oh fr? I'm building him right now I assume he did time based stuff lmao

[gusty turtle]

Wdym?

[signal scarab]

I thought he had abilities based around time not changing elements and such

Because of his name

[gusty turtle]

I think that would've been Chrono

Not Chroma

You can preview abilities, you know

[signal scarab]

Depends but fair

[signal scarab]

I have on every single frame except him despite him being the first one I built 💀

[wide vigil]

Why do all my sisters turn out ugly

[old tundra]

how do i get messaging on KIM?

[wide vigil]

Go over to the icon it looks like a chat bubble

[old tundra]

i dont have it

[wide vigil]

Only the one in your orbiter has one not the one in the mall

[old tundra]

i have one in my orbiter?

[wide vigil]

Yep

Where conclave used to be

[old tundra]

PEAK>

thx g

[chilly jungle]

should i get nokko archgun weapon or kuva grattler ✌️

[old tundra]

how do i e-rizz marie?

[twin turtle]

Is it possible to get a refund from naming my weapons through warframe support, or are all platinum purchases final?

[old tundra]

unless its with a player im pretty sure final

[chilly jungle]

you can rename it again unless you want the plat back 😭

[onyx wren]

Just chat with her and you'll build chemistry

Whenever you get the shiny red messages that's extra chemistry based off yiur dialogue choices iirc

[old tundra]

ik abt chatting but i dont see her in my kim

[sacred scroll]

there's a little icon above the chat groups to swap between the groups

[onyx wren]

^

[old tundra]

i only have the hex rn how do i get the triad

[onyx wren]

Don't you have t do Old Peace?

[old tundra]

oh yeah and that i done the lotus eaters but its telling me to do lotus eaters

[onyx wren]

I fofir

[old tundra]

what

[sacred scroll]

have you done the old peace?

[molten stream]

just played a void cascade relic mission for like 20 - 30 minutes, finished the mission and everything i did in it is gone and it still ate all my void traces from relic cracking? none of the prime parts arcanes or affinity carried back over after i extracted has anyone else had this happen before
not something i usually care to talk about but it ate all my relics and i didnt even get void traces from finishing it so my like 45 minutes of trace farming earlier was negated

[lilac shard]

How do I know how much energy my mote amp has? It doesn't seem to have an ammo gague like other weapons.

[worthy comet]

if you just got it one of the bars in the lower right will go down when firing the beam

[red path]

it can happen, idk why it happens but if you have screenshots of your mission rewards before they disappeared you can try to make a ticket at support

[worthy comet]

later on properly built amps will have a more conventional ammo counter

[lilac shard]

Thankies.

[red path]

also, all your relic rewards should return to you by ordis

[molten stream]

first time this has happened to me i was taken off guard lolol
unfortunately i dont have any screenshots but its not that big of a deal. got an inbox message from ordis and i recovered my prime parts which is super convenient i just lost the arcanes which is a bummer. good to know im not alone though

[red path]

it only happened in void cascade for me so far

[tall echo]

yea so apparently its a known bug that sometimes you just cant get all the ETA/EDA rewards :(

[old tundra]

i want to but it keeps telling me to do lotus eaters WHICH I HAVE DONE

[red path]

check your inbox, maybe you forgot to open some mail after lotus eaters? or maybe try to restart the game?

[old tundra]

im finna check inbox rq

yup ur right

love u https://tenor.com/view/gauss-prime-gauss-warframe-gauss-meme-warframe-meme-gif-13078930774228297629

btw how long is old peace?

[red path]

a hour or maybe a bit more

[late vessel]

1-2 hrs

[old tundra]

is it hard?

[strong vigil]

not rlly

[red path]

not very much

[strong vigil]

they give you excal prime

speaking of gauss prime

[red path]

because quests are all solo, it's usually easier to do than missions that you excpected to do in squad

[strong vigil]

forgor

[old tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/gauss-prime-gauss-warframe-gauss-meme-warframe-meme-gif-13078930774228297629

[old night]

didn't know i could spam protea's first and 3rd skill

[hard mural]

laetum build for prime vanguard. any good?

[red path]

I use magistar slam build for vanguards

[onyx wren]

He's so fun you have no idea

[hard mural]

share build?

[violet wedge]

isn't hildryn stupid op

[oblique prism]

Guys what should i pick from these

[onyx wren]

Right

[tall echo]

def right yea

[gusty turtle]

Right, great roll

[magic tinsel]

whats the fastest way to grind pathos clamps

[red path]

time-wise isleweaver and lone story are not that much different, but isleweaver don't have drifter gameplay so it's easier imo

[stuck flame]

brought the new prime access pack 20-25 minutes ago and i haven't received anything yet. just asking if i should wait a little longer or not, v excited

purchase went through to my bank and money is taken just no goods yet

IT CAME THRIUGGG

AUUUUUUH NVM

[acoustic walrus]

The haul

grinding for spinnerex basically from scratch ended up getting me 70 pathos clamps

[red path]

I use volt with shock trooper, roar and arcane expertise with zenurik

getting around 4k shields at 10 orders completed

[hot mist]

hey guys, returning player here. what is the best among those to pick up? this is the first rank reward

[red path]

namalon or heciphron bp, you'll need them

[hot mist]

cant find those you mentioned lol

[red path]

there is search btw, devolved namalo, and purified heciphron

[hot mist]

ohh damn found heciphron, those names are crazy

what about those trophy bp?

[red path]

these are bps for making processed gems/alloy to build stuff

necramech and some weapons specifically

[hot mist]

i see

[red path]

trophy are just decor

[hot mist]

4 years of not playing this game , its just immensly overwhemling to try to play all content this game has to offer now xD

[red path]

and you'll need to catch good fish for them

just don't rush, just think you starting a new game, take your time

also, you just getting one thing for free, you will be able to get them all after, using standing

[hot mist]

thanks alot mate

[rocky parrot]

Which roll should keep?

[old tundra]

first?

[lilac shard]

An odd question: On the overgrown Orokin tileset I've encountered rooms cut off with an overgrowth of roots or whatever. Theres items on the other side so there must be a way in. I tried using my Operator's crouch teleport thing but that didn't work. What am I supposed to do to get through?

[coral viper]

holes in the walls kinda high up

for the one in the 'I' shaped room with the little river along it, there's a hole near the ceiling at the top of the first ste of stairs above the 'bridge' level. There are entrances like that for every 'blocked' area

[lilac shard]

I thought I could pop into a mission to check one but the rng is not with me.

Aha.

[signal scarab]

How do I get Ducat?

[lilac shard]

I've been all over this room and haven't found the way in.

[lilac shard]

For baro? there are terminals he sets up at the relays where you can exchange prime parts for ducats.
I would show you the spot but I am currently stuck on this little mystery.

[signal scarab]

Ohh okay that's all I needed to know
Tysm

[daring parrot]

and look up

[lilac shard]

Ah, I found it before I tabbed out to see the message. Thankies.

Not knowing this lost me an ayatan once.

[red path]

there is always a way in, unless you fkup in kuva fortress tileset

[strong remnant]

HI all. I'm 30 mins into SP survival on the bounty mission for the antivirus mods.

It saying the bounty is techrot enemies explode on death

There is no extraction anywhere??

[red path]

what objective shows? if it shows find extraction that just means waypoint is bugged, you'll have to look for it manually

[tight nebula]

okay so the last 2 weeks I've tried doing archimedian missions. I don't have elite on the deep one, but I do on my temporal. and for SOME reason the mission set refuses to give me my third reward

I'll get the first two mission rewards just fine but won't get my last one, and I'm getting really frustrated with it.

[ashen citrus]

its a bugged combo, gotta wait for that bounty reset

[strong remnant]

Thank you

[tight nebula]

anyone having similar issues or know how to get the rewards I've missed out on because of this bs?

[silver breach]

YOOOO first time getting to level cap!

[snow grove]

How's this? I feel the last one is terrible but

[silver breach]

such a huge milestone for me ❤️

[willow bluff]

What survey did DE take rn?

[snow grove]

[tight nebula]

NICE!

[rain cove]

which one should i get?

[queen plume]

Hey how do you guys make blast effective? I wanted to see if some of my weapons could pull off a good blast setup but the damage was always just a slap on the wrist.

[heady copper]

beam guns

high status chance

[unique plover]

can someone help me build soma prime? im mr7 and my soma prime sucks. im only building it for gauss prime.

[spare summit]

Guys, should i still keep teleport or subsume silence and use savage silence augment for ash

[spare summit]

Coda toxica, its unique trait is good

The other one has augment, toxica doesn't

I heard that coda catabolyst is way more annoying to use due to its grenade

Self stagger

[royal steppe]

can anyone explain why my sobek has infinite multishot and total dmg??????????????????

[vale falcon]

It's because of primary overcharge, it just makes the multishot show as that for some reason

[tall ermine]

can you do descendia more than once and get diff rewards? 🤔

[tall ermine]

I had a similar question a while ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/1lvo4j8/could_use_some_help_with_modding_soma/

[pure gulch]

the weekly rewards are one time, the resources from the floors themselves can get more

[vale falcon]

The rewards on the mission screen are once per week, and are separate for steel path and regular versions
Roathe kill rewards can be earned indefinitely tho (Uriel and his signature weapon parts)

[unique plover]

ur build is very similar to mine, did you use any formas?

[tall ermine]

yep, you can see from the screenshot there's only one unpolarised slot 😄

[tall ermine]

you'll also need to get this from the father on deimos: https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Hata-Satya

[unique plover]

thank you for the advice. im gonna farm it now

[unique plover]

i wanna use forma too but i think it'll be level 0 again? i dont wanna grind it all over again cuz im a lazy player

[tall ermine]

np also don't waste the slots for any fire rate mods if you use gauss

[unique plover]

👍

[hot mist]

if i died in the netracell missions and didnt get revive, should i leave the mission or wait for someone to reviv me ?

[tranquil kayak]

"Hey Vergil. Give me the Syamato"

"If you want it, Dante, then you'll have to take it."

I noticed Excalibur's neutral-block combo looks a like Dante's Drive move, with the reverse grip slashes emitting blade waves.

I wish I could get the Nikana Ryu Skin but it's in a bundle with an Ash skin I don't want, for 215p

[lilac relic]

don't know if it's the right chat for this but which one should i choose ?

[tranquil kayak]

Left

If you plan on getting Kronen Prime it's even better

[lilac relic]

what should i look for

[red path]

maybe because you have lavos or hildryn equipped

[lilac relic]

already have it haha :)

[tranquil kayak]

Good

Electric for Melee Influence is a good start on a melee riven

The critical is good for obvious reasons

I would try to get either status chance or critical damage as well

And a harmless negative (ie, negative heavy efficiency) because having a negative makes the positives better

[lilac relic]

welp i just rolled this

[tranquil kayak]

Welp there you go lmao

Keep it

inb4 "WAAAA BUT NEGATIVE STATUS DURATION BAD VRO"

[low grail]

does anyone know if the new roll is better? positive stats is somewhat at the low end

[tranquil kayak]

As if enemies are gonna live that long

[tranquil kayak]

Oof, that's a tough one...

Personally I'd go left

But that's because I don't give a shit about faction damage

That being said, a 25% damage reduction doesn't matter when everything is still dropping like flies

[low grail]

yea i cant tell a difference when using it on corpus haha

[rain cove]

ty, what should i swap the element into?

[tranquil kayak]

Most likely because the extra damage you're doing by equipping it basically raises the damage to be identical to when it's reduced by 25%

i don't think that sentence made sense

[spare summit]

Imo, magnetic, to strip overguard faster and deals extra damage to corpus faction

[tranquil kayak]

Yeah magnetic is a good idea

Though you'll likely be equipping Magnetic Might anyway

[rain cove]

ty again, time to farm the standing ig

[spare summit]

Or save that slot for something else

[tranquil kayak]

I mean, sure, but critical damage

[spare summit]

Like something something radiation i forgot

[spare summit]

We have merciless something with punch through and slightly more crit damage

[low grail]

ok, im keeping my current roll, thanks for the suggestions!

[tranquil kayak]

Yo wait a minute I just realised we didn't get any combined-element mods in Perita

It's all about the Tektolyst baby

[silver breach]

pair it with Xata's Whisper, and a high status weapon. Also a grouping tool will help a ton

[spare summit]

The right is a bit better, even though i'm not so sure about the neg though, if you have reinforced bond combine with fire rate mod, you probably would be fine

[tranquil kayak]

Man lmao I know I've reached peak Warframe when I'm talking about the game so much instead of playing

In my experience, super high fire rates on beam weapons is wack

Especially in Perita w/ Madurai focus because it increases your fire rate

[spare summit]

Multishot works differently on beam guns

[tranquil kayak]

I know that part

But is2g faster fire rate makes you do less damage per mag

[queen plume]

Cant I do it with bullet weapons? Explosives?

[spare summit]

What

[silver breach]

?

[tranquil kayak]

So the thing with Blast is it "double dips" on faction damage just like Xata's does

[silver breach]

you can use Blast with bullet weapons just fine

[tranquil kayak]

That being said, everything saying Blast is 'good' is with regards to using banes, grouping enemies, and a shitload of status

[spare summit]

Blast is more effective on high damage gun with decent status chance i think, due to how it works

On stripped enemies

[tranquil kayak]

Yeah I have Blast on a Tenet Cycron. It's pretty funny

[queen plume]

I mean my issue is primarily the blast damage. That's what I'm dealing with. Just 3 digit damage numbers on high levels.

[spare summit]

Not stripped enemies is a different story, and a slightly worse effectiveness

[tranquil kayak]

How much Blast damage is on your weapon?

[silver breach]

Blast is good with Xata's Whisper, because Xata's will trigger AGAIN when the blast proc hits. Also Xata's will double dip on headshots too iirc.

A grouping tool will also exponentially increase the damage due to quadratic scaling explosions

[spare summit]

80% less effective i mean

[tranquil kayak]

The status doesn't mean much if your Blast damage is like 5

[silver breach]

also armor strip is very very important. I typically run corrosive blast on builds

[spare summit]

Or if you are active enough, switch to operator, shoot a couple until void status proc

[queen plume]

Aegrit as an example: 797 blast dmg

[tranquil kayak]

Ah, yeah um Aegrit doesn't exactly apply a lot of status effect

See, Blast only really works if you can get an enemy to 10 stacks really fast

[queen plume]

I remember that

[spare summit]

I really do want to see Xaku's 2nd ability proc void status, therefore making his untime rift augment actually synergize

It doesn't do so as of now, which is sad

[silver breach]

some sample corrosive blast builds I got

[tranquil kayak]

Void Warframe
Doesn't proc Void

lmao funny

[spare summit]

Yes

Doesn't make sense whatsoever

[tranquil kayak]

the one ability that does proc void can be used by every other Warframe

So the only identity Xaku has is skeleton

https://tenor.com/view/muerto-gif-16250174877271582365

[spare summit]

His 4th basically go nude

[old tundra]

what damage should i build nataruk for?

[spare summit]

Spectral? What frame do you use for it?

Ash? Loki? Ivara?

[tranquil kayak]

was just gonna ask that lmao

inb4 Shade

[silver breach]

ivara

[tranquil kayak]

oof

that explains the Hush

[spare summit]

Only active until you shoot once

[tranquil kayak]

by the way, move that polarity out of the exilus slot and put it on Spectral's slot

[spare summit]

I see

[spare summit]

I prefer Ash more

He's a bit out of place but still very usable

[tranquil kayak]

Y'all be sleepin on Cyte-09

Evade is subsumable, you can put it on anyone and headshot kills extend the duration

[spare summit]

His invisibility takes more effort to maintain, which isn't fun at all

[tranquil kayak]

It can last forever if you keep splitting wigs

[tranquil kayak]

But the Coda Sporothrix is a sniper rifle. You'll be aiming for the head anyway

[spare summit]

The reason is that it has cooldown, unlike other stealth frames

[tranquil kayak]

Also, Primary Crux.

[spare summit]

Evade is good for solo, not multiplayer

Because people will kill before you do

[tranquil kayak]

Yes, that is correct it has a cooldown but you can make Evade outlast its own cooldown

oh yeah, lmao fair enough I don't really play solo

Like only recently have I been doing solo, in Perita when just no one else shows up

[spare summit]

If your team kills slower than you, and you don't have a potato aim

[tranquil kayak]

But thank god because they scale down the objectives required in smaller squads

[spare summit]

The reason why i use Ash is because of his teleportation

It does execution, easy to stack crescendo up and his smoke screen does have augment that adds 150% more crit chance for all weapons

My sancti magistar with riven? Red crit with 3 exclamation marks

Millions of damage, can get over 100 with ease

Heavy slam of course, i'm planning to try out Ruvox

And uh, his shadow basically back stabbing people, or front stabbing

[spare summit]

That's tier 6 critical damage

Combining with roar? Oh boy, it's like a little kid walking into a candy store

[spare summit]

I played him for quite a while, he was my go-to frame

[hybrid gorge]

hiii where can i ask carry me help

[spare summit]

Hi, me no computer no help sori

[hybrid gorge]

np

i am just lookign for someone who can help me farm gauss

[spare summit]

Guss?

Hmm, someone will

[coarse basin]

in normal objective missions maybe... you're forgetting he has wall hacks

[spare summit]

Valid point, but there are people nuke the shit out of everything, spare nothing left for you

[coarse basin]

that being said, sobek cyte makes maintaining evade hard because you kill everything and the heads are small

[gusty turtle]

people talk like its not as bad as it sounds but then they realize how it feels to have procs that last like half a second

[spare summit]

Short mission he's shit but lonf mission? He's good, especially something like void cascade

[spare summit]

Well, not really shit in short mission as long as he could maintain his invisibility

[coarse basin]

he's still not shit in short missions yeah

in exterminates and stuff he can kill things a few rooms ahead of your nukers

[spare summit]

Or just freeze them and kill them

[coarse basin]

if neutralizer, sure

[spare summit]

Freeze grenade exist for a reason though

[coarse basin]

when enemies are too close

[spare summit]

Goodluck when violence steps in though

It's like no more invis for you

[coarse basin]

that's when you switch to operator and void sling like your life depends on it, since your life depends on it

then you can start fighting again once you're far away

[spare summit]

Then you get beaten up by some nearby eximus in the most unlucky way, or accidentally sling into a nullifier's bubble

OOF

It could happen but not that often, rare i could say

[coarse basin]

if you sling into a nullifier bubble you just roll

[spare summit]

The worst case is a combo of several fire eximus and blast eximus blasting you

Even worse is you fall into a nullifier's bubble

If you don't have primed sure footed

[lofty garden]

Best mod in the game.

[spare summit]

Or some knockback prevention

[spare summit]

Fr, if we have more than 100%, those stagger us will stagger themselves instead

[unique plover]

how can i level up my MR fast?
i have so many prime weaponss, i wanna craft them to be stronger but my MR isnt enough.

[coarse basin]

cyte's a liiiiitttleee squishy, so what

[coarse basin]

craft normal weapons and level those

[spare summit]

Ash is also squishy wym

[lofty garden]

Did you rank up all the weapons that can be bought for credits from the store? That's 39k MR right there.

[coarse basin]

is it really just 39k

huh

[lofty garden]

13 of them

[spare summit]

But a bit more "mobile"

[coarse basin]

oh wait not including the bp ones?

[pure gulch]

market and dojo blueprints can get you quite far

[lofty garden]

Talking about just the ones you buy for credits already built.

[unique plover]

i tried that but its a slow way to level up mr. arent there other ways? @lofty garden @coarse basin

[spare summit]

Unlock nodes

And uhhhh, mastering frames

[lofty garden]

All frames have 0 MR requirement, so build those.

progress the star chart, build things from blueprints.

[unique plover]

whats that?

[coarse basin]

sentinels have 3x the mr gain of a weapon so maybe that

[spare summit]

In navigation, if you still see blue nodes blinking, those are unfinished nodes, finish them to get masterank

[unique plover]

alright guys thanks. im gonna go back to farming now

[spare summit]

Goodluck, baby tenno

I've been there before, i didn't even in this server until recently lol

Had to figure out a lot of stuff to do

My friend introduced me to this game and he regret for doing so LMAO

2500 hours and still counting

[marble flax]

Well, he's regret it because he made you become a number one tenno, or you're finally outdone him?

[old tundra]

gus prim

[unique plover]

I started warframe because of excalibur, i quited this game a few year ago and now im back for gauss. i got gauss prime but my MR is extremely low and my damage kinda sucks (my only good weapon is nataruk) and idk what to do now. im just chilling around and keep asking ppl questionss 😭

[marble flax]

TBH, there's no wrong thing than asking

[spare summit]

He didn't expect me to be so invested in this game, he told me about how grindy this game was, so i tried it out anddd i ended up playing like that much hours

[marble flax]

That's the point in warframe

You're learning every day

[spare summit]

LMAOOO

[marble flax]

Kekw

[coarse basin]

relatable

[spare summit]

I'm slowly getting to the technical side of the game to min max the damage output

[old tundra]

fr

[coarse basin]

https://tenor.com/view/gauss-prime-gauss-warframe-gauss-meme-warframe-meme-gif-13078930774228297629

[marble flax]

Mostly my target is Steel Path and done

[shy jackal]

Anyone know what's the "best" melee right now

[spare summit]

Gus prim, one of the frames make you crashing into walls or doors constantly

[old tundra]

just me whos having a breakdown cus of jade shadows?

[coarse basin]

that isnt a thing

[unique plover]

yeah but i feel like i annoy people so much whenever i ask questions

[spare summit]

First, what playstyle do you want? Slam? Normal? Heavy slam? Throw?

[old tundra]

is broken war or hate better?

[coarse basin]

I like crashing into walls and doors if it means I get to go fast

[marble flax]

I mean.....in warframe, we already felt the pain

[shy jackal]

Normal

[coarse basin]

and im still fast

[spare summit]

Hate, it has incarnon and augment, but augment so far is rare and like 100 plats more for kt

[marble flax]

So we won't hate people who asking

[coarse basin]

hate

[old tundra]

do we get the bp then craft or the whole weapon?

[spare summit]

Do you play with incarnon? Do you usually want to stack your melee combo multi to 12x?

[coarse basin]

the best melee is melee influence tho

[spare summit]

Man, stop being hateful

[coarse basin]

HATE

[spare summit]

[marble flax]

DESPAIR

[coarse basin]

we all know it's true btw

[old tundra]

DREAD

[shy jackal]

I do but im fine with normal ones. Yeah i think? Is this leading to hate incarnon or

[coarse basin]

even if we dont want it to be

[spare summit]

Funny enough, i actually have dread, despair and hate

All in incarnon form

Fully built

[marble flax]

Me:

Finally get the despair

[coarse basin]

wow, you gotta get some positive emotions in there

do you have harmony or smth

[spare summit]

Haha very funny, you should be Bombastine

[spare summit]

No

I built for mr

[spare summit]

I mean, all melees kill, if i have to say i prefer throwing melees more

Like coda pathocyst, the best one so far

[coarse basin]

top tier weapon and you trashed it for mr?

[spare summit]

Wait a minute, is that you Bombastine? With that sarcastic attitude of yours

[coarse basin]

like it does billions of dmg

[spare summit]

Dude, i play Brutus so many times like i have a lot of its blueprint

I can rebuild again whenever i want

[spare summit]

Nahhh

[spare summit]

Fun fact, you could use mind control on parvos sister in brutus, but it has a very short duration

[spare summit]

LMAO WTF

[coarse basin]

wasnt me but there

[spare summit]

Still, magistar peak, idc

[coarse basin]

broken ass melee

[spare summit]

Red crit more funny, tier 6 crit

[coarse basin]

you could just use kullervo and a butter knife to get tier 6 crits

[old tundra]

pls hop on marie 🙏

[spare summit]

Magistar deals more consistence damage, i kinda not like burst damage like that

[spare summit]

Ash with smoke screen augment be like

I mean, my sancti magistar can reach more than tier 6 with kullervo but nah, i want slam

[coarse basin]

it's just a heavy attack

[spare summit]

I know but uh

I'm wondering if there's anyone crazy enough to play level cap with unmodded set up

Invisible frames like ash could work i guess

Or just Revenant

Modded or not, Revenant

[marble flax]

Me looking at this word:

Grendel grind trauma intensifies

[spare summit]

It sucks actually, crowd control frames like nyx does help a lot

Or oberon, with renewal to keep his ass safe as long as there are energy to sustain

[chilly jungle]

rhino

[spare summit]

You know level cap can one shot you right?

[marble flax]

Instruction unclear, already sacrificed the Rhino to helminth

[chilly jungle]

if your standing still then ofc 😭

[spare summit]

💀

[lyric lotus]

not saying it's impossible, but will have a very hard time even killing one greener.

[spare summit]

It's like beating an armored tank with a stick

[chilly jungle]

are we talking about everything being unmodded or what 💔

[coarse basin]

I think nokko would work

[spare summit]

Yes

[lyric lotus]

i take it as yes.

[chilly jungle]

then rhino would be good 😭

[lyric lotus]

everything unmodded.

[spare summit]

Before his overguard runs out after taking a few shots from level cap enemies

Orrr, Revenant

[lyric lotus]

rhino's overguard will get one shotted.

[chilly jungle]

yk you can just keep on using his ironskin tho

[chilly jungle]

wont he get atleast 500k-1mil

[spare summit]

But you can't hit anything properly if you keep ironskin him

[chilly jungle]

because the dmg of lvl 9999 steelpath enemies do alot

[pure gulch]

and it still gets one shot at cap

[lyric lotus]

dosen't matter, lvl 9999 is no joke

[spare summit]

Yes

[empty granite]

Huh, i found a little trick for conj survival, not sure if i should reveal incase it get fixed :P

[spare summit]

Sus

[empty granite]

Ba fan

[lyric lotus]

people do tricks in survivals?

[sinful rapids]

Hmmm, almost the same looking server

[spare summit]

But now, thanks to arcane persistence, health tanking to level cap is possible, Inaros can shine again

[spare summit]

Yes

[chilly jungle]

at that point just abuse the gauss aegis glitch and hope you aren't going to get hit with toxin/gas 😭

[empty granite]

Basically killing the thrax before they spawn

Bypassing operator kill requirement

[spare summit]

Imagine eHP from millions to like 500? 500 per second? Bruh

[spare summit]

Hololive huh

[lyric lotus]

i don't think any unmodded frame with unmodded weapon would survive through a mission unless someone is doing capture lol

[spare summit]

Revenant

[empty granite]

What up?

[lyric lotus]

ahh rev...yes

[spare summit]

Speaking of survivability, Revenant

[lyric lotus]

forgot it exists lol

[spare summit]

What's up

Saiba

[spare summit]

LMAO

[lyric lotus]

tbh, i don't play rev just cause it get boring after awhile.

[empty granite]

Want to see my coda bassocyst i coloured to koharu

[chilly jungle]

gauss technically has the best survivability in this game 💔

you dont even need to do anything

[spare summit]

I see him as an accessibility frame, there are some people who couldn't move smoothly so they pick revenant as a go to frame for how easy it is to play him

[spare summit]

AYOOO

[gusty turtle]

There's one really perplexing thing about Persistence

[spare summit]

I know, magnetic and skill disable like nullifer bubble or violence

[gusty turtle]

Nope

[lyric lotus]

and that makes rev maining a lazy work in the game :p

[gusty turtle]

There's something even weirder

A bit insane even

[chilly jungle]

you can get inf energy = inf health

[gusty turtle]

Nope

Something else

[spare summit]

Again, they play Revenant for easy survivability, until they feel bored and try something else

[lyric lotus]

or never play anything

[gusty turtle]

It geniunely left me dumbfounded

[spare summit]

Majority won't stick to easy frame like that for a long yime

[spare summit]

Tell me, i'm all ears

[spare summit]

My drifter has hoshino's eye color though

[gusty turtle]

So, on one of the latest streams...

They said that Persistence was not meant to be a health tank solving arcane. Like they didn't intend it to be used to solve health tanking issues at high level

[lyric lotus]

also, did DE make gyre even broken with prime? :/

[spare summit]

HuH

So, an unintentional bandaid?

[gusty turtle]

And that proper health tank changes will come in 2026

[spare summit]

And persistence will work differently? Like a rework?

[gusty turtle]

We don't know

They said "Persistence wasn't meant to be a health tank problem solver"

"health tank solutions in 2026"

[spare summit]

So far, it's only a bandaid solution for something that's not looking great so far unintentionally?

[gusty turtle]

All of it leaves a single question

[spare summit]

Limbo rework when

[gusty turtle]

What the hell was Persistence even designed for

[spare summit]

Oops, wrong question

[lyric lotus]

doubt limbo going to get touched anytime sooner

[spare summit]

Unfortunated wording

[empty granite]

I use limbo on spy

[lyric lotus]

[empty granite]

Dats it

[gusty turtle]

I wonder what will happen to Persistence when they actually start working on solving health tank problems

Because if it wasn't designed with that in mind, then wtf was it for

[spare summit]

So they made a bandaid solution for health tanking unintentionally, and they said it wasn't meant for health tanking. So, why?

[silver breach]

basically think of Persistence kinda like Catalizing Shields (a modification to aid in their respective mode of tanking)
and they want to add actual health mechanic stuff like how shields have shieldgating, etc

is what im reading

[spare summit]

Wait, you do have a point, it does work similarly to shield gating but without invulnerability

[gusty turtle]

They said "we didn't intend it to be used as a way to solve issues of health tanking"

Almost a direct quote

[spare summit]

Ah i see

[lyric lotus]

[gusty turtle]

I'm now straight up just extremely confused and curious what was their original intent for it

[spare summit]

I guess they will turn persistence into something else then? When health tanking rework is a thing

[gusty turtle]

Because I can't think of any other use cases

This arcane is useless at lowe levels where health tanks thrive without any need for it

[spare summit]

Persistence does make some sense, until they explicitly said not a solution for health tanking

[gusty turtle]

It comes online in endurance

That's what I'm saying, wtf was it for then

Barely anyone can use it, barely anything can sustain it after the nerf in modes where it matters

Weird

[silver breach]

I dont think so, I think theyre just gonna add more stuff for health tanking.

[spare summit]

Persistence does need some hefty investment for health though, i mean low health frame with high armor? Yeah no, arcane blessing might give it more breathing room along with vitality and azure shard but still

Not that viable for most frames

[gusty turtle]

Frames that are designed as health tanks in this game can work with it with zero issues

But then again, apparently it's not for that???

[spare summit]

Health tank frames are limited, like Inaros, he has high health naturally or Nidus, he can achieve higher health but conditional

[marble flax]

TBH the only thing that I can do with Persistence is using for Mesa

[gusty turtle]

Inaros, Nidus, Grendel, Lavos, Nekros, Etc

[spare summit]

I can't think of more health tank frames

[marble flax]

For comfort build

[gusty turtle]

Chroma too

Qorvex

Valkyr

Their kits are clearly health tank adjacent even if they have shields

[spare summit]

Archon vitality? With arcane hot shot and heat build for her exalted?

[gusty turtle]

Citrine is also a health tank, but she's focusing entirely on DR so Persistence kinda messes with her in a bad way

[marble flax]

I'm not that advanced to use Arcane Hotshot

[gusty turtle]

Nezha is also a health tank

[marble flax]

More like, I'm not grinding that long enough

[spare summit]

Her DR works for under level 500, beyond 500 is useless, that's where persistence kicks in

[gusty turtle]

Harrow is technically a health tank by virtue of life stealing

[spare summit]

I see

[gusty turtle]

Sevagoth too

All these frames have innate ways to tank with their hp

Atlas too

[spare summit]

But i still don't get it, DR doesn't work with persistence, which messes up with some ability built-in DR frames

[gusty turtle]

And Garuda

And Oraxia

[spare summit]

Uh, bloodletting her doesn't sound like a good idea then

With persistence

[gusty turtle]

Blood altar is a % heal

It suddenly becomes relevant

She has good armor and hp

[spare summit]

Oberon is a potential health tanking frame too, but his health? Nah

[gusty turtle]

Yeah he scales armor instead

[spare summit]

His kit literally very sustainable for tanking

But again, HEALTH IS TOO LOW

[gusty turtle]

Then we also have Voruna

Caster or Melee Voruna with Persistence is basically immortal

But then again, Persistence not meant for health tanking

Trinity is also a health tank

[brave flare]

Can't renewal and arcane blessing solve the health issue?

[gusty turtle]

Then we start getting into healing augments

And we get... Xaku

[signal jolt]

wtf ninjase getting prime sure footed on every build???

https://overframe.gg/build/207018/saryn-prime/venomous-spores-saryn-steel-path-general-use/

[silver breach]

I mean its a pretty good mod

[gusty turtle]

There's a lot of frames who have health tanking built into their kit in one way or another

[silver breach]

in late game, if you get knocked down, its basically instant death. So prime sure footed just insures you dont instantly die

[gusty turtle]

I do wonder what they're gonna do

And what'll happen to Persistence

[gusty turtle]

As much of a primed skill issue that mod is

Unfortunate cc will end up in your death at higher levels

But that's literally the only argument

And even then it's not that relevant for anyone who isn't in melee range

But you never know when there's a blitz eximus spawning right behind you

[silver breach]

you constantly get thrown around every second in higher levels. I think its kinda unfair to call that skill issue lmao. Rolling guard cant save you the entire time

[brave flare]

Wait, is the gloom meta making a return?

[gusty turtle]

I don't think so

[silver breach]

ive not seen anyone talk about gloom in a while

[gusty turtle]

We gotta see how they will change health tanking this year

Persistence be damned, whatever it was designed for originally

[spare summit]

Renewal only heals, increase armor and grant regeneration, not health increase unlike Wisp

[gusty turtle]

Oh yeah wisp

Another frame with health tanking tools

There's really lots of em

[spare summit]

Ninjase knows how to build, but that doesn't mean you should follow his build if something in his build doesn't suit with your playstyle

[gusty turtle]

Ninjase endured years of making shit builds to get there as well

[spare summit]

You can tweak it, not 100% follow his build

[silver breach]

imo always cater your builds to your own taste. The game has such amazing build crafting that imo its kinda just wasted if we just copy paste

[gusty turtle]

Yeah, it's really a matter of playstyle and general understanding

Just copying a build will only get you so far

[brave flare]

Yea but arcane blessing will give you some extra health which he can do reliably with reckoning

[fresh cairn]

i've got a drop chance booster. where's a good place to spend it..?

[silver breach]

whatever materials youre missing

[signal jolt]

I heard that he is not that good of a builder?

[silver breach]

tho I guess something like Orokin Cells or Plastids are always needed for everything

[fresh cairn]

*sorry, mod drop chance booster

from sortie..

[pure gulch]

well if you need some mods or endo

[silver breach]

I guess just go into any survival and just rake up mods? most of the "High end" mods arent gotten from "drops" usually. So a mod drop chance booster is mostly for Endo

Arcanes are also affected by the booster, but I think youre not there yet to worry about arcanes

[pure gulch]

i mean some stuff you can get from drops and the booster helps but indirectly its also endo gain through mod dupes lol

like acuity and them mods from 1999 then mod drop chance helps

[silver breach]

Condition Overload from Deimos i guess too. Thats a pretty good one to get

[fresh cairn]

does it affect endo gains thru mission rewards and recycling mods?

[spare summit]

Subjective thing to say to be honest, to me of course. Good or bad builder? Your own judgement

[silver breach]

no, you convert the mods you get into endo

[red path]

if you not targeting specific mod, that drop from killing mobs, you prob better just use it to farm for endo

[fresh cairn]

no i mean does the booster chance increase the endo received from recycling mods

[red path]

it affect chances that mobs drop mods, endo or arcanes (if that chance is not 100%)

[silver breach]

Mod Drop Chance booster = gives more Mods
Mods give endo when recycling
More mods = More Endo

[spare summit]

Yes, but you may drop 2 arcanes at the same time to replace persistence and blessing

[fresh cairn]

thanks.

got another question.

best parts for railjack?

[spare summit]

This could affect your build possitively or negatively depends on your build

[brave flare]

Yea that's fair. He benefits a lot from universal fallout

[red path]

imo:
plating: Lavan; reactor: Zetki; shield array: Zetki ones with the +25% damage when shield is 0; engine: Lavan with high boost is best if you have a human pilot at the helm, Vidar is best for NPC pilots

[silver breach]

as for what weapons imo, its all down to preference imo

[spare summit]

Imo: shoot die, get shot alive, good enough

Railjack is mostly untouched so

[red path]

weapons are usually zekti once you get reload intrinsic

[spare summit]

Yes

I still remember the struggle of my unprepared railjack when playing new war

It was hell to get through that part

[red path]

yeah, i went with r0 railjack with 0 mods or intrinsics

wihtout even boost unlocked

[spare summit]

Relatable

[spare summit]

Even more relatable

[red path]

I think i got killed like 30 or 40 times?

[spare summit]

I didn't get killed THAT much

Around 10 times more or less

[red path]

and then I didn't know how to repait rj, it wouldn't move because of damage, so i had to get into archwing, fly to the sentient ship to activate next part of quest (~50km), then fly back to use slingshot

[fresh cairn]

does faction gain from pledging reduce the opposing faction points..?

[last tide]

Can the medal challenges be completed even after the event is over?

[last tide]

Yea, depends on the faction. It varies

[spare summit]

I just don't do so and go all out, brute forcing through all of the bs infront of me

[red path]

if it's not about collecting marks then yea

[last tide]

Oh okay good to know ty

[red path]

event will only close event shop and alerts and you won't be able to get more marks

[spare summit]

It's annoying that even with cautious shot, it still gonna strip away Inaros's scarab shell

[red path]

normal perita mission will still be available

[spare summit]

Like what the hell

[fresh cairn]

thanks guys

[last tide]

Yupp just wanted to double check

[spare summit]

I have nothing else to buy from that shop lol

[fresh cairn]

are there good missions to farm mods in?

[spare summit]

What mods are you talking about?

General mods?

[fresh cairn]

idk i have nothing in mind. just wanna make use of my mod booster?

[red path]

it should be still active next week for a few days to buy lens and kuva

[spare summit]

What about rare mods? Golden ones

[spare summit]

ALL GONE

Yes, i bought all of them

[red path]

it resets on weekly reset

[spare summit]

YOOO

[fresh cairn]

yes but where?

[red path]

I'll be buying them 4th time next week

[spare summit]

Or you could farm on dark sectors for more mods, for more endos

[spare summit]

You have to do research by yourself unfortunately

Again, what rare mods do you want for your build? Take some time to think about it

[red path]

if you have kuva fortress (after the war within) and don't have astral twilight (glaive stance mod), you may try farming it in kuva survival

[spare summit]

Kuva??? Riven rolling PTSD

[fresh cairn]

thanks

[spare summit]

Always so closed yet so far

[pure gulch]

to be fair stance on glaives hardly matters cus when are you ever using it for anything other than free mod capacity

[fresh cairn]

it's difficult to farm?

[red path]

that free mod capacity matters a lot in early-mid game when you short on forma

[spare summit]

2 stances, that's it, people mostly throw rather than use it as a normal melee

[red path]

no, but it's a rare drop, may take some time without booster or sp

[fresh cairn]

thanks.
any other mods that are difficult to hunt?.. in railjack for example?

[red path]

other stance is even more rare to farm

[old tundra]

best companion for shields?

[spare summit]

But becareful of the stupid self-stagger of glaive when you use heavy attack or use volatile rebound

I hate that alot

[fresh cairn]

kuva fortress survival = which map? taveuni?..

[red path]

there is spectral serration mod in hollvania, there is also 60/60 beast claw mods that drop in orb vallis toroid farming spots

[fresh cairn]

think i haven't unlocked hollvania..

[spare summit]

Spectral serration actually rewards you for staying invisible all the time, but limited to certain frames

[red path]

also, some stance mods are pretty rare, have to research on wiki where to farm them, like four raiders and vermilion forgot-the-name

[spare summit]

Non invisible frames benefit nothing from it

Unless external invisibility buff such as smoke screen with augment can give allies invisibility

[red path]

you can subsume quiver from ivara or evade from cyte

[spare summit]

Or external invisibility buff like Ash or Wukomg

[red path]

I actually used quiver for farming with nekros in sp, before I learned how to survive without it

[spare summit]

Shade and huras

Wait what, nekros doesn't have any ability that can kill fast enough

[old tundra]

if marie is offline how long does it take for her to come back on?

[red path]

and what ability would you use to kill mobs? I tried subsuming dark verse and nova stars with augment, it's not good

and since pseudo-exalted rework, khora whip break shade invis

[spare summit]

There's not much ability you can use to deal damage there, i guess thermal sunder?

[red path]

it's usually one conversation per day

only roathe give you extra voice messages

[old tundra]

damn. aight btw what companion should i take for more shields or just invicibility?

[fresh cairn]

is caliban prime worth putting a potato on?

[spare summit]

YES

[old tundra]

why am i getting attention from the wrong ppl?

[spare summit]

SPIN, SHOCK AND SUMMON SENTIENTS

[old tundra]

what frame should i get if i want fun and damage?

[spare summit]

He's a good caster frame, not shit

[fresh cairn]

how do i get more potato blueprints?

[spare summit]

Caliban if you want constant spinning with his razor gyre augment on, or gus prim with HEAT AND COLD

[old tundra]

i alr have gus prim ima just make him a weapons platform that can burn and freeze u at the same time

[spare summit]

Or Ash with his stabbing shadows

[old tundra]

i need a gauss build

im so cooked

[spare summit]

His exalted shadows aren't a joke

You could build him with negative range since his kit has high range already

Not really a nuke but killing slowly one by one

True damage too, nothing can reduce true damage

[old tundra]

ima do gus cus im just broke

help?

[spare summit]

I have gus prim, played him, fun until toxin eximus steps in the field

God damn it

[spare summit]

You want HEAT AND COLD treatment? Like BOOM BOOM

[red path]

I have arcane blessing for such moments

[spare summit]

Having negative efficiency is a bad choice for him, he's a caster frame

Or you could build him as a weapon platform frame

[red path]

114s on redline is good?

[old tundra]

i want this and gun boost

or wtv is best for steel path

[spare summit]

HOW MUCH DURATION DID YOU GIVE HIM, CHARGING IS OBNOXIOUSLY LONG WITH THAT DURATION LMAO

[chilly jungle]

ngl gauss is just all duration

[spare summit]

So a mix between then?

I don't really use him much anymore sooo

[red path]

how much? all of it, had 97s but then de made new arcane...

[spare summit]

Goodluck with charging the battery

[old tundra]

i need something where i can solo

[chilly jungle]

i dont get why gauss 4th scale with duration only

[old tundra]

sp and most content really

[chilly jungle]

i also dont get why that volt cant shoot bows faster with his speed ability 😭

[red path]

it usually takes 20-30s to get 100% on side meter if I don't start from 0

[spare summit]

Too long omfg

I can't wait for that long

[red path]

but then I have almost a minute to do everything

[chilly jungle]

bro just spam 1??? 😭

[spare summit]

Isn't gauss's 4th scales slower the more duration you have?

[vocal monolith]

guys anyone knows where i can find the baro kiteer in the game at this time?

[chilly jungle]

no

wym by slower

[old tundra]

hes not on rn

he comes every few weeks if im not wrong

[vocal monolith]

today it supost to appers

[old tundra]

oh damn

[red path]

no, it's every 2 weeks, so next week friday

[old tundra]

what should i build gus prim forv

[red path]

you can type when baro in qna chat in game to see an answer

[vocal monolith]

ok

[spare summit]

This is from the wiki:
Redline counter maximum growth scales inversely with Ability Duration (e.g. more duration reduces growth), calculated as: 100% / ( Duration × 1/3 ). This means the Redline counter cannot be maxed earlier than 1/3rds of its duration.

[old tundra]

yutoka what do i build gauss for?

[spare summit]

Depends on your preferences to be honest, weapon platformer or caster?

Or something else

[old tundra]

i wanna do weapons platform but losing the aoe sucks

[chilly jungle]

yeah but you still get the most out of having alot of duration

[spare summit]

You have to sacrifice one though

[spare summit]

Fair point

[old tundra]

which can make me solo better?

[spare summit]

Revenant

[old tundra]

gus prim build

[chilly jungle]

AND you could get the same amount of buffs at a lower percentage if you had higher duration compare to a lower duration

[red path]

I'm ok with that, I get almost 300% buff to fire rate with my duration

[chilly jungle]

solo what

[spare summit]

Jk, weapon platformer depends on the weapon you use and how much could the weapons you use benefits from your redline and thermal transfer

[old tundra]

sp and whatnot

[chilly jungle]

any frame aslong as you mod it correctly

[spare summit]

REVENANT

[fresh cairn]

where can i buy orokin catalyst bps..?

[old tundra]

im using nataruk but im tryna get another asap cus the charge is kinda annoying

[red path]

there is a lot of aoe weapons, like both gauss signature ones, and gauss 2 removes self-stagger from aoe

[old tundra]

i think u like revenant

[chilly jungle]

revenant mad overrated

[spare summit]

Is grass green ahh

[old tundra]

mb king ✌️

[old tundra]

so should i do weapons platform with aoe weapons?

[spare summit]

I think revenant was designed for comfort gameplay without much worries about maintaining survivability

[old tundra]

ok but real question what would it take for marie to suffocate between em?

[chilly jungle]

rhino 💔

[red path]

you should try both variants, that is why there is 3 mod configs at base and you can buy 3 more with plat

[spare summit]

Cc? Yes
Survivability? Yes
Nuke? Yes
Mobility? Yes

[chilly jungle]

loki can do all of this 😭

[old tundra]

ok so weapons platform build?

[spare summit]

I don't remember Loki has something that can nuke

[red path]

1-shot lvl cap? yes

[spare summit]

Yes but to a certain point

[red path]

decoy shenanigans iirc

[spare summit]

Unlike Revenant, consistent for all level

[spare summit]

Bruh

[chilly jungle]

his decoy augment + marked for death

[old tundra]

yutoka do u got a weapons platform build?

[spare summit]

No

[old tundra]

damn im cooked

[spare summit]

But even if i do? Probably Ash

[chilly jungle]

bro rhino scales infinitely 😭

[spare summit]

Buttt his ironskin breaks when reached to a certain point

Unlike REVENAMT

[chilly jungle]

pal

do you not know how ironskin works 😭

[spare summit]

Apologies, when it comes to level cap

[old tundra]

can i changes gus 3rd ability?

[spare summit]

I do, or i forgot about it

[spare summit]

Thermal sunder? Brother that's his weapon platform with thermal transfer

[brave flare]

Do enemies still do insane damage in level cap? Its been awhile for me

[spare summit]

Yes, millioms

[chilly jungle]

the more dmg you take = the more overguard and that also gets boosted by strength/armor

[spare summit]

Thanks for the reminder

[old tundra]

i meant like i shoot guns fast

[red path]

I think i posted gauss build for you a few days ago

[spare summit]

Use Grakata

[chilly jungle]

melee or gun platform

[old tundra]

hold up can i even do a weapons platform build without losing aoe?

[old tundra]

gun

[red path]

this one

[spare summit]

Pick one, you accept losing some range to achieve better weapon platforming build, or a mix between caster and that

[old tundra]

if i do a mix is it gonna be midv

[spare summit]

Check TangoCraft build

[old tundra]

where?

[chilly jungle]

ngl if you want a weapon platform go with mirage

[red path]

if you want to not lose aoe, just replace narrow mind with something else, like achon vitality or some strength mod

[spare summit]

It's up there, scroll up

[chilly jungle]

gauss/volt are better for melee 😭

[spare summit]

Used volt, not like

[old tundra]

what.

[spare summit]

Not shockingly terrible though

Pun intended, no need to clap

[chilly jungle]

how did you use him 💔

[lean crypt]

guys why do i see their messages like this ?

[old tundra]

ok i sacrifice range for weapons platform

[old tundra]

cus theyre prob saying very nice things

[red path]

I think I have gun platform builds for gauss, harrow (actually with nuking ), mirage and oraxia

[spare summit]

Shock, give people shock power, shock people to make them do things faster, create shields mad with electricity and release lethal voltage

[lean crypt]

bro they are in a deep conversation

[old tundra]

PLS SPEEED I NEED THISSSSS

[old tundra]

oh mb then

[onyx glen]

Do u guys build gauss with str and duration for weapons platform

[red path]

they probably use characters that your pc can't display, like chinese/jap

[old tundra]

TANGOR PLSSSS

[spare summit]

Probably they're saying something in a language that's not latin words or something idk

[spare summit]

This

[chilly jungle]

what augment

[red path]

which one? I posted my gauss build above

[lean crypt]

isn't there a setting to show what they say ?

[spare summit]

Shock trooper

His 1st, give people Zeus's power

[old tundra]

the one thats a weapons platform but can nuke

[spare summit]

His 2nd is too damn short

[chilly jungle]

what weapon

[spare summit]

Wym

[chilly jungle]

mine is like 20-30 seconds 😭

[spare summit]

His 1st give people electricity

Seperate from other elements

[red path]

lets see if I can run my game, my pc been dying slowly lately

[old tundra]

same

[spare summit]

Narrow minded fr

Or a lot of duration shards

[chilly jungle]

ik but what weapon

[spare summit]

I use sybaris

Regularly

[chilly jungle]

and not a melee ✌️🤔

[spare summit]

I use sancti magistar, slam build, attack speed doesn't matter much

[red path]

I've been able to spam sunder in energy drain nightmare missions with this build

[old tundra]

pls king

[restive pumice]

Why do cetus quests get now force players to quit from the area, when you get near doors. Lvl 50-60

[red path]

shards are 2 tau cast speed, 2 tau duration and 1 tau hp from blast kills

you almost can't die between using condemn to restore shileds and sunder spam to restore hp with molt reconstruct

[chilly jungle]

use a cooler melee 💔

[old tundra]

how do i get tau shard?

[old tundra]

HATE

[red path]

you can use normal shards, tau just give +50% effect, like 15% duration instead of 10%

[chilly jungle]

nah

[old tundra]

then?

[red path]

you get them in the same ways as normal shards, or by using stela to fuse 3 normal shards (need helminth segment from bird 3)

[old tundra]

how do i get normal shards 👉👈

[chilly jungle]

wiki

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Archon_Shard

[red path]

netracells in sanctum anatomica, archon hunt after veilbreaker quest

[chilly jungle]

buy them from bird 3

[red path]

there is also hollvania calendar and decendia

[chilly jungle]

1 per week tho and its random

@old tundra you farm stela at munio (mirror defense) also use a loot frame

[merry haven]

Do i put a orokin catalyst on the braton prime?

[old tundra]

yeah im to noob to understand

[red path]

and of course eta/eda but that is pretty late game content, you need rank 5 cavia and rank 5 hex

[old tundra]

yes

[merry haven]

Is the incarnat good?

[old tundra]

yeah

some would say one of if not the best rifle in game

[merry haven]

How do I get the incarnat version

[lofty garden]

SP circuit

[old tundra]

duviri steel path runs WHEN they are available

[merry haven]

Hmmm

Ill do it when I get steel path

[lofty garden]

next week

better hurry up

[chilly jungle]

no

[lofty garden]

you put it on braton vandal 🙂

[chilly jungle]

nah you put it on burston

[fresh cairn]

where do i get potato blueprints from?

[lofty garden]

sortie, 1999 calendar, invasions

[red path]

this week you can get one of each from duviri shop

[fresh cairn]

worth purchasing?

[red path]

why not, isleweaver is pretty easy way to farm clamps

[lofty garden]

Can look up orokin catalyst and orokin reactor in the wiki to see all the possible places to get them or their blueprints

[chilly jungle]

they should of made those blueprints drop from axi relics ngl 😭

[red path]

when there was event on isleweaver I got so much clamps I was buying stuff from that shop for almost a month

[chilly jungle]

like hear me out ✌️

[red path]

I also bought all duviri weapons

[chilly jungle]

lith = forma , meso/neo = orokin catalyst, axi = orokin reactor

[fresh cairn]

is there anything else i should buy from duviri?...

[lofty garden]

That is still not how relics work.

[red path]

oh, you already got them

[chilly jungle]

read the previous messages 💔

[fresh cairn]

just did.

anything else I should buy?

is arcane intention worth buying?

[red path]

nothing really worth much, maybe riven if you want to try your luck

[fresh cairn]

generally not worth?

[red path]

yeah, you'll be swimming in riven slivers even if you buy 2 rivens every week from iron wake

along with kuva and credits

[chilly jungle]

they should rework hown rivens work 💔

[red path]

not all of them are from palladino, some are rewards from calendar or sortie/archon hunt

[chilly jungle]

mostly the quest part idrc about the gambling

[lofty garden]

I don’t really care. Relic eras have little to do with rarity or quantity.

You fundamentally do not understand how they are used in the game.

[chilly jungle]

i mean

eras do kinda have a impact on rarity

lith are way more common to axi

[lofty garden]

No, they do not.

[chilly jungle]

compare how many lith you have to axi

[red path]

if you compare like that, i have a lot more meso than lith

[lofty garden]

My distribution is weighted heavily in favor of meso and neo.

[red path]

my main source of lith is relic packs from syndicates that you get passively

[chilly jungle]

in my opinion axi is way more harder to get compare to the other types

[lofty garden]

You're a new player.

[chilly jungle]

and how many years do i got to be playing to not be consider "New" 😭

[red path]

only becasue main source is one mission which can become boring quite fast

[chilly jungle]

axi comes from long type missions which you cant even speed run unlike the other types

[lofty garden]

It's not years, it's about playing content that will drop the relics you're looking for.

[chilly jungle]

i think sabotage is the shortest mission they can do

[red path]

you can speed run lua disruption to some extent

[lofty garden]

Disruption is pretty quick.

[chilly jungle]

depend on build/team

ALSO

[lofty garden]

The biggest problem with Disruption is getting the demolysts to do their jobs and blow up.